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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It was all rad and no one knew me.
Like you know, it's likewhatever.
Together forever, we're nevergonna sever Stopping and sharing
our stories.
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It's like whatever.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Welcome to Like Whatever a podcast for, by and
about Gen X.
I'm Nicole and this is my BFFF,heather Hola, so we actually
did something this week.
We did, and it was fun, so muchfun.
Heather was in her glory.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Loved it.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
For a change of pace.
I was the odd man out.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
We were gonna go live , but nobody else was, and we're
not like that.
They weren't even takingpictures of anything.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
No, like I saw one girl run up and take a picture
of the mice in the ballerinaoutfits.
Those were cute, they were cuteand she was like oh my god.
And she whipped out and took apicture, but nobody else.
But we were also there with abunch of goths and you guys
aren't really into pictures, sothat's true although I do have
to say it did come to myattention that I was probably

(01:09):
the tannest goth there.
Yeah, I hate that that wasembarrassing, it was
embarrassing, I was embarrassedfor you, I know, because my
chest is not it's bright white,but my arms I know it was.
We should probably tell peoplewhere we were.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Oh, we were at the Philadelphia Oddities and
Curiosities.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Expo.
I think it's like a travelingtroupe.
It is Because they had a longcalendar of what cities they're
going to be in.
Yeah, I mean a lot of deadstuff.
It was a lot of dead stuff yeah, I mean a lot of dead stuff.
It was a lot of dead stuff.
This, this part of this part ofthe podcast right here, did not
have to worry about spendingany money because there was not

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anything there that I reallywanted.
The other half of the podcast,however, could have bought
everything everything in theplace yeah, I like dead things
in jars but watching her behappy and in her glory and
oohing and aahing.
I was like ewing and oohing butshe'd be like, oh, look at this

(02:11):
dead thing in a jar.
I'd be like, oh, I'm goodThanks.
Oh yeah, that's nice Dead stuff, but she did buy the best thing
ever.
I did buy the best thing ever,but she did buy the best thing
ever.
I did buy the best thing ever.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
So we walked around and hit all the like a beginner
run through.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, yeah, kind of get a feel for the field.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
And then we walked around again, and and again, and
again.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
We walked around for three hours.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, it's hard to choose one thing yeah, but then
she took me for mexican, so Iwas good.
Yeah, so the one guy at the onebooth had on a little spinny
thing like I like dead things injars, I mean, I like dead
things posed also and I learneda lot about that too.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
If it's not clear, it hasn't been done properly.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yes, so see, I paid attention um, I'm still gonna
not ever live without thatoctopus, octopus it was stunning
, it really was.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
I would have taken that it was gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Um, so yeah, basically it's a lot of
taxidermy, and not justtaxidermy, but taxidermy posed
as well, as she said, mice asballerinas.
That's the kind of stuff I'minto dead things.
I was looking for coffin nailjewelry and I did not find any,
so I'm going to have to go onEtsy now.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'm 99% sure there was none there, because by the
end I think we had pretty muchseen everything at every booth
um, but what I did find and wehad, we went to the booth and we
did a little spinny.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
There was like a little carousel that had tiny
things in tiny jars and theywere in my price range, yes, and
I was looking, I was lookingthrough them and I spotted one
that was a it had a tag on it soeveryone trigger warning if you
get weird about dead stuff.

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You're gonna wanna fast forward.
It was a tiny decapitatedpiglet it was in a little jar.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yes, like a wee little piglet like the end of my
pinky finger, like from thefirst knuckle up.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
That's how tiny it, but you could see its tiny
little piglet face yeah yeah,and so I looked at it and it was
only twenty dollars, which Imean, really, come on like, how
do you not sell a decapitatedpiglet for more than twenty
dollars?

Speaker 2 (04:44):
and so I walked around the rest of the day
listening to I need to sell adecapitated piglet for more than
20 dollars.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
And so I walked around the rest of the day
listening to I need to get thatdecapitated little piglet so I
did go back and I did get thedecapitated piglet and the guy
seemed pretty excited thatsomeone bought the piglet he
really was and he said it.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
it wasn't even on purpose, it just kind of popped
off.
And then we made jokes aboutmom, I had a baby and it had
popped off and such but yeah, wecouldn't believe it was still
there.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
So I have now.
I am now the proud owner of atiny decapitated piglet.
She is so happy about it.
Then I also bought a muskratskull with a pink hat on it and
a black bow A black bow which Idon't On a little pedestal.
It's amazing, it is.

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We also saw, which I am nowgoing to try and replicate,
which I have now purchasedalmost all of the things to
replicate.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
This was actually something I thought was cute, as
long as I don't think aboutwhat it is, it is it was.
Alice in Wonderland-y.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, it was teacups and saucers with dried flowers
and rabbit ears Like real rabbitears.
So cute.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
They were kind of cute.
They were cute, they were cute.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
So I have now procured some rabbit ears, which
are all right.
I should have probably set itup top.
All of these things areethically sourced, and by
ethically sourced unless you'rea vegan, and then some are not
ethically to your ethics rightright, like the, the piglets and

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, uh right, the rabbit ears aremeat rabbits, um, but most of
the other animals are ethicallyethically sourced.
They're usually from breedersthat have lost animals, or a lot
of them are in with rescues andstuff like that, and it is
animals that are already dead,some of them.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
They just pull the dead carcasses off to the side
of the road I think we evenfound out, or we discussed, that
the piglet when they slaughter,yeah, pigs.
If the pig was pregnant, yes,then that's where those, those
could potentially because it wastiny, tiny, like it had to be I
mean I thought it might havebeen a teenage pig having an

(07:04):
abortion.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I just wanted to go back to school.
I don't know, I don't know,maybe I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, it was a really good time.
It really was, like I said, itwas pretty good for me because I
got to spend the day withHeather.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
I got to actually see her happy, which isn't
something you see very often.
I got to dress the way I wantto dress, yeah, and blend right
in and nobody stared at me, Ididn't have to spend any money
so and you got to see cool stuff, yeah, but back to this octopus
so you have to know about this.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I would have bought the octopus the octopus it's.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
It was in a jar, um, and it had it was.
What's the process called?
Starts with a d diaphyzed, itwas a, so it was a diaphanized
octopus and it was in like asoda bottle, like a you should

(08:06):
probably explain what that dword means oh, that is the.
I'm sure you have all seen it.
It's where they're like neoncolors and it's they remove all
the.
They remove all, like the fleshand all of that, and it's
injections in so that all theirblood vessels are showing and

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all that.
So this was great was greenlike a teal, green, blue, like a
sea.
See, it was darker than that,so like a, a turquoise, I would
say no, no, it's more green,yeah, but not green yeah, it was
like a green blue anyhow it waslike Heather's hair color.

(08:49):
I know it's fading um, and itwas in like at.
The bottle was like, uh, almostlike a soda bottle, but heavier
on the bottom and then taperedup.
And then the octopus was likein it and it just curled up just
perfect on the bottom.
And if you could see my handsright now I just showed you.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'll describe this like yeah, the like body part of
the octopus was kind of layingin the bottom, but not like just
laying there.
It looked good.
And then the way the tentacleskind of came up and wrapped
around, that was like theperfection of it all and it was
crystal clear.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, like crystal clear it was really beautiful it
was beautiful, and they had itlit from underneath, so it was
but.
I did not have 350 and I shouldnot spend $350 on a dead
octopus.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
But if she ever wins the lottery there will be signs.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
You will know, because I will have bought that.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
A lot of dead birds there A lot of dead birds A lot
of dead birds Ducks.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, that's because baby ducks die a lot.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh yeah, baby ducks and baby chickens, the baby duck
stuff was kind of cute too ifyou didn't think about what it
was.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, they die a lot just naturally, like duck farms
and stuff.
My sister had chickens and thebabies would die all the time
just because they don't know howto take care of them.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Not the people that own them, but the ducks.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
They're all bred for domestic, domestic, so they're
not wild.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Oh okay, so they don't really know the instincts?
Yeah, gotcha, they don't reallyknow what to do, and so they
die.
They just know how to lay eggs.
Yeah, they don't know what todo with them once they got them
and we saw a contortionist.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Um yeah, she just squeezed herself through a
tennis racket.
I could probably could havedone that I, I think I could
have.
You just got to push the fat inall the right spots and you got
it, yeah, but still kind ofcool.
They had a little freak showside show.
They had the little woodenthings with the faces cut out.
Heather would not take herpicture with me.

(10:59):
We actually dodged that part ofthe expo for a long time because
she was afraid I was gonnasecretly get her in there
somehow.
She's gonna hit me over thehead for a price.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
They had taxidermy classes I know and I think it
was a raccoon.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Next time yeah, so if you happen to see that we we
just found it on facebooktickets were like 10 bucks a
piece.
It wasn't a big deal to get in.
Yeah, check it out.
It's all over the country, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
The Oddities and Curiosities Expo.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
It's pretty cool, yes , so if you're into dead things,
yeah, yeah, check it out.
Yeah, a lot of people carryingaround like dead foxes draped
over their head, their shouldersis draped over their head.
At their shoulders, um, lots oflike wildlife heads, which that
doesn't do anything for me.
I grew up with a hunter for astepfather and my son-in-law.
Now they have deer heads andgeese and ducks and all kinds of
taxidermied stuff hangingaround their living room.

(11:59):
So, uh, yeah, we're gonna stealit and sell it because it's
worth a lot, a lot.
Yeah, he can just kill anotherone, yeah, but yeah, so that was
a fun day.
The day before that, I went tothe Caribbean Festival, or
Caribbean, however you choose tosay it However you like to say
it.

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That was in the local city thatI live in Lots of yummy food
trucks, lots of scantily claddancing music.
It was amazing.
I loved it.
And this weekend is the LatinFestival in the same place, so
I'm going to get cultured upthis week.
Get you some culture, that'sright, and I will be stopping at

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every food truck in the LatinFestival.
Caribbean you know I love riceand beans.
Choose some culture, that'sright, and I will be stopping at
every food truck in the Latinfestival.
Oh yeah, caribbean you know Ilove rice and beans, but there's
a lot of like ox and jerk andother things I don't eat.
I probably would have liked thefish, but I just got because
there was a stand with PuertoRican food, so I just got

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empanadas.
They were easy to carry aroundand eat.
Well, that's fun.
Yeah, it was fun.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
I don't have plans for this week.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I don't think I feel like I do, but I don't.
I feel like that every weekend.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
now we're gearing up for a mail count.
Boo, boo, yeah, tomorrow's myday off, and then it's my last
day off for like three weeks.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
And is it nationwide Yep?
All right, be kind to yourpostal workers.
Rural, it's not city.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
It's just rural carriers.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
They're going to go through hell.
I remember as a small child mymom.
She was a rural carrier in mailcounts.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
My mom she was a rural carrier in mail counts.
It depends, it's how we getpaid.
So it decides we do them everysix months and it decides how we
get paid for the next sixmonths.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
So it's a lot of stress, and it's not the only
thing, I think.
During mail counts, I not onlyhad to take care of my sister
and put dinner on the table, butalso make sure my sister got to
bed, because it's a long day.
So that's how I remember thatit's a lot of work.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
We can't leave the office until later because they
have to count everything and itjust oh yeah.
They're literally.
I remember that when she was aliteral master, yes.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
When she was postmaster.
I remember that part of it.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
It's a literal count.
So yes, it's a literal count.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
So it sucks, yeah, so be kind.
If your mail's a little late.
Don't get your panties in abunch.
Yeah, you'll get it eventually.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
You will, and it's all just junk now anyway, yeah,
I know Do you really need it,that bad who still uses paper
mail.
Like seriously, I actually havesomething I have to.
I need to go.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm a terrible mail person because I don't check my
own mailbox, and I found outtoday that I need to be checking
because everybody in the officegot something and I need to.
If I ever actually need a stamp, which is super rare, I just
have to go to the post officeand buy one, because I probably
have stamps somewhere, but I usethem so infrequently.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
I keep them on me just in case.
Yeah, but you're a postalemployee.
We sell them a lot.
You're supposed to have oldladies love stamps yeah, writing
checks, yeah, they buy they buya lot of stamps actually bills
by check my mother the other day.
God rest her soul.
She's not dead.
God help her soul.
She hands.
She says I have a letter that Ineed you to mail and I said, oh

(15:25):
, did you need a stamp?
And she was like.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Is it to her pen pal?
No?

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I don't even it was some bill.
She still pays her bills withchecks.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
And I said, do you need a stamp or something?
And she was like no, it has astamp on it.
And I'm like Put it in yourmailbox.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Do you have a?

Speaker 1 (15:41):
mailbox.
I know you have a mailbox.
I've seen it.
Well, can't I just give it toyou?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Safe third trip down the driveway.
Sure, mom, I'll take it.
I was in a training today onone of my coworkers who was
close to retirement, so she's alittle bit older than me.
She was bored so she busted outher checkbook register and
she's balancing her checkbook.
I was like I didn't even knowpeople did that anymore, I never

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did that even when I had acheckbook, I mean I did it.
It didn't mean anything, but Itried.
That's funny.
I guess you don't have to dothat anymore.
Yeah, but people do.
It all pops up I actually thinkthey might still do it in
schools, because I sit inmeetings for the kids I work
with and they're like oh well,they're in.
You know I forget what the mathis called, but it's.

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It teaches you more of likereal world math rather than
algebra and geometry.
And they often say they teachyou how to balance a checkbook.
Hey, they teach you how tobalance a checkbook, and I don't
know if that's just them sayingit because that's what they
used to teach, or if they reallystill teach kids that, which is
absolutely insane if that'swhat they do.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, you don't need it.
Yeah, I couldn't even tell youthe last time I had a checkbook.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, I don't have any checks and there are still
places that demand checks.
Yeah, it's happened to me.
I can't remember Like directdeposit, I think for work Wanted
a blank check and I'm like Idon't have checks, yeah, and now
they're really expensivebecause nobody buys them.
I'm like I'm not paying 50bucks for a box of checks.
I can give you one for mydirect deposit.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Checks, poor checks.
Yeah, remember when you couldwrite a check and then hope you
got the money in the bank beforewhen you went to the grocery
store the good old days well, ifI take, if I go to the grocery
store on Thursday and write thecheck, then it won't even go

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through they can't even depositit.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I'll go to the bank and deposit my check I won't go
through till monday or tuesdayfingers crossed.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
So I got a couple of days there.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, yep can't do that now.
That's where our bad umbudgeting habits started all
those years ago.
That's where it started.
Learn to work the system, yeahall right.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
All right, we've gone on for far longer.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, and I don't know the topic this week.
I know I didn't tell her, wellas of yesterday, we weren't
gonna have a topic.
She's like we're just gonnatalk.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm tired, I don't, I don't I had, I have had, I
don't know.
I had the greatest day ever atthe beginning of the day with my
karma was like no, not today,bitch.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
And then we let you have fun.
Now it's me in the face.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
So so and I know what you're all thinking why would
you wait until sunday when yourecord on tuesday, fuck?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
you, oh my god, a lot of times on tuesday I am crazy.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
She works from home.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I can't I have to do it sunday, or mond I usually
have it in my head and I'm likeI'm going to do it this weekend,
this time no, but I work bestunder pressure.
I always have when I went tocollege, saving work until the
very last minute, even at mywork.
Now I do much better when I'mon a timeline.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Me too.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Like a really close timeline.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
That's why I just had to turn.
We have these things callededit books and it's a list of
all your addresses and the namesof the people who live at that
address and whether it's vacantor whatever, and we have to turn
.
We're supposed to turn them inonce a month but because of the
mail count.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
we needed them to get and I waited until like last
week.
Yeah, I'm a hellaprocrastinator, for sure, but
it's in, yeah so I'm goodexactly, I'm actually kind of
excited about this mail count.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
I'm really hoping that my route goes up.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
I hope so too and you can buy more bunny ears.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I know if you all want to buy a bunny ear teacup.
Holla I got.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
I got bunny ears coming yeah, oh, speaking of
which, find us on all thesocials at like whatever pod.
Obviously, listen to us whereyou find, listen to podcasts,
and you can email us if youwould like some of Heather's but
I'm stealing her bit.
If you would like some ofHeather's Alice in Wonderland-y

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real taxidermy, bunny ears in ateacup with cute little flowers,
they really were cute thenemail us at likewhateverpod.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Or if you want to go to buymeacoffee likewhatever at
buymeacoffeecom, you can putmoney in there for me to buy the
octopus.
We could crowdsource me havingthe octopus.
And then I'll take pictures ofit so you all can see it.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yep, and you can brag to your friends that you helped
this girl.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
you don't know buy a dead octopus.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
It'd be awesome.
Yep, you should do that, okay.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
So let's fuck around and find out about going back to
school.
Oh my gosh, I love it.
It's that time of year.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Oh, I was one of those nerds that was always
excited to go back to school.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
I liked the stuff, yeah, but I didn't want to go
back to school, yeah.
Well, we had very differentexperiences.
We did, and that's why this isgoing to be so much fun.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
My school life was better for me than home life,
and home life was better for youthan school life, because
everybody just left me alone athome.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, I was allowed to come home and just go to my
room, yeah, and stay there andthen go to bed, which I did at 9
pm.
Sounds like my youngest.
Really, 9 pm Sounds like myyoungest.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Really, oh my gosh, all she did was stay in her bed.
Oh, when she lived with me, wow.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Okay, she loves the bed.
So this is going to be fun,because my back to school is
different, because I wore auniform also.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Oh no, school shopping.
We did go back to school, wedid For uniforms.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
No, well, sometimes yes, but they came in the summer
.
Like one, the kindergartenthrough sixth grade wears a
jumper in one color.
Why one color?

Speaker 2 (21:56):
No idea.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Oh no, fifth grade, and then sixth, seventh and
eighth grade has the samecolored skirt and shirt, and
then, when you go into the highschool, it's a completely
different outfit, for whateverreason, I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Man speaking of saying stuff that's really
inappropriate.
I am just not going to say it.
All right.
All right, I'll say it and youcan cut it out.
Were they color coding for thepedophiles?
Yes, I think so.
That's all I can think.

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When you said it, these onesare up to age 10.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
The little ones were blue and white it was christian
I wasn't christian after all Iwasn't okay, back to the show.
Okay, um, yeah, so I had towear a uniform yeah, and you
probably ordered them fromschool too.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
At least kids that wear uniforms now can go to like
go buy the khaki pants,although I don't think schools
around here do uniforms anymore.
I think that fell by thewayside.
I know Old Navy has uniforms.
Yeah, and that's where mostpeople get them, because they'd
have the Oxfords in, like whiteor blue, and the khaki pants.
But now most schools have gonepretty loose on their clothing,

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dress codes, right, which I like, like, I see, because teenage
girls I mean.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
It's your fault if yeah, why don't we teach our
teenage boys not to ogle ourteenage girls?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
And our adult men.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
And our adult men?
Why don't we teach the boys andthe men to?

Speaker 2 (23:24):
behave Because they look freaking adorable in their
little yoga pants and theirlittle half shirts.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
It's not a girl's fault.
You should be able to wearwhatever the hell you want.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
And you look good in it.
And what are you supposed towear Sweaters and baggy
sweatpants just because you're agirl and you don't want boys to
have to worry about how they'relooking at you teach your boys
yes, yes yes, we should stopsaying girls shouldn't wear that
everywhere and say girls boysshouldn't rape yeah how about
that?

Speaker 1 (23:50):
exactly don't touch anything if, unless somebody
says it's okay to touch it.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Exactly, learn consent don't get us going on
yet.
Fun topics today.
You know how that goes.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
So the Trapper Keeper was invented in the late 70s.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I don't think I ever had a Trapper Keeper.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
I have one right now that I keep my.
It's actually I'll get to it.
I want one.
The Trapper Keeper was inventedin the late 70s by John Wyant I
didn't know it was that oldDirector of New Product
Development at Mead, acting upona request by E Bryant
Crutchfield, a marketingexecutive at Mead, for a locker

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item that would allow folders tobe easily removed for their use
in class, yet protected fromfalling out accidentally.
It got its name because it wassold in combination with pocket
folders designed by mead calledtrappers, which differed from
other pocket folders in that thepockets three sides connected
with the bottom outside edge andtop, as opposed to the bottom

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outside edge and spine.
If you remember, meads has likethe little corner tuck in.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
And they would also a lot of times have the three
hole punch thing, in the middleof the folder and folders were
the glam of school supplies backthen, like even if you only got
them in different solid colors,getting to choose which color
was for which class, and oh mygosh, it was a huge deal.
And you just totally gave me anidea, because I'm not an

(25:28):
organized person, so that is.
My biggest issue at work isthat I'm kind of good but I have
to keep it minimalistic,because if I start trying to do
too many things, things get lost.
But a trapper keeper would beperfect for all the things I
need to carry around with me, Ihave one for my, and then I can

(25:49):
be the retro.
That's where I keep my stamps.
Employment counselor.
Yeah, I'm getting one.
Because, they still sell them,right?
Yeah, did they make a.
I'll wait.
Thank you, stop giving away myshit.
I'm sorry, I'm excited, damn it.
You're giving away my shit.
I'm sorry, I'm excited, damn it.
We talked about your stuff.
Now I want to talk about mystuff.
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Oh my, the design prevented papers from falling
out of the trapper's pocketswhen it was closed.
Trappers were three-holepunched so that they could be
put in any three-ring binder,including a trapper keeper.
Oh, wichita Kansasansas waschosen.
I forgot the period there.

(26:27):
Wichita kansas was chosen asthe initial market for august of
78 trapper folders came inthree colors red, blue and green
with a suggested retail priceof you all might want to sit
down here, especially if youhave kids that you are currently
shopping for the retail priceof 29 cents.

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The trapper keepers had a.
Now, this is another thing thatwhen I read this, I was I got
mad about.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Okay, and you're about to be.
I love it when you're mad.
You're about to be mad about ittoo, not me anybody who didn't
have a trapper Keeper.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
you're about to be mad.
Trapper Keepers had a suggestedretail price of $4.85.
That's all I get it.
It was the late 70s, but Istill feel like $4.85 is
reasonable.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
For real yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
For as cool as they were, yes, $4?
, not even five bucks.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I mean I might have had one junior or senior year,
but that would be.
I bought it myself because Istarted working when I was 15,
but I for sure never had one.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
So for $4.85, it came with a few Trapper folders In
the test market.
Each Trapper Keeper alsoincluded a feedback card which
promised a free notebook from meif the card was returned.
I know.
To everyone's surprise, theproduct inventory sold out and
the 1,500 feedback cardsreturned revealed that adults as
well as teens were buyingTrapper Keepers for non-school

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use.
Three years after the TrapperKeeper was released, the design
was tweaked to include a Velcrostrap instead of the initial
metal snap.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Oh, I didn't know that.
See, I didn't have one backthen, for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
The design change allowed for greater ease of use
and more efficient manufacturing.
The designer series ran from1988 to 1995 and introduced
fashionable, funky and sometimespsychedelic designs.
The company also made a dealwith Lisa Frank and licensed
cartoon characters like Garfieldand Sonic the Hedgehog from 96

(28:34):
to 99.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
I remember that.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Mead released a collection of notebooks and
folders known as Futuro City,featuring futuristic city and
landscape designs.
In 2007, a new version ofTrapper Keeper featured a
magnetic closure in place of theVelcro closure, a customizable
front cover.
I mean, technically they werecustomizable anyway, because you

(28:59):
could slip stuff in them.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
I do that with three ring binders at work all the
time.
I love that Print stuff off orget pictures done and stick them
in there, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
In 2014,.
Another new version of TrapperKeeper was released, featuring a
metal button closure, as wellas a new feature called snapper
trappers, which are plasticstrips that act as dividers and
can have regular notebooksattached to them.
In addition to folders anddividers, the snapper trappers
can be placed or removed withouthaving to open the ring of the

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binders.
For the 2015 school year,trapper Keeper introduced Star
Wars Trapper Keeper supplies andHello Kitty Trapper Keeper
supplies, and a new pattern linecalled Fun in the Sun brought
back the original designs forthe Trapper Keeper and most of
its original features in 2021.
So my trap I have the dateplanner Trapper Keeper and most
of its original features in 2021.

(29:56):
So my Trapper I have the DatePlanner Trapper Keeper, which is
wee, it's very small.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
I'm about to order this one right here, yeah they,
they oh, that's nice, that one'snice.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, yeah.
So if you, if you all, want one, meadcom M-E-A-d dot com will
get you where you need to go.
I'm sure you can also get themat Walmart or wherever.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
but tomorrow's payday , so pick you up a Trapper
Keeper?

Speaker 1 (30:20):
I will if you didn't get one, I love mine.
It's date planner sized andit's perfect because all of our
stuff, like I put my stamps, mystamps are in there, because it
came with little folders, soit's like your little home
office.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
You can't talk about Trapper Keepers without
mentioning the folders that were, as the kids say, doing too
much, because they really wereFounded in 1979 by artist Lisa
Frank in Tucson, arizona.
The company started with achildren's jewelry line called
Sticky Fingers, before pivotingto stickers and school supplies.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Did they name it Sticky Fingers because it was
getting stolen out of Claire'sall the time.
I don't know why they didn'tsay, I do remember Lisa Frank,
though.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Frank's designs were instantly recognizable Neon
colors, fantastical animals andsurreal dreamscapes that felt
like a Lisa Frank acid tripthrough a third grade classroom.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Like the, I Remember the Unicorns.
Her first big break came via amillion dollar order from
Spencer Gifts, launching thebrand into national prominence.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Oh Spencer, oh Spencer.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Lisa Frank products became a cultural staple for
school-aged kids, especiallygirls who collected, traded and
adorned their notebooks with hervibrant stickers.
The brand expanded into folders, backpacks, lunchboxes and even
beach towels.
At its height, lisa Frank Incwas pulling in tens of millions
annually.
A true story.

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The aesthetic wasn't just cute,it was aspirational.
A true story.
That's why Heather loved it.
Yes, please surprise that.
I literally never had anythinglike that no, nothing, not a

(32:12):
single thing.
I remember seeing them in thestore, but I did not ever have a
.
And all your classmates probablyhad them, had them, oh, yeah,
for sure I like.
Yeah, no, I like the marbledones.
Yeah, lisa Frank was more thanstationary, it was emotional
armor.

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Her designs gave kids a senseof control, creativity and joy.
In environments that often feltrigid or stressful, you got to
at least pick out especially forme who had to wear a uniform
you got to pick out.
It was so hard to express yourpersonality when you're wearing
a uniform, so you have to do itwith your shoes.

(32:53):
And it was so hard to expressyour personality when you're
wearing a uniform yeah, so youhave to do it with your shoes
and jewelry and all that, andeven that gets limited.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
That's the irony of making kids wear uniforms the
ones who have money are stillgoing to stand out.
We're still all going to knowwho they are.
We're still going to know whothe poor kids are.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yes, yes, but the one thing you could do, because I
know well and I know when mysister's kids were coming up
like certain colors were forcertain classes here.
Anyway they like green meansmath or something I don't know.
I they had like a list and itwould be like green for this
class.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
oh yeah, my that too yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
So they don't give them the freedom now, but back
then?
I mean you could pick like allkinds of cool stuff on the front
of your notebooks.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yes, yes, that is true.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, you could really.
That's where you felt like youhad control, if your mom would
let you.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Mm-hmm, yeah, that was the other big.
She had the cash.
The brand tapped into acollectible culture before
Pokemon cards and Beanie Babies,making every sticker sheet a
mini treasure trove.
Behind the scenes, lisa FrankInc was reportedly a grueling
workplace, with allegations oftoxic management and sudden

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firings.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
No.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I wanted to put this in here because I didn't want to
just make it all rainbowdolphins and unicorns.
So she was the Ellen DeGeneresof school supplies.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yes, okay, lisa Frank herself became increasingly
reclusive and the brand fadedfrom mainstream shelves in the
early 2000s from mainstreamshelves in the early 2000s.
A recent docuseries, glitterand Greed, the Lisa Frank Story,
explores both the magic and themayhem, featuring interviews
with former employees and familymembers, and I urge you to
watch it.
I think it's on Netflix, Idon't remember, but I did watch

(34:44):
that.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
And it's the Lisa Frank documentary.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, it's called Glitter and Greed.
The Lisa Frank story.
Okay, nostalgia has sparked aresurgence, with Lisa Frank
Collaborations popping up inmakeup lines, fashion drops and
limited edition merch.
Ew yeah, adults who grew upwith the brand now embrace it as

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a symbol of childhood whimsyand a reminder that sometimes
glitter really is the answer.
It is never the answer.
It is never the answer I meanit's not.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
No, it's really not.
That shit gets everywhere, yeahoh my god, glitter's not cool
yeah, I mean, I would say if youwere doing like a poster board,
no, it gets everywhere it doesand you never can get it.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
and then it's like four years later and you still
have glitter on something andyou're like God damn.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
It's a good way to tell if your husband's been to
the strip club.
That's true, he will haveglitter all over him.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
This, also, for me, was how you could express your
personality before bpa-freeplastics took over.
Kids toted metal lunch boxeswith matching thermoses that
smelled vaguely of tomato soupand, betrayal.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Mine did not smell of tomato soup because I don't
like tomato soup yeah, meneither, but it lunch boxes did
have a distinctive smell,whether they were metal or
plastic, and I still rememberthat smell.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I know when I was doing this I was like oh yeah, I
can smell it.
I can smell it right now.
Yeah, some of the most popularcoveted designs were Star Wars,
especially the Empire StrikesBack, et, masters of the
Universe, strawberry Shortcake,knight Rider, the Smurfs, care
Bears, transformers, rainbow,bright, cabbage Patch Kids what

(36:37):
was yours, smurfs?

Speaker 2 (36:39):
And when you started that list I was like she better
say Smurfs.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Mine was not on here, oh no, it was.
I also like StrawberryShortcake.
I was going to say I think Ihad a Strawberry Shortcake and
you know what else I had.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
I think I had a pac-man one too, oh yeah, did
you prefer metal or plastic?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
well, I like the metal.
I like the metal, but the metalwould get like rusty, yes, and
weird, and so it wouldn't likeclose together all the way
sometimes you know how it wouldget like just a little, yeah, a
little off kilter there, likeand then you couldn't, and then.
But it made a lot of noise withthe thermos rolling around in
it.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
My favorite thing about one show was when you went
on field trips and you'd wrap asub in aluminum foil and a soda
can, like that was going tokeep it cold.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Well see, here's the Dragon's Dream episode of ours
to find out about how it feelsto live in a van, but when you
do spend your life living in avan, you have the ability.
My dad always has frozen waterplaces.
There's always frozen water inhis freezer, in Ziploc bags and

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all sorts of things.
Did you have frozen water backthen?
Yeah, we always had frozenwater.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Where'd you get it when you stopped here and there?
No, did you have a freezer?
Yeah, the ice chest.
We had an ice chest.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
So he would make big blocks.
Oh yeah, I do that, yeah, yeahyeah, I do that all the time he
did.
That's what he did, so when Iwould go on field trips, my mom
would stick like little icepacks in them so you didn't have
the fancy blue plastic, whichdon't work as well as the ice
and plastic bags.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Nope, that's like having a cooler where the ice
starts to melt and your beer islike wicked cold because because
ice water is cold yeah, I don'tthink I got ice, though.
I just got aluminum foil.
I mean, she was trying topoison me, I know because that
shit had to be bad.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
That's how come when we're immune to things because
that all that shit.
Like you, you got in a bus andyou rode in the heat for five
hours.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
and then your lunch sat in the bus while you were
doing whatever field trippything.
And then you came out atlunchtime and they pulled all
your hot lunches out and you allate it, yep.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yep, yeah, we're going to live forever.
And some of them was tuna.
We all know one of your momsput tuna in there.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, or you got that.
It was always.
Well, maybe that was just formy kids.
Anytime my kids went on a fieldtrip, I got them subs and then
it was expected Like I have afield trip, you got to go get me
a sub.
Okay, diva.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
So these boxes were loud, colorful and often
featured full-blown actionscenes or character lineups.
The thermos was usually tuckedinto a plastic ring inside that
always broke, ready to leaklukewarm milk at any moment.
By the mid to late 80s, plasticlunch boxes started replacing
metal ones.
They were lighter, less dentand came in even more outrageous

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neon colors and geometricpatterns.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
I still think I like the metal ones better.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
I don't think I had.
I think I went, I think Itransitioned to bags lunch bags
at that point.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
The brown paper ones yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, when the plastic ones really started
rolling out, I don't think I hadany plastic ones and I really
cannot remember.
I know I had any plastic onesand I really cannot remember.
I know I had, I can see it too,but I can't, like you know it's
one of those things where youcan see it but you can't really
remember what it was on it.
I'd have to ask my mom.
My mom might know.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
What year did you say the plastic ones came out?

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Late mid to late eighties.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Oh gosh, I was in high school by then.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, yeah, I was in high school by then, yeah, yeah,
I definitely had metal ones.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Then, yeah, it must have been my kids that had
plastic ones.
I keep confusing my childhoodin there, so I guess Well, here
is also one of my favoritethings in the whole world.
Oh God, and I did not knowYou're killing me here.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
And you know what?

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I didn't do any fun facts.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
So my fun facts are I don't even need fun facts,
these are all fun facts.
I want to go buy schoolsupplies just because I want
school supplies, I forgotbecause of what was going on
last night at my house.
I totally forgot to look up thefun facts.
These are all fun facts, mypower was out for a really long
time last night because we'reabout to get a hurricane and
it's just a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Thursday is going to fucking suck If you've heard
about Hurricane Erin.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Thursday is going to fucking suck if you're a male
person on the East Coast.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Oh man, I took Thursday off.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Oh, it's going to be nasty.
This thing is churning out 90foot waves.
90 foot by the time they'resaying Thursday.
It's what?
Thursday?
Friday here.
20 foot by the time they gethere.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Well, I know that for the past two days, our local
beaches have been closed down.
Like you, there are warningsall over to stay out of the
ocean.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
It's really rough and it's about to get a whole lot
worse, and the riptides arecrazy.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
I think it's going to hit you more.
I did see a graphic where it'slike basically hitting all the
coasts and I'm kind of moreinland and there's a body of
water in between me body ofwater and land before that a
body of water in between me,body water and land before that.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Yeah, it's supposed to.
I think they said yeah, as ofyesterday.
I haven't checked today but asof yesterday it was going to be
600 miles off the coast, so notreal close.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
But the wind, we're gonna get the outer, yeah the
wind field will be.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
It's supposed to be really windy on thursday and
rainy.
We're gonna get the outer bandsof it.
I'm still going shopping and itfucking sucks, so I have to be
out in the middle of the raindelivering mail.
So my favorite thing andhopefully you all remember this
underoos weren't just underwear.
They were identity kits for GenX kids who wanted to feel like

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superheroes before breakfast.
You are fucking killing me.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I still think I'm Wonder Woman because of underoos
I had Wonder Woman too.
I would literally put them onand put my arms out and spin in
a circle and turn into WonderWoman.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
I had two pairs.
I had Wonder Woman and GetReady for the Other One, because
you're going to be mind fuckingblown.
Oh God, daisy Duke, shut thefuck up.
I will not.
I didn't even.
God, daisy Duke, shut the fuckup, I will not.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
I didn't even know there were Daisy Duke underoos.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yep, that was the little Daisy Duke jeans.
They look like jeans.
I don't remember the top, butit must have been like a, just
like a.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
I wonder if they make them for adults now.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Invented in 1977 by entrepreneur Larry Weiss, who
had a knack for turning mundaneproducts into cultural
touchstones.
He also helped create FruityPebbles.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Oh, I love Fruity Pebbles.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
He pitched the idea of matching tops and bottoms
featuring beloved charactersfrom DC, marvel, hanna-barbera
and Archie Comics.
Superman, wonder Woman,spider-man and Scooby-Doo.
And Archie Comics.
Superman, wonder Woman,spider-man and Scooby-Doo.
The concept was initiallyrejected by Haynes and Scott
Paper Company, but Fruit of theLoom saw the potential and

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bought the rights in 1978.
Each set mimicked a character'scostume, so kids could feel
like they were becoming theirfavorite hero just by getting
dressed, as you stated.
It was the best.
Early ads featured kidsstriking wrestler poses with
slogans like when the colorlasts and the fit lasts and the
quality lasts and the joy lasts,it's got to be underoos damn,

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that's a really long tagline, itreally is underoos became a
staple of department store tripsand Saturday morning cartoon
fandom.
They even earned a shout out inCaptain America Civil War when
Iron man called Spider-ManUnderoos a nod to the brand's
iconic stack.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yep, and the thing about Underoos is I don't have a
lot of childhood memoriesbecause I just have a shitty
memory, but I literally canstill see my underoos.
I can feel myself spinningaround in my Wonder Woman
underoos.
I must have only ever gottenone pair, because that's all I
remember.
It is burned in my memory.
It was a really big deal, and Iwas like seven because it was.

(44:47):
I remember the place we livedin, and that was right after my
mom left my dad and moved inwith our new boyfriend.
So, yeah, I must have beenseven, that's how we do
timelines.
Tmi sorry.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
In later years, the brand was licensed to BioWorld
to produce adult-sized underoos,letting Gen Xers relive their
childhood in superhero briefs.
Do they still make them?
I don't know, you'd have toGoogle it.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
I don't know if I could do that, though let's look
.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
All right.
So we looked and they're veryexpensive.
Very Jeez Louise, but you canstill get them, but they're very
expensive.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
I'll just live with the memory.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Thanks, it's a little bit out of our praise range,
yeah, so if you want to, you cancheck them out.
Mostly it was they're kind ofhard to get to.
I think it was like yeah,everything was sold out.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
I'll just wear some red underwear, no, some blue
underwear and a red shirt, andwear a gold chain there, you go
Spin around my living room andpretend like I'm the underwoman
Not that I don't already do that, but whatever.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Vans in the 1980s wasn't just a shoe brand.
It was a cultural movementwrapped in canvas and rubber.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
It's just blown my mind how old these things are,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
If you were a Gen Xer growing up in California or
just wished you were, vans wereyour ticket to skate Skater kids
, skate credit, punk rebellionand BMX grip.
So I had two of these.
Actually I'm all three, becauseI was a tomboy and it started
with the BMX and I wanted theMongoose and I never got a

(46:30):
Mongoose.
I only got a BMX bike fromSears, but everybody else had
BMX.
I had a mongoose.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, I was never an alternative kid or whatever, but
I always had a crush on skaterboys.
I still love Rob Dyrdek thatdoes Ridiculousness on MTV
because he's a skater dude, andTony Hawk, like I love them all
and this reminds me, like in mymemories on Facebook.

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10 years ago I went to SanFrancisco and I went with my mom
and her husband and my youngest, and my youngest has always
been super trendy and everythingshe's wearing is Vans and like
all the skater stuff and herlittle baseball cap and her
hoodies and she's so cute.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
She is cute.
I love that face.
You know what she's uber,bougie?
Do you know what the most gen xthing to have ever happened in
the whole world is?
No tony hawk's son and KurtCobain's daughter.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Dude, they might Francis.
Bean, it's Francis Bean it isFrancis Bean, and they might
bring Gen X back If they makekids and then their kids start
influencing people.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
They have a kid.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
They do.
Yeah, I don't know if Irealized that.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, they just had a kid.
I don't remember its name, butI know they just had a kid and I
don't know what Tony Hawk's sonis.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
It really.
It almost seems like anarranged marriage, like it is
too much, yeah, like crazy.
Back to bands, okay.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
So I met well after I was on the BMX.
Then the people that I hung outwith kind of just rolled into
skate and then we all kind ofjust rolled into the punk
movement because I don't thinkthat the skating and the punk
were that far apart.
Oh god, it's the same music,definitely not yeah, I mean
that's.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I mean the inner.
The music that opens withridiculousness is a sex pistol
song.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeahyeah, yeah, so yeah it's,
they're definitely connected.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yeah so founded in 1966 by paul van doren in
anaheim, california, van startedas a local shop making shoes on
site.
By the late 70s, the brand hadalready caught fire with skaters
, thanks to its sticky wafflesoles and durable canvas.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
What a genius idea, and I still have a pair of Vans
that I wear, but they're notgreat for Gen Xers because there
is no arch support, no supportat all.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
I also have a pair of Vans.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
I can only wear them when I know I'm not going to be
walking a lot, because my backwill kill me if I wear them too.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
I have high top on there and cheetah print.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Mine are just the traditional black with the white
shirt.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
But I do remember when they started getting crazy
with them and we went to theskate store and I got to buy.
I got to get a pair.
I think it was for my birthday.
I got to pick out a pair and Ipicked out purple check.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
High tops.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
I always wore high tops.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Do you remember when wearing wrestling shoes was a
trend?
I do, but I never did.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Of course I did.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Because by that point I had a job and I could buy my
own things.
And I had the red Nike high topLike fit you like a glove.
It fit you like a wrestling uniman.
I was so proud of those shoes.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
I switched over from Vans to Converse because
Converse had a lot more varietyand also we used to take.
We would either buy white onesand then draw all over them or
we would take the black ones andbleach them Like I bleached,
like super straight.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
I remember bleaching sneakers.
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
The checkerboard slipped on release in 1977,
became iconic after Jeff Spicoliwore them in Fast Times at
Ridgemont High, launching Vansinto pop culture stardom.
The 80s was Vans' definingdecade, a gritty, diy rise that
mirrored Gen X ethos,skateboarding and BMX explosion.
Vans became the unofficialuniform of West Coast skaters

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and BMX riders Legends like TonyAlva, christian Hoisey and
Stacey Pearl no, I'm messing itup.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
I remember Christian.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
I do too Turning them into performance gear and
streetwear staples.
The brand sponsored local skatecontests and leaned into
grassroots marketing, buildingloyalty from the pavement up.
What a genius.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
I mean, that person was a smart businessman.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Vans weren't just for skaters.
They were embraced by punkrockers, ska fans.
I'm going to be controversial.
I absolutely hate ska.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
She does, and also by preppy girls who were trying to
look cool.
Yeah, which would be me, yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
I hate ska and hip hop, especially in urban scenes.
Pop, especially in urban scenes.
The affordable and customizabledesigns like the late 80s
custom program made them acanvas for self-expression.
In the mid-80s, vans triedexpanding into basketball and
breakdancing shoes and it didnot do well.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
The company filed for you weren't competing with
Michael Jordan.
No.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
The company filed for by the way, he's here again.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
I saw that His plane landed yesterday.
Yeah, the mid-atlantic why ishe here the?
Mid-atlantic tournament,although I think it's gonna end
up getting canceled because ofthe hurricane.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Oh, yeah, I don't actually know what's going on
with that.
Uh, the company filed forchapter 11 bankruptcy in 1984
due to over expansion by 88.
A group of investors boughtvans for 60 million, setting the
stage for its 90s revival andeventual global domination.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
In 88, that was a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Yeah, vans in the 80s , especially for a company that
went bankrupt.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Vans in the 80s were more than a brand.
It was a badge of authenticity,whether you were bombing hills,
moshing at a DIY show orlawyering outside 7-Eleven.
So the next I did not havethese.
Well, okay.
So this I went through and didquick blurbs on the major brands

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, just because I didn't want togo into depth on any of them,
because we can do that later.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
But after I go through these, I want to talk
about back-to-school clothesshopping.
Okay, jordache, skin-tight,high-waisted jeans with the
horse head logo.
Their ads are basicallysoftcore glamour shots on
horseback.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
I never got those.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Guess acid-washed ankle-zip triangle-logoed.
I never got those.
Guess Acid washed ankle ziptriangle logo perfection, never
got those.
Calvin Klein Thanks to BrookeShields Nope, ck jeans became a
cultural movement.
Nothing comes between her andher Calvins, and she was only
like 13 or 14 or 15.
I know Just ridiculously too.
Levi's the OG I do have Levi's.

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I do have Levi's.
I still wear Levi's the OG,whether cuffed, ripped or
stonewashed Levi's with a greatequalizer across clicks.
501s Members only Didn't have amembers only jacket.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
I never wanted one.
It never appealed to me.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
A spree.
I did have a lot of a spree.
I did want esprit.
Yeah, they have the oversizedsweatshirts, color blocked
everything and coordinated sets.
Uh, I like the oversizedsweatshirts.
And now here, this one was myfavorite store benetton bold
colors, I knew it.
Multicultural vibes andsweaters that made you look like
you had a passport and options.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
They always had ads that had white people and black
people in it.
Yep.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Their perfume smelled so good Colors.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Oh my God, I remember that, although I was an
exclamation girl, oh yeah, sure,yeah, sure, sure.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Yeah, izod Lacoste the crocodile OP.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
So OP was big around here, op was crazy around here.
Yeah, the.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
OP shorts.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Little corduroy ones.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Xenojeans?
I don't remember Xenojeans.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
No, must have been a West Coast thing.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Yeah, it's paired with oversized sweaters and
scrunch socks.
I did rock some scrunch socks.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
I did.
Yeah, I had the oversizedsweaters, but I would wear
pantyhose.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Excuse me With them.
I wore leggings.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
I had the oversized sweatshirts too, that went to
your knee, and I'd wearpantyhose and flats with them.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
I remember when stirrup pants came into.
I loved them, because then theykept them in my boots.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Yes, I think they're coming back too.
Uh, yes, they are, but now theywould just fall below our
bellies, our menopausal bellies,in 1985, a coca-cola apparel
line featured red, white andblue sportswear with the iconic
logo yep, I have my coca-colaswatch I had a lot of coca-cola
stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
So here's the thing because I wore a uniform we
didn't have like we would goschool shopping because
everybody else.
I think my mom was trying tomake it as normal as possible,
but it was for like out ofschool stuff, right, so it was
all well, that's almost better.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Yeah, you didn't have to wear your nice stuff to
school, no, you just had coolclothes for at home.
Yes, so my school shopping was,my mom would tell me I had a
set dollar amount.
I want to say maybe a hundred,right, and she's like you can
get one thing for a hundreddollars or whatever.
So that's where my learning toshop by walking into a store and

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walking directly to theclearance rack, which translates
to the Internet, because when Igo on a website, I instantly go
check the clearance firstbefore I shop for anything else.
But, yeah, that was the bestway I had about spent my money,
and Express had this blackt-shirt with big red roses all

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over it and I loved it, and mymom loved the color red and she
made an exception that year andbought me that t-shirt or that
shirt because she liked it somuch and that was like my prized
possession for so long and Ireally loved the Express.
Once I started making my ownmoney, that's where I wanted to
shop.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
We had.
Surprisingly enough, we hadBenetons like all over here.
There was one in Ocean City,there was one in Bethany.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
There was an outlet for years.
It's not there anymore.
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
So the thing was is my aunt, who is childless by
choice not really my auntanymore, but she would take us
to one of the fancy stores andlet us pick out whatever we
wanted.
Right, I know I always went toBenetton and the Benetton.
Mostly I wanted the bag.

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Do you remember the Benettonbarrel?
It looked like a barrel bagwith the strings.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
I really wish I still had one of those, because I did
love those.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Yeah, benetton barrel it looked like a barrel bag
with the strings.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Yep, I really wish I still had one of those, because
I did love those, yeah, benetton, that's where I went yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
School shopping was the best yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
This one's not really school shopping, and I don't
know if all of you guys had them.
If you didn't live near, Iguess you did.
After world war ii, pvc plasticbecame a cheap alternative to
leather.
Do you know where I'm going?
French fishermen wore clearplastic shoes for the durability

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and easy cleaning.
These units, utilitarian shoes,were sold in bulk and
considered unfashionable untiltwo 20-something entrepreneurs,
tony Alano and Nicolas Guillan,had a vision in 1980.
While vacationing in Spain,tony and Nicolas decided to
transform the humble fisherman'sshoes into something fun and

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fabulous.
With a loan from Nicola's momand help from tony's chemist
brother, they dyed the shoes intheir kitchen, dried them in the
bathroom and packaged them intheir living room.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
The result bright, glitter infused, vanilla,
scented jellies 12 colors damn,that's probably what's wrong
with my back and my hips thesedays.
Is I between those and thewooden clogs that God?
I'm not going to be able toremember the name now, but with
the strap, with the buckle, Idon't know, they were like navy

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blue leather with the buckle andthe clog.
Yeah, I mean, it was solid woodyou were walking on, dr Scholl.
Dr Scholl's yeah yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, but jellies, forget
about it.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Jelly shoes exploded onto the fashion scene after
appearing in parents' fashionshows, european magazines and
shoe fairs In the US, prestonHayes European fashion shows had
jellies.
They In the US Preston HogueEuropean fashion shows had
jellies.
They were awful.
In the US Preston Hogue Srdiscovered jellies in Brazil and
introduced them at the 1982World's Fair in Knoxville

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Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
The World's Fair?
Yeah, they were a sideshow.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Soon.
Bloomingdale's orderedthousands, and designers like
Jean-Paul Gaultier and ThierryMugler created new styles every
six months.
By the mid-80s, jellies wereeverywhere, especially among
kids and teens.
They were cheap, colorful andcame in endless styles strappy
sandals, mary Janes and evenboots.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Retailers must have made a fucking fortune off of
this.
Especially Jean-Paul Gaultier.
You know that shit was made outof the same things we were
buying at Ames, yep and goodLord, although I loved his
perfume.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
And his perfume bottles with the woman's body
shape.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
He had some good smell of perfume Jellies faded
in the late 90s but haveresurfaced multiple times, often
reimagined by high-enddesigners or nostalgic retailers
.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Yeah, they're trying to make a comeback right now.
Bad idea.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
So moving on.
Founded in 1891 in Helzborg,sweden, by the Dunker family,
tree Torn began as a rubberfactory, making galoshes to help
farmers survive the wetScandinavian climate.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Do you know that they still make Tree Torns?
Yep, did you know that before Iposted it on Facebook?
Yep, all right, because I wasin Marshalls looking at their
shoes and I found a pair of TreeTorns.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
I almost bought mine and I almost bought a pair.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Yeah, and I posted them on Facebook and I was like,
oh my God, I literally didn'tknow they were still a thing,
like for real, for real.
I haven't seen anyone wear them, I don't see them anywhere.
But yeah, if you like TreeTorns, you can still get them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
By 1900, they launched their first sneaker,
making Tree Torn the secondoldest sneaker manufacturer in
the world, right after Keds Wow.
In 1967, Tree Torn introducedthe Nylite, the world's first
luxury tennis sneaker.
It became a fashion icon whenworn by tennis legend like Bjorn
Borg and Martina Navratilova,both on and off the court.

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The Nylite's signature gullwingdesign, usually navy on white
canvas, became a subtle flex inprep schools, country clubs and
college campuses.
and the hell yes it did oh yes,everybody had them, and the
store in fenwick that had themhad them across the street and
they.
I would go over all the timeand just look at them, just to
see what colors.

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I had pink and white checkeredone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
I more so feel like they were white with a white
straight.
Was that like the, the?

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
mainstream one they.
This whole sneaker was white,right, but then that little
thing was came in all differentcolors.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
They said it's going.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Tree thorns were the unofficialfootwear of the preppy elites
sink vintage bmw's weekend tripsto montauk and Ivy League dorms
.
They were worn by icons likeFarrah Fawcett, jackie O and
even Billy Joel Check out his52nd Street album cover.
Girls paired them with a spreesweaters, benetton skirts and

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swatch watches, which we did anepisode on swatch watches.
If you go back and look at thatSwatch, your step.
Is that what it's called?
I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Swatch your step.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Swatch your step.
Is that what it's called?
I think so You'll get it.
Wild guys rocked them with Izodpolos and rolled up jeans.
In 2010, Tree Torn has launchedthe Eco Essentials Initiative,
reimagining classic styles withsustainable materials like
recycled rubber and locallysourced canvas styles with
sustainable materials likerecycled rubber and locally

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sourced canvas.
Today, the brand balancesheritage and innovation, still
producing timeless sneakers thatsay a summer in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Nantucket.
Yeah, they were really preppylooking when I saw them.
They were like white canvaswith like khaki canvas and blue,
that navy blue.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Very yuppie.
Obviously they had them allover my school because Obviously
, you had your ducks.
I did have tree twins, thoughthe first ones I had were blue.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Yeah, but you had weirdo tree twins.
You didn't have normal peopletree twins.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
No, mine, the gullwing was pink and white
checkered, and then I would drawon them Mm-hmm, yeah, I'm going
to skip, hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I miss drawing on shoes.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
All right people.
I know We've gone on for anhour, but I just have two more
and you'll just suck it up andlisten.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
And we really hope you've enjoyed this, because God
I know I have it's been a lotof fun.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Yeah, I don't know if you all use these, the iconic
yellow and black study guides.
Oh yeah, cliff's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Notes Cliff's Notes yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Founded in 1958.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
I never did because I felt like I was cheating and I
was a super nerd.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
I was a super nerd and I did them anyway.
Founded in 1958 by Clifton Hillbut I had to do it on the
download because my mom wouldnever have bought them Hillgrass
, a Nebraska native working atthe Nebraska Book Company.
Hillgrass struck a deal withJack Cole, co-owner of Canadian
Canada, canadia.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Canada's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Cole Notes to bring the concept to the US.
So Canadia, adam, first thatcrazy Canadia.
He and his wife Catherinestarted the business in their
Lincoln Nebraska basement,launching with 16 Shakespeare
titles.
By the end of the first yearthey had sold 58,000 copies.
A literary side hustle turnedacademic empire, hillgrass hired

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literature teachers to writeconcise summaries, character
analysis and author bios.
It was the Google of our day.
It really was.
The guides were designed tocomplement the original work,
not replace them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
But I mean, come on now it would tell you this is
not but I was always terrifiedof plagiarism, so I like read
stuff and gave my own Because mymom would have killed me if I
would have gotten caught forplagiarism.
So I like read stuff and gavemy own because my mom would have
killed me if I would havegotten caught for plagiarism.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
By 1964, cliffsnotes was selling over a million
copies annually.
Wow, in 1998, cliffsnotes wassold to IDG Books for $14.2
million.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Well, that was a waste of money, because then
Google came out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Then acquired by John Williams Sons in 2001 and later
by Huft and Mifflin Harcourt in2012.
In 2021, they were scooped upby Course Hero, signaling a new
era of online study support.
The brand became a proprietaryeponym.
I meant this was my favoritenew thing, eponym eponym and I

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didn't Google it.
You know how you read a wordand then you're like I love that
word, and then let me make sureI know how to use it, right
yeah.
But then never got thepronunciation Anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
That word.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Yeah, it became a brand like Kleenex.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Band-Aid CliffsNotes became shorthand for any short
consummate In 2011,.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
They partnered with TV producer Mark Burnett to
create 60-second video guides,so they are still well, 2011 is
kind of I like Mark Burnett.
So now they're just digitalized.
All right, this is my last itemand absolutely hands down my
favorite.
Oh, without a doubt.
And it's all of your favoritestoo, and I know this and I don't

(01:06:50):
even have to know you thesticker craze of the 1980s dude,
I found my sticker books.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Oh, did you?

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
I have some of my old sticker, wow oh gee, I mean
there might be in one of theseeaves yet, like we can probably
open this up and there might besome of my shit in there,
because she there were literalsticker stores.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Yeah, well, I get to that okay the sticker.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Craze is you got me excited.
I'm sorry, I told you I savedthe best for last.
The sticker craze of the 1980swas pure.
Well, the stick hold on.
The sticker craze of the 1980swas equal parts consumerism,
creativity and chaotic binderdecoration.
It was full-blown culturalmovement that turned adhesive
paper into currency, identityand obsession there will never

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be anything like that the boombegan when I've never been that
happy, since I know right.
The boom began when mrs grossman, a california designer,
accidentally printed heartstickers on rolls instead of
sheets.
That mistake birthed theconcept of stickers by the yard,
and suddenly kids could buyendless strips to decorate
everything from lunch boxes tomath books.

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By 1983 stickers were beingcalled the baseball cards of the
80s.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Kids collected, traded and hoarded them in
albums, shoe boxes and grocerybag covered text I had the photo
albums with the cellophone pagethat stuck to the sticky and
you peeled up and you'd fill thewhole page up.
That's what I found yeah, wasthat's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
I know that is so amazing I have to them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
They're still at my other house.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
This one.
I know all of you had thissticker.
Scratch and sniff Smelled likepizza, strawberries, bubble gum
or old shoes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
And it legit smelled like what it was supposed to
smell, like Like I smell candlesnow it's hard to find a candle
that actually smells like whatit says it is, and those
stickers and stickers straightup.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
And for a long long you could scratch the fuck out
of those things.
They would be dull in themiddle, it's probably, and it's
still smell.
You know what?
I think I figured it the fuckout.
That's why none of us look ourage, because we were shoving
preservatives up our snozzes andthat is what has made us look
so younger it's the keithrichards effect.
Yeah, we, we, we preservedourselves by doing lines of
scratch and sniff.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Oh my God, I'm still obsessed with stickers.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
So the ones you're thinking of are called Stinky
Stickers, the popular scratchand sniff sticker brand.
They were not stinky.
It's the name of the brand.
They weren't stinky though, butthat's the name of the brand.
They were developed by trendenterprises inc.
In 1978 as scratch and sniffawards.
These original scented stickerswere available in a few scents,
like cherry and bubble gum, butwere sold as part of award pads

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.
Remember the banana ones?
Yes, it had a little banana,and if I saw it when I was doing
this and they were the firststickers that popped up and I
was was like oh my God.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
The grapes had little grapes on them yeah and they
were animated grapes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Yes, by 1979, they were redesigned and sold as a
standalone product line.
The stickers became a majortrend in the 1980s.
They offered 100 differentdesigns and scents by 1985.
They offered 100 differentdesigns and scents by 1985.
They recently reintroduced someof these original designs as
retro stinky stickers in 2023.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
I bet they are stinky now Because it's probably
illegal to sell the stuff anduse the stuff that we used back
in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Gail Mattson was an American inventor who developed
the underlying scratch and stifftechnology for 3M in the 60s.
Although I didn't find how theymade them, I think it's
proprietary.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
I guess they probably don't want lawsuits, so they're
just not going to tell you howthey made them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
It was probably asbestos or something it
probably held the scent reallywell yeah, um, fuzzy stickers,
uh, velvety textures shaped likeskunk soccer balls or scotty
dogs.
You, you're fucking killing me.

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So yeah, the fuzzy stickers.
So I didn't have.
I liked the fuzzy stickers, butI didn't have a whole lot of
them, because didn't some of?

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
them come with, like googly eyes, are you going to
talk about puffy stickers?

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Okay, so I'm going to wait then.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
But I had a lot of fuzzy stickers and I just want
to say because I am just soexcited right now and I can't
stop thinking about it like so,the Milford Plaza, which is
basically the just I don't evenknow the word for it, but it is
the epitome of my childhood.
We used to cruise the plaza onthe weekends when we got our

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driver's license, but this plazaand it's still there um, it had
a sticker store and I wish theystill had stickers.
I would shop at sticker storesif they still had them.
It was an an affordable way togo in and just be so happy.

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And I would buy photo albumswhich, by the way, I don't know,
gen x, if you have bought anyphoto albums lately but they are
fucking outrageously expensive.
Like what the hell?
Because we're all finding ourold pictures and maybe we would
like to put them in photo albums, but no, even at target they're
like 50 bucks a piece, likeit's ridiculous.

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But yeah, the sticker, like youmove my sticker books were the.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
They were like a hard plastic not a hard plastic not
like a cardboard coated so youbought sticker books?

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
yes, I bought photo albums and put the stickers.
In them put the stickers inthem, put the stickers in them,
like they were as important tome as pictures of my family
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
I had the sticker books and then they would put
them in like, categorize each,like you put your scratch and
sniffs here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Or like this theme jungle animals, or no, I had
complete control over my stickercollection and.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
I did it the way I wanted it not the way some hard
book was going to tell me to doit.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
You could go rude I can't wait to get those back and
show you I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Oh my God, You'll get those pictures I want with this
.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Absolutely.
Well, I don't have them.
Oh, okay, they're one of thethings I have to go back and get
back and get um.
So, yeah, uh, fuzzy stickers,the metallic and holographic
ones.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
yeah, I wasn't yeah, I was never a fan of because
they were weird, they were toothin or something.
Yeah uh, pop culture stickersfeaturing cabbage patch kids,
michael jackson, gremlin,scooby-doo, ghostbusters and the
muppets.
So the sticker albums kids fellinto two camps.
Smack them down.
Collectors who filled albumswith no rhyme or reason Me.
Trade ready collectors who keptstickers pristine on their

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backing paper, ready for swaps.
No, no, I was not.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
You know what?
Actually, my daughter myyoungest and her boyfriend both
have their birthdays within thesame week and I love wrapping
presents.
So I went to the Dollar Treeand I bought just generic little
white gift bags, some cutetissue paper and stickers, and I

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took markers and I drewballoons, like I used to do when
I was a kid on there, and theymade fun of my balloons and I
put stickers on the bags andit's.
They're just so versatile.
Seriously, stickers make mehappy.
I have a shelf at home that Icollect stickers whenever I
travel somewhere or I buysomething or whatever, like I

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got a free sticker one way oranother.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
I didn't spend any money, but I got a free sticker
when we went.
She was so excited.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Yeah, I didn't spend any money, but I got a free
sticker.
And I was like oh my god, I gota free sticker and I have like
a three long, three shelfbookshelf that I painted like a
lavender color and I've beencollecting stickers and I'm
covering it in stickers and Iyeah, I mean it definitely.

(01:15:08):
This trend definitely stuckwith me for life.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Sticker stores popped up across the country and
brands like Sandy Lion madestickers their entire business
model.
Stickers were more thandecorations.
They were identity markers.
Your collection said who youwere, what you loved and how
cool you were I had a lot of catstickers.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Even back then I would still buy cat stickers.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
And peeling the perfect sticker and placing it
just right on your trapperkeeper was a spiritual
experience.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Actually, the stickers that I bought for my
daughter and her boyfriend'sbags were cats With houseplants.
She's a cat lady.
They were cats and houseplants.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
This is another thing , how we disagree, because I am
not a cat lady.
I like dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Yeah, I like dogs.
I don't want dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Yeah, I want dogs.
I don't mind cats, I have cats.
Cats keep showing up.
What's it called the catdistribution program?

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
for some reason seems to like to give me cats, I
don't know why distributionprogram for some reason seems to
like to give me cats, I don'tknow why.
It's the weirdest thing, like Ihad two twin orange cats for
years.
We got them as kittens and thenthey both passed within the
same general time because theywere brothers, and literally
these four cats that I have nowthat are seven years old, all
just showed up to me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Like I didn't go seeking a cat and and I haven't
had.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
I mean, of course, like a lady came into work last
week and she had this big box,cardboard box, and the thing was
folded and she's carrying itlike all awkward.
I was like what's that?
She's like a kitten.
I was like what?
And she's like, well, I wasgonna take you to the spca but
they were closed and and then myboss was like, uh, you can't
have a kitten in here, sorry.
So she had to leave.
But anyway, she was like youknow, anyone wants a kitten.

(01:16:48):
I was like, get away from me, Iam not, get a fuck away from me
I have four cats.
I have had my four cats sevenyears and I am not in the market
for a kitten my cats have shownup.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Um well, I made you take one yes, once yes, he was
an awesome cat, though.
Okay, we had an agreement.
I fell in love with your dog.
I know I'm saying he and I hadan agreement.
I fed him, I changed his litterand he lived there see, when I

(01:17:23):
had him he was awesome, but whenhe was aggressively nice, he
was aggressively friendly it wasa little bit too much for me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
That's how my friend and he.
He reminds me a lot of myfriend um, my friend's cat, my
friend that I live with, um.
She has a cat named um sunnyand he's a big orange boy and
he's long-haired, like magic wasum and he likes his love, but
he has humongous claws andhumongous teeth and when he's in

(01:17:53):
the mood to play, I don't knowif he's trying to kill you, but
it really feels like it and Iguess that's how magic was.
But magic fell in love withraven.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Yes, and I had to keep him.
And then I had he didn't cleanhimself, he did not clean
himself, he was dirty, so I hadto I shaved.
And then I had he didn't cleanhimself, he did not clean
himself, he was dirty, so I hadto I shaved him because he was,
he was part mancoon yes and, uh,I had to shave him all the time
and he would get the lion cut.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
And he did look pretty freaking handsome with
the lion cut but yeah, Iremember when, um when I had him
, before he and raven moved intogether um the back of my couch
the wall was white and therewould always be dark spots where
he had leaned against the wall.
He was very dirty.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
And then sadly at the end of his life because he
lived to be like 20.
And let me tell you else,people, this bitch made me take
this cat right.
And then the cat got cancer inhis fucking ear and the way I
found out is that the tumor grewthrough his eardrum and burst
out and he was shooting bloodeverywhere and then he was deaf.

(01:18:56):
So she gave me a cat withcancer.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
I didn't give it to you, raven.
Yeah, it was Raven's fault.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
And he lived to be like 20.
And it was very sad because 20.
And at the end it was very sadbecause near the end of his life
he did go senile and he wouldjust walk in circles screaming
Anyway, yeah, so that's thatabout that, and you're such a
good person.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
And that's the episode.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Yeah, that was amazing.
I have to say that was one ofmy favorite episodes ever.
We tried to bring up Gen Xnostalgia with our own little
opinion, our own big opinionsabout everything in it.
But that was the shit.
Thanks, that was amazing.
Thank you so, so much.
I cannot wait to get my stickerbook back.

(01:19:44):
She's so excited about herstickers.
I'm going to creep in in themiddle of the night and steal my
sticker books.
There you go, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Stickers were cool.
I don't know if I saw.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
I doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
I saw you should wait until the last minute to do
your episodes every week.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
I know right, although you always crush it,
but that was really amazing.
Thanks, I loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
Thank you, so I'm sure there's going to be a lot
of fun on the social medias thisweek with this topic.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
I'm going to try, because then I mean there's all
kinds of, I mean there's endlessopportunities.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
What's your favorite sticker?
And yeah, I think this one willbe a good one.
So check us out on the socials.
See how I did that.
That like whatever pod on allthe socials you can like, share,
rate, review, find us where youlisten to podcasts and you can
send oh wait, hold up, back itup.

(01:20:39):
I'm going to add if you want tobuy me a coffee on the, buy me
the coffee like whatever pod atbuy me a coffee or however, I
don't remember, but it's likeit's buy me a coffee and then
like whatever pod, I think, butanyway, and you can help me buy
an octopus.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Oh yeah, and I'll buy some stickers.
Yeah, no, seriously, we'llupgrade our equipment.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Or we could just send us stickers, send us pictures
of your stickers no, send mestickers.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Send, I don't want pictures of your stickers.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Okay, oh, find us wherever you listen like share
rate review.
Follow us on the socials atlike whatever pod, you can send
an email about what's yourfavorite sticker or what
underoos you wore or arecurrently wearing.
It was and the email.
It's like whatever pod atgmailcom or don't like whatever

(01:21:37):
what ever bye.

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