Jaunt and Jive back to 75: a Joyful Journey

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Two best friends.
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Teenage dreams, neon screens.
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sharing our stories.
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It's like whatever.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Welcome to Like Whatever a podcast for.
By and about Gen X.
I'm Nicole and this is my BFF,heather.
Hello, so so the Eagles aregoing to the super bowl super
bowl bound.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
How about it?
Oh man, that was a fun game.
Look, I know that we controlledthe game and it probably, from
an outside, hurt.
Look like we whipped their ass.
Unfortunately, that is not theway it felt.
No no.
If you were an Eagles fan foras long as we have been Eagles

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fans and we have had this takenaway from us so many times.
So many Heartbreakingly that itwas just you were not safe.
I had people texting me ohcongratulations, you're going to
the Super Bowl.
And I'm like, not until thereare zeros across the board am I
going to be okay with it.
It's just.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, my son-in-law is a Commanders fan and so last
weekend they text me after thegames were done last weekend.
They were like, let's watch thegame together next week.
I was like no, no, no, no, like, no, no, no, no, no, it's gonna
be stressful enough.
I mean, I don't want to watchit with anybody.
It's not personal against him,but I really don't want to watch

(01:54):
it with a commander's fan no soyeah, yeah, now I have two
weeks of stress to I know, butthen the joke was on me, because
I texted them after this gameand said all right, let's have a
Super Bowl party at my house.
And they're like oh, we alreadymade plans with our friends.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Whatever Screw you, I'll watch it without you.
Then, yeah, I just shoo.
And then Kansas City.
Okay, so you know I'm likesuperstitious.
We literally just had aconversation like five minutes
before we started this about megetting little trinkets from my

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dead friends.
Yes, so I'm very superstitious.
I would rather play the Chiefsthan the Bills, because I'd
rather go up against the Chiefshistory than the Bills history
oh yeah, yeah, they're not goingno, they're not going.
Oh, and what five it's nothappening right, just like, and

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you know, if you think about it,it's you know you're going up
against Kansas City and they arethe new dynasty and we beat the
last dynasty after they beat usonce and we came back a couple
years later and beat them.
So it's you know, we'll seeyeah, I.

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Saquon Barkley's birthday.
Saquon Barkley, oh my gosh, hejust is.
I love him.
He's magical, he gosh, he justis.
I love him.
He's magical, he is, and hejust is so humble and he's such
a team player and it's just beensuch a shame that he got
railroaded.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I mean, it worked out for him.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
It did.
So one of my favorite thingsabout him was when he got
treated and he told his littledaughter and she said oh, you're
going to the Eagles.
Does that mean you're going towin now?
That's cute.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, he didn't know that you got hats and shirts for
winning the division.
And he didn't know you gotshirts and hats and all that.
He never knew he got any ofthat.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
So he was excited about that.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, you know, it's just.
It was a good game.
It was only stressful a littlebit so I didn't have to like the
week before where I had to likehave an aneurysm.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yes, but yeah, super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Super Bowl, super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
What else is going on ?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
I am looking into getting a puppy.
So we had a Doberman namedRocky and he passed away in
August of old age and at firstwe did the recently deceased dog
.
I'm never getting another dog.
And then it was weird because Idon't think I've ever not had a

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dog in my life Like my parentshad dogs.
My whole adult life I've haddogs.
So this is a weird period forme.
It's funny.
It's little things like youthink you hear a noise and you
look and you're like well, mycats are sleeping, they're not
going to move anyway, so I don'tknow.

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So anyway, we, we, um, we founda puppy that's looking to be
rehomed because the parent workstoo much and feels bad that
it's in the cage a lot.
Because the parent works toomuch and feels bad that it's in
the cage a lot, so maybe nextweek when we announce.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
That's exciting.
You'll hear barking in thebackground while we record,
because we'll have a dog here.
That is exciting stuff it is,it is.
Yeah, it's just luck.
I have always gone with dogs.
Also, there has been a veryshort period of time in my life
that I did not have a dog, and Ithink it was only like six
months when I was a kid and mydad came home with a dog.

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But yeah, mine's getting older,he's 11.
Gray face and I keep saying Ithink this is probably going to
be the last one.
It's just, I don't you know,especially last week when it was
20 degrees and I'm outsideshivering and he is fucking
around in the yard and it's just, I don't you know, especially
last week when it was 20 degreesand I'm outside shivering and

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he is fucking around in the yardand it's like, bro, come on,
just hurry it up.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
So I think I'm Well, maybe the bird will suffice you
for Well, and that's just it,because she takes a lot of work.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
She does.
She is a lot of work.
So yeah, and it's the same.
You, you know you can't goanywhere.
You have to, you know you gotto worry about getting home to
them and you can't.
You got to find somebody who'llwatch it.
You can't cats, you just leavefor like four days and they're
fine, right.
But you can't do that with adog, and not that I go anywhere

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ever.
But you know, I blame it on thedog and that might be why I get
another dog, or I just blame iton the bird from then on,
because she's going to be justas hard to leave you even worse,
yeah because she she has tohave daily, like you can't just
leave the bird alone because shehas.
I make her food, so I have to.

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It's all fresh and so you haveto clean it out every day.
Right, she's just a and nobody,nobody wants to bird sit, no.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Please don't ask me to bird sit, because my husband
will say yes.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
He wants to see my bird, so bad I send him videos.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I've had bad experiences with birds.
I love birds, I love allanimals.
You'll like her.
They make me skittish.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
You'll like her bad experiences with birds.
I love birds, I love allanimals, but you'll, you'll like
her, they make me skittish.
You'll like oh well, she's, uh,she makes a like when they fly
this particular kind of bird.
When they fly, they make like atheir wings.
I don't know why, but it theymake a whirling sound Like you
hear them.
You can hear her coming fromlike, oh why?

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Oh, far away.
So she's, and she's very beaky,like they, they, they do it's
called body surfing.
And then she will run her beakand her whole face on you and
that's just her.
You know, right, she does thatwith literally everybody.
She.
That's how she gets to know you, I guess I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
She does that with literally everybody.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
That's how she gets to know you, I guess.
I don't know, but she will alsojust roll over randomly and you
have to try and catch her,which she almost hit the floor
yesterday because she decided toroll over out of nowhere and
then she kept throwing a littleball at me, like when I say

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throwing it at me, I meanwinging it at my head.
So she was wound up, so but butshe's a good, she's a, she's a
cool bird and she's just tiny,so but she's a lot of fun and
she's not like your average.
She doesn't talk, she'sactually not noisy at all.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
So I guess, yeah, we're boring this week, we don't
have anything.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
No, I was really stretching to think of what I
had done this week, and I haveliterally not done anything.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I made French toast casserole the other morning with
Hawaiian rolls.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
But other than that, I made art lobster lasagna rolls
.
I saw that homemade meatballsyeah, homemade cheese mixture my
soul homemade sauce I saw thatthey're gone.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I know I figured they did not last.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
They look so good they were so good.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I need to make meatballs.
I haven't made meatballs in awhile.
Oh, there's so much work I justnever get to cook anymore.
I don't know.
My boss the other day asked meif I missed it and I was like I
really really do, I really missit a lot.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
At least you have that to fall back on when you
lose your job at the post office, that's true.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
And I will have to go back to restaurants and
hopefully they will pay mehandsomely for my expertise,
because for a little while thereI could have made just fat
money right after COVID startedand stuff and they were trying
desperately.
Cooks were.
I mean they were paying.
I had several very handsomeoffers.

(10:03):
I had a very handsome offerover the summer or the spring.
I had a very handsome offer tojump.
But you know, pensions.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Pensions.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Health insurance.
You know I can't be without myhappy pills.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, being an adult sucks, it really does.
But man, I can't be without myhappy pills.
Yeah, being an adult sucks, itreally does.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
But man, I would go back and I would just get tired
of it again in six months.
I wouldn't remember how hard itwas and how my feet hurt all
the time.
And I'm 50 years old at thispoint, right, and I don't know
if I can work those hoursanymore and in that heat anymore
.
And it wouldn't be my kitchen,not that that matters, but

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whatever.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
I don't know.
Well, speaking of being 50.
Yes, See how I did that for you, See how I caught that my
husband will be 50 on Monday,February 3rd.
Um, so this week was my week,um, to pick the topic.
So I decided to fuck around andfind out about 1975.

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1975.
So my husband has yet to listento the podcast.
Every time it comes up he'slike I'm sorry, I'm like
whatever, I don't care, Loser.
But I told him I was like soyou're going to have to listen
this week so you can find outthe things that happened the
year you were born.
But he probably still won't.

(11:34):
But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I'm going to tell him .

Speaker 1 (11:38):
We talked about the bird that might get him in.
So I just I went and I foundsome, just some fun things that
happened back then and I kept itlight and fun because we've
been a little heavy the past fewweeks.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, and we needed a little lightness.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
So anything bad that happened in 1975, like really
bad I excluded from this.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
We're just going to disregard anything negative that
happened in 1975.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
All sunshine and roses, alright.
So, first thing, wheel ofFortune debuted.
Yeah, wheel of Fortune was oneof the longest running
syndicated shows, game shows, orwell, it is one of the still
was.
Yes, See, I screwed up already,we just got started, yeah on
American television.
It premiered on NBC on.
It was yes, see, I screwed upalready.

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We just got started.
Yeah, on American television.
It premiered on NBC on January6th 1975.
It was created by televisionlegend Murph Griffin and hosted
since the early 1980s by PatSajak and Vanna White.
Wheel is one of the mostpopular television shows in the
world.
I'm not a fan of the Wheel.

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I'm not.
When I was younger I used tolove it.
Then I became an adult andpeople hated watching with me
because I'm one of those thatcan solve it really quickly,
like one letter and I can figureit out.
And then it just became dumb,like some of the phrases they
put.
I'm like that's not a phrase.
You're just throwing wordstogether and try to confuse
people.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I always liked jeopardy better, so oh yeah,
always.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
And of course I loved will fortune back in the day
more when they'd win.
And then that turntable, thatlarge stage turntable thing
would turn and they'd have topick.
I always wanted the dog statue.
There was always a Dalmatiandog statue.
I was like, get the dog, butthey'd get like the refrigerator
.
Yeah, something dumb, butanyway Something useful.

(13:34):
Yeah, a dog statue.
I was a kid, so Griffin, whohad already created another
iconic game show, jeopardyconceived of wheel as a
combination between hangman androulette, contestants guess
letters as they attempt to solvea hangman like puzzle, spinning
the wheel to determine how muchmoney they will earn for a

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correct guess, with the ultimategoal being to solve the puzzle
and accumulate as much money aspossible.
Since the show's inception, theprice of a vowel has stood at
$250 and has not been adjustedfor inflation.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Well, that's because $250 for a vowel is just
expensive.
Imagine that in real life, Imean what is that In 80s money,
that's like a lot.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
It's a lot, yeah, but I didn't realize that it had
never changed.
It's like the waitressing wagethat's $2.23.
An hour.
Since I was doing it in the 80s, the phrase I'd like to buy a
vowel and I'd like to solve thepuzzle have entered the American
cultural lexicon.

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Sajak and White, who joined in1981 and 82 respectively, have
become some of the most famoushosts in game show history.
White, who operates the boardand reveals letters as their
guest, often contributes her ownpuzzles to the show In more
than 6,500 episodes.
She has apparently never wornthe same gown twice.

(15:00):
Wow, yeah.
The show's producers claim thatmore than 1 million people have
auditioned to be contestantsand the show has paid out a
total of more than $200 million,which I thought was kind of low
.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, for being on the air for 50 years.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, but I don't know, who knows.
Painfully awkward or incorrectguesses by contestants have also
been comedic fodder forgenerations of americans wheel
of fortune.
There was that one recently,like in the past year I think, a

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guy said like put it in yourbutt or something is what he
guessed Everybody on the show islike what.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
I'm surprised they didn't edit that one out.
They film like seven or eightof them in one day.
But wow, and she's never.
You know that's.
I did not know she contributedthat much to the show.
That's good for her.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, I didn't know that either.
Yeah, so yeah, pat Sajak has.
Yeah, I didn't know that either.
Um, yeah, so yeah, pat say jackhas retired.
I, I did know that.
And now it's ryan seacrest.
He's fucking everywhere.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
I did not know until, like the other day, I called it
because I didn't feel likebrowsing through netflix or any
of those.
So I was like I'll just put theregular channel on and I was
like, is that Ryan Seacrest?

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Is this a?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
new version of the wheel.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
What is happening, I know In some places.
I know Wheel of Fortune comeson first and then Jeopardy.
Here, jeopardy comes on first,then Wheel of Fortune.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yes, At my house it was always.
Wheel came on first and thenJeopardy.
That's how.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I was when I was young.
Yeah, yep, it's like a mad raceto change the channel before
that.
Get it off, get it off.
Fun fact number two about 1975.
Barry Manilow's Mandy goesnumber one.
I love that song.
I like Barry Manilow, loveBarry Manilow.
My mom was a big Barry Manilowfan so his album played often in

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the house.
Barry Manilow scored his firstnumber one single with Mandy on
January 18th 1975.
He would go on to sell morethan 75 million records over the
course of his career, at theheight of Barry Manilow's
popularity.
None other than Frank Sinatrahimself said of Manilow he's
next.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Was that a threat If I had heard that, if I was Barry
Manilow, I would be watching myback.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, for real If.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Frank said, you were next.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I just watched a documentary on Gotti last night,
so my brain went right where heis.
Yet even in his heyday and moreyouthful arbiters of cool were
not kind to him.
They called Manilow's musicboombastic and schmaltzy.
Which what's wrong withboombastic and schmaltzy?

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I don't know that I would use that really to
describe Barry Manilow's music.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Definitely not boombastic to describe Barry
Manilow's music, but definitelynot boom-bastard, Even as the
Americans devoured his everyrelease.
But critics may have missed thepoint.
Barry Manilow never fanciedhimself hip or cool, far from it
.
I have purposely tried not tostay in sync with the times.
He said I just do what feelsgood.
Even as a teenager in the 1950s, Barry preferred pop standards

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and Broadway show tunes to ElvisPresley's records, and it was
his love of this style of musicthat led to his big break At the
Copa, copa Cabana, copa Cabana,go ahead.
I love Barry Manilow.
I know I also watched a showthe other day.
I can't remember what the nameof the show oh no, that wasn't

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it Anyway.
Elvis Presley just reminded meof it and it was about Jerry Lee
Lewis.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
I was watching it with my husband and my nephew
and I was like, yeah, he youknow it first comes on and they
play Great Bells of Fire andthey're dancing.
I was like no, please, pleasedon't.
He's very problematic, he'svery gross, and I don't care
what the times were like, it'snever okay to marry a
13-year-old.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Cousin, he was her cousin.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yes, yes, anyway, if you don't know about him, look
it up he.
Anyway, if you don't know,about him.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
look it up, he's gross.
Also played by Dennis Quaid inthe movie Great Balls of Fire.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
I do like Dennis Quaid though.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
I like that movie.
That's a good movie.
Is it Winona in it?
I don't know.
I think Winona plays his wife.
I'm going to Google it whileyou're talking.
Okay, I'm going to Google itwhile you're talking.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Okay, so while working as a commercial jingle
writer and performer andpursuing a recording career with
limited success, manilow met akindred spirit named Bette
Midler.
He first became her pianoplayer, then graduated to
musical director, lending hisarranging and orchestration
talents to her Divine Miss Malbum and tour, on the condition

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that he would be allowed toperform a short set of his own
songs during her intermission.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Surprised he didn't try to open for her.
I know I wonder if that was nota thing.
Not a thing, it was 1-0-0, bythe way.
Oh, okay, good, it was 1-0-0,by the way.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Oh, okay, good, it was this experience that landed
Manilow a gig as DionneWarwick's opening act.
Oh, there were opening acts,and I love Dionne Warwick as
well.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I saw her over the summer.
Oh At the Freeman's thing.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
She's awesome, which in turn led Clive Davis to take
him under his wing at the newlyformed Arista Records.
Then came Mandy.
It's a Miracle.
I write the songs that make theworld go round Looks like we
made it and a string of 21 moretop 40 hits between 1975 and

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1983.
Hits that helped earn BarryManilow recognition by Billboard
and Radio and Records as thetop contemporary chart artist of
all time.
His days as a chart artist maynow be behind him, but Barry
Manilow continues to fillconcert venues around the world
with fans whose enjoyment of hismusic seems undiminished by the
jokey barbs of the pop criticalestablishment.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I think it's yeah, he gets a lot of, but everybody
knows the Copacabana andeverybody knows Mandy.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, and his followers are called Fanalos, so
that's a pretty cool name.
So I think he's cool.
I don't care what anybody elsesays.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I like Barry Manilow.
But I got to say, like I knowwe all have that guilty pleasure
that we listen to.
That's like completely outsideof what you would think we would
listen to.
And I have to say that mine isLionel Richie and I will die on
the Lionel Richie hill.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yes, I love Lionel Richie.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Every time I hear a Lionel Richie song while I'm in
the grocery store shopping.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I think of Heather because she loves him.
I do.
I love it so much I would danceon the ceiling for Lionel Rich,
Alrighty.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
So next we're going to go back and just do a little
brief recap of Microsoft.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
If you would like to know how Microsoft bailed Apple
out, you can listen to one ofour previous episodes.
I don't remember which one itis, but it is Bill and Steve's
Nerdy Adventure.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Someone just listened to that one recently, I know
today.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Oh yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
All right.
So on April 4th 1975, at a timewhen most Americans use
typewriters, childhood friendsBill Gates and Paul Allen found
Microsoft, a company that makescomputer software.
Originally based in Albuquerque, new Mexico, microsoft
relocated to Washington State in1979 and eventually grew into a
major multinational technologycorporation.

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In 1987, the year afterMicrosoft went public,
31-year-old Gates became theworld's youngest billionaire.
Earl Gates became the world'syoungest billionaire.
Gates and Allen startedMicrosoft, originally called
MicroSoft.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Dash, I guess the dash MicroDashSoft.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, For microprocessors and software.
In order to produce softwarefor the Altair 8800, an early
personal computer, Allen quithis job as a programmer in
Boston and Gates left HarvardUniversity, where he was a
student, to focus on their newcompany, which was based in
Albuquerque, because the citywas home to electronic firms,

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MITS, maker of the Altair 8800.
By the end of 1978, Microsoftsales topped more than $1
million and in 1979, thebusiness moved its headquarters
to Bellevue, Washington, asuburb of Seattle where Gates
and Allen grew up.
The company went on to licenseits MS-DOS operating system for

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IBM for its first personalcomputer, which debuted in 1981.
Afterward other computercompanies started licensing.
I guess it's MS-DOS.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
MS-DOS.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
I heard it when I did it the first time which had no
graphical interface and requiredusers to type in commands in
order to open a program.
In 1983, allen departedMicrosoft after being diagnosed
with Hodgkin's lymphoma.
He was successfully treated forthe disease and went on to
pursue a variety of otherbusiness ventures.

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In 1985, microsoft released anew operating system, windows,
with a graphical user interfacethat included drop-down menus,
scroll bars and other featuresunused scroll bars and other
features.
The following year, the companymoved its headquarters to
Redmond Washington and wentpublic at $21 a share, raising
$61 million.

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I can't even imagine paying $21a share Ugh by the late 1980s,
microsoft had become the world'sbiggest personal computer
software company based on sales.
Microsoft had become theworld's biggest personal
computer software company basedon sales.
In 1995, amidst high-racketingpurchases of personal computers
for home and office use, windows95 made its debut, boo.

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It included such innovations asthe Start Menu, and 7 million
copies of the new product weresold in the first five weeks.
During the second half of the1990s, internet usage took off
and Microsoft introduced its webbrowser, internet Explorer, in
1995.
In 1998, the US Department ofJustice and 20 state attorneys

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general charged Microsoft withviolating antitrust laws by
using its dominance to drivecompetitors out of business.
In 2001, the company reached asettlement with the government
that imposed restrictions on itscorporate practices.
Also in 2001, microsoft joinedthe video game market with the
launch of its Xbox console.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
That lawsuit is also why he helped Steve Jobs I
digress.
I knew that you would lovegetting to rehash that a little
bit.
That's why I put Steve Jobs Idigress.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I knew that you would love getting to rehash that a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
That's why I put it in.
It's like a little jab everytime.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
All right enough about Microsoft.
The next thing that happened in1975, lee Elder is the first
black man to win the Masters.
On April 10th 1975, 41-year-oldLee Elder becomes the first
black golfer to play in theMasters, considered the most

(26:54):
prestigious event in the sport.
By the way, do you know how youget Masters tickets?
I do not.
It's a lottery.
So once a year I get an emailand I go in and I do the.
It's a lottery, oh.
So once a year I get an emailand I go in and I do the lottery
and I haven't won yet.
It's been like 10 years now.
Where is it?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Augusta.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Georgia, I can't remember, but I would sell my
left arm to get there.
If I were to win tickets.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I used to follow up.
My dad and I would watch golf.
I haven't watched in a reallylong time.
I am a huge golf fan I want myI.
I you know when.
Actually why I stopped watching?
Because chichi rodriguez was myfavorite golfer and when he
retired him, and arnold palmer,I was like well yeah I don't
want to watch anymore see.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
And now lives messed it up for me because john rome
was my favorite and he went toLiv, but I do have video of him.
We went to a PGA Tour event inWilmington.
The BMW Tour, or BMW Tournament, is in different cities every
year.
So I was there and I went and Istood by a bridge and just

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videoed, like a big, dumb dork,as John Rahm came walking up
past the bridge, right past me,and I was just like I'm so
excited.
But it's so funny becausebefore we went my husband and I
were like we are not going to bethose people, like you see them
on TV and the ball goes out ofthe playing field and everybody
rushes it and you're like we'renot doing that.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
The first ball that came at us.
You know what my favorite movieis?
One of my favorite movies too,caddyshack.
No, happy Gilmore.
Yes, freaking love that movie.
I can line for line.
Price is wrong bitch.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Alright.
So Elder shoots a 37 on thefront.
Price is wrong bitch, All right.
So Elder shoots a 37 on thefront and back nine for a 74 at
Augusta National Golf Club andtrails leader Bobby Nichols by
seven strokes.
I didn't have any nervousnesswhatsoever, Elder said after the
round.
In round two Elder shot a 78and missed the cut.
In the tournament won by JackNicklaus, Elder had qualified

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for the Masters by winning the1974 Monsanto Open.
Many considered Elder'shistoric achievement, long
overdue for the Masters andAugusta National and for a sport
that had never been known forracial tolerance.
Yeah, Pretty much the whitestsport there is.
Yeah, it really is.
The Professional GolfersAssociation, the organizer of

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the main professional toursplayed by men in North America,
didn't approve participation ofAfrican-Americans in events it
co-sponsored until 1952.
And I know that was the time.
I just can't wrap my headaround.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
I mean, isn't it still true that there were some
places Tiger couldn't play?

Speaker 1 (29:55):
That does sound like, or at least it was a big deal.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
I think in the beginning, when he was coming up
, I think there were courses hecould not play.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, it's nuts.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Augusta National didn't have a black member until
1990, and that was businessmanRon Townsend, or a female member
until 2012, which was formerSecretary of State Condoleezza
Rice was former Secretary ofState Condoleezza Rice.
Elder was greeted with applause31 times during his round,
wrote New York Times columnistDave Anderson.

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But it was polite applause, notreally enthusiastic, and at no
time was Elder's name on theleaderboard where he belonged.
Because of his historic round,elder returned to play the
Masters from 1977 till 81.
His best finish was a tie for17th.
In 1979, 22 years after elder'sgroundbreaking achievement,

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tiger woods became the firstblack golfer to capture the
green jacket, launching one ofthe greatest careers in golf
history.
At the 2021 masters, elder wasgiven the honor of hitting the
ceremonial opening tee shotalongside six-time champion
Nicholas and three-time winnerGary Player, but he was not well

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enough to hit a shot.
Elder died on November 28th2021.
He was 87.
The game of golf lost a hero.
Nicholas said yeah, I thoughtthat was interesting.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, that is interesting.
I would have never guessedCondoleezza Rice.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I know.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
She didn't seem like the golfing type.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Well, apparently she is, which is kind of cool, all
right.
Next, president Ford says thewar is finished for America.
President Ford says the war isfinished for America.
At a speech at TulaneUniversity.
President Gerald Ford says theVietnam War is finished as far
as America is concerned.
Today, americans can regain thesense of pride that existed

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before Vietnam, but it cannot beachieved by refighting a war.
This was devastating news to theSouth Vietnamese, who were
desperately pleading for USsupport as the North Vietnamese
surrounded Saigon for the finalassault on the capital city.
The North Vietnamese hadlaunched a major offensive in
March to capture the provincialcapital of.
Good luck, ban Maidu Sure inthe Central Highlands.

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Good luck by both Presidents,richard Nixon and Gerald Ford,
to provide support.
The United States did nothing.
Yeah, richard Nixon wasn't agood president either.
In an attempt to reposition hisforces for a better defense,
south Vietnamese PresidentNguyen Van Thai ordered his
forces in the highlands towithdraw to more defensible

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positions in the south.
What started out as areasonably orderly withdrawal
soon degenerated into a panicthat spread throughout the South
Vietnamese armed forces.
Armed forces.
The South Vietnamese abandonedClicu and Can Thoam in the
highlands with very littlefighting, and the North

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Vietnamese pressed the attackfrom the west and north In quick
succession.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
I don't know why you put all these in there.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Quang Trai, hu and Danang that one I know and the
north fell to the communistonslaught.
The North Vietnamese continuedto attack south along the coast,
defeating the South Vietnameseforces at each encounter.
As the North Vietnamese forcesclosed on the approaches to

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Saigon, the Politburo in Hanoiissued an order to General Van
Tien Dung to launch the Ho ChiMinh campaign.
I do know Ho Chi Minh.
The final assault on Saigonitself.
Dung ordered his forces intoposition for the final battle.
The South Vietnamese 18thDistrict made a valiant final

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stand at Bixan Loc.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Somebody's listening that knows the name of these
towns they're like oh, lord,look if you came here for
pronunciation you are in thewrong you need to find a
different podcast to listen to,I will definitely give it my
best go.
But if you're here for facts,you should probably just move on
.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Forty miles northeast of Saigon, in which the South
Vietnamese soldiers destroyedthree of Dung's divisions.
However, the South Vietnamesefinally succumbed to the
superior North Vietnamesenumbers.
With the fall of Aung San SuuKyi on April 21st and Ford's
statement at Tulane, it wasapparent that the North

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Vietnamese would be victorious.
President Thao resigned andtransferred authority to Vice
President Tran Van Hung beforefleeing Saigon on April 25th.
By April 27th, the NorthVietnamese had completely
encircled Saigon and began tomaneuver for their final assault
.
On the morning of April 30th,the North Vietnamese had
completely encircled Saigon andbegan to maneuver for their
final assault.
On the morning of April 30th,it was all over when the North

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Vietnamese tanks crashed throughthe gates of the president's
palace in Saigon.
The South Vietnamesesurrendered and the Vietnam War
was officially over.
I didn't know.
That's how the war ended.
I didn't On to the next one.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
This one I'm excited about.
Yeah, I'm actually going to doan episode of this around.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yep, yep, and I knew that you were, which is kind of
why I did it, because I was like, yeah, this would be a little
precursor, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I'm going to do it like around Memorial Day weekend
, perfect.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
All right.
So, what we're talking about ison june 20th 1975 jaws was
released.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
It's only one of my favorite movies.
I can't move my like.
My favorite movies just veryrarely move out of the 70s I do
love jaws I mean, do you knowthat in dewey they do every year
they play it in um on the water.
They have a big screen theypull out and you can float
around in.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
I didn't know they did that.
I've seen that before.
I've actually thought aboutdoing it out here at the pool,
like just being in any waterwould be.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
I know, but in the bay.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I'm scared of sharks in the bay in the daylight.
I won't go into the bay anymorebecause I spent so much time as
a child in there, but I woulddo it for that I've been trying
to.
Yeah, I need to do it, It'll befun.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Go on.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
So it was a film, directed by Steven Spielberg,
that made countless viewersafraid to go into the water.
Countless viewers afraid to gointo the water.
The story of a great whiteshark that terrorizes a New
England resort town became aninstant blockbuster and the
highest grossing film in moviehistory until it was bested on
1977,.
By 1977, star Wars Jaws wasnominated for an Academy Award

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in the best picture category andtook home three Oscars for best
film editingiting, bestOriginal Score and Best Sound.
The film, a breakthrough fordirector Spielberg, then 27
years old, spawned severalsequels.
He was young.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
That's such a cool story too.
How that movie got made is areally cool story.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah, I can't wait for you to do it.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
And real quick too.
Um, there is a.
There was a cold case that hassomething to do with jaws and it
was just solved.
Um, maybe two years ago.
Oh yeah, exciting.
I can't wait for your episode.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
The film starred Roy Schneider as principled police
chief, martin Brody, richardDreyfuss as a marine biologist.
I had the biggest crush onRichard Dreyfuss back then yeah,
his name was Matt Hooper andRobert Shaw as a grizzled

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fisherman called Quint it wasset in the fictional beach town
of Amity and based on abest-selling novel released in
1973 by Peter Benchley.
Subsequent water-themed Benchleybestsellers also made it to the
big screen, including the Deepin 1977.

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With a budget of $12 million,Jaws was produced by the team of
Richard Zanuck and David Brown,whose later credits included
the Verdict in 1982, Cocoon in1985, and I loved Cocoon.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
I did too.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
And Driving Miss Daisy in 1989.
And of course, I loved DrivingMiss Daisy.
Sure Filming, which took placeon Martha's Vineyard,
massachusetts, was plagued bydelays and technical
difficulties, includingmalfunctioning mechanical
shortcuts.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
That's why you that's the best.
That would be a completelydifferent movie if that shark
had worked when it was supposedto work.
You're supposed to see thatshark in the beginning of the
movie.
They could not get it to work,so the whole time the studio
kept trying to shut it downbecause they were like the thing
doesn't work, blah, blah, blah.
And so the whole reason and thebest part of the whole movie is

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the suspense up to seeing theshark Was totally by mistake,
because the thing didn't work.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
There's a lot of cool stuff about that movie and the
speech about the USSIndianapolis.
There's a great story behindthat.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
And we're going to need a bigger boat.
Next, in 1975, Son sunny andcher got divorced after 13 years
together as a couple and sixyears of marriage, the last
three for the cameras.
The last three years of theirmarriage were for the cameras
pop singers and TV entertainersSonny and Cher are legally
divorced on June 26, 1975.

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With a string of pop hits inthe mid-1960s that began with
the career-defining I Got youBabe in 1975.
65.
, 65.
What'd I say?

Speaker 2 (40:37):
75.
You're 10 years old.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Sonny and Cher.
Bono established themselves asthe most prominent and appealing
married couple in the world ofpop music, Hipper than Steve
Lawrence and Edie Gourmet andfar more fun than John and Yoko.
Sonny and Cher projected animage of marital harmony that a
lot of people could relate to,An image not so much for perfect

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bliss but of a clearlyimperfect yet happy mismatch.
Mr and Mrs, Bono traded, Bonotraded, got mixed up with.
You two traded on that imageprofessionally for a solid
decade, even several years pastthe point that it was true, I

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remember.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
I used to watch the Sonny and Cher show.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, I used to watch it too, and I like Cher,
because my mom had long darkhair and she would use an actual
clothing iron on it to flattenit.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
My mom did too.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
She kind of looked like Cher.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
My mom had the same look.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
By the time they were divorced, sonny and Cher were
primarily known as televisionstars thanks to their hugely
successful NBC variety show, buttheir romantic and professional
relationships started in theSouthern California music
industry in the early 1960s.
In 1962, salvatore Sonny Bonowas working as a producer,

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gopher and sometimepercussionist for the legendary
producer Phil Spector when hemet Sherilyn Sarkeesian in a Los
Angeles coffee shop.
Just 16 years old and recentlydropped out of her Fresno
California high school, sherilynwas soon singing back up on

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such legendary Spectre-producedhits as You've Lost that Lovin',
feelin' by the RighteousBrothers.
Do Do Ron Ron by the Crystals.
Feeling by the righteousbrothers to do Ron Ron by the
crystals and be my baby by theRonnets.
The couple released oneunsuccessful single under the

(42:53):
name Caesar and Cleopatra beforelanding a number one pop hit in
1965 with I got you babe undertheir new name Sonny and Cher.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
I got you Caesar and Cleopatra.
That's terrible.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
That's awful.
It is awful.
Ultimately, Sonny and Cher hadonly a few career, for the pair

(43:23):
were fondering, floundering Ithink it's supposed to be
floundering.
I moved to Las Vegas where theydeveloped a nightclub act
featuring playful between.
Song bickering is whatultimately resurrected Sonny and
Cher's career.
By 1971, they were starring ina top 10 television program

(43:45):
built around that act that wouldrun off and on in various
incarnations until 1977.
Two years later they would beliving in separate homes and
with new romantic partners.
But it was not until two yearsafter that that their split
became public and their divorcefinal.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
I like Cher.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I think she probably is.
She's a very good actress.
Yes, mask is one of my favoritemovies also.
Yep, yep, because I just nevercan move out of the 80s.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Well, at least you're out of the 70s, oh, okay.
So next, arthur Ashe is thefirst black man to win Wimbledon
.
So it was a big year for blackathletes in 1975.
On July 5th 1975, arthur Ashedefeats the heavily favored
Jimmy Connors to become thefirst black man ever to win

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Wimbledon, the most covetedchampionship in tennis.
Again, another very white sporttraditionally.
Arthur Ashe began playing tennisas a boy in his hometown of
Richmond, virginia.
After winning a tennisscholarship to UCLA, ashe was
taken under the wing of tennisstar Pancho Gonzalez, who
recognized the young player'spotential.

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In 1968, ash became the firstBlack man to win the US Open.
Two years later he captured theAustralia Open for his second
Grand Slam title.
Over the next seven years, Ashwon his share of tournaments,
but no more majors, and,frustrated, he set his sights on
victory at Wimbledon, one ofthe most celebrated
championships in tennis.

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Having grown up in thesegregated South, ash became the
first Black man to win the USOpen in 1968.
The victory helped him find hisvoice on a wide array of social
justice issues.
Arthur Ash was 31 years old in1975 and seemingly well past his
prime, so his advancement tothe 1975 Wimbledon finals came

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as somewhat of a surprise to thetennis establishment, probably
in a lot more ways than one.
While Ashe's best finishes atWimbledon had been losses in the
semifinals in 1968, 1969, hisopponent, the brash 22-year-old
Jimmy Connors, was the defendingWimbledon champion.
In their three previousmeetings, connors had handled

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Ash easily.
Furthermore, connors was comingoff an impressive semifinal win
against Roscoe Tanner, whoseintimidating serve observers
called the hardest hitting everat Wimbledon, though many
thought he didn't have a chance.

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Ash formulated a game plan forthe match Hit nothing hard.
He planned to serve stronglyand then give Connors nothing
but junk, as Ash himselfdescribed it.
And then give Connors nothingbut junk, as Ash himself
described it.
Connors won the first game ofthe first set but then dropped
the rest of the set in just 20minutes, 6-1.
Although Connors won just onegame off Ash in the second set,

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he took the third set at 7-5.
His confidence restored,connors strutted around the
court while Ash closed his eyesbetween sets, concentrating on
the moment at hand.
Finally, with the shocked crowdcheering him on, ash finished
Connors off in the fourth set,6-4.
Ash retired from competitivetennis in 1980 after suffering a

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heart attack.
For his career he won 51tournaments In retirement.
Ash wrote the three-volume book51 tournaments in retirement.
Ash wrote the three volume booka hard road to glory, first
published in 1988, whichdetailed the struggle of black
athletes in America.
In 1983, after double bypasssurgery, ash was infected with
HIV during a blood transfusion.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, I forgot about that.
After revealing his disease tothe world in 1992, he said about
educating the public about HIVand AIDS.
He died of AIDS-relatedcomplications on February 6,
1993.
In 1997, the US Open's new homecourt was named Arthur S
Stadium.
I totally forgot about that.

(47:57):
I know when I read it I waslike oh, yeah, jimmy Connors, oh
yeah, yeah.
Jimmy Connors, though man, didyou have a crush on him?

Speaker 2 (48:07):
No, but I just loved how angry he would get and he
threw shit all the time.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
And he's the one that , yeah, I can respect that I
threw a lot of shit too In yourprofessional career, Not in this
professional career, but in myprevious professional career yes
.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Indeed.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
All right, and what was the number one song in
America in 1975?
What was the number one?
It was Van McCoy's the Hustle.
To the hustle To the hustle.
On July 26, 1975, van McCoy'sthe Hustle topped the Billboard
Hot 100 and Hot Soul singlescharts, simultaneously signaling
the beginning of the disco era.

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For, as popular as it wasduring much of the first half of
the 20th century, couplesdancing seemed poised to go by
the wayside of American popularculture by the early 1970s, that
is, until the arrival of adance called the Hustle, along
with a number one song by thesame name.
The Hustle would earn Van McCoya Grammy Award for Best Pop

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Instrumental Performance andgive him the biggest hit by far
of his tragically shortenedcareer.
He died of a heart attack in1979.
The impact of the record wentwell beyond its commercial
success, however.
As the hustle climbed the popcharts, it took an already
substantial dance craze andturned it into a cultural

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phenomenon, with variations likethe Latin, the line and the New
York hustles popping up ondance floors nationwide.
So you know my dad?

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, I do, you know my dad.
You all don't, but well, acouple of you might.
But my mom talked my dad intotaking disco lessons in the 70s,
if you can picture my poor dad.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
I can't even fathom that Doing the hustle.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Oh can he, my poor dad doing the hustle.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Oh, can he still do it?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
You know what he does , though.
He just refuses to acknowledgethat whole time period.
But if you ask him to do themummer strut, he will mummer
strut all over everywhere.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Because he used to perform in the mummer's parade.
He's a saxophone player Justlike you were.
Just yeah, because he used toperform in the Mummer's Parade.
He's a saxophone player, justlike you were.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Just like me.
Next up for 1975, labor leaderJimmy Hoffa is reported missing.
What yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Where did he go?

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Giant Stadium Wouldn't you like to know?

Speaker 2 (50:42):
You know, I think they looked for him.
I think when they tore it down,they were looking for him.
They didn't find him.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yeah, was it Geraldo that had the open some vault
that Hoffa was supposed to be inthere?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
was nothing in there, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
On the morning of July 31st 1975, James Riddle
Hoffa Riddle I've never heardthat name, it was his middle
name, but still One of the mostinfluential American labor
leaders of the 20th century isofficially reported missing
after he failed to return homethe previous night.
Though he is popularly believedto have been the victim of a

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mafia hit, conclusive evidencewas never found and Hoffa's fate
remains a mystery.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
I still think that, because Lake Mead is slowly
draining all of its and they'refinding all these people in
there that the mafia got rid of.
I wonder if that's where he is.
Ooh, that would be fun.
Either that or Giant Stadium.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Yeah.
Born in 1913 to a poor coalminer in Brazil, indiana, jimmy
Hoffa proved a natural leader inhis youth.
At the age of 20, he helpedorganize a labor strike in
Detroit and remained an advocatefor downtrodden workers for the
rest of his life.
Hoffa's charisma and talents asa local organizer quickly got

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him noticed by the Teamsters andcarried him upward through its
ranks.
Noticed by the Teamsters andcarried him upward through its
ranks.
Then a small but rapidlygrowing union, the Teamsters
organized truckers across thecountry and through the use of
strikes, boycotts and some morepowerful though less legal
methods of protest, one contractdemands on behalf of its
workers.

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Hoffa became president of theTeamsters in 1957 when its
former leader was imprisoned forbribery.
As chief, hoffa was lauded forhis tireless work to expand the
union and for his unflaggingdevotion to even the
organization's least powerfulmembers.
His caring and approachabilitywere captured in one of the more

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well-known quotes attributed tohim you got a problem?
Call me, just pick up the phone.
Hoffa's dedication to theworker and his electrifying
public speeches made him wildlypopular, both among his fellow
workers and the politicians andbusinessmen with whom he
negotiated, and the politiciansand businessmen with whom he

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negotiated.
Yet for all the battles hefought and won on behalf of
American drivers.
He also had a dark side.
In Hoffa's time, many Teamsterleaders partnered with the mafia
in racketeering, extortion andembezzlement.
Hoffa himself had relationshipswith high-ranking mobsters and
was the target of severalgovernment investigations
through the 1960s.
In 1967, he was convicted ofbribery and sentenced to 13

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years in prison.
While in jail, hoffa neverceded his office, and when
Richard Nixon commuted hissentence in 1971, he was poised
to make a comeback, released oncondition of not participating
in union activities for 10 years.
Hoffa was planning to fight therestrictions in court when he
disappeared on the afternoon ofJuly 30th 1975 from the parking

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lot of a restaurant in Detroit,not far from where he got his
start as a labor organizer.
His family filed a missingpersons report to the Bloomfield
Township Police the next day.
Several conspiracy theorieshave been floated about Hoffa's
disappearance and the locationof his remains, but the truth
remains unknown Unknown.

(54:10):
Yeah, I think he definitely gotcinder blocks tied to his feet.
Oh yeah, thrown in the watersomewhere, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Or he's in a bridge or a highway or giant stadium or
the bottom of Lake Mead.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
The big drums, oh yeah yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we were watching a murdershow the other day.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
That guy put his kids in there.
Yeah, that guy's an ugh.
Did you see the video of himtalking to the body cam footage
of him.
I don't think so, becauseanyway, he killed his wife and
two children and put them in oildrum.

(54:59):
That's crazy.
They couldn't even have afuneral.
They couldn't even put them incaskets because they were afraid
of a fire.
Their bodies were saturated.
Ew, yeah, it was pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
I only know about murders, I don't know.
Yeah, I know my thing I onlyknow about murders, I don't know
.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Yeah, I know my thing .
I know I've been watching a lotof it too.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
You know I like disasters too, and that's the
thing of it.
You know, because today is theChallenger yeah, you'd think
because I'm such a fan ofdisasters that I would be into
that one, but I'm not.
You know how much I love theTitanic and the.
Hindenburg.
Yes, I like a big disaster,uh-huh yeah, mount St Helens,

(55:51):
mm-hmm, that's good.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Anything, any other death and destruction you'd like
to talk about?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
I'm sure we'll find some more.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
On to the next one.
President Ford survives hisfirst assassination attempt.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Look at that.
There's going to be murder inthis one, because I know who
shoots him.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
September 5, 1975, president Gerald R Ford survives
an attempt on his life inSacramento, california.
The assailant, a petite,red-haired, freckled-faced young
woman named Lynette Fromm,approached the president while
he was walking near theCalifornia Capitol and raised a
.45 caliber handgun toward him.

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Before she was able to fire ashot, secret Service agents
tackled her and wrestled her tothe ground.
Shame on her.
You gotta be faster than that.
Lynette, from nickname squeaky,was a member of the notorious
Charles Manson family, a groupof drug addled groupies who

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followed cult leader Manson.
Manson and other members of hisfamily were convicted and
sentenced to prison formurdering former actress Sharon
Tate and others in 1969.
Do you plan on doing a CharlesManson?

Speaker 2 (57:08):
I would love to.
But if you really would like toknow a really good podcast on
episode on Charles Manson, well,they did several.
His last podcast on the leftdoes an amazing and Charles
Manson.
Well, they did several.
His last podcast on the leftdoes an amazing.
And Charles Manson, I don'tknow.
I think he gets a little bit ofa bum rap on that one.

(57:29):
I don't think it was so muchCharles Manson that was leading
that train.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Oh, yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
I think Tex had a lot more to do with it than Tex was
to I think.
Don't get me wrong, CharlesManson is nuts.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
I mean, you can look at his eyes and see that he was.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Yes, I just think he was more in it for the fame and
Tex was in it for the fame andTex was in it for the murder.
Yeah, Him and Big Patty, ohyeah.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Subsequently, fromm and other female members of the
cult started an order of nunswithin a new group called the
International People's Court ofRetribution.
The group terrorized corporateexecutives who headed
environmentally destructivebusinesses.
Fromm herself was still soenamored of Manson that she

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devised the plot to killPresident Ford in order to win
Manson's approval.
Fromm was convicted ofattempted murder and was
sentenced to life in prison inWest Virginia of attempted
murder and was sentenced to lifein prison in West Virginia.
She escaped in 1979, but wascaught within 25 miles of the
prison.
After Fromm's assassinationattempt, ford stoically
continued on to the Capitol tospeak before the California

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legislature.
The main topic of his speechwas crime.
Next fun fact from 1975 isPresident Ford survives second
assassination attempt.
It's a busy year for him.
On September 22nd 1975, sarahJane Moore aims a gun at

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President Gerald Ford as heleaves the St Francis Hotel in
San Francisco, california andSan Francisco, california.
The attempt on the president'slife came only 17 days after
another woman had tried toassassinate Ford while he was on
his way to give a speech to theCalifornia legislature in
Sacramento.
Moore's attempt was thwarted bya bystander, oliver Sipple, who

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instinctively grabbed Moore'sarm.
When she raised the gun she wasable to fire off one shot, but
it failed to find its target.
Secret service agents quicklyhustled Ford into a waiting
vehicle and sped him to safety.
So Fromm was a Charles Mansonfollower and Moore was a
mentally unstable former FBIinformant and accountant who

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fell into fringe revolutionarypolitics.
Both targeting both targetedFord as a symbol of their hatred
for the political establishment.
Moore served time in the sameprison in West Virginia as Fromm
.
Fromm escaped the prison in 79,but was caught and transferred
to a higher security facility.
Strangely, ford's secondwould-be assassin, moore, was

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imprisoned in the same facilityand escaped in 1989.
Seems like they have a realproblem.
Maybe get that shit on the rock.
Second would-be assassin, moore, was imprisoned in the same
facility and escaped in 1989.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Seems like they have a real problem.
Maybe get that shit on the rock.
Put some barbed wire up orsomething.
What's up with that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
She turned herself in two days later and, like Fromm,
was transferred to a highersecurity penitentiary.
Moore was released on parole in2007 and Fromm was released in
2009.
I'm surprised, when you shootat a president, that you don't
stay in jail forever.
Anyway, simple received awritten letter of thanks from

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ford, I think what's his name isout too, manson.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
No, no, he's dead.
Um no, the one that took a shotat Reagan.
Oh yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
I think he just got out, Huh.
So Sipple, the guy who stoppedthe first lead or the second
more, got a handwritten letterof thanks from Ford Later, some
critics claim that the WhiteHouse initially hesitated to
publicly thank Sipple, a formerMarine and Vietnam veteran,

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because he was gay.
How some things never change.
I think that's the worst thingabout doing a podcast on Gen X
is we have to go rehash.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
I mean, like I said, not that things have gotten a
lot better but they have gottena little bit better.
Yeah, a little bit, it's not asblatant.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Well, and you know a lot of the things from our
childhood.
You look back now and you'relike, Ooh, that was a little bit
.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Problematic, oh yeah, for sure?

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Yeah, all right.
So if you watch TV and you'veseen commercials, you might know
this.
Saturday Night Live is 50 yearsold this year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Live from New York.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
It's Saturday night.
On October 11th 1975, saturdayNight Live.
A topical comedy sketch showfeaturing Chevy Chase, john
Belushi, dan Aykroydner, garrettmorris, jane curtain and
lorraine newman makes its debuton nbc.
The 90-minute program, whichfrom its inception has been

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broadcast live from studio 8h atrockefeller center, includes a
different guest host and musicalact each week.
The opening sketch of each showends with one actor saying,
live from New York it's Saturdaynight.
Created by the Canadian-borncomedy writer Lorne Michaels,
snl has introduced a long listof memorable characters and

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catchphrases, from GildaRadner's Rosanna Rosanna, dana
to the Coneheads.
To Billy Crystal's Fernando,you look marvelous.
To Dana Carvey's church lady,isn't that special.
To bodybuilders Hans and Franz,we're going to pump you up To

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Coffee Talk host Linda Richmond,like butter A marvel clamp.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
The Madonna one was the best one it was.
I miss all verklempt.
The Madonna one was the bestone it was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
I miss all of those sketches.
They've become part of popculture history.
The show, whose cast haschanged continually over the
years, has also launched thecareers of such performers as
Bill Murray, Eddie Murphy, ChrisRock, Mike Myers, Adam Sandler,
Chris Farley, David Spade, JohnLovitz, Julia Louise Drivers,

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Tina Fey, Amy Poehler andKristen Wiig.
Some SNL sketches have evenbeen turned into feature films,
the two most successful examplesbeing the Blues Brothers in
1980 and Wade's World in 92.
And you're thinking of them?
What's that one called?

(01:04:04):
I don't know.
The show was originally knownas NBC's Saturday Night because
there was another show on ABCcalled Saturday Night Live with
Howard Cosell.
However, NBC eventuallypurchased the naming rights and
since 1977 the edgy comedyprogram has been called Saturday

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Night Live.
Lorne Michaels served as theshow's producer from 1975 to
1980, followed by Gene Domanianfrom 1980 to 81.
Dick Ebersole helmed the showfrom 91 to 95, and 81 to 85.

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Michael's returned to theprogram that year and has
remained executive producer eversince.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Have you watched any of that documentary?
They've got going on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
No.
It's really good yeah, Itotally intend to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
It's really good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
I've always been like it's really good.
I've always been a saturdaynight live fan.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
I just can't stay up that late anymore.
Yeah, and we do record it.
I was gonna say you can watchit anytime we do.
I know it's not a thing anymoreI'm busy watching murder I know
well, I mean take an hour outof your day and we'll see um.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
So the influential, influential comedian george
carlin hosted the debut episodeof saturday night live.
Later that year, candace bergenbecame the first woman to
assume snl hosting duties.
She went on to host the programfour more times.
In 1982, seven-year-old drewbarrymore hosted the show,
becoming the youngest person toever do so.
Snl is known for its topicalparodies and impersonations and

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for pushing boundaries with itssketches.
The show is also recognized forits political humor.
Chevy Chase famously portrayedPresident Gerald Ford as a klutz
, while Dana Carvey spoofedPresident George HW Bush and his
read-my-lips line.
George HW Bush and his Read myLips line.
Amy Poehler played SenatorHillary Clinton in numerous
skits, including one withHillary Clinton.

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Later, Kate McKinnon played heras a presidential candidate.
Tina.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Fey memorably portrayed the 2008 Republican
vice presidential nominations.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
They could be freaking twins.
She was so good and AlecBaldwin played President Trump,
and several cast members haveplayed President Biden.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
The last season.
This past season it's been DanaCarvey.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Oh, really, did you see that?
They everybody was demandingthat McKinnon come back to play
the pastor that implored the newpresident to be compassionate?
Oh did they Because they dolook exactly alike.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
The episode after Trump won and beat Hillary.
That was one of the saddest.
Like her performance on thatwas yes it was very good.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
I remember that episode yeah, she's, she sang
hallelujah yes, it was, that wasreally it was very moving yeah,
but my favorite skit from thatwas everybody sitting around the
apartment and they're excitedwe're gonna have to have our
first woman president and then,it keeps coming in, keeps coming
in, and they're like no wait.
And that's exactly how it wentdown for a lot of us.

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All right Onto the next one.
This one's here for your mom.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
I was just going to say, did my mom write this?

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Bruce Springsteen scores first pop hit with Born
to Run.
I don't think I knew that washis first number one hit.
Oh, I did.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Well, on October 11, 1975, the epic single Born to
Run became Bruce Springsteen'sfirst ever top 40 hit, marking
the first of his eventualtransition from little-known
cult figure to internationalsuperstar.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Bruce Springsteen.
My mom has forced my dad to seeBruce Springsteen so many times
.
They even saw Live Aid.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Yeah, so my parents have seen Sting and.
Bono and anybody who playedLive Aid, but they were there
for Bruce, but they were therefor Bruce Springsteen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
By 1975, 26-year-old Bruce Springsteen had two
heavily promoted major labelalbums behind him, but nothing
approaching a popular hit Tappedby Columbia Records as the next
big thing.
Back in 1973, he'd beenmarketed first as the new Dylan
and then as America's new streetpoet.

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But unless you were a rockjournalism junkie or had been
witness to one of his raucousthree-hour live shows.
He still plays three hours.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
He does not, he still plays three hours.
He does not, he still playsthree hours.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Yes, Dude, he's old.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
That's why my dad hates it, because he's like, oh
God, I'm going to sit there forthree hours.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
You had probably never bought one of his records
if you weren't when he was acult figure.
Born to Run would change allthat for the poet laureate of
the jersey shore, born in 1949in long beach, new jersey, bruce
springsteen grew up during thegolden age of american rock and

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roll, and it was his devotion tothe music of that era that
marked him as a breath of freshair during his rise to fame in
the early 1970s.
Writing for Rolling Stonemagazine in 1973, the legendary
rock critic Lester Bang said ofSpringsteen he sort of
catamumbles his ditties in adisgruntled mush mouth, sort of

(01:10:00):
like Robbie Robertson onQuaaludes with Dylan barfing
down the back of his neck.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
That's very accurate.
Having had to listen to nearlyevery Bruce Springsteen song
there is, I would agree withthat.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
I have to get a video of my dad doing his impression.
That was in a positive review ofSpringsteen's debut album,
greetings from Asbury Park, thefirst of many positive reviews
to come during the legendbuilding phase of his career.
In 1974, a Rolling Stone editornamed John Lando, writing in

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Boston's Real Paper, bestowedthis now famous praise upon the
boss I saw Rock and Roll'sfuture, and its name is Bruce
Springsteen.
One year later, lando wouldco-produce Springsteen's third
album and eventually take overmanagement of his career.
That third album was to bespringsteen's breakthrough and

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an american classic, born to run, which another giant of rock
criticism, grill marcus, likenedto a 57 chevy running on melted
down crystals records, whateverthat means.
While Thunder Road and BackStreets from the same album may

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be as beloved among devoted fansas the title track, it was the
Phil Spector-inspired Born toRun.
That was the first exposuremost Americans got to Bruce
Springsteen on this day in 1975was followed less than two weeks
later by simultaneous coverarticles of Springsteen and Time
and Newsweek magazines.
Now was your mom a pre-Born toRun fan?

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Yes, Was she?
Yes, my mom has been a.
Well, she would have heard ofhim because she was in Philly
and he was in South Jersey.
She also, when she came out ofher coma, said that we were like
, oh yeah, and she said that she, my dad, was not as good as
bruce springsteen, my poor dadlove you too um we.

(01:12:21):
I think the reason for that iswhen she was in the icu we
played, we brought cds and stuffwhen we played um first spring
scene all the time and the icunurses were so excited because
they were like we are so sick ofhearing classical music and all
that and I we brought my momfirst springsteen and Metallica.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
So she could listen to her boyfriend Pink.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Floyd yeah.
She's got a thing for JamesAtfield too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Well, he does look a lot like your dad, really, I
think so.
Yes, I never noticed, all right.
Next, I actually watched adocumentary on this recently.
Trial begins for the Amityvillemurders.
Do you know this story?
Of course I do.
Okay, I figured you do.
Ronald DeFeo Jr goes on trialfor the killings of his parents

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and four siblings in theirAmityville New York home on
October 14th 1975.
The family's house was latersaid to be haunted and served as
the inspiration for theAmityville horror book and
movies.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
All lies.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
All lies.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Somebody made a lot of money off of it.
It was all made up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Yep, all of it.
They admitted it.
On the evening of November 13,1974, ronald Butch DeFeo Jr
entered an Amityville bar andtold people his parents had been
shot inside their home.
Several bar patrons accompaniedDeFeo back to his family's home
at 112 Ocean Avenue, where aman named Joe Yeswit called

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Suffolk County Police to reportthe crime.
When officers arrived, theyfound the bodies of Ronald DeFeo
Sr, age 43, his wife LoisLouise, age 42.
Louise Louise and theirchildren, dawn 18, allison 13,

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mark 11, and John 9.
The victims had been shot deadin their beds.
Ronald DeFeo Jr, 22 years old,initially tried to say the
murders were a mob hit.
However, by the next day heconfessed to committing the
crimes himself.
Now the thing that they neverknew was they were all lying on
their stomachs and shot in theback of the head.

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Yes, do you think he must havetold them to lay like, if you
don't roll over on your stomachand shot in the back of the head
?
Yes, do you think he he must'vetold them to lay like, like, if
you don't roll over on yourstomach, then I'm going to go
kill everybody else?
Cause the whole thing was howdid nobody hear any gunshots?
Why didn't anybody else wake up.
Why were they on their beds?
But I'm sure he came in shockand awe.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Killed the parents first yeah.
Well, killed the parents first.
Yeah, well, that's what you gotto do.
Yeah, yeah, get the adults outof the way.
One aspect of the case thatpuzzled investigators was the
fact that all six victimsappeared to have died in their
sleep without struggle, andneighbors didn't hear any
gunshots, despite the fact thatthe rifle DeFeo used didn't have
a silencer when DeFeo's trialbegan in October 1975.

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His attorney argued for aninsanity defense.
However, that November he wasfound guilty of six counts of
second-degree murder and latersentenced to six consecutive
sentences of 25 years to life inprison.
Defeo, who gave conflictingaccounts of his story over the
years, later claimed that hissister, dawn, and two other
accomplices were involved in themurders.
He died in prison on March 12th2021.

(01:15:43):
I like how he accused hissister who died also.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Last podcast on the left also does a several part
series about this.
If you check that podcast out.
They're really hilarious.
They're hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Yeah, I need to remember, because sometimes on
on socials they want you to namepodcasts that you like and I
always forget to do.
I always just say, mr paul,yeah, but um, another thing, too
, that always strikes me withthis and and other stories is
they're always like how didnobody hear any gunshots?
How many times in your lifehave you been like that's not

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like gunshots?
And then you just ignore it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Well, I mean A.
We came from a rural background, so it was not unusual to hear
gunshots.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
To hear guns right.
And cars backfiring.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Two days ago, Sunday, I was sitting and I was like,
oh, it must be duck season,right, it must be hunting geese
or ducks or something.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
And I live in Fenwick .

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
But you wouldn't think a second thing of it
though.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
I never do.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Right.
So anytime I hear that they'relike I mean people and plus they
were asleep in this one, soyeah, they'd wake up maybe and
be like did I hear something?
What the hell?
But yeah, I feel like I hearthings all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
I all the time, I always think about that, with
screaming too, like you'll hearsomebody, like sometimes when
you're playing around, you'rescreaming like somebody's
chasing you through the house.
We have this set of freakingfoxes that live right behind
where and they scream.
They are, it's awful yes, it'sawful.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
We had one in the last place that we lived and it
it's awful we had one in thelast place that we lived and
screech, screech.
Yeah, awful, awful.
The DeFeo house was sold toGeorge Lutz, who moved in with
his wife and three children inDecember 1975, which is just
crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
I would do it in a New York minute, of course would
.
I would live in a murder housetoday if you gave me one.
Well, they're so cheap, nobodywants that, is true, that is
true.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
The new owners resided in the house for 28 days
before they fled, claiming itwas haunted by the spirits of
the DeFeo family.
Critics accused George Flutz ofconcocting the story to make
money, but he maintained he wastelling the truth.
In 1977, jay Anson published anovel titled the Amityville
Horror.
The book became a bestsellerand inspired a 1979 movie of the

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same name, as well as a 2005remake.
So I think it was the wife whoconfessed that they made it up,
wasn't it?
If I remember correctly, it wasI think it had to do with the
realtor.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Some other people came in to I forget what their
names are.
Yeah, they have like a cultthing, and they made most of the
money off of it and they werefakes.
Yep, I remember that it's ahusband and Right and they were
fakes.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Yep, yep, I remember that.
Now it's a husband and wife.
I can picture their faces.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
I remember that.
Now I'm going to Google itbecause it's like on the tip of
my tongue.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
But yeah that, and then a family bought it after
that and they had no problemswhatsoever.
I can't remember if I saw thatmovie.
I'm sure I did back in the day,all right, so I think this is
my last little fun fact about1975.
It is, and it's another very,very favorite movie of mine.
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, opened in theaters.

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Have you ever seen that movie?

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
I have seen pieces of it.
I haven't seen the whole thing.
It's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
So One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, a film about a
group of patients at a mentalinstitution, opened in theaters,
directed by Mylos Forman andbased on a 1962 novel of the
same name by Kenny Kessie.
The film starred Jack Nicholsonand was co-produced by the
actor Michael Douglas, and wasco-produced by the actor Michael

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Douglas.
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nestwent on to become the first
film in four decades to win allfive of the major Academy Award
categories Best Actor forNicholson, best Actress for
Louise Fletcher, who playedNurse Ratched, best Director,
best Screenplay and Best Picture.
Have you ever seen NurseRatched?

(01:20:03):
I watched the first episode ofit.
Ugh, I love her.
First of all, sarah, whatever,I don't know what- her name is
Sarah something?
Yeah, that's a great show.
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nestmarked Jack Nicholson's first
Oscar win, although the actor,who was born April 22, 1937 in
Neptune, new Jersey, had alreadyreceived four other Academy

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Award nominations by that time.
Nicholson's first nomination inthe Best Supporting Actor
category came for hisperformance as an alcoholic
lawyer in 1969's Easy Rider,which co-starred Dennis Hopper
and Peter Fonda, whichco-starred Dennis Hopper and
Peter Fonda.
He earned his next Oscarnomination for Best Actor for
1970's Five Easy Pieces, whichhe played a drifter in 1973, the

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year I was born.
The last detail Nicholsonearned another Best Actor Oscar
nomination.
His fourth Best Actor Oscarnomination came for his
performance as Detective JakeGiddey's in director Roman
Polanski's Chinatown, 1974.
In One Flew Over the Cuckoo'sNest, nicholson played Randall

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McMurphy, a convict who pretendsto be crazy so he can be sent
to a mental institution andavoid prison.
Work detail once in the asylum,mcmurphy encounters a buried
cast of inmates and clashesmemorably with the authoritative
nurse ratchet.
That movie is so good.
Like I'm a huge psychology, yes, uh, buff, and oh man it it's

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amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
I've seen pieces of it.
I've never sat down and watchedthe whole thing I highly
recommend it I try I think joewould even like it.
I'm sure he, oh he, I know he'swatching, because that's how
I've seen pieces of it where Ijust go to bed, oh, he puts, he
stays up all night and watchesmovies and I go to bed, um, but
yeah, I've not watched the wholething straight through.
I'm sure I.
I don't know, I don't know why,like I have an aversion to it,

(01:22:06):
some movies that I just can't,and I don't know why yeah, and
sometimes it's hard to go backand watch old movies like as
great as they were back then.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
It's the nostalgia and yeah, and that you were
watching it in the time yeah andnow I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
I just thought.
I don't know what my aversionto that.
I have read the book.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
I don't know what my deal is.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
I'm a weirdo.
What can I say?
Hater, hater.
I like to be contrary, and thatcould just be it.
Like I just don't want to watchit because I'm supposed to
watch it.
I've never watched any of theHarry Potters.
I have only seen the three StarWars from our time.
I have not watched the prequel.
I haven't watched any of those.

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What's the other one I haven'twatched?
Oh, the Twilight ones.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Oh yeah, I don't like vampire stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
First of all, no, vampires don't sparkle.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
That's not right.
It's not okay.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Well, that's a lie.
I do like the Lost Boys, butbesides that I don't like any.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Oh, there was a great thread I read the other day
about the Lost Boys and how itties in with Stand by Me, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
I could see that how he becomes the vampire he gets
recruited.
It was a good one.
Stand by Me is one of myfavorites too.
I actually not see that oneeither.
Oh, Jesus Christ, I know it'sbecause I'm supposed to, so I
just don't.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
Well, I haven't seen Forrest Gump, so Well, there you
go.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
That's the movie you're supposed to see.
I did see that one.
I don't hate that one, likeeverybody else does.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
I have a good reason for not watching it.
Oh, it's what was someone todivorce?
Oh, so now it's just kind ofpart of the legend of my divorce
is that I don't watch it.
I get that.
So again, not an aversion tothe movie, I'm just going to be

(01:24:17):
a stickler and not watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Supposedly they're making another one Good for them
, mm-hmm.
Well, that was good.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
1975 wrapped up thank you, happy birthday to my
husband happy birthday 50 huh 50it's an ugly number it is and
he's not excited about it?

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
No, I wasn't.
I wasn't at all.
I think I hid in the house thewhole time you did.
I know you did, I think I justshut all the blinds and closed
the door and turned out all thelights.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
I went out and had a lovely brunch on May 50th and
then had a surprise birthdayparty.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
I was going to say that you had a surprise party.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
And I truly was surprised, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
That was all her daughter.
Yeah, and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Yeah, she crushed it.
That was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
Yeah, she's all right .
Yeah, she's okay.
Well, now that we've gone onfor almost an hour and a half
again, oh Lord, I know we'regoing to have to figure out how
to get these shorter.
I guess that's the problem,because we don't.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
I don't know, we just I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, I think we do good,though, that we get it around
the same time every time, I knowright.
Really with no sort of plan orschedule.
Like I said, if you're here forsome, kind of structure.
You're just in the wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
That's not us, that's not us If we didn't write a
script.
It would just be like a streamof consciousness that just flows
through just the weirdesttimeline.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Yeah, nobody wants to hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
No, so we have to write things down.
Yes, thanks for listening.
You can like share rate.
Review all of the things,please.
You can like share rate reviewall of the things.
You can find us where youlisten to podcasts.
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(01:26:15):
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.
I can't.
I was only one, no, I wasn'teven one.
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