Make America Collage Again

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Two best friends.
We're talking the past, frommistakes to arcades.
We're having a blast.
Teenage dreams, neon screens,it was all rad and no one knew
me Like you know.
It's like whatever.
Together forever, we're neverthe best ever Laughing, sharing
our stories.
Clever, we'll take you back.

(00:25):
It's like whatever.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Welcome to Like Whatever a podcast for.
By and about Gen X.
I'm Nicole and this is my BFF,heather.
Hello, so we have to start withthe most important news of the
century that came out just hoursbefore we recorded this, on
Tuesday.

(00:52):
Travis and Taylor are engaged?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yes, they are.
I feel like they've beenengaged for a while, but I guess
I don't know what I'm talkingabout.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I am so excited I can't stand myself.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
She is, yeah, she has been busting at the seams.
I'm so excited.
I can't stand myself.
She is.
Yeah, she has been busting atthe seams.
I'm so excited.
I guess it's going to be likethe royal wedding.
I guess they better televise it.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I just can't decide what they'll do.
I don't know if they'll havesomething huge and everybody
sees it, or just the two of themrun off and then they have a
party later, or just family, Idon't know.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I don't know how you handle that.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I can't decide what they would do.
I think it's going to come downto whatever Taylor has dreamt
of since she was a little kid.
True, because Travis isdefinitely all about giving her
what she wants, everything shewants.
Yeah.
I mean, that's what he said inthat when she was on his podcast
a few weeks ago, that he wentto her concert, he listened to

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her songs and she said, you know, the way she met him and the
way he pursued her is basicallywhat she's been wanting since
she was 12.
And he was like, I justlistened to the songs and the
words and I was like, okay, Iknow what she wants me to do.
God bless him.
Yeah, it just seemed like suchan odd couple when it first

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started.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
it really did but yeah, everybody was saying, oh,
that's not usually the type ofgirl he goes for well, and
that's not really worked out forhim in the past, has it so
right?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
and same with her she must be artsy fartsy actors and
musicians that I don't thinkany of them were loyal to her,
judging by her music she justneeded somebody who was not
intimidated by her right stardomright and it was fun and
positive and upbeat and not plus, you know as much, as much as

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you got to say, that Kelseyfamily they're a, they're a nice
bunch.
It would be a fun family.
They are a fun family.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
They're very emotional.
It's not like they don't showtheir emotions.
Jason cries like every otherday.
He does.
They show you know it's, youcan tell that they're a good,
good, close family and I thinkthat they can separate life from
showbiz life and I think theycan.
They can do it all so good forthem.
Yeah, yeah, it's prettyexciting I didn't have anything

(03:15):
exciting, except for thesepeople trying to sell this
elevator.
I just showed her on facebook.
These people are trying.
It looks like a transportertube.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
It does like like the ones at the bank, yeah it looks
like.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I don't know if it sucks you up to the same I don't
know but they want thirty threehundred dollars for it.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
So if anybody wants it, and they paid forty thousand
for- it, so it is a good dealand it takes 30 feet a minute,
which we decided took a verylong time yeah, I'm pretty sure
I could go up the steps faster,although my knees been hurting
me a lot this week so I got somecompression socks on today.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
They got skeletons on them.
Yeah, super cute, I know.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
So I'm not gonna be old without being me yeah, yeah,
I did watch a good show onnetflix this week.
I binged um the.
Have you seen?
It's a new series, eightepisodes like 50 minutes long
each, and it has.
I can never remember her nameor say it correctly, but Umda,

(04:17):
umda, she was the crazy girl inOrange is the New Black.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Okay, yeah, I can never remember her name.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
But oh my gosh, she's phenomenal in it and it's
basically a murder mystery thattakes place in the White House.
I mean not, basically that iswhat it is.
It had a.
I thought of Clue a lot when Iwas watching it, but very clever
.
Her character is very, verycool, like I wonder if she's
supposed to be on the spectrumeven because she's very dry,

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serious, obsessed with birds andshe connects everything to
birds.
Same Mm-hmm.
It was very entertaining.
I liked it very much and areally cool cast like Jane
Curtin's in it, al Franken.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
I haven't been watching anything.
I've been playing poker.
Oh, by the way, I can't giveyou a code.
Delaware doesn't have them.
You can't give out codesbecause I couldn't find it on
there.
I was like I know I saw a refera friend thing on there, so I
ended up emailing the um.
Who's?
A what's it and they were likeno, we don't do that in delaware

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.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
And I was like, well, that's stupid delaware has the
dumbest gambling laws so stupid.
I've been on the forefront ofcasinos.
Here's the issue.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
So you can gamble on there in maryland and you can
gamble on there in delaware.
I can spit and hit the marylanddelaware line from where I live
so sometimes it pings off themaryland towers and sometimes it
pings off the delaware.
It depends on where in myapartment I am standing.
The problem is because I'msigned up in the Delaware so it

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comes out of Harrington and notthe Maryland.
I can't go back and forthbetween the two.
I can't just be like well, I'mgoing to, so it'll say like
geolocation error, so I have tomove around in the house to try
and find the sweet spot.
I know First world problems,but I found it on my couch.
I've been playing poker On yourcouch A lot, way more than I

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should, but they have pennygames like a penny tournament.
Come on, last night I was in a$2 tournament and I ended up
winning $3.82.
See there, yeah, almost doubledit.
I was in a $2 tournament and Iended up winning $3.82.
See there, yeah, almost doubledit.
I came in seventh, so excited.
Anyway that's what I've beendoing.
Yeah, poker, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
I went to the Latin Festival this weekend.
Oh yeah.
And the same empanadas peoplewere there that were there the
week before Excellent At theCaribbean Festival weekend.
Oh yeah, and the same empanadaspeople were there that were
there the week before excellentat the caribbean festival.
So yeah, I bought extras.
I have one left in my fridge.
I bought.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
I bought a bunch of bagels from surf bagel the other
day and I have a bunch of myfreezer, yeah nice you're very
exciting this week.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, thank god travis and taylor got engaged.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
I know we'd have nothing to talk about, except
for poker, and nobody wants tohear about that.
Start my own poker podcast.
I shouldn't.
I'm terrible at it.
Yeah, I am too.
I just like playing the problemwith a lot of these tournaments
, especially the penny one.
People go all in all the timeand it's like like, okay, here's

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the thing.
Nobody here is trying to makeany kind of money off of this,
because we paid a penny in andthe most you can win is like 40
bucks or, and it's not even.
I think it's.
The penny one is like ticketsyou win tickets to play more, so
you're not really going to winanything.
So why are you doing that?
Like we're all just here for agood time, right, just to kill
three hours of our day?
Why are you going all Likewe're all just here for a good
time, right, just to kill threehours of our day?
Why are you going all?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
in.
So it's part of the strategy towait out the all-in-ers like
play late until I try.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, that's what I try to do.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, I love to play poker, but I have a lot of tells
.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
You should totally play this poker online.
I'm telling you, I have a lotof tells you should totally play
this poker online.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
And I'm a sucker for a pair.
If you deal me a pair of fours,I'm like I can't fold these.
What if another four comes up?
I am not a sucker for an insidesplit, so or inside straight.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
That's good, I have that going for me.
Okay, you can have whatever,but the chances you got to, no,
it doesn't work that way.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
You have to.
I hate pocket aces.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yes, I know Every single time I have pocket aces.
The theory on pocket aces is togo in heavy and push everybody
out before the flop.
That's the theory on aces,because everybody gets trapped
with aces.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
You know what I get trapped with all the time.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Fucking gets trapped with aces.
Yeah, you know what I gettrapped with all the time
fucking queens.
I'll get trapped with a pair ofqueens bitches.
And I always want to play theseven two because it's the worst
hand in poker.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
So I'm like maybe I can make it work.
My dad and I were talking aboutit and there's one um phil
negroni.
He plays um.
His favorite hand is nine two.
He will play it every time.
It's his favorite hand and healways wins with it.
I don't know how, I don't knowwhy.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I had a friend.
His favorite was King-9 offsuit.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
That was his favorite hand.
I will always play aces andeights because it's a dead man's
hand.
I will always play it, nomatter what.
I will play an ace and an eight.
Suited not suited Doesn'tmatter, I'll play it.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Man, you're going to convince me, and I spend enough
time on Candy Crush.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I don't need to spend any time anywhere else.
I did spend two and a halfhours last night playing, but I
made it to seventh.
I can't sit still for that long.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Not all of them.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
You can play.
They have one it's called Cubed, where it's just three of you
playing and you start with $500and you just like the.
It's quick, it goes up.
The blinds go up like every 30seconds and it's fast.
That sounds stressful.
It is a little bit, but you'reonly playing with two other
people, and and then you, it'sthat game makes.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Maybe doesn't even take 10 minutes have you ever
won one of those?

Speaker 3 (10:22):
uh, yeah, I play the quarter one and I win like 50
cents, 60 cents.
It's also random, so you canwin up to like three.
The most I ever won was 60cents, so I don't know how, but
it comes up with a random amountthat you win.
That's 25 cents.
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That being said, let's fuckaround and find out about Gen X

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magazines.
So this idea started.
I was going to do just like theteen beat kind of magazines,
but there's really not a lot tosay.
They were just magazines fullof pretty faces.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yes, they were.
Tiger beat teen beat.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
But then, as I was looking through that, I started
seeing other magazines that Ireally liked as a kid, so that's
what I'm going to talk about.
All right, liked as a kid, sothat's what I'm going to talk
about, all right?
Um, so I got my info from worth, pointcom, new world,
encyclopediaorg, mentalflosscom,encyclopediacom, edweekorg and

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a little wiki.
Um, yeah, there's not a ton ofstuff on this.
It it was, so I had.
I always resort to wiki when Igo into one of those obscure
things.
Anyway, the teen magazine beganwith 17 in 1944.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I knew it was really old.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, I didn't realize that old though, Editor
and writer Helen Valentinefounded the magazine after
publishing magnate WalterAnnenberg approached her and
asked her to create a newmagazine no big deal.
Valentine agreed to join him inthis new venture only if she

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could mold the magazine into apublication for a specific
demographic teen girls.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
So smart, so smart.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
She probably had this idea forever, but she was a
woman in 1944.
Nobody would listen to her.
However, there was one problemthe concept of a teen girl did
not actually exist inconsumerism.
It's true, they were working.
Yeah, exactly, child labor wasbig.
Fortunately, annenberg approvedher idea and Valentine began an

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endeavor that changed cultureforever.
Valentine enlisted the help andexpertise of Seventeen
marketing director Estelle Ellis, who created the ideal feminine
teen girl.
This prototypical teen girl wasnot only interested in boys.
She was also interested inpolitics, relationships with

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parents, partners and friends,the latest fashion trends,
college health, what's popularin television, movies and music,
and how to be her best self.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yes, I want to know how to be my best self too.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Once this model was constructed, ellis and company
devised what teen girls shouldbuy to keep up with their peers.
Ellis involved advertisingagencies, businesses and major
corporations in creatingproducts and ads that teen girls
couldn't resist, fromlunchboxes to clothes to room
decorations that would helpgirls express themselves.
With 17, ellis and Valentinedemonstrated the significant

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role young women could play inthe consumer culture.
What?
Even though they weren'tallowed to have their own credit
cards or bank accounts, I hadto beg the husband for that.
All right, so this?
Well, they might have hadhusbands at teen.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
I'm sure they did.
I guess it depends on where inthe country you were living
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Who was paying attention.
The table of contents page from17 provides insight on how
Ellis constructed the teen girlArticles.
Sections are titled what youWere and how you Look.
They provided the expectationsteen girls should meet.
Indeed Seventeen's first issuewas released in September 1944

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and opened the floodgates forother publishers to follow suit.
Magazines like Teen Sixteen,tiger Beat, teen Beat, teen Set,
bop, j-14, m Magazine, teenPeople and Teen Vogue, among
others, have gone down as someof the more popular teen
magazines.
In the 1960s and 70s,publishers released teen
magazines for people of color,specifically for black teenagers

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, like Right On, black Beat andWord Up.
I remember all those too.
I don't remember those.
I'll bet there was a lot ofstuff that didn't hold up in
there.
Teen magazines follow adistinct format Sensational
headlines with a lot ofexclamation points.
That's what sells it.
To captivate the reader.

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Collage-style photographs ofbeautiful people, contest-win
items owned by celebrities andthe promise of free posters
inside.
Yes, that's what it was allabout.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
I can tell you what posters I had carefully opening
the staple so that you didn'tdamage the johnny depp's face.
Yes, that's exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was alwaysjohnny depp for me, always
uh-huh, he's actually in here,no doubt.
He was one of the first maleteen heartthrobs.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
I specifically put him in here for you Love him.
Tiger B provides the bestglimpse into this style.
Some headlines include DangerHead David Wants you what Super
Huggable, kissable DonniePortraits.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Boo.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Free Chris Knight, Too innocent to kiss.
I don't remember who ChrisKnight was.
I don't either how to makeDonnie desire you.
Is that Donnie Wahlberg?
Because I probably read thatone, I'm assuming yes, and I'm
thinking Chris Knight might havebeen one of the.
I know there were two Knightsin it?

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, it was Jordan and Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, I was going to say it wasn't Chris.
Maybe he was another brother weforgot about.
Many teen girl magazines havebeen criticized as sexist.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
No.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Which led to the birth of the feminist-centric
teen magazine Sassy.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Which really does not sound feminist-centric.
It does not at all.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Released in March 1988, is perhaps the most
well-known example.
Created to be the antithesis orantithesis, if I want to say it
the correct way, either way Oftraditional teen magazines.
Sassy had an edge, for instance.
Headlines read resisting thewiles of the male sleaze One
beautiful girl and her angst.

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Six reasons you don't want tobe popular.
Heather could have written thatI only need one.
Dress like an artsy chick.
I could have written that onetoo.
And the dirty, scummy truthabout spring break?
Ew.
It was created for young womenwho didn't feel like they could

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relate to the information inSeventeen or Tiger Beat.
Casey Lewis from the Hairpindescribes Sassy best.
Sassy was the Daria ofSeventeen's Quinn.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
That made me laugh so hard.
That's pretty fucking funny.
I don't remember Sassy, thoughI don't know that I really At 17
, I did Tiger Beat.
I did up until middle school,end of middle school, maybe
beginning of high school,because that's when I started

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going goth and they didn't havethe goths, of course, except
Johnny Depp, but he had notbecome my goth hero yet, he
didn't know he was goth yet.
No, he didn't know he was goingto be the premier gothic icon.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
I feel like Sassy was probably very specific to maybe
certain regions.
I was going to say Even girlswho were like oh, that's sexist,
we're still going to read thoseteen magazines.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
And fill out every one of those quizzes.
Yes.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
And we still want to fit in and be popular.
Well, not you, no, I don't.
But at the root of a lot ofteenage girls that's what it is
it's probably parents werebuying sassy for their daughters
because they didn't want themreading that other stuff.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Here's the thing.
Like I was thinking the otherday, did I ever want to be
popular?
I don't think I wanted to bepopular, no.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
I didn't like the popular girls.
They were really mean.
I mean back in our day theyreally were like mean girls.
They were really mean.
I mean back in our day theyreally were like mean girls,
they were really mean.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Well, but the other thing is is we only had 20
people in my class, Right?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
So, like.
I've always just fit in witheverybody and I'm still that way
.
Like I like you for who you are, not what you have or who
you're friends with.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Like I sat at the lunch table by myself, like your
friends with.
Like I sat at the lunch tableby myself, like I just didn't
want to be.
I just didn't want to.
I don't think I wanted, but Idid read all the magazines, um,
and I meant to tell you this theother day.
Well, tell all of you this.
Um, what was I watching?
Oh, my god, I don't rememberwhat it was, but it was a meme

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or it was tiktok or something,and I was like how have I always
keep forgetting that my actualfirst crush, and probably what
is wrong with me, is christianslater.
Fucking love chris and heathers.
I mean seriously, like that'swhat's wrong with me, yeah yeah
let's.
I probably did get to teenmagazines for christian sl and

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all his Heather I mean the blackhair and Heather and he's first
of all.
Heather's is like the greatestmovie ever, not just because
that's my name but you fuckinglove that movie and it's got
Winona in it.
It does, and Christian Slaterand Shannon Doherty I mean come
on, yep, yep, all right.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
It's important to note that not all teen magazines
were wrapped up in celebrityculture.
For example, 17 Magazine,though problematic in terms of
diet culture, is notable fordiscussing important topics like
the AIDS crisis, sexualharassment and divorce and other
controversial subject matter.
Other teen magazines, likeSassy, didn't shy away from

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difficult conversations either.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
I do remember there being like that in there, mm-hmm
.
Although I don't know that Iread the articles, I think
mostly I bought them to makecollages.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
You didn't buy it for the articles.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Which I'm hoping we talk about later collages Well,
you bring them up whenever youwant.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
They're not necessarily in here.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Is that just a teen girl thing?

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Did you make collages ?
Well, I don't know, becauseremember when we did the episode
on Arnold Schwarzenegger calledI forget what it was
Kindergarten Governator.
You can listen to that one froma few weeks ago if you'd like.
He had male bodybuilders allover his walls.
That's true, and that's why hisparents thought he was gay, but

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did he make a?
Collage.
I think men no, I think men hadjust had posters, because there
was the Farrah Fawcett posterand there was Kathy Ireland and
there was Cindy Crawford, butthey were big posters.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
It's the running kindergarten governator and it's
episode 42.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Shameless plug.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
I liked.
You remember when you would buylet us know in the socials or
whatever, who did this.
You buy the poster board andyou get your little glue and you
cut like words and likepictures and like eyes and lips
and like I don't know.
I probably put cigarettes inthere and like all the shit you

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liked and then you just put glueover top of it.
I had one still up until I leftmy house.
I still had one.
Wow yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I know I think back to things and I'm like I'm sure
I had that for a very long time.
But I have moved a lot in mylife, yeah, and I'm sure it's
gotten lost along the way.
I just wonder how many like doy'all remember doing?

Speaker 3 (23:42):
and then you'd like squirt the glue.
You didn't have that ModgePodge nonsense.
You'd just squirt the glue onit and rub all over it.
I'm going to make a collage.
Do they make magazines anymore?

Speaker 2 (23:55):
I'm going to make a collage later.
They do make magazines still.
The most valuable teenmagazines are bound copies of
multiple issues culturallysignificant magazines, posters
published by magazines, firsteditions and special editions,
and autographed issues.
In general, teen magazines areno different than any other
vintage magazine on the market.

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As a result, you can find mostwithin the range of $5 to $25.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
I bet if we looked in this here Eve, we might have
holes in it.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
We can add it to our stand that we're going to take
to oddities and curiosities.
You know people would be downwith that.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Look at my collage from 1987.
There's a swatch on there Incase you wanted to check that
out?

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Swatch your step.
Teen magazines published forblack teenagers hold some of the
highest value.
For example, this elegant Wait,no.
For example, elegant Teen issuefrom 1965, which features the
magazine staff visiting the setof the Munsters, sold for $2,225

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.
Wow.
Additionally, a rare premiereissue of Write On magazine from
October 1971 sold for $1,000.
Issues of Black Beat are alsoworth more than your average
teen magazines.
For example, the issues fromMarch 1991 and July 1991
featuring the band BBD Bell,bibb DeVoe, sold for $280.

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On average, regular black beatissues sell for much lower
prices.
Individual posters that wereonce buried in magazines like
treasures are often sold formore than the price of the
actual magazine.
Autographed issues are morevaluable based on the relevancy
of the celebrity.
Now, do you think they wereactually?

Speaker 3 (25:49):
autographed right, it would have just been mass
produced.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
But you can still get those like I don't know.
Remember there was a time oneBay where everybody was selling
.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
You knew someone very well who was making a fortune
off of legitimate mass-producedheadshots, yeah, yeah.
So I don't understand why theseautographed issues are more
valuable.
It's not a real.
Anyway, the more expensiveissues and magazine posters
autographed by Harry Styles,Christina Aguilera, Justin

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Bieber and Madonna sold for over$150.
I don't know, I don't get it.
Madonna yes.
The rest I don't know.
I don't get it Madonna yes, therest I don't know.
Maha Bieber too.
No, I'm not a ChristinaAguilera fan.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
I like.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Christina Aguilera.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
But like her dirty era.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
I like her old stuff, but my problem with her is she
always sounds like she isstraining.
So hard to sing and it soundsso unnatural.
Vintage issues and posterssigned by john travolta, johnny
depp or david cassidy are muchmore affordable, at about 20 I
would pay 20 for a john.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
I just paid 20 for a muskrat with a hat on, so teen
magazines are pure nostalgia.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
These magazines hold memories.
They remind us of who ourformer celebrity crushes were,
who our friends loved, whatfashion trends were in style and
what music ruled our lives.
They are culturally significantartifacts of a time we all
experienced in our lives themain one that stands out to me
and all of you.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
There was two times a year where I actually paid
attention.
I don't know why, because Ididn't go to either one of these
things but homecoming and promand if you remember, prom had
like a specific edition where itwas nothing but prom dresses
you have always been a suckerfor prom dress I love a fucking

(27:45):
prom dress.
I love them.
Yeah, I don't know where Iwould wear one these days I'm
just you know what?
I'm just gonna go buy some promdresses you should wear them to
your poker tournaments.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
I should wear them just everywhere.
Sit on your couch in your myprogress.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
You might play better .
Damn it, I might.
I'm just gonna start.
That's it.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Prom dresses I'm gonna wear prom dresses to work
well, and then you can walk yourdog in the prom dress.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
I don't know why I don't wear prom dresses more
yeah, you can get them atgoodwill for cheap I just bought
.
I I just have now decided thatI am entering my um blanche era.
Oh yeah, I um I bought.
It's supposedly a swimsuitcover-up, but it's basically not

(28:30):
a.
I do have a moomoo, though um,it's a no buttons, but it's like
chiffonny jacket yeah, it'swhat, um what they wear.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
It's uh the Three's Company thing they do.
Who's the lady from Three'sCompany?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Mrs Rupert, but no, that's not her.
No, she wears a muumuu, Acaftan.
She wears a caftan.
Yeah, that's what I wasthinking.
No, I mean like it's like acardigan, but like short-sleeved
, and it's like silky chiffonand it flows and mine has skulls
all over it, because I found iton the Amazon.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, I've been wearing those things for years,
I know.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
But now I'm wearing them, yeah, and maybe I'll go.
That's it, goodwill, here Icome, you could wear your prom
dress with that over it.
I totally could.
I'm going to start wearing it.
I'm just You're.
I'm just you're going to be socute.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
All right, so we're done with Team Beat.
No more collage talk.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
God damn it.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I'm sorry this is so I'm going to go through a couple
of ones that I liked as a kidand I was a super nerd and loved
Time Magazine.
From the time I had my ownmoney I would buy a subscription
to it every year and I think Iloved a lot of it, that it came
out weekly, so you got it a lotbut and I read the whole thing

(29:48):
like front to back so I don'tremember a lot of it.
But you know, whatever I readit All right.
So Time was co founded in 1923by Britton Haddon and Henry R
Lucci, making it the firstweekly news magazine in the
United States.
The two had previously workedtogether as chairman and

(30:08):
managing editor at the YaleDaily News.
Haddon was a rather carefreefigure who liked to tease Lucci
and saw time as somethingimportant but also fun.
That accounts for its tone,which many still criticize as
too light for serious news, andmore suited to its heavy
coverage of celebrities,including politicians, the

(30:30):
entertainment industry and popculture.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
So because I work at the post office, I see magazines
a lot and definitely Time andPeople are the two that I see
more than really any othermagazine.
There'll be a Vogue every hereand there.
I don't see any Reader's Digestanymore.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Yeah, we're going to talk about Reader's Digest later
on.
I did like Reader's Digest.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
I think everybody did , if you have grandparents at
any point in your life.
I think you'll like theReader's Digest You're sitting
around bored at yourgrandparents' house.
Yeah, and you can look at thelittle cartoons and then read
the jokes.
But yeah, I do.
Hey guys, you know how youcould support your post office?
Get you a subscription.

(31:20):
Not only are you supporting thepost office because it comes
through the mail, but you getsomething to do once a week and
you're supporting a dyingindustry.
So go get a subscription totime.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I do miss newspapers.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
We get newspapers twice a week from the local one
and then we get a couple of themthat come once a week.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I'm talking the Sunday Fat News paper.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, we don't get those, but there's a specific
Republican, yeah, it comesthrough.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I think that's part of what I loved about Time,
though, was it wasn't justserious news, right, there was
all kinds of stuff in there, soI could read the serious stuff
and then reward myself with somesort of pop culture celebrity.
Yeah yeah, time set out to tellthe news through people, and
for many decades the magazinecover was of a single person.

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The first issue of Time waspublished in 1923, featuring on
its cover Joseph G Cannon, theretired Speaker of the United
States House of Representatives.
People was originally inspiredby Time's People page One time.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I was the person of the year.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
I know With the Boys and Girls Club.
No, oh, on Time yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
We all were Remember the one they had.
It was a mirror cover, it waslike the person of the year.
Oh yeah, I don't remember whatyear that was.
Maybe, I don't know, a longtime ago, 2000,.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Maybe, After Time magazine began publishing its
weekly issue in March 1923,lawson was able to increase its
circulation by utilizing USradio and movie theaters around
the world to promote both Timemagazine and the politics of the
US corporate interest whichTime Incorporated served.
According to Fielding, in 1977,as early as 1924, lawson had

(33:15):
brought time into the infantradio business with the
broadcast of a 15-minutesustained quiz show entitled Pop
Question, which survived until1925.
A whole year took the weeklybroadcast of a 10-minute program

(33:37):
series of brief news summariesdrawn from current issues of
Time magazine, which wasoriginally broadcast over 33
stations throughout the UnitedStates.
Larson next arranged for a30-minute radio program entitled
the March of Time, to bebroadcast over the Columbia
Broadcasting System or CBS,beginning on March 6, 1931.
Each week, his March of Timeradio program presented a

(34:00):
dramatization of the week's newsfor its listeners.
As a result of this radioprogram, time magazine was
brought to the attention ofmillions previously unaware of
its existence.
So very smart marketing.
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You know what I just thought ofwhat?
So back to my collages.
That was whiteboarding.
Yeah, like that's what we did,we whiteboarded, I'm going to

(35:02):
bring it back.
I think we should bring it back, guys.
Yeah, I agree, Ladies whoeverwhiteboards subscribe to a
magazine and cut shit out Wordsand stuff.
Let's bring it back.
That was fun.
Let's get rid of wordwhiteboards and do collages and
stuff.
Let's bring it back.
That was fun.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Get rid of word white boards and do collages, yeah
let's bring it back, and thenwith the extra letters you can
send ransom and yes notes yeah,show your kids how to do that.
Kidnapping notes all right, so,um, I wanted to go through the
80s, and each year Time magazinehad a person of the year.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
I was one.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
One time I know I remember so in 1980, it was
Ronald Reagan.
I think we all know who he is.
I do.
It was Lech Walisa, which Iknow is totally wrong because
the L had a slanted line throughit and the E had a not normal

(35:59):
thing.
I've seen over it so I know I'msaying that wrong, but he was
the leader of Poland'sSolidarity Movement, a Nobel
Peace Prize winner, and he beatcommunism and brought about
democracy to Poland.
I did read a lot about him.
I didn't put it in here, but hesounds like a pretty amazing
guy.
He wasn't particularlyintellectual but he was

(36:23):
passionate and he was honest andhe just did his shit.
I don't know.
He sounded kind of neat.
In 1982, the person of the yearwas the computer.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yay, yay, I remember that one year was the computer.
Yay, I remember that one.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
In 1983, it was Yuri Andropov and Ronald Reagan.
Yuri was a Soviet politicianthat opposed invading Poland.
Yeah, so call me, but he tried.
1984 was Peter Uberoth.

(37:04):
That starts with a U-E, soyou'll have to forgive me if I
don't know how to pronounce it,but he was an American sports
businessman involved in theOlympics and Major League
Baseball.
Oh yeah, good luck.
I remember this one too.
1985 was Dang Zai Ping.

(37:25):
Sounds good.
Okay, I'm sure there are peoplethere like listening that are
like this is how you say it, youmoron.
But I've never claimed to knowhow to say things.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
So fuck off.
Yeah, yeah, if you're here tolisten to us say things properly
, you're in the wrong spot.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Or go give us five stars, whichever.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Then go somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
So Deng was the most powerful figure in the People's
Republic of China from the late1970s until his death in 1997.
I think he had kidney failure.
He abandoned many orthodoxcommunist doctrines and
attempted to incorporateelements of the free enterprise
system and other reforms intoChinese economy.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
I remember this one 1986, corazon Aquino Aquino.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Corazon Aquino Aquino Okay, I only took like seven
years of Spanish.
Corazon Aquino was the firstfemale president of the
Philippines, serving from 1986to 1992, and is known for her
pivotal role in restoringdemocracy after the dictatorship
of Ferdinand Marcos.
1987 was somebody you'veprobably heard of, mikhail

(38:45):
Gorbachev.
Never heard of him.
1988's person of the year wasthe endangered Earth Never heard
of it.
Yeah, look how far we've come.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
We've just made it worse.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
So very far, and in 1989 time did a man of the
decade, which again mikhailgorbachev.
That's because he's tearingdown the wall still a communist,
though, so that was time.
So the next one, another one Iloved, but I couldn't always

(39:16):
afford this one, this one wasexpensive.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Rolling Stone, yeah.
I think everybody loved RollingStone yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
There were so many music magazines back then that I
there was like NME, I think.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
I got one that was an alternative, and I can't
remember what it was calledright now.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
I probably saw it today and I meant to put those
in here and I missed.
I think I forgot.
Maybe it'll be later, but Idon't think so.
All right, uh, the firstmagazine was released, uh, in
1967 and featured john lennon onthe cover, and then one of the
most um controversial covers wasalso him wrapped naked around

(39:56):
Yoko.
Remember that, and then it waspublished every two weeks.
It is known for provocativephotography and its cover photos
featuring musicians,politicians, athletes and actors
.
Rolling Stone was known for itsmusical coverage and for
Thompson's political reporting.
Rolling Stone was known for itsmusical coverage and for
Thompson's political reporting,and in 1985, they hired an

(40:18):
advertising agency to refocusits image under the series
Perception slash Reality,comparing 60s symbols to those
of the 80s, which led to anincrease in advertising revenue
and pages.
It also shifted to more of anentertainment magazine in the
1980s.

(40:39):
It still had music as the maintopic, but began to increase its
coverage of celebrities, filmsand pop culture.
It also began releasing itsannual Hot Issue.
In the 1990s, the magazinechanged its format to appeal to
a younger readership interestedin youth-oriented television,
film actors and popular music.
All right, so next, this was amagazine that I personally

(41:01):
didn't read.
My stepbrother did, but Icertainly remember it.
Mad Magazine Thanks to satirelike the Simpsons and the Daily
Show.
It's hard to imagine a timewhen irreverent humor wasn't
everywhere, but the 1950s weremuch different.
They were Anti-establishment.
Humor wasn't part of themainstream.

(41:22):
No, not until Mad Magazinearrived to poke holes in
everything from politics tomovies to advertising.
And even if you never picked upMad, you probably know Alfred E
Newman, I do.
It's moronic mascot.
Picked up mad.
You probably know alfred enewman, it's moronic mascot.
Today, comic books are thesource material for movies that
gross billions of dollars, butin the 1950s adults generally

(41:44):
perceive them as hot dumpstertrash that would rot kids brains
.
Some people even took toburning them isn't it funny?

Speaker 3 (41:52):
it's always something .
The back of it, didn't it foldup into something?
The back cover of mad magazineprobably I think if you folded
it it was like somethingdifferent.
Probably I didn't read.
I maybe had a couple of them,but it wasn't yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
It was too boyish for me.
Yeah, um, how did comics getsuch a bad rep?
While characters like Supermanand Batman were viewed with
suspicion, adults were reallyfixated on crime and horror
comics like the ones publishedby EC Comics.
Founded by Maxwell Gaines in1944 and later run by his son,

(42:29):
william Gaines, ec was thepublisher behind grisly titles
like Tales from the Crypt andthe Vault of Horror.
Sounds like your kind of comicbooks.
The publisher behind grislytitles like tales from the crypt
and the vault of horror soundslike you're kind of had a comic
books um beheadings and othergore made them a little bit like
the slasher movies of their day.
But gaines had one employee whothought comics could do better.
His name was harvey kurtzmanand he was a very talented

(42:52):
writer and artist who hadfinished military service and
was looking to become aprofessional illustrator.
After a series of odd jobs,kurtzman landed at EC comics,
where his approach to popularwar titles was more thoughtful
than most of the stories beingpublished at the time.
With the Korean war raging andthe experiences of his many fans

(43:12):
in the military to draw from,kurtzman told stories that
examined the human price of war,while Kurtzman examined serious
topics, he wasn't that seriousa guy.
He had spent several yearsillustrating humor comics,
including a stint working forMarvel mastermind Stan Lee.

(43:32):
I've heard of him.
I love Stan Lee.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
I know.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
And as much as he loved his combat stories, ec
Comics wasn't exactly known fortheir deep pockets.
Kurtzman wanted an opportunityto be funny and to make more
money doing it, don't we all?
Yeah, the historical recordgets a little murky when it
comes to who exactly came upwith the idea for MED.
Kurtzman insisted a humor comicwas his idea.

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William Gaines said it was his.
The two never even agreed onwho named it.
Mad Kurtzman said he came upwith it.
Gaines said that he and othereditors had referred to EC
Comics as EC's Mad Mags fortheir bomb-tastic approach and
that Kurtzman had merely takenthe phrase and shortened it.

(44:20):
What we do know is thatKurtzman wanted to do something
new at the time a comic bookthat made fun of other comic
books.
Each issue would have a seriesof stories poking fun at popular
genres like horror, westernsand superhero titles, with
Kurtzman using many of the sameartists, including Jack Davis
and Wallace Wood, that EC usedfor their conventional titles.

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It was something different, andin the comics market of 1952,
different was important.
Roughly 3,250 comics werepublished that year, with over
60 different titles hitting thenewsstands every week.
Kids, who made up most of thecomic book readership, had lots
of choices and there was notelling whether a humor comic
would succeed.
The first issue of Mad wasactually titled Tales Calculated

(45:08):
to Drive you, mad and retailedfor $0.10.
Gaines printed 400,000 copiesfor its October-November 1952
launch and waited to get wordfrom distributors and retailers
on whether it was a hit.
And it wasn't.
It sold pretty poorly, actually.
All of that competition hadsqueezed Madd out of the picture

(45:28):
.
Gaines was dismayed to see thatissues two and three were also
met with a lukewarm reception.
Kutzman decided that if theywere going to parody comics,
they might as well set theirsights on the biggest and most
indestructible target possibleSuperman.
A satire titled Super Duper manran in the fourth issue and was

(45:49):
significant for two reasons.
Mocking DC's hero createdstrong word of mouth among
readers, and it also led to DC,then known as National Comics
Publications, sending a stronglyworded legal letter demanding
Mad stop mocking their mostpopular character.
Did Mad comply?
It did not.
Did Mad get a lot of legalletters from that point forward?

Speaker 3 (46:13):
It did.
I do remember that.
I do remember that that's whatpart of it was.
Is that they were?
They would get cease and desistletters all the time that they
really went out of their way, Iremember that too.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
All because they called him super duper man get
over yourself all right, we'respending too much time together,
I know.
Um, with momentum generated bysuper duper man, the circulation
of mad soared to 750 000 copiesper issue.
More parodies followed, likestarchy, a takeoff of archie

(46:46):
which saw the riverdale gangacting more like delinquents
than innocent teenagers.
Under kurtzman's watch, mad wasalso leaning into more
subversive humor.
One issue had a cover printedto look like a classic
composition book, whichpersuaded kids to try and get
away with reading it in school.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Oh smart.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
I do remember it being mischievous, yes, but I
don't remember ever reading it,but I don't remember ever
reading it.
The success of the comic cameat a good time for EC, since
they were about to face a verypublic scolding for pretty much
everything else they published.
In 1954, congressional hearingswere held on the potential
dangers of comic books andWilliam Gaines was called in to

(47:32):
testify.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Were you a communist if you read the comic books.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Well, they do both start with C-O-M.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Yes, I think Super Duper man was a communist.
He's a commie bastard.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah, anti-american.
Yeah, son of a bitch, it didn'tgo well Also an illegal alien.
Lock him up, yep, up, yep, yep,yep, uh.
So when william gains went totestify, it didn't go well.
He was confronted with an eccover featuring a decapitation.

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Gains declared it appropriatefor a horror comic, which is not
what a bunch of very sternsenators wanted to hear.
Pretty soon, the comicsindustry was being forced to
govern itself with the ComicsCode Authority, a panel that
monitored comics for good tasteand made sure titles avoided
controversial topics like horrorand gore, for example.

(48:31):
All the good stuff.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
I know why is it so controversial Horror and gore is
the best.
For example, all the good stuff.
I know why is it socontroversial Horror and gore is
the best.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
One of the biggest mysteries behind Matt actually
started more than 50 yearsbefore the first issue was
printed.
That's around the time anillustration of a gap-toothed
imbecile began circulating inadvertising material.
He was even used in a politicalcampaign against Franklin
Roosevelt.
Oh, snap In your face.
Around the time, gaines and ECwere preparing to issue a series

(49:04):
of mad trade paperbackcollections.
Kurtzman was in the offices ofBallantine Books when he saw
this strange figure on abulletin board with the caption
me worry.
Kurtzman stole the name AlfredNewman from a radio show hosted
by Henry Morgan, but it wasoriginally just used as a sort

(49:27):
of generic stand-in name aroundEC, not a label for any
particular character, wasn'tHenry Morgan in MASH?

Speaker 3 (49:38):
I want to know.
Okay, I know who you're talkingabout.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Okay, I just made that up.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
No, it's close to that I can't remember I'll.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Google it Okay.
A story in Crime Illustrated,for instance, has a story
attributed to Newman.
According to Kurtzman, it wasonly when fans began applying

(50:12):
the name Alfred E Newman to thedim-witted character that Mad
editors followed suit.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Artist Norman Mingo perfected Newman's dull
expression and illustrated manycovers for Mad.
Did you find it, harry Morgan?
No, harry Morgan yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was Colonel Potter.
Okay, alfred E Newman became sopopular that a reader in New
Zealand once set sent a letterto the publisher's offices in
New York with no address on it.
Instead, the correspondent haddrawn Newman on the envelope.
It made it to its destination.
You, post office people areamazing.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
I'm going to tell you so.
When I was a kid there was likeseven people that lived in the
town where I grew up, and thelady Janet was our mail lead.
She drove a red Jeep, she kneweverybody.
So we lived, we moved around alot.

(50:58):
After we got out of the van, wemoved around a lot in different
people's houses, and all in thesame street, in the same town.
We just moved around a lot,anyway.
So mail would come to mygrandmother's house, the other
house that they had two condos,they had two beach houses, and
then it would go to the housethat we lived in and then it

(51:20):
would go to the restaurant andthen when we moved, it would go
to our new house.
So we were still getting mailat all of those locations and
Janet brought all of our mail toone spot.
And now I'm so sorry, janet, Ithink Janet died, but but she
knew everything.
You could just write Libby's onthere and she would know where

(51:41):
to go.
I mean, obviously, but we'repretty good about it.
I have this one lady that'smoved buildings.
She keeps moving buildings andshe never puts a forward in, but
I know where she's going.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
That's a stalker in you Doing its work Alright.
Even though authorship of thecharacter was never discovered,
it wasn't long before someonetried to claim Newman as their
own.
A woman named Helen Pratt Stuffsued EC, claiming that her late
husband, harry Spencer Stuff,had copyrighted the character

(52:15):
back in 1914.
As Mad geared up for thelawsuit, they began researching
the history of the character andfound widespread use of the
face.
What's more, harry SpencerStuff was, in the words of the
court, most derelict inpreventing others from
infringing his copyright, whichdidn't help his widow's argument

(52:36):
.
She lost the lawsuit on appeal.
In fact, newman's likeness maydate back to 1894, when the Los
Angeles Herald ran anannouncement for a play called
the New Boy.
His depiction may have beeninspired by an actor who
appeared in the show.
Huh, poor guy if that's what helooked like.
I know right, but it's so funnyLike doing this research, it

(53:00):
just cracks me up coming acrossthese things Like humans never
change.
No, the clothing change, thehairstyles change, the decor
changes.
We're all suing for dumb shit.
We're all fighting over who didwhat.
I've had it with humanity, metoo, how popular did Newman get?

(53:23):
In 1959, fred Astaire starred ina variety television special
titled Another Evening with FredAstaire, not another one.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
That's too many.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
You know they're sick of it if they're like another
evening In it.
Astaire performs a danceroutine that's every bit as
compelling as any other FredAstaire routine, except he
happens to be wearing an AlfredE Newman mask the entire time.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Sounds like he was drunk to me.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
I'm gonna wear that on stage.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
It's just another evening with me.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Even I'm bored with me.
I need to change this up alittle bit.
All right, here's a biggie.
This was so essential.
I'm pretty sure that everysingle house in the country had
it.
You had to.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
It still exists and I still get it.
This is the one I was.
Do you get them in the mail?
I don't, but they're really bignow.
They're like magazine size now.
They're not small like theyused to be, but we still get
them.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
All right, the TV guide man, I miss looking up in
the TV guide like I feel bad forkids that don't research papers
and encyclopedias because whenyou got the tv guide you could
see what the week's episode ofwhatever show was gonna give you
a little some especially whenit was the holidays, yeah, and

(54:45):
you could look and see when,like charlie brown christmas was
gonna be on.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
No, no, yes, no.
I would like it when you couldread like what's going on on the
sitcom.
That's coming out like what'shappening on rosanna they have a
little synopsis.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right I
also read soap opera digest youcould also find out if some
other dumb shit was going to beon when your TV show was
supposed to be on.
Like the State of the Union,Ahead of time instead of turning
on the channel at 8 o'clock andbeing like what the fuck is
this?
I remember that Nobody careswhat the president has to say.

(55:21):
Shut the fuck up.
In 1953, when television wasstill a brand new and growing
phenomenon on the American scene, the president of
Philadelphia's TrianglePublishing, Walter H Annenberg,
conceived the idea of a nationaltelevision magazine.
Inspired by the widecirculation of a local magazine

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called TV Digest, Annenbergenvisioned one central
nationwide magazine withseparate editions containing the
different local televisionlistings.
That's quite impressive.
Like you, out of one officeknew what all of the stations in
all of the regions around thewhole country I feel like maybe

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that is someone on the spectrumyes, that sounds right sounds
like something somebody on thespectrum would do.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Yeah, for sure, as being someone on the spectrum.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Annenberg moved quickly, keeping the convenient
digest size and adding glossycolor photographs and articles.
On April 3rd 1953, tv Guide wasborn and remains the premier
listing for television fanaticsin the late 20th century.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Yeah, that's the 19th yeah but, we're in the 21st
century.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah, I know, but was it still in the 90s?

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Yeah, I still deliver it now.
Oh true, okay, we're in the21st century.
I had three channels in the21st century.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
I had three channels in the 90s and an antenna, so I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
I did have cable, yeah you were fancy.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
My dad had cable.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
So when I went there every other weekend I got to
watch cable.
There's literally nothing elseto do here in the wintertime.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Yeah true, beginning what was to be a tradition of
exclusive reportage ontelevision and its surrounding
issues.
The cover of the first issueshowed one of the first photos
of comedy queen Lucille Ball'snew baby.
That's quite a what's it calledwhen they do that on the
internet.
Hard launch, there we go.

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Hard launch, there we go.
The magazine was issued in 10editions, each geared to a
different locality, and it soldmore than one and a half million
copies.
The idea had proved to be agood one, and TV Guide went on
to become the best-sellingweekly in the United States,

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with a circulation of more than13 million readers.
13 million a week, that'spretty impressive.
Yeah, I guess every housedidn't have it, though.
The 10 editions grew to 119regional editions, and TV Guide
became the name most oftenassociated with not only
television program listings butalso with television journalism.

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Though perhaps not the mostglorious aspect of the
television industry, tv Guide iscertainly one of the most
familiar.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
I mean, I still call the guide on the TV the TV Guide
, yeah, when I look at stuff,yeah, which I don't usually
anymore.
But up until a couple years agoI got rid of cable.
Yeah, I called it the TV the.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
TV guide in your hand was so much better than that
stupid manual.
No, I know, but I'm just sayingI would still call that the TV.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
I would be like pull the TV guide up.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Just like there's still Mac machines where we get
our money from, there are stillMac machines.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
You know that's a Philadelphia thing.
Yeah, that's just here.
Other places didn't have Macmachines.
I didn't know that until Istarted looking at all these Gen
X pages and stuff.
Yeah, I didn't know that was aregional thing.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
I guess I didn't know that either.
The main office of TV Guide isstill in Radnor, pennsylvania,
but the staff of over 1,300 isscattered in more than 20
bureaus around the country.
Because TV Guide's competitionincludes the free television
sections of local newspapers,the weekly had to offer viewers
something special not availablein the local listings.
Because of this, the editorialstaff of TV Guide has always

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employed a two-pronged approachthe listings and the articles.
Just like Playboy.
Yeah, the photos and thearticles.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
I just am there for the articles.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
That's.
It Isn't that what they all say?
To maximize the value of itsprogram listings, tv Guide
writers are assigned to coverindividual television shows
Rather than using studio pressreleases.
These writers screened programsand even read scripts
themselves to ensure that theirdescriptions of the shows are
accurate.
The National FeaturesDepartment of the Journal moved

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to New York City in 1991 to beeven closer to the television
industry there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
That has to be the greatest job ever that you got
to see TV shows before everybodyelse did.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Yeah, and then just write what they were about,
because like the 90s.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
You're talking ER.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Right, and you're only writing these tiny little
things about it.
It's not like you have to write.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
I feel like the 90s was, like some of the best time
for TV.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
I feel like now it's just not.
I just feel like the 90s werelike.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
It's terrible.
My friend was watching AmericanNinja Warrior last night.
Yeah, I know, and I'm not atall interested in the show, Like
it doesn't appeal to me.
But the guy commentating isjust screaming the whole time.
I'm like why is he screaming?
He's so loud.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
I just think, like the whole time I'm like why is
he screaming?
He's so loud.
I just think, like the TVprogramming, like ER and Chicago
Hope, and I mean I just feellike you had some of the best TV
shows, although I'm drawingBuffy and just all the other
ones.
Yeah, my So-Called Life, oh GodI.

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My So-Called Life.
Oh God, I love my So-Called.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Life, oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Jordan Catalano Again not a good person to have a
crush on, especially not now.
Now he's got his own cult.
Did you know that, that he isthe leader of a cult?

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
I did know that Allegedly.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
I did not know that.
Allegedly.
I did not know that.
Yes Him and his brother.
Yeah, yikes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Don't join a cult, kids.
Don't join a cult, it's bad.
Tv Guide's other approach tocreating public demand for its
product has been its articles.
The page is not filled withprogram listings contain
photographs of stars, reviews ofweekly programs and television
movies and articles.
Can I just say but yes, realquick.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
My favorite, one of my favorite podcasts, my
favorite murder.
They their thing is and theyhad t-shirts and everything that
says you're in a cult.
Call your dad or call your dad,you're in a cult, yeah that's
amazing, yeah don't join a cultyeah don't.
Yeah, that's amazing.
Yeah, don't join a cult.
Yeah don't, although some ofyou.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Nobody that listens to this is in the cult.
No, and cults just piss me off.
It's such a blatant abuse ofinsecurity, and especially on
girls.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
It just pisses me off it's just men who want to have
sex with a lot of women, yeahthere is um on the my favorite
let's just plug my favoritemurder on on the mfn network.
They have a.
They have a show that they haverecently just added.
That is, two girls that got outof cults one is the two by twos
and the other one is from themoonies and um, they do a whole.

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They have a whole podcast on onjust cults.
It's just crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Yeah, it really is, and it's so cool to hear two
girls that were actually incults discuss yeah, can you
imagine like I've stepped awayfrom a lot of things where I'm
like, wow, what was I thinking?
But can you imagine gettingaway from that and being like
wow yeah, here's the other thingthat made that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
This is just so stream of consciousness right
now, because it's been a day umearlier today, because I did
want to talk about this up topand I forgot.
But um, so I was thinking aboutmy obsession with serial
killers because I was listeningto dateline.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Oh, ted bundy was an answer on Jeopardy last night.
I was very excited.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Anyway, I forget what it was.
Oh, it was the guy that killedthose college students in Idaho
it was the dateline on that.
They were talking about how itfeels to be his family, because
apparently some members of hisfamily thought maybe he did do
it and when he was at theirhouse for Christmas went to his

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car and searched his car.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Yeah, yeah.
So anyway they I would not takethat chance.
They no, I don't want to know,I'm afraid you'd catch me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
They- had a woman on there and I think this is a
fucking amazing thing and I needto start looking for her.
She is the daughter of DennisRader, who is the BTK killer the
buy and torture kill, and hewas decades, decades and to me

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like how insane is that?
Decades?
And to me like how insane isthat that you're his.
Like I know, ted bundy'sdaughter changed her name and,
like erased it all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Was she his biological daughter?
Yes, he has a biologicaldaughter I was thinking his wife
had kids when he married her Ithink he has one biological kid.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Okay, I'm pretty sure it's a daughter.
And then then I know John WayneGacy's kids erased that whole
thing.
But this Dennis Rader'sdaughter she runs an advocacy
for.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
I feel like I have seen something on her.
I used to watch a lot of IDTVand they're very random with
their stuff and I feel like itmight have been on there.
It's just like how?

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Because she said he was my best friend.
Like she just cannot.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Well, it sounds like a lot of them are.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
And that's great guys , like everybody talks about,
like.
I think that, in particular, iswhat my fascination with these
people are, because they liveliterally two different lives.
Right, just completely, just,completely like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
And they're very good at both of them.
Yes, like their one life, theyare perfect.
They great husband, greatfather, great community person,
great in the church the guyyou'd call up if you needed some
help with something like all ofthat.
They're also extremely good at.
Finding torturing, killingpeople for decades.

(01:05:55):
He did it for like 40 yearsI've decided after all these
murder shows, it is not hard.
It all comes down to what yousaid Don't tell anybody.
Don't tell anybody and serialkillers don't tell anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
That's how they get away with it.
Yeah, they don't tell anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Anyway, I digress Quick, easy, random.
Don't ever kill somebody inyour own town.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
No, can't be anybody, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Nobody, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Random killings are much harder to solve.
Yeah, because there's no motive.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
No, but you make a lot of people's life hell when
they're trying to figure out whodid have the motive to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
And a lot of husbands are probably going to jail for
it.
No doubt they probably didsomething else wrong.
They deserve this dateline Iwant I'm.
So I sit at my my.
They're called a case.
I sit at my case all morningand I listen to now, I'm
listening to datelines all thetime.
The one dateline, okay.
First of all, she came on, she,she, her husband, was killed,
shot to death I think, and shewas running errands all morning
and then she came home and foundhim shot to death, dead, right.

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So that's always the excuse.
It gets it just gets so muchworse.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
She called him.
Women are terrible murderers.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
This one was particularly bad, horribly bad.
The first five minutes I waslike this bitch killed her
husband Like who doesn't see,and it was an hour and a half.
So it's like how are we goingon for an hour and a half long?
I already see.
She called her husband and lefta message while she was out
running.
Um, we're supposed to I knowwe're supposed to have lunch
today at whatever time, and Iwas thinking we could go to this

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restaurant and it's reallyweird that you're not answering
your phone, because you alwaysanswer your phone click and then
it gets worse.
She calls again while she's atthe restaurant and she probably
thought she was so clever andsays it's really weird that
you're not picking up and it'sreally weird that you're not
here, because you're never latefor anything and I was like so

(01:07:45):
you must be dead.
Yeah, like are you.
Just no one talks to theirsignificant other that way.
I don't care how much you loveand care about each other,
you're going to be like yo,motherfucker, where are you?
I'm sitting in this restaurantby myself.
What the hell are you doing?
What's taking?

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
you so long.
If you even call, you shoot hima text and you're like what the
fuck, bro Yo?
Yeah, I'm here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Where are?
You're never and I'm like youjust totally gave yourself okay,
women are terrible at it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Well, except for, like, the really crazy serial
killer ones, there have beensome really good women serial
killers.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
But all right anyway, and now there's no more serial
killers.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Back to the TV guide.
So sorry, let's see where was I.
Uh, let's see where was I.
I'm just going to start hereand you have to cut it out, all
right, tv guides other approachto creating public demand for
its product has been itsarticles.
The pages not filled withprogram listings contain
photographs of stars, reviews ofweekly programs and television

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movies and articles.
Some articles are thepredictable fluffy pieces
highlighting the off-cameraantics of sitcom casts or
lightweight interviews withcurrent popular stars.
Light though they may be, thesearticles are often exactly what
the television viewer wants tosee Alternate views of favorite

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shows and stars and the critics'opinions of the shows they
watch.
Favorite shows and stars andthe critics' opinions of the
shows they watch.
But TV Guide takes itselfseriously as a television
magazine as well.
In the sentiments of theeditorial staff, tv Guide's
remarkable success stems fromits ability to present not only
broad, objective reporting aboutwhat is on television, but also

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in-depth provocative coverageabout the TV industry itself and
the effect television has onsociety.
Yeah, all right.
So that was the TV Guide.
So here's another one that Iwas jealous, that my friends had
and I never had.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
I never had it either , but it was always at the
doctor's office.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Yeah, but it was always screwed up.
Everybody had already done allthe stuff, that's true.
So Highlights Magazine whichI'm surprised I didn't have this
one because I was a super nerdykid.
But anyway, the earliest issueshad one of the magazine's
signature features the hiddenpuzzle.
Hidden pictures puzzle AlthoughI've never been a fan of those.
Trying to find what's differentabout the two pictures.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Oh yeah, I hate, those.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Yeah, not my thing.
There's too much going on there.
I don't know what the fuck I'mlooking for.
Within two years, the mostfamous characters arrived,
Goofus and Gallant, which Idon't remember.
Them either.
I don't either, which showsthat I did not read it that
often.
The young boys who consistentlydo the wrong thing and the
right thing respectively.

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For some reason, the characterssported elves ears at first.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Well, their names were Goofus and Gallant.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
I mean you've got to have elves ears if your name's
Goofus.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
More of a dunce hat kind of name.
I was just thinking like adunce hat and donkey ears.
Other features followed anddoor-to-door sales quickly grew
in circulation, but businesstroubles within about four years
almost led to the shutdown ofthe magazine.
Then the Myers' eldest son,also named Gary, like his father

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, hit upon an idea thathighlights back, to put
highlights back in the black,sell subscriptions to doctors
and dentists.
There you go when generationswould be exposed to the magazine
in the waiting room.
I didn't put this in here, butGary Jr died in a plane crash.
Oh yeah, downer, rip After yourgenius idea.
Even RIP After your genius idea.

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Even Highlights offers apublication that is devoid of
almost anything that could beconsidered controversial or edgy
.
Its pages each month are fullof bright, colorful articles,
puzzles, poems, young people'sletters and other features.
As soon as I saw poems, I waslike you know, somebody got
offended by something.
There's no way.
The magazine also steers clearpolitics, though.

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One editor says that some youngreaders have written in to ask
when the magazine's pages mightreflect their same-sex parents.
According to Monica Kael,director of AFAs1millionmomscom,
Can I boo them yeah, boo.
Highlights editor ChristineCawley said when we do show

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families in the magazines, wemake it a point to include
diversity.
We strive to be diverse inevery way.
In a December alert to 1million moms, online subscribers
Cole urged moms to subscribersBoo Cole urged moms to contact
the magazine.
It is not a magazine's job tointroduce social issues to

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children.
She said that's the parent'srole.
Oh my God.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Except you won't do it In her most caring voice.
I would like to speak to themanager of the magazine.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
You're not teaching diversity, you silly cunt.
You are teaching your kids thatwhite rules, sit down and just
man and a woman in a marriage.
Don't let your kid read it ifyou're, even if your Christian
husband does sleep around on you.
With men the way it's supposedto be, whatever?

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
I knew you'd enjoy that I I don't tolerate the one
million moms.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Very well, yeah, all right, I think this is my last
one.
Yes, one of the all-time bestmagazines ever agreed.
So amazing that, even as asmall child, I thoroughly
enjoyed this magazine and readit multiple times.
Yes, the same issue.
Yes, reader's Digest.
Yes, man, I just love.

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I think I loved Reader's Digestso much because now, as a 52
year old, I'm realizing I thinkI have a reading disability that
just went undiagnosed my wholeentire life.
And but I could focus on theirshort little articles and I
could read their little comicthings and get it, because I
didn't forget everything else Iread before I got to the
punchline, like I think that'swhy I really loved it so much.

(01:14:02):
I'm the same way on theinternet, social media.
If I see an article that looksinteresting, I click on it and
it's more than a three secondread.
I'm like I'm done.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Someone read this to me Exactly or I just won't know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
I thought you should get TikTok.
I know I don't like watchingvideos either.
Well then, I don't want to tellyou.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
I know there's so much Taylor Swift on there,
though.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
There's so much Taylor Swift everywhere.
I love it.
I can't wait till October, somy album will come.
I ordered it right away, I'mjust waiting, alright.
In 1920, dewitt Wallace marriedLillibel Wallace, lillibel if
that isn't an old timey namethat's a 20s name if I ever did

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hear one.
He married her in Pleasantville,new York.
Shortly thereafter the twowould launch reader's digest in
the basement below a greenwichvillage speakeasy so romantic,
uh.
The idea of reader's digest wasto gather a sampling of
favorite articles on manysubjects from various monthly
magazines, sometimes condensingand rewriting them, and to

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combine them into one magazine.
Since its inception, reader'sDigest has maintained a
conservative and anti-communistperspective on political and
social issues.
The Wallaces initially hopedthe journal could provide $5,000
of net income.
Wallace's assessment of whatthe potential mass market

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audience wanted to read led torapid growth.
By 1929, the magazine had290,000 subscribers and had a
gross income of $900,000 a year.
Wow, that is a lot of money.
A lot of money back then.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
That's a lot of money .
Now, yeah, for real.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
The first international edition was
published in the United Kingdomin 1938.
By the 40th anniversary ofReader's Digest.
It had 40 internationaleditions in 13 languages and
Braille and at one point it wasthe largest circulating journal
in China, mexico, spain, sweden,peru and other countries, with
a total internationalcirculation of 23 million.

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The magazine's format forseveral decades consisted of 30
articles per issue, one per day,along with an it Pays to
Increase your Word Power,vocabulary quiz, a page of
amusing anecdotes and personalglimpses, two features of funny

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stories entitled Humor inUniform, which I remember that
one.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Yes, I remember that one too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Yeah that was my favorite, and Life in these
United States, which I alsoremember, yes, and a lengthier
article at the end which Iprobably didn't read, usually
condensed from a published book.
Other regular features were mymost unforgettable character,
the drama in real life survivalstories.
I remember those too, and morerecently that's outrageous these

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were all listed in the tablecontents.
On the front cover, Eacharticle was prefaced by a small,
simple line drawing.
I remember that too.
In more recent times, theformat evolved into flashy,
colorful, eye-catching graphics,boo and many short bits of data
interspersed with full articles.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
I remember the Reader's Digest.
I think we all.
Like I said before, if you hadgrandparents, I think you just,
I think we all, and I don'tremember that I know we, I saw
them.
I think you just, I think weall and I don't remember that I
know we, I saw them.
I probably still see them everyday Not every day, but once a
month and I just not.
I'm not remembering them rightnow.
But yeah, I love the Reader'sDigest.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
I just loved magazines.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Yeah, I'm telling you , we really need to bring
magazines back.
I think that we should.
And make collages.
Yeah, make collages, greatagain.
That's our new saying.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Yeah, I mean just getting a new magazine.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
Make magazines great again, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
And even, like in the 90s, they all had perfume
samples, yes, and you could usethose for like a.
They all had perfume samples,yes, and you could use those for
like a couple days to smelllike that perfume Obsession.
I loved Obsession, it was myfavorite.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
That magazine stunk the Ulta catalog stinks too, it
comes with perfume.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Oh, do they.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
I had them today and they stunk up the whole truck.
Yeah, but yeah, I mean today,and they stunk up the whole
truck.
Yeah, but yeah, I mean 70 andall the teen magazines.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
That's where you learned what kind of food you
should eat.
Yeah, that was probably notgood.
You read like celebrityarticles where they actually
like talk to the celebrity.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Yeah, and you got to learn what Johnny Depp likes to
do at home.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
What he wears when he's around the house His
jammies, or doesn't wear.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
I think 17 was probably the one I looked at the
most and bought the most.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
I think I would agree with that.
Cosmo and Vogue was just soover my head.
Yeah, I would never be able toafford anything in that magazine
.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
Well, 17 was kind of just like the PG version of
Cosmo, I feel like.
I feel like it was more.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Yeah, Cosmo was fun as a teen, though, too, because
you got to read about like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Dirty stuff.
It was dirty, yeah, I just Idon't know 17.
Like I said, the fashion in 17.
I just like looking at thepictures.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
It did feel more relatable, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
I don't think I ever wore any of that, because they
never got kids on there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
But the models looked a little more normal.
They weren't all likesupermodels.
Yeah, they weren't supermodels.
They weren't like Kate.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
Moss, although wasn't the two sisters, weren't they?
17 models?
Hadid's no, no, way back when.
Way before then yeah, one ofthem died in a car accident.
Hold on, I got it.
Nikki and Chrissy Taylor.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Yes, and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
Nikki Taylor was one of my favorites.
I think they did start.
We saw a picture of her.
We had to take a moment andlook at it.
Yes, but they were on 17.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
And.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Chrissy Taylor died in a car accident.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Yep, and like I, mentioned earlier, isabella
Russellini was well, not earlier, while we were on break.
Isabella Russellini was one ofmy favorites because I had a
thing for the short dark hairand I still can't remember the
girl's name from northernexposure maggie, maggie, yeah,
that is it.
Um, I had another point.
Oh, I watched a show, I think,on netflix recently that

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isabella russellini was in too.
It's very weird to see her old,old, because she went from
being a supermodel in the 90s toyou didn't see her anymore.
Yeah, and now she was in thisshow and she just looks kind of
like a grandma.
It's like whoa, that's so crazy.
I can't remember the show shewas in, though.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
My sister has super curly hair and she likes bobs.
My sister loves a bob, but shecannot have one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
So I have spent my life Having bobs, having her
come to me and be like can youget your haircut like this?
Can you get your haircut likethis, because I have a poker
straight hair.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Yep, yep so that's why.
Yeah, I always wanted the short, like Maggie from Northern
Exposure, Isabella Russellinithat short boy haircut.
I was thin, I had the dark hair.
I could have totally pulled itoff, but I had curly hair, so I
did have the short hair.
It was just an afro.
So you know what are you going?

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
to do Well, thank you , that was good.
We'll wrap it up.
I love magazines.
Let's bring them back, guys.
Let's get collages going.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Let's start a campaign to buy magazines.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:56):
Yeah, you're saving so many industries.
Yeah, except for the whiteboardindustry, but you only buy them
once.
Yeah, let's bring poster boardsback.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Elmer's Glue is going to skyrocket.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
They even have clear glue now.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
I was so disappointed when my kids needed school
supplies and it wasn't thesqueezy Elmer's glue, it's the
stupid glue sticks.
Now what?

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
the hell.
Well, that's how you get rid ofyour eyebrows.
To block out your eyebrows, youuse glue sticks.
Did you know that that's whatthe drag queens wear to block
out their eyebrows?

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
Glue sticks.
Yeah.
Smart yeah, smart yeah, anyhowyeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
How are you supposed to put glue all over your
fingers and peel it off?
You can't With a glue stick.
You can't.
You have to stick it in theglue.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
How are you supposed to sniff your glue?
Well, it's probably easier in astick to sniff it, because then
you can just like do it like aVicks inhaler.
I don't think it's as strong,though.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
No, probably not.
I don't remember the kids'sticks smelling as strongly as
and markers do not smell the waythey used to either.
Nothing does.
No more getting high inkindergarten.
No, god damn it Boo.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
That's probably what's wrong with us.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Everything's non-toxic now.
Like I said before.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
That's why we look so young because we were doing
lines of stinky things.
Yes, that doing lines of stinkythings.
Yes, that was artificiallystinky.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Yes, stickers from last week markers.
That's right.
Generations before us weretaking heroin and cocaine.
We were just doing lines ofglue, morphine.
That's what they were all doing.
Just all we needed was glue andyou could stick it in your
finger.
That's really all we needed wasglue.
Yeah, that's it, it is yeah,all right, that'll be our new

(01:23:33):
motto.
All we need is glue.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
It's not wrong.
Thank you for listening.
Thank you, you can like sharerate review, Please.
You can find us where youlisten to your podcast, Obvi.
You can follow us on all of oursocials.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Please.
Oh, we did break a thousand on.
Facebook this week A thousandfollowers on Facebook.
So thank you all.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Yes we did.
You can send an email about howyou personally are going to
bring back the magazine andcollage, or send us a picture of
your collage.
Oh, yes, to likewhateverpod atgmailcom.
Or don't like whatever whateverbye.

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