July 4, 2025 • 61 mins
Heartbreak never sounded so good. Join us as we journey through the defining breakup anthems of the 80s and 90s that still make us feel all the feelings decades later.
We're unpacking the surprising truth behind The Police's "Every Breath You Take" (hint: it's definitely not a love song), the cinematic power of OMD's "If You Leave" from Pretty in Pink, and the vocal masterpiece that is Whitney Houston's cover of "I Will Always Love You." Each track comes with stories – both from music history and our own personal connections that might just trigger your own musical memories.
Did you know Soft Cell's "Tainted Love" was actually a cover of a 1964 song that never found success until the 80s synth treatment? Or that Simple Minds initially refused to record "Don't You Forget About Me" before it became their signature hit? We're diving into these fascinating origin stories while sharing middle school dance traumas, personal attachments, and the bittersweet nostalgia these songs evoke.
From Annie Lennox's "Walking on Broken Glass" to Britney Spears' "Baby One More Time," we're examining how these songs captured the raw emotion of heartbreak across two decades. Whether you experienced these songs when they first released or discovered them years later, their emotional power remains undimmed by time.
Share your own breakup song memories with us! Find us on all socials @likewhateverpod or email us at likewhateverpod@gmail.com. And if you're enjoying our Gen X perspective on music, movies, and more, please like, share, rate and review the podcast wherever you listen.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Two best friends.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We're talking the past, from mistakes to arcades.
We're having a blast.
Teenage dreams, neon screens,it was all rad and no one knew
me.
Like you know.
It's like whatever.
Together forever, we're nevergonna sever Laughing and sharing
our stories.
Clever, we'll take you back.
(00:25):
It's like whatever.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Welcome to Like Whatever a podcast for.
By and about Gen X, I'm Nicoleand this is my BFF, heather.
Hello, so did you have a niceweek?
I did, it was hot.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's hot.
It was cranky.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
You guys are making it rain down here.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Like hella rain, yeah and in.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Dover.
They're like yeah, you're gonnaget it.
You're gonna get it, Nope,sorry.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Actually we're supposed to get one.
We had actually last night,night before tornado touchdown,
real close to here we'rerecording at my mom's house and
we are in dagsborough and, uh,she lost her power sunday, yeah,
and it looks like it's cloudingup right now yeah, they're
promising rain again.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
In dover.
It is supposed to rain, sowe'll see.
It's just a pain in the buttbecause I love watering the
flowers, but in this heat'm likecan a sister get a break?
Just one day can you rain, so Idon't have to water.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yesterday it was.
I knew it was going to rain, soI did bring my raincoat, but
the problem is it's 86,000degrees Great.
And then when you put the rainbecause my raincoat is Gore-Tex
so it doesn't breathe very well,but I brought it and it did
rain Hallaciously For like 45minutes.
(01:51):
I did take my lunch break atone point because I was like I
can't even drive in this, so Isat in my truck while it poured
and they leak.
So if you live in an area whereit rains a lot, your mail will
get wet because every one ofthose trucks leaks.
Sorry, it's just the way it is.
They all leak.
Plus, I don't know how to staydry when it's pouring as rain.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, that was my week.
How was your week?
I had a nice weekend.
I went to a winery with afriend of mine that I haven't
seen in years.
Lovely, yes, we each bought abottle of wine and we each were
there.
We were there for four hoursand we only drank half of each
of our own bottles because wewere literally talking the whole
(02:35):
time nice yeah, so that wasawesome and I ordered new
eyeglasses, yes, yes, but evenbetter, I had the nicest
experience with my eye doctor.
I just want I'm not going toname the name, but I just want
to shout out how awesome theoffice was, because I went in
there and I hadn't been therefor a while and there's reasons
(02:56):
for that, and I explained tomyself and they just treated me
with so much compassion andwe're really really nice about
the whole thing.
So in our current climate, it'snice to know there are still
really nice people out there.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You should totally get the glasses I have I'm where
you can change them out andthen maybe sometime we can get.
I should write them a letterbecause I'm like their number
one fan you should.
Maybe they'll sponsor the showI know because, because
currently I have skulls on mine.
And where else can you getglasses with skulls?
Exactly, and you can changethem every day, exactly.
So pair eyewear if you're outthere listening, but yeah, it's
(03:38):
also cool.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
now they just give you your prescription.
I guess, there's so many onlinepeople now and I'm so glad they
do that, because it was alwaysso awkward.
Like I don't want your $600glasses.
Can I please have myprescription?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I had to get the 600 ones the last time before I got
these, because my insurancecovered it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, that's what I did too.
So and my little tax-freehealth card it re-upped on
yesterday.
Oh nice yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So, yeah, I know I have a lot.
I have a lot online and I thinkI need to go back to the.
They keep sending me an email.
I don't know how long I've hadthese A while.
Oh has it, I'm going to get thesame ones though, because then
I can just keep the toppers.
That I have.
I'm telling you, I love thesestupid things new glasses every
day.
Yeah, I love that for myself.
(04:32):
Yeah, uh, what else that was it?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
yeah, I mean just super busy work I forget, we did
watch a movie this week oh, Iwatched dirty dancing the other
night, did you?
Yes, it was very difficult.
It's been a while since I'vewatched it, uh-huh, and I've
become much more informed abouta lot of things since then.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, I heard a thing that said when you were a kid,
you um identified with baby andas an adult you're like why?
Who would let her go out likethat?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
yeah, like her father was not wrong.
So, yeah, a lot of it.
I'm a lot of.
It's problematic, but got thesoundtrack and it's just so
sweet.
It really is, except thatpatrick swayze's 30 and she's 16
, but it's also patrick swayzewho is a saint, so anyway, it
(05:26):
was fun, but that abortion scenewas brutal.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
We haven't gone well.
I don't know if it's out.
It's out this week the JurassicWorld.
I am a huge, okay, Duh yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I like the dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
However, I don't know we I watched I made us watch
about six trailers for itbecause there was one trail that
I saw something and I was like,hold on, that's not a real
dinosaur, what is happening?
And they don't have featherswhy, don't?
They have feathers?
And there is new debate on thet-rex as to whether or not the
(06:08):
t-rex had wings as opposed tothat's why it has little teeny
arms oh yeah, that makes sensepossibly it had wings, but they
didn't put feathers on it.
Why?
Why, we all know they hadfeathers.
At this point, they put thefucking feathers on there.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Must not have looked as good cinematically.
It's all CGI Like it's AI.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
We'll put feathers on it.
Yeah, I don't know, so I can'tdecide because I mean, all the
rest of it looks good, but thenit's this one.
It looks like a cross between adinosaur and an alien.
Like the alien, the alien fromAliens yeah like the alien, the
(06:51):
alien from aliens, yeah, yeah, aface hugger, uh-huh, like the
grown-up face hugger.
When it came out like they showit in one of the clips, like
real quick, and I was like waita minute, that's alien, come on.
As soon as I saw that, I waslike I'm out.
As soon as I saw that I waslike I'm out, yeah, and he was
like really and I was like.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I mean, I have to say I was shocked they released
another one they're just gonnableed.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
That well, I guess yeah, but it's gonna start
getting really tacky I mean,there's only so many times you
could go back to the islandright and get surprised by it
yeah, and the original is justso good oh but I saw a thing
scarlett johansson was talkingabout it and she's been trying
to get in, apparently to thefranchise since she was like a
(07:37):
kid on the first one seriously,it took this long for her to get
in.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
That's what she said.
She's freaking, charlie.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Charlie's the wrong one.
No, oh, what's her face.
Scarlett Johansson.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Oh, her too.
Oh, I love her.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, she's in it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, I always mix those two up too, I know.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So I don't know.
I'm on the fence about it.
You know you're going Becauseyou know, once you start on
YouTube with the new trailersand they just show one right
after another, and then there'sapparently, a new.
Dracula coming out.
Oh, I don't know how I feelabout it.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Who's Dracula?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I don't know.
Oh, it's pre-Dracula.
It's Vlad.
Oh, who's playing that?
I don't know who it was.
I don't know who that dude is.
I don't know who that dude is.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I don't know who these people are.
Yeah, true, I watch award showsnow and I know like 20% of the
people that are on there.
I'm like who is?
That Music and acting.
I'm like I've literally neverheard your name or seen your
face before we finished up the50th anniversary of SNL last
night as a matter of fact.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And I don't remember it was one of the last ones and
I don't remember it was one ofthe last ones and I was like who
is that?
Even when it was I don't knowthe musical guest, some dude
that I don't know and he waslike you know the song?
And I was like I don't know thesong and he was like you know
the song and I was like do theyplay it on TikTok?
And he was like yes, and I waslike okay, well, I don't
(09:01):
remember who he is, though, butI did know the song, but I was
done.
We just fast forward throughthat.
So, yeah, we finished that up.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Well, that's it boring yeah, boring's good.
I'll take some boring, alright.
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So now let's fuck around andfind out about breakup songs of
the 80s and 90s so excited I try.
I mean there's a billion, soI've tried to pick out ones that
I like.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Hey, it's your podcast, you get to do what you
want.
Yep, fuck everybody else.
You don't like it too bad.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
All right, what you want, yep, fuck everybody else.
You don't like it too bad, allright.
So the first one I want todiscuss is every breath you take
by the police, which I neveractually thought of as a love
song.
It's definitely a stalker songum, like yeah, I don't know
where they were really goingwith that, but um so anyway.
Every breath you take to thisday is perceived to be a love
song.
However, the lyrics areactually spoken from a character
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with sinister intent.
As we said, during the timeSting wrote the song, he had
just divorced his first wife,frances Tomelty.
While his intention may havebeen to write a sweet, emotional
love song from the beginning,he was soon realizing that he
was entering into a dark placethat fought for control and
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surveillance.
Being in the midst of the ColdWar at that time did not help
the situation.
So is that a spy song?
Musically, the track features aminimal arrangement.
Sting's bass, stuart Copeland'sdrums and Andy Summers' guitar
round out the basic tracks withadded synths, piano and
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recording effects to boost theproduction.
This was at a time where theband were having conflicts on a
regular basis, which almostcaused producer Hugh Padshum to
quit and the recording to cease.
Regardless of the turmoilduring the recording, every
Breath you Take was a worldwidesuccess.
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The music video directed byGodley and Cream even won the
band the first BestCinematography Award at the 1983
MTV Video Music Awards.
The song also stands as thesignature song of the police and
has been played more than 9million times on the radio.
So I do like that song.
(12:11):
It is definitely not thepolice's best song, by far, no,
so I don't agree with that one.
I like Roxanne.
I love Roxanne.
Yeah, I can't even think of.
Well, actually, my favoritesong by the police is even
creepier and it's Don't Stand soClose to Me.
I love that song too, I know,which is about an adult teacher
(12:35):
and a high school girl, Youngteacher, yeah, but the subject
oh, such a good song.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That's how we can sing.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It was also the best-selling single of 1983 and
the fifth best-selling single ofthe 1980s in the United States.
That's crazy talk.
It was not the fifth best songof the 80s.
Winner of the 1984 Best Song ofthe Year and Best Pop
Performance by a duo or groupwith vocals grammy awards.
Uh, number 84 on the rollingstones list of the 500 greatest
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songs of all time.
I don't even know how theycompile that list, like every
time I hear it like usually thetop three, I'm like I could see
where you might think that.
But how do you choose like?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I imagine it's what spent the most time on like data
.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, I'm thinking like emotionally, I think it's
what spent the most time on Likedata.
Yeah, I'm thinking likeemotionally, I think it's
probably just what charted thelongest.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, like I imagine Thriller would be like or Beat
it or Billie Jean or one ofMichael Jackson's songs,
probably at the number one.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I think Michael Jackson's always at least top
three, if not number one, and ittopped the billboard top 100
for eight weeks and the uksingles chart for four weeks I
it's funny because, um ourfriend who has passed, we had a
our secret code which isprobably not so secret.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Uh, whenever a celebrity would die and we
didn't know, like the other one,we would just text the other
one poor Sting, because for awhile it was like all of Sting's
friends were dying, or likeSting was coming out and
speaking on whatever celebritydied.
So for the longest time wewould just text each other like
poor Sting, and then the otherone would have to like struggle
(14:26):
to find out who died and how itwas related to sting I've been
binge watching.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Uh, only murders in the building again.
Uh, I haven't seen the final,the fourth season, but I've
started at the beginning, which,by the way, if you haven't
watched that, it's an amazingshow, um, but stings in the
first season, um, and he's oneof their suspects in the murder
and there's an elevator scenewith him and it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
He's got to be old though.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
He still looks like Sting.
I can imagine.
Yeah, I don't think he ages.
I don't think he does either.
All right, so next, again notmy favorite song by this band,
but it was Not my favorite band.
No, I have said this before.
Yes, you have, even though youcan't tell a reason why I don't
have one.
Okay, so, with or Without you,by U2.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I know every word to every one of their songs.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yes, and I still can't, because it played on the
radio nonstop in the 90s.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I still haven't found what I'm looking for when I'm
listening to U2.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, With or Without you isn't I mean, of course,
it's a classic U2 song.
It was never one of myfavorites again, but With or
Without you was released as thelead single from the album the
Joshua Tree.
It was the band's mostsuccessful single at the time.
It features sustained guitarparts played by guitarist the
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Edge, along with vocals by leadsinger Bono and a bass line by
bassist Adam Clayton.
The song originated from a demorecorded in late 1985.
Love song.
The tracks lyrics were inspiredby bono's conflicting feelings
about the lives he led as amusician and domestic man.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
So where's the love story part in that?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I can't live with or without you yeah, but he said
that the lyrics are actuallyabout how he feels about his
life as a musician and his lifeas a domestic man.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I can only think of the chorus right now.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
When I worked for Grottoes andLewis when I was 18, it was the
summer I graduated high school Iwas a hostess and there was a
cute boy waiter that workedthere but he had a girlfriend
and we would innocently flirtwith each other.
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But he had scored some U2tickets and he came to me one
night and said his girlfriendhated U2 and didn't want to go.
Did I want to go?
Fuck, yeah, I want to go.
So I was so excited.
And then, of course, hisgirlfriend found out and was
like no, fuck, no, oh, fuck no,which I understand.
I just wanted to go see you too.
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I didn't want to cheat, butyeah, so I didn't get to go.
But he did bring me back histicket stubs, which is kind of
lame, but whatever, I guess hehad a crush on me, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Oh restaurant love.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yes, yes, All right.
Next, a song that has been wayoverplayed, but I still just
love, love love it, I love it, Idon't care.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yep, I like the extended version.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Every time it comes on, I will listen to it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yep, so we got Tainted Love by Soft Cell.
So we got Tainted Love by SoftCell.
Soft Cell's 1981 synth pop hitTainted Love is a remake of a
1964 Gloria Jones song.
I did not know that Jones'ssong was a B-side to my Bad Boys
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Comin' Home, a Motown singlethat flopped Must be why I've
never heard of it, and it's ashame that the B-side to that
you know of course that didn'tdo anything.
But then another band comesalong and makes one of the most
popular songs of all time Right,and that's one of the way it
goes.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, although I do like Marilyn.
I struggle with Marilyn Manson.
I know he's a horrible humanbeing.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I know.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I don't know that about him.
He's a horrible human being, ishe really?
Yes, um, just awful, uh, anyway, but you enjoy his music, I do,
yeah, I do.
Unfortunately I do, andunfortunately his cover songs
are some of my favorite covers.
(18:47):
He knows how to cover a fuckingsong and he covered, he covered
.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
He does a cover of tainted love yeah, and he covers
it in his own way.
It sounds like a marilyn mansonsong.
Personal jesus, he did I meanany of his covers are just
really good yeah I don'tactually know any of the words
to any of his actual songs Iguess I do, but you know the
beautiful people, probably,literally, that's like the only
one, probably.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Okay, that was the only one I could think of.
All right, so I've seen them inconcert.
They opened for nine inch nailsbefore anybody knew who they
were.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So gloria jones.
Tainted love blew up in theuk's northern soul scene in the
70s after british DJ RichardSearling bought a used copy on a
trip to the US.
After Tainted Love got a boostfrom the Northern Soul scene,
gloria Jones recorded a newversion in 1974, but it failed
the chart.
That poor lady, she just wasn'tin the cards for her.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
She's probably getting paid, though, every time
.
Hell yeah, she is.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
When Soft Soul decided to give the song a go in
1981, they changed the key andslowed the tempo.
They worked with producer MikeThorne to create the electronic
arrangement for the song.
Thorne told Sound on Sound, youcould smell the coke on that
second.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
You really can.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Northern Soul version .
It was really so over-red andso frantic.
It was good for the dance floor, but I didn't like the record.
When soft cell performed thesong, I heard a very novel sound
and a very nice voice.
So off we went.
And I also forgot to add in thebeginning that all my
information, almost all myinformation, comes from
geniuscom, with a tiny splash ofwiki splashed in there.
(20:29):
I try not to use wiki, butsometimes it's a necessary evil.
All right, this song I chosebecause you have to.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
It's like against the law to not.
I mean, it's like thisseriously.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I have a middle school dance story about this
song.
Oh good, so that's why it'shere.
So this one is Total Eclipse ofthe Heart by Bonnie Tyler.
Turn around Every now and thenI get a little.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I'm in so much trouble man.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I had this 45.
And at the very end when shegoes, turn around, bright eyes.
The second time she says thatturn around bright eyes, bright
eyes, bright eyes.
And for decades, every time Iheard that song I heard the skip
at the end.
When we get to it, I haven'theard it in a long time.
Maybe I would still hear theskip, I don't know.
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But yeah so anyway.
Total Eclipse of the Heart isthe lead single by Welsh singer
Bonnie Tyler from her fifthstudio album, faster Than the
Speed of Night, in 1983.
It was written and produced byJim Steinman and recorded in
1982, released as a single byCBS slash Columbia in 1983.
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The song, a debut with RoryDodd, became Tyler's biggest
career hit, topping the UKsingles charts and becoming the
fifth best-selling single in1983 in the United Kingdom.
In the United States the singlespent four weeks at the top of
the charts, keeping anotherSteinman-penned song, making
Love Out of Nothing at All byAir Supply, also a great song,
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from reaching the top spot, asong Taylor would later cover in
1995.
And it was Billboard's numbersix song of the year for 1983.
The song was nominated for aGrammy Award for Best Female Pop
Vocal Performance.
Its accompanying music videowas directed by Russell Mulcahy
(22:25):
and filmed in Surrey, england.
Worldwide, the single has salesin excess of 6 million copies
and was certified gold by theRecording Industry Association
of America for sales of over 1million copies after its release
.
Updated to platinum in 2001when the certification threshold
changed In 2015, the song wasvoted by the British public as
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the nation's third favorite1980s number one in a poll for
itv her other song hold out fora hero.
I mean, oh yeah yeah, what moviewas that?
Was it a tom cruise movie shrek?
It wasn't shrek, but I think itwas also in, like I don't know,
I don't know, maybe not butanyway, my story right.
(23:08):
So when I was in third andfourth grade I had a boyfriend
named Kenny and Kenny had a twinbrother named Carl.
They were identical twins and Ilived like two blocks from the
school.
And those were the good olddays when you just walked home
from school and there were noparents or teachers or anybody
in sight Right, just were setfree to wander and find your way
(23:30):
home.
Good luck, yeah.
And they would like follow mebut like hide and my mom always
knew they were coming home withme and they would come home and
come to my house and my momwould like feed us or whatever
and they had the cool DonkeyKong like handheld machine
looking thing.
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So, anyway, we were at a middleschool dance.
I must have stayed with Kennyup until fifth grade.
That would have been middleschool.
That's long term.
It really was.
We were committed.
So, anyway, we were at thedance and Total Eclipse of the
Heart came on and I wanted todance with him.
So bad, and he refused.
So his twin, carl, danced withme, which I thought was so sweet
.
That is very sweet, yep.
(24:12):
So yeah.
And then another girl, whoturned, ended up being a lesbian
, stole him from me and thenbeat me up in the locker room
after she stole my boyfriend.
But I don't know, crazy middleschoolers.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I have my middle school song.
What I got to dance with mycrush was You're the Inspiration
by Chicago.
I love it.
It's funny how songs that meanlike I mean whatever, but like
that.
Every time I hear that songit's like back in the time zone
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and I get to dance with my crush.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
All all right, I'm setting you up for a plug here.
Don't leave me hanging.
The next song is don't youforget about me.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
By simple minds, go for it, okay uh, if you would
like to listen to the uh episodethat we did on the Breakfast
Club, it's number a few and it'scalled Sincerely Yours, the
Breakfast Club, and it's acouple episodes back.
(25:17):
Apparently, I didn't put anepisode number on that one.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I don't know what I was doing there.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
But yeah, so you should go back and listen to it.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yep, alright.
So.
Written by Keith Forsey andSteve Schiff.
Simple Minds, don't you ForgetAbout Me was released as a
single February 20th 1985, andwas featured as the main theme
of the classic 1985 teen filmthe Breakfast Club, originally
offered to the Fix Brian Ferryand Billy Idol.
Can you imagine Billy Idolsinging that song?
(25:45):
No, me neither.
But all declined, idol did,however, record his own version
years later.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
You can go back and listen and find him.
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I want to.
Forsey then asked Simple Minds,who initially refused but
eventually agreed per suggestionof their label A&M.
It said that the bandrearranged and recorded the song
in three hours and promptlyforgot about it, considering it
was just another song theyrecorded for somebody.
The song would go on to top theUS Billboard Hot 100 chart,
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making it's Simple Minds'biggest hit in the US to date,
because of the breakfast I wasgoing to say.
I mean there's only one reasonthey just lucked out right there
.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
The next one I'm so excited about because it comes
from my favorite 80s movie ofall time.
I don't know why this one's myfavorite, but it is.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I have a fun story about this one too.
So this one is If you Leave byOMD.
Leave by omd, aka orchestralmaneuvers in the dark.
Uh, if you leave is a song bybritish pop synth group
orchestral maneuvers in the dark.
The track was commissioned byjohn hughes to be used in the
final season of his 1986 filmpretty in pink.
The track reached internationalsuccess, managing to enter
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music charts around the world.
In the United States it becamethe group's highest charting
single ever after.
It peaked at number four on theBillboard Hot 100 chart
Alongside their 1980 hit EnolaGay, which is probably my
favorite.
Omd song.
If you Leave is considered tobe one of the band's signature
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songs.
It has had an enduring presenceas one of the most
distinguished and recognizabletracks of the 80s.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I just that movie.
I don't know why I love thatone so much.
I love Ducky.
I mean, yes, of course, I thinkI wanted to be Ducky.
I think you wanted to beMollyucky.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I think you wanted to be Molly Ringwald too, probably
because she makes her own in away she always dress like she
dresses kooky in that one shemakes her own dress and she's
awkward and I know everybody hastalked about how hideous that
dress is.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I liked it yeah.
I like the little piece aroundher neck.
I just like, I liked it.
I like what's little piecearound her neck.
I don't, I just like, I likedit.
I like um.
What's her face in it as herher?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
uh, the lady who worked in the um record store
and that one had the asian kidin it too no what's that
happening?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
that's, that's 16 candles oh that's right, yeah,
no, that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Just I mean, when ducky does and, if you get the
chance, he redoes that on jayleno, jimmy fallon, one of them,
I would probably probably jimmyfallon such a great scene he
does, he redoes it and it is alltime favorite thing.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I loved his creepers.
I wanted his creepers.
I have never had a pair ofcreepers that shocks me I know,
I don't know why I have.
I can't get past, I can't letgo of the docs to put the
creepers on.
Oh yeah, I don't know why Ireally shouldn't be get myself a
pair of creepers, but I neverhad any.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Um, but I mean man, when we get rich off the podcast
, you can buy yourself creepers.
I'm going to buy myself whitecreepers.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I'm going to wear them.
The next one's going to make mesad.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
So no, but my story with OMD is back and I've
mentioned this before.
But if you haven't memorizedall the details of my life so
far, I'll refresh your memory.
What the hell are you?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
doing.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Are you even a fan?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Are you even?
Speaker 1 (29:31):
listening.
But when I was 16, I had a penpal from San Diego, California.
Her name was Shelly and shecame to visit.
She was only like 14, but shewas being raised by her aunt,
and California is just crazy andmuch freer than it is here.
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So they threw her on a planeand sent her across the country
to a stranger's house to stayfor a couple weeks.
Safe the good old days.
But she is the one thatintroduced me to orchestral
maneuvers in the dark.
She brought a cassette with her.
She left it with me Because Iloved it so much and I wore that
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thing out.
So yeah, that's what's funabout.
Music is just so many memoriesare attached to it in so many
ways.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
So take you back to just a second of time, or just
an area like you just knowexactly you can, or just an area
like you just know exactly youcan relive it, you can smell it,
you can.
It is.
It's crazy how that just takesyou back to a time and you know
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everything about like you couldhave not remembered anything
about that for decades.
And then one song, just becausethe next I'll tell you why the
next one will stop me in mytracks every time I hear it.
All right, let's go heather'sgonna bring the room down and oh
lord, are you gonna cry?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
no good, um, I'm on pills for that, oh great.
How's the rage?
By the way?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
much better.
Really it worked.
I yeah, I don't feel like I'mgonna murder anybody well,
that's disappointing, but I'mglad you feel that I, I feel, I,
I don't feel like that.
I really honestly had like ragein my gut, like I could feel it
.
It was a physical symptom and Idon't have that anymore.
I still probably could killsomebody, but I don't feel like
I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I mean you're not going to turn down an
opportunity, never, never will.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I still get very angry, but I can control a
little bit better now.
Okay, good, I'm happy for you.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Thanks, hormones.
Yeah, I love it when medicationworks.
So In your Eyes.
By Peter Gabriel, this songfeatures Senegalese superstar
Yusunador singing through thecoda.
He sings parts of the chorus astranslated in his native Wolof
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Whew, that sentence.
That was a sentence.
That was too.
I should have just deleted thatone out.
Popular lore holds that thissong was written for Rosanna
Arquette, who I love.
I love her too.
I love the whole Arquette clan,and I did not know that.
I know With whom Gabriel livedfor some time in the 80s and
early 90s.
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Gabriel has said that, despitethe fact that the song came to
be exclusively associated withromantic love in popular culture
, he originally wanted to writelyrics that were ambiguously
about both romantic love andlove of God, a blurring employed
in some African music.
This song is famously used forthe classic romantic comedy Say
(32:36):
Anything.
That was a good one too.
Originally intended as thealbum's closing track, gabriel
instead made it the fifth track,as its placement at the start
of side two would make the bassline sound deeper and fuller,
thanks to the physicalintricacies of vinyl, in which
the turntable needle's velocitydecreases the closer it gets to
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the center of the record,resulting in a higher noise
floor and reduced sound quality,especially in the lower
frequencies.
Good to know, that's yourlittle science lesson for today.
This was also the case on CDand cassette releases, which did
not have this limitation.
The 2002 and 2012 remasters,meanwhile, would restore
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Gabriel's original intentionmaking, in your Eyes, the album
closer across all formats.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
So Heather's sad story about this one.
God, I know it's gonna bringyou down too great.
So because I know you peopledon't memorize- any of our lives
, and I don't even know if I'vetold you this.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
I used to date nicole's brother-in-law I hooked
them up on a new year's Eve.
Yeah, they had a crush on eachother.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And so we watched Say Anything a lot, and I said to
him once that if we ever brokeup, that he was required to
bring his boombox and play thatsong for me.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Try to get you back.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Okay, so sad story real quick.
He died, he did.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Excessively tragically.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Extremely tragically On my watch.
No, oh, I was in Florida.
I didn't kill him.
I was, however, investigated.
Don't tell anybody.
It was his fault.
It was his fault.
It was his fault.
That's why.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I don't drink.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Anyway, more importantly, every time, I don't
care what station it is forstill I can still walk in places
and that song will come in,come on out of nowhere, like it
won't be playing any 80s, it'llbe playing like just the
(34:54):
weirdest stuff, and then thatsong will drop it.
Song haunts me, it follows me,the fuck around, drives me nuts.
That and my immortal, that one,that one, yeah, I can't even
listen to that one, but yeah, sopeter gabriel follows me around
.
That's gonna make me sad allthe time.
(35:14):
Fuck you, peter.
Gabriel, you're making me sad,but yeah, it will come on.
I it's so weird.
All the time I can switchchannels and it'll come on, and
then it'll come on again Totallydifferent channel.
Leave me alone, bro.
Right, get a life.
It's been 25 years.
Move on, right, anyway.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Sad story over.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yes and scene All right.
Our next one is NothingCompares to you by Sinead
O'Connor, which is one of theclassic love songs of all time.
That song with no connectionwill make me cry when I listen
to it.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Man, that's a great song.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
And her voice is so perfect for it.
Plus, we love her anyway.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I mean I love Prince and all, but I know it's his
song, but man.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, I can't even fathom him singing it.
And he knew that.
Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
He released it, but it's.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, hers is the love, and I hate it when people
remake it.
I'm like stop, yeah, just stop,you can't.
There are some things thatshould not be remade.
Yeah, like the movie they did,didn't they?
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
I watched that the other nighttoo.
Not the new one, I refuse.
I watched the old one, cow,even though I can recite the
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whole thing.
So anyway, originally writtenand composed by Prince for one
of his side projects, the Family, it was later made famous by
Irish recording artist SineadO'Connor, whose arrangement was
released as the second singlefrom her second studio album.
I Do Not Want what I Haven'tGot, which, by the way, is just
a fucking phenomenal album.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Black Boys on Mopeds.
Oh my God, I love that song somuch, so much.
Anyway, this version, whichO'Connor co-produced with Nellie
Hopper, became a worldwide hitin 1990.
A music video which has beendescribed as iconic was shot and
received heavy rotation on MTV.
That's perfect.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
That's a perfect video too.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
It is.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I mean, just everything about that is
perfection, I know.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I know, although, oh my gosh, talk about a perfect
video.
The other day I was on Spotifyand on the playlist came up and
came on, untitled, by D'Angelo.
Do you know that song?
I don't you do.
I don't.
You don't know me.
Maybe you remember the video hewas.
(37:44):
It was just him from thetreasure trail up with no
clothes, glistening beautifulblack skin.
No, I don't remember that.
Breeds.
No, talk about fine, yeah,right, anyway, I digress, let's
(38:07):
see.
I digress, let's see.
O'connor stated in a 2019interview that she thought
covering the song would makePrince love her.
However, the results were quitedifferent.
I thought Prince would fall inlove with me and it would all be
lovely, but he was the mostfrightening human I have ever
met in my life, even morefrightening than my mother.
(38:30):
I've heard that about him.
Yeah, I could see that abouthim.
He was very private for as veryfamous as he was.
Very, very weird Yep.
All right, I had to include thenext one because they are from
Philly, motown.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Philly, oh no, back again.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
All right.
So End of the Road by Boyz IIMen, which happens to be one of
my least favorite Boyz II Mensongs.
In this song, one of the boysknow that his time with his girl
is coming to an end, but heisn't ready to let go of her.
And can I just tell you that Iwas today years old when I
realized that that song wasn'tabout a relationship.
(39:11):
I think I thought that it isabout a relationship.
I think I thought someone hadpassed away.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
That's so hard to say goodbye.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Oh, all right, Thanks for sending me straight.
It's been a busy week.
End of the Road was Boyz IIMen's first ever number one
single, reaching number one onthe Billboard Hot 100 charts for
13 straight weeks, which was arecord at the time.
This song also won two Grammysfor Best R&B Performance by a
duo or group with vocals andBest R&B Song.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
You know, boyz II Men and Belle Beaux De Vaux did an
Eagles halftime show once that Iwas at.
Oh my God, yeah, it was prettyphenomenal.
I mean, I did get to see.
Montel Jordan with you, whichwas a highlight of my life.
I love that song.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
And that's one of those songs.
Every time I hear it I'm like Isaw them.
I mean, I have told anybody whowill listen that I saw him and
they're always like oh really,the.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Bell Bibbed, devoe and Boyz II Men was my standout.
I was a huge.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
BBD, bdd.
Bell Bibbed BBD.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
ABC.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
BBD, anyway.
So East Coast family.
Yeah, I wore out that album, orcassette, anyway.
Next one One of my all-timefavorite singers, all-time
favorite songs, both theoriginal and this one I Will
Always Love you by WhitneyHouston.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
It's so crazy how different, they are, but both
great, so beautiful.
I mean first of all fuckingDolly Parton, I mean.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
She has lived the life.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
She is an amazing human being.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
And her husband's just there.
They're just happy living anormal life.
You do know that she is coveredin tattoos right.
That doesn't surprise me.
That rumor is true.
I didn't know that, but it doesnot surprise me at all.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
She wears all the way down to her fingers.
She always has yes.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Because she's got.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
She's not covered in tattoos but she says she has
quite a few and they don'treally go along with her what
she thinks she should be puttingout there it's like a butterfly
, as I think she does have animage.
Yep, and so she covers them allthe time.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah all right, so let them go dolly, let them go.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
she also has I don't know if you know this, but she
puts out books once a month thatare free to anyone yeah, any
children.
I think anyone can sign up forit.
We deliver them all the time.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I knew she had a children's book thing going on.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Every once a month, I believe it is, or every couple
weeks, I know.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, that's a really awesome cause.
Yeah, I Will Always Love youwas covered by Whitney Houston
and recorded for her 1992 film,the Bodyguard.
The song was originally writtenby Dolly Parton and released on
June 6, 1974.
I was a wee little one-year-oldas the second single from her
13th solo studio album Jolene,of course the best, dolly Jolene
(42:10):
, jolene, jolene, jolene, ofcourse the best, jolene jolene,
jolene, jolene.
It's such a good song, I know,please don't take away my man.
Um houston's cover has sincebecome one of the best-selling
singles of all time andcontributed to the bodyguard
being the top-selling soundtrackof all time.
See, this is where the singercarried the movie, rather than
the movie carrying the song.
Um, that drop, oh god, yeah, oh, I just got goosebumps.
(42:36):
You've been thinking about itthat's the.
I mean, yeah, that that yeah,definitely, and her voice, the
range crazy.
Um, let me see.
Uh, kevin costner, houston'smale opposite and one of the
film's co-producers, is actuallyresponsible for suggesting this
song for Houston to cover inthe film's first track release.
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He brought the original song tocomposer David Foster, who
rearranged it as a pop balladfor Houston.
It topped the Billboard Hot 100for 14 consecutive weeks,
beating out Boyz II Men's 13weeks.
At the time, this was therecord for the longest number
one.
It also reached number three onthe Hot 100 after Houston's
(43:20):
death in 2012.
It's so sad.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
That is so sad.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Bobby Brown just ruined her.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I don't know there's a documentary on her, and it
wasn't just him.
Yeah, her family did that toher too.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Like her.
Yeah, that's what she did.
So next, I chose this onebecause another cassette tape
that I wore out.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
We were just talking about her.
I don't think that she has everdone anything wrong?
Speaker 1 (43:54):
No she is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I mean Stunning, stunning, yes, yeah, her voice
Probably prettier than she is,if that's even fucking possible.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Right.
So we're talking about Walkingon Broken Glass by Annie Lennox.
Annie Lennox fans willnaturally wonder if Walking on
Broken Glass refers to her long,treacherous love affair with
her ex-arhythmics partner, davidStewart.
Walking on Broken Glass is thethird single by Annie Lennox
that appears off her 1992 soloalbum, diva.
(44:27):
It was written by Lennoxherself and produced by Stephen
Lipson.
The song was a major commercialsuccess, reaching number one in
Canada, number eight in theUnited Kingdom and Ireland and
number 14 in the United Statessingle charts.
The song's theme of scornedlove inspired a classic music
video Director Sophie Mullerpulled from period films
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depicting the late 18th century,including Dangerous Liaisons
and Amadeus.
Lennox plays an aristocraticlady trying to regain attention
from a former lover, played byJohn Malkovich, the star of
Dangerous Liaisons.
Lennox's other love interest isplayed by Hugh Laurie.
The future house star playedPrince George on the TV comedy
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Blackator, blackadder,blackadder, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
I love Hugh Laurie.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah, and that album was also featured in the Demi
Moore movie Striptease.
Did you ever see that movie?
I did.
I don't remember that.
Well, I remember it becausethat's when I was bartending in
that movie theater that was out,so I've seen it like a thousand
times.
But when she strips, she dancesto Annie Lennox songs from that
album.
(45:39):
It's really good.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
You know what song is ?
Just, I mean a love song fromVampire.
Have you ever?
Speaker 1 (45:46):
heard that On your way home.
Google it Okay, len.
Have you ever heard that Onyour way home?
Google it Okay.
Lennox recalled this was awonderful video to create.
There were some wonderfulpeople involved John Malkovich
and Hugh Laurie before he had anAmerican accent, that was
tremendous fun.
The idea of it being a periodpiece like Les Lésions
Dangereuses.
Thank you Close enough.
(46:06):
I would have read it with aSpanish accent, just like I did.
You're French.
You can speak French, leslaisiers dangereux.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Thank you, close enough.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I would have read it with a Spanish accent, just like
I did when I took French incollege.
Lennox saw a parallel betweenthe film, where a noble woman
plots to take revenge against anunfaithful lover, and this song
.
The alternative title forBroken Glass could easily have
been hell hath no more fury thana woman's.
(46:33):
No, that's not the way you sayit.
Hell hath no more fury than awoman.
I thought it was.
Hell hath no fury than a woman.
I'm sure that I don't thinkmore goes in there?
I think it probably does, andthen we americans just well, I
don't want to say that a womanscorned is just like hell.
She's worse than hell, so Idon't want the more in there
(46:55):
right, but it's hell hath nomore.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
So hell is not as furious.
All right, we're just going toagree to disagree.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Uh, the video is very wry and tongue-in-cheek.
People can take me a littleseriously sometimes, but I do
actually have a rather radicalsense of humor.
I bet she does.
I bet she has a really darksense of humor.
I bet she does.
She's probably just like us.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
I want to know her so bad.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Alright, so the final one we can't do 80s 90s music
without the Britney Spears ohbaby.
Baby one more time.
I just can't watch Britney'svideos anymore.
So sad.
I want to support her, but sheis such a wreck I know she
(47:43):
breaks my heart.
It's awful.
Anyway, I digress Baby onedigress Baby One More Time
attained global success,reaching number one in nearly
every country it charted in.
It also received numerouscertifications around the world
and is one of the best sellingsingles of all time, with over
18 million copies sold.
(48:04):
Whenever I hear copies soldaround the world, it just
doesn't sound like that much.
All the billions of people inthe world and only 18 million
bought it.
Yeah, like you would think, inthe United States, out of 350
million, there would be 18million that would buy it.
True, I don't know, thosenumbers just never sound that
big to me.
Maybe that was Beckman.
Maybe they sell like 50 billionnow.
(48:25):
This song is the first track onBritney's debut studio album of
the same name.
It was released as the leadsingle of the album on October
23rd 1998.
It was originally written forTLC, which wouldn't have been
bad either, but they turned itdown.
It earned Spears a Grammynomination for Best Female Pop
(48:48):
Vocal Performance In January2025,.
It amassed one billion streamson Spotify, joining its Billions
Club.
After Spears' Toxic and I don'tcare for Toxic I like.
Toxic.
I never really got why it wasso popular.
I like it.
Similarly, the music videoreached the milestone on YouTube
because she's a child in aCatholic schoolgirl outfit.
(49:10):
Yep, anyway, from Charlie XCX1999 to Anne Marie's 2002,
spears.
Spears influence is notorious,as notorious as her song
continues to be referenced it'suniversal desire to quench
loneliness.
Spears confessional vocals andthe distinguishable piano riff
(49:31):
have made the single transcendgenerations, crowning it a pop
classic.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Never was I mean, I don't mind.
I don't mind, it's Britneybitch.
I don't mind Britney.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Never was a.
I was never a huge fan, butI've always tried to be
supportive, because her wholelife has just been a train wreck
.
And now, oh god, those videosare terrible.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I can't believe that you did not put oh, no one.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Cure song.
Yes, you know what?
Speaker 2 (50:02):
And I'm actually so mad at myself right now because
while I was Because you didn'tput Love fucking Song on there.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Because while I was creating this, I was like I have
to put a Cure song in here.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Heather will kill me and well, I'll just tell you go
for it, love song by the cureit's a love song it is written
by robert smith for his wifemary mary, um which, so I don't
know why, but I mean I guess Iknow why because it's my
algorithm on everything, butlike the cure, shit has been
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popping out left and right forme.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
It comes up on mine a lot too.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
I belong to a lot of goth groups?
Speaker 1 (50:38):
I don't.
Are they making some sort ofcult comeback?
Well, they just had a new albumcome out.
I knew they had a new albumcome out and they just toured,
which I should have gone.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
I heard it was amazing.
I was so hesitant because I sawthem outside once and I hated
every second of it because theyare not good outside.
It was terrible.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Because their music is synth music.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Although we saw Depeche Mode outside and that
was good.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Yeah, but they put on a fucking good show.
I don't care who you are, ifyou ever get the chance to see
Depeche Mode go.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
They do put on one hell of a good show.
Yes, it is a good time, fromthe beginning to the end.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
And you know all the words.
Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
It's a yeah.
I know you could have put likehome.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
Trust me, I could have made this a 10 hour episode
.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Depeche Mode.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Anyway, another time we will make Love Song.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Another one Love depeche mode.
Um, anyway, another time wewill make um love song.
Another one was written to hiswife, mary, and they have been
married man it's it's like 40years now, and these were
actually breakup songs oh yeah,so they didn't break up.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Thank god okay I'm sure there is one that will make
your boys on the cure.
Boys, don't cry, love cats.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
No.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
We should do.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
I love the cure I have.
I have been on it.
Well, I was on a Guns N' Roseskick for a couple minutes and I
just couldn't get enough.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Paradise City's my jam.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Mr Brownstone, yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
And even every rose has its thorn, it's a really
pretty song no, it's poison.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
It's poison okay is it yes, it's poison either way,
it's all the same.
Don't say that, and I loveeverything by motley crew and
home, sweet home, is motley crewand I would have sex with tommy
lee.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
they they were supposed to be here.
They get all the STDs he has.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
They were here.
They were supposed to be herein Ocean City.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah, I remember that .
Speaker 2 (52:39):
They dropped out, and who picked up for it?
Rage Against the Machine.
They had to drop out, and soRob Zombie took their place.
I know I was so sad because Ididn't get to go.
I was like, well, I would havegone for rob fucking zombie.
Yeah, I love rob zombie.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
I don't, I love his movies.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
I don't care if they're just a showcase to show
off his wife's ass.
He does have a hot wife and shehas a really nice ass.
And I don't know if youremember the tv show cribs oh
yeah, mntv, they did a cribs, ohgod, oh, I wanted to live there
.
Of course you did.
First of all, did you know thatrob zombie and tim burton are
(53:22):
friends and tim burton came overand painted a mural in their
kids room shut the fuck up, Iwill.
And so I was like I want tolive there.
And they had a pool, but theyhad done nothing with the pool,
so it was all like grown overand green and he was like, yeah,
we don't use the pool.
(53:43):
But oh man, that house was justeverything that's probably
exactly what you want.
Exactly, I probably would havethe pool, though, but it would
be covered, and indoor.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
I don't really see Rob Zombie floating around a
pool, although it would be kindof cute, one of those long rafts
with his drink and his cupholder you should look up goths
in non-goth places.
I think I've seen that.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
It's freaking hilarious.
And then there's another one.
It's um, it's the grim reaper,and they have him in different
and he's like floating around ina um is that the guy on um
instagram?
Speaker 1 (54:21):
yes, yeah, I've been following him for years, like at
the beach and he's on thelifeguards yes, and then he's
when he's amazing in the littlepool floaty that's a pink
flamingo yes, and he's in hislittle pool floaty that's a pink
flamingo.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
Yes, and he's in his little Grim Reaper.
He's the best he really is.
That's it.
That's good, that was reallygood, thanks.
I guess we can just remove thecure because it is not a breakup
.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yeah, I'll do one about love songs one time and I
promise to include the cure.
Well, I mean, we should just doa, okay, um, oh yeah, do an
episode on the cure for sure.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
But yeah, and and that's on you my dad calls
depeche mode chepesmo.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
We should really do an episode on chepesmo, because
we well, there you have the nameof the episode.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
We have, we have been to many, many, many, so many so
many yeah, we should have goneto this loud.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
They just toured too, I know my first husband was a
like he thought he was davegahan.
He did sound.
He I was going to say he didcould sing.
He had a band, uh, for a minute, um, but he would force his
voice to sound like dave gahan.
I don't know what his voiceactually sounds like, but that's
(55:33):
what he was trying to mimic andhe was very good at it, very
good yeah.
So literally anytime they werearound Giving him credit for
that, but yes, yeah, that was alittle painful, but I'm
practicing kindness, creditwhere credit is due.
Yes, yep, I should have thoughtof that one when I went to
parenting classes after thedivorce and they were like, come
(55:54):
up with like five good thingsto say about your ex.
And I was like I literallycan't come up with one.
And they were like, no, theywere trying to teach you to have
nice things to say about themto your children.
I just chose to not sayanything at all about him to my
children.
But I was like no, like no,seriously, I can't.
And then I started like goingthrough things, like trying to
figure it out, and the one dudelooks at me and he goes man, he
(56:15):
sounds like an asshole.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
I was like, well, yeah that's why I'm here and
seeing yeah, yeah, well, we we.
The last time we went to seedepeche Mode I won those tickets
.
You did.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
On the radio.
On the radio, and that was likeat the tail end of winning
tickets on the radio.
I don't know if they do thatanymore.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
I don't know I wouldn't listen to the radio.
I couldn't even tell you.
But I was imagine that I wasevery caller.
I remember that every number.
Finally the guy was like okay,like yeah, I don't know why you
should give me nobody's calling.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
That was the time we went to DC and the president was
coming through right, oh yeah.
And we got stuck in traffic.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
It was George W.
I would think it wasn't Obamaor Clinton.
It wasn't Clinton.
It was in the 2000s.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
Was it?
I guess we were in college whenClinton was around.
It might have been George.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
W, it wasn't Obama.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
We would remember if we were like oh my God, obama
was driving by.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
Now that Biden was president, kind of saw that a
lot, but he lives here.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
He spends a lot of vacation time here.
I'm just excited that we get apresidential library now.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
I know.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
It's so cool.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
Well, are they going to put it in Wilmington, I guess
, or up that way, I'm sure theywill.
It would be nice if they put itwhere Hoban.
That's where all the fancystuff is.
Speaker 1 (57:44):
That's where they really should put it.
He loves to be there.
Yeah, they won't.
That property is too valuable.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
Property is ridiculous.
Anyway, that's the adultportion of our.
How much property has gone uphere?
That's a whole differentpodcast, so you can Well first
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One other thing I was on, sowe're in all these Facebook
groups right that talk aboutpodcasting so I can learn things
, and everybody is like it takesme four hours to edit and I'm
like am I doing something wrong?
Because it literally takes mehowever long the episode is.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
Our listeners are probably like yeah, we can tell.
Yeah.
Y'all suck, because I literallywrote this an hour before I
came down here.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Well, I guess people get so like hung up on the ums
and the ands, but it'sconversation.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
I mean, I do cut some of it out.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
I don't know I say some dumb shit.
Sometimes you gotta cut outwell, and then we stop it right.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
So it's not like we continue and let it roll, like
just stop it.
Yeah, because we did get, notthat you all care, but that's
funny, we used to whisper it toeach other.
We need to stop.
We figured out that we don'tneed to whisper.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
Well, I think what I mean we're just one and done.
We're not going to rehearse,we're not going to go back and
be like I think we need to.
No, fuck that, you get what youget.
You don't like it, buthopefully you like it.
I hope you like it, even ifHeather doesn't care.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
I do care deeply, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
I don't care, I do, I do care deeply.
I'm just saying I don't careabout editing, right, I just
pause it.
I know, and all these likepodcasting people bug us on, oh
my god socials.
God, it's the absolute word.
It's.
The worst part about having apodcast is all the messengers I
can boost your buh, buh, buh,buh.
Dude, seriously, we are sittinghere at a card, folded card
table with two laptops, two $50microphones yeah, and we just
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We did not like redo anything.
Ai does the rest.
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Welcome to Like Whatever a podcast for.
By and about Gen X, I'm Nicoleand this is my BFF, heather.
Hello, so did you have a niceweek?
I did, it was hot.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's hot.
It was cranky.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
You guys are making it rain down here.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Like hella rain, yeah and in.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Dover.
They're like yeah, you're gonnaget it.
You're gonna get it, Nope,sorry.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Actually we're supposed to get one.
We had actually last night,night before tornado touchdown,
real close to here we'rerecording at my mom's house and
we are in dagsborough and, uh,she lost her power sunday, yeah,
and it looks like it's cloudingup right now yeah, they're
promising rain again.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
In dover.
It is supposed to rain, sowe'll see.
It's just a pain in the buttbecause I love watering the
flowers, but in this heat'm likecan a sister get a break?
Just one day can you rain, so Idon't have to water.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yesterday it was.
I knew it was going to rain, soI did bring my raincoat, but
the problem is it's 86,000degrees Great.
And then when you put the rainbecause my raincoat is Gore-Tex
so it doesn't breathe very well,but I brought it and it did
rain Hallaciously For like 45minutes.
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I did take my lunch break atone point because I was like I
can't even drive in this, so Isat in my truck while it poured
and they leak.
So if you live in an area whereit rains a lot, your mail will
get wet because every one ofthose trucks leaks.
Sorry, it's just the way it is.
They all leak.
Plus, I don't know how to staydry when it's pouring as rain.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, that was my week.
How was your week?
I had a nice weekend.
I went to a winery with afriend of mine that I haven't
seen in years.
Lovely, yes, we each bought abottle of wine and we each were
there.
We were there for four hoursand we only drank half of each
of our own bottles because wewere literally talking the whole
(02:35):
time nice yeah, so that wasawesome and I ordered new
eyeglasses, yes, yes, but evenbetter, I had the nicest
experience with my eye doctor.
I just want I'm not going toname the name, but I just want
to shout out how awesome theoffice was, because I went in
there and I hadn't been therefor a while and there's reasons
(02:56):
for that, and I explained tomyself and they just treated me
with so much compassion andwe're really really nice about
the whole thing.
So in our current climate, it'snice to know there are still
really nice people out there.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You should totally get the glasses I have I'm where
you can change them out andthen maybe sometime we can get.
I should write them a letterbecause I'm like their number
one fan you should.
Maybe they'll sponsor the showI know because, because
currently I have skulls on mine.
And where else can you getglasses with skulls?
Exactly, and you can changethem every day, exactly.
So pair eyewear if you're outthere listening, but yeah, it's
(03:38):
also cool.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
now they just give you your prescription.
I guess, there's so many onlinepeople now and I'm so glad they
do that, because it was alwaysso awkward.
Like I don't want your $600glasses.
Can I please have myprescription?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I had to get the 600 ones the last time before I got
these, because my insurancecovered it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, that's what I did too.
So and my little tax-freehealth card it re-upped on
yesterday.
Oh nice yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So, yeah, I know I have a lot.
I have a lot online and I thinkI need to go back to the.
They keep sending me an email.
I don't know how long I've hadthese A while.
Oh has it, I'm going to get thesame ones though, because then
I can just keep the toppers.
That I have.
I'm telling you, I love thesestupid things new glasses every
day.
Yeah, I love that for myself.
(04:32):
Yeah, uh, what else that was it?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
yeah, I mean just super busy work I forget, we did
watch a movie this week oh, Iwatched dirty dancing the other
night, did you?
Yes, it was very difficult.
It's been a while since I'vewatched it, uh-huh, and I've
become much more informed abouta lot of things since then.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, I heard a thing that said when you were a kid,
you um identified with baby andas an adult you're like why?
Who would let her go out likethat?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
yeah, like her father was not wrong.
So, yeah, a lot of it.
I'm a lot of.
It's problematic, but got thesoundtrack and it's just so
sweet.
It really is, except thatpatrick swayze's 30 and she's 16
, but it's also patrick swayzewho is a saint, so anyway, it
(05:26):
was fun, but that abortion scenewas brutal.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
We haven't gone well.
I don't know if it's out.
It's out this week the JurassicWorld.
I am a huge, okay, Duh yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I like the dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
However, I don't know we I watched I made us watch
about six trailers for itbecause there was one trail that
I saw something and I was like,hold on, that's not a real
dinosaur, what is happening?
And they don't have featherswhy, don't?
They have feathers?
And there is new debate on thet-rex as to whether or not the
(06:08):
t-rex had wings as opposed tothat's why it has little teeny
arms oh yeah, that makes sensepossibly it had wings, but they
didn't put feathers on it.
Why?
Why, we all know they hadfeathers.
At this point, they put thefucking feathers on there.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Must not have looked as good cinematically.
It's all CGI Like it's AI.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
We'll put feathers on it.
Yeah, I don't know, so I can'tdecide because I mean, all the
rest of it looks good, but thenit's this one.
It looks like a cross between adinosaur and an alien.
Like the alien, the alien fromAliens yeah like the alien, the
(06:51):
alien from aliens, yeah, yeah, aface hugger, uh-huh, like the
grown-up face hugger.
When it came out like they showit in one of the clips, like
real quick, and I was like waita minute, that's alien, come on.
As soon as I saw that, I waslike I'm out.
As soon as I saw that I waslike I'm out, yeah, and he was
like really and I was like.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I mean, I have to say I was shocked they released
another one they're just gonnableed.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
That well, I guess yeah, but it's gonna start
getting really tacky I mean,there's only so many times you
could go back to the islandright and get surprised by it
yeah, and the original is justso good oh but I saw a thing
scarlett johansson was talkingabout it and she's been trying
to get in, apparently to thefranchise since she was like a
(07:37):
kid on the first one seriously,it took this long for her to get
in.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
That's what she said.
She's freaking, charlie.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Charlie's the wrong one.
No, oh, what's her face.
Scarlett Johansson.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Oh, her too.
Oh, I love her.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, she's in it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, I always mix those two up too, I know.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So I don't know.
I'm on the fence about it.
You know you're going Becauseyou know, once you start on
YouTube with the new trailersand they just show one right
after another, and then there'sapparently, a new.
Dracula coming out.
Oh, I don't know how I feelabout it.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Who's Dracula?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I don't know.
Oh, it's pre-Dracula.
It's Vlad.
Oh, who's playing that?
I don't know who it was.
I don't know who that dude is.
I don't know who that dude is.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I don't know who these people are.
Yeah, true, I watch award showsnow and I know like 20% of the
people that are on there.
I'm like who is?
That Music and acting.
I'm like I've literally neverheard your name or seen your
face before we finished up the50th anniversary of SNL last
night as a matter of fact.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And I don't remember it was one of the last ones and
I don't remember it was one ofthe last ones and I was like who
is that?
Even when it was I don't knowthe musical guest, some dude
that I don't know and he waslike you know the song?
And I was like I don't know thesong and he was like you know
the song and I was like do theyplay it on TikTok?
And he was like yes, and I waslike okay, well, I don't
(09:01):
remember who he is, though, butI did know the song, but I was
done.
We just fast forward throughthat.
So, yeah, we finished that up.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
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I'll take some boring, alright.
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So now let's fuck around andfind out about breakup songs of
the 80s and 90s so excited I try.
I mean there's a billion, soI've tried to pick out ones that
I like.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Hey, it's your podcast, you get to do what you
want.
Yep, fuck everybody else.
You don't like it too bad.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
All right, what you want, yep, fuck everybody else.
You don't like it too bad, allright.
So the first one I want todiscuss is every breath you take
by the police, which I neveractually thought of as a love
song.
It's definitely a stalker songum, like yeah, I don't know
where they were really goingwith that, but um so anyway.
Every breath you take to thisday is perceived to be a love
song.
However, the lyrics areactually spoken from a character
(10:47):
with sinister intent.
As we said, during the timeSting wrote the song, he had
just divorced his first wife,frances Tomelty.
While his intention may havebeen to write a sweet, emotional
love song from the beginning,he was soon realizing that he
was entering into a dark placethat fought for control and
(11:08):
surveillance.
Being in the midst of the ColdWar at that time did not help
the situation.
So is that a spy song?
Musically, the track features aminimal arrangement.
Sting's bass, stuart Copeland'sdrums and Andy Summers' guitar
round out the basic tracks withadded synths, piano and
(11:30):
recording effects to boost theproduction.
This was at a time where theband were having conflicts on a
regular basis, which almostcaused producer Hugh Padshum to
quit and the recording to cease.
Regardless of the turmoilduring the recording, every
Breath you Take was a worldwidesuccess.
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The music video directed byGodley and Cream even won the
band the first BestCinematography Award at the 1983
MTV Video Music Awards.
The song also stands as thesignature song of the police and
has been played more than 9million times on the radio.
So I do like that song.
(12:11):
It is definitely not thepolice's best song, by far, no,
so I don't agree with that one.
I like Roxanne.
I love Roxanne.
Yeah, I can't even think of.
Well, actually, my favoritesong by the police is even
creepier and it's Don't Stand soClose to Me.
I love that song too, I know,which is about an adult teacher
(12:35):
and a high school girl, Youngteacher, yeah, but the subject
oh, such a good song.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That's how we can sing.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It was also the best-selling single of 1983 and
the fifth best-selling single ofthe 1980s in the United States.
That's crazy talk.
It was not the fifth best songof the 80s.
Winner of the 1984 Best Song ofthe Year and Best Pop
Performance by a duo or groupwith vocals grammy awards.
Uh, number 84 on the rollingstones list of the 500 greatest
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songs of all time.
I don't even know how theycompile that list, like every
time I hear it like usually thetop three, I'm like I could see
where you might think that.
But how do you choose like?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I imagine it's what spent the most time on like data
.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, I'm thinking like emotionally, I think it's
what spent the most time on Likedata.
Yeah, I'm thinking likeemotionally, I think it's
probably just what charted thelongest.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, like I imagine Thriller would be like or Beat
it or Billie Jean or one ofMichael Jackson's songs,
probably at the number one.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I think Michael Jackson's always at least top
three, if not number one, and ittopped the billboard top 100
for eight weeks and the uksingles chart for four weeks I
it's funny because, um ourfriend who has passed, we had a
our secret code which isprobably not so secret.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Uh, whenever a celebrity would die and we
didn't know, like the other one,we would just text the other
one poor Sting, because for awhile it was like all of Sting's
friends were dying, or likeSting was coming out and
speaking on whatever celebritydied.
So for the longest time wewould just text each other like
poor Sting, and then the otherone would have to like struggle
(14:26):
to find out who died and how itwas related to sting I've been
binge watching.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Uh, only murders in the building again.
Uh, I haven't seen the final,the fourth season, but I've
started at the beginning, which,by the way, if you haven't
watched that, it's an amazingshow, um, but stings in the
first season, um, and he's oneof their suspects in the murder
and there's an elevator scenewith him and it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
He's got to be old though.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
He still looks like Sting.
I can imagine.
Yeah, I don't think he ages.
I don't think he does either.
All right, so next, again notmy favorite song by this band,
but it was Not my favorite band.
No, I have said this before.
Yes, you have, even though youcan't tell a reason why I don't
have one.
Okay, so, with or Without you,by U2.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I know every word to every one of their songs.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yes, and I still can't, because it played on the
radio nonstop in the 90s.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I still haven't found what I'm looking for when I'm
listening to U2.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, With or Without you isn't I mean, of course,
it's a classic U2 song.
It was never one of myfavorites again, but With or
Without you was released as thelead single from the album the
Joshua Tree.
It was the band's mostsuccessful single at the time.
It features sustained guitarparts played by guitarist the
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Edge, along with vocals by leadsinger Bono and a bass line by
bassist Adam Clayton.
The song originated from a demorecorded in late 1985.
Love song.
The tracks lyrics were inspiredby bono's conflicting feelings
about the lives he led as amusician and domestic man.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
So where's the love story part in that?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I can't live with or without you yeah, but he said
that the lyrics are actuallyabout how he feels about his
life as a musician and his lifeas a domestic man.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I can only think of the chorus right now.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
When I worked for Grottoes andLewis when I was 18, it was the
summer I graduated high school Iwas a hostess and there was a
cute boy waiter that workedthere but he had a girlfriend
and we would innocently flirtwith each other.
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But he had scored some U2tickets and he came to me one
night and said his girlfriendhated U2 and didn't want to go.
Did I want to go?
Fuck, yeah, I want to go.
So I was so excited.
And then, of course, hisgirlfriend found out and was
like no, fuck, no, oh, fuck no,which I understand.
I just wanted to go see you too.
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I didn't want to cheat, butyeah, so I didn't get to go.
But he did bring me back histicket stubs, which is kind of
lame, but whatever, I guess hehad a crush on me, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Oh restaurant love.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yes, yes, All right.
Next, a song that has been wayoverplayed, but I still just
love, love love it, I love it, Idon't care.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yep, I like the extended version.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Every time it comes on, I will listen to it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yep, so we got Tainted Love by Soft Cell.
So we got Tainted Love by SoftCell.
Soft Cell's 1981 synth pop hitTainted Love is a remake of a
1964 Gloria Jones song.
I did not know that Jones'ssong was a B-side to my Bad Boys
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Comin' Home, a Motown singlethat flopped Must be why I've
never heard of it, and it's ashame that the B-side to that
you know of course that didn'tdo anything.
But then another band comesalong and makes one of the most
popular songs of all time Right,and that's one of the way it
goes.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, although I do like Marilyn.
I struggle with Marilyn Manson.
I know he's a horrible humanbeing.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I know.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I don't know that about him.
He's a horrible human being, ishe really?
Yes, um, just awful, uh, anyway, but you enjoy his music, I do,
yeah, I do.
Unfortunately I do, andunfortunately his cover songs
are some of my favorite covers.
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He knows how to cover a fuckingsong and he covered, he covered
.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
He does a cover of tainted love yeah, and he covers
it in his own way.
It sounds like a marilyn mansonsong.
Personal jesus, he did I meanany of his covers are just
really good yeah I don'tactually know any of the words
to any of his actual songs Iguess I do, but you know the
beautiful people, probably,literally, that's like the only
one, probably.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Okay, that was the only one I could think of.
All right, so I've seen them inconcert.
They opened for nine inch nailsbefore anybody knew who they
were.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So gloria jones.
Tainted love blew up in theuk's northern soul scene in the
70s after british DJ RichardSearling bought a used copy on a
trip to the US.
After Tainted Love got a boostfrom the Northern Soul scene,
gloria Jones recorded a newversion in 1974, but it failed
the chart.
That poor lady, she just wasn'tin the cards for her.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
She's probably getting paid, though, every time
.
Hell yeah, she is.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
When Soft Soul decided to give the song a go in
1981, they changed the key andslowed the tempo.
They worked with producer MikeThorne to create the electronic
arrangement for the song.
Thorne told Sound on Sound, youcould smell the coke on that
second.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
You really can.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Northern Soul version .
It was really so over-red andso frantic.
It was good for the dance floor, but I didn't like the record.
When soft cell performed thesong, I heard a very novel sound
and a very nice voice.
So off we went.
And I also forgot to add in thebeginning that all my
information, almost all myinformation, comes from
geniuscom, with a tiny splash ofwiki splashed in there.
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I try not to use wiki, butsometimes it's a necessary evil.
All right, this song I chosebecause you have to.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
It's like against the law to not.
I mean, it's like thisseriously.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I have a middle school dance story about this
song.
Oh good, so that's why it'shere.
So this one is Total Eclipse ofthe Heart by Bonnie Tyler.
Turn around Every now and thenI get a little.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I'm in so much trouble man.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I had this 45.
And at the very end when shegoes, turn around, bright eyes.
The second time she says thatturn around bright eyes, bright
eyes, bright eyes.
And for decades, every time Iheard that song I heard the skip
at the end.
When we get to it, I haven'theard it in a long time.
Maybe I would still hear theskip, I don't know.
(21:15):
But yeah so anyway.
Total Eclipse of the Heart isthe lead single by Welsh singer
Bonnie Tyler from her fifthstudio album, faster Than the
Speed of Night, in 1983.
It was written and produced byJim Steinman and recorded in
1982, released as a single byCBS slash Columbia in 1983.
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The song, a debut with RoryDodd, became Tyler's biggest
career hit, topping the UKsingles charts and becoming the
fifth best-selling single in1983 in the United Kingdom.
In the United States the singlespent four weeks at the top of
the charts, keeping anotherSteinman-penned song, making
Love Out of Nothing at All byAir Supply, also a great song,
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from reaching the top spot, asong Taylor would later cover in
1995.
And it was Billboard's numbersix song of the year for 1983.
The song was nominated for aGrammy Award for Best Female Pop
Vocal Performance.
Its accompanying music videowas directed by Russell Mulcahy
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and filmed in Surrey, england.
Worldwide, the single has salesin excess of 6 million copies
and was certified gold by theRecording Industry Association
of America for sales of over 1million copies after its release
.
Updated to platinum in 2001when the certification threshold
changed In 2015, the song wasvoted by the British public as
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the nation's third favorite1980s number one in a poll for
itv her other song hold out fora hero.
I mean, oh yeah yeah, what moviewas that?
Was it a tom cruise movie shrek?
It wasn't shrek, but I think itwas also in, like I don't know,
I don't know, maybe not butanyway, my story right.
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So when I was in third andfourth grade I had a boyfriend
named Kenny and Kenny had a twinbrother named Carl.
They were identical twins and Ilived like two blocks from the
school.
And those were the good olddays when you just walked home
from school and there were noparents or teachers or anybody
in sight Right, just were setfree to wander and find your way
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home.
Good luck, yeah.
And they would like follow mebut like hide and my mom always
knew they were coming home withme and they would come home and
come to my house and my momwould like feed us or whatever
and they had the cool DonkeyKong like handheld machine
looking thing.
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So, anyway, we were at a middleschool dance.
I must have stayed with Kennyup until fifth grade.
That would have been middleschool.
That's long term.
It really was.
We were committed.
So, anyway, we were at thedance and Total Eclipse of the
Heart came on and I wanted todance with him.
So bad, and he refused.
So his twin, carl, danced withme, which I thought was so sweet
.
That is very sweet, yep.
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So yeah.
And then another girl, whoturned, ended up being a lesbian
, stole him from me and thenbeat me up in the locker room
after she stole my boyfriend.
But I don't know, crazy middleschoolers.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I have my middle school song.
What I got to dance with mycrush was You're the Inspiration
by Chicago.
I love it.
It's funny how songs that meanlike I mean whatever, but like
that.
Every time I hear that songit's like back in the time zone
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and I get to dance with my crush.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
All all right, I'm setting you up for a plug here.
Don't leave me hanging.
The next song is don't youforget about me.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
By simple minds, go for it, okay uh, if you would
like to listen to the uh episodethat we did on the Breakfast
Club, it's number a few and it'scalled Sincerely Yours, the
Breakfast Club, and it's acouple episodes back.
(25:17):
Apparently, I didn't put anepisode number on that one.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I don't know what I was doing there.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
But yeah, so you should go back and listen to it.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yep, alright.
So.
Written by Keith Forsey andSteve Schiff.
Simple Minds, don't you ForgetAbout Me was released as a
single February 20th 1985, andwas featured as the main theme
of the classic 1985 teen filmthe Breakfast Club, originally
offered to the Fix Brian Ferryand Billy Idol.
Can you imagine Billy Idolsinging that song?
(25:45):
No, me neither.
But all declined, idol did,however, record his own version
years later.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
You can go back and listen and find him.
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I want to.
Forsey then asked Simple Minds,who initially refused but
eventually agreed per suggestionof their label A&M.
It said that the bandrearranged and recorded the song
in three hours and promptlyforgot about it, considering it
was just another song theyrecorded for somebody.
The song would go on to top theUS Billboard Hot 100 chart,
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making it's Simple Minds'biggest hit in the US to date,
because of the breakfast I wasgoing to say.
I mean there's only one reasonthey just lucked out right there
.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
The next one I'm so excited about because it comes
from my favorite 80s movie ofall time.
I don't know why this one's myfavorite, but it is.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I have a fun story about this one too.
So this one is If you Leave byOMD.
Leave by omd, aka orchestralmaneuvers in the dark.
Uh, if you leave is a song bybritish pop synth group
orchestral maneuvers in the dark.
The track was commissioned byjohn hughes to be used in the
final season of his 1986 filmpretty in pink.
The track reached internationalsuccess, managing to enter
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music charts around the world.
In the United States it becamethe group's highest charting
single ever after.
It peaked at number four on theBillboard Hot 100 chart
Alongside their 1980 hit EnolaGay, which is probably my
favorite.
Omd song.
If you Leave is considered tobe one of the band's signature
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songs.
It has had an enduring presenceas one of the most
distinguished and recognizabletracks of the 80s.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I just that movie.
I don't know why I love thatone so much.
I love Ducky.
I mean, yes, of course, I thinkI wanted to be Ducky.
I think you wanted to beMollyucky.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I think you wanted to be Molly Ringwald too, probably
because she makes her own in away she always dress like she
dresses kooky in that one shemakes her own dress and she's
awkward and I know everybody hastalked about how hideous that
dress is.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I liked it yeah.
I like the little piece aroundher neck.
I just like, I liked it.
I like what's little piecearound her neck.
I don't, I just like, I likedit.
I like um.
What's her face in it as herher?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
uh, the lady who worked in the um record store
and that one had the asian kidin it too no what's that
happening?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
that's, that's 16 candles oh that's right, yeah,
no, that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Just I mean, when ducky does and, if you get the
chance, he redoes that on jayleno, jimmy fallon, one of them,
I would probably probably jimmyfallon such a great scene he
does, he redoes it and it is alltime favorite thing.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I loved his creepers.
I wanted his creepers.
I have never had a pair ofcreepers that shocks me I know,
I don't know why I have.
I can't get past, I can't letgo of the docs to put the
creepers on.
Oh yeah, I don't know why Ireally shouldn't be get myself a
pair of creepers, but I neverhad any.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Um, but I mean man, when we get rich off the podcast
, you can buy yourself creepers.
I'm going to buy myself whitecreepers.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I'm going to wear them.
The next one's going to make mesad.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
So no, but my story with OMD is back and I've
mentioned this before.
But if you haven't memorizedall the details of my life so
far, I'll refresh your memory.
What the hell are you?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
doing.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Are you even a fan?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Are you even?
Speaker 1 (29:31):
listening.
But when I was 16, I had a penpal from San Diego, California.
Her name was Shelly and shecame to visit.
She was only like 14, but shewas being raised by her aunt,
and California is just crazy andmuch freer than it is here.
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So they threw her on a planeand sent her across the country
to a stranger's house to stayfor a couple weeks.
Safe the good old days.
But she is the one thatintroduced me to orchestral
maneuvers in the dark.
She brought a cassette with her.
She left it with me Because Iloved it so much and I wore that
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thing out.
So yeah, that's what's funabout.
Music is just so many memoriesare attached to it in so many
ways.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
So take you back to just a second of time, or just
an area like you just knowexactly you can, or just an area
like you just know exactly youcan relive it, you can smell it,
you can.
It is.
It's crazy how that just takesyou back to a time and you know
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everything about like you couldhave not remembered anything
about that for decades.
And then one song, just becausethe next I'll tell you why the
next one will stop me in mytracks every time I hear it.
All right, let's go heather'sgonna bring the room down and oh
lord, are you gonna cry?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
no good, um, I'm on pills for that, oh great.
How's the rage?
By the way?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
much better.
Really it worked.
I yeah, I don't feel like I'mgonna murder anybody well,
that's disappointing, but I'mglad you feel that I, I feel, I,
I don't feel like that.
I really honestly had like ragein my gut, like I could feel it
.
It was a physical symptom and Idon't have that anymore.
I still probably could killsomebody, but I don't feel like
I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I mean you're not going to turn down an
opportunity, never, never will.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I still get very angry, but I can control a
little bit better now.
Okay, good, I'm happy for you.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Thanks, hormones.
Yeah, I love it when medicationworks.
So In your Eyes.
By Peter Gabriel, this songfeatures Senegalese superstar
Yusunador singing through thecoda.
He sings parts of the chorus astranslated in his native Wolof
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Whew, that sentence.
That was a sentence.
That was too.
I should have just deleted thatone out.
Popular lore holds that thissong was written for Rosanna
Arquette, who I love.
I love her too.
I love the whole Arquette clan,and I did not know that.
I know With whom Gabriel livedfor some time in the 80s and
early 90s.
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Gabriel has said that, despitethe fact that the song came to
be exclusively associated withromantic love in popular culture
, he originally wanted to writelyrics that were ambiguously
about both romantic love andlove of God, a blurring employed
in some African music.
This song is famously used forthe classic romantic comedy Say
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Anything.
That was a good one too.
Originally intended as thealbum's closing track, gabriel
instead made it the fifth track,as its placement at the start
of side two would make the bassline sound deeper and fuller,
thanks to the physicalintricacies of vinyl, in which
the turntable needle's velocitydecreases the closer it gets to
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the center of the record,resulting in a higher noise
floor and reduced sound quality,especially in the lower
frequencies.
Good to know, that's yourlittle science lesson for today.
This was also the case on CDand cassette releases, which did
not have this limitation.
The 2002 and 2012 remasters,meanwhile, would restore
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Gabriel's original intentionmaking, in your Eyes, the album
closer across all formats.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
So Heather's sad story about this one.
God, I know it's gonna bringyou down too great.
So because I know you peopledon't memorize- any of our lives
, and I don't even know if I'vetold you this.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
I used to date nicole's brother-in-law I hooked
them up on a new year's Eve.
Yeah, they had a crush on eachother.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And so we watched Say Anything a lot, and I said to
him once that if we ever brokeup, that he was required to
bring his boombox and play thatsong for me.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Try to get you back.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Okay, so sad story real quick.
He died, he did.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Excessively tragically.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Extremely tragically On my watch.
No, oh, I was in Florida.
I didn't kill him.
I was, however, investigated.
Don't tell anybody.
It was his fault.
It was his fault.
It was his fault.
That's why.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I don't drink.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Anyway, more importantly, every time, I don't
care what station it is forstill I can still walk in places
and that song will come in,come on out of nowhere, like it
won't be playing any 80s, it'llbe playing like just the
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weirdest stuff, and then thatsong will drop it.
Song haunts me, it follows me,the fuck around, drives me nuts.
That and my immortal, that one,that one, yeah, I can't even
listen to that one, but yeah, sopeter gabriel follows me around
.
That's gonna make me sad allthe time.
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Fuck you, peter.
Gabriel, you're making me sad,but yeah, it will come on.
I it's so weird.
All the time I can switchchannels and it'll come on, and
then it'll come on again Totallydifferent channel.
Leave me alone, bro.
Right, get a life.
It's been 25 years.
Move on, right, anyway.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Sad story over.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yes and scene All right.
Our next one is NothingCompares to you by Sinead
O'Connor, which is one of theclassic love songs of all time.
That song with no connectionwill make me cry when I listen
to it.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Man, that's a great song.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
And her voice is so perfect for it.
Plus, we love her anyway.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I mean I love Prince and all, but I know it's his
song, but man.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, I can't even fathom him singing it.
And he knew that.
Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
He released it, but it's.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, hers is the love, and I hate it when people
remake it.
I'm like stop, yeah, just stop,you can't.
There are some things thatshould not be remade.
Yeah, like the movie they did,didn't they?
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
I watched that the other nighttoo.
Not the new one, I refuse.
I watched the old one, cow,even though I can recite the
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whole thing.
So anyway, originally writtenand composed by Prince for one
of his side projects, the Family, it was later made famous by
Irish recording artist SineadO'Connor, whose arrangement was
released as the second singlefrom her second studio album.
I Do Not Want what I Haven'tGot, which, by the way, is just
a fucking phenomenal album.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Black Boys on Mopeds.
Oh my God, I love that song somuch, so much.
Anyway, this version, whichO'Connor co-produced with Nellie
Hopper, became a worldwide hitin 1990.
A music video which has beendescribed as iconic was shot and
received heavy rotation on MTV.
That's perfect.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
That's a perfect video too.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
It is.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I mean, just everything about that is
perfection, I know.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I know, although, oh my gosh, talk about a perfect
video.
The other day I was on Spotifyand on the playlist came up and
came on, untitled, by D'Angelo.
Do you know that song?
I don't you do.
I don't.
You don't know me.
Maybe you remember the video hewas.
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It was just him from thetreasure trail up with no
clothes, glistening beautifulblack skin.
No, I don't remember that.
Breeds.
No, talk about fine, yeah,right, anyway, I digress, let's
(38:07):
see.
I digress, let's see.
O'connor stated in a 2019interview that she thought
covering the song would makePrince love her.
However, the results were quitedifferent.
I thought Prince would fall inlove with me and it would all be
lovely, but he was the mostfrightening human I have ever
met in my life, even morefrightening than my mother.
(38:30):
I've heard that about him.
Yeah, I could see that abouthim.
He was very private for as veryfamous as he was.
Very, very weird Yep.
All right, I had to include thenext one because they are from
Philly, motown.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Philly, oh no, back again.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
All right.
So End of the Road by Boyz IIMen, which happens to be one of
my least favorite Boyz II Mensongs.
In this song, one of the boysknow that his time with his girl
is coming to an end, but heisn't ready to let go of her.
And can I just tell you that Iwas today years old when I
realized that that song wasn'tabout a relationship.
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I think I thought that it isabout a relationship.
I think I thought someone hadpassed away.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
That's so hard to say goodbye.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Oh, all right, Thanks for sending me straight.
It's been a busy week.
End of the Road was Boyz IIMen's first ever number one
single, reaching number one onthe Billboard Hot 100 charts for
13 straight weeks, which was arecord at the time.
This song also won two Grammysfor Best R&B Performance by a
duo or group with vocals andBest R&B Song.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
You know, boyz II Men and Belle Beaux De Vaux did an
Eagles halftime show once that Iwas at.
Oh my God, yeah, it was prettyphenomenal.
I mean, I did get to see.
Montel Jordan with you, whichwas a highlight of my life.
I love that song.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
And that's one of those songs.
Every time I hear it I'm like Isaw them.
I mean, I have told anybody whowill listen that I saw him and
they're always like oh really,the.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Bell Bibbed, devoe and Boyz II Men was my standout.
I was a huge.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
BBD, bdd.
Bell Bibbed BBD.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
ABC.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
BBD, anyway.
So East Coast family.
Yeah, I wore out that album, orcassette, anyway.
Next one One of my all-timefavorite singers, all-time
favorite songs, both theoriginal and this one I Will
Always Love you by WhitneyHouston.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
It's so crazy how different, they are, but both
great, so beautiful.
I mean first of all fuckingDolly Parton, I mean.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
She has lived the life.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
She is an amazing human being.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
And her husband's just there.
They're just happy living anormal life.
You do know that she is coveredin tattoos right.
That doesn't surprise me.
That rumor is true.
I didn't know that, but it doesnot surprise me at all.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
She wears all the way down to her fingers.
She always has yes.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Because she's got.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
She's not covered in tattoos but she says she has
quite a few and they don'treally go along with her what
she thinks she should be puttingout there it's like a butterfly
, as I think she does have animage.
Yep, and so she covers them allthe time.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah all right, so let them go dolly, let them go.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
she also has I don't know if you know this, but she
puts out books once a month thatare free to anyone yeah, any
children.
I think anyone can sign up forit.
We deliver them all the time.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I knew she had a children's book thing going on.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Every once a month, I believe it is, or every couple
weeks, I know.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, that's a really awesome cause.
Yeah, I Will Always Love youwas covered by Whitney Houston
and recorded for her 1992 film,the Bodyguard.
The song was originally writtenby Dolly Parton and released on
June 6, 1974.
I was a wee little one-year-oldas the second single from her
13th solo studio album Jolene,of course the best, dolly Jolene
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, jolene, jolene, jolene, ofcourse the best, jolene jolene,
jolene, jolene.
It's such a good song, I know,please don't take away my man.
Um houston's cover has sincebecome one of the best-selling
singles of all time andcontributed to the bodyguard
being the top-selling soundtrackof all time.
See, this is where the singercarried the movie, rather than
the movie carrying the song.
Um, that drop, oh god, yeah, oh, I just got goosebumps.
(42:36):
You've been thinking about itthat's the.
I mean, yeah, that that yeah,definitely, and her voice, the
range crazy.
Um, let me see.
Uh, kevin costner, houston'smale opposite and one of the
film's co-producers, is actuallyresponsible for suggesting this
song for Houston to cover inthe film's first track release.
(42:59):
He brought the original song tocomposer David Foster, who
rearranged it as a pop balladfor Houston.
It topped the Billboard Hot 100for 14 consecutive weeks,
beating out Boyz II Men's 13weeks.
At the time, this was therecord for the longest number
one.
It also reached number three onthe Hot 100 after Houston's
(43:20):
death in 2012.
It's so sad.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
That is so sad.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Bobby Brown just ruined her.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I don't know there's a documentary on her, and it
wasn't just him.
Yeah, her family did that toher too.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Like her.
Yeah, that's what she did.
So next, I chose this onebecause another cassette tape
that I wore out.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
We were just talking about her.
I don't think that she has everdone anything wrong?
Speaker 1 (43:54):
No she is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I mean Stunning, stunning, yes, yeah, her voice
Probably prettier than she is,if that's even fucking possible.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Right.
So we're talking about Walkingon Broken Glass by Annie Lennox.
Annie Lennox fans willnaturally wonder if Walking on
Broken Glass refers to her long,treacherous love affair with
her ex-arhythmics partner, davidStewart.
Walking on Broken Glass is thethird single by Annie Lennox
that appears off her 1992 soloalbum, diva.
(44:27):
It was written by Lennoxherself and produced by Stephen
Lipson.
The song was a major commercialsuccess, reaching number one in
Canada, number eight in theUnited Kingdom and Ireland and
number 14 in the United Statessingle charts.
The song's theme of scornedlove inspired a classic music
video Director Sophie Mullerpulled from period films
(44:50):
depicting the late 18th century,including Dangerous Liaisons
and Amadeus.
Lennox plays an aristocraticlady trying to regain attention
from a former lover, played byJohn Malkovich, the star of
Dangerous Liaisons.
Lennox's other love interest isplayed by Hugh Laurie.
The future house star playedPrince George on the TV comedy
(45:14):
Blackator, blackadder,blackadder, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
I love Hugh Laurie.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah, and that album was also featured in the Demi
Moore movie Striptease.
Did you ever see that movie?
I did.
I don't remember that.
Well, I remember it becausethat's when I was bartending in
that movie theater that was out,so I've seen it like a thousand
times.
But when she strips, she dancesto Annie Lennox songs from that
album.
(45:39):
It's really good.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
You know what song is ?
Just, I mean a love song fromVampire.
Have you ever?
Speaker 1 (45:46):
heard that On your way home.
Google it Okay, len.
Have you ever heard that Onyour way home?
Google it Okay.
Lennox recalled this was awonderful video to create.
There were some wonderfulpeople involved John Malkovich
and Hugh Laurie before he had anAmerican accent, that was
tremendous fun.
The idea of it being a periodpiece like Les Lésions
Dangereuses.
Thank you Close enough.
(46:06):
I would have read it with aSpanish accent, just like I did.
You're French.
You can speak French, leslaisiers dangereux.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Thank you, close enough.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I would have read it with a Spanish accent, just like
I did when I took French incollege.
Lennox saw a parallel betweenthe film, where a noble woman
plots to take revenge against anunfaithful lover, and this song
.
The alternative title forBroken Glass could easily have
been hell hath no more fury thana woman's.
(46:33):
No, that's not the way you sayit.
Hell hath no more fury than awoman.
I thought it was.
Hell hath no fury than a woman.
I'm sure that I don't thinkmore goes in there?
I think it probably does, andthen we americans just well, I
don't want to say that a womanscorned is just like hell.
She's worse than hell, so Idon't want the more in there
(46:55):
right, but it's hell hath nomore.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
So hell is not as furious.
All right, we're just going toagree to disagree.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Uh, the video is very wry and tongue-in-cheek.
People can take me a littleseriously sometimes, but I do
actually have a rather radicalsense of humor.
I bet she does.
I bet she has a really darksense of humor.
I bet she does.
She's probably just like us.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
I want to know her so bad.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Alright, so the final one we can't do 80s 90s music
without the Britney Spears ohbaby.
Baby one more time.
I just can't watch Britney'svideos anymore.
So sad.
I want to support her, but sheis such a wreck I know she
(47:43):
breaks my heart.
It's awful.
Anyway, I digress Baby onedigress Baby One More Time
attained global success,reaching number one in nearly
every country it charted in.
It also received numerouscertifications around the world
and is one of the best sellingsingles of all time, with over
18 million copies sold.
(48:04):
Whenever I hear copies soldaround the world, it just
doesn't sound like that much.
All the billions of people inthe world and only 18 million
bought it.
Yeah, like you would think, inthe United States, out of 350
million, there would be 18million that would buy it.
True, I don't know, thosenumbers just never sound that
big to me.
Maybe that was Beckman.
Maybe they sell like 50 billionnow.
(48:25):
This song is the first track onBritney's debut studio album of
the same name.
It was released as the leadsingle of the album on October
23rd 1998.
It was originally written forTLC, which wouldn't have been
bad either, but they turned itdown.
It earned Spears a Grammynomination for Best Female Pop
(48:48):
Vocal Performance In January2025,.
It amassed one billion streamson Spotify, joining its Billions
Club.
After Spears' Toxic and I don'tcare for Toxic I like.
Toxic.
I never really got why it wasso popular.
I like it.
Similarly, the music videoreached the milestone on YouTube
because she's a child in aCatholic schoolgirl outfit.
(49:10):
Yep, anyway, from Charlie XCX1999 to Anne Marie's 2002,
spears.
Spears influence is notorious,as notorious as her song
continues to be referenced it'suniversal desire to quench
loneliness.
Spears confessional vocals andthe distinguishable piano riff
(49:31):
have made the single transcendgenerations, crowning it a pop
classic.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Never was I mean, I don't mind.
I don't mind, it's Britneybitch.
I don't mind Britney.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Never was a.
I was never a huge fan, butI've always tried to be
supportive, because her wholelife has just been a train wreck
.
And now, oh god, those videosare terrible.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I can't believe that you did not put oh, no one.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Cure song.
Yes, you know what?
Speaker 2 (50:02):
And I'm actually so mad at myself right now because
while I was Because you didn'tput Love fucking Song on there.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Because while I was creating this, I was like I have
to put a Cure song in here.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Heather will kill me and well, I'll just tell you go
for it, love song by the cureit's a love song it is written
by robert smith for his wifemary mary, um which, so I don't
know why, but I mean I guess Iknow why because it's my
algorithm on everything, butlike the cure, shit has been
(50:32):
popping out left and right forme.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
It comes up on mine a lot too.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
I belong to a lot of goth groups?
Speaker 1 (50:38):
I don't.
Are they making some sort ofcult comeback?
Well, they just had a new albumcome out.
I knew they had a new albumcome out and they just toured,
which I should have gone.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
I heard it was amazing.
I was so hesitant because I sawthem outside once and I hated
every second of it because theyare not good outside.
It was terrible.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Because their music is synth music.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Although we saw Depeche Mode outside and that
was good.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Yeah, but they put on a fucking good show.
I don't care who you are, ifyou ever get the chance to see
Depeche Mode go.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
They do put on one hell of a good show.
Yes, it is a good time, fromthe beginning to the end.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
And you know all the words.
Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
It's a yeah.
I know you could have put likehome.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
Trust me, I could have made this a 10 hour episode
.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Depeche Mode.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Anyway, another time we will make Love Song.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Another one Love depeche mode.
Um, anyway, another time wewill make um love song.
Another one was written to hiswife, mary, and they have been
married man it's it's like 40years now, and these were
actually breakup songs oh yeah,so they didn't break up.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Thank god okay I'm sure there is one that will make
your boys on the cure.
Boys, don't cry, love cats.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
No.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
We should do.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
I love the cure I have.
I have been on it.
Well, I was on a Guns N' Roseskick for a couple minutes and I
just couldn't get enough.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Paradise City's my jam.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Mr Brownstone, yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
And even every rose has its thorn, it's a really
pretty song no, it's poison.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
It's poison okay is it yes, it's poison either way,
it's all the same.
Don't say that, and I loveeverything by motley crew and
home, sweet home, is motley crewand I would have sex with tommy
lee.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
they they were supposed to be here.
They get all the STDs he has.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
They were here.
They were supposed to be herein Ocean City.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah, I remember that .
Speaker 2 (52:39):
They dropped out, and who picked up for it?
Rage Against the Machine.
They had to drop out, and soRob Zombie took their place.
I know I was so sad because Ididn't get to go.
I was like, well, I would havegone for rob fucking zombie.
Yeah, I love rob zombie.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
I don't, I love his movies.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
I don't care if they're just a showcase to show
off his wife's ass.
He does have a hot wife and shehas a really nice ass.
And I don't know if youremember the tv show cribs oh
yeah, mntv, they did a cribs, ohgod, oh, I wanted to live there
.
Of course you did.
First of all, did you know thatrob zombie and tim burton are
(53:22):
friends and tim burton came overand painted a mural in their
kids room shut the fuck up, Iwill.
And so I was like I want tolive there.
And they had a pool, but theyhad done nothing with the pool,
so it was all like grown overand green and he was like, yeah,
we don't use the pool.
(53:43):
But oh man, that house was justeverything that's probably
exactly what you want.
Exactly, I probably would havethe pool, though, but it would
be covered, and indoor.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
I don't really see Rob Zombie floating around a
pool, although it would be kindof cute, one of those long rafts
with his drink and his cupholder you should look up goths
in non-goth places.
I think I've seen that.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
It's freaking hilarious.
And then there's another one.
It's um, it's the grim reaper,and they have him in different
and he's like floating around ina um is that the guy on um
instagram?
Speaker 1 (54:21):
yes, yeah, I've been following him for years, like at
the beach and he's on thelifeguards yes, and then he's
when he's amazing in the littlepool floaty that's a pink
flamingo yes, and he's in hislittle pool floaty that's a pink
flamingo.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
Yes, and he's in his little Grim Reaper.
He's the best he really is.
That's it.
That's good, that was reallygood, thanks.
I guess we can just remove thecure because it is not a breakup
.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yeah, I'll do one about love songs one time and I
promise to include the cure.
Well, I mean, we should just doa, okay, um, oh yeah, do an
episode on the cure for sure.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
But yeah, and and that's on you my dad calls
depeche mode chepesmo.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
We should really do an episode on chepesmo, because
we well, there you have the nameof the episode.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
We have, we have been to many, many, many, so many so
many yeah, we should have goneto this loud.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
They just toured too, I know my first husband was a
like he thought he was davegahan.
He did sound.
He I was going to say he didcould sing.
He had a band, uh, for a minute, um, but he would force his
voice to sound like dave gahan.
I don't know what his voiceactually sounds like, but that's
(55:33):
what he was trying to mimic andhe was very good at it, very
good yeah.
So literally anytime they werearound Giving him credit for
that, but yes, yeah, that was alittle painful, but I'm
practicing kindness, creditwhere credit is due.
Yes, yep, I should have thoughtof that one when I went to
parenting classes after thedivorce and they were like, come
(55:54):
up with like five good thingsto say about your ex.
And I was like I literallycan't come up with one.
And they were like, no, theywere trying to teach you to have
nice things to say about themto your children.
I just chose to not sayanything at all about him to my
children.
But I was like no, like no,seriously, I can't.
And then I started like goingthrough things, like trying to
figure it out, and the one dudelooks at me and he goes man, he
(56:15):
sounds like an asshole.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
I was like, well, yeah that's why I'm here and
seeing yeah, yeah, well, we we.
The last time we went to seedepeche Mode I won those tickets
.
You did.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
On the radio.
On the radio, and that was likeat the tail end of winning
tickets on the radio.
I don't know if they do thatanymore.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
I don't know I wouldn't listen to the radio.
I couldn't even tell you.
But I was imagine that I wasevery caller.
I remember that every number.
Finally the guy was like okay,like yeah, I don't know why you
should give me nobody's calling.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
That was the time we went to DC and the president was
coming through right, oh yeah.
And we got stuck in traffic.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
It was George W.
I would think it wasn't Obamaor Clinton.
It wasn't Clinton.
It was in the 2000s.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
Was it?
I guess we were in college whenClinton was around.
It might have been George.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
W, it wasn't Obama.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
We would remember if we were like oh my God, obama
was driving by.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
Now that Biden was president, kind of saw that a
lot, but he lives here.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
He spends a lot of vacation time here.
I'm just excited that we get apresidential library now.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
I know.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
It's so cool.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
Well, are they going to put it in Wilmington, I guess
, or up that way, I'm sure theywill.
It would be nice if they put itwhere Hoban.
That's where all the fancystuff is.
Speaker 1 (57:44):
That's where they really should put it.
He loves to be there.
Yeah, they won't.
That property is too valuable.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
Property is ridiculous.
Anyway, that's the adultportion of our.
How much property has gone uphere?
That's a whole differentpodcast, so you can Well first
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Thank you so much.
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(58:14):
One other thing I was on, sowe're in all these Facebook
groups right that talk aboutpodcasting so I can learn things
, and everybody is like it takesme four hours to edit and I'm
like am I doing something wrong?
Because it literally takes mehowever long the episode is.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
Our listeners are probably like yeah, we can tell.
Yeah.
Y'all suck, because I literallywrote this an hour before I
came down here.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Well, I guess people get so like hung up on the ums
and the ands, but it'sconversation.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
I mean, I do cut some of it out.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
I don't know I say some dumb shit.
Sometimes you gotta cut outwell, and then we stop it right.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
So it's not like we continue and let it roll, like
just stop it.
Yeah, because we did get, notthat you all care, but that's
funny, we used to whisper it toeach other.
We need to stop.
We figured out that we don'tneed to whisper.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
Well, I think what I mean we're just one and done.
We're not going to rehearse,we're not going to go back and
be like I think we need to.
No, fuck that, you get what youget.
You don't like it, buthopefully you like it.
I hope you like it, even ifHeather doesn't care.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
I do care deeply, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
I don't care, I do, I do care deeply.
I'm just saying I don't careabout editing, right, I just
pause it.
I know, and all these likepodcasting people bug us on, oh
my god socials.
God, it's the absolute word.
It's.
The worst part about having apodcast is all the messengers I
can boost your buh, buh, buh,buh.
Dude, seriously, we are sittinghere at a card, folded card
table with two laptops, two $50microphones yeah, and we just
(59:58):
busted this out Like what youheard is what we did.
We did not like redo anything.
Ai does the rest.
So, yeah, we don't want to payanyone to do this because we're
just not not, we're not fancyyet so back to like share rate
review.
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Um, if you want to contributeto us, we do have a buy me a
coffee.
It's like whateverbuymeacoffeecom slash, like
whatever, I think that's a lotof like whatever's in the title
like whatever pod too yeah,anyway, you're never gonna find
it.
But you can, if you just go buyme a coffee and then just search
(01:00:36):
, yeah, like whatever, whatever,hopefully don't then fuck you
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