January 3, 2025 • 64 mins
Ever wondered how the arcade adventures of the Gen X era compare to the digital journeys of Generation Alpha and Beta? Join us as we reminisce about our teenage years filled with tokens and joysticks and explore how today's youth navigate the complex world of social media, online bullying, and self-worth. We promise you'll not only gain insights into these generational shifts but also enjoy a few laughs with stories of Nate Bargatze's clean humor and the charming innocence of his daughter's social media attempts.
Get ready for a splash of adrenaline as we recount thrilling tales from the world of extreme sports. Meet a fearless surfer dad whose passion for adventure took him from the pounding waves of California and Hawaii to the snowy slopes after a life-changing accident. You'll be amazed by the story of a young surfer conquering a 108-foot wave, offering a breathtaking glimpse into the daring sport where nature's power meets human tenacity.
Reflect on the remarkable life of former President Jimmy Carter, whose journey from a humble peanut farm to the Oval Office is nothing short of inspiring. We celebrate his humanitarian efforts, including his hands-on work with Habitat for Humanity and his literary achievements. Alongside heartwarming anecdotes and intriguing fun facts—including his alleged UFO sighting—this tribute captures Carter's steadfast dedication to public service, community values, and a legacy that transcends the political arena. #wwjd #genx #80s #90s
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Two best friends.
We're talking the past, frommistakes to arcades.
We're having a blast.
Teenage dreams, neon screens,it was all rad and no one knew
me Like you know.
It's like whatever.
Together forever.
We've never done this, everLaughing and sharing our stories
.
Clever, we'll take you back.
(00:25):
It's like whatever.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Welcome to Like Whatever a podcast for by and
about Gen X.
I'm Nicole and this is my BFFF,heather Bonjour.
So something I learnedyesterday I was scrolling
through Instagram and it saidthat Generation Beta starts
(00:53):
January 1st 2025.
And I didn't even realize therewas a Generation Alpha, but
there was.
So I have a little bit oftidbits here to fill you in,
since we are gen x, and that iswhat we talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I don't know about any other generations but myself
yep.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So, uh, the gen alpha obviously has things that they
know they went through, and genbeta is what they think they're
going to probably go through.
So, um, generation alpha goesfrom 2010 to 2024.
They were the first to be bornentirely in the 21st century.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That's so fucking weird, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
crazy.
Remember when we were partyinglike it was 1999, in like 83?
Yeah, sure do.
They are children ofmillennials which is crazy
because millennials seem likebabies.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
How are they even having children?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
uh, they were born at a time of falling fertility
rates around much of the world.
That's weird.
Yeah, I guess we're alldeciding we have too many people
on this planet maybe like, likenot yeah, that's when I first
read it I was thinkinginfertility but it just says
falling fertility rates.
Maybe it's just people arehaving less babies, but I
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probably should have looked intothat more.
But anyway, if you're listeningto this and you care, go look
it up.
So they experienced COVID-19pandemic as young children,
which is crazy.
Can you imagine having gonethrough that when you were a kid
?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
The whole last four years just seem weird.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's like stuff that happened before COVID and after
COVID.
Now it's it's really becauselike really 2020 to 2022,
nothing happened.
Like no, it was really just ablur.
Like nothing was happening.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I know, and then 20, it's just, I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Right.
So either it happened in thepast year or two or it happened
before we had to wear masks.
But other than that, pre andpost masks, yeah.
And so also the GenerationAlpha.
Their entertainment isincreasingly dominated by
electronic technology and socialnetworking.
Yes, definitely the socialnetworking, yeah, that's just a
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whole nother level bullying like.
Can you imagine?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
when you left school it didn't stop because I mean,
you could still access you soI'm not going to give my total
opinion on this, but um, fromsomebody who was bullied quite a
bit, right uh, and because I ama gen xer and I'm just like
fuck everybody else, right, fuckyour feelings, um, I don't know
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to me, just turn it off.
Just turn it off, right, likemy stepdaughter right is having
some issues and I'm just likejust block it, like wait I do
understand your point of view,but I also.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I mean that's their lifeline and I get that.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So that's, that's where I like I'm torn because
but you can block people who arebothering you and still talk to
people that you like, exactly,and and like when I was a kid, I
could not block those peoplebecause I had to see them every
day and I had to be in personwith them and you can't block.
I mean, I did eventually blockone of them, but you know that
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was an illegal block Right 15yards, but it's so hard to
because I knocked her ass out tothe floor.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'm so proud of you.
Yeah, so yeah.
But like I work with highschool students and it's just
crazy Like shit starts on socialmedia the night before and
those kids show up at school 7am fighting Like 7 o'clock in
the morning man, I don't know, Ithink it's just maybe because I
just never cared like that much.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So if I get bullied online, I'm just like okay.
You know, I never really caredlike that much.
So if I get bullied online, I'mjust like okay.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You know, I just really I never really cared,
yeah, but it sucks because, likeyour whole, I feel like for a
lot of them their wholeself-worth is based on, for sure
, what they look like and whatthe filter does, and you know
how many likes they get, howmuch.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Sephora they get, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, I was.
What was I listening to?
Oh, um, there's a?
Um comedian, nate bargazy.
Have you heard of him?
Yes, or borgetzi I think isright.
Um, I love him.
Have you listened to him?
I haven't really, but he'scompletely clean.
He does not cuss.
He is a good old boy fromtennessee.
He can't even fathom cussingand having his parents hear it,
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so like he is totally clean.
But he is hilarious and he wastalking about his daughter.
She's like.
I think he said she's likeeight or 11, something in there.
And so she's into YouTube andwatching kids play with toys on
videos and and watching likepeople's TikTok stuff.
And he said that you know theydon't let her have social media.
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But he said on his phone alonehe has like a good billion hours
of her like okay, guys, likesubscribe, like creating videos,
but only he sees them.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Right, right.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But it's nuts Like.
I'm so glad, like my kids I.
I actually was looking throughuh facebook memories the other
day and um christmas time and mygirl's first ipod touches I saw
, I saw you posted that yeah andlike that was so special and.
But I didn't have to deal withlike and when my kids, when they
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got phones it was still fairlynew so I could take their like
kids will fucking kill theirparents to get their phones now,
but you know, when you go tobed I take the phone, you know,
and now kids are up all nightlong on their phones at all
kinds of ages.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I mean, you know, it's just.
It's just one of those thingswhere it's just because you can,
doesn't mean you should withtechnology.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And just because your kid throws a fit doesn't mean
you should just let them have it.
It's a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
You're the adult.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, they're the child.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
But I mean, if you can't even put your own phone
down, like Right you know.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
What example are you setting for them?
Yeah, that's exactly right.
All right, so Generation Betawill start tomorrow.
Oh Yep, these kids will grow upin a technology-driven world of
artificial intelligence,autonomous transportation and
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immersive digital experiences.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You know the fact that these kids, when they hit
16, will probably not know howto drive a car.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It's crazy, right.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I was thinking that when I wrote this, I was like
driver's ed is going to becomeobsolete.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, you won't have to have a driver's license.
No, you just have to be able topay attention.
Exactly.
Well but they can't even dothat.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
They will be raised by millennials and older Gen Z
parents, many of whom prioritizeadaptability, equality and
eco-consciousness, which willhopefully result in this new
generation being more globallyminded, community focused and
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collaborative.
Now that's all sounds veryhopeful to me.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
But, it's just yeah, I don't know.
I feel like every like we'rebecoming less community focused
and more Well, because you know,well yeah no-transcript.
(08:49):
Instagram and that was my firstreal exposure to that happening
.
But they're like real friends,like yeah, that's them and that.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I guess that's just it.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You know they're real friends and yeah, and some of
them even live kind of locally,but they still don't know each
other in real life.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
No it's weird, it and and you know, and then you just
you see other people livingtheir lives on facebook and and
then it's just like, well,that's what's supposed to happen
.
But it's all lies.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Like it's all just lies you can put on any front
you want they always say themore that someone is pushing
their relationship on facebook,the worse the relationship 100%.
Yeah, look how happy we are.
So what about you?
Do you have any good stuff totalk about this week?
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Before we get into the topic.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I did so.
My dad was a server.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Right, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, so my dad was a surfer, right, I remember that,
yeah, and he where did it go?
He has surfed in Hawaii andCalifornia and stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And then he had Did he ever tell any stories about
any big waves?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
He had the shit beat out of him in California because
the waves were bigger.
Well, first of all he was tooold, yeah, so he went with a
younger one of the guys that weworked with, that's always a bad
idea, yeah.
I think he was like this kid waslike 20, 21, somewhere in there
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, and my dad was, you know, 40.
And I know that the waves wereparticularly big when they went
Because they specifically wentat a certain.
I guess there's a certain timewhere California's waves are
bigger and it's really cold.
The water's really cold.
In California it's much colderthan here.
I don't think it gets real warmlike it does here here.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I don't think it gets real warm like it does here, um
so, and they probably went inthe winter also, I don't know,
because you had a restaurant.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah so, and they both worked there, yeah, so
it would have had to be in thewinter anyway.
Um, so yeah, he got the shitbeat out of him and I think and
that was one of the uh.
He went to Hawaii after thatbecause he had one of his old
surfing buddies lives in Hawaiihe has since passed away, but he
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lived in Hawaii for a very longtime.
So my dad went out to visit him, my mom and dad went out to
visit him and he surfed while hewas there.
I think that was probably thelast time he surfed after his
accident.
He can't lift his arm up so hehe can't surf anymore, he can't
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golf anymore the motorcycleaccident.
Yeah, the motorcycle he, uh, hecan't raise his arm like he
can't.
He couldn't paddle and he, hecan't swing a golf club anymore.
So, yeah, so he's, he didn't,he, uh, he didn't.
He doesn't surf anymore, he'stoo old for it now.
But, um, yeah, he, uh, he didsurf.
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I don't think he surfed real,real big ones, but and I know
that california kicked his ass,but I don't remember how big
they were because you know hereit's, you know, if a storm rolls
in, then they're 10 foot mayberight beyond that, you might get
yeah to surf.
His.
His thing was skiing.
He still ski.
He does still ski.
Wow, yeah, and he skis um.
(12:19):
He is a very good skier.
Like he could ski.
I don't know that he.
I know he's been to um Utah andMontana park, uh, wherever the
big mountains are I don't skithose big snowy mountains.
Yeah, uh, he's been and I thinkhe's done those where I don't
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think he's done the helicopterdrop ones.
But I know he's been on somevery rugged where it's like not
a lot of people can ski.
He's very good at skiing prettycool.
Yeah, he's, he's all rightanyway.
Right.
So the big wave?
Um, there is a competition andit can only happen every once in
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a while.
In Hawaii it's the Big WaveChallenge and it's after this
one surfer who died.
He drowned saving other people.
I forget the whole story of it,but it's named after him and he
only surfed big waves.
So this competition?
They just had it.
(13:22):
They haven't had it in a coupleyears.
The waves have to be over 40feet in order to surf it, so
they did just have it a while, alittle bit ago, but I saw this
A 23-year-old rode a 108-footwave.
That's like tsunamis, dude that?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
oh my God, that sounds like.
I'm not scared of the ocean,but that sounds terrifying.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, he is.
It's going to go down.
They're trying to confirm it,but it's, it will have.
It will go down in the recordbook.
The current record is 86 feetwhich is insane.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, cause I jumped off a 50 foot cliff once when I
was um whitewater rafting and Iclosed my eyes because I'm
terrified of heights, and I fellfor long enough that in my head
I was like I should have hitthe water by now.
I must be dead, and so I can'teven fathom what that, what,
(14:24):
what, being that high on asurfboard with a crashing wave
around you?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
It says it's not only incredible for its size but
also for its perfect barrelingshape.
So it was like a beautiful.
I saw pictures of it.
It is the nice looking, if youknow, if you're into that.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It is a nice looking wave.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah.
Yeah, that's pretty crazy yeahhe, it says he expertly.
Okay, he rode the entire waveface.
He expertly carved a gracefulline from the top of the wave to
the bottom and then turned intoa colossal barrel before safely
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exiting out the beastly wavesshoulder man that must have felt
so good.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Can you imagine how good that felt when he popped
out the other side?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I just it.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
The the thing is, and it does my moment in there
where you're like well, I don'tknow, surfers are crazy.
They probably don't think aboutdying no but yeah that would be
nuts it's.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
It.
Is it the way if you, if youall get a chance to look at it,
you should look at this hundredfoot?
No, but yeah, that would benuts.
It is the way.
If you all get a chance to lookat it, you should look at this
100-foot wave that this kidsurfs.
I mean, it's insane.
Yeah, that's awesome.
I don't.
It scares me.
Yeah, the ocean is scary.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
The older I get, the scarier it gets.
100%.
All right, so let's get intothis week's topic.
So well, I'll start it with.
Let's fuck around and find outabout former president and
lifelong humanitarian, jamesEarl Carter Jr, which I didn't
realize.
He shared a name with JamesEarl Jones and that's pretty
cool too, but anyway.
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But we decided, you know, withwith his passing this week that
um, we wanted to do an episodeon his accomplishments and his
long life of um human just beinga good human.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
He really was.
You know and I don't knowbecause we were so you know, so
young when he served.
I don't, and I clearly I didn'tgive two shits about politics
when, I was five, but I don'tthink he gets a lot of credit
for.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
But an episode or two ago we talked about good
Christians and he was one ofthose you weren't praying for.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Because if anybody had that connection, he did.
He seemed like a good man.
He did for sure, because he, he, if anybody had that connection
, he did.
He seemed like a good man, hedid.
Um, so jimmy carter, otherwiseknown as james earl carter jr,
was the 39th president of theunited states.
He was born october 1st 2024 Iknow, 1924 he died in 2024 in
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the small farming town of plains, georgia, and grew up in the
nearby community of archery.
His father, james Earl CarterSr, was a farmer and businessman
, and his mother, lily GordonCarter, was a registered nurse.
So he comes from good stock,yes, good people.
He was educated in the publicschool of planes, attended
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Georgia Southwestern College andthe Georgia Institute of
Technology and received a BSdegree from the United States
Naval Academy in 1946.
In the Navy he became asubmariner, serving in both the
Atlantic and Pacific fleets andrising to the rank of lieutenant
.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
See, I did not know.
I guess I just really didn'tknow much about Carter before
he's.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I agree.
Like I knew he was a good human, I knew he only served one term
.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I knew you know the later in life stuff like the
things we've heard about lately.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
But yeah, I learned a lot doing this, so this was fun
.
So he was chosen by admiralhyman rickover for the nuclear
submarine program and he wasassigned to schenectady, new
york, where he took graduatework at union college in reactor
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technology and nuclear physicsand served as senior officer of
the pre-commissioning crew ofthe seawolf, the second nuclear
submarine I mean really, whoknew?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I'm sorry, that just blows my mind.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I mean, I did not expect jimmy carter to have been
a nuclear right, wait till Iget to the part where he's a
rock and roll fan, like seriousokay I didn't read this, guys.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna find out with you crazy, all
right.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
So, inspired by postcards from his uncle, tom
gordy, I made sure to spacethose out, so I wasn't saying
and I'm about to make him lookbad.
Carter decided to join the navyat a young age.
After completing two years atgeorgia southwestern college and
the georgia institute oftechnology, carter enrolled in
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the us naval academy inannapolis, maryland, and he
graduated in the top 10 of hisclass in 1946.
He also did not becomevaledictorian of his high school
, and I have a little tidbitabout that later too oh snap.
So in the Navy Carter completedtwo years of surface ship duty
and then he went into thesubmarine service which I talked
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about earlier.
So he was on the USS Seawolf.
However, when the senior Carterfell ill and so his dad died in
1953, jimmy returned to planesto take over the family business
right um.
On july 7th 1946 he marriedrosalind smith of planes.
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They're just the cutest littlethings yeah, oh my gosh, they
were so cute.
I cannot believe he made it aslong as he did after she went.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I know Well.
He was in hospice for a year.
He was trying to get to her.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
The doctors were too good.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I think he's got to have the record for the longest
time in hospice.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, you know, I read that he lived long enough
to vote for Kamala, but not longenough to have to live through
another.
Yeah, anyway, I lost my place,but not long enough to have to
live through another.
Anyway, he quickly became aleader of the community, serving
on county boards supervisingeducation, the hospital
authority and the library.
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In 1962, he won election to theGeorgia Senate.
He lost his first gubernatorialcampaign.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You're a goober.
You're a goober, your mom.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Don't tell her.
I said that In 1966, but wonthe next election, becoming
Georgia's 76th governor, onJanuary 12, 1971.
Two years before I was born.
He was the Democratic NationalCommittee campaign chairman for
the 1974 Congressional andgubernatorial.
I was born, he was theDemocratic National Committee
campaign chairman for the 1974congressional and gubernatorial
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elections.
Easy for you to say, all right.
So that's just a little basicbackground on him.
So now we're going to talkabout President Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Wait, hold up, okay.
First, I just did learn aboutthis this week and I went on the
Google Because I did not knowthis about him.
I learned this on thetickety-tock oh, mm-hmm.
So he first of all, did youknow that there was some kind of
meltdown in Canada?
You didn't, I didn't.
(21:39):
Nuclear reactive I don't.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I don't think I did.
Let me find it.
Is it, is it I?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
don't.
I don't think I did.
Let me find it.
Is it so?
When Canada's Chalk RiverNuclear Research Facility
experienced a power surge thatdamaged its reactor, the US sent
Carter and his team.
He was one of the few people inthe world who could do it.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Was he president.
Yet no.
Or was that just from hisskills, that's, from prior to I?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
doesn't say what year it was, but I Probably while he
was in the military.
Oh, he was 28.
Okay, so he was 28.
He was still in the Navy.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Okay.
Oh, so he was really high up inthe Navy, then yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
So they sent him fuel .
Rods at the research reactorexperienced a partial meltdown
after the power surge.
It ruptured the reactor andflooded the facility's basement
with radioactive water,rendering the reactor core
unusable.
So in his autobiography A FullLife Reflections at 90, he
described the incident and hispreparations for repairing the
reactor reactor.
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They built an exact replica ofthe reactor true to the last
detail, except for the nuclearmaterial on a nearby tennis
court to practice and tracktheir progress.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
That sounds like Ocean's Eleven.
When they planned to rob thevault, yeah, and they rebuilt
the vault.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
So him and 22 other team members were separated into
teams of three and lowered intothe reactor for 90 second
intervals to clean the site.
I know know it was estimatedthat a minute and a half was the
maximum time humans could beexposed to the levels of
radiation present in the areaand the man lived to be 100 yeah
, right that's insane.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
He was a superhero?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I really.
He maybe that's what.
Yeah, oh, he says we werefairly well instructed then on
what nuclear power was, but forabout six months after that I
had radioactivity in my urine.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Oh, that sounds painful.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, they let us get , and he still lived to 100.
That's insane.
They let us get probably athousand times more radiation
than they would now.
It was in the early stages andthey didn't know.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Shit.
You look back on those peoplelike George Burns Was that his
name?
Yeah, that drank martinis andsmoked their whole lives and
you're like damn, he still lived, but this dude was fucking
radioactive.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
They said the exposure was especially
dangerous for him because he hasa family medical history of
cancer.
His father had pancreaticcancer.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, his dad died young.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Cancerous tumors were found on the former president's
liver and brain in 2015 as heturned 91.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And he said I'm just going to go ahead and live
another nine years he literallysaid fuck cancer.
Yeah, for real.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
But yeah, I thought that was a crazy little little
tip.
That's amazing.
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I didn't even see that and all the stuff I did I
just there's so much about him Iknow's overwhelming like the
tiktok that that was on lastedlike forever and I was like I
there's too many of these thingsto write down like I would have
to listen to it five times andI don't have that kind of
attention span.
Yeah, so on december 12 1974,jimmy carter announced his
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candidacy for the President ofthe United States.
He won the party's nominationon the first ballot at the 1976
Democratic National Conventionand was elected president on
November 2, 1976.
Nice.
Jimmy Carter served aspresident from January 20, 1977,
till January 20, 1981.
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He let's see, he defeatedincumbent President Gerald Ford.
Following his inauguration,carter opted to walk from the
Capitol to the White House withhis wife and daughter in the
inaugural parade, symbolizing ahumble shift away from the
imperial presidency.
On his first full day of office, carter pardoned hundreds of
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thousands of vietnam war draftevaders in an attempt to heal
the psychic effects of war andsocial unrest that came with it.
And I love that so much.
He was so ahead of his time.
He really was, he just yeah.
So throughout his inauguralyear, carter prioritized energy
(25:58):
policy and urged the public toseriously consider the energy
crisis.
This was the 70s, yeah, andpeople are still denying, oh,
wow.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
We don't have an energy crisis.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Oh, okay, we don't have an energy crisis, oh, okay.
In a televised April 1977speech, the president called the
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imp frustration with the slowpace of energy reform for the
remainder of his presidency.
Well, he only got four years,so that's a short amount of time
to get a lot done.
He created new protected land,especially in Alaska.
He encouraged the creation ofnew forms of renewable energy
and, in fact, he created theDepartment of Energy just to do
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that.
Under his administration, wesee the development of nuclear,
wind, solar and othersustainable sources of energy
and, as a matter of fact, heeven had solar panels put on the
White House oh cool.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I did not know.
They had solar panels.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I didn't either.
Significant foreign policyaccomplishments of his
administration included thePanama Canal Treaties, the Camp
David Accords, the Treaty ofPeace between Egypt and Israel
that.
I don't know if I put more inhere or if I just read about it,
but that was a war that went onfor like 18 years.
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He went over there for twoweeks and ended it I I'm sure
you'll get.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I didn't.
Again, I didn't read the scriptso I don't know what you're
gonna get to, but I know thatafter uh, who him?
It was him bush, bush, sr andBill Clinton they would send on
these missions over to thesecountries to negotiate and stuff
.
I know they were a team.
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I'm pretty sure it was thethree of them.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
He was all about peace.
I think they might come uplater or I just I read a lot,
yeah, so I don't know, I don'tknow.
Anyway, and he did the SALT IITreaty with the Soviet Union and
the establishment of USdiplomatic relations with the
People's Republic of China.
He championed human rightsaround the world.
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Throughout his inaugural year,Carter prioritized energy policy
and urged the public toseriously consider the energy
crisis.
I already said that he createdthe Department of Education, Did
he?
Oh, yeah, Mm-hmm.
Major educational programsunder the new Department of
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Education and majorenvironmental protection
legislation.
Education and majorenvironmental protection
legislation, which doubled thesize of national park systems
and tripled the wilderness areas.
Carter is the author of 32books, including several memoirs
, a poetry collection and achildren's book.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I did hear about his poetry book this morning.
I actually heard about that.
I haven't about that, that wasI didn't, I haven't read it.
But I.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I'm not a reader, because I'm pretty sure I have
undiagnosed ADHD and I justcan't focus, but but I can read
poems because they're short, soI was thinking of looking them
up.
I just didn't have time forthis.
He also won three Grammy Awardsfor his audio books.
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Many of his books deal with thetopic of religious faith, which
was central to the way heapproached his life and his
death.
And there again, as we havesaid before, that man lived the
true Christian life.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
That is 100% accurate .
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yes, yes, man lived the true christian life that is,
that is, 100 accurate.
Yes, yes, um, while serving asthe 39th president of the united
states, jimmy carter, who diedon december 29th at the age of
100, brokered a peace dealbetween israel and egypt,
pioneered a federal energyprogram and reassured the nation
that it was still shaken by thereassured.
A nation that was still shakenby the reassured.
A nation that was still shakenby the Watergate scandal.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I read that wrong and I saw it as Waterloo.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
You thought.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
ABBA was involved.
I thought ABBA was coming in.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
No, no ABBA in this story, damn it.
Carter inherited the economicquagmire of the stagflation, a
combination of high inflationand unemployment and slow
economic growth.
He managed to decrease thebudget deficit and create some 8
million jobs during his time inoffice, but inflation and
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interest rates continued to riseToward the end of the
presidency, carter createdanother new cabinet-level
department.
That's when he created theDepartment of Education to
expand social services tochildren and their families.
That's probably why a lot ofpeople hate him.
um, yeah, probably yeah yeah,because he cared about, yeah,
people that weren't rich um.
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Carter's greatest legacy,however, might just be the way
he approached life following hispresidency and that is what I
have.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Oh, I have always been under the impression that
he was not a very good presidentat the time, but that
everything after his presidencywas but and I don't necessarily
think he was a bad president.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I just think he was really really way too far ahead
of his time, like people werenot ready to hear the stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
No, and I think he wanted to say I think Reagan
ended up getting a lot of creditfor.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Stuff Carter put into motion because the release of
the hostages yeah.
From what I understand, Carter,that was all negotiated by
Carter, but it was.
They were released after Reagantook office.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
So it was like the day after or something Right, so
he got all the credit for it,but it was really carter's
administration that did it right.
So, yep, I think that's whatthe problem maybe was yep.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
So he was inaugurated at the age of 52, which was
relatively young, um with aseries of unfortunate events,
namely the the Iran hostagecrisis, causing discord during
Carter's final year in office,he failed to win the reelection
in 1980.
However, he bounced back with auniquely strong post-presidency
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.
He had decades of possibilityahead of him and when he left
the White House in 1981, hechose to devote the latter half
of his life to continued publicservice.
He chose to devote the latterhalf of his life to continued
public service.
In 1982, in partnership withEmory University, he established
the Carter Center, anorganization dedicated to
promoting peace and well-beingaround the globe.
Carter and his wife Rosalyn,who died in November 2023 at the
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age of 96, famously volunteeredwith Habitat for Humanity for
decades, and he brought toaction what most presidents only
speak about so he was working.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
There's a great picture of him at 90, freaking
five years old with the blackwith the black eye because he
fell the day before, hit hishead and then.
And then they show him and he'snot just like symbolically
building this house, he isholding an air hammer at 90
fucking five years old and likefocusing on what he's doing,
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like he's working with the wholeside of his face black from a
bruise.
yep, yep, the man is intense,like just he isitat.
Let me just tell you aboutHabitat.
Okay, because I know somebodywho has a Habitat house, we went
and helped build it.
Okay, so that is a.
It's a lot different situationthan I was always under the
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impression of.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I have volunteered for Habitat a couple of times
too, and built houses, yeah, soI know a little bit about it.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
So when you are picked to get a Habitat house,
you have to go through.
Participate.
Well, not just that, but youhave to go through months and I
mean months of fixing yourcredit, getting the loan.
I was always under theimpression they built this house
, it was yours.
Bang, have a nice day.
You have to get a mortgage.
You have to get a mortgage.
You have to get a mortgage.
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You have to have.
There's so many requirementsfor these houses.
You have to participate inother people's houses.
You have to give so many hoursto other people, and then you
have to give so many hours toyourself, and then you have to
have so many of your people, somany of your people hours.
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Yes, many of your people, somany of your people hours.
Yes, so we, because she workedfor us, this girl.
She had worked for us forforever.
Um, we all went to help her acouple.
Uh, was it just once a time, Idon't remember, but it was.
It was a load of fun yeah youknow I feel kind of bad for the
poor foreman that has to dealwith people who don't know how
to swing a hammer because he'sgetting frustrated all day.
But the cool thing about it wasbecause the day we went was
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pretty much just her family kindof a situation her family and
her friends situation, Becauseall of our hours also that day
counted towards her hours.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So if you bring a friend, their hours count
towards your hours, Right?
So her house was probably.
I mean the frame had gone, wehad put the frame up, the
roofing frame was going up andthey were putting plywood up and
we all got to sign.
So you got to.
You know, I wrote my meatballrecipe and where the kitchen was
going to be.
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So it's just, it's a really coolthing and I didn't realize that
it was.
And they have such a hard timefinding, especially here.
Yes, because you know the priceof land has quadrupled in the
last four years, so it's verydifficult to find land here.
Yeah, for them to build houses,but it's, it's a really cool
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yeah, I participated in it twice.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Both times I organized for our um office to
do it oh, yeah, yeah and thatwas fun and the first house that
we worked on.
They were just putting up theum two by fours for the walls,
like I mean it was a floor andtwo by fours, right and we did
the same way I'll sign our nameson the two by fours for the
walls, like I mean, it was afloor and two by fours and we
did the same way.
I'll sign our names on the twoby fours, like that'll be in the
inside the walls.
Yeah, um, and then the.
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So we didn't really meetanybody participating in the
house yet with that one, but thenext one we did.
We were doing final touches inthe house and it was a single
dad with a couple kids and he,they came and like his family,
came and like our office and hisfamily all worked together.
Oh my gosh, it was.
It was so much fun it's quite a.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
It's a very moving experience and when um we ended
up going today, they turned thekeys over to her.
Yeah, it was a very emotionaltime because, literally, we have
known this girl since she was ababy.
Like her mom worked for us andI knew her since she was.
I babysat her, I babysat hersisters, not her, but I'm very
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familiar with her family so itwas really cool to see her.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
It is a neat thing.
So if you're looking for a wayto give back to your community,
highly recommend it.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah, very humbling, very.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yep.
So next I want to talk aboutthe Carter Center, which is
really his big legacy that heleaves behind.
So in 1982, Carter became theUniversity Distinguished
Professor at Emory University inAtlanta, Georgia, and with
Rosalind Carter he founded theCarter Center, the nonpartisan,
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which I love that part of itnonpartisan yeah.
And nonprofit center.
Addresses national andinternational issues of public
policy.
Addresses national andinternational issues of public
policy.
Carter Center staff andassociates have joined the
president in efforts to resolveconflict, promote democracy,
protect human rights and preventdisease and other afflictions.
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The center has spearheaded theinternational effort to
eradicate guinea worm disease.
I don't know if I want to knowwhat guinea worm disease.
I don't know if I want to knowwhat a guinea worm disease is.
I don't either, but it's poisedto be the second human disease
in history to be eradicated.
Like that's a huge deal.
Yeah, I did see something onthe news about it last night,
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but I didn't hear really anymore than that.
But anyway, the permanentfacility of the carter
presidential center wasdedicated in october 1986 and it
includes the jimmy carterlibrary museum uh, it's
administered by the nationalarchives and it is open to
visitors at the historical parkand planes administered by by
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the National Park Service.
Until 2020, Jimmy and RosalindCarter volunteered one week a
year for Habitat for Humanity, anonprofit organization that
helps needy people in the UnitedStates and in other countries
renovate and build homes forthemselves.
He also taught Sunday school inthe Maranatha Baptist Church of
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Plains.
The Carters have three sons,one daughter, nine grandsons One
is deceased Threegranddaughters, five
great-grandsons and ninegreat-granddaughters.
Good Lord, that's a familyright there.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
That is.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Carter will be remembered for governing with a
sense of morality and honesty inhis approach to both foreign
affairs and domestic matters.
The late president said in 1978, human rights is the soul of
our foreign policy.
He maintained his commitment tohuman rights in his projects
with the Carter Center and hewas awarded the 2002 Nobel Peace
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Prize for his decades ofuntiring effort to find peaceful
solutions to internationalconflicts, to advance democracy
and human rights and to promoteeconomic and social development.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I only ever remember hearing about his daughter.
I think she had a little bit oftrouble.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, I don't think I realized his family was so big.
I didn't either.
They think she had a little bitof trouble.
Yeah, I don't think I realizedhis family was so big.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
I didn't either.
I know because my mom or my dador one of them.
Apparently she would come toOcean City all the time and get
into some trouble in Ocean City.
From what I understand, I haveheard that she was a partier.
All right, but don't quote meallegedly because you, I don't
want the carter.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
No, I should come.
No, no, I'm gonna, probably I'mgonna reinforce that thought
later on.
Okay, look at that, look at meknowing shit next, I wanted to
share some fun facts about jimmycarter.
Fun facts, fun facts.
Uh.
So jimmy carter was on homeimprovement, really, yes, yes,
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tim allen, home improvement.
So one of the most popularsitcoms in the 1990s was home
improvement.
Tim allen's first leadingproject, carter, had a brief
cameo in season 3, episode 18.
In the episode, tim allen'scharacter, tim taylor, and his
wife compete to see who canbuild a house faster as a part
of habitat for humanity, anorganization carter has been a
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longtime supporter of.
Carter appears at the end ofthe episode in a televised
message to the taylors tim, whatcan I say?
Crews are working around theclock to repair what you built.
That's funny.
That is cute.
Another fun fact is the smilingpeanut.
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There is a 13-foot-tall smilingpeanut statue that debuted in
1976 by the Indiana DemocraticParty as a part of Carter's
presidential campaign, becauseCarter's dad was a peanut farmer
as a part of Carter'spresidential campaign.
Because Carter's dad was apeanut farmer, it draws a
connection between Georgia'siconic crop while bearing a
smile reminiscent of Carter's.
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The peanut is made of solidfoam sprayed over a series of
metal hoops covered with chickenwire.
But here's the fun part.
It has moved around over theyears, but today stands in
Plains and currently stands at120 Buena Vista Road.
What's even more interestingabout the roadside attraction is
a certain local legend.
There's a hole in the back ofit which was carved by a secret
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service to ensure there were noassassins or bombs hidden in the
peanut.
Oh, that's funny.
Oh, that's funny.
And while we're talking secretservice, um, I enjoyed doing
this as well, because itreminded me of an old friend who
has probably since passed,because it's been, oh my gosh, I
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don't even know anyway.
Anyway, I digress.
Uh, when I worked in the casinoas a cocktail waitress and I
met my husband, he was a casinohost, so he rubbed elbows with
all the rich, the well-to-dos,correct, and which meant you
know, big tips, dinners, drinks,like all these things.
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So I got to get in on thataction when I met my husband.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
This was also to to back it up for you.
This was also before everystate had casinos, so there was
literally only nevada jerseyatlantic city was?
Did new york have, I think?
I think the indian reservations?
Oh, they did, they did floridahad one and mohican sun probably
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was here, but anyway, marylanddidn't have them.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Pennsylvania didn't have them, no, and nobody else
had casinos.
So he had a customer that wouldcome in and he was an older man
and he was retired SecretService, which is just badass in
and of itself.
He had covered a number ofpresidents.
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Of course he didn't share awhole bunch of information, but
he would tell the best stories.
He went to South America onceto protect the Pope.
He had to frisk nuns, whichsounded exciting.
But for whatever reason, hehated Jimmy Carter.
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That's crazy.
Hated Jimmy Carter, and hewould never really say why,
except he just hated JimmyCarter.
So I don't know if this guy wasa staunch Republican and
Jimmy's policies were just waytoo crazy for him, or if
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guarding him as Secret Servicewas a nightmare of some sort.
I don't know.
Maybe I don't know.
I can't imagine that he wouldhave been a problem, the only
thing I can think of is if hewanted to be in the crowd too
much and around the people toomuch, which would make it hard,
but yeah, yeah, he could notstand jimmy carter.
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That man was from maine, though, and he taught me how to eat a
whole lobster properly, head totoe, and not waste any of it,
and I am thankful forever forthat, um so, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
I just was looking up , um, do you know what, because
the Service, this fascinates thefuck out of me how the Secret
Service has a special the codename for the president and the
family.
And do you know what?
His one?
No, his was Deacon Perfect.
Rosalind was Lotus Petal, amyCarter was Dynamo, chip Carter
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was Diamond, jack Carter wasDerby and Jeff Carter was
Deckhand.
Chip Carter was Diamond, jackCarter was Derby and Jeff Carter
was Deckhand.
That is also a fun fact.
Ronald Reagan was Rawhide.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
That's perfect.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
And Joe Biden is Celtic.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Well, shouldn't we not know that?
Speaker 3 (45:45):
yet?
No, I don't think they.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Well, what's the point of having a code name if
everybody knows it?
Speaker 3 (45:51):
That is a great question.
Obama was Rennegade.
I like it.
It's pretty cool yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
That is fun.
Next fun fact Jimmy Carter sawa UFO.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
That is a fun fact.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
It seems to be a theme with our shows here lately
.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
It's really UFO heavy here.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
One of the longest running strange stories to
surround Carter was the time hesaw a UFO.
While the exact dates of thesighting is unclear, the story
goes that after a dinner morethan 50 years ago, carter said
he and several other people sawsomething in the sky.
A kind of green light appearedin the western sky.
This was right after sundown.
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It got brighter and brighterand then it eventually
disappeared.
It didn't have any solidsubstance to it, it was just a
very peculiar looking light.
None of us could understandwhat it was.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
I mean in the south.
Where was this?
In the south?
So how far south?
No, you didn't say South.
So where was it?
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I didn't see anywhere .
I don't think it was in thestory.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Oh, the only reason I asked that is was it the
Northern Lights?
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Well, he clarified in another interview years later
that while it was anunidentified flying object, he
didn't necessarily mean a flyingsaucer.
It was unidentified as far aswe're concerned.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
But I think it's impossible in my opinion some
people may disagree to havespace people from other planets
or other stars to come, which isexactly what I say, oh well,
and that on now see him sayingthat so he was president and
roswell was prior to himbecoming president, so he would
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have had access, although Idon't think they let him have
access.
I think that's like one spotthe president just can't go like
I don't think they're evenallowed there.
yeah, but that's the only reason.
I honest to god, that is theonly reason I would want to be
president, Like on January 20that 5 pm.
I would be like we're going toRoswell Right now.
Not now, but right now.
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Fuck this ball, Fuck everythingelse.
We're getting in the we're thefire Air Force One up because we
are going to Vegas.
I want to know.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I want to know what is at Area 51.
So the next little fun fact Ileft you a picture which I will
post up on our Facebook pagelater, but it's a picture of
Jimmy Carter and Willieter andwillie nelson sitting on a couch
together at merriweather, atmerriweather post pavilion in
maryland in 1980.
I have seen concerts atmerriweather post pavilion um.
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So the next fun fact is thatjimmy carter was a rock and roll
president, as variety magazineput it.
Carter was remembered as theultimate music-loving president,
which I would have thoughtClinton was, or even Obama.
But he was not only a huge fanof big names like the Allman
Brothers and Bob Dylan, but theywere also fans of his.
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The close relationship Carterhad with music and musicians was
the focus of a documentarycalled Jimmy Carter Rock and
Roll and roll president, whichyou can watch on max maybe I
will.
Yeah.
In the documentary, carterlaughs as he revealed that when
willie nelson came to stay atthe white house, he smoked
marijuana with one of his sonswith one of his sons.
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Sure he did.
Yeah, that's what I thoughtwhen I read it, but just the
fact that he would admit it atall in the white house like he
did.
Yeah, that's what I thoughtwhen I read it, but just the
fact that he would admit it atall in the White House he did
not inhale, though.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
No, that was.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Bush Jr.
So next fun fact Jimmy missedout on being valedictorian.
When Jimmy Carter wasgraduating from Plains High
School in 1941, he was slated tobe the valedictorian but missed
the chance because he skipped aday of classes.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
See that's why I never skipped a day.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Also, I was not valedictorian he reportedly went
to see a movie on april fool'sday in america with some other
senior boys.
Carter received zeros for thatday and became the salutarian
instead.
It was hardcore back then, yeahyeah so those are all my fun
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facts.
Do you have any fun facts thatyou know about?
Speaker 3 (50:19):
jimmy carter, I did.
I looked up one because I gotcurious and we had a minute
because nicole tried to die onme choking on my own spit.
Yeah she, she tried to die alittle bit ago and, um, I just
sat here waiting for her to makea decision, so I found out.
Now I do know.
I think they name some kind ofa ship after all the presidents.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
That sounds right.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
I know the Navy because I know there's the USS
JFK.
There was, I don't know if itstill is because I had friends,
my friends in the Navy were onthe JFK, which is a whole story
for another day.
Heather and her Navy friendsyeah, okay, and so anyway.
The USS Jimmy Carter is thethird and final Seawolf-class
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nuclear-powered fast-attacksubmarine in the United States
Navy, commissioned in 2005,.
She is named for the 39thpresident, jimmy Carter, the
only president to have beenqualified on submarines, the
only submarine to have beennamed for a living president.
And the Jimmy Carter is one ofthe few vessels and only the
third submarine of the US Navyto have been named for a living
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president.
And the jimmy carter is one ofthe few vessels and only the
third submarine of the us navyto have been named for a living
person.
Uh, extensively modifiedsometimes cries, it's like it's
pretty much a one-of-a-kindthing.
Um, you know, it's unlike anyother navy submarine.
It's fitted with with smallthrusters at its bow and stern,
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allowing it to quietly hover inplace for extended periods
during undersea spy missions.
Today, details of the Carter'smissions remain among the
Defense Department's mosttightly held secrets.
That is so badass Great, so hegot a whole, because he, I, I,
when I was looking through thathe served on a, on a, um, a
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Seawolf.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
So that's pretty cool , very cool, pretty cool stuff.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah yeah, thank you for the fun fact.
Sure, all right, so thanks fornot dying.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
Nobody wants to hear me talk to myself, just a little
spittle, that's all.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
So we've gone through his biography, his presidency,
some of his legacy, some funfacts, and now I'd like to wrap
it up with some wisdom fromJimmy Carter.
I found this and I thought itwas really kind of neat, his
view on different things.
So the first one, jimmy Carter,on community service.
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I have learned that ourgreatest blessings come when we
are able to improve the lives ofothers, and this is especially
true when those others aredesperately poor or in need.
And I mean, how much do we needa president that feels like
that right now?
And that's not even a dig atanybody Like none of them care.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
People need help man, it's tough times.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah.
So the next one is Jimmy Carter, on finding purpose.
I have one life and one chanceto make it count for something.
I'm free to choose thatsomething, that something.
The something that I've chosenis my faith.
My faith demands that I dowhatever I can, wherever I can,
whenever I can, for as long as Ican, with whatever I have, to
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try to make a difference.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
And that should be the very definition of a
Christian.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
What would Jesus do?
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Yeah, what would Jimmy Carter do?
Speaker 3 (53:53):
That's what we have to start saying we're going to
get bracelets.
I mean it's the same bracelet.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
It's the same initials we really don't have to
.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Just a rebrand really You're going to hell.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
Not just for that.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
Jimmy Carter on human rights.
The rule of law is a processrather than an end product.
The desire for freedom andjustice is a most powerful force
in the lives of sufferingpeople.
Their plight expose the humanrights crimes, rescue victims
from their oppressors and letthem join us in sharing the
(54:39):
benefits of the rule of lawsthat provide justice and lives
of equality and peace.
Yes, I thought Jimmy said itway better than I did.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
He just had that lovely accent that southern
drawl.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
Yeah, that southern drawl, yep, that Georgia peach.
Gotta love that southern drawl.
Yeah, that southern drawl, yep,that Georgia peach.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
Gotta love a southern drawl Yep.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Jimmy Carter on bipartisanship you learn a lot
about a man when you run againsthim for president and when you
stand in his shoes and assumethe responsibilities that he has
borne so well, and perhaps evenmore after you both lay down
the burdens of high office andwork together in a nonpartisan
spirit of patriotism and serviceAgain, something that I hope we
(55:18):
can find our way to.
We got to work together, people.
Jimmy Carter on gender equalityso this was the 70s, so gender
equality was still a very newconcept and girls largely caused
(55:55):
by a false interpretation ofcarefully selected religious
text and a growing tolerance ofviolence and warfare,
unfortunately following theexample set during my lifetime
by the United States.
Yeah, yeah, that was prettyintense.
Yeah, yeah, wow.
And to even call out like hisown religion, like you guys are
making these rules up out of theBible.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
So yeah, picking and choosing Right yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
Jimmy Carter on the horror of war.
War may sometimes be anecessary evil, but no matter
how necessary, it is always anevil, never a good.
We will not learn how to livetogether in peace by killing
each other's children.
That's true.
You know, that's something thathas just always like.
Why?
Why is that the route we take?
Why?
(56:40):
Why can't we?
Speaker 3 (56:41):
because human beings are an incredibly violent animal
.
It's crazy.
I mean, really, it's the.
If there is a cancer on thisplanet, it is the human beings.
I mean there is a cancer onthis planet, it is the human
beings.
I mean there is no othercreature on this planet that can
be as vicious.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
Towards its own kind.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
Any kind.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
Right Anything.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
Yeah, true, I mean, we have literally gone through
locusts through this planet,mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah, going through likelocusts through this planet and
yeah yeah, say what you wantabout, like we talked about last
week with the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
I don't know that we're that far away from it no,
and I don't want to participatein it no uh, jimmy carter, on
peacekeeping.
History teaches perhaps very fewclear lessons, but surely one
such lesson, learned by theworld at great cost, is that
aggression unopposed becomes acontagious disease.
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It's true, oh, jimmy, jimmy, onovercoming hardships, our
American values are not luxuriesbut necessities, not the salt
in our bread but the breaditself.
Our common vision of a free andjust society is our greatest
source of cohesion at home andstrength abroad, greater even
(58:04):
than the bounty of all materialblessings.
Speaker 3 (58:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
Yep, I agree, a million percent.
All right, we got two moreJimmy Carter and the secret to
his marriage with RosalindCarter.
At the end of the day, we tryto become reconciled and
overcome all the differencesthat arose during the day.
We also make up and give eachother a kiss before we go to
sleep.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
And that's why they were married.
I think it was like 70 yearsthey were married.
Yeah, they were a long timeVery young, yeah, yeah.
I don't know, how do youtolerate someone for 70 years?
Speaker 2 (58:40):
I don't even tolerate myself for 70 years.
And finally, Jimmy Carter onthe future of the United States.
Sometimes I'm fearful andsometimes I'm hopeful, but
overwhelmingly I'm hopeful.
Speaker 3 (58:54):
I have confidence in the basic integrity of the
American people.
Well, somebody should haveconfidence in our basic.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
I wonder how he felt about that in his last years,
because I feel like ourintegrity has been compromised I
don't know that we really everhad it true, that is true I mean
mean it's not just this country, you know, it's all the
countries in the world, it'sjust human beings.
Speaker 3 (59:19):
I mean it's just we're not good to each other,
we're wretched, we're just like,we're locusts, and it's a shame
, because it doesn't always haveto be that way and there are
good people, jimmy carter beingone, and that he lived to be 100
years old.
So you know, maybe living withhate is not good, you're in
(59:44):
trouble, I know, everybody knowsI'm gonna have cancer.
Hate cancer, I'm going to havecancer.
Hate cancer, I'm going to havehate cancer.
It's from pushing all the hatedown.
I have stomach problems.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
So this was our tribute to Jimmy Carter.
We felt it was right to do itthis week.
So this will also be my lastpodcast for the next month, with
no wine, because I am againdoing dry january, so if I don't
(01:00:19):
slur as much, in the next.
Uh, she won't be as gigglyepisodes and I don't giggle as
much.
Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
You know why I thought she was gonna drop a
bombshell on me here on say thisis my last one, like again, I
quit.
Nobody wants nobody, I don'twant to hear myself talk.
Today we had an end-of-the-yeartalk at work and I'm not going.
It's not Anyway.
So basically it was a safetytalk.
(01:00:48):
You know, obviously we havesafety talks and we're not
allowed to have earbuds.
Was a safety talk.
You know, obviously we havesafety talks and, uh, we're not
allowed to have earbuds, and Isaid that's going to be very
unfortunate that I have to bealone with myself and nothing
else running through my head forlike nine hours a day.
Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
I feel like it's and did they say?
Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
never mind you specifically, you listen to
earbuds because we don't needthat kind of so you'll just
sneak one in no, I know, I knowsafety first safety, first I get
it yeah, it's just so.
Today is new year's eve.
We, we, uh.
(01:01:29):
We record on tuesdays yes andum.
Yeah, I'm not doing anything.
I'm leaving here and I'm goingstraight home and I'm gonna make
myself.
I don't know what I'm gonnamake myself, because I don't
remember what I have.
Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I have a house full of people in the other room they
have made it very difficult torecord this podcast shh, don't
tell them.
Said that I don't think any ofthem listen so don't worry about
it, but we do have a shit tonof food that I am way excited
about, like we are grillingsteaks tonight Steaks, ew, no,
(01:02:03):
not steaks.
Grilling steaks.
Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Oh, that's fun.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Potatoes, cheese, lots of cheese.
Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
Can't go wrong with cheese Cocktail shrimp Cheese
cheese lots of cheese Can't gowrong with cheese, cocktail
shrimp.
I can't imagine I'll make ittill midnight.
No, probably not I'm tired.
I woke up early this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
I woke up at 6 am this morning.
I actually woke up before 6 amand I laid in bed until 6.
And then I just got up.
I was like, just forget it.
I was like, of all the dayswhen I have to stay up till
midnight tonight, seriously, Ihave to wake up at 6 am today.
Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
See, I'm an early person.
You know that about me.
I'm always up that early.
But now that I'm getting olderI do sleep in, although Joe is
like I don't think sleepinguntil 7.30 is sleeping in and
I'm like I mean it is when I getup at five every morning.
It is for sure, yeah, but Ididn't, I don't, I'm just tired
(01:02:57):
today.
Yeah, so I will not be makingit to midnight.
Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Okay, I'll tell you all about it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
I think it's going to just probably be a ball
dropping and then happy new, andthen it will be 12.01.
Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
And we'll all go to bed.
Yeah, I know, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Yeah, I heard it's supposed to rain in New York
City tonight too.
Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Oh God, that makes it even more miserable.
I can't, I don't know, I don'teven want to go, like they're
having all this shit going onaround here.
I do not want to go to Berlinand watch whatever they're
dropping Nope Bethany's droppingsomething.
I don't want to go see that.
Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
I know my youngest is going to the beach, to the
Rusty Rudder.
They have a clear tent forfireworks.
I'm like, do you boo?
Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
You know what that reminds me?
I have to drive freaking homethrough Dewey Ew.
I know.
Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
We better wrap this up, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
That that's not going to be fun.
They're already going to bedrinking, so thanks for
listening.
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Welcome to Like Whatever a podcast for by and
about Gen X.
I'm Nicole and this is my BFFF,heather Bonjour.
So something I learnedyesterday I was scrolling
through Instagram and it saidthat Generation Beta starts
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January 1st 2025.
And I didn't even realize therewas a Generation Alpha, but
there was.
So I have a little bit oftidbits here to fill you in,
since we are gen x, and that iswhat we talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I don't know about any other generations but myself
yep.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So, uh, the gen alpha obviously has things that they
know they went through, and genbeta is what they think they're
going to probably go through.
So, um, generation alpha goesfrom 2010 to 2024.
They were the first to be bornentirely in the 21st century.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That's so fucking weird, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
crazy.
Remember when we were partyinglike it was 1999, in like 83?
Yeah, sure do.
They are children ofmillennials which is crazy
because millennials seem likebabies.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
How are they even having children?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
uh, they were born at a time of falling fertility
rates around much of the world.
That's weird.
Yeah, I guess we're alldeciding we have too many people
on this planet maybe like, likenot yeah, that's when I first
read it I was thinkinginfertility but it just says
falling fertility rates.
Maybe it's just people arehaving less babies, but I
(02:09):
probably should have looked intothat more.
But anyway, if you're listeningto this and you care, go look
it up.
So they experienced COVID-19pandemic as young children,
which is crazy.
Can you imagine having gonethrough that when you were a kid
?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
The whole last four years just seem weird.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's like stuff that happened before COVID and after
COVID.
Now it's it's really becauselike really 2020 to 2022,
nothing happened.
Like no, it was really just ablur.
Like nothing was happening.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I know, and then 20, it's just, I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Right.
So either it happened in thepast year or two or it happened
before we had to wear masks.
But other than that, pre andpost masks, yeah.
And so also the GenerationAlpha.
Their entertainment isincreasingly dominated by
electronic technology and socialnetworking.
Yes, definitely the socialnetworking, yeah, that's just a
(03:05):
whole nother level bullying like.
Can you imagine?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
when you left school it didn't stop because I mean,
you could still access you soI'm not going to give my total
opinion on this, but um, fromsomebody who was bullied quite a
bit, right uh, and because I ama gen xer and I'm just like
fuck everybody else, right, fuckyour feelings, um, I don't know
(03:30):
to me, just turn it off.
Just turn it off, right, likemy stepdaughter right is having
some issues and I'm just likejust block it, like wait I do
understand your point of view,but I also.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I mean that's their lifeline and I get that.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So that's, that's where I like I'm torn because
but you can block people who arebothering you and still talk to
people that you like, exactly,and and like when I was a kid, I
could not block those peoplebecause I had to see them every
day and I had to be in personwith them and you can't block.
I mean, I did eventually blockone of them, but you know that
(04:10):
was an illegal block Right 15yards, but it's so hard to
because I knocked her ass out tothe floor.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'm so proud of you.
Yeah, so yeah.
But like I work with highschool students and it's just
crazy Like shit starts on socialmedia the night before and
those kids show up at school 7am fighting Like 7 o'clock in
the morning man, I don't know, Ithink it's just maybe because I
just never cared like that much.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So if I get bullied online, I'm just like okay.
You know, I never really caredlike that much.
So if I get bullied online, I'mjust like okay.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You know, I just really I never really cared,
yeah, but it sucks because, likeyour whole, I feel like for a
lot of them their wholeself-worth is based on, for sure
, what they look like and whatthe filter does, and you know
how many likes they get, howmuch.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Sephora they get, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, I was.
What was I listening to?
Oh, um, there's a?
Um comedian, nate bargazy.
Have you heard of him?
Yes, or borgetzi I think isright.
Um, I love him.
Have you listened to him?
I haven't really, but he'scompletely clean.
He does not cuss.
He is a good old boy fromtennessee.
He can't even fathom cussingand having his parents hear it,
(05:28):
so like he is totally clean.
But he is hilarious and he wastalking about his daughter.
She's like.
I think he said she's likeeight or 11, something in there.
And so she's into YouTube andwatching kids play with toys on
videos and and watching likepeople's TikTok stuff.
And he said that you know theydon't let her have social media.
(05:51):
But he said on his phone alonehe has like a good billion hours
of her like okay, guys, likesubscribe, like creating videos,
but only he sees them.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Right, right.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But it's nuts Like.
I'm so glad, like my kids I.
I actually was looking throughuh facebook memories the other
day and um christmas time and mygirl's first ipod touches I saw
, I saw you posted that yeah andlike that was so special and.
But I didn't have to deal withlike and when my kids, when they
(06:23):
got phones it was still fairlynew so I could take their like
kids will fucking kill theirparents to get their phones now,
but you know, when you go tobed I take the phone, you know,
and now kids are up all nightlong on their phones at all
kinds of ages.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I mean, you know, it's just.
It's just one of those thingswhere it's just because you can,
doesn't mean you should withtechnology.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And just because your kid throws a fit doesn't mean
you should just let them have it.
It's a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
You're the adult.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, they're the child.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
But I mean, if you can't even put your own phone
down, like Right you know.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
What example are you setting for them?
Yeah, that's exactly right.
All right, so Generation Betawill start tomorrow.
Oh Yep, these kids will grow upin a technology-driven world of
artificial intelligence,autonomous transportation and
(07:17):
immersive digital experiences.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You know the fact that these kids, when they hit
16, will probably not know howto drive a car.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It's crazy, right.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I was thinking that when I wrote this, I was like
driver's ed is going to becomeobsolete.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, you won't have to have a driver's license.
No, you just have to be able topay attention.
Exactly.
Well but they can't even dothat.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
They will be raised by millennials and older Gen Z
parents, many of whom prioritizeadaptability, equality and
eco-consciousness, which willhopefully result in this new
generation being more globallyminded, community focused and
(08:04):
collaborative.
Now that's all sounds veryhopeful to me.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
But, it's just yeah, I don't know.
I feel like every like we'rebecoming less community focused
and more Well, because you know,well yeah no-transcript.
(08:49):
Instagram and that was my firstreal exposure to that happening
.
But they're like real friends,like yeah, that's them and that.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I guess that's just it.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You know they're real friends and yeah, and some of
them even live kind of locally,but they still don't know each
other in real life.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
No it's weird, it and and you know, and then you just
you see other people livingtheir lives on facebook and and
then it's just like, well,that's what's supposed to happen
.
But it's all lies.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Like it's all just lies you can put on any front
you want they always say themore that someone is pushing
their relationship on facebook,the worse the relationship 100%.
Yeah, look how happy we are.
So what about you?
Do you have any good stuff totalk about this week?
(09:37):
Before we get into the topic.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I did so.
My dad was a server.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Right, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, so my dad was a surfer, right, I remember that,
yeah, and he where did it go?
He has surfed in Hawaii andCalifornia and stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And then he had Did he ever tell any stories about
any big waves?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
He had the shit beat out of him in California because
the waves were bigger.
Well, first of all he was tooold, yeah, so he went with a
younger one of the guys that weworked with, that's always a bad
idea, yeah.
I think he was like this kid waslike 20, 21, somewhere in there
(10:20):
, and my dad was, you know, 40.
And I know that the waves wereparticularly big when they went
Because they specifically wentat a certain.
I guess there's a certain timewhere California's waves are
bigger and it's really cold.
The water's really cold.
In California it's much colderthan here.
I don't think it gets real warmlike it does here here.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I don't think it gets real warm like it does here, um
so, and they probably went inthe winter also, I don't know,
because you had a restaurant.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah so, and they both worked there, yeah, so
it would have had to be in thewinter anyway.
Um, so yeah, he got the shitbeat out of him and I think and
that was one of the uh.
He went to Hawaii after thatbecause he had one of his old
surfing buddies lives in Hawaiihe has since passed away, but he
(11:14):
lived in Hawaii for a very longtime.
So my dad went out to visit him, my mom and dad went out to
visit him and he surfed while hewas there.
I think that was probably thelast time he surfed after his
accident.
He can't lift his arm up so hehe can't surf anymore, he can't
(11:34):
golf anymore the motorcycleaccident.
Yeah, the motorcycle he, uh, hecan't raise his arm like he
can't.
He couldn't paddle and he, hecan't swing a golf club anymore.
So, yeah, so he's, he didn't,he, uh, he didn't.
He doesn't surf anymore, he'stoo old for it now.
But, um, yeah, he, uh, he didsurf.
(11:58):
I don't think he surfed real,real big ones, but and I know
that california kicked his ass,but I don't remember how big
they were because you know hereit's, you know, if a storm rolls
in, then they're 10 foot mayberight beyond that, you might get
yeah to surf.
His.
His thing was skiing.
He still ski.
He does still ski.
Wow, yeah, and he skis um.
(12:19):
He is a very good skier.
Like he could ski.
I don't know that he.
I know he's been to um Utah andMontana park, uh, wherever the
big mountains are I don't skithose big snowy mountains.
Yeah, uh, he's been and I thinkhe's done those where I don't
(12:41):
think he's done the helicopterdrop ones.
But I know he's been on somevery rugged where it's like not
a lot of people can ski.
He's very good at skiing prettycool.
Yeah, he's, he's all rightanyway.
Right.
So the big wave?
Um, there is a competition andit can only happen every once in
(13:02):
a while.
In Hawaii it's the Big WaveChallenge and it's after this
one surfer who died.
He drowned saving other people.
I forget the whole story of it,but it's named after him and he
only surfed big waves.
So this competition?
They just had it.
(13:22):
They haven't had it in a coupleyears.
The waves have to be over 40feet in order to surf it, so
they did just have it a while, alittle bit ago, but I saw this
A 23-year-old rode a 108-footwave.
That's like tsunamis, dude that?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
oh my God, that sounds like.
I'm not scared of the ocean,but that sounds terrifying.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, he is.
It's going to go down.
They're trying to confirm it,but it's, it will have.
It will go down in the recordbook.
The current record is 86 feetwhich is insane.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, cause I jumped off a 50 foot cliff once when I
was um whitewater rafting and Iclosed my eyes because I'm
terrified of heights, and I fellfor long enough that in my head
I was like I should have hitthe water by now.
I must be dead, and so I can'teven fathom what that, what,
(14:24):
what, being that high on asurfboard with a crashing wave
around you?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
It says it's not only incredible for its size but
also for its perfect barrelingshape.
So it was like a beautiful.
I saw pictures of it.
It is the nice looking, if youknow, if you're into that.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It is a nice looking wave.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah.
Yeah, that's pretty crazy yeahhe, it says he expertly.
Okay, he rode the entire waveface.
He expertly carved a gracefulline from the top of the wave to
the bottom and then turned intoa colossal barrel before safely
(15:04):
exiting out the beastly wavesshoulder man that must have felt
so good.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Can you imagine how good that felt when he popped
out the other side?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I just it.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
The the thing is, and it does my moment in there
where you're like well, I don'tknow, surfers are crazy.
They probably don't think aboutdying no but yeah that would be
nuts it's.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
It.
Is it the way if you, if youall get a chance to look at it,
you should look at this hundredfoot?
No, but yeah, that would benuts.
It is the way.
If you all get a chance to lookat it, you should look at this
100-foot wave that this kidsurfs.
I mean, it's insane.
Yeah, that's awesome.
I don't.
It scares me.
Yeah, the ocean is scary.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
The older I get, the scarier it gets.
100%.
All right, so let's get intothis week's topic.
So well, I'll start it with.
Let's fuck around and find outabout former president and
lifelong humanitarian, jamesEarl Carter Jr, which I didn't
realize.
He shared a name with JamesEarl Jones and that's pretty
cool too, but anyway.
(16:03):
But we decided, you know, withwith his passing this week that
um, we wanted to do an episodeon his accomplishments and his
long life of um human just beinga good human.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
He really was.
You know and I don't knowbecause we were so you know, so
young when he served.
I don't, and I clearly I didn'tgive two shits about politics
when, I was five, but I don'tthink he gets a lot of credit
for.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
But an episode or two ago we talked about good
Christians and he was one ofthose you weren't praying for.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Because if anybody had that connection, he did.
He seemed like a good man.
He did for sure, because he, he, if anybody had that connection
, he did.
He seemed like a good man, hedid.
Um, so jimmy carter, otherwiseknown as james earl carter jr,
was the 39th president of theunited states.
He was born october 1st 2024 Iknow, 1924 he died in 2024 in
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the small farming town of plains, georgia, and grew up in the
nearby community of archery.
His father, james Earl CarterSr, was a farmer and businessman
, and his mother, lily GordonCarter, was a registered nurse.
So he comes from good stock,yes, good people.
He was educated in the publicschool of planes, attended
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Georgia Southwestern College andthe Georgia Institute of
Technology and received a BSdegree from the United States
Naval Academy in 1946.
In the Navy he became asubmariner, serving in both the
Atlantic and Pacific fleets andrising to the rank of lieutenant
.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
See, I did not know.
I guess I just really didn'tknow much about Carter before
he's.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I agree.
Like I knew he was a good human, I knew he only served one term
.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I knew you know the later in life stuff like the
things we've heard about lately.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
But yeah, I learned a lot doing this, so this was fun
.
So he was chosen by admiralhyman rickover for the nuclear
submarine program and he wasassigned to schenectady, new
york, where he took graduatework at union college in reactor
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technology and nuclear physicsand served as senior officer of
the pre-commissioning crew ofthe seawolf, the second nuclear
submarine I mean really, whoknew?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I'm sorry, that just blows my mind.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I mean, I did not expect jimmy carter to have been
a nuclear right, wait till Iget to the part where he's a
rock and roll fan, like seriousokay I didn't read this, guys.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna find out with you crazy, all
right.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
So, inspired by postcards from his uncle, tom
gordy, I made sure to spacethose out, so I wasn't saying
and I'm about to make him lookbad.
Carter decided to join the navyat a young age.
After completing two years atgeorgia southwestern college and
the georgia institute oftechnology, carter enrolled in
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the us naval academy inannapolis, maryland, and he
graduated in the top 10 of hisclass in 1946.
He also did not becomevaledictorian of his high school
, and I have a little tidbitabout that later too oh snap.
So in the Navy Carter completedtwo years of surface ship duty
and then he went into thesubmarine service which I talked
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about earlier.
So he was on the USS Seawolf.
However, when the senior Carterfell ill and so his dad died in
1953, jimmy returned to planesto take over the family business
right um.
On july 7th 1946 he marriedrosalind smith of planes.
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They're just the cutest littlethings yeah, oh my gosh, they
were so cute.
I cannot believe he made it aslong as he did after she went.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I know Well.
He was in hospice for a year.
He was trying to get to her.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
The doctors were too good.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I think he's got to have the record for the longest
time in hospice.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, you know, I read that he lived long enough
to vote for Kamala, but not longenough to have to live through
another.
Yeah, anyway, I lost my place,but not long enough to have to
live through another.
Anyway, he quickly became aleader of the community, serving
on county boards supervisingeducation, the hospital
authority and the library.
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In 1962, he won election to theGeorgia Senate.
He lost his first gubernatorialcampaign.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You're a goober.
You're a goober, your mom.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Don't tell her.
I said that In 1966, but wonthe next election, becoming
Georgia's 76th governor, onJanuary 12, 1971.
Two years before I was born.
He was the Democratic NationalCommittee campaign chairman for
the 1974 Congressional andgubernatorial.
I was born, he was theDemocratic National Committee
campaign chairman for the 1974congressional and gubernatorial
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elections.
Easy for you to say, all right.
So that's just a little basicbackground on him.
So now we're going to talkabout President Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Wait, hold up, okay.
First, I just did learn aboutthis this week and I went on the
Google Because I did not knowthis about him.
I learned this on thetickety-tock oh, mm-hmm.
So he first of all, did youknow that there was some kind of
meltdown in Canada?
You didn't, I didn't.
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Nuclear reactive I don't.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I don't think I did.
Let me find it.
Is it, is it I?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
don't.
I don't think I did.
Let me find it.
Is it so?
When Canada's Chalk RiverNuclear Research Facility
experienced a power surge thatdamaged its reactor, the US sent
Carter and his team.
He was one of the few people inthe world who could do it.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Was he president.
Yet no.
Or was that just from hisskills, that's, from prior to I?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
doesn't say what year it was, but I Probably while he
was in the military.
Oh, he was 28.
Okay, so he was 28.
He was still in the Navy.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Okay.
Oh, so he was really high up inthe Navy, then yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
So they sent him fuel .
Rods at the research reactorexperienced a partial meltdown
after the power surge.
It ruptured the reactor andflooded the facility's basement
with radioactive water,rendering the reactor core
unusable.
So in his autobiography A FullLife Reflections at 90, he
described the incident and hispreparations for repairing the
reactor reactor.
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They built an exact replica ofthe reactor true to the last
detail, except for the nuclearmaterial on a nearby tennis
court to practice and tracktheir progress.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
That sounds like Ocean's Eleven.
When they planned to rob thevault, yeah, and they rebuilt
the vault.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
So him and 22 other team members were separated into
teams of three and lowered intothe reactor for 90 second
intervals to clean the site.
I know know it was estimatedthat a minute and a half was the
maximum time humans could beexposed to the levels of
radiation present in the areaand the man lived to be 100 yeah
, right that's insane.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
He was a superhero?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I really.
He maybe that's what.
Yeah, oh, he says we werefairly well instructed then on
what nuclear power was, but forabout six months after that I
had radioactivity in my urine.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Oh, that sounds painful.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, they let us get , and he still lived to 100.
That's insane.
They let us get probably athousand times more radiation
than they would now.
It was in the early stages andthey didn't know.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Shit.
You look back on those peoplelike George Burns Was that his
name?
Yeah, that drank martinis andsmoked their whole lives and
you're like damn, he still lived, but this dude was fucking
radioactive.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
They said the exposure was especially
dangerous for him because he hasa family medical history of
cancer.
His father had pancreaticcancer.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, his dad died young.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Cancerous tumors were found on the former president's
liver and brain in 2015 as heturned 91.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And he said I'm just going to go ahead and live
another nine years he literallysaid fuck cancer.
Yeah, for real.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
But yeah, I thought that was a crazy little little
tip.
That's amazing.
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I didn't even see that and all the stuff I did I
just there's so much about him Iknow's overwhelming like the
tiktok that that was on lastedlike forever and I was like I
there's too many of these thingsto write down like I would have
to listen to it five times andI don't have that kind of
attention span.
Yeah, so on december 12 1974,jimmy carter announced his
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candidacy for the President ofthe United States.
He won the party's nominationon the first ballot at the 1976
Democratic National Conventionand was elected president on
November 2, 1976.
Nice.
Jimmy Carter served aspresident from January 20, 1977,
till January 20, 1981.
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He let's see, he defeatedincumbent President Gerald Ford.
Following his inauguration,carter opted to walk from the
Capitol to the White House withhis wife and daughter in the
inaugural parade, symbolizing ahumble shift away from the
imperial presidency.
On his first full day of office, carter pardoned hundreds of
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thousands of vietnam war draftevaders in an attempt to heal
the psychic effects of war andsocial unrest that came with it.
And I love that so much.
He was so ahead of his time.
He really was, he just yeah.
So throughout his inauguralyear, carter prioritized energy
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policy and urged the public toseriously consider the energy
crisis.
This was the 70s, yeah, andpeople are still denying, oh,
wow.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
We don't have an energy crisis.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Oh, okay, we don't have an energy crisis, oh, okay.
In a televised April 1977speech, the president called the
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imp frustration with the slowpace of energy reform for the
remainder of his presidency.
Well, he only got four years,so that's a short amount of time
to get a lot done.
He created new protected land,especially in Alaska.
He encouraged the creation ofnew forms of renewable energy
and, in fact, he created theDepartment of Energy just to do
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that.
Under his administration, wesee the development of nuclear,
wind, solar and othersustainable sources of energy
and, as a matter of fact, heeven had solar panels put on the
White House oh cool.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I did not know.
They had solar panels.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I didn't either.
Significant foreign policyaccomplishments of his
administration included thePanama Canal Treaties, the Camp
David Accords, the Treaty ofPeace between Egypt and Israel
that.
I don't know if I put more inhere or if I just read about it,
but that was a war that went onfor like 18 years.
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He went over there for twoweeks and ended it I I'm sure
you'll get.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I didn't.
Again, I didn't read the scriptso I don't know what you're
gonna get to, but I know thatafter uh, who him?
It was him bush, bush, sr andBill Clinton they would send on
these missions over to thesecountries to negotiate and stuff
.
I know they were a team.
(27:59):
I'm pretty sure it was thethree of them.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
He was all about peace.
I think they might come uplater or I just I read a lot,
yeah, so I don't know, I don'tknow.
Anyway, and he did the SALT IITreaty with the Soviet Union and
the establishment of USdiplomatic relations with the
People's Republic of China.
He championed human rightsaround the world.
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Throughout his inaugural year,Carter prioritized energy policy
and urged the public toseriously consider the energy
crisis.
I already said that he createdthe Department of Education, Did
he?
Oh, yeah, Mm-hmm.
Major educational programsunder the new Department of
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Education and majorenvironmental protection
legislation.
Education and majorenvironmental protection
legislation, which doubled thesize of national park systems
and tripled the wilderness areas.
Carter is the author of 32books, including several memoirs
, a poetry collection and achildren's book.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I did hear about his poetry book this morning.
I actually heard about that.
I haven't about that, that wasI didn't, I haven't read it.
But I.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I'm not a reader, because I'm pretty sure I have
undiagnosed ADHD and I justcan't focus, but but I can read
poems because they're short, soI was thinking of looking them
up.
I just didn't have time forthis.
He also won three Grammy Awardsfor his audio books.
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Many of his books deal with thetopic of religious faith, which
was central to the way heapproached his life and his
death.
And there again, as we havesaid before, that man lived the
true Christian life.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
That is 100% accurate .
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yes, yes, man lived the true christian life that is,
that is, 100 accurate.
Yes, yes, um, while serving asthe 39th president of the united
states, jimmy carter, who diedon december 29th at the age of
100, brokered a peace dealbetween israel and egypt,
pioneered a federal energyprogram and reassured the nation
that it was still shaken by thereassured.
A nation that was still shakenby the reassured.
A nation that was still shakenby the Watergate scandal.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I read that wrong and I saw it as Waterloo.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
You thought.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
ABBA was involved.
I thought ABBA was coming in.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
No, no ABBA in this story, damn it.
Carter inherited the economicquagmire of the stagflation, a
combination of high inflationand unemployment and slow
economic growth.
He managed to decrease thebudget deficit and create some 8
million jobs during his time inoffice, but inflation and
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interest rates continued to riseToward the end of the
presidency, carter createdanother new cabinet-level
department.
That's when he created theDepartment of Education to
expand social services tochildren and their families.
That's probably why a lot ofpeople hate him.
um, yeah, probably yeah yeah,because he cared about, yeah,
people that weren't rich um.
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Carter's greatest legacy,however, might just be the way
he approached life following hispresidency and that is what I
have.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Oh, I have always been under the impression that
he was not a very good presidentat the time, but that
everything after his presidencywas but and I don't necessarily
think he was a bad president.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I just think he was really really way too far ahead
of his time, like people werenot ready to hear the stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
No, and I think he wanted to say I think Reagan
ended up getting a lot of creditfor.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Stuff Carter put into motion because the release of
the hostages yeah.
From what I understand, Carter,that was all negotiated by
Carter, but it was.
They were released after Reagantook office.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
So it was like the day after or something Right, so
he got all the credit for it,but it was really carter's
administration that did it right.
So, yep, I think that's whatthe problem maybe was yep.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
So he was inaugurated at the age of 52, which was
relatively young, um with aseries of unfortunate events,
namely the the Iran hostagecrisis, causing discord during
Carter's final year in office,he failed to win the reelection
in 1980.
However, he bounced back with auniquely strong post-presidency
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.
He had decades of possibilityahead of him and when he left
the White House in 1981, hechose to devote the latter half
of his life to continued publicservice.
He chose to devote the latterhalf of his life to continued
public service.
In 1982, in partnership withEmory University, he established
the Carter Center, anorganization dedicated to
promoting peace and well-beingaround the globe.
Carter and his wife Rosalyn,who died in November 2023 at the
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age of 96, famously volunteeredwith Habitat for Humanity for
decades, and he brought toaction what most presidents only
speak about so he was working.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
There's a great picture of him at 90, freaking
five years old with the blackwith the black eye because he
fell the day before, hit hishead and then.
And then they show him and he'snot just like symbolically
building this house, he isholding an air hammer at 90
fucking five years old and likefocusing on what he's doing,
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like he's working with the wholeside of his face black from a
bruise.
yep, yep, the man is intense,like just he isitat.
Let me just tell you aboutHabitat.
Okay, because I know somebodywho has a Habitat house, we went
and helped build it.
Okay, so that is a.
It's a lot different situationthan I was always under the
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impression of.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I have volunteered for Habitat a couple of times
too, and built houses, yeah, soI know a little bit about it.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
So when you are picked to get a Habitat house,
you have to go through.
Participate.
Well, not just that, but youhave to go through months and I
mean months of fixing yourcredit, getting the loan.
I was always under theimpression they built this house
, it was yours.
Bang, have a nice day.
You have to get a mortgage.
You have to get a mortgage.
You have to get a mortgage.
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You have to have.
There's so many requirementsfor these houses.
You have to participate inother people's houses.
You have to give so many hoursto other people, and then you
have to give so many hours toyourself, and then you have to
have so many of your people, somany of your people hours.
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Yes, many of your people, somany of your people hours.
Yes, so we, because she workedfor us, this girl.
She had worked for us forforever.
Um, we all went to help her acouple.
Uh, was it just once a time, Idon't remember, but it was.
It was a load of fun yeah youknow I feel kind of bad for the
poor foreman that has to dealwith people who don't know how
to swing a hammer because he'sgetting frustrated all day.
But the cool thing about it wasbecause the day we went was
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pretty much just her family kindof a situation her family and
her friends situation, Becauseall of our hours also that day
counted towards her hours.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So if you bring a friend, their hours count
towards your hours, Right?
So her house was probably.
I mean the frame had gone, wehad put the frame up, the
roofing frame was going up andthey were putting plywood up and
we all got to sign.
So you got to.
You know, I wrote my meatballrecipe and where the kitchen was
going to be.
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So it's just, it's a really coolthing and I didn't realize that
it was.
And they have such a hard timefinding, especially here.
Yes, because you know the priceof land has quadrupled in the
last four years, so it's verydifficult to find land here.
Yeah, for them to build houses,but it's, it's a really cool
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yeah, I participated in it twice.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Both times I organized for our um office to
do it oh, yeah, yeah and thatwas fun and the first house that
we worked on.
They were just putting up theum two by fours for the walls,
like I mean it was a floor andtwo by fours, right and we did
the same way I'll sign our nameson the two by fours for the
walls, like I mean, it was afloor and two by fours and we
did the same way.
I'll sign our names on the twoby fours, like that'll be in the
inside the walls.
Yeah, um, and then the.
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So we didn't really meetanybody participating in the
house yet with that one, but thenext one we did.
We were doing final touches inthe house and it was a single
dad with a couple kids and he,they came and like his family,
came and like our office and hisfamily all worked together.
Oh my gosh, it was.
It was so much fun it's quite a.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
It's a very moving experience and when um we ended
up going today, they turned thekeys over to her.
Yeah, it was a very emotionaltime because, literally, we have
known this girl since she was ababy.
Like her mom worked for us andI knew her since she was.
I babysat her, I babysat hersisters, not her, but I'm very
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familiar with her family so itwas really cool to see her.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
It is a neat thing.
So if you're looking for a wayto give back to your community,
highly recommend it.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah, very humbling, very.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yep.
So next I want to talk aboutthe Carter Center, which is
really his big legacy that heleaves behind.
So in 1982, Carter became theUniversity Distinguished
Professor at Emory University inAtlanta, Georgia, and with
Rosalind Carter he founded theCarter Center, the nonpartisan,
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which I love that part of itnonpartisan yeah.
And nonprofit center.
Addresses national andinternational issues of public
policy.
Addresses national andinternational issues of public
policy.
Carter Center staff andassociates have joined the
president in efforts to resolveconflict, promote democracy,
protect human rights and preventdisease and other afflictions.
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The center has spearheaded theinternational effort to
eradicate guinea worm disease.
I don't know if I want to knowwhat guinea worm disease.
I don't know if I want to knowwhat a guinea worm disease is.
I don't either, but it's poisedto be the second human disease
in history to be eradicated.
Like that's a huge deal.
Yeah, I did see something onthe news about it last night,
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but I didn't hear really anymore than that.
But anyway, the permanentfacility of the carter
presidential center wasdedicated in october 1986 and it
includes the jimmy carterlibrary museum uh, it's
administered by the nationalarchives and it is open to
visitors at the historical parkand planes administered by by
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the National Park Service.
Until 2020, Jimmy and RosalindCarter volunteered one week a
year for Habitat for Humanity, anonprofit organization that
helps needy people in the UnitedStates and in other countries
renovate and build homes forthemselves.
He also taught Sunday school inthe Maranatha Baptist Church of
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Plains.
The Carters have three sons,one daughter, nine grandsons One
is deceased Threegranddaughters, five
great-grandsons and ninegreat-granddaughters.
Good Lord, that's a familyright there.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
That is.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Carter will be remembered for governing with a
sense of morality and honesty inhis approach to both foreign
affairs and domestic matters.
The late president said in 1978, human rights is the soul of
our foreign policy.
He maintained his commitment tohuman rights in his projects
with the Carter Center and hewas awarded the 2002 Nobel Peace
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Prize for his decades ofuntiring effort to find peaceful
solutions to internationalconflicts, to advance democracy
and human rights and to promoteeconomic and social development.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I only ever remember hearing about his daughter.
I think she had a little bit oftrouble.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, I don't think I realized his family was so big.
I didn't either.
They think she had a little bitof trouble.
Yeah, I don't think I realizedhis family was so big.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
I didn't either.
I know because my mom or my dador one of them.
Apparently she would come toOcean City all the time and get
into some trouble in Ocean City.
From what I understand, I haveheard that she was a partier.
All right, but don't quote meallegedly because you, I don't
want the carter.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
No, I should come.
No, no, I'm gonna, probably I'mgonna reinforce that thought
later on.
Okay, look at that, look at meknowing shit next, I wanted to
share some fun facts about jimmycarter.
Fun facts, fun facts.
Uh.
So jimmy carter was on homeimprovement, really, yes, yes,
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tim allen, home improvement.
So one of the most popularsitcoms in the 1990s was home
improvement.
Tim allen's first leadingproject, carter, had a brief
cameo in season 3, episode 18.
In the episode, tim allen'scharacter, tim taylor, and his
wife compete to see who canbuild a house faster as a part
of habitat for humanity, anorganization carter has been a
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longtime supporter of.
Carter appears at the end ofthe episode in a televised
message to the taylors tim, whatcan I say?
Crews are working around theclock to repair what you built.
That's funny.
That is cute.
Another fun fact is the smilingpeanut.
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There is a 13-foot-tall smilingpeanut statue that debuted in
1976 by the Indiana DemocraticParty as a part of Carter's
presidential campaign, becauseCarter's dad was a peanut farmer
as a part of Carter'spresidential campaign.
Because Carter's dad was apeanut farmer, it draws a
connection between Georgia'siconic crop while bearing a
smile reminiscent of Carter's.
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The peanut is made of solidfoam sprayed over a series of
metal hoops covered with chickenwire.
But here's the fun part.
It has moved around over theyears, but today stands in
Plains and currently stands at120 Buena Vista Road.
What's even more interestingabout the roadside attraction is
a certain local legend.
There's a hole in the back ofit which was carved by a secret
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service to ensure there were noassassins or bombs hidden in the
peanut.
Oh, that's funny.
Oh, that's funny.
And while we're talking secretservice, um, I enjoyed doing
this as well, because itreminded me of an old friend who
has probably since passed,because it's been, oh my gosh, I
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don't even know anyway.
Anyway, I digress.
Uh, when I worked in the casinoas a cocktail waitress and I
met my husband, he was a casinohost, so he rubbed elbows with
all the rich, the well-to-dos,correct, and which meant you
know, big tips, dinners, drinks,like all these things.
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So I got to get in on thataction when I met my husband.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
This was also to to back it up for you.
This was also before everystate had casinos, so there was
literally only nevada jerseyatlantic city was?
Did new york have, I think?
I think the indian reservations?
Oh, they did, they did floridahad one and mohican sun probably
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was here, but anyway, marylanddidn't have them.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Pennsylvania didn't have them, no, and nobody else
had casinos.
So he had a customer that wouldcome in and he was an older man
and he was retired SecretService, which is just badass in
and of itself.
He had covered a number ofpresidents.
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Of course he didn't share awhole bunch of information, but
he would tell the best stories.
He went to South America onceto protect the Pope.
He had to frisk nuns, whichsounded exciting.
But for whatever reason, hehated Jimmy Carter.
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That's crazy.
Hated Jimmy Carter, and hewould never really say why,
except he just hated JimmyCarter.
So I don't know if this guy wasa staunch Republican and
Jimmy's policies were just waytoo crazy for him, or if
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guarding him as Secret Servicewas a nightmare of some sort.
I don't know.
Maybe I don't know.
I can't imagine that he wouldhave been a problem, the only
thing I can think of is if hewanted to be in the crowd too
much and around the people toomuch, which would make it hard,
but yeah, yeah, he could notstand jimmy carter.
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That man was from maine, though, and he taught me how to eat a
whole lobster properly, head totoe, and not waste any of it,
and I am thankful forever forthat, um so, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
I just was looking up , um, do you know what, because
the Service, this fascinates thefuck out of me how the Secret
Service has a special the codename for the president and the
family.
And do you know what?
His one?
No, his was Deacon Perfect.
Rosalind was Lotus Petal, amyCarter was Dynamo, chip Carter
(45:29):
was Diamond, jack Carter wasDerby and Jeff Carter was
Deckhand.
Chip Carter was Diamond, jackCarter was Derby and Jeff Carter
was Deckhand.
That is also a fun fact.
Ronald Reagan was Rawhide.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
That's perfect.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
And Joe Biden is Celtic.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Well, shouldn't we not know that?
Speaker 3 (45:45):
yet?
No, I don't think they.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Well, what's the point of having a code name if
everybody knows it?
Speaker 3 (45:51):
That is a great question.
Obama was Rennegade.
I like it.
It's pretty cool yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
That is fun.
Next fun fact Jimmy Carter sawa UFO.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
That is a fun fact.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
It seems to be a theme with our shows here lately
.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
It's really UFO heavy here.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
One of the longest running strange stories to
surround Carter was the time hesaw a UFO.
While the exact dates of thesighting is unclear, the story
goes that after a dinner morethan 50 years ago, carter said
he and several other people sawsomething in the sky.
A kind of green light appearedin the western sky.
This was right after sundown.
(46:34):
It got brighter and brighterand then it eventually
disappeared.
It didn't have any solidsubstance to it, it was just a
very peculiar looking light.
None of us could understandwhat it was.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
I mean in the south.
Where was this?
In the south?
So how far south?
No, you didn't say South.
So where was it?
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I didn't see anywhere .
I don't think it was in thestory.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Oh, the only reason I asked that is was it the
Northern Lights?
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Well, he clarified in another interview years later
that while it was anunidentified flying object, he
didn't necessarily mean a flyingsaucer.
It was unidentified as far aswe're concerned.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
But I think it's impossible in my opinion some
people may disagree to havespace people from other planets
or other stars to come, which isexactly what I say, oh well,
and that on now see him sayingthat so he was president and
roswell was prior to himbecoming president, so he would
(47:44):
have had access, although Idon't think they let him have
access.
I think that's like one spotthe president just can't go like
I don't think they're evenallowed there.
yeah, but that's the only reason.
I honest to god, that is theonly reason I would want to be
president, Like on January 20that 5 pm.
I would be like we're going toRoswell Right now.
Not now, but right now.
(48:04):
Fuck this ball, Fuck everythingelse.
We're getting in the we're thefire Air Force One up because we
are going to Vegas.
I want to know.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I want to know what is at Area 51.
So the next little fun fact Ileft you a picture which I will
post up on our Facebook pagelater, but it's a picture of
Jimmy Carter and Willieter andwillie nelson sitting on a couch
together at merriweather, atmerriweather post pavilion in
maryland in 1980.
I have seen concerts atmerriweather post pavilion um.
(48:41):
So the next fun fact is thatjimmy carter was a rock and roll
president, as variety magazineput it.
Carter was remembered as theultimate music-loving president,
which I would have thoughtClinton was, or even Obama.
But he was not only a huge fanof big names like the Allman
Brothers and Bob Dylan, but theywere also fans of his.
(49:03):
The close relationship Carterhad with music and musicians was
the focus of a documentarycalled Jimmy Carter Rock and
Roll and roll president, whichyou can watch on max maybe I
will.
Yeah.
In the documentary, carterlaughs as he revealed that when
willie nelson came to stay atthe white house, he smoked
marijuana with one of his sonswith one of his sons.
(49:26):
Sure he did.
Yeah, that's what I thoughtwhen I read it, but just the
fact that he would admit it atall in the white house like he
did.
Yeah, that's what I thoughtwhen I read it, but just the
fact that he would admit it atall in the White House he did
not inhale, though.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
No, that was.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Bush Jr.
So next fun fact Jimmy missedout on being valedictorian.
When Jimmy Carter wasgraduating from Plains High
School in 1941, he was slated tobe the valedictorian but missed
the chance because he skipped aday of classes.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
See that's why I never skipped a day.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Also, I was not valedictorian he reportedly went
to see a movie on april fool'sday in america with some other
senior boys.
Carter received zeros for thatday and became the salutarian
instead.
It was hardcore back then, yeahyeah so those are all my fun
(50:17):
facts.
Do you have any fun facts thatyou know about?
Speaker 3 (50:19):
jimmy carter, I did.
I looked up one because I gotcurious and we had a minute
because nicole tried to die onme choking on my own spit.
Yeah she, she tried to die alittle bit ago and, um, I just
sat here waiting for her to makea decision, so I found out.
Now I do know.
I think they name some kind ofa ship after all the presidents.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
That sounds right.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
I know the Navy because I know there's the USS
JFK.
There was, I don't know if itstill is because I had friends,
my friends in the Navy were onthe JFK, which is a whole story
for another day.
Heather and her Navy friendsyeah, okay, and so anyway.
The USS Jimmy Carter is thethird and final Seawolf-class
(51:11):
nuclear-powered fast-attacksubmarine in the United States
Navy, commissioned in 2005,.
She is named for the 39thpresident, jimmy Carter, the
only president to have beenqualified on submarines, the
only submarine to have beennamed for a living president.
And the Jimmy Carter is one ofthe few vessels and only the
third submarine of the US Navyto have been named for a living
(51:31):
president.
And the jimmy carter is one ofthe few vessels and only the
third submarine of the us navyto have been named for a living
person.
Uh, extensively modifiedsometimes cries, it's like it's
pretty much a one-of-a-kindthing.
Um, you know, it's unlike anyother navy submarine.
It's fitted with with smallthrusters at its bow and stern,
(51:56):
allowing it to quietly hover inplace for extended periods
during undersea spy missions.
Today, details of the Carter'smissions remain among the
Defense Department's mosttightly held secrets.
That is so badass Great, so hegot a whole, because he, I, I,
when I was looking through thathe served on a, on a, um, a
(52:18):
Seawolf.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
So that's pretty cool , very cool, pretty cool stuff.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah yeah, thank you for the fun fact.
Sure, all right, so thanks fornot dying.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
Nobody wants to hear me talk to myself, just a little
spittle, that's all.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
So we've gone through his biography, his presidency,
some of his legacy, some funfacts, and now I'd like to wrap
it up with some wisdom fromJimmy Carter.
I found this and I thought itwas really kind of neat, his
view on different things.
So the first one, jimmy Carter,on community service.
(52:56):
I have learned that ourgreatest blessings come when we
are able to improve the lives ofothers, and this is especially
true when those others aredesperately poor or in need.
And I mean, how much do we needa president that feels like
that right now?
And that's not even a dig atanybody Like none of them care.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
People need help man, it's tough times.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah.
So the next one is Jimmy Carter, on finding purpose.
I have one life and one chanceto make it count for something.
I'm free to choose thatsomething, that something.
The something that I've chosenis my faith.
My faith demands that I dowhatever I can, wherever I can,
whenever I can, for as long as Ican, with whatever I have, to
(53:41):
try to make a difference.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
And that should be the very definition of a
Christian.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
What would Jesus do?
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Yeah, what would Jimmy Carter do?
Speaker 3 (53:53):
That's what we have to start saying we're going to
get bracelets.
I mean it's the same bracelet.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
It's the same initials we really don't have to
.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Just a rebrand really You're going to hell.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
Not just for that.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
Jimmy Carter on human rights.
The rule of law is a processrather than an end product.
The desire for freedom andjustice is a most powerful force
in the lives of sufferingpeople.
Their plight expose the humanrights crimes, rescue victims
from their oppressors and letthem join us in sharing the
(54:39):
benefits of the rule of lawsthat provide justice and lives
of equality and peace.
Yes, I thought Jimmy said itway better than I did.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
He just had that lovely accent that southern
drawl.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
Yeah, that southern drawl, yep, that Georgia peach.
Gotta love that southern drawl.
Yeah, that southern drawl, yep,that Georgia peach.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
Gotta love a southern drawl Yep.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Jimmy Carter on bipartisanship you learn a lot
about a man when you run againsthim for president and when you
stand in his shoes and assumethe responsibilities that he has
borne so well, and perhaps evenmore after you both lay down
the burdens of high office andwork together in a nonpartisan
spirit of patriotism and serviceAgain, something that I hope we
(55:18):
can find our way to.
We got to work together, people.
Jimmy Carter on gender equalityso this was the 70s, so gender
equality was still a very newconcept and girls largely caused
(55:55):
by a false interpretation ofcarefully selected religious
text and a growing tolerance ofviolence and warfare,
unfortunately following theexample set during my lifetime
by the United States.
Yeah, yeah, that was prettyintense.
Yeah, yeah, wow.
And to even call out like hisown religion, like you guys are
making these rules up out of theBible.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
So yeah, picking and choosing Right yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
Jimmy Carter on the horror of war.
War may sometimes be anecessary evil, but no matter
how necessary, it is always anevil, never a good.
We will not learn how to livetogether in peace by killing
each other's children.
That's true.
You know, that's something thathas just always like.
Why?
Why is that the route we take?
Why?
(56:40):
Why can't we?
Speaker 3 (56:41):
because human beings are an incredibly violent animal
.
It's crazy.
I mean, really, it's the.
If there is a cancer on thisplanet, it is the human beings.
I mean there is a cancer onthis planet, it is the human
beings.
I mean there is no othercreature on this planet that can
be as vicious.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
Towards its own kind.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
Any kind.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
Right Anything.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
Yeah, true, I mean, we have literally gone through
locusts through this planet,mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah, going through likelocusts through this planet and
yeah yeah, say what you wantabout, like we talked about last
week with the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
I don't know that we're that far away from it no,
and I don't want to participatein it no uh, jimmy carter, on
peacekeeping.
History teaches perhaps very fewclear lessons, but surely one
such lesson, learned by theworld at great cost, is that
aggression unopposed becomes acontagious disease.
(57:41):
It's true, oh, jimmy, jimmy, onovercoming hardships, our
American values are not luxuriesbut necessities, not the salt
in our bread but the breaditself.
Our common vision of a free andjust society is our greatest
source of cohesion at home andstrength abroad, greater even
(58:04):
than the bounty of all materialblessings.
Speaker 3 (58:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
Yep, I agree, a million percent.
All right, we got two moreJimmy Carter and the secret to
his marriage with RosalindCarter.
At the end of the day, we tryto become reconciled and
overcome all the differencesthat arose during the day.
We also make up and give eachother a kiss before we go to
sleep.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
And that's why they were married.
I think it was like 70 yearsthey were married.
Yeah, they were a long timeVery young, yeah, yeah.
I don't know, how do youtolerate someone for 70 years?
Speaker 2 (58:40):
I don't even tolerate myself for 70 years.
And finally, Jimmy Carter onthe future of the United States.
Sometimes I'm fearful andsometimes I'm hopeful, but
overwhelmingly I'm hopeful.
Speaker 3 (58:54):
I have confidence in the basic integrity of the
American people.
Well, somebody should haveconfidence in our basic.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
I wonder how he felt about that in his last years,
because I feel like ourintegrity has been compromised I
don't know that we really everhad it true, that is true I mean
mean it's not just this country, you know, it's all the
countries in the world, it'sjust human beings.
Speaker 3 (59:19):
I mean it's just we're not good to each other,
we're wretched, we're just like,we're locusts, and it's a shame
, because it doesn't always haveto be that way and there are
good people, jimmy carter beingone, and that he lived to be 100
years old.
So you know, maybe living withhate is not good, you're in
(59:44):
trouble, I know, everybody knowsI'm gonna have cancer.
Hate cancer, I'm going to havecancer.
Hate cancer, I'm going to havehate cancer.
It's from pushing all the hatedown.
I have stomach problems.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
So this was our tribute to Jimmy Carter.
We felt it was right to do itthis week.
So this will also be my lastpodcast for the next month, with
no wine, because I am againdoing dry january, so if I don't
(01:00:19):
slur as much, in the next.
Uh, she won't be as gigglyepisodes and I don't giggle as
much.
Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
You know why I thought she was gonna drop a
bombshell on me here on say thisis my last one, like again, I
quit.
Nobody wants nobody, I don'twant to hear myself talk.
Today we had an end-of-the-yeartalk at work and I'm not going.
It's not Anyway.
So basically it was a safetytalk.
(01:00:48):
You know, obviously we havesafety talks and we're not
allowed to have earbuds.
Was a safety talk.
You know, obviously we havesafety talks and, uh, we're not
allowed to have earbuds, and Isaid that's going to be very
unfortunate that I have to bealone with myself and nothing
else running through my head forlike nine hours a day.
Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
I feel like it's and did they say?
Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
never mind you specifically, you listen to
earbuds because we don't needthat kind of so you'll just
sneak one in no, I know, I knowsafety first safety, first I get
it yeah, it's just so.
Today is new year's eve.
We, we, uh.
(01:01:29):
We record on tuesdays yes andum.
Yeah, I'm not doing anything.
I'm leaving here and I'm goingstraight home and I'm gonna make
myself.
I don't know what I'm gonnamake myself, because I don't
remember what I have.
Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I have a house full of people in the other room they
have made it very difficult torecord this podcast shh, don't
tell them.
Said that I don't think any ofthem listen so don't worry about
it, but we do have a shit tonof food that I am way excited
about, like we are grillingsteaks tonight Steaks, ew, no,
(01:02:03):
not steaks.
Grilling steaks.
Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Oh, that's fun.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Potatoes, cheese, lots of cheese.
Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
Can't go wrong with cheese Cocktail shrimp Cheese
cheese lots of cheese Can't gowrong with cheese, cocktail
shrimp.
I can't imagine I'll make ittill midnight.
No, probably not I'm tired.
I woke up early this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
I woke up at 6 am this morning.
I actually woke up before 6 amand I laid in bed until 6.
And then I just got up.
I was like, just forget it.
I was like, of all the dayswhen I have to stay up till
midnight tonight, seriously, Ihave to wake up at 6 am today.
Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
See, I'm an early person.
You know that about me.
I'm always up that early.
But now that I'm getting olderI do sleep in, although Joe is
like I don't think sleepinguntil 7.30 is sleeping in and
I'm like I mean it is when I getup at five every morning.
It is for sure, yeah, but Ididn't, I don't, I'm just tired
(01:02:57):
today.
Yeah, so I will not be makingit to midnight.
Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Okay, I'll tell you all about it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
I think it's going to just probably be a ball
dropping and then happy new, andthen it will be 12.01.
Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
And we'll all go to bed.
Yeah, I know, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Yeah, I heard it's supposed to rain in New York
City tonight too.
Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Oh God, that makes it even more miserable.
I can't, I don't know, I don'teven want to go, like they're
having all this shit going onaround here.
I do not want to go to Berlinand watch whatever they're
dropping Nope Bethany's droppingsomething.
I don't want to go see that.
Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
I know my youngest is going to the beach, to the
Rusty Rudder.
They have a clear tent forfireworks.
I'm like, do you boo?
Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
You know what that reminds me?
I have to drive freaking homethrough Dewey Ew.
I know.
Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
We better wrap this up, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
That that's not going to be fun.
They're already going to bedrinking, so thanks for
listening.
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