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August 11, 2025 29 mins

In this raw and deeply encouraging episode of The LINC Talks Podcast, Pastor Bobby Bogard sits down with longtime friend and ministry leader Dan Seaborn, founder of Winning at Home. Together, they reflect on decades of ministry experience—offering an honest, unfiltered look at the hidden struggles many leaders face behind the scenes.

Dan opens up about the pressure of performance, the slow creep of pride, the pain of personal failure, and the journey to rediscovering identity—not in the pulpit, platform, or public opinion, but in the unwavering love of the Father. From burnout culture to comparison traps, the conversation uncovers the emotional and spiritual toll ministry can take if left unchecked.

But this episode isn’t just about identifying problems—it’s about hope, healing, and practical steps toward health. Through stories of personal trial, biblical insight, and years of pastoral wisdom, Dan and Bobby offer a compelling call to slow down, confess, rest, and lean fully into grace.

Whether you’re leading in ministry or walking through a difficult season, this conversation will remind you that your worth is not in what you do—but in who you belong to.

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