In this powerful episode of the Linc Talks Podcast, Muta and Christine Mwenya sit down with Pastor Bobby and Rose Bogard to explore the “Four F-Words” that every leader inevitably faces: Failure, Fatigue, Fear, and Fraud. With decades of ministry, marriage, and leadership experience, the Bogards share honest stories and hard-earned wisdom on how these challenges show up in both personal and professional life—and how to navigate them with faith, resilience, and grace.
From the pressures of early ministry to seasons of burnout and identity struggles, Bobby and Rose offer a transparent look at the moments that shaped their leadership. They unpack how fear and failure often intertwine, how unchecked fatigue can quietly erode relationships, and how spiritual fraud—believing lies about ourselves or others—can rob us of our God-given identity.
What emerges is a compelling conversation about perseverance, self-awareness, and the power of truth. Whether you’re a young leader just starting out or a seasoned one facing a new season, this episode is filled with encouragement, practical insight, and the reminder that your worth is not defined by your mistakes but by your identity in Christ.
Don’t miss this authentic and hope-filled dialogue—and be sure to share it with someone who needs the reminder that they’re not alone in the fight.
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