May 15, 2025 • 50 mins
What happens when brave women decide to break their silence? Rising Above Narcissistic Abuse Volume 3 brings together survivors who've transformed their pain into purpose, offering hope to anyone trapped in the isolating cycle of narcissistic relationships.
These powerful stories reveal the many faces of narcissistic abuse - emotional manipulation, gaslighting, financial control, and psychological warfare - tactics designed to keep victims disoriented and dependent. As anthology creator Ina Johnson Myers explains, many victims don't recognize what's happening to them, thinking they're "just being too sensitive" while their sense of reality is systematically dismantled.
The authors share intimate details of their journeys: how Eula recognized God's voice telling her "you need to get out," how Regina's unexplained physical ailments mysteriously vanished after leaving her abuser, and how Vicki found herself financially trapped despite previously being independent. Each story illuminates the gradual, insidious nature of narcissistic control, where what begins as love transforms into a cage.
What sets this anthology apart is its unflinching honesty about the recovery process. These women don't just tell you about the abuse - they reveal the exact strategies that helped them heal. From practicing gratitude and "scrubbing your mind daily with the word" to using poetry as a way to reclaim their voice, their practical wisdom serves as both validation and roadmap.
Most powerfully, these stories demonstrate how sharing your truth creates ripples of healing that extend far beyond yourself. As these brave authors step into their authentic power, they create permission for others to do the same.
Are you ready to break the silence around narcissistic abuse? Whether you're personally affected or supporting someone who is, this anthology offers the validation, strategies, and hope needed to move from surviving to thriving. Available May 15th on Amazon - let these voices guide you toward reclaiming your own.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey there, I'm Jacqueline Cox, but you might
know me as ListenLinda.
Um, where do I even begin?
I guess you could say I wearmany hats Podcast host,
entrepreneur, Mrs Illinois, usa,and so much more but it all
started with a simple passion totell stories and empower others
(00:26):
.
Building a platform wasn't easy.
There were days when I wonderedif anyone was even listening.
But then something amazinghappened.
I realized the power of myvoice.
Suddenly, my words werereaching people, touching lives,
making a difference.
Now I see my mission clearly tocreate spaces where every voice
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can be heard, because when welisten to each other's stories,
we grow, we connect, we becomestronger.
Every voice matters, everystory has power.
So what's your story?
I'm here to listen and togetherwe can make our voices echo far
and wide.
To be a guest on Listen Linda.
Contact Jacqueline Cox onFacebook Messenger.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yes, and I am back, season eight.
I'm super excited and we arekicking down the door with the
women from Rising AboveNarcissistic Abuse, volume 3.
Let's give each other a roundof applause.
We got the ladies in thebuilding tonight.
(01:33):
Yes, I am here.
I'm with my girl, ina.
We got Eula, we got Vicky, wegot Regina and we are in the
building to talk to you guystonight about rising above
narcissistic abuse.
This is the third volume of thetrilogy, ok, and we could not
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be more excited to give you guysmore information about this.
Let's start with Miss Ina.
Ina, tell me what made youstart this anthology and how
important is it to you thatpeople who are rising above
narcissistic abuse voices beheard?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Actually, this was an assignment from God.
This anthology was anassignment from God because I
had no desire to do this when Iwent over to I think it was Rome
, when I was talking aboutnarcissistic abuse and the
difference between healthy andnarcissistic loving
relationships.
God gave me that vision at thattime that, although I'm sharing
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my voice right now, that heeven gave me the name, that this
platform is going to host manywomen sharing their voice, not
just in Rome but across theworld sharing their voice, not
just in Rome but across theworld, and for those people who
don't know who you are and yourbackground and your brand, can
(03:15):
you give us a little moreinsight about who you are and
what it is that?
you do and a little bit aboutyour background.
Thank you, I am Ina JohnsonMyers.
I'm a seven-time best-sellingauthor, an international speaker
and a resiliency coach.
After 24 years of the military,this is just something that,
even though while I was in themilitary I was dealing with this
, I didn't know what it was.
Many of us that have been innarcissistic relationships we
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don't know what it is.
We think that we're being, youknow, drama and dramatical, you
know being too sensitive, but itwas something that I was
dealing with, like I said, backin, you know, while I was in the
military and then, after I gotout retired, it was still
something that I dealt with.
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I actually had a relationshipbefore the military that but I
thought that was a was a one anddone situation.
I did not understand themindset of that.
So this is something I said,using those experiences, and God
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just gave.
Like I said when I had my finalone, my ex it was just
something that God's like yes,this is what you're going to do.
I lost my voice and through, youknow, him building me up,
through him empowering me, hegave me my voice back.
When I started this, thisjourney, I was in my prayer
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closet, having a panic attack onthe ground, and he's the one
that told me to get up.
I audibly heard this voice toget up and get in front of my
computer, and he started thiswhole process for me using my
voice and helping other peopleuse their voice to help people,
like I said, around the world toshare our journeys.
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Narcissistic abuse was actuallya thing before COVID.
Covid was the catalyst thatstarted tearing the walls off of
this thing, and so, because ofCOVID, so many people have been
able to speak out, but they'reusing their voice to speak out
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on a global platform, becausethis is something that we
probably won't get it resolved,but we want to give women and
men have that situation too, butwe deal with women to give
women the option and theunderstanding of what it is and
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give them the tools to help themget the healing they need.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
A lot of times, you know people, when they hear the
word abuse, they always thinkthat it's just physical.
And when dealing withnarcissists is way deeper than
that.
It could be physical, mentally,emotionally abuse, and I'm so,
so, very grateful that you havethis platform and you're giving
people the opportunity to have,like you say, like to have their
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voice and speak out forthemselves, because a lot of
times, well, people who don'tunderstand the importance of
speaking out againstnarcissistic abuse.
Can you give some examples ofwhat that looks like?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
For many people it depends on that person, but what
it looks like is inconsistentbehaviors.
What you say and what they doare two totally different things
, and you know what they do aretwo totally different things.
It's about manipulation.
A lot of times in narcissisticrelationships, we often or
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people often, you know do thingsbecause narcissists first of
all love empaths out of your wayto please.
You know to please, or?
to go out of your way to be thatyou know, that ride or die
person, that empathetic personthat's always there, you know so
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, and because of that it gets,it gets used against us, gets
manipulated and it ends upbecoming a very what you thought
was a relationship or amarriage ends up becoming a cage
, because it's like you don't.
You see the behaviors but youcan't believe that someone that
loved you or you thought lovedyou so much at the beginning can
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actually be this abusive orthis manipulative in the
relationship, in therelationship, and oftentimes,
like I said, when we're talkingabout narcissistic abuse, it's
also financial, because theystrip you financially so that
you can't leave the relationship.
If you have nowhere to go, ifyou have no money, then you have
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to accept this abuse.
And that's one of the mainthings that you know.
We see with women that theystay in those relationships
because they don't have thefinancial means, even though
they were six figure earnersbefore the relationship.
They kind of manipulate you to,to move you out of that six
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figure income or you knowwhatever, so that you're
constantly depending on them andonce, once you've, you know,
done, done that and you'redepending on them, then, like I
said, the manipulation and abuseand the gaslighting overdrive
absolutely absolutely so in yourjourney I know you've done
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three, three.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
This is your third um anthology for rising above
narcissistic abuse.
But tell me, how did you get incontact with these ladies?
How?
How did you guys connect?
How did you reach out and getthese wonderful women?
Because just from the look ofthe names of the chapters I know
this book gonna be bomb.
So I cannot wait and I'mtelling all my followers y'all
need to go get this book,because when y'all just hear the
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names of the chapters you knowit's going to be good Okay.
So how did you get in touchwith Miss Eula, with Vicky, with
JJ, with Regina?
How did you get in contact withthese ladies?
How did that come about?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I put out a call for it and I'm so grateful.
Not everybody wants to usetheir voice to share because
there's so much shame that'sinvolved in narcissistic abuse,
especially when you're a highincome earner.
You you feel so much shamebecause you can't figure out how
did you get do it?
And because of that, a lot ofwomen that are in the C-suite
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that are going through thiswon't talk about it, but they'll
read the.
You know, read the stories andthey'll get strategies and, you
know, help from the stories.
So this is just about womenthat are bold enough, are
fearless enough to tell theirstory to help those that can't
right now.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Absolutely.
And before we get to talking tothe co-authors, I do have a
cute little video that I madefor Ms Ina and for the women of
Rising Above Narcissistic AbuseValues 1 through 3.
So I'm going to go ahead.
Is it okay if I play it?
And then we get to talking tothe lady, to Ms Ina.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Okay.
In the depths of silence, ourstories find their voice.
I thought I was alone, broken,unworthy, but you're not, we're
not.
Rising Above Narcissistic Abuseis more than a book book, it's
a lifeline.
It helped me understand what Iwas going through.
Volumes 1 through 3 offer abeacon of hope.
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Real stories, real women, realtriumph.
I found the strength to breakmy silence.
These anthologies providestrategies, encouragement and a
path to healing for every womantrapped in the cycle of abuse.
I learned to recognize thesigns of narcissistic abuse
gaslighting, manipulation,emotional blackmail.
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We expose these tactics andempower you to fight back.
I am not a victim.
I am a survivor.
Through these pages, you'llfind a community of women, women
who've walked through fire andemerged stronger.
I found my voice, my strength,my purpose.
Your story matters.
Your healing begins.
Break the silence, reclaim yourpower.
Contact the visionary InaJohnson Myers to get your copy
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of Rising Above NarcissisticAbuse, volumes 1 through 3,
today.
Empower your journey towardshealing.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yes, so I love the video.
Okay, I think that I think thatis amazing what you're doing,
and I'm just glad to have eachone of you.
You ladies, you guys, are sosuper brave and stronger than
what you even know.
A lot of times, like Miss Inasaid, you're so afraid to tell
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your story because you're afraidof what other people may think.
So, just to be brave enough toput pen to paper and to use your
voice to help someone else toget through their trauma or what
they're going through, and tohelp them to break free and know
that if you can do it, they cando it, I just I commend all of
you ladies.
Okay, and I'm going to startwith Ms Eula.
Ms Eula, and your chapter iscalled Out of Messy Comes
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Healing.
From mess to blessed, that'swhat I want to say.
From mess to bless.
How are you doing, miss Eula?
Can you give the audience alittle bit about background,
about yourself, and just whatmade you come up with that title
?
How did that come to you?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yes, I'm a second time entrepreneur and also a
Girl Scout, former Girl Scoutleader, former Scout dead mother
Parents Association president.
I've done it all and I'vealways been a champion for women
to find their voice.
And before this project cameabout, I would speak on panels
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and in a newspaper in regards topostpartum depression, because
that's another issue that womenare going through that's not
talked about enough.
And through my going throughwhat I'm going through and I saw
the call to tell stories, Idecided to tell my story and in
the beginning I went back andforth.
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I didn't reach out right away.
I was like do I want my familyto know how embarrassing, how
hard this is?
Because they didn't know whatwas going on.
They didn't know the story,they just knew what they saw.
What they saw was two peoplewho loved each other and that's
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the image that we portrayed tothe outside world.
You know, but they didn't knowwhat was going on in our inner
world.
Even my inner circle friendsdidn't know my best girlfriend.
She didn't know.
This is something that youdon't share and I wanted to
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speak out and I wanted to.
I found my voice and telling astory, I really found my voice.
I found who eula is again,because eula was always a
champion for women, but then,when it came for me, I wasn't
champion for myself.
I said how could I be aninspiration to my own three
daughters now all, all adultwomen the youngest is 24, the
oldest is 40, should be 43.
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And how could I be an exampleof strong women if I don't show
them what a strong woman lookslike and be an example for them?
So I'm not only doing it for me, but I'm doing it for my
daughters and for mygranddaughters, because they
have to know the signs to lookout for.
They have to know howmanipulative these people are,
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how they gaslight you, how theymake you feel like they really
love you and then they turnaround and they do stuff and
you're sitting there wonderingand blame you.
Never take responsibility forit.
They blame you everything thathappened is your fault and never
, ever take responsibility.
Never, um say I'm sorry.
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And if they say I'm sorry, theyturn around and do something
else.
Yeah, so you know it was veryslow for me to finally realize
that something wasn't right, butthen that nagging voice was
telling me you need to get out.
I kept hearing this naggingvoice, god talking to me as
clear as I'm talking to you now.
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You need to get out.
And when we bought a housetogether and I wasn't even in
the house a year, that voice wastelling me you need to get out.
So when that God is telling youto get out, get out.
Don't question it.
Don't do what I did.
Argue with it, question it.
Get up and do it.
If you don't have money, havean exit plan.
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Figure out how you're going toexit or get out.
Don't do what I did.
Waste so many years trying tofigure it out and trying to
change something that wasn't forme to change from the beginning
.
So I tell women all the timenow if it don't feel right, if
it's too good to be true, it'stoo good to be true, get out.
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Don't question it, don't try tofigure it out.
Don't do what I did.
Make excuses for it.
Get out.
Don't question it, don't try tofigure it out.
Don't do what I did.
Make excuses for it.
Get out, because it could belife or death, literally.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
So in your chapter do you discuss like the things
that happened in your marriage,or was it just him, or were
there other people as well, thatyou had to deal with?
Narcissistic abuse?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Well, I was physically abused before in
another relationship and, um,when I think of abuse, most
times I thought physical.
I never thought aboutpsychological abuse, which is to
me way worse because bruisesheal.
But psychological messes withyour psyche, it messes with your
mind, it messes with yourpsyche, it messes with your mind
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, it messes with your spirit.
You don't know if you're comingor going.
It's very demonic what goes on.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Also have a domino effect on your health, because
you start getting depressed andyou start getting drained
Mentally and physically and then, before you know it, you got
all types of health problems andyou're not understanding what
it's coming from.
But it's coming from, like yousay, that demonic spirit.
It takes a hold of you and itreally takes a lot of prayer and
a lot of manifestation, butalso a lot of courage to get up
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and just say you know what?
Get me behind me, satan.
I'm getting up out of here.
Okay, so I I applaud you, msGuest, for for coming on and
just sharing your story and andand really I just know your
chapter out of messy comes here.
That's a word.
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That is a word because God willtake a mess and turn it into
blessed, and what the enemy havefor your, for your, for you,
for bad, he will always turn itinto good and for the blessings
that he have upon your life.
Sister, you have no idea, justfor getting out and sharing your
testimony, the blessings andsee, god will take you through
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things and people.
I get this all the time and Iactually used it for a title for
one of my books calledMountains Can't Rise Without
Earthquakes, your earth has toshatter under you in order for
that mountain to rise, so thatsame mountaintop that God is
taking you to what the devilthink he's going to take you to
and say, hey, you can have allof this if you could just follow
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me.
What Jesus told him, get theebehind me, say you can give me
what's already mine.
See, when, when, when God tookthat earth and he shattered that
, he did that to build you upfor a time such as now, to help
other people who are goingthrough what they're going
through.
So God bless you, sister, andall of your endeavors, and I am
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so, so proud of you for tellingyour story.
Now let's get to Miss Regina.
Miss Regina, hey Regina, howare you love?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
I am taking it one day at a time and I'm good.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You know what, Regina ?
When I saw your name, I waslike she got a story to tell.
Your last name is Rivers.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Rivers, honey.
Yes, ma'am, like a treestanding by the water, that's
all I kept hearing.
Like a tree standing by thewater.
You shut up.
Why be moved?
You like the rivers.
I said, yes, girl, yes.
So your story chronic emotionalrecovery.
So your story chronic emotionalrecovery.
Before we get into that chapter, and what made you decide to
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write and title your chapterChronic Emotional Recovery, can
you give the audience a littlebit of background about yourself
, what you do and why youdecided to participate in Rising
Above Narcissistic Abuse?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Sure, my name is Virginia Rivers.
I'm a lifelong New York stateresident.
I grew up originally inSkaticoke, which is just outside
of Albany.
I moved down to thePoughkeepsie area of the Hudson
Valley after graduating, newPaltz College.
I'm a writer, I'm a poet.
I performed in Albany, new yorkcity, uh newberg during the
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pandemic.
I took part in some virtualopen mics in philly and texas
and everything.
So that was pretty cool to do.
Um, and my chapter, myexperience with narcissistic
abuse, and I'm glad that youmentioned that.
You know when people thinkabuse it's more than physical,
because I've been researchingdomestic violence since I was 10
years old.
I'm serious about, you know,helping survivors and children
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of domestic abuse survivors.
So in my, in my career as ayouth development practitioner,
the emotional, the verbal, thepsychological, the spiritual,
the legal, the medical all ofthat encompasses abuse which
leads to the physical.
So I share in my story thatwhile my narcissist was not
physically abusive, his verbalabuse, his emotional abuse
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manifested with me physically.
I'm trying to think of anexample.
I suffered a lot of lightsensitivity, like right now I
have lights on and it's fine,the sunlight, I'm okay Now.
Before I had to getprescription sunglasses.
Um, I suffered from thiscondition called arthralgia,
where, um, it wasn't arthritisbut it wasn't fibromyalgia, but
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it hurt to just do basicmovements.
Since he's been gone, myfibromyalgia is gone, rest
activity is gone.
So it's about like dealing withthat type of um constant
challenge and having it manifestin you.
That's something that peopledon't talk about, along with the
financial and the other tacticsthat they use, and, um, I
reached out to miss ida again onsocial media.
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I just kept doing some researchfor my job.
I thought about who I had in mylife as of late and I said I
don't even need to cut thesepeople out, or, thank god,
they're already out of my life.
So I reached out to miss ainaand I explained my story and she
offered me the opportunity toshare my story and I said, yeah,
and I went off of.
You know what I went through,how I conquered and how I'm
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pressing on and see you knowwhat, um, I?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I appreciate that because a lot of people don't
understand that sometimes, whenwe grow up in those environments
, right, we get accustomed tothat and we think that that's
normal because we see it so muchgrowing up, happening around us
in our families, with our moms,with our dads, with our aunts,
with our uncles, and we see allthis different emotional and
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mental abuse, right, and wethink that that's just the norm
and that's just people arguingor how they show they love each
other, ie their love language,but it's not healthy.
And then, like a lot of times Iknow, with my grandmother, she
was a victim and she was also avillain, you know, because they
project the same thing that'shappening to them.
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They project on their kids,their grandkids, and so he dealt
with it with my granddaddy andthen she projected it on my dad
and she projected it on us andhe projected it on us, and it's
just an ongoing cycle untilpeople like you guys say you
know what I'm done with this,I'm not going to take it anymore
and I'm not going to be avictim, I'm going to be
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victorious in what I'mconquering.
And for you to, you know, likeyou say, as of late, get rid of
those people.
I commend you for that, becausea lot of times we get so
accustomed to that, we and we,we feel like, if we let go of
these people who've been in ourlife for so long, because we
have that history with them,that we feel like we want to
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stay attached to them for somereason, we, we just need to be
attached so for you to be likeyou know what.
Forget this.
I'm breaking away from thiscrap.
This is not me, this is notwhat I want for my life, and I'm
going to change it today.
Because when we're in thatwaiting season, we're not
understanding.
All we have to do is leave itat the altar and God will handle
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it.
And God don't bring people say,oh, god, don't, he don't put
you through nothing that youcan't handle, exactly Because
the things that you can't handleyou're supposed to leave at the
altar for him.
You're supposed to let himhandle those things.
God don't want us to be sad, hedon't want us to be emotionally
abused.
That's not what he wants forour life.
But see, sometimes the trickeryof the devil will come in and
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he will see his little nastytail in and he'll make it.
Oh, this person, they just loveyou.
You know, just like if a littlegirl hit a boy and we tell our
boys, oh, she only doing thatbecause she like you.
Or we tell a little girl, oh,he only hit you because he like
you.
I don't tell my kids that, Idon't teach them that, no, if
they hit you they don't like you.
If they hit you, that'ssomething internal that they got
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inside of them, that they'vebeen taught at home.
That's learned behavior.
And once we realize that we cando what Rise above narcissistic
abuse, I think your story yougot another good title.
That's why I tell y'all, thesetitles will really just make you
want to just dab in just offthe titles.
These ladies are talented.
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Okay, because I be having tocome up with a lot of titles for
some of my people.
Okay, these women came up withtheir own titles.
The title her title was Chr.
Title is chronic emotionalrecovery.
So a lot of times you know, Ithink from her title I get I've
been going through thisemotional, emotional turmoil and
it's been a chronic umappearance in my life for so
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long.
Chronic means to keep happeningand keep happening and keep
happening and keep happening andshe's able to break away from
that and to recover throughtelling her story.
Did I get it right?
basically yeah, basically, yes,basically in a nutshell.
But I know that your story ismore in depth than that and I
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know it's a lot of pieces to itand I appreciate you because
when I was telling my story, Iknow I had you know about
mountains.
I had to step away frommountains for months, go back to
therapy After I did 13 years oftherapy to get over the things
I went through.
When I started to actuallyunpack everything and tell my
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story, I had to step away, goback to therapy, go back to
church, talk to my pastor, thenget back in it.
But you know what became ofthat story?
Three years on bestsellers list, 91 days straight, number one
on Amazon.
I'm able to go out and speak topeople, speak to young girls who
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are going through, who havebeen through those things, and
really show them like you knowwhat, if you just be transparent
enough and be open enough, godwill turn your what, your mess
into a what you look healing,into a healing Amen.
So God going to turn your messinto a healing girl.
You have just started.
You have just started and I'mso, so proud of you as well.
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Ms Ina, do you have anythingyou want to add?
Speaker 4 (27:36):
I just want to say you hit it right on the head
about how God is going to taketheir yes and he's going to
multiply that a thousandfold.
I explain to them that whenthey share their story, there
are so many people in theircircle already that are dealing
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with this but have not saidanything to anybody.
This chapter, their chapters,are going to be able to put them
in rooms and places to talk topeople.
You know that I don't know ofany other.
You know type of conversationthat is so hot right now that
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people need the healing.
So these ladies, like I said, Ithank them so much, I am so
proud of them for sharing theirstory, putting their heart and
their soul on those papers sothat the readers can read their
story to get the healing intheir own lives.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Exactly, and when you do that and you transparent and
you open, like you say you dopoetry, I do poetry as well.
My first book was actually apoetry book, and every piece of
literature that I've everwritten since then I always
incorporate poetry before eachchapter.
I'm a 15-time bestseller in twoyears, and that's because
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everything that I do I put Godfirst.
He's my foundation.
He takes me through it.
The way I'm able to open up andbe so transparent in all of my
literature is because I usepoetry.
That was my way to get through.
That's how I'm able to open upand be transparent.
But also, when you tell yourtruth, you're opening up
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doorways for people to telltheirs.
I would never thought thatmountains would be a bestseller
even today, right now, in thetop 100 for three years in a row
.
I would never guess that.
I would never guess that thethings that I have went through
in my life guess that.
I would never guess that.
The things that I have wentthrough in my life narcissistic
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abuse, physical abuse, parentalneglect, child abuse,
miscarriages, all types of stuff.
I had somebody, my first personI was with.
I thought I loved him.
He stomped it.
I was four months pregnant andmy baby got stomped out of my
stomach and my tooth got kickedout my mouth, pregnant, and my
baby got stomped out of mystomach and my tooth got kicked
out my mouth.
And I was 18 years old and Ihave went through so many things
uh, molestation, but family, uh, incest, molestation, rape,
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raping in the foster care system.
I went through all of that, youknow, and to be able to say you
know what God have brought methrough those things.
Now I have a wonderful husband,two biological kids, three
bonus kids.
I'm on a global mountains.
Took me global we.
(30:26):
Right now, this platform is 27countries, 159 cities worldwide.
I would never guess that wouldbe me because the odds were not
in my favor as a foster child.
You get what I'm saying.
I was like my mom on thestreets on drugs, or I'm a light
skin, cute girl, so immediatelyvideo, vixen, you know,
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whatever, whatever, and to say,no, that's not what I want for
my life.
I graduated Okay, I'm gettingmy honorary doctorate at the end
of this month and I did it notbecause of anybody else, not
because of me, but because ofGod.
He's the one who taught me andbrought me through.
So, yes, everything that you dofaith based.
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I love it because when you knowthat God is on your side, you
don't got nothing to worry aboutor nothing to have, because
he's going to have your back and, like I said, god will make
your enemy your footstool.
So you keep on going.
And the people that thought theycounted you out and did all of
those things to you, they wasyour footstool.
(31:30):
Do you understand me?
They was your footstool becausenow you can write it, you could
talk about it.
I turned my pain into paper.
I turned my pain into paper.
You think you're doing me wrong.
I'm gonna write a book aboutyou and get paid off of it and
you're gonna wish you never didme wrong.
That's how I, that's how I, getmy healing.
So I see that for you guys.
And that brings me as, as we'retalking about praise and we're
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talking about god and healing, II want to get to, ms Vicki,
your chapter From the Pits toPraise From the Pits to Praise.
How are you, ms Vicki?
Speaker 7 (32:09):
I am doing well, thank you.
I never dreamed I would be anauthor or speaking in public.
When I was in high school theywanted me to play piano in
church and I just wanted to gocrawl under that baby grand
thing and hold the cover down.
But I have such a clear callingfrom God to let my voice be
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heard.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Look, let me tell you , when I first started out, I
did a poetry book and I wasinvited on Clubhouse because
that was popping back.
When I first started out, I dida poetry book and I was invited
on clubhouse because that waspopular.
That was popping back whenCOVID first started clubhouse,
that was the place to be and Iwas on this platform.
I got invited to this platformby Laquita Parks.
Um, you guys know who she is.
That's, that's my mentor,that's my girl, that's my ride
or die, okay.
So she um invited me to this umplatform on clubhouse called
the Booksland.
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And I was so nervous Ms Vicki,do you understand me?
I was shaking as I was readingmy poetry.
I started crying.
My husband had to come in, drVelma had to pray for me.
It was a mess, okay.
But once you start releasing andjust look at the screen as if
you're talking to yourself,don't worry about the millions
of people.
They're going to hear you,they're going to see this.
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It's going to be on iHeartRadio, it's going to be on Pandora,
it's going to be everywhere.
So they're going to hear yourmessage.
But as long as you look at thescreen and you look directly at
yourself, that's what I do.
I look directly at myself, asif I'm talking to myself, and it
helps you and it calms you,okay, so, so those jitterballs
could just be gone, okay.
And if you don't want to look atyourself, you can look at me.
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And you can look at Reginaright here.
She right here too.
You can look at how you see her.
She said right on the side ofthem.
You can look at me, you canlook at her, you can look at her
.
But just know that your story,especially your title, from the
Pits to Praise, from the Pits toPraise.
So, ms Vicki, can you give us alittle bit of a background
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about yourself, what it is thatyou do and why did you decide to
join as a co-author for RisingAbove Narcissistic Abuse?
Speaker 7 (34:18):
Well, my title From the Pit.
I did not realize how bad thesituation was that I was in
because, like you shared and acouple of the others, I thought
it was normal.
I grew up in a very alcoholic,abusive home and then I got into
an arranged marriage.
I was pregnant and got marriedat 18 and that lasted 29 years
and things got really, reallybad abusive physical, sexual,
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spiritual, financial, all thethings that we've been talking
about and I did get squeezed,literally starved, into
submission financially.
But I had to get out and byGod's grace I did.
And I had some great people thatcame alongside of me and a
pastor that said what I was inwas in the pit of hell and I
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needed to get out and startgetting praise on.
And I really learned thatgratitude is huge, that you
can't have anxiety and stress.
It's like impossible for bothof those to exist in your mind
at the same time.
So that helped me a ton.
And he also said you got to bescrubbing your mind daily with
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the word to just keep those liesfrom the enemy out and keep on,
keeping on.
And that's been how I've beenable to just keep going, because
I I'm I'm a major empath too.
And I had more than onenarcissist that has robbed me of
everything but my Jesus and myjoy.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
So I'm going to keep on, keeping on and I'm going to
tell you something he thought herobbed you or something he
thought he thought.
But the devil is a lie, becauseGod gave each one of us gifts,
and our gifts back to him iswhat we do with it.
A lot of times, just like thewoman with the oil, right?
Yep, she was dirt poor.
She didn't know what she wasgoing to do.
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Her husband had died, he hadgone.
All he left her was oil.
That's all she had.
But she didn't know what shehad was a goldmine inside her
house.
But when that property came, hesaid I want you to take that
oil that you got in your houseand I want you to put it in
vessels, get vessels and sell it.
She became a millionaire inbiblical sense.
(36:27):
Right, she became a millionaire.
So a lot of times, god gives usgifts.
Right, everybody has gifts.
We were not meant to work hard.
You know, the gifts is supposedto bring forth our inheritance,
right?
I didn't know that, starting off, I was always doing networking
(36:47):
and brand marketing and doingthings and helping people and
creating graphics and videos andthis and that.
But I didn't know.
I just thought it was just ahobby.
I didn't know I could reallyget paid off of doing what I do
and God said you know what Igave you gifts.
Take that oil, put it invessels and don't confuse your
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ministry with your business,because when you do that, people
will try to gaslight you orpull at your heartstrings and
say, oh well, you're a Christian, you shouldn't be charging.
So Christians supposed to bepoor?
No, that's not how that works.
You can't expect, like you say,he drains you because you're an
(37:28):
empath and you're a giver right, and you're sympathetic to
people and a lot of times whenpeople see that, when the enemy
sees that he plays on the factthat you're just loving and
you're giving and you'reemotionally there and you're
always trying to be the personto save people.
But I had to realize, as anempath, that God has a plan for
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everybody's life and a lot oftimes we go and we want to be
that safety net that catchespeople when they fall, but we
don't know that theirbreakthrough is going to come
when they fall.
We have to let the prodigal sonfall and let them find their
way back to Christ the same waythat we did.
So I appreciate your story fromthe pits to praise um.
(38:18):
Now, when you say, um, thatyou're a narcissist.
It seemed like everybody'snarcissist here today was a, a
spouse or a partner.
Was it other people in yourlife other than your spouse that
was a narcissist?
Um, and how did you deal withthat?
Because I know my ass was myparents.
They were the worst.
I love them.
Rest their soul, but theypulled on hard strings by me
being a child.
(38:38):
So, um, that's where minestarted out.
Yeah, so yours started out asyour parents, and how were you
able to maneuvering and getthrough that, or is it something
that you still working on?
Speaker 7 (38:50):
um, I have just had to basically shut them out of my
life, and a lot of times it'shard because they're your
parents.
Yep, it is, it's very hard.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I shut my mom out of my life Not necessarily, but I
talk about it in one of my books.
She was on drugs for a longtime, right, and she couldn't
give what she didn't have, right?
Yes, so I couldn't expect, youknow, claire Huxtable out of her
(39:24):
, because that was not herupbringing, that's not what she
could, was able to give, and Ihad to know that.
She was a narcissist.
Look at it, receive it and loveher from a distance, and God
rest her soul.
God rest my dad's soul.
But I think that they knew thetype of people that they were,
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so they did not interfere intomy life because they didn't want
to take me.
You know a lot of the otherkids they ran behind them and a
lot of my brothers and sisters.
They are just on way differentpaths than I am because they
chose to kind of follow thatrepetitive cycle.
Me, I wanted nothing to do withit.
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I would be there for them.
You know, god, tell me to seeme fit to do it.
But a lot of times I just letpeople have what they want to
have and be happy in whatthey're, in what they're doing,
and I applaud you for kind ofnot.
I don't applaud you, but I'mnot saying like, oh, just get
rid of your parents.
No, no, no, choose you first,and if the people in your circle
(40:27):
, in your life, are not givingyou positive energy, then, yeah,
you have to, you have to stepaway.
So that was brave on your partas well.
Um, you ladies, you are, youare stronger than what you
realize A lot of people.
You see them, they laugh andthey joking all the time and
they're going through a lot ofthings, um, privately.
(40:50):
And for you guys to be able tostand up and be brave enough and
not care what other peoplethink about your story and just
get it out here and be able tohelp people, I applaud you, miss
.
Miss Irina, is there anythingelse you want to say in regards
to Vicki?
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Just, I'm, I'm.
Vicki knows I had to pull thestory out of Vicky powerful
story but because, like I said,all of us we have so much of the
fear of people knowing ourstory.
But once she put that story onpaper, vicky when we started,
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this is not the same Vicky.
Oh praise God.
Vicky when we started was avery timid and didn't.
This is not the same Vicky.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
She left holes in the story.
She left holes in the story.
That's how it was.
I left holes in the story.
I had to back away and comeback.
I couldn't do it.
It was a lot.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
And I am so happy that she did this.
It's like God is going to usethis.
Vicky has people that is behindher, that is looking at this,
because this story is just notabout Vicky.
This story is about otherpeople that she will see and
that she's being that catalystthat's going to help so many
(42:23):
other people in her sphere dowhat they need to do.
Vicky's going to have a wholeline of people behind her.
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I can see for all of them Getting led out of
creativity.
Yeah, because from each one oftheir stories I see a little bit
of me and what I went through,you know, and I'm glad God
delivered me from it, I'm gladhe delivered you guys from it
too.
But from each one of you guys'story I can relate in some way,
shape and, you know, in fashion,and I just I applaud you guys
(42:57):
because even in mountains it wasstuff I didn't talk about.
Ok, even in a lot of my it'sstill things that I'm afraid to
talk about.
And just hearing you guys andhow you're able to say, you know
what I'm going to talk about,let the world know what you did
to me, let the world know whatyou did to me it makes me, you
(43:23):
know, it really inspires me toreally speak out a little bit
more about some things that Iwent through that I still have
yet to talk about.
So I want to thank you guys forinspiring me, you know, to to
rise above narcissistic abuse.
Even though it was in the past,it's still.
You know you hold on to thatuntil you can't.
No more is still.
You know.
You hold on to that until youcan't, no more.
You know what I'm saying so.
(43:45):
I appreciate that.
Miss Ina, can you tell peoplewhen the book will be out?
What's?
Speaker 4 (43:49):
the release date.
When can we expect to get this?
Speaker 2 (43:52):
book.
The release date is May 15th,everybody, everybody, may 15th
so May 15th is going to be thee-book, correct, correct?
Okay?
So May 15th, if you guys do,you know how much you're pricing
it, for the e-book will be$1.99.
So look, that ain't even that.
(44:14):
Ain't what you spend on a Pepsiat the store.
Child, just spend a dollar and99 cent.
Go on Amazon and pick up RisingAbove Narcissistic Abuse, volume
3, the ebook.
We're going to get this to abest sell.
We got to.
We got to in Jesus name.
I believe that this is going totouch a multitude of people.
Okay, I appreciate everybodyfor coming on and telling your
(44:38):
stories.
I'm going to go back, I'm goingto do a roundabout again so you
guys can do a call to actionand tell people how they can
reach you and where they canfind you and how they can
pre-order from you.
Let's start with Vicky and thenwe'll go all around.
We'll go to Regina next andthen Ms Eula, and then we'll go
all around.
We'll go to Regina next andthen Ms Eula and then Ina.
Speaker 7 (45:01):
For me.
You can reach out to me just bymy email, which is
vickivickhilperkstra at gmailcom.
I don't have a website up yet,so it's coming, it's coming.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
It is Okay, and if they can't find you there, can
they find you on Facebook?
Yeah, I'm on Facebook too, okay.
So Vicki Lynn V-I-C-K-I-L-Y-N-N, you can find her on Facebook
as well.
Yes, it's Regina Rivers girl.
Speaker 6 (45:32):
Yes, so yeah, Actually I have a company called
Rivers of Words Productions, mywriting company.
So I am at Rivers of WordsProductions at GMAcom.
I can also be reached onInstagram, Rivers of Words
Productions, so that's how youcan reach me, ok.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
And Miss Eula, how can people find you?
Speaker 3 (45:58):
It's dependent on TikTok.
I'm on Facebook so you canreach out to me.
Em Guest is on Facebook, GuestManagement on Instagram, which
is my company, and on TikTok isMs May.
Ms Eula E-U-L-A and Miss.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
For me, find me on all social media when she rise
number one, but also all ofthese ladies which is rising
above narcissisticabusecom theircontact information will be on
the website.
So, which isrisingabobnarcissisticabusecom?
Their contact information willbe on the website, so you'll be
able to buy the book and contactthem on the website as well.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Absolutely Well it's been.
I'm not going to steal Laquita.
Yes, I am.
I'm going to steal her stuff.
I just love when Laquita saythis y'all, it just really gets
my, it really gets me going.
She gonna get me when she hearit.
It's been a plop, please andpleasure Better than a triple
decker peanut butter jellysandwich.
That's my story and I'msticking to it.
(47:06):
Ms Eula, can you pray us outplease?
Yes.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Thank you, father, for all these blessings that you
brought these powerful,beautiful women together.
Thank you for giving us thestrength to tell our stories,
thank you for directing oursteps, thank you for this
platform that Miss Jackie hasgiven us, and just thank you for
(47:32):
Miss Ina for bringing ustogether, for pulling this book
out of us, because some of ushad a little issue with getting
our stories out, and I'm just sograteful to you for bringing us
together, for giving us ourvoice, for helping us to help
other people in their journey.
Thank you so much, dear Lord,for all that you're doing for us
(47:54):
in Christ Jesus name.
Amen.
Amen, again, you can findjourney.
Thank you so much, dear lord,for all that you're doing for us
in christ jesus name, amen amenagain you can find rising above
narcissistic abuse.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Volume 3, may 15th go get it on amazon, it's 199.
Let's push this thing to numberone and once you buy it, buy a
couple of more and email them toyour friends.
Okay, let's, let's get thisbook in everybody's hands.
I appreciate you guys forcoming on and I cannot wait to
interview you again after it hitnumber one.
Speaker 5 (48:25):
I want y'all to come back, okay.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I appreciate you guys .
Thank you all for for watching.
Listen, linda, live with therising above narcissistic
abuseistic Abuse, volume 3co-authors and the visionary Ms
Ina Johnson, myers, peace, peaceout.
Speaker 5 (48:50):
In the depths of silence.
Our stories find their voice.
Silence, our stories find theirvoice.
I thought I was alone, broken,unworthy, but you're not.
We're not Rising Above.
Narcissistic Abuse is more thana book.
It's a lifeline.
It helped me understand what Iwas going through.
(49:11):
Volumes one through three offera beacon of hope.
Real stories, real women, real,real triumph.
I found the strength to breakmy silence.
These anthologies providestrategies, encouragement and a
path to healing for every womantrapped in the cycle of abuse.
I learned to recognize thesigns of narcissistic abuse
gaslighting, manipulation,emotional blackmail.
(49:33):
We expose these tactics andempower you to fight back.
I am not a victim.
I am a survivor.
Through these pages, you'llfind a community of women, women
who've walked through fire andemerged stronger.
I found my voice, my strength,my purpose.
Your story matters.
Your healing begins.
Break the silence, reclaim yourpower.
Contact the visionary ainajohnson myers to get your copy
(49:57):
of rising above narcissisticabuse volumes one through.
Thank you.
Hey there, I'm Jacqueline Cox, but you might
know me as ListenLinda.
Um, where do I even begin?
I guess you could say I wearmany hats Podcast host,
entrepreneur, Mrs Illinois, usa,and so much more but it all
started with a simple passion totell stories and empower others
(00:26):
.
Building a platform wasn't easy.
There were days when I wonderedif anyone was even listening.
But then something amazinghappened.
I realized the power of myvoice.
Suddenly, my words werereaching people, touching lives,
making a difference.
Now I see my mission clearly tocreate spaces where every voice
(00:47):
can be heard, because when welisten to each other's stories,
we grow, we connect, we becomestronger.
Every voice matters, everystory has power.
So what's your story?
I'm here to listen and togetherwe can make our voices echo far
and wide.
To be a guest on Listen Linda.
Contact Jacqueline Cox onFacebook Messenger.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yes, and I am back, season eight.
I'm super excited and we arekicking down the door with the
women from Rising AboveNarcissistic Abuse, volume 3.
Let's give each other a roundof applause.
We got the ladies in thebuilding tonight.
(01:33):
Yes, I am here.
I'm with my girl, ina.
We got Eula, we got Vicky, wegot Regina and we are in the
building to talk to you guystonight about rising above
narcissistic abuse.
This is the third volume of thetrilogy, ok, and we could not
(01:54):
be more excited to give you guysmore information about this.
Let's start with Miss Ina.
Ina, tell me what made youstart this anthology and how
important is it to you thatpeople who are rising above
narcissistic abuse voices beheard?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Actually, this was an assignment from God.
This anthology was anassignment from God because I
had no desire to do this when Iwent over to I think it was Rome
, when I was talking aboutnarcissistic abuse and the
difference between healthy andnarcissistic loving
relationships.
God gave me that vision at thattime that, although I'm sharing
(02:54):
my voice right now, that heeven gave me the name, that this
platform is going to host manywomen sharing their voice, not
just in Rome but across theworld sharing their voice, not
just in Rome but across theworld, and for those people who
don't know who you are and yourbackground and your brand, can
(03:15):
you give us a little moreinsight about who you are and
what it is that?
you do and a little bit aboutyour background.
Thank you, I am Ina JohnsonMyers.
I'm a seven-time best-sellingauthor, an international speaker
and a resiliency coach.
After 24 years of the military,this is just something that,
even though while I was in themilitary I was dealing with this
, I didn't know what it was.
Many of us that have been innarcissistic relationships we
(03:41):
don't know what it is.
We think that we're being, youknow, drama and dramatical, you
know being too sensitive, but itwas something that I was
dealing with, like I said, backin, you know, while I was in the
military and then, after I gotout retired, it was still
something that I dealt with.
(04:01):
I actually had a relationshipbefore the military that but I
thought that was a was a one anddone situation.
I did not understand themindset of that.
So this is something I said,using those experiences, and God
(04:22):
just gave.
Like I said when I had my finalone, my ex it was just
something that God's like yes,this is what you're going to do.
I lost my voice and through, youknow, him building me up,
through him empowering me, hegave me my voice back.
When I started this, thisjourney, I was in my prayer
(04:42):
closet, having a panic attack onthe ground, and he's the one
that told me to get up.
I audibly heard this voice toget up and get in front of my
computer, and he started thiswhole process for me using my
voice and helping other peopleuse their voice to help people,
like I said, around the world toshare our journeys.
(05:05):
Narcissistic abuse was actuallya thing before COVID.
Covid was the catalyst thatstarted tearing the walls off of
this thing, and so, because ofCOVID, so many people have been
able to speak out, but they'reusing their voice to speak out
(05:27):
on a global platform, becausethis is something that we
probably won't get it resolved,but we want to give women and
men have that situation too, butwe deal with women to give
women the option and theunderstanding of what it is and
(05:47):
give them the tools to help themget the healing they need.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
A lot of times, you know people, when they hear the
word abuse, they always thinkthat it's just physical.
And when dealing withnarcissists is way deeper than
that.
It could be physical, mentally,emotionally abuse, and I'm so,
so, very grateful that you havethis platform and you're giving
people the opportunity to have,like you say, like to have their
(06:14):
voice and speak out forthemselves, because a lot of
times, well, people who don'tunderstand the importance of
speaking out againstnarcissistic abuse.
Can you give some examples ofwhat that looks like?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
For many people it depends on that person, but what
it looks like is inconsistentbehaviors.
What you say and what they doare two totally different things
, and you know what they do aretwo totally different things.
It's about manipulation.
A lot of times in narcissisticrelationships, we often or
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people often, you know do thingsbecause narcissists first of
all love empaths out of your wayto please.
You know to please, or?
to go out of your way to be thatyou know, that ride or die
person, that empathetic personthat's always there, you know so
(07:13):
, and because of that it gets,it gets used against us, gets
manipulated and it ends upbecoming a very what you thought
was a relationship or amarriage ends up becoming a cage
, because it's like you don't.
You see the behaviors but youcan't believe that someone that
loved you or you thought lovedyou so much at the beginning can
(07:37):
actually be this abusive orthis manipulative in the
relationship, in therelationship, and oftentimes,
like I said, when we're talkingabout narcissistic abuse, it's
also financial, because theystrip you financially so that
you can't leave the relationship.
If you have nowhere to go, ifyou have no money, then you have
(07:57):
to accept this abuse.
And that's one of the mainthings that you know.
We see with women that theystay in those relationships
because they don't have thefinancial means, even though
they were six figure earnersbefore the relationship.
They kind of manipulate you to,to move you out of that six
(08:18):
figure income or you knowwhatever, so that you're
constantly depending on them andonce, once you've, you know,
done, done that and you'redepending on them, then, like I
said, the manipulation and abuseand the gaslighting overdrive
absolutely absolutely so in yourjourney I know you've done
(08:40):
three, three.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
This is your third um anthology for rising above
narcissistic abuse.
But tell me, how did you get incontact with these ladies?
How?
How did you guys connect?
How did you reach out and getthese wonderful women?
Because just from the look ofthe names of the chapters I know
this book gonna be bomb.
So I cannot wait and I'mtelling all my followers y'all
need to go get this book,because when y'all just hear the
(09:03):
names of the chapters you knowit's going to be good Okay.
So how did you get in touchwith Miss Eula, with Vicky, with
JJ, with Regina?
How did you get in contact withthese ladies?
How did that come about?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I put out a call for it and I'm so grateful.
Not everybody wants to usetheir voice to share because
there's so much shame that'sinvolved in narcissistic abuse,
especially when you're a highincome earner.
You you feel so much shamebecause you can't figure out how
did you get do it?
And because of that, a lot ofwomen that are in the C-suite
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that are going through thiswon't talk about it, but they'll
read the.
You know, read the stories andthey'll get strategies and, you
know, help from the stories.
So this is just about womenthat are bold enough, are
fearless enough to tell theirstory to help those that can't
right now.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Absolutely.
And before we get to talking tothe co-authors, I do have a
cute little video that I madefor Ms Ina and for the women of
Rising Above Narcissistic AbuseValues 1 through 3.
So I'm going to go ahead.
Is it okay if I play it?
And then we get to talking tothe lady, to Ms Ina.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Okay.
In the depths of silence, ourstories find their voice.
I thought I was alone, broken,unworthy, but you're not, we're
not.
Rising Above Narcissistic Abuseis more than a book book, it's
a lifeline.
It helped me understand what Iwas going through.
Volumes 1 through 3 offer abeacon of hope.
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Real stories, real women, realtriumph.
I found the strength to breakmy silence.
These anthologies providestrategies, encouragement and a
path to healing for every womantrapped in the cycle of abuse.
I learned to recognize thesigns of narcissistic abuse
gaslighting, manipulation,emotional blackmail.
(11:12):
We expose these tactics andempower you to fight back.
I am not a victim.
I am a survivor.
Through these pages, you'llfind a community of women, women
who've walked through fire andemerged stronger.
I found my voice, my strength,my purpose.
Your story matters.
Your healing begins.
Break the silence, reclaim yourpower.
Contact the visionary InaJohnson Myers to get your copy
(11:36):
of Rising Above NarcissisticAbuse, volumes 1 through 3,
today.
Empower your journey towardshealing.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yes, so I love the video.
Okay, I think that I think thatis amazing what you're doing,
and I'm just glad to have eachone of you.
You ladies, you guys, are sosuper brave and stronger than
what you even know.
A lot of times, like Miss Inasaid, you're so afraid to tell
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your story because you're afraidof what other people may think.
So, just to be brave enough toput pen to paper and to use your
voice to help someone else toget through their trauma or what
they're going through, and tohelp them to break free and know
that if you can do it, they cando it, I just I commend all of
you ladies.
Okay, and I'm going to startwith Ms Eula.
Ms Eula, and your chapter iscalled Out of Messy Comes
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Healing.
From mess to blessed, that'swhat I want to say.
From mess to bless.
How are you doing, miss Eula?
Can you give the audience alittle bit about background,
about yourself, and just whatmade you come up with that title
?
How did that come to you?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yes, I'm a second time entrepreneur and also a
Girl Scout, former Girl Scoutleader, former Scout dead mother
Parents Association president.
I've done it all and I'vealways been a champion for women
to find their voice.
And before this project cameabout, I would speak on panels
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and in a newspaper in regards topostpartum depression, because
that's another issue that womenare going through that's not
talked about enough.
And through my going throughwhat I'm going through and I saw
the call to tell stories, Idecided to tell my story and in
the beginning I went back andforth.
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I didn't reach out right away.
I was like do I want my familyto know how embarrassing, how
hard this is?
Because they didn't know whatwas going on.
They didn't know the story,they just knew what they saw.
What they saw was two peoplewho loved each other and that's
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the image that we portrayed tothe outside world.
You know, but they didn't knowwhat was going on in our inner
world.
Even my inner circle friendsdidn't know my best girlfriend.
She didn't know.
This is something that youdon't share and I wanted to
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speak out and I wanted to.
I found my voice and telling astory, I really found my voice.
I found who eula is again,because eula was always a
champion for women, but then,when it came for me, I wasn't
champion for myself.
I said how could I be aninspiration to my own three
daughters now all, all adultwomen the youngest is 24, the
oldest is 40, should be 43.
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And how could I be an exampleof strong women if I don't show
them what a strong woman lookslike and be an example for them?
So I'm not only doing it for me, but I'm doing it for my
daughters and for mygranddaughters, because they
have to know the signs to lookout for.
They have to know howmanipulative these people are,
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how they gaslight you, how theymake you feel like they really
love you and then they turnaround and they do stuff and
you're sitting there wonderingand blame you.
Never take responsibility forit.
They blame you everything thathappened is your fault and never
, ever take responsibility.
Never, um say I'm sorry.
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And if they say I'm sorry, theyturn around and do something
else.
Yeah, so you know it was veryslow for me to finally realize
that something wasn't right, butthen that nagging voice was
telling me you need to get out.
I kept hearing this naggingvoice, god talking to me as
clear as I'm talking to you now.
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You need to get out.
And when we bought a housetogether and I wasn't even in
the house a year, that voice wastelling me you need to get out.
So when that God is telling youto get out, get out.
Don't question it.
Don't do what I did.
Argue with it, question it.
Get up and do it.
If you don't have money, havean exit plan.
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Figure out how you're going toexit or get out.
Don't do what I did.
Waste so many years trying tofigure it out and trying to
change something that wasn't forme to change from the beginning
.
So I tell women all the timenow if it don't feel right, if
it's too good to be true, it'stoo good to be true, get out.
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Don't question it, don't try tofigure it out.
Don't do what I did.
Make excuses for it.
Get out.
Don't question it, don't try tofigure it out.
Don't do what I did.
Make excuses for it.
Get out, because it could belife or death, literally.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
So in your chapter do you discuss like the things
that happened in your marriage,or was it just him, or were
there other people as well, thatyou had to deal with?
Narcissistic abuse?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Well, I was physically abused before in
another relationship and, um,when I think of abuse, most
times I thought physical.
I never thought aboutpsychological abuse, which is to
me way worse because bruisesheal.
But psychological messes withyour psyche, it messes with your
mind, it messes with yourpsyche, it messes with your mind
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, it messes with your spirit.
You don't know if you're comingor going.
It's very demonic what goes on.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Also have a domino effect on your health, because
you start getting depressed andyou start getting drained
Mentally and physically and then, before you know it, you got
all types of health problems andyou're not understanding what
it's coming from.
But it's coming from, like yousay, that demonic spirit.
It takes a hold of you and itreally takes a lot of prayer and
a lot of manifestation, butalso a lot of courage to get up
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and just say you know what?
Get me behind me, satan.
I'm getting up out of here.
Okay, so I I applaud you, msGuest, for for coming on and
just sharing your story and andand really I just know your
chapter out of messy comes here.
That's a word.
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That is a word because God willtake a mess and turn it into
blessed, and what the enemy havefor your, for your, for you,
for bad, he will always turn itinto good and for the blessings
that he have upon your life.
Sister, you have no idea, justfor getting out and sharing your
testimony, the blessings andsee, god will take you through
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things and people.
I get this all the time and Iactually used it for a title for
one of my books calledMountains Can't Rise Without
Earthquakes, your earth has toshatter under you in order for
that mountain to rise, so thatsame mountaintop that God is
taking you to what the devilthink he's going to take you to
and say, hey, you can have allof this if you could just follow
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me.
What Jesus told him, get theebehind me, say you can give me
what's already mine.
See, when, when, when God tookthat earth and he shattered that
, he did that to build you upfor a time such as now, to help
other people who are goingthrough what they're going
through.
So God bless you, sister, andall of your endeavors, and I am
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so, so proud of you for tellingyour story.
Now let's get to Miss Regina.
Miss Regina, hey Regina, howare you love?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
I am taking it one day at a time and I'm good.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You know what, Regina ?
When I saw your name, I waslike she got a story to tell.
Your last name is Rivers.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Rivers, honey.
Yes, ma'am, like a treestanding by the water, that's
all I kept hearing.
Like a tree standing by thewater.
You shut up.
Why be moved?
You like the rivers.
I said, yes, girl, yes.
So your story chronic emotionalrecovery.
So your story chronic emotionalrecovery.
Before we get into that chapter, and what made you decide to
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write and title your chapterChronic Emotional Recovery, can
you give the audience a littlebit of background about yourself
, what you do and why youdecided to participate in Rising
Above Narcissistic Abuse?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Sure, my name is Virginia Rivers.
I'm a lifelong New York stateresident.
I grew up originally inSkaticoke, which is just outside
of Albany.
I moved down to thePoughkeepsie area of the Hudson
Valley after graduating, newPaltz College.
I'm a writer, I'm a poet.
I performed in Albany, new yorkcity, uh newberg during the
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pandemic.
I took part in some virtualopen mics in philly and texas
and everything.
So that was pretty cool to do.
Um, and my chapter, myexperience with narcissistic
abuse, and I'm glad that youmentioned that.
You know when people thinkabuse it's more than physical,
because I've been researchingdomestic violence since I was 10
years old.
I'm serious about, you know,helping survivors and children
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of domestic abuse survivors.
So in my, in my career as ayouth development practitioner,
the emotional, the verbal, thepsychological, the spiritual,
the legal, the medical all ofthat encompasses abuse which
leads to the physical.
So I share in my story thatwhile my narcissist was not
physically abusive, his verbalabuse, his emotional abuse
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manifested with me physically.
I'm trying to think of anexample.
I suffered a lot of lightsensitivity, like right now I
have lights on and it's fine,the sunlight, I'm okay Now.
Before I had to getprescription sunglasses.
Um, I suffered from thiscondition called arthralgia,
where, um, it wasn't arthritisbut it wasn't fibromyalgia, but
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it hurt to just do basicmovements.
Since he's been gone, myfibromyalgia is gone, rest
activity is gone.
So it's about like dealing withthat type of um constant
challenge and having it manifestin you.
That's something that peopledon't talk about, along with the
financial and the other tacticsthat they use, and, um, I
reached out to miss ida again onsocial media.
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I just kept doing some researchfor my job.
I thought about who I had in mylife as of late and I said I
don't even need to cut thesepeople out, or, thank god,
they're already out of my life.
So I reached out to miss ainaand I explained my story and she
offered me the opportunity toshare my story and I said, yeah,
and I went off of.
You know what I went through,how I conquered and how I'm
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pressing on and see you knowwhat, um, I?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I appreciate that because a lot of people don't
understand that sometimes, whenwe grow up in those environments
, right, we get accustomed tothat and we think that that's
normal because we see it so muchgrowing up, happening around us
in our families, with our moms,with our dads, with our aunts,
with our uncles, and we see allthis different emotional and
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mental abuse, right, and wethink that that's just the norm
and that's just people arguingor how they show they love each
other, ie their love language,but it's not healthy.
And then, like a lot of times Iknow, with my grandmother, she
was a victim and she was also avillain, you know, because they
project the same thing that'shappening to them.
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They project on their kids,their grandkids, and so he dealt
with it with my granddaddy andthen she projected it on my dad
and she projected it on us andhe projected it on us, and it's
just an ongoing cycle untilpeople like you guys say you
know what I'm done with this,I'm not going to take it anymore
and I'm not going to be avictim, I'm going to be
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victorious in what I'mconquering.
And for you to, you know, likeyou say, as of late, get rid of
those people.
I commend you for that, becausea lot of times we get so
accustomed to that, we and we,we feel like, if we let go of
these people who've been in ourlife for so long, because we
have that history with them,that we feel like we want to
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stay attached to them for somereason, we, we just need to be
attached so for you to be likeyou know what.
Forget this.
I'm breaking away from thiscrap.
This is not me, this is notwhat I want for my life, and I'm
going to change it today.
Because when we're in thatwaiting season, we're not
understanding.
All we have to do is leave itat the altar and God will handle
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it.
And God don't bring people say,oh, god, don't, he don't put
you through nothing that youcan't handle, exactly Because
the things that you can't handleyou're supposed to leave at the
altar for him.
You're supposed to let himhandle those things.
God don't want us to be sad, hedon't want us to be emotionally
abused.
That's not what he wants forour life.
But see, sometimes the trickeryof the devil will come in and
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he will see his little nastytail in and he'll make it.
Oh, this person, they just loveyou.
You know, just like if a littlegirl hit a boy and we tell our
boys, oh, she only doing thatbecause she like you.
Or we tell a little girl, oh,he only hit you because he like
you.
I don't tell my kids that, Idon't teach them that, no, if
they hit you they don't like you.
If they hit you, that'ssomething internal that they got
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inside of them, that they'vebeen taught at home.
That's learned behavior.
And once we realize that we cando what Rise above narcissistic
abuse, I think your story yougot another good title.
That's why I tell y'all, thesetitles will really just make you
want to just dab in just offthe titles.
These ladies are talented.
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Okay, because I be having tocome up with a lot of titles for
some of my people.
Okay, these women came up withtheir own titles.
The title her title was Chr.
Title is chronic emotionalrecovery.
So a lot of times you know, Ithink from her title I get I've
been going through thisemotional, emotional turmoil and
it's been a chronic umappearance in my life for so
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long.
Chronic means to keep happeningand keep happening and keep
happening and keep happening andshe's able to break away from
that and to recover throughtelling her story.
Did I get it right?
basically yeah, basically, yes,basically in a nutshell.
But I know that your story ismore in depth than that and I
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know it's a lot of pieces to itand I appreciate you because
when I was telling my story, Iknow I had you know about
mountains.
I had to step away frommountains for months, go back to
therapy After I did 13 years oftherapy to get over the things
I went through.
When I started to actuallyunpack everything and tell my
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story, I had to step away, goback to therapy, go back to
church, talk to my pastor, thenget back in it.
But you know what became ofthat story?
Three years on bestsellers list, 91 days straight, number one
on Amazon.
I'm able to go out and speak topeople, speak to young girls who
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are going through, who havebeen through those things, and
really show them like you knowwhat, if you just be transparent
enough and be open enough, godwill turn your what, your mess
into a what you look healing,into a healing Amen.
So God going to turn your messinto a healing girl.
You have just started.
You have just started and I'mso, so proud of you as well.
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Ms Ina, do you have anythingyou want to add?
Speaker 4 (27:36):
I just want to say you hit it right on the head
about how God is going to taketheir yes and he's going to
multiply that a thousandfold.
I explain to them that whenthey share their story, there
are so many people in theircircle already that are dealing
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with this but have not saidanything to anybody.
This chapter, their chapters,are going to be able to put them
in rooms and places to talk topeople.
You know that I don't know ofany other.
You know type of conversationthat is so hot right now that
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people need the healing.
So these ladies, like I said, Ithank them so much, I am so
proud of them for sharing theirstory, putting their heart and
their soul on those papers sothat the readers can read their
story to get the healing intheir own lives.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Exactly, and when you do that and you transparent and
you open, like you say you dopoetry, I do poetry as well.
My first book was actually apoetry book, and every piece of
literature that I've everwritten since then I always
incorporate poetry before eachchapter.
I'm a 15-time bestseller in twoyears, and that's because
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everything that I do I put Godfirst.
He's my foundation.
He takes me through it.
The way I'm able to open up andbe so transparent in all of my
literature is because I usepoetry.
That was my way to get through.
That's how I'm able to open upand be transparent.
But also, when you tell yourtruth, you're opening up
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doorways for people to telltheirs.
I would never thought thatmountains would be a bestseller
even today, right now, in thetop 100 for three years in a row
.
I would never guess that.
I would never guess that thethings that I have went through
in my life guess that.
I would never guess that.
The things that I have wentthrough in my life narcissistic
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abuse, physical abuse, parentalneglect, child abuse,
miscarriages, all types of stuff.
I had somebody, my first personI was with.
I thought I loved him.
He stomped it.
I was four months pregnant andmy baby got stomped out of my
stomach and my tooth got kickedout my mouth, pregnant, and my
baby got stomped out of mystomach and my tooth got kicked
out my mouth.
And I was 18 years old and Ihave went through so many things
uh, molestation, but family, uh, incest, molestation, rape,
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raping in the foster care system.
I went through all of that, youknow, and to be able to say you
know what God have brought methrough those things.
Now I have a wonderful husband,two biological kids, three
bonus kids.
I'm on a global mountains.
Took me global we.
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Right now, this platform is 27countries, 159 cities worldwide.
I would never guess that wouldbe me because the odds were not
in my favor as a foster child.
You get what I'm saying.
I was like my mom on thestreets on drugs, or I'm a light
skin, cute girl, so immediatelyvideo, vixen, you know,
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whatever, whatever, and to say,no, that's not what I want for
my life.
I graduated Okay, I'm gettingmy honorary doctorate at the end
of this month and I did it notbecause of anybody else, not
because of me, but because ofGod.
He's the one who taught me andbrought me through.
So, yes, everything that you dofaith based.
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I love it because when you knowthat God is on your side, you
don't got nothing to worry aboutor nothing to have, because
he's going to have your back and, like I said, god will make
your enemy your footstool.
So you keep on going.
And the people that thought theycounted you out and did all of
those things to you, they wasyour footstool.
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Do you understand me?
They was your footstool becausenow you can write it, you could
talk about it.
I turned my pain into paper.
I turned my pain into paper.
You think you're doing me wrong.
I'm gonna write a book aboutyou and get paid off of it and
you're gonna wish you never didme wrong.
That's how I, that's how I, getmy healing.
So I see that for you guys.
And that brings me as, as we'retalking about praise and we're
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talking about god and healing, II want to get to, ms Vicki,
your chapter From the Pits toPraise From the Pits to Praise.
How are you, ms Vicki?
Speaker 7 (32:09):
I am doing well, thank you.
I never dreamed I would be anauthor or speaking in public.
When I was in high school theywanted me to play piano in
church and I just wanted to gocrawl under that baby grand
thing and hold the cover down.
But I have such a clear callingfrom God to let my voice be
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heard.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Look, let me tell you , when I first started out, I
did a poetry book and I wasinvited on Clubhouse because
that was popping back.
When I first started out, I dida poetry book and I was invited
on clubhouse because that waspopular.
That was popping back whenCOVID first started clubhouse,
that was the place to be and Iwas on this platform.
I got invited to this platformby Laquita Parks.
Um, you guys know who she is.
That's, that's my mentor,that's my girl, that's my ride
or die, okay.
So she um invited me to this umplatform on clubhouse called
the Booksland.
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And I was so nervous Ms Vicki,do you understand me?
I was shaking as I was readingmy poetry.
I started crying.
My husband had to come in, drVelma had to pray for me.
It was a mess, okay.
But once you start releasing andjust look at the screen as if
you're talking to yourself,don't worry about the millions
of people.
They're going to hear you,they're going to see this.
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It's going to be on iHeartRadio, it's going to be on Pandora,
it's going to be everywhere.
So they're going to hear yourmessage.
But as long as you look at thescreen and you look directly at
yourself, that's what I do.
I look directly at myself, asif I'm talking to myself, and it
helps you and it calms you,okay, so, so those jitterballs
could just be gone, okay.
And if you don't want to look atyourself, you can look at me.
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And you can look at Reginaright here.
She right here too.
You can look at how you see her.
She said right on the side ofthem.
You can look at me, you canlook at her, you can look at her
.
But just know that your story,especially your title, from the
Pits to Praise, from the Pits toPraise.
So, ms Vicki, can you give us alittle bit of a background
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about yourself, what it is thatyou do and why did you decide to
join as a co-author for RisingAbove Narcissistic Abuse?
Speaker 7 (34:18):
Well, my title From the Pit.
I did not realize how bad thesituation was that I was in
because, like you shared and acouple of the others, I thought
it was normal.
I grew up in a very alcoholic,abusive home and then I got into
an arranged marriage.
I was pregnant and got marriedat 18 and that lasted 29 years
and things got really, reallybad abusive physical, sexual,
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spiritual, financial, all thethings that we've been talking
about and I did get squeezed,literally starved, into
submission financially.
But I had to get out and byGod's grace I did.
And I had some great people thatcame alongside of me and a
pastor that said what I was inwas in the pit of hell and I
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needed to get out and startgetting praise on.
And I really learned thatgratitude is huge, that you
can't have anxiety and stress.
It's like impossible for bothof those to exist in your mind
at the same time.
So that helped me a ton.
And he also said you got to bescrubbing your mind daily with
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the word to just keep those liesfrom the enemy out and keep on,
keeping on.
And that's been how I've beenable to just keep going, because
I I'm I'm a major empath too.
And I had more than onenarcissist that has robbed me of
everything but my Jesus and myjoy.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
So I'm going to keep on, keeping on and I'm going to
tell you something he thought herobbed you or something he
thought he thought.
But the devil is a lie, becauseGod gave each one of us gifts,
and our gifts back to him iswhat we do with it.
A lot of times, just like thewoman with the oil, right?
Yep, she was dirt poor.
She didn't know what she wasgoing to do.
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Her husband had died, he hadgone.
All he left her was oil.
That's all she had.
But she didn't know what shehad was a goldmine inside her
house.
But when that property came, hesaid I want you to take that
oil that you got in your houseand I want you to put it in
vessels, get vessels and sell it.
She became a millionaire inbiblical sense.
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Right, she became a millionaire.
So a lot of times, god gives usgifts.
Right, everybody has gifts.
We were not meant to work hard.
You know, the gifts is supposedto bring forth our inheritance,
right?
I didn't know that, starting off, I was always doing networking
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and brand marketing and doingthings and helping people and
creating graphics and videos andthis and that.
But I didn't know.
I just thought it was just ahobby.
I didn't know I could reallyget paid off of doing what I do
and God said you know what Igave you gifts.
Take that oil, put it invessels and don't confuse your
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ministry with your business,because when you do that, people
will try to gaslight you orpull at your heartstrings and
say, oh well, you're a Christian, you shouldn't be charging.
So Christians supposed to bepoor?
No, that's not how that works.
You can't expect, like you say,he drains you because you're an
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empath and you're a giver right, and you're sympathetic to
people and a lot of times whenpeople see that, when the enemy
sees that he plays on the factthat you're just loving and
you're giving and you'reemotionally there and you're
always trying to be the personto save people.
But I had to realize, as anempath, that God has a plan for
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everybody's life and a lot oftimes we go and we want to be
that safety net that catchespeople when they fall, but we
don't know that theirbreakthrough is going to come
when they fall.
We have to let the prodigal sonfall and let them find their
way back to Christ the same waythat we did.
So I appreciate your story fromthe pits to praise um.
(38:18):
Now, when you say, um, thatyou're a narcissist.
It seemed like everybody'snarcissist here today was a, a
spouse or a partner.
Was it other people in yourlife other than your spouse that
was a narcissist?
Um, and how did you deal withthat?
Because I know my ass was myparents.
They were the worst.
I love them.
Rest their soul, but theypulled on hard strings by me
being a child.
(38:38):
So, um, that's where minestarted out.
Yeah, so yours started out asyour parents, and how were you
able to maneuvering and getthrough that, or is it something
that you still working on?
Speaker 7 (38:50):
um, I have just had to basically shut them out of my
life, and a lot of times it'shard because they're your
parents.
Yep, it is, it's very hard.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I shut my mom out of my life Not necessarily, but I
talk about it in one of my books.
She was on drugs for a longtime, right, and she couldn't
give what she didn't have, right?
Yes, so I couldn't expect, youknow, claire Huxtable out of her
(39:24):
, because that was not herupbringing, that's not what she
could, was able to give, and Ihad to know that.
She was a narcissist.
Look at it, receive it and loveher from a distance, and God
rest her soul.
God rest my dad's soul.
But I think that they knew thetype of people that they were,
(39:45):
so they did not interfere intomy life because they didn't want
to take me.
You know a lot of the otherkids they ran behind them and a
lot of my brothers and sisters.
They are just on way differentpaths than I am because they
chose to kind of follow thatrepetitive cycle.
Me, I wanted nothing to do withit.
(40:06):
I would be there for them.
You know, god, tell me to seeme fit to do it.
But a lot of times I just letpeople have what they want to
have and be happy in whatthey're, in what they're doing,
and I applaud you for kind ofnot.
I don't applaud you, but I'mnot saying like, oh, just get
rid of your parents.
No, no, no, choose you first,and if the people in your circle
(40:27):
, in your life, are not givingyou positive energy, then, yeah,
you have to, you have to stepaway.
So that was brave on your partas well.
Um, you ladies, you are, youare stronger than what you
realize A lot of people.
You see them, they laugh andthey joking all the time and
they're going through a lot ofthings, um, privately.
(40:50):
And for you guys to be able tostand up and be brave enough and
not care what other peoplethink about your story and just
get it out here and be able tohelp people, I applaud you, miss
.
Miss Irina, is there anythingelse you want to say in regards
to Vicki?
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Just, I'm, I'm.
Vicki knows I had to pull thestory out of Vicky powerful
story but because, like I said,all of us we have so much of the
fear of people knowing ourstory.
But once she put that story onpaper, vicky when we started,
(41:37):
this is not the same Vicky.
Oh praise God.
Vicky when we started was avery timid and didn't.
This is not the same Vicky.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
She left holes in the story.
She left holes in the story.
That's how it was.
I left holes in the story.
I had to back away and comeback.
I couldn't do it.
It was a lot.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
And I am so happy that she did this.
It's like God is going to usethis.
Vicky has people that is behindher, that is looking at this,
because this story is just notabout Vicky.
This story is about otherpeople that she will see and
that she's being that catalystthat's going to help so many
(42:23):
other people in her sphere dowhat they need to do.
Vicky's going to have a wholeline of people behind her.
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I can see for all of them Getting led out of
creativity.
Yeah, because from each one oftheir stories I see a little bit
of me and what I went through,you know, and I'm glad God
delivered me from it, I'm gladhe delivered you guys from it
too.
But from each one of you guys'story I can relate in some way,
shape and, you know, in fashion,and I just I applaud you guys
(42:57):
because even in mountains it wasstuff I didn't talk about.
Ok, even in a lot of my it'sstill things that I'm afraid to
talk about.
And just hearing you guys andhow you're able to say, you know
what I'm going to talk about,let the world know what you did
to me, let the world know whatyou did to me it makes me, you
(43:23):
know, it really inspires me toreally speak out a little bit
more about some things that Iwent through that I still have
yet to talk about.
So I want to thank you guys forinspiring me, you know, to to
rise above narcissistic abuse.
Even though it was in the past,it's still.
You know you hold on to thatuntil you can't.
No more is still.
You know.
You hold on to that until youcan't, no more.
You know what I'm saying so.
(43:45):
I appreciate that.
Miss Ina, can you tell peoplewhen the book will be out?
What's?
Speaker 4 (43:49):
the release date.
When can we expect to get this?
Speaker 2 (43:52):
book.
The release date is May 15th,everybody, everybody, may 15th
so May 15th is going to be thee-book, correct, correct?
Okay?
So May 15th, if you guys do,you know how much you're pricing
it, for the e-book will be$1.99.
So look, that ain't even that.
(44:14):
Ain't what you spend on a Pepsiat the store.
Child, just spend a dollar and99 cent.
Go on Amazon and pick up RisingAbove Narcissistic Abuse, volume
3, the ebook.
We're going to get this to abest sell.
We got to.
We got to in Jesus name.
I believe that this is going totouch a multitude of people.
Okay, I appreciate everybodyfor coming on and telling your
(44:38):
stories.
I'm going to go back, I'm goingto do a roundabout again so you
guys can do a call to actionand tell people how they can
reach you and where they canfind you and how they can
pre-order from you.
Let's start with Vicky and thenwe'll go all around.
We'll go to Regina next andthen Ms Eula, and then we'll go
all around.
We'll go to Regina next andthen Ms Eula and then Ina.
Speaker 7 (45:01):
For me.
You can reach out to me just bymy email, which is
vickivickhilperkstra at gmailcom.
I don't have a website up yet,so it's coming, it's coming.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
It is Okay, and if they can't find you there, can
they find you on Facebook?
Yeah, I'm on Facebook too, okay.
So Vicki Lynn V-I-C-K-I-L-Y-N-N, you can find her on Facebook
as well.
Yes, it's Regina Rivers girl.
Speaker 6 (45:32):
Yes, so yeah, Actually I have a company called
Rivers of Words Productions, mywriting company.
So I am at Rivers of WordsProductions at GMAcom.
I can also be reached onInstagram, Rivers of Words
Productions, so that's how youcan reach me, ok.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
And Miss Eula, how can people find you?
Speaker 3 (45:58):
It's dependent on TikTok.
I'm on Facebook so you canreach out to me.
Em Guest is on Facebook, GuestManagement on Instagram, which
is my company, and on TikTok isMs May.
Ms Eula E-U-L-A and Miss.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
For me, find me on all social media when she rise
number one, but also all ofthese ladies which is rising
above narcissisticabusecom theircontact information will be on
the website.
So, which isrisingabobnarcissisticabusecom?
Their contact information willbe on the website, so you'll be
able to buy the book and contactthem on the website as well.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Absolutely Well it's been.
I'm not going to steal Laquita.
Yes, I am.
I'm going to steal her stuff.
I just love when Laquita saythis y'all, it just really gets
my, it really gets me going.
She gonna get me when she hearit.
It's been a plop, please andpleasure Better than a triple
decker peanut butter jellysandwich.
That's my story and I'msticking to it.
(47:06):
Ms Eula, can you pray us outplease?
Yes.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Thank you, father, for all these blessings that you
brought these powerful,beautiful women together.
Thank you for giving us thestrength to tell our stories,
thank you for directing oursteps, thank you for this
platform that Miss Jackie hasgiven us, and just thank you for
(47:32):
Miss Ina for bringing ustogether, for pulling this book
out of us, because some of ushad a little issue with getting
our stories out, and I'm just sograteful to you for bringing us
together, for giving us ourvoice, for helping us to help
other people in their journey.
Thank you so much, dear Lord,for all that you're doing for us
(47:54):
in Christ Jesus name.
Amen.
Amen, again, you can findjourney.
Thank you so much, dear lord,for all that you're doing for us
in christ jesus name, amen amenagain you can find rising above
narcissistic abuse.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Volume 3, may 15th go get it on amazon, it's 199.
Let's push this thing to numberone and once you buy it, buy a
couple of more and email them toyour friends.
Okay, let's, let's get thisbook in everybody's hands.
I appreciate you guys forcoming on and I cannot wait to
interview you again after it hitnumber one.
Speaker 5 (48:25):
I want y'all to come back, okay.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I appreciate you guys .
Thank you all for for watching.
Listen, linda, live with therising above narcissistic
abuseistic Abuse, volume 3co-authors and the visionary Ms
Ina Johnson, myers, peace, peaceout.
Speaker 5 (48:50):
In the depths of silence.
Our stories find their voice.
Silence, our stories find theirvoice.
I thought I was alone, broken,unworthy, but you're not.
We're not Rising Above.
Narcissistic Abuse is more thana book.
It's a lifeline.
It helped me understand what Iwas going through.
(49:11):
Volumes one through three offera beacon of hope.
Real stories, real women, real,real triumph.
I found the strength to breakmy silence.
These anthologies providestrategies, encouragement and a
path to healing for every womantrapped in the cycle of abuse.
I learned to recognize thesigns of narcissistic abuse
gaslighting, manipulation,emotional blackmail.
(49:33):
We expose these tactics andempower you to fight back.
I am not a victim.
I am a survivor.
Through these pages, you'llfind a community of women, women
who've walked through fire andemerged stronger.
I found my voice, my strength,my purpose.
Your story matters.
Your healing begins.
Break the silence, reclaim yourpower.
Contact the visionary ainajohnson myers to get your copy
(49:57):
of rising above narcissisticabuse volumes one through.
Thank you.
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