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When faced with the daunting question, "What's your passion?" many of us find ourselves at a loss. Robin Ayers, a media sensation and motivational powerhouse, joins us to unravel this mystery, sharing her transformative journey from fashion to entertainment reporting and beyond. Her story is a beacon for anyone navigating the unpredictable seas of career change, offering insights into the valuable skills she acquired along the way, including the art of networking and maintaining a stellar reputation. Robin's candid conversation is not just about finding your calling; it's a roadmap to personal and professional fulfillment.

Each of us carries a unique tale brimming with trials, triumphs, and the potential to inspire. This episode dives into the art of storytelling with Robin, who illustrates the power of personal narratives in connecting with others. From overcoming health challenges to recognizing creative gifts, the discussion is a testament to the serendipitous nature of success. Learn how your life story can influence and motivate, reminding us that our impact on the world doesn't require fame—just the courage to share and connect.

Wrapping up, we reflect on the pillars of faith, purpose, and the drive to uplift those around us. Robin opens up about her written works, her daily entertainment radio show, and her entrepreneurial spirit that fuels her desire to help others. As we bid farewell, we leave you with an empowering reminder: the resilience within you is capable of navigating life's unpredictable waves, guiding you to extraordinary places. So join us, and let Robin Ayers' wisdom fill your day with hope, determination, and the courage to say "yes" to your dreams.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
I have.

(00:34):
Just for me that you were madefor me.

(01:03):
I'm only for me.
That you were made for me.
Oh yeah, you were made for me.
It ain't everyday that I get inmy feelings this way, that I
knew it was rare Cause beforeyou I never did care.

(01:29):
Don't know what I would do If Ihad to go on without you.
Twin, where have you been?
Nobody knows me like you do.
Nobody gonna love me.

(01:50):
I, like you, can't even deny it.
Every time I try, when I get myeyes, you know I'm lying, lying
body to body.
I'm never gonna get up, nevergonna learn life.
I'm just a girl.
You were made for me, just forme.

(02:12):
That you were made for me, thatyou were made for me.
Oh yeah, you were made for me,made for me, made for me, made

(02:34):
for me, just for me.

(03:18):
You call me out upon the waters,the great unknown, where feet
may fail.
And there I find you, in themisty, in oceans deep.

(03:38):
My faith will stand and I willcall upon your name and keep my
eyes above the waves when oceansrise, with some impressed In

(04:01):
your embrace.
I am blessed and you are mine.
Oh, your grace abounds indeepest waters.

(04:27):
Your sovereign hand Will be myguide.
Your feet may fail, and thissurrounds me.
You've never failed and youwon't stop now.
So I will call upon your nameand keep my eyes above the waves

(05:00):
when oceans rise, with someimpressed In your embrace.
I am blessed and you are mine.
Oh, oh, spirit.

(05:43):
Lead me where my trust iswithout borders.
Let me walk upon the watersWherever you would call me.
Take me deep within.
My fear could ever wander and myfaith will be made stronger In

(06:05):
the presence of my Savior Spirit.
Lead me where my trust iswithout borders.
Let me walk upon the watersWherever you would call me.
Take me deep within.
My fear could ever wander andmy faith will be made stronger

(06:32):
In the presence of my SaviorSpirit.
Lead me where my trust iswithout borders.
Let me walk upon the watersWherever you would call me.
Take me deep within.
My fear could ever wander andmy faith will be made stronger

(06:59):
In the presence of my SaviorSpirit.
Lead me where my trust iswithout borders.
Let me walk upon the watersWherever you would call me.
Take me deep within.

(07:23):
My fear could ever wander andmy faith will be made stronger
In the presence of my Savior.
I will go upon your land andkeep my eyes and bones away when

(07:43):
it gets night or night or night, or night or night or night, or
rest in your hand when I amgone.
You are just like me I am goneand you are my.
I am gone, you are mine.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Oh man, y'all know how I do.
I cannot turn oceans out.
I gotta let Brie do her thingand bring us into the room.
Honey, good morning, goodafternoon, good evening,
wherever you are.
Thank you so so much for tuningin to this episode of Listen.

(08:45):
Linda, the Waiting Room I havesuch a special guest.
If y'all know me, y'all know Ido not have people down.
This platform is usually soughtout, but I stalked this lady
down.
I saw her on threads.

(09:06):
I was like Look, can you pleasejust come up on show, teach me
honey, teach me the game, put mein the game coach.
This lady is such aninspiration for young women,
older women, little girls acrossthe globe and I have never seen

(09:27):
her story told.
I see what she do.
I've been following her as ajournalist and as just someone
that's in like PR and radio andjust everything for a while, for
years now, and I'm like whynobody never had her on a show
Like?

(09:47):
These people are dropping theball.
If anybody knows this lady ordoes not know this lady, we're
gonna get into it.
Her name is Ms Robin Ayers andshe, to me, is like a media guru
.
I have crowned her the queen ofmedia.

(10:09):
This lady has interviewedeverybody, from Mariah Carey to
Usher, to everybody.
Okay, y'all saw Usher.
This is the ball.
She have had first classtickets.
Honey To Usher.
Okay, y'all don't know who sheis, look up, but you ain't gotta

(10:30):
look up, because I got her withme today.
How are you, ms Robin?
What do I call you?
Robin, rob, rob's, what do Icall you?
You have to unmute yourself,because I can't unmute you.
Just hit your button.

(10:52):
Gotta hit that little thing,robin.
Hit your little face so you canunmute yourself.
Robin, are you there?
I didn't get you this bombintroduction.
Now we gotta find a way tounmute you.

(11:16):
You have to unmute yourself,robin.
You have to hit that button.
Hit that little circle With thelittle man on the inside, and
it should unmute you.
You have to unmute yourself,robin.
You have to hit that button.
Hit that little circle With thelittle man on the inside and it
should unmute you.

(12:06):
Sorry, you guys, for the delay.
We gotta figure out how tounmute the lady, the lady of the
hour.
I'm going to have Robin comeout and then come back in, and

(12:49):
while we're doing that, we'regoing to finish the song.
All right, now try to unmute.
Now hit the button to unmute.

(13:10):
There we go.
Yay, dr Kira, we got the gun.
I'm saying I'm sorry we did it.
You know I got to go in andtake that part out.
That's okay.
How are you?
I'm great.
Look, I had to let my audienceknow like I had to hunt you down

(13:30):
.
I saw your threads.
I was like, yes, let me go onmy show.
I was so happy you said yes.
I was like, oh, that's cool,that's what's up.
Thank you so much.
That is really really cool.
Yes, like so you never know yoube having fans and don't even

(13:50):
know girl, you don't even know,yeah, I guess so I mean, I guess
so, but don't we all though,Don't we all?

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yes, I'm like, I know you like who is this girl
stalking me from Chicago.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
I don't know.
This girl is talking to me.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
No, no, no, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not, no, no, no, no, not atall, but I'm happy to be here,
I'm happy to finally.
You know, we worked it out.
We're finally on the line witheach other, so I'm definitely
happy to be here with you.
Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Now, before I start any show, I always start with
prayer and then, after prayer,then I get right into it, so you
won't have to run down youraccolade to anything like that.
I usually question you basedoff of my research and what I've
done on you.
Okay, that's how I get myaudience to get to know who you

(14:42):
are, because I ask the questionsthat people want to know.
Okay, okay, we're going tostart.
Okay, Dear Heavenly Father, wecome before you today with
grateful hearts as we start onthis journey.
In this interview with theinspiring Robin Ayers, we ask
for your guidance and wisdom aswe dive into her journey of

(15:05):
overcoming challenges anddiscovering her purpose.
May this conversation be asource of inspiration and
encouragement to all who listen.
In your name, we pray Amen,amen.
That was quick, I know.
Y'all know I usually go forabout a good two minutes, but we
got to get into some tea withRobin.
We had to let the Lord get hisfirst and ask my turn.

(15:30):
That's right.
That's right, based on Robin'sbio.
Okay, I've cultivated somequestions to kind of get us
going before we really dive deepinto what we hear to speak
about today.
So can you share with us howyour fashion career paved the

(15:50):
way for your current path inentertainment, reporting and
motivational speaking.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Well, the fashion career fashion just in general,
I believe is just a subsidiaryof entertainment.
It's just another branch.
So I got into fashion, though,because I didn't know what I
wanted to do when I was inschool.
I wasn't one of those kids who,you know, at a young age just
kind of figured it out.

(16:18):
I had to make my way, and evenwhen I graduated I was like I'm
not sure what I want to do, butwhat I knew I was always good at
was putting clothes togetherfor myself and for everyone else
.
But I didn't even know whatthat was in the fashion business
, and I wound up going to schooland landing in fashion

(16:40):
merchandising, and I learned alot about it.
But I guess the key thing that Itook away from not only school,
but even after I graduated, Istayed in fashion for a good
while, some years, and what Itook away from that was the art
of networking, the art of hustleand also keeping a really good

(17:05):
name for myself, because Irealized that your reputation,
your reputation, absolutelyprecedes you.
And so, yeah, although I lovedit, I was just like, okay, I
just found my way there.
That wasn't necessarily goingto be like my lifelong passion.
So, yeah, it led me.
I left fashion with a fewnuggets that I could take into

(17:28):
the broadcast journalism careerthat I have now.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Now, would you consider yourself a creative
visionary or creative?

Speaker 3 (17:41):
And yeah, 100%.
Why so?
Just because, when I look atover my lifespan, everything
that I've done has been creatingsomething, or, if I don't do it
, I have the vision to see itfor other people, and so I've
given so many ideas to people.

(18:03):
I've helped other people expandon their vision, and to me,
that's where a visionary, that'swhat a visionary does and a
creative does.
So it was fashion, it'sstorytelling, it's book writing,
it's all things that youutilize your mind for your

(18:23):
creativity for to put somethingout into the world.
Absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Because I feel the same way.
That's why I feel like when Isaid, when I meant that you know
you missed that part of theshow when I played on the song,
because that's awesome.
Now We've been took your moneylong, it's awesome.
No, yeah, I feel the same wayLike when I graduated high
school.
I did not know what I wanted todo.
All I knew and I'm gonna tellyou this, I'm gonna tell the

(18:52):
world it's not love my husband.
Anybody who know me know I loveme some of Mr Cox.
But I won best essay in highschool and college because the
theme was you know, what do youwant to do when you grow?
When you grow like, what do youwant to do?
And my, my response was I justwant to be rich and move next

(19:13):
door to Usher and marry him andhave his babies.
Like that was like serious,like I could bring it up, like I
still have the essay on mycomputer, like it's real, like
this was back in 2006, 2007,when I graduated high school.
So it's like so funny because,of course, it never happened,
right, I found somebody had away that a thank you, mr Cox

(19:35):
salute.
But moving on, you know I, youknow I never knew what I really
wanted to do, but I knew I couldwrite, I knew I was smart, you
know.
I knew like I had certain gifts, but I always tried to go
towards the corporate waybecause that was what everybody
was telling me I should do.

(19:55):
So I went into DCFS, I wentinto, you know, just you know,
being an executive assistant toan executive director and just
doing those things.
But those things didn't reallysuit me.
So when I was diagnosed withthyroid cancer, it actually sat
me down.
And then after that, I wasdiagnosed with thyroid cancer,

(20:16):
being diagnosed with lupus and,the next thing, you know, covid.
And then that opened my mind.
Me and my husband were sittingnow watching TV one night Funny
thing, and I scroll past thisthing on Facebook.
That was like, oh, it was frombook leaf.
Like, oh, we got this challenge.
No, like this 21-day challengeor whatever.
You just do poetry or whatever,and I've always been a good

(20:39):
poet.
So I was like, oh, we could dothis only $50.
Nail publisher to whatever.
Whatever that thing went andtook a mind of his own.
They say, you know, I'm here,work or hold a force.
Black member like I,best-selling author, like,
though, my kids are best-sellingauthors my husband's a
best-seller like these thingshappen Just by the grace of God,

(21:00):
but it's also because of thatcreative mindset.
Like you don't know where yougo Go, only God knows where
you'll go right.
That's why we, moving on tothis next question so throughout
your career, you've had theopportunity to interact with
notable figures in theentertainment industry.
How have these experiencesshaped your perspective on

(21:22):
storytelling and the power ofsharing Personal narratives,
like I've just shared mine withyou, like how has those
experience shaped you In yourstory teller and the power to of
sharing your personal narrative?

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Um, that's a?
That's an interesting question.
I I'm not sure that I've everlooked at how it's shaped me in
my storytelling, I guess.
The realization that I have,though, is, before I got into
this industry, I've always beenaround Notable names.
I've always been around peoplegrowing up.

(22:01):
I live in a certain part of LosAngeles, in the Valley in Los
Angeles, where a lot of peoplegrow up or a lot of people live,
and it's just, you know, it'sjust on, maybe 30 minutes away
from Hollywood, but you know thethe, the chaos of the city.
Many people don't live in inHollywood, you know.

(22:24):
We just go out there to workand then we drive back over here
to the Valley to come live, youknow, and in in peace and
Somewhat quiet or whatever, andso I grew up out here for them
for the most part, you know, myjunior high school years and up
is where this place hasdeveloped me, so I've always
been around these people in new,very early on.

(22:46):
That people, as as high Profileas you may be or Whatever,
whatever your credentials are oraccolades are, you're still
just a person to me.
You still just live down thestreet, or I've watched your
kids or your daughter and I arefriends and we go to eat, and so

(23:08):
I see you at home and behindclosed doors.
So I've always kind of feltthat way.
So I say that to say, when IActually officially entered into
this business and beganspeaking to a lot of, you know,
more notable people, I knew that, because I set aside your fame

(23:32):
or your notoriety, I canactually just focus on your
story.
I can actually just focus onwhat it took.
What kind of mindset does ittake that you've mastered to do
what you've done, that's goingto inspire the rest of the
people who are watching orlistening?
And that, to me, has sort ofresonated with me being like,

(23:57):
okay, I might not be, you know,a famous actor or famous singer
or whatever, I might not be anyof those things, but we all have
a platform to a certain degreewhere people are looking, people
are watching or listening.
So me being able to tap intothese people's stories, real
life stories, and not notnecessarily putting their, their

(24:21):
projects or their decorationson display, not letting that be
the topic of conversation, butdigging a little bit deep,
deeper than the surface, that'sallowed me to say you know what,
that's what people actuallycare about.
So when it comes time for me toshare my story.
That's, again, that's the thingthat people care about.
So in a sense, I guess maybethat's how it's Informed, the

(24:46):
way that I speak about my story,being able to tie those two
together how I interview and howpeople interview me or just
have a conversation Notnecessarily interviewing, but
just having conversations withpeople, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Perfect sense and that's that's the answer that I
was looking for.
A lot of times, we, we put theaccolades in front of the person
and that's the reason why Isaid, no, I'm gonna do my
research on people and that'show I've gained, you know, the
the audience that I have,because, you know, a lot of
times people like, oh, it's,this person, is that person, and

(25:24):
even though I just, I trulyadore, like everything that you
do I also, I'm the same way thatperson is still bleed blood
child, just like, just like youand me, bleed blood and breathe
air, just like we do.
And you know, I think that theyappreciated more when you, when
you, set aside what they do andreally want to know about them.

(25:46):
That's why I haven't mentioned,like your platforms, if you
notice anything.
I haven't mentioned yourplatforms, anything.
I really want to know the personbehind that, because I tell
people all the time On this show, like if we got to know car med
or the person behind car med oryou know Whoever rushed it, we
wouldn't have a problem givingthem our money every month.

(26:09):
You know what I'm saying?
Like I wouldn't have a problembuying into certain brands if I
knew the actual person behindthe brand.
So when we used to have thoseshows like Unsung or behind the
music and those type of showsthat we used to have, what was
it?
Planet Groove and those type ofthings that made us want to buy

(26:31):
those albums more, that made uswant to really be behind that
person or their music or theirbrand, because we got a time to
actually sit down and get toknow that person behind the
album, behind the song, behindthe brand.
So I'm so, so, very gratefulthat you're even here to even

(26:55):
tell us your story Now.
In your bio it's mentioned thatyou have presented motivational
speeches to various groups.
How do you tailor your speechesto resonate with different
audiences, such as womenconferences, church groups, high
schools and live events?

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Well, I actually used to be.
How it all started was I usedto be a speaker for a college, a
fashion school out here.
Ironically, I was no longer infashion, but I got hired as a
speaker for a fashion schoolcalled Fiddem and when I would
go to different high schools,the whole goal was to share with

(27:37):
the students about fashion, butit was all of my presentations
were geared towards theirspecific class.
So say, for instance, if youwere in economics or if you had
an English class or a math class, we had presentations that
would align with all of thosedifferent topics and so that

(28:03):
would just sort of let you knowabout fashion in a way that we
could talk about it through mathor through economics or
whatever.
But what I realized is,although I loved it because at
that time it was blendingfashion and speaking together, I
loved it but I found myselflooking into those kids' eyes,

(28:25):
those students, every time Iwent and being like I can't
leave you guys until I givey'all some sort of something,
something that's gonna help you,something that is going to
motivate you or something, justI don't know a piece of me.
And I found myself just after Ifinished my presentation.

(28:46):
I would go and I would saywhatever it was and I would just
have so many students.
After the class they'd come upto me and they're like, oh my
gosh, thank you so much for X, yand Z and saying this and
saying that or that hit my soulwhen you said whatever and I was
just like man, I love this.
I love being able to speak lifeinto people and it really

(29:10):
helped me to open up and it'ssort of my lens.
So when you asked about how Itailor the message, what I know
about my entire life is I'vebeen through the ringer.
I have family members who havebeen drug members.
I have family members who havebeen killed, family members who

(29:32):
spend time in jail.
I've seen a lot of differentthings with my own eyes.
I've lived in the hood, I'vegotten up out of the hood, I've
joined church.
So I'm a you know, but I joinedchurch when I was in my 20s, so
I know what it is to be aregular girl from the hood.
And then the flip changed mylife and dedicate my life to God
and I can look at life throughso many different lenses and

(29:56):
that in and of itself that issuch a relatable thing that
anybody.
Once I go into on stage or I'mlooking at a group of people,
the first thing I do is tellthem myself I'm like, listen,
I'm from this place.
Who can relate?
Or I've done this, I've seenthat, and I raise my hand who
could relate?
Automatically all the handsstart going up, because that's

(30:20):
how I get you guys to understand.
I'm here with you, I'm not hereabove you, I'm not here better
than you.
I'm here with you and I wasonce sitting in that chair and
but I know what it also feelslike to tap in to what God said
that we have.

(30:41):
God has given us the ability todo tap into that thing, have no
fear or overcome the fear or dothings even though you have the
fear.
And I also know how to win withthat.
So I can take that knowledgeand that experience.
I can take that and hopefullyspeak to audiences, no matter

(31:01):
where I am, if it's a church ora school or a boys and girls
club or just a group of peoplegetting together for a vision
board party, whatever it is.
I can take something that I'vebeen through and know how to
convey it to a point where theyunderstand, they can relate to

(31:23):
it, they understand it and thenhopefully embody what I'm saying
enough to actually go out thereand move their lives forward.
That's always my goal is totake something that I've said or
someone that I'm speaking, totake something and embody that
and move your life forward.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Thank you so much for that, and girl.
I think you just went throughlike three of my questions, but
I'm gonna ask them anyway.
Okay, so you mentioned thatyour goal is to inspire others
to overcome challenges andpursue their dreams.
What has been the mostrewarding aspect of this journey

(32:05):
for you?

Speaker 3 (32:10):
The most rewarding aspect has been I came from a
place where I was able to be astay at home.
I have twin daughters who arenow 17 years old.
But when I first got pregnant,my husband and I we decided he
would work, I would stay home.
I stopped my career in fashionand I was just chilling at home

(32:34):
and just sort of being ahousewife.
But remember, I'm a creativeand I'm a visionary.
So I'm sitting there reallyjust like I don't even know what
I'm doing here, Like, yeah,it's a blessing that he's able
to just sort of provide for mylife and our kids.
At the time I had kids, or Igave birth to my twins and I

(32:57):
stayed home with them for thefirst two years and then we put
them in preschool and all ofthat.
And from that moment of metrying to reenter into the
workforce and in a way that Iwanted to do I didn't wanna go
just get a job, I wanted to.
This sounds so crazy and italmost sounds like so entitled,

(33:21):
but it wasn't that.
It's just that I knew again,visionary, visionary if you know
that there is something thatyou want to do and even if you
don't know the first step ingetting it started.
If you know that there'ssomething you wanna do, all you
really have to do is just move.
You just gotta put a foot outthere.
You gotta put a foot and theuniverse wants to provide.

(33:42):
The universe wants you to getwhat you wanna get, so the
universe will provide the otherfoot to meet you, to take you a
little bit further, and then yougotta step and the universe is
gonna step right with you.
So that is what I did for somany years, but I don't know how
it looked to everybody else,but to me I was just like, as my

(34:03):
girls, my twins, kinda grewolder, they're looking at me and
they know that I don't knowwhat they knew, to be honest
with you, but in my mind I'mthinking they see daddy working
and they see that I'm here, Ipicked them up from school and I
cook and all of that, but Ididn't know that they really
understood what I was trying tobuild, and so one of my biggest

(34:28):
goals was for them to see meoperate in a space that I was
even proud of, and so I said foryears I was like I want them to
know that I make money, I wantthem to know that I have a
career.
I want them to see what I doand be proud of what I do, not
just look at their dad and belike my dad is the king.
I wanted them to look at theirmom and be like she's a queen.

(34:50):
So I'm just proud of the factthat I literally had a vision
Once.
I decided that this is what Iwanted to do.
I wanted to interview people, Iwanted to tell stories and I
wanted to be a big deal.
I wanted a big platform, notfor me, not for the fame, not
for the shine for myself, but Iwanted a big platform because

(35:13):
that told me, the bigger theplatform, the more people that
are gonna be watching thesestories, watching me talk to
these people and get somethingfrom it.
So it was never really about me, but I can say that the two
biggest proud moments are thefact that I had a vision and I
didn't know how to get itstarted.
I didn't know what to do, whoto talk to.

(35:35):
I just went out there and I didsomething and the universe and
God helped me move it along andI kept going.
No matter what the trials andtribulations that I came into, I
still overcame it and I keptgoing.
So I'm proud of that.
I'm also proud that my familyat this now we're talking 17

(35:56):
years old my two girls and myhusband are able to look at me
and be like you did that fromnothing.
You actually did that.
I was out the game.
I was at home, pregnant and ahousewife and all of that stuff,
and I was out the game when itcomes to career.
I didn't really know anybody toget it started.

(36:18):
I didn't have the cameras.
I didn't know anything aboutthe industry outside of the
people that I knew.
I knew a couple of people hereand there, but not for real, for
real.
So basically, what I've builtnow I can see was like wow, that
was a vision that I really madehappen, and my kids are able to

(36:40):
look at me.
I interviewed Nick Cannon theother day and my daughter almost
fell out.
She was like so you're not cool.
I can interview all of thesepeople in the world, but you're
not cool until your kids, untilyou interview somebody that your
kids think is cool.
And then my daughter she'slooking at me like, oh my gosh,

(37:00):
you interviewed Nick Cannon andNick Cannon followed me and
she's like he followed you.
This was actually before theinterview.
But it's those kind of momentswhere they can see that I'm out
here actually doing somethingand I still cook for them.
I still take them to school andpick them up and I still make
it happen.
But I still go do my radio showevery day and I come home but I

(37:23):
make sure everybody is good, Imake sure my husband is taken
care of and that he haseverything that he needs, but I
still go out here and make ithappen.
So those are the two, more sothan anything else in the
industry those little moments oflike oh, I met this person or
I've covered this event.
It's not that it's my family,those are my family and me

(37:44):
achieving the thing that I'vealways wanted to achieve over
the past several years.
That those are the biggesthighlights for me.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Thank you so much for that.
And you know what that just youjust really told my story.
Like I'm just in here, likethis lady is me, I've been at
home, I've been to stay at home.
My husband is a veteran, youknow, truck driver, you know.
So he gets up, he works, he didhis thing and went to war and

(38:17):
did 9-11 and he just liked theman right.
So it's like okay.
When I, when I got down sick andthen I had my son, seven years
ago, I became a stay at home momand I didn't really have a lot
Like I hadn't finished mycollege degree.
I was just like moving around.
You know what I'm saying?
Like work this little job for alittle while, sit down, work

(38:39):
this little job for a littlewhile, sit down, you know.
And then when I got diagnosed,I sat down Even more so it's
like.
But I knew that I wanted towrite.
I knew that I went to Columbiafor a year for broadcast
journalism.
I knew I wanted to be something.
But then it was.
It was when my oldest son hewas like seven at the time he

(39:01):
was like mommy, so you don'twork, and I was like what?
Like I don't work, no, youdon't you don't work.
And it was like a lot of familyon both sides would be like well
, jackie, what do you do, youknow?
Like.
So it was just like I wouldjust like basically sit at home,
lazy, like I don't do nothing,even though I'm cooking or

(39:23):
cleaning or, like you said,picking the kids up back and
forth from school, driving Uber,trying to figure out like what
I really wanted to do.
So when I started writing and Iwas like you know what I'm
going to take this on, but Ialso always wanted to do like
radio.
So when I found a way to dopodcast and I was like, okay,
well, I'm going to do that tooand I'm going to just see where

(39:44):
it takes me, and then not evenlike I've only had this, this
platform, robin, for four months.
So it's like in four months Ibecome a global podcast with
over a million listeners in 10different countries, and it's
like crazy.
But it's just like you saidwhen you put your foot out into
the universe, when you tell Godthat, okay, you know what, god,

(40:07):
I want this and it makes mehappy and it's not compromising
my spirit, my spirituality or mybelief in you Like I really
want to do this and I reallywant to touch lives and I really
every book that I wrote is isbeen a memoir about my life, so
I can tell people yes, I'm adomestic violence survivor.

(40:27):
Yes, you know, I suffer fromparental abandonment, both of my
mom and my dad on drugs, lostmy dad.
Been through all of this stuff,right, and I've overcome it.
I've been homeless, I've beenout on the street, I've been
neglected, I've been beat.
You know I've went through allof this stuff.
I've lived on part, I've sleptin parts, I've slept pillow to

(40:48):
post and I'm 34 and I got thisgray husband now and and I'm
here Like I have a story, I'mgoing to put it out there, but
I'm also going to create thisplatform.
I want this platform to be forwomen of color right, who have a
story that hasn't been told,that needs to be told, to touch

(41:09):
lives, not just a little blackgirl's life, but women
everywhere.
You know, all women can relateto our stories, but it's it's
our stories that don't get told,it's our stories that are at
the bottom of the totem pole.
And when I look, when my sontold me that I got back in

(41:30):
school, I finished my degree, Igraduated cum laude and it was
like when you, when you, whenyou really get out there, and
then I pushed myself evenfurther and I got a world record
.
You know, I pushed myselffurther and I joined the black,
the force black community.
You know, I pushed myselffurther and now I'm NYC Journal

(41:51):
top 40 under 40.
When you do those things and youdo it like you said, you got it
out the month, I got it out themonth I started out on a, on
somebody else's network, andthey were limited, what I could
and couldn't do, who I could andcouldn't interview, based on
the people they liked, and I waslike, no, I don't want to do it
that way, so let me just do itoff my back, off my dime, do it

(42:14):
myself, do it for you know, doit for the people and and do it
for God and do it in his nameand and thank him every time and
give him the glory, just likeCarlos King told me give God the
glory and he will glorify itright.
So, like when you do thosethings and you have people like
you, like Carlos King, like Zane, all these people who are

(42:38):
reaching out to me to push me,you know, like you know,
jacqueline Cox, I see you, I seewhat you're doing to Tabitha
Browns and all these people arepouring in to me.
I want to do the same thing forother people and I just I just
really appreciate people likeyou who are saying you know what

(42:58):
it's okay to be a stay-at-homemom.
But the most important thing iswhen my kids look at me now and
they see me in magazine andthey see my books and they see
me on Hulu and all thesedifferent platforms and they say
you know what that's my mom?
You know that's my mom and youknow those type of things and
creating that general, thatgenerational wealth for them.

(43:24):
You know, like now I got thisplatform.
My son, he's the best sellingauthor, he's 13.
He was the best selling authorat 11 years old.
He had one for my kids havetheir own clothing line now been
had it for three years, soldout the past three years.
You know what I'm saying.
Leaders like when you, when you,when you, when you, we are kids

(43:47):
see you doing something greatand doing something that they
can be proud of.
My husband and look at me now,even though my husband, like you
say, your husband always lovedyou.
Right, my husband always lovedme, always motivated me, always
wanted me to do better.
So now he can look at me andsay that's my wife right there.
You know what I'm saying, missLissa, linda is my wife.
You know, like those type ofthings we can appreciate because

(44:11):
we believe so much in ourselvesand we say yes to ourselves.
I just thank you for saying yesto you, because when you say
yes to you, you don't know thatyou planted a seed and birthed
me out of that.
Do you get what I'm saying?
I can look at you and say shedid it.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
So are you yes, absolutely no, and I appreciate
you saying that.
I think that's the best way.
When you said yes to yourself,you know that's just actually.
The word yes is just such apowerful thing.
I say that all the time.
Yes, it's just.
That's the only word that movessomething forward.

(44:52):
If you think about it, the onlyword that allows something to
happen is the word yes.
So, for sure, when you say yesto yourself, my God, like
everything, everything will openup for you.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, the doors will open up and if they don't open,
you can kick them down, comethrough the back door.
I just truly appreciate youtaking that step towards
yourself, because a lot of timeswe do get lost at, you know,
just being a mom or just being awife and being content with
that because all the bills arepaid and this and that.

(45:28):
But then when you don't wantthat time not saying that it
will come, but you don't wantthat time to come when somebody
can look at you and be like,well, I pay all the bills.
So you know what I'm sayingWell, I do this or I do that,
like it has to happen to me, butit better not happen.
Okay, but it ain't gonna happen, you know, because now I can

(45:48):
say you know, even though it'snot much, but I bring something
to the table and I'm contentwith that.
Once again, I don't have to bein the limelight.
If I want the limelight, thiswould be a visual show, right,
but it's not, it's audio,because I don't want people to
see me.
I want people to hear themessage, because when you see

(46:09):
the person, you're distracted,right, and a lot of people oh
well, you got this, and that'salways kind of been like a I
won't necessarily say insecurityof mine, but more so like I
watch that because people willlook at you and be like, oh, she
got that because she cute, oroh, she got that because she's
light-skinned.
Well, let's take that away andjust put a microphone over me.

(46:31):
Now you know, like why am Igetting it now?
Not that I have to proveanything to anybody but myself,
but it's more so.
Yes, I have to prove it tomyself because I know I'm smart,
I know I made the grades, Iknow I could do certain things.
But people will try to diminishthat or take that away from you
if you possess something thatthey wish they had.

(46:53):
A lot of times it's beauty.
A lot of times it's a goodhusband.
A lot of times it's great kids,right.
So they'll just take that andthey'll say, oh, you got that
because.
Or let's say you, oh.
They'll say, oh, you got thatbecause you friends with
so-and-so-and-so-and-so who's inthe industry, or me, oh.
They'll say, oh, you got thatbecause they like the way you
look, or because youlight-skinned, or because it's

(47:14):
this or because it's that.
It's always because it's neverbecause you're just great at
what you do.
No one wants to give you that.
That's why what they say Iheard Tia say that the other day
you live by the applause andthen you'll die by the booze.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
You know, and how true is that.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yeah, no, it's very true.
I mean, at one point, at onepoint a while ago, I actually
scrubbed all of my page, of allthe friends that I have in the
industry and I, you know my pagehas gone through many changes,
but for the most part, I wantedto let my work speak for itself.

(48:01):
And so, yeah, for the most part, I've taken that I have so many
friends in this business andit's not even a big deal.
I'm like.
You know, you can probablyGoogle me and find more pictures
of me and friends than you willfind on my personal Instagram
page, just because, again, youknow, I had to allow my work to

(48:24):
speak for itself, and you knowthat's a real thing.
You know, people do say thatyou've achieved your success
because of one thing or another,but I also don't vibrate on
that.
I don't vibrate on a low levelof like.
I don't even acknowledgenegative talk.

(48:46):
So people don't even reallycome on my page talking mess
just because they're not in theat least yeah, I just don't.
my level of vibration is just sohigh, and it always has been,
which is why I do what I do interms of like speaking, you know
, and people will believe that,because they see that I vibrate
at a high level.

(49:06):
But anyway, I was just saying Ifinally got to the point where
people can see you can see thelevel of and the quality of work
that I bring to the table.
But yeah, I just I also theother reason I took my friends
down is I didn't know how tohandle, initially, the people

(49:32):
hitting me up for differentthings, for different people
that I knew.
It almost felt like oh well,can you introduce me to this
person, cause I have somethingthat I think would be good for
them, and I definitely was.
I was new to that space, and sohow?

Speaker 2 (49:49):
That's called driving .
That's what I call driving,yeah yeah, you know you coming
for a reason.
But yeah definitely Trying toshade it like okay, like oh, and
then, next thing, you know, ithit me like oh, yeah, then
that's the reason why I don't,like I know a lot of people in
the industry and I do not putthem on my page Like I do not

(50:13):
specifically because, like yousaid, I don't name drop.
You know, like a lot of peopleI know, you know I've had
publicists try to hit me up.
Oh well, I've had this personon show, I have that person on
my show, I have this person onmy roster, but that means
nothing to me because they arejust like you say.
They bleed blood and breatheair just like we do.

(50:33):
So it's like when you name drop,it turns me completely off,
because that makes sense,because it's like, okay, I work
just as hard as that person, orI've done just as much as that
person.
I may not be in the same careerfield as that person, but I'm
just as qualified, or I don'tneed that to validate who I am

(50:57):
or what I do.
I try to let my work and mywork ethics speak for myself,
because you could put me in aroom with anybody and I will
outwork them.
I will outwork that.
I put me up, spar me withanybody.
I promise you nobody's workethic is more than mine to me.
Now I don't know, like logistics, why I was like I don't know

(51:18):
what you're doing every day, 24hours a day, right, but I know
I'm working.
I'm working from six in themorning to six the next morning.
I'm working, and if I'm not,I'm sleeping.
I get up and I'm working again.
So, with that being said, likeI can understand from that point
too, because it's like youbuild your career and you get to

(51:41):
a certain level and you don'tlike I don't mind being a vessel
, I don't mind because God putus here to be used, right,
because he wants to use us as avessel in order to provide for
other people.
That's why we're His humbleservants.
But you're not gonna use me andthen misuse me and then play in
my face Like you got to pickone, do it.

(52:04):
You pick out the Allen Gilligan.
Okay, but one of them like Idon't mind being used and we all
here to be used, but don't useme and then misuse me and then
try to come back and think thatyou're gonna spend a block, like
I don't do that and I don't dothe negativity thing either.
When I see somebody trying tobe negative on my page, you
immediately blocked.

(52:25):
My block list is the Egyptianscroll.
It's a mile long, because I'vedone like okay, you know what
I'm done, done, done, done.
I'm 34 years old.
I still got time to grow.
But I think that my way ofthinking is not the same way as
my peers, and I saw somethingtoday that resonated with me and

(52:45):
I think I put it on my page,where it says trees don't hang
with grass, even though theycome from the same space,
because the grass is gonna justremain where it is.
It's only gonna get to acertain level, right, but that
tree is gonna just grow.
And even though they both comefrom the ground, right, you're

(53:06):
not gonna.
It's like almost like whenyou're vibrating on a higher
frequency in life, like at your40 level.
You'll never see things the wayeverybody else here.
You're gonna always see it froma higher standpoint, from a
higher level in life.
It's just like a giraffe in amouse looking north.

(53:27):
The giraffe is gonna always seethings above ground level, but
they're not gonna see the thingsthe same.
So the mouse, the rat, may seea car coming down the street,
whereas that giraffe is gonnasee over the trees and see the
birds flying that way.
So when they say, okay, well,what's coming towards you?
Oh, a car is coming towards me.

(53:48):
No, birds are coming towards me.
We're gonna always see thingsdifferently.
So we can talk to a blue in theface, but if you're not on the
same level that I'm on mentallyand spiritually, we'll never.
I could talk to a blue in theface.
Until you're ready tounderstand and get it, you'll
never see it.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
I agree, so moving on .

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Cause I told you I got questions and I'm not gonna
keep you long, cause I told youone hour and I know like I'm on
your time and I'm on your dimeand I so so appreciate you.
I'm pretty sure my audience canappreciate you being here today
to just drop in major gems.
Spirituality and belief in Godare important aspects of your
life.
How does your faith influenceyour work and the message you

(54:37):
share with others?

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Yeah, my faith and my relationship with God is
paramount to everything.
I put that in.
I wrote a book called UnspokenLanguages and I told the story
of when I was three or fouryears old.
I was born in Milwaukee,actually, and I came out to
California when I was four and Itold the story of when I first

(55:06):
met God, or when he introducedhimself to me, and God told me
in that moment that I waslooking out it was me out of the
window still and I was lookingout into the backyard and the
sun was sort of shining on myshoulder and I felt the warmth

(55:27):
and I felt God and heard fromGod and the voice basically told
me that it wasn't always gonnabe like this.
Just because I grew up in a verytumultuous type of environment
with my dad who was alive then.
He was abusive, he was analcoholic, he was addicted to
drugs the whole night and it wasjust so dark in my environment,

(55:52):
in my life and God told me it'snot always gonna be like that
and he told me that he was gonnause me and he was gonna use me
to help them.
I didn't really know who themwas at the time, but as I grew
up and maintained myrelationship with God.
I didn't go to church, but Ialways had a relationship with
God and I laughed at some of thethings that how God and I

(56:16):
related to one another as I wasgrowing up.
But he's always stuck by myside and always reminded me that
, no matter what my currentconditions look like, I had a
bigger purpose and that it wasgonna be helping other people.
So that's always been where myfaith was.
I never tripped about if I wasin a situation where it was

(56:42):
looking low and dusty, and Istill have faith that.
That's not even how I get downLike I'm gonna make it about of
this.
All I had to do was again getclear, have a vision and kind of
move forward.
And so to this day, I love, Iappreciate God so much because

(57:06):
there are sometimes, probablymore than others, where I look
and I'm like this is what you'retalking about, god, like this
is what you're talking about.
And it also helps me to stay ontrack with what I do in my life
.
I have a passion for the art ofstorytelling and interviewing
and stuff like that and talkingto people and letting people

(57:28):
share with me.
I have a passion for that, butit keeps me on track when I know
that God is reminding me thatit's really all for His glory
and it's all for the purpose ofhelping other people.
It's never to get shine, it'sjust all about helping other
people.
So that's how it all ties intogether.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Well, I absolutely adore you.
I just wanna saycongratulations on everything
that you have going on.
If there's anything that we didnot mention, I want you to
mention it and then tell peoplewhere they can buy your book,
where they can find you, and Ialso would like, if you don't

(58:12):
mind, for you to take us out inprayer.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Well, I appreciate you again for having me on at
Robin Ayres on all the socialmedia platforms.
Ayers is my last name and Ihave a couple of books out.
One is for entrepreneurs it'sactually called the Rob Report
Bankable Business Nuggets forthe Rising Entrepreneur.

(58:39):
And my first book, which iscalled Unspoken Languages, is
Making your Belief Speak for you, and we're all born with a
certain measure of belief.
It's just, I believe, itstrengthens, it gets sharper the
more that you utilize it.
But how do you let your beliefsspeak for you?
How do you make it work for you?
So that's what my book is about, the first one.

(59:00):
You can go to Amazon, find meon there.
You could also find me.
I do a radio show.
It's an entertainment radioshow every single day where I
talk entertainment, news, hottopics.
We do interviews as well, andthat's on KBLA1580 radio.
So people who don't live in LAand can't get it on the radio,

(59:22):
you can just download theKBLA1580 app and you can listen
to it there.
It also streams live on YouTubeevery single day, which is at 6
pm Pacific time.
So it's six to 7 pm Pacifictime.
So we get people all across thecountry who are tapping in

(59:43):
people on the East Coast, peopleCentral Time or wherever just
tapping in on YouTube.
But the majority of our peopleare listening on the app just
because it's easier and it'srefreshing, no matter what time
of the day you listen into theapp, you're getting somebody.
It's a black-owned talk radiostation, so you're getting great

(01:00:05):
conversations, smart peopletalking, and then you get me
who's talking?
Entertainment and then we dorelationships, we talk.
I mean there's a lot going onon the station, so I would
advise and encourage everybodyto download that.
But again, I appreciate you forhaving me on, even just to share
a little bit of my story.

(01:00:25):
I appreciate that so much.
And, with that being said,father God, we love you, we
appreciate you, we crave you,lord, god, and praise you for
your glory, praise you for yourpresence, that, where two or
more are gathered in your name,there you are in the midst of us
, father God, we just thank youthat anybody who is listening

(01:00:46):
can take away something thatwill ignite a faith in them and
a belief in them that once theydo and they know that that
belief comes from you, fatherGod that they will ignite their
faith and take a step out and dosomething to move their life
forward.
That's what it's all about, andwe promise, at the end of the
day, to give you glory forwhatever it is, if it's a half

(01:01:08):
step or a whole step, whateverit is, whatever movement we do,
lord, god, we promise to giveyou all the glory and we'll
continue to praise you in thename of Jesus.
We just thank you and give youall the glory in Jesus' name,
amen.
Amen amen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
So I wanna thank everyone who is tuning in now
and who will catch the replay.
This will be available today.
Stairs to 12th.
This will be airing on allplatforms by 7 pm Central
Standard Time today.
I wanna thank Ms Robin Ayersfor coming on and gracing us

(01:01:45):
with her presence and droppingsome gems just about her life.
Dropping gems aboutmotivational speaking and how
she got to, but, mostimportantly, about her faith in
God and her faith in herself andher saying yes to herself, her
saying yes to her dreams, hergoals, her children, her husband

(01:02:05):
and just being just a beautifulbeacon of light for people like
me and people like you.
So, with that being said, I'msigning off.
This is listen, linda, andyou've just tuned in to the
waiting room.
I'm gonna leave you guys withblessings by Nicki Minaj and

(01:02:26):
Tasha Cobbs.
Have a great rest of your day.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Thank you cember 2018 .

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
I know that I'm a little bit out of control.
I'm a little bit out of control.
I know that the river that I gothrough and it heals me my
contract is already never ending.
I'm a little bit out of control.
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