July 28, 2025 • 55 mins
What happens when your name symbolizes neglect instead of love? When the people who should protect you dismiss your very existence? In this deeply moving conversation, author Dr. Audrey Ann unpacks the powerful journey of Jane—a character whose story continues to resonate with readers discovering their own worth.
Dr. Ann reveals the intimate inspirations behind "Jane's Journey," explaining how Jane's character emerged from her passion for people identified only by their names. While celebrities might welcome name recognition, Jane's name represents hurt, distrust, and alienation. This storyline mirrors the reality many face when caregivers provide basic necessities but withhold emotional connection—what psychologists identify as the most damaging parenting style: neglect and avoidance.
The author's candor about her personal struggles with invisibility gives profound depth to this discussion. "I went through that in a crowded room and nobody even knew I was there," she shares, detailing how these experiences shaped Jane's authentic journey toward self-acceptance. Listeners will find themselves nodding in recognition as Dr. Ann describes learning that "my voice is valid, whether anybody sees me or not"—the core transformation Jane undergoes.
Faith weaves throughout Jane's development, not as an instant solution but as a gradual unfolding that begins with learning to trust others before trusting an "unseen God." The conversation explores how Jane's spiritual growth parallels her emotional healing, offering a realistic portrayal that avoids simplistic religious tropes.
Most compelling are the author's reflections on writing the emotionally challenging scenes where Jane confronts her mother's unexpected reappearance and discovers her sister's ultimate betrayal. These raw moments in the narrative force both character and reader to wrestle with profound questions about forgiveness, boundaries, and reclaiming one's story.
Ready to continue this journey with Jane? Dr. Ann reveals details about the upcoming third installment, "Silver Moon," releasing this summer. Connect with her work at transitionlifecoach4you.com and discover why readers keep returning to Jane's world—a place where every voice matters, where healing happens in messy but beautiful ways, and where your name can finally mean what you choose it to mean.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey there, I'm Jacqueline Cox, but you might
know me as ListenLinda.
Um, where do I even begin?
I guess you could say I wearmany hats Podcast host,
entrepreneur, Mrs Illinois, usa,and so much more but it all
started with a simple passion totell stories and empower others
(00:26):
.
Building a platform wasn't easy.
There were days when I wonderedif anyone was even listening.
But then something amazinghappened.
I realized the power of myvoice.
Suddenly, my words werereaching people, touching lives,
making a difference.
Now I see my mission clearly tocreate spaces where every voice
(00:47):
can be heard, because when welisten to each other's stories,
we grow, we connect, we becomestronger.
Every voice matters, everystory has power.
So what's your story?
I'm here to listen and togetherwe can make our voices echo far
and wide.
To be a guest on Listen Linda.
Contact Jacqueline Cox onFacebook Messenger.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Listen, linda, listen , linda, hey, hey, hey.
My book club family, welcomeback to our final week together
as we close out this powerfuljourney through the pages of
Jane's Journey Jane's Journey byour featured author, the
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phenomenal Dr Audrey Ann.
This month has been real fullof reflection, healing and some
whoo that hit me moments, andtoday we are honored to have Dr
Audrey Ann herself here.
Live to pour into us, answeryour questions and give us just
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a glimpse of behind the nextstory.
If you've been holding backyour thoughts or questions, this
, right here, is your moment.
So don't be shy.
The comments are open and we'rehere for all of it.
Okay, but before we start,y'all know what I do.
I do what I do.
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I wouldn't do it if it was notfor the Lord, so we got to give
him all the praises, okay, hey,god, thank you.
Thank you for allowing us togather one more time and close
out this journey together.
Lord, you have been speakingthrough these pages all month
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and we just want to pause andgive you the glory for how
you've moved.
Lord, I want to say thank youso, so much for blessing us with
the presence of Dr Audrey Ann.
Thank you for every woman andman who picked up this book and
allowed you to work through thewords on those pages.
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Thank you for Audrey and Moses,her obedience to write, her
transparency and her strength.
Now we ask that tonight befilled with clarity, love,
wisdom and revelation.
Let this healing happen as wediscuss Jane's journey.
Let hearts be mended, minds berenewed and purpose be
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reawakened.
We give you all the glory inadvance for what you will do in
this final gathering.
In Jesus' mighty, mighty name.
Amen, amen, amen, amen, amen.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So how are you doing today, Audrey?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Amen, amen.
So how are you doing today,audrey?
Am I good, I'm doing?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
good, I'm doing good.
I don't know if you can see mymood shirt.
I have on my mood shirt todaybecause I'm not really sure what
mood I'm in oh, so you and Iare.
So I have on my mood shirttoday, but doing good, doing
good.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Today I'm actually wearing a shirt that I won in
the last um um, the lastmarathon that we had for walk
for lupus walk to end lupus nowfoundation here in Chicago, and
I participated because, ofcourse, I have lupus.
Both of my grandmothers on bothsides, my mom and my dad, both
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suffered from lupus, so I am anambassador for the Washington
Down Lupus Foundation.
So I decided to rep my squadbecause you have to, I think you
have to make at least $500 toget the shirt.
So we raised $500 and I was ableto get my shirt, so I'm very,
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very proud of it, and we willcontinue to fight to find the
cure for lupus.
But, yes, let's go ahead andget started on Jane's journey,
cause you know me.
I will roll off the topic.
So let's stay on task.
Let's stay on task, because youknow me, I will go off the
topic.
So let's stay on task, let'sstay on task.
So, dr Audrey Ann, so manyreaders said Jane reminded them
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of themselves at one point.
What inspires Jane's characterand how much of her story was
personal for you.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Well, I think the inspiration came.
Like I said last week, theinspiration came started because
I have I have a passion forpeople who are identified only
because of their name good, bador indifferent.
You know and and, yes, you knowwhen you're famous, when you
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know you're a famous actor,author, doctor or whatever.
You know, you want your name tobe recognizable.
You know, jackie and I and allof our um, author, um, um
colleagues, we all want to berecognized by our names and our
books.
Now, there are some people whothey you know they prefer to
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ghostwrite or they prefer tohave other name pen name, pen
name.
You know every word that Iwrite.
I want people to know I was theone that wrote it, you know.
You know so because I just want, I mean, you know they're my
words, yeah, they're my wordsyeah, so hey, why would I want
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my words?
and on the book it says you know, madeline Jones, you know, or
something you know.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So but we just say what now?
I say no shame to the ones thatdo, but we just saying how we
feel.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Yeah, for me personally.
But anyway, in Jane's case, hername represented neglect and
her name represented hurt, hername represented distrust, her
name represented being alienated, and so, and there are people
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in the world who go through thatas well, and even if it, even
if your name is Sally, you know,still there are people in this
world who go through that forone reason or another.
You know they go through itbecause someone that should be
there for them is not on purpose.
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You know someone for them isnot.
You know someone's not therefor them to from you know, as a
child, to raise them and to helpthem and to be there for them,
whether it be a mother or afather or a grandmother or aunt
or whatever.
But they are not there bychoice.
I just listened to.
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I like to listen to the storiesthat they have on Facebook, you
know, and you know some of themare like 30 minutes and some of
them are an hour long.
It's like a real book book, andso I listened to this one where
, um, the, the girl, um, themother and the child and a baby
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were homeless and it just kindof talked about all the things
they went through and the personthat rescued them and how,
before that person, nobody sawthem, you know, and you don't
have to be homeless for nobodyto for people to not see you.
You know, I went through that.
I went through that in acrowded room and nobody even
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knew I was there, you know.
And in a situation where Ithought that at least somebody
would say, oh hey, ourenne ishere, you know, and no, you know
so.
Or if my name was called forsome reason, it was like you
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know, you know, adrienne Coates,blah, blah, blah.
Adrienne Moses, blah, blah,blah.
Ok, and then rush to whateverelse is going on, whoever the
big name people are, and so, andso I've gone through that
feeling of not being seen, so,so that made it easier to write
about Jane as well, because Ihad to fight my way out of that
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darkness, you know, and so, andso I had to.
I had to learn that my voice isvalid, whether anybody sees me
or not.
You know, and I told you all myfriend helped.
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It comes to mental health, whenit comes to personal growth and
taking care of yourself.
It always stems down tounderstanding that you are
worthy, you know, and that'sbecause I had to learn that I
was worthy, I was in the Navy, Idid very well in the Navy, but
there were times when I had to,somebody had to push me aside
and say look, don't whimper.
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Say what you got to say.
You know, say what you got tosay, do what you got to do,
because this is you.
You know you are worthy, youhave worked for this, you have
worked hard for it and now youare here.
Own it, you know and so, and soI learned how to do that in the
Navy.
I learned how to own what ismine without being rude and
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disrespectful, without you knowcivilians only thing they see is
military yelling and screamingand cussing at each other.
But that's not the whole scene,you know.
But I learned how to do itwithout yelling and screaming
and cussing, and I learned howto do it and treat people with
respect.
So that's what Jane is learning, you know.
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She's learning that her voiceis valid and that, and that her
position in this world is therefor a purpose, you know, a
worthwhile purpose not to justbe a battering man, battering
ram, you know, for some sillylittle boy, you know.
So, yeah, so that's how Jane iscreated.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Well, you know what I want to comment on it, because
I don't know if you remember,but I was even saying that in
Mountains how all of my brothersand sisters, you know if you
remember, but I was even sayingthat in mountains how, um, all
of my brothers and sisters, youknow, growing up they all have
like these huge personalitiesand I was literally believe it
or not Now, I was the shy one, Iwas the, I was the quiet one, I
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didn't want to say anything, Ijust wanted to be kind of like
in the background because theyall like fought all the time,
like you know, and I didn't knowI did.
I always felt different.
So, because I wasn't really afighter, I was kind of like laid
back.
I was the one that would listento gospel songs and listen to
blues and you know, little stufflike that with my dad and stuff
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.
So I was real kind of chill andum, but I remember my mom.
She was off a binge one day.
She wasn't, she was like tryingto, you know, recover.
She was in recovery at onepoint and she was back at home
with us and we were walking tothe store and I would never
forget that.
Well, I did forget, but justcoming in my mind as you were
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talking, and I remember the daythat I had to start speaking up
for myself because I was walkingwith her to the store and when
we were on our way to the store,somebody said hey, jesse's
sister.
Now, Jesse is my little sister,so you can imagine.
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So my mom was looking likewho's she talking to?
And I was like, oh, she'stalking to me.
She's like, no, she's nottalking to you, because you have
a name.
Your name is Jackie.
Don't, don't, let nobody callyou Jessie, jessie's sister,
darcelle's sistercelle's sister,trust and sister juniors.
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No, your name is jackie and, ifyou want to be politically
correct, is jacqueline smith.
And when she said it she was solike passionate about I thought
she was upset at me, child.
I didn't know what was going on,but she was just like no, you
can't let people do that,because if you keep allowing
people to not call you by yourname and just call you based on
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whoever you know, somebody else,you will never have a place in
this world.
I remember she telling me thatjust because I'm sitting here
with me and you thank the Lordfor clarity, because I could
never understand what made mestart coming out my shell.
And right after that I startedcoming out my shell, just a
little bit and a little bit, butit got, until I got into high
school and my stepsisters wentto the same high school as I did
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.
So here we go again with thePam sister or Deitra sister.
So I, but I did it the wrong way.
So I started acting out becausey'all gonna know, know who I am
.
So I was fighting all thiscrazy, but they knew who I was.
But it wasn't always in thebest light, unless it was my
grades Right, because I had thehighest ACT score at the school,
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always getting good grades.
So it wasn't necessarily alwaysbad Right, but and that's why,
my counselor at the school.
She told me.
She said you don't have to actout for people to know who you
are.
You can do part.
If you do the good part, peoplewill still remember who you are,
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and that stuck with me too.
So thank you, ms Norris.
Thank you, you know, lindaValentine.
They all my friends on Facebook, even the ones that I was
acting out with, they've beenadding me on Facebook.
It's all love.
So, hey, all my teachers, Ilove all y'all.
But yeah, I started acting outbecause I was trying to get
people to know who I am, becauseI saw only thing I saw was how
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my sisters and brothers got theattention.
So I tried to do the same.
So I'm glad I'm out there, butnow I'm out that, but now I'm
out my shell and everybody knowwho.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I am.
So, that's good.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yes, ma'am.
So one thing I noticed was howJane clung to faith right, even
when everything around her feltlike it was falling apart.
Oh my goodness, it was justlike I was, just like my Jane
can't catch a break.
Every time you look up up, it'ssomething with Jane.
How do you encourage someone tokeep their faith when life
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keeps life in form, when theykeep throwing them storms like
how do you?
encourage them to just keepgoing.
Well, I know how you do it,because you do it for me, but
can you tell everybody else?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
well likeane is learning what faith even is,
because she never knew what thatwas, and so so it was a long,
it was a task for her to allowherself to um, trust other
people, and especially an unseengod.
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You know, know and um, but shetrusted, uh, mrs Johns.
You know, she trusted Mrs Johnsand she trusted Dr Matthews,
and so, in dead girl walking,and so, as she's going through
her journey, she learned how totrust her sister.
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Going through her journey, shelearned how to trust her sister,
and as she started learning howto trust people, then she also
started learning more about whatit meant to have faith in God
and have faith in herself andfaith in other people.
But it's a learning process.
It wasn't something that shejust and there it was.
She had to struggle through itand she's still struggling
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through it, but more and moreevery day, she is learning that
that is a very important andintricate part of her wellbeing,
and so, as she is growing inher mental health and her mental
wellness and her ability tospeak for herself, she's also
growing in her ability to speakfor herself.
She's also growing in herability to learn who to trust
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and who not to trust, and when,and that includes God yeah, well
, I know it was.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
it was um, when I saw how much, like once, she really
started reading, reading Bibleand going to therapy and being
Mrs John's papers her Jesuspapers.
Papers, jesus papers, and shestarted like going to church and
stuff.
And I just started seeing likethe transformation with her and
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dead girl walking.
I was so proud of her andJane's journey and how far she
just came along and maturing andthings just a little bit
differently than what she wouldnormally do.
So that was a bright light forme for the book.
It really allowed me to be likeyep, that's kind of like I'm
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right here with you, jane.
I understand what you got goingon, because I'm still doing the
same thing.
I'm still trying to read myJesus papers and get it together
.
Yeah, now one thing, anotherthing that I wanted to ask you
was there like a specificchapter that kind of broke you
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emotionally as you was writingit?
Like because she went through alot of ups and downs in both
books?
And I know, like, like withwith my book, zora story, right,
the, the, the um, the sequel toshatown diamond.
So when I was talking about thestory and I was talking because
you know, in Shottown DiamondZorba was kidnapped when she was
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a little baby.
Now she's in pain again and shegetting kidnapped again.
So I was very emotional writingit I had to step away because I
was crying, because I was like,why am I taking this poor child
through this again?
She already felt it, sheprobably forgot it.
Now here she got to go throughit again.
So was there any part of thatbook that had you like that
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emotionally and how did you pushthrough that moment?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
well, there was two parts um.
One part was um when Jane, whenJane's mother came unexpectedly
and let me see if I can find it.
(19:34):
Oh yeah, I remember that part.
Yeah, that was, I think it'schapter that's chapter.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I think it's 12.
Yeah, chapter 12 the birthdaysurprise right, chapter 12.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
So in chapter 12, you know, if you remember, in dead
girl walking, jane did not havea relationship with her family.
You know, because they chosenot to have a relationship with
her.
They were in contact with eachother but they were of no help
to her.
You know, it was our.
Handle it yourself, you know.
And which is how she was raised.
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Handle it yourself.
And so her family was adistinct description of.
If you look at parenting styles,the worst parenting style is
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neglect and avoidance.
That parenting style is wherethe children may be living in
the house with you, you makesure they have food, shelter,
and living in the house with you, you, you know you make sure
they have food, shelter andclothing, and that's it.
You know there is no emotionalconnection at all between the
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parent and the child.
And that's what Jane wentthrough, you know.
You know she went through thattime growing up where she knew
she got to the point where sheknew not to ask for anything.
She knew that they didn't careabout her feelings or if she was
being bullied at school, and alot of times her siblings were
bullying her.
You know so.
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So she just didn't have that.
So she, once she grew, once shebecame an adult and she started
learning that she really wasgoing to have to live on her own
, especially when her husbandwas beating her and she would
call her sister or brother ormom and nobody would come to
help her.
She knew she was really allalone and so she just started
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living her life without family.
She just started living herlife without family and when she
, in Jane's journey in Beaufort,her family showed up her mother
and her other sister showed up,you know, and it took her a
long time to regroup from that.
You know, during that time thatthey were there visiting she,
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she stood away from them, shestood back, she, um, she, she
did not want to like.
It was one of those thingswhere you lost my trust and and
I just can't, I can't pretendI'm happy to see you, right, you
know, that was basically howshe was going and, fortunately
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for me, I did not go throughthat personally, but I did go
through times when my motherwould say things and I knew they
weren't true, you know, and Iwould have to put on a smiley
face and say, oh, you know, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, you know
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when we're, when we're incompany.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
your mama lie in front of nobody, Because you
know, somewhere.
So you have to be just just letthem say what they don't say,
and you can't say that, becauseit's respectful, but she lies.
Say that because then it'sdisrespectful, but she lied.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
So she lied.
You can't do that.
No, yeah, you can't do that.
And so and I didn't, you know,I just left it alone.
And even though my mother isgone now, you know, in true life
I don't even, it's not a bigdeal I learned while she was
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alive to have a goodrelationship with her, despite
different things, and we had areally good relationship before
she died, and I'm really happyabout that, because it could
have been totally different, youknow.
And so that's what Jane is goingthrough.
She has to decide if, you know,at this point is she going to
try to have a decentrelationship with her mother or
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not.
You know, her mother has putout that olive leaf, so now it's
up to her to decide if she'sgoing to accept it.
And so she chose to try and letit work and help it work,
especially for her daughters.
You know she said that causeshe always feared when she left
New Orleans.
Her biggest sadness was thather daughters would not get to
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know their grandmother and theiraunts and uncles, you know,
except for Tamara.
So so this gives her and herdaughters an opportunity to find
some sort of medium of arelationship with her mother, so
that one was kind of, you knowit.
You know I had to reallystruggle to write the words so
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that everything was stillrespectful.
You know that, yes, we hadthese issues, but neither side
was going to be rude anddisrespectful to the other.
You know, yeah, and Tamara, youknow Tamara had to go through
the same thing because, you knowso, they, they both were there
kind of leaning on each otherand trying to decide OK, what
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are we going to do with thismother that just showed up all
of a sudden?
You know so.
So that that was that part.
And then, um, and her mothersaid something let me see if I
can find it.
Um, her mother said, okay, hereit is.
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She was some.
Well, first of all, the mothersaid they eventually figured out
that there was some issuesgoing on that nobody knew about,
and so Tamara's husband wassaying that you know they sort
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of thing.
And so the mother called herJane Doe, and Jane immediately
snapped at her mother and saiddon't ever call her that Her
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name is Jane, don't ever callher Jane Doe again.
And so the mother said that.
I know you are shocked to seeus.
To be honest, I'm shocked to behere.
Frank is right.
I had a mess, I made a mess ofmy family.
I'm getting older and older andI don they drive from New
Orleans to Beaufort.
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She said no, they no longerlive in New Orleans, they live
in Savannah, georgia, and thatour mother lives with her
temporarily.
Tamara and I both looked at eachother again.
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Tamara asked her when did shemove to Savannah?
Tamara asked her when did shemove to Savannah?
Samantha hesitated, as if shewas contemplating if she should
respond or not.
Finally she said they've beenliving there for two years, but
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anyway, it goes on down and itsays she's the mother is talking
and the mother is saying theysay my mind is going bad.
The social worker says it's aproblem because I forget to take
my medication, especiallyinsulin.
My brother is in.
Your brother is in jail forever.
Your nephew is in jail forever.
I didn't want to bother anyone,but the social worker called
Samantha.
Now I'm in Georgia with her.
When she said the social workercalled Samantha, I became
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furious.
I tried to hold it in but Icouldn't.
I blurted out and this is Janetalking.
I blurted out if Samantha wasnot in Savannah with her, how
did the social worker know tocall her with her.
How did the social worker knowto call her?
I said I don't understand whyshe did not have the social
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worker call me, since I wasright there.
So what she's saying isSamantha is all the way they
live in New Orleans, samantha isall the way in Savannah,
georgia and the social workercalls Samantha.
So instead of calling Jane,when Jane was right there in the
same area.
So it's things like that thatJane had to kind of deal with.
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It's like you know when is thisgoing to ever be over?
You know when is anybody goingto ever recognize the fact that
I'm here?
When you know?
And so anyway, the mother kindof apologized for that and she
thought that, you know, Janedidn't really want to be
bothered with her anyway.
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The other part in here is whenSamantha called Jane and I'm not
going to read all of thatbecause again you need to read
the book yeah, when Samanthacalls Jane and tells her that
that she has slept with herhusband, you know so.
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So Jane had to also deal withthat.
Samantha, you know Tamara andSamantha are twins.
Samantha, you know, tamara andSamantha are twins, but Samantha
was the one that was rightthere in New Orleans with Jane,
when her husband was beating onher and locking her out of the
house and doing all of thesethings and Samantha would never
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come and help her.
And all along Samantha wassleeping with her husband, and
so you know.
So you have to read the wholething to find out, you know.
But um, so that was kind ofhard for me too, because I was
like my sister would never.
First of all, my sister wouldnever be Samantha or that whole
family, you know, and so but thethe thought of me or my sister
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betraying each other, like thatwas just there was no way that I
could fathom.
I had no experience for writing, so I had to, like, really
depend on my.
How would I feel if?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
oh man, I can't even imagine that because, yeah, I
got a real close relationshipwith one of my sisters, my other
sister.
Uh, we got my other two sisters.
We're kind of strained but Ilove them.
The same right.
But to be honest with you, Idon't see me or my sisters, no
matter how near, how far.
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You know I love them, I lovethem, they love me.
We just life, be life.
And you know, I'm not evengoing to say a strain, it's just
everybody going through whatthey're going through at the
moment.
But I don't care.
You could lock, lock that manup with me and throw away the
key.
Nothing would.
I would never hunt and I don'tthink they would.
I know that they would not.
So it's like Jesus Christ.
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When I read that part I was somad at her sister.
Oh, I was so mad.
I was like Audrey got me in myfeels at a thousand baby because
ain't no way.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
But Well, she comes up again in the new book.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
No, she better not.
She better stay where she at.
Yeah, she better stay where sheat.
You like my cup.
I love it, it's so cute.
I'm trying to stay on point,but yes, it's very cute.
But yeah, she better stay whereshe at.
She better not come over hereto Silver Moon with that mess.
She could forget it over here.
But no, I'm stay where she is.
She better not come over hereto Silver Moon with that mess.
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She can forget it over here.
But no, I'm so, so glad that wewere able to get you on again,
because we have a lot of peoplewho were interested in Dead
Girls Walking that actuallypurchased the book.
When you came out with JaneJourney, I put it in a book club
and it said number one.
(32:08):
Everybody in the book club wassuper excited to read it.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
And I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Everybody likes it right now for a lot of the
members in the book club, but wealways have our MVP.
I got to give Myra a trophy oraward.
Yeah, I love Miss Myra.
She don't care what is going onin the world.
She will be at the bus stop andshe will still be on here going
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live with us to talk aboutthese books.
So we're going to give the micto Myra as soon as I see that
she's ready to come on so we canget her take of what she
thought about Jane's journey andif she has any questions or
anything she wants to ask you.
So give me a thumbs up, myra.
(32:57):
When you ready, I'm going toactually play a video from our
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It comes with a full book ofillustrations, a real children's
book that you can actually takeyour chapter of and make your
own children's book out of it.
So, like I said, we're going tobring to the stage Myra and
she's going to talk a little bitabout what she read from Dead
(35:03):
Girls Walking and then kind ofgive us some questions that she
wants to ask about Jane'sjourney.
Okay, so coming to the stage isMyra Cook.
Myra is what I like to call her, mama Myra.
So, myra, tell us just aboutwhat you thought about Dead
(35:24):
Girls Walking, and notnecessarily Jane's journey right
now, but Dead Girls Walking.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
It was good.
It reminds me sometimes of me.
You know my journey, how, you,how, with her not having leg
problems and all like that.
That kind of reminded me of mebecause all my life I would have
(35:55):
problems and I'd ask my mama.
I'd say, well, why, what'swrong with me?
She said, well, we didn't know.
I would have problems.
And I'd ask my mama, I said,well, why, what's wrong with me?
And she said, well, we didn'tknow.
They wouldn't ever take you tothe doctor to see.
And it's just, it reminded meso much of me because when I
went out to school I had everykind of ointment, alcohol,
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everything you know to relievethe pain, and never knew what
was wrong.
I still don't know, it justflares up every now and then.
But I enjoyed the book.
I'm trying to get mygranddaughter to read it.
You, know, she is hesitant aboutreading.
I said you said you wanted tostart back to reading, so here's
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a.
You said you wanted to startback to reading, so here's a
good book for you to start with.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, they are some really good books Now.
I know you were talking aboutJane's journey and I know you
haven't really you've got thebook but you haven't really had
a chance because of know life,be life.
But just from the conversationtoday about her with her mom and
trying to repair thatrelationship and sister finding
(37:04):
out the sister slept with thehook, just tell us what you
think about that do that makeyou want to crack that book open
as soon as we finish?
Speaker 5 (37:10):
I know, you know, you know, okay, I had three
brothers, but I had threebrothers.
Well, I have three brothers andwe are not close at all, even
growing up, and I'm trying toget back into their life.
One is in Korea, one's inAtlanta somewhere, and then I
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got my little brother here andyou know it.
Just, I don't want nothing fromthem, I just won't let them
know I'm here because, uh,nobody in my family say I love
you, I love you, nothing.
I don't ever remember hearingthat through my, you know,
(37:53):
through my life.
But uh, and then I'm trying towith my daughter.
She here, she ain't said a word, all she do is sit in that,
read or crochet, no conversationyeah, that's hard it's hard.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
It's so hard when you , when you're dealing with that,
you know, um, but we have tolearn how to break those cycles
and eventually that will warmthe heart.
Sometimes we can't wait toreach out.
We have to do it, as much assometimes we're afraid or we
don't know how we're going to bereceived.
(38:34):
By that, I think it's.
I think I would have told you Ilove you, mama Myra, a million
times since we met.
I love you, mama Myra, becauseI think it just you know, even
if you don't feel that fromsomebody in your immediate
family, just to hear someonesays it will kind of break the
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ice and open that up for you tobe able to do the same because,
just like you, waiting on them,amen, yeah, and I really
appreciate all y'all becauseI've grown to love all y'all.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
I was like god have mercy.
I just wish I could just get toyou sometime, just give you a
hug.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, yeah, so we want to know is there anything
else that you thought about Jane, about the story, about
anything else that you maywanted to ask Audrey and that
you never got a chance to askher about the book you?
Speaker 5 (39:33):
know what.
I'm sorry, but my memory isreally bad.
It seems like getting older, Ineed to start taking notes while
I'm reading my books and Idon't think about that and I
just but it was a good book, Ireally enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
I'm glad you read it, because I know you read it.
We've talked about it beforeglad you read it because I know
you read it.
We've talked about it before andI'm just glad that.
And then I really enjoy seeingyou pop up on my Facebook feed
or something.
I really enjoy seeing that.
So I really do appreciate.
You know, this was what we weretalking about earlier.
I was telling her how,sometimes, you know, we get to a
(40:14):
place where we kind of feellike maybe people are not paying
attention.
And I know one thing I see youpop up every now and then I'm
like there go Miss Myra, I likeher, you know she pops up and
say how you doing or whateveryou know, and I and I know
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everybody else appreciates ittoo when you do that to them.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
You know that's do.
That's why I said we got to getsomething.
Myra got to get a flower orsomething.
Myra comes in, myra comesthrough.
I'm going to have to name herthe honorary chairperson or
something.
Nobody come through on thisline Myra, myra.
I remember one day we was doinga show and she was at the bus
stop on her way home and she had.
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She was at the bus stop on herway home and she had the camera
at the bus stop talking aboutthe book.
That is.
That is persistence.
Okay, because you know that'sjust something that's repetitive
.
I try to, you know, be there foreverybody, because you know,
because it's just, and tosupport, because that support,
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that's the main thing, is tosupport you when you're doing
something good well, weappreciate you, myra, because,
like I remember, somebody said Ithink it was Ms Pat Gio George
Walker she had told me the otherday she she was thanking me for
something that I did, and shesaid it's not always about
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monetary things, right, it'sjust show up for people, for
people.
Presence is way better thanpresence is way better than
presence.
Okay, yes, and when you arepresent to people, a lot of
times that's the gift, that'sthe presence.
So we appreciate your presence.
(42:08):
It is really a present to usfor you to be here today and we
thank you so much, mama Mara.
You always, always, always gota seat right here at the table,
honey.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
Well, I thank you because I just you know, usually
I don't have nobody to talk toabout the books that I read.
And I got a good friend we readmostly the same books and then
when I give her a book to tellher to read, she said, well,
I'll see, and I get back in hercar still sitting in the back
(42:44):
seat and you know, and I don'thave nobody else to talk to
about the book I really want to,but that's, you know, most
people just not interested thatyou know in reading what I like
to read.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Yeah, I know how that is have this system and we can
all meet up every week and justdiscuss reading and discuss the
books, and you already know.
Anytime you feel like you wantto send me an inbox, you do.
Anyway, we love you, mama Myra,and we thank you so very much
(43:22):
for coming on.
We appreciate you so much.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
I thank y'all and just keep up the good work.
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Well, she just finished the work, so you got to
catch up with Jamie Journey soyou can get to see her in a
moment.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
Yeah, yeah, I know I've just been busy and not busy
.
I know I've just been busy andnot busy.
My sleep disorder sometimesjust takes over and when I get
home I'm out.
But I'm going to start takingnotes when I read my books,
because I forget O-A is not good.
(43:59):
I mean, ma'am, it's not good,it's not.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
When you finish reading Jane's Journey, make
sure you take your notes,because Silver Moon is the next
book about Jane and it'll be outsoon, at the end of the summer.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
Okay, I'll make sure, because I always keep a pad
with me, but I don't never thinkto pull it out.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Yes, ma'am, yes, ma'am, I do that too.
I write notes about the books Iread, because otherwise I
forget if I have a paper book, Iwrite in it.
But if it's, if I'm reading itonline, I definitely have to
take notes.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
All right, mama Myra.
Yes, ma'am, we're going to letyou go because I know you got
this real, real, real importantclass coming up on August 1st
that you got to be prepared forI don't know, if you forgot but
if you didn't forget, let meremind you.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
I haven't forgot, I'm ready.
Okay, good, prepare for thatclass girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
I'm ready we will talk with you soon, okay, we
love you okay, I love y'all toobye, bye.
I love you, mama, my too.
Bye-bye, I love my, I love MamaMyra.
Man, that lady is hilarious.
I love her so much, but yeah,so before we go, adrienne, is
(45:30):
there anything that you wouldlike the readers to know about
anything else that you havecoming up?
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Well, book three to the Dead Girl Walking series is
going to be out.
My plan is the end of thesummer.
It's called Silver Moon and itis a continuation of Jane's
journey, jane's walk, and so Iam working on it and looking
(46:06):
forward to it as well as you all, because I have no idea what's
going to happen, but it's comingthrough.
It's coming through, and alsonext year I'm going to have two
new books coming out One in mySaved by Grace series and one in
my Earl Grey series will becoming out.
(46:28):
I know at least two books.
So, you know, just look forthat and just you know, pray for
me and send me inbox notes andand do reviews, because reviews
do help other people to want toread the book, and so, but just
let me know what you think aboutthe book.
(46:49):
If you, if you don't do areview, at least you know, email
me or get me on Facebook.
Get me on Facebook, dr AdrienneMoses, you'll find me on
Facebook and any.
I have my basic, you know,facebook, note that Facebook
page.
And then I have my books,adrienne's books page and I have
(47:21):
, you know, my transitional lifecoach for you coaching page.
So, and for those of you thatare looking for coaching.
I am a Christian life coach andso you can reach me on my
website, which is here below umtransition life coach.
For you is the number fourletter ucom for my books and for
coaching, and you can email meat Audreyannsbooks at yahoocom.
(47:43):
And I'm just thankful toeverybody that purchases my
books and that have made DeadGirl Walking and Jane's Journey
number one.
I'm happy about that and Ipraise God every day for you and
for him giving me the words towrite and to just continue on.
And thank you, miss Jackie, Ilove you.
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You know I always tell peoplehow much I love her because you
know you give people theirflowers while they are alive and
can hear them.
And she is phenomenal.
Y'all have heard me say thatover and over and over.
She is phenomenal.
Go on her page and see foryourself.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Thank you so much, girl, because I've been whipping
it out there, yeah she's beenworking.
Well, I do want to say this.
We were just briefly talkingabout what we didn't, but we
hinted at what I was speakingwith Mama Myra, and that is the
21 Day Author Bootcamp Challenge.
At the bootcamp comes a lot ofperks.
(48:45):
You're going to get how tobecome a bestseller,
step-by-step on how to publishyour book.
You're going to get editing.
You're going to get formatting.
You're going to get weeklyprompts.
You're going to get one-on-onetraining with me once a week and
after that first day, your bookwill be published.
It comes with 10 free copies ofthe book as well as bestseller
(49:07):
status.
So you're going to get all ofthat for $600.
Now I've decided to bless twopeople doing a raffle.
Okay, so with this raffle, youcan join in on the raffle to get
uh, to get a spot of ascholarship for the upcoming.
(49:28):
So you can get all of that for150 dollars.
So if you purchase a raffleticket between now and the 30th,
the winner will be announced.
I will go on stream yard, so itwill be announced on YouTube,
on LinkedIn, on Facebook, onInstagram, on TikTok, on
(49:49):
wherever you follow me at.
I will be live on all of thoseplatforms and I will be doing
the spin wheel so you'll be ableto see the spin wheel on who's
going to be the winner.
So I will pick two.
So I will have two winners.
I have two spots left and Ithought, hey, why not get
somebody the opportunity whodon't have the money to purchase
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this class, but really havethings that they want to write
and want to publish?
You can get it all done withTempre.
You will get the same exactthings the workbook, everything
for $150.
Now, you can't beat that with abaseball bat.
If you try it on who's going topublish your book for $150 and
get you tickets and all of that.
(50:33):
But you are able to get that.
That will be my seat.
That will be sold to you.
So just imagine if youpurchased this raffle ticket and
only you purchased then you gotthe spot.
Okay, I ain't giving a lot oftime, so come on in, grab your
seat.
The offer is on the 30th,whoever signs up.
(50:56):
If only one person signed up,they got the spot.
If one person signed up, theygot the spot.
If another person signed up,they got the spot.
So make sure, don't snooze orlose.
If you got 150, you just mayhave a book, okay.
So, like I said we're going toclose out in prayer.
(51:16):
I'm going to go ahead and justthank you all for showing up
commenting, supporting, andthank you my mama, always coming
in and engaging week after week.
We don't just read books overhere, we unpack purpose honey
yes thank you so much forsharing you're welcome for every
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woman who saw herself in jane,some of us like me, who still
see myself in jane, goingthrough this journey.
We are still healing, stillgrowing, still learning to trust
you again, lord god.
But tonight we are showing upand we are ready.
God, let tonight beconfirmation for somebody, let
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it be healing, let it be peace.
Speak through every word, lordGod, every comment, every
question.
Have your way in this space.
Okay, god, we just want to saythank you.
Thank you again for showing up,like you always do.
Thank you for the safe spacefor the real conversation and
for the reminder that ourstories actually matter.
(52:24):
Thank you for Audrey N's yesand for the journey she took us
on through Jane's eyes.
And as we close this out, lordGod, I ask that you cover
everyone under the sound of myvoice.
Bless their homes, bless theirfamilies, bless their healing,
bless their finances and thestories that they're still
walking through.
Remind them, lord God, thatyou're not done writing their
(52:47):
chapters just yet.
Let this book club be more thana meeting.
Let it be a movement, and we'llkeep lifting up your name every
step of the way, in Jesus'mighty name, amen.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Amen, amen, All righty woman.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Next month's book will be if I were to write a
book in the Bible.
So if you have not grabbed thatbook, it is on Amazon right now
the Kindle version and thepaperback.
The Kindle version should stillbe 99 cents.
If it's not, it will be bytonight so you can go grab the
(53:25):
Kindle version of if I were towrite a book in the Bible.
That will be next month's bookand hopefully I will see you
guys here and we can kind ofdiscuss and go over the book and
tell me what you think, becausewe also have the if I were to
write a book in the Bibleanthology coming up.
So I want you guys to read it,what you think about it and if
(53:47):
you decide you wanted to join ifI were to write a book in a
Bible, the anthology is only$300 and you get all the same
perks.
Okay, love you guys.
Love the church.
Speaker 5 (54:01):
I know.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
I'm always pitching something, but it's my job.
That's what I'm supposed to doOkay, so I love you all.
And I will talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
All right, bye-bye.
Speaker 4 (54:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:11):
Listen, linda, listen , linda, hey, hey, hey.
My book club family, welcomeback to our final week together
as we close out this powerfuljourney through the pages of
Jane's Journey Jane's Journey byour featured author, the
(01:34):
phenomenal Dr Audrey Ann.
This month has been real fullof reflection, healing and some
whoo that hit me moments, andtoday we are honored to have Dr
Audrey Ann herself here.
Live to pour into us, answeryour questions and give us just
(01:59):
a glimpse of behind the nextstory.
If you've been holding backyour thoughts or questions, this
, right here, is your moment.
So don't be shy.
The comments are open and we'rehere for all of it.
Okay, but before we start,y'all know what I do.
I do what I do.
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I wouldn't do it if it was notfor the Lord, so we got to give
him all the praises, okay, hey,god, thank you.
Thank you for allowing us togather one more time and close
out this journey together.
Lord, you have been speakingthrough these pages all month
(02:42):
and we just want to pause andgive you the glory for how
you've moved.
Lord, I want to say thank youso, so much for blessing us with
the presence of Dr Audrey Ann.
Thank you for every woman andman who picked up this book and
allowed you to work through thewords on those pages.
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Thank you for Audrey and Moses,her obedience to write, her
transparency and her strength.
Now we ask that tonight befilled with clarity, love,
wisdom and revelation.
Let this healing happen as wediscuss Jane's journey.
Let hearts be mended, minds berenewed and purpose be
(03:26):
reawakened.
We give you all the glory inadvance for what you will do in
this final gathering.
In Jesus' mighty, mighty name.
Amen, amen, amen, amen, amen.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So how are you doing today, Audrey?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Amen, amen.
So how are you doing today,audrey?
Am I good, I'm doing?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
good, I'm doing good.
I don't know if you can see mymood shirt.
I have on my mood shirt todaybecause I'm not really sure what
mood I'm in oh, so you and Iare.
So I have on my mood shirttoday, but doing good, doing
good.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Today I'm actually wearing a shirt that I won in
the last um um, the lastmarathon that we had for walk
for lupus walk to end lupus nowfoundation here in Chicago, and
I participated because, ofcourse, I have lupus.
Both of my grandmothers on bothsides, my mom and my dad, both
(04:28):
suffered from lupus, so I am anambassador for the Washington
Down Lupus Foundation.
So I decided to rep my squadbecause you have to, I think you
have to make at least $500 toget the shirt.
So we raised $500 and I was ableto get my shirt, so I'm very,
(04:49):
very proud of it, and we willcontinue to fight to find the
cure for lupus.
But, yes, let's go ahead andget started on Jane's journey,
cause you know me.
I will roll off the topic.
So let's stay on task.
Let's stay on task, because youknow me, I will go off the
topic.
So let's stay on task, let'sstay on task.
So, dr Audrey Ann, so manyreaders said Jane reminded them
(05:13):
of themselves at one point.
What inspires Jane's characterand how much of her story was
personal for you.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Well, I think the inspiration came.
Like I said last week, theinspiration came started because
I have I have a passion forpeople who are identified only
because of their name good, bador indifferent.
You know and and, yes, you knowwhen you're famous, when you
(05:45):
know you're a famous actor,author, doctor or whatever.
You know, you want your name tobe recognizable.
You know, jackie and I and allof our um, author, um, um
colleagues, we all want to berecognized by our names and our
books.
Now, there are some people whothey you know they prefer to
(06:06):
ghostwrite or they prefer tohave other name pen name, pen
name.
You know every word that Iwrite.
I want people to know I was theone that wrote it, you know.
You know so because I just want, I mean, you know they're my
words, yeah, they're my wordsyeah, so hey, why would I want
(06:31):
my words?
and on the book it says you know, madeline Jones, you know, or
something you know.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So but we just say what now?
I say no shame to the ones thatdo, but we just saying how we
feel.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Yeah, for me personally.
But anyway, in Jane's case, hername represented neglect and
her name represented hurt, hername represented distrust, her
name represented being alienated, and so, and there are people
(07:09):
in the world who go through thatas well, and even if it, even
if your name is Sally, you know,still there are people in this
world who go through that forone reason or another.
You know they go through itbecause someone that should be
there for them is not on purpose.
(07:30):
You know someone for them isnot.
You know someone's not therefor them to from you know, as a
child, to raise them and to helpthem and to be there for them,
whether it be a mother or afather or a grandmother or aunt
or whatever.
But they are not there bychoice.
I just listened to.
(07:51):
I like to listen to the storiesthat they have on Facebook, you
know, and you know some of themare like 30 minutes and some of
them are an hour long.
It's like a real book book, andso I listened to this one where
, um, the, the girl, um, themother and the child and a baby
(08:11):
were homeless and it just kindof talked about all the things
they went through and the personthat rescued them and how,
before that person, nobody sawthem, you know, and you don't
have to be homeless for nobodyto for people to not see you.
You know, I went through that.
I went through that in acrowded room and nobody even
(08:34):
knew I was there, you know.
And in a situation where Ithought that at least somebody
would say, oh hey, ourenne ishere, you know, and no, you know
so.
Or if my name was called forsome reason, it was like you
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know, you know, adrienne Coates,blah, blah, blah.
Adrienne Moses, blah, blah,blah.
Ok, and then rush to whateverelse is going on, whoever the
big name people are, and so, andso I've gone through that
feeling of not being seen, so,so that made it easier to write
about Jane as well, because Ihad to fight my way out of that
(09:18):
darkness, you know, and so, andso I had to.
I had to learn that my voice isvalid, whether anybody sees me
or not.
You know, and I told you all myfriend helped.
(09:46):
It comes to mental health, whenit comes to personal growth and
taking care of yourself.
It always stems down tounderstanding that you are
worthy, you know, and that'sbecause I had to learn that I
was worthy, I was in the Navy, Idid very well in the Navy, but
there were times when I had to,somebody had to push me aside
and say look, don't whimper.
(10:09):
Say what you got to say.
You know, say what you got tosay, do what you got to do,
because this is you.
You know you are worthy, youhave worked for this, you have
worked hard for it and now youare here.
Own it, you know and so, and soI learned how to do that in the
Navy.
I learned how to own what ismine without being rude and
(10:31):
disrespectful, without you knowcivilians only thing they see is
military yelling and screamingand cussing at each other.
But that's not the whole scene,you know.
But I learned how to do itwithout yelling and screaming
and cussing, and I learned howto do it and treat people with
respect.
So that's what Jane is learning, you know.
(10:54):
She's learning that her voiceis valid and that, and that her
position in this world is therefor a purpose, you know, a
worthwhile purpose not to justbe a battering man, battering
ram, you know, for some sillylittle boy, you know.
So, yeah, so that's how Jane iscreated.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Well, you know what I want to comment on it, because
I don't know if you remember,but I was even saying that in
Mountains how all of my brothersand sisters, you know if you
remember, but I was even sayingthat in mountains how, um, all
of my brothers and sisters, youknow, growing up they all have
like these huge personalitiesand I was literally believe it
or not Now, I was the shy one, Iwas the, I was the quiet one, I
(11:40):
didn't want to say anything, Ijust wanted to be kind of like
in the background because theyall like fought all the time,
like you know, and I didn't knowI did.
I always felt different.
So, because I wasn't really afighter, I was kind of like laid
back.
I was the one that would listento gospel songs and listen to
blues and you know, little stufflike that with my dad and stuff
(12:01):
.
So I was real kind of chill andum, but I remember my mom.
She was off a binge one day.
She wasn't, she was like tryingto, you know, recover.
She was in recovery at onepoint and she was back at home
with us and we were walking tothe store and I would never
forget that.
Well, I did forget, but justcoming in my mind as you were
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talking, and I remember the daythat I had to start speaking up
for myself because I was walkingwith her to the store and when
we were on our way to the store,somebody said hey, jesse's
sister.
Now, Jesse is my little sister,so you can imagine.
(12:44):
So my mom was looking likewho's she talking to?
And I was like, oh, she'stalking to me.
She's like, no, she's nottalking to you, because you have
a name.
Your name is Jackie.
Don't, don't, let nobody callyou Jessie, jessie's sister,
darcelle's sistercelle's sister,trust and sister juniors.
(13:05):
No, your name is jackie and, ifyou want to be politically
correct, is jacqueline smith.
And when she said it she was solike passionate about I thought
she was upset at me, child.
I didn't know what was going on,but she was just like no, you
can't let people do that,because if you keep allowing
people to not call you by yourname and just call you based on
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whoever you know, somebody else,you will never have a place in
this world.
I remember she telling me thatjust because I'm sitting here
with me and you thank the Lordfor clarity, because I could
never understand what made mestart coming out my shell.
And right after that I startedcoming out my shell, just a
little bit and a little bit, butit got, until I got into high
school and my stepsisters wentto the same high school as I did
(13:52):
.
So here we go again with thePam sister or Deitra sister.
So I, but I did it the wrong way.
So I started acting out becausey'all gonna know, know who I am
.
So I was fighting all thiscrazy, but they knew who I was.
But it wasn't always in thebest light, unless it was my
grades Right, because I had thehighest ACT score at the school,
(14:14):
always getting good grades.
So it wasn't necessarily alwaysbad Right, but and that's why,
my counselor at the school.
She told me.
She said you don't have to actout for people to know who you
are.
You can do part.
If you do the good part, peoplewill still remember who you are,
(14:34):
and that stuck with me too.
So thank you, ms Norris.
Thank you, you know, lindaValentine.
They all my friends on Facebook, even the ones that I was
acting out with, they've beenadding me on Facebook.
It's all love.
So, hey, all my teachers, Ilove all y'all.
But yeah, I started acting outbecause I was trying to get
people to know who I am, becauseI saw only thing I saw was how
(14:55):
my sisters and brothers got theattention.
So I tried to do the same.
So I'm glad I'm out there, butnow I'm out that, but now I'm
out my shell and everybody knowwho.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I am.
So, that's good.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yes, ma'am.
So one thing I noticed was howJane clung to faith right, even
when everything around her feltlike it was falling apart.
Oh my goodness, it was justlike I was, just like my Jane
can't catch a break.
Every time you look up up, it'ssomething with Jane.
How do you encourage someone tokeep their faith when life
(15:30):
keeps life in form, when theykeep throwing them storms like
how do you?
encourage them to just keepgoing.
Well, I know how you do it,because you do it for me, but
can you tell everybody else?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
well likeane is learning what faith even is,
because she never knew what thatwas, and so so it was a long,
it was a task for her to allowherself to um, trust other
people, and especially an unseengod.
(16:03):
You know, know and um, but shetrusted, uh, mrs Johns.
You know, she trusted Mrs Johnsand she trusted Dr Matthews,
and so, in dead girl walking,and so, as she's going through
her journey, she learned how totrust her sister.
(16:24):
Going through her journey, shelearned how to trust her sister,
and as she started learning howto trust people, then she also
started learning more about whatit meant to have faith in God
and have faith in herself andfaith in other people.
But it's a learning process.
It wasn't something that shejust and there it was.
She had to struggle through itand she's still struggling
(16:45):
through it, but more and moreevery day, she is learning that
that is a very important andintricate part of her wellbeing,
and so, as she is growing inher mental health and her mental
wellness and her ability tospeak for herself, she's also
growing in her ability to speakfor herself.
She's also growing in herability to learn who to trust
(17:10):
and who not to trust, and when,and that includes God yeah, well
, I know it was.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
it was um, when I saw how much, like once, she really
started reading, reading Bibleand going to therapy and being
Mrs John's papers her Jesuspapers.
Papers, jesus papers, and shestarted like going to church and
stuff.
And I just started seeing likethe transformation with her and
(17:40):
dead girl walking.
I was so proud of her andJane's journey and how far she
just came along and maturing andthings just a little bit
differently than what she wouldnormally do.
So that was a bright light forme for the book.
It really allowed me to be likeyep, that's kind of like I'm
(18:01):
right here with you, jane.
I understand what you got goingon, because I'm still doing the
same thing.
I'm still trying to read myJesus papers and get it together
.
Yeah, now one thing, anotherthing that I wanted to ask you
was there like a specificchapter that kind of broke you
(18:25):
emotionally as you was writingit?
Like because she went through alot of ups and downs in both
books?
And I know, like, like withwith my book, zora story, right,
the, the, the um, the sequel toshatown diamond.
So when I was talking about thestory and I was talking because
you know, in Shottown DiamondZorba was kidnapped when she was
(18:46):
a little baby.
Now she's in pain again and shegetting kidnapped again.
So I was very emotional writingit I had to step away because I
was crying, because I was like,why am I taking this poor child
through this again?
She already felt it, sheprobably forgot it.
Now here she got to go throughit again.
So was there any part of thatbook that had you like that
(19:09):
emotionally and how did you pushthrough that moment?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
well, there was two parts um.
One part was um when Jane, whenJane's mother came unexpectedly
and let me see if I can find it.
(19:34):
Oh yeah, I remember that part.
Yeah, that was, I think it'schapter that's chapter.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I think it's 12.
Yeah, chapter 12 the birthdaysurprise right, chapter 12.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
So in chapter 12, you know, if you remember, in dead
girl walking, jane did not havea relationship with her family.
You know, because they chosenot to have a relationship with
her.
They were in contact with eachother but they were of no help
to her.
You know, it was our.
Handle it yourself, you know.
And which is how she was raised.
(20:13):
Handle it yourself.
And so her family was adistinct description of.
If you look at parenting styles,the worst parenting style is
(20:34):
neglect and avoidance.
That parenting style is wherethe children may be living in
the house with you, you makesure they have food, shelter,
and living in the house with you, you, you know you make sure
they have food, shelter andclothing, and that's it.
You know there is no emotionalconnection at all between the
(20:59):
parent and the child.
And that's what Jane wentthrough, you know.
You know she went through thattime growing up where she knew
she got to the point where sheknew not to ask for anything.
She knew that they didn't careabout her feelings or if she was
being bullied at school, and alot of times her siblings were
bullying her.
You know so.
(21:20):
So she just didn't have that.
So she, once she grew, once shebecame an adult and she started
learning that she really wasgoing to have to live on her own
, especially when her husbandwas beating her and she would
call her sister or brother ormom and nobody would come to
help her.
She knew she was really allalone and so she just started
(21:43):
living her life without family.
She just started living herlife without family and when she
, in Jane's journey in Beaufort,her family showed up her mother
and her other sister showed up,you know, and it took her a
long time to regroup from that.
You know, during that time thatthey were there visiting she,
(22:07):
she stood away from them, shestood back, she, um, she, she
did not want to like.
It was one of those thingswhere you lost my trust and and
I just can't, I can't pretendI'm happy to see you, right, you
know, that was basically howshe was going and, fortunately
(22:28):
for me, I did not go throughthat personally, but I did go
through times when my motherwould say things and I knew they
weren't true, you know, and Iwould have to put on a smiley
face and say, oh, you know, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, you know
(22:49):
when we're, when we're incompany.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
your mama lie in front of nobody, Because you
know, somewhere.
So you have to be just just letthem say what they don't say,
and you can't say that, becauseit's respectful, but she lies.
Say that because then it'sdisrespectful, but she lied.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
So she lied.
You can't do that.
No, yeah, you can't do that.
And so and I didn't, you know,I just left it alone.
And even though my mother isgone now, you know, in true life
I don't even, it's not a bigdeal I learned while she was
(23:31):
alive to have a goodrelationship with her, despite
different things, and we had areally good relationship before
she died, and I'm really happyabout that, because it could
have been totally different, youknow.
And so that's what Jane is goingthrough.
She has to decide if, you know,at this point is she going to
try to have a decentrelationship with her mother or
(23:51):
not.
You know, her mother has putout that olive leaf, so now it's
up to her to decide if she'sgoing to accept it.
And so she chose to try and letit work and help it work,
especially for her daughters.
You know she said that causeshe always feared when she left
New Orleans.
Her biggest sadness was thather daughters would not get to
(24:13):
know their grandmother and theiraunts and uncles, you know,
except for Tamara.
So so this gives her and herdaughters an opportunity to find
some sort of medium of arelationship with her mother, so
that one was kind of, you knowit.
You know I had to reallystruggle to write the words so
(24:37):
that everything was stillrespectful.
You know that, yes, we hadthese issues, but neither side
was going to be rude anddisrespectful to the other.
You know, yeah, and Tamara, youknow Tamara had to go through
the same thing because, you knowso, they, they both were there
kind of leaning on each otherand trying to decide OK, what
(25:01):
are we going to do with thismother that just showed up all
of a sudden?
You know so.
So that that was that part.
And then, um, and her mothersaid something let me see if I
can find it.
Um, her mother said, okay, hereit is.
(25:27):
She was some.
Well, first of all, the mothersaid they eventually figured out
that there was some issuesgoing on that nobody knew about,
and so Tamara's husband wassaying that you know they sort
(25:54):
of thing.
And so the mother called herJane Doe, and Jane immediately
snapped at her mother and saiddon't ever call her that Her
(26:19):
name is Jane, don't ever callher Jane Doe again.
And so the mother said that.
I know you are shocked to seeus.
To be honest, I'm shocked to behere.
Frank is right.
I had a mess, I made a mess ofmy family.
I'm getting older and older andI don they drive from New
Orleans to Beaufort.
(26:40):
She said no, they no longerlive in New Orleans, they live
in Savannah, georgia, and thatour mother lives with her
temporarily.
Tamara and I both looked at eachother again.
(27:01):
Tamara asked her when did shemove to Savannah?
Tamara asked her when did shemove to Savannah?
Samantha hesitated, as if shewas contemplating if she should
respond or not.
Finally she said they've beenliving there for two years, but
(27:30):
anyway, it goes on down and itsays she's the mother is talking
and the mother is saying theysay my mind is going bad.
The social worker says it's aproblem because I forget to take
my medication, especiallyinsulin.
My brother is in.
Your brother is in jail forever.
Your nephew is in jail forever.
I didn't want to bother anyone,but the social worker called
Samantha.
Now I'm in Georgia with her.
When she said the social workercalled Samantha, I became
(27:53):
furious.
I tried to hold it in but Icouldn't.
I blurted out and this is Janetalking.
I blurted out if Samantha wasnot in Savannah with her, how
did the social worker know tocall her with her.
How did the social worker knowto call her?
I said I don't understand whyshe did not have the social
(28:14):
worker call me, since I wasright there.
So what she's saying isSamantha is all the way they
live in New Orleans, samantha isall the way in Savannah,
georgia and the social workercalls Samantha.
So instead of calling Jane,when Jane was right there in the
same area.
So it's things like that thatJane had to kind of deal with.
(28:36):
It's like you know when is thisgoing to ever be over?
You know when is anybody goingto ever recognize the fact that
I'm here?
When you know?
And so anyway, the mother kindof apologized for that and she
thought that, you know, Janedidn't really want to be
bothered with her anyway.
(28:56):
The other part in here is whenSamantha called Jane and I'm not
going to read all of thatbecause again you need to read
the book yeah, when Samanthacalls Jane and tells her that
that she has slept with herhusband, you know so.
(29:18):
So Jane had to also deal withthat.
Samantha, you know Tamara andSamantha are twins.
Samantha, you know, tamara andSamantha are twins, but Samantha
was the one that was rightthere in New Orleans with Jane,
when her husband was beating onher and locking her out of the
house and doing all of thesethings and Samantha would never
(29:46):
come and help her.
And all along Samantha wassleeping with her husband, and
so you know.
So you have to read the wholething to find out, you know.
But um, so that was kind ofhard for me too, because I was
like my sister would never.
First of all, my sister wouldnever be Samantha or that whole
family, you know, and so but thethe thought of me or my sister
(30:11):
betraying each other, like thatwas just there was no way that I
could fathom.
I had no experience for writing, so I had to, like, really
depend on my.
How would I feel if?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
oh man, I can't even imagine that because, yeah, I
got a real close relationshipwith one of my sisters, my other
sister.
Uh, we got my other two sisters.
We're kind of strained but Ilove them.
The same right.
But to be honest with you, Idon't see me or my sisters, no
matter how near, how far.
(30:46):
You know I love them, I lovethem, they love me.
We just life, be life.
And you know, I'm not evengoing to say a strain, it's just
everybody going through whatthey're going through at the
moment.
But I don't care.
You could lock, lock that manup with me and throw away the
key.
Nothing would.
I would never hunt and I don'tthink they would.
I know that they would not.
So it's like Jesus Christ.
(31:07):
When I read that part I was somad at her sister.
Oh, I was so mad.
I was like Audrey got me in myfeels at a thousand baby because
ain't no way.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
But Well, she comes up again in the new book.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
No, she better not.
She better stay where she at.
Yeah, she better stay where sheat.
You like my cup.
I love it, it's so cute.
I'm trying to stay on point,but yes, it's very cute.
But yeah, she better stay whereshe at.
She better not come over hereto Silver Moon with that mess.
She could forget it over here.
But no, I'm stay where she is.
She better not come over hereto Silver Moon with that mess.
(31:47):
She can forget it over here.
But no, I'm so, so glad that wewere able to get you on again,
because we have a lot of peoplewho were interested in Dead
Girls Walking that actuallypurchased the book.
When you came out with JaneJourney, I put it in a book club
and it said number one.
(32:08):
Everybody in the book club wassuper excited to read it.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
And I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Everybody likes it right now for a lot of the
members in the book club, but wealways have our MVP.
I got to give Myra a trophy oraward.
Yeah, I love Miss Myra.
She don't care what is going onin the world.
She will be at the bus stop andshe will still be on here going
(32:35):
live with us to talk aboutthese books.
So we're going to give the micto Myra as soon as I see that
she's ready to come on so we canget her take of what she
thought about Jane's journey andif she has any questions or
anything she wants to ask you.
So give me a thumbs up, myra.
(32:57):
When you ready, I'm going toactually play a video from our
sponsor.
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Speaker 2 (34:20):
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anthology and with that I amlooking for authors.
It comes with a full book ofillustrations, a real children's
book that you can actually takeyour chapter of and make your
own children's book out of it.
So, like I said, we're going tobring to the stage Myra and
she's going to talk a little bitabout what she read from Dead
(35:03):
Girls Walking and then kind ofgive us some questions that she
wants to ask about Jane'sjourney.
Okay, so coming to the stage isMyra Cook.
Myra is what I like to call her, mama Myra.
So, myra, tell us just aboutwhat you thought about Dead
(35:24):
Girls Walking, and notnecessarily Jane's journey right
now, but Dead Girls Walking.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
It was good.
It reminds me sometimes of me.
You know my journey, how, you,how, with her not having leg
problems and all like that.
That kind of reminded me of mebecause all my life I would have
(35:55):
problems and I'd ask my mama.
I'd say, well, why, what'swrong with me?
She said, well, we didn't know.
I would have problems.
And I'd ask my mama, I said,well, why, what's wrong with me?
And she said, well, we didn'tknow.
They wouldn't ever take you tothe doctor to see.
And it's just, it reminded meso much of me because when I
went out to school I had everykind of ointment, alcohol,
(36:16):
everything you know to relievethe pain, and never knew what
was wrong.
I still don't know, it justflares up every now and then.
But I enjoyed the book.
I'm trying to get mygranddaughter to read it.
You, know, she is hesitant aboutreading.
I said you said you wanted tostart back to reading, so here's
(36:38):
a.
You said you wanted to startback to reading, so here's a
good book for you to start with.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, they are some really good books Now.
I know you were talking aboutJane's journey and I know you
haven't really you've got thebook but you haven't really had
a chance because of know life,be life.
But just from the conversationtoday about her with her mom and
trying to repair thatrelationship and sister finding
(37:04):
out the sister slept with thehook, just tell us what you
think about that do that makeyou want to crack that book open
as soon as we finish?
Speaker 5 (37:10):
I know, you know, you know, okay, I had three
brothers, but I had threebrothers.
Well, I have three brothers andwe are not close at all, even
growing up, and I'm trying toget back into their life.
One is in Korea, one's inAtlanta somewhere, and then I
(37:31):
got my little brother here andyou know it.
Just, I don't want nothing fromthem, I just won't let them
know I'm here because, uh,nobody in my family say I love
you, I love you, nothing.
I don't ever remember hearingthat through my, you know,
(37:53):
through my life.
But uh, and then I'm trying towith my daughter.
She here, she ain't said a word, all she do is sit in that,
read or crochet, no conversationyeah, that's hard it's hard.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
It's so hard when you , when you're dealing with that,
you know, um, but we have tolearn how to break those cycles
and eventually that will warmthe heart.
Sometimes we can't wait toreach out.
We have to do it, as much assometimes we're afraid or we
don't know how we're going to bereceived.
(38:34):
By that, I think it's.
I think I would have told you Ilove you, mama Myra, a million
times since we met.
I love you, mama Myra, becauseI think it just you know, even
if you don't feel that fromsomebody in your immediate
family, just to hear someonesays it will kind of break the
(38:55):
ice and open that up for you tobe able to do the same because,
just like you, waiting on them,amen, yeah, and I really
appreciate all y'all becauseI've grown to love all y'all.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
I was like god have mercy.
I just wish I could just get toyou sometime, just give you a
hug.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, yeah, so we want to know is there anything
else that you thought about Jane, about the story, about
anything else that you maywanted to ask Audrey and that
you never got a chance to askher about the book you?
Speaker 5 (39:33):
know what.
I'm sorry, but my memory isreally bad.
It seems like getting older, Ineed to start taking notes while
I'm reading my books and Idon't think about that and I
just but it was a good book, Ireally enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
I'm glad you read it, because I know you read it.
We've talked about it beforeglad you read it because I know
you read it.
We've talked about it before andI'm just glad that.
And then I really enjoy seeingyou pop up on my Facebook feed
or something.
I really enjoy seeing that.
So I really do appreciate.
You know, this was what we weretalking about earlier.
I was telling her how,sometimes, you know, we get to a
(40:14):
place where we kind of feellike maybe people are not paying
attention.
And I know one thing I see youpop up every now and then I'm
like there go Miss Myra, I likeher, you know she pops up and
say how you doing or whateveryou know, and I and I know
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everybody else appreciates ittoo when you do that to them.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
You know that's do.
That's why I said we got to getsomething.
Myra got to get a flower orsomething.
Myra comes in, myra comesthrough.
I'm going to have to name herthe honorary chairperson or
something.
Nobody come through on thisline Myra, myra.
I remember one day we was doinga show and she was at the bus
stop on her way home and she had.
(40:59):
She was at the bus stop on herway home and she had the camera
at the bus stop talking aboutthe book.
That is.
That is persistence.
Okay, because you know that'sjust something that's repetitive
.
I try to, you know, be there foreverybody, because you know,
because it's just, and tosupport, because that support,
(41:25):
that's the main thing, is tosupport you when you're doing
something good well, weappreciate you, myra, because,
like I remember, somebody said Ithink it was Ms Pat Gio George
Walker she had told me the otherday she she was thanking me for
something that I did, and shesaid it's not always about
(41:46):
monetary things, right, it'sjust show up for people, for
people.
Presence is way better thanpresence is way better than
presence.
Okay, yes, and when you arepresent to people, a lot of
times that's the gift, that'sthe presence.
So we appreciate your presence.
(42:08):
It is really a present to usfor you to be here today and we
thank you so much, mama Mara.
You always, always, always gota seat right here at the table,
honey.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
Well, I thank you because I just you know, usually
I don't have nobody to talk toabout the books that I read.
And I got a good friend we readmostly the same books and then
when I give her a book to tellher to read, she said, well,
I'll see, and I get back in hercar still sitting in the back
(42:44):
seat and you know, and I don'thave nobody else to talk to
about the book I really want to,but that's, you know, most
people just not interested thatyou know in reading what I like
to read.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Yeah, I know how that is have this system and we can
all meet up every week and justdiscuss reading and discuss the
books, and you already know.
Anytime you feel like you wantto send me an inbox, you do.
Anyway, we love you, mama Myra,and we thank you so very much
(43:22):
for coming on.
We appreciate you so much.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
I thank y'all and just keep up the good work.
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Well, she just finished the work, so you got to
catch up with Jamie Journey soyou can get to see her in a
moment.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
Yeah, yeah, I know I've just been busy and not busy
.
I know I've just been busy andnot busy.
My sleep disorder sometimesjust takes over and when I get
home I'm out.
But I'm going to start takingnotes when I read my books,
because I forget O-A is not good.
(43:59):
I mean, ma'am, it's not good,it's not.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
When you finish reading Jane's Journey, make
sure you take your notes,because Silver Moon is the next
book about Jane and it'll be outsoon, at the end of the summer.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
Okay, I'll make sure, because I always keep a pad
with me, but I don't never thinkto pull it out.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Yes, ma'am, yes, ma'am, I do that too.
I write notes about the books Iread, because otherwise I
forget if I have a paper book, Iwrite in it.
But if it's, if I'm reading itonline, I definitely have to
take notes.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
All right, mama Myra.
Yes, ma'am, we're going to letyou go because I know you got
this real, real, real importantclass coming up on August 1st
that you got to be prepared forI don't know, if you forgot but
if you didn't forget, let meremind you.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
I haven't forgot, I'm ready.
Okay, good, prepare for thatclass girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
I'm ready we will talk with you soon, okay, we
love you okay, I love y'all toobye, bye.
I love you, mama, my too.
Bye-bye, I love my, I love MamaMyra.
Man, that lady is hilarious.
I love her so much, but yeah,so before we go, adrienne, is
(45:30):
there anything that you wouldlike the readers to know about
anything else that you havecoming up?
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Well, book three to the Dead Girl Walking series is
going to be out.
My plan is the end of thesummer.
It's called Silver Moon and itis a continuation of Jane's
journey, jane's walk, and so Iam working on it and looking
(46:06):
forward to it as well as you all, because I have no idea what's
going to happen, but it's comingthrough.
It's coming through, and alsonext year I'm going to have two
new books coming out One in mySaved by Grace series and one in
my Earl Grey series will becoming out.
(46:28):
I know at least two books.
So, you know, just look forthat and just you know, pray for
me and send me inbox notes andand do reviews, because reviews
do help other people to want toread the book, and so, but just
let me know what you think aboutthe book.
(46:49):
If you, if you don't do areview, at least you know, email
me or get me on Facebook.
Get me on Facebook, dr AdrienneMoses, you'll find me on
Facebook and any.
I have my basic, you know,facebook, note that Facebook
page.
And then I have my books,adrienne's books page and I have
(47:21):
, you know, my transitional lifecoach for you coaching page.
So, and for those of you thatare looking for coaching.
I am a Christian life coach andso you can reach me on my
website, which is here below umtransition life coach.
For you is the number fourletter ucom for my books and for
coaching, and you can email meat Audreyannsbooks at yahoocom.
(47:43):
And I'm just thankful toeverybody that purchases my
books and that have made DeadGirl Walking and Jane's Journey
number one.
I'm happy about that and Ipraise God every day for you and
for him giving me the words towrite and to just continue on.
And thank you, miss Jackie, Ilove you.
(48:06):
You know I always tell peoplehow much I love her because you
know you give people theirflowers while they are alive and
can hear them.
And she is phenomenal.
Y'all have heard me say thatover and over and over.
She is phenomenal.
Go on her page and see foryourself.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Thank you so much, girl, because I've been whipping
it out there, yeah she's beenworking.
Well, I do want to say this.
We were just briefly talkingabout what we didn't, but we
hinted at what I was speakingwith Mama Myra, and that is the
21 Day Author Bootcamp Challenge.
At the bootcamp comes a lot ofperks.
(48:45):
You're going to get how tobecome a bestseller,
step-by-step on how to publishyour book.
You're going to get editing.
You're going to get formatting.
You're going to get weeklyprompts.
You're going to get one-on-onetraining with me once a week and
after that first day, your bookwill be published.
It comes with 10 free copies ofthe book as well as bestseller
(49:07):
status.
So you're going to get all ofthat for $600.
Now I've decided to bless twopeople doing a raffle.
Okay, so with this raffle, youcan join in on the raffle to get
uh, to get a spot of ascholarship for the upcoming.
(49:28):
So you can get all of that for150 dollars.
So if you purchase a raffleticket between now and the 30th,
the winner will be announced.
I will go on stream yard, so itwill be announced on YouTube,
on LinkedIn, on Facebook, onInstagram, on TikTok, on
(49:49):
wherever you follow me at.
I will be live on all of thoseplatforms and I will be doing
the spin wheel so you'll be ableto see the spin wheel on who's
going to be the winner.
So I will pick two.
So I will have two winners.
I have two spots left and Ithought, hey, why not get
somebody the opportunity whodon't have the money to purchase
(50:11):
this class, but really havethings that they want to write
and want to publish?
You can get it all done withTempre.
You will get the same exactthings the workbook, everything
for $150.
Now, you can't beat that with abaseball bat.
If you try it on who's going topublish your book for $150 and
get you tickets and all of that.
(50:33):
But you are able to get that.
That will be my seat.
That will be sold to you.
So just imagine if youpurchased this raffle ticket and
only you purchased then you gotthe spot.
Okay, I ain't giving a lot oftime, so come on in, grab your
seat.
The offer is on the 30th,whoever signs up.
(50:56):
If only one person signed up,they got the spot.
If one person signed up, theygot the spot.
If another person signed up,they got the spot.
So make sure, don't snooze orlose.
If you got 150, you just mayhave a book, okay.
So, like I said we're going toclose out in prayer.
(51:16):
I'm going to go ahead and justthank you all for showing up
commenting, supporting, andthank you my mama, always coming
in and engaging week after week.
We don't just read books overhere, we unpack purpose honey
yes thank you so much forsharing you're welcome for every
(51:42):
woman who saw herself in jane,some of us like me, who still
see myself in jane, goingthrough this journey.
We are still healing, stillgrowing, still learning to trust
you again, lord god.
But tonight we are showing upand we are ready.
God, let tonight beconfirmation for somebody, let
(52:02):
it be healing, let it be peace.
Speak through every word, lordGod, every comment, every
question.
Have your way in this space.
Okay, god, we just want to saythank you.
Thank you again for showing up,like you always do.
Thank you for the safe spacefor the real conversation and
for the reminder that ourstories actually matter.
(52:24):
Thank you for Audrey N's yesand for the journey she took us
on through Jane's eyes.
And as we close this out, lordGod, I ask that you cover
everyone under the sound of myvoice.
Bless their homes, bless theirfamilies, bless their healing,
bless their finances and thestories that they're still
walking through.
Remind them, lord God, thatyou're not done writing their
(52:47):
chapters just yet.
Let this book club be more thana meeting.
Let it be a movement, and we'llkeep lifting up your name every
step of the way, in Jesus'mighty name, amen.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Amen, amen, All righty woman.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Next month's book will be if I were to write a
book in the Bible.
So if you have not grabbed thatbook, it is on Amazon right now
the Kindle version and thepaperback.
The Kindle version should stillbe 99 cents.
If it's not, it will be bytonight so you can go grab the
(53:25):
Kindle version of if I were towrite a book in the Bible.
That will be next month's bookand hopefully I will see you
guys here and we can kind ofdiscuss and go over the book and
tell me what you think, becausewe also have the if I were to
write a book in the Bibleanthology coming up.
So I want you guys to read it,what you think about it and if
(53:47):
you decide you wanted to join ifI were to write a book in a
Bible, the anthology is only$300 and you get all the same
perks.
Okay, love you guys.
Love the church.
Speaker 5 (54:01):
I know.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
I'm always pitching something, but it's my job.
That's what I'm supposed to doOkay, so I love you all.
And I will talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
All right, bye-bye.
Speaker 4 (54:18):
There's a story inside you, but for years it's
been silenced by fear,procrastination and not knowing
where to start.
You've survived storms, you'vewalked through valleys and now
it's time to turn your pain intopurpose and your story into a
book.
This is your moment.
Welcome to the 21 Day AuthorBoot Camp, where aspiring
(54:38):
writers become published authorsin just three weeks.
You don't have to do it alone.
You just have to say yes.
Turn your testimony into atitle, Turn your journal into a
journey, Turn your story into abook that outlives you.
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The 21-Day Author Boot CampEnrollment is open.
Visit wwwlisten.
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