August 17, 2025 • 32 mins
Have you ever had to grieve someone while they were still breathing? Found yourself stuck in a waiting room while everyone else seemed to move forward? Sacrificed your peace because you thought being Christ-like meant being constantly available?
Dr. Jacqueline Cox (ListenLinda) takes us on a transformative journey through chapters 4-6 of her book "If I Were to Write a Book in the Bible," addressing the profound challenges many women face on their spiritual journeys. With raw honesty and prophetic insight, she creates a sacred space where healing doesn't require anyone's apology—just your permission.
In "Fine Like China, But Flawed, Like Me," Dr. Cox unveils the complicated grief of having a mother present in body but absent in nurturing. She speaks directly to daughters carrying the weight of honoring parents who also hurt them, offering the revolutionary truth that being both healing and holy is possible.
The discussion flows into "The Watch Tower of the Waiting Room," where Cox reframes seasons of delay not as punishment but as divine proving grounds. With poignant vulnerability, she shares her experience of watching others receive blessings she fasted for while trusting God's precise timing in her own life.
Perhaps most revolutionary is "Standing in My Peace at All Costs," where Cox dismantles the misconception that Christianity demands endless availability. "You are not their trash can; you are my temple," she declares, encouraging women to stop lying with their yeses and start honoring God with their nos.
The episode features a lightning round with Mama Myra, who recently authored "Finding Love at 70," where both women exchange profound insights about giving from guilt, grieving relationships, and guarding peace.
Whether you're navigating mother wounds, waiting seasons, or learning to protect your peace, this episode reminds you that you're not behind, forgotten, or disqualified—you're becoming. Join the conversation that's helping women reclaim their stories and stand firm in their God-given purpose.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey there, I'm Jacqueline Cox, but you might
know me as ListenLinda.
Um, where do I even begin?
I guess you could say I wearmany hats Podcast host,
entrepreneur, Mrs Illinois, usa,and so much more but it all
started with a simple passion totell stories and empower others
(00:26):
.
Building a platform wasn't easy.
There were days when I wonderedif anyone was even listening.
But then something amazinghappened.
I realized the power of myvoice.
Suddenly, my words werereaching people, touching lives,
making a difference.
Now I see my mission clearly tocreate spaces where every voice
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can be heard, thank you, andtogether we can make our voices
echo far and wide.
To be a guest on Listen Linda.
Contact Jacqueline Cox onFacebook Messenger.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Hey y'all, it's your girl, dr Jacqueline Cox.
Listen, linda and whoo, ifyou've made it to the book club
live tonight, just know youright on time, okay.
So we've been it to the bookclub live tonight, just know you
right on time, ok.
So we've been walking throughthis book together, chapter by
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chapter, and baby these pagesright here, these pages right
here, they write back, theywrite back.
Ok, if I were to write a bookin the Bible, it's not just
scripture style to me, it'ssurvivor style.
Ok, I didn't write this bookfor an applause, I wrote this
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from the ashes.
To be honest with you, I wasn'teven going to release this book
, but God put it on my heart torelease it and I thank God for
that.
But I also thank God for peoplelike Dr Velma Bagby who
encouraged me to release thisbook.
These are the pages God gave mewhen I didn't even have a
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platform, just pain and prayer.
Even have a platform, just painand prayer.
And tonight we're going to focuson chapters four, five and six.
And let me tell you, this iswhere the book goes from
breakthrough to boundary, fromgrief to growth.
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From why me to yes, lord.
Thank you, jesus.
From why me to yes, lord.
Thank you, jesus.
So, if you are watching, thankyou.
If you are participating, thankyou If you are streaming this
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from YouTube, facebook, linkedin, twitter, instagram, share it,
tag a sister who needs this,because we are going to talk
about mothers that we grievedwhile they were still alive.
We're going to talk aboutwaiting rooms that felt like
punishment, and we're going totalk about why your piece needs
security clearance.
Now, let's go, let's go, let'sgo.
God, we thank you for thissacred space.
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Thank you for every womanlistening under the sound of my
voice, for every tear thatturned into testimony and for
every page that became a praisereport.
Let tonight be full of healing,lord, god.
Let it be free.
Speak through these words likeonly you can, and remove
anything that's a distraction.
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Make room for divine downloads,lord, god, we surrender this
moment to you.
Lord, have your way in Jesusname, amen.
So we're going to talk aboutchapter four for now.
And it's called fine like China, but flawed, like me, listen,
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linda.
And it's called fine like china, but flawed, like me, listen,
linda.
This chapter it was so hard towrite, y'all, because it's not
just about my mother, it's aboutthe version of her that I kept
hoping that would show up okay,so.
So I know I'm not the only onewho had to grieve someone while
they were still breathing.
Some of us are the daughters offragile women who did their
best but they left us bleeding.
And some of us are trying toraise kids while we're still
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healing from that childhood thatwe never got.
So I'm going to read an excerptfrom it and I want to kind of
just read you just a little bitof it.
She gave me her name, but nother healing.
But God said you will be theinterruption, you will be the
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curse breaker.
You will be the interruption,you will be the curse breaker To
the daughters of complicatedmothers.
You are not less holy becauseyou are healing.
There's so much guilt when youtry to honor someone who also
hurt you.
But you know what I had torealize?
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God saw both of us.
He saw the brokenness in herand he saw the calling in me.
And for anybody that's watchingthis live tonight, if you never
heard your mama say I'm sorry,let me say this your healing
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doesn't need her apology.
Your healing needs yourpermission.
Now, if this is home for you,just comment I'm healing and
holy.
Let's declare that together, Iam healing and I am holy in
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Jesus name.
Now I want to move on to chapterfive, because chapter five was
really something for me.
That one is called the watchtower of the waiting room.
Let's talk about the waitingroom.
Y'all know I am one to talkabout.
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I have a whole anthologydevotional poetry book, just
volume one and two.
I got player cards on it.
The waiting room is somethingthat's very, very special to me
because it's not the hospitalone I'm talking about, the one
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God put you in, where you'vedone everything right but
nothing is moving.
Ok, I've sat in that waitingroom and, to be honest with you,
I still sit in some waitingrooms today.
I mentor folks who blew upbefore me.
I've watched others get blessed, blessings I fasted for, and I
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had to sit with that while stilltrusting him, while still
trusting God.
So I'm going to read an excerptfrom this chapter, which is
chapter five, and it says it isnot a punishment but a proving
ground.
He cut to heal, not to harm you, to the one watching others
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leave the waiting room whileyou're still in your gown.
Your appointment has not beencanceled.
Let me get real with y'all.
It was days that I criedbecause I knew I was gifted.
I knew it, but I was overlooked.
I was anointed, okay, but I wasalso underestimated, and God
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whispered to me.
He said, daughter, I'm not late, I'm precise.
I'm precise, I have precisionon what I'm going to in your
life.
So in that waiting room, godperformed surgery on me.
He performed surgery on me.
He removed people I idolized,that I put on pedestals as if
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they were so much more to me.
He revealed motives that Iignored because I saw what some
people was trying to do.
I saw their motives, but Istill ignored them because I
just had to have a friend Right.
He didn't just bless me, though.
He rebuilt me.
He rebuilt me.
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So if you can understand thatsometimes God God has you in
that waiting season right now,but you trust in that God's
hands are still on you, I wantyou to drop a like in the chat,
drop a heart in the chat.
Ok, let's keep this moving withchapter six.
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Now.
Chapter six is entitledstanding in my peace at all
costs.
Standing in my peace at allcosts.
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Now y'all, this chapter, thischapter standing in my piece at
all costs.
Oh, my goodness, the day I shutthe door to chaos.
There was a time when I thoughtbeing Christ-like meant being
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constantly available.
I gave my ear to everybodycrybabies, chaos makers and
chronic complainers.
I let folks dump, dump, dump,while I prayed, prayed and
prayed.
And you know what y'all?
I still kind of do some of thistoday.
I'm still a little guilty of it, but I'm learning now and as I
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go back and I read it, I'mreminding myself okay, because
God said daughter, that is notministry, that is manipulation.
You are not their trash can,you are my temple.
That is what God told me.
And that day I took my earsback and, like I said, I still
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have some days where I fallshort and I give people my ear.
They don't deserve it.
But baby, no, no, no, no, no, Iam not their trash can, I am
his temple.
That day I put my peace on apedestal and I dared anyone to
come for it without spiritualclearance.
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This chapter is for the oneswho's been used as emotional
dumpsters, the ones who thoughtbeing saved meant say yes to
everybody with a sad story, theones who used to answer calls
that disrupted their calling.
You could be sitting down,doing something, being in motion
, being into your call and doingwhat you're supposed to do and
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then you will get that, thatphone call that throw you all
the way off.
You will get that text messagethat distracts you.
You'll get that person callingyou with their boo-hoos and
their cries and I just needsomebody to talk to.
That is the trick of the enemy.
You are not their trash can.
Okay, I used to say yes.
Out of guilt the Lord said stoplying with your yes, stop lying
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with your yes, start honoringme with your no.
Okay, I had to learn.
Being available to everybodymade me unavailable to God.
I wasn't called to beeverybody's therapist, that
wasn't my calling.
I wasn't called to be anintercessor that was not my call
.
And I wasn't called to be theadvice hotline.
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Some of y'all need to deletethose contacts, not just clear
the notifications, because peace, peace, peace, peace is a
spiritual assignment.
And, baby, I'm not guardingmine like it's just, you know, a
little piece of paper.
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No, no, no, no, no.
I'm guarding mine like FortStewart, amen, okay.
So if you are tired of beingeverybody's trash, can type my
peace is prophetic.
If you reclaimed your quiet,your peace is your pulpit, and
not everybody gets a seat atthat.
Ok.
So take this moment to reflectthat sometimes it's OK to say no
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, it's OK, god will give youthat, god will give you that,
god will give you that.
No, he will say okay, no, thatthat's what you're supposed to
say.
If they if they want peace,they want guidance, they want
all that they got the same Godyou got.
And if they don't that's whattherapists are for okay.
So we're gonna do a lightninground real fast, short, short
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questions with real answers, andthis is where y'all speak up in
the chat or shout back on yourscreen.
I know I have a listener that'stuning in right now, but I'm
not sure she wants to come onscreen.
Do you want to come on screen?
(13:58):
Yes, no, myra, do you want tocome on screen?
Do this or this?
Well, I think, I think you wantto.
(14:27):
I'll bring you up.
Hey, myra.
Hi, I didn't know if you wantto come on or not, but I
couldn't understand what youwere saying, so I'm gonna bring
your screen so for you.
For those who don't know, myrajust dropped the pre-orders for
her book today from the 21 DayAuthor Boot Camp, and her book
is called Finding Love at 70.
This is her first solo projectunder the Listen Listen brand.
So I'm happy to have Myra heretoday because she's working hard
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, supposed to be doing herassignment, but she decided to
take a break.
Come on in, I appreciate you.
So do you mind doing thelightning round with me since
you're here, myra?
That's why I ask you a shortquestion and you get like 30
seconds to answer it, okay.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I'll try.
Oh yeah, it's not going to benone crazy.
The first one is what's the yesyou gave out of guilt that you
need to take back?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
The first one is what's the yes you gave out of
guilt that you need to take backwhen?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I gave my money away, girl.
I think we all got them.
I think we all got them, yeses,yes, and I should have said no.
You should have said no.
You should have said no.
Ooh, child, you know thatperson might be watching.
You still don't care, do you?
You want your money back?
Hey, whoever borrows money fromMama Myra, please give her her
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money back.
Okay, okay, who did you have togrieve before the funeral
Meaning, before they even died?
Who did you have to grieve thatloss of somebody?
To give you an example, madswas my mother, right, because
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she was lost to drug and alcoholaddiction, you know, and I
never got her back from that.
So I just had to grieve thefact that I didn't have a mama
in my life.
You know, that was a grief forme.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I guess you would say my friend Virginia, because I
didn't.
I mean, I saw her every now andthen but we didn't keep really
in touch.
And then when she diedunexpectedly, it just it really
hurt me and I couldn't get toher funeral, and that you know,
(16:43):
to say goodbye.
That really hurt.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, I had a situation like that with my
friend too.
My friend was Sherelle In thebook Mountains.
Her name was Sherelle, but itwas a different name in real
life.
But you know, for privacy Idon't really say her name
Buterelle but it was a differentname in real life.
But for privacy I don't reallysay her name, but it was kind of
the same.
We were estranged for a while,maybe about a year before she
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passed.
We finally reconnected and sheapologized to me for some things
that she'd done that you readabout in mountains.
And we were right just aboutgetting a little close.
I was going to see her mom, whopassed away right after her, in
the nursing home and everything.
And next thing, you know, sheended up dying from kidney
failure, my best friend.
She was only 30 years old andshe left two kids.
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So you know, that was somethingfor me.
That was something for me aswell, so I can definitely relate
to that.
The next question what did Godshow you in the waiting room
that changed how you worship himtoday?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That I can always rely on him first instead of
somebody else else, instead ofwaiting on somebody else to help
or you know, or just be therefor me, because I know he's
going to be there.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Mine was pretty much the same.
I had a codependency Not reallya codependency, but I just I
always felt like I had to havefriends, I had to have friends
yeah.
I had to have somebody to bethere for me.
You know, and I'm realizingmore and more every day, that a
lot of times friendships comewith motives, you know, and
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that's okay, I don't mind beingyou, but I'm not going to be you
.
Yeah, but I'm not going to usethe enemy.
Yeah, because we're all here tobe a help or a service to
somebody.
But if that's not reciprocatedor appreciated and it's only a
benefit from it, then that's notreally a friend.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Here's another one.
Mama Myra, what lie did youbelieve about yourself before
God interrupted it with thetruth?
Basically, what's theinsecurity that you had about
yourself before God showed youthat that wasn't true?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Insecurity, insecurity, I don't know, did I
think I could do it all bymyself and I can't?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
that's a good one, because you felt like I really
tried to do it by myself and youknow what I'm working on that
now, because I, I, I feel like Ijust I just don't want to
bother nobody, or I feel likeain't nobody gonna do it like me
, or yeah I've had so many timeswhere I've had reached out to
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people and they sabotage onpurpose because they don't want
to see you excel.
So it's like you see, I'm scaredto hire a graphic designer
because they're not going to doit to the to the level that I
need it to be done, or if theydo, they'll try to sabotage me.
So it's like I do it by myself,because if something is wrong, I
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don't have nobody to blame, butto trust.
Oh, they did that and it causedconfusion, so I'd just rather
try to do it by myself, but Ineed to hone in on that and
start trusting people more, andthat's something that I'm trying
to work on today.
So that's a great one, mike.
What's your new rule for peace?
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For who?
Peace, peace.
What's your new rule for peace?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Ooh, I don't have one right now, just sitting and
listening to music or reading,just you know, just be by myself
, no, talking to nobody, becausemost time they take it the
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wrong way.
And so I just rather just behere in my room like I am by
myself, and be peaceful, and youknow, just doing me.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, and that's another thing that I always had,
that now I'll tell you thatright now I know how to get to
myself, baby and turn that phoneoff and you won't baby, you
won't reach me.
But I think my new one now iswhat I said earlier today, when
I said I got to stop lying withmy yes and start honoring God
with my no.
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Because, like I said, the trickof the enemy will come.
You can be in the middle oftrying to, like you're doing
right now, complete yourassignment or do things, and
then that phone will ring.
Somebody called with some badnews, or they need some help, or
they need this and they needthat, or they'll call with an
argument, try to start someconfusion and all it leads to is
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you being distracted from yourgoal.
You're distracted from what Godcalled you to do.
That's basically what chapter 6was really about.
It was really about justreclaiming your peace,
reclaiming your time andfocusing on what God tells you
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to do.
You did good with the lightninground.
You made me think but then it'sgood though, because once you
think and you say those thingsout loud, yeah, you remember and
it puts you back intoperspective of what god wants
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you to do, like yeah like, like,like.
It don't come to mind until youhave to think about it.
He'd be like what is this?
You know what I'm saying?
What is this?
What is this?
Now, you can say it out loud.
You can put it out into theworld for God to bless it.
You get what I'm saying.
Have you got a chance to readthis book yet?
I'm reading it now.
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Once you'm reading it, now okay,okay, so once you once you
finish reading it, because it'snot a lot and I know you know
writing your own book amen butonce you and you get a chance to
kind of go through it.
I want you to go through it andI really want you to come back
to this live.
It's going to be on my page,Mama Myra, and just give your
take on chapters four through 16.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
All right, mama Myra, I'm going to drop you back down
because I'm about to get readyand wrap this up.
Okay, but it was a pleasure.
Thank you.
You know you always comethrough.
Mama Myra, you're my MVP for mybook club.
I got to do something specialfor you.
I love you so much and Iappreciate you for always coming
in.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I appreciate you too.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yes, ma'am, yes ma'am , we got to have each other back
.
That's what it's about.
That's what it's about.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yes, so that was Myra Cook Her book.
I want y'all to go get it rightnow.
Okay, to go get it right now.
Okay, I want y'all to emailMyraCook1951 at gmailcom
Pre-order her book.
It's $24.99.
It's under the Listen Lindapublishing brand.
It comes out very, very soonand the book is a novella.
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It's a romance novella calledFinding Love After 70.
I read it already.
Of course I did because I'm thepublisher, and when I say it is
phenomenal, it really is agreat book.
If you have not seen the trailer, go to my Facebook page, go to
my Instagram page, go to myLinkedIn page, just on all three
of those pages, okay, and itwill soon be on my website, so
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you guys can see that and clickon the link and email her at
Myra Cook at I mean Myra Cook1951 at Gmail dot com to place
your order for her book.
Ok, I'm going to go ahead andwrap up and do my call to action
, because we walk through motherwounds, waiting seasons and
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peace protection, and I thankeveryone who is catching the
replay, who's watching tonight,who's listening on iHeartRadio,
who's listening on Pandora,who's listening on Spotify,
who's listening on Player FM inall 27 countries that we are
streaming in right now,worldwide.
Thank you, thank you.
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Thank you for constantlyshowing up and showing out for
me.
I truly appreciate you and Ithank you.
And let me tell you this youare not behind, you are not
forgotten, you are notdisqualified.
You are becoming Okay, you arebecoming so.
If this has blessed you, sharethis live tag somebody.
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If you don't have the book, theebook is available on Amazon for
$9.99.
It's called If I Were to Writea Book in the Bible, okay, and
it basically goes through allthe books that I've written and
it takes those books, itsummarizes them and then it's in
actual scripture format, ok,actual Bible scripture format.
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So reread the chapters fourthrough six this week and let
them minister to you again.
And if you're feeling like youhave a book in you just know the
anthology is still open you canwrite your chapter too, okay,
so all you have to do is contactme on Facebook messenger I live
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there, okay, and let's get yourstory out there, because if I
could write a book in the Bible,so can you, okay.
God, thank you for the heartsthat were touched tonight.
Thank you for the women who arefinally letting go, sitting
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still and standing in peace.
Lord, god, we ask you to coverevery testimony that was stirred
up tonight, that stirred uptoday, that stirred up this
afternoon, this evening orwhenever the sound of my voice,
the people who are listening tothe sound of my voice, are
hearing this podcast.
Okay, we ask that you coverevery testimony that was stirred
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up tonight.
Let this not just be a lie.
We declare it's a lifting Amen.
Thank you for choosing us, evenwhen we were cracked, crushed
or confused.
Lord God, we honor you and wegive it all back to you in
Jesus' mighty name.
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Amen.
That is going to conclude theListen Linda Book Club live
tonight.
Amen Again.
Thank you so much, janae Ray,for coming in.
Please catch this replay ofthis.
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If you have not grabbed the if Iwere to write a book in the
Bible, please do so.
Okay, it's on Amazon.
You can purchase it.
The paperback is $19.99 and theebook is $9.99.
It's also available on audiobook, okay.
So if you want to get the audiobook, you can also purchase it
(28:28):
on Amazon.
If you would like to join theif I were to write a book in the
Bible anthology, I have thatcoming out.
I am still taking submissionsfor that, so please contact me
if you're interested in takingyour story and turn it into a
book in the Bible.
Okay, that's all folks.
That's all I get.
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It's time to turn your paininto purpose, your struggle into
strength.
Hey there, I'm Jacqueline Cox, but you might
know me as ListenLinda.
Um, where do I even begin?
I guess you could say I wearmany hats Podcast host,
entrepreneur, Mrs Illinois, usa,and so much more but it all
started with a simple passion totell stories and empower others
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.
Building a platform wasn't easy.
There were days when I wonderedif anyone was even listening.
But then something amazinghappened.
I realized the power of myvoice.
Suddenly, my words werereaching people, touching lives,
making a difference.
Now I see my mission clearly tocreate spaces where every voice
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can be heard, thank you, andtogether we can make our voices
echo far and wide.
To be a guest on Listen Linda.
Contact Jacqueline Cox onFacebook Messenger.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Hey y'all, it's your girl, dr Jacqueline Cox.
Listen, linda and whoo, ifyou've made it to the book club
live tonight, just know youright on time, okay.
So we've been it to the bookclub live tonight, just know you
right on time, ok.
So we've been walking throughthis book together, chapter by
(01:36):
chapter, and baby these pagesright here, these pages right
here, they write back, theywrite back.
Ok, if I were to write a bookin the Bible, it's not just
scripture style to me, it'ssurvivor style.
Ok, I didn't write this bookfor an applause, I wrote this
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from the ashes.
To be honest with you, I wasn'teven going to release this book
, but God put it on my heart torelease it and I thank God for
that.
But I also thank God for peoplelike Dr Velma Bagby who
encouraged me to release thisbook.
These are the pages God gave mewhen I didn't even have a
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platform, just pain and prayer.
Even have a platform, just painand prayer.
And tonight we're going to focuson chapters four, five and six.
And let me tell you, this iswhere the book goes from
breakthrough to boundary, fromgrief to growth.
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From why me to yes, lord.
Thank you, jesus.
From why me to yes, lord.
Thank you, jesus.
So, if you are watching, thankyou.
If you are participating, thankyou If you are streaming this
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from YouTube, facebook, linkedin, twitter, instagram, share it,
tag a sister who needs this,because we are going to talk
about mothers that we grievedwhile they were still alive.
We're going to talk aboutwaiting rooms that felt like
punishment, and we're going totalk about why your piece needs
security clearance.
Now, let's go, let's go, let'sgo.
God, we thank you for thissacred space.
(03:25):
Thank you for every womanlistening under the sound of my
voice, for every tear thatturned into testimony and for
every page that became a praisereport.
Let tonight be full of healing,lord, god.
Let it be free.
Speak through these words likeonly you can, and remove
anything that's a distraction.
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Make room for divine downloads,lord, god, we surrender this
moment to you.
Lord, have your way in Jesusname, amen.
So we're going to talk aboutchapter four for now.
And it's called fine like China, but flawed, like me, listen,
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linda.
And it's called fine like china, but flawed, like me, listen,
linda.
This chapter it was so hard towrite, y'all, because it's not
just about my mother, it's aboutthe version of her that I kept
hoping that would show up okay,so.
So I know I'm not the only onewho had to grieve someone while
they were still breathing.
Some of us are the daughters offragile women who did their
best but they left us bleeding.
And some of us are trying toraise kids while we're still
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healing from that childhood thatwe never got.
So I'm going to read an excerptfrom it and I want to kind of
just read you just a little bitof it.
She gave me her name, but nother healing.
But God said you will be theinterruption, you will be the
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curse breaker.
You will be the interruption,you will be the curse breaker To
the daughters of complicatedmothers.
You are not less holy becauseyou are healing.
There's so much guilt when youtry to honor someone who also
hurt you.
But you know what I had torealize?
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God saw both of us.
He saw the brokenness in herand he saw the calling in me.
And for anybody that's watchingthis live tonight, if you never
heard your mama say I'm sorry,let me say this your healing
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doesn't need her apology.
Your healing needs yourpermission.
Now, if this is home for you,just comment I'm healing and
holy.
Let's declare that together, Iam healing and I am holy in
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Jesus name.
Now I want to move on to chapterfive, because chapter five was
really something for me.
That one is called the watchtower of the waiting room.
Let's talk about the waitingroom.
Y'all know I am one to talkabout.
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I have a whole anthologydevotional poetry book, just
volume one and two.
I got player cards on it.
The waiting room is somethingthat's very, very special to me
because it's not the hospitalone I'm talking about, the one
(07:02):
God put you in, where you'vedone everything right but
nothing is moving.
Ok, I've sat in that waitingroom and, to be honest with you,
I still sit in some waitingrooms today.
I mentor folks who blew upbefore me.
I've watched others get blessed, blessings I fasted for, and I
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had to sit with that while stilltrusting him, while still
trusting God.
So I'm going to read an excerptfrom this chapter, which is
chapter five, and it says it isnot a punishment but a proving
ground.
He cut to heal, not to harm you, to the one watching others
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leave the waiting room whileyou're still in your gown.
Your appointment has not beencanceled.
Let me get real with y'all.
It was days that I criedbecause I knew I was gifted.
I knew it, but I was overlooked.
I was anointed, okay, but I wasalso underestimated, and God
(08:16):
whispered to me.
He said, daughter, I'm not late, I'm precise.
I'm precise, I have precisionon what I'm going to in your
life.
So in that waiting room, godperformed surgery on me.
He performed surgery on me.
He removed people I idolized,that I put on pedestals as if
(08:38):
they were so much more to me.
He revealed motives that Iignored because I saw what some
people was trying to do.
I saw their motives, but Istill ignored them because I
just had to have a friend Right.
He didn't just bless me, though.
He rebuilt me.
He rebuilt me.
(08:59):
So if you can understand thatsometimes God God has you in
that waiting season right now,but you trust in that God's
hands are still on you, I wantyou to drop a like in the chat,
drop a heart in the chat.
Ok, let's keep this moving withchapter six.
(09:20):
Now.
Chapter six is entitledstanding in my peace at all
costs.
Standing in my peace at allcosts.
(09:40):
Now y'all, this chapter, thischapter standing in my piece at
all costs.
Oh, my goodness, the day I shutthe door to chaos.
There was a time when I thoughtbeing Christ-like meant being
(10:01):
constantly available.
I gave my ear to everybodycrybabies, chaos makers and
chronic complainers.
I let folks dump, dump, dump,while I prayed, prayed and
prayed.
And you know what y'all?
I still kind of do some of thistoday.
I'm still a little guilty of it, but I'm learning now and as I
(10:23):
go back and I read it, I'mreminding myself okay, because
God said daughter, that is notministry, that is manipulation.
You are not their trash can,you are my temple.
That is what God told me.
And that day I took my earsback and, like I said, I still
(10:46):
have some days where I fallshort and I give people my ear.
They don't deserve it.
But baby, no, no, no, no, no, Iam not their trash can, I am
his temple.
That day I put my peace on apedestal and I dared anyone to
come for it without spiritualclearance.
(11:08):
This chapter is for the oneswho's been used as emotional
dumpsters, the ones who thoughtbeing saved meant say yes to
everybody with a sad story, theones who used to answer calls
that disrupted their calling.
You could be sitting down,doing something, being in motion
, being into your call and doingwhat you're supposed to do and
(11:30):
then you will get that, thatphone call that throw you all
the way off.
You will get that text messagethat distracts you.
You'll get that person callingyou with their boo-hoos and
their cries and I just needsomebody to talk to.
That is the trick of the enemy.
You are not their trash can.
Okay, I used to say yes.
Out of guilt the Lord said stoplying with your yes, stop lying
(11:54):
with your yes, start honoringme with your no.
Okay, I had to learn.
Being available to everybodymade me unavailable to God.
I wasn't called to beeverybody's therapist, that
wasn't my calling.
I wasn't called to be anintercessor that was not my call
.
And I wasn't called to be theadvice hotline.
(12:23):
Some of y'all need to deletethose contacts, not just clear
the notifications, because peace, peace, peace, peace is a
spiritual assignment.
And, baby, I'm not guardingmine like it's just, you know, a
little piece of paper.
(12:44):
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm guarding mine like FortStewart, amen, okay.
So if you are tired of beingeverybody's trash, can type my
peace is prophetic.
If you reclaimed your quiet,your peace is your pulpit, and
not everybody gets a seat atthat.
Ok.
So take this moment to reflectthat sometimes it's OK to say no
(13:13):
, it's OK, god will give youthat, god will give you that,
god will give you that.
No, he will say okay, no, thatthat's what you're supposed to
say.
If they if they want peace,they want guidance, they want
all that they got the same Godyou got.
And if they don't that's whattherapists are for okay.
So we're gonna do a lightninground real fast, short, short
(13:37):
questions with real answers, andthis is where y'all speak up in
the chat or shout back on yourscreen.
I know I have a listener that'stuning in right now, but I'm
not sure she wants to come onscreen.
Do you want to come on screen?
(13:58):
Yes, no, myra, do you want tocome on screen?
Do this or this?
Well, I think, I think you wantto.
(14:27):
I'll bring you up.
Hey, myra.
Hi, I didn't know if you wantto come on or not, but I
couldn't understand what youwere saying, so I'm gonna bring
your screen so for you.
For those who don't know, myrajust dropped the pre-orders for
her book today from the 21 DayAuthor Boot Camp, and her book
is called Finding Love at 70.
This is her first solo projectunder the Listen Listen brand.
So I'm happy to have Myra heretoday because she's working hard
(14:50):
, supposed to be doing herassignment, but she decided to
take a break.
Come on in, I appreciate you.
So do you mind doing thelightning round with me since
you're here, myra?
That's why I ask you a shortquestion and you get like 30
seconds to answer it, okay.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I'll try.
Oh yeah, it's not going to benone crazy.
The first one is what's the yesyou gave out of guilt that you
need to take back?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
The first one is what's the yes you gave out of
guilt that you need to take backwhen?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I gave my money away, girl.
I think we all got them.
I think we all got them, yeses,yes, and I should have said no.
You should have said no.
You should have said no.
Ooh, child, you know thatperson might be watching.
You still don't care, do you?
You want your money back?
Hey, whoever borrows money fromMama Myra, please give her her
(15:45):
money back.
Okay, okay, who did you have togrieve before the funeral
Meaning, before they even died?
Who did you have to grieve thatloss of somebody?
To give you an example, madswas my mother, right, because
(16:08):
she was lost to drug and alcoholaddiction, you know, and I
never got her back from that.
So I just had to grieve thefact that I didn't have a mama
in my life.
You know, that was a grief forme.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I guess you would say my friend Virginia, because I
didn't.
I mean, I saw her every now andthen but we didn't keep really
in touch.
And then when she diedunexpectedly, it just it really
hurt me and I couldn't get toher funeral, and that you know,
(16:43):
to say goodbye.
That really hurt.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, I had a situation like that with my
friend too.
My friend was Sherelle In thebook Mountains.
Her name was Sherelle, but itwas a different name in real
life.
But you know, for privacy Idon't really say her name
Buterelle but it was a differentname in real life.
But for privacy I don't reallysay her name, but it was kind of
the same.
We were estranged for a while,maybe about a year before she
(17:10):
passed.
We finally reconnected and sheapologized to me for some things
that she'd done that you readabout in mountains.
And we were right just aboutgetting a little close.
I was going to see her mom, whopassed away right after her, in
the nursing home and everything.
And next thing, you know, sheended up dying from kidney
failure, my best friend.
She was only 30 years old andshe left two kids.
(17:32):
So you know, that was somethingfor me.
That was something for me aswell, so I can definitely relate
to that.
The next question what did Godshow you in the waiting room
that changed how you worship himtoday?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That I can always rely on him first instead of
somebody else else, instead ofwaiting on somebody else to help
or you know, or just be therefor me, because I know he's
going to be there.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Mine was pretty much the same.
I had a codependency Not reallya codependency, but I just I
always felt like I had to havefriends, I had to have friends
yeah.
I had to have somebody to bethere for me.
You know, and I'm realizingmore and more every day, that a
lot of times friendships comewith motives, you know, and
(18:31):
that's okay, I don't mind beingyou, but I'm not going to be you
.
Yeah, but I'm not going to usethe enemy.
Yeah, because we're all here tobe a help or a service to
somebody.
But if that's not reciprocatedor appreciated and it's only a
benefit from it, then that's notreally a friend.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Here's another one.
Mama Myra, what lie did youbelieve about yourself before
God interrupted it with thetruth?
Basically, what's theinsecurity that you had about
yourself before God showed youthat that wasn't true?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Insecurity, insecurity, I don't know, did I
think I could do it all bymyself and I can't?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
that's a good one, because you felt like I really
tried to do it by myself and youknow what I'm working on that
now, because I, I, I feel like Ijust I just don't want to
bother nobody, or I feel likeain't nobody gonna do it like me
, or yeah I've had so many timeswhere I've had reached out to
(19:53):
people and they sabotage onpurpose because they don't want
to see you excel.
So it's like you see, I'm scaredto hire a graphic designer
because they're not going to doit to the to the level that I
need it to be done, or if theydo, they'll try to sabotage me.
So it's like I do it by myself,because if something is wrong, I
(20:16):
don't have nobody to blame, butto trust.
Oh, they did that and it causedconfusion, so I'd just rather
try to do it by myself, but Ineed to hone in on that and
start trusting people more, andthat's something that I'm trying
to work on today.
So that's a great one, mike.
What's your new rule for peace?
(20:37):
For who?
Peace, peace.
What's your new rule for peace?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Ooh, I don't have one right now, just sitting and
listening to music or reading,just you know, just be by myself
, no, talking to nobody, becausemost time they take it the
(21:10):
wrong way.
And so I just rather just behere in my room like I am by
myself, and be peaceful, and youknow, just doing me.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, and that's another thing that I always had,
that now I'll tell you thatright now I know how to get to
myself, baby and turn that phoneoff and you won't baby, you
won't reach me.
But I think my new one now iswhat I said earlier today, when
I said I got to stop lying withmy yes and start honoring God
with my no.
(21:45):
Because, like I said, the trickof the enemy will come.
You can be in the middle oftrying to, like you're doing
right now, complete yourassignment or do things, and
then that phone will ring.
Somebody called with some badnews, or they need some help, or
they need this and they needthat, or they'll call with an
argument, try to start someconfusion and all it leads to is
(22:06):
you being distracted from yourgoal.
You're distracted from what Godcalled you to do.
That's basically what chapter 6was really about.
It was really about justreclaiming your peace,
reclaiming your time andfocusing on what God tells you
(22:26):
to do.
You did good with the lightninground.
You made me think but then it'sgood though, because once you
think and you say those thingsout loud, yeah, you remember and
it puts you back intoperspective of what god wants
(22:49):
you to do, like yeah like, like,like.
It don't come to mind until youhave to think about it.
He'd be like what is this?
You know what I'm saying?
What is this?
What is this?
Now, you can say it out loud.
You can put it out into theworld for God to bless it.
You get what I'm saying.
Have you got a chance to readthis book yet?
I'm reading it now.
(23:16):
Once you'm reading it, now okay,okay, so once you once you
finish reading it, because it'snot a lot and I know you know
writing your own book amen butonce you and you get a chance to
kind of go through it.
I want you to go through it andI really want you to come back
to this live.
It's going to be on my page,Mama Myra, and just give your
take on chapters four through 16.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
All right, mama Myra, I'm going to drop you back down
because I'm about to get readyand wrap this up.
Okay, but it was a pleasure.
Thank you.
You know you always comethrough.
Mama Myra, you're my MVP for mybook club.
I got to do something specialfor you.
I love you so much and Iappreciate you for always coming
in.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I appreciate you too.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yes, ma'am, yes ma'am , we got to have each other back
.
That's what it's about.
That's what it's about.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yes, so that was Myra Cook Her book.
I want y'all to go get it rightnow.
Okay, to go get it right now.
Okay, I want y'all to emailMyraCook1951 at gmailcom
Pre-order her book.
It's $24.99.
It's under the Listen Lindapublishing brand.
It comes out very, very soonand the book is a novella.
(24:25):
It's a romance novella calledFinding Love After 70.
I read it already.
Of course I did because I'm thepublisher, and when I say it is
phenomenal, it really is agreat book.
If you have not seen the trailer, go to my Facebook page, go to
my Instagram page, go to myLinkedIn page, just on all three
of those pages, okay, and itwill soon be on my website, so
(24:47):
you guys can see that and clickon the link and email her at
Myra Cook at I mean Myra Cook1951 at Gmail dot com to place
your order for her book.
Ok, I'm going to go ahead andwrap up and do my call to action
, because we walk through motherwounds, waiting seasons and
(25:12):
peace protection, and I thankeveryone who is catching the
replay, who's watching tonight,who's listening on iHeartRadio,
who's listening on Pandora,who's listening on Spotify,
who's listening on Player FM inall 27 countries that we are
streaming in right now,worldwide.
Thank you, thank you.
(25:33):
Thank you for constantlyshowing up and showing out for
me.
I truly appreciate you and Ithank you.
And let me tell you this youare not behind, you are not
forgotten, you are notdisqualified.
You are becoming Okay, you arebecoming so.
If this has blessed you, sharethis live tag somebody.
(25:58):
If you don't have the book, theebook is available on Amazon for
$9.99.
It's called If I Were to Writea Book in the Bible, okay, and
it basically goes through allthe books that I've written and
it takes those books, itsummarizes them and then it's in
actual scripture format, ok,actual Bible scripture format.
(26:22):
So reread the chapters fourthrough six this week and let
them minister to you again.
And if you're feeling like youhave a book in you just know the
anthology is still open you canwrite your chapter too, okay,
so all you have to do is contactme on Facebook messenger I live
(26:43):
there, okay, and let's get yourstory out there, because if I
could write a book in the Bible,so can you, okay.
God, thank you for the heartsthat were touched tonight.
Thank you for the women who arefinally letting go, sitting
(27:05):
still and standing in peace.
Lord, god, we ask you to coverevery testimony that was stirred
up tonight, that stirred uptoday, that stirred up this
afternoon, this evening orwhenever the sound of my voice,
the people who are listening tothe sound of my voice, are
hearing this podcast.
Okay, we ask that you coverevery testimony that was stirred
(27:26):
up tonight.
Let this not just be a lie.
We declare it's a lifting Amen.
Thank you for choosing us, evenwhen we were cracked, crushed
or confused.
Lord God, we honor you and wegive it all back to you in
Jesus' mighty name.
(27:46):
Amen.
That is going to conclude theListen Linda Book Club live
tonight.
Amen Again.
Thank you so much, janae Ray,for coming in.
Please catch this replay ofthis.
(28:07):
If you have not grabbed the if Iwere to write a book in the
Bible, please do so.
Okay, it's on Amazon.
You can purchase it.
The paperback is $19.99 and theebook is $9.99.
It's also available on audiobook, okay.
So if you want to get the audiobook, you can also purchase it
(28:28):
on Amazon.
If you would like to join theif I were to write a book in the
Bible anthology, I have thatcoming out.
I am still taking submissionsfor that, so please contact me
if you're interested in takingyour story and turn it into a
book in the Bible.
Okay, that's all folks.
That's all I get.
Oh, and before I leave, Idefinitely, definitely,
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Sis, have you ever survived something that was
supposed to take you out?
Sis, have you ever survivedsomething that was supposed to
take you out?
Have you walked throughsomething so heavy, so painful,
that you didn't even recognizeyourself after?
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Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!
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