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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, hey, y'all.
Listen, linda.
Welcome to another episode ofthe Listen Linda Book Club Live.
It's your girl, jacqueline Cox,and I'm so glad you're here
with me tonight.
You could have been anywhere inthe world, but you are right
here and I appreciate you.
Now, tonight we got a treat.
I am sitting down with noneother than Carolyn Coleman.
(01:37):
The author of the Stethoscope isfor more than listening.
She's a nurse, a leader and apowerhouse voice in her
community.
She's out here serving people,both in scrubs and with her pen,
and if you know me, you knowthat's my kind of people Heart,
(01:58):
hustle and purpose all wrappedin one.
And y'all, she do not stopthere, okay.
She's also the host of theglobal podcast, gentry's Journey
, where she's had conversationswith guests from all over the
world that have brought newperspective and deep insights.
She's truly a voice thatbridges story and healing
(02:21):
together.
So grab your tea, your snack andyour journal, because you're
going to want to take some notestonight, honey.
Okay, we're going to talk abouther book, her journey, and
we're going to talk about thecalling God's placed on her life
.
But y'all know, before we start, we got to give it to him, we
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got to give him his time.
Okay, so let's bow our headsand pray.
Father God, we just thank youfor tonight.
Thank you for waking us up, forgiving us breath in our bodies
and for the opportunity toconnect, even virtually.
Lord God, bless Carolyn for thework she's doing both on the
page and in her community.
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Lord God, and for the workshe's doing both on the page and
in her community.
Lord God, let her words tonightinspire someone to push through
, to dream again and to use thegift for your glory.
We ask that you cover thisconversation, lord God, that it
uplifts, encourages and plantsseeds in every listener's heart
under the sound of our voices.
Jesus, mighty name, amen, amen,let's get into it, girl.
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So, for those who may bemeeting you for the first time
tonight, carolyn, who is CarolynColeman in your own, words
Carolyn Coleman.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I am Carolyn Coleman.
I am a child of God.
I am a wife, a mother, adaughter, a sister, cousin.
I'm a good friend.
I'm a good friend.
So that's a little bit about me.
(04:10):
Professionally, I am a nurse,I'm a case manager and I have
been in nursing more than 40years.
So that is my calling.
It was not me intentionallygoing into nursing just to do
something.
I was led into nursing and I'mthankful for it.
I don't have any regrets aboutthat at all.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Absolutely,
absolutely.
Now I love your title.
The stethoscope is for morethan listening.
Tell the story behind that.
Where did that idea actuallycome from, for you to write that
book?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well, some days at
work, Working with patients and
your co-workers and other healthcare professionals that are out
there, some things are justsaid and done.
That is just unbelievable.
And so I used to say, notreally, I guess I spoke it into
existence.
(04:51):
I would say, oh, I'm going towrite a story about this, I'm
going to write a book about that, because it's unbelievable,
it's unbelievable.
And I would walk around severalyears later and saying, who
wants the first chapter?
I'll do the first chapter.
Who wants chapter three?
Who wants chapter four?
I said, because we have to putsome of this on paper.
(05:13):
And it was in jest, I promiseyou, it was in jest, but I did
want to write.
Never really would have thoughtI would write about nursing or
health care.
And I ran into a physician thatwe used to work closely
together and I was telling himthat I was a published author
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and I was thinking of writingsomething about health care.
I said, but I don't wantanybody coming for me, I don't
want that smoke.
And he was like, put fiction onthe book and write.
So I was like see, that's whyyou, my mentor, that's why, that
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is why Fiction it is.
And there started thestethoscope is for more than
listening.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Absolutely Now.
You've had a career in nursing,a profession that takes
compassion, discipline and grit.
How has your time as a nurseshaped the way you write and
tell your story?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well, with the
stethoscope.
I hate to say it is what it is,but there are so many things I
have seen and I have experienced, or someone else has
experienced, and they came backand told me what the deal was
and I'll be like, oh, I would be, I am, I am, you know, quite
(06:36):
silly by nature.
I really am.
You know.
You have to laugh to keep fromcrying some days and some days
you just have to laugh it off.
So just some of the things thatI have seen and I have been a
part of.
Some of it's heartbreaking.
Now, you know, nursing is notcomical, but some of the things
people do, you're like I'm notbelieving this, you know, I'm
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just not, you know, and somepeople, you know you hold their
hand as they're transitioning.
So you know it's not all funand games.
You know it's very, it's veryheart wrenching.
You know it's very deep and notknowing.
Being especially new in nursing,growing up in church, and you
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know about your faith, you knowabout your belief system, but to
have to put it into practice,yeah, and you know, everybody
and I have worked in umreligious facilities where their
um, their philosophy was umBaptist or their philosophy, you
know, was Catholicism, so it'snot that prayer is unheard of in
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those places, because prayerwould come across the intercom
system every morning.
We had access to chaplains orwe had access to some of the
sisters or the nuns or thechaplains in the different
facilities.
So we had access and we hadbackup.
But you're there before theycome Because it's your patient.
(08:10):
You know about what's going onwith your patient better than
anyone and you can't just walkout a lot of times because they
really don't want to be alone.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Right.
So yeah, I can.
And that was getting to my nextquestion.
I'm glad you kind of kind ofglided us right on into the next
question because in your bookyou blend real experiences with
powerful lessons.
Was there one patient encounteror life moment that you knew
had to be in there, no matterwhat?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
no matter what.
Well, I think they all had tobe in there because those are
the ones that surfaced as I waswriting and I'll be like oh, I
forgot about this one.
So the first time I ever reallyexperienced death and sitting
with someone who wastransitioning was very, it was
very powerful, but theatmosphere in which we sat as he
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was transitioning wasmeaningful.
It gave me purpose.
You know that we all know deathis imminent I mean with all of
us.
But to be there with him andfor him and to hold his hand as
he transitioned, because the daybefore we coded him he was very
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, very sick.
So we had to do a lot ofemergency care.
And when he woke up he lookedat me room full of people Will
you take care of my things?
I mean, he looked and I waslike I just could speak and I
went.
You know I will, you know Iwill.
So it's not that he did notrealize what was going on.
(09:59):
He certainly was very wellaware me, was very well aware.
It just took me, off guard,with everyone in the room, for
him to look at me and say willyou take care of my things?
And I went, absolutely.
And I did because he didn'thave really any family members
that were coming through.
I think he lived several milesaway, maybe a couple of counties
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over from the facility, soeverybody can't drive up every
day or can't afford to stay withtheir loved ones.
Some people are willing butthey're just not able.
So I did that for him.
I sat with him as hetransitioned and it was the next
day in which that happened anda lot of times you wonder, you
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know, why me?
Why am I here?
Why am I in this situation?
Why am I present for?
But then you say, why not me?
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
absolutely and also,
um, kind of stepping away from
that for a second, because Idefinitely want to mention that
you are very active in yourcommunity and you even ran for
political office a couple times.
How do you balance servicewriting and your professional
(11:18):
life without burning out?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
well, one thing I
don't know if we do it with that
, like what well, I mean, you dowith the, the project that's at
hand, the one that you know youhave to prior to ride.
So you do it with, with what isat hand, what has the shortest
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timeframe, what needs to be donenow?
So now I didn't just want torun for office.
You know, the Lord told me torun for office and I went.
I'm the nurse.
No, you know, nurses don't needto be doing this.
You know, I give, I comfortpeople at the bedside, take care
of people.
I do all this.
(12:06):
And then I went, not your willbut not my will, but let your
will be done.
I said, because if you bring meto it, you got to bring me
through it.
And so I just went with thatand it's a total of three times,
but it was.
It was unsuccessful to a degree,meaning I did not win but I did
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not lose.
And because you gain so muchwhen you are with the public and
you are getting to know them,they're getting to know you, you
gain a lot.
And it is not all negative.
It is really pretty good whenpeople find out that they can
talk to you that you are a realperson and they don't mind
engaging you.
And that still happens to thisday.
(12:54):
I still get phone calls or whensomeone sees me, they ask me
questions and I just do my bestto guide them in the correct
direction.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Absolutely.
And another thing I want topoint out to your perspective on
that is that if I see somebodywho ran you know, a facility,
council person or whatever in mydistrict, even though they
didn't win, to see that theyeven took the time because
that's money coming out of yourown pocket, your own sponsorship
and to see that you ranmultiple times, means that you
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actually care about what goes onin the community.
You actually care about theconstituents.
So, whether you win or lose,the fact that you even cared
enough to even run to even makeit be known that, yes, I'm here,
I care about my community andwhat goes on, I'm paying
attention, that means a lot tothe constituency.
I agree, I've heard soabsolutely, you definitely gain.
(13:49):
You know, if you didn't gainanything, you gain respect.
Because I'm gonna tell yousomething you lost, but you
didn't lose that many honey,because I was watching on my
email all the way from chicago Istill saw that you, um, you
didn't lose that much honey.
So, um, that says a lot, um towho you are.
And you know because you, you,you, you are not just, you are a
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brand, you are a household name, not even just in your
community, but globally, becauseand that's what I want to kind
of hone in on now is your globalpodcast, gentry's Journey,
because you've had guests fromall walks of life.
How has having thoseconversations opened your eyes
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or shifted your perspective oncertain topics?
And even though you're on highhaters right now, we should be
excited for a return.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, we are excited
about a return, but it shapes
you because we're all, believeit or not, in my humble opinion
are in our own little silo.
We are all in our own silos andunless we have to come out
spread our wings and do somethings, you're still going to be
(15:03):
in that silo.
You're just protecting your,your, your area, that's all you
know.
But once you start talking withpeople and their story seems
interesting and meeting people,you know, mike, the gentleman
that I interview that is fromJapan, still lives in Japan.
(15:26):
His roots are here in are inChicago, and then I posted
something and he said I haverelatives in your city and I was
like, wow, you know, talk aboutgoing 360.
So and he's an author and hehas embraced his culture, his
biracial culture, and you canjust see it all over him.
(15:50):
He embraces both sides of hisculture equally.
To hear him speak Now, youwouldn't think he's from Japan,
but to see him you will say yes,he is from Japan.
And so you just grow by seeingwhat other people are doing and
(16:10):
you love to see them do it well.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Absolutely,
absolutely.
Now let's talk legacy.
What do you want readers towalk away with after they finish
reading your book?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Well, I have several,
but we're talking about the
stethoscope.
Just know that you can't be astuffed shirt wherever you go.
Someone told me the other dayyou're always grinning and I
said, and I will, I willcontinue to grin, because if I
can't kiki and kaka, what am Idoing here?
(16:46):
I mean, why should I be a stiffshirt Because you are one?
Why can't I relax and have fun?
That may be what is helping meto relieve my pressure.
Okay, Because we all need anoutlet somewhere.
I'm not just grinninginappropriately.
It's funny to me.
(17:07):
It's funny, you know, and justbecause you don't think it's
funny, that's maybe your loss.
It's definitely not mine.
So you have to find a way torelax and enjoy the ride.
And writing is very catharticfor me and it made me think of
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some things I had forgottenabout when I was reading, when I
was writing the stethoscopist,for more than learning, for
listening, I'm sorry, you know,because you learn from each
person.
You learn either that they'renot concerned about you nor
themselves.
So where do you think you fitin the equation?
(17:49):
Okay, and I've been in it forso long.
It used to be a time patientscame in around the holidays
because their family was goingto be having parties and Nana
didn't need to be present.
Or maybe they didn't need tosee about Nana during the
parties that they were going tobe having.
(18:09):
And I was like, are you kiddingme?
You know, you don't say it outloud in your head.
Are you kidding me?
Nana can't enjoy the partyeither.
You know.
So that is what it is or that'swhat it was.
You know, I don't think ithappens as much now, but another
co-worker of mine, she said Ithought that was just a joke
that they came in and put a manfor the holiday.
(18:32):
I said so did I.
And we're from two totallydifferent backgrounds.
So we all had heard the storiesbut we didn't believe the story
.
And then you have the patientthat doesn't want anyone Family,
friend, neighbor, they don'twant to be bothered with anyone.
They don't really want to bebothered with the nurses, but
(18:53):
they still get admitted just tocome in and start something.
And you're like you should staythe hell.
Why'd you come?
Because they're not sick.
If you're coming in with thattype attitude, you are not sick
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Attention.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
So you know, you just
have to have an open mind.
I have learned to have an openmind about people.
You can't case them.
You just can't case themabsolutely.
In some situations where Ithought that was the wife, okay,
so I have put my foot in mymouth more than I care.
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I've eaten more shoe leatherthan I care to taste.
But when you're presentingthese people as your spouse, why
are you putting us in themiddle of this?
When the real spouse come in,then you know we got to wrestle
somebody out of the room becauseyou know it's going to be some
pulling of hair.
(19:59):
It's going to be people bringof hair.
It's going to be.
People bring it to the hospital.
They do not leave it at home.
Oh trust me.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I know, girl, I got
stories to share.
That's why when stuff happenswith my family, I don't even go
no more.
I just say my prayers from thehouse, because when I tell you,
baby, that Smith family and thatevery family ain't nothing to
play with, I tell people all thetime Carolyn, you want to watch
(20:27):
some real live Madea movies.
You come to anything dealingwith my family, any type of
gathering.
You're going to get all typesof stuff happening there and I
don't want to have no parts ofit, no Stories.
I can only write about childbecause if I say it on here
they're gonna be all in my inbox.
You know what you telling thefamily business.
(20:48):
I'm just not gonna say no.
No, before we uh finish thisconversation, I have to take a
break to get a word from oursponsor.
It's going to be me today, butit's going to be other sponsors
in the future, so right now wetake like a minute or 14 seconds
and we'll be back with more ofCarolyn Coleman right after this
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Speaker 4 (21:15):
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Speaker 2 (22:19):
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okay.
So now we are back with CarolynColeman, aka Gentry, my girl.
Um, you've been featured inlisten.
Well, you've been featuring alot of Listen Linda magazines
because you are a contributingwriter, but you have also been
featured in this month's editionof Listen Linda magazines 25
(24:06):
awesome authors.
How has connecting with otherauthors and sharing your work on
platforms like this helped yougrow as a writer?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
like this help you
grow as a writer.
Some people are just very open,or this is the first time
they're telling a story that'snear and dear to their heart,
something that has beenbasically a secret or not spoken
about, especially in theanthologies, especially in the
anthologies, and so it helps meto realize there's some very
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brave women out here.
They're very brave.
They are willing to just pourtheir truly, their heart out on
pages and for the world to readand hopefully, to learn and to
grow.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Absolutely so.
We have a comment from AudreyAnn Moses saying I love hearing
Nurse Carolyn's story.
Yes, we do, girl, don't we?
I got all her books here.
I was trying to find my stuffto go look for before we got on
but I came in the house too lateand I couldn't find them.
But just know, she gave me asigned copy so I definitely got
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one.
Um been been had for a fewyears now, maybe about two,
three years now I've had thisbook.
So, um, it's a great, greatstory.
We all love hearing umCarolyn's stories.
And speaking of what's next foryou, so do you have any new
books, new projects or goalsthat you're working toward?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I don't, I mean, I do
, I do.
I have some things that are onthe shelf at this point in time,
um, so I have several things afriend and I are going to um
correct um, we've alreadystarted the process, but we kind
of put it out for a minutebecause we're not in a hurry to
(26:03):
get it done.
And then I'm still working on acouple of things Advice, wisdom
moments with my parents and um.
And then left, left is umfiction, um, the others are, um,
(26:25):
I think the one I'm going toco-author.
It is fiction as well, uh, butI love the story.
And when she sent it to me, uh,she said what can I do with
this?
Oh, we can go in so manydirections.
We can do a lot with this.
So, and then the nonfiction,the wisdom moments from my
parents.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So that sounds like
it's going to be very, very
interesting.
I cannot wait.
You already know I'm ready,especially for that.
No, I'm ready, I'll be behindthe scenes.
Carolyn will be giving me somelittle snippets.
I get first dibs.
That's what happens when youare friends with authors they
give you a chance to art read.
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It's just an amazing, amazingexperience.
I love being a writer.
Just for those perks.
Right there, you get first dibson stuff.
So, all right, Carolyn, we'regoing to have a little fun.
Okay, before we wrap up.
Okay, when it comes to mind.
No explaining, no thinking toohard.
You ready?
Okay, All right.
So this is called the lightninground, and I just started this
(27:29):
with the 25 awesome options, butI think I'm going to keep it
going because it's fun.
So, first thing, one in personor night out.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Oh, night out.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Favorite comfort food
Ice cream.
The last book that you readthat made you cry.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I think it was the
Waiting Room, Volume 1.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Beach Vacation or
Mountain Retreat.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Uh-uh, we'd be going
to the beach.
No, we ain't climbing nothing.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
If you could have
dinner with any historical
figure, who would it be?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Dinner.
Yeah, oh yeah.
You know, former PresidentBarack Obama, we need to have a
conversation.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Amen.
Sweet tea or lemonade.
Sweet tea Scripture you lean onthe most.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
It's several and I'm
going to paraphrase.
Paraphrase Um oh, it's so many,but I'm going to paraphrase.
He will never leave me, norforsake me.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Amen, amen.
And last one, one word todescribe your style.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Uh, it's eclectic.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, that was a good
one right there, okay, carolyn.
Well, thank you for blessing ustonight with your wisdom, your
joy, your testimony and, most ofall, your personality.
I truly, truly love you, mydear friend.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
If you all have not
already grabbed the stethoscope
is for more than listening, godo that.
Ok, you really, really reallywant to support this queen
because she's walking herpurpose out loud.
And if you have not yet checkedout her podcast Gentry's
Journey, even though she on ashort break, those past episodes
(29:37):
are gold and they are full ofeye-opening conversations.
So you can catch the replay oftonight's interview on all major
platforms.
But you can also catch Gentry'sJourney on all major platforms.
She is global now in 10countries.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
It's several.
I looked at the stats a fewweeks ago.
It's global now in 10 countries.
It's several.
I looked at the stats a fewweeks ago.
It's several.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
So China, Japan yes.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yes, absolutely
Absolutely, and you can catch
her on iHeartRadio, spotify,pandora, audible, amazon Music,
linkedin, youtube and, of course, facebook for a plethora of
others.
Okay, and remember, yourstories matters.
Somebody's waiting on the otherside of your obedience, so
until next time, listen.
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Okay, let's close out in prayer.
Carolyn, would you close us outin prayer?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yes, heavenly Father,
lord, god, we just thank you
for every opportunity that yougive us.
Lord, god, lord, we ask you tobe with our sick and bereaved
family members and friends.
Give them strength, give thempeace, lord God, that peace that
surpasses all understanding.
Lord, we just thank you forlistening to her platform.
(31:00):
We thank you for Audrey Ann andanyone else who listens live or
listens later.
Lord God, let them be blessed,let them realize that they have
a father who can Lord these andother things back in your son
Jesus' name, amen.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Amen, amen.
And if you want to grab thatbook, don't go to Amazon.
Go right to wwwcpwbookshelfcomfor that book and a plethora of
other books that my friendCarolyn Gentry Coleman has.
Okay, if you don't, if youdidn't hear me, I know you see
it right there at the bottom ofthe screen wwwcpwbookshelfcom
(31:42):
for more information and how youcan contact Carolyn Coleman.
All right, guys.
Well, that's it.
This wraps up another editionof Listen, learn, the Book Club
Live.
I'm your host, dr JacquelineCox.
This is my guest and my dear.
I'm your host, dr JacquelineCox.
This is my guest and my dear,dear, dear friend and my kiki
buddy, carolyn Coleman.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
We out yeah, rule,
baby, we'll see you next time to
(32:42):
wash away until the sun comesout and shines again.
Smile for me, smile for me Onall those rainy days, bring your
lifetime, try to wash awayuntil the sun shines and I see
your face, smile at me, smile.