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Speaker 1 (00:13):
They question when no
man, that ain't no fit for me.
Do you pray, cause I pray?
You want kids, I want eight.
Are you faithful?
Oh wait, tell me, can you senda ring?
You a king, I'm a queen.
We require certain things, andthat's what I pray for.
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So that's what I wait for.
Dear God, come when you'resinning, I'm gon' be ready.
Dear God, you do this for me.
I won't forget it.
Sinning, I'm gonna be ready.
Dear God, you do this for me, Iwon't forget it.
My heart, I've been through somuch and I just wanna feel your
love for once.
And, dear God, I hope he'shappy Already here, but if
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you're sinning I know he is, Iknow he will.
Dear God, that's what I prayfor.
So that's what I wait for, andI vow to be everything you need
Share my life with you, on theright, with you, and I promise
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to support all your dreams.
But I gotta know that you weremade for me.
Do you pray, cause I pray?
You want kids, I want eight.
Are you faithful?
Always Tell me, can you send aring?
You a king, I'm a queen.
We require certain things, andthat's what I pray for.
So that's what I wait for,that's what I pray for.
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That's what I wait, waiting for.
That's what I'm waiting for,dear God.
I'm waiting for you to send me.
That's what I'm waiting for.
That's what I'm waiting for,dear God.
I'm waiting for you to send me.
I won't be ready.
Dear God, you do this for me.
I won't forget it.
My heart has been through somuch and I just wanna feel true
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love for once.
And, dear God, I hope he'shappy, already healed.
He's kissing me.
I know he is.
I know he will.
Dear God, dear God, that's whatI pray for, so that's what I
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wait for.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
In the name of Jesus,
we thank you so much for this
day that we've never seen before.
Thank you for this new month.
Thank you for life, health,strength, the use of our limbs,
god those things we take forgranted.
We're so grateful andappreciative.
We thank you now for genuineconnections and friendship.
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We thank you for beautifulconversations and camaraderie
among ladies and men who areworking on their crafts and
becoming better versions ofthemselves.
God, we ask you, in the name ofJesus, that you would touch
this broadcast.
Let every word that is said beedifying, uplifting, building
your kingdom for your glory.
We ask that you cancel anyglitches, any issues, right now.
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In your name, oh God, we thankyou in advance for the victory
that you'll get from thisconversation, and it's in your
name we pray.
Amen, amen, amen.
I am excited about thisquestion anyway because, just in
case someone just logged on,they may not know who is
Jacqueline Cox.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Jacqueline Cox is a
woman of God, a child of God.
I am a motivator, I amdetermined, I am loved, I am
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loving, I'm nurturing, I amcreative, I'm talented, I'm
beautiful.
I'm torn, I'm broken, I'm fixed, I'm healed, I'm hurt, I am
emotional.
I am a poet, a writer, a loverof music.
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I am a mother, a wife, a sister, a friend.
I'm loyal to default.
I am learning, I'm growing.
I am learning, I'm growing, Iam smart.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I'm Jacqueline Cox
that you, again, just was able
to just say it withouthesitation, without apology.
It's okay to own who you are.
We were beautifully andwonderfully made and we are
always taught.
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You got to be so meek andhumble and in the background,
but it's okay to be bold and sayI am beautiful, I am me, I am
an author, everything that youare and you own it.
I often say I refuse to givethe grave any of my potential
and I love that you're more thanjust one dimensional.
There's so many sides of youand that's a beautiful thing,
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because when this life is over,it's over.
We transition over to the otherside, but while we're here,
let's make the best of the timethat we have.
So what is your why?
What is your why when it comesto the things that you're doing
with the Bucer author?
What is your why?
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Who are you trying to reach?
What is your goal?
What is your why?
My goal is to be better than Iwas yesterday.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
My goal is to, when I
leave this earthly realm and I
make it to the gate, I just makeit up there.
I just want to be, at least beat the gate, at least make it
that far, at least be at thegate, at least make it that far.
My why is when God asked mewhat did you do with what I gave
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you?
I can tell him I left no crumbs.
I can tell him I did everythingyou asked me to do, to the best
of my ability.
I did everything that I wassupposed to do on this earth and
I left a legacy for my childrento follow.
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I left a legacy for generationsto come to follow, to look and
say you know what?
My, my mom, my grandma, mygreat grandma, she did this and
and it shows, and it'sdocumented, and it's because,
once it's all over the worldwide web, it ain't going nowhere
.
And I want my kids and anybodythat comes after me to look and
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say it's nothing that I'mdisgraced about, it's nothing
that shamed me about my mom andwhatever shamed her.
She wrote about it, she wastransparent about it, she owned
it, she lived in her truth andshe was not apolog, wrote about
it, she was transparent about it, she owned it, she lived in her
truth and she was notapologizing for it.
We use that word unapologetic somuch it's become the new thing
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to say unapologetic I'm justunapologetic.
But in all actuality, are youLike?
Are you?
Are you really living thattruth?
Are you really that transparentwith what's really going on
with you?
Are you really owning who youare as a person?
And if you are, what are youdoing to fix those things?
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So me, I own everything aboutwho I am.
I'm not apologizing for it, butwhat I will do is I will keep my
faith in that word and what mypastor calls the Facebook, which
is the Bible, my faith in thatbook, and I just let God guide
me in the way that I aminterpreting it, way that I am
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interpreting it.
You know the way that I see himand I find peace in what he
tells me through the word.
That's my why.
My why is, when I get up there,I want God to know that I used
every drop of that oil.
I didn't.
I never left no stone unturnedand I did what I was supposed to
do with the time that he gaveme.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's awesome,
that's beautiful.
That needs to be expressed morebecause, like I was saying
before people we're taught todumb ourselves down so much but
become everything that you canbecome.
But that is a great segue intomy next question.
When you wrote the bookMountains, what was your primary
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emotion while you were writingthat book?
What were you feeling when youwrote that particular body of
work?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You know what, with
Mountains, I didn't have one
emotion.
Mountains was based on my life,that's my life.
Everything in that book is whathappened to me in my life for
real.
Only thing that's changed isthe names of the people in the
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book, and you know that's you.
You know to keep theiridentities, their privacy,
protected.
Um, however, it took me yearsof therapy to get through those
things and so to go back andwrite it.
I thought it was going to beeasier than it really was, and
it actually led me right backinto therapy and deep counsel
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from my pastor and I.
Actually, I had mentalbreakdowns writing that book.
There was a lot of things thathappened, a lot of triggering
and trauma that I went throughwith writing that book, and I
still didn't really unpack theway I feel like I could have.
There was a lot for me to beable to write that book.
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So it was not just, it was aflux of emotions.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Gotcha.
So you're saying it's more thatyou could have unpacked.
Now do you think you would evergo back and do a part two or an
addendum to that book?
You haven't thought that farahead.
Or, you know, tell him more ofyour story book.
You haven't thought that farahead, or you, you know, tell it
more of your story.
You know what if?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
for the people who
have not purchased the book,
when you do get the book and forthe people who have purchased,
they see it's an epilogue at theend and so it is a part two
that's coming out, whichactually goes uh, it retraces
back to some things that I didnot put in the book and so that
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is coming out.
It's going to have to come outa little later, but it will.
Hopefully.
I want to say I want to have itdone by the end of 2025.
I do plan on coming out withvolume two, or you know part two
of it Now.
Have you found it easy toforgive the offenders, or is
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that still a struggle for you?
You know what?
For the offenders in my book,they have already been forgiven
and God bless them.
All the offenders that are inthat book have passed away.
They were forgiven by me faceto face, long before they passed
away.
I've noticed that and I'mlearning within maybe the last.
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I want to say well, I forgavemy grandmother a long time ago.
So I want to say, within thepast maybe 10 years, I've been
learning that hurt people hurtpeople and we're so quick to
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just hold on to hatred and hurtand things like that when in the
end, we only hurting ourselvesby doing that.
You never know what that personthat hurt you may have went
through and what their parentsmay have put them through.
A lot of times we get there.
We used to be kids and we usedto have parents, and so did they
.
So you never know that.
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They're just probably on thathamster wheel.
You know, going through thatsame cycle that their parents
went through and they can onlydo what they know and that's
learned behavior.
So before you're an adult,you're a kid and as a kid you're
taught.
Whether it's visually beingtaught about what you're seeing,
that's going on around you, orsomebody is telling you to do
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these things, you are stillbeing taught.
You are in the learning process.
So whatever anybody does to me,I always take it as somebody
had to teach them.
They had to learn it fromsomewhere.
So I try not to fault people toomuch.
Now, I'm not saying that theyget a pass from what they're
doing.
That's not what I'm saying.
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But what I'm saying is is thatwe have to learn to give people
grace, because in that samebreath that we hold known to
what somebody did to us, we havedone things, even though it may
not in our eyes be as bad.
You don't know what's badcompared.
You know you don't know what,what's that bad?
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You know, in the eyes of theperson that you're offending or
that you did, it may be theworst thing in the world to them
and all you did was curse themout.
And it may be the thing thattook the iceberg for them and
sent them off.
And you could be like, well,damn, all I did was curse them
out.
I can't believe she went andslit her wrist or whatever
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because I cursed her out.
We have to be mindful.
We always want to be forgiving,but we don't want to forgive.
And I give you a scenario.
My son, who has ADHD, has a 504plan at school.
Right, well, at his school andhe has straight A's.
Well, they have to grade him ona curve because you know he has
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attention deficit disorder too,and so they have to.
You know, if he's late turningin his work or it's not
organized, they have to gradehim on a curve.
With that they got to give himgrace.
Well, he got straight A's.
Then they went back and said,well, he turned in his work late
.
So they, you know all the daysthat he turned in his work late,
just a couple of the teachersdropped his grade down to a C,
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but they did that three weeksafter grades were already put in
.
And I said well, why did youguys wait?
Well, we have so many kids, itwas hard for us, so we were late
doing it.
Well, you don't want to give mychild grace, but you expect me
to give you grace when you'redoing the same thing.
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You want grace for turning inyour stuff late, but you don't
want to give a 12-year-old grace.
Now you understand where I'mcoming from, and even as parents
, our kids make mistakes and wewant to jump down their throat.
But if we make a mistake, weeither don't want to apologize
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to our kids because, well,they'll do something wrong in
the future, so I'm letting themknow now, or they, the kids, I
don't have to apologize to a kid.
Well, yes, you do, because wehave to teach our kids that, no
matter who it is, if they'rewrong they need to apologize.
And then we have to also teachour kids to learn to give people
grace.
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So, with the offenders in thebook, I've learned to forgive
all of them, and I have forgivenall of them.
Every single one of the peoplethat did anything wrong to me
has passed away in that book thelast five years.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Gotcha, wow, okay, so
you said a lot of, made a lot
of good points.
One of the things I want topoint out you were saying about
giving grace life is a learningcurve.
We'll never be a master at life, because we go through the ebbs
and flows of life.
We're learning as we're growing.
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My taste buzz as a child is notthe same as an adult, right?
The things I enjoyed as a childI don't enjoy as an adult.
So, um, well, even the biblespeaks about when I was a child,
I did things as a child.
When I came a man, I put awaychildish things.
So we grow and we learn.
The important thing is to learnfrom you, know and learn
through and know.
Make sure that we don't getstuck in this.
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That's just me.
No, we can, we all can learn,even, like you said, with the
child.
We can apologize to a childwhen we're wrong.
Um, actually, it's healthy, um,a healthy form of communication
.
So that that was, um, wonderfulto hear.
Now let's just transitionreally quickly to something
that's coming up with a group ofladies, something really big
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that will be released soon,something that's coming, you
know, with rainbows andbutterflies and happiness.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
There's a thing I
believe there's an anthology or
something I heard of.
Am I losing my mind?
Is there an anthology?
Am I losing my?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
mind.
Is there an anthology?
Is there a devotional attachedto it or something along those
lines, I think?
Women of the Waiting Room ohGod, that thing.
Yes, I'm going to say thattrain is rolling, baby, oh my
goodness.
So share with me about thewomen of the rating of the
anthology and the devotional.
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Take us into the mind ofJacqueline Cox.
What happened?
It got downloaded.
Were you sitting in your car?
How did this come about?
You know what?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
um, I've only been in
the author realm and you know,
as an author, a published authorfor a little over a year now,
and in that time I've umpublished, uh, two solo projects
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of my own.
I helped my children publishtheir books.
I've, you know, assisted myhusband with publishing.
He has three that's already outand then he has three on the
way and I participated in awonderful anthology Message, and
that anthology was truly, trulyGod-sent, was truly, truly
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godsend.
After that experience I decidedI would never do another
anthology.
It was just a lot, and so I waslike, okay, no, I'm not going
to do that, no more.
Well, I had this podcast, and mypodcast, as you know, you've
been a guest on it.
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It was always Listen LindaPresents the Women of the
Waiting Room, and so you've beena guest.
I've had a plethora of gueststhat come on and God said to me
that's what I want you to do Now.
I knew God was building me upfor something, because when I
started Listen Linda, I startedon station here and I was just
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playing music, you know, and itwas something for me to kind of
just get by.
I had just had my son, I wasoff work and I was, you know, he
was a C-section baby.
So I needed something to do,kind of past time, and I've
always been a lover of music.
So I had my own radio show andI took that and I turned it into
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a TV radio show and when thatreally wasn't working out for me
, I didn't know what to dobecause I had a following at
that time and people reallywanted to hear what I had to say
.
But guests were also veryintrigued and you know they like
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to come kick it with you girls.
So we had a good time, a goodkiki every time you come on.
And so you know, I just youknow I try to make it very fun,
get people comfortable and, justyou know, help them come out of
their shell so they can gettheir audience to really
understand who they are.
God put it on my heart one nightand was like no, that's what
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you're going to do, you're goingto do an anthology.
And I was like no, I ain't.
And he said, oh, yes, you are.
And I was like I'm not doingnothing.
I already said I wasn't goingto do nothing.
He said, no, you're not goingto join one, you're going to
create one.
And when you have dominion overthese things, you're able to
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create a better experience forother people than one that you
may have had before.
So I decided okay, I'm going todo it.
And he said you're going tocall it the women of the waiting
room surgery, for your soul.
And I called Miss Laquita and weactually came up with the name
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because I said I want to be kindof like a reader's digest,
right, I don't want to be incontrol of nobody's story.
I don't want to tell people howthey should write their
chapters.
I don't want to be, you know,micromanaging or you know.
I just want I want people to doit, you know, and be free and
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do it.
Write it the way you want towrite it.
As long as there's no grammar,no errors, you stick within the
theme, I'm good.
And so I said now, how am Igoing to do this?
He said go to your analytics,right?
So first, six women are goingto be the women that you choose.
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Well, the first six women wereLaquita Parks, dr Velma Bagby.
Six women were Laquita Parks,dr Velma Bagby, uh, carolyn
Coleman, dr Audrey Ann, melanieJohnson and Teresa Dorsey.
And when I called these womenwho also said they was done with
anthologies, they all said wegot you no problem, and whatever
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I needed they were there Handsdown.
So that's why I said it's notmy vision, okay, that's why I
don't like people to call me avisionary.
You know, I'm not the visionaryof this project.
I can't take credit forsomething that God gave me,
right?
I can't take credit for that.
So I give that glory to God,but I am the vessel that he used
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to bring forth this project.
So we get the anthology,everybody turned in their
chapters and I get a call fromDr Velma.
She said I think that youshould do a devotional.
I said what?
But it made sense.
I was like now, wait a minute.
Now the reason why I cut y'alloff at seven is because I didn't
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want to deal with a lot ofpeople at one time.
Now, don't get me wrong, I lovedealing with people.
I'm a people person, but notall in a group like that.
It could be challenging for me,right?
Because it's a lot ofpersonalities in one room at one
time and it could beoverstimulating for me, you know
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, dealing with my condition thatI have.
So I said I don't know how I'mgoing to do it, but God going to
get me through it.
Well, it made sense because whenI came out with the anthology,
I had an overflow of people like, how can I be a part?
And you was one of them, girl.
How can I be a part of thisproject?
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What do I got to do?
Put me on, put me in coach.
And I'm like, okay.
Well, I knew that the cost toproduce something this big was
pricey.
But God said, you know what,sow a seed.
So I was able to come up with areasonable price and negotiate
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with the publisher to be able tosay, okay, you know what, half
the things that the publisherwould provide, I would just do
myself, since I'm a creativeanyway, to kind of knock some of
those you know things down.
And so we came up with thedevotional and we came up with a
price that everybody can affordso everybody can be able to
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tell their testimony on how Goddelivered them from the waiting
room, from their own waitingrooms.
And when I say waiting rooms,that could be a plethora of
things.
It could be something that'sbeen challenging for you or that
is right now.
You're in your waiting season.
Right now You're waiting on Godto deliver you from something.
God has delivered you fromsomething, or you may not feel
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like God will ever deliver youfrom something, so maybe you
just want to write a letter toGod.
You know, whatever it is thatyou're going through in your
life, I want people to, from allover globally.
I'm already a global brand.
God already put me there withthe podcast, so I want to use
this platform to reach more andmore people and show them look,
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god took me me with all my flaws, everything that I've done in
my life.
He took me and he put me hereand he delivered me.
And if he could do it for meand the other 33 women in this
anthology, it's a, it's a chancehe could do it for you.
Even if you don't believe, youjust bring this book in your
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house, because if you got afriend that got faith, god will
heal you based on your friend'sfaith, and I'm that friend the
women in the waiting room we'rethat friend for you.
So when you get this book, youknow that you got 33 people who
are cheering you on and that'sall you will need.
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That and your Bible and yourfaith, and that's all you will
need, and God will deliver youfrom that and then you will have
a testimony.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Awesome, that's
awesome.
I think it's wonderful to havea group of women to come
together and collaborate.
That that's always a beautifulthing.
So kudos to you for um takingthe leap and believing god and
trusting god to do what heinstructed you to do, and I'm
sure it's going to change many,many lives.
Um, the purpose of testimoniesis to, you know, encourage
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somebody else.
Sometimes, when we go through,we're able to help others.
So I'm believing that whenpeople pick up that book,
they'll be able to seethemselves and realize I can be
okay and I'll make it.
On the other side, nextquestion is a two part.
How does it feel, being thatyou are relatively new to being
an author and have accomplishedso much in such a short span of
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time?
How does it feel to have peoplecoming to you, you know, for
guidance, and what would be theone piece of advice you would
give to an upcoming author?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I feel humbled that
people even you know, consider
me being so new, like a rookie.
I get people coming up to meall the time, writers who have
been writing for years, like youknow.
Hey, I need some coaching hereand it's flattering, but it's
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also scary sometimes, to behonest with you, because I'm so
new and, to be honest with you,I don't know how God is doing it
.
And so when people come andthey say they need help, I have
to use discernment, I have topray on it and I have to let God
lead me and lead my tongue inwhat I'm saying to them, because
I don't want like to be oh, Idid this, you know, on my own.
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God is doing everything and ifyou notice and anybody who knows
me know, I give glory to God,honor to God, but I don't care.
It could be the smallest thing,it could be.
Mcdonald's approved my M&M'sand Oreos.
You know, together in myMcFlurry, because you know
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that's a no-no.
They don't do that, so I mightget you know and I'd be like, oh
, thank the Lord.
God, you know you're so good.
You allowed these people togive me Oreos and M&M's at the
same time in my McFlurry today.
To God be the glory.
Okay, I give honor, but I don'tcare what it is I'm if, I just
know everything that that comesis a blessing.
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So it can be sometimes honest,overwhelming, sometimes, um,
because I don't.
You know, a wise person knowsthat they know nothing at all,
right, so I say that, to saythat I do my best.
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I do my best with what I haveand give the best advice that I
can.
The one thing I would say to anup-and-comer author is trust
your gut.
I will say write it, no matterwho gets mad about it.
If they're a villain in yourstory, they should have treated
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you better and never let anyonetell you what you can and cannot
write.
Don't get with a publisher whotell you you can't do this or
you shouldn't do that in yourwork, because it's yours and
it's your creativity.
Never let no one take the wheel.
You keep dominion over yourwork and if a publisher don't
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like what you're writing in yourbook, then they're not the
publisher for you.
And another thing I will sayjust because you are a
bestseller does not mean thatyou're a millionaire.
Okay, you could be a bestseller.
I can tell you right now youcould be a bestseller and only
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sell eight books.
It's people that purposely getin small categories so they can
reach bestseller status fast.
So it's not a question of howmany books did you sell to make
you a bestseller.
It's not even a question ofpopularity, of how popular you
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are to become a bestseller.
It's all about strategy.
What categories did you put itin?
How many people are in thatcategory?
When are you releasing?
Are you releasing the same dayas a popular or known celebrity?
You have to check all thosefactors when you're trying to
reach or if that's your goal tobe a bestseller, because you
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could do that easy.
You could do that easy.
Drop gems about your book, notjust a book cover.
I need excerpts.
I want to know what the book isabout.
I might want to know.
I want to read a page out ofthe book before I buy it, just
to see if it's something I wantto read, because I'm going to
tell you right now people don'tread.
They do not read.
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They will buy your book becausethey are your friend or your
family member and they willnever crack their book open, not
one time.
You have to engage with theaudience.
Get book trailers done, getvisuals done People love visual
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book.
Or you coming out withsomething, write an excerpt
about the you know, give them apage out of the book, post it on
your social media just to givethem something a little bit.
Or get a book trailer that kindof you know gives like the
synopsis of what's going on in abook.
So they could be like oh, thisis like a movie, oh man, I can't
wait to read that.
And then they'll get it.
Tell them, get it on Audible orget it, you know, get a ebook
(32:11):
with their you know, whoever,whoever buys your book, get a
free ebook.
That way they can do the readout loud and get it.
You know, and and and listen tothe book while they're driving
in the car is ways to get peopleengaged in your stories and
know that your friends and yourfamily is not your customer,
(32:31):
that's not your audience.
They're your supporters.
But it's a difference betweenhaving supporters and then
having an audience.
So you have to know youraudience, and that one I was on
Cyrus.
I was listening to him when hesaid the same thing and that's
something that I've always said,but I want to second that and
(32:54):
give credit to Cyrus Webb onAmazon.
Uh, he's an Amazon influencerwho also said this, I think
about a week or two ago, and Iwas like absolutely, people get
that confused.
Your family love you, yourfriends love you.
They are your support system,so they're going to buy your
(33:16):
book.
But if they don't buy your book, you have to remember look at
who you're asking to buy yourbook.
The person who didn't evengraduate high school, who rob
and peter to pay paul, or whoyou ain't never seen crack open
a book?
That's not their forte, that'snot their cup of tea.
So when your family and friendsdon't buy your book, it don't
(33:39):
mean that they don't support you.
That's just not.
They jig, maybe they don't liketo read, and that's okay.
That's why, before your bookwas coming out, you should have
been leaving excerpts.
You should have been onplatforms like this.
You should have been leavingexcerpts.
You should have been onplatforms like this.
You should have been readingexcerpts of your book targeting
the audience that you want toattract, to sell your books.
You have to put the work in.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You said a mouthful,
a lot of work.
I hope if any beginning authorsrecord this snapshot, it take a
picture, type it out, write itdown all platforms, all podcast
platforms, this time of month.
Yes, swallow that word and, and, and, and, digest it and live
(34:25):
it now I gave y'all a hundreddollars worth of worth of100
worth of bestseller strategy.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
right now, I just
gave y'all a free consultation
with me, a free strategy sessionthat I charged $100 for.
So record it.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Well, no, anything
worth having is worth fighting
for.
And if it's truly your passionand your dream, your goals, to
do this, you got to put in thework.
I always say when I'mmotivational speaking I would be
an irresponsible speaker tojust say you can do it.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
And not tell you that
, but it's going to cost you
something you got to put in thework.
You have to invest in yourselfand I will tell you something
else.
Y'all out here, y'all writingthese books.
I really need to say this Now,linda coming out.
Listen, linda, I'm going totell y'all this right now Please
(35:21):
do not expect to write a bookif you do not want to advertise
it and then expect it to makemoney.
Don't, nobody know who you are.
Nobody knows who you are out ofthe 20 mile radius that you
live in.
How do you expect to sell booksand make money?
(35:42):
I'm talking about the peopledoing it for the money and not
for the message.
You know, how do you expect tomake money If you write under a
pen name and you don't have nosocial media and you don't want
to invest.
You don't want to pay formarketing.
You want to come on a platformlike mine, or you want to come
on a platform like Elena's andyou don't want to pay for
(36:05):
marketing.
You don't want to pay forpromotion.
You don't want to, becausethat's marketing and promotion.
I'm on 40 platforms worldwide.
I'm in 14 different countries.
14 now, okay, it was 10.
There's 14 different countriesnow who are listening in to my
show as soon as I make it globaland I put it out on all
podcasts.
(36:25):
I'm on 40 platforms, 14countries.
You know how many people aregoing to be listening to that
excerpt.
You might read, or you know,and so we're supposed to take
this time and do it for you, forfree, because you're who.
I'm going to tell you somethingthat Ayanna said that I will
(36:49):
always remember because itstruck me in my heart.
I don't mind doing things forfree if it aligns with my brand
or it touches my heart, okay, Idon't mind doing it for free,
I'm not saying that.
But if it takes me away from mykids, my family, my time is
(37:10):
valuable.
I am valuable.
I value myself, my time, but Ialso value the oil that God has
given me Now.
I am a surviving lupus, thyroidcancer, fibromyalgia, cancer
fibromyalgia, ptsd, depression,usher syndrome okay, and I'm
(37:35):
doing all of this with style andgrace, okay, but I can no
longer, right now, work a nineto five.
That's why everything that I donow is virtual.
Well, now I'm a paid writer forpay the host and a paid
contributor writer for pod starsmagazine, but congratulations,
thank you so much.
(37:56):
But what I'm saying is is thateverything, everything that god
has given me to work with rightnow, is oil for me to use, to be
able to provide.
Okay, and not just for myself,for my family.
And if you go to work everysingle day, elena, and they tell
(38:17):
you, okay, well, you know whatwe feel like today and tomorrow,
you don't have to get paidbecause you know.
We just feel like we don't wantto pay you.
You can be like well, you canforget this, I'm not working for
free, absolutely.
You value your time as value.
What you bring in, you're anasset.
(38:39):
And if somebody is an asset toyou in any aspect, whether it's
even if they you can at leastbarter with them, do something,
you know, I scratch your back,elena, you scratch mine.
It don't always have to bemoney, but show somebody that
they are appreciated, becausethe moment you start taking
(38:59):
people for granted and takingtheir gifts for granted and then
they walk out of your life andnever return and turn the lights
off on what y'all did have,just don't drag them, don't bury
them because you took advantageof that person.
You have to be mindful of theconnections that you make,
(39:19):
because what you may deemunvaluable you won't realize
until it's not there for you.
No more, absolutely, I wouldsay uh, connections is it's
currency.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Right, when you
connect with people, you want to
make sure you're investing yourtime you're wisely.
Um, because some someconnections what you say about
friends and family.
They're not gonna help you getwhere you want to go.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
They're gonna support
you no, but they ain't gonna
read it.
That look, all my whole familybought my book and I'm gonna
tell you right now, if theycracked it open and read it, I'd
have been in a fight because Itold everything.
But they bought it.
But I know they didn't read it.
You know, I know they didn'tread it because there's some
(40:05):
stuff in that book.
I spilled some tea in mountains, babe.
I told you, I spilled some teain mountains.
About everybody caught astray.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Everybody caught
astray in mountains.
You know, and all my friendsand people who knew me back then
, who friends with the peoplethat are deceased or family
members of the people who aredeceased, that were on me, they
all bought the book.
But I know they didn't open it.
But they bought it because thelove and respect for me and
supporting me.
But so if they saying, yeah, Ibought the book, well, did you
(40:39):
read it?
No, I didn't read it, don't getupset with them.
Be grateful that they boughtthe book and even if they don't
buy the book, ask them to justshare it on their page.
And if they don't want to dothat, god bless their ministry.
Find your group, find youraudience, find your support
system.
Absolutely Every woman is in adifferent state.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Far and wide support
system.
I always say no one owes youanything, no.
So when you start to become anauthor or whatever you're doing,
you get mad at people.
They don't owe you anything.
It would be nice.
It would be a nice curve.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
And stop curbing that
term.
Gatekeeper.
Let's please throw it awaythese people have.
Look, let me tell y'allsomething Nobody owes you.
They don't have to.
I don't have to drop these gemsthat I'm dropping today.
I don't have to put nobody onand help nobody get nowhere.
That's the god in me, okay.
But let's be clear.
(41:39):
Just like it took me time tolearn things, it took elena time
to learn things.
If we decide not today, I don'twant to tell you, or somebody
don't want to tell you, orsomebody don't want to tell you
you can't get mad at them.
It might took them 10 years tolearn that craft and you want
them to give it to you in 30minutes.
How was that fair?
Just go take a class, get aYouTube.
(42:01):
I had to learn everything aboutpodcasting from YouTube
University.
Nobody, I reached out.
They don't want to help me donothing.
Do you hear me?
They never shared a post.
They help me do nothing.
Do you hear me?
They never shared a post.
They never did nothing.
Do you hear me?
They did not do nothing.
I had to start over fromscratch, didn't teach me nothing
.
But when I did it and god putme on a global platform now, oh
(42:23):
yeah, we see your value.
Now you can come back.
No, thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
No thank you no thank
you Look.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Pray to God.
If it's something that youreally really want, I don't care
what it is.
If it's something you reallywant to do, you're really
passionate about it.
Pray to God, get in thatwaiting room, get in your war
room.
Pray to God and ask God forwisdom, ask God for knowledge.
Ask God to gift you with thethings that you may feel you
(42:55):
lack, the skills that you mayfeel like you don't have.
Pray to God.
Tell him to give you theclarity and the wisdom to be
able to find that informationsomewhere.
Or start attending networkingsessions, whether it's virtual
conferences, whatever it is.
Invest that into yourself.
All the time and energy that wespend thinking about statuses to
(43:17):
put about why people don'tsupport us, and looking for
memes on Facebook for hours andhours because we so mad that
people don't support us, we needto find the best one to throw
some shade.
That time that you areresearching what to post on
Facebook, you could beresearching your craft.
You could be putting that heart, all of that, into what you are
(43:38):
doing.
You could be attending virtualsummits, virtual conferences,
workshops.
There's so much stuff out herethat you could do.
You could be talking tosomebody like me who's going to
say you know what?
I got a Rolodex of people I canput you with.
I have no problem sharing myRolodex, but what I do have is
(44:02):
constant calls about it.
Book me, please.
I can give you everything youneed.
If you book me, get a strategysession with me.
I got you, but my time got tobe worth something.
You know what I'm saying, elena.
At least help a sister orsomething.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
I hear you, I hear
you.
I understand when you put a lotof time into building your
craft.
You just can't give everythingaway for free.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
It's okay to be
helpful?
No, you cannot.
You can be helpful for free.
It's okay to be helpful, youcan be, and it's okay to give it
away.
It's okay, but you have todiscern who you give it to.
You have to discern who yougive that gift to.
Everybody is not deserving.
Some people may be in a chestasthma season.
Well, god is chest has in them.
(44:50):
So we can't be superhero andkeep saving people from that
tail whooping that god is tryingto get them right now.
And if we keep saving peopleand they don't learn a lesson,
then they become entitled, theybecome clingy and they become
(45:11):
abusive, as far as narcissistic,and you know, you know it could
be mentally draining on you andthat we do not have.
They're taking everything fromyou until they feel like it's
nothing left.
That's a leech.
I ain't never seen nobody pet aleech and put a leash on them
(45:33):
and say this is my new pet,uh-uh.
No, some people come just todistract you.
So you may be trying to getyour work done and you will get
that same person, elena, callingyou a hundred times.
You get what I'm saying andyou'll be like no, a minute, I'm
trying to get this done.
(45:53):
So you have to have discernmenton who you open that door for,
who you allow into your space,and let god tell you if that's
the right person or not.
And you may have to sit back afew months and just watch how
that person move first to get asense of who that person is.
(46:15):
But don't be so quick to jumpand don't be so quick to take
every opportunity or everydollar, because some people have
you riding on a hamster wheeland you'll be thinking you
taking off and you running onwhat they call them things at
the gym.
Elena, help me out.
A treadmill, a treadmill.
(46:35):
You be running on a treadmill,baby you be getting off that
thing and they move nowhere.
Yeah, taking you climbing upthat mountain.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yeah, the spirit of
retirement is really a real
thing, that people feel you owethem something.
But what I I'm not saying helpis not good, but one thing I've
learned in my journey Iappreciate the journey more
because I put in the work.
I put in the work and put thetime in, and it also taught me
discipline.
There are some times when I wasso tired but I didn't want to
(47:09):
do it, and that discipline stoodup strong when I was weak you
know I wasn't.
Everything was, oh, I'm soexcited Sometimes that joy isn't
enough.
Discipline has to rise up andyou continue to push through and
produce what you're supposed toproduce.
But putting in the work for meis so important, it's so
important and I just think itjust makes makes you a bad,
(47:30):
makes you appreciate everythingyou receive even the more
because you put in the blood,the sweat, the tears, the late
nights, the early mornings youknow on the computer all night,
you know pacing the room you'rein the shower, idea come.
You got to step out, grab apencil, jot it down so you don't
forget your idea, all of thosethings that comes with being a
creative.
A creative never sleeps.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
A creative never
sleeps.
A creative never sleeps.
But in being a creative I cantruly say I never work.
I never work as long as it'ssomething that I enjoy doing,
when it starts to get chaotic,and that's when you know this is
(48:14):
not God.
This is not God, and you knowlike, and that's where
discernment comes in.
But I do want to speak on whatyou just said real briefly,
because I know you got to get toyour next question.
You put the work in.
A lot of people want to see youfloat, but they don't want to
(48:36):
see you sell.
They don't want to pay for theticket, but they want to run on
the side of the train when it'staken off and hop on, or they
want to wait until somethinggets popular before they
congratulate you.
Thank them anyway, but thankyou before they congratulate you
.
Thank them anyway, but thankyou, but no, thank you If that
(48:57):
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
In this journey, you
also have to develop thick skin.
You can't always wear yourfeelings on your sleeve because
you're just throwing the toweland don't want to do it if
everything you do is based offof people and how they respond.
That's why, in the beginning,what is your why?
And you know your why you knowit gives you that extra strength
.
I said when popeye, when heeats the spinach, I'm moving,
you know, the tip of theshoulder made him feel better,
(49:21):
but when he ate the spinach, itfortified him.
So so you know, I just like touse that analogy.
Now this is my actually I'm atmy final question and I want to
know if I were to see a paintingin a museum describing you not
a picture, a painting what wouldit look like?
(49:41):
What would the textures be?
What would be the colors?
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Oh, that's a great
question.
Oh, that's a great question.
Hi, you know what I would haveto say.
(50:10):
It would look like describingme today.
It would be a mixture, or thetexture would definitely be a
few.
It would be rocky, smooth andgloss, right.
(50:30):
It would put you in the mindframe.
I hope I'm saying his nameright, because I always get it
wrong, but Baswe, baswe, basweAm.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
I saying it right.
I'm not familiar with his work,so I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Baswe, this is how
you spell his name, so I don't
know if I'm spelling it right,um, or am I saying it right, but
I know how to spell itb-a-s-q-u-a-i-t.
Ah, that's keith, yes,something of that sort.
Um, I'm a lover of his work, um, so it would kind of put me in
(51:12):
that mind frame, because I'mvery, my energy is very high, um
, I'm very vibrant, but I'm alsobuilt tough.
So that's why I said kind ofrocky, kind of rough, um, glossy
(51:33):
, because I, just I, I'm vibrant, you know, I, um, I, I I'm
polished, right, but alsocolorful, in the sense and as
far as the colors, I wouldprobably say maybe like a
(51:55):
burgundy with pink, but alsolike a sandy, red, dusk type of
color.
Those would be my colors a warmcolor, yeah, maybe a little
dark spots here and there forthe days that I am down.
(52:15):
Because I told you, I lost alot of people that were really
close to me, even though theywere villains in my story at a
time.
You know, they were all stillvery close to me, um, especially
before they passed um, and theyare no longer here.
So you know, at times like May3rd you know, tomorrow is my
(52:39):
grandmother's birthday.
She's no longer here.
She died on the day of my son'sbirthday, his third birthday,
jaden's third birthday so 10years ago my dad passed away.
His birthday is May 26th.
Okay, so you know my friend whobetrayed me so many different
(53:02):
times in the book, but shepassed away at 30 years old due
to.
She left the hospital to bailher husband out of jail, um, and
yeah, she was on dialysis andshe left to go bail him out of
jail.
She sat there for four hoursand on her way back to the
hospital on the bus, she passed.
(53:24):
Um.
She was 30 years old.
Um, a lot of my uncles, um, justuh, my foster mom, my foster
sister, um, who I was very, veryclose with my foster
grandmother they all passed away, all of these people within the
(53:46):
past five years within it, withexception of my grandmother and
the biggest villain in my story, which was my uncle, who
started the trauma, passed sixmonths after my dad.
So those dark spots wouldprobably be the times when I get
real down, when certain thingscome up, like Father's Day or my
(54:09):
dad's birthday, or the day oftheir passing, or anniversary of
their passing, or justmilestones that my kids may take
that they're not here to seeyou know.
So yeah, which I'm sure,everybody has those things you
know with people that they werereally close to that's no longer
(54:30):
here and they have those times,you know so.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Absolutely.
You know we're a human being.
You know we're entitled toevery feeling and emotion.
The Bible even speaks of it asa time to laugh, time to cry,
time to mourn.
You know it's a time for it,all you know and it's just, it's
a part of life.
It is definitely a part of life, and anybody that tell you
they're always up, they're nottelling you the truth, because
(54:56):
life and flows absolutely alwayssaid watch that person with a
smile.
Speaker 3 (55:03):
um what he, Chucky,
the Gremlins, Jigsaw, and it all
had something in common theyall wore smiles.
So you have to be careful ofthe person.
Everybody that wears a smileain't good and everybody that
(55:27):
don't smile ain't bad.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
Absolutely,
Absolutely, Absolutely.
I agree.
Well, listen, Linda.
Ms Jacqueline, this has been anamazing opportunity to come on
your platform and interview theinterviewer.
I just want to simply say toyou thank you Publicly.
You're welcome to you, thank youpublicly when I um met you.
(55:55):
From day one you have beennothing but open.
Kind to me, um, like you said,the word gatekeeper no, no, not
at all.
You have been a wonderfulinspiration.
I have been so proud to watchyour journey um, all of the
things that you're putting out,how you're able to gather women.
Your posts are always soinspirational.
You're never ashamed or abashedabout the word of God.
You stand true within yourself.
(56:17):
You represent your family.
You make sure that, with thesame veracity, you promote
yourself.
Your children, their books, aregiven the same love.
Your husband, his books, aregiven the same love.
I've seen you support countless,countless, countless women, and
don't think it's not goingunnoticed.
You know, unfortunately, thehigher you go, the more of a
(56:38):
light that shines on you.
Some people look at it andappreciate it, others look and
hate.
But I want to let you know thatmajority of the people on your
side the few that aren't they'reso loud it tends to drown out
those of us who are trulyrooting for you, but at the end
of the day, you have a strongarmy of women and men that are
(56:58):
truly, truly and really on yourside, thankful for all of the
wonderful things you've done.
I could just say, just for me,advice, the questions that
you've asked when I started thisjourney.
Come on my podcast.
How's this going, elena, wouldyou like to?
Hey, I got this, just shoot anemail, this is going on.
Tag me in a Facebook post.
(57:20):
It is so refreshing andwonderful to run into a woman
who genuinely cares about people, not just shooting smoke.
So I wanted to tell you, onyour platform and for the world
and all of your listeners whenyou tune in, you listen to a
true woman of God, a true womanof integrity, a woman of her
word, a woman of femininity, awoman of beauty, a woman of
(57:42):
grace, and she is a person worthfollowing and gleaning from by
all of her books, matter of fact, by two or three I share with
your neighbors.
So again, thank you for thisopportunity.
I am so happy to have connectedwith you and I just wanted to
make sure you know that Igenuinely appreciate you and the
world knows.
Do you have any final thoughtsbefore we close out this
(58:04):
conversation tonight?
Yes, I want you to tell peoplewhat you have coming up.
Speaker 3 (58:11):
I want you to also
tell people where they can find
you, where they can purchaseyour books.
And, uh, lead us into your song.
Give us the title of the songso we can play that going out
all right.
Speaker 2 (58:26):
Well, yet again, I'm
trying to give her love and she
shoot it right back.
I mean mean a hand that's opento give and receive.
Thank you again.
Well, again, I am Elena Maria.
I am that across all platforms.
Author Elena A-L-L-A-I-N-AMaria.
My website is elenamariacom.
I am a 360 author writing acrossmultiple genres, starting out
(58:48):
with urban fiction.
I have some children's earlyeducational books, as well as a
10-part healing from journalseries that I'm so excited I
literally released it on thefirst um.
I have a 10-part healing fromjournal series helping to jump
start healing from multipletopics.
10 different topics, just a fewhealing from fear, healing from
(59:08):
friendship, uh breakups.
Healing from my ex there's onethat's healing from me, healing
from grief.
It's 10 different topics.
You know that everyone can findtheir place to begin to jump
start the healing.
Um.
As well as I'm an urban fictionauthor with my debut novel,
mariah, I'm also a screenwriter.
That book, mariah, will beturning into a movie.
(59:29):
We already started in thebackground um getting the work
done.
So again, elanamariecom, andthank you so much for the
opportunity and the song.
Um.
I led a song with love andfaith community church um on the
album sing the song of the lord.
Speaker 3 (59:46):
I'm so excited
jacqueline's gonna play it, so
right now we're gonna playworthy holyy Holy featuring
Elena Washington with LamarSimmons in Spirit and Truth.
Yes, all right, thank you guysso much.
I appreciate you, elena so sovery much.
I love you, I love everyone.
This will be globally, on allplatforms tomorrow at this time,
(01:00:10):
at 7 pm, central Standard Time.
You guys, it's been a pleasureand, elena, thank you again so
much.
I love you sister and I got yougirl.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Yes, ma'am, and I got
you right back.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Come on, let's
celebrate God.
Come on, let's celebrate God.
Come on, let's celebrate God.
And here's why Because he'sworthy.
Holy, he is worthy.
Holy Our God is worthy.
(01:00:53):
Holy, he is worthy.
Holy Our God is worthy.
Holy is.
Wave your hand, come on now.
All of the mighty God'schildren wave your hand.
(01:01:16):
Sing it again.
All of the mighty God'schildren wave your hand.
Yes, sir, now, all of themighty God's children wave your
hand.
Here's why.
Here's why.
(01:01:37):
Here's why Because she's worthy.
Holy, she is worthy.
Holy Our God is worthy.
Holy, she is worthy.
Holy, our God is worthy.
Holy she.
Worthy.
Holy our God is worthy.
Holy we're here.
Worthy.
Holy our God is worthy.
Holy we're here.
Worthy, holy.
(01:01:57):
All of the mighty God'schildren clap your hands.
Come on now.
All of the mighty God'schildren clap your hands.
Sing it again now.
All of the mighty God'schildren clap your hands One
(01:02:25):
more time.
Now, all of the mighty God'schildren grab your hands.
He is wise.
He calls it worthy.
Holy, he is worthy.
Holy Our God is worthy.
Holy, he is worthy.
Holy Our God is worthy.
Holy, he is worthy.
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Holy Our God is worthy.
Holy, yes, he is worthy.
Holy.
I'm free.
Praise the Lord, I'm free.
Chains holding me.
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My soul is resting.
It's just another blessing.
Praise the Lord, hallelujah.
Well, if you're free, come onby something and with it.
Oh, by something and with it,oh, by something and with it, oh
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by something and with it, oh bysomething.
Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
and mine, oh, my
something is mine.
I am free.
Praise the Lord, I am free.
Anybody free again tonight?
No longer bound.
Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
No more chains
calling me.
My soul is resting.
It's just another blessing.
Praise the Lord, hallelujah.
Come on now.
Buy something and wave it.
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Buy something and wave it.
Buy something and wave it.
Buy something and wave it.
Buy something and wave it.
Buy something and wave it.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
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oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
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Come on, let's give him thehighest praise.
Somebody, open your mouth andscream hallelujah, hallelujah,
hallelujah, we bless your name,hallelujah, we bless your name.
Hallelujah, hallelujah,hallelujah, hallelujah,
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hallelujah, hallelujah,hallelujah, hallelujah,
hallelujah, hallelujah,hallelujah, hallelujah,
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hallelujah, hallelujah,hallelujah, hallelujah,
hallelujah, hallelujah,hallelujah, hallelujah,
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hallelujah, hallelujah,hallelujah, hallelujah,
hallelujah, glory to you,hallelujah, we give you the
praise.
Hallelujah, we bless your name.
Hallelujah, we give you thepraise.
Hall, we bless your name.
Hallelujah, hallelujah,hallelujah, hallelujah,
hallelujah, hallelujah,hallelujah, hallelujah,
hallelujah, hallelujah,hallelujah, hallelujah,
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hallelujah, hallelujah,hallelujah, hallelujah,
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hallelujah, Hallelujah,hallelujah, hallelujah,
hallelujah, Hallelujah,hallelujah, hallelujah,
hallelujah, Hallelujah.