From $0 to Sold-Out Arenas: The Sooshi Mango Story

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Where does it start? What were you lads doing before?
I was a scrap metal merchant. 'Cause I had a business.
What were you doing? I was a hooker.
Sushi Mango, selling out arenas,breaking records and dominating
the Internet with millions of views.
Unstoppable, untouchable. Changing the game.
People are following you around,filling out stadiums.
Well, how did you stay relevant for 10 years?

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We just gotta. Keep reinventing and rethinking
what you do. You can't do the same thing
forever. You could do a version of the
same thing, but has to keep a. So do we want to stay relevant
or do we want to create a legacy?
We want to create a legacy. So any move that we make has to
be towards a legacy. How do you create a legacy?
Well, I mean, look, I'm very good.
I don't know about them. Or it would be remissive us not

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to unpack the ethnic game whose idea it was.
There was a. Video.
I can't remember what video it was so I can't remember.
No credit, going to be a good one.
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The Sushi Mango boys, Joe Carlo and Andrew Boys, thanks for
coming in. One podcast.
Number Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Behind to. Break that down is that just

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like like my uncle's saying, I got to the number one St. turn
on, but #1A house on on the street I got to, I use it is
that. Something like that, is that
right? It's.
Bullshit statement is it I? Think we're #1 something number
one podcast in this building. There you go.
That's good. Something number one, by the
way, no. Seriously awesome boys.
Kudos to you. Yeah.

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Was it kudos or kudos? Kudos, kudos, kudos.
No kudos. Kudos, kudos, kudos.
Anyway, it's fucking great. Oh, can we swear on here?
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Yeah. Get fucked in.
There goes your demonetization. Yeah, it's gone.
Sponsors won't be happy if we ifwe had any boys.
Thanks so much for coming in. We're already laughing.

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We're laughing before the pod. Speaking of number ones and
going virals and all that sort of stuff, like your your stuff,
you've nearly been doing it for 10 years.
You're still there, you're stillcracking jokes.
People are following you around,filling out stadiums.
What's going on? How the fuck have you done it?
That's what we want to know. Like how did you stay relevant

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for 10 years? Well and be more relevant now
than you were 10? Years ago, I mean, look, I could
talk. I'm very good.
I don't know about them. But no, I don't know.
Look, what is it? We just constantly, I know what
I think it is, we don't, we don't realize if it's big or if
we're big or not. We just think we're the same and
we're going to keep pushing and keep getting better and keep

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growing. So I think that's what it is
like the arenas and everything that we've done is is amazing
and we're so grateful for it. But it's like we just want to do
more, you know? And we still don't think we've
reached high yet, you know? So so is it sort of you're not
resting on your laurels. You're you're not assuming that

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that you can stay in the same spot.
You know, you like it's authentic.
You know, you don't you don't drink the own bath water.
You just gotta keep grinding it out it.
Feels like day one. It does.
It doesn't feel like, like, it doesn't feel like we've done
well, you know, even though we've done some stuff or
whatever, just we've always got bigger dreams.
It feels like the first day and there's more and more people

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coming to the brand daily and weekly.
There's new people following us and finding out about us and you
know, there's new markets and there's into international
markets. So it just feels like, I don't
know, just feels like it's. New something?
Yeah, it's also the fact that sorry, Joe.
Fuck Joe. Yeah, yeah, fuck Joe.
Everything has to go in. Free.

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No, Well, I just wanted to say like to a company what Carlos
saying it's it's still feels fresh for us.
We're still enjoying it. So it's not stale.
Once something becomes stale, then if you get disinterested in
like whatever. So we're just having.
Fun. You're not forcing yourself to
do it. Yeah, yeah.
Definitely. Congratulations.
Coming back to the number one thing, although you're the
number one, why do you have the heaviest fucking microphone?

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In the world, man. I can see we're getting a bit of
pump out of that bicep. You look like you can handle it.
Heaviest. I'm holding the arm that's
holding the microphone. Underneath.
Here. Hey, Carla, you, you said
something really interesting that when you were referring to
you guys as the group, you referred to it as the brand,
right? At what point do you think that

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you that became something that you guys were looking at as a
brand? Because I'd imagine I'll
probably jumped a few steps forward.
But you know when you started, you're messing around and you're
doing some stuff. At what point did you realize
that brand was important? It was about Thursday 2:00,
right? Now, look, I think it was it's
pretty early on, like we always had an inkling that it needed to

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be because we're we were originally the four of us and
now now we're three. The the fourth guy sort of left
and done his own thing or whatever.
But I don't know. I felt like we're a trio.
I felt very Marx brothers and Laurel and Hardy ish.
And so we kind of it was pretty early on that we figured out
that, hey, this needs to be sortof a bit of a formula.

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But I think when we discovered the ethnic dads, Johnny,
Vincent, Sam, the characters, wewere like, oh, there's something
in there. There's something that they
represent. It's something that they stand
for. I think that was when we created
those characters was, was the very the clear turning point for
us. Like, OK, we've got a very
identical identifiable brand here that people, you know, that

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people tap into for nostalgia and laughs and, you know, for,
for, you know, us being a trio. So we sort of really leaned into
it then and that was around about 2017, 2017 was sort of.
And how does, how does it becomeSushi Mango then as the brand,
you know, So as the brand name, I suppose.

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The name. Yeah.
Yeah, the name. The name came from my son, like
that's how it all started. And back when we started the
page, he, he was, he was on the Dunning.
He was he was three years old, snapping one off saying sushi
mango. So what?
Something he just eaten recently.
He must have just eaten sushi inmango and we're saying,

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seriously, he was saying sushi mango and I went, that's
interesting. But those two words together
sounds really interesting. And then a couple of days later,
same thing was happening. So first of all, we're going to
close the door with the sun staking of shit.
But secondly, Carla was there and he was saying sushi mango.
And we're like, what's this? And he's like, what's what

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should we call this thing? What should we call?
This. And and then he was saying she
mango and I was saying be quiet because she mango.
And then we said, what about sushi mango?
And that's that's how it happened.
So it's quite bizarre how littlething, it's little things have
always happened on on the journey as well that you sort of
go, it's sorry to start to get fucking.

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It's like sight almost, you know, I'm.
Going back, you know, you, you start to go, oh shit, that what
the hell? Why did that happen and why did
it happen and why this happened?So it's it's interesting how
steps sort of come into play. You know what I mean?
It's. Important to remember that at
the beginning it wasn't ethnic humour, it was just humour.
So it kind of made better sense.Sushi manga at the time was just
just funny. Comedy isn't a.

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Bit of a life, yeah, Yeah. And then it became ethnic humour
and now it's gone back to sort of just humour again.
So starting a whole full circle kind of back to the, although
it's, it's, it's based in ethnicroots, the the comedy now has
become more than that. It's just they're funny
characters and, and everyone's resonated with them.
So it's just interesting how. Yeah.
I've had that all come around and it's weird.

(08:19):
And from what? From what we were saying before
about I don't know, we've done, you know, we we share a record
now with Jerry Seinfeld and Rod Laver, for example.
Yeah. Blowing.
Yeah, I know. I just heard about the other
week. Yeah.
Yeah. He's a new guy.
He's just come on the scene, young comedian and.
And and what? Did you just say that out?
Yeah. Like that's fucking.

(08:40):
Well, that's the thing. So, so these are all like, and I
said before about how we want tokeep going, keep growing,
whatever, but we we freak like seriously, it's a pinch yourself
moment for us all the time, especially when we're doing the.
Show standing on stage, yeah, that's.
Just fucking out of control. It's like, what the fuck am I
doing here? How am I here?
You know, it's it's it's bizarre.

(09:01):
We we got I got to meet Seinfeld.
He wanted to meet us. He followed us on Instagram and
he wanted to meet us the boys, you know, fucking Bali.
So it on my own. That was a.
Big fucking mistake. You know in.
Instagram now, like if someone who's got the blue tea course,
that's a that's a big account likes one of your your post, it
goes to the top. Yeah, and I've seen him like a

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couple of our posts. I'm oh, I'm screenshotting and
I'm sending him. Oh my God, he likes us.
He likes our stuff. So we're still kids.
You know. Yeah.
Fans fangirl with that shit, right?
There must be a few others as well.
That can't be the only one with you boys, no?
Who else do you reckon? Sort of like Tommy Lee.
Tommy Lee. Tommy Lee's a fan.
There's what's your name? Me of our Dallas from my Big Fat

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Greek. Yeah, yeah.
And we also heard Russell Mia told us that that she shared one
of our videos to Tom Hanks and John Stamos and Rita Wilson.
Rita Wilson. Because she's, she's Greek.
Greek. Yeah.
So she's, she's Greek and she gets all the stuff.
And yeah, so. So now they they probably they
will walk around saying it's Tadziki.

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You know my fucking son does it.It's, it's that stuff there,
which sort of just you never know who's watching it.
And, and we're still fangirls. I mean, we've met, been lucky
enough to meet a couple of people that come down the sound
like a fucking. One, just say it man, we can't
go that far. Because we met, you know, we've

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met like Donald Trump, we met. Donald Trump?
No, no, we met Chappelle. Kevin Hart, you know, Russell
Peters, Jo Koy, Gabriel and Glazes, you know, and like,
they've invited us in because we've done these things.
And. And again, just for me, I'm
still, I'm probably the biggest fan girl out of the most of the
boys. Unless Carlo meets Rocky, then

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he'll cry and probably, probablyjerk off in the corner.
Yeah. That's, that's, that's 100%.
Yeah. But Russell Peters said
something interesting to us. He said, you know, Russell
Peters the the the comedian got him.
Yeah, he he said. He goes.
Don't stop being a fan. Right.
Yeah, and because if if the minute you stop being a fan and

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pit, pit yourself, like, you know, you know, whatever is that
can change your whole mindset and you know, your drive and,
you know, forget where you come from type of thing.
And that's, that's that's the thing with us.
Like we, we're still fans. Because it keeps you authentic.
Yeah, part of it. You're not sitting on the
outside trying to infiltrate it.You're kind of inside and and

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part of it. With them.
So boys, I'm super intrigued. Where does something like this
start? This is a big juggernaut, big
beast, filling out stadiums. People at home are going all
right so I can put something on social.
Media Ground Zero? Yeah.
Where is Ground Zero? Where does it start and what
what were you lads doing before this sort?
Of guess what they were doing before they started?

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I reckon you didn't have a fucking.
Guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Have a guess. Pouring coffees or I can make
them that's. Fuck, that's racist.
That's right. The funny thing is we sell
pizzas now, by the way. You have full circle or fish
shell chips tips tips. Not the fruit tips.

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You would have been at Scully Brothers or something.
Well, it was in. I was a.
Scrap metal merchant. So I used to export metal that
was. I had my own business prior to
this. I just sold the did way through
last year actually. So you kept.
I stepped down for. Three years because I'm
concentrating on this, but just it was getting too difficult to
manage both and he still actually owns it.

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Yeah, so you're a steel guy during the day, big tough guy,
and then you dress. Dress like a woman?
Yeah, I say a joke. What's it like?
What's it like being on stage ina dress now?
And I say, well, I used to like containers with a dress on
anyway. There's no difference to me now.
That's true. That's actually what happens.
I had a business as well. I still got it, still part owner
of this business, but stepped out and arranged, made an

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arrangement with my business partner of a silent partner.
But it was a case of literally juggling this life where it was
like, you know, you're being a clown on stage and then you come
back Monday and you're trying tobe this like, Stern CEO and be
like, yeah, so everyone take me seriously.
I didn't wear a dress on the weekend on stage.
And that wasn't, you know, it wasn't me.

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It was. And people were like recognizing
me in meetings or, you know, like, they'd be looking at me
like this guy as the. I saw your show on the weekend
as it started to get a bit much.So we had to, you know.
Pick a side like a kid sort of got to pick a sport for.
You. What were you doing?
I was a hooker. Hi Paige, you know we had the

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highest played in Australia on the show once.
Shout out for the Arthur X Hale.Hooker, by the way.
It wasn't doing very well. How?
Much business. So then so so the first, so the
first. Very harsh what I said, sorry
bro. First bit of car I reckon you be
great. Thank you.
First bit of content, where doeswhere does it come from?
What's? Going on So the very first thing
that happened was one day I'll Idid a video on on social and I

(14:09):
just put on Facebook and it was you know, it was a annoying
friends in cars video. No, sorry, it was a thank you
wife. I didn't get a thank you wife.
I just put this rant out on Facebook.
And so you just felt motivated my friends and family like I.
Went fucking, I just did fuckingthis rant and I just put it out
in the world. Yeah.
And then all of a sudden people was talking to me about this

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thing and I was like, it's interesting.
And, and then after a while I said to my brother, because I
was working with him at the timeand in his business.
So because I was in between jobs, you know, between Hooker
Ring and I was a salesperson, bythe way.
During the week, you had plenty of time.
You know, and I said, Carl, you know, let's get together, let's

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do this video, you know, in the car and, and, and then we, he,
he will, he's got a, he's got a good eye in editing and tweaking
and doing things like that, you know, and so one day, guys,
seriously, we just went to his house.
We got a camera. We had Michael, who was one of

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the previous members. He was, he was, he was living
with me and my business partner at the time.
That's right here. And we literally just got the
the phone with blue tack and putit on the dash and just drove
around. Just drove around.
Blue tack on the dash. That's Dash.
Epic. And drove around and laughed and
had a good time. And we just said to Michael,
just sit in the back and be thatdumb friend that everyone's got,

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you know? Yeah.
And that was it. And then we added it up, we put
it out and we got a little bit of love on it.
And then we did a few more of those.
And then Andrew has been a friend of ours for 30 years,
family friend. And then we went to school
together and we're in the same year, same class, and we're best
mates at school. And Carla's like 3 years younger

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than us so. And basically chimed in and
said, oh, this is some funny shit.
And then he messaged Carlo, yeah, he messaged me saying,
this is some funny shit. I'd love to, you know, I'd love
to get involved. Just a throwaway comment, right?
And I remembered the days when Iwas like 9 or 8 and they were,
they were 13 and I was nine. Yeah.

(16:17):
Yeah, yeah. So they did, they do these,
these tape recording, Remember back in the in the day, I used
to be able to tape and tape and they used to do these voice
recordings like these stupid adsand this stuff.
And I'd be pissing myself in thecorner like like dying laughing.
So I remember those days. I'm like, man, come in.
Like when I was a kid he was oneof the funniest guys I I could

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imagine. He's really shit now.
But I was waiting. What's happened?
I was waiting. For it I was waiting.
For it, no. That's fine.
These these are these are staplejokes that we all we all no, all
approved, but no, he and then hehe, he messaged and I said man,
100%. I said I sent a message to my
brother, said Andrew wants to get involved.

(17:00):
Let's do a video. He's At this point you're just
having fun. That's not having.
Fun. Or were you thinking?
Were you thinking? That OK, so this is what
anything like that. This is what happened.
This is what happened when we got together, we started doing
these videos. We were having a ball, all
right. We were going to his factory at
the time and filming there. And we would laugh so much that
we put the bloopers at the end of the videos, right?

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People were loving the bloopers more than they're loving the
actual video. And we used to laugh, laugh,
laugh. And then we did we did a vox pop
thing for the log on St. Fester.
And I said, I was saying to my brother and Carlo and I said we,
we reckon, we thought, we reckonwe could, you know, maybe go
around and go to other festers and film some stuff and they

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might give us 1000 bucks. Or people, people will book us
for events or we could get on stage and do our own show.
Because in the comments in the videos, we started saying you
guys are going to do a show and we're like, do a show.
Yeah. OK, well, let's, let's, how do
you do that? How do we, how do we, how do we
put that stuff together, you know?
This is what we're about to findout, hopefully, but I.
Don't understand him fucking andwho's gonna get was four of us.

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Yeah, who's gonna? Pay for four dumb logs just to
do and show Boyd write my words.We gave him that for at least
five years because every time wedid the rod lever, no.
Can we, can you break that down then, right?
Because so like you said, like you're blowing your own selves

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away with the show. So how how do you go from online
and bridge that gap, right? You're saying you're making
these videos all the way back then we have to.
Give a long story. We have to give kudos to we got.
Someone approach you We got. A phone call.
I've got a I've got a message from Nick Jianopoulos.
Oh yeah, of course. The The Walk Boy.
Original, yeah. The original Walk boy OG and he

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sent me a message and he said let's catch up for a coffee.
So at that point, me and the guys had done a bunch of videos.
We've done the Greeks versus Italians Part 1 to 3, like the
Godfather three parts. Yeah.
And and then we did a we done a couple other videos and then the
ethnic dads were born. And then so he sent me a message
and he said let's catch up for coffee.
So prior to that, we had startedwriting down ideas for skits

(19:13):
that we were going to do in a show.
So we would we had show in mind.We're like, OK, we're going to
do our own show. We're going to do our own show,
and then we get this message. And thank God that happened,
because it would have. Been, yeah, kind of manifesting,
kind of like preparation, met like opportunity almost. 100%
that's exactly what happened. Because.
Because. We didn't have no stage manager,
no. Lighting we don't need.

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We had. It though, I just thought you'd
turn up with the microphone and just and.
And Nick's the season veteran. He's the he's the OG.
He's the guy that started the the walk humor on on stage and
turned it into like it's a proper production.
Like there's, there's shows out there and you know, to different
levels. But Nick showed us
systematically how to put together a great show, skit,

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skit song, how to get the audience energy going, you know,
up a level, how to deliver a punchline, how to wait to make
them laugh, how to project, how to look at everyone in the
audience, how to stand, how not to mask.
Fuck a lot, man. And he told us like, it was
literally on the job sort of experience as we went along.
So we were just soaking. All is that because like you
guys didn't start running arounddoing little shows right like

(20:22):
by? The no.
We went straight into a. 1000 that's what I mean by the time
you guys sort of just went bang and you're you're on so.
When Nick said when I sat down with Nick.
So I went on my own and. Was fucking in Bali again.
He was now in Bali again. No.
Well, the boys was still in their businesses, you know.
So. So I stepped out of what in this
whatever job that I was doing, Istepped out early and I was sort

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of doing all the admin running around doing.
I was doing the deals, I was trying to connect things and
stuff like that and Nick sort ofsat down and said let's let's
and then we sat down. Well, I said, OK, So what video
do you want to do? He goes, no, I don't want to do
a video because I want to do a show with you guys.
So a. Little bit of peace, the vom
trickling down his leg. I just vomited.

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I just went. So what show are you?
Thinking of doing. Because I used to love those
shows mate. Acropolis now and.
Yeah, same shame grew up on. It I used to look at that and
go, I'd love to do that, you know?
So when he said that, I was freaking out.
So I rang the boys and the boys were like, calm down.
We're going to see what the dealis first.

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We're going to see what's going on.
And I was like, all right, cool,I'll calm down.
And then like, like what my brother said, Nick is just, he's
unbelievable. Yeah.
We got you got to give props to go look, we were green.
We had no experience in this like when you understood humor
in comedy the way we understood it, but not on stayed not on
that kind of level. He took four guys in who had no

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experience, gave us 3 1/2, I think 4 weeks of just training
or training or just learn your lines.
Rehearsal. Rehearsal.
We So were you writing? Were you writing on?
Your own first show? No.
No, he wrote the first show. So he'd get little, he wrote the
show, but he'd get little punch lines from our videos that were
popular and he'd put them in there and, you know, we.
He'd work into your characters and stuff.

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Yeah, like when we got on stage we'd find little bits, remember
we would sort of ad libbing and like that work to leave it in,
but in the. First show the first.
I don't think any of our characters were in it.
No, there was no dads. No, no, there was the mum, I
think the mums. Were in what?
What was it like? What was that P&G?
Was in it, P&G were in there, sorry.
Was that the first experience, trying to act out someone else's

(22:30):
idea? You know what I mean?
Because I feel like, correct me if I'm wrong, but a lot of the
stuff that you guys did early would have been a lot of ad
living. You know, you're driving around,
you spend yourselves having a laugh, and then all of a sudden
it becomes this is a script and you've got to, you know, it's a
system to turn it into a joke. It was.
Yeah. What was that like?
It's. It's, it's a completely
different experience because like you said, you cause it's so

(22:52):
scripted and you have to worry about where you're standing and
how you deliver. And if you deliver too much,
you're going to screw someone else.
If you don't deliver the line right, you're not going to set
up his joke properly. It was a whole learning process
for us to work out how to make that work, how to make the
timing work and respect each other's time on stages, all this
kind of stuff. It sounds a bit like wishy
washy, but it's really it's whatmakes a show a really good show

(23:14):
is your sense of timing, how yourelate to the other people on
stage, how you respect their time and also how you try and
help they sharpen their stuff. So if the he's delivering it, if
it's delivering a line, you can just stand there like that and
wait for him to finish or you can get involved in and it makes
everything and and and that was something that that again, props

(23:35):
to to Nick. His attention to detail is is
unbelievable and he really showed.
Us away, you know, so I rememberhe used to I was lucky enough in
the first year to do he has. He used to do these cleaning
ladies. Now he's done.
He's done it for fucking 40 years.
There's two cleaning ladies and I was one have lucky enough to
be one of the cleaning ladies for one of the in the show.

(23:56):
And so I learned a lot of him then and now I do a still do it
now. Like if he says a line that's
and it's whatever. It's the reaction that helps the
line and helps the joke and everything helps all together.
But the biggest thing you toys. You need a stage manager, need a
lighting manager, you need a sound guy, you need a crew, you
need all this sort of stuff and everything has to be sharp,

(24:17):
quick Polish, change, make it clean on the on the screen.
The lighting's got to be great. Everything has to be great as
opposed to just a wishy washy show.
The three of you is up there andthe duty in the booth in the
corner sort of thing. Look, sorry, this is all all
props to Nick. Like I said, we, we never, never
turn their backs on. Nicky helped us in the beginning
and everything. But you also, then you establish

(24:39):
a flavour of your own, your own kind of style.
And it's true. Like over the time, over the
years now, we've developed our own kind of flavour and our own
well. We, we just you're spot on edge.
We we just saw, saw how, how, how were you supposed to do it
or how it's supposed to be done.And then I guess the the baton
was handed over and then we justsort of went, all right, well,

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let's take it to another level again.
It's funny, he said to us once, he said, because Nick had been
doing shows for like 30 years, right?
And he'd been casting people in his shows, comedians.
Yeah. And he said, you guys are the
1st in 30 years of all the people that have been in my
shows. You guys are the first people

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that saw what I did, took it, ran with it and did your own
thing. And.
And exceeded level. To a level, you know, And he was
very complimentary of that. And it was like, man, we'll
always tip a hat to him because we still run it now.
Even from from rehearsal to the end of the show is structured
like. The way he taught you guys, so.

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So he did The One Show. So he helped you write.
One you show we did the we did. We did 40 shows of that first
show. 40 shows. Yeah.
And that was our. That was our.
Just. Amazing.
Our debut that sort of went in, and that first show was
hilarious. Yeah.
I mean, it was like it went for so long.
It just, you know, because we were just so long and delivering
shit, throwing it slow. It was funny.

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But we got at the end of the show, man, we were so wrapped
the first time because you know,we did 4 weeks rehearsal and
we're like, and at the end of the ship, we're so nervous at
the end of the show, we're jumping.
Around like yeah, yeah, we. Thought we killed it You.
Know and nick nick looked at us and.
Went cool boys, cool you got a lot.
You got a lot of work. Where was it?
Which venue was it? Where was it?
Was it in Melbourne? Melbourne.
Theater Is it the? Anthony Theater.

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Yeah, two shows together and then what?
In 20/18/2018 we did Star Wars with Nick and Mary Coustas
Effie. Yeah, yeah.
Right. And Nick said go and write me 3
scripts, 3 skits. So we went and wrote 3 skits.
So we wrote 3 skits they smashed, you know that we were

(26:47):
just well received and and then from there we did our first 50
Shades of ethnic. So I was literally like steps.
It was like, OK, he wrote the script.
OK, now you're going to write the script.
Write your own show. Arenas sort of has been a
gradual sort of. So now when we talk about
arenas, we're like, because I don't think, I mean, I don't

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look, I'm not, we're not saying Nick, Nick and his and his crew
couldn't have done arenas back in the day.
I easily could have. They they, they, they just
didn't for whatever reason. I like they like the theatre
show, show and that's it. Like there's no one in Australia
in anything selling out arenas really.
You know what I mean? You call Baron.
Well, Carl, well, Carl, he's a very fucking yeah.

(27:28):
He's a leg. Like Carl?
Yeah, same here. Absolutely my.
Favorite top three? Yeah, top three.
I watch him all the time. I've got all all his specials.
His manager ones, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But do you know what I mean? Like there's very not even just
in comedy. I just mean just in general.
Yes, musical. Acts and stuff, yeah.
It's not like people are lining up.
Aussies are lining up, selling out Rod Laver Arena or any

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arena. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys are
in? Yeah, in the comedy space in
somewhere around the country. Yeah, so we thought, let's,
let's try. And if we're going to do an
arena, let's make it like a KISSconcert, you know?
That's the thing when you if it,there's two different things.
The theatre, the way you presenta show in a theatre is one way
and it's a little bit more intimate.
It's a little bit more, you know, subdued.

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But then when you feel that big space, you've got to, you've got
to crank it. It's more theatric.
Fire screens and sparklers. There's a delay in the reaction
from the crowd as well with the laughs and stuff.
Is that an issue? Wait a bit longer.
It's just you've got to feel this space.
So it's two different. We get people coming to a
theatre and the arena because it's two different.
Someone on the weekend said to us, he goes, mate, I went to

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your arena and one because I'm going to come.
Where were we in Bendigo? Bendigo, he goes, I'm coming to
the arena as well because he goes, I went last time he goes.
It's just it's it's unreal. You know, it's two different
feelings. But yeah, I mean, which one do
you prefer? Yeah, which one?
I like, I like both. After doing these, we went back

(28:51):
to theaters. We've started doing theaters in
the rural runs. I like both.
I like that tight space. But then then I get in the
arena, it's just like, oh shit. It's sort of, it's two different
experience, like even on stage it's 2 completely different
experiences in a theatre. You get a nice punt, like a nice
thousand seater theatre. The acoustics are great, the
laughs come straight at you. It feels you feeling with your

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backs up there because it feels like you're performing and
they're just sitting on you on your lap.
You know, there's laughters hitting you in the face and then
you go to an arena and the laughs are huge, but they're
coming from everywhere and they're kind of coming delayed.
They're delayed like a bit. Of a rock star up there.
So it's too I prefer the arenas just because every time I
perform an arena, it's like whenevery time I perform an arena,

(29:36):
it's like, when's the next time?I keep thinking when will be the
next time I'll be able to do another one of these, You know,
like the theaters. Like, don't get me wrong, it's
an unbelievable privilege to do any room, but to be honest, in
an arena was thousands of peoplethat.
Cheering. No, that's that's a special.
Feeling you know. Boys, the business side of it,
you know, talking about arenas, talking about stage crew,

(29:58):
managers, light sound, all that sort of stuff, like is it a big
investment to invest in that hopefully we sell some tickets
or do we sell some tickets then you piece them together like
what's the business side of it? The first show we did, which was
50 Shades of Ethnic Solo, you know, we put down the deposits
for all the, the venues and you know, we, we, we paid for all

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the lighting and the stage managers and all this kind of
stuff. The, when we jumped into the
arenas, we have Ted Dainty, TG Dainty, they're our touring
partner. They do all that part.
But we've still got the, the lighting, we've still got the
sound, we've still got the stagemanager and bits and pieces.
So it's not as big of an investment.

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So it's not yeah. We could, we could go with them
and they could find us a lighting guy and a sound guy and
a stage manager and an assistantstage manager.
They can find it all. That could cover it all, but
because we're a bit anal. Yeah, of course.
We just pay a bit extra and we pay for it.
Have full control we've. Got full control of it and we

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know the same guy is going to beworking on the show the whole
time. Consistent.
It's. Consistent.
There's nothing going to fuck upfor the person who's spending
their hard earned, you know whatI mean, to come watch it and
they're gonna fucking get a different.
Experience. So sounds like that care factor
would go a long way as well. You guys are running around
expecting people to love it. You guys are making sure?

(31:24):
Yeah, 1 percenters, Yeah. For us, is everything like
everything like It could be the tablecloth we use, the chair we
decide to put. On the encyclopedia is up on
your top fucking shelf. You think I didn't notice them?
There you go. I fucking grew up with the same
set man. Botanic is.
There you go. That's and that pause the video

(31:46):
and went. Yeah.
I get them for. Me yeah, mate, but that but that
that see that is A1 percenter we've got a house in Avondale
that we we do all that content in we decorated it down to the.
Fucking brilliant. What's in the Heights?
Yeah, mate, Few. Brickies around there you.
Know the the the the the yellow.Yellow stained glass, that was.

(32:09):
The doors to my shit. Like.
I'll give you an idea when we did, we did this video once and
we're like, all we had to do waswalk past the camera with the in
front of the kitchen and there'sa kitchen bench there.
So we're like, OK, we could walkthrough or we could dress up
the, the table and put some little intricate bits of things

(32:29):
that people might relate to, youknow what I mean?
So we put the pasta, daughter bread, put the knife in the
right spot, the salt, the salt, the sacks of salt and people
like, oh, the sacks of salt. It's, it's these little things
that people got and, and, and itmatters so much.
It's it a lot of people miss that.
A lot of people miss those one percenters.
You know what I mean? They don't, they're like, oh,

(32:49):
that'll be right. Like when we when we first shot.
She'll be right. She'll.
Be right. Any kids are like top, like up
on the top shelf, right up the top left end.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's, that's all you know, it's all sort of thawed out when
we first did the ethnic dad characters, we went to his
factory and we just threw, we threw together, yeah, we still
got that somewhat shot. We threw together like a just a

(33:12):
crappy outfit and just we just didn't look good.
The environment didn't look goodbecause it was in his in his
warehouse and and we look back at it and we're like, no, like
we could have put that out. Honestly, if we had to put that
video out, we probably wouldn't be sitting here today.
Yeah, yeah, by 100% actually. You know what we we're?
Almost playing that. What do you mean?
I think? That's almost more.

(33:32):
Important. What was that?
Yeah, explain that. So if you're saying if you did,
you nearly didn't put it out. Yep.
And if you didn't put it out, then you're not sitting here
today just. Wouldn't have been that that
video would never have exploded to the level that the the video
where we where we were meticulous in what we.
Got what we wore. It was never.
As good, it was never as good. And we could have just gone, you

(33:53):
know what? Fucking just.
Just Chuck it out. What made you do that though?
What? Why didn't you put that out?
Shit, just you guys just stuck and looked at it when we can do
better than that. And I look at some content now
online. I'm like, the idea is there, but
the the execution isn't. It's like you're not going to be
remembered. That video is going to go away
and no one's going to remember that video.
No one's going. To go.

(34:13):
There's the lesson. There's the.
Lesson right I mean I'm Sydney is about to take a note.
You spot on. I think we've just unpacked the
secret sauce of you guys and it's the details right, because
and it's the fucking if you go downstairs and if you and you
walk into our office it's painted on the wall.
It says execution is all that matters, right?
100% I reckon you spot on. I'm just thinking about your
brand, thinking about all your videos and thinking it's all the

(34:35):
details and the it's the execution.
Hitting it everywhere. Hitting it everywhere, Yeah.
And it's authentic because it's authentic all the way through.
Yeah, honestly, yeah. Yeah, hard work.
Hey, everyone says it. Your hard work, yeah.
It's a lot harder to to dial in every little detail.
Every detail, everything, every edit.
It takes take another half a half a day to go and get the

(34:56):
stuff you need to put in the background for the video, like
so or whatever it is, and peoplewon't do that.
OK, You're gonna pay the price somewhere down the line.
You're gonna pay the price because you didn't.
You didn't do it. You can go.
Yeah, I'll just put it out, see what happens.
Or you could do. I'm leaving no stone unturned.
How you do anything is how you do everything.
That's right, but sometimes you gotta over invest too and, and
hopefully it pays off like some of the early vids when we

(35:18):
weren't making any money. Yeah, it was just just for fun.
When we're building it, some experimenting things, we'd go to
a costume hire place and spend thousands of dollars.
On costumes, well, like. Literally, literally on skit I
think we spent. Well, three grand or something.
That skit there is the skit thatNick Gianopoulos.
Saw we we went. We went and we didn't spend the

(35:39):
fucking money. So if you don't spend the money
and back yourself in, Nick doesn't see and you're not on
stage. Yeah, Nick said.
I didn't see anyone work that hard.
Yeah. That's.
Crazy. Yeah.
And that didn't that did OK, butit wasn't the most successful
video. But it paid back in another way
in that someone picked up and went, oh, that guy, those guys
went to the extra effort to do that.
I know how much it cost to do orthat how much effort.

(35:59):
Someone with a keen eye, a learned eye goes these boys are
having a. They're not just.
Doing it and you know, the lady that we hired the, the, the the
costumes of this was a this was a pinch pinch me moment we went
in there 3 unknowns were pickingout all these, these these
costumes. It's gonna end up costing 3800
bucks. Remember stupid like something
like that. Anyway, she's like, oh good.

(36:20):
Yeah, we're like we're doing a video.
She's like, oh cool, yeah, bit bit whatever.
Say just return them in a week, fuse down the track, meet and
greets at one of our show and her and her husband.
She hired you the first ever costumes.
I was like, what? You owe me to fuck.
That how do we we were hiring the thing you didn't and now
you're here meet and greeting you're like.
Yeah, that was. Crazy.

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It was just a bit of a. Hey boys, with the economics
going back to the economics again, at what point were you,
how did you figure out how to make money?
Because I didn't imagine when you're saying you sat in the
car, you got your mate in the back, you're saying just act
down and you're putting these videos out.
How did you start to work out how to monetize I?
Remember, because I, I got out first and the boys were still

(37:04):
with their businesses. I remember I was sort of, we, we
just thought and I was like, we're going to try and make a
few dollars. So we started, we started going
to businesses like for example, OK, Royal Stacks, the burger
joint. Hold on, explain that.
We weren't going there. We'd get messages on the page.
Would you like to do? Yeah, yeah.
But yeah. But some we were knocking on

(37:25):
people's doors, going, hey, do you want us to do a video?
For some, some, some I did some I did sort of approach and say
and say this, and we're doing this 'cause I, if I knew them,
for example, or some, some I'm talking about Ember, Ember
honeydew royal stacks with the blue yogurt.
Yeah, we, we, we went around to these places and then and I used
to know some of these people andsay we can come to you, give us

(37:47):
2, two or three grand and we'll come and do a video again, Box
Poppy sort of style put on our page, people come to your place.
So I was selling sort of like advertisement.
Advertise deals. Yeah, you know, brand deals and
we're getting a couple grand here, a couple grand here, a
couple grand there. And then from that Lamanna
Direct saw it and they contactedus and said can you come and do

(38:12):
a video at our place? So we did ethnic mums at the
supermarket and they pay this whatever, however much money it
was, right? Not that much, but it was
whatever. Then then from that video,
Chemist Warehouse saw that video.
So then Chemist Warehouse messaged and said we love what
you did with the Lamanna video. Can you guys come and do a video

(38:33):
for Chemist Warehouse? So that's how the Chemist
Warehouse relationship started. Each one started to see you're.
Proving the concept, they started to go and we put.
These I see the angle there, well, they see the.
Execution too. Yeah, they're looking at the
execution going. These boys are doing it
differently. Yeah, so, so, so we that that's
the that was the economics to start.
It was like, let's go and do these little things.
Then these little things became like, well, draw drew attention

(38:57):
to these bigger things. And then from from Chemist
Warehouse, that's when we started doing the shows and some
economics was there. But brand deals have gone from.
Brand deals. From that yeah to now, you know,
again, it's, it's as you, you, you get bigger and your platform
gets bigger and your audience gets bigger, it becomes more,

(39:18):
more and more lucrative. So as we kept growing, they were
like, OK, we're not charging that anymore.
We're charging. Which are you boys?
Were you boys making it up because you didn't have
managers? So you and you didn't have
anyone telling you, so you just we.
We had a fucking number there. What was your name again?
What was her name? What was he?
What was? Her name?
Josie. I think I was sorry.
Josie. Where's Josie?
Josie. Josie.

(39:39):
Josie. Yeah.
We. Had a major we were.
Just making it up. We were just making it up a
number and. They take it, you go, oh fuck,
they'll be quick on that one. We'll go behind it.
If we can do, I was like, if we can do ten of these and my
background was in advertising. I was in sales, Herald Sun,
Yellow Pages, those sort of. So I was like, OK, I know how

(40:01):
much they sort of pay for an ad or this that the other.
What about if we can give them an ad and give them this many
eyeballs, we can sort of say instead of paying 10 grand, pay
2 grand and you know, it'll workout better for you and yada,
yada, yada. And then they the good thing is
that were sort of fans anyway. So it worked.
And then then like I said, so just sort of kept on.

(40:22):
Growing and kept on bouncing andwe kept on growing and then the
ads kept on growing and then we did 2 Peanut Sylvester ads.
Peanut Sylvester is an old aftershave that might our
parents used to wear with Chemist Warehouse.
It's just perfect. Isn't it was it was perfect.
So I brought that back. And so relationships were built
and then things kept on growing and then.

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Yeah, that's any other business.Just I mean, you don't start at
the top, not I'm not saying you don't start up here.
You start down here and you sortof things happen, you make some
mistakes. You Luckily we didn't make a
great deal of really anything inreal bad.
Move not not bad moves, some aremore.
Fruitful than others, but yeah. We didn't make bad moves, but
you make sort of like you learn from moves which you could have

(41:03):
done better. Yeah, absolutely.
And I think. In the beginning that we didn't
really need capital, it was justtime.
Yeah, this investment of time, yeah, going around editing.
He was doing the editing. You were doing the editing.
I was doing, I started, I still do a lot of the editing.
And then Carlos, he was or is he's, he's that .5 of a second
point. Three.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a jumped.
Out. He's amazing.

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So we were still editing quite alot and and sort of came in do
some editing too. So we and we still do it.
Today. Oh, that's crazy.
So you guys still you're sort ofyou're in there in.
Yeah, Yeah. I think that's a control.
Thing No, no, I think no, it's not it's just again it's
execution man, do you know what I mean like we.
Lift it to people sometimes and then like it comes back and it's
like it's not funny. You need to you need to let that

(41:45):
out a little bit more. You need to cut there.
It's funnier. It's all in the edit, the
comedy, you know, comedy movie. When you watch it and someone
falls, it's like it could ratherbe, you know, cut it half a
second earlier or half a second later.
It's like, Oh no, that half a second made it not funny.
Yeah, but everyone's got their own style, so I mean, the way
someone else envisions the humoris different to the way you do,

(42:06):
so you really got to be over that, I think, if everything,
no. One cares as much as as the
people doing. It.
Yeah, yeah, exactly right. So like you said, you guys have
just been growing, growing, growing.
But I feel like in a space that people come and go from your
space, you know, people, they come, they try.
You guys just going on this? Trend and as well.

(42:26):
You know, and and still trying to stay relevant, keep keep
evolving the humor things like Andrew saying before it was the
ethnic sort of humor and now it's just back to humor.
Like is that is that all strategic and you know, trying
to follow, follow the scent? To reinvent yourselves before.
About people coming and going, Imean people just, it's how much

(42:46):
can you put into this before youstart going?
Well, I'm better off working somewhere else.
I'm not making enough money. So it's got to be returned.
So a lot of people, there's a lot of really talented people
that don't make it or that don'tget the financial reward for
what they can give. And that comes down to a lot of
factors who their management is,what they're trying to do, how
much effort they're actually howmuch they, there's a lot of

(43:07):
factors. There's not just I mean, there's
a never ending list of that, butsecondary to that, it's like,
well, you know, you we. Just got to keep.
Reinventing and rethinking what you do.
You can't do the same thing forever.
You could do a version of the same thing, but it has to keep
evolving. I mean, when you started
building the apartments, how long ago?

(43:29):
Probably 1010. You're building different
apartments now. They're apartments, but they're
different apartments. Yeah.
The character evolves. Everything evolves.
And so does this. You got to keep sort of, and
this is one of the things that we progress as color is like a
big stipple for this. You got to keep never do the
same thing. The joke has to be different.
The environment has to be different and it works.
You've just got to keep pushing the envelope and finding new

(43:51):
ways and look, it's only this like comedy is 1A pool of
information, right? There's any that much you don't
invent new comedy. Comedy is just there.
It's already been done right andit's just got to find a new way
of saying, how do I now put present this in a new way?
And then you get a topical themecomes through.
So something happens, Trump or whatever that on the comedy, all

(44:12):
the comedians jump on that bandwagon.
But it's all comedy, comedy's comedy.
Just got to find a fresh way of of delivering it and keeping
people engaged and being true and authentic to yourself.
I think one of the things I'd like to ask myself is how do you
create a legacy? So if we're in the, how do you
create a legacy? How does your business create?

(44:34):
How do we? And so when I look at what we're
doing, it's like staying relevant is one thing or are we
going to create a legacy? So do we want to stay relevant
or do we want to create a legacy?
I personally, we want to create a legacy.
So any move that we make has to be towards a legacy.
So we're always thinking 2 years, three years ahead, OK,

(44:59):
we're going to do these shows. What's after the shows?
What are we going to do for thatyear?
And then what's going to happen after that?
Then then the audience is going to feel like they've missed us
and then we're going to want us more.
Then we're going to go away. Then we're going to come back
and then we're going to make a restaurant, then going to make
another restaurant. And then our faces are going to
be there. And so it's more about creating,
creating a legacy rather than staying relevant.

(45:19):
Yeah, that's that's the way I. Mean, you know, I mean people we
call it the infinite game yeah. So always like not thinking of
just now, but making decisions like you said for the for the
future something. Bigger than yourself.
Yeah. Yeah, How we, how we gonna be
perceived into what are we gonnabe in 10 years?
What are we gonna be when these characters are the same age as
us, but they're still the characters?

(45:41):
So by that I. Couldn't have thought of that.
By that you're. Actually going to be that old,
aren't you? And then that's the difference
between someone who comes in andgoes, I'm just going to sling a
few jokes. It's like you have to think
about how the audience is going to perceive you now 5 and 10
years from now in what we do. And in 10 years, you know,
hopefully we've got the plan that we've got sees that this is

(46:04):
becoming a legacy. It's becoming something that
three other guys could probably jump in our spots and dress the
way we dress and go, oh, that's Johnny.
That's Johnny. Yeah, because what you've done
is so strong. Yeah, it's last bigger because
like Dame Edna, Yeah. Yeah.
And not being funny, that's, youknow, like you don't need me to
fucking tell you, but I feel like you guys are 100 miles an

(46:24):
hour going in that. Direction.
Oh look, I don't. And that's we're trying to and,
and the yardstick for that was, which is what I was dribbling on
about before is like, there's noone else selling out these
arenas, you know what I mean? And there's a reason.
And I think that's I think. That we don't take it for
granted. We're very, we're very humbled
by it always. And, you know, we know we can go
either way, but we'll do it whatever we can to, to, to stay,

(46:47):
to stay there. And, and you know, we don't ever
say we're anywhere like the people that we looked up to is
like, again, the three Marx brothers and Laurel and Hardy's
and people like that, the three Stooges.
You know, we would only pray that we could be 1/4 of what
they are. If we do that, then we've done
our job, you know, in the futureso.

(47:08):
Boys talk. You're talking about staying
fresh, reinventing. How do you guys do that?
You know, do you sit in A room darkroom and figure shit out?
Have you got a war room where you've got whiteboards?
Do you do you, do you employ people or or it sounds like it
sounds like you creative processyou keep it yourself.
You're. Gonna start employing people to
be honest. We've got to do a video so you

(47:29):
all meet in your joint, everyone.
Wants the job as a writer please.
Go jump to jump down in the comments and and put some.
Skits, where's my camera? Send your message.
In no we we, we write everythingourselves.
We, we in the shows anyway, we write all ourselves.
And that's just the war room, man.
Just, you know, getting in there, putting, checking some

(47:53):
ideas on paper. You have to force yourself
though. Do you know what I mean?
Like, is it because I imagine back in the day it sounded like
it was fun? You go to the factory, you have
a fucking laugh, you cut up and you end up with a video it.
Is a bit more like. A job?
Is it more like a job now where you go 25 boys?
We're doing this video, We're going to meet it back in this
joint, and we're going to stay in the room until we figure out
where we're taking it. I mean, it's, it's a little bit

(48:14):
like like that. But on the other hand, it's, I
think what makes it feel that way is that we actually there's
pressure to make a quality product every time you you can't
put it. That's your boys.
So you got to put it on yourselfto say this isn't all right old.
If that's not good enough, Joe, if that's not good enough and
tell me that, we'd say, look, that's that's not going to cut.

(48:37):
That joke's not gonna work. And sometimes we punch on, but
it's what it is. That's bullshit.
Could have a couple of shit jokes.
They haven't said fucking anything.
Alright, that's all bullshit. Fuck.
You write most of the time with that, sorry to cut you off, or
you write mostly like when you instincts, the three of you,
when you sit there and you go fucking, that ain't gonna work,
man, I reckon. Would you say you write most of?
The time go to it's, I'm gonna say 80% you're.

(48:58):
Gonna say 70, OK yeah, 70 to 80 percent, 80% and then you got
that 2030% like I thought that was gonna hit yeah, hit on stage
when you got this thing and you're like.
I'm going to nail that's. Like, no.
All right. Do you watch Kill Tony?
Have you ever seen Kill Tony? That Kill Tony is that comedy
podcast where they pull them outof the bucket and they do a

(49:19):
minute. It's exactly that.
They get up there ready with their material and then there's
nothing. That's, that's, that's a fight.
Look, it doesn't matter now because now, like we've done a
couple of times on stage in previous shows where you say you
really think these things are locked out.
You really go, I can't wait to, and then you go to the crowd
that was a shit to joke and theylaugh at that anyway.

(49:39):
And he just cut for the next show.
Sometimes this exact same joke work in one room delivered the
same way, but not. This just just yesterday saying
that every audience has their own personality.
Yeah, every single one. Yeah, the jokes were still hit
and they will still laugh. But then, for some reason, the
night before, in a different town, they laughed harder.

(50:01):
Yeah, yeah, it was like at. The exactly and you could say
exactly the same way. Yeah, I reckon 30% of the jokes
that happens to where it's like based on night tonight, it's
going to be loud, it's going to be softer.
Then you've got maybe another 40% that hit the same all the
time. Yeah, but you're like, that's a
big laugh you got. It's the mid tier will either be

(50:23):
high or lower and then you've got your 20%.
It's like it's I know they're your fillers.
I. Know you got one or two.
You think fuck I don't even wantto say this.
Yeah, yeah, I got a couple of those.
In the first joke of the of the show, if he doesn't get a big
laugh on his first joke, I know they're going to be a.
I know a little. Barometer.
Hail audience you've. Got jokes and you open up

(50:45):
because. You know where they should be,
no? No, because a shit joke and if
it's good. Not even that.
No, I just know that if he is, if you're 1 about the thing, if
that doesn't get the the big a big laugh, I'm like, OK.
You an idea it'd. Be like.
Sometimes they get better look, sometimes they've been on the.
Yeah, that can tell. Yeah.

(51:06):
And, and, and they get better. Sometimes they're sleepy because
it's a Late Show or whatever. It just all depends.
And, and, and like, it's, it's like, you know, when you're
sitting in a room of full of strangers, OK, sometimes
there'll be a larrikin in the crowd.
He'll, he'll let let loose and he'll give permission to
everyone else to let loose. But sometimes it's a very
reserved audience there. There's, there's known as, and

(51:26):
known as in the, in the audiencewith their grandkids and
whatever. And so they're a bit more
reserved. So they're laughing, but they're
not letting. There was one loose, you know,
they're not letting go there. Was one I remember just one of
the recent shows we did over. I caught this lady laughing, but
she was kind of like she was trying not to laugh loud, so she

(51:47):
was dying. I caught her.
She was on the edge. I was like holding it in.
Holding it in doing. This stuff and that's that is a
repercussion of the audience andwhat the audience.
Doesn't feel comfortable to let herself go.
That's. Right.
Yeah, that's right. So you, so you like, if, if
you've got everyone letting loose, she'll let loose.
But if, if five people in the front are letting loose and five

(52:08):
people aren't, well, you've got 5050.
If you've got 7, then those seven will influence the other
three and you've got 10. It's literally.
And then they become, they have their own heartbeat and their
own thing. And you're like, it's you can
tell very early on what? What's going to be like, you
know? Seinfeld once said as well.
Because when I met him. You're mate, you're tired mate.

(52:28):
When you were hanging out. No, that's not.
He did say once that comedy if you if the audience is in a
room, it's too hot, it's no good.
If they're in a room, it's too cold, it's no good.
They have to be comfortable withno distractions because they've
got to listen and focus on everything you're saying because
if they miss one thing, gone. I've got a question.

(52:51):
When Andrew comes out and does his first joke, can he affect
it? So you obviously the room,
right? The room can sort of be.
Ready. And you didn't know that?
Brother, what if what if the room immediate the right
temperature? Can Andrew come in?
Maybe not hit. I'll tell you why.
Effects. Pretty much he's a robot, OK,
And he'll do the show exactly the same pretty.

(53:12):
Much tonight, Yep. Like to the point where if I
don't say a line, he'll still wait.
He'll be waiting for his spot, yeah.
He'll he'll wait there for threehours.
I fall asleep on stage. Asleep.
Everyone's backed up. He's going.
It's your line. He won't.
He won't go. Oh, he's forgotten.
I'll just do it. He'll just still be waiting.
And but he's a robot, so he'll say the line the same every

(53:38):
night. So I've got pretty much
confidence that he won't. Fuck that, I.
Think what you're asking is like, does your delivery can
that have absolutely like if you've come?
Out to show off on a bad Rd. if you if you've come out and yeah
maybe you didn't deliver every. Flat thing we're saying, but I'm
giving you a compliment. No, I, I you.
Fuck you then you. Shuck it out the front, boys.

(53:58):
Let's go. No.
No, but it's true. Yeah, I'm.
I'm a bit more playful with my stuff, like I don't like to do.
I like to check and see if I cando something better.
So even if I've. Got it.
Do you have levers to like go? They're a bit sleepy.
Oh yeah. Do that thing, boys.
We'll get them going. We.
Go pace, cover from here, pay. It's like we pace it up.
We go harder, louder. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(54:20):
You know, pace, pace. You know, if they're a little
bit because if you give them a little bit more time to sit down
to it. So we've got one of the skits we
do is fish and chip skip. That's a real pacey scene that
can you can do a little bit slower to an audience that's a
bit more receptive, but if one from.
The grandpa to the, to the there, to the there, to the
there. Yeah.
It's like it's got phones involved.
Hello. Yeah.

(54:40):
How about the fish and soups? So the faster we do it, you can
you can sort of lift them a little bit, you know?
Yeah, Yeah. Dial them in.
Dial them in a bit, wake them up.
Scoop. Them up I believe.
How, how different some audienceare, You know, it's just, it's
just we, we just saw it. We went Townsville, Cairns,
Warrnambool, Bendigo, Ballarat and we just.

(55:02):
Saw Jesus. Three different 4.
I'd say 3 because Townsville andKansas are pretty much.
The same. They're pretty much the same.
They're very. Very, very good.
They were fantastic. Like, amazing, you know, And
then the other three different towns were different.
Yeah, and not as it sounds like the the guys, guys, the girls up
the top. They were, they were great.

(55:23):
They were still great, you know,but they were just, but also.
Political of you very. We love everyone.
Yeah, yeah, of course we take all their money, but.
It's all great. It's.
All great discriminate money. No, no.
Take anyone's cash. But you gotta also think the day
of the week as well. Yeah, it's a Friday or Saturday.
So many fucking movement. Friday, Friday people would be.

(55:44):
Popping can I ask is that your favorite partner, boys?
You never started too many red start a fucking comedy career,
right? But would is that your favorite
partner doing the shows and touring and stuff?
Yeah, it's become your passion. Absolutely.
It's the, it's the started on me.
For me especially like when you asked that question before,
would we prefer to do arenas or prefer to do theaters?
I'd do this every night of the week, you know, if I do 1000

(56:09):
shows. Anywhere in a small room.
Big room. I prefer anything over 1000
seats. This year, This year it.
Stacks up pretty good. Make it.
Worthwhile. Make it worthwhile.
Boys, it would be remissive us not to unpack the ethnic dads,
right? And we go back and understand
like where that that actually started, whose idea it was when

(56:31):
you thought when you went, you went all in on it.
You said, boys, let's go all in on the ethnic dads.
This is the thing. Does that make sense And.
The characters are actual characters.
Yeah. And who are they?
Are they based on anyone? 'S and are they happy with the
way that you? Happened, we just said.
Let's let's, let's do that. Yeah, we just right.
We just said yeah. I think we're based on
something. That I saw yeah, I.
Just. Video.

(56:51):
I can't remember what video. I don't remember what video it
was, but I can't remember. Yeah.
No credit. We just thought I'm just
literally just someone saying different lines.
Yep, you know, we're like, oh, what we.
Hadn't used that format. We had never used the format.
We're like, why don't we just dolike stuff?
Our parents said as we were growing up.

(57:12):
And yeah, we just, like I said, the first time we did it, we
went to Andrew's factory. We tried it out.
It's no good. Then we went, all right, we got
to up this a notch. We said go to go back to the
house, get an outfit, put some effort into it.
Meet in a week. Meet in a week and we'll and
we'll and we'll reshoot it or like.

(57:33):
You come back with your own lines in a week, yeah.
Yeah, the lines and plus plus plus.
Alfie Plus we're doing it at hismum's house.
Which is. Yeah, it's yeah, we had, we had
an hour window. My mum was quite sick at the
time and so she was a dad. Get mum, take it to the pokies.
Yeah, get to the fuck out already 1.
Hour here 'cause. You gotta do a skid of that.
Look at the pokies. And then the walk that house, it

(57:59):
was like walking back in time it.
Was whereabouts in Bentley? Yeah, yeah, he.
Built units on it. Now and I pulled down, put units
on it. Now, you know, what are you
gonna do, man? You know?
Yeah, we are in the land, man. And it's a shame that we knocked
that place down because it was anyway and we had an hour window
and we kind of went there. And I don't know about these

(58:19):
guys, but I just raided my dad'scupboard and what fit me at the
time dad. So everything was a bit tight
and whatever put everything on and just I had a wig that I
bought for a woman character that I that that Gray wig that I
wear with Sam and she was that was supposed to be for.
A woman? I didn't know that.
Yeah, it was supposed to. Be for a woman character that I
wanted to create a few weeks before never never came.

(58:40):
I wouldn't. Character we got here, I was
gonna. Wear it backwards poop.
I was. Gonna wear it back.
I didn't even know that. Learning something new.
God. And so I was.
Put it on and we know what this will do.
And then that's just. And if I'd known, I would have
shaved because now I'm stuck with this thing forever.
Oh. Cool.
We didn't know that. They're not allowed to.
I'm stuck with this. I don't even think.
Of that, do you isn't there? That's a shave.

(59:01):
I was going through a phase. It's phases lasted 10 fucking
years. So we went in the house.
Yeah, we went in the house and we just.
So you went into your mum's house.
So I left, we had we got an hour, let's shoot this.
We shot, shot it, cut it up and put it out.
It went wild. 10 million views or whatever it did went crazy.
But when you put it out, you just put it out on your own

(59:22):
account. How many followers you got at
this point? No, not not many at this point.
Hundreds. We talked.
A hundreds. A couple of hundreds.
Maybe. Maybe a?
Couple of Well, no, it was pretty, it was.
It was not 100 and something 100and. 2016, that went out, didn't
they? Yeah.
Really. Yeah, yeah.
I, I look, I think we got a couple 100,000 followers or
something. By the back of that video.

(59:42):
Yeah, by the, by the time it wasall done, plus it was 2017, it
was a different time. The algorithm was different,
Yeah. And there's no Instagram too.
So it was, well, there was Facebook.
Yeah. Yeah, it was on Facebook.
On Facebook, Yeah. But man, we got we the the off
topic. We did.
That's all the people you're impersonating.
You're hanging. Out on Facebook, we so we did a

(01:00:02):
video recently, Christmas video,not sure if you saw it.
It's the ethnic mums. Yeah, fuck you doing Christmas.
Yeah, Christmas. Yeah, that video has had 100 and
I think close to 150 million views.
It was the Australia's largest Instagram video.
We can't find anyone else that. Lasted.
Out of Australia. Theory been on our account no

(01:00:26):
can all do joke sports but yeah carry.
On but that that video got us how many how many how many Damn
it's not look not that video. That video plus videos we
started releasing after that video in from December
1,000,000, 1.3 million on Instagram.

(01:00:46):
Because whatever, that just links up video.
Then they go to the account and then they'd watch the other.
Videos. Videos, yeah.
So you. Should and then sort of.
Compound them and then. We'd then we'd put out these new
videos and those videos were getting yeah, 304050 million.
Then another. It's just from that December
video to to, to to. Now it's, yeah, it's something
like 1.31 per crack. You know, it's that we had a.

(01:01:08):
Persistence and. A few cracks and once then then
you just hit this lightning in abottle.
Perfect storm that that mum's video that just every mum in the
world was the same a. 100% Christmas Day.
We don't have the Christmas Day ones.
Yeah, absolute fucking lutely. And then?
That's Barney Jones. Snowball effect on a bunch of
other ones then we put a couple others and like and like Carlos

(01:01:31):
said just there we there's a same reaction videos they went
berserk as well It's the. Same with the dad's video back
then. It's just like it's lightning in
a bottle. Happens.
It's and then. Yeah, but no one knew.
See, if you go back to what you're saying with Dad's video
and was saying about his beard, I went to Kmart and bought a
$7.00 pair of pyjamas. I still wear them today.
The same pyjamas. Kmart shout out.

(01:01:53):
That's work. What an investment.
What an investment, right? But now for the rest of my life,
I'm going to be in pajamas like even when we go out in shops and
stores, pointless houses, I'm always in these fucking pajamas.
And The funny thing is my mom character, he's the same.

(01:02:14):
He's. In the you guys didn't pay your
power, but the the TV went off there.
I was like, oh, these guys don'tpay their.
Can I, can I say, can we go intothe house?
Right? Yeah.
How did the house come about? Because I know you shoot the
podcast in there and you do content in there.
Pete probably looking at it because I'm pretty sure it's out

(01:02:34):
in the West. So he probably wants to flip it
or he wants to split it, but. Yeah, he's got a price on it.
Beautiful. We got a price on it.
Oh really? Is anyone living in it?
No. Did you guys buy it for the
podcast and talk to us what's going on with the?
House so we so we, we we we rentthe house out and but we don't
do the podcast. We do the podcast, right,
Listener Studios, we do the IT looks like.

(01:02:54):
You're in the kitchen at the house sometimes when you do the
podcast. Early on, Early on, we.
Did changed it, but yeah, changed that.
But we do all all we did. We just got that for, for, for.
The for the skits and content and everything like that.
And again we all the furniture in there.
So you rented so you went out Yeah to the this is again comes
back to the execution. So anyone following along at
home, this is how you do it right mate.

(01:03:15):
So you guys have gone. Let's get a fun.
Let me tell you about the execution of.
This house, Yeah. If, if if that's what the.
Absolutely. You're over here.
We searched for this house for eight months.
We had five or six real estate agents looking for an old school

(01:03:36):
Wog palace. They'd come back, they'd show it
to us, we'd go in there and we'dlike, we'd go in the kitchen, it
looked like, and they'd put a new oven in and we're like,
where's the old oven man? And he'd be like, he'd be like,
what? What's wrong?
You don't know what you'd get, mate.
Can you get the old oven, put itin and like, no, it's gone.
Like, well, we can't take this house.

(01:03:56):
Like, OK, we go into another house.
Floorboards. Where's the carpet, man?
Oh, they just did floorboards. What do you mean and?
We're like, no, no, we need the old carpet.
Do you have the old carpet? No carpet.
Forget about it. Eight months searching high and
low. We came into this place in
Avondale. We walked in.
We're like, Oh my God, touched untouched the tiles, the carpet,

(01:04:18):
the wood grain, the yellow stained glass, the chandeliers,
everything was there. The backyard the the the the
pillars at the. Front entry, the door with the
fucking second and we're like. Fruit trees were out the.
Back fruit trees, lemons, man, there's eight different types of
fruit at the back. The patio.
We're like, this is this is it? We're like this is it.
By the way, the house is crooked, right?

(01:04:39):
So you walk in the kitchen and you're walking like that.
Then you walk like that. Stumps they'd redoing.
Stumps they'd redoing, but we don't care.
We say you know all. Those real estate agents and
things like that. My a friend of mine sent me the
house. Hey, have a look at this place.
And so again, things just happenand this house now two years.
But just happened. But again, it was the.

(01:04:59):
IT was what? You were saying it's the detail?
It's the detail. No, no, we could have.
Been just going to get a fuckinghouse.
No, even just to go and get a house and and to have the
fortitude to go, hey, let's takethis all the way.
Let's not go and build a set. Let's go get the real fucking
thing because it's been authentic the whole way through,
if you guys. And that's why it hits, I think,
because, like you said, the details matter because they're

(01:05:22):
what people resonate with. Like with me, I see the botanica
thing goes to take me back to Bandura.
Everyone gets a touch. Point in there, a touch point in
there and it's because it hasn'tbeen manufactured.
It's authentic. Cut you off now you're right.
The furniture in the house. Yes, I could.
We bought all that furniture from the.
What Boy Boy the movie? Yeah, booked you.
Did a deal with a. Guy we hadn't we hadn't had a we

(01:05:43):
didn't have a house at the time.So they we didn't bought the
furniture before we had a house that we we need all this stuff.
So what were you thinking when? What was the mindset behind
buying the house? Just what was the mindset?
One was because when and we wereshooting videos at my mum's
house, mum would go oh guys swearing man, we're shooting the

(01:06:03):
video here. So we.
Can't shoot in in a not your nice house with a nice because
it just doesn't look right, right.
So we'd try and go to my mum's or or or we'd try and get and
just because it still looked a little bit, then we.
Started spoiling her because thehouse that we had originally, he
put 2 units on right so. And filming in a new townhouse

(01:06:26):
was going to fly. Marble benches.
You can't, can't rebuild that shit either.
You walk in and smell and everything.
You can't go and do that somewhere.
So, so that's what it was. We just thought to ourselves,
let's go and get this place. It can be for shooting, it could
be potentially. To get away from your wife.

(01:06:46):
Whatever. Whatever you need it for, it's
there. We fully furnished it with all
this original furniture and it'sthere.
So whenever we're going to shootanything, it's there.
No ones there. You're not bothering anyone.
And we can, you know, we can do whatever we want there.
Have people found it? People?
Do you know what I mean 'cause I'm not?
Fucked up. What's the house number they.

(01:07:07):
All look freaking the same out there man.
How you find? House the.
Take we came. That that show, what's it
called? The Sapporo.
Daryl, yeah. You remember the house?
I feel like this house keep it long enough.
Yeah. And you keep putting out $120
million. Fuck or 120 mil video. 20
million? Excuse me?
He's gonna fucking sell for a premium.
I'll show you. I'll.
Show you everything 120 million if you want my house his.

(01:07:30):
House everything, yeah. So we've had some some.
So we did a video once about like putting a stick, like when
when the Wogs used to go over tosomeones house and no one was
there, they used to let them know they were there.
They used to put a twig or a flower or move a pot or
whatever. And the one day it's been
happening for years. Everyone does.
It's like it's just a normal thing.

(01:07:50):
Common fact, common fact. And then we we got to the house
the next week and there was a twig in the door.
It's like someones the house, someone knows what the house is
because. Knows what we know, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. You know you're not.
You know you're not. Yeah, yeah.
And there's been a there's been a Panatoni there.
You know a Panatoni is a big Muffin you.

(01:08:10):
Guys, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There, there was one of those at
the front door one day, yeah. Our next door neighbors, Joe.
No, so your neighbors know what's going on.
Yeah, yeah, well, he's a little Italian guy and he looks after
our bins. He looks after the hair like
he's too. He looks after.
You got the Greek couple across the road biscuits stuff all the
time. Put on the others, yeah.

(01:08:31):
So it's a beautiful little community out there and yeah,
we, we love it. We've shot.
We've shot TV shows there, we'veshot parts of other bits and
pieces there. It's been.
Great, that that was actually one of my questions.
I was gonna say. So normally, well, not normally.
I would think as a progression, if you guys thought like I'm
thinking like Netflix, who all these big, you know, they'd be.
Can't say too much. Rowan stuff at you.

(01:08:53):
Guys, but we're we're we're we're talking, we're talking
Netflix at the moment about not about about a our special.
Yeah, OK, so more of a comedy special than a series.
Or something like that about theshow the of the old show off the
Boat, we shot it at the Palais over 2 nights and it's like it's
a, it's a different kind of because the way we do our shows,

(01:09:13):
they're like 4 skits. So it's kind of like episodic.
It's four different episodes andwe're talking to them about
putting that on there. We'll see how that goes.
And again, we think it's a no brainer but.
That's a fucking movie for sure.Yeah, but I feel like like, you
know, you got the house and shit, then you could go do Yeah,

(01:09:35):
we. Could you could go we.
Could imagine show Mrs. Brown's Boys style sorting on the movie?
Like writing a movie? Yeah, amazing.
So we're painting a movie at themoment.
Village. Right.
Imagine that, boys. Yeah, I'm just thinking that my
mum, God bless her, used to loveMrs. Brown's boys.
Oh yeah. But imagine you boys doing that.
That's the kind of show you could do where you guys have got

(01:09:56):
the open thing live audience andyou just fucking riff and bean
yourselves and living out these.That that's the dream movie.
And then you know that that's a follow up.
But we want to do like, yeah, wewant to have multiple movies
under the. You're already on Spotify with
Was it Orchestrated and Joel, Yeah, that happened.
Mate, yeah shit. They just approached Reached.

(01:10:18):
Out Joel was it the boys orchestrated Joel Joel Joel
reached out and said look we're doing a talent Taylor song love
to have you guys involved and you know we're like fun just fun
idea fun fun stuff to do and. Did you get to any of his shows
and get up on stage or anything?Oh yeah, those boys, those boys,
they're doing. The orchestrator's finishing up
or something? Are they?

(01:10:39):
Yeah, I didn't know that they're.
Doing a big ending party or. Something they've been around
for years now. They're great boys.
Yeah. The song was great.
It was, it was. It was good to.
Yeah. And they didn't get a chance.
And that's, that's going back towhat you were saying before
about is it still fun Sometimes,man, we get and it's not so like
we're not whinging, but you get so busy with different things.

(01:11:00):
You've got to be in different certain places.
And then like when we, when we were writing this show for for
five weeks, we had to go and do an international tour.
So we did Canada, America, roll right, roll writing.
So you're going to get back and you're going to get straight
back into the writing of it. So like what Carlos said, it
becomes a job and you miss out on something sometimes, you
know? Sacrifices.

(01:11:20):
Yeah, exactly. Right.
So we haven't been the one at Job's show yet?
No, sorry. I was going to say, what about
the restaurant? Because we haven't spoken about
the restaurant. Yeah, Yeah.
No, no. Hey, boys, I've got a question.
I've got, I've got. I don't know.
This may come across as a stupidquestion, but the first thing
that came to mind with the restaurant is why the fuck is in

(01:11:41):
the cold Fucking, you know, after you boys.
And it's called Vinny. Johnny.
Yeah, Johnny, that was the firstthing that came to mind.
The branding thing, again, like the characters of the brand.
No one gives a shit about us. Yeah, right.
Like, you know, like when we went a story about.
That that's that legacy pace. Yeah, Yeah.
It's like not about you guys. It's about.
The heads up there, they're their heads, you know, that's,

(01:12:02):
that's their, it's their, their IP.
That's so good. Yeah, so.
This is the where's my camera? Yeah.
Johnny Vincent where? Did you get that by the way,
man, or what? Have you not seen?
What a coincidence you turned up.
Was that T? Oh no.
No, but that's yeah again. Like so it's a no brain is no
go. So yeah.

(01:12:23):
That's that's their the IP. When we did that that early on
in the piece, we went and did a birthday.
Someone hired us for a birthday.We don't do any of this kind of
stuff there, but she's begging us.
This lady was begging us, please, please.
My son is like, all right, we'llcome.
We'll do this thing. We did this birthday.
We rocked up. We did this, you know, said

(01:12:44):
hello to him in character. We're there for an hour.
Anyway, we got out of character and there's one little kid when
we're in character and he was looking, he's like, yeah, he's
saying all the lines to us. He's like, yeah, pull your
bastard when I like tomorrow. Well, he's he's looking at us
like that. We got changed, came back out
and in normal gear. I went to the kid and go, hey,
get away. And he went.
He was devastated. We crushed that kids dreams when

(01:13:07):
he realized. That he was looking to be.
He didn't. Know who were He didn't want to
bar of me. He didn't care that I was I was
Vince. He didn't even care that I'm the
guy that played Vince. He wanted to see Vince.
He just went how did he get the fuck?
And he walked away from me, man.He didn't come near me.
And that's how it feels sometimes like people, you know
that when you put the charactersout, when you put these
characters, that's that's why I know like we have something that

(01:13:30):
that I'm proud of is that we putthe characters in front of these
people, their face that they seeus.
They're like this, their face just Oh my God, it's Johnny
Vincent, Sam's. There's a different reaction on
their face. You know it's them that we owe
everything to the the characters, you know.
Otherwise, can I? Make Frenchness on these
probably really rooted deeply inthis whole thing.
It's like he he talked about legacy, Carlo talked about

(01:13:52):
legacy. Yep.
Legacy come in a number of things, but with what our brand
represents, it's more about those who came before us.
Yeah, it's rooted in that. So the legacy is in.
So we're talking about like the Poitters and do you know what I
mean? All the different characters
that have kind of come before you guys like great Australian,

(01:14:12):
yeah, comedic characters that they've gone like, what is it?
There's there's Poita, there's Russell Coit.
There's yeah, yeah, Russell Coit's one.
I mean that that's, that's an iconic character that he's, that
he's got his own. He's the fruterer.
Connor Fruter. Connor Fruter.
Connor Fruter Yeah, yeah, I would say even more like again,
more like the the old day hang. On.

(01:14:32):
Is that what you meant? No.
Orange. No, I see what what, what anger
you're going then. And we can talk about that too.
It's poor. But the characters, the Johnny
Vincent, Sam's, the Angela Carmela, they're just like
Peanut. These are our mums, our dads,
our grandparents, but not just ours, everybody's.
And so the legacy is about creating a legacy for those

(01:14:53):
people, the forgotten generation, the ones, the
immigrants who came here before us.
Of course, we play a part of that.
We want to create a legacy, but it's all surrounded about
representing those. And that's why their faces
appear everywhere. So that's that's not our faces.
It's it's rooted in who came, who the, what the brand
represents. It's more, it's not just let's
let's have a good laugh, but there's something more to it,

(01:15:15):
you know, And then if you, that's the back story, OK.
What? Yeah, Yeah, that's true.
And what you were saying before,yes, we are just a couple of
guys standing on giant shoulders.
We've said it from the start, you know, we're just, we're just
playing our part. Yeah, because it we've.
Been those those people you mentioned like like I said,
trying to think it's not seen some really big George now is

(01:15:35):
the. Now, yeah, the big ones.
Obviously con the fruit he. Was the fruit huge?
Yeah. You know, in in this space and
and you know, there's there's others, but some support you
more than others. Some are back back you more than
some of the others. I really and some you ruffle a
few feathers. Some get, some get jealous, some
get. Jealous.
Some might not, might not. Just you.

(01:15:56):
Know might, might, might have their own agenda and that's
fine. Everyone's entitled to do
whatever they want to do. But we know who our mates are
and we know who the people that back us, that backed us and that
want to keep on backing us and, and we'll keep backing them.
You know, no matter how big or whatever we get, we always like,
we always just want to be, we want to be friends with

(01:16:16):
everyone, you know what I mean? There's no point in having a God
complex, no. Fact that you got not even being
funny, the fact that you, you know, decided or you've come on
our podcast. Australia's number one podcast.
Australia's number one, but you.Didn't know that when you saw
50. Grand.
I'd do anything. But you know, seriously, it's
like you guys are, you know, when, when, when, when you
walked in, you were like trying to figure out what state you
were in. You know, you've been that

(01:16:37):
fucking busy. So you know what I mean?
Like for you guys to sort of fitus in sort of I guess it's
highlighterosity there. Guys, but I, I, we, we say back
to you guys though, we don't look at it like that.
We say thanks for having us. Yeah, thanks.
For you know. That's the way we look at it.
Have you been to the restaurant?No, I haven't, but we're going
to go. Thanks for your support.
Appreciate your support man. It's very nicely it's.

(01:16:59):
Now on the list. Now we can go.
We have the boys, so it's all sort.
Of and I'm going to get one of those tickets up in the
bleachers in October. No, Yeah, you.
Don't want to go? So how's the restaurant talking
us about the restaurant? So how, how whose idea was that?
And and how like I was in hospitality when I was a kid.
There's no it's a bit of more shop fitters.
It started. It started.
Talking with the CapEx or do theCapEx to get a restaurant off

(01:17:19):
the ground? What do you cap?
It a bit of capital, you know what I mean?
Oh yes, so. That's where all the capital
went. We didn't need to what the start
we do now with these restaurants, that's for sure.
Yeah, it's so, yeah. So start.
How did that come about? OK, again, going back, going
back to when we were doing thoselittle videos at at shops, shit,
that's right. We spoke Danny Zany, who's one

(01:17:42):
of our business partners now, was like, hey, we know what we
should do. One day guys, we should open up
for a a comedy diner. Just a sushi mango diner.
Sushi, Mango Comedy Diner and. We had visions of it being
different though, Visions of like just screens playing old
style comedy and. Disneyland just.
Sort of Disneyland vibe, you know, and.
Gimmick. Sort of, yeah.

(01:18:02):
Kind of, actually it was a bit, yeah, you were saying.
You know, anyway that two years passed because we saw obviously,
you know, working away, doing our thing, whatever.
And then our other business partner, Johnny de Francesco
from 400 Gradi, you know that he's, he won pizza Margarita of
best Margarita in the world in 2015.

(01:18:23):
Yeah, so he was. Johnny actually was the very
first person to hire us. You have us a grand back 2015 to
do. Something Johnny's this thing.
You're a fucking cheap. Bar I don't imagine so.
He gave you your first gorilla. 1st.
Gorilla first money paid a thingfor a pizza fest he was having
and we we promoted that. So we never forgot that.

(01:18:46):
And and then a couple years later, Johnny, we'll sit to
Johnny. We should do like a pizza shop,
you know, a little little. Pizza in the wall type of like,
you know, the old school, you know, the small pizza places.
And he's like, yeah, yeah, we should, we should.
Then COVID hit, right? And I was sitting, I should see
you on the phone with my, with my one of my, one of my best

(01:19:08):
mates, Steve, who's not another business partner and working on
that business partner. What's gonna say, fucking idiot?
You get invoice, There's, there's there's there's.
There's six of us. There's passion project anyway,
so he said he goes, hey, you know what, It would be good
because there's no good sports bars in in in Melbourne.
Yeah, when you go overseas, theysay sports bars.

(01:19:28):
I was like, yeah, you're right. He goes, he goes, you know what,
we should try and open one afterCOVID because everyone would
want to be gone. Want to go?
I said, it's funny you say that.We've got a concept to open up a
restaurant. He's like, really, tell me more.
So I was telling him about it this that the other he goes,
man, we can do this dessert. And I said, listen, I'll
introduce you to the boys and, you know, we can introduce you
to the other guys and, you know,yeah, we could talk to Danny and
then we can talk to Johnny. So we talked to Danny.

(01:19:50):
Danny was keen and we talked to Johnny.
Johnny was keen. Everyone got involved.
We started stirring the pot and.Big.
Minestrone and then you know eight months later popped out
Johnny Vincent Sam's you know the concept of a restaurant
mimicking unanimous house or mimicking Avondale type of type

(01:20:10):
of vibe and when people rock up there they.
We've had people cry. Yeah, I was going to say that.
Oh, were you? Yeah, I was going to say that
part, but you just stole it. They're right.
They're right to. Bring it back.
Go, go, go, go. Go yeah, So some people walk in
there, they get emotional, don'tcry and.
That's. Yeah.
So did it pop straight away? So once you guys launched, were

(01:20:31):
you were you filling it up straight away or did you have to
get out we're. Lucky enough, I mean, with the
audience that we have, we've been blessed to to have people
there. I know some people are
struggling in the industry, which is which is sad to hear.
And I think it's not as bad as what the media make it to be.
And the media make it worse by saying, oh, you know, the
medium. The media keeps saying to

(01:20:53):
everyone, oh, everyone in four restaurants are going to shut
down and pick gets in people's heads and people, people go,
maybe I shouldn't go to a restaurant because it's too
expensive. I'm not going to go because it's
shut down. And then they don't don't go
even more and they make it harder for people.
Shouldn't that make it? Shouldn't that make you want to
go? No, no, it doesn't.
It does. It does.
It's doom and gloom. When you put doom and gloom,
people like, oh, it's too expensive to eat, I'm not going

(01:21:14):
to go there for us. Blessed.
We're blessed that we've got. People, all the audience.
They want to, they want to see the place that want to.
We've got fantastic. Food, the extra layer arts the
story that goes behind the restaurant is why people are
going there, not just the restaurant itself yes the.
Food. Too and the.
Food, well, they go there for that reason, then they and.
Then they take the food. For the food, yeah.

(01:21:35):
Actually, but they go for the nostalgia and stay for the.
Food. The food's are key.
The food's are key. Like we Johnny.
Johnny and his food. And like, is he the 2015 Best
Buy? Yeah, I need to try his fucking
pizza. No, it's, yeah, it's, it's, it's
that's what it is. It's the food that keeps people
coming back. You can put out like Pizza Hut,
let's say. We could just say we had that

(01:21:56):
place and the pizza was like Pizza Hut.
They come once and you're never going to see them.
Yeah. Because then it's a gimmick,
right? Right.
But we're like, no, you're goingto come and you're going to,
you're gonna, you're gonna see what gnocchi tastes like at our
place, Fantic. You're gonna have, you're gonna
have the dishes that we had grown up, that the starters and
all this do. You work on the menu.
Yeah, the the. Absolutely.
We worked on the mix come everything good.
Pay attention to everything. We're getting the message, boys.

(01:22:17):
We're getting the message. We do.
That's actually all the DJ. Yeah, yeah, a little bit.
My bad, fellas. From everything, from the tiles,
me, me, Colin, Andrew, we, we went, we went out looking for
tiles for the toilets like we went, we, we found them, we
sourced them. Where did you?
Find the toilet reservoir, Reza.Yeah.
No, no. Out in the north for sure man,

(01:22:39):
there'd be some. Fucking tiles.
We couldn't find tiles anywhere for bathrooms.
OK, hang on. I went.
I went to at least six places that all said to me, jeez, if
you came to me two months ago, Ijust threw some out.
I had for 30 years. All right then.
I rang a place in Sunshine and Iwas like, like this.

(01:23:00):
By that point there's no point going because we knew that no
one would have them. We're just bringing people.
But I ranked place and said, listen, we're looking for this
kind of style. 19, six years ago, mate.
They haven't been in productionsfor 30 years, mate, so you're
never going to find them. However, I've got this one guy,
I'll give you his number. If he doesn't have them, just
give up. What was his name?
I forget his. Name Rosario.
Rosario Rosario. So I figure in the number.

(01:23:24):
Yes. You got.
We're looking for this tile. Yeah.
You come to come here next week or Thursday?
I can't come on Wednesday because I've got to take my wife
to the doctor. You've come?
They said, well, he's talking tome and I thought where the fuck
are we going? And we'd say we gave me the
address. He's a gentleman, love.
Lovely black. We're turning up the reservoir.
It's in the residential area. It's not a shop.
He was an ex tile shop owner. He had one here and one in

(01:23:45):
somewhere in the other side of the world Shepherd or somewhere
going to his house. He opened his garage and it was
like bloody. It was like a tall shop.
In there but you missed the bestpart.
The guy was 4 foot. Yeah, he was.
This he was the exact replica ofour characters.
Yeah, could have been a character he.
Could check your shirt characters, check your shirt,

(01:24:07):
check your shirt comes out. Is this tall?
You know, ground pleats, ground pleats the house.
And he goes, what do you want tothis attire?
Yeah, come with me. He had a system like his system
for where everything was was allhandwritten and the filing
system. So I'd go here, pull it out.
You go row a #12 over there. It's over there. 5 tiles. 5
tiles. He knew he had five. 5 tiles and

(01:24:29):
there's a 13 over there and it'slike it was, it was amazing.
And that was the start, though. He was looking at us like, what
do these guys want with these tiles?
Like why are these three young guys wanting these old tiles?
They were a hot seller 30 years ago, but he was.
Sort of a little bit looking at us like what the hell?
And then then finally we know weexplained to what we're doing

(01:24:49):
and then afterwards we had to leave and he's like all right,
walk slowly started back to his into the kitchen, comes back,
gives us 3 orange juices and then I go.
So we're going to go who cares? He goes, look, if you leave now
and you get a flat tire and you're going to be stuck on the
side of the road, you're going to be late anyway, So who cares

(01:25:10):
if you're late? His mindset was you might see
what happens so you might be late anyways.
Don't worry, just stay and he. Said that the I don't care about
what it was, what he would have said, and it's this one here
tipped in a box. It's come to $260 just to give
me 250 cash. He's a lovely guy.
So did you boys, did you have aninterior designer or?

(01:25:30):
You boy or you pieceed. It to get to you.
Who have? Done fucking well.
Mitchell needs to who's done like all of Chris Lucas's.
Well, most of Chris Lucas's playreal Americana, Americana.
I think she. Did she's all all of.
Actually, I think we saw a skit.I don't know if you know this.
Sam Rigor. Sam.
Who's Rigor Rigatoni? The agent?

(01:25:51):
Yeah. Sam Rigatoni.
Yeah. Yeah, we do, Sam for Sam.
Sorry, sorry, Sam Australian. On our website.
He agreed with Rigatoni. Couldn't work.
Out whether. It was a change on our you guys
have done the skip with the auctions.

(01:26:12):
That was fast. Yeah, that.
Was you said that? Okay.
It's funny, man. It's funny, but no.
So, so yeah. So we helped with all that and
the glasses and the couch. Down to the menu.
We we sat down and we sort of scrutinized the menus.
Gotta look. We just wanted.
We just wanted what we had grownup and Johnny being, you know,
Sicilian as well, We're like, wewant the Vidora and we want the

(01:26:34):
Peppers and potatoes. He's like, I got it.
We want we want a different style pizza.
We don't want the round. We want a bit more airy and a
bit more homestyle crusty on theedges.
He's guys, I got something, you know, we want this, we want
that. He just.
Knew you had your boy. Yeah, and, and we're not the
best. Like we're not stupid.
People are looking at us going fuck, you guys know about
restaurants? We don't know anything about

(01:26:55):
restaurants. That's why we've got Johnny and
Danny. I was going to say that before,
one of the things I was going tosay before for the people
listening at home, they try and get the Nuggets.
The key sounds like the reason you've been able to move and
move at the right and be able tokeep up with the rate of growth
is the people that you're plugging in, right?
So you guys, you go, I want a restaurant.
I know nothing about it, but fucking Mr. Pizza guy knows

(01:27:15):
everything and over here. So it's really about whenever
you come up with whatever ideas,it's getting the right people
around. Don't right position.
Don't be afraid to dilute your share there.
You go, there you go. Cause a lot of people fucking
don't like partnering with. Partnering with masters and
dilute your share to partner with with masters.
And you'll find you'll find yourremaining share is worth more

(01:27:37):
than the. Yeah, that's actually.
Not let them. Let's do their thing.
And you? Priceless.
You bring your skill set. Bring your skill set to to the.
Our skill set. Machine and they bring the the
cuisine and the and the and the the full staff and the running
of the restaurant and everything.
We've got the IP, we've got the audience, we know a brand,
they've got the back end, they've got they they know how
to the run operationally. We've come together.

(01:27:58):
We've got Steve as well. Who's the guy I initially told
you RE. We revamped it together.
Like the idea? Oh yeah.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he.
Is the CEO, he's the one who puts everything together.
He's the glue. He does all the P and LS.
He does all the forecasting and,and he brings us all together.
He he brings our brand together.He brings their brand together.
He keeps us, he keeps us glued together.

(01:28:20):
It's just, it's a magical and it's, there's six of us and we
know where we're going. We know where we want to go.
We know we want to go to the top.
We know we're now extending up. We bought the building together.
We're going upstairs. We're doubling the seats.
We've got something else in the big one.
So we're going Interstate. We there's there's talk about
Interstate. Like, I feel like, yeah, we all

(01:28:41):
know we're all Melbourne. It's here, so we know
Melbourne's the place to be. But the people from overseas
tend to stop at Sydney first. Yeah, you.
Guys, there's talk about Interstate.
There's, there's also something else cooking that I literally
can't say no. That's the one thing I'm not
allowed to say, right? No, you can't say that to you,
No. But the six of us, the six of us
are cooking up something else. Yep, the group.

(01:29:04):
Pardon the pun. Yeah.
And it's, it's great. Yeah, just like you said, Yeah,
definitely partner with people that know what they're doing and
they're the best in the field and don't be afraid to dilute
your share. That's great advice because all
you do, you do try and keep on. You're trying to keep these
shares and they're not really worth anything. 100% of
expertise. 10 bucks is is is shit, but 100 bucks you know 30%

(01:29:29):
of 300 million is is. Is a good deal.
Lots of millions. Lots of millions.
But we also knew Johnny and Danny for a while as well.
So we knew pretty much who we'regetting into business with as
well and. Boys, this has been an awesome
chat. And so it's not.
For 12 hours. Yeah, it's very good.
It's it's, it's a record, but a record but.
I was like, he kept asking questions.

(01:29:49):
I'm like, what is? It I've got more, two more and.
Get me off this thing. And we were talking about Joe
Rogan before, so here we are. We've got a 14 1/2 hour podcast.
They were complaining of that before, Andrew was saying.
Complaining I was going. They're great, but they're too.
Fat Adam Sandler Unfuck. Part of the problem, but yeah,

(01:30:10):
well done boys, well done. Quickly.
Yeah, when I was 7. Boys, congratulations, you got
on an awesome journey. We can't wait to keep seeing it
roll out and we need to get downto the rest.
We'll get the team down to the. We'll take the team, Yeah, well
does. How how long in advance can we
can we book? We know.
A guy Months. Oh yeah, yeah.
True. Yeah, yeah, true.
We know guys, but now well done boys and you're making people

(01:30:31):
laugh everywhere and love our humble and our authentic and
down to earth you boys are so. Well, thanks guys.
You guys are legends and congratulations on your success.
Yeah and we have 1. You know what I don't know my
podcast and also keep saying I'mpretty sure.
Check. Your believe it.
Check your bloodline because I'mpretty sure that people who

(01:30:52):
develop as many properties as you guys are Wogs.
Yeah, we could be Wogs. Check.
I grew up in Coburg. My parents grew up in Coburg.
My grandparents, Kelly. Kelly.
Caliopoulos. Caliopoulos.
That's it. Pedro Caliopoulos.
Calios, Pedro Caliopoulos. You've heard it first.
Thanks lads. Good on you.
Good on you. Thanks.
Please. Like, share, subscribe.
See you at the top, people. Will be part of a winning team.

(01:31:17):
People can find a better versionof themselves if they choose.
You just need to go start some shit action is all that.
Matters. Be a man of your word.
Think I look back now and I'm like, well, that took some guts.
He can't, he can't. He can't see you at the top.

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