From Cerebral Palsy to DJ Prodigy: The Cooper Smith Story

DJ Cooper Smith is smashing stereotypes and living his dream.

Born with cerebral palsy, he started mixing at just 5... proving nothing could hold him back.

Now 19, with his legendary mum Bron by his side, he’s breaking barriers behind the decks and in the studio.

Proof that limits are just bullshit.

👇 Chapters

00:00:00 - Intro

00:01:03 - DJ Cooper Smith!

00:03:00 - Baby Cooper: The Early Years

00:05:30 - Born with Cerebral Palsy: Coop’s Story

00:10:42 - Navigating Life with a Visible Disability

00:15:34 - Growing Up with Cerebral Palsy

00:18:28 - School Life: Lessons & Challenges

00:25:50 - The DJ Dream Begins!

00:28:51 - Coop’s Ultimate DJ Inspiration Revealed

00:31:18 - From App to Decks

00:35:21 - Cooper’s First Live Gig

00:40:15 - Exploring Music Production

00:46:30 - The Club Scene

00:49:40 - Love Life Gossip: What’s the Tea?

00:52:56 - Fitness Routine

00:57:14 - Overcoming Adversity

01:05:00 - Cooper’s Golden Advice

01:11:00 - Wrapping Up

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
I fell pregnant with copes and when everything was going fine
until like the day that he was actually born in user Rd., the
cord was wrapped around Cooper'sneck and that deprived his brain
of oxygen and that's where he received his brain injury.
Born with cerebral palsy, CooperSmith faced challenges from day
one, but he defy all odds to become an international DJ and

(00:23):
music producer. It's an extraordinary story of
remarkable resilience and talent.
What about bullying? Did you experience much bullying
at school and stuff growing up? Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, my mum. Oh.
OK, we reckon that someone said,hey, you are word.
And then Cooper said at least mymum's not a junkie.
And then that was the end of that.

(00:46):
That six weeks was like seriously so traumatic.
And when Coops was born and he was not breathing, he hardly had
a heart rate. They said he was gonna die and
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But pumped to get into Big Fish today's episode, Coops and Bron.

(02:16):
Thanks for coming in guys. Oh yeah, oh oh, have a.
Thank you for having us. Yeah, awesome.
So we've got Cooper and we've got Cooper's mum Bron in with
us, both holding down the seats.Earlier on in the year we did a
run together, Benny. We did.
Yeah, yeah. The, the, the quickest things
threw Mike over Thickest Thieves.

(02:38):
Yep. We've said it many, many times.
We did that episode at Revolver.It changed our lives in many
ways. That's how we ended up getting
behind our charity. We saw what Mike was doing,
inspired us to find a charity and do a similar thing.
And then through that we jumped on The Quickest Thieves.
And that's just, that's just taken us in a whole new
direction and, and introduced usto, yeah, some amazing humans.

(03:01):
Amazing people doing runs. You did the 10K coupes.
Yeah, that for hard it. Was hard.
Around the 10 how many is that? 3 laps was it?
3 laps. Sorry, 3 laps of the It's not
the 10. Two laps. 2 laps, 2 laps.
Oh man, it wasn't too bad. I reckon like I.

(03:25):
Think you were like 2 minutes. In and you said I hate this.
And then at the end you said, Ohmy God, I want to do the 21
kilometer next. Year, I reckon you got to do the
21. We got to make Mike do it again,
too. He will, he will.
He needs a couple of years off. Though couple of years, yeah.
So I think he's earned it too, to be fair.
Oh. Yeah, it gives you a bit of time
to train cooks. Yeah, there.

(03:48):
Oh, what? Oh.
He, Mike, does work very hard. He does.
He does an awesome job. Mike.
Yeah, He inspires me. I reckon he inspires.
Me as well, man. I don't think there's anyone
sitting here. He doesn't, you know, like it's,
it's crazy. That guy's 100.
Percent human. So curbs Bron.
Can we can we unpack where it where it all began?

(04:09):
Like, I think maybe Bron, you know, the story probably starts
with you. I was there.
Bron, did you know before Coops was born that he had like some
kind of condition or no? OK, so.
I'll start from the start. So I fell pregnant with Coops
and he was, you know, very much planned and very much wanted.

(04:29):
And we were super, super excitedto have our first child.
And when everything was going fine, typical pregnancy until
like the day that he was actually born in utero, Coops
didn't have a brain injury. And he was a typical developing
child. And when he was being born,

(04:52):
there were quite a few medical mishaps.
And the cord was wrapped around Cooper's neck and that deprived
his brain of oxygen. And that's where he received his
brain injury. Gotcha, gotcha.
So, yeah, so that so that would have been, you know, an ordeal
doing that. An ordeal.
That's a good way to put it. I'm still rocking in the chair

(05:15):
nearly 20 years later. I asked why I was just putting
myself there. So did you know at the time, was
it was it something that was like a like an of a lack of
better word, an ordeal in the room at the time or was it not
an ordeal that came to light later?
Does that make sense? No, no.
It was very much an ordeal during the birthing process, and

(05:38):
it was very much an ordeal when Coops was born and he was not
breathing. He hardly had a heart rate.
They said he was going to die. And can you, you know, take some
photos of your baby because you probably will never see him
again alive sort of thing. Why are you like?
It's not funny. And well, he he last laughed,
laughed the loudest. That's.

(05:58):
Right. You know, and Cooper's just
always been Cooper. So he has not known a life, you
know, different to the one that he's sort of is leading.
And I guess like when he was sort of first, you know, coming
into the world, there was lots of doctors and nurses and we
were very much aware that this situation was, you know, pretty
critical. But he's, you know, from that,

(06:20):
from that day onwards, he's fought and fought and fought and
shown us that, you know, he can do anything.
And he's super persistent and, you know, committed to
everything that he says he's going to do and.
What about what about you Bron? Like how was it early on and how
did you handle it? And I guess when did you, at
what point you said, you know, that it was critical for a long
time, At what point did that sort of transition to go, OK,

(06:43):
we've got coops now and, and, and and you said, you know,
coops has always been coops doesn't know himself any
different, but same as you, right?
Coops is coops. Yeah, yeah, true.
I guess like as a parent, when you know, you're pregnant and
you're bringing a child into theworld, especially like for the
first time, you're, you have allthese sort of hopes and dreams
of how things are going to look.And then all of a sudden when

(07:06):
you know your child's born, you know, with a brain injury, your
whole perception of how you thought things were going to be
is completely different than, you know, what sort of happening
in front of you. I think I just hit the ground
running really and just worked on adrenaline for probably like
16 years. Like that's not a joke, but I

(07:29):
think creep stayed in hospital for about 6 weeks and like in
intensive care and sort of learning how to, I don't know,
manage, you know, the damage that had been done, I guess to
his brain and to try and get himto get to a stage where he could
come home and, you know, live, live his life really.
And. And what kind of things did you

(07:51):
need to, you know, in that six week period opposed to taking
like you thought you were going to take home, I guess a healthy
baby, but then to take home troops, What what, what did that
six weeks look like as far as preparation and stuff?
That six weeks was like, so like, seriously, so traumatic
and really, really hard to be going home every day at the end,

(08:13):
like the end of the day, having to go home in the hospital,
leave your baby at the hospital,you know, come home, look at his
cot and everything at home and not have him there and not sort
of knowing what he was sort of going to be like.
Or I think when Chris was about 3 days old, they did a brain
like an MRI on his brain and they said, you know, he has
brain injury and that's classified as cerebral palsy.

(08:37):
And I just, you know, madly started researching what
cerebral palsy was. And obviously, you know,
Cooper's CP looks totally different to what I was
researching. So he's.
Yeah. What what can you talk us
through that? Because I think that's what most
people would do, right? You would go do that?
Yeah, absolutely. I know my wife would do it.
And, and for context, my daughter was my first daughter

(08:58):
was born. She was born six weeks early and
she had a heart, a hole in her heart.
So we had a bit of an experiencethere, nothing like yours, but a
little bit of experience there where we were in the unknown and
unsure of the health of our baby.
And it's, it is, yeah. Like you go to Google to try and
figure this stuff out. So can you explain what Google
was telling you and I guess the reality a little bit?

(09:20):
Yeah. I guess like Google was sort of
telling me about all different sort of types of CP and, you
know, I guess it was maybe when Cooper was two years old, we
sort of found out the specific type of CP that Coops has.
And a lot of people that have the type of CP Cooper has, they
had the brain injury occur around the same time.
This Donny. This this Donny Quadriloglia.

(09:44):
Quadrip, dystonic, quadriplegia,cereal palsy.
Yeah, yeah. So quadriplegia just means it
affects all of your limbs, doesn't it?
Correct. Yep.
And dystonia is more sort of thecoordination, I guess of those,
those limbs. So, so for coups, I guess
integrating into those, you know, whether it's daycare,

(10:06):
kinder school, you talk us through, you know, those stages.
Yeah. And even like I know we're
hearing a lot from Brom, but keen to hear from.
Yeah, we'll get there. When you start having your
earliest because I don't know ifyou remember those like early,
early days. Oh no, no, no, not really.
Oh, you're a baby? And you were the cutest, cutest

(10:28):
baby. He had like a massive head.
You're a thick baby. You're a chubby baby.
You're a chubby, weren't you? And, and one thing you you
mentioned then was for the to not butcher it.
So dystonic quadriplegia. Yeah.
So both of those explanations related to the, the, the, the

(10:51):
limbs, you know, effects all your limbs and then the the
function of those limbs that arejust formed.
So none of it, which is interesting for me.
So none of it's brain related, right?
So, so it's all just physical. So me having a conversation with
coops, which is what I'm learning because me and coops
got to sit down at the quickest thieves thing.
And that was what I was learningon the spot.

(11:12):
Because for someone like me and hopefully for a lot of the
people listening at home, we make a lot of assumptions,
right? And definitely.
And when you see coops, the assumption is that his brain is,
is is not 100%, but it is. And that's I.
Think that's right. Yeah, I think when, you know,
Cooper received his brain injury, it's to the part of the
brain called the basal ganglia, and that controls all your motor

(11:35):
functions. So that's why, you know,
obviously you've got muscles in your mouth.
Your tongues are really strong muscles.
So all the messages getting sentto, you know, Cooper's mouth and
Cooper's legs and arms and his core and his toes and whatever,
they all just get mixed up all those messages.
So he has to learn how to, well,has had to learn how to control
all those. So decoded himself sort of
thing. Correct.
But yeah, as we said before, like Cooper's intellect isn't

(11:59):
affected from his cerebral palsy.
And most of the time people withCP, their intellect isn't
affected. So, you know, that's something
really important to a note to know.
And, you know, always assume that someone with CP has
intelligence. They might just communicate a
little bit differently or move, move a bit differently.
But inside their mind it's, you know, like coops thinking like a
typical 19 year old. That is such a like powerful

(12:22):
message. How do you deal with that coops?
So do you have interactions withpeople and are you like, you
know, don't? Fuck you, man.
Like, just talk to me, man, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, one and oh very well on the on the

(12:57):
'cause all my no, no, it's not about what I have, but I am too
more L to I know right now a barrier is the man who I am.

(13:25):
Yeah, and I think coops like youdo a lot of, you know, in your
social interactions, you've learnt really, really well of
how you always try and make the person feel comfortable, even
though it's not always your job.Because, you know, as you always
say, like I'm not a dumbass, like to speak to me like a
typical person. He calls it conversational

(13:51):
foreplay, talks of it. You make them feel comfortable
and then you know. And, and that's the that's,
that's 100% the one thing that Inoticed and I met you and Jason
at the same time. And I noticed that yeah, that.
And that's why I that bridge that gap immediately for me,
because I didn't realise that. And then that and then our

(14:11):
interactions immediately went tojust normal interactions about
the day and about what was goingon sort of thing, which is.
Yeah, but you were like really quick to have that moment of
like that life. Realisation.
Yeah, true. But some people, you know, it
might take them meeting croups 10 times and they still haven't
had that light bulb moment and they still, you know, baby talk

(14:32):
to you or talk to you. As I, I think credit to Jacob,
who who I sat down with, credit to Jacob.
Jacob just, that's just what Jacob's inter.
I immediately saw that Jacob's interaction with Cooper were
just with Cooper. Yeah, 'cause that doesn't make
sense. Like.
You started to go. OK.
Man, I just immediately knew, oh, Cooper's just Cooper, you
know what I mean? So that was sort of, Yeah, I

(14:53):
feel like that was my, that was the light bulb for me.
Correct. I feel like if there's a role
model there, and often it's yoursiblings that are the remote the
role. Model.
So when people see you interacting with your siblings,
then they go, oh, that's the waywe're we're supposed to
interact. Yeah, well, Jacob has that lived

(15:21):
experience of having a sibling with a disability.
Of course. Yeah, I forgot about that.
Of course. Yeah, right.
So well. That helps.
Yeah, of course. So he yeah, cuz for me, for
someone like like it was the first time I guess I'd
interacted, I guess, you know, had a conversation with someone

(15:42):
with cerebral palsy. So I was coming in with a lot of
assumptions and and I guess a little bit nervous.
Again, you like you said, it's my job to try and cuz I don't
want you to feel uncomfortable and then you feel yeah, all of
that. So it is interesting.
But coups, let's get into the let's get into it, mate.
Let's get into the bits and pieces when because we all know
now that you know when you're growing up, you're going through

(16:02):
all the same shit I went throughwhen I was growing up.
You're having the same thoughts,you're probably causing your mum
the same dramas and. Stuff so but 100%.
So I guess coops, can you tell us about the time when you
realized that you were different?
Does that make sense? Because and I, and I and I say
that I hate using the word different because we're all

(16:25):
different, right? So what's different?
But I guess with, for a lack of a better way of explaining it,
what, at what point did you sortof go see what's going on here?
You know, like people looking atme a little bit different or
treating me a little bit different.
Do you remember that time? Yeah, maybe one all over the
battle, about 30. Oh, Cooper.

(17:09):
Had two neighbours called Holly and Lucy and they had a play
like a cubby house. Yeah.
Playing together. I didn't know Cubby House.
Oh, but oh, but oh, no more and no more.

(17:33):
There's a. Cubby House, yeah, with two
levels. And then Cooper realised he
couldn't get up to that second level.
No, but of course. Because it was physical, not
mental, Yeah. But they.
Oh, they carried. They just pulled you up.
They were the same. Size as you they just pulled you
up. I remember, I remember Amen that

(18:00):
didn't. They didn't care at all, they
just you were just who you were and they just pulled you up
independent of you being yourself.
And did you find that a lot growing up hoops?
Did you find out if you just sort of threw yourself into
things, people just treated you the same way?
Yeah, all down and then the and then.

(18:25):
Hey I don't know how it will work but I will work.
Yeah, you work it out. And music so so I know we're
going to get to music, but I'm assuming like all of us, you've

(18:45):
had many passions and things that you loved along the way
that led you to music. Can you talk us through some of
the things that you were early, you know that you were
passionate about younger that you used to do that used to fill
your days can. You remember, I remember when
you were first born, the nurse at the hospital, she sort of

(19:06):
clumped you in a group of like, you know, all these babies, as
in all these babies with a disability, all they love music.
And I was like, well, I found that quite offensive.
Like don't put my kid in this group of people or whatever.
And he's an individual. But, you know, it turns out he
does really like music. So she was so she was right.
Sally at Dandenong Hospital, youknow, shout out Sal, I used to

(19:29):
take you to music groups when you were little because you
could physically like, I would sort of have to prop you up and
help your sit and whatever. But you could hold a drumstick
and, you know, belt that away like with the other preschool
kids and that sort of thing. But you always wanted to be a
policeman. Yeah, all I want is there.
You're a little detective. Now it's the opposite.

(19:58):
Now he looks at the ground now. You're scared going.
Well. When you go through airport
security and they're always swabbing creepers with he's.
Checking his pockets underneath underneath I've got Pudge shout
out Pudgy my mate. Pudgy's always he's.

(20:20):
The little mirror. He's got his little stash
underneath. Yeah.
So, so coups. What about making friends and
stuff? So so do you went to a normal
primary school? Is that right?
We went to a normal primary school.
Normal high school. So talk us.
Yeah, talk us through what was that experience like for you
coups? Yeah.
Oh, Oh yeah. Yeah, back then, I think when

(20:56):
you first started primary school, you know, I went and
visited all the different primary schools to try and see
which one would sort of suit youbest.
And yeah, none of them had really had any experience with
someone with the like. It's the level of disability
that you had, but there was one that was willing to give it a
try, so that's the one we chose.And and.
Was that a was that like a, likea special needs school?

(21:18):
No. No, so just a mainstream.
Wow so creeps went like 2 years at kinder, mainstream and then
mainstream primary and mainstream high school.
And now. Oh yeah, but.
You, you're the, I think at primary school, you're the only
person with like a visible disability.

(21:38):
But as we've like, as things have changed, there were
definitely hidden disabilities that maybe weren't sort of quite
out there yet or the research hadn't been done and.
Yeah. Interesting.
And was there consideration because I asked, because I lived
near the Concorde school you might have heard of, which is a
disability school which I grew up near that school.

(21:59):
So was there was there no schools like that or was it a
choice for you to go? You know what?
There was. A conscious choice to go to.
There was. There was a.
Yeah, there there is a high school near us for kids with
physical disabilities, you know,primary and high school.

(22:21):
And there are other schools thatI think with the schooling
thing, it's got to do with like they do lots of IQ testing and
things like that. So there's different levels of
schooling and where you would sort of go depending on what
your intellect is. And because Cooper's intellect
isn't affected, he was the perfect candidate for
mainstream. But at the like, it's much more

(22:43):
kind of common now. It's not such a big deal.
It's just sort of a given now. But back then it was a massive
task to get that kind of happening.
And would you, would you agree or just me thinking about it?
Would you agree? It's, it's been a blessing, a
massive, massive blessing for coups to not have been separated
and gone. No, no, you're, you're, you're
not. You're like you said at the

(23:03):
start, you're in the music groupover here.
Yeah. But he got put into the
mainstream and just lives like amainstream life and.
One home, but yeah. And who, why?
And my and then I. And other than that, Oh my, oh

(23:36):
little and Oh my. Yeah, could be saying like, you
know, in a mainstream school, he's thrown into the thick of
it. It's it's real life.
And make friends. And that's what we wanted for
groups was to and. That's why, you know, that's why
you can go and live the life that you're living now.
And then, like you were saying earlier, Brian, where, where he
can stand up and, and be the onethat disarms the situation or,

(23:58):
or makes the other person feel comfortable.
He's been because he's been exposed to it, because it's,
it's not foreign. Well, once you've finished your
school life, there's no more special school.
Yeah. And I think this comes how
resilient. To great from that.
Really. Yeah.
Because that comes to resilience, right?
So it's a broader topic, nothingto do with cerebral palsy, but
making your kids resilient if you go and separate your kids,

(24:20):
in the case of yours, out of a mainstream school.
But it can be smaller situations.
But you know, you hide your kidsfrom the pandemic or the wars,
or you tell them that the world's perfect or whatever, and
you shield them from it. Eventually you're not.
They're going to be there and the world's going to be the
world and they won't have the resilience or the the skill set
to deal. You've essentially stitched them

(24:41):
up right by trying to protect them, by trying to separate them
and protect them. You've left them without the
skill set to to move forward, but you've been quite the
opposite. You've been thrown.
In and the unbelievable hell Common what?

(25:03):
In the bubble and so many. People in the bubble, yeah.
But yeah, I mean, I will just say like the whole schooling
thing and disability and stuff like that, it's way, way more
complicated than how it kind of seems on the surface.
Copes and I think. There are so many different

(25:27):
sorts of disabilities and it it,you know, essentially just comes
down to funding and training forteachers and education.
Education at the moment, like the mainstream schools aren't
set up to be fully inclusive because they just don't have the
money and the staff and the training and the knowledge and
things. So that's why there's
segregation at the moment. But.
Yeah, it's tricky. So coops you, I think you

(25:49):
finished in year 11. Did I read that right?
And then what did we go and we, you know, and talk to us about
the music. When did that start?
And. Or the big move, the transition
from going. You know what?
I'm not gonna. I'm gonna leave V Is it VC or C?
What do they call it? HS.
No. That.
No SO. Keeps it V Cal.

(26:12):
It's called VM now. OK.
You. We're doing TAFE as well.
As that went all my dad hung outwith the lads, yeah, the lads
at. TAFE out in the car park.
I went to TAFE. I know what's.
Happening oh, this one. Got your ugly on?

(26:36):
Yeah, but what about when you like when you first started?
Like during lockdown when you first when you first started
trying to DJ. Yeah, How did that come about?
And talk to us, yeah. OK, because you woke up.

(27:21):
What? You had a dream you'd never seen
anyone like a rock star with a disability, and you thought I
can't play an instrument, so I'll just get up and be a DJ.
It's only like turning some knobs and getting drunk.
There you go. Hey, I knew that's all it was.
But he's gonna, he's gonna do, you know, I've seen you DJ,

(27:46):
mate, and I've looked close enough to realise, and this is a
big part of why I wanted to haveand you're not a token DJ.
And that's, and that's, that's the shit.
There's some skills there. Many it's it's it's a lot more
complicated to there's levels toeverything PK and who.
Knows playing at a level. PK yeah, Coops isn't a token DJ.
He he's, he's, he's DJ man. He knows what he's doing.

(28:07):
So yeah. Yeah, and that another and how
in the then they are open and then in the Melbourne.

(28:28):
The Melbourne scenes cutthroat. Yeah, Yeah, you can't.
You can't. You're 100%.
Yeah, it's. But yeah, so Melbourne.

(28:57):
'S critical. It's an educated this is a fact.
This is a, this is a fact. You know, like a Melbourne is
known as a, as an iconic, you know, techno and dance music,
sort of, you know, we're one of the meccas, Yeah, so educated
and, and you spot on coops. You know, there's, there's
definitely places you can go andplay anything and, and people

(29:17):
will dance. But Coopers not only in
Melbourne cutthroat, but also the genre and style of music
that you're playing Cooper is nojoke either.
You're playing a really intelligent type of music.
I suppose you're not just out there picking the the most
popular songs. That are on what?
But what, what would you say your, your favorite genre is?

(29:39):
Because I, I would, would you say you're a little bit
eclectic, but you've got your your main genres.
Could you tell us what they are?Yeah.
Oh oh. Afro house and house.
Afro House, Yeah. Sick and and and and would you
say? What would you say if your
favorite DJ? So who do?

(30:00):
You or producer? You love Uncle Karl, Karl.
Karl Cox, of course. And you've spent some what
you've spent some time with Karl.
You've can you talk to us about what, what was that like meeting
Karl and what, what did you learn?
No. But you haven't spoken much

(30:25):
about music. But what did you speak to him
about? About.
They talked about making luxury hay bales because Carl grows
Lucerne hay for race horses. He does some weird stuff.
Yeah, right. So yeah, you were just two guys
just talking, weren't you? It was, you know.

(30:47):
Was there any, was there any career advice?
Because there's, you know, Carl is, you know, he would be the
number one most longevity DJ in the history of the game.
No, no more. Play with your heart, not your
mind. Yeah, that's great.
Advice, great advice and I guesscoops, can you talk to us?

(31:10):
You decided you had the dream, right?
Because there's way too much hashappened, right?
So you can't just had a dream. You thought this is going to be
a walk in the park. I'm going to get pissed and I'm
going to turn some knobs and I'mgoing to have a good time.
Now that's not when I started myDJ career.
It wasn't too far from that either.
You know what I mean? It's like I'm.

(31:30):
Going to have a good time. This dude looks like he's having
a good time. I'm going to do that but bridge
the gap coop. So how did you your first set of
decks and and then learning to DJ?
How difficult was that? You know, I've watched you, you
know, I've watched you. What kind of adjustments did you
need to make or if any? How long were your shit for?

(31:52):
Yeah, that's gonna be shit. Yeah.
How long were your shit for? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh yeah. How long did it take you to
learn the beat matching? Because let's you know, say beat
matching is the core of, is the foundational skill of of DJ.
So yeah. Oh, oh, oh.

(32:24):
Yeah, so during like lock the lockdown, you bought an app on
your iPad, didn't you? When?
You. Were 16 the DJ app, The DJ wire
my daughter had. A DJ MasterCard.
Yeah, yeah, right. So you started on that.
That's a good app. Yeah, I was horrendous.

(32:52):
Well, I think you came out and you said, like, I want to be a
DJ. And I'm thinking the only DJ I
knew about was like a wedding DJ.
Like, I didn't know anything. I've not got no musical skill
whatsoever. Well, now I know a little bit
more than I did like, two years ago.
But yeah, I remember you just sort of saying I want to be a
DJ. I'm thinking I just can't
imagine you sort of standing up and, like, doing the toast for

(33:13):
the bride and groom. But obviously it wasn't that.
And I still to this day sort of go like, like whenever anyone
comes up in the club and they say, so Cooper's actually
really, really good. And I'm like, is he Like, I
still don't believe no. No, no, he is.
But apparently he's. Not right.
He. Is and that's the that's the
that's the the cool part about it.
That is that is the the authentic part about it.

(33:35):
And I think you when you get guys like Mike and Jake and Carl
and like, they're not, they're not, they're not.
Do you know what I mean? Like no.
No. No, it's all Gen.
It's all authentic, man. And it's 100% authentic because
you know what, if it's not, it doesn't matter what they say or
what they do, because it's not. If it's not authentic, it's not
going to last 100%. And what they've seen is what

(33:57):
you know is a talent and a skill. 100%, but yeah, coupe.
So yeah. How difficult was that?
Well, did you, do you feel like you found it extra difficult to
learn the skills or do you feel like you've become came
naturally to understand, you know, 4 beats in a bar, 4 bars
in a phrase, all those kind of musical things that you would
have learned. I am no one there, but I am.

(34:28):
At lunchtime you used to take your iPad and you're into the
basketball stadium at school. Practice every day and just
practice and practice. I think you're supposed to be
doing maths at the time, but I don't think you did it.
But we tried to work out 8 by 12.
Was that you and me before and we couldn't work?
I have no idea. Yeah, we can work.
It out. Oh, whatever.
None the yeah, yes they do. It's important.

(34:53):
Do you remember your first gig? Can you tell us about your first
gig? But you first like outside of
school. What was your first gig?
Your first pay gig Go to your first pay gig.
When someone paid you to do thisthing, you just rock up to get.

(35:18):
This stuff it was at. A library wasn't a Parkdale
library. Yeah.
No, no, no. It's not a nightclub, it was
actually a. Library.
How did that go? Keep it down Coops which?

(35:40):
I am no one, no. There were people there that
were that knew you were going tobe DJ ING, but then the people
that were there reading, they quickly evacuated.
I'm sure about the. Venue choice?
What about do you remember your first nightclub?
So I'll go. Were you nightclubbing?
Had you experienced before you decided to become a DJ?

(36:00):
Had you been to a nightclub and seen a DJ before?
No. Because you're only 16, so you.
Hadn't right. So maybe on YouTube, maybe on
YouTube you've seen? Did you watch Boiler Room?
Oh yeah, Boiler Room. Yeah, yeah, on YouTube.
Oh my, yeah, that is it. So what was your first?

(36:25):
Can you remember your first clubgig?
Yeah, it was. On the rooftop at 160.
That's. Mad no one.
Was it? What day was it was?
It. Is that what they do?
That's Breakfast Club, yeah, I feel.
Like it was after that I think. It was it.

(36:50):
Was like a Saturday afternoon. But.
Remember, it was the team, the guys from Disco Box that sort of
had heard about you and they just wanted to give you a bit of
a, you know, leg up a bit of a chance.
They reached out. I was there.
There was. That no one.
That's all right. That's the first one.
You, you get up there. But how, how did you go?

(37:11):
Because I know my first gig. You get used to using your
equipment or your, you know, whether it be your what was it
like rocking up the unknown, notknowing what kind of equipment
was going to be there, not knowing how many people were
going to be there. You know, what was that unknown?
Were you nervous coups? Oh, oh, oh, oh, but and the

(37:39):
more. Because of Cooper CP, he can
only use particular decks. So he has to use the 3000 decks,
right? Because I've got the touch
screen and then he can do the own song selection himself.
Gotcha. Yep.
So wherever he plays, he has to have oh.
Because he can't. You can't do that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotcha.
Yep. But you can.

(38:01):
You've played mixer from mixers?Any mixer now?
And that's why you weren't on the iPad, because that that DJ,
Correct. Yeah.
Yeah. Because it's.
Yeah. Fascinating.
What about coupes? So that first gig?
What about your your first gig when you're rocked in and there
was a dance floor full of peopleand you played after someone
That's just, you know, maybe you've played after Jacob these
or Jacob. I could have been Tom who have

(38:22):
just, you know, or you know, what was that?
What was that like? Oh oh, that was umm, I am at the
old porn at porn and Co oh. Porn and.
Co Yeah, Yep. Never been, Never been.

(38:49):
I think it was like 2 weeks after you turned 18 wasn't it?
And you went and played at porn and Co with Tom.
And the old war, the the bounce and the my iron and the.
To the bounce or to the door? The bounces.

(39:10):
They nearly didn't let you in because they thought he was
tricking, that he was the DJ. I didn't.
Again, they made assumptions. Assumptions again like.
Anyway, they were. The next time, they were good.
I'm I'm I'm. I'm not the manager.

(39:31):
I'll. Shout out to Gaz, the manager of
porn. Yeah.
And then? Gaz said that.

(39:57):
Gaz said to creeps. Don't, don't fuck this up
because I'll tell everyone and no one will book you and that's
when you. He knew you weren't a token.
Yeah, that was that was the mostbecause he was worried about
being a token. Yeah, yeah.
I mean 100% and and I think yeah.
And you, you appreciate that nowbecause, well.
Do you think? You're smart enough to realize
that yourself, right, because you didn't want to be that.

(40:17):
So you went and did the work to make sure that you weren't that.
And now when you got that, because great good things
happened when hard work and opportunity me right, That's you
know, and it sounds like you didthe hard work.
You got an opportunity and it meant can I can I ask what
what's what, what's the plan now?
Coops, right. So you've got this DJ career
you've left school. Is production part of it?

(40:40):
Are you gonna are you thinking about?
Yeah. Are you thinking about getting
into production? Because that'll hopefully get
you into other markets and stuffIs that.
How much? How much can you talk about?
I think you can. We're.
Gonna start yeah, yeah, yeah. Sick.

(41:01):
I'm on the money back. I go a.
Little bit too. Yeah, this is a little bit off
as well as we'll get released ina cut IT money.
Oh wow. Yeah, you can't give it to.
Us What music production are you?
Doing Yeah, I love you, love your time.

(41:22):
Was Tom Evans Yeah Oh yeah so 1/2 of the journey yeah shout
out the journey, man absolutely the.
Fucking I'm on my. And Ivan Gough who?
Ivan, of course. Yeah.
Yep, Yep. And what was he?
Was Ivan Gough was was he? He was Grant Smiley.
And was he the other half of TV Rock?

(41:43):
Was that Ivan Gough? I'm.
Probably. Yeah, yeah.
Because we've had, we've had Grant Smiley on the pod before,
yeah. Everyone that I'm really bad.
I was names. People's names.
What and what kind of can you give us an insight of the kind

(42:03):
of because the dude just sittingdown with the fucking good.
So what kind of Yeah, you're getting in the room with some
with the right people. What kind of music?
Yeah. Can I just say something about
Tom, how that came about? Yeah.
Because this is how I find it like really interesting that
Coop's kind of, you know, it's just Cooper Smith, you know,
living down in Seaford and whatever saying on playing on

(42:25):
his iPad, playing in the Yeah gym at school or whatever.
And then all of a sudden he's what seemingly like all of a
sudden he's kind of infiltratinghimself.
I don't know how, but into like all the right or all the right
people are coming forward or he's correct associating himself
with the right people and he's really big on that the.
Right, people have noticed him correct, like Mike Toner, Tom

(42:47):
Evans, Ivan Goff, like these guys are legends and Stan the
they they are they're. Correct.
And that just sort of came aboutI think like on.
Authenticity, man. Yeah, on it.
All it is to has to be. Yeah, like who?
Real recognises real? Yes, real recognises real and
and this kid written here and and I'd go back to I have to
keep going back to that decisionof going to the mainstream

(43:10):
school. Yeah.
That has to like because I always try and figure out why,
why are you different groups? And I don't mean I mean why have
you been able to break out and why are you the guy you know and
I'm. Exactly the same and I reckon.
It's that you just got sent to the mainstream school, mum
treated you like a mainstream kid and you just, you didn't
know, like you said, you didn't know.
The kids just dragged you up onto the next level when you

(43:31):
could get up because your mind was no different to.
Everybody. I don't believe my own bull.
You don't believe you're in bullshit, Don't.
Drink your own bath. Water and everyone mourn, bow,
whatever and no more that no. No, in your own mind.

(43:59):
But can I just go back to what'stalking about Tom?
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Let's go to Tom because he does it, Yeah.
Yeah, no, because Tom has been like an absolutely beautiful
like. Mentor and influence.
We love Tom and a great mentor for you.
And that just came about becauseCoop sort of put out on
Instagram. You know, I've got all these
ideas in my head about music production, but I can't, you

(44:20):
know, coordinate my hands enoughto, you know, use a laptop or
whatever. I need to sit down with someone,
give them all the ideas that arein my mind.
And you need to use your hands to, you know, do whatever Tom
does on the. Computer, yeah, yeah, to
execute. And then it sort of came out
like, I think it was sort of three people removed or
something got in touch with Tom.And then and actually quite a

(44:42):
few people reached out to Coops to want to support him.
But there was just something about sort of Tom's message that
we thought sounded like super genuine and.
Just I wouldn't say the same, but it's in that same.
Yeah, and he was just sort of localish to us and.
L Bell Yeah, my a banger. Otherwise he.

(45:06):
Message, message. You just saying let's make a
banger. Yeah.
From Tom. What was that like, man?
Because he's made some bangers like this.
This is an Aria artist, man, that have made some some iconic
summer tracks across our dance floors, man.
So what was that? Yeah, Talk us through that too.
That's mind blowing. Let's make it back up.
But I don't even think it was like Tom's status or profile or

(45:30):
anything. I think it was just because he
was a genuine, just his message was like super genuine and.
Then I was just an Aussie dude. Man, yeah.
And I drove. It's just a bloke like I drove
you over there and like met him for the first time.
No. Or did he come over to your
house? No Emma.
Emma or Yeah, and no more. No, I'm at the door and I had

(45:58):
never met that. You were so nervous.
Yes, but I you weren't there. I wasn't there.
No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no.

(46:20):
And now you catch up probably once a fortnight or whatever and
still do your music production. And what are you working on
right now? Music that's.
What you gonna say keeping it? And say that you're working on

(46:41):
some music. Is Eugenius, because that's Tom.
That's is that label that you might be coming out.
No, no, no, no. No.
That's so good. Yeah.
So you've signed a contract, I'msaying it, you've signed a
contract for four songs that youguys are producing and.
That's amazing, man. Congratulations, dude, because

(47:01):
that's. All.
Yeah, yeah, because I think that's, that's how you break
into those other markets, right?Because there's only so many
people that can, there's only somany Chinese whispers or people
that can remove that they can say, hey, have you checked out,
you know what I mean coupes. But once you start producing
some music and you connect that with it, that music sort of

(47:23):
transcends the markets, which allows you to then sort of,
yeah, get into those markets. It's it's pretty epic.
Epic. Can I ask?
I've got I've got 1 burning question because you know, we're
all the same here, mate. What's your what was your
decision making once you first got into the clubs?
Was anyone trying to flip your pills and get you into the
disabled toilets, you know, having a sniff?
You know what what was what was the go because you know, that's

(47:45):
pretty common place out there, you know, were you exposed to
that coupes? What was your decision making
like? You were a good.
Decision maker. Yeah.
Oh, over there. Because I wasn't known for my
decision making. Oh, over there.
I don't know. They have one more for me.

(48:08):
They are. We want to be there, but we will
never. Oh, ah, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ah. And say it again, we will never.

(48:31):
Oh all. The DJ, all your DJ mentors said
they'll never offer you. Anything but what?
I can do, but I've got 3 here for 15.
No, no, no, that's cool. Yeah, because it's you know
what? One thing I won't.

(48:53):
He doesn't pay, Yeah. That's great because I think I
learned that I came up in a different generation.
We didn't learn, like I'm a lot older.
We just partied, right. And then you burnt out and then
there was no career left at the end of it.
You know what I mean? You got you sort of left.
But I think that, you know, these days they, especially guys
like Mike, are changing the, the, in the, the industry, you

(49:16):
know, like run clubs. Yeah, starting run clubs and
stuff and showing people how youcan, you know, you can, you can
live this, this life. You can do it in a healthy,
sustainable way that you can, you know, you get the best out
of it and you're not left sort of scarred at the end of it.
So a lot of people get left scarred at the end.
Like I was. Saying the DJ world is an ocean

(49:45):
and a lot of what? A.
Lot of sharks, Yeah, a lot of sharks.
Men, No 100. Percent.
Yeah, they. Drown but you've, I think you've
always had in your mind. That like 1.
That it's your job. And that's something like I've
drilled into your mind like before every gig, I'll say,
Cooper, remember, you're working, you know?

(50:05):
I think you if you lose sight ofthat coop, I think the ones that
lose sight of that, that's when the dream slips away.
But if I think you got to stay single minded and and and and
that's got to be yeah, you got to work's got to be worked.
You know what I mean? Because I think that's where
where when the ones that get where the line gets blurred and
that's where. Have you ever seen the Avicii
documentary? That's a fascinating, yeah, that

(50:27):
that's a fascinating documentaryabout about the lifestyle of the
DJ and and then him getting caught up and then he becomes
the machine and then he all these people rely on him and all
this. But that's a good documentary.
You should you should watch coops.
But I've got another question, dude.
Cheeks, what's going on with chicks?
So at what point where you know,when when we're sort of, you

(50:49):
know, at what point did you start to look at the fair ladies
and start to think, oh, what's going on over here?
And then what's, what does that sort of look like for you coops?
When when the oh when when the love like.

(51:12):
In your ocean is different different women.
Yeah, and live with the wrong one if you're with.
The wrong person it's. Going to if you are.

(51:44):
What is he saying, Mum? Some of.
The stuff I have to bloody translate.
I don't know, I'm just. Going to translate and sanitize

(52:05):
at the same time. No, no, no.
Cooper's just saying he's got tobe like quite mindful of any,
you know, interactions with women in the club because, you
know, before he knows that there's a picture of him with
someone, a woman's tongue down his throat.
And someone shared that. But.
Oh. Really.
Yeah. But I think, I don't know if
that's true, but I think what you say, what you say is that

(52:33):
when all the DJs that have come before you, you know, that are
20 years older than you, that you speak to quite a lot, always
say to you like, you know, if you're gonna date someone, date
someone outside the industry. Yeah.
That's sort of their top. Not a not a groupie, not someone
coming up come coops, coops, coops.
You want someone that falls in love with coops and then finds
out about the. DJs Oh my, oh boy, you don't

(52:59):
want. To catch any diseases.
And that's going to be a bit tricky for your coups because,
you know, as these 4 tracks go international, you know, you're
going to, you're going to, you are going to get people like
that, right? So you are going to have to be
aware of figuring out who likes you for coups and who likes you
because, you know, for the wrongreasons, I suppose.

(53:21):
For your drink. For your drink, guys, All those
three Yankees you're not eating.All right.
What? Yeah, but yeah, you, I'll.
Keep saying it's very depressingto watch what a girl could do

(53:44):
for a vodka and soda. Hey, hey, coops Bron, what's
what's a what's a week like for you guys?
How many gigs do you play coops?Just a bit of an insight into I
saw you at the The Australian Open.
Yeah, that yeah, man. Like how often is this
happening? You're putting in the work
training with the boys, you know, like what's what's a week

(54:07):
look like? Yeah, well, Oh no.
Hangovers because Coupes has made the decision of no
drinking. Good boy.
Good. Boy.
You can't control yourself with this.

(54:27):
Yeah, you know what it is? Decision making.
I told you before. I'm not known for me decision
making and beer doesn't help so.You're in the gym a lot.

(54:48):
Oh my, little more what? At the moment, no more.
You make sure your week's prettynormal.
Hard to live in the world for that.

(55:14):
It's hard to live in an unrealistic world.
Part and five night away, yeah. Yeah, it's not really.
It's not sustainable for sure. Partying all the time.
And then I am all but, oh, is that who I am or is that who I

(55:44):
want? Yeah.
True. So you've got to stay true to
what you want to do and what your week looks like.
Well, well, Oh no. Boom boom, boom, boom boom.

(56:04):
Boring. Boring person when he's doing
everyday life I think. I think we're all like that.
Good. Yeah.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
We all enjoy the quiet times. So tell me.
So you go to the gym. So a gym is important to.
Yeah. Keep the strength.
Yeah, then no. Have a.

(56:31):
Routine's important to you. Yeah, OK, but you are in the
gym. We've just got like a garage
just sort of half converted intoa gym sort of situation.
You got the mirrors in there mate, You're flexing you in
there. Hey, can I, can I ask, speaking
about the gym, what about bullying?
Did you experience much bullyingat school and stuff growing up
and, and how did you deal with that?

(56:52):
Coupes. 101 the egg, Oh my God. And then Oh my, and that what

(57:14):
happened. So a bit of verbal.
Luck. So you'd get people sort of
yelling out and just saying I'm not not nice.
One on. OK, regular.
Just one time someone used the Rword to what just called you
that and then. And the O.

(57:44):
Cooper reckons that someone saidhey, you R word, and then Cooper
said at least my mum's not a junkie.
And then that was the end of it.Yeah, cool.
So it sounds like it wasn't. It wasn't again, it must be
again going back to the going into the school into just
throwing in and because the other kids just get conditioned

(58:05):
as well, right, because they getused to coops.
It's just coops and. Well.
That's what I think, yeah. And it's well, a lot of it's got
to do with what who Cooper is and his personality and the fact
that he can. And I guess the way we've sort
of parented him in that if someone does say that, then, you
know, my parenting thing probably wouldn't be to say

(58:25):
something rude back, but. Mine is so I've got three kids
and mine is. But like, that works and, you
know, Coops could stand up for himself.
And I think because Cooper's gotan extremely healthy ego, as you
have ever. Seen and highly intelligent.
Yes, he can hold his own and youknow.

(58:47):
I think it's nice. And it doesn't affect and it
doesn't affect. It clearly doesn't affect you
either. Well, it's.
Nice that he shows he's not an easy target as well Yeah
correct. That someones gonna hit the he's
gonna hit the ball back to him yeah so I can maybe certain
bullies. I don't think it appreciate
that. So they might go well.
That Albert and what the and what that bull that well, that.

(59:13):
Yeah. I mean.
Yeah, because it's, I don't think those people are bullying
about the disability. They're just bullying people who
might have happened to have. Yeah.
A disability or not a disabilityand.
It's a reflection on them, right, Anyone that's out there
projecting that it's more of a reflection on them anyway, as

(59:34):
long as people know that and it sounds like you do coops and you
know who you are because it's the people that don't know who
they are. I guess that kind of effects
them a bit. But as long as you know you are,
and I tell my kids all the time,you know, because they always
come home and say such and such said this and I say I don't
fucking care. Do you don't even want to hear
about it because it's a non subject to me because, you know,

(59:55):
it's just it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
What if someone says that you'rethis?
Does that make you that? No.
So what are we talking about? Do you know?
What I mean, yeah. Oh, oh, oh, Oh my.
Oh, oh, oh, my, oh, oh, my. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

(01:00:21):
no. What that?
Well, that's right. Yeah.
You're a bit more sort of knowledgeable about, you know,
if someone does say something rude or derogatory or whatever,
you know that it's their problem.
Yeah, you're kind of able. To just deflect it and and move
on. The well.

(01:00:42):
Pay for your psychologist. But.
But I think like in high school.In high school copes.
The thing that like you did really struggle with was like
those peer interactions or getting, you know, Cooper would
often come home and say, you know, he found it quite hard to
sort of make real friends because they were just thinking

(01:01:05):
at a different. And the communication maybe, the
communication barrier maybe and,and the assumptions that they're
making as well, kids. Would be making.
Not really. It was more to do with the
goals, I guess, that those kids had, for their lives were very
different to Cooper's. So Cooper would say to them, you

(01:01:25):
know, what are your goals for when you finish high school?
What are your dreams? What are your ambitions?
Whatever. And they were really just
thinking about what they were gonna be doing on Friday night.
Yeah, right. Yeah, so.
They sort of. You found it hard to.
Oh, no way. Boom.
Oh, Oh my way. You didn't find the point of

(01:01:46):
doing ice on the weekend? Like why would you do it?
Oh my, Oh my. Yeah, no, it sounds, do you know
what it sounds like? It sounds like Coop, which you
know, we've learnt a lot today. Is not only is, is your mind
that you're you are highly intelligent and mature.
So you were you were a lot more mature than those kids because

(01:02:08):
you were looking to have intelligent conversations about
what you wanted to do with your career or your life and have a
look at you now. Do you know what I mean?
Like you're sitting, you're sitting on a you know, that's
that's done well, you left school in year 11.
Some of those kids I'm tipping are probably one year out, am I
right? They'd be one year out of school
maybe. Yeah.
So they'd be one year out of school, probably on the ice on
the weekend, just so that just to lend into your joke.

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But, you know, maybe they're still, they're starting to think
about that now, Cooper. Right.
But you're sitting here, your career is is, you know, your
career is often it's flourishingand they're playing catch up.
So. But no.
All right. Oh boy.

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Oh, oh, oh. Another way then.
I'm not. I'm not.
Keep saying now it's sort of like another social problem is
that when he's out. You've got a few problems.

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Another social problem is like when he's out and then people
are saying what that you're thatyou're too driven or whatever
and that you've got what are you?
What were you just saying? No, no.
Oh my. They're like, oh, Oh my, hang
on, you're doing a lot and they're not.

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Doing anything so they feel inadequate.
Yeah. You're right.
You're too sick. Oh my.
That's not my. Problem.
Well, you are, you are sort of, well you are doing that by going
out there and working hard and not giving other people too many
excuses. No, man, anyone out there that's
got an excuse just, you know. Yeah.

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Have a look. Look at the mirror, man.
Have a look. At the fucking oath, man, you
get everything. The world's against you and
you're and you're just, and you're winning.
And we're all that but bound andwhenever I am a bit not more in

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the mirror. And you would though I want
that. When you get a bit down or a bit
unmotivated, you look in the mirror and you say you will die
one day. Grow up.
Yeah, that's great advice. Man, and I never do.

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And no more and all that, all that.
Otherwise they will be. Yeah, well, it takes lots of
different. People.
In the world, doesn't it? Say it again, I'll translate it.

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Oh man, oh man. All right.
But I'm not more all by all there are there and never do and
all that. I don't know what they were.

(01:05:32):
Saying that, like within societythere's people that, you know,
say they're going to do stuff but they don't do it, which
annoys him. But then you're secretly quite
like that because otherwise thensociety would be too
competitive. Yeah.
Hold. On loves, loves the barrier to
entry and and coops just like this has been an awesome chat

(01:05:55):
and I just, you know, like you're you're having a crack,
you're having a crack at life. You've got your mum, your best
mate by your side. Can can you can you leave us
with something? Can you sort of talk to us about
what? What advice would you give
people out there? And you touched on it a bit
earlier, but you know, life's flicked you a couple of lemons
and you're offending can making lemonade.

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So, so what's you know, what's what, what should people be
focused on? Good help or hang around so the.

(01:06:51):
People you hang around are really, really important, so
look at the circle of friends that you have and it's similar
to sort of what you're wearing. You want to.
Have a solid circle that's thereto support you and.

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And not, otherwise you won't getto.
Where you want to be? Yeah, OK, great advice.
Surround you. Surround yourself with people
that you maybe want to be, you want to learn from.
They can guide you. And you're pretty young

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yourself, but yeah. Always hang out with you.
Better than you. Hang out with people you want to
aspire to. Don't hang out with.
Her no ho. No hoper.
Oh, no bit. Oh oh.
You're cutthroat. Yeah, you're.
Bit of yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, don't mince your words.

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Love it. Love it, coops Bron.
Well done. And well done to you, Bron.
You know, like. Thank you.
I do have a husband and two other children also support a
Cooper in this journey. No, for sure.
And it's, yes, beautiful to meetyou guys.
And a. Dog and a dog.
We got a dog. And a dog.
The dog's. Your biggest supporter?

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I know, but no more than anyone.Now, thank you guys and well
done Cooper. Keep keep knocking them down.
We're keen to see these 4 tracksthat are going to be they're
going to break the Internet. You're going to be.

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On an American talk show talkingabout it one day.
You'll have to remain very PC. Well, you've been on Australia's
number one podcast, so that's a good start.
Thank you. Awesome, awesome.
I've got one more question. Sorry guys, I always do it.
Then we could keep talking dreamgig.

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I've got a dream gig for ya. But I want to know where, what
stage? What is the dream gig and when?
When do we and I'm coming when you when it happens.
I'll carry your records on the net on a necklace you.
Wear, but where's your? Dream gig.

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And everywhere. Space Ibiza or Space?
Miami. Oh, yeah.
I've been to space. Space.
I've. Yeah, that's for me.
I'll tell you where I want. I want to see you play directly
after the journey on the market stage at Rainbow when it comes

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back. Imagine that.
Imagine that. The boys warming up for you
coupes. Oh.
That would annoy. Them.
They would love it man. They would love it.
Well, I I. Locally want to play electric?

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Don't. You.
Oh yeah? Well, that will happen for.
Sure you want to make some. Instagram model stands.
Well, well done and let's work towards those goals.
That's amazing. Yeah, that's awesome.
And Bron, you're, you're an absolute superstar as well, man.

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A lot of yeah, a lot, a lot of respect and, and hats have got
to go to you because, you know, you've been there with Coops the
whole way. And, and yeah, Coops is
testament to yeah, how you guys have brought him up.
So mad respect. Thank you.
Yeah, you've done. A little bit, yeah, a lot.
Of. Them.
That's a whole other podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Jim Cooper But you keep doing you coops, you keep showing the
world, man, that there's no fucking limitations, that, you
know, you just got to rock up. You just got to believe and you
just got to have a go because that's what it is, right?
You just decided you had a dream.
I'm going to fucking I'm going to do.
I'm going to work hard, I'm going to believe.
And then when you do that, correct me if I'm wrong, the
world opens up, right? If you, you need to start, you

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make the decision, you have the dream, then you start putting 1
foot in the other at lunchtime on your iPad.
You do that and then the world opens up.
People start noticing and you start to see opportunities,
mate. So keep doing it because you've
inspired us. And man, it's countless people
out there that you're inspired. Yeah.
The the helmet on. I.

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Think like. 20. Million maybe?

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And there's that many dreams. Out there, but you're very big
on like manifesting. I don't really know what I do
where I am. Well, you're extremely
persistent. Yeah, I think, I think, I think
you're underselling yourself a bit there, coops.
I think you, you started with your dream, which is you have to
think at first, like if you don't think of it, it doesn't

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exist, right. So you said yourself, you woke
up one morning, so you had a dream, a literal dream.
Some people have, you know thesedreams they cook up.
You had a literal dream. You then went and told your mum
you got no, you got the app and then you said you spent every
lunch time persisting, just practicing on the app.
So you got obsessed with it. And by getting obsessed, it
becomes your passion because people go, oh, do you follow

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your passion? That wasn't your passion.
It became your passion. You, you had your dream, you
went and the better you got at it, the more passionate you
became. And then people started to
notice coups. So you just by being passionate
and by turning up and, and just believing, because if you didn't
believe you could achieve that, you wouldn't have tried,
correct? You would have said, well, I
can't fucking do that. That's too hard or the knobs

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don't work or there's no path for me.
But for whatever reason, you looked at it and you saw it over
you that you believed that you could do it.
And then you had the courage to go fuck it.
I'm going to go tell mum and I'mgoing to get the shit and I'm
going to have a go at doing it. So you did that.
And then by doing that, you, youproved yourself right.
You slowly, incrementally got better.
And then naturally the better you get, the the becomes more,

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you're more passionate about it.And that's when people start to
see your passion and it starts to bleed into them and you start
to get opportunities. So yeah, Coupsman, you
absolutely manifested this and drove this and and I think your
mum's been in the passenger seat.
Got to enjoy the ride. Tall poppy syndrome.

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Massive issue. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm with your
coupes. I'm with you.
But keep track of mate. We're going to be following your
journey. You know what I'm saying?
Benny will keep me up. I'll.
Be coming to the Space Ibiza mate, we're coming to shoot.
If you have a plan to space Ibiza, we're coming to shoot a

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podcast. That is a guarantee.
In the. Room.
Yeah, I'm in the green room. Yeah, absolutely, dude.
Thanks again guys, and thanks for coming in coups.
Thank you. Thanks, Brian, Thank you.
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A lot of perspective there, a lot of great lessons.
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team. People can find a better version
of themselves if they choose. You just need to go start some
shit. Action is all that matters.
Be a man, if you would think. I look back now and I'm like,
well, that took some guts. We can't, we can't, we can't.
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