Skip This If You Hate Fun: A CB Radio Revival

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you like the salt, sand and sun and maybe a little
CB radio, then you're gonnalike our guest tonight.
Next on Live Free and Ham.
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Wall k4 ogm all right , cool.

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We're not going to do thatsegment right now.
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Mailbag is what I ladies and gentlemen, can I
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Everybody we got some news.
Slow down, boog, let me handlethis.
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Congratulations, you've got maillike I said, this is a top
quality production show.
Tonight I'm telling you guysyou are in for a treat.
No doubt it's that vegetarianbrisket.

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It's starting to affect mybrain.
Anyway, over to Todd therebecause we've got actually well,
paul's got a win link.
I don't know if you want toshare that.
I didn't get any mail.
You didn't get any mail.
Okay, well, I know Bob said hewas going to send you something
because I did see a text messageabout that, but, uh, nothing
yet.
But what do we got in the windlink?
Uh, you know, mailbag there, myfriend.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Uh, well, if, if it would unminimize from my taskbar
, it would be great.
Trying to open up on your uh,uh, non-existent second window,
it will.
So, yeah, I've been.

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I've been having issues with mysecond monitor.
I don't know if it's, uh, the,the cord, the display port cord,
or if it's the, the graphicscard, what it is.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
But hold on, let me, uh, let me relaunch win link,
like we said, or my, it's likemike says you know we are a
bunch of amateurs bunch ofamateurs.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
That's what we're sure.
Hit that one on that.
All right, I got it.
So here we go, uh we go.
Uh, now remind me to updatelater.
So from uh n2mak.
Subject congrats and congrats.
Hi, paul, since I'm doing mywinlink wins wednesday weekly

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check-in, I wanted to send you aquick congrats for getting your
class a license for skydiving.
You deserve a lot of credit forall the hard work, planning,
planning and sacrifices it tookto make it happen.
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crew on getting 500 subs on theYouTube channel.
I know I'm enjoying the podcastand many more are too.

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Keep up the great work.
All 73, mike N2MAK.
And there's a postscript.
This message was sent using thebeta version of the 56 to one
reliance bug out and fed halfwave on 30 meters for work band
Wednesday Leave no band behind.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Brought to you by reliance antenna and Mike and
two MAK insurance, because $20is $20.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Mike.
So I see Mike like beingpresident of the ARRL one day.
You know what I mean, mike likehe does.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Vote for that.
I'd vote for that man.
That would be one he really is.
So you let Mike start running.
Very cool.
Well, mike, thank you again forsuch an awesome win link and,
uh, appreciate you.
I mean, at this point, you knowwe're gonna have to have
multi-level win link statuses,you know, for all of our uh, you

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know honorary members that arein that crew.
So, uh, you know we'll have towork on that in the background.
But, either way, good on that,and so with that we're now going
to roll into a segment that weall really like here.
It is everyone's favoritesegment.
And now a little somethingextra with Todd WNSTJ.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Still a general.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yes, yes, he's still a general yes, yes, he's still a
general, but we still love him.
Well, we finally got thissegment right where it needs to
be.
So, uh, let's uh kick thelittle script off.
You know, hey, you know, you'veheard it here.
We always help todd study forhis extra class license.

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I always say with each episodewe pick three questions.
Sometimes the same questionkeeps coming up week after week
after week.
Eventually we'll get it inthere and lock it in, but we're
working towards him getting hisextra class license and working
through the extra class questionpool, the whole entire pool
this time.
So we're working hard and Iknow it's been a slog, but

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Todd's been doing an awesome joband he keeps plugging away at
it and he keeps tolerating Pauland I hazing him often, but
that's kind of par for thecourse, you know.
So if you'd like to followalong not the hazing part, of
course you can always head overto hamstudyorg.
It's a great resource to helpyou prepare for your test and

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it's recommended by four out offour volunteers examiners and I
uh condone that and um, you know, uh, with that, you know, we
obviously want to hand it overto our ve quiz master mr n1.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Og please take it away, sir, all right.
Well, welcome to the ve teamthere.
Eric, I sent you you an emailearlier.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
I just saw that earlier.
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
So, yeah, welcome to the VE team.
Yes, so, Todd.
Question number one is aquestion that you have seen
before, so I hope you get itright this time.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
How do you know I got it wrong?
Because we've seen it beforetoo.
I got it right Because it popsup.
I too I got it right because itpops up.
I assume I get it wrong listen.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I actually I was reviewing past episodes and this
one came up, and so it's justall too fortuitous that you get
it again tonight.
Wow.
So there we go on the Smithchart shown in figure E, nine,
dash three.
What is the name for the largeouter circle on which the

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reactants arcs terminate?
Is it a polar axis, b impedanceaxis, c, c reactance axis or D
prime axis?

Speaker 1 (12:53):
I don't know this is going to throw him off.
He's playing the wrong song.
The Jeopardy.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
I think it's either A or D.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'm going to go with B Walt.
You got one, you want to jumpin there?

Speaker 4 (13:13):
I'm thinking C, if I remember, if I heard it right.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
God, now, you guys really screwed me up.
So final answer Todd so finalanswer, todd, which God I
reactance axis just seems toocommon sense, right, like it
says which reactance arcsterminate.

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So I don't think it's that one.
The questions aren't that easy.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
All right, I'm going to say Well, you can eliminate
two off the bat, which would beobviously what there's no.
Polar axis has nothing to dowith radio, right?
Yeah, I know, okay, and primeNot really.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
It's either B or C.
Yeah, I'll go with C.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
C is the right answer .

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Ooh nice, there we go .

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, so yeah, with some help from Walt there, but
yes, if you remember, the tophalf is impedance, the bottom
half is reactants and all of thereactants arcs terminate in the
outer circle, which is thereactants axis.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
I have an antenna book out by the American Radio
Relay League.
I better get that questionright.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
And that book would be for those that don't know
salty waltz portable.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Look at me, I look at the advertising.
Get your name from the americanradio relay league back to you
love it, love it, love itawesome well, awesome, more
question, all right.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Bring it on Now that we've come back from our
commercial break, todd.
Question Number two why do DXstations often transmit and
receive on different frequencies?
Is it a, the uh, to separatethe calling stations from the DX

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stations.
B because the DX station may betransmitting on a frequency
that is prohibited to someresponding stations.
C to improve operatingefficiency by reducing
interference.
Or is it D?
All of these choices arecorrect.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
It's E, it's E To make the sad hymns yell, he's
five up.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Isn't that a choice?
It's five up.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I'm going to go with D.
All these choices are correct.
Yes, you are correct, my friend.
Yes, two for two, all of thesechoices are correct.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yes, you are correct, my friend.
Yes, two for two.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
All of these choices are correct.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
That's a guarantee for sure.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Alright.
Well, you're doing much betterthis week.
You've gotten a little bit ofhelp, but you're doing better.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
You got the Walt luck .

Speaker 4 (16:23):
He's ready.
Take the test, let's go.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
For the third and final question of the evening.
You've also had this one before, thanks.
What notifications must begiven before transmitting on the
630 or the 2200 meter bands?
Is it A an environmental impactstatement must be filed with

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the Department of the Interior.
B a special endorsement must berequested from the FCC.
C.
Operators must inform theUtilities Technology Council of
their call sign and coordinatesof the station.
Or.
D.
Operators must inform the faaof their intent to operate,

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giving their call sign anddistance to the nearest runway.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
I am not a pilot.
I play one one on TV.
I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
I think it's C, because I think I got it wrong
last time, so I'm going to gowith.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
C.
You definitely did get it wronglast time.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Thanks, such an ass.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I think it's B.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
That's what I think I picked last time.
Yeah, I like the UtilitiesTechnology Council, though it's
a good group of guys.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
You got any guesses there, Walt?

Speaker 4 (17:54):
I'm just going to get this totally guess.
I'll guess C.
I remember this question.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
I can't remember what the answer was, Well.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
C is the correct answer, oh there you go nice,
thanks, wow.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Three for three, todd , holy crap, wow.
So, uh, before you transmit onthe 630 or 2200, meter bands you
must inform the utilitiestechnology council of your call
sign and coordinates of thestation.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
There you go, Bravo, Bravo, dude.
Three for three.
Nice job.
No song tonight.
No song tonight at all.
Yeah, no song at all.
All right, Cool, let's go backto our regular scene there.
You're flying around there, myguess.
Yeah, animated backgroundsthere, my friend.
People jump under the skyeverywhere.
So, all right, Well, with that,you know, if you're on the

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journey of studying for yourtechnician general or maybe your
extra class license, like Todd,then hamstudyorg is always a
great and awesome resource forgetting that ticket.
And again, if you've receivedyour license, or maybe you've
upgraded, we want to know.
You can head over to ourDiscord and you can post that in
our Discord, or you can send usan email, livefreeandham at
gmailcom, because, hey, we wantto recognize you for all the

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awesome hard work that you putin to get your upgrade, or maybe
you got your ticket for thefirst time.
Actually, I do have a new hamin our club, Chris.
He's a blind ham and his callsign is KB1, I think it's KC1,
WXP, and the only reason why Iremember is Windows XP.

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So you know, he got his call.
He showed up at our clubmeeting and it was good to see
him and he was super happy tohave his call sign and then be
able to start getting on the air.
So he's doing a lot of reallycool stuff and opening my eyes
Sorry for the pun there to tolearning all about blind hams
and radios and all the thingsthat I just kind of take for

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granted.
He's just showing us somereally cool ways to be able to
communicate using All-Star andDMR and all of things like Echo
Link and everything else likethat, and he is an awesome guy.
And actually I find aninteresting kind of tidbit he
actually sings professionally,you know, the national anthem
and stuff.
So I've got to find a couple ofclips around that.

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But that's really cool to seeand he's a really cool guy.
So you know he's definitelywant to to get to know more and
learn more.
Uh, you know from him for sure.
So, uh, Paul, are there any uhyou know, uh folks you saw call
sign wise coming from you oranywhere?

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Not that I've seen no .
Um.
I will say, though, that we weonly have one person registered
for our upcoming session on inJuly, so if you're in the area
and you want to test with us, uh, just go to find us.
Gsara on ham study and uh, atJuly 12th, I believe, is the

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next session, right.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Very cool.
Yeah, definitely sign up.
And, uh, you know, we'reobviously moving more towards
the online stuff too, too aswell with that, so we'd love to
have you come on anytime and youknow, hey, eventually we might
move into, uh, you know, alivery and ham kind of, uh, you
know, ve testing crew, which iskind of cool.
What's the one after the 12th?
Uh, it's the next, the october,I think.
Yeah, september, october, right?

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yeah but you know, hey, if wemove faster than we usually do
to go to my last baseball gameforever coaching, okay, wow, so
that's a monumental day then wecan.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
We can do online sessions now.
Yeah, sweet.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well then, we can definitely uh plan that.
So you know, maybe, hey, if youwant to, you know, get tested
soon.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Reach out to n1og and uh, you know can't you guys
just come over and test me?

Speaker 1 (21:56):
when you want a personal, you know serenaded,
you know we'll play music in thebackground, like candles kind
of thing yeah no, but we mightdo a live, though you know we'll
record that.
All right, okay, well, withthat then.
Uh, with that, let's, you know,get into our ham radio week

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before we kind of get into thetopic tonight.
But uh, you know, in our usualformat we always like to ask our
guests first.
Uh, walt, how has yourhemorrhea week been, my friend?
What's been going on?

Speaker 4 (22:27):
it's been epic.
I've had a good week, got onthe beach a couple times, um
built a vertical in, fed halfwayfor 20 meters and sat there and
just talked away to australia.
Uh, what was that?
Friday morning?
Thursday morning last week, aswe all know, the sun has not
been friendly to us in the HFbands.

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Since then I picked the rightday to go, going to go out
tomorrow and try to get outthere.
But other than that, I got somenew keys.
I've been working on my CW.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I thought that was a mistake.
When I saw the video pop out onthe Morse code stuff, I'm like,
where did this come from?

Speaker 4 (23:09):
This must be like one of those like fake news things
Actually I use if you watch thevideo I'm actually sending CQ,
or with both, both for thepaddle and with a straight key.
I really, man, I want to getbetter at CW because I have here
I have three or four, as I'veseen them on eBay pop up like
the Hilltopper, you know radiosthat you really just can't get.

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That I want.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
I over the last year and a half.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Yeah, After the past year and a half or so I see one
pop up.
I'll buy it on eBay with theintention.
I figured it would motivate meand it has to get better and
start operating portable CW.
And I did a video about thekeys and learning or whatever,
and it's probably my worstviewed video ever.

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So I don't know if the CWvideos will be a big thing for
the channel, but hey, it's a bigthing for me.
It's something I wanna do, sowe'll put them in there.
I'm not like Thomas Witherspoon.
He could just like go out, turnthe camera on, sit out there
for a half hour and bang awayand everybody wants to watch the
video.
But, um, I love watching hisstuff as well.
He's interesting, he inspiresme.

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I know, I know Thomas, butthat's been my week, uh,
basically, uh, when I that oneday on the beach, that was
really good, and then, otherthan that, I just I figured all
the time I have right now I'mkind of in between jobs, not
working, enjoying life and, uh,trying to get better and better
at cw yeah, and well, I don'tthink it would affect your
channel that much.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
I think it actually, if anything, will, you know,
just add one more variationelement.
But you know, just like thomaswitherspoon can get out there
and bang out CW in a matter offew seconds.
It comes natural for you forsideband, even if the bands are
in the dumpster, you're makingcontacts with people halfway
around the world.
I saw a few of the ones whereyou just set up on the beach

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early morning when you just gotyour camper and you and your
wife went camping, the bandswere like a G4 storm at that
point and you were still makingcontacts Meanwhile like a G4
storm at that point and you werestill making contacts.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Meanwhile I'm with Digital Rancher and I could
barely scrape together 10contacts in four hours.
See, I tell you, we discussedthis on the Northeast show.
I'm farther south now and I geta higher muff.
I knew the whole time I was inRhode Island in the last two
months.
There, 10 was never open.
The first weekend I was homedown here in North Carolina,

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virginia man, 10 was open again.
It was like, and I looked atthe map and you know the 28
number was just a little bitnorth of me but way south of you
guys, I mean.
So that has a little bit to dowith it, and we all know the
real magic is being 10 feet awayfrom the ocean, as I'm sitting
there on the beach.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
That's really what's making it happen.
Yeah, you're really making mywife's dream come true of moving
to the ocean, Just because ofthe fact that I have the benefit
of actually being able to dosaltwater activations.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yeah, I'll tell you good place for you guys.
I just spent a year there andabsolutely fell in love with
rhode island.
Rhode island, for is man, it'sto me, it's just amazing.
I I'm gonna miss it.
I really am.
Um, I don't miss it right now.
I'm glad to be home, but in thelong run, it was a wonderful
place to spend a year of workingtime.

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It really was.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Although you know, like now that I got a little
piece of your insider, you know,with a family kind of life and
where you live, you've got iteverywhere.
I mean you literally arewalking distance from everything
pretty much.
And you know, I mean you'repretty much surrounded by ocean,
no matter what where you're at.
And yeah, it kind of makes me alittle jealous because I'm like
that's like kind of ourPortsmouth area up here in New

(26:46):
Hampshire and stuff.
So you know, it's very like,almost like kind of walking
through you know time just tosee it in a different location.
But yeah, nice little digsthere, man, I, you know I'm
impressed.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
It's fun.
It's a cool place to live.
You didn't see the video.
The video if you watched thevideo a couple videos ago where
I took the ferry across theharbor to Wisconsin, uss
Wisconsin for Museum Ships onthe Air Day on that video, when
I was that morning, when I wascoming across, that ferry lets
off at the landing there andthen it goes about the next stop

(27:21):
.
It goes over to our ballpark.
We have the Baltimore OriolesAAA farm team.
That's right there in theharbor as well.
What's really cool about thatis every night I can sit up on
my third floor living room it'sa circular and the windows face
out looking over to Norfolk.
Every night that we have a homebaseball game.
At the end of the game I get tosit there and watch fireworks

(27:42):
sitting on my living room couch.
That's kind of cool too.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
That's nice.
I have to ask the insidequestion.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Do you get coffee for free?
Yeah, he looks me up, my sonlooks me up.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
I figured so.
I didn't see him waiting inline too long and all of a
sudden it was like see you later, I'm off with my coffee and I'm
like he either edited it reallywell or he got it for free and,
you know, moved on.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
It's nice to know the guy that runs the place.
It's pretty cool, very cool.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Awesome, All right.
Well, we're going to get into alittle bit more around that
stuff because we got some reallycool stuff to talk about
tonight.
But with that, over to you,Paul, uh, how's your?
Uh?
Hammer, a week been my friend.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Um, well, so the only thing I did, uh, even remotely
radio related this week, um wasI got to go to a demo, uh,
skydive, um, to help out asground crew.
Uh, I brought my HT with mebecause I can, I can hear the
airman.
Uh, so you know we were, uh, wewere trying to, you know,

(28:48):
listen to where, when, when wecould finally hear the plane
coming close enough that youknow we could make radio contact
.
And and, uh, I was like youknow, I really need to invest in
an air band HT.
Not that I need to buy any moreradios, but if there's a used
one kicking around somewhere,I'm going to try and grab one.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
That's a marine band HT.
I live by the water.
If you're going to be flyingout of airplanes, you need one.
It's no different than me beinga salty guy, Paul, having one
of these.
You definitely need an air bandHT.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, well, I got me being a salty guy, paul, having
one of these.
You definitely need an airbandhc.
Yeah, well, I got severalmarine ones because you know
I've got an ocean boat.
But yeah, yeah, I need, I needan airband one now todd, we see
your mouth moving, but no audio.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
That's why you can't dive in.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I had myself.
Now you're working, oh, therewe go.
So why do you it?
Why?
Why do you need a ht air bandone, like because you're just
listening to be communicatingwith them?

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, no, I would like to be able to communicate
with the aircraft.
The ft3d won't transmit right.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Are you allowed to do that?
Communicate?

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Well, I mean, the girl that was on the HT with me
yesterday is not licensed in anyway, shape or form, and she was
talking to the plane.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay, I mean that was a serious question, because I
didn't know if there was somekind of rule that you had to be
a licensed pilot or something,because you're basically saying
anyone could just get on the airband to start talking shit well
, I mean.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
So, like, I mean I listen all day, every day, right
, and I'll I'll, I'll hear the,the pilot talking to the air
boss.
Yeah, uh, you, the guy on theground and I, I mean the plane
uses a call sign, but nobodyelse is using call signs, right,
yeah, interesting.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah yeah, although can't you mod your uh FT three.
Is that possible?

Speaker 3 (31:01):
No, so the, the Mars mod doesn't, uh, doesn't open it
up to transmit, for am it's,it's still, you know, only
transmits fm so got it okay.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
So maybe maybe a cheap quanchang am.
We will do it because I knowthere's a they have one, you
know.
I know I know a person whomight be able to get you one
really cheap.
So very cool, all right, welldude, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Baofeng has one for $69.89 on Amazon.
How appropriate.
You can go to B-Tech, which isthe American Quan Shang $164.89.
Oh, wow, now if you want to geta really good one, you can get
the Yaesu FTA 250L for $194.89.
Oh wow, now if you want to geta really good one.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
You can get the Yaesu FTA 250L for $198.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Dude, that's still cheaper than what we pay.
Yeah, that's not bad actually,because I was looking at an Icom
that was like $300.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Then they got a nice little tiny one, Airband Com 232
.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Ooh, there are options.
He's got his helmets already inflight and he's already got a,
a borrowed altimeter foreternity.
So you know he's got to startsaving for the parachute.
And you know, maybe once theparachute finally gets to a
certain point, then you knowhe'll be talking radios again
because he'll swallow the costof what a parachute is and be
like dude, I can afford ahundred dollar radio, no problem
, that's a walk in the park, asmike says, because everything is

(32:37):
, you know, money for mike.
198 is 198.
Guys, come on.
Uh, cool, all right.
Well, dude, have a question foryou.
So is there for folks that likedive in or parachute into, like
those arenas, like do you haveto be a certain class level to
do that, or is it just?

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, there's a pro rating that they have to get.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Is that like above the E rating that Carlos has or
to get?
Is that like above the e-ratingthat carlos has, or like
somewhere in between?

Speaker 3 (33:09):
no, so it's, it's, it's an in-between thing.
So you can, I think after yourc license you can, you can start
getting those, those specialtyratings, um, but yeah, it's just
, it's just the.
You know, understanding the,the winds and how everything
changes, you know, and yourlanding zone is considerably

(33:31):
smaller and it's filled withobstacles, like light towers,
and you know the nets that runalong.
You know the first it was, itwas kind of cool to be there, um
, you know, walk out on thefield and go, okay, like they
need to watch out for this thingand this thing and this thing,
and you know, uh, fortunately,the winds were very, very light,

(33:54):
uh, light and variable.
So you know, they didn't haveto, you know, do any big
adjustments for wind.
But, um, it was interesting tosee him kind of like thread the
needle between the, where the,the, the light post was and
where the net started, at the,at the foul post line, and, wow,
take some skill I was gonna saythere's also a parallel here.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
I don't know if you've picked up on it.
This is the first time paul'sbeen uh, you know, a parachuter.
Uh, what's the official term?
Skydiver?
Is that what they call theirparachutist?
What's the best?
Way, Skydiver Okay skydiver andTodd, he's been in a baseball
diamond at the same time.
He might not be coaching and hemight not be playing, but he's
in a baseball diamond.

(34:38):
So this is almost like atrifecta.
Here we're building up to it.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
If you take a radio up and you dive through the
maximum usable frequency, whatkind of diver are you?

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Oh boy, I just got that one.
Thank you, Ralph.
We are not a family-friendlyshow, so it's okay.
It's totally fine, man, itworks.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
We're talking about the maximum usable frequency.
Every time I did a video, thecomments were like let's go,
come on made it, made it viral,I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Just on the comments.
Very cool man, awesome.
Well, looking forward to seeingobviously a lot more skydiving,
carlos.
I think you're what planningsoon to do another skydiving
session with Carlos coming up.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Yeah, friday, carlos will be here and we'll get to do
another skydiving session withCarlos coming up.
Yeah, friday, carlos will behere and we'll, we'll, we'll get
to do a bunch of jumps.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Very cool, awesome, sweet.
Well then, we'll be lookingforward to seeing that, for sure
.
And you know awesome on thegrounds crew there and it sounds
like you're getting a lot ofcool like insider you know sorry
the phrase baseball with a lotof the skydiving crew there.
So all good stuff, man, awesome, all right, well over to todd.

(35:50):
Then how was your henry wakeman, my friend?

Speaker 2 (35:53):
uh, it was all right.
I uh haven't really been on theradio much, but I did.
Um, I did get my, uh, my newrate, my new portable radio for
the car and antenna antennamount and I, today I was able to
put on the, um, the molly rackon the outside of the jeep with
the window.
I saw it at near fest.

(36:15):
I thought it was pretty cooland, uh, really cool design the
way it goes on.
It went on like took me fiveminutes really, so I gotta take
it off to mount the antennamount.
And then, uh, I kind of didexploring through the jeep to
see how I'm gonna run it.
It's gonna look really cleanand it's gonna be much better
than the way I had it before.
So I'm pretty happy about that.
I'm just waiting for my 67design, uh r mount and then, uh,

(36:40):
I should be good to go sweet.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
So have you kind of like already done the
envisioning kind of, you know,putting the head up on top of
the dash to see?

Speaker 2 (36:49):
if it works there.
Yeah, so I went to go seeRyan's house or his radio and
put it up there.
So I'm doing a little different.
I'm going to have my phonecloser to me and the radio more
off, to the right, to the rightwhere I used to have it to the
left or it's kind of like in thecenter.
It'll be more to the right andthe phone will be to the left

(37:11):
and, uh, it's going to lookpretty good.
It's a little different design,um, because the center, where
that used to be like the bigtray, um, is, they have a
charging light when you chargethe jeep.
So the bar is actually going tobe like out over the rate, like
right, parallel to the to therate, the top of the radio.
So it was a little bit fartherback.

(37:34):
So I might have to get anotheruh, a shorter uh bar to connect
to, but I've got a whole bunchof sizes, so I'm just going to
wait and see and, uh, we'll playit by ear, so so, yeah, so
that's pretty exciting, um,having a chance to play with the
radio.
Uh, I've just been so busy with,you know, baseball and stuff,
so only got about a month to go.

(37:54):
And then, uh, and then I get mylife back and baseball goes and
zach doesn't want to play inthe fall, he wants to take a
break.
So no good for him.
Kind of happy for that.
So I mean, we'll still do somebaseball, but I won't be doing
every weekend and stuff.
And as for field day, I'm stilltrying I might be able to make
part of field day.
Um, most likely it's going tobe in the evening.

(38:15):
So well, uh, I'm going todefinitely get there and hang
out for a while, make somecontacts, but uh, that's where
we're at awesome.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
yeah, well, looking Well, looking forward to you
know, getting over there to helpyou do a little wiring.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
I'm going to have most of it done before you get
here.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
That's even better.
That just makes me warm becauseit's like I have done my job.
Then, if I'm able to equip youto go do the install yourself
and you're not dependent on mefor tech support, so I've done
my job, then my friend, yeah, Imean, I'm a, I've already
thought it out.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I mean, the only thing I might need, uh, just
some guidance on is, uh, when wecut the wires and stuff.
But I got some better ideas andthe way we did it before Cause
the way we did it before wasthat was half ass.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
It was all spliced together with, uh, electrical
tape.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, but we'll power pole, you know, if you want to
power pole some of that stuff orwhatever, yeah, yeah, well, so
I'm gonna make it nice and cleanand so it's good.
So I'm pretty excited for thatsweet, awesome.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
All right, a question for you.
And now I know the 510 has thatoption where you can plug the
mic into the head or the body.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, decided which one you're gonna go with that's
one of the things I'm kind ofbecause I used to have the mic
run from the body and the wireunderneath the car seat and then
it was like, right by my right,by the stick, shift really this
one.
Now I might be able to put amic holder on the rail and might

(39:41):
be able to just clip it rightto that.
But I'm also wondering how it'sgoing to look.
I don't want the, you know the,the cord hanging over my radio
screen and stuff.
So, yep, it's kind of basic.
I mean, I have a lot of optionsand with that mount you can
move things around.
So I'm not sure yet.
But I am very excited abouthaving the speaker, and ryan

(40:03):
says that the way the speaker isat the top it kind, kind of
bounces off the windshield.
The sound he goes, it's reallyclear and loud.
So he says it's a pretty gooddesign, so pretty happy about
that.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Well, that's good news, man.
You know glad you solved two,you know two problems and, you
know, bought a new radio.
So you know, like we said, youknow, know, we're glad to help
you spend your money there, butyou know you had to buy a brand
new car to spend your money.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
So it all works out.
I get a good deal on the car.
Well, a ridiculous deal.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
It was too good to pass up true, but you had a
working great jeep already, soit wasn't like it was a gas
problem.
But but you know, hey, we allhave gas problems.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Put it this way the amount after selling my 400 and
getting this one week of nothaving that old Jeep bought my
new radio.
So just for saving in gas money.
So my car payments haven'tchanged, they're just going to
go on a little bit longer.
Yep, but my gas is definitely Ihundred dollars a week and I've

(41:06):
only spent since I've had it amonth.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
I've only spent about 30 bucks in gas well, as bike
says 30 bucks is 30 bucks rightthat's right.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah, it beats freaking 400 500, so I'm ahead
of the game right now.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Very cool.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
All right.
So, eric, how was your hamradio week?

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Oh, thank you, Paul, I appreciate that.
My ham radio week oh, let mesee, I didn't do much ham radio.
I'm sort of in the same camp asyou guys.
I've been mostly working on asyou could probably see in the
background there at least up onthe bench I've been putting
together my all-star node that'ssupposed to go in the truck.
I was able to finally get theback seats of my truck modded,

(41:52):
because the year I owned it's in2018, the back seats are
permanently kind of mounted tothe back of the wall.
So if you go in and modify someof the clips, you can actually
make them fold down, whichopened up a whole ton of space
at that point.
So I'm thinking more stuff, butfor right now, I'm just gonna,
you know, basically mount thisand get it all set up so it's

(42:14):
powered off its own battery andthen, once I finally get my
order placed for my oh my gosh,I just it's such a simple name I
always forget it.
It's called the West MountainRadio man.
I can't remember what it is.
It's basically a power you knowoption for tool radios.

(42:36):
If I just West Mountain Radio,I can always forget the name.
And let me go here.
There's one of their DCproducts here, here we go,
powergate.
That's always the easiest oneto remember and I can always
forget the name.
And let me go here.
There's one of the DC productshere, here we go, powergate.
That's always the easiest oneto remember and I can't remember
that damn name.
So yeah, I'm waiting for thatto come in.
They finally announced that theyhad stock, so I ordered that
and so that's coming.
But then, when I put all myseats back in, I didn't pay

(42:58):
attention because I was in arush and and I crushed my cable
for my antenna two meter 440antenna underneath the seat, you
know mount.
And I, when I got back in thetruck, I turned on the radio and
I was like what the heck isgoing on?
Why am I not transmitting?
And I'm like, oh no, did Icrush the cable?
Todd, your video is gone again.

(43:19):
You're missing your dockingstation playing games with you.
Um.
And so I realized my mistake and, un, you know, remove the cable
out of the?
Um, you know the, the crusheduh bracket of the seat, and of
course I pierced the, the jacket.
So now I've got to replace thecable and everything, and of
course the cable I have is thatmini uhf to uh pl2599 from

(43:43):
Diamond and their antennas.
So I have to, you know, orderthat piece and that's the only
people that have it is DXEngineering and that's going to
take like a week.
So yeah, I'm currently notusing my radio on my truck,
which is kind of a bummer,because, you know, I was hoping
to use it but it was just astupid error on my part for not
paying attention to what was inthe way before I decided to
screw the seat bolts down.

(44:04):
So all a bummer.
So, yeah, that's my ham radioweek.
I didn't get a chance to play awhole lot of ham radio.
I've been thinking about goingout and doing it, but the bands,
just you know they're great.
I'm not looking forward to it.
Let's see if Todd's back here.
There we go, todd's back, allright, hallelujah.

(44:26):
You know you gotta put anotherquarter in every once in a while
, or you?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
refresh the machine.
Yeah, I don't know whathappened.
It just it, the whole thing.
Do I hold?
It just went.
Google just kicked me off ofeverything love that mac.
All right well any technicalsupport from you, so you should
be not yet.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Well, you're doing fine and I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Cause, it's easy.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
My, my week has been horribly gone wrong with every
technical problem for computers.
So I don't mind helping myfriends, but you know you end up
falling a little lower in the.
You know the the the line.
So all right.
Well, so with that, you know,like we mentioned, we got walt
on tonight, so we're gonna betalking pretty much.
You know a bunch of things, I'msure, because we all go down a

(45:12):
little rabbit holes when walt'saround.
Uh, because we love to hear allthe stories and all the stuff
going on, um, and it's always ablast to hang out with walt.
Um, you know we obviously pauland I, got to enjoy it firsthand
hanging out while we were downat Marconi's, you know park
there and having a blast.
And you know we got to findsome time.
I know Paul's probably have alittle bit more of an

(45:33):
opportunity to drive right byyou on the way down to.
You know what the heck.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
On the way back from Huntsville, yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Yeah, the way back from Huntsville I'm going to be
in Huntsville On the way backfrom Huntsville.
Yeah, yeah, on the way backfrom Huntsville.
I'm going to be in Huntsvilletoo.
I'll see you there, Paul.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
I'm looking forward to that Mike's coming.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
Mike and I have talked about it.
I don't know if Mike Mike wasgoing to be coming, oh cool.
Mike, is that true?
It's on the maybe list for him,I think.
Okay cool, I saw him at aconvention, so that'd be cool.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Chris Bricker was a maybe too, and I offered him my
couch and he said okay, I'llcome.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
There you go.
Oh man, man, I really you knowI'm slacking here.
So then maybe I don't know wehave our 24-hour poda in
September, so I don't know ifyou want to make a weekend trip
up, we've got a couch at a spotin our trailer.
If you want to come hang outwith us and do a 24-hour poda,
we'll be at the Greenfield StatePark in New Hampshire, and so
we'd love to have you come hangout with us.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
I'll have to check that out.
I'll have to see.
I am going to Huntsville andthen I think it's early October
I'm going to Pacificon with theleague.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
All're September, so we're kind of nestled right in
between.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
I've got to schedule those weekends, then I've been
gone for a year.
I've got to get my wife everyweekend I can, when I'm not
doing ham radio.
As we talked a while back, allof us.
I really want to maybe nextyear in the spring us all go to
a spot either on the beach inConnecticut or Rhode Island and

(47:05):
like, have an all day orovernighter there you know what
I mean and then do a a NewEngland de-expedition together.
That would all be fun.
I'm gonna talk to Izzo andthose guys and that would be a
fun trip as well.
I want to do that, something Iwant to start doing.
Um, you know, maybe, maybe nextyear, especially with you guys
up there.
I mean, you guys have adopted,guys have adopted me.

(47:26):
I'm a, I'm a, I'm a newEnglander.
Now you know what I mean and Iappreciate it.
That was a fun day that we had,though, when we were out on the
at Marconi Park on the Cape.
That was that was.
That was a lot of fun.
I appreciate you guys lettingme hang out with you.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
That was fun yeah, funny thing is is I've got um,
another, uh, one of our uhlisteners for lit free and ham.
I, oh man, I should just pullup his name, otherwise I'm gonna
butcher it.
Um, chris, yeah, let me seewhat's chris, what's his call
sign?
Oh, my gosh, I don't have hiscall sign here if I just keep
going through the emails.
But he picked me, he hit me upand because I had mentioned to

(48:03):
him like hey, I'd love to go doa park down, oh, his call signs,
whiskey eight.
Uh, charlie, juliet Lima, and helives down on the Cape area and
he actually hit me up.
He's like, dude, we should do apodo park sometime.
I'm like, well, funny, you saythat because my dad got me
coming down there on Friday.
So let's go do a podo park.
So we're going to go activateon race point.

(48:24):
So we're going down to a U Sone one, six, nine, six, which
is a small little place just offa race point, and sandwich, so
that's like at the point.
So if the bands suck, we mighthave to do some six meter
contacts because you knowthat'll, that'll give us a
little bit of an advantage,hopefully.
But yeah, I'm advantage,hopefully.
But uh, yeah, I'm lookingforward to that that's, that's
my secret.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Like tomorrow afternoon I'm gonna be on, uh,
my favorite beach, which just sohappens to also be us1299,
first landing, uh, there,virginia beach.
So I'm gonna be there.
Like tomorrow, I'm gonna takeout I got a g, a g106, you know
the, the little radio thateveryone trashed and said it was
garbage.
I'm gonna take it out tomorrow.

(49:04):
What I do is I go there and Iit was garbage, I'm going to
take it out tomorrow.
What I do is I go out there.
I won't go in the afternoon.
I try to hunt DX, but when I'mon that beach and there's no DX,
I just spot myself and do anactivation and you get to see if
the thing works or not.
That way as well.
A couple videos ago I did thatas well.
I just said I made somecontacts.
I'm like you know, know what?

(49:25):
I still want to play radio.
So I just spotted myself and dothat.
But I can imagine the capewould be that way as well.
You guys especially, you know,like, had the weather been
better, we could have went overthe cliff and down to the beach
and operated down there that day, although it was a rainy,
drizzly, cold day when we werethere.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
But you know there's a lot of places there on the
cape where you guys could dothat as well now, is that that
that one of the, the g that uhzygo there is, that the one that
works with the g-sock too, orthat the, that attachment
component, like that?

Speaker 4 (49:55):
yeah, this it's got.
The was the de12.
I got that around here too.
This is the little.
Uh, this is their entry level,bottom of the line.
Uh, this one does not have thetuner, it's just their bottom of
the line.
Qrp 5 watt transceiver theysent me.
They asked me if I wanted it.
I go yeah, this is the one.
I don't know if you guysremember when it came out a

(50:16):
couple years ago, k-murder did avideo on it and he like he
acted like it was dog poop inthe yard and he picked it up.
I was worried that Zygu wasgoing to send the ninjas after
him because he ruined the radiofor him.
I bet he just killed theirsales with that video he might

(50:39):
have.
I don't think they'll ever sendhim.
As a matter of fact, I knowthey'll never send him anything
else.
But you know what he was honest.
I mean, god bless him, and fromwhat I understand, they've done
some improvements to it, sowe'll see.
I'll be honest too.
What I do is, if the radio isthat bad, I just like go, hey

(50:59):
guys, I'm not going to do avideo on this one, send it back,
or whatever.
Or do a video on this one andsend it back, or whatever.
Or do you want it back?
I mean, yeah, I think you'drather me not have a video than
what I'm gonna do.
That's how I do it.
I'm not gonna promote something, but I I can't live with myself
if I'm hurting a businesseither.
So I just don't do a video.
But if I like it, I'll behonest about it.
There's a couple things I'vegotten that I've gone out to do

(51:20):
a video on and I'm like thisthing's garbage, this is not
going to go up, yeah, so Iwasn't aware of this.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Mike just posted this .
Did you guys know that it wasqrp day tomorrow?

Speaker 4 (51:31):
yeah, I did know that , so that's why I'm gonna be out
there as well.
Um, kevin, uh, um, from I, youknow the oh k0 klb right yeah
klb.
Yeah, I may have a hard timeremembering.
Call says yeah, he's beenposting that tomorrow is uh qrp
day, so I'll definitely be upfor that as well.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yeah I might have to go out and activate.
Then I don't think I've got anyof my schedule.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Yeah I'll be on the beach probably Eastern time,
somewhere around 3 o'clockEastern until about 5 or maybe 6
pm Eastern.
I'll be doing a lot of hunting,though I'm not a CQ caller, I'm
a DXer and to be a DXer,especially portable.
You go out and hunt DX signals.
A lot of people go.

(52:14):
Man, you need a live stream soI can get you in the log or
whatever.
I mean I probably have a totalof eight poda activations and
you guys were one of them withme.
I just don't activate a lot, Ijust hunt.
It's easier and nothing againstdomestic calls around the
States.
But I mean, the thrill to me isto operate someone across the

(52:36):
ocean.
You know what I mean and that'sjust what I like to do, but you
know so question how is thatgoing to change with cw now?
like I mean, obviously you canhunt in cw, but no, I, I, I'm
there and my plan was to be apoda guy with cw because at
least to learn, because a cwcontact, a podo contact on cw is

(52:57):
quick.
It's like you know, you know de, k4, ogo.
You know, you know 599, 599, 7,3.
You know boom.
Next one you know cq, cq, k4,ogo.
Call his sign, my back, boom.
Just keep rolling and rolling.
It's a heck of a lot easierthan having a.
It'll be a while before Iragged you on CW, probably a

(53:20):
long while.
I want to get there but yeah,that'll be a little while.
But then all the people thatgive me a hard time from coming
from the CB world, can you knowwhat?
You know what I'm saying?
That's all I got to say.
Suck it.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
We can say it Let it fly, it's all good, so awesome,
yeah, so looking forward to it.
Now that I've got something todo tomorrow I definitely will
have to put it on the schedulethere to go torture myself with
QRP, because I know bands arenot going to be that great and
I'm going to have to.
Probably this might actually bea good time.
I'm also just at a doubleportion and test the 56 to one

(54:01):
reliance and fed that Matt sentme just because I haven't done
it and take it out of the boxand we'll try it.
See what happens.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
I think you might be surprised.
I was looking at the Noah and asolar ham and tomorrow about 15
, about 15 UTC tomorrow,everything's going to dip down.
It's going to be like I thinkthe HF conditions later in the
day tomorrow are going to bepretty good.
If the predictions show the waythey should, it should be a

(54:30):
good afternoon for HF.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Hopefully.
Let me go knock on my radio.
I'll be right back and we'llsee how that goes yeah exactly
Awesome, all right, cool for hf.
Hopefully, let me go knock on myradio.
I'll be right back and you knowwe'll see how that goes.
Exactly awesome, all right,cool.
Well, uh, yeah.
So we, you know the sky's thelimit tonight.
So I'm gonna say our, our topicis kind of loosely, you know,
framed here.
Um, I, I really wanted to bringyou on wall to talk, uh, more
cb, because I and I'll admit itfirst, I am not a CB guy.

(54:54):
My experience with CB is sosmall that I really don't have a
whole lot of involvement orinvestment in it and I'm almost
at the point of not putting aradio in.
So maybe that's a challenge toyou that maybe convince me
otherwise that I need to put aCB in my truck.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
I'll convince you.
Otherwise I will try at least.
Cb.
The problem with CB is CBersand the word CB, citizens ban
and CBers the CBers on the11-meter ban are sometimes the
problem.
The guys that are 11-meteroperators that are like serious.

(55:32):
There's a whole subculture ofserious operators that use the
11-meter ban, as we call it CB,that are like serious.
There's a whole subculture ofserious operators that use the
11 meter band, as we call it CB,that are out there.
I know, you know, I just gaveMike into MAK a radio a fully
legal president, fcc as theycall them, radio, the president

(55:52):
brand with their CVs that aremade for the US market and an
FCC.
I gave him the George, yeah,the President, george FCC model.
The thing about that is forlegally, if you want to, you can
talk, skip.
Now it used to be.
There was a law that you couldnot talk more than 155 miles on

(56:16):
CB radio in the United States.
They did a rule change.
A lot of people don'tunderstand that, but they did a
rule change.
A little over 10 years ago theFCC modified the rules where you
can talk.
I mean, they know you can'tcontrol skip.
If something's going to skip.
It's going to skip, an HFsignal is going to carry.
So they got rid of that rule,but they didn't get rid of the

(56:39):
power rule.
Now that's the other problemwith CB radio is the FCC just
turns their blind eye to it andit is the wild, wild west on CB
radio for a lot of people.
But there are some people that,like myself, came from that
world.
But there are some people that,like myself, came from that
world and I'm not a saint.
I wasn't always the guy thatonly used 12 watts.

(57:01):
I'll tell the truth on that.
But since I've become a ham andI've lived by the rules, 12
watts, ssb.
I mean.
I've got a couple videos whereI'm sitting in my Jeep with a 12
watts SSB talking to Jamaicayou know what I mean, talking to
California, texas, nebraska.
I mean 11 meters is just alittle bit better than a
10-meter band and you guys thatare hands know how well 10

(57:23):
meters operates.
There's a whole world of10-meter radios that are really
CB radios but the makers buildthem as 10 meter export radios.
They call them exports.
I've done videos on thePresident Lincoln that I have.
I think that's a 30 watt radio,the QT80.

(57:44):
That Radiodity sells.
A lot of people saw that radio.
I opened mine up so you couldget 12 and 15 meters as a 10
meter radio.
But when you open it up youalso get the 11 meters, the CB,
and that's now a real popular11-meter radio or CB radio for
the guys that do that.

(58:05):
But there's a whole subculturein there.
There's a whole bunch of reallyreally good CB YouTubers or
11-meter YouTubers.
A guy I like is called MowerJunkie.
He's in South Carolina.
Mower Junkie yeah, yeah, he's ariding lawnmower mechanic or
whatever, but he's also a CB-erand he's pretty good man.

(58:29):
He builds homemade antennas, hebuilt beams.
He does all this stuff for 11meters and talks around the
world.
He's one of the more popularguys.
There's a guy over in Europe,max Mountain World, built his
own moxon and he's inSwitzerland Originally.
I believe he's a Scot, but helives in Switzerland and he goes
out on a dry lake bed with amoxon and talks around the world

(58:52):
on 11 meters.
There's a woman in Canterbury,england, kate in canterbury.
Uh, she just does.
Her video channel is just herdx clips of talking dx around
the world on it.
Um, these are really good.
I mean I, I don't.
I I've talked to some of theseguys.
It's like get your ham license,get your ham license, you're

(59:12):
such a good operator and they'reso smart.
I mean they, you know, theybuild great and they build
antenna, they do everything wedo and there's just, there's
just like I said, there's justthis culture.
Here's why I kind of put thisto Mike and and to others is
that you know, like Mike, intohim, ma cases leave no band.

(59:35):
You know, you know undone orwhatever.
11 meters is there, it's an HFband.
You know I was talking to DaveMinster, the CEO of the American
Radio Relay League.
Did was back in the 70s when CBwas so popular that we as

(59:57):
amateur radio operators snubbedour nose at them and we should
have brought them into the foldand made the ARRL.
And everybody brought in thatsection of CB and 11 meters and
embraced it and I said you knowit's not too late, he goes.
You know you're right, he goes.
That's kind of why you're here,walt, you know what I mean.

(01:00:18):
Like, yeah, I got you.
And so I think that if I had myway and if I could do something
about it, I want to be anambassador for 11 meters.
I hate calling it CB, althoughit is what it is, the 11-meter

(01:00:41):
band.
I like for people to go out andget a US FCC like a president,
a President George FCC.
I have the one I really love.
I have the President McKinleyFCC, 12 watts on SSB, the SSB
channels.
The calling channel for SSB is38, lower sideband and 11 meters
.
They use lower sideband.
38 is the calling channel Fromabout 34 to channel 40, the top

(01:01:04):
of the channels.
You know the high end of theband, all of that sideband.
You can get on there and justmake some incredible calls.
It's different.
You kind of got to learn thelingo.
There's no more 10-4, goodbuddy and all that.
So that's old, that's done,it's.
That's not the way it's done.
No more these people call justlike everybody else.

(01:01:24):
You know, like I you do make upyour own.
You take a three-digit numberand make up your own your own
call sign and then you can likehave a handle as well.
Like I'm salty walt zero four40and I'm on those talking that
the AM from the other channelsare all kind of more local AM
type thing.
Channel six is what they callSuper Bowl six.

(01:01:46):
That's an AM channel but that'swhere all the guys that are
running illegal, like 500 wattsor a kilowatt or whatever, are
all there on AM, on Super bowl,six channel, six um.
They probably let off the keyand hear themselves echo when
they come all the way backaround the world because some of
these guys are running, likeyou know, 5000 y or 5k.
It's ridiculous.

(01:02:08):
So there is a really there is adark side to the 11 meter cb
world and it's the dark side ofit.
You can get on some of thesechannels and there are some
idiots that key up over peoplethat spew profanity or whatever.
But then again, if you catch itat the right time, you get on
there, like I said, up around 37, 38, 39, 40, those channels Get

(01:02:36):
on lower sideband early in themorning, later in the afternoon
or whatever.
Whenever you know 10, when 10is open, you can go over and
check that out.
It's amazing um, especiallysummer's kind of tough, but like
the spring and then again inthe fall, skip is just great,
especially for you guys up innew england.
When I was in new england, rhodeisland I I'd get up on a
saturday or sunday morning andplay around, do whatever with

(01:02:58):
ham radio.
If I saw 11 was open when I gotthrough, I'd cut on my, I'd
break out my CB radio and I justtalked to the UK back and forth
.
It was kind of funny because itwas.
I would go.
You know, the other part of the11 meters is each country has a
number.
It's called a division.
Like the USA is the twodivision, and I would get on

(01:03:21):
there and I'd go this is SaltyWall, two division 040.
And the guys in the UK would belike oh, it's that ham YouTube
guy, what's going on?
So it's kind of fun, you know.
But I think I would like to seethe 11-meter band get policed a
little bit more.
I mean, people would hate mefor that, a lot of CBers would

(01:03:42):
hate me for that.
But I think it should be theway it is now.
Leave it the way it is.
You don't need a license to geton it.
But I wish the FCC would policeit a little bit more and clean
up some of the bad stuff thatgoes on it.
I think it's a great band.
It was the band that got meinto SSB ham radio and I think

(01:04:03):
it's a great band and there'ssome great operators there.
It's a great place to start Ifyou're starting to get your ham
license.
You can get an 11 tomorrow.
Go get that radio and get on ittomorrow and start talking, you
know, when the band's openaround the united states, around
the world with it with it.
Now, yes, there are a lot ofpeople that buy, like the export
radios that are, you know, 100watts, 80 watts or whatever and

(01:04:27):
which is not.
It's technically illegal.
But I'll be honest with you, Idon't condone it but it's people
doing all day long, every dayand um and nothing said that
people have, like I said, ofsome good operators, I've got um
.
I will not confirm or deny thatI've ever used this, but this
is an 11 meter um 100 wattamplifier that you can pop on um

(01:04:51):
I.
It also works for the 10 meterband as well.
A simple little um little ampthat you know.
People use those um and thatpart of a 11 meter cb is um.
It's there.
If you're going to operate withyour um, your 12 watt pp
sideband, you're going to talkto guys that are using 80 and

(01:05:11):
100 watts, but that's not yourproblem, that's theirs.
You're still not breaking therules Some other rules that are
broken, if you guys are familiarwith what's called free banding
, is.
So each one of those channels,one through 40, has the
frequency that they're set on.
Well, people with radios likethe XR radios can go off

(01:05:34):
frequency five or you know five,kill, you know kilohertz one
way or the other, whatever, andget off frequency, you know if
the bands are crowded and use it.
That's called free banding.
That's illegal.
But if you want to just golisten, if you got a, you know
any of our HF radios you canlisten.
Go listen to 27 555, which isis not a CB channel, but that's

(01:05:58):
the international freebandingcalling frequency.
It's pretty cool, man.
You hear some people from allover the world on that frequency
talking as well.
So that's 11 meters, that's CBto me.
I started in CB in 1975 as ateenager when I was born.
Okay, yeah, and it's been apart of me since then.

(01:06:22):
I've always been into the skippart of CB and the DXing side of
CB.
Yeah, back then it was nottechnically legal.
When they dropped the licenserequirement, the FCC also
dropped policing it.
I think now the only timethey'll really do anything on
the 11 meter band CB is ifyou're just totally disrupting

(01:06:45):
comms with somebody else orwhatever.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Yeah, didn't HR 20 have a video recently about how
a CB got finally fined by theFCC?

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
have a video recently about how a cb or got finally
fined by the fcc.
Yeah, yeah, as he should have,as he should have and like, like
I said, I wish the fcc would domore of that.
I wish the fcc would, uh, findsome of these guys that key up
over top of other people or thatbroadcast.
There's guys that'll broadcastmusic on the band, you know, and
just ruin the whole frequencyfor everybody.
There's guys that spew terribleprofanity.
I wish they'd clean that upbecause if they would, the

(01:07:21):
11-meter band would be epic.
It really is and at times itreally is epic.
Now, if you know what you'redoing and can go to the right
spot, if you can get away fromsome of the other guys.
There are some really goodoperators on 11 meters and I
love doing it.
I really do.
I still do it and probably willfor the rest of my life.
Right now, while we're at solarmaximum, this is the time five,

(01:07:45):
six years from now, 11 metersCB will suck you know what I
mean Just like 10 meters doeswhen we get to the bottom of the
solar cycle.
Just like 10 meters does whenwe get to the bottom of the
solar cycle.
It's basically every five and ahalf years.
Either up or down, the CB is upand then down, up and down, so

(01:08:07):
it's kind of how it is as well,all right, well, I got a bunch
of questions.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
I'll give you guys a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Go, all right, go for it.
So somebody like me, right've,I've played with cbs since I was
a kid, um, I've always had cbsin my, in my trucks, my
off-roading truck, or over theroad, like you know, whenever
I'm traveling, driving on thehighways, uh, you know, whether
it's up and down the east coastor, you know, coast to coast,

(01:08:34):
I'm always running the CB.
But so, like I'll, I'll listento nine, 19, 17, right,
depending on which direction I'mtraveling.
Um, six is always great forunderstanding, uh, you know if
10 is open or not.
You know there's that, um, butso, like the cb that I have is

(01:08:58):
it's a bearcat?
998 um which will do sidebandyeah, I have that radio.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
It's amazing radio I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
It's yeah, I actually have two of them, um, but
that's, that's what I've gotmounted in the truck and and I
never know, like what, what tocall myself when I'm, when I'm
on the TV, or where to go anduse upper or lower sideband.
So I just stick to the channelsand I just stick to AM, because

(01:09:26):
I just don't know any better.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Go anywhere from 35 to 40, lower sideband, anywhere
from 35 to 40, lower side bin.
Just go with that.
Matter of fact, I have a short,if you go through my shorts
with your radio.
I'm sitting in the parking lotat work in the shipyard and I
have a little short, two-foot,the little stick.
You know what I mean with the.

(01:09:51):
What's the name of that Firestick?
I have a little short two-footfire stick on the back of my
Jeep and I'm talking to a guy inJamaica with that radio and a
little two-foot fire stick justsitting in the Jeep.
You'd be surprised.
And what I do it's almost likebreaking a pileup.
That's the other thing.

(01:10:11):
If you operate on that, it willmake you a better pileup
breaker because you kind ofstart getting the ear and you
know when to jump in.
Like I would go to 38 andlisten If you hear some guy say
like he's, like, this is, youknow, 735, the Blue Water man in
Kingston, jamaica.
Right, and then you know whatyou do.

(01:10:31):
You just grab the mic and go 7,blue Water man.
Blue Water man, this is Oscarthe Grouch in New Hampshire.
Do you copy?
And then everybody else can becoming on.
Just like a pilot, just like it, just keep doing that and
sooner or later he's going to go.
Oscar the Grouch, oscar theGrouch, hey, we got you in
Jamaica.
It's almost like operating, youknow, sideband hf and the hand

(01:10:55):
band is just a little looser, alittle bit more fun and um, and
there is no law and order as faras, like, you wait until
someone says qrz man, you justjump in there and go.
It's how it is.
But it can be a lot of fun, itreally can be, and uh, so, yeah.
So to answer your question,definitely you, you've got the

(01:11:16):
radio.
You have probably one of thebest.
Get on anywhere from start at38, dead center that's the
call-in frequency, lowersideband, and just let it play.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
What we got to do is I got to find out when you're on
, when the bands are open, I'lltext you or something and say Go
out and get on.
We'll go like to 35 if no one'son it and we'll get on Laura's
sideband and I'll call for OscarGrouch and we'll See.
I just gave you your name, soyou're Oscar the Grouch.
You got your handle now, buddy.
Got your handle now, man, hey.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Oscar the Grouch, it's Salty.

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
Walt, you know 040 in southeastern Virginia.
Do you copy there in the landof the free or whatever?

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
I'm looking at the fact that once you finally get
him roped in and then we go do aphoto with him and I hear him
calling CQ, cq, oscar the Grouch, and it was like he's lost all
of his radio skills for a coupleseconds there.
Cool, all right.
Well, you've taught.
You got anything you want tothrow in.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
I got a bunch more I can go with, but uh no, I mean
my uh, my experience with cb islike when I got my car, my
license, me and my friends allput c in and we didn't know
anything about it.
I just we'd go into channels,we lived by a highway so you'd
always hear the truckers andstuff, and back then they would
yell at us and get off our bandsand get off our channel and of

(01:12:46):
course we were like, yeah, youdon't own it, that kind of stuff
.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
But it would be cool.
I mean, I hear a lot of peoplesaying that you know they get
their cb radio.
They just don't hear anythinglike uh.
You know, timmy's, I can tellyou why they got amcb radios,
ams, the everyone gets an amcb.
Right, you gotta have sideband.
You've got, you've got.
If you're gonna work any typeof uh skip, you gotta have
sideband.
Um, one rule that just cameinto effect a couple years ago
is FM.
Fm was just legalized.

(01:13:21):
We did a video on it, me and741 and 040, we across
connecticut and met up with eachother there and uh and did an
fm to fm cb contact.
A couple of them had lunch.
That was pretty cool.

(01:13:42):
That was a good video yeah thatmay, um that may help things as
well.
For 11 meters fm I mean as muchfor local now, now what is um?

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
you said 12 watts is the max you can have legally oh,
sideband, four watts on am.

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
You can only have four am.
That's.
That's the rule.
No one follows the rule.
It's kind of like driving thespeed limit's 55, no one does 55
.
You know what I mean, but but Ido.
I mean I kind of you know so soit's 12.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
So it's 12 watt, 12 watts.
So it's basically like doingqrp, pretty much, pretty much
the same thing.
Now, what's the max?
People will put like wattageout there illegally, like would
there be like a thousand watt?

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
oh, yeah, there's a lot of people.
There's people pumping akilowatt, yeah for sure.
Oh, wow, they are definitely10,000.
10,000.
If you get on, if you get onSuperbowl six and the with the
AM guys, those guys have monster.
You can hear I mean it's justridiculous on channel six AM.

(01:14:53):
Listen to those guys for theamps.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
I mean mean it's just it'll blow your mind now, if
you're, if you're, if they'reabout, if they're a kilowatt
right, and I'm at 12 and I canhear them, are they going to be
able to hear me?

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
some of them can.
I mean you'd be surprised.
I mean I make a lot of contactson 12 with 12 watts all over
and I think they you know it'sno different than when you're
qrp and on sideband, on hambands and you're, you know those
guys can hear you.
I mean, yeah, you're not five,nine, you're not, or they don't
say five, now you're not s9 tothem.

(01:15:28):
You know you're probably s1 ors2.
But some of those guys thatmakes it even more of a
challenge.
They're like, hey, where's heat?
You know, I hear him, you know,is he?
You know, you know, whatever.
That makes it even more of achallenge.
They're like, hey, where's heat, I hear him, is he whatever?
So yeah, it's kind of the samething.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
What about the handheld CBs that you see?

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
The problem with those is they're AM, they're all
AM, that's just AM.
Yeah, I don't think.
I don't know for a fact rightnow.
There's not a sideband handheldin production.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
So you want a sideband at least one that does
sideband, to get into CD.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
The maker of those, the ones I really like and I
highly recommend.
I mean, cobra makes a sideband,the radio Paul has the Bearcat
SSB 980, that's a great radio.
President USA makes them andthey even have on theirs.

(01:16:24):
They'll call it, like thePresident George, fcc.
Anything you see of theirs thathas FCC at the end of it.
That is a 100% legal CB radio.
I do say this this is my codeand how I live as an 11 meter
guy because I also am a licensedham radio operator.
I stay within the rules.

(01:16:47):
I don't use more than 12 watts.
I use a compliant, fcc approvedradio on 11 meters.
I don't bend the rules.
I follow them a hundred percent.
You know people can laugh at meor call me a nerd or a square
for doing it or whatever, but Idon't want to jeopardize my ham
license.

(01:17:08):
And the other thing too is I'vegot almost 31,000 subscribers.
You know you can't put yourselfout there to that many people.
And do you know, play stupidgames?
You know get stupid results.
I don't want that out there.
I want people to know that.
Um, you know, you know I'm, I'mjust.
You know as much as I'm tryingto promote the 11 meter band.
If someone's out there andthey're not, you know they're

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using export radio and they'rerunning 30 watts or 50 watts,
whatever good for you, I don'tcare.
You know they're using exportradio and they're running 30
watts or 50 watts, whatever goodfor you, I don't care, and I'm
kind of interested in whatyou're doing.
Yeah, that's cool.
Maybe I'll do that on 10 meters, you know, with the same radio.
Um, I'm not gonna like, lose my, you know, lose my mind over
anything.
I just know me as an operator,I can't do that now, what do you
um?

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
do you have like?
So you have a cb in your je.
Do you also have one in theshack?

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
I have.
I have a few um.
What I'll sometimes do I don'thave one hooked up right now
I'll take, like that presidentMcKinley FCC I have and just
I'll just stick it up here, hookit to my power supply and um,
and then put a antenna tunerwith it and then just tune my
ham radio, ham vertical, for it.
So after all that loss andeverything, I'm probably putting

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out six or seven watts, notreally 12, but but I'll do that
occasionally.
Um, I've even gone out on thebeach.
I've done some videos.
I go out on the beach on radioon the day when I know 11 meters
wide open and just like I do uh, uh with my ham gear.
I've gone out on the beach witha CV and just had some fun
playing around with that.
It's amazing.
What's really cool with that isthat's kind of cheating.

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I'm getting the 10 dB gain offof the salt water being right
there on top of the water.
So that 12 watts I'm 100% legal, but it's like using 120 watts.
I've talked to people that arelike you're what I said yeah,
I'm in Rhode Island using 12watts.
They're like there's no way.
I'm in California using 1,000watts and you've got a better
signal coming to me than I do toyou.

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You know what I mean, so that'spart of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Yeah, well, that's good.
It would be definitely a goodway to get people at least
started who want to starttalking.
You know more than you know.
Like a technician gets a cb andplays with that, get some uh,
as they're studying for theirgeneral or or both, you know it
gives them the opportunity toget out there and maybe get some
farther contact.
So I didn't I actually I didn'tknow that that you could.

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I didn't know the 11 meters, Ijust thought it was only am that
you could use and it was justthose.
You know certain channels.
Yeah, that's kind of am's dead.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
That's why everybody says I got a cb and I don't hear
anything.
It's because, no, the onlypeople on am is as old truckers
that still have them in theirtruck and they put our own
channel 19, even the truckdrivers, now they're they're all
using cell phones, you knowwhat I mean.
And then it just like it's notlike the old days.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Well, I do see, you know you talked about your, your
hamstick or whatever.
I do see truckers driving,cause I pay attention to like
what they have, and I've seensome of those like hamsticks,
that.
And I've also seen, um, youknow, ham radio antennas, you
know, sitting on, like theirwindows, like one by one, you
know, clipped on.
So I think they're, you know, Ithink they're, I think a lot of

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the truckers too are gettinginto ham radio Back in the day.

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
They really were.
I mean, there's a lot of oldold stock, a lot of new old
stock, if you can find it Like Ibought a co-phasing kit, a
wiring kit.
If you remember the truckerswould have an antenna on both
leaders.
They would co-phase twoantennas.
Well, that whole harness worksgreat and you can have, like
I've got a co-phase harness, Iuse it and then I build a

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quarter wave for it and pull ita half a wavelength apart and it
just creates a beam, you know,like coming through a beam with
the co-phasing thing there.
Hey, mike, uh into mak's askinga great question what's a good
dx antenna for 11 meters?
That's a great question.
Um, I've gotten, I've gottenout with my, my pole, my dx
commander pole.
You use any pole.

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Maybe you could use a littlesmall 16 foot pole, but um a 64
to one and a piece of wire cutfor a half a wavelength for 11
meters.
Um, it's a vertical half wavefor uh, for the uh 11 meter band
.
Oh, my gosh, I I've got a videoon my channel where I was on
the beach in rhode island and uh, once again talking through the

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Caribbean with that antennawith 12 watts there, but
vertical, if you're going tomake one and have fun with it.
That's.
That's a great DX antenna.
If you want one to 100%, keepin your in your vehicle.
It's also a great antenna isthe fire stick that we were just
talked about.
There's a.
It's called the Fire Stick 2.

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It's a five-foot-long firestick and it's like a hamstick,
but it is a five-eighths waveelectrically.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
That's the one that's usually black with a red tip at
the top.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
A red tip on the top.
That antenna is a beast to keeppermanently on a vehicle is a
beast for the keep permanentlyon a vehicle.
I've got a five foot one andthat I put when I'm like on a
road trip and then when I'mriding around town I have a two
foot one.
I like the fire stick toantennas and I think I've I've
even used it on 10 meters onsome of my I mean some videos of

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me using that as well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
In 10 meters, a great little antennas, hmm so I got a
couple questions you obviouslytalked about, like your, when
you do a talk and skip with callsigns and stuff, like how, like
there's obviously I haven'tspent a lot of time looking up
documentation around it, butlike, did you just like, do the
typical DX code of conduct,Listen, listen, listen when you

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were doing it to get your ownyou know call sign, you know, or
what you're using for yourhandle.

Speaker 4 (01:22:56):
You kind of listen around.
I've never heard anyone usezero.
I I've never heard anyone use athree-digit one that started
with a zero for one.
That's why I liked it.
So I used zero, four, zero.
A lot of people come back tohey, four, zero or forty.
In virginia I call it 040because it's so close to my ham
call.
I'm a four call and I'm an OGO,so I just made my 11-meter call

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040.
There are clubs that will.
If you join a club they'llassign you a number, Like I
think it's called.
The Needlebenders is a club.
They're like a DX 11-meter club.
So your call.
If you live in the UnitedStates, what I talked about
before, they call it the twodivision.
They'll assign you a call.
It'll be 2NB.
Let's just say I was a memberof Needlebenders and 040 was

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available.
That would be 2NB040.
It'll be a club call sign thatthey give you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Okay, it's kind of cool.
It's kind of just aloose-fitted kind of approach.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
Very loose.
You can make up your call signright now.
Sometimes when I'm talking overto Europe, they do that.
They'll have whatever countrythey're in and they'll I forget,
forget what.
I think I was talking the czechrepublic, or whatever.
Like 21.
I can't remember what theircountry code number is.
I have a list somewhere, but umand they're they.

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They'll throw some initials inthere of their club, like c,
like charlie said, or whatever.
For cz, though.
So a guy will be like I'm 21,charlie Zed 357.
You know what I mean, so I'llput in there.
I'm two, sierra Whiskey 040from Salty Wall.
You know what I mean it's like.
So, just whatever.

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It's all made up, but it's fun.
If you're going to use a callsign, use it and stick to it,
because you kind of, as you useit, more and more and more
people start knowing who you are.
You know what I mean and youstart talking to people.
I mean just like in ham radio,how many of us all know anyone,
and everyone that's ever workedany DX across the pond knows who

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Sugar 5'1, david X-Ray, is.
There's guys like that in CB aswell, like you know who Needle
Bender 01 is, the guy's on.
You know everyone's heard himacross the country or whatever.
You know it's the same thing no,it's a different band, it's
just like ham radio, just adifferent band with a kind of a
little bit different culture oftalk.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
You know is um, is the culture the kind of the same
in terms of the qsl world, likewe have in ham radio, or they
just, it's just, you're kind ofjust like it's in the moment and
then that's it, or like, dothey have like a trading kind of
thing?

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
No, they don't really trade.
I know they just, you know,just more or less you know, and
I don't even know if peopleactually log.
I'm sure some people do and Iremember in my mind, hey man,
I'll talk to Jamaica or I'lltalk to you know, I talked to
Costa Rica, orica or whatever,just whatever.
It's kind of real informal, notas uh, not as organized as far

(01:25:58):
as logging and all that, as wedo in ham radio, a little bit
different there.
But um, like I said, it's justa fun, it's a place to just go
have some fun cool, you guys gotanything you want to run no,
I'm just going to start leavingmy radio on channel 38, lower
side man.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Yeah, do it, I'm almost there, so, all right.
So here's a couple of thingsthat just so.
You talked about a little bitof the dark side of, like you
know, cb world.
That's kind of not where I camefrom, but like in my youth when
I was playing with it, like alot of that was very much.
You know, common AM cultureespecially during 1911, all of

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the CB channels up and down werealways busy, I mean literally
from the moment we left ourdriveway, I think.
When we got our first CB in thevan, you know it was AM only it
was like chatter all the waydown and a lot of times my mom
would be flipping the radio offbecause they'd be like talking
about, like how that you know,all of their escapades at the
truck stops and stuff like thatand it was like, yeah, so I
learned a lot very quickly.

(01:26:58):
Um, you know, as a 12 year oldboy you know this is really cool
and you know.
So that was my experience.
But I never, like I never sawthe or never really got anybody.
You know, in my life that wasinto the sideband stuff.
I heard that there weresideband but never really, just
like you know, looked at it.
And then when I started to lookinto it, it was like that, that

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alternative culture where Icaught wind of, like those like
I've seen some videos where Idon't know what it's called, but
like they do tune, like they dotune up wars or whatever you
see, those like where they matcheach other against amplifiers
and like it's so bizarre that Ijust I watched it and I'm like
this is a competition that theyjust fight each other with.
I don't know whether it'stune-up, I don't know if the

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whole I have to go back and lookat the videos again, but I
don't know if you've heard ofsomething like that.
That kind of just turned me offa little bit, but I don't know
if that is a good example of agood side of CW CB.

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
Yeah, sadly, summertime's tough, just like
10-meter band.
You guys know how the 10-meterband has not been open.
It's the same with CB.
If the 10-meter band's not open, cb's not open.
It's kind of rough.
You do get some differentpropagation things on 11 meters,
just like occasionally you'llget some Tropo or Sporadiki or

(01:28:12):
whatever up on 10.
You get the same thing in 11.
That's kind of cool.
I would say that if I were youguys and you're seriously
thinking about it go check outMoe or Junkie and just watch
some of his videos.
Watch like he'll do one.
A lot of the CB guys are.
Just go into YouTube and searchfor CB skip clips and watch

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these guys operate.
It's really cool to watch.
It really is, especially umkate and canterbury.
Her skip clips are pretty,pretty cool.
But um, yeah, mower junkie isgreat.
He's just a good old boy.
He's like a new yorker thatlives in uh, south carolina and
repairs long force and clocks onthe cv great guy, though.
What's really funny, though,when you, when we see um, all

(01:29:00):
these companies like radiati andeverything, sending people like
me and other ham stuff to youknow, to test and to trial and
do a video on, you'll laugh.
They send it to him as well.
They're.
They're, you know the stuffthat that you like.
He's got the qt80, he got theqt60, you know I mean he's got a

(01:29:20):
, a g90 that's opened up that hecan use on.
You know the 11 meter band.
It's like they're gonna guesspretty cool, but it's fun to
watch and, uh, you'll, you'lllearn a lot about operating if
you just watch him, because youcan watch him.
He, he's so popular that hecreates a pile up and he also
you can see him breaking pileupsand whatever talking.

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So a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
That's the one guy I would really recommend um
watching if you want to learnhow to operate interesting
because one of the things I wasthinking about, like you had
mentioned how you you're in thelegal world a little bit in
terms of like amplifiers and theradio.
You know you're not modding, asyou know what I kind of knew CB
culture to be for a long time.
You know, do you find, likewhen you're doing that whole

(01:30:05):
skip stuff, like you know,obviously in ham radio, when we
play in the space, you know wehave a hundred watt radio and
yeah, we have the option to golegal limit.
We don't always bring it to itwith us in the field but I know,
like a lot of these guys, likewhen they're trying to work
those contacts, do you find thisin the CB world Like they just
obviously throw power at it orthey you know they play in that
safe space.

Speaker 4 (01:30:27):
I am a rarity.
I mean there's not, I'm thatguy that does it.
I'm like, I'm like the QRPersare in the hand world.
I'm that.
I'm that guy in the 11 meterworld, Like I said, only because
I'm trying to stay as legal aspossible.
Yeah, I'm a rarity, but most ofthem I would say 90% of the

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guys out there are operatingwith at least an export radio,
like a striker.
I've done a video on thestriker on the 10 meter band
never used on 11.
The striker or a qt80 opened upso the 80 watts or whatever,
and they're all.
I would say 90 of them are allusing export radios and running
power.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
At least you know 70, 80 watts I'm still tossing it
around like I'm not ready tocommit, putting something in the
truck Like I here's.
Here's my dilemma I strugglewith because, like I see people
who have CBs and no slam againstanybody who's got a CB in their
car.
That's awesome.
But like my radios, I like tohave purpose and function with

(01:31:28):
them and if I'm using them I'llhave them there and they're
available.
But I would my cb radio wouldbe over in the corner, it
wouldn't be like in front viewand I wouldn't make it, you know
, prominent.
It would definitely be one ofthose devices that are half of
the side.
So my frustration would be Ididn't take all this time to
install it and if I only have asmall short window that you get
to play and skip, yeah, I meanit's kind of tough for me as

(01:31:51):
well, although shack wise Imight you.
I mean it's kind of promisingto kind of think of the shack.

Speaker 4 (01:31:56):
I'll give you the purpose and really what I think
this man I'll get.
I get some darts thrown at mefor saying this, but I think the
CB radio is the number one mostimportant SHTF radio there is
out there.
I because because think of thetens of thousands of truck

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drivers that have CB radios intheir trucks.
If all comms go down, we got awhole network across the entire
country.
Everyone's going to go If thecells are down.
As a matter of fact, this wasproven recently.
The hurricanes in Western NorthCarolina, with the flooding or
whatever it was CB radio theredid the trick for a lot of
people.
You know and got them.

(01:32:38):
You know there was a lot ofcomms that were accomplished
there.
Well, yeah, it may sit in yourtruck for and never ever get
used, but who knows if the uh,the 2027 blizzard of New
Hampshire knocks down cells andeverything else and you need to
communicate and the only way youcan get through, you know, down

(01:32:58):
the road to you know whatever,is on the emergency channel 9 of
cv.
You know the, you know to getwhat you need or whatever, and
that could be the case.
That's just one thought for apurpose to have it in there I, I
know I can do that with my flex.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
I mean, I've just got to get a couple of uh, you know
, uh fixes for that, but that's,you know, very optional.
There's an option to go thatroute so that that may hold
water for me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
I don't have to try it, I mean you know, you can put
11 meters on your flex yeah,you just use a um, what the heck
are they called, uh,transverter?

Speaker 4 (01:33:34):
I got um, what the heck are they called?
Uh, transverter.
I got um I don't use it but myft710.
I have the mars mod so I canuse it on 11.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
Yeah, any any radio with a mars mod you can use.
Actually, yeah, I probablywouldn't need.
Yeah, speaking of it now, Iprobably wouldn't need it
because this is like, I justhave to go in and make sure it
was open to that and I'm sure,yeah, software-wise you can make
the change.
But yeah, that'd be interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Hmm, Interesting point with the shit hit the fan
thing right Now.
I'm not a big proponent of thisgroup, but there is a group
that has the Channel 3 protocoland I really like the concept
behind it, right, and that's soas a ham radio operator you

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would also monitor channel 3 onCB and channel 3 on GMRS,
channel 3 on FRS, and that wayyou could do relays locally and
then through the HF you can makelonger contacts, so something
like that.

(01:34:38):
It's good to have those toolsin your kit.

Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
I'm on a mission and I really am kind of like Mike is
with the bands and stuff he'sdoing.
I would like to get a group ofguys like us Mike, others, I'd
like to get more ham radiooperators to do like I'm doing
100 legal 12 watts and let'sjust all like maybe start a net

(01:35:04):
or something where we get on itwhenever we can and we all just
like rag around and have fun onthe 11 meter band because it's
like how quickly we get jammed.
I say this all the time 11meters is just a band that
doesn't Require a license.
That happens to sit in betweentwo hand bands.
It's in between 10 and 12.
There it is.
Let's like use it.

(01:35:25):
You know it's how I feel Makeup our own rules.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
I love 10 meters.
It's my favorite band when it'sopen.
I mean, if 10 meters is open,I'm always doing my pod on 10
meters.
It's my favorite band when it'sopen.
I mean if, if 10 meters is open, I'm always doing my pod on 10
meters, so 11 meters I, I, I'vebeen here.

Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
No, I was on the outer banks of north carolina, I
was.
I was down by the beach or thesurfing beach down there.
I pulled up, uh, in my oldtruck just a while back.
I had a nissanx4, and I had aCV in it, and so that's been
years ago and I remember I cutit on and I could hear a guy

(01:36:03):
talking with an Australianaccent.
So I got on and I called outand he was like hey, mike, is
that an American?
I went yeah, I'm on the EastCoast in North Carolina.
Whatever he was like holy, hesaid hi guys, like I'm in sydney

(01:36:23):
, australia.
Like I work and we're talking on11 meters now you wouldn't even
blink or laugh or think it's abig deal anymore on the 10 meter
band.
It's like it's a hand band thatcould happen.
But, um, you know, was thatmaybe 20, 22 years ago when I
did it on 11 meters, you know,with a 12 watt radio in my, in
my little little Nissan pickuptruck at the beach back then?

(01:36:44):
I mean it's like it's prettycool.
So those magic moments happenon 11 meters as well, you know
now, why do you think, why won'tthe, why won't the FCC?

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
FCC, do you think?
Let it go up to 100 watts, or?

Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
that's a good question.
I wish they would.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
I actually wish they would.
I mean, has has anyone ever Imean, is there a reason behind
it or they just don't care tolook at it, because I mean, you
can do 100 watts on 12 and youcan do 100 watts on 10, like,
yeah, I wish they would.
I.

Speaker 4 (01:37:14):
I don't know.
I guess the answer is theydon't care, they're just like.
I think what happened was, youknow, back in the end of the 70s
, early 80s, when they justdropped the license, I think
that the genie was out of thebottle with and they couldn't
control it and it just got it,just turned into such a mess.
They just threw their hands upand said, yeah, you don't need a

(01:37:36):
license to operate there, yougo have it Whatever.
You know what I mean and theyjust gave up.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
That's kind of what I think happened.
I mean, look, they don't evenmonitor a lot of the hand bands,
let alone.

Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
CB.
Look you can go.
I guarantee you, all four of uscould cut our radio on seven,
200 on 40 meters right now, andyou're going to hear things 10
times worse than you're going tohear on, right, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
We we've we've put Paul on, you know, seven dot 200
and Lily shut them up for agood 20, 25 minutes.
But I don't know how that oneworked out, but it worked out
pretty well, so yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:38:22):
CB's a lot like that.
I'm not gonna lie.
Even the sideband side there'sa lot of that goes on.
I mean it is what it is, butand just stupid, stupid
arguments over politics.
You know gross stuff, you don'twant your kids here and
whatever it is there.
I mean it is there, but at thesame time there's also some
great operators that you canmake good contacts with as well.
You gotta you to weed throughthe garbage to get to the good
stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
Well, it's kind of funny because it's like you say
that, but I remember very fondlywhen I just got my ticket in 91
or 92 or whatever it was, I wasvery much a big CB.
I played CB in my truck and Ihad it in the car and we used it
with our friends, like we alldiscussed earlier CB, my truck,
and you know I had it in the carand we used it with our friends
, like we all discussed earlier.
And and so when I got into aham community, like you would

(01:39:00):
have thought I had like polio orsome, like rare skin disease or
like you can't talk on CB,that's, that's just.
You know that's not how hambands work and I was very much
lectured early on that, like youknow, you have to like ham hams
are more refined, they're Likeit's kind of what the
communication came across as.
So you know I kind of took thatas like, oh, I'm stepping up

(01:39:20):
into the upper echelon ofcommunications and you know this
is all great and everythingwhich you know, that's just the
way it's been.

Speaker 4 (01:39:27):
I mean, it's always been that division.
That's kind of been my missionas well.
I'm not going to lie.
I did not put it out there.
I didn't do any CB videos oreven talk about CB radio on my
channel until I had like 15,000subscribers.
And at that point I was like,if I lose 100 of you guys F off
I don't care, he's like whatever.

(01:39:49):
But now I was like my mission asa ham.
One of my missions is to getmore CBers over to the ham side
and also on the flip side, thatis, get ham radio operators to
maybe bring some law and orderto the 11-meter band and we all
operate the right way.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
Dude, we just talked about 7.280 meters.
All of those bands have thesame CB guys.
The only difference issometimes they have to remember,
they have to identify.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
That's like really the only requirement that they
have to bring to the table, andeven then they don't do that
when you're on cb, I mean, onceyou identify like if I found you
and you and I are talking, wedon't even have to identify ever
again we get.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
We don't even have to identify the first time, first
time you just go, you know, youknow, hey, what's going on?
Hey, well, whatever, and we cantalk for three hours, it
doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
I mean it would be.
I think it would also be coolfor, like, seriously, like when
I, when I was my technician,before I got my general, you
know, I had no experience, youknow, talking except on the
repeater, you know, and itsounds like it might be kind of
cool and I think it would havegotten me even more interested
until Eric, you know, on fieldday.

(01:41:04):
Let me go on and make an HFcontact.

Speaker 4 (01:41:08):
It gave me a lot of confidence when I first got my
general and when I remember myfirst contact on 20 meters the
afternoon after the light, afterI got my general, I remember I
got the test.
I passed it.
It was in the morning.
That afternoon I came home andI got on 20 meters and used the

(01:41:29):
you know the slash AG at the endof my call sign.
But I had had so muchexperience of getting into you
know jawing wars on the 11 meterband and working my way through
11 meters and talking towhatever.
I had absolutely no mic fright.
I remember my first contactgeez been years ago, but I think

(01:41:50):
the guy was in Nebraska, Ithink it was Nebraska Cuso party
or something, and I got on 20meters and I heard him guys like
CQ, this is whatever you know,nebraska Cuso party, and I went
at.
Then I was Kilo Oscar, cq thisis whatever you know Nebraska
QSO party, and I went at.
Then I was Kilo Oscar for Oscar, golf Oscar.
I said this is Kilo Oscar forOscar, golf Oscar, stroke AG.

(01:42:10):
And a guy come back to me hegoes Kilo Oscar for Oscar, golf
Oscar.
Wow, that's a whole lot ofOscars, right.
Then I decided I was going toget a novelty, get a vanity call
, you know.
I said, hey, thank you, this ismy first HF contact, I
appreciate it so much, and weragged it a little bit or
whatever.
And then at that point, man, Ijust started making contacts.

(01:42:31):
Man, man, man, but compared toa new general, that's never done
that.
I think I got right into it andjust started going to town
because I had already beenthrough that with 11 meters
where I would get on there.
Hey, you know, this is back.
Then I would, whatever mynumber or whatever So-and-so and
so-and-so.
Hey, what are you?
Yeah, I'm in Virginia,southeastern Virginia, blah,

(01:42:53):
blah, blah, blah.
I would do all that in the CBworld.
So I was already used to it.
And that's why I said I think11 meters would be a good place
for people studying for the test.
Go out and buy a $200, you knowradio hook it up and start
trying to make contacts on ituntil you get your ham license.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
It's part of the technician license.
Go on the 11 meter band, try tomake a skip.
Contact first, then you getyour technician.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
Well, which?
What is your favorite?
Which is your favorite radio?
You said the President.

Speaker 4 (01:43:23):
I like the McKinley, the President McKinley, fcc.
It's out of it's.
Actually you can still buy somenew ones out there.
It's out of production now.
It was replaced by thePresident George FCC.
That's the radio I gave Mikeinto him.
Okay, I gave Mike that radio.
I gave it into him.
I gave Mike that radio.
I gave it to him.
That one was given to me byPresident and I used it quite a

(01:43:47):
bit and then gave it to Mike.
That radio is almost identicalto the radio Paul has, the
Bearcat SSB 980.
That's President George.
If you want a good radio, take apeek at I think they're $198
right now.
The President George FCC.

(01:44:08):
Great little radio.
Cool, we lost Eric here.
But, like I said, it's likeanything else.
You might go out and buy thatradio, hook it up, get on and
get completely frustrated andaggravated with it right away.

(01:44:29):
You never know.
I mean it's just all in whenyou're on and how it.
You know it's like anythingelse with trying to talk, skip
or making great contacts.
It's the luck of, not so muchthe luck of the draw, but it's
just when conditions are thereand when things are happening
Right.
So Mike says he's bringing thepresident of Georgia out on a

(01:44:55):
park soon.
That'll be cool.

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
I think he's bringing the real president of Georgia
out, but you know we'll have toconfirm after.
So yeah, so I obviously heardto kind of get into CB, I mean
obviously ham radio.
There's always that the issuewith you, especially when you
get an HF where the cost goes updrastically in terms of the
gear and stuff.
The same thing kind of with CB,or no, no, I mean you could

(01:45:20):
thing kind of with CB or no.

Speaker 4 (01:45:21):
Can you get into it cheaper than that?
I mean me.
I've been sent radios byPresident Stryker.
Stryker sent me a really niceradio, 955.
That radio was like a $400 or$500 radio, but that's top of
the line.
I mean that is the Mac Daddybest radio made and it's under
$500.

(01:45:42):
You can get all day long.
I think right now on Amazon youcan get either the President
George or the President McKinleyfor under $200.
They're great radios.
That's all you need.

Speaker 1 (01:45:56):
Are they the same kind of caliber in terms of ham
radio radios?
They got filtering andeverything in them.

Speaker 4 (01:46:02):
Yeah, they do they.
They do they're pretty goodthey also, you know as much.
I'll be honest with you.
They're probably better radios,and I hate to say this, but in
some of the lower end stuff,like the zygo stuff, I would say
these radios are okay, we're inthe circle of trust here.

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
The, you know, no manufacturer has penetration
rights, so you're good.

Speaker 4 (01:46:21):
Yeah, yeah they're pretty good.
I mean, there's depends, I meanyou know I, I like them.
And then these, some of thefeatures on these radios that
are not on the ham radios thatyou they'll have, like echo.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
Like I'm like, so it sounds like all of those weird
things like yeah, how big of aculture is that, like I know a
few motorola guys like I've seen, even on the repeaters and
stuff like that around herestill they're roger beeps and
for me, you know, depending onhow bad it is, can rub me the
wrong way.
It's just like, okay, I don'twant to talk with them so long
because it's like I always haveto deal with the repeater beep,

(01:46:56):
you know, and then the you knowthe repeater squelch, you know
tail off, then theirs on top ofit and it's like ugh, getting
annoying.
Is it really super bad?
Because I know, when I got intoit, when we were doing AM, that
was the latest thing.
Everybody could put a box onthere and you get this weird
tone or you get this weird audiofile you play.
Is that still kind of prominentnow or no?

Speaker 4 (01:47:16):
No, it's not prominent.
As a matter of fact, it's kindof frowned on.
If you hear somebody using aRoger beep, you're going to hear
everyone jump on the guy rightaway.
Hey tool, cut that Roger beepoff.
Tool, you know whatever.
It's kind of not cool anymore.
People don't do it.
You'll hear it occasionally.
You will hear a little bit ofecho in there on some of them,

(01:47:36):
which I think kind of soundscool.
And sometimes you hear somebodyand he's, like you know,
thousands of miles away and he'sgot the echo on it.
It is what it is.
I don't.
I just run mine straightwithout you know, without
anything.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
Okay, oh man, still not there.
Yet Still not there.
I'll be honest, you know I'mnot quite ready to commit.

Speaker 4 (01:48:00):
I might have to, I might have to, might have to,
before you spend a dime beforeyou commit take a month, take
two months, take a while.
We're all youtubers.
We enjoy youtube.
Go watch the cb youtubers.
Go watch some of them.

Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
You'll enjoy it sadly , I just got my algorithm in the
way I like now and I'm going toadd this stuff and I can only
imagine what more crap they'regoing to throw into my feed
after I start watching mowerjunkie.

Speaker 4 (01:48:24):
I have a second, I have my Coastal Waves.
I got a second one, my secondone.
It's like what I watch on mysecond one is all surfing videos
and stuff like that and fishingvideos, stuff that I don't put
in the ham world.
So go over there and watch theuh cb stuff on the on your other
.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
I already subscribed to mower junkie on my other one.
So yeah, I'm gonna keep thechurch and state separate there
you go.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
Well, I gotta, I got a deal for you, eric.
So at my house, you know, uh,you know where my desk was, and
there was the baker's rack nextto the desk.
Yep, on that baker's rack thereis an extra bearcat 980 ssb
just sitting there okay thereyou go, feel.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
Feel free to play with that radio okay, we'll have
to work on the details afterhow I get in in there over there
and coordinate all of that, butwe could definitely.
I might just take your offer upon that one, see if we can play
with it you know you don't wantto get in.
I do okay, I don't.
I don't want to also be hangingout with a lot of the merrimack
cops that I know firstly wellfirsthand either but we'll have

(01:49:32):
to work that one, okay, uh, yeah, okay, you know you're my tweet
in the deal.
We'll talk, we'll see whathappens whether I end up on a
police blotter or not.
Okay, all right.
Well, you know, cb stuff isgood for me.
I don't know if you guys needmore things.
I want to talk about a sixmeter stuff at this point, but
uh, you guys want to shift gearsa little?

Speaker 4 (01:49:55):
bit.
Yeah, right before, rightbefore we came on, I I made an
awesome six-meter contact up toPrince Edward Island, 916 miles,
and you know what I do, justlike what I did tonight.
I've been doing it every dayfor about the last two or three
weeks.
Get on and look at the bands,flip over to six meters, go to

(01:50:16):
50.125 and just say Kilo 4,oscar, golf, oscar, standing by
and listening for any calls, sitthere for about five minutes,
nothing, okay, I'm done.
Cut the radio off.
Tonight I did it and right awaysomeone came back to me.
I mean, that's what you got todo on six meters.
Then I kind of look at the.
I look and see if it's open.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
Okay, so I'm a new six-meter green behind the green
horn, will call myself, andLike I look at the spot, like
the SFI index and stuff likethat, and you know sort of like
you know, spot check it fromTime to time.
But every time I spot check itit keeps telling me six meters
is closed, and so like, I taketheir word for it, so I don't
Get on the band and I don't openit up.

(01:50:59):
So like, do you just likeignore it and just decide, hey,
the gut feeling tells me to gothis way, or yeah, but you know
it could say the band is close.

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
I don't know how familiar you are with like fm
radio.
Have you ever been driving downthe road and you cut the radio
on?

Speaker 1 (01:51:15):
and you do on the fm radio listening to music walt, I
haven't turned on fa on an amfm radio in about 15 years.
I don't think my truckremembers how to remember back
in the day.

Speaker 4 (01:51:25):
You, let's just say, you're in new hampshire, you cut
, you cut the fm radio on andall of a sudden you're hearing
something in western new york onyour fm radio.
That's, that's.
That's either trapo or sporadice or whatever that happens.
That's why they call it.
The magic band is you.
The bank may not be open at all, but there may be some ducting

(01:51:47):
happening between where you'reat and like.
I think that's what happened tome tonight, where I'm at, and
all the way up on Prince EdwardIsland.
It must have just been.
Their signals were just ductingto each other and when I got on
there, the guy, he had hisradio and he heard it and we
just, you know, we were back andforth, but so, so here's.

Speaker 1 (01:52:06):
This is where the like I get I struggle with
because, like I see guys samething like you're you the same
scenario where, like I see guyson our discord for our club be
like dude, there was a six meteropening all the way down to
Florida or something like that,something crazy, like they post,
and they were talking about howthat was like going on, and I'm
like, by the time I got that itwas like okay, dead, band like,
and so what's like?

(01:52:27):
Like, what's the magic sauce?
Like am I missing that littlelike?
Okay, do I have like thatlittle spidey sense that tells
me to go to six meters and tryit at that time?
Like I don't know how.
Like, is there a tool I canlook at?

Speaker 4 (01:52:39):
I'm sure there are, but I, like I said, the best
thing to do is just three timesand see and go, like I would say
it put get on sideband between50.100 or 110 up to about 50.1,
70 and if you've got a waterfall, look across the waterfall.

(01:53:01):
If you don't look in.

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
I'm looking at six meters now, and it is flat, I
mean literally.
Well, it's nighttime too.
That's the other problem toothat's a daytime thing, probably
more so so the gut feelings iskind of like during daytime
hours, like you know, noon afterto like five and maybe
mid-morning sometimes.
Then it's just the wind, justto try.

Speaker 4 (01:53:20):
Well, the contact I just made tonight before we came
on was at 7.45 pm here, so youknow.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
I hear that all the time.
Mike Summer is always the like.
I have guys in our club, theVHF.
Uhf guys, that's all they say.
Summertime is always the besttime.
It's like great, do I sit athome all the time waiting for
summer to start and then liketry six meters, because I end up
always missing those windows uh, best time would be when
there's a contest going on.

(01:53:48):
I can guarantee that that's myother frustration.
Like 10 meters could be dead incontesting season would happen.
10 meters is alive.
It's like you know, it's likedon't tell me, it happens all
the time funny how that works.

Speaker 4 (01:54:00):
I mean it's, it's like I said I'm like.
I said I'm not a six-meter guy.
Tonight was the first six-metercontact I've made this year so
far and I've been trying tocheck it every night, knowing
that we're in June and June isthe time, so maybe that was a
good sign.
I was really excited when Iheard the call you know, victor
Yankee to Papa Charlie.

(01:54:21):
I'm like oh hell, yeah, that'snot an American.
And him being up in PrinceEdward Island was pretty cool.
I remember the guys weretalking Hard to do.

Speaker 1 (01:54:31):
The guys in our club were posted about it.
I'm trying to think what onesthey were talking, anyway, but
yeah, so I don't know it.
I, I sit there and I, like I,sadly I'm a, you know, an
appliance operator, so thereforeyou could say what you want.
But in essence I just expect,like hey, when I turn the radio
on, sometimes contacts should bethere, and the magic band is

(01:54:52):
not like that at all, like itjust literally just says the
opposite.

Speaker 4 (01:54:57):
And so what's really crazy is here in my town there's
a six-meter repeater and nobodyuses it.
Nobody uses it.
It's sad that we have asix-meter repeater here and it's
just been sitting there for thelast—I know for—I've been, you
know, kerchunking it for fiveyears plus and never made a

(01:55:18):
contact on that repeater.

Speaker 1 (01:55:20):
And you're running mainly vertical, right?
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, likethese guys, which is also not
the best for six, six meters.

Speaker 4 (01:55:30):
Better for, you know, horizontal.
I have, um, I haven't used ityet, but I have the momo beam
from the league uh, which is asix meter being a yagi or two
element beam with a moxon for 10meters wrapped around it.
I have that antenna.
I'm gonna get out with it soon.
I wanted to get out here, butthis month I just don't.
I got too much going on and Ihaven't had time to build it and

(01:55:52):
put it together.
Welcome yeah, I haven't workedin almost six weeks and I've
still been so damn busy.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
You probably said the word semi-retired somewhere in
there, and that's what set itoff.

Speaker 4 (01:56:06):
Yeah, yeah Well, and I've been gone here from the
house for a year so I've gotlike a list of honeydew stuff.
You know.
Everything else, you know, Ibought a camper.
We're going camping.
We're going to camping againnext weekend.
You know what I mean?
I'm just like I'm doing stuff,man, I'm having fun.

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
So, dude, that's actually a good question.
How's your RV life?
I mean, that's new to you.
Obviously, you're going tostart doing a heck of a lot more
with that, and you and the wife.

Speaker 4 (01:56:47):
Yeah, what time do you?
Definitely, especially in thefall and the winter when
everyone else else is not doingit, and I can like go to a
campground and, like you know,get a decent spot down here.
Right now I just like to campat the beach.
We have one place we love to goto, um and and um, that park.
I told you 1299, us 1299 is astate park.
The campground is amazing, so Ilove that.
Um, we'll probably go more asum.
It's hard to get reservationsright now for the summer because
they've been booked for a wholesummer.
But, um, next year I'llprobably book every other

(01:57:08):
weekend and do it if I can andhave fun doing that as well.
So that's fun.
It's just a little.
You know, we have got a littlebunkhouse camper, not much, it's
brand new, but that's nice.
But, uh, my grandsons went withus last time.
They're three and six and I now, every day time I walk in their
house.
You know, pops, we're goingcamping, pops, we're going

(01:57:30):
camping, so they're excitedabout it.
Yeah, so I got that and forthat they haven't even opened
them.
They're still wrapped in theplastic.
But, um, I got they.
I bought a?
Um, two walkie talkies with thebase station that goes with
them.
It says US Army on them.
It's like got the camo on it,like they're, and they run off a
nine, nine volt battery, youknow transistor batteries.

(01:57:51):
So we're going to set up the um, the little um, walkie-talkie
base station.
Um, we're gonna and then I'mgonna, they're both going to get
their walkie-talkies and we'regoing to play on the next game
You're going to have to haveGraham Graham one too as well.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
She's going to be part of the fun, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:58:05):
Yeah, she might run the base station and me and me.
I'll take the three-year-oldwith me.
He's the three-year-old's, thetalker, the six-year-old, he
don't have much to say.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
The three-year we might go hike down the beach
with our walkie talkie and talkto uh oh, dude, you gotta use
him, for you know you're callingout on poda.
Then you know, set him up and,and you know, have a call, learn
how to ccq and, dude, you'llhave rake it in like you know
you're running a yl yeah, well,yeah, that's what I do not
cheating my gosh, not cheating,see waltz agreed, it doesn't
matter, he's doing it dude, I Ihave operated.

Speaker 4 (01:58:42):
I did a photo activation with my wife while we
were camping and, um, the, thethe pileup was so bad it sounded
like just a giant echo comingthrough the thing.
As soon as she said k4, ogo, cqpowder, k-4-o-g-o-c-q-p-o-t-a

(01:59:02):
it's amazing how that works,isn't it?
It's like yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:59:06):
It does.
It's a blessing, for sure.
Yeah, I know Todd doesn't agreewith that statement whatsoever.

Speaker 4 (01:59:17):
But you know I'm holding that to my grave.
I call it the instant pileupbreaker.
I've had her on the beach withme at times and I'm sitting
there QRP and I know damn wellsomeone can hear me and I'm
getting piled on and piled onand I'll listen and I'll tell
her.
I was like, wait for it, waitfor it, wait for it.
Now she'll go K-4, ogo and thenhe'll go back Kilo 4, oscar,

(01:59:38):
golf Oscar, and I'll grab itback.
Hey, yeah, this is Kilo 4,oscar, golf Oscar.
Hey, how you doing Whatever.
I've done that before.
I wish I I'm going to do itagain and get it on video.
It was off frequency.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
Sorry, my voice was a little high-pitched.

Speaker 4 (01:59:53):
That's all I've done it.
It works.
It works well, but it's funny.

Speaker 1 (02:00:05):
Yeah it, but it's funny.
Yeah good, the instant pilotbreaker very cool.
So, uh, I want to circle backaround on the just this, the cb
kind of ham crossover thing,because it's a little weird, but
I like the idea, like you know,I guess what, what would you
want it like if we couldleverage our audience and our
subscriber base here and I'msure mike and a whole bunch of
other guys are on the chat tooas well would uh love to be, you
know, part of that process.
You know, maybe we can flushthis idea a little bit.

(02:00:28):
You know, I like kind of theidea, but you know what's your
thoughts on that.

Speaker 4 (02:00:34):
I want to take over.
I want a group of ham radiooperators.
Even if it's just one channel,maybe maybe we take.
Maybe we take 25, 26, 27, 30.
We find a channel and we takeit over and we make it ours and
we show them how to operate andit brings a whole new breed of
people over to ham radio and itbrings hams over to the 11-meter

(02:00:56):
band.

Speaker 2 (02:00:58):
I like that idea.

Speaker 4 (02:01:00):
Channel 37 is a channel right right yeah, 37 is
a very crowded channel is foryeah, it could be the reverse of
73, like the takeover.

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
You know, 73, 37.

Speaker 4 (02:01:11):
Yeah, yeah yeah, I like that, I like that.
That's kind of cool.
But yeah, we just find one anduh and do it and use lower
sideband on it and um and makeit ours.
I think that's what we need todo 24 hour.
35, 35, 35, 35's got some, yeah.
But hey, yeah, it could happen.
Or I think the channel would be30.

(02:01:32):
The 30 would be the one thatgravity's hardly anyone ever on
30 and it's just still up therehigh enough where we just use
lower sideband.
People would hear us.

Speaker 1 (02:01:40):
So the people that would get on lower sideband and
like would hear us and there'sno, there's no reason why we
couldn't do like, if you get toa certain geographic distance
where we get to an edge, youknow we could have another you
know 10, you know 11 meter guywho's just waiting on that same
band to do a relay and keepdoing the relay, and we can do a
relay across america, yeah,which would be really freaking

(02:02:01):
awesome maybe we should plan it,plan it and and and get a bunch
of we all like, do live streamsor something at the same time
on our channels and we call it,you know, the 11 meter takeover
that I don't know.
This will be a good litmus testfor you all to see whether or
not you know 10 meter.
You know 11 meter.
Uh, cb, can you know?
Topple a ham radio channel here, because I'm really the real

(02:02:24):
true ham radio channel hasn'tcrossed over into the, the
double or triple digits there,so I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (02:02:30):
Every time I've done a uh I I've done a uh cb.
It's what's really cool.
I've done cb videos and I thinkone of them.
If I go and look at myanalytics, I get more thumbs
down on those than any of theother ones.
But on the same thing I look atmy subscribers.
There you go, I'll lose likethree and I'll gain like 50.

(02:02:53):
It's crazy how that works.
I've got a lot of subscribersnow that are not hams, that are
CB guys, and they'll even comein.
You'll see them in the commentsof mine.
Walt man, you're convincing meto do this.
I'm going to get my ham radiolicense and to me that is the
greatest.
That's just so satisfying toknow that.

(02:03:13):
You know that I learned themover from CB into becoming a ham
.
And then I've had some guysthat are hams.
They're like hey man, I wentout, just like we're talking
right now.
I went out and got a CB.
It's kind of fun.
That's fun with it.
It's cool.

Speaker 1 (02:03:31):
Awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:03:31):
You got my number, so let me know.
We'll try and make it Illinoisto Virginia.

Speaker 4 (02:03:39):
That'd be cool, that would work.
I've worked um when 11 is open.
The Midwest tier to Virginia isusually a good skate.
You know it's in the, it's inthe skip zone there I usually I
I've hit Illinois a lot inChicagoland right around there.
Uh, it works pretty well.
11 meters into there does andthen up to around Boston area

(02:04:00):
from here as well.
So I think I might be the guythat would be the good middle
poor net operator, because Icould get into northern New
England and I could get to theMidwest pretty well.

Speaker 2 (02:04:16):
That would be kind of cool.
Hey guys, sounds like we got toget our CB radio, I know.

Speaker 1 (02:04:21):
Another radio.
That was going to be achallenge for the house here,
but I was thinking, you know, ifwe can get Walt to come up to
the 24-hour poda, we should justset up an 11-meter CB.
That would be awesome and justdo that, and you know, and try
it out, why not?
Like I mean, that would just bea.
I'm sure we would throw a lotof people into a tizzy while
we're doing CQ, pota and havingan 11-meter radio over there and

(02:04:44):
making contacts too as well,that would be freaking
phenomenal.
All right, we have to set thatone up.
We'll sneak over there and I'llpick up Paul's Bearcat and
we'll start making that happen.

Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
You said the Bearcat's the same one as the
President, the President George.

Speaker 4 (02:05:03):
FCC and the Bearcat SSB.
What 980?
If you look at them and holdthem side by side, it's the same
case.
Bearcat and President are thesame people built by the same
guys.
It's the same radio.
But you could find, I guaranteeyou you look on ebay or
whatever for a um, for a bearcatssb.

(02:05:25):
You, I, I bet you find one onthere around 100, 100 or so use
if you want to just buy a usedone.
But but I would recommend justgo get a brand new president
george fcc for like 180, 185.
You might as well.
You get everything, includingthe cool stickers in the box
that say President CB on my bluebucket here.

(02:05:48):
I got you guys on my bucket aswell.
But you get, let's see here.
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (02:05:59):
We've got to send you a like a.
You have the regular lid coverright, like the plastic lid that
comes with that thing.

Speaker 4 (02:06:06):
I don't.
I need to get one.

Speaker 1 (02:06:08):
We need to send you a padded lid For that.
So, therefore, you've gotsomething To sit on that's
comfortable, too, as well.

Speaker 4 (02:06:14):
Yeah, you've got to realize they're upside down to
you because I've got stuff in it, but when I'm on the beach it
flips over.
I think I got all of you guys.

Speaker 1 (02:06:22):
You just need to carry two of them, then you
stack them together and then youcan struggle on the beach
trying to separate them becausethey're suctioned together.
But you might have a way to sit.

Speaker 4 (02:06:32):
I'm looking for my Where's it at.
I know it's on here.
I got my little New Hampshiresticker.
Just look for the.

Speaker 1 (02:06:42):
New Hampshire sticker .

Speaker 4 (02:06:46):
I got it for you guys .
Oh there, it is right there.
I don't know if you can see it.
Oh, there it is.

Speaker 1 (02:06:54):
That's it, it's on here we're right side up when
you flip it when I'm sitting onthe beach, this becomes the mic
mic's onto something hereco-phase blue buckets.
We'll see that might be anoption.
Maybe it's another hot seller.

(02:07:15):
So it's sort of like how themagic carpet is.
You know, we can figure out howto tune up two blue, two
buckets and make them co-phased.
Very cool.
Well, oh, man, dude, this is alot to think about, I don't know
, you know.
Well, you know, I'll have tochew on, as they say.
Uh, you know, if paul's willingto throw something in the ring
for me to kind of play aroundwith what, with too much, uh a

(02:07:39):
name.

Speaker 4 (02:07:40):
I call it the takeover, but that's a little
bit too aggressive, it's toocombative.
You know ham versus CB.
We got to come up.
We don't want to do something,like you know, make CB great
again.
That's kind of that's toocliche.
You know, that's been likeright off the bat.
Like you know that ain't gonnawork.

Speaker 3 (02:07:58):
We gotta come up with a name Make CB Ham again.

Speaker 4 (02:08:01):
Make CB Ham again.
It used to be a ham band, itwas, it was, it was for a long
time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:08:08):
Until we gave up that and 220 and a bunch of other
bands that you know we want backnow, apparently.
So, oh man, all right, I gottaclose this page, because I keep
looking at new cb radios andthey're, all you know, starting
to attract me.

Speaker 4 (02:08:22):
But aren't they awesome?
That's just the other thing.
You're gonna get sucked intothat whole world too they're not
.

Speaker 1 (02:08:27):
They're nice to like.
I mean, they're not like what Iremember them to be, and that's
kind of what the problem is.
I got that image in my head oflike the old, like clunky big
giant.
You know chrome covered, youknow everything, you know radios
with the mic that could killsomebody kind of thing
Everywhere I'm looking, thePresident George CB radio is
like $279.

Speaker 4 (02:08:47):
Is that the George FCC or the George?
They're different.

Speaker 2 (02:08:51):
Yeah, George, FCC $279 on it.

Speaker 4 (02:08:55):
I did a video on it recently.
I probably drove the price up.
Thanks, walt, it pisses me off.

Speaker 2 (02:09:00):
Thanks, dude.
That's the cheapest one I canfind, really.

Speaker 4 (02:09:05):
Yeah, I was like $198 when I got mine.
That's crazy.
Paul will sell you one for areally good deal, I'll make a
deal right.

Speaker 3 (02:09:14):
So, eric Todd, whichever one of you wants it
right, my extra Bearcat yeah, ifyou play with it and you like
it, I'll sell it to you for $100.

Speaker 4 (02:09:26):
That's a good radio.
I have one.
I like it.
That's a great radio.

Speaker 3 (02:09:31):
I've had that mounted .

Speaker 4 (02:09:32):
If you go to, my page and go to my shorts.
If you look through my shortsyou'll see the Bearcat.
And I'm talking to a guy inJamaica on the Bearcat and I'm
talking to a guy in.

Speaker 2 (02:09:41):
Jamaica on the Bearcat.
Is that the 980?
You said yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that one that's going forthat's.
Where is that?
Cb World?

Speaker 4 (02:09:51):
It's 200 bucks, that's an old radio, but a good
one.
That's why it's still around,so it's such a great radio.

Speaker 2 (02:09:59):
Sweet.
Is that the one you have, paul,the 980?
Yep, yeah, that looks sweet, itlooks slick, it looks elegant,
like it belongs in, like a.

Speaker 1 (02:10:11):
You know what it looks like it looks like the
Remember the 1980s, like Pioneerstereos that we used to have on
our trucks, that kind of look.
That's exactly Like I would getteased by my wife because when
I was younger I was into bigstereos and stuff like that.
So I bought a Pioneer with adetachable face, but the big
seller on it was that it haddigitized dolphins that would
jump across the screen and allmy friends would make fun of oh,

(02:10:33):
you're the dolphin guy, you'reradio.
So that's kind of what thecolors looked like, but that's
cool.

Speaker 4 (02:10:46):
Another radio that's still out there.
A lot of people still have alot of them in stock, but it was
discontinued.
I like it.
It's probably my favoritebecause it has a front speaker
on it.
It's the President McKinley FCC.
Go look for the PresidentMcKinley FCC.
I think I paid $179 for mine onAmazon.

Speaker 1 (02:10:57):
Direct from President .
Yeah, these look exactly how Ihave always envisioned CB radios
.
That kind of look small littledisplay, big, you know.
Speaker up front.

Speaker 4 (02:11:07):
Yeah, but that thing sounds good because that speaker
on the front.

Speaker 1 (02:11:11):
Hmm.

Speaker 4 (02:11:13):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (02:11:14):
They got a president bill three.
What's that?
The president bill?
They got the bill, yeah, but Idon't think bill they get the
bill yeah, but I don't think thebills the bills, not a side.
Yeah, yeah, it's only AM FM.

Speaker 4 (02:11:29):
That's the problem with that one.

Speaker 2 (02:11:31):
Yeah, he said McKinley.
Yeah, mckinley is one 79.
That's the deal.

Speaker 4 (02:11:36):
That's the best deal you're going to find for a brand
new radio and I, honestly thatyou're going to find for a brand
new radio and, honestly, thatone's my favorite.
I've got that one right now.
Honestly, if we all starttalking and doing it, that's the
one I'm going to use.
I had that one and that's why Igave Mike the George.
I like the George, but I likeMcKinley better.
So I knew I'd never use itanymore, so I gave it to Mike,

(02:11:57):
right Sweet.

Speaker 1 (02:12:01):
This is not a good thing.
I yeah, I had other plans forother radios.
Now, thanks guys, paul, I may,I may, be driving over there
tomorrow.
I think we're gonna arrangethat.
Uh, then I got freaking a.
Now I have to figure out how toput an antenna up for it.
That's gonna be even worse.
Thanks a lot.
I'm an ho, an HOA.

Speaker 2 (02:12:19):
I'm an HOA.

Speaker 4 (02:12:24):
How many 10 meter antennas do you have?

Speaker 3 (02:12:26):
I actually have a tram in the closet.

Speaker 4 (02:12:29):
I have one too, the gold one, the one with the black
Yep, the short one.
I've done a couple videos onthat.
I've talked some.
Skip with that thing too.
Man, that's a great littleantenna.

Speaker 1 (02:12:39):
I can only imagine what that one looks like, and
it's probably not like, uh, youknow, nice and camouflaged it
would probably stick out likeit's only about about three and
a half four feet long.

Speaker 3 (02:12:50):
It's short yeah, I don't, I don't think it's even
four feet yeah oh fuck, listen,listen.

Speaker 4 (02:13:02):
I'm telling you right now go watch mower junkie,
watch these guys start spendingmoney because summertime.
The next june, july and augustare the the crap dump, horrible
time of the year for the 11meter band.
It's just not going to be there.
But in august, september,october, november, man, you'll

(02:13:25):
be talking skip like crazy.
And when we get out of, butreason being is when we're
tilted and like in the solstice,the um, you know, up here in
the northern hemisphere we'rethe closest to the sun and it's
called d layer absorption.
The d layer gets so cooked thatlike 10 meters and 11 meters
just are dead all summer becauseof it, so because of d layer

(02:13:48):
absorption.
So cb is not going to be likethis.
Really isn't the time to becomea cb.
Or I would say, wait about, youknow, first of september and
everything's going to startgoing crazy again, it'll be
awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:14:00):
Basically, you got to buy now and get it all set up
for September.

Speaker 4 (02:14:04):
Get it all set up, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:14:05):
Yeah, I was just thinking about considering
buying a six-meter vertical forsix-meter stuff.
Now that's going to be likemaybe I'll wait to see me.

Speaker 3 (02:14:14):
Yeah, Like I said, just play with my extra stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:14:21):
Yeah, then you don't have to put any money out of
your pocket, right yet, wow,okay, yeah well, my job here is
done.

Speaker 4 (02:14:33):
I'm seeing I'm converting more people over to
11 meters.

Speaker 2 (02:14:37):
We're gonna take it over wait till this airs and
like you get like more peoplewatching it, you'll be like, oh
crap, the cb radios will begoing up oh yeah, that's the
problem.

Speaker 1 (02:14:51):
Like when this airs, all of a sudden it's like what I
was originally going to bepaying well, I mean, I'm going
to get a good deal either way.
So you know, I'll just have tofight it out with the todd there
, but it's like I?

Speaker 4 (02:15:01):
um?
You remember what the firstvideo I did on the little red
slug with the you know thetelescopic antenna with the
little red slug on the bottom Ibought.
It was 1999 on aliexpress.
When I bought it I advertisedit and I would show that in the
video, or whatever.
That video had 21 000 views inthe first week I had it up and

(02:15:22):
you could not buy that thing onAliExpress for less than $55.
They knew it.
They knew it.
It was going crazy.
I guess the sales were goingcrazy and they just jacked the
price up, pissed me off.

Speaker 1 (02:15:36):
That's the way it works, man.
That's how they know they canget the money.
Supply and demand All right.
That's how they know that itcan fly in demand oh, all right.
Well, uh, you know, we couldkeep going forever and I feel
like if we keep going forever, Iactually might already have my
cart uh, added.
And you know other other.
You know, because at this pointif I have a cb, you know, here
in the shack, I'm gonna have toget another power supply.

(02:15:57):
So that's another.
You know, 100, 200, dependingon which one I go.

Speaker 3 (02:16:02):
Yeah, fuck uh, you know what?
I got an extra power supply atthe house just stop stop, just
stop I love you.

Speaker 1 (02:16:10):
Man don't get me angry at you this is.
This is the first time where,like, I've got shit that you can
use I know, I know, and the sadpart is I feel really bad
because I'd pay you for it andthen I know where it would go,
because it's going to skydivinginstead of other radios.
But that's just kind of thetradeoff that I'd have to deal

(02:16:31):
with.
I'd be okay and comfortablewith that because I know where
your next hobby's going.

Speaker 2 (02:16:36):
You know, paul, you might want to hold off on that
deal and after this airs,there'll be a shortage of CBU.
I know you might be able to getlike $200, $300 for it.

Speaker 4 (02:16:47):
I think that's how many more jumps you could get
All right.
Here's going to be thechallenge.
I'm going to talk to you guysSaturday night and we're going
to see if Eric spent any moneybefore.

Speaker 1 (02:16:59):
On the 20th.
Yeah, for near when we're onthat.
Yeah, okay, I see where thetarget date is.
Now I'm already gonna talkabout, you know, vegetarian
brisket and I'm gonna have tonow talk about cv.
What the hell is this mychannel coming to?
Uh, dude, thank you, walt, Iappreciate it all right, bro,
I'm doing my part man, I knowyou, you're just that's what ham

(02:17:22):
buddies are for.
And friends, even closer friends, uh, help you spend your money
in a really realistic way.
I mean, heck, you know we do itto tot all the time, that's
what we do.

Speaker 2 (02:17:30):
I know, god, these guys spending all my money.
Uh, you like it?

Speaker 1 (02:17:35):
you ask for it.
Oh man, all right, cool.
Anything else you want to addthere, anything uh coming up uh
soon on the channel there.
There that you want to tease alittle bit there.

Speaker 4 (02:17:47):
I got a few things coming up.
I'm going to tomorrow.
I'm going to go out with that,like I said, the little G106.
And then Wednesday morningwe're going to get up.
My wife and I are going to headdown the Kitty Hawk out on the
Outer Banks.
I've been adding and moddingthat JPC-12 antenna left and
right.
Well, I got a capacitance hatfor it.

(02:18:08):
I'm going to put that on it andgo out, I guess with the G90 in
the morning, work a little DXon the beach there.
I've got some cool stuff comingup.
I've got an entire phase systemfor phase verticals.
I can get on the beach andoperate with some phase
verticals.

(02:18:28):
That's right off the bat.
I honestly have been sent somuch stuff that I'm starting to
feel guilty.
I've got to get out new videoson them, on some radios and some
things, antenna parts and stufflike that.
But we'll see Sometimes.
I usually make a plan of videosand what I'm going to do.

(02:18:51):
I've got about eight or nine ofthem planned right now and it
never goes as planned.
I wake up one morning and go Iwant to use that today instead
of that or whatever, and go fromthere.
But you keep seeing me lookingover here.
I've got like a stack of uh ofboxes that I've gotten that.
Um, I do have that little pa.
I was sent the little pa50amplifier so I'm gonna take a

(02:19:13):
little qp qrp radio out on thebeach, so a little 50 watt
amplifier, and use that one onemorning.
Um, everything's in the morningnow.
I love operating in the morningbecause that's when I can
really work the best DX over tothe Pacific.
I do have a job offer on thetable right now.
That's pulling me.
I don't know if I want to takeit or not, but it would mean I'd

(02:19:34):
have to go to Houston for liketwo months and then come back
home.
I don't know if I want to dothat, I'm tired being on the
road, but I might do that.
If that happens, I'll be down,maybe head on the beach in
galveston or something.
But nice, I don't know, I'mgonna do it.
I just I'm tired.
I'm gonna be home, you know mefor the summer and um, and we'll
see so.
But um, that's pretty much itcool.

Speaker 1 (02:19:56):
Well, take, see what happens well, man, based off of
what you just said, it soundslike, uh, you know, we'll be
seeing a lot more uh, you know,salty waltz videos on the
channel than we've seen already.
I mean already the bunch ofstuff you've already added.
It's like I'm trying to keeppace with it.
Like mike says, I keep addingto the queue, keep adding to the
queue.
It's like eventually I'll getlike I can't do my job and
everything else I have to do,including creating my own videos

(02:20:18):
, because I'm busy catching upon all the other videos.

Speaker 4 (02:20:20):
So it's good to see I try to keep my videos between
eight and ten minutes long, butthe lately, the last two or
three of them, have been like 25minutes long, kind of like
they're growing.

Speaker 1 (02:20:28):
I'm sorry, but uh, yeah, we'll see dude, totally
fine, we all love your stuff andit's always good content to see
out there and you know it'salways a blast and we'll we'll
definitely keep exploring, uh,this cb stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:20:41):
Uh, you know we'll take small steps there, you know
well, if you notice my lastvideo too, I'm not eating
lobster rolls and um and andstuff anymore.
It was shrimp and grits, true,southern shrimp and grits.
Out of the last video it wasbreakfast time.
So, uh, yeah, I, I, I do, I domiss my, uh, I, my, I do miss my
, my, my clam cakes and you know, and stuffies, my stuffy clams

(02:21:07):
and everything there from RhodeIsland.
I miss that.
But other than that, yeah, I'llkeep rolling.

Speaker 1 (02:21:12):
Yeah, your ships on the air video.
My wife is like so the firstthing she saw when you cut to, I
guess you were looking at theclam cakes.
You know the vendor.
She's like I'm going to have totry that.
I'm like you want to try whatclam cakes?
What's wrong with you like?
You know she's not like shelikes seafood but she's not like
wanting to like go venture outof the.
You know the dorm, so all thecrab cakes yeah so, uh, yeah,

(02:21:34):
now you know we're frequentinglike, uh, you know, a lot of the
portsmouth sea, you know, foodfairs and stuff like that.
Just like I'm on the lookoutfor that stuff it's.
I'm like, yeah, but it could bea hit or miss.
You have to really know.
You know it could really affectyou later down the road and
you'll never know it.
So, yeah, cool, all right, well, awesome, you know.
So, dude, it was a blast tohave you on.

(02:21:54):
Thanks for you know, uh, cominguh on and talking cb.
I know we we talked about it acouple episodes before and we
were just like we I wouldn't saywe trashed it, but you know, we
were just kinda we weretrashing on Paul because he was
like, ah, I use the CB fortraffic reports.
I was like, dude, you ever hearthe app called the ways?
Because ways tells you you knowwhat lanes have blocked traffic

(02:22:15):
.
You don't have to talk to a CBor listen to CB to get that
information, and that kind ofsparked the idea to get that
information and that kind ofsparked the idea.
So I was like, oh man, we gottahave Walt on to talk CB,
because I know him and othershave done some good stuff.
And I talk to Rob a little bitoffline because him and I have
been trying to coordinate a POTAactivation up at Minuteman,
because he comes up this way forworks every once in a while.

(02:22:35):
So I wanted to talk to himabout CB stuff.
But I figured you'd be the manand you did not you not just
rob's the man too?

Speaker 4 (02:22:42):
rob's a really good cb, or something he knows it
well.

Speaker 1 (02:22:45):
but uh, yeah, you know, you definitely have opened
my mind.
Sadly, you know, I thought Ihad all.
I thought I only had hand radioroom, but now apparently I've
got more.
So there you go.
All good, sweet, all right.
Well, let's kind of put a bowon tonight's episode, because I
know I had a blast and and again.
Hanging out with Walt is alwaysfun to do and so with that you

(02:23:07):
always can head over to ourcommunity over on, will be in
the circle of trust here.
We won't trash you, we willsupport you and let's move this
movement forward.
We'll take CB back from a hamradio perspective and maybe

(02:23:31):
bring over some good CBers overto the ham radio world.
Let's try it out, let's getmoving on it.
So let's make this grassrootsthing be kind of cool.
But all that can be headed overto Discord.
And as always, like we said,make sure you subscribe to our
YouTube channel, catch all ofour awesome content over there.
And make sure you subscribe toWalt's channel over at Coastal

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He's got an awesome channelthere.
If you've never seen any of hiscontent, definitely go through
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Awesome stuff, as always.
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