We Just Hit Record and Let It Fly: A Different Kind of Episode

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey y'all, Welcome to another Live Free and Am a
podcast Wanted to just let youknow this episode is going to be
a little different than most ofour usual ones that are in the
catalog.
It's been a rough week, so wejust kind of press the record
button and let it fly.
Hope you enjoy.
Oh hello, what took you so long?

(00:20):
405 traffic.
What the hell is wrong withthat highway?
Like I don't understand, why doyou go to Mass?
It's fucking Massachusetts.
I had to go to Mass because mybrother-in-law's son was playing
over at New England BaseballComplex A 16U tournament and we
wanted to go see him play.
So big family support, I mean.

(00:41):
He used to come up all the timeand watch Cody play, so it's
kind of one of those things thatyou do.
You felt, you felt obligated.
Yeah, that's well, and it wasfun to watch because I didn't
have a horse in this, you know,in the in the chase as they say.
So it didn't matter, I couldjust kind of watch and enjoy and
have fun.
And you know they don't let youdrink there, so I didn't get a
chance to drink.
But you know, thank god theydon't because I'm parents man.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, I'd have been like listen, just live stream it
and I'm going to sit at homeand drink that would be true.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Let's go to this view .
Here we go, there we go.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, my team sucks.
Oh, they just well, they cametoday and you know I had to be
in full uniform because it's thefreaking districts, which is
stupid, and the one coachdecided that he's going to just
hang at the lake and not show up, but he dropped his kid, had
his grandfather drop his kid offI've had that happen, yep so I

(01:39):
was like and they, they come upto no one, hit Zach, got a walk
and stole the bases and then gotinto like a beef with the third
baseman because the thirdbaseman was blocking the plate.
I mean blocking the base andthey didn't.
They overthrew second.
So they didn't, he didn't.

(02:00):
You know, they didn't make theplate a third, so it really
wasn't interference.
So then, so the kid was talkingshit to him.
So Zach starts talking shit.
I thought they're going to goat it.
I'm like, listen, I go, justignore him, just score and you
can stick in his face.
So Zach literally steals homeon.
It was like a grounder to likethe third basement and he goes

(02:22):
for it.
I'm like, what the hell are youdoing?
And he got under the tag and hewas safe and he kind of goes
and he points to him.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, but I told him.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I said I go, listen, he goes.
Next time I'm running low.
I'm like no, I go, you justslide into the base, you take
him out on his ankles andthat'll be the end of it.
He'd probably be out of thegame for the rest of the game.
He's blocking the.
I mean he's in the baseline.
You're supposed to slide.
He goes.
That's a good idea.
Well, I'm from.
I'm from New Jersey, you know.
I'm from New Jersey, you knowyou gotta that's where you,

(02:55):
that's how we used to play.
Yeah, Well, back in our day hadactually like metal spikes on,
would we actually sharpen to apoint now, yeah, they check
spikes, they don't even check.
They just ask like, is everyoneequipment?
We, are everyone equippedproperly?
I was like yeah, I guess, likeI'm like sure everything's great

(03:16):
.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
We don't have illegal items here whatsoever I don't
want you.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I mean this kid was.
I mean this kid was probably Idon't know five, eight, five,
nine, like definitely hitpuberty, big kid.
He's 12 years old.
Maybe he wasn't, yeah, but hewas in the way.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
How was my audio Speaking of?
I didn't really actually checkany levels, Am I okay?
It's a little low but it's alittle low, but not bad.
I could fix that really quicklyhere flip the switch here.
So, uh, how was uh firstintroductions?

(03:56):
Uh dealing with dude he's uh itwas, it was good, what are you
fooling around with?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
just the layouts again yeah, well, I was just.
Yeah, I just the chat should bedown at the bottom whatever man
so it was like no one's in thechat.
I was hoping that I could justmove the box and it would just
auto fucking flip it, but itdidn't want to do that yeah,

(04:23):
it's all manual kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
You have to click on it.
How's the audio better now?

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah you're good Okay cool, leave it at that level
then.
But yeah, no, he's a, he's anice guy.
Um, like I, I, I showed up, uh,I was there, must have been
like a few minutes before,because he already had, uh, his,
his, um, what's little dude,the fucking, oh yeah, the little

(04:57):
his mask holder thing, yeah, hebroke it.
What, wow, he broke it.
So he was, he was fuckingaround with, like trying to get
the the mask to stay on, likejust the little stub, um, but
yeah, that was cool, uh,interesting to see like how he's
gotta, you know this full tenof fucking set up there and
right he's creative like I.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Every once in a while I I think I subscribe to him
and every once in a while I falloff, because youtube likes to
strip subscribers randomly frommy feed and I'm sure it does to
everybody else.
Why do they do that?
I don't know.
I can't quite figure it out,but I can literally count the
days where all of a sudden I hitthree or four and then I post a
bunch of things content-wideand people fall off and then

(05:39):
they come back again.
So it's like whatever Sillystupid algorithm.
But yeah, he just, you know he'sgot some interesting like you
know, like I, like how he likesto iterate on stuff a little bit
.
Like he takes it, you know, alittle bit in a different
direction or, you know, takes acommercial idea and kind of
elaborates on them.
I know he kind of gets a littlecrap from people sometimes.

(06:01):
You know style and whatnot.
But yeah know, hey, to eachtheir own.
They say, yeah, so cool, well,you got a video on that one, or
you just kind of go hang outwith them um, it's gonna be an
interesting video as you justremembered that you were there
to do some video or like uh well.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
So like yeah, I mean I I showed up, uh, and he was
already setting up, so I I justkind of like did a quick, you
know, oh, here's fucking himwith his mast and the fucking
antenna, and and then, like wejust got to talking and then I
was like, oh, you're notrecording, right, because we

(06:43):
were talking like some personalstuff.
And I was like, yeah, nope, notrecording, nope, okay.
And then he started calling cqand I'm like, oh, yeah, I've
probably turned the fuckingcamera on nice as a movie target
.
Yeah, so I so I did the, uh,the intro to the video.
After all, the contacts weremade.

(07:04):
Okay.
That's fine Then.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, then I'll just have to record a you know a
little outro and be like, andyeah, Trust me, the same thing
with when I went, did the wholeMarconi, with Chris and his son
and and Jimmy.
I forgot to do the intro and soI recorded the like, literally
I I forgot to do the intro andso I recorded the like,
literally I recorded the endingwith him.
I recorded the video I sent toHR2O with Jimmy and then I like

(07:29):
they kind of were all leavingand they're like what are you
doing?
I'm like I got to record theintro, so I was just like, okay,
this will seem a littlebackwards, but it'll all make
sense when you stitch it backtogether.
Which is they're like fine, nowyou know now.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
You know the magic behind the curtain.
You know we all don't get itright.
What's the?
What are we talking about today?
I?

Speaker 1 (07:50):
don't care your mom, it's about to come around
someday.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
She's still in a, still stuck in bed.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
She's still in rehab and everything.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, she's at everything, yeah, she's out of
rehab but she's just well.
The insurance stopped payingfor it.
And then you know, I'm.
I'm sorry, but I have no faithin humanity because no one I
work with has any competence andhospitals and rehabs don't have
any confidence.
So they sent her home and for aweek and a half she she had no
one checking on her.
So I said let me go talk to theCEO of that fucking dirtbag

(08:29):
place.
I'm like you got to be kiddingme.
The place was a dump anyway andit was some social worker that
didn't do their job.
And again I'm like, well,nothing will happen to him.
They'll probably get apromotion and be the CEO in a
couple years.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
It's not any better.
Even on on the VA side with mydad and rehabs.
He was in rehabs for like eight, eight, nine months, probably a
little bit more than I thinkalmost a year, and yeah, that
was a fricking clusterfuck, Imean.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I mean I don't understand why people aren't
held accountable, like thatperson should have been either
written up or you know, havebeen either written up or you
know, doc, pay or whatever.
I mean it's just crazy thatthey don't.
They just don't do their job.
And it happens at my work allthe time like people literally
don't do their jobs and peopledie and nothing happens.

(09:15):
They're like, oh, that's toobad.
Well, we only had 10 people diethis year.
Last year we had 14.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Good job we get a gold sticker like a bonus.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
I told the director.
I said I said you know, I go.
That's what the problem withyou people are.
As I said, you shouldn't behappy or or thinking it's an
improvement that you only let 10people die, because that's 24
people in two years, 24 kids youlet die under your care.
I said when you get down tozero, then let's celebrate.
You don't understand, todd?

(09:48):
Oh, I do.
You don't, baby killers.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Next on Liffrey and Ham.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Oh my God, I'm telling you.
I told him.
I said if I ever get fired, Isaid I'm seriously going to
start a YouTube chain about allthe bullshit and shit that I
know, like all the corruption.
And we had a girl show up.
She was ordered to go to ahouse to do a well check on an
infant, Okay, which means youhave to go to the house and

(10:20):
actually see the infant and makesure it's breathing, it's
healthy, it's got food, you knowwhatever.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Plain diaper yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
She goes in there, she shoots the shit with the
parents and leaves.
Two days later they find thecops go in there, they find the
baby dead.
For a week, which was she wasthere when the kid was in the
crib dead and nothing happenedto her, shows up the next day at
work like nothing happened.
I was like what the fuck?
I don't know how you do yourjob, why do you I go?

(10:51):
How is that?
And of course it was all secret.
So when I was telling thedirector this, she looked like
her eyes were like how do youknow about that?
And I said well, marie, I saideveryone in our office knows
about it and the fact that youdidn't do anything about it
makes a lot of us have norespect on you, because that
supervisor should have beenfired and so should have that

(11:12):
worker.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
But so all right, let me ask a really stupid question
, right, but why?
Why isn't there somebody underunder the whistleblowers act
like fucking, just reporting allthis shit?
Like, why do we, why do weallow government run fucking
programs to be shitty becausenobody's willing to fucking step

(11:34):
up?

Speaker 3 (11:46):
in juvenile justice my reputation is I don't give a
fuck and I say whatever I wantin public places to them.
Like I literally tell peopleyou kill kids and they start
crying and I'm like stop crying,you did it because you're
incompetent, todd, you can't saythat.
They told me I couldn't talkabout the, that murder or that
guy that killed his daughterthat went missing.
And they said you can't talkabout that.
And I was like then write me up.

(12:08):
I said I can talk about it.
The whole freaking country istalking about it.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
You're talking about the guy that had the girl in a
fucking duffel bag at theceiling.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, yeah, they told me not to talk about it and I
said I'm fucking going to talkabout it as much as I want and I
told him I said go ahead andfire me.
I said I got more documentationand shit of all your people and
I said I would love you to fireme because then I could
actually retire and actually sueyour ass for money.
We just gave $10 million awayto a kid that wasn't abused $2

(12:43):
million, $2 million.
The kid in Merrimack, $2.2million because DCYF didn't do
their job, but so all right.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
if it's that bad, why do you have to wait till you
get fired, Like, why not justfucking report them?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Well, the problem is, it's all corrupt.
Who do you report it to?
I tried to report.
I tried to report to HRsomething they did One of the
supervisors did to me.
Hr said we're not dealing withthis, send it back to the
administration.
The administration says well,we're not doing anything about
it.
So they said call the ombudsman.

(13:19):
So I called the ombudsman.
The ombudsman says we don'tdeal with state employers.
Send an email tostaffmattersorg.
I'm like what.
And then I sent them an emailand they said would you like to
file a complaint?
Yes, and I haven't heard fromhim in like a week.
So it's all connected.

(13:39):
It's all corrupt.
You go to the commissioner.
You don't know who's the person.
I mean, I've gone to statesenators like Ted Gatsas.
You know that guy, that mayor.
I literally had a guy.
He gave me his personal phonenumber and I tell him all this
shit, nothing happens, nothingso who do you go to?

(14:00):
I mean I'm going to he's on theexecutive council.
How much higher do I have to gocall the president?
Be like dude Donald, I got aproblem.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I may not work either , but whatever.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I don't know, djt might fix it.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I mean, I don't know where I don't know, as long as
he's got you in his back pocket.
I guess, oh man, corruptionexists everywhere.
Like I used to work for JPMorgan dude back pocket, I guess
, oh man, corruption existseverywhere.
I used to work for JPMorgandude and I had a guy who
literally was pissed off becauseI took a job from him.
I moved up laterally in mydepartment and took the job that

(14:37):
he was applying to outside ofanother apartment.
He made it his vendetta foreight years in the company to
try to get me fired, like doingstupid stuff, putting fake
claims in that I don't do this,I'm running illegal businesses
out of my house.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
You know that's where my dad and grandfather worked.
I know my grandfather.
He was a mail boy, like themail kid when he was like 17
years old, and he used to readthe paper on the train and then
when he delivered the mail hewould talk to like the bigwigs
and tell them what he thought.
And he never went to collegeand he made it all the way up to

(15:17):
like vice president.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, that's a rarity in the JP Morgan world that I
came from, like becauseeverybody was like, well, like
you could leave, like you couldgo to, you could start there,
get a current salary, six monthslater decide you're going to
quit because they weren't goingto give you a pay raise.
Come back two months later andthey give you the pay raise plus
a, a level up in you knowyou're basically a title and a

(15:43):
whole bunch of other stuff.
It's like totally ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
So my dad, worked for Price Waterhouse and then he
went to manufacturers Hanover,then it went to chemical and it
went to chase and now it's partof case.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I was part of chemical chase and JP.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
So he left.
He's like I'm not doing anothermerger, so he left.
That was horrible when theywent to, when they went to chase
jp morgan chase.
But when he ended his career hewas the um, the cfo of their
securities.
So he was like the guy and hehad two offices in manhattan,
like uptown and downtown.

(16:19):
And he says it was so boringbecause, like for I don't know
five years or whatever, he likefixed everything that was wrong
and it was just running smoothlyand he'd sign off on the things
.
So he'd walk uptown anddowntown just for shits and
giggles and I'm like why didn'tyou retire earlier?
He goes.
It's hard to retire when theyend up paying so much money to

(16:41):
do nothing.
He goes.
It'd be stupid.
They were screaming over leftand right and then when he
retired, they paid him fiveyears salary to retire.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
JP Morgan.
When JP Morgan came on board, Iliterally had a pension with
them and it was literally 100%funded by them.
But it was 100% funded in thestock.
And so before the stupid dotcom bubble burst, I had like, I
mean, I was sitting pretty as a24-year-old 25-year-old Actually
, no, probably 27,.
Whatever it was, you still ownthe shares.

(17:12):
No, they're worth shit now.
Why?
Well, because when I left theydevalued them so much that the
$90 I got in at ended upbecoming like $22.
And then by the time I couldactually get them fully vested
is the last year I left.
And, yeah, at that point it wasgarbage, it was just nothing,

(17:34):
because it was so bad.
I mean the market had tanked,all of the value in those shares
just went away.
And then they kept forcingeverybody in the company to say,
hey, you got a 401k, 50% ofyour 401k has to be in JP Morgan
stock.
So I got screwed twice.
Yeah, but the stock's up.
Now it is now I mean it's 20years ago.
I mean I was there with themway back in 2000.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
So it's been a long time I bought some.
I think my first shares of JPMorgan I bought were $92 a share
.
Now it's like what?
Almost $200?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Dude.
I was with that company for solong I'm about to drag this out
but we were in a division at theLowell Wang Towers and they
were going to close thatdivision.
It was Client Access Solutionsor something like that.
I think that's what it was.
They were closing it After 10years.
Every five years they keeptelling us oh no, we're going to
keep you on, oh no, we're goingto keep you on.
And literally I was one of thelast three people to close the
facility because they had tokeep us on to babysit these

(18:33):
archaic systems for folks likeADP, were you doing IT?
for them.
Oh yeah, I was doing IT forthem.
And so, yeah, I, literally Iwould go into work every morning
and I would sit in a serverroom and kind of go and like
stare at this you know piece ofequipment in the rack to make
sure the lights stay green.
If they didn't stay green I hadto reboot it, and if it didn't
come back I had to go find partsthat we had a pile over in the

(18:56):
corner to throw in there to makeit work.
It was pretty bad.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
When we went to England my dad got a compact
computer.
That was a long time ago yeah.
The thing.
It weighs like 40, 50 pounds.
It's got like 64 megabytes init.
My dad, up until maybe fiveyears ago, was still using it to
write down his stock pricesevery day.

(19:22):
And I said Dad, you know, youcan do this online Get yourself
an iPad.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
It's much faster.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, until I showed him.
I said, dude, this is how youdo it, but he still has it.
I said don't get rid of that.
I go, that thing's going to beworth something.
And he goes yeah, he goes.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
It was a $10,000 computer when they gave it to me
and a computer when they gaveit to me and then when I retired
they just told me to keep it.
I'm like, yeah, because no onewants that piece of shit.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's not worth a hundred bucks, are we?

Speaker 1 (19:51):
going to do any of the show, or do we want to just
keep going?
I'm cool with whatever man.
This is one of those showsthat's going to really throw
people a curve, because you guyshave been talking for 54
minutes already and I justjumped in and picked right back
up.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, we're just shooting the shit.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Okay, well, you want to pause and you feel like
testing tonight, todd, if youdon't Not really?
Okay.
Okay, paul, you got the nightoff.
I'm sure you prepared, yeah.
So, oh man, I don't know, like,what'd you think of last night?
I mean, todd, you weren't there, so did you catch any of the
near stream last night?

Speaker 3 (20:26):
No.
So I was going to.
So we're at this graduationparty, which is right near the
high school, and there'sliterally no signal there.
So I thought I had like a goodsignal, but their Wi-Fi even
sucked and there was like like athousand kids there and they
were all on their wifi and likeso I was like all right, but I I

(20:51):
had a good signal and then Itried to get on and it just like
it wouldn't log me in.
It was like even though I hadlike three bars, I was like
sweet, nope, yeah.
So I was like fuck.
And then I was like Zach wasrunning around.
Yeah, you probably would havelost signal pretty fast.
Yeah, I did meet a Diane and Imet a couple that used to live
across the street from him, thatlived in England.

(21:11):
So we were able to go back tomy old times and talk about some
of the shows and shit that weused to watch.
I'm like remember Grange Hill?
He goes, oh yeah, man, that waseveryone.
I'm like, yeah, diane issitting there.
And his oh yeah, man, that wasfor everyone.
I'm like, yeah, he was sittingthere, and his wife's from
England too.
So she was like, oh, you guysare just reminiscing on your
English days.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
How about you, Paul?
What did you think of lastnight?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
I thought it was interesting.
Yeah, I mean, I thought it wasa good time.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, I don't know what happened.
Well, we were reminisced for alittle bit.
I don't know how we got downthe trails of us being so
freaking old, talking about inliving color, and you know all
of how the TV you know shuts offpromptly at 11 o'clock every
night.
So we all know we had to go tobed, kind of thing, and it was
just really weird.
It was a sidebar there.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
It kind of my head for some reason.
Well, we'll go to a graduationhigh school graduation party and
you'll feel real fucking old.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
We aren't getting any younger, no no well, unless
you've got the formula andyou're just not sharing it with
the rest of us.
But yeah, oh man, yeah, I don'tknow like it is.
It's kind of freaking scarybecause here Okay.
So let me put this in context.
My daughter got me a new coffeemaker for a new Keurig for

(22:34):
Father's Day, and I like the oldone.
You know how it is, you getused to it, you get warmed up,
it has its quirks.
I was like it did its thing.
It might have not been greatfor the rest of the family, but
I knew how to treat it to getwhat I want out of it.
So she bought me a new one,even though I told her I didn't
need anything for Father's Day.
And, of course, the first thingI do get down in front of it.
I think I literally had thede-evolution of my life fall

(22:56):
apart right there in front of me, because I was like how do you
turn this thing on?
And I felt like really badafter five minutes that I
couldn't figure out how to turna damn.
You know Keurig.
I mean it's like just buttons,I mean there's nothing more to
it.
You press one button to turn iton and so I'm like I'm sitting
there.
My wife must've been laughingat me because I hear snickering
in the background.
I was like she's like youhaving trouble with that coffee
maker.
I was like shit I can't solve.

(23:18):
You know simple things likecoffee makers.
I mean, it's really starting toshow because apparently, you
know, audio on my computer isnot doing well either.
But yeah, well, yes, he growlsbelow here.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
He's like yeah my son got me a new coffee maker for,
uh, christmas, and so I did thethe good fatherly thing and I
put the the new coffee pot inthe kitchen, but I kept the old
one yeah, the old ones here inthe rv with me, and I fucking
love it I wish I could, becauseshe threw it in the old box and

(24:04):
then stuck it in the back of mytruck and then when I went to
the dump, I thought it was theempty box and I was just kind of
shuffling stuff in the fast.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
And then I had asked her two days.
I'm like, hey, where'd the oldcoffee maker go?
She's like, oh, I put it in thebox.
I'm like, oh fuck, I threw itaway myself.
So I can't Like, oh man, thisis crazy.
But yeah, all that being said,when we were reminiscing about
that stuff, what did I do thefirst thing this morning?
Instead of editing videos, Iwent up on YouTube and watched

(24:29):
every freaking in living colorthat I could possibly find on
YouTube.
I'm like, man, I am not doinggood at all, trying to like stay
on target to get shit done,feel bad, but it was awesome.
It was awesome, man.
But you know, hey, it's what itis.
We get old, like you said.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Well, I crack every time I sit up.
If I'm sitting on the couch andI get up, I literally crack.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Well, didn't you say your spine's compressed, or
something like that?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
No, I got arthritis in my spine, ankylitis
spinalitis yeah, okay, yeah, I.
No, I got arthritis in my spine.
Yeah, ankle lotus on the lightyeah, okay, yeah, that I mean
that's, that's a good thingbased on the cracking, because
the cracking really sucks.
Like you, I literally crack,like I get up, you can hear it
like my bones like a knee jointkind of crack I don't know what

(25:23):
it is, but it feels like I thinkit's just my whole body just
gets stiff.
And then I get up and he's likeand like, even like Diane's,
like Jesus.
I'm like, yeah, fucking, Idon't know, I've been First of
all can.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah Right, vaseline or something man.
Vaseline or something man.
Well, that's why Baby oil.
I know someone who has a ton ofit somewhere.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, what's his name ?
No, the, he'll sell it cheap toyou.
Well, that's why my doctor hasme taking like this high end
fish oil because it's supposedto lube my.
I'm like I'm going to ask him,like, should I double up on this
shit Because it ain't working?
It's not getting to the rightspot If I didn't take it, I'd be

(26:04):
like you guys would see me, I'dbe like this Like what's going
on?
Like, yeah, not working.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
STJ the Tin man.
Yeah, oh man.
Well, there's one other thing,oh, how were the bands for you,
Paul, when you guys were active?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
I meant to ask that.
Well, uh, it was weird, right I?
I fully expected the bands tobe good garbage.
Oh good, well, okay all right sowell, before I left right.
So, um, I I left about I don'tknow 10 minutes and nine, um, I,

(26:43):
you know, I I had the ham clockup and I was like, oh, let me
take a look and see what thespots are and what the
conditions are.
And, dude, k-index 1.3,disturbance was only one.
The sunspot number was, I think, 80, which I mean it's not

(27:03):
great but it's not bad.
Um, you know, um, solar windswere were relatively low.
So I I anticipated that thebands were going to be good.
There was so much fading.
Oh, like, uh, so we started on40, um, got seven contacts on 40
.
And then, uh, we went on 40.
Got seven contacts on 40.

(27:25):
And then we went to 15.
We're like we'll just try it,right?
Nope, fucking nothing.
Well, all right, let's check 10.
Now, 10 was fucking dead.
Wow, like not even FTA.
You couldn't hear even FTA on10 or 15.
Now is he dead, or just dead?
Like no sound audio, not evenFT8.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
You couldn't hear even FT8 on 10 or 15.
Is he dead or just dead?
Like no sound audio.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
No, just no sound at all Like radio blackout, yeah.
So we were like, well, we'lljust stick with 20.
And yeah, it was like fuckingstations would be there and it'd
be like, oh all right, yeah,good, clear signal, five, five,
no problem.
And then, okay, standby forsecond up.

(28:11):
And then they're like gone,yeah, gone.
And so you know like Sean wouldbe calling and he'd be like
dude, did you, did you get mysignal report?
And then all of a sudden they'dbe back again and they'd be
like yeah, yeah, like the 20second delay goes to the black

(28:32):
hole yeah, no, it was just weird, like I mean, it was just what
date was this yeah, today.
Today it was just just qsb, likejust up and down my.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
So I went down friday to the cape and I forgot to
mention the whole.
Like I guess every two, every32 years in the cape they get a
huge rash of cicadas and you godown there and it's fucking
eerie, like if you've ever heardcicadas like down in the you
know bayou, in the kind of arealike.
It's just like that loud noise,it sounds like a alarm, but
it's not a car alarm or a housealarm going off.

(29:06):
It's just like like so I pulledinto my parents' driveway and
I'm just like that's an annoying, freaking car alarm.
And then I kind of sat thereand I'm like that's not a car
alarm.
And then the big freaking thingthat looks like the size of a
flies by my face.
I'm like, oh shit, those arethe cicadas.
I'm like.
I'm like so, like I spent likeall day there and I'm like this
is annoying, I can't stand thissound.

(29:28):
I'm like, why does this happen?
He's just like, oh yeah, thishappens every 32 years
apparently.
I'm like, well, okay, good, atleast that's only gonna happen
maybe one more time in mylifetime.
But yeah, I don't know, it wasso bizarre.
But the bands like so, oh man,I really wish, like when I know
we went with walt.
It was like overcast and drearyand like you couldn't see any,

(29:49):
you know, more than like 100yards out from where you were.
But we were literally out there, um, on top of the platform at
marconi, and it was freakingphenomenal like that you could
see for miles down the coast.
You know the.
The only problem was is thewinds were a little high like
because it was predicted, youknow, 40 mile an hour gusts, but
Chris had bought the the 33H.

(30:14):
Yeah the 33H.
Yeah right, and yeah, thatthing, man that didn't even bend
like even an inch.
I was like, oh it's sobeautiful, but yeah, it was fun.
70 was a 70.
40 was really really quiet butreally packed with a lot of
contact.
So we just called CQ after kindof hunting.

(30:36):
A little bit Cool, that's cool.
Brings me to my other point, mrTodd there.
Do we ever want to putsomething on the radar Like are
we ever going to finish our kilothere?
Yeah, after baseball, when doesthat mean?

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I have this week, we have districts, and then I have
until I'll have a couple weeksthat we could do it, and then I
got one more tournament, likethe weekend of July 20th, and
then I'm done and the seasonends in October.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
No, and.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Zach's not doing fall ball.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
He's doing basketball or something else.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Well, yeah but I don't have to do that.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Tell them to take up chess, it might be a little
easier.
Yeah, you can play radio at thesame time.
Right, oh man, yeah.
Right oh man, yeah.
I know I it was, uh, and as Iwas telling all the guys on, uh,
northeast uh, last night um Igave uh.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
I I know you gave your antenna away sorry, gotten
away.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yes, I gave it away to.
You know, hopefully, loser.
I gave it away with the purposebecause I know chris had one,
so I was like he knows how touse it well, and he's used it
before, but once he got hisN-FED he's never gone back to
his vertical whatsoever.
At least Parker would get achance to play around with it.

(31:54):
It was my backup, to my backup,to my backup antenna.
So if everything else got wipedoff the map and that was the
only thing left in the truck,then yeah, that would be the
antenna I'd use, but it'd be.
You know, I have so many more,but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Well, let's start this.
I'm going to program whilewe're doing this, I'm going to
work on programming my new radio.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Oh, wait a minute, I thought you already put that in
the car.
You haven't put it in yet.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
No, okay, he just took it out of the wrap.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I just took it out of the wrap.
You just did, wow, okay, sothis is an unboxing without,
like you know, actually Ialready had seeing the unboxing.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Well, you, call it whatever you want.
I was gonna put I, so I putthat, I put that panel on the
side and then I was gonna put Ihave to take it off and then put
the antenna on and then run theantenna and it's just like
today.
It was too fucking hot, like Ihave sun on my driveway, like
there's no time there's shade.

(32:52):
So I was like I'm not sittingout here playing around with
bolts and I had to fix Zach'sdirt bike because I couldn't
figure out.
So I got that fixed and, um, soyeah, so I just plugged it into
where my.
I just swapped it out with the300, and I'll play around with
it, but the AC doesn't have aprogrammer for it, so I got to

(33:14):
buy you have to put it on a PC,which I might just throw it on
my old one.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Oh no, they don't have a Mac programmer.
I think RT Systems does.
Yeah it's $25.
Well, you don't need the cable.
It should be less than that.
It's still $25.
Cable, it's like $40.
Okay, so here I have the 3DR RTSystems.
I have the FT65 RT Systems, Ido.
I have the 300.
So what's $25 more for the 510?

(33:40):
You have the 400, which youshould have sold to 510.
You have the 400, which youshould have sold to.
You should actually hit up HamRadio, punk Rock, ham Radio and
sell them your RT systemlicenses.
You can.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
You can.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, sell them.
You can transfer the licensesto somebody else.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
I saw something on the thing they said oh, if you
have a Mac, you can call themand pay some extra money and
have them switch over.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, you can swap your licenses.
But if you have a Windowslicense for that 400 and you
want to sell it with the radio,you can actually email them and
say, hey, I sold this with theradio.
Can you transfer the license tothe radio?

Speaker 3 (34:16):
So if I have my 300, can I call RT Systems and say I
want to take it off the PC andadd it to the Mac because I
don't have a PC anymore?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
You might ask.
I ended up when I I'd be likeoh, it'll cost you $25.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Probably, but if I'm buying a new one maybe, though,
that's a good idea I might dothat.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, I mean, but the other time it's like it's okay.
Look at it from this way haveyou gone to the RT system
software to program your radio?
Once you programmed your radioLike never, right.
So why not just fire up yourWindows machine and program your
300 the way?
Well, you're going to throwyour.
Your 300 is already programmedthe way you want it, right?

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, but I might want to make I sometimes do
changes to it.
Okay, well, you know, you havethe Windows, I still have the PC
.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, I have to just plug it and get it all set up
for the.
So just get, get yourself aone-time copy of the 510
software for the mac side.
Yeah, yeah, and just remember,you have it on the mac, not the
windows side yeah but you mightbe able to transfer the other
licenses over to mac, who knows?
Never done it before.
I was just stupid and tooimpatient and bought two
separate licenses when I had thecash.
Yeah, Now probably I wouldthink twice.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
I mean honestly.
Today it's like 25 bucks islike a lunch and a coffee at the
gas station.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah right, I was going to say wait a minute.
I don't know about other places, even Dunkin' Donuts is crazy
busy, you know expensive.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Oh my God, Like I bought this unlimited drink.
It's like I forget what it is.
It's free for like three months, because I went to panera to
get a drink and now you can gothere and get like coffees or
whatever you want for free.
Like you just go in there,order it and they, you just get
the cup and but I don't go therethat often.
So I just I was like, oh fuck,if you're gonna give it to me
for for free for three months,I'll go out of my way and get a

(36:07):
iced tea or a coffee during theday.
But yeah, it's like a coffee,it's just like regular coffee is
like four bucks, yeah.
Four freaking dollars for acoffee.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Everything's more freaking expensive.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
That's why I make my own, true, well, that's fair.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
So that's why I make my own, true, well, that's so.
I'm a donkeys guy, you know,sadly it's just kind of.
You know the staple that Idrink from.
So like I go to like Costco orBJ's and buy, like the box, 72k
cups, which you know usually getthem on sale every once in a
while, but like that's prettymuch my kind of thing.
Like I don't think I've everlike, even when we go to Prest
on Wednesdays, I bring my owncoffee.
I used to feel bad, but then Iwas like, no, I don't, I'm going

(36:47):
to drink it anyway.
So, yeah, all good.
Oh, I forgot, I didn't forwardthe email to you guys, but Bob
Coff emailed me and obviously Itold you guys that he wants to
come out.
Right, he's coming out for the24-hour podo.
Yeah, okay, so he's actuallycoming out earlier in the week

(37:07):
because he was like, oh, I'venever been around New England at
all and so I want to just comeout a couple days early and hang
out and do whatever.
And I'm like, well, dude, I'msure any one of us will all be
like, hey, let's just go out andhang out, grab a beer, you know
, do POTO, whatever you want todo, you know, show you some of
the, you know, the new Englandsites.
And then he's like, yeah,thursday or Friday I'll, you

(37:28):
know, hitch a ride with you guysor Uber over to the park and
you know we'll uh party for theweekend and then I'll fly home
on, like you know, sundayafternoon or something like that
.
So yeah.
So he'll be down.
He's like, dude, I got a bunchof questions and I don't want to

(37:48):
bother you too much with email.
And I'm like dude, why wouldyou bother me with email?
I'll call you.
So he gave me his phone number.
So I'm just like call me.
So I called him and weliterally were watching Hamreo
Clubhouse Actually I think itwas when Matt was on Reliance
and I called him right in themiddle of it and he's just like,
oh yeah, hey, we can talk.
Right now I'm just watching Mattfrom Reliance and Ten on Ham

(38:11):
Rio Clubhouse.
I'm like, oh, dude, I totallyforgot about that.
So we're busy talking on thephone, talking about Ham Rio
Clubhouse and all that stuff,and then he's just asking a
whole bunch of questions.
He's like I don't want to, youknow, intrude.
You know, do you guys have anyproblems?
You know me coming out there.
I'm like, no, like you know,todd and I got space in the
camper.
He's like, oh no, you guys rentin a camper, then you know,
I'll throw in for that.

(38:32):
You know, don't worry, I'm like, dude, I'm not gonna argue with
that.
If you want to split it threeways, sure no problem.
So yeah, he's a, he seems likea retired.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Uh cool guy that you know how much does the camper
cost?

Speaker 1 (38:44):
I don't know.
I've been looking.
I haven't looked around toomuch for them.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
We're going to get that locked in for are they
going to deliver it to us or arewe going to pick it up?

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I'll pick it up.
Not a big deal, but I come tofind out he hasn't gotten his
license yet.
He's not licensed.
Yeah, he's not licensed.
He's working on it.
He's not even a tech, yeah, noteven a tech.
I was like blown away.
That's why I couldn't find hiscall sign.
Like I kept looking for hiscall sign.
So he was just like, he wastotally like you know, hey, I

(39:13):
stumbled upon you guys.
You know, you guys have beentodd, you've been inspirational.
I have been motivated to, uh,you know obviously get his
technician license.
So yeah you know, and he justloves listening to us.
So you know, God bless you, Bob.
Sometimes, especially thisepisode, it's going to be one of
those episodes.
But hey it'll be like justhanging out.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Well, when he's ready , we can do an online testing
session for him.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, maybe we can time it at the same time.
We do it with him and Parker.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Well, if I get my extra, we could do testing with
Bob Koff.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Just get him towards the general Poor guy.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Just get him technician general, get him
forever.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
He'll be the fourth.
You know, live free and or andor, no, sorry, just be and ham
guy, because he's not in thelive free state.
Yeah, oh man, yeah, hey, whynot?
Yeah, we'll expand our horizons, although, uh, you know, we'll
see where that one goes.
I don't know, oh, I don't knowwhat else you guys going on with

(40:23):
, you guys.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Nothing, Just fucking baseball.
I'm so done with baseball.
I really am.
Well, it's good to hear I don'tlike this team.
I heard that last year too.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
What we heard, that Thank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
This is the time of year, so done with baseball.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Go do it next year.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I didn't say that, uh , you said you didn't want to
coach, you didn't want a headcoach, and then you know, is it?
It evolved into something youknow, sort of like that
everyone's the head coacheveryone everyone's, everyone's
a coach in baseball, in, uh,youth baseball, even the ones in
the stands, yeah, nothing'sworking.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
These kids are so unmotivated, I'm like, and then
they were of coaching in youthbaseball, even the ones in the
stands yeah, nothing's working.
These kids are so unmotivated,and then they were joking around
.
They're like we have a gametomorrow at 8.
That's when the basketballplayoffs are and I'm like, do
you even want to be here?
I was so pissed.
And they're like they're twotwins and their little brother's
the bat boy.
He's more into it than they are.
He fetches all the balls, hegets all their bats, he keeps

(41:27):
the.
I give him the clicker and hekeeps the.
Uh, the score for yeah, nice, Igo, I go, I go.
What's the?
What's the count?
Three, two, coach, how manyouts?
One like that?
Nice, he's a got a bunch of12-olds or a bunch of punks.
I want to watch the playoffs.
Good, don't come, then you suckanyway.

(41:48):
I don't want to put you in thelineup.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Well.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Paul already knows this.
I got to meet the guy who wonone of HR2O's radios that he was
giving away.
Oh, you did yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
He lives down in the Cape.
Apparently I got to meet him atNierfest.
Oh you did, yeah, well, I toldyou Like I mean dude and his kid
.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Not Chris, no, chris is different.
Oh, okay, jimmy, kate, damn it.
It's Kilo Charlie.
1 Quebec Kilo X-Ray, I thinkthat's what it's called.
Jimmy, one quebec kilo x-ray, Ithink that's what his call sign.
And jimmy, if I screwed that up, sorry, I you know it's one of
those too many k's and throws mymind in a loop.
But yeah, no, he's a technicianand he he lives down in taro

(42:35):
and you know he ended up.
You know I guess he listens tohr20 a lot for a lot of you know
his ham radio stuff and kind ofinspired him to be him to get
his technician license and stuff.
He's a Marine.
I think We'll have to get him onsometime and have him chit-chat
and tell us a little bit of astory.
He was telling me on therepeater down there, the 955

(42:57):
machine, which every time I godown there and use that machine
I got silenced, nobody responded.
But it just happened to beweird that I put a couple of
calls out when I was down thereand all of a sudden him you know
he came back, another guy, acouple, I mean everyone was like
super friendly all of a sudden.
So I don't know, maybe you knowthey were mostly all
technicians, or at least thosehams that you know weren't so

(43:18):
territorial.
But all that being said, yeah,he, yeah, he started to tell me
a story.
He's like, oh, I want a radio onsome YouTube channel.
I'm like, okay, well, thatcan't be many other YouTube
channels.
I didn't think Josh was givinganything away and I didn't know
HR2O was giving stuff away.
And long story short, yeah, hewon the 710 from HR2O, really

(43:39):
Nice.
Yeah, I mean this is old hatfor Paul.
I mean this is old hat for Paul.
I mean you can see how he'salready heard this story.
But yeah, no, it's always kindof cool, good guy, very
talkative, but anyway, you knowit's funny with near right like

(44:01):
I'm always hesitant to like,just take charge and like kind
of run things unless, unlessit's been pre-established ahead
of time, that, like I'm, I'm incharge, you know that's all it
has to take is I'm going to haveto just delegate that you're in
charge, cause I know, mike andI pick it up from time to time,
but, dude, I'm, I don't, I don'twant to have.

(44:22):
I've run a couple youdefinitely have my apologies.
Yes, definitely, but yeah, youknow, feel free, step in, dude.
I just tend to put my foot inmy mouth a lot, so I don't know
if people like that or whatever,I mean they've loved it on this
show, so I guess it doesn'tmatter, anywhere I go.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
I just think things and they come out my mouth.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
So but they're a lot more clear and refined than the
shit that comes out of mind,sometimes marbles in my mouth.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
That's all a third base, oh yeah, no, it comes out
clear, it's just offensive.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Thanks Got it.
Well, you know I have greatrole models because you just
allow me to like take all the.
You know I have great rolemodels because you just allow me
to like take all the.
You know all of the defensemechanisms off, so it just
becomes like whatever Brainmouth engage, I'm good, but All
right, we're going to start thisbecause we have, oh, we have.

(45:19):
Yeah, we've been talking.
Well, we didn't do any intro wedidn't love you, man.
What?

Speaker 3 (45:25):
is that.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Because I said I just you know, I said whatever I
said, okay.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
There's no intro or anything.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Wow, you've become so attached to that, haven't you?
Oh my God.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Welcome to tonight's episode where we just talk a
bunch of bullshit and thanks forjoining us.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
For one hour and 20 minutes we've been at it.
This is the night that you'llnever refer.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
This will be one of those episodes that paul and I
were talking about.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
It's gonna be on, oh yeah I have no idea what to
expect.
When I hear that that'll be 40at 40 minutes of new stuff that
I material, that I'll be like,oh my gosh, where'd they go with
that one?
Oh, there's a that one.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
There's a lot of silences in there.
You left, yeah dude.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
I think those are the most funniest parts, because we
had a couple of times wherewe've had like some silences
while we were doing stuff andit's like it's really silences.
You know, like did the songstop, like did we end here?
I'm like, you know, kind of,and then it picks back up right
when you get to that point oflike I've got to take an action
and do something.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
But yeah, well, I got , I got to get my radio in the
car because yeah, dude, you'vebeen missing.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah, I know, if anything, I thought you would
have just done like the lazy manstuff and brought your BioAno
battery, plugged it into theradio and then stuck the antenna
just on top of the roof, justso you could get your radio fix.
No, no, I'll be all right.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
I mean I'm doing it right this time.
We're not going to jimmy-rig it.
I mean, when I took the thingout I forgot how I had four
wires that were just freakingelectrical tape together.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
I'm like yeah, well, that that we didn't have many of
the things that we needed.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
I think at the time when we put it in and we just
wanted to get it in.
So, yeah, no, no, but it's good, hopefully, hopefully, uh, this
week I'll get the antenna wiredinto the, into where the radio
is going, right, and then isgoing right, and then uh, and
then I can do that.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
I got my 67 design, so that's good.
Well, dude, do hold the head up.
You got the head in front ofyou.
I'm curious to see how big itis next to your head.
Not that I'm measuring yourhead to the radio, but it is a
big head radio.
It's not, though.
It's not okay, all right, yeahhere.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
I just fucking plugged this one in.
I don't know if I can Hold onMaking me unplug everything.
What is it?
One wire.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
No the antenna.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
I just put the 300 back in, oh, you don't have to
power it on it, just you know.
Oh, no, but the 300 isconnected, I can't lift it up.
It's not enough wire.
300's connected.
I can't lift it up becausethere's not enough wire.
Hold on, alright.
Everything's an issue.
Alright, yes, it is.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
That's the 300.
Oh yeah, Holy crap.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
That is way bigger than 300.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Yeah it is yeah, face-wise it is.
Huh, face-wise it is, Huh,face-wise it is.
That's a bigger display, forsure.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Oh, it's a bigger display, but it's not that much
bigger.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Okay, maybe I don't know, it still looks a little
bit bigger.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
I mean, it's definitely bigger, but it's not
that much bigger.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
So I forgot to tell you guys a story and on near and
I just triggered my head Istupidly, when I was making
modifications to my truck to getthe uh, my um stuff mounted to
the back of the truck likeramming its infinite wisdom,
made the hooks on the back ofthe seat too long.
So the only way to likeactually get the seats to fold
down in my model year is to trimthe seats, you know hooks,

(49:03):
shorter, so like they just comeup and they fall over.
So got all that done and in allthat process I was careful
enough to make sure I didn'tsquish my coax cables to my
radios.
But when I was like, oh great,it's all done, you know you kind
of get to that relief point,like you're all done, and then
you start to screw down thebolts.
Well, apparently I wasn'tpaying attention and my cable or

(49:24):
my vhf, uhf radio was had slidback under the seat uh bracket
and then I drove the bolt downwith my air tool to basically
snug the bolts down and put sometorque on it because of the
seat bolts and I squished theantenna cable and basically
squashed the jacket andbasically slashed it.
So I was like I got to go get acable and so I went to.

(49:49):
I'm like I don't know I'm goingto go to HRO because, one, I
haven't been there in a whileand two, I know they told me
that my FT1F credit was there,but it was being applied to a
radio that I never bought.
So I was going to go argue withthem over that credit.
So I showed up there and Ishowed them the cable, because I

(50:09):
took it out of the truck andthey were like oh yeah, yeah, no
problem, we have this cable.
So I got another replacementcable.
Then I'm like I've got a $35credit somewhere in the account
and I don't have the 1F, butsomehow you guys credited it as
me as receiving the radio andthen you know applying my $35
credit and they're like oh yeah,it looks like we changed it
around.
You know, we'll give you the$35 credit, you just apply it to

(50:32):
the cable, no problem.
So I was like, okay, cool, gotthe cable pretty much, you know,
off the credit, didn't have topay a dime.
And I'm like, okay, he's like,yeah, come on over.
And he starts to like, go intolike all the sales spiel and I
was like I felt bad because likeI was bashing it hard because I
was like this thing on and onand on, like I was like it

(50:53):
doesn't do this, but it's like,oh yeah, I know people really
like the speaker and I'm like Idon't care about the speaker, I
don't want to be 20 yards awayand still be able to hear it.
That's not my problem, theyjust missed the mark.
And then, of course, a coupleother hams came in and there was
one guy from our club and Ican't remember his name or his
call sign at the moment.
I'm kicking myself for it.
But him and I started into theconversation and we were both
bashing it and the poor salesguy was sitting over there.

(51:16):
He just kind of withered becauseit was like at that, prove to
us that the 1F was any moreworth our money to buy it.
It's like if they only tookmore time.
And he's like, yeah, yeah, ifthey only took more time.
So literally I think we hadthree people in the store all
basically like, yeah, they justtotally missed the mark, this is
just a piece of hot garbage andleft it at that.

(51:36):
And so the poor guy was likethey're selling hotcakes, we
can't keep the optimals on theshelves.
I'm like, okay, sure, I'm sureyou're gonna get all of them
back yeah, well, that's just it.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
They're selling like hotcakes because every every one
of those types of person righthas to have the latest and
greatest as soon as it comes outright.
And then there's there's gonnabe a shit ton of faulty, fucking
used radios out on the market.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Yeah, oh yeah, I totally forgot about all the
firmware issues that they had.
Yeah, yeah, it was weirdbecause, like everybody, like I
took it off the stand and I heldit and I'm like it's not super
heavy.
I mean, obviously the batteryis not attached to it, so the
battery would add to weight.
But then the 705, they hadbolted to the stand and the big

(52:26):
piece of plastic you know sayingthis is a 705.
I picked that up and I almostlike went like this, because it
was like way lighter and I'mlike, okay, this is definitely
heavier for sure, but at thesame time it like it didn't feel
like it was that much, you know, like anything more than like
the weight of a 300 or whatever,and I was just like you know it
.
Just it made me very sad, man,very, very sad.

(52:46):
Team ICOM for the win.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah, true, True, true.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
I mean not to say, not to say that ICOM didn't have
their problems with the 705.
They fell short on a few things, but you know they also did a
fuck ton more better things tothat thing to make it better
radio.
So maybe one day, Maybe one day, Yezu will you know, come
around, but I don't know, Idon't think so.

(53:12):
Yeah, no 1F conversationanymore.
Damn it, why don't you guysblock me from this shit?
But I don't know.
I've actually meant to say lastnight when we talked about
field day stuff, do you feellike we're a different chapter
with field days this year?

Speaker 3 (53:31):
when is field?
Is field day this weekendcoming up?

Speaker 1 (53:35):
yeah, yep, funny isn't that?

Speaker 3 (53:37):
it's like you don't even remember that it's coming
up I knew, I knew it, I knew itwas coming up, I just didn't
know when.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
What makes you say yeah to that Curious?

Speaker 2 (53:48):
I'll be honest, that's how I am.
I was going to say no different.
People aren't going to like it.
Probably Fuck the Steves.
Quite literally, they can bothjust fuck right right off.

(54:08):
Fuck them both, okay, um, youknow, uh, I can tell that mark
is trying to to do his best.
Sure, right, the level oforganization and the level of
preparedness isn't there.
And so, like for me, if there'san event like Field Day that I

(54:36):
absolutely love, but it'shaphazardly fucking thrown
together and I don't know whatis what, and you know know
whether or not I could fuckinghave a camper or not, and like
there's no real goodcommunication, I, I'm just I'm
fucking done with it.
I'm just kind of over it.
It's like you know what, likewell, can you have a, I wish, or

(54:58):
not?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
oh, you can.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
You just have to clear with mike which I mean,
probably would have been fineand I I could have reached out
to mike on my own, but, um, Idon't know the.
The point of what I'm gettingat, I guess, is just that, like
I love field day and I have alot of fun and I've very much
enjoyed having a station andrunning a station and putting

(55:23):
people on the air and and doingall of the cool field day things
right um, I just I don't know,like I I feel like I feel like
our club is is kind of going intwo different directions at the
same time yeah and, and I don'treally like either direction,

(55:43):
and so which way?

Speaker 3 (55:46):
what are the two directions?

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Well, you get the, the old fuckers that don't want
to change anything ever, rightand and they're just going to
dig their heels in and andoppose every fucking change that
, no matter how positive it isfor the club.
And then you've got people withall these grand ideas of all
these things that they want todo, but there's no motivation to

(56:11):
actually do anything sure 80,20, and so it's like, well, all
right, I mean, but if there'snot people driving the fucking
bus, you're going to lose allyour passengers.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Well, so let me I I wholeheartedly agree with a lot
of your points.
Um, this will we'll say theSteve's that we call Steve
squared.
We have always known them to dotheir own thing.
They never, ever.
They always were always on theoutskirts of our field days as a
club.
In general, since I took itover five years ago with our

(56:48):
club, and I always learned thatthey were never going, they
would always stay just enough onthe out edge that they didn't
feel like they had commit, butthey were still able to keep
their space reserved forwhatever they wanted, and that's
fine.
That's how our club has done it.
Before I even came on the sceneand I don't know why or how that
ever transpired or why it eventranspired, but it definitely is

(57:11):
obvious to a lot of folks thatit's a separate thing.
Like you know, hey, we've got aVIP section or VIP lounge that
only those VIPs can stay in andeverybody else has to stay in
the general relative area.
And for those that arelistening that have no idea what
we're talking about, I'm sureyou probably all have your own
field day issues.
But the other side of the coinis I agree with you.

(57:35):
I mean, there is definitely nota lot of greater communication.
It's all kind of everywhere andanywhere, and I know that's
probably due to where Mark is at.
He's had some other stuff inhis life that's been overtaking
what he could probably do tostep up into it.
I could step in, but I don'twant to because I know he, if
he's going to do next year, he'sgot to learn all of his

(57:58):
mistakes this year and know whathe didn't know to do or how to
do, and this year and know whathe didn't know to do or how to
do, and not that he doesn't haveall the keys to the kingdom in
front of him, he does, because Igave him literally a you know,
a roadmap of all the field daytemplates that we use year over
year that I just developed.
But you know, hey, I have tolearn because I'm a type a
asshole and I'm going to be likeyou know if I, if I see

(58:19):
something going wrong, I sobadly want to stop and jump in
and fix it and do it.
But it's not going to be funfor everybody else because I'm
just fucking things up, becauseit's not what they thought or
envisioned.
So that's kind of why I'vestepped away and I feel the same
way.
It's not like what we used todo as field days.
We used to be fun, we used tohave them do our Friday nights,
we used to have the nets onFriday nights, and not to say

(58:41):
that won't happen, but it's notgoing to look like the way we
know it and you know, maybe nextyear it might, you know, and
maybe next year it might not,because you know, I don't know
where we're going to go with itand who's going to step up.
If Mark's going to continue itand hopefully he will, you know
that's the biggest problem isfinding someone that will stay
in it, or four years, because ittakes three or four years to be

(59:01):
able to get a rhythm down andmake it whatever you want it to
be.
But, uh, I'm sure, yeah, and II cry at night kind of things
like the whole educationpavilion.
I think that's gonna, you know,fall a little bit flat on its
face this year because, you know, there's just not a lot of
people in the club stepping upto want to do that thing, and I
think that's a big, freakingthing for our club to be able to
get involved in.
But nobody's gonna, you know,be as committed, but that you

(59:23):
know.
Hey, that's neither here northere.
And again, uh, you know, yeah,it's not going to be like how we
liked it or how we know it tobe.
But can I ask?

Speaker 3 (59:31):
you why?
Why do we allow the steves todo their own thing?
I always thought it was justridiculous, don't know and that,
and that we should just saylisten, this is where we're
doing it.
If.
If you don't want to be here,then go someplace else.
He's.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Mr Aries, come on now .
He's a very important person.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
So is this camper.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
You've got to respect the fact that he's just a very
important person.
It's like Fred yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
I mean he's.
I mean what gets me about themis like they're very like,
almost like an entitlement.
And then the rest of the clubis over there, like we're the
like he's in first class,they're in first class and the
entitlement and we're like incoach right, like in the back of
the plane.
Um, and I'll be honest with you, like the Aries nets that they

(01:00:23):
were doing when they firststarted doing them sucked and
all he did was want to bitchabout Tom and that the repeater
sucked and I was like, dude, wedo this net every freaking night
and have no problems.
You're the emergency expertsand you suck at your job, like
you don't even know how to talkon a repeater and it was just
all.
There's something wrong withour repeater, and it wasn't.

(01:00:45):
It was they didn't either havethe tone on or they didn't have
their volume.
I'm like, if this is what ariesis all about, I'm definitely
never getting into aries becauseit was a complete disaster.
But then he goes around likehe's like entitled to have his
own camper and do his own thingsand we have to go around what
he wants to do and as a club onfield day, it shouldn't be

(01:01:07):
individualized.
It should be like this is whatwe're doing.
These are the station captains.
This is who's operating what,and that's the end of it.
And if you don't like it, don'tcome.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Well, and to say that he didn't do that under my
watch would not be 100 true,because I never gave.
I never gave him more than aninch if he, like I, always
looked at steve as one thing forme.
He needed to be the one tocatch the bonus stuff that we
needed and that nobody else inthe club wanted to do so, like
the, the, the section ariesmessages that you know they trap

(01:01:41):
because that's an aries thing.
So he should be able to do thatpart very well without my help,
you know, or?

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
catch the ARL message .
Why not do it with the rest ofus and not behind the barn in
the corner of the house where noone sees you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Well, let me ask the question Do you want him hanging
around?

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Well, I don't know, I don't know him that well,
because he's always isolating.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Yeah, I agree.
My other side of the coin islike most of those guys that are
over there they don't bother meand they're not bothering us,
but I knew we were going to getto a certain point that they
just can't be with us becauseour club is getting too big, and
so not that that's a bad thing,but we're getting bigger and
therefore Not that that's a badthing.
But we're getting bigger andtherefore people are going to
start asking more questionsabout why are those people that

(01:02:25):
have malaria over in the corner?
Shouldn't they be moreintertwined and involved in the
process?

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Did anyone ever ask them why they don't want to be
with the rest of the club?

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
No, he's just a pompous douche Like look at,
okay, the 4-H was a perfectexample.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Does he watch this podcast?

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
I don't give a fuck.
If he does probably not I'lltell him to his face like no
fucking problems, uh, but no, so, like, uh, so all of the rest
of us that that were actuallyfucking working hard on setting
up the 4-H stuff right, and poorfucking Ira, like I mean, what

(01:03:05):
is he fucking?
90?
90,?
Yes, the guy you know, yep, butlike him and his elderly wife,
they're fucking setting up theget-on-the-air station and
they're putting their antenna upand everything else.
And then Steve comes in andjust fucking parks his camper
right on top of their fuckingantenna and makes them move

(01:03:25):
their antenna after they hadjust got it up.
It's like no, you fucking dumb,fuck Back your fucking trailer
up and get out of their fuckingway.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
You're right, dude, 100%.
He's definitely privileged.
He feels like he's privileged,for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
I'll be honest.
I mean, since I've been amember, I've never.
I always thought it was weirdand it's not like my flying club
.
We would never do that.
We wouldn't have like, wewouldn't have like a, we
wouldn't have like our float flyand we don't have a special
group of people like in the vipsection.
That that it's all bythemselves, like everyone is

(01:04:05):
like, it's just come in, peopleset up their campers and we just
make a row of them and then wehave the fire pit and the tents
and the food and it's like allthere well, let me say this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
So since you guys came on, meaning you taught you
uh r and Ralph and Tim, beforethat it was myself and our
previous president and he verymuch kind of played that like
well, let's just let Steve dohis thing.
And so that was kind of how youfollowed it.

(01:04:40):
I didn't feel like I had enoughauthority as a leader in the
group to say like why are wedealing with this bullshit?
Because it was like, oh, he'sjust Steve, let's Steve do Steve
.
And it's like, why Like, like?
And so that don't cause anywaves.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Yeah, so the way that I was, no one wants to start.
This is what happened with theclub If you look at the history,
when they freaking split upbecause there's a group of them
that were doing one thing andthey weren't interacting with
the other and they all freakingleft and stole repeaters or
whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Well.
I mean, but not to answerTodd's point is that the other
side of the club that's alldoing the cool stuff, that's
getting better.
I think now that we're pushingthat forward we'll be in a
better place.
So we'll be able to address theSteves.
Because Ralph knows about theSteves.
They can know all the crap thathe delivers.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
I mean, if you want me, I'll be the guy next year to
be like listen, the fuckingSteves are fucking in the
fucking pen or they're not.
They're not coming here anddoing their own thing, Because
if they are, we're just going tofreaking.
I seriously will go out and buya thousand amp watt and just
blast them out of the way sothey can't do field day.
It's just, it's rude, it's notclub friendly, right, it's

(01:06:01):
supposed to be a time foreveryone to hang out club
friendly, right, it's supposedto be a time for everyone to
hang out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Yeah, well, I I agree with that, and so I think next
year, if the uh, whatever thedecision made, we need to find a
different spot.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
We're outgrowing mike's place, I think, too much
yeah, well, and if, and if youlook at it right, okay, it's not
just us and it's not, it's notjust our field day.
All right, motherfucker is MrAries and and the Aries group
split because nobody fuckinglikes them.

(01:06:31):
I know, right, is that wherethey split?
Yeah, so he's the, he's theNashua guy now, and and all the
fucking, the people thatactually want to do shit are
split.
And they and they split andthey're the Manchester now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Be careful with that, because the way I understand it
and I talked to my gosh I justforgot his name, paul.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Blaze.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Yeah, paul, and he said that basically what
happened was nobody would stepup for the Manchester side
because Manchester was there,but the guy who ran it stepped
down because of age and illness.
And what happened was it gotabsolved into Steve's group
because they needed to move thepeople and all of that.
But there were still peoplelike the Ardent guys and stuff
like that that didn't want to doanything with Steve because

(01:07:14):
they couldn't stand Steve andthe whole merger of that.
But what ended up happening wasis that Paul stepped back in
and he was like oh, I want to domore, I want to take over
Manchester again.
And so they opened Manchesterback up for him to be able to
lead that, because they neededsomeone who was going to
actually move that group forward.
And so he's done a freakingawesome job.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Well, the Nashville Aries people are a bunch of
idiots.
I try to listen to their netand I'm like this cannot be the
freaking emergency communicationgroup Because they're I mean
seriously they have.
They're unorganized, they don'tknow, they don't communicate
well on the repeater, most ofthem are.

(01:07:53):
They don't communicate well,period Right, but they don't
even.
They don't even the hands don'tcommunicate well, period.
I mean, if you're an Aries,right, you should be pretty
confident on the radio and feellike you can control, you know
whatever you're doing.
Like you know, like if you'rean Aries guy in my mind I'm

(01:08:14):
thinking an Aries guys gets apile up and is like boom, boom,
boom, boom, right, Gets on a net, can run it.
Hey, can you run the nettonight?
Sure, and just can do itwithout even prepping, right,
like they're the experts, theseguys.
I don't.
I'm like I was like you gottabe kidding me.
Like, seriously, our stupid,not stupid, I love our net.
Our net controller operators doa hundred times better running

(01:08:39):
our net than Aries does runningtheir net once a month, like
they should be doing.
They should be volunteering todo our net so they can get
practice, so they can run theirnet just at a satisfactory level
.
Sure, and I've listened toother aries nets, like there's
one on uh, I think there's oneon the dairy on the
interstateingham Right, and thatone runs totally different than

(01:09:05):
the one on our net.
I mean, it's very businesslike,but it's boom, boom, boom boom.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
No, it's very professional and it's run the
right way.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Right, right, ours is like.
And then, god forbid, you callthem out and say it's not the
repeater, it couldn't be them,you know.
The guy gives you a whole bunchof blowback and starts trashing
Tom and the repeater Frickin'.
Tom has nothing to do with it,the repeater's been, and he was
asking me after the first timethey went on and Tom's like hey,

(01:09:36):
has the repeater been workingall right?
I'm like it's been perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
There's nothing wrong with the repeater so I, I, I
got my ticket in february of 21.
I, I want to say by likefucking august I had joined
hillsborough, county aries andafter, after being there for a
couple of their nets, dude, I, Iwould, I would check into

(01:10:01):
rockingham, county aries netsand and I would not do
Hillsborough County because itwas just so disorganized and
such an awful fucking shit show.
And then, as time went on, dude, I've run all kinds of nets,
I've done the Army Mars training.

(01:10:23):
I mean, you want to talk about,the perfect fucking guy to
throw into Aries is this guy andlike, they shit all over me and
they're so dismissive and it'slike fuck you, like I ain't got
time for that, I got betterthings to do it definitely

(01:10:44):
probably sounds like it's thetypical.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
The leadership has been there too long and the
leadership needs to be able tolet go, and more so.
Like I can't believe Steve,110%, I can give him about 99%
of that.
The other 20 or so, or whateverI want to use for percentage,
rolls up to the the area guy andI can't think of his name at
the moment uh, alan, I think.

(01:11:08):
No, it's not Alan.
Uh, I can't remember.
Anyway, there's an overseer forthe New Hampshire overall and
that's his job in my mind, to belike making sure that all of
the lower area, you know leadersyeah section manager, section
manager are all doing their job.
I mean they aren't.
I mean we obviously.
We obviously know it's funnybecause I've had it's Al.
That's who I'm thinking of.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
And he.
We've had sidebar conversationsand I said, hey, this is kind
of my impression I don't knowwhether it's right or wrong and
he kind of agreed with it and soI don't know, it doesn't sound
like it's helping.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
Well, like I said, he does come off very arrogant and
half the things he talks abouthe's not like the super ham,
like oh my God, I got to meetthis guy because he knows
everything, because what I'veseen him operate it's very.
Even when he operates it soundsvery entitled and people just

(01:12:07):
go along with it, maybe becausethey're afraid to say something
to him.
But if I was running the fieldday, you're with us or you're
not.
You're either in the group oryou're not going off on your
corner thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
You know, I've done that to him many times in the
past.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
And I don't I mean and he's not shown up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Yeah, oh yeah, we have all.
I mean.
Winter Field Day is a perfectexample.
I don't even bother extendingto him anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
It's like Steve don't even bother asking me because
Does he do it himself?

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
No, he doesn't do it at all.
The field summer field day is atradition, according to Steve,
and what that tradition is, Idon't know where it came from or
who did it or whatever, but itconsists of a few club members
in our club that used toprobably do field day before our
club, and again I don't havethe details.

(01:13:02):
So maybe somewhere along theline, for a period of time there
was no field days from our cluband they were the only guys
that did this, and that's kindof how it evolved to where it is
now, and so they're keeping thetradition alive, but maybe
excluding others.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
What's that?
What did they do?
Hide in the corner and operateby themselves?

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
No, so COVID was.
When I first came on I heardthat they had done when COVID
was in lockdown.
They still did Summer Field Day.
They did it at I don't know ifit was at Mike's Barn or
somewhere, wherever they did it,but they had a private field
day kind of, and in that privatefield day they had what they
called their lobster and steakevening Somehow.

(01:13:42):
We did on Fridays that weripped know, we ripped off of
them.
Yeah, ours is way frickingbetter, because you know why not
.
Yeah, Well, we don't needlobster I know Right, what the
hell did you go spend that moneyfor?
Get more steak, vegetarianbrisket, my friend.
So yeah, I think you knowthat's kind of how it started.
I mean, I'm just taking stabsat the dark.
I don't know where it reallykind of came from or who brought

(01:14:04):
it on, but obviously he was apart of it.
And yeah, god forbid if I hearone more story about that stupid
trailer.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
It's not even a great .
He makes it sound like it'slike, I mean, it's a piece of
shit trailer.
Well, it's a general trailer,modified but hidden from all the
wires and everything andtechnology from his wife,
because his wife still wants touse the trailer.
Yeah, but maybe if the club gotoff their ass and spent some
money, we could buy our owntrailer or make our own trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Oh, dude, we are.
You've got the proposal, wejust need to put in the grant.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
I'm just saying that I agree with you.
I think the club's going.
I think there's going to be theyounger generation and the guys
that are motivated to dodifferent things.
Tim's got the CW stuff and he'sgot a group there that's doing
that.
We got the POTA crew.
We've got people wanting to dostuff and I think what's going

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to end up happening is theclub's going to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
There's going to be the haves, the people that do
stuff and the people that don'tyou know maybe, but I think you
know, with all of our leadership, that we got in place, whether
you know, paul doing the vestuff and you and I on the the
board.
I don't think they'll be thehalf and half knots, because I
don't think we're.
I don't want to like leaveanybody behind.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
I was surprised that they agreed for the tent.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Dude, but that's the whole point.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
Because if he was going to say no to the tent, I
was going to say no to pack itup or whatever.
I'm like all right, you'regoing to stay after and you and
the other Steve can put thefucking thing away.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
But dude here.
That's one thing, but here'sthe other thing.
Our last meeting I know youweren't at because you had some
other functions going onBaseball we voted to give Tom
200 bucks, no problem, everyoneraised their hand 100%.
For what?
So we're sending Tom Jr to TI,to Steve Goodgame's thing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Oh well, all right, that's a worthy cause, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
A hundred bucks to pay him.
Give him a stipend of a hundredbucks so he can use it for gas
or whatever.
And then he's got otherteachers and I said basically
this is our model we're going todo for other schools.
So if this works for the club,then we're going to keep loading
up other schools that want tobring on ham radio and build ham
radio clubs, and Tom's going tohelp us get us plugged into
that and then we're going to getthem all trained and get them

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all real freaking cool stuff tobuild work in the classroom and
stuff.
And so yeah, that's.
They voted 100%.
It's like it's funny becauseRalph just sits there and goes
why do we ever like?
He's like I know we have tokeep doing this so they stop
constantly thinking that we'retrying to screw them over and
spend every single dime we'vegot in our coffers.
You know they vote for it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
and then you know, lo and behold, they voted for
unanimously and like after the50-50 it's gonna be like yeah, I
think I I honestly think thatanything you want to do for the
club, you just vote on it, andwho's they never vote anything
down they haven't yet.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
Well, they almost they vote.
When I was under the regime,when field day, they voted down
a couple of expenditures,remember.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
They tried to vote down the website.
Yeah, they didn't want to spendthe money, but they have no
problem dishing money out,buying books for libraries and
so much Again, I think it'sgreat.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Would it take a fucking year to get the website
going?
Oh yeah, Although that's arecord.
I've talked to other clubs thathave taken them three.
Oh yeah, Although that's arecord.
So let me ask you this I'vetalked to other clubs that have
taken them three.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Are our viewers going to even care about what we're
talking about right now?
I don't know.
We have to.
What the hell.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Hey, I guess they can look at it like this way.
Like you know, hey, this iswhat you get when you're in a
club and you're part of otherham radio folks that are all
like multi-generational andyou're part of other ham radio
folks that are all likemulti-generational.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
So what I got out of this is don't piss the grouch
off, or he's coming after you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
Well, that's an obvious one.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
I want to egg him on.
You know what Steve said aboutyou there, paul.
He said what I'm going to goand field day and be like a
brawl.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Dude, I had an epiphany last night.
I'm going gonna tell you now,up front.
So these are coming your way.
Once I you get me carlos'saddress, I'm creating you and
carlos two t-shirts and on theback they're gonna on the front,
on the small little sectionright above, like just the below
the collar, is gonna have thelive free and ham logo and then
on the uh, on the right lapel,it's gonna say apostle paul for

(01:18:21):
you and it's gonna say sayApostle Paul for you and it's
going to say uh, parachute Jesuson his.
And then I'm putting yourgrouch logo on the back with you
skydiving, and then I'll puthis uh, you know his logo on the
back of his so you guys canwear those where you're down at,
uh, um, yeah, huntsville, Ikeep forgetting that letters
they have to be so freakingclose I always screw them up.
Yes, at Huntsville, that'scoming your way.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Are you coming home at all?
After Huntsville you are yeah.
After Huntsville, you're notgoing to go back to Indiana and
might.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
All right, here's the thing.
Um, I have to go home at somepoint because I've got mail and
packages and shit that'saccumulated since the beginning
of May, right?
Um, I just I don't know.

(01:19:17):
I got to figure out where I'mgoing to, where I'm going to
park the RV while I'm in NewHampshire.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Well, I got an idea for you.
I was at court the other day.
Some dude just decided to parkhis fucking boat in four spots
on his trailer, just fuckingsitting there court parking lot.
And I went to the bailiff's.
I'm like dude, why is there aboat taking up four spots?
Because parking's tight,Nothing we can do about it.

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It's a public parking lot.
Because parking's tight,Nothing we can do about it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
It's a public parking lot.
I mean dude had to go to courtbefore he went fishing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
No, he's been there for like a week.
The guy just like that's wherehe's parking.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Oh wow, they can't get rid of it, just leave it
there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
I'm not saying it's in the best neighborhood and
that you probably want to leavethere, but honestly, I mean you
could probably just dump itthere and people wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
I mean I'll keep an eye on it, but Get yourself a
Cousin Eddie white robe and someslippers and a nice, you know
winter red parka hat.
Come on out there and say theshitter's full and dump it in
the sewer Go ask Mike if youcould park it right in Steve's
spot and just leave it there.
And then he shows up and belike what the fuck, get this out

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of here.
I know he won't be around forthat, but yeah, it's too soon.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Are you not going to be at field day at all?
None of us are no.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Where are you going?
Wife's birthday, dude, mywife's birthday all weekend,
thank God it's like Dude doesyour wife not go?
Well, maybe my wife is anexception to the rule, but my
wife will always be like that'smy birthday week.
Like what Week?
Yeah, week, it's alreadystarted as of tomorrow, so it
runs all the way out to the 30th.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
I'm going to try to show up if I don't have a Dude
go for it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
I'm curious to see what's going to.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
I'm excited that people I might go to the camper
and just take over Steve's radio.
Oh, can I operate?
Go for it, man.
Just stay there all night.
Dude, I'm going to pile up, I'mnot leaving.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Yeah, the only thing I got to get Monday out is the
N1MM stuff set up for Markbecause he has no idea what he's
looking at.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
But outside of that, I don't think anybody other than
you knows anything about allthat shit.
Well, maybe Bill does.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Yeah, there are a few .
Who's cooking?
Nobody, they're just orderingpizzas.
They're ordering pizzas.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
Because Tim's not going to be there either, right?

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
No, Tim's staying over to be there either right
now Tim is staying over, yeah,but he's operating, I think, his
own like he's doing stuff likeI don't know, like because of
his health and you know whateverI or maybe he's working that
weekend I can't remember what itwas, but I know he said he was
going to be there, but I don'tknow to what level, jeez yep,
yeah, it's gonna be differentdude, it'll be, I might.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
I might see what carlos is doing for fucking
field day, dude, that'd be fun Imean, heck, maybe we should.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Maybe next year we should do a live free in
hamfield day let's do it at afucking state park, yeah yeah,
we could, we could well.
I mean, we should think aboutthat, because that might be kind
of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
If Greenfield turns out to be a good thing and we've
got a really good rockingrelationship, there should be no
reason why we couldn't do a 20,you know a field day for a live
free ham.
Do a whiskey one, live free ham.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
You know how many years have I been saying right,
like field day, whether it besummer or winter, should be at a
state park.
That way you can make it afour-day fucking thing and you
do podo on Thursday, friday, andthen you do field day Saturday,
sunday, and then fucking packit up and head home.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
I disagree with that you could probably do, that.
You'd probably do winter fieldday at Temple Mountain in that
parking lot.
You know it would be reallyfreaking cool.
I mean it's not like.
I mean I'm not saying that'slike, but most of the parks are
closed.
Right, you can't get into it.
You should figure out, gocamping.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
We should figure out if Arcadia has any ham radio
clubs doing field day from thereand if they're not, go do a
W1LFH up there At 001?
Yeah, at 001.
That would be awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
Whatever happened with Jason coming out to Arcadia
and remember he was.
I'm sure it's still in theworks, that's been in the works
for like two years.
Yeah, dude Well you know, Ithought we were were gonna go up
there and rent the camper.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
meet them up there and hey, you know a busy life of
a youtuber true, that is prettymuch what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
We all know that.
We share that.
You know well.
At least I don't share that, oryou know you're.
You're experiencing it a littlebit.
You haven't produced a video ina while.
I'm sure it's eating at you,not?
Really okay, all right, wellthen fine it will.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
You know, what will happen is, like I said, when,
when the baseball I'm no longercoaching and I don't have any
responsibilities except bringthem to the games and practices.
I'll probably be getting more.
I just don't have the time Iget it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
I get it today I had the game.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
I come home, I cut the grass, I jumped in the pool,
put the stairs in, took ashower, picked him up at the,
went out to the I don't knowSome freaking club in Amherst
with his friend to their pool,came home, made dinner and here
I am.
Oh, trust me, dude the onlything that's going to get a
little easier is when he startsto drive and you can say years

(01:24:47):
when he starts to drive and youcan say take the car, leave me
alone, I'll be here.
Well, diane's working from homeand and you know I'm working.
So milano has been driving himto his friend's house and I left
his.
So I went over and I fixed hisdirt bike over at his friend's
house because I couldn't figureout how to get the freaking
chinese crap dude Like the mostidiotic way to mount the motor.
It was like everything has tobe precisely in the right spot

(01:25:13):
at the right tilt angle, like itdoesn't even sit like on a,
it's like hangs and you got toget each bolt in and some of
them have like space or I'm likewhat the?
So I had to like use his bikeand copy it because I had a
bunch of freaking pieces.
I'm like I have no idea wherethis even starts.

(01:25:34):
So I got that thing going andthen I just left it there and
and his matt, my buddy's likedude, he goes you know zach's
bikes here.
I'm like, yeah, he rides itover there all the time.
So like Milano was dropping himoff to his friend Sam's house,
but Sam's not even there and toget his bike out of the shed to
go ride with his other friend,nico, and tear up the high

(01:25:55):
school.
So they're riding off like theyhave a big mulch pile.
He's like check out this air.
I got Him and his buddy aredriving up and going off the
mulch pile and getting air andcoming down the back Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
Now, paul, do you recall an episode where we
talked about, where Todd wastalking about taking apart the
bike and his son going Dad, doyou know where all those screws
go?
Did we talk about that?

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that I even offered a fantastic
suggestion.
You did, you did, you did.
Take a piece of cardboard anddraw where your bolts go and
then stick the bolts through thecardboard so that they stay in
place, and then everything isnice and neat when you go to put

(01:26:42):
it back together.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
It was all the same bolts, so it's not the only
thing is is it had, but they'renot.
No, they are, but they had.
Some had spacers and werelonger and other ones didn't.
But the thing that was hard isyou don't understand it.
Normally you would like plop itin and bolt it in.
This thing has to be balancedin on these thin little metal.

(01:27:07):
I'm telling you it was like,and then, and then you got to
get the chain on.
So try to get the chain onwithout losing it.
I was like what the this islike why?
Who designed this shit?

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Like I need that 1990s ad that we used to see on
the TV.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
That little shooting star says now you know, yeah,
you see on the TV, that littleshooting star says now you know,
yeah, the more you know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
Yeah, right, the more you know right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
That was what it was.
Yeah, and even his dad is likehe's like man, he goes, we
fucked up buying these things.
These things are a piece ofshit.
I said, yeah, you told me tobuy it, it was a good deal.
Again, all we do is sit hereand work on them and the kids
don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Todd has many of these people in his lives that
shows him how to spend his money.
Yeah, we're not the only ones.

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
I don't feel so special.
I tell you his friend Nico.
Him and his dad share a sarong.
Dude, those things are freaking.
I go hey, nico, so Nico's dadis a construction guy, right,
and he's always fixing shit.
Soico's always fixing shit andhe knows.
So he's like giving zach a hardtime because zach doesn't even
know, you know, you know how towait.

(01:28:13):
Yeah, which screwdriver youknow.
I go, hey, give me the flathead.
He gives me like a fuckingwrench, you know, or something.
And nico's like zach, get outof the way, let me do this.
And like thank god, becausenico was able to hold it while I
was getting the one bolt in,just to get the first bolt in.
So I said, hey, nico, I go, youthink I could uh, take that sir
on for a spin.
He's like yeah, sure, so I geton and he goes.

(01:28:34):
Hey, he goes, um, he goes.
If you wanted to go faster, youknow, just hit that button to
sport mode.
Well, dude, this thing haulsass and is like a fucking light
dirt bike and it is awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
So what's the big like excuse my ignorance.

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
The Suron is like in between, like a dirt bike and a
mountain bike, and it's allelectric.
It does about 50 miles an hourbut it goes from like zero to 50
and like.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
It's got dirt bike tires.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
It's got no, it's got dirt bike tires a little bigger
than mountain bike but smallerthan like a regular dirt bike.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
It's not the balloon thing.
Tires, though.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
No, no, they're skinnier, but it's got like um,
it's got like a one shock in theback like a dirt bike would
have um and it's got.
I mean the thing goes likeit'll go for like 40 miles at 25
miles an hour is what it says.
It'll go 40 miles, but thething is like it hauls and it

(01:29:45):
goes like super fast and I'm abig guy and the thing was I was
cruising on it.
I took it all the way acrossdown the power lines, through
the baseball field.
I was like, holy shit, thisthing is awesome, wow.
So I'm like, I'm like that'snot go, that's what you need to
get, but they're like, they'relike four grand.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
That point you're buying a decent dirt bike.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
No dirt, like four grand At that point you're
buying a decent dirt bike.
No Dirt bikes now I looked themup A gas dirt bike, not brand
new but like probably somethingto use.
What do you think?
A brand new like freakingKawasaki dirt bike costs
Probably like 15 to 20k.
Yeah, I was like what?
Like they were when I was a kid.
They were, like, you know, twogrand Three.
Yeah, trust me, I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
They were like two grand Three.
Yeah, Trust me, I was lookingat one.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
yeah, right Now I'm like $15,000, $20,000 for a dirt
bike, yeah, but.
I guess these yeah, that's brandnew stuff, so the Suron company
, right.
So they're kind of like theJeeps of these electric bikes
and people modify them.
So a good thing about them islike there's a thousand parts
for them.
So the good thing about them islike there's a thousand parts
for them, so if you breaksomething you could probably
replace it with something evenbetter.

(01:30:48):
And I guess Zach watches thesevideos where people there's like
groups of people that gettogether and they'll meet up
somewhere, so like they'll go tolike all right, we're going to
go to San Diego and people likewill fly, drive hundreds of
people and get on these bikesand just take over the roads.
Kind of like a posse of guys.

(01:31:12):
They rent Airbnbs and theycharge them all up and they ride
all day long, all night long.
Zach's like, check out these.
They're doing wheelies and someguys have it super modified.
They add bigger bat, I meanwhatever.
But I guess like out west it'sa pretty big thing.
So when I was out in californiawe saw about like I saw like 20

(01:31:34):
of them coming like a smallgroup coming down the street,
but we're like on the main stripin huntington beach and these
fucking guys are wheeling,blocking traffic wow, that's the
guys out like la that probablythe ones causing that, yeah but
you know the the thing is prettycool because you could go
anywhere.
You could ride it on the street,you can go off on those trails,

(01:31:55):
you can go down power lines.
I mean you basically can goanywhere you want with the thing
until the battery dies.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
yeah, but it goes 40 miles.
Okay, so, being a kid, you'renot thinking 40 miles, you're
like, hey, I hear the motor andall of a sudden this sputtering
kind of thing.
I forgot to put more gas in.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
It has a digital thing.
It only takes two hours tocharge it.
It has a meter that'll show you, so you know when you're
getting close.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Dude, I'm still a gasser guy like a meter that'll
show you.
So you know, like when you'regetting close, I don't know,
dude, I'm still gas.
Or a guy like I haven't crossedover man Batteries is the only
for ham radio for you now.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
I'm telling you, the electric engines are like like
my brother's Tesla.
I'll tell you that there is nota motorcycle or a car in the
world that can beat that thingoff the line.
There's nothing.
I don't care what you say.
Those things are so freakingfast.
When you unleash all like youjust put it on full power, go

(01:32:58):
and you floor it.
You're pinned against the seatDude it's 100%.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Torque it's zero to 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
It's a direct drive.
Yeah, you're doing zero to 60in like three seconds and then
you're cruising at 60 and youfloor it again.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
You're doing a buck 20 in three seconds, like it's
that fast oh, I know, and you,you mount them together and you
pair them up front and you knowfour-wheel, all-wheel drive kind
of thing, and yeah, you justmultiply it like yeah, it's just
, I've just, I saw a biggerbattery, dies, you know, bigger
battery they get.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
They get like 300 miles, I think.
Okay, tesla is cool for likelike local, like just driving
around town, but it sucks, likeif you ever wanted to go like on
a road trip, it's a, it sucks.
Oh, I know, yeah, becausethey'll tell you like, the
computer will tell you.
I can only imagine, like if paulhad a tesla, how he would have

(01:33:52):
replanned his trips you planyour trip and it says, oh, you
can stop here and charge and goget dinner, you know.
So it'll plan.
But the problem is there mightbe 15 fucking teslas in front of
you waiting for that onecharger, and it takes two.
You know in two hours or an forthat one charger, and it takes
two.
You know two hours, or an houreach one.
You're stuck there for 15 hours.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
So you become the Tesla owner that has a trailer
with a generator on the backthat's actually running as you
drive down the road.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
Yeah, Like like the, the Rivian trucks, and the guy
had the, he had the generator,the back.
I mean the technology is reallycool and, like I said, the
electric and the motors, thatSurron thing freaking went Like

(01:34:37):
it is fun, like it'd besomething like you would drive,
like I could drive it from likemy house to the barn and
probably be there faster andquicker than driving my car,
just because it just hauls assup that hill.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
I don't know if you'd be any.
It doesn't make you faster.
They don't flatten the roadsout for you and make them
straight.
It still takes 40 minutes toget to the barn Speed limit
still.

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
Speed limit?

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
Not on that thing, the cops came after you you just
pulled over because they justautomatically signed the ticket
for you and you could get you onyour way.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
I found out that Amherst does not give two shits
what you drive on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
Oh, that is not true well, I asked the only time, so
I haven't had an inspectionsticker on my truck since 2020.
The only time.
All right, so I haven't had aninspection sticker on my truck
since 2020.
The only time I have ever hadan issue is fucking Amherst.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
Okay, I didn't say driving illegal street legal
vehicle.
I said things.
They don't care what you driveon the street, meaning I got the
Ford Ranger right.
A non-inspectedpected,perfectly fucking good truck I
have a polaris ranger and itcosts me 25 a year to register
for the street and allows me toride it on the trails right.

(01:35:57):
So you don't have to get thatsticker that you used to get,
like for snowmobiles and stuff,because that's like 150 miles.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
You can drive that on regular local town roads, but
you can't drive that on 101.
That's a state highway.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
Local roads.
I asked him about thesesurrounds and these dirt bikes.
He's like, yeah, we don't know.
We don't care.
We don't even know what thelaws are.
So yeah, you can ride them.
It's coming from the chief he'slike, yeah, you can ride them,
and it's coming from the chief.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
He's like yeah, you can ride whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
The same guy that wanted to give you a dispatch
job too.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
Yeah, so there we go.

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
I don't know Insider baseball, I'll get that job
eventually.
I couldn't do it now.
Anyway, very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
So question a sidebar .
Any of you guys been payingattention, I guess um and uh to
is doing what a four days inaugust?
Did you see that they'replanning for that?

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
yeah, well, so um yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
So what do you mean?
Four days in august?

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
well, you know about four days.
Well, let me, let me fuckingexplain all right there grouch
jesus, so are you, I guess itsounds like.
So, all right, I I also I was, Iwas unclear about these things
because I've never been to a bigham fest, um, and so I I was

(01:37:17):
operating under the assumptionthat, like the four days in may
and the four days in August wasa vendor thing.
Uh, apparently it is not.
There is a vendor night, yeah,um, but it's, it's essentially
it's just the, the, the hamtubers, all they organize like

(01:37:41):
get togethers and meetups andkind of um, non forum, kind of
things.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
So the four days in May is all put together by ham
tubers.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
From what I understand, yeah, it's, it's
it's, yeah, it's it's just themorganizing.
Um, so yeah, there's going tobe like a a mesh tastic fucking
thing and, um, you know,obviously Friday is fucking
thing and, um, you know,obviously friday is friday
skydiving, okay oh, so you willbe part partaking in that one

(01:38:19):
for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Oh yes, so it's basically what the friday,
thursday, wednesday, tuesdaykind of like.
It's basically four days beforeup to the ham fest, right, is
that how?

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
yes, work out all right.
Interesting, yeah, huh, Ididn't.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
I thought it was always run by the qrp, basically
four days before up to the hamfast, right?
Is that how it works out?
Interesting, I thought it wasalways run by the QRP guys, at
least the four days in May one,but it sounds like it's not that
might be, but yeah, definitelythe ham tubers there.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
They've got their hands in all that.
Did they have it last year too?
Must have, because I askedabout it and they were like, oh,
this isn't a new thing.
I'm like, oh, alright, cool.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Well, I'm curious to see what that one plays out,
because the way I was watchingit I was like I watched the
video, a little bit of it, and Iwas like TO said he was kind of
in charge of it and I was like,but is he?
Yeah?
Is that Diane no, it's Milana'sfriend, oh okay she's been the

(01:39:24):
one that had your hots for youon our live streams.
A couple of times.
Yeah, interesting demographicthere, todd, that we're
attracting to our little podcasthere.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
Well, it was just interesting, she was taking
pictures over your shoulder.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
I didn't see that part until I saw her kind of
like.
You know, she looked like thatlittle, like something out of a
horror movie because she waslike kind of fuzzy.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
I was like, okay, what am I looking at here?

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
Okay, so it sounds like it's an interesting I don't
know.
Yeah, I'm curious to see whatthey'll do this year to promote
her a little bit more, because Ithink it's kind of a cool idea.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Yeah, so I missed the planning Replay, you know, but
when?
So Tio's, I missed the planningReplay, but when?
So Tio's got this wholeHuntsville four days in August
channel in his discord.
And so YouTubers coming right.

(01:40:23):
You got Jason 2.0 K Murder, robTom WA2IVD I don't know who
that is.
Ham Radio, oh, ham Radio A to Z.
Still have it.
John from the Ham Shack, oh,ham TV, the ham shack, oh tv afl

(01:40:57):
.
Uh kyle, uh jean josh chuck, uhbroken signal and dave.
And then so we got activitiesuh, nano vna satellites with
digital rancher, program yourradio, build a repeater, soda
space museum, broken signalbrewery, back 40 beer company,
and then a Meshtasticpresentation, possibly on

(01:41:17):
Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
Is that before?
Or after the beer, kind ofBecause that might make
Meshtastic even more interestingyear, kind of because that
might make this even moreinteresting.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Well, so all right now here.
So Monday the events for theday are to be determined, but,
as it stands, K Murder and I arethe ones arriving on Monday.
Tuesday events for the day areto be determined, but Jason 2.0,
lee and W4 ORH uh are arriving.

(01:41:49):
And then wednesday is uh.
Kb5, uty meshtasticpresentation and doc brad's
going to be there.
Uh, fvp jim will will show up,digital Rancher will show up.
Uh.
Nj4z shows up, broken Signalshows up.
Uh, hank W6IR is looking for acampsite and Dave Meshtastic

(01:42:15):
also arrives.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
And so where are they all doing that?
At at the campsite.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
I think at Montesano.
Yeah, oh, interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
Uh, then Thursday, Show us some video.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
I want to, I'm curious yeah, so gigaparts 11 30
am to 3, 30 classes, uh, 3dprinting, solder kit, go bags,
lunch, wow and then, yeah, aflcomes in on thursday.
Shooter ready, standby chrisbricker and lawn mower Thursday
Shooter Ready, stand by ChrisBricker and Lawn Mower.
All are going to arrive onThursday.

(01:42:49):
Friday the events Coffee atCarlos.
What's that?
Carlos is 51A, so I assumemaybe 51A is where Carlos is
staying.
We're all invited for coffeewith Carlos, oh, interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
So it sounds like they bounce around the campsites
and that's where they do alltheir little forums.
But it's kind of like they doChristmas in July, kind of those
campground things where thekids go around and hit up each
other's campsites.
That's pretty cool.
Well, not that they'recollecting candy, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Well then they're going to do a phased Z-arrays
antenna demo, some kind of podacookout parachute jumps, pop-up,
ve testing and dinner at 51A,so wherever 51A is, and
apparently Rene is volunteeringto help cook.

(01:43:46):
Cool, and then cook.
Saturday and Sunday is the HamFest.
It should be cool anyways.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
Hey, very jealous of what you're going into.

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
How far of a drive is it from where you're at to
where you're going?

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
If I was to just drive straight through.
I think it's like 12 hours,something like that, yeah, but
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna break it up over acouple days so, all right, I'm
gonna throw this in here what wegot uh, go to large screen here
.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
This is the map.
Let me zoom in here.
Montecinto, you said 51?

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
51A Go away AI system .
I don't care 51A.

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
Where are we Right there?
There we go.
Looks like it's right next tothe bathhouses, but where are
you?

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
docked at uh 33.

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
Okay, so you're all the way over there.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
You're right at the beginning, you're not that far
yeah, so it looks like you go into the gate camp host site.
Yeah, so you're very early onin the parking there.
And then 51A is just a littlebit down the road, so it looks
like it's the main campsite.
So where's the?
Oh, there's the pavilion.

Speaker 3 (01:45:12):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
So the pavilion's literally just not that far away
from you.
Cool, it's like a real coolcampsite.
Man, I wish we had some ofthese places more up here, or at
least you know when we dothings like other.
I mean, obviously we have nearfest, but near fest is just kind
of all you know very specific.

(01:45:33):
But it'd be really cool to kindof do something like this up
here.
Go away, hide yeah, I don't.
I don't know what we've got forstate parks that have like rv
slots we have like, I mean wehave the coast one which is
hampton, that's in like mass orsalisbury, but that would be the
biggest one I could think ofyeah, I think, I think bear

(01:45:56):
brook, you can.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
You can bring an rv, uh, as long as it's 30 feet or
less, but there's no hookups,there's no power, or anything
and the rvs on that side are onthe opposite side, like they're
not where where you guys campedlast year.
Right, no, duck away uh, yeah,no, I don't think so.
Why is this sharing?

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
go back here, there we go.
Stupid thing I grabbed thewrong, I grabbed the wrong one
again there we go that one, thatone, and no, what'd you do with
the regular scene there?
Put it at the bottom.
I didn't do anything with it,oh.
I see what it was this one'sgot the stupid screen here.

(01:46:40):
Go away, trash there we go itwas hiding, but whatever.
Yeah, I don't know.
Do me a favor, absorb as muchas you can Figure out what they
go and do, and if TO is the kindof the ringleader of that, I'll
reach out to him and talk tohim.
It would be kind of cool to dosomething like that up here.

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
Yeah, I mean, I figure I'm just going to wear
the GoPro chest mount and I'mjust going to try and capture as
much as I can.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
Just soak it all in, yeah go over and torture
K-Murder.

Speaker 1 (01:47:22):
Ask him about his big black, stiff mast asking about
his big black, stiff mast.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
it'll be, it'll be interesting to, uh, to, to meet,
you know, a lot of these peopleface to face for for once,
right, because, like I don't, Idon't know about you, but I
always, I always assume thatpeople are judging me right and
and I'm sure they're probablynot right, but I just, I, I
always assume right, it's humannature.
We, we always think that, uh,you know that what is it?

(01:47:51):
The spotlight effect that we'redrawing more attention than we
actually are Um, but I don'tknow like I, I, I I feel like um
, like Jason and K, murder andJosh, and like those guys like
they're familiar with who I ambut like they have no interest
in like being friends with mewell, yeah, and I get that,

(01:48:13):
because it like, sadly, theinternet makes things closer but
it makes things physically faraway, sadly.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
So, like we, I feel sort of the same way, like when
I hang, like when I see them dotheir thing.
And you got the Shane, you got,uh, you know this side of the
radio and all those guys in theTexas area hang out because
they're locally Texas guys andso they all say that but like I
mean you could be in Texas andbe six hours away from each
other.
True, but for them that's normal, like like.

(01:48:47):
Like you look at like us here,like we travel an hour out to
the coast and we think that'slong, you know sometimes so, but
like it's kind of funny you saythat because it's like when we
do northeast ham radio, it'sjust the northeast, I mean,
that's a big swath of you knowthe map.
But like shane goes, hey man,why can't I be part of that?
I'm like, well, you're in texas, but you know at the same time
it's like who cares?
Like just come hang out with ustime.
It's like who cares, just comehang out with us.
And so it's like they kind oflike that.
That's the same feeling.
I guess YouTube makes usfarther away but at the same

(01:49:11):
time we sort of know each otheron what we present to them
video-wise.
I'm sure their view of me isprobably not just any better
than the stuff you struggle within terms of them thinking of
what you think of yourself.
But yeah, it's funny because I,I, I did it's.
I had to share that same storywhen jason came out here, when
they did that rove with kyle,like they were fast paced and

(01:49:34):
like I got five minutes withjason and like he knew me from
nobody and like I'm just liketrying to have a conversation
and I felt like he was kind ofsort of like yeah, hey, cool,
good to meet you.
I got to get to my nextdestination, I got to like you
know, he was just off doing histhing and him and Kyle like
clicked and you know I only hadtalked to Kyle just a little bit
in email and I felt the samesimilar way.

(01:49:59):
It's like you know, what dothey think of me?
Like I'm this small, this leech, trying to steal every
subscriber away from them, kindof thing.
And so, yeah, I'm a little bitmore mature, a little bit wiser,
as they say.
But I share that sentiment forsure.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I'm sure they're allgreat people and we're going to
get along and we're going tohave a great time.

Speaker 1 (01:50:34):
But yeah, it's just I don't know.
At least from this point itfeels like you know.
Those guys just have zerointerest in understanding me and
we're the circle of trust.
My only fear is that you'regoing to go down there and
you're going to click with themall really well.

Speaker 2 (01:50:42):
And they're just going to move to Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
No well, the Texas is fine, whatever.
But like they're going toassociate the live free at ham
just to Paul, Like it's justgoing to be like live free at
ham, paul.
Todd and I are just going to belike this like you know
ephemeral, you know fixtures inthe background that kind of just
fill in dead air when you knowPaul Free and Ham and I'm the

(01:51:08):
add-on.
But, dude, I'm going to get alittle bushy here, but you've
added the color to this littlecrew here.
That's why we love it, because,as Stan says, what else would
we be doing Talking to 80 meters, just him and I?

Speaker 3 (01:51:24):
Yeah, what else would we be doing?
Talking to 80 meters?
Just him and I.
Yeah, well, look it, liv Freeand Ham really came out of all.
Even Ryan came out of POTA.
Yep, eric and I were doing POTA, right, and Ryan came by,
introduced himself, got him tothe club, and then I got my
general.
And then the first, well, thesecond park at the rail trail we

(01:51:49):
, the three of us, went that wasmy second time doing it and
then that was it from there.
Then it was field day.
We did a bunch of field days orwhatever, and then, uh, yeah,
here we are freeing him.
Yeah, how many years now.
Two years, two years.

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
Yeah, we're pretty two years young, as they say,
but yeah, I have a feeling.
Uh, you know, we got many moreto go and you know, dude I look
on, I look on by sprout.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
It's like you've got 11.8 downloads and your next
download is 25 000.
It's like we're not evenhalfway there I know, but dude
goes quick.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
I mean, what we hit like our subscribers are
freaking funny to watch, likelike we've hit like when we
launch certain podcast episodesI don't know whether we tease
them or not or we don't do it atall but like we've had like two
or three hundred downloads inone day, like that's like
mind-blowing in my mind.
Like 200 people download ourfreaking podcast and want to
hear us babble exactly whatwe're doing now.

Speaker 3 (01:52:47):
Well, and there's also like, if you look at the
countries, like there'scountries like now I'm wondering
this is what I want to know ifthey're, if you're listening to
this and you're from new zealand, just send us an email, let us
know you're legit.
Because I'm thinking is it justguys with like vpns and they
just just pick New Zealand andthat's what it shows up as.

(01:53:08):
Are there really people in NewZealand watching, listening to
us?

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
Dude, if we ever get big.
I don't know if you guyssubscribe to Callum at all.
Okay, so he does his yearlyopen house thing and I'm like,
and it's always in June, thistime frame it's like a week
before field day at least for us, and I'm like I so badly just

(01:53:33):
want to figure out how we canbook tickets to fly over there
and spend the whole entire weekwith him hanging out at his
freaking antenna farm andplaying with his radios.
Where in England does he live?
Good question, I don't know.
I'll have to find out.
I can find out really quickhere.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
Well, it's not a very big country, so Sure.

Speaker 3 (01:53:54):
It's like three hours from like south to north before
you hit Scotland.
It's like going from NewHampshire to New York.

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
He's in Honolulu, cv8 , england, h-o-n-i-l-e-y.
That's where the shop is.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
Honolulu.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
Good question.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
I saw a reel or whatever.
It was right, but it was.
It was an english guy and hewas like listen, I need to
explain to all the other peoplethat live in the uk the
difference between traveling inthe uk versus America.

(01:54:45):
Right, and he's like you canliterally drive the whole
circumference of the UK in 14hours.
Like you could drive 14 hoursand still be in Texas.
Yeah, and so you know he waslike he was, and so you know he

(01:55:06):
was like he was.
Like we, you know the be in theUK people like if they've got
to drive, you know, more thanhalf an hour anywhere, they
think, oh, my God, that's so far.
And but, like you know, that'skind of like us in new England,
if we have to drive more thanhalf hour, 45 minutes, maybe you
know it's like, ah, do I reallywant to?

(01:55:28):
But the whole rest of ourcountry, like you got to drive
an hour or two hours to getanywhere.
Oh, when I lived up, when Iwent to college.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
I lived up north.
If you wanted to go and go buya pair of jeans, you had to make
a day out of it to get down tothe mall go buy a pair of jeans.

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
You had to like make a day out of it to get down to
the mall.
Yeah, true Question.
When you were over in England,where were you?
What's the biggest, nextclosest city that?

Speaker 3 (01:55:52):
you remember when you were over there?

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
Me yeah, when you were over in England where I
lived in a town I've never beento.
England so he's not talking tome.

Speaker 3 (01:56:02):
Thank you.
I lived in a town calledcobbham, c-o-b-h-a-m.
Okay, so epping weymouth.
Uh, so south, it was south.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
I would say it was southwest of london let me do
this real quick and I'll bringthis in and you can yeah,
whether I'm even close or not.
Uh, come on, share the screen.
Okay, let's make this big andbig.

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
I live like somewhere around here, around like Oxford
.
No, go to London, okay, yep,and then go down to like 7
o'clock, okay, right outside thewhite Southampton, so down, no,
no, no, we're wrong, keep going.
See where it says Epsom, epsom,kingston, on the Thames, right,

(01:56:52):
somewhere in there, wokingGuilford, probably right, yeah,
right around the Woking, wokingEpsom area, okay, somewhere else
where I lived.

Speaker 1 (01:57:06):
So from Guilford here he lives, or at least DX
Commander is up here bySheffield so somewhere down in
here.
Yeah, that's a distance Like adistance like 14 hour distance
or like a drive to Jersey, letme see Shred out a little bit,
oh, no, no, shred out a littlebit.

Speaker 3 (01:57:27):
Oh bad, no, no.
Yeah, that's probably.
Keep going.
I got to see where Scotland iscompared to Sheffield Keep going
.
Yeah, that's probably aboutEdinburgh.
So from here to there is likethree and a half hours.

(01:57:47):
That's not that bad.
Yeah, it's probably like anhour and a half.
Maybe that's decent.
You take the M1.
Hey, it's a highway.

Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
If folks want to have us head over to DX Commanders,
become Patreon members.
Come support us and we'll allthree of us, figure out how to
fly out there and go hang outwith callum for, you know, three
or four days, and we'll takeyou along for the whole entire
freaking journey.

Speaker 2 (01:58:15):
I'll take a, I'll take a boat and I'll meet you
there oh yeah, that's right youdon't fly.

Speaker 1 (01:58:18):
I keep forgetting.
Okay, so paul will be doing thec portion.
It'll be planes, trains andautomobiles.
The ham edition, what?

Speaker 3 (01:58:25):
do you mean you don't fly?
You've been getting it.
I don't fly commercial.

Speaker 1 (01:58:30):
Well, ryan will just fly, like I said Ryan might have
to private pilot him over, soRyan will have to come with us.
This will be the one journey hecomes.

Speaker 3 (01:58:37):
You'll get to go on the Gulf Stream and hitch a ride
, the Gulf Stream but yeah.
Why you fly commercial, becauseit's a giant pain in the ass.
Well, ryan, that's the, that'sthe only reason why you don't do
it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:51):
Yeah, I I I hate being vilified to to just
fucking travel, like don't treatme like a fucking terrorist
because I've I've got tattoosand a fucking beard and and and
I talk the way that I talk likefuck you.
Like I got my plane ticket, I,I'm, I'm following the fucking
rules, I put my bag on the thingthere's.

(01:59:13):
I don't need to get in afucking scanner and take my
goddamn shoes and my belt offand all that fucking bullshit
Look at.

Speaker 3 (01:59:20):
for like a mere 80 bucks you can get the the TSA
pre and you can avoid all thatshit, they'll come to your home,
paul and they'll make you takeyour shoes off and they'll probe
you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:30):
And do all that in your own function of your own
home.

Speaker 2 (01:59:33):
Yeah, come on TSA, come fucking get some, come get
some.

Speaker 3 (01:59:38):
Well, you know you can thank the shoe bomber there.
He's the asshole that made ourlives miserable traveling.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
I'm sure many more added to that, but yeah, he's
definitely well known he wasafter that happened.

Speaker 3 (01:59:50):
And then it was like that's when you take the fucking
shoes off.
And I got so pissed one time Iwas like I told Diane we were
coming back from St John.
I'm like I'm just going tofucking strip naked.
Fuck, these guys really go overwell.
Well, I was losing.

Speaker 1 (02:00:07):
So many clothes I was like shit, that's a Jamaica man
.

Speaker 2 (02:00:09):
Woohoo, yeah, they'll really so.
The thing is that in inaddition to all all the bullshit
that you got to deal with withgoing through TSA, right, but
then you're also sitting on afucking crowded plane with a
bunch of other fucking halfwitsthat have no respect for anybody
other than themselves, it'sjust not worth it.

(02:00:31):
It's not worth it.
I'll drive If I can't drive.
I'll take a fucking boat if Ihave to.

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
Or we could figure out how to put them in a live
box that says animal, liveanimals if we get enough people.

Speaker 3 (02:00:52):
Yeah, hey just charter here, if this, if this
entices you, you know or maybewe can charter a jet and we
don't have to pay for the pilot.

Speaker 1 (02:01:02):
We just have ryan fly us if wow, I can only imagine
what that would go for.
I mean, if Ryan was telling mewhat, like it was two grand to
charter a plane just to fly fromyou know somewhere here in New
Hampshire to Dayton and then flyback, it was like, okay, yeah,
that's expensive and we getthere in an hour.
Well, yeah, but Only two grand.

(02:01:25):
It was like $ 20 2800 orsomething like that.

Speaker 3 (02:01:29):
I can't remember exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:01:29):
But what?
What kind of plane was it?
Who knows?
It was only enough to put fourpeople in, so it wasn't big
probably be like bring anyluggage, it's a single prop man,
just get out there and pullhard.
Yeah, no, I, yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (02:01:45):
We'll have to investigate that one right, I
want to do road trip anyway Iprefer to do all the polar parks
ryan said that, uh, he had togo down and pick up the ceo's
dogs on nantucket.
That plane you need two pilotsand you know it's.
It's a lot of money to flythose fucking things and I said

(02:02:05):
I think it was like 10 grand.
He said I said, dude, I wouldhave done it for five, I would
have driven down there andgotten the dogs back.
He's like he goes dude, moneyis nothing to these guys.
Like like they live in atotally different world.
Like to to spend 10 grand to gopick up your dogs is like like,

(02:02:26):
yeah, they don't even itdoesn't your dogs is like like
they don't even, it doesn't evenphase them, not even that they
don't even fade, it doesn't evenphase the amount of money that
these guys spend.
He said that the guy, the oldCEO, liked soccer.
So he, I think he said anddon't quote me on this, but I
think he said it was like athousand dollars an hour or
something for them to haveinternet on one of the planes so

(02:02:47):
he could watch his soccer games.
I believe it.

Speaker 1 (02:02:52):
He doesn't pay any of that.
The company pays all that.
Well, I know.

Speaker 3 (02:02:56):
But I'm just saying, it's like that's just, I mean I
know.
But now he says he's got UncleElon, they've got a Starlink on
it now, so it's funny.

Speaker 1 (02:03:07):
The lavish 1% we have in our lovely US economy lives
way more extravagant lives thanwe'll ever know.

Speaker 3 (02:03:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:03:18):
Well, man, I don't know about you, but it is two
and a half hours of this andthis has been fun.
You haven't been here, you'veonly been here, well, I have not
Okay, mine have not Okay.
Mine has been here for two anda half hours.
I've been two, two hours.
We're almost on the 40-minutemark here.

Speaker 2 (02:03:32):
Listen, in all fairness, you can cut out
everything before you showed upand just make that the show.

Speaker 3 (02:03:41):
Okay, we'll see how that one goes.
We didn't say much Great.

Speaker 1 (02:03:48):
Excellent.

Speaker 3 (02:03:49):
There was a lot of quietness, he disappeared.
I'm like where'd you go?
I can still hear you.

Speaker 2 (02:03:58):
Yeah, he's got some wires.
I was getting beer.

Speaker 1 (02:04:03):
Down the street at the mart.
That's how good he was.
Oh, all right.
Well, you guys got anything youall want to add, or we could
wrap the show up.

Speaker 3 (02:04:12):
I'd be curious to see what people think of this one,
because this was all over theplace.
I mean, we spent a good 45minutes basically ragging on our
club.

Speaker 1 (02:04:22):
Well, I don't edit anything for our Patreon, so
they get the raw as it is,whatever it looks like.

Speaker 3 (02:04:28):
How many club members watch this YouTube?
Oh dude.

Speaker 1 (02:04:32):
We're going to find out pretty quickly.
We're going to find out prettyquickly.

Speaker 3 (02:04:37):
We're going to be banned, we all love you.

Speaker 2 (02:04:39):
Send all your complaints to grouchn1og at
gmailcom.

Speaker 3 (02:04:45):
There you go.
We're going to be put aside atthe meetings with your ham guys
over here.

Speaker 1 (02:04:53):
Todd, can you come over here for a second?
We've got to talk aboutsomething.
We've already asked it, Eric,but we're going to work on you
next.

Speaker 3 (02:05:04):
I already said, I've got enough friends.
I like our club.
I think it's a good club.
This happens with every club.
I mean we've had these things.
I've been with the Flying Clubfor what?
15 years almost, maybe evenlonger, and we've had the up and
downs.
I mean things have gone.

(02:05:25):
I just think when we're doingclub things, it should be club
things.
It shouldn't be separated.
It should all be one place andtogether.
That's the way it should be.
I agree.
Yeah, If you do somethingprivately on your own, go for it
.
But it's always bothered me,from even when I wasn't even
really involved with the club.

Speaker 1 (02:05:46):
It just seemed weird.
Like Paul said, ham radiooperators suck at communication.
So there you go.
That's why we have so manyproblems with our club.
But come hell or high water,we'll fucking get it all sorted
out and everything will all begood on the other side.
I don't know.
I'm one of those guys that will.
I don't care how much water ispouring into the boat, I know
this fucking boat's going tofloat.
So let of those guys that will.

(02:06:07):
I don't care how much water ispouring into the boat, I know
this fucking boat's going tofloat.

Speaker 3 (02:06:10):
So let's just start bailing and get this shit done.

Speaker 1 (02:06:11):
Boston Whaler for the sake.
Very true man, Very true.

Speaker 3 (02:06:13):
Our club should be called the Boston Whalers.

Speaker 1 (02:06:16):
We refuse to go down, oh my gosh, let's not ask for a
name change.
That could be detrimental.
Well, I'm taking the time, myfriend, oh man.
Well, so sorry to those folksthat are like what the hell did
I just listen to?
Well, we hope you're stilllisteners and you're still
hanging out with us, because,heck, you know, hey, we're real.
You know, as Grouch says,you're going to only get the one

(02:06:36):
side of him and it's the honestside, and you know, liffrey
and't like it.
Well, hey, like New Englandweather, wait till tomorrow.
We'll see what that one brings.

Speaker 2 (02:06:48):
The next episode will be completely different.

Speaker 1 (02:06:50):
Oh yeah, We'll be back to normal.
We'll be like what the hell didwe do?
So, all right.
Well, we thank you guys forhanging out here, living the
love with Live Free and Ham, andwe truly appreciate every one
of you guys who supports ourshow.
We can't thank you enough,especially after tonight.
So if you want to come hang outwith us, you can always head

(02:07:11):
over to our Discord.
Tell us what the fuck happened.
You know what you feel, likeyou had to share with your
therapist.
I'm going to listen to this onefrom beginning to end A couple
of times over, just so we get acouple of good pieces of gold
there, mike, we actually mightget the hate mail this time.
Dude, no doubt Bring it onthere we go.

(02:07:32):
Todd's waiting for some goodreviews there.
This is perfect time for that.
All right, we want more.
We want more.
Yeah, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (02:07:44):
Could you imagine to say listen, we want to show,
we'll see how pissed off you canget the grouch.

Speaker 1 (02:07:49):
You're going to have to develop a whole level meter
and a threshold.

Speaker 3 (02:07:55):
How pissed off can he get and just keep feeding him
stuff?

Speaker 1 (02:07:59):
If you would like to see that, send Todd an email and
you can find Todd's emailaddress, just to delay that
process.
So you can kind of thinkthrough your actions before you
decide you guys can get me goingeasily.

Speaker 3 (02:08:10):
You know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, not baseball.
I love baseball, I'm just tiredof it.
I need a break.

Speaker 1 (02:08:16):
Yes, I know we're going to add that back in.
I got to find that video Allright.
Well, anyway, like so, to wrapthings up, subscribe to our
YouTube channel.
Catch all our awesome contentover there.
We still got to get that 500subscriber end of the month live
stream out there.
I can only imagine what we'regoing to talk about, but it'll
be fun.
We're going to talk field day,right.

Speaker 3 (02:08:38):
This is going to come out after field day right?
Yes, I think so.
Hope you guys had a great fieldday and we'll be telling you
our stories or my story.

Speaker 1 (02:08:48):
You're the only one attending, so, yes, you'll have
to tell us all the great news,or whatever happens.
So with that, you can leave us anice review, tell us how your
field day was, share some ofthose stories and you can do
that via our SMS link and it'sall of our show notes.
Or you can leave us a wonderfulvoicemail, because we haven't
had a few in a while and I waswondering whether or not that
worked.

(02:09:08):
So that is a 978-233-1142 andas it always says at the bottom
and I love that statement iscall us for a good time, and I
guarantee you will have a goodtime, especially with an episode
like this.
So you can support our show byjoining our Patreon, and all of
our Patreons get awesome,awesome perks as being a Patreon
paid Patreon member.

(02:09:29):
Or, if you want to give us aone time donation, you can buy
us a beer over on our websiteand again, head over to
livefreeandhamcom, learn aboutour show, check out our latest
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(02:09:49):
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