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July 16, 2025 52 mins

Have you been trying to influence the people around you by steamrolling over them? If you try to control and micromanage, they’ll resist your influence, not embrace it. But if your faith is in God, and you’re receiving wisdom from Him, you’ll become a faith-building asset to those you have influence over.

I have Katie M. Reid, author of a new study, “God, What Do I Do?” with me today. We’re talking about the story of Deborah—a woman who was called a “Mother of Israel.” How did she invest in the children of her nation? She stewarded her influence with the men in her life, rather than bulldozing over them. Join us for a conversation from a story in the book of Judges and learn how you too can be a woman who trusts God and stewards your influence well.

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Guest: Katie M. Reid

Bible Passage: Judges for Israel - Judges 4 CSB

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Katie M. Reid

KATIE M. REID is a Bible teacher, author, and podcaster. Trained in education, Katie teaches around her kitchen table, in the classroom, and around the country. She cohosts The Martha + Mary Show and runs the Martha + Mary Show Sisterhood group on Facebook. Katie is a pastor’s wife and worship leader. Following Jesus, marrying her husband, and being a mom to five are the best decisions she’s made.

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