Rewriting our Mindsets & Decoding the Matrix | Dr. Victor Manzo | Ep. 14 - Living Leaders

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go on a journey.
Hey, conscious leaders, welcome.
I'm joined today by a trulyprofound individual, Dr. Victor
Manzo. And I loved thisconversation for so many
reasons. But I think for any ofus who have bought into the

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conventional definition ofsuccess, and really chased that
or have experienced burnout, Imean, this, this is a man who
experienced all of that, andthen started to rewrite what his
version of success really was.
What I think is so profoundabout this episode is that we

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are getting to hear from someonewho has done the deep work to
rewrite his beliefs to updatehis mindsets to redesign how he
does business and life. And he'snow experiencing the benefits
and the outcomes of doing that.
He's gone through the fear andthe the initial hesitation that

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can come with honoring ourselvesand choosing against the grain.
So he is a living proof point ofwhat is possible on the other
side of these of these boldchoices of choosing ourselves.
And he has so much to offeraround how he actually did that.

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From questions. He asked himselfto practices to notice things in
his own body around when he wasin alignment, and what was
lighting up for him. So we willget to learn on multiple levels
today from Dr. Vick. So as youlisten to the episode, I invite

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you to listen across multiplelayers. Listen with your mind,
listen with your heart, listenwith your body, because the the
wisdom that this man is offeringis multi-dimensional. And just
by being in his presence, I knowthat I felt like my own being
and my own mindset was rewritingitself in real time. So this is

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definitely an episode you don'twant to miss. There is some
incredible wisdom, especiallytowards the end, so be sure to
tune in, all the way through andlet us dive in. I'm here with
Dr. Victor Manzo. Dr. Vick is asuccessful business owner turn
business mindset coach. He'swritten three books, all with

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very compelling titles I mightadd. He's the creator of the
mindful experiment podcastranked in the top 1% of podcasts
globally on Listen notes. AndVic I did my research, I learned
that you are also a ReikiMaster, who has studied many
healing modalities. And you eventook a deep dive into studying

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end of life at one point. Sofascinating individual, thank
you so much for being here withall of your wisdom today.
Now, thanks for having me, I'mreally excited to be here and
have this awesome combo with youand share space.
Thank you so much, that yourstory is so powerful. So I

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really want to lean intostorytelling as medicine here
and to drop us in to really thepinnacle of your success because
you you built a ton of successby every definition. You put in
the hard work, you chase yourdreams, you built the financial
wealth and you were having theimpact in your community. But so

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drop us into that. What What wasit like to get to that peak in
your career and what was goingon in your body in your mind at
that time?
Yeah, it's it's one of thosethings were took five years to
hit my financial peak in mychiropractic office and at that
time, you know, when I hit that,I thought that when I got to

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that point because it was I wasmaking I had a huge impact in
the community. That was my main,like, inspiration to keep
driving forth, but and then themoney follow that. And it was
one of those things like when Isaw how much money I was making,
I was like, Okay, why am I nothappy? Like, maybe it's just my
mindset. Maybe I just don't Imean, I know I had issues of
smelling the roses at time. So Iwas like, maybe it's that. But I

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was unsatisfied, I wasunfulfilled. And one of the
things that when I was lookingback on that journey was is
like, every four to six months,I was burned out. And that was
very puzzling for me, you haveto understand, anything I get
into anything I put my energytowards is I have to be
extremely passionate about ithas to make a difference in some
way, shape, or form. Or else I'mjust not gonna be interested, I

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don't care about I don't ever, Idon't ever do things just
because of money. And forsomeone that like me, who is
even to this day, I don'tpractice chiropractic, but I'm
still passionate about it, Istill talk about it, I still
share it as much as I can.
Because I love the profession.
But at the same token forsomeone who loves something so
much, but yet got burned outevery four to six months was one

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of the most confusing things forme, I just, I was just like, How
is this possible? I can, youdon't have to give me a why to
wake up every morning, I'm readyto go. But I was exhausted and
burned out. And I really had todo some retrospective and really
doing some deep dive into somesoul seeking and really look at
my life. And because I reallylooked at my wife at that time,

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and I looked at her. And I said,I don't know, if I want to
continue doing this. It's alwaysan uphill battle. There's always
like struggle showing up. And Inever feel like I can just take
the foot off the brake, likejust take a second just to chill
for here. Because if I do that,everything starts to dip. And
then I have to put the energyback in to get it back up. And
it was like, it just does itdoesn't seem right. And with my

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background and energy healingand so forth. Even though I
learned a lot about the depthsof healing. I also learned a lot
about consciousness, quantumphysics and all this other
amazing stuff in spirituality.
That was didn't expect it, butmy mind was loving it. And I was
in embrace, I got to learn a lotabout life. And I was like,
there's universal laws that saysomething different, the law of
least effort, least amount ofwork to get the greatest game

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possible. That means thatthere's only there's only so
much work, which gives you themax gain, you can keep adding
more work, the max gain is notchanging. And so I was like, How
can I do that? Or what how doyou define things is what
becomes a reality. You know,definition, the words we use the
stories we tell ourselves andI'm like, But why is it that
this is happening this way. So Itook some soul seeking and I

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started to realize I wasconditioned. I was a prototype
of many other successfulchiropractors, I was a prototype
of other businesses listening tobecause at the time, when I came
out of chiropractic, even beforechiropractic school, I come from
blue collar family. So I wasvery seeing financial scarcity
was something I saw what Ididn't want to have, and seeing

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that grow up. I saw it in mycommunity, I saw it around. So I
was like, I don't want that Iwant to have financial
abundance. And so I was verydriven from that. And so like
studying what I was like what isit becomes this one of the most
successful CEOs and mostsuccessful people in the world,
they they read 5060 books ayear, on average, okay, I'm
gonna read at over 120 Then itwas like, you gotta you gotta

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sacrifice right? This is themain some of the mainstream
messages. So you have to, yougotta give you can't go out.
Don't do this. Don't listen tomusic. Always download
information. Now let's just popknowledge, meet more knowledge
means more money, more success.
Okay, fine. Then listen tomusic, which I love listening to
a variety of different music.
But I was listening to podcasts,videos, all these other things.
So I was doing all the work thatI was supposed to do to have

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success. And somebody just say,well, at least you made it
financially. That's what youwant it. I was like, yeah, no,
that's not what I really wanted.
I wanted fulfillment. And Ithought that was going to be
part of the pie, they opened upthe door to opportunities that
allow that. And it wasn't. Andthat was very disheartening in a
lot of ways until I started torealize how I was conditioned,

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and I was being just products ofother people. And then I started
seeing the trap how others dothis too, in business and in
life. And that's the momentwhere I literally said, Well, I
looked at my wife and said,Well, we're going to make a
change. And we're going to runour practice the way we want to
run it because I had a coach atthe time who was a phenomenal
business coach, she helped meout massively. But I remember
one of the things she used tosay was like, meet people where

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they are when it comes tohealth. Don't try to you know,
no one's gonna want to be likeyou, for the most part, you take
your health to a whole notherlevel, you're not going to find
too many people like that. Sojust meet them where they are.
If they can't commit to thiscare plan that you're
recommending, then, you know,maybe they'll do a little less,
but at least you're gettingsomething that never sat well
with me, but I was like she wasvery successful in business. I'm
gonna trust her. And well, well,that's one of the things one of

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the Bernat why I had burnout somuch is because I was living not
only just being a prototype toothers, but I wasn't living what
was chiropractic to me. I wasn'tliving an authentic life of what
it really mattered to me, likeif I was just gonna lay
everything out on a piece ofpaper and say, This is what I
want to do for chiropractic, runmy office and do it in this way.
I was I wasn't doing that. And Ithink deep down. We all know

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what we really want toexperience in life. And I think
this is why we have burnout somuch and we're seeing burnout so
much more. There's other reasonsfor burnout too. And I can we'll
get into But I think that's oneof the the issues, at least for
me at that time was, is notliving, what's authentic to me,
and how I want to do things.
Wow. So, so well said, I thinkthis living authentically, to us

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can look so different for everyperson. And it sounds like you
found so much success you likeyou played the game, right? You
got really good at the templatethat was already out there in a
lot of ways. But then, and evenemulating those around you. But
then you started to question I'mreally hearing in your story,
the power of the questions thatyou were asking of literally

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questioning your own reality andhow it all works. And it seems
like you hit a point where yousaw a different path, you felt
the misalignment perhaps and,and saw a different way. So I
definitely want to get intothat. But can you? Can you also
walk us through? What didburnout really look like for you

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on an embodied level? And inyour relationships? And what was
that point where you, you reallysaid enough is enough and chose
to kind of do this in adifferent way?
Yeah, I mean, mental exhaustionlike just not not not showing
fatigue. But creativity wasn'talways there, like I wanted, I
mean, my mind wasn't as sharp asit could. But one of the things

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that it's is what I teach my, mypatients all the time, and like
your body never lies, it willalways show you what's in your
environment, like how you'reinvited, it's a it's a, it's a
representation of yourenvironment, your environment is
what you live in how you thinkyour stresses, mental,
emotional, chemical, physical,all these different things. And
that's what your body is, it's arepresentation of the
environment. So if you havesomething wrong there, your

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environment imbalance in someway, shape, or form. And so I
would have, you know, it wasn'tuntil it's funny, because I
would have like my backlog outevery once in a while wasn't too
crazy. But once I made thischange, I my body, your body,
sometimes it's some people do itduring the process. For me, it
was after, we're all of asudden, the stress, I kind of

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made the changes, I was allexcited. And then it was like
six, eight months later, my backgoes out like I never had before
in my life. It went, it took meeight months. And there was a
period of that time, wherepretty much pretty much almost
the whole time where I wasalmost thinking of how to get
another chiropractor in theoffice because I just couldn't,
I'd have to go adjust patiencefor a little bit, I go four or

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five at a row. And then I gointo my exam room, and I have to
lay on the floor for fiveminutes. And my wife knew this,
I told her, I'm like, I'm goingto be taking breaks. I said,
when it comes to adjustinginfants and kids, I can't do my
normal way of adjusting. Sowe're gonna have to modify, just
let the moms know for me, sothat they know that. And it was
one of those things where I hadI did this for eight months. And
it was it was getting veryexhausting and taxing. But

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imagine just being not havingthose reserves Now show me as
your best best person. So like,after the end of my days, I was
tired. And I'm never tired. ButI was like, just like, I don't
mean tired. And I mean, likeenergetically, like I just get
home, my wife would I would justgo to her normal rhythm of just
like, alright, let's just makedinner really quick, okay, we're
gonna take the dog for a walk.
And it wasn't like being presentin showing up in the best

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version of ourselves. And I sayus because my wife was going
through some summer. And it wasone of those things that, you
know, it just do you lose out onthe aspect of like that zest of
life and that that, for me, itwas more presents, I just
wasn't, it was more just havingto do rather than enjoying the
journey of it. And sometimes belike, Okay, here we go, we got

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this much end of the day, great.
I'm going to relax here a littlebit. And it's all like I was
working like crazy. My workhours were you know,
chiropractors have bank hoursfor the most part. But it was
just that that concept of, youknow, like, Okay, I just got
very, I had enough of enough ofan uphill battle. And it's
getting to the point whereyou're just like, and what I

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mean by an uphill battle is justthere was I never was like, felt
like I was in this groove.
Because I was sharing earlierlike, I always had to be on the
a game I can never just take astep off can ever just relax for
a second I can let things justwork out the way they normally
do. And I knew chiropractorsthey were able to do that. Like
they're like, Oh yeah, I had areferral practice and never had
to worry about anything,everything took care of itself
and it's like, why am I nothaving that? You know, why am I
always having this other part somentally exhausted and

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emotionally probably even thereand it played a toll because
what happens when you don't havethose reserves, then in a
relationship or in anythingshort fuse come something
happens you know, your mindsgonna you're gonna react you're
gonna be more reactive, you'renot gonna you're gonna get
pulled in more to focusing onnegative things rather than
positive. And so I just wasn'tshowing up as my best version
anymore and it was dishearteningand it was at a point where I

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was like, I'm not I'm not happywith this. But on the outside
you would have thought I wasbecause when I was a public
here's the thing when I was inthe office, that was my happy
space. Like it was just like,that's my zone like I can get I
can be in a very bad mood but wehad a rule in our office where
everything anything personalanything you had outside that
office, you leave we had like animaginary hook outside the door.
You leave it there, you walk in,we created experience for

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people. So I was always able todo that. But it was one of the
but then again, there's also acost to that because I'm I'm
pressing, the more I did that,which I showed be present for my
patients and give them my 100%that I could there, I will lose
the other areas of my life.
Wow, you know this this burnouthappening across the multiple

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layers of our human experience,right? The physical, the mental,
the emotional, even even thespiritual, it sounds like you
were noticing the resistance,but you could still align when
you were in the office with thething that needed to be done and
find the joy. And I think sooften there's this this inner

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dialogue that happens of Ishould be happy, I'm presenting
as very successful by someoneelse's definition. And I should
feel this way. And yet I'mhaving a completely different
inner experience. My inner worldisn't exactly matching up with
that outer world. So talk to usabout how you started to connect

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those worlds and begin torewrite the rules of the game
for yourself.
Yeah, it was, you know, once wegot to that point, and I started
doing this deep soul seeking itwas six months, but one of the
things we started to, we lookedat because I started like, Okay,
where's this conditioning? Whatwhat is what's real for me, and
then what is conditioned? Nowthink about things like okay,

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being a family wellnesschiropractor, right? In I was
originally eventually I was andstarted looking going into
pediatrics, but I was like,family wellness. Well, what I
was I told you have to workweekends, why do I have to work
weekends? Well, it's good forthe moms, it makes it easier for
them. They make theirappointments for the kids. I'm
like, okay, I get that. But thatdoesn't work well for me. And
then I was like, Well, you know,if I everything's energy, right?

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Everything's attraction,everything's no vibration. And
so if I set the tone for what Iwant to create, for my practice,
and have the hours I want, thenthose who are going to come here
are going to be attracted to thetimes that I have, right?
Because sometimes we think andlike from a chiropractic
perspective, we think havingmore days and times means more
availability for people to come.
But the actual truth is, whenyou do that, actually, you get

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more three people excuses tomiss an appointment to rebook,
and then give them more chancesof missing again, and what ends
up and I seen that I saw ithappen a couple times in my own
where I extended hours, and mynumbers would drop. And I'd be
like, how is that happening? I'madding time to make it easier.
And I was like, this isinteresting. So I started to

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what I did is in the journey inthat process, I just started to
look within and what was reallywhat was valuable, what was
important to me. Right. And soone thing I you know, I remember
growing up hearing work smarter,not harder. So I'm like, How can
I work smarter? What are thethings that I can do to be more
effective in what I do? I'velearned all about time
management, everyone hears abouttime management, especially in

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the business world. But whatabout energy management? How can
I show up? And this was aquestion I asked myself, I was
like, How can I show up to theoffice? How can I cut my hours
down, where it can be satisfyingfor me satisfying for my wife so
she can have her breaks, I canhave my breaks, because I had
other projects I wanted to workon. But then also we can have
more time for each other andenjoy our time. And and I was

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like but still at the sametoken, provide the exact same
service of care, to be able tobe there 100% for my patients
and present the way I want topresent and run my office, the
way I do, the way I wanted to.
The way I wanted to run myoffice was be more of a
lifestyle office to where ifsomeone came to my office or
like, I just want to be out ofpain, I wouldn't take them as a

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patient. I'd like you know what,that's chiropractic is not a
treatment, we the you know, wehad a script that they would
they would knew that my wife wasvery good explaining this. But
our front team, our front deskteam also had this where they
just be like, you know, ifyou're just looking to get out
of pain, we'll refer you tosomebody else. But if you're
looking to understand why it'sthere, and you want to work
through this, and so forth, thenwe're the office for you. And so

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what ended up happening was iswe started to shift gears and I
started to be like, I startedthinking to myself, well, if
someone's going to come to me,and they want to you know,
chiropractic is one of the mostmissed informed professions.
People think it's for neck pain,back pain and headaches. And I
blame some of the media I blamealso chiropractors on this. Some
people think it's good for youknow, treating digestive issues

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or colic babies and things likethat. But the thing is,
chiropractic doesn't treatanything, no symptom, illness,
disease or condition. So whenwe're looking at that
perspective, I was like, Well,how can I if I was gonna go to a
master martial or someone who'slike a master at something,
right? They're very well theygot 10 degree black belt in
something, you know. And if Iwent, Hey, I want to learn how

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to be like you or learn the yourway. So I can create my own and
what do I need to do? Andthey'll tell you, you got to do
this. This is okay, great. Well,I want to do half of that,
because I can only make thattime for that. So but I still
want to continue so can I beaccepted into your dojo? The
sensei is gonna look and go no,it's this is what you asked me
what it what it takes to gohere. This is what the path is.

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And what that was is just beingfor me it was more of like
having self worth itself, Iguess certainty with myself
having confidence in a way toknow that I can share that with
a patient and be like reallytruthful and honest. And I use
science to back it up to belike, here's what I know I can
do for you. So if you want myhelp, here's what I can do for

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you. And it was just beingtruthful. And I thought that it
wasn't before. But it was beingtruthful, and what mattered most
to me. And knowing that I canhelp them, because I like
results. And so when patientsfollow up care, and they get
amazing results, when we dopeople see our testimonies, I'm
always like, those are thepeople that follow up care.
Because people don't follow upcare, they don't get the results

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most of the time. And it wasjust starting to lead my life
and the what I want. And I endup finding out through this
process, I really had a passionto want to help solve and work
with kids. Kids is just a, youknow, 53% of kids have some sort
of chronic illness and you seeADHD, and autism rates and all
these other things. And that wasimportant to me. What I didn't
realize is when I dove into thatthere was a lot of inner healing

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I had to go through. Becausewith that opened up, I wanted to
help kids. But in reality, whatI didn't know at the time, it
was just the feeling I was goingwith. Later, when I look back,
what I really was doing was Iwanted to help heal me as a kid.
I didn't have chiropractic as akid, but I wish I did. And all
of a sudden that became that'swhen I talked about being
authentic. Like again, I wasjust dive deep into feelings I

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wasn't this was wasn't logicalwasn't a system of like is
there's chiropractors out there,like work with families, it's an
easy way to grow your practiceand blah, blah, blah. I wasn't
doing it for that I was doing itbecause it later on, I started
to realize like, I had a kid whohad like chronic chronic chronic
ear infections and stuff likethis. And I was and I remember
myself being that way. And I waslike, No, I knew exactly what I

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can do to help them I saw themom how stressed out she was.
And all of a sudden it was likeresolving and everything was
fine. And mom was just you seethe stress coming off them. And
I'm like, interesting. And I'mthinking about what I all the
other stuff I grew up and I'mlike, Man, am I this I really am
doing it more for me. Not from aselfish standpoint, but just
like, I don't want another kidto go through what I had to go
through. Because those are veryprimitive years of our life that

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really constructs our brain andour life in how we live and how
we respond to things. And sogoing through all this, it was
just one thing after another,but then it came to how many
hours do I want to work? And Ijust chose it. I was like I want
to make I want to work 1415hours a week. That's it. That's
my office hours. That's what I'madjusting. Some people were
like, Yeah, you can't do that.
Because you know what the peoplecan't fit in how you gonna have

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to be for families to work, Iget it. And I was like, This is
what I'm going to do. I have todo it. I have to test this out.
Because I'm not going to listen,anybody else, this is what I
want to do. And ended up yeah,we took a hit. Initially, when
we made the change three fourthsfour or five, six months later,
we were right back where we werein breaking records. And it was
one of those things. I was like,wow, this is all working. And
I'm like, Okay, what else isthere? Because my mind was just

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getting curious, like, what elsecan I change? What else can I
do? From from the elements ofwhat I'm questioning, because
I'm really just all I'm doingreally is just peeling a layer
off. It's okay, here's theconditioning, I'm getting rid of
that. Here's what this means tome appealing this layer off
conditioning, here's what thatmeans to me. And it was really
looking at my internal world andseeing what did I greatly like
what mattered most to me. And nomatter what, I saw it all

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working out. And it was allmeant, like I just I deep down,
I kept telling me I need to makethis change. And just let all
the listeners know, me doing allthose changes. I was changing
the way we directed our practiceus doing all that stuff. We took
a financial hit for that,because we were letting patients
go that didn't fit the fit thefit our office anymore. And it
was up to 40% hit, we took afinancial hit that was at the

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peak of how much we were lettinggo. I mean, for me, it was like
60 patients in a matter of likesix months. And it wasn't like
we're going oh, you're gone.
This is it. It was just, I wouldI had a conversation I bring up
to them. And I just say, Hey,listen, I know this will be been
How you been here, blah, blah,blah, and then they go, we kind
of have shifted gears. And Iwould like to be a little bit
more helping you get the resultsbased on the scans of the

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technology of what we're using.
And I want to make sure thatyou're moving in a direction
that is going to get you thoseresults. Well I feel great that
everything's been working. Iunderstand your feelings, but
and what you're saying, but youknow, here's this is the site,
this stuff here is going to tellus where you really are. Because
what you're doing is if you feelgreat, what is it going to be a
week, a month, six months, ayear, two years, if we're not
correcting the stuff properly,it's going to come back or it's

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gonna show up different. Andthen you're going to be in this
state again. And then whathappens I heard this before all
chiropractic doesn't work. Andit's like, no, chiropractic
works. So it was all this kindof stuff, reevaluating every
aspect of my business in life,what mattered to me, and then
just start living my life thatway. And I had a coach who
helped me with that. I rememberwhen I first started coaching
him is like, what's your what'syour ideal office hours? And I
told him, he's like, okay, whenwe started that, I was like,

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Well, what do you mean we'regonna start? He goes, No, when
we starting it, like you this iswhat you want. Why are you not
living the way you want? You runyour own business, why don't you
run your own business? And I waslike, yeah, so I get that. But
that was the journey a littlebit.
Thank you so much for sharingthat especially the the piece

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the transparency you're offeringaround the financial hit that
the shift created at leastmomentarily, right? Because I
think sometimes living by ourauthenticity and our deeper
truth, it becomes a bit of afilter. You know, I often say
like I either want to attract orrepel clients and the sacred

(25:19):
know that we get to have withsaying no to something that's
not a fit, that doesn't fit thenew template we've created. That
that's so empowering. But it's,I'm amazed at this, this piece
of your story where it's theworld of chiropractic care,
seems like such a microcosm anda mirror of what you what you

(25:42):
were actually doing in yourlife, right? It's like, the even
with the symptoms, it's no,we're not here to just alleviate
pain and symptoms, we're goingright to the root cause we're
going to the deeper realms ofemotion, energy and all of that.
And I don't know if this is truefor you. But I've found in

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rewriting a lot of these a lotof these beliefs, it's, you
know, similar to that, thatfinancial hit, it's almost like,
if you throw in the towel toosoon, you don't you don't get to
the the life that you'recreating, there's almost a lag
sometimes in the creationprocess until you get really

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good at it, I think. And thenit's even more synchronistic. So
I'm curious, what were some ofthose moments that maybe felt
disorienting, or moments whenyou could have thrown in the
towel? And how did you how didyou keep going with like when
the veil is dropping? You'rerealizing oh, my gosh, you know,

(26:46):
reality isn't what I thought itwas? What were some of those
those interesting moments alongthe way?
I mean, it was one of the onelike, when we I'll never forget
2016 That's the year. That wasour financial peak year. And I
remember four months later, youknow, my accountant reached out,
she's like, Hey, got some goodnews or bad news. And I was
like, okay, she was good news isyou made more money than we were

(27:08):
expecting. I was like, well, wedoubled the most of the year
before that. And she's like,Yeah, you grew like another 57%.
This year, you tripled in thelast two years. And I was like,
well, it's not a bad thing.
Because yeah, but there's a bigfat tax bill coming to you
because we didn't expect it. AndI was like, dang it. But when I
because then I really started tosee the numbers, but I was
already going to change thetransition, because we started
at the end of that year. But itwas because it was one of those

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things that like I literallythought I mean, like I said, I
said it before is I was like I'mjust tired of that pill. I'm
tired of the grind it because Iwas doing things that weren't
me, or what mattered most to me.
And I thought about it at onepoint, I was like, Maybe this
isn't for me, maybe I'm justdestined to go into something

(27:48):
else. Maybe Maybe that was, butI'm very intuitive. And I've
always trusted my feelings evenwhen logic can't understand it.
And I wasn't like this before. Iused to be like this as a kid.
And then around 12 years old, II, I wasn't fitting in being
that way. So I decided to letthat go to fit into my society
and my growing up. And it wasn'ttill I was 24 that I started to

(28:11):
come back to that place. And itwas just this, this feeling and
it feeling kept telling me no,just keep moving forward. This
is this is where you need to go.
And I was like, Okay, I'm gonnatrust it. I have no idea why I'm
trusting it. It was scary. Itwasn't easy. Because again, when
you're taking hits financially,like I remember when we were my
wife was like, how many morepatients are gonna, like, go and
like, I'm not doing this onpurpose, trust me, it's not like

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I just want to fire and destroythe business. I'm like, I'm just
the I'm having conversations.
And then we did it. We looked atour patients, and we said, who
was not really committing tocare the way we want them to.
And I started looking at theirscans and all the technology
that we use to evaluate stuff.
And I'm just like, yeah, thesepeople are stuck and not really
changing. And I was like, sowhen we hit the last one she's
like, is this that I'm like thisis that now we just got to

(28:54):
embrace where we are, and justhold, everything's gonna be
fine. We just got to hold theground now. And things will turn
around. And so But even youknow, at that point, it was more
when you have your wife onboard. My wife is the most
supportive person ever in myentire life. I mean, she's an
angel and a blessing. And she'smy rock. I mean, I love I
appreciate her so much. Becausethere's things that like even

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being I mean, I'll pick a talkabout this probably later, but
being my transition as a coachand having her support, and that
has been monumental in so manyways. But it's it's one of those
things where I do have to nevergive up mentality, mental
attitude. I've always, you know,it's one of those things where
no matter what the situation is,no matter what presents, I will

(29:36):
always move forward but you alsohave to understand it this this
was probably given to me growingup so I grew up in a very
stressful household, veryemotional ups and downs. I mean,
just a lot of that. And I had tolearn how to handle my own
emotions, and how to figurethings out my own way. And so
when it comes to things that arestressful, I look like I can

(29:58):
handle it, you'll see like youput me in a stressful situation
like you're very calm andcollected. And it's just like,
well, when you had that all yourlife growing up, you just, it's
just a norm. But I deal withstuff later. But that there was
a couple of times when I've hadhad other moments in my career
to where I thought aboutthrowing in the towel. There was
one time where when I firststarted a business was not
moving as fast as I needed itto. From a personal standpoint,

(30:20):
financially, not a businessmean, business wise, I was doing
well for starting up. But it wasin I remember, it was a it was
the lat it was it was a weekend,I'm going into the new week, and
I'm just praying like, I don'tknow how this money's gonna come
in. But I need this at leastthis much money to, to keep the
doors open for a little bit, orI'm have to close them. And, you
know, I took it all the way tothe it's like the last second

(30:42):
the last shot that you know ofthe game to win. I mean, that's
what it took me down to. But Ikept staying for with it because
I just told I'm like talking toGod universe is saying, This is
what I'm meant to be. I'mputting all my cards on the
table, I put in everything I gotto this, this is what it's meant
to be. It's somehow it's goingto work. That week, I had four
patients pay in full, which cameup to like 10, some odd $1,000.

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And I looked at it and myexpenses were so low, I looked I
go great business wise, I canstay open for at least six
months easily. And I was likethis is awesome. And then I was
like this is perfect. And I wasable to stay open. So I had
other experiences that kept memoving forward. That's what I'm
trying to bring up that paststory to understand. Like, I've
always I mean, I had anotherpoint, it was two years in my

(31:22):
career. I wasn't growing as fastas I wanted to. And I was really
annoying. And I kind of said ifI don't hit a certain point, I
don't know if maybe I'm I don'twant to get into some house. It
was like two years in and I wasjust like, we had good growth. I
mean, I doubled from year one toyear two, but it was like, not
again, financially, from apersonal standpoint, just
understand I had a lot ofstudent loans and banks were not
friendly at all about workingwith you because of what

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happened in 2008 2009. So theywere like, Nope, you pay full.
And that's it. And I'm like,great. I have a mortgage No, no
What heck the keys are to thehouse, I don't even know where
the house is. But I have apayment coming every month I
have to pay. And I was like, Iwish I had a house that I paid
at that price, because I wouldhave been a very nice house. So
there was those kinds of things.
But having those experiences andseeing them work through knowing

(32:08):
that make the change. I hadconfidence, though to know that
I would work out even thoughstill my brain was like, Is it
really worth it? Maybe we shouldthrow in the towel because
liquid and then but at the sametoken, there was an inner voice,
that little feeling that waslike no, take a look at this.
Take a look at this, let's andthen I just put on my I put all
my cards on that one and justsaid, here's where I'm gonna go
off. I've done this before in mylife, it worked out, I'm going

(32:29):
to do it again. And it did itwas amazing. And it worked out
way beyond what I could everimagine.
I mean, that's, that's the thingthat's at stake, right? It's
like, what if it does work out?
What if it is better? What if Ihave my health and I can live
life in, in my terms,essentially. And I think this
distinction that you're makingaround the feeling in your body

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versus what the mind will showup to say is so helpful, because
that inner chatter or that selftalk may still come up. But that
doesn't mean we have to alwayslisten to that or let the logic
brain be the leader all thetime. So I'm wondering, how do
you know, in your experience,how do you know what that what

(33:14):
that feeling? When it comes up?
And what that inner alignment isin the body? How do you know
it's happening? Because you'veyou seem to have developed an
amazing relationship to this,this trust and this confidence
that you've built through seeingthe evidence, essentially over
time of it working. But what'sthe felt experience in the body

(33:37):
for our listeners that you'rethat you're having?
So for me personally, it alwaysshows up between my my heart and
my stomach, and it's just a it'sa feeling that's very light.
It's like a butter like feelingit's very, it's like a childlike
energy to have sight ofexcitement. That's kind of what
I get. Now, we all havesomething within us that's like

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this. It's our it's our your,your your feelings are actually
what, and I don't mean I'mfeeling like I don't feel like
working out today. Or I feellike working out today that
that's not the feelings I'mtalking about. This is
intuition. We all have this.
It's a compass that guides us towhere we want to go. Right. So
what a lot of my work, you know,and this is where I started to
when I was in this process. Istarted to I started looking at

(34:21):
vision, and I was like, youknow, I had a vision before I
got away from it a little bit. Iwas focusing on goals. I'm like,
let me go back to vision. And Istarted looking back at stuff I
read before and stuff and I'mlike, Yeah, vision is where it
needs to be. And now I couldshare very strongly why that is
but it's you want to have thatthat where I wanted to take the
practice, right seeing I had animage in my head of seeing the
kids in the office, I saw momsbringing the kids I saw moms

(34:43):
cook hanging out, talking toeach other setting up
appointments close to eachother. And then going out on
dates. We had parks nearby sothat was like I saw them coming
here getting their adjustmentsand then going taking the kids
to the park and the moms hangout. Mom's doing data. I just
saw all this like a huge arrayEmily, and I was like, okay,
that's gonna happen. But when Icame back to then, you know, the
feeling how do I know that I'maligned with that? How am I alo

(35:07):
that I'm in that process isbecause I've, I've trained I've
developed and felt, where doesit show up for me when I'm in
alignment? Now everyone can dothis. So think of something that
you really love. Just picture itin your mind, whatever that is a
child, maybe it's your partner,maybe it's something love what
you love to do every single day.
Where does the work now feelyour body? What does it feel

(35:28):
like? Is it lighter? Is itheavier? You've Where do you
feel a sensation at? You know,and that's your guidance system
that will guide you in thisprocess. It's the same the other
way where you're not inalignment, or you're not in that
process, because think ofsomething you dislike, something
that you hate, you know,whatever that may be, or
something that gets your bloodboiling, right? What do you feel

(35:49):
like where your body tighteningup? Do you feel like there's
heaviness I call it like slimeor sludge. That's what I feel
like it just in my body getsreal sludgy like and I'm just
like, oh, I don't like that.
It's like muck, I want to getthis off me. And so when you
become aware of that, and thisis a training process, because
we all been able to do this atone point, and then we let it
all go. Because the eight,seven, this is when we start to

(36:09):
disconnect from that. You canbut when you get aware of that
you help the mind you let themind because the mind likes
control. But the mind has to beinvolved. So what I tell I teach
my clients, this is like, whenyou get that feeling, just tell
your mind, hey, when this showsup, thumbs up, let's move
forward. But when I feel thisother part, be aware and let me

(36:30):
know Hey, got that slime goingon again. And that's your job.
You cool with that mind mindset.
All right, great subconscious islike thumbs up once you
condition that. And then all ofa sudden, that becomes your
navigator. Now you don't have tothink anymore. You don't have to
figure things out anymore. It'sjust a feeling. Does it feel
good? Does it feel right? Doesit feel like you're centered.
And sometimes there's someemotions that come with this. In

(36:52):
my experience, in in looking atthis, it's usually going to be
bliss, joy, and you feel somecommerce or even peace. For me,
it always shows up. There's somejoy. It's like a little kid,
when I say a little kidexcitement, that's joy. And then
there's also a deep grounding.
Like, I just feel like reallycalm and centered it with that
feeling. It's not me, you may Italk very fast, as you can tell.

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So I may not show that I'm calmand centered and grounded in the
moment. But the feeling insideme is my heart. It just feels
nice, relaxed, everything'scalm. And I'm just like, that
feels right. I think we're justgoing to do that. And the more
I've done that in my life,things have worked out, even
when they don't look likebecause my mind will play games
on me to taking a 40% hit onyour business, when your

(37:37):
lifestyle didn't change.
Personally, your like, willstill be good. But man, this is
tight. It's a little tighterthan I like, but it's good,
we'll be fine. Right mines runin like crazy crate and all that
stress. But then it was like,but then I remember in my
meditations, I was always like,you're on the right path. You're
finally like, I would always betold like you're stepping into

(37:57):
your, your, your what you reallywant now, just just hold on to
that get through this point,things are going to turn around,
you will see it look in the pastthat happened before it happened
here. And so I was like, Okay, Ijust got to trust that even
more, because my mind needed itbecause it was playing games,
let me widen my mind neededbecause it was bringing up fears
and limiting beliefs that I had.
And so working through thatstuff and trusting it, and

(38:18):
helped me make that hugetransition to do
that. Yeah, it's Wow. It's Ilove how how simple on one level
this is and that anyone can doit. And I think we're all
running around navigating thisthing called life. And for many
of us who have thatentrepreneurial spirit, or that

(38:40):
connection to a vision as as aleader, this this practice of
just knowing your own body,knowing what what that compass,
as you called, it really feelslike and honoring this inner
guidance system, I think is soso powerful. And for a lot of
us, I think our inner guidancesystem has led us out of the

(39:03):
previous version of work or workculture. And because of the
movie, I think many of us havecome to think of it as leaving
the matrix. And you actuallyhave a book that came out called
decoding the matrix. So I wantto dive into this a bit because
the context of work is on itshead right now. I mean, this is

(39:25):
just changing. So so fast, thereis no going back, we you know,
we've moved already into thisthis new way. So what is the
matrix in in your definition?
And can you speak to this, thisshift or how we might be
conscious through the shift?
Yeah, so the the matrix is, youknow, another term for it is

(39:47):
just human collectiveconsciousness. And so when you
think of what's consciousness orconsciousness levels, it's it's
averaging every single human onthis planet, their thoughts, the
stories the words they use. Andthen their beliefs and feelings,
the emotions that they giveenergy to. So there's, there's a
plethora of stuff here that addsup. But it gives us a vibration
in essence of where we are andwhere we are at this

(40:09):
consciousness level or vibrationor frequency, things like that,
or energy level. And so when youaverage out the human humanity
of it, it becomes thisvibration. Now, it's not just
with humans, dogs have this intheir own matrix. I mean,
there's every specie has it theplanet has its solar system has
it, the universe has it. Butthere's also some matrixes
underneath it, that create thehuman sub matrix and are then

(40:31):
human matrix. And that is, thecontinents have their own
matrix, that matrix, then youhave countries, states, cities,
towns, and it comes all the waydown to the map micro, which is
you and me. And so this createsthe experiences of what all
humans go through. Right, so wehave COVID. Now COVID happened,
because were nama St. They'llfrom this one essence. But, you

(40:55):
know, from the humancollectiveness, there was some
vibe energy there that allowedfor something to happen. It just
happened to be COVID. I'm notsaying that it was because of
that was COVID. It just openedthe door for some like that,
because or it could be, youknow, look at look at how
endangered species we have. Now,how many are going extinct? Or
look at the difference? Right?
So then the when we look at thematrix, it's at a level and this
comes from the work of Dr. DavidHawkins book, power versus

(41:17):
force, where he talks aboutconsciousness levels, and he
says that, you know, whenhumanity has been under life
supporting or supporting life,in other words, so what does
that mean is that we don'tsupport life? That's why look at
diseases and illnesses, are theygoing up? Are they going down?
You look at look at our oceans,are they getting cleaner or
dirty or look at our rivers, youknow, you start to see this this
whole thing? Well, this alsohappens in you know, when we

(41:39):
look at business, or look at theconstructs of life, or how to
become successful, or what isthe main essence of that, what's
the main conditioning, and thatconditions and frames our mind.
And that starts to thencondition us in some way, like I
was conditioned about being, youknow, when it came to being
successful chiropractor. ButI've also been conditioned as
where I grew up, I grew up inChicago, Illinois, a small town

(42:00):
called Murrells. Park at thetime, it was very Italian
American community. And sothere's there's conditioning and
constructs from there, that Ihave, that's why people from
Chicago versus Florida, youknow, from let's say, Orlando,
or somewhere in Los Angeles, youever notice they're a little
different, they're not all thesame. And there's there's that
that sub matrix is playing arole on our conditioning and

(42:22):
think what life is and how lifeis the constructs of it. And so
in the matrix, I sounds like I'mmaking seem like the matrix is
bad, but it's not it's not goodnor bad. It just is, what the
matrix does is it gives aframework for us to have an
experience in this life. But atthe same token, it also if we
don't set the intention of ourlife and our vibration in our

(42:43):
conscious level, where we wantto be, the matrix pulls you down
to be average. That's the designof it. This is called the law of
association. We've all heardthis when it comes to especially
in business where it's like thefive closest people do you
average them out that you or theyou take the incomes of the five
closest people to you, youaverage out, that's pretty much
where your income is. And so butthe law of association also

(43:03):
works this way. And so ifyou're, if you're not setting
the tone for yourself, you'rebeing pulled back into the
matrix into the conditioninginto the average experience. And
that's why in most people,because 95% of our life is
dictated dictated by oursubconscious mind. Most of us
don't even realize we're in thematrix and stuck in it. We don't
we think this is what it is. Andwe think we're pressing for it,

(43:24):
this was me, thought I waspressing for thought I was doing
all I was supposed to do, right,based on everyone else, I would
say when you say something likeI shouldn't be doing this, or I
shouldn't be having this or Ishouldn't be doing something
like that. That's conditioning,you when you start to become
aware of that, and follow that.
It's not you talking because youdon't tell yourself, I shouldn't
be doing this, you never saythat. It's always someone else's

(43:46):
opinion, or whatever thecommonality of the condition you
grew up in, that's theconditioning that says, well,
that's how it should be. Nothingis except what you want it to
be. And so this is where we canstart to you can say step out of
the matrix or not let the matrixinfluence you. And now all of a
sudden, you have a vastlydifferent experience than what
humanity goes through. And youstart to you start to you know,

(44:06):
you the drum at your own beatbeat at your own drum here, your
beat at your own drum. And thesense and there's there's
there's a lot of you know,there's a couple of things out
there. Well, especially inbusiness look at in my book, I
share how billionaires duringCOVID, right, small businesses
getting smashed, but you know,the business world is not doing
well. But yet again,billionaires grew their net
worth by 56%, which was over$600 billion. Right? But let's

(44:29):
let's not use that as anexample. Let's go take it one
step further. There's one timein the United States history
that had the most millionairesproduced out of any time in the
history, history in the GreatDepression. And when you think
about that for a second, youlook and you go, Well, how'd
that happen? Hold on, everybodywas suffering. Well, there were
people that were suffering, butthen there's people that said,
I'm gonna, I'm going to take astep and stuff and I'm gonna

(44:51):
focus on what I want to createfor myself. Not let this
influence me, not be conditionedin any way, shape, or form. And
I'm gonna step out of that. Justlike right now everyone's
talking about recession. In allthe doom and gloom, all this
other stuff, and I warn people,I tell them, Don't feed into it,
what you focus on was whatexpands. You don't have to have
that experience. I'm not sayingthat ignoring, you're not you
don't ignore what's happeninglike don't, but what I'm saying

(45:13):
is just put energy to what youwant to create for yourself and
forget the rest. I mean, Istarted my chiropractic business
during right after I graduatedin 2009. September, so it was
almost a year after October2008. At that time, before that
debt to that all happened, Icould have just walked into any
bank, I'm a doctor, I want toget a loan, here's my business

(45:33):
plan, and the money, whatever Iwant, when it came to me, why,
because they know where adoctor, they're gonna most
likely time you're going to besuccessful in some way. That was
not happening for me, they wouldnot allow that allow it at all.
And so but at the same token,you know, I had chiropractors at
the time telling me, you need towork with groups, that's where
it's at. Now, people don't wanttheir own anymore, doesn't that
I was like, Man, that's yourlimiting belief. I'm not gonna

(45:53):
take your belief system andtaking it as mine, I'm going to
I'm going to choose my own path.
And I did, I wouldn't say it wasall sunshine and rainbows, but
it worked. And it continued to.
So that's kind of the matrix,how we step out of it, and how
it kind of plays a role on us.
Amazing, yeah, it worked. And atleast it's yours, right? It's,
I'm so resonating with whatyou're saying about context. And

(46:20):
being in the energy of oursurroundings, whether it's a
geographic place, or a workculture, or family norms, or
whatever it might be. That's,that's going into the
conditioning. What I love aboutwhat you're saying is that it
sounds like we have a choice, weonce we have that conscious
awareness, we have a choice ofwhere to focus, that

(46:40):
consciousness, and thereforewhat we start to call in. And I
think this in and of itself isso empowering to get to choose
what, what we consume what weattune ourselves to. And I think
I think the last question that Ireally want to dive into here is

(47:01):
when it comes to consciousleadership, for for those of us
who are stepping into the theconscious, creator role,
essentially, through ourbusinesses, and through the
templates that we choose for ourlives, how do you relate to the
idea of responsibility now?
Like, do you feel a greatersense of responsibility now that
you know you create your ownreality? And like, what can we

(47:23):
be doing as conscious leaders?
Given this, this knowledgecoming out of quantum physics
and all of this?
Yeah, I mean, sometimes it'skind of daunting when you're
like, 100% of your life is youand that's it, you're 100% up.
But at the same token, that'salso very empowering. Because
now I have a choice. I canchoose, right? Because every day

(47:46):
of our life we're creating,you're always creating, you
know, some people say, well, lawof manifestation or law of
attraction, and all this stuffdoesn't work. And I say, yeah,
it does. But yeah, but look, Iwanted this and it didn't
happen. I said, Yeah, but whatdid you attract? And they're
like, Yeah, but I'm like, holdon, let's own responsibility.
Let's let's really own that. Soit always works. It's gonna
mean, it's been shown evenquantum physics of what you see

(48:07):
how you see something. And whatit becomes, what you focus on is
what's going to expand. So inwhat you focus on what you're
looking for, it's going to bethere. And so it's like, if
you're stuck in thinking thingsthat are not at a certain level,
I mean, this is stuff that Ialways say, like this, this,
this stuff I teach, I'm like,it's very simple, it's not easy.
Imagine you have to monitor allyour thoughts, by minute by

(48:27):
minute, making sure that you'rekeeping it aligned to where you
want to go. That's, that's, thattakes some work, and it's gonna
be exhausting. But once youstart to wire that into the
brain, you get into thesubconscious to be your detector
for that now, that's again, thenyou don't have to worry about
anymore. Now that's the secretto be having effortless success
in some ways of how I sharethat. But when it comes to then,

(48:48):
when you know these things, andbeing in this level and playing
in this game, you set a tone anda vibe. And so like when I came
out of chiropractic school, thebiggest flaw I had, when it came
out and chiropractors do this,sometimes we want to heal the
world. I'm gonna go out and healthe world that said, doing
mentality. And when I started todive into this type of work
more, I remember I was in ameditation one time and I

(49:08):
started laughing and they'relike, you want to heal the
world? Hmm, you think you're Mr.
Superman, I'm going to heal theworld. And whatever is speaking
to me at that time is mythoughts, my head, whatever it
is, but I laughed, I was like,Oh, my God, I see what you're
saying. And their show, and Iwas getting into representation
of showing, like, how I feltlike a ripple effect of water
dropping, and I saw ripple. Andthey're like, that's how you
heal the world. And what thedrop was, was me. And I was

(49:31):
like, Oh, my God, I have tofocus on me. Because then I
become that person who is at adifferent vibration. And then
the people around me, the rippleeffect is I help liberate them
to give them the opportunity tohave the same experience I had
doesn't mean it's gonna happen,but at least that given they're
going to have that opportunityunconsciously. And so then I was
like, that's where the the wholeconcept came. So when it comes

(49:53):
to like healing the world, orimproving the energy to
collective and raising thematrix to higher levels, it
comes out At the end of the day,how we're showing up, how are we
living our truth? How are weliving to our potential. And as
a leader, the key is just makingsure your shirt your beard,
you're setting the tone foryourself to be the best version
of you every single day,supporting yourself focusing on
your thoughts, right? The firstthing is thoughts. Where are you

(50:14):
putting your energy to where youshould focus going? Right? What
are you thinking? Becausethoughts? Here's the you have 50
to 70,000 thoughts a day. Youcan't monitor all your thoughts
there. But what you do do isyou're going to focus on certain
ones. And so where are youfocusing the energy to? Then the
second is your words, your wordsare going to be what you know,
we call them when you spell outa word, you know, sometimes the
word spell, it's calledspelling, you're casting a

(50:37):
spell. That's what spells are,they're just words. You're
casting literally a spellabracadabra, this is nice to
share a little bit about, youknow that word abracadabra means
I, I speak I create. And so whenyou're speaking in words, you
bind them into when you blendwords together, that's a story.
When you blend stories, wordshave a vibration when you put
the story together. Now, that'sanother vibration all of a

(50:58):
sudden, you're creating avibration with the story. Does
that story make you feel good ornot feel good. Again, focusing
on the higher end of that stuff,because you are in control your
life creating every single day,do you believe what your story
is telling you is true? If youbelieve it, whatever you believe
is going to be true. But youhave to really believe that. And
then of course, the energy isthe emotions behind it, because
that's the generator that helpsit all. So that process right

(51:19):
there, monitoring that, then allof a sudden, you are showing up
in creating the life that youdesire, in every aspect, not
just in business, not just as aleader, because you gotta again,
define things. What does itmean? Like what's a leader to
you? Right? What's leadershipmean to you? What does being a
husband or wife mean to you?

(51:39):
What does you want it to findevery single construct? Because
the problem is, if you're notdoing that, you are getting
conditioned and falling intowhatever the matrix and all
everyone else thinks it is. Yousee, and that's how we have to
take some people, this is a lotof work. Well, no one ever
taught us this, it would havebeen a lot easier if we were
taught this as kids. But we'renot taught these things. And
this is how and I think at somepoint in time, you're eons ago,

(52:02):
maybe 1000 2003 4000 years agoor something. I think this was
the way we think you definedwhat what this meant to you. And
in reality, we live in a worldtoday where it's all about No,
this is what that means. No, no,no, no, no. That's what it means
maybe to what you want toaccept. That doesn't mean that
to me, if I say the word lazy,some people look at that as a
negative word. But for someothers, they look I was I had
someone I was interviewing, andthey brought up that they're

(52:23):
like, lazy and I was like, thatcan be looked at it one or two
ways. And they're like, Yeah, Isee lazy as self care. I see
lazy as this. And I'm like, Ilove that because you're
defining what that means to you.
So looking at your life, knowingthis stuff, when you start to
define it, and you build a storyaround that you believe in that
story. And whatever that may be,then you put you have that vibe

(52:43):
that comes? That's livingconsciously. That's living every
single moment of your lifeconsciously. And yes, in the
beginning, it's not fun. I tellmy clients this all the time.
But you can the wiring process,when you get that into the
subconscious mind. It takes afew months. But once you do
that, then you don't have tothink about it anymore, then it
just automatically happens.

(53:05):
The ultimate investment in selfright there itself and life.
Wow, Vic, this has been profoundon so many levels. I feel like
as someone who's been studyinglaw of attraction since I was
18, this is maybe the bestdescription and steps I've ever
heard when it comes tomanifesting. And I just love

(53:29):
what you're saying aboutstarting with self starting with
what's true. And really thatthere's a component of self
leadership that that gets to bethe prerequisite for showing up
as a conscious leader in theworld redefining all of these
all of these paradigms, all ofthese definitions of success,
health, whatever it may be. Sothank you so much for sharing

(53:53):
your wisdom. I'm, I'm stillsoaking it in and if people want
to find you read more about yourwork where's the best place for
them to connect with you?
Yeah, my websites my hub, it'swww dot empower your reality
that calm. I have a free ebookon the power of visualization,
you can get access to my bookdecoding the matrix, it'll sink

(54:15):
you the Amazon. And if thisresonates with you from a
coaching perspective on learnhow to master you know your
mindset and all these kinds ofthings, I do a free call on that
to learn more about you to seeif I am the person who can help
you and then if you qualify intomy program, and if you want to
connect on social media, I'm onFacebook, Instagram, LinkedIn,
and Tik Tok. You'll find that atthe bottom left of the website,

(54:37):
any questions reach out I lovehearing from people.
Excellent. Thank you again, Vic.
I'm excited to read decoding thematrix. It feels so up for my
own life right now. And I justcan't thank you enough.
No, thank you for having me on.
I really enjoyed this wonderfulquestions. Love the flow, loved
your energy and I really justenjoyed our conversation.
Thank you so much. The innerwork is often the hardest work,

(55:02):
but it is the work required forlasting change and healthier
future for us all. If you foundthe show valuable, please leave
a review and subscribe. You canalso take a deeper dive with me
at Nicole bellisle.com. Thanksagain for being here and showing
up for your new self. Yourfuture self was certainly thank
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