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Jana Shelfer (00:00):
Are you ready to
create a life you crave?
Let's spin that doom loop ofnegativity into an upward
success cycle and start LivingLucky®.
Good morning.
I'm Jana, I'm Jason and we areLiving Lucky®.
You are, too.
Jason just got back from hisDream Builders meeting.
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This is a group of men thatmeet and they talk about their
dreams.
Yes, what a great club to be apart of.
Jason Shelfer (00:29):
It is.
It's about 20 guys and we meetonce a month.
It's 20 leaders in thecommunity and we just talk about
our goals, our dreams and howwe want to change the world.
One of the biggest takeawaysthat you came away with this
morning is yeah and this has hitme a couple of times and I work
with my clients on this isDonnie was talking about how his
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mentor said hey, donnie,oftentimes you set goals that
you can clearly visualize andyou can clearly see yourself
being successful at, which makesthese success points in life
feel easier to attain.
Yes, and his mentor said whatif you set a goal so audacious
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and so big that you had no ideahow to even envision the
successful completion of it?
Jana Shelfer (01:18):
Which I believe is
my problem.
Jason Shelfer (01:22):
It can be a
double-edged sword, right
problem.
Jana Shelfer (01:29):
It can be a
double-edged sword, right I?
When you told me this, Ithought I have wildly improbable
goals.
I call them my wigs, yeah, andI change wigs literally like
every six months.
I'm like, oh yeah, I think I'llbe a world record ski holder,
right, well, I think I'll be aballroom dancer but the thing is
, on the journey to these things, you expand so much and you
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grow so much I do, but almost tothe point where I sometimes
don't know what my genius isanymore.
I mean, as of last night, I wason my way to be the next
stand-up comedian.
And literally this morning Iwas texting my dad and we have
this really great story that isin our ancestral.
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Is it about the murder?
Jason Shelfer (02:15):
Yes.
Jana Shelfer (02:15):
How did I?
Guess it, there was a murder inour family generations ago, and
the more that I learn aboutthis story, the more I'm like.
This is a John Grisham novelwhich is ready to be made into a
movie, and maybe that's mypurpose in life.
Jason Shelfer (02:33):
It fascinates me
that I was able to guess the
story without having discussedthis with you.
Jana Shelfer (02:37):
Okay, so as of
this morning, I was going to be
a novel writer and movieproducer.
Jason Shelfer (02:44):
Well, so I think
about a lot, some of your wildly
improbable goals, your wigs,and think about all the growth
that you've had and all thethings that you could put in a
story, because you have doneamazing things that people
probably wouldn't believe.
And it's about that journey.
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Like you, you could be the nextum who was it?
Mark Twain?
Like you could be, you could bethe next biggest storyteller in
the world because you've doneso much and it's because you've
been on this journey towardsthese wildly improbable goals.
Jana Shelfer (03:26):
I'm telling you,
Jason, thank you for saying that
.
However and it's almost becomemy way of life is to set these
goals where I have no idea howthat's going to happen.
I mean, there's been times whenI'm like I'm the next Frida
Kahlo, I'm going to become anartist, and then I start
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decorating my chair and I'm like, oh, I should apply for Make it
Work.
You know that show, ProjectRunway, and so what I'm trying
to say is that sometimes itworks against me.
Jason Shelfer (04:02):
So in that case,
what I see happening from being
objective and not being in thatin the goal is that we look at
what's not happening instead ofwhat has happened.
Jana Shelfer (04:14):
Right, because
when you say it like that, I
look back at these last fiveyears and it has been really
incredible.
Jason Shelfer (04:23):
Exactly.
What has all developed andthat's where, when I see you
doing your gratitude journalsand also when I see you go back
to your gratitude journals, Isee you grow Like, I see you sit
up straighter, I see you beingthe person that you are.
Does that make sense?
Jana Shelfer (04:43):
And why do?
Oh, that's so great.
Sometimes I feel like if youever just want a little inner
confidence, hire Jason, even forjust one life coaching session.
I will say I think a lot of mysuccess is because you are
constantly fueling my rocket.
Jason Shelfer (05:06):
So I thank you
for that.
The natural tendency is, whenwe set these big goals, or even
when we set small goals, is torecognize how we're not
achieving.
That's our natural tendencybecause we have this invisible
line, like it's a am I measuringup to?
Am I, am I successful, am I notsuccessful, have I achieved,
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have I not achieved?
And when we can erase that lineand recognize how we're moving
towards it and how what we'vegained, there's a, there's a
different dynamic there in whatwe perceive ourselves as.
Jana Shelfer (05:39):
Okay.
So Donnie, in your DreamBuilders group this morning he
said his mentor has challengedhim to start setting goals where
they're just so wildlyaudacious that he has a hard
time imagining the successfulcompletion of them, like even
what it looks like.
Jason Shelfer (05:59):
And so one of the
biggest things in life is we
don't recognize the boundariesthat we are.
Jana Shelfer (06:06):
We subconsciously
even put on our imaginations
Ding, ding, ding ding.
Jason Shelfer (06:13):
This happened to
me when, when I watched you do
the underwater therapy.
Jana Shelfer (06:17):
Yeah, that's true.
Jason Shelfer (06:19):
So we've been
together for 21 years and I
never imagined seeing you moveyour legs the way you moved your
legs in underwater.
So it broke me.
It broke me emotionally becauseI was seeing things that my
brain could not imagine.
Jana Shelfer (06:34):
That is true.
Jason Shelfer (06:36):
And when my brain
imagined your legs moving like
that, it opened up a whole newworld of possibilities.
So if we can find ways tostretch our imagination by
setting these goals that wecan't envision currently, then
we get to figure out where theseboundaries on our imagination
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are and then just explore beyond, because there's always a new
horizon, there's always a way tolove more, there's always a way
to do more or be more orexperience more, and it's
finding what we want toexperience, the better part of
it, instead of what we're notexperiencing or what we're not
achieving better part of it,instead of what we're not
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experiencing or what we're notachieving.
Jana Shelfer (07:18):
So, donnie in your
group, has he tried this yet
and has he seen results?
Jason Shelfer (07:28):
So he didn't
share.
He said it's been a lifechanger.
He didn't share exactly whatthe life changes were, but he
said that the expansion thathe's experienced on the journey
towards this.
He didn't name the goal, but hesaid, just by exploring where
his imagination ended, it'schanged everything.
And I see that with my clientsas well, I see that with myself
and it's hard to imagine wheredoes my imagination end?
Jana Shelfer (07:53):
But I also I don't
want to cockblock you in any
way.
However, I want to say that Ido feel that I live this way.
Jason Shelfer (08:02):
I do feel this is
part of my DNA.
It is.
Jana Shelfer (08:05):
I also will say
there are other challenges that
arise and develop when you dothis, because you don't always
see things come to fruition.
Jason Shelfer (08:19):
Yeah, well, it's,
and that's because we start.
That's because we can't seethat.
So it's easy to plan a roadtrip when you know your
destination, right, yes, sothat's that's like.
Okay, I can plan.
I need gas every certain numberof miles.
If I had a roadblock, I stillknow that there might be other
roads to get there.
If you don't know yourdestination and it's somewhere
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out in the distance, then it'sjust okay.
Well, now I have to just lovebeing on the road.
Jana Shelfer (08:49):
I will say the one
time that you have completely
blown me over with your wildlyimprobable goal, which maybe we
should call it a wildlyaudacious goal a wag instead of
a wig.
Jason Shelfer (09:06):
If you have the
wig, I'll have the wag.
Jana Shelfer (09:08):
Because when we
were working with one of our
first life coaches that we hadtogether, we went on a weekend
retreat with her in.
Tennessee and she had uswriting out our centennial
speech, which is when we're 100years old and how you look back
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and say how great your life was.
You look back and say how greatyour life was and you wrote in
there that you were so proud ofyourself for donating $100
million and I literally chokedon what I was drinking when you
said that who do you think youare?
No, not that, but I'm like.
Wait, I share a bank accountwith you.
How are we going to donate $100million, however?
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Well, look at us now.
I mean we, just we.
Jason Shelfer (09:57):
We raised 750 000
for wheelchairs in the past two
years and we've already givenaway five over 550 wheelchairs
to people that need them.
Jana Shelfer (10:09):
So I mean we're in
the process, like we're on this
journey out loud, and theymight start becoming real.
Jason Shelfer (10:16):
They do start
becoming real because when, when
you create the, when you createthe dream and it's outside of
your being able to fathom howit's going to come true, that is
putting a destination out there.
So that is so.
You've just expanded yourimagination by saying I'm going
to put it out there.
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Now I get to get curious aboutthe how, and then I get to bring
people into this atmospherethat may see a different route
than I can see, and then theyget to pour into me or give
suggestions, or my reticularactivating system just picks up
on things.
Nothing that is here today washere.
I mean, everything that washere today was here a hundred
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thousand years ago or a thousandyears ago.
It's just we found a differentway to make use of it or a
different way to be resourceful.
Does that make sense?
So, whatever it is I want, Ican get.
I just have to find theresources to get to it.
Jana Shelfer (11:15):
I also think,
finding the who.
Yeah, I know that weconsciously want to search for
the how on how to get there.
However, I have found, if youset a wildly audacious goal, a
wag, then I feel, if you findthe who, someone else who has
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accomplished that route or thatgoal or that, journey, seeing
something on their journeytowards that route.
Then it's easier to say well,if they can do it, I can do it,
why not me?
Jason Shelfer (11:51):
Nothing happens
in a vacuum.
Yes, it's crazy.
That's why I love the wholeLiving Lucky® thing.
It's.
Believe in yourself.
So set that goal as far out asyou want, like way beyond your
imaginative capacity.
Then believe in the peoplearound you.
Also, believe in yourcircumstances and believe that
the higher power is working inyour favor to help you get there
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and then just enjoy the journeyalong the way.
Jana Shelfer (12:16):
It's really just
believe.
It is, it really is, and that'snot in a religious sense, it's
a belief, it's just a life sense, it is.
It is Walk in confidence andfaith, confidence and faith and
just let it happen.
Jason Shelfer (12:33):
I think that sums
it up.
Jana Shelfer (12:34):
Ding, ding ding.
Jason Shelfer (12:36):
Thanks for
joining us.
Get crazy with your imagination.
Keep Living Lucky®.
Jana Shelfer (12:39):
Get a wag or a wig
or whatever you want to call it
.
Wag your wig, bye-bye.
Take care.
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