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July 30, 2025 14 mins

Mind Games: Unlock Your Intuition & Master the Art of Noticing the Unnoticeable (Living Lucky® Podcast)

Ever been amazed by a mentalist's ability to "read minds"? On this captivating Living Lucky® Podcast episode, Jason and Jana Banana dive deep into the secrets behind the illusion after Jason’s incredible on-stage experience with a mentalist. Discover how seemingly supernatural feats are rooted in the power of observation, neuro-linguistic programming (NLP), and a heightened awareness you can cultivate!

We reveal the fascinating techniques mentalists use: from reading subtle micro-expressions and breath patterns to employing specific word choices that unconsciously influence decisions. Learn how a simple phrase like "pick a number between one and six" can subtly guide your choice. This isn't just about stage magic; it's a profound lesson in how our minds work and how we can tap into our own hidden potential.

The real game-changer? Your intuition. That "gut feeling" is your subconscious mind processing these same subtle cues that mentalists train to recognize. Find out how our tendency to override these intuitive nudges with rational thought or people-pleasing can lead us astray. This episode is your guide to trusting your inner voice and challenging limiting beliefs about your own capabilities.

This isn't just entertainment; it's a powerful self-help journey to enhanced personal development. By actively practicing to "notice the unnoticeable," you'll unlock a world of previously invisible information and discover an abundance you didn't realize existed. Learn to recognize the resources available to you, cultivate a positive mindset, and fundamentally transform your experience of reality.

Ready to sharpen your awareness, trust your gut, and Live Lucky® by seeing the world with new eyes? Tune in and start playing the ultimate mind game – mastering your own perception!

How do mentalists read minds? The power of intuition in decision-making. Understanding micro-expressions and body language. How neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) works. Developing greater self-awareness. Trusting your gut feeling in life. Overcoming people-pleasing tendencies. Finding hidden resources for success. Benefits of heightened observation skills. What is neuro-linguistic programming (NLP)? How do mentalists influence choices? What are micro-expressions? How

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Jana Shelfer (00:00):
Are you ready to create a life you crave?
Let's spin that doom loop ofnegativity into an upward
success cycle and start LivingLucky®.
Good morning.
I'm Jana, I'm Jason and we areLiving Lucky® you are too.
Jason went to see a mentalistlast night.

(00:22):
I got mental problems no notthat we are at the Belleville
Republic County Fair and ofcourse every night they have
different entertainment.
Last night it was the mentalist, which I always find mentalists
to be very intriguing.

Jason Shelfer (00:40):
They fascinate me .

Jana Shelfer (00:41):
And you got called up on stage.

Jason Shelfer (00:43):
I did get called up on stage and I was like
there's no way he's going to getme.
And did he?
Well, he did, yeah, and therewere so many amazing little
tricks that he went through andstories that he told that
created this long narrative ofthings just actually happening

(01:03):
right in front of your eyes.

Jana Shelfer (01:04):
So you just cannot believe.
Yeah, he literally is creatinghappening right in front of your
eyes.
So you just cannot believe.
Yeah, he literally is creatingLiving Lucky® in front of you.

Jason Shelfer (01:10):
Yeah, the whole thing culminated in a lottery
ticket that had numbers that thecrowd had actually picked out,
but he had bought the ticket.

Jana Shelfer (01:18):
Previously.

Jason Shelfer (01:19):
Seven hours before the show which just blew
my mind.

Jana Shelfer (01:23):
However, he somehow convinced the audience
to pick these numbers, but wedon't know how he does that.

Jason Shelfer (01:30):
It was either that or he had somehow a bunch
of lottery tickets, whichdoesn't seem plausible or
possible.
I don't know how he got therebecause literally he just gives
you a deck of cards with 30numbers in it.
He gave six people this deck ofcards with 30 numbers in each
deck and said pull out a cardthat you want to pull out.

(01:54):
Like, look through them and youpick your card.
And it was like, okay, we allpicked out our number.

Jana Shelfer (02:01):
Yes.

Jason Shelfer (02:02):
And I was the quote unquote lucky crowd member
.

Jana Shelfer (02:06):
Of course you were .
You were all decked out in yourlucky hat.

Jason Shelfer (02:08):
I had my Living Lucky® hat, yeah, and so I
picked the Powerball number,okay, and then he goes through
and he and you picked 13.
I did.

Jana Shelfer (02:17):
Because you don't normally pick 13.
And we sometimes think that 13is not a lucky number.

Jason Shelfer (02:27):
Well, I was so in my mind I was like, okay, jason
, friday, the 13th lucky number.
Some people would say 13 is alucky number, some people would
say it's not, and I wanted topick something that I thought
was not obvious but was stillhad meaning for me You're
playing reverse, reversepsychology.

Jana Shelfer (02:46):
My whole point today is that the mentalist
notices the small things.
It's what you pay attention to.

Jason Shelfer (02:54):
Yes.
And the crowd doesn't, becausethere has to be a way it's
happening outside, like withmicro expressions that he's the
mentalist is picking up on, andwith the words that he's using
to create his own reality, andthe crowd is not picking up on
it.

Jana Shelfer (03:12):
So he can simply say you know Powerball number,
make sure you don't pick number13, because that's the unlucky
number.
And then all of a sudden you'relike I'm going to pick number
13.
Something like that, exactly.

Jason Shelfer (03:24):
It's NLP, not so obvious, right, but it is just
like that and we can start.
And this just goes to show howyou literally can create your
own reality.

Jana Shelfer (03:37):
So he's using NLP.

Jason Shelfer (03:39):
He's using NLP, he's reading micro expressions.
He would notice when someoneholds their breath for a moment,
just a moment, out of the norm.

Jana Shelfer (03:48):
So he can probably tell when you're telling the
truth or when you're fudgingjust slightly.

Jason Shelfer (03:53):
Yeah, or just those little things that say,
okay, things might be differentthan what I'm telling you.
I might be exaggerating alittle bit here or holding back
a little bit here, and I thinkthat there's a lot of training
that goes on in this.
We've done this for the last 10, 12 years of going through.

(04:14):
How do we exact our mindset towork for us, work for us.

Jana Shelfer (04:19):
Another thing that happened is that I didn't go
with you, Right?
So when you got there, you satwith my best friend, Marcy, and
both of you were called up onstage.
Yes, and Marcy happens to.
They ask who are you here with?
And she says oh, my kids and mybest friend's husband.
Now, what you forget is this isa small town that's going to

(04:41):
spread very quickly.
That will probably make theBelleville telescope Right.

Jason Shelfer (04:45):
Marcy Bauman shows up with best friend's
husband to the fair.

Jana Shelfer (04:48):
Yeah, like this is not good, Nefarious.
So I guess what we're talkingabout today is noticing the
unnoticeable.
That's so yeah, and when youtrain yourself to do it, it
almost seems obvious, but toother people it blows their mind

(05:08):
.

Jason Shelfer (05:09):
It blows their mind.
I think a lot of people look atus and it blows their mind the
things that we do and the thingsthat we accomplish.
And it's because it's notnecessarily that we're noticing
the unnoticeable, but we aredefinitely noticing our thoughts
, noticing our feelings.
We're getting curious aboutthose and then we get to adjust

(05:29):
our actions or responses to lifeand how we show up in it.

Jana Shelfer (05:35):
Okay.
So my question is now that youcame home with the lucky lottery
ticket, what do you think theoutcome of this is going to be?
I mean, if he is really amentalist, you think maybe-.

Jason Shelfer (05:46):
Why not just go ahead and give me the winning
numbers?
Then it'd have to be a two-partshow.

Jana Shelfer (05:54):
I know that I'm definitely going to check this,
even if we have to drive toNebraska to do it.

Jason Shelfer (05:59):
This is one of those things where I remember we
got a Powerball ticket when itwas like $400 million or
something like that.
Yeah, we got a Powerball ticket.
I think it was in Arkansas.
Okay, and then when I got backto Florida, I tried to check and
they're like oh, this is anArkansas Powerball, you got to
check it in.

Jana Shelfer (06:15):
Arkansas, so you have to go to the state.
Yeah, okay go to the state.
Yeah, okay, so we're going tomake a point to drive to
Nebraska.

Jason Shelfer (06:21):
Or we might do it alone, so we can check this.
We can do it old school anddrive there.
It's only what, 10 miles fromhere.

Jana Shelfer (06:29):
Okay.
So question After going to thatlast night, do you feel like
are you going to change the wayyou think, act, react, notice
awareness.

Jason Shelfer (06:40):
I'm going to continue on the path that we're
on, which is noticing the smallthings, being grateful for the
small things, raise my gratitudelevel and then also just say
what else might be.

Jana Shelfer (06:55):
So this for me, leads to intuition, me leads to
intuition.
And I know that you said thementalist looks at your micro
expressions and whatnot, but forme sometimes there's just a gut
feeling.

Jason Shelfer (07:09):
Yeah, and it's just a very like a spark of a
gut feeling sometimes and youlearn to trust it because the
more you trust it then, the morethat that intuition starts
really speaking to you.
Yeah, I can't think of how manytimes in the past where someone
asked me to do something and Iwould notice my gut intuition
and be like you're overbookedright now.

(07:31):
Just say no, and then I wouldsay you know what, let me think
about it.
And I would think for just abrief second and I would say,
okay, I can do that, I can fitit in Because you're trying to
please people.
Yes, If I just listened to mygut expression and recognize
that little spark, I would havesaid you know what?
I am overbooked right now.
I'm building somethingparticular and this isn't the

(07:56):
right space and time for me towork with that or with you on
that time for me to work withthat.
Yeah, or with you on that, butgood luck and I might be able to
help you out in the future,because there's a way to say no.
I don't have to explain myself.
I just need to say that doesn'tfit into my what I'm working on
right now.

Jana Shelfer (08:16):
Yeah.

Jason Shelfer (08:17):
But I wish you the best of luck.

Jana Shelfer (08:18):
And sometimes our intuition is speaking because of
a micro facial expression orbecause of, you know, something
that we notice, that maybe we'renot conscious of.

Jason Shelfer (08:33):
Yeah, Like, how many times have we gotten into
it?
Or has someone gotten into abad deal when they it sounded
really good?
But their gut expression waslike, hey, this, this might be
too good or this might bedifferent than what I'm
picturing.
And they just didn't trusttheir gut.

Jana Shelfer (08:51):
Yeah, because, then the next level is.
Is it my gut speaking, or is itjust that I'm uncomfortable?
And that this is new, so I meanthere's a lot to it but the
more.
You start diving into all ofthis, you start figuring out

(09:11):
what works for you.

Jason Shelfer (09:15):
I think that's the key Figuring out what your
recipe is, what works for youand what makes you feel like
you're living the best versionof yourself and the best version
of your life on a day-to-daybasis.

Jana Shelfer (09:28):
So I've taken a lot of NLP classes, which is
neuro-linguistic programming,which I absolutely learned so
much.
I did not learn to the levelwhere I could be on a stage and
demonstrate or make it into somesort of performance that wows
an audience or some type ofmanipulation tactic.

(09:48):
So I wonder where he wastrained.

Jason Shelfer (09:54):
That's a great question.
I wish I had been able to stickaround and ask him some of
these questions.
I think a mentalist would be agreat interview, but are they
like magicians, where theywouldn't give up all this
information?

Jana Shelfer (10:06):
All their secrets, because that's their moneymaker
.

Jason Shelfer (10:08):
Right.

Jana Shelfer (10:10):
Right, they're not going to tell us everything.

Jason Shelfer (10:11):
Well, I peeked at the names that you wrote down,
or I peeked at what you weredrawing.

Jana Shelfer (10:16):
So I could draw the same thing.
I don't want to go to cheating.
I don't want to go to cheating.

Jason Shelfer (10:20):
Well, I don't think it's cheating, because
he's doing this in front of 75people or 100 people and no one
notices it.
So that's another form of whatare we not noticing, whether
it's micro expressions or a gutfeeling.

Jana Shelfer (10:34):
But like when he said to you pick a number
between one and six.

Jason Shelfer (10:38):
One OK.

Jana Shelfer (10:39):
And you were like I'm going to pick four, one and
six.
And you were like I'm going topick four.
And then he literally picked uphis notepad and said they
always say four which had beenwritten in his notepad.

Jason Shelfer (10:50):
So there was some type of neuro-linguistic
programming that prompted me tomove towards the number four,
and part of that was that hesaid pick a number between one
and six, which subconsciouslykind of eliminates one and six.

Jana Shelfer (11:08):
OK.

Jason Shelfer (11:08):
Right.

Jana Shelfer (11:09):
To you, To me, I would have said I'm going to
pick one or I'm going to picksix, maybe If you hadn't heard
everything else.
Right.

Jason Shelfer (11:19):
So it's possible that you're like in your mind,
you know already, know whatyou're going to pick.

Jana Shelfer (11:23):
He might have been using words like square or
right.
Or a car, even the wheels on acar, or something that makes you
think of four, four, four allthese, all these words that
could trigger Okay, that hasfour things, this has four
things.

Jason Shelfer (11:40):
Yes, that just gave me goosebumps, because I'm
sure that is something thathappened.
If I had recorded it and playedit back, I could probably study
it and say okay, what'shappening here?
Oh, I love it.
And we're missing things likethis every day in life.

Jana Shelfer (11:56):
So I literally am going to go through today and
think what am I not noticing?

Jason Shelfer (12:01):
Oh, or what could I notice?
That I haven't noticed before,which I think also leads back
into gratitude, like what youappreciate, appreciates.
When you notice things that youhaven't noticed before, you
realize how abundant we are andhow we have all the resources
right in front of us forwhatever we want to create.

Jana Shelfer (12:23):
I'm also going to notice people's expressions, and
they're what you call microexpressions, which could
literally just be like atwitching eye.

Jason Shelfer (12:33):
Yeah, I get that.
Or a flutter of the lip or asecond inhale before they speak
like that.
Ok, here it comes.
I'm going to tell you something, some hard news.
A lot of people will have thatsecondary breath right before
they start a hard conversation.

Jana Shelfer (12:50):
But the real talent for me is having the
confidence to get in front ofpeople.
Right and actually get paid toput on a show to demonstrate
these techniques.

Jason Shelfer (13:04):
And have that confidence to flip your pad over
before you see what someoneelse wrote down.

Jana Shelfer (13:09):
See, I'm nervous.
I'm nervous just thinking aboutit.
Maybe that's a sign that I needto start going in that
direction.
Pick a number any numberbetween one and six.

Jason Shelfer (13:21):
Between one and three.
Pick a number any number.
Between one and six.
Between one and three.

Jana Shelfer (13:30):
We'll start there Start small, start small, go big
.
Okay, so we're challengingourselves to notice even more.

Jason Shelfer (13:33):
Yeah, notice what we haven't noticed.
And I think that's going to bea beautiful trip or journey for
some people, because there's somuch right in your general
vicinity that you have falleninto that law of habituation and
you've let it slip from yourmind and don't realize
everything that you have rightthere in front of you that you

(13:53):
can work with.

Jana Shelfer (13:54):
I love it what we learn at the NCK, free Republic
County.
Fair.

Jason Shelfer (13:59):
Thanks for joining us.
Keep Living Lucky® Republic.

Jana Shelfer (14:00):
County.
Fair Doing calls to something.
Thanks for joining us.

Jason Shelfer (14:02):
Keep Living Lucky®.

Jana Shelfer (14:03):
Bye-bye.
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