September 5, 2025 • 12 mins
Shark Mindset: Ditch the Sunday Scaries & Embrace Your Power (Living Lucky® Podcast)
Are you sick of the Sunday Scaries? 😫 In this mind-shifting Living Lucky® Podcast episode, Jason and Jana Banana reveal an unexpected source of wisdom: sharks. Discover how adopting a "shark mindset" is the key to escaping the doom loop of dread and living a life of purpose, power, and unapologetic authenticity.
This is a powerful self-help and personal development masterclass for anyone ready to glow up and pursue their dreams:
- The Shark vs. The Human: Understand the striking contrast between a shark's purposeful existence and the human tendency to drown in anxiety about work, expectations, and other people's opinions.
- Cultivating "Thick Skin": Learn that developing resilience isn't about becoming callous. It's about building a mindset so confident that others' doubts and fears can't penetrate your determination.
- The Dream Debate: We tackle the age-old question: should you keep your dreams private or share them publicly? Weigh the risks of external negativity against the immense value of gaining support from your community.
- Escaping the 7-to-7 Grind: Hear how an unconventional lifestyle—coaching, podcasting, and water skiing—can challenge traditional notions of success. Find the confidence to live your truth without justifying it to others.
- Unapologetic Purpose: This episode is a call to action. Stop dimming your light to fit in. Discover that the most fulfilled people are those who speak up, take action, and refuse to let limiting beliefs—from themselves or others—get in their way.
Ready to trade your Monday morning dread for a shark-like swagger? This conversation will empower you to live in alignment with your authentic self and start chasing your dreams with a new sense of purpose.
How to overcome Sunday Scaries. What is the shark mindset? How to build thick skin. How to deal with people who discourage your dreams. The science of Sunday night dread. Living an unconventional lifestyle. Why do people criticize success? How to find your purpose in life. How to build confidence to chase your dreams. What is the shark mindset? Why do people get the Sunday Scaries? How can I develop thicker skin? Should I tell people about my dreams? Why do people criticize others' success? How do I deal with fear of judgment? How to stop caring wha
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Jana Shelfer (00:00):
Are you ready to create a life you crave?
Let's spin that doom loop ofnegativity into an upward
success cycle and start LivingLucky®.
Jason Shelfer (00:14):
Good morning.
Jana Shelfer (00:15):
I'm Jana, I'm Jason and we are Living Lucky®
you are too?
Jason Shelfer (00:20):
Do you ever wake up on Monday morning and go oh,
it's time to make the donuts, oryou go to bed Sunday night and
you got those Sunday nightscaries, yeah.
Jana Shelfer (00:32):
Jason and I back in the day this was back 10, 15
years ago we would hear 60minutes on Sunday night and as
soon as I would hear that, itwas like I felt this physical
weight on my shoulders.
I got so much to do this week.
Jason Shelfer (00:51):
Right, it was dread.
It was the building of dread.
Jana Shelfer (00:55):
It was dread, it was, oh my gosh.
You wake up on Monday morningyou're like oh, I feel so tired,
I just want to go back to sleep.
I don't want to go to work.
There's so many expectations.
You start living in the stress.
Are you with me?
If you agree with me, raiseyour hand, I see you out there.
Jason Shelfer (01:15):
Am I right or am I?
Jana Shelfer (01:15):
right?
Am I right or am I right?
Jason Shelfer (01:17):
And that's, I think that comes from not living
in alignment and not living inintention and purpose living in
alignment and not living inintention and purpose.
Jana Shelfer (01:27):
Okay, so Jason and I were studying sharks Now
don't ask us why we were doingthis, but it caught our
attention and I thought okay,let's look into this Now.
A shark doesn't wake up onMonday morning and go oh my God,
I have work to do.
I got to get the kids ready.
I got to drive through traffic.
My boss has so manyexpectations.
I'm behind on projects oh, letalone the email and I haven't
(01:52):
checked my social media.
I need to get gifts for all mybirthday friends and blah, blah,
blah.
Jason Shelfer (01:59):
Yeah, and we got Shark Week.
That comes on every year.
Jana Shelfer (02:02):
Yes.
Jason Shelfer (02:02):
We live in Florida, so we're hearing about
the news sensationalizing sharks, and sharks get up every day or
get up.
They get up on Mondays.
They just get up and go out,scare people, bite people and do
stuff.
They're just out there beingsharks.
Jana Shelfer (02:20):
You think they're living in the fear or the dread
or the stress.
Jason Shelfer (02:25):
No, they're a darn shark, they're not
complaining, they're out therejust living life, being them.
Jana Shelfer (02:31):
They are being their best self, I mean, and
their best self is maybe almostbeing a bully or being Well part
of that's having thick skin.
Oh, that's true, Like sharksare going to have thick skin.
Jason Shelfer (02:43):
Yeah, because they don't care what other
people think.
Stop worrying Like figure outwhat you want to do, who you
want to be, who you are like, incomplete alignment with
yourself, and get your swaggeryeah.
And be a shark, be a shark.
Jana Shelfer (02:57):
Like that's the thing, although I don't want the
eyes of a shark Right.
Jason Shelfer (03:01):
Sometimes they look like they kind of got dead
eye, like dead eye.
Jana Shelfer (03:07):
Flat face dead eye .
It's like their lids close andopen the wrong way and sometimes
they kind of look like theyhave lazy eyes, not that I'm
trying to put them down.
See, listen to us.
But you know what Sharks don'tcare?
Okay, yeah, and that's whathappens.
But you know what Sharks don'tcare?
Okay yeah, sharks don't give adamn.
And that's what happens.
We just demonstrated our ownexample.
(03:28):
That's what happens in society.
You start being your best self,you start going for your dreams
, you start getting up andmaking it happen and next thing
you know, the people around youare starting to pick it apart.
Jason Shelfer (03:45):
Yeah.
Jana Shelfer (03:46):
And shame on us, because we just did that to a
damn shark.
Jason Shelfer (03:51):
Shame.
Well, the other part of that isshame on the shark if it pays
attention to that and lets thatget in the way of its dream, but
it doesn't.
It doesn't Shame on us, though,if we're allowing other people
to get in the way of our dreamand our.
Our complete alignment and ourhappiness, our joy if we let
people around us get in the wayof our purpose, our goals in
(04:13):
life.
Jana Shelfer (04:13):
Of why we were created on this planet.
You know, I am about to be aworld champion.
I don't know if you know this.
Listen, I mean, and there is alimiting belief inside me that
says, oh gosh, jana, that soundsso narcissistic.
And literally I get up everyday.
We go ski, we've been eatingwell, we've been training like,
(04:38):
we've been doing the things tomake the dream come true.
And yet there's somethinginside me that has not put it on
social media.
I have kind of kept it underthe covers, in case, even just
telling people, and that in caseis caring what other people
(04:59):
think, or letting their facialreactions or the way they
respond affect me.
Yeah, are you with me?
Jason Shelfer (05:09):
100%, and this is something that we learn over
time, because people will try toget in the way.
I mean, people will lay theirbodies down to protect your
emotions, and it's not alwaysbecause they don't want you to
succeed.
They don't know the work thatyou're putting in behind closed
(05:29):
doors oftentimes, yes, and theyknow that they've tried hard to
succeed at something and they'vegiven up before they achieve it
and they don't want you toexperience that same pain.
Jana Shelfer (05:40):
Yes, so it's really out of love and
protection that they react theway they do.
Jason Shelfer (05:45):
It's so often, I believe, out of love and
protection.
Now there are some people thatprobably are like, if I can't
have it, if I'm not willing toput in the work for it, I don't
want someone else to get it.
Jana Shelfer (05:56):
I believe that but most people, I believe, just
don't want you to get hurt, sothey don't want you to go for it
.
So that kind of brings me tothis is a little off topic, but
sometimes, jason and I, as we'vestarted this business, we
started by collecting dreams,and there's a couple different
(06:17):
philosophies when you collectdreams, because some people say,
don't publicize your dream.
Don't tell anybody, because theway other people respond, or
just even subconsciously, itwill affect how how determined
(06:37):
you are, how hard you go forthat dream.
Jason Shelfer (06:40):
There's a lot of things in that, because in that
philosophy of don't tell anyone,like, keep it a secret, is the
philosophy of the world, is notan abundant place.
Someone will steal your dreamAlso, that people will get in
the way of you accomplishing.
Also, that people will get inthe way of you accomplishing
Also, that all the microexpressions that you can't help
(07:00):
but recognize will deflate yourmotivation and inspiration
towards the dream.
So there's a lot of truth indon't tell people.
Jana Shelfer (07:10):
But that doesn't happen to sharks, Right?
A shark wakes up and says youknow what I'm hungry.
Jason Shelfer (07:16):
I'm hungry, I'm going to eat.
Jana Shelfer (07:17):
I'm going to take care of my needs.
Jason Shelfer (07:19):
The weather's cold here, I'm going to travel
to somewhere else.
Or it's too warm here, I'mgoing to travel to somewhere
else.
Whatever, the shark's going todo what it wants to do, yes, and
it's going to travel with thepeople it wants to travel with
Right.
It's going to go with thewhales.
It's going to go with what'smost conducive to the alignment
it wants.
Jana Shelfer (07:40):
A shark doesn't wake up and go oh, oh I'm in the
ocean.
Again the alarm is going offand it is time A shark doesn't
use language like.
I.
Really should go visit AuntBerda If.
Jason Shelfer (07:57):
I was in the Atlantic Ocean, things would be
better, but I'm in the PacificOcean.
Jana Shelfer (08:03):
If only A shark doesn't use language like I
should, I could, I would if Ihave the resources.
No, a shark says this is what Iwant.
I'm going to go get it.
Yeah, and I feel like there's alesson there.
I feel like there's a lesson,and you're right.
I think.
Having thick skin and notcaring what other people say, or
(08:29):
even from afar, sometimes I canfeel what people are feeling
when I, you know, I always havea problem when people say so
what do you do for a living?
And I say well, you know what?
My husband and I work from homeand we water ski and we
ballroom dance and we go aroundand speak.
(08:50):
It feels unconvincing, it feelsdifferent.
Jason Shelfer (08:53):
It's very different.
I coach clients, we podcast andwe speak.
So making money is the coaching, the speaking.
Jana Shelfer (09:01):
And so their natural reaction is huh how does
that happen?
Jason Shelfer (09:07):
Because I go to work from seven o'clock in the
morning to seven o'clock atnight.
Jana Shelfer (09:11):
And the minute that I see that energy or that
reaction, it's almost like I canfeel their feelings, and it has
been a hurdle for me to getthat thick skin.
Jason Shelfer (09:22):
Well, it's hard to explain that to people who
have been brought up in theworld of.
I go to work, you have to go tocollege, you have to go to work
for 12 hours a day.
To make money, to make money,and then you have to save money
To eat.
All this stuff yeah.
Jana Shelfer (09:38):
You have to eat to be healthy.
Jason Shelfer (09:41):
There's a chain there, so I guess our overall
message today is Figure outexactly what you want in life,
get your swagger and go outthere and be like a shark.
And I want to touch, though,real quickly back to the telling
people about your dream, andnot Because we talked- about the
people that say don't tellpeople about your dream and not
because we talked about the um.
(10:01):
The people that say don't tellpeople about your dream.
Jana Shelfer (10:03):
Yeah.
Jason Shelfer (10:03):
And I want to say that if you don't tell people
about your dream, you might missout on the people who are
available and want to comealongside you and help you
achieve it.
Jana Shelfer (10:13):
That is true.
So and, and that's fine, thereis a happy medium there, there
is.
Jason Shelfer (10:23):
I think there is a happy medium and there are
stages.
There are stages and once youhave your own confidence, once
you're walking like a shark andyou're in you, can get swimming
like swimming like a shark, youhave your swagger, you have your
self-confidence and you'vecultivated the people around you
so that you know OK, I have mysupport team, I have my my
living, lucky community aroundme.
(10:43):
Now I can tell the right people.
They can put out tentacles andfeelers for, okay, who are the
who that helped me get to whatI'm dreaming of?
Because we don't always knowthe how when we dream super big.
But I can find the who that hasthe knowledge nuggets that are
going to take me in the rightdirection.
Jana Shelfer (11:03):
So what I hear you saying is allow yourself to be
awesome.
Yeah, because you are.
Jason Shelfer (11:10):
Yeah, we are all amazing individuals.
Jana Shelfer (11:14):
I mean, we are creating the impossible out of
the possible, out of theimpossible already, and
sometimes we want to fit in, sowe sometimes dim our own, like,
yeah, we dim our dreams, we dimour light to fit into society,
when actually it's the, thesharks that say you know what,
(11:39):
this is what I want.
They speak up and they go getit and they don't care.
They don't care what everyoneelse thinks.
Jason Shelfer (11:46):
They glow up, they do, they want to glow up,
they want to sparkle, they wantto matter and they do.
Jana Shelfer (11:53):
And the more they do this, the bigger they get and
the bigger rewards they get.
They become more powerful andmore Sought after.
I don't know if sought after isthe right word.
Jason Shelfer (12:07):
Well, it's not great for a shark, but it's good
for people.
Jana Shelfer (12:12):
I love it.
Jason Shelfer (12:13):
Thanks for joining us Keep Living Lucky®.
Jana Shelfer (12:15):
Bye-bye.
If the idea of Living Lucky®appeals to you, visit us at www.
LivingLucky.
com.
Are you ready to create a life you crave?
Let's spin that doom loop ofnegativity into an upward
success cycle and start LivingLucky®.
Jason Shelfer (00:14):
Good morning.
Jana Shelfer (00:15):
I'm Jana, I'm Jason and we are Living Lucky®
you are too?
Jason Shelfer (00:20):
Do you ever wake up on Monday morning and go oh,
it's time to make the donuts, oryou go to bed Sunday night and
you got those Sunday nightscaries, yeah.
Jana Shelfer (00:32):
Jason and I back in the day this was back 10, 15
years ago we would hear 60minutes on Sunday night and as
soon as I would hear that, itwas like I felt this physical
weight on my shoulders.
I got so much to do this week.
Jason Shelfer (00:51):
Right, it was dread.
It was the building of dread.
Jana Shelfer (00:55):
It was dread, it was, oh my gosh.
You wake up on Monday morningyou're like oh, I feel so tired,
I just want to go back to sleep.
I don't want to go to work.
There's so many expectations.
You start living in the stress.
Are you with me?
If you agree with me, raiseyour hand, I see you out there.
Jason Shelfer (01:15):
Am I right or am I?
Jana Shelfer (01:15):
right?
Am I right or am I right?
Jason Shelfer (01:17):
And that's, I think that comes from not living
in alignment and not living inintention and purpose living in
alignment and not living inintention and purpose.
Jana Shelfer (01:27):
Okay, so Jason and I were studying sharks Now
don't ask us why we were doingthis, but it caught our
attention and I thought okay,let's look into this Now.
A shark doesn't wake up onMonday morning and go oh my God,
I have work to do.
I got to get the kids ready.
I got to drive through traffic.
My boss has so manyexpectations.
I'm behind on projects oh, letalone the email and I haven't
(01:52):
checked my social media.
I need to get gifts for all mybirthday friends and blah, blah,
blah.
Jason Shelfer (01:59):
Yeah, and we got Shark Week.
That comes on every year.
Jana Shelfer (02:02):
Yes.
Jason Shelfer (02:02):
We live in Florida, so we're hearing about
the news sensationalizing sharks, and sharks get up every day or
get up.
They get up on Mondays.
They just get up and go out,scare people, bite people and do
stuff.
They're just out there beingsharks.
Jana Shelfer (02:20):
You think they're living in the fear or the dread
or the stress.
Jason Shelfer (02:25):
No, they're a darn shark, they're not
complaining, they're out therejust living life, being them.
Jana Shelfer (02:31):
They are being their best self, I mean, and
their best self is maybe almostbeing a bully or being Well part
of that's having thick skin.
Oh, that's true, Like sharksare going to have thick skin.
Jason Shelfer (02:43):
Yeah, because they don't care what other
people think.
Stop worrying Like figure outwhat you want to do, who you
want to be, who you are like, incomplete alignment with
yourself, and get your swaggeryeah.
And be a shark, be a shark.
Jana Shelfer (02:57):
Like that's the thing, although I don't want the
eyes of a shark Right.
Jason Shelfer (03:01):
Sometimes they look like they kind of got dead
eye, like dead eye.
Jana Shelfer (03:07):
Flat face dead eye .
It's like their lids close andopen the wrong way and sometimes
they kind of look like theyhave lazy eyes, not that I'm
trying to put them down.
See, listen to us.
But you know what Sharks don'tcare?
Okay, yeah, and that's whathappens.
But you know what Sharks don'tcare?
Okay yeah, sharks don't give adamn.
And that's what happens.
We just demonstrated our ownexample.
(03:28):
That's what happens in society.
You start being your best self,you start going for your dreams
, you start getting up andmaking it happen and next thing
you know, the people around youare starting to pick it apart.
Jason Shelfer (03:45):
Yeah.
Jana Shelfer (03:46):
And shame on us, because we just did that to a
damn shark.
Jason Shelfer (03:51):
Shame.
Well, the other part of that isshame on the shark if it pays
attention to that and lets thatget in the way of its dream, but
it doesn't.
It doesn't Shame on us, though,if we're allowing other people
to get in the way of our dreamand our.
Our complete alignment and ourhappiness, our joy if we let
people around us get in the wayof our purpose, our goals in
(04:13):
life.
Jana Shelfer (04:13):
Of why we were created on this planet.
You know, I am about to be aworld champion.
I don't know if you know this.
Listen, I mean, and there is alimiting belief inside me that
says, oh gosh, jana, that soundsso narcissistic.
And literally I get up everyday.
We go ski, we've been eatingwell, we've been training like,
(04:38):
we've been doing the things tomake the dream come true.
And yet there's somethinginside me that has not put it on
social media.
I have kind of kept it underthe covers, in case, even just
telling people, and that in caseis caring what other people
(04:59):
think, or letting their facialreactions or the way they
respond affect me.
Yeah, are you with me?
Jason Shelfer (05:09):
100%, and this is something that we learn over
time, because people will try toget in the way.
I mean, people will lay theirbodies down to protect your
emotions, and it's not alwaysbecause they don't want you to
succeed.
They don't know the work thatyou're putting in behind closed
(05:29):
doors oftentimes, yes, and theyknow that they've tried hard to
succeed at something and they'vegiven up before they achieve it
and they don't want you toexperience that same pain.
Jana Shelfer (05:40):
Yes, so it's really out of love and
protection that they react theway they do.
Jason Shelfer (05:45):
It's so often, I believe, out of love and
protection.
Now there are some people thatprobably are like, if I can't
have it, if I'm not willing toput in the work for it, I don't
want someone else to get it.
Jana Shelfer (05:56):
I believe that but most people, I believe, just
don't want you to get hurt, sothey don't want you to go for it
.
So that kind of brings me tothis is a little off topic, but
sometimes, jason and I, as we'vestarted this business, we
started by collecting dreams,and there's a couple different
(06:17):
philosophies when you collectdreams, because some people say,
don't publicize your dream.
Don't tell anybody, because theway other people respond, or
just even subconsciously, itwill affect how how determined
(06:37):
you are, how hard you go forthat dream.
Jason Shelfer (06:40):
There's a lot of things in that, because in that
philosophy of don't tell anyone,like, keep it a secret, is the
philosophy of the world, is notan abundant place.
Someone will steal your dreamAlso, that people will get in
the way of you accomplishing.
Also, that people will get inthe way of you accomplishing
Also, that all the microexpressions that you can't help
(07:00):
but recognize will deflate yourmotivation and inspiration
towards the dream.
So there's a lot of truth indon't tell people.
Jana Shelfer (07:10):
But that doesn't happen to sharks, Right?
A shark wakes up and says youknow what I'm hungry.
Jason Shelfer (07:16):
I'm hungry, I'm going to eat.
Jana Shelfer (07:17):
I'm going to take care of my needs.
Jason Shelfer (07:19):
The weather's cold here, I'm going to travel
to somewhere else.
Or it's too warm here, I'mgoing to travel to somewhere
else.
Whatever, the shark's going todo what it wants to do, yes, and
it's going to travel with thepeople it wants to travel with
Right.
It's going to go with thewhales.
It's going to go with what'smost conducive to the alignment
it wants.
Jana Shelfer (07:40):
A shark doesn't wake up and go oh, oh I'm in the
ocean.
Again the alarm is going offand it is time A shark doesn't
use language like.
I.
Really should go visit AuntBerda If.
Jason Shelfer (07:57):
I was in the Atlantic Ocean, things would be
better, but I'm in the PacificOcean.
Jana Shelfer (08:03):
If only A shark doesn't use language like I
should, I could, I would if Ihave the resources.
No, a shark says this is what Iwant.
I'm going to go get it.
Yeah, and I feel like there's alesson there.
I feel like there's a lesson,and you're right.
I think.
Having thick skin and notcaring what other people say, or
(08:29):
even from afar, sometimes I canfeel what people are feeling
when I, you know, I always havea problem when people say so
what do you do for a living?
And I say well, you know what?
My husband and I work from homeand we water ski and we
ballroom dance and we go aroundand speak.
(08:50):
It feels unconvincing, it feelsdifferent.
Jason Shelfer (08:53):
It's very different.
I coach clients, we podcast andwe speak.
So making money is the coaching, the speaking.
Jana Shelfer (09:01):
And so their natural reaction is huh how does
that happen?
Jason Shelfer (09:07):
Because I go to work from seven o'clock in the
morning to seven o'clock atnight.
Jana Shelfer (09:11):
And the minute that I see that energy or that
reaction, it's almost like I canfeel their feelings, and it has
been a hurdle for me to getthat thick skin.
Jason Shelfer (09:22):
Well, it's hard to explain that to people who
have been brought up in theworld of.
I go to work, you have to go tocollege, you have to go to work
for 12 hours a day.
To make money, to make money,and then you have to save money
To eat.
All this stuff yeah.
Jana Shelfer (09:38):
You have to eat to be healthy.
Jason Shelfer (09:41):
There's a chain there, so I guess our overall
message today is Figure outexactly what you want in life,
get your swagger and go outthere and be like a shark.
And I want to touch, though,real quickly back to the telling
people about your dream, andnot Because we talked- about the
people that say don't tellpeople about your dream and not
because we talked about the um.
(10:01):
The people that say don't tellpeople about your dream.
Jana Shelfer (10:03):
Yeah.
Jason Shelfer (10:03):
And I want to say that if you don't tell people
about your dream, you might missout on the people who are
available and want to comealongside you and help you
achieve it.
Jana Shelfer (10:13):
That is true.
So and, and that's fine, thereis a happy medium there, there
is.
Jason Shelfer (10:23):
I think there is a happy medium and there are
stages.
There are stages and once youhave your own confidence, once
you're walking like a shark andyou're in you, can get swimming
like swimming like a shark, youhave your swagger, you have your
self-confidence and you'vecultivated the people around you
so that you know OK, I have mysupport team, I have my my
living, lucky community aroundme.
(10:43):
Now I can tell the right people.
They can put out tentacles andfeelers for, okay, who are the
who that helped me get to whatI'm dreaming of?
Because we don't always knowthe how when we dream super big.
But I can find the who that hasthe knowledge nuggets that are
going to take me in the rightdirection.
Jana Shelfer (11:03):
So what I hear you saying is allow yourself to be
awesome.
Yeah, because you are.
Jason Shelfer (11:10):
Yeah, we are all amazing individuals.
Jana Shelfer (11:14):
I mean, we are creating the impossible out of
the possible, out of theimpossible already, and
sometimes we want to fit in, sowe sometimes dim our own, like,
yeah, we dim our dreams, we dimour light to fit into society,
when actually it's the, thesharks that say you know what,
(11:39):
this is what I want.
They speak up and they go getit and they don't care.
They don't care what everyoneelse thinks.
Jason Shelfer (11:46):
They glow up, they do, they want to glow up,
they want to sparkle, they wantto matter and they do.
Jana Shelfer (11:53):
And the more they do this, the bigger they get and
the bigger rewards they get.
They become more powerful andmore Sought after.
I don't know if sought after isthe right word.
Jason Shelfer (12:07):
Well, it's not great for a shark, but it's good
for people.
Jana Shelfer (12:12):
I love it.
Jason Shelfer (12:13):
Thanks for joining us Keep Living Lucky®.
Jana Shelfer (12:15):
Bye-bye.
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