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October 15, 2025 40 mins

As if being members of renowned Americana group Wilco wasn’t enough, Pat Sansone and John Stirratt create hauntingly beautiful and intellectually engaging throwback pop-rock a la Big Star under the moniker the Autumn Defense.

They recently released a new record entitled “Here and Nowhere,” following an eleven year break. They are also our guests on Season 3, Episode 15 of “Load-In Through the Back.” 

Pat and John join us via Zoom to discuss touring through winter weather, record shopping in Brazil, the pros and cons of social media during an album release campaign, and much more. 

The Autumn Defense’s Fall Tour kicks off October 24th in Vienna, VA. Find tickets and more information by following @TheAutumnDefense on social media. 

Here and Nowhere” is available wherever you stream or purchase music via Yep Roc Records

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