Ebony Nostalgia: Life Lessons From the Streets to Prison

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Remie Jones (00:10):
Hey everybody, welcome back to season two of
Lockdown to Legacy.
I'm your host, Remy Jones, andfrom time to time I will be
joined by my co-host, dj, whojust so happens to also be my
awesome sauce wife.
I also have a couple of closefriends that are still
incarcerated who will be regularcontributors, and together we

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will bring you the real ondealing with the criminal
justice system from multipleangles.
A lot of what we share will bereal experiences from both
currently and formerlyincarcerated people like myself,
along with current events thataffect those impacted by the
legal system.
So thank you for tapping in,thank you for sticking with us
from season one.
Now let's get to it.

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I would like to introduce mybrother from another mother, mr
Herman Floyd III.
I told you applause, I'm goingto be here for a little bit, not
a long time, thank you.
Thank you All right, man.
Thanks for agreeing to be onthe show.
I figured you had a lot tooffer, not only because you are

(01:24):
an enlightened individual, butbecause we got history.
Oh yeah, you know, for thosewho don't know, I got in trouble
as a juvenile and I ended upbringing some folks along with
me, and he was one of them, andyou you know we did Dumb shit

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and got in trouble for it.
It was funny in a moment.
I ain't even gonna lie.
It's still funny to look backat it, even though I'm a changed
man.
I just don't understand how thehell we got in that situation,
man.

Herman Floyd III (02:03):
Well, all I know is I was at home making
burritos when you pulled up onme and when it first transpired
and I realized that I was theonly one of age that was going
down.
I'm like man, I should havejust ate my fucking burritos.
But no, I did what any brotherwould do.

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You know what I'm saying.
You called on me.
I thought it was a problem.
So, hey, I showed up.

I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
Even though it ended how itended, I'd still appreciate it.

Yeah, not to say that what we did was right,
but I mean that's what you dofor the ones you love.
You do for the ones you love.
Regardless of what it is or whoit is, you're going to defend
the people that you love andcare about.
Facts, Whether right or wrong,you'll get to the right or wrong
.

Facts.
All right, so you know, beforewe jump into any deep topics,
man, I kind of wanted to havesome fun with this whole Black
History Month thing, you know,because I don't really know the
demographics of my listeners forreal, I know we got some in a

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lot of other countries.
I wanted to kind of just give afunny insight into what it was
like coming up as a Black kidman, and one of the things I
thought about was like we hadour own little language,
especially me and you like.
But the funny part is thatlanguage a lot of times was like

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universal.
You go to a whole nother stateacross the country running to
some black folks and say certainstuff and they know exactly
what you're talking about.
So I just wanted to sit hereand just kind of spitball some
of our black phrases and termsthat we use growing up.
That was like universal or orsome of the ones, because I know

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you got a lot of these, some ofthe ones that was like local
akron, uh lingo.

Oh man, when it comes, when it comes to local
akron lingo, it's a lot.
It's a lot.
I can go on for days.

I could be like e40 and write a whole book, yeah
you know what somebody shouldbecause I know urban dictionary
be fucking it up, but mandictionary be full of man.

I feel like urban dictionary.
Urban dictionary is likeWikipedia.

Yeah, you could just go and write anything in
there, ain't nobody factchecking, but like some of the
terms.
Ok, I'm going to spitball a fewSome of the terms that I don't
know if I don't even know ifthey outside of black America,
but I know in black America Icould go anywhere and be like
man.
Why you come out here lookinglike who shot John and they're
going to know exactly what Imeant.

Or why you come up, why you come out here
looking like who did it and why.

Right, Like you ain't even got to sit there and
question like what a person mean, you already know.
Like man, go take that off, Tryagain.

Or or go ahead , man, that haircut ain't ain't,
you know it ain't cutting it.
We say the term bobos.
Oh yeah, bobos.
Yeah, I don't care thosenon-name brand shoes non-name
brand shoes.

You know, flat tires, beaters, I?
I mean, you could have on someJ's and they could be some
bobo's if they run down enough.

Or if they're the Mexican Jordans.

Right, right, right them joints that you can see
the glue along the sides.
You can't wear them on a hotday.

Right or not even that they can still be
Jordans, but it's the Jordansthat don't nobody buy, not even
that they can still be Jordans,but it's the Jordans that don't
nobody buy.

Oh yeah, If they ain't number Jordans, you might
as well not even put them on.

Yeah, those are.

Mexican Jordans, team Jordans.
Yeah, we don't do those.

Hey, no, no, no, I ain't going home.
You know, the first set of teamJordans was fresh.

I had a I ain't even hit.

Oh yeah, it was um.
First they came out with the um, with the white and black.
It was both kind of corny.
When they came out with theblue joints though it was fresh,
I had to do See.

I ain't even going to lie when I seen I might have
seen one or two pair of TeamGeorge over the years that I
like, but I ain't going to frontman, I've been so conditioned
that I was like I ain't about tobuy them.
Man, people are going to be onmy ass, man.

You got to step outside the box.
You can't be a trend follower,you got to be a trendsetter.

My brother, I mean, you know I'm cool now, but we
talk about like middle school,high school, days where I was
like I ain't about to put themon, man, they going to eat my
ass a lot.
That goes into another one ofour little terms, man, a roast
session.
You know Roast bake slang.
I mean really any synonym forcooking.

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So if you talking aboutroasting, getting fried, getting
baked like that's, it's a jokesession and the joke is on you.
But I ain't gonna lie, man, Iam very much appreciative for
the roast sessions that we hadin our lives, man, because kids
in our days ain't got no thickskin.
We had roast sessions at home,over dinner, you know, oh yeah,

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amongst each other, like grandmabeing on it.
You know, like grandma being onit.
You know, oh, man, if you hadan old uncle, oh man.
Or your dad, anybody older.
They gotta be older, though,cause they be having the jokes
that be so damn funny.

But the lingo is from, you know, the 60s yeah,
so it need remix, like a DJKhaled song.

What you know about .
Like your best friend man, yougot your best friend.
They be like hey, that's my ace, boom coon.

Oh yeah, that's fam, that's bro, that's
the need.

Yeah, like you tell anybody that's your ace boom
coon, they know that they can'tmess with that person without
you jumping in.
It's a wrap, right, right,that's A1 from day one, for real
.
And I think it's hilariousbecause I always use that term
and then at some point it justdied out of my vocabulary.

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But when I just thought of thislike man, what's some terms we
used to say coming up man it waslike one of the first ones I
thought of for real, and rightalong with it, like you said,
when I said Ace Boone, coon, itwas like, oh, that's family,
like in the Black communitygrowing up we had so much play
family, fake family, pseudofamily, yeah, listen.

But that's when the village mentality it
ran.
True, because all your mom'sfriends and all your dad's
friends, they kids, was yourfirst play cousins.

Right, right, I mean even like the term cousin
or auntie and uncle pretty much,and I just found out that this
is not exclusive to black people.
This is very much the case inlike Indians, like from India
and stuff, or Asians, but likepretty much anybody older than

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you that has any type ofrelation to your family, whether
it be friendship or cousins orwhatever, like that's your aunt
and uncle, you know.
And it made me think about itbecause I got an uncle.
Well, I got a cousin.
He's my mom's first cousin, butobviously he's a lot older than
us.
Right, we went our whole livescalling this man uncle.

And right, we went our whole lives calling
this man uncle.

Right, but it confused the hell out of us
because, I mean, when youactually start getting older and
you start understanding likeokay, how is his kids related to
us, then you know how is this?
Like wait a minute, who that'sgrandma's what?
Like you start trying to pieceit together and all of a sudden
it's like, oh, so he not myuncle.

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Right, I had an aunt.
The same way, bro, that is notmy aunt, that's my cousin.

Hey, no, hey don't feel bad though, because,
like my mom, like okay, so mymom's dad, he got different
daughters, not just my mom.
He got different daughters, notjust my mom.
But I've never really seen themaround my mom.
So when I do see him now I'llbe like what's up, cuz, and
they'll correct me like I'm yourauntie, my bad, my bad, like I

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didn't really see y'all likethat.
When I was coming up, y'allgave me cousin vibe, so I always
called y'all cuz, like yeah, Imean we.

We grew up and it was just understood, like when I
went to the suburbs and Istarted someone like that's my
cousin, and stuff.
Like people had questions howthat's your cousin, they start
wanting to dissect the familytree.
I'm like, mother, fuck, itdon't matter, that's my, that's
my cousin.
Then the black community isunderstood though like oh,
that's your cousin, that's yourcousin.
When you, oh, that's my, that'smy cousin.
Then the black community isunderstood, though, like oh

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that's your cousin, that's yourcousin.
Oh, that's my people too.
And we ain't about to say whatside of the family who they
related to like.
Oh, that's my cousin too.

Oh, we family too hey, another thing I love
about our diaspora, bro, is likewe could know somebody, we, we
could be on a hunch that we knowsomebody and I swear it seemed
like all you to do is just saytheir name twice.
Are you talking about littleJohn John?
Oh man, I don't, I like yeah.

We got a lot of double time talk in our people.

Another thing that I just learned.
I love learning, okay.
So for the longest it used toalways baffle me why people in
our community would name theirkids these outlandish and crazy
names.
But I got to the root of it.
So, back when our ancestorswere prisoners of war I do not

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like using the S word becausethat's not what it was.
It was prisoners of war.
It not like using the s wordbecause that's not what it was
it was.
It was prisoners of wars.
It was a takeover, but theyused to name their children the
most outlandish things.
That way, if they ever ran intothem again, they would know
that that was their child.
Yeah right, so it makes sense.

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It's crazy, man.
It's crazy what's embedded inour DNA.
We don't even know it for real.
We do things without thinkingwhy we do them, because I always
wonder, like man.

Why is she why?

that little girl named Machine Caché.
Can you even spell that?
But now it makes sense.

Yeah, that's funny, because I'm always hating those
names.
I be hating those names, man.

Bruh, come on now.
Come on now.
Come on now.
Come on now.
My daughter is your niece.
My baby got two middle names.
You know what I'm saying?
Come on now.

Yeah, I mean, I ain't hating on nobody that got
the name man, but I, man, I belooking at some names sometimes
and I'm like why the fuck theydo that to the little girl?
And it's always the littlegirls.
The little dudes be having somemessed up names too, but for
the majority of it it be thelittle girls.

Man, man, listen what kills me is all the
dashes and apostrophes and stuff.

You got hyphens, you got colons.
No, I ain't going to keep onjoking on my people, though, but
at least I know why it is now.

That's what's up, right right, I'm telling you
, bro, like, if I'm not doingschoolwork, I'm reading.
If I'm not reading schoolwork,I'm reading.
If I'm not reading, I'm doingmusic.
If I'm not doing music, and I'mkicking it with my, kicking it
with my kids, but I'm alwaysreading, bro, like.
And it's crazy because, comingup through this indoctrinated

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education system that we have, Icouldn't stay in school,
especially when I got to likemiddle school and high school
and I realized, like, bro, it'sjust the same thing over and
over, it's just longer, theproblems is getting longer, the
directions is getting longer,but it's redundant.
But now I am a glutton forinformation.
I love learning, love learningthings, especially about us.

That's what's up.
So now that you got them kids,man, I'm sure you always be
telling them like man, cover upthe hawk out.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
That hawk is definitely oh,yeah, yeah, because my man
especially Dash, like he alwaystrying to slide outside with
just a windbreaker on.
Boy, you know, all right, it'sanother one, the boonier in the
ass.

So the Hulk is the wind, the cold, you know.
For those who don't know, yougo anywhere, I don't care.
Like I said, man, these things,these terms, you can go out to
California, you can go down toLouisiana, Texas.
Come back up here to Ohio andtell somebody to hawk out and
they go like, oh shit, man, Letme go home and grab some.
Grab a jacket or something.

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They know what you mean.
It's colder than a devil'stitty out there or a witch's
titty, oh man.

Or it's hotter than a hooker in church.

I don't know.
I be wondering, like, how didthese things get so ingrained?
Like one person had tooriginate this right, one person
had to originate this term.
Everybody else looked at themlike they was crazy, but somehow
it spread like the COVID.
It spread like the currentcovid, like the black plague.

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It got all the way around.
I don't know how.
And now I'll be seeing evenpeople over in other countries
that be.
You know, they like to get onour swag, our slang and stuff
like that.
So I'll be hearing in othercountries.
I'm like dang, like, where'sthe origin of this stuff?

It'd be crazy how that works, because, like
for us to be so frowned upon andlooked down on, like we really
set the status quo of what'spopping with everybody.
We decide on what's cool,what's not.
We decide on everything, cool,what's not.
We decide on everything, andeverybody follow our lead.

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It's like everybody want to bemelanated until it's time to be
melanated.
The reason why I say melanatedis because I do not like using
misnomer.
It's like black is a misnomer,it cannot be a color.
And for all my quote unquoteAfrican-Americans, african
Americans, all the AfricanAmericans, that's tuned in.
Please stop, stop going by that, because when you call yourself

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or address or Adhere to thatname, african American, indian,
black you are basically I'm noteven going to say basically you
are letting it be known that youare property of the US
government, you are shadowproperty.
And then the term black theterm black means civility or

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more truth, which means dead inthe eyes of the law.
Yeah, that's why I don't callmyself.

That's why I don't go by black Boy you dropping
jewels.
I ain't call myself.
That's why I don't go by blackboy you dropping jewels, I ain't
even.
It's hard to follow right now.
I'm trying to take notes, butyou know what I appreciate the
jewels man.
You got any more little blackphrases you want to put on here

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before we slide to the nextsegment?
All right, Especially some acroones, especially some acro ones
.
Oh yeah, flam, flam, oh youtalking about like being?

fly.

Huh, you talking about like being fly.

Yeah Flam, okay Flammy like being fly.
Yeah Okay, flaring me like.
Or O4 mad 30 day tags.

Bro, I ain't even hinted at what's that.

It, it means to be a homosexual, oh oh, oh,
oh.

Now I get the the connect and the dots.

Okay, yeah, all right, man, hold on.
What's some more?
Everybody used to say tight.
I still say tight to this day.

You still say tight that's, a universal, that's a
universal.
But I know like when I was likea teenager smoking weed, we
used to call weed fruit Fruitsor kill.
Oh man, like bro.
I got a sack of fruit Likelet's go, let's match.

That ain't no fruit.
That ain't no fruit.
Is it some kill or is it somekill?

Oh, some.
Oh, what do you call it?
There's so many terms for weed.
I don't even know which one ofthem is just coming out of Akron
or which one of them is comingfrom where, but like if you had
some bam.

Oh yeah, bammer.

Like, bro, weed not Like.
Put that back in your pocket,bro.

Yeah, you need to say that back.
Yeah, you need to put that side.
Oh, you're right there.
That was back in the 90s, someBamber 90s.

Oh man, what else I mean?
You got the classics.
You know, you got some fireRight.
Everybody wanted to call weeddrill, no matter what kind of
weed it was at one time.

Right, that's because back then nobody really
knew what they were.
Smoking man.
But you only had so manycategories.
You had three main categoriesyou had dro, you had G13.
And you just had some regularfire.
Nope, four Bam.

Definitely had some regular fire.
Nope Four Bammer Definitely hadsome bam.

Man, I remember getting them compressed
in that motherfucking ounces.
Ha ha, man For a party, Likenot as hard as that
motherfucking state.

So that's dude, that's a reference right there
we're going to have to touch on.
But if you got some bam, youknow you got some bam.
Ain't no like let me smell it,let me like.
When you get it and it looklike like fiber cardboard, like
compressed board and you gottabreak it apart, it'd be sticky

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and stuff.
It got sticks and seeds and allthat in it, like yeah, that's
some bam.
Bro, go on here, put that away,we not?

your blunt.
You can let the wrong personwrote a blunt.
Now all you hearing is poppingbecause they didn't roll seeds
in.
That.

Motherfucker went around everybody head hurt they
got a stick sticking out theside.
You got to try to hold yourfinger over the hole now you
playing, now you playing theflute with your blunt.

Oh man, those days, though, because, like I
don't know, when the whole, likecigarillo craze took over, it
had, it was a rock I canremember when it, when it, when
it really started like beingcemented, that was like early
2000, like 99, going into like2000, because I remember, like
you can get two for 10, threefor 15.

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And we was smoking the fat, thefat blunts, fat Phillies, fat
Swishers, the Optimos White Owls.

Everybody wanted to have a Philly, everybody wanted
to have a Dutch.
I mean, that stuff is prettymuch geographical, like it's
certain states and being out ofAkron, like we always wanted to,
you know, either be with theDetroit cats or the or the Cali
cats, and then you had you hadthe groups.
Later on you had the groupscoming up out of New York and if

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you was running with them,dudes like Cam Cam used to come
down here.

One of the rappers, that's why he got that
song.
I used to get it in Ohio and atthe end of down and out he shot
at the city.
Y'all like he free buck.

He used to run with buck heavy.
Yeah, it's a lot of like forreal.
If you local or native to Akron, it's a lot of history in there
for real, a lot of history.

It's a lot of legends that came up out of here
too, like I'm not mad thatpeople tie lebron to the city.
You know that's what the cityknown for, but we was known for
a lot more before brown evenpicked up a basketball yeah,
well, man dude that made thesong was actually my cousin.

I can't remember his name, but that song, uh, in
ohio, ohio, we get um, um, umthat.

I know what you're talking about, that you
know that oh, oh, a h I o.
What the fuck was that?

I can't remember.
He was one of my older cousins,man man it's a hard girl.

Shout out to the hard girls it's on the tip
of my mouth's.
We're gonna get into a wholeanother conversation and it's
gonna hit me all right let's goahead and spin the bin, which is
another akron saying and it's arapper too from here yeah,

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shout out to spin and the wholeCircle crew.

If y'all too young for that, then you know, just
keep on going.

ETA free ghetto to plug.
Shout out to my former group,the Kennel.

The Kennel, a bunch of cats I grew up under man.
I shout out.
Second, shout out to the Kennoman, particularly Skills Mage.
You know them, my brothers.
Yeah, I was your main event.
I even know I did.

I did wear a lot of hats.
I wore a lot of hats in theKenno rap produced, engineered,
mixed.
Did some of the artwork attimes.
Book his shows.

Local history, right there, that's what I was
talking about.
All right, All right.
So we're going to, like I said,for a second, we're going to
spin the band man.
We're going to get into thetopic of the episode, right?
So I actually wanted to to uh,discuss some of the scars that

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some of the, some of the littlethings remnants is left behind
from growing up in a hood forreal or from going to prison.
So scars is more on the prisonside.
Remnants is from remnants fromgrowing up in the hood.
When it comes to them remnants,I can trace them back to a time

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where they were really important.
And now that I've made it toanother station in life and I
got kids and whatever I find myI'm sorry if anybody listening
that know me and know my kidsand everything, no offense but I
find myself getting annoyedwith my kids sometimes because

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they don't know or they don'thave that experience and have
respect for the experiences thatI went through because they
don't know.
Like when my kids come in theybe like man, I'm hungry, Ain't
nothing to eat in the house.
I be like we got cupboards andrefrigerator full of food.
We got everything you want, butyou don't want to take the time

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to cook something or preparesomething, or you ain't got that
one thing you want.
So you be like I ain't gotnothing.
And I recall times where it waslike we got four bags of you
know heel bread, heels on thecounter.
Some of them might be moldy,but we're going to go ahead,
we're going to toast all of them, we're going to scrape the mold

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off.
So we're going to scrape thepeanut butter jar until it's
crystal clear man, listen, andwe're going to put them together
.
Or another example is like mykids being a house, the, let's
say the Internet go out.
It ain't nothing to do.
Oh man, they, they wallowingaround like ding, like they

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really dying because the wi-fibeen out for 30 minutes hey, no,
like, I'll be turning cornerssometimes, man, and I'll be
seeing kids outside playing.

You just don't know how happy that makes me
inside, like I love seeingchildren outside playing, like
because you rarely see kidsoutside playing.
Now, man, you couldn't pay meto stay in the house when I was
a kid, right?

Like we had.
The curfew was when thestreetlights came on, and really
it was.
You know, my mom worked twojobs, so it was like all right,
I'll be back y'all, because I'mgoing to go inside, my mom going
to go to sleep, because I'mgoing to go inside, my mom is
going to go to sleep and I'mgoing to come back outside.
Sorry, mom.

Oh man, I love man, I love saying rest in
peace to my pops Like I used to,especially my dad, like I would
love telling stories about likeyeah, you remember when such
and such happened.
Yeah, that was me, you can't doshit about it now, girl, but I
still hit my mom with thatsometimes.

It's cool seeing that stuff come out the light.
Or like my mom was talkingabout something my nephew was
doing.
She was like man, I'm so gladyou was a good kid.
I was looking like who?
Oh, you still think my bad?
Because you know, from my mom'skids I'm the youngest and I'm
the only boy, so I used to playon that so heavy.

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I made my sisters look likedemons.
I'm sorry, but you know I'll betrying to tell my mom all the
same stories like all right,this is me, or we did this, and
she'd be like, oh, uh-huh, Iremember somebody told me and I
defended you.
Yeah, I'm sorry not knowing.

You was like junior from um what was that
movie?
Problem child the whole timethe ringleader.

But I be having them same moments.
Man, like I go up to Akron andjust roll down, like sometimes I
just roll down random streets.
I used to be on when I was akid and I see some kids Like one
time I seen some kids playingcurveball.
I stop the car Like let me in.

Hey, I literally did that before too.
I was supposed to be going tothe grocery store.
I pulled over.
I'm like all right.
So look, how's y'all scoringthis?
All right, the devil strip,that's a point.
The sidewalk is two points.
The yard, that's five.
Over the car again.
Over the car again.

I'm like, yeah, I don't know what y'all doing,
Y'all don't know over the car,like you can hit.
You can hit both sides twice,man, you can get it going and
you better not.

Don't touch my ball.

If it's still going , don't touch it yeah, so I I'm
not sure, man, but I believethat curveball is like the
equivalent of stickball up inNew York yeah see, I ain't never
.

I ain't never seen nobody play stickball.
I ain't never seen nobody playstickball.
I ain't never seen nobody playhandball until I was a freshman.
But yeah, curveball, it gottabe the equivalent of that yeah,
that's a classic man.

That is a classic nostalgic thing just to be
thinking about playing curveballman, I have a whole curveball
tournament right now.

The one dollar everything championship we used
to terrorize people.

That was like I have a whole curveball
tournament, right now the $1,000air game Championship.
We used to terrorize peoplethat was new to the community or
guests in the community.
I remember having some cousins.
They was real into playingbasketball.
This was before, actually.
I was big into playingbasketball so I had a basketball
.
That baby had all types ofknots and titties on it from

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playing curveball Right.
But they came over with a brandnew indoor basketball.
I was like that and the firsttime they see me throw that
thing across the street, hit thecurve.
They about lost it, man.

Right street, hit the curb and they about lost
it.

Man right, probably ain't had no understanding what
you was doing.
Like I'm talking about brandnew leather indoor basketball
and I'm just trying to hit thecurb, make it bounce back and
forth.
It's all types of misshapen.
By the time they leave, I'mlike, all right, come back and
spend the night again, all right.
So all right, we got themthings that we grew up on, the

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remnants from growing up in thehood.
Man, a lot of those arevaluable and they were given to
us to be valuable.
I know that we used to.
We were always told if thepolice come to the door, don't
answer the door.

Hell, no Shit.
If your parents ain't home,don't answer that door for
nobody that ain't family.

I mean sometimes not for people, that is family.
Exactly, exactly.

We was last key kids.

We was last key kids and I learned growing up
that that's not a normal thing,at least in other people's lives
.
But where I'm from that wasnormal, like if you wasn't a
last key kid.
That was abnormal.

Right, but that was synonymous with us 80s
babies.
Man Like we are, we come fromone of the last real generations
.
We was one of the lastgenerations of kids to still
play outside.
We got all the new technologyfirst.
We grew up with the technology,yeah.

I mean, I don't think it's anybody any other
generation that can say likewhen it comes to technology they
experience as much as us.
Because growing up, you know,we was exposed to our older,
like our parents, our aunts anduncles and stuff.
So I grew up with exposure to8-tracks, to, you know, tape
players, to record players, toCDs.

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You know computer-wise.
We told them all the littlegreen screen on the computer
playing Frogger.

The ones that used to be in the classroom.
Turn it on.

The bubble.
Apple TVs, floppy disks, zipdisks.
The CD-ROM used to come in thecereal.

Oh man them.

America Online CDs clutch when people start having
computers at home Dollar youknow, picking up the phone and
hearing that scrambly sound man,listen you know, and that's
just like being a last-key kidman and having all that.
It was never nothing to do,like for real.

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Like to go home and get on theinternet for real was like the
last thing we wanted to do.
We had it.
Yeah, we wanted to be outside.
We would go like we used tolive down near a ravine.
I was in that ravine hours outof every day.
If I couldn't be found, they'djust go to the edge of the
ravine and yell my name, have awhole adventure in your

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neighborhood.
My mom would tell you thatpeople you know she worked at
the hospital and people wouldcome tell her oh, I just seen
your son in Cuyahoga Falls.
We don't live in Cuyahoga Falls, you ain't seen my son.
Yeah, he was on the bike withsome little boy on the pegs, and
then by the time she get homeI'll be at home chilling, making
a burrito.

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You know, grew up off themlittle frozen burritos and Hot
Pockets and stuff.
Man Like, oh, I've been hereall day, man, and it's hard to
think I'm lying for real,because we talking about a
single speed bicycle, a BMX bike, 30 miles away, 20 miles away.

It's kind of cringy when you think back on it
because the way we used totravel and be so far away from
home with no real kid, like wedidn't have cell phones or none
back then you was lucky if youhad a pager, lucky if you had a
pager, but still, even then,right you, you 15, 20, 20 miles

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away from the crib if anythinghappened it's ov, because I'm
not.
I know I done been in somesituations as a kid to where I
think back like man, he wasn'tsupposed to make it out of that.

Yeah I, I have been man.
I have been out of town on myBMX bicycle so many times and I
remember getting a flat on mybike and stealing one of them
little Razor scooters, andtrying to put my bike on the

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handlebars to get home.
Like man, we was wild man.

This is about to sound pretty messed up, but
like where I grew up up.
But like when I grew up at.
Like I grew up on Beachwood,like Beachwood, like first we
stayed on Madison, then we movedto Beach.
No, first it was Homer, then itwas Madison, then it was
Beachwood, then it was by Street, just like Early to mid 90s.

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So it'd be a clique of us, it'dbe like seven or eight of us.
Somebody ain't got no bike man.
We, going right to Forest Lodge, right by St Sebastian, catch
one of them little skims, one ofthem people that ain't our skim
folk laughing bop, bop bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.

You know this is so messed up, but like the place I
used to always go to give mylittle cousin a bike, because
I'm like man I ain't putting youon the pegs today, I ain't
putting you on the handlebarstoday, like we would go up to
the Walgreens on Portage PathBecause it's right there at the
edge of the hood, where you knowwhere the suburbs, kind of in

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the hood, meet.
So like all the well-off kids Icall them that all the well-off
kids would come up there andthey just drop their bikes right
in front of the door and go inWalgreens get some candy, get
some juice, whatever.

And I'd be like bro get that 18 speed.

Get that 24 speed.

We used to go after the dinos.

Man, I remember seeing one of them, bikes, with
the springs on it for the firsttime.
Oh yeah, you got the gyroscope.
But okay, regroup again.
We're going to talk about thesescars now, because we talked
about these remnants, man, but alot of these remnants was
valuable.
You ain't talked to the police,you didn't answer the door for

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the police.
We, you know, we had a lot ofthis sense of of family.
Everybody was your cousin, youknow.
You looked out for your cousin.
Your cousin got a fight.
Why you here, why you ain't outthere with him?
You know right, and it taughtme a lot of lessons in life that
stuck with me even to this day,now that I'm damn near 40, um,

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but so then I went to prison.
Man, I went to prison and themsame ideals that we had in the
street kind of don't apply inprison.
I mean you can, like it'scertain people, if you know them
, you stick together and stufflike that.
But for the most part when youget to prison you really got to
choose your lot.
For real, it's like a freshslate, like hitting the reset

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button on the video game.
Don't come in with that.
Who you running with in here?
You know right, and I mean, Iain't gonna lie, man, a lot of
dudes would have to just take alook at the politics and see who
had the dominant positionbefore they chose up, because if
you just run around with thedudes from your neighborhood you

(38:26):
might get yourself in some shit, mm-hmm, like, notably, you
know, I grew up in Akron.
I also grew up out of town inVirginia.
So when I got to prison in Ohio, they like where you from?
If the first thing out of mymouth was Akron, I'm instantly
in some beef, because it's abeef between Akron and Cleveland

(38:48):
, you know, right.
So you, I'm from Virginia, andthat put me by myself, which is
also a dangerous spot to be, butat least it put me in control
over how I get to move, causeman.

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But I know some of the scarsthat I was wanting to talk about
with prison man was, um, youknow, like, like it's guys that
come out with PTSD and that'ssuch a random not random, but
it's such an overused term, youknow, ptsd, that people just
kind of dismiss it like, yeah,whatever, he messed up and they
just let it go.
Most notably, it's associatedwith people that go to war.

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But one of the things I oftensay is that when a judge and a
prosecutor send you to prison,they don't think about where
they're sending you to and theydon't think about who you are.
They really don't.
They don't think about who youare, they really don't.
They don't think about like ifyou're a shy, timid person that
just had happened to get into abad situation.

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All they do is look at yourcrime, like, oh, you got a fist
fight with somebody, they felland hit their head on the curb.
Oh well, that's murder.
Let's go ahead and send you overto mansfield, let's send you to
Belmont, you know, and these,like those two prisons I just
named, we like to call themgladiator camps.
Old Mansfield, oh yeah,especially Belmont.

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Old Mansfield, for those whodon't know, is where they shot
the movie Shawshank Redemption.
So if you need a visual, pleasego watch that movie and then
you'll understand.
But yeah, belmont, man, like ifyou went down to Belmont and
you weren't accustomed tofighting and defending yourself.

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You better learn quick, becausethe moment you let something
happen to you, somebody stealssomething from you, somebody you
know punk you or whatever it'show they say it in prison and
you don't address it, everybodyputting a target on you.
You better not have anythingworth having because somebody
coming to get it, because theyknow you're not going to fight
back.

Oh yeah, box constantly getting kicked.

Yeah, like they don't care about if you put a
lock on your locker box.
They don't care if you lockyour door, like it's a way we
getting that don't go to child,don't, don't go on a visit, you
don't come back.
Everything going there, stripyour sheets if they cleaner than
theirs, like.
So, um, when I talk about ptsdand having to go through these

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experiences, like a lot of timesyou had to become something
worse to make it back to home,to be in a better place, and a
lot of people can'tcompartmentalize that and come
back unscathed.
You know, right, I mean, I gota couple dudes for real who came
home and just really couldn'thandle it.

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Everybody moving around themfelt like everybody was looking
at them.
They felt like everybody knewthey was a felon and was judging
them.
Um, you know and that's one ofthe things I wanted to say is
like there's a psychological andemotional scar that comes out
of doing especially a lengthyprison sentence, because you

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start thinking if you deserve togo home, you start thinking if
you are worthy to be successful,regardless of your work ethic,
regardless of your ambition, youstart.
What do they call that?
There's a thing like when youjust doubt your imposter
syndrome.
That's what it is impostersyndrome where you just don't

(42:23):
believe you're worthy of theposition that you got or the
position you want.
You know, and I always wonderedlike if being a felon impact
how some of these formerlyincarcerated people are willing
to aim high because the systemconditions us.

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After becoming a felon, theytell you relentlessly oh man,
you're going to have to checkthe box and beg for a job,
you're going to have to applyfor housing, you're going to
have to disclose you're a felonand they might not accept you.
But these are also the thingsthat you can go back to prison
for not having housing andemployment Right, sort of things

(43:07):
that you could go back toprison for not having housing
and job employment right.
Um, so then once you get told no, once or twice, you know a lot
of people stop.
They like, man, I'm gonna goget a girlfriend who got a place
or I'm gonna go.
You know I'm gonna go back tohustling, and that's because in
the streets it's one thing to betold no in the streets I can be

(43:29):
told a million times no in thestreets and I'm going to keep on
getting it.
You know, but when you'retrying to change your life.
You're trying to live a waythat nobody you know has lived
before, on the straight andnarrow, you know, and you get
your first or second no, youstart thinking like people
looking down on you.
Your whole life is less thanyou know.

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You don't deserve to have aspot at this place or that place
and so you stop trying.
That is a prison scar and I'verealized that in my specific
life man trying to help people,I realized that it's not about

(44:13):
opportunities and it's not aboutskills or work ethic or
anything like that.
It's about vision.
I can give you opportunities, Ican give you skills.
What I cannot give you isvision.
If you can't see yourselfsucceeding, if you can't see
yourself succeeding, if youcan't see yourself having that,
you're not going to Exactly andthat's because we was

(44:38):
conditioned that way.

Yeah, but you being one of them, you didn't
fall victim to that, me myselfincluded.
I don't feel like I fit intothat either, because, yeah, I
got an F on my record but thatstill hasn't stopped me from
doing what I want to do move howI want to move.
My resume is impressive as hell.

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I've never let me go intoprison Stop me from getting, if
I wanted a job, ain't nobody,ain't nobody sell me better than
myself.
There has not been a job thatI've went out for.
And they're like oh yeah, yougot that felony Duh, duh, duh,
duh, duh.
Like, oh, like, cause I?
Because I already go in.
First of all, I believe inmanifest and I already go in

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Like I got it.
I got it already.
But I can't speak for everybodyelse, but I know with me
personally, I've never let myfelonies become a crutch,
because those bumps in my roadfrom back then they don't define
me, they don't define who I am.

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Everybody make mistakes.
Some people got caught, somepeople didn't, but ain't nobody
perfect.
But I'm not about to let.
I'm not about to let a negativeremark on this invisible piece
of paper of my life delegate howI move out here.

Yeah, and you know, just to just to tie this around
, bring it full circle, you knowwe talked about some of them
remnants from growing up.
We talked about roast sessions,stuff like that.
That's how we were prepared forthe world inside the house, we
roasted each other.
You had to have thick skin.
You couldn't go out to theworld soft and he said this

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about me, you know.
So it gave you confidence, itgave you the tools to not just
fold and, you know, shrink backwhen stuff happened to you Right
.
And when it came to being older, you in the streets, like

(46:46):
somebody, say, no, you're likeman, forget you, like I don't
get it.
So you went and got it.
Well, now I think there's aproblem where when you think,
okay, I got to change my life,you think it has to be a very
distinct disconnect where yourlife is now separate from
everything else, like this newlife can't have nothing to do

(47:09):
with everything from the past.
And I'll be like man, bullshit.
I call bullshit on that becauseI tell people all the time, man
, a lot of the opportunities Igot, I use skills that I learned
in the street or, you know, inthe hood to get them Right.
Like same thing.
The first part of being agangster, the first part of

(47:31):
being a gangster, the first partof being in the streets, is
like you gotta have a fuckingmentality.
I'm sure my listeners heard mesay that before.
You gotta have a fuckingmentality.
So if so-and-so ain't give youno job, you gonna get it by any
means.
If it ain't no food in thehouse, you ain't gonna sit there
and be like it ain't no foodand wait for somebody to come
save you and cook you a meal.
You don't go get it.

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You got to fucking tell them.
So now that you legit don't bethinking oh man, I'm going to
apply at this one place and I'mgoing to go in there groveling
and begging, please give me ajob, please.
Oh no, please don't.
I hope they don't ask about myfelony.
And then, when they ask aboutit, you shrink down and deflate

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like no.
First thing, I would tellpeople when I walked in like
y'all got felonies.
If we can't get past that, Idon't want to waste your time.
Man, I'm gonna get up out ofhere, right?
The confidence of saying thatthey, like they, ain't got
nothing to hang over my head.
No more, right, you know likewhat can they?

that lightweight goes back into what
I was saying prior, when I waslike, hey, nobody sell me better
than me, right?

Like all the times in the hood when we had to have
them roast sessions.
You know you, you battle,rapping, whatever.
You basically selling yourself,trying to put yourself to
appear better than everybodyelse, which is the same thing
you do in a job interview.
To appear better than everybodyelse, which is the same thing
you do in a job interview, right, when you trying to holler at
girls at the mall or theplayground, you know you selling

(48:58):
yourself, trying to setyourself ahead of other people.
You know, when you beating onthe table, rapping in, in, in,
uh in the lunchroom, whatever itis.
When you dress into impress inschool, you got your new kicks,
you ironed up your clothes like.
You know you flam, you'reselling yourself.
So don't sell yourself short.
Now that you've said you wasgoing to change your life and do

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right.
The thing is now you've learnedthat there's different avenues
in which you should apply that.
You know there's moreopportunities.
It's not just low stakes.
Now you have to sell yourselfon a higher level, which is the
case, but don't go in therethinking that because you have

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to be on a higher level, youhave to go in there begging a
higher level, you have to go inthere begging or, like you said
earlier, that now that you'retrying to get to this new
station in life, everything thatwas you is no longer a part of
you.

Like you said, you call bullshit on that.

Yeah, I remember.
So I remember when I went backto the first truck and company I
was at and I became a managerand the first time somebody
called in yelling and irate andthis and that, and I just
totally shut them down Like hey,man, first you're going to

(50:23):
change your tone, I didn't yellnothing, like first, you're
going to change your tone.
And I just looked to the sideand everybody in the room was
like fuck, he just say, and dude, like I don't think he caught
it, and he just went to go backinto his tirade and I was like
no, you're gonna change yourtone when you talking to me, bro

(50:45):
.
And next thing, you know, hecame like man, my, am I bad?
I was just saying like yeah,okay, yeah, what you were saying
, right, like that's a skillthat I developed in the streets,
that's a skill I developed inprison.
So to take it into a corporatesetting and be like hey, no,
that's not going to fly.
So you just got to be able tobe like yo, these are valuable

(51:08):
skills that I have throughoutlife.
They may have got you in a badsituation because you aimed them
at the wrong stuff, but they'revaluable skills that some
people on the other side of thetracks don't have A lot of
people on the other side of thetracks don't have Right right,
for the most part I'm able tosay that a lot of the stuff that

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I've been through helps me dolife, you know right, I feel the
same way and I gotta say like,like, sometimes you gotta go
through shit to grow throughshit, and I don't look at things
that I've been through in anegative light.

They might have been negative in that
moment, but again, they helpmold me into the person that I
am today, because I look ateverything as a learning
experience or a life lesson.
Just like everybody that Iencounter, I look at people like
this.
Everybody that I meet while I'mhere in this room, I'm meeting

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for a reason.
It's not up to chance orcircumstance.
Everybody that I encounter iseither a blessing, a lesson, or
both, and it's up to me to usemy discernment to see what I'm
going to take from it.

That's one of the best qualities you can develop
in life is to be able to learnfrom every situation.
You can learn from everybody.
I don't care if they're a drunkhobo in the street.
I done got some real gems.
Some real gems from dudes thatliterally would drink and pass

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out on the sidewalk.

And sometimes those be some of the most wisest
people.
But I look at it like this thereason I don't look at their
station in life.
I look at how did you acquirethis knowledge?
What have you seen?
What have you been through?
Not just to get you to thispoint, to where you like, hey,
fuck it, it is what it is, butstill have that strong sense of

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that mental, that mentality,that wisdom to be able to drop
gems on everybody.
You know what I call that, bro.

What's that?

When I encounter people like that, hold
on, let me backtrack a littlebit.
One thing that I've learned todo is, even if it's something
that I've learned to do is, evenif it's something that I don't
agree with or it might goagainst something that I believe
, or I even think is right,instead of discrediting somebody

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, why did they come to thatconclusion?
Why did they come to that?
I call it broken clocks Becauseno matter how many times a day
that clock displays the wrongtime, it's always right twice a
day.
So that's how I approach everysituation.
That's how I approach it, evenif I don't agree with it,

(54:06):
because it's all, even with alie, there's always some truth
in a lie.
So when I encounter people nowI'll be like man, fuck this
motherfucker talking about,because somebody could be
dropping the dopest of gems anda shallow person, a
meager-minded person, it'll goright over their head Because

(54:28):
they're looking at that person'sexterior, or what they don't
have versus what they have inthat moment.

But it's always something you can learn from
somebody, man, because they gota whole life of experiences and
I'm living proof of what you cando, what you can be.
I tell stories from my own lifeand it sounds like I'm living
proof of what you can do, whatyou can be.
I tell stories from my own lifeand it sounds like I'm telling
somebody else's stories, like ifI was on the street they'd be
like bro, you cappin'.
And it's the same way on theother side, like I can meet

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anybody and they could have beenanywhere before they was here.
They could have been doinganything before they was here
doing this.
They got a whole treasure troveof lessons and they ain't
always got to be something deepand profound for real, like I
don't know who it was thattaught me the lesson.
One of my biggest lessons thatI teach other people, man, is

(55:27):
make them respect your no andteach people how to deal with
you.
I don't know who taught me that.

I don't know who taught me that I need you to
rewind that.
Say that again.

Make people respect your no and teach them how to
deal with you.
So the idea behind that ispeople love you.
Yes, hey, man, can you do thisfor me?
Can I have this?
Can you take me there?
So the idea behind that ispeople love you, yes, you know.
Hey, man, can you do this forme?
Can I have this?
Can you take me there?
Can you help me?
Can you help me?
And you're like, yeah, yeah, Igot you.
Yeah, I got you.

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But the first time you say no,they're like damn, bro, for real
, you acting stink, you actingfunny, like that man, like you
know, I got you.
If it was me, like no, we ain'tgoing to do none of that.
And I don't, I don't explainmyself.
I don't be like no, cause I gotto do this, no, cause I got

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this thing going.
Like ain't no, justifying it,like no, I can't even, I can't
even help you this time, bro,and that's where it's going to
stay and they're going torespect it.
And then you're going to teachpeople how to deal with you.
I know that I learned thatlesson going to prison because
we just talked about it.
When you come into prison, it'seasy to let people in your

(56:39):
circle and once you attachyourself to certain circles or
certain people, their stainedreputation becomes your stained
reputation, right?
So always tell people right offthe bat make people respect you
.
I mean, teach people how todeal with you and I ain't
talking about like if you acomplicated person or nothing

(56:59):
like that, but if you're alwaysthe person that's going to show
up, you know you always going toshow up.
Bail somebody out of something.
You always gonna loan somemoney.
You always gonna be the personthat cleans up after everybody
make a mess.
They gonna keep making a messbecause they know you gonna
clean it up.
They gonna keep coming to youlike yo hey, man, I got this.

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I got myself in this fucked upsituation, bro, can you bail me
out?
Like, yeah, I got you, bro, yougonna.
I got myself in this fucked upsituation, bro, can you bail me
out?
Like, yeah, I got you.
Bro.
You're going to be that person,you know.
And if you don't teach them howto deal with you up front, when
you change later, it's going tobe a problem.
Like man, you act a brand newone.

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Like man, bro, like what youwant.
Now it's a problem.
Now they want to beef with youbecause you never said no before
you never, you know why.
Well, you ain't gonna cleanthis up like, oh, you ain't
gonna take care.
No, now you moving new.
Now, now, everybody that you metgot a problem with you.
You will fall out with yourmama over something like that.

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Man, listen, but if you thatperson that's like up front,
like bro, I got this, but you'regoing to have to get it next
time.
Or I got this, but this ain'tgoing to be no regular thing,
like they know, like all right,cool.
So when you come, when theycome back next time, you be like
bro, like you did that shit.

(58:30):
Again, I ain't got you thistime, man, you got to figure it
out.
Ain't going to be no argument,ain't going to be no nothing.
All right, bro, thanks, they'regoing to go and figure it out,
because what would they do ifyou wasn't there?
Exactly, exactly, you know, andI've actually coached people a
lot on those two things rightthere and if you can get those

(58:52):
two things down, man, your lifewould be so much better if you,
if you ain't got it already.
It sounds like some big,profound thing that I came up
with, but really it's not rightbecause everybody got it in them
.

It's just a lot of people don't.
A lot of people don't displayit or bring it out or stare to.
They don't have that couragewithin themselves.

I've seen with my own eyes.
People agree to shit that theydon't want to do, right, they
got it written all over them.
They don't want to do it butthey don't want to say no.
They don't want to go help thatperson out of the same shit.
They done been in five timesbut they don't do it because
they don't want to say no, right.

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That's that loyalty to a fault.
Now I will say this Make themrespect your no and teach them
how to deal with you.
It's something that you must doASAP when you come home from
prison.
If you're trying to change yourlife.
Mm-hmm, asap, that got to bethe first thing you do when
people reach out to you, becausethat's always what they love to

(59:53):
do.
They don't want to reach out toyou while you're blocked up.
Ain't nobody going to write.
Ain't nobody going to put moneyon your account.
So you can call.
It'll be very few people, butwhen you touch down, they're
going to show up at your mama'shouse.
Hey, boy, I heard you was out.
That's your moment, right there, to teach them how we about to
go on forward Like I had homiesbro, hey, let's go over here and

(01:00:19):
kick it.
Cool, I'm going to drive my car.
Oh, hop in Hell.
No, I know what you got in thecar.
I don't know for sure, but Iknow what you got in the car.
I don't know for sure, but Iknow something.
I'm cool.
Why just hop in your car?
Hell, nah, cause I know whatyou got in your pockets.
And when you set that boundary,man, ain't nobody gonna think

(01:00:40):
you acting funny?
No more.
When you, when you hop in thecar, though, and you go along
with it, and then shit go bad,and then you wanna be like man,
then you want to be like man.
You know that shores why youdon't take out for it.
Uh, I don't know, we ain't.
Anybody gets that point Right,and you're going to lose people
behind that.
I promise you, you're going tolose people, especially if you

(01:01:03):
uh, setting that you know.
Setting that you know, settingthat boundary from people that
you've had in your life already.

Herman Floyd III (01:01:09):
You're going to lose people but I feel like
anybody that's on anybody,that's anybody that you lose.
They wasn't there for the longrun anyways.

Remie Jones (01:01:18):
No no, they wasn't.
And you're going to gain somuch more in life than you lose
from them.
People leaving, you know.
And then I you're going to gainso much more in life than you
lose from them.
People leaving, you know.
And then I got one more lesson,one more jewel I'm going to
drop right here, and that iseverybody is supposed to be used

(01:01:40):
.
So when I hear people talkinglike oh, they just want to use
me.
No, dummy, you're supposed tobe used.
You're not supposed to bemisused.
So make sure you make themrespect you.
No, make sure you make themrespect your boundaries.
Teach them how to deal with you, because if I can't use you, I

(01:02:02):
don't want you in my life.
Flat out, I use motherfuckersleft and right.
I ain't even go front and I'mthere to be used in return.

But when you're saying that, though, that
might go over some people'shead because they're probably
looking at it in a negativeaspect, but that's not even what
it is.

That's not the case at all.
See.
So when I say use people right,I'm not saying like a person
always calling and asking youfor money, oh, they just using
you.
No, I'm not saying that.
But I'm saying if I got afriend, I don't even care if we
talk to each other every threemonths.
If I know I can call you when Igot some deep emotional shit

(01:02:40):
that's weighing on me and you'regoing to be a good ear to
listen and you're going to giveme some sound advice, then
that's what I use you for.
That's important.
That is a very important thingthat you supply in my life.
Now I better be supplyingsomething in return.
You got to be able to use metoo, or you know it's a useless

(01:03:06):
situation.
But everybody and I know somepeople that be like man you act
different with them than you actwith me.

Yeah, it's supposed to be that way right,
because everybody's relationshipain't the same with everybody
yeah.

So when I keep my conversation in a jokey, jovial
manner with you, that's becausethat's what you supply in my
life.
That's what we do.
We kick it and bullshit.
When I go to somebody else,when I ask them for financial
advice, don't be like but whyyou ain't ask me, I got you.
No, that's not the role youplay in my life, bro.
When I call somebody and I'mlike, hey man, I need to borrow

(01:03:38):
some money, I know it's becauseI respect that person enough and
I got a good enough name inthey book that they gonna be
like yeah, I got you, and I betyou I pay that shit back.
Ain't no question.
You know like you gotta havecertain people for certain tasks
be used, be useful.

(01:04:00):
Only keep people in your lifethat you can use in return,
because if every time somebodycall you you ain't even got to
answer the phone to know it'ssome bullshit, damn this
motherfucker calling me again,bro, why you keep letting that
motherfucker call you.

Right, why you keep answering, why you keep
surrounding yourself around thatmotherfucker.

Bro, like if you ain't even got to answer the
phone to know it's some bullshit.
Stop letting that person callon you.
If you learn that's threejewels right there.
If you learn them three lessons, I don't care if you've been to
the joint, I don't care if youhaven't, I don't care what your
station in life is.
If you learn them three lessons, your life's going to improve.

(01:04:44):
Straight like that.
I'm going to close the bookwith that one man.
that's the end of the episodethe lockdown to legacy podcast

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