How Do You Gauge Success?

In this raw and reflective episode, Tyler and Danny ask the big question: How do you gauge success? Together, they unpack the complexities of defining success in a world obsessed with appearances and material achievements. From navigating personal failures to finding strength in consistency, they discuss the lessons learned from jiu-jitsu, parenting, and building meaningful relationships.

The conversation also delves into dealing with loss, maintaining a presence at the moment, and working through the challenges of life with resilience and humor. Whether you're a father, a grappler, or simply a man trying to figure it all out, this episode is packed with insights and encouragement to keep fighting the good fight.

Show Notes:

• The challenge of defining success in a world focused on material gains.
• How to respond to failure and the power of consistency in achieving goals.
• Reflections on personal loss and the ongoing journey of honoring loved ones.
• The lessons learned from grappling arts and how they translate to life off the mats.
• Parenting insights: showing up, regulating emotions, and setting an example for the next generation.

Episode Transcript

Tyler (00:07):
Alright. Welcome back. New episode. A new day.

Danny (00:09):
Lost Boy Scouts podcast. Lost Boy Scouts. Good to do the
clap anymore.

Tyler (00:12):
I don't think we need to do the clap anymore. It's so
easy now. Whatever I figuredout, it's, like, so easy.

Danny (00:16):
Yeah. You said that.

Tyler (00:17):
I'm really excited about how easy we've made it on our
I've ourselves. Yeah.

Danny (00:21):
Yeah. You said that, that, all it was was a quick
quick edit, and Yeah. We decidedto release, like, the following
day.

Tyler (00:30):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It it was it was really you know, you
get used to the tools. Right?
So, for those of you who want alittle insight into how the the
sausages made, we use Final CutPro to do all of our editing and
color grading and all that kindof stuff, like syncing the all
the, you know, intro and allthat stuff, the music. And, when

(00:52):
you're just dealing with onefile, just life is so easy.

Danny (00:57):
Do you see that it has, like, too much of, like, storage
and stuff? Like, are younoticing that you're you're
running out of room on some ofyour devices that you need to

Tyler (01:08):
Yeah.

Danny (01:08):
Unclutter?

Tyler (01:09):
Yeah. My, my server died.

Danny (01:12):
Oh, shit.

Tyler (01:12):
It's okay. Apple has a good trade in program right now.
They gave me $400 for it, and, Iwas able to swap it out, upgrade
my laptop. So we'll be editingon my laptop, which is, you
know, not ideal if you want alittle bit, but I think the new
m three chip and

Danny (01:29):
Yeah. My app I have a new MacBook that I got last year, I

Tyler (01:33):
think.

Danny (01:33):
And holy moly. Yeah. It's impressive. Yeah. It's yeah.
It it it's one of those thingswhere you're, like, because I'm
an Apple guy like you Yeah. Youknow, you as you upgrade, all of
a sudden, you're, like, what theheck? This thing is far past my
reach of

Tyler (01:47):
Yeah.

Danny (01:48):
Knowledge. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah.
So last, last time we kinda didthe year end review and Yeah. We
rushed through some of what wewere going through and what
what's happening. And so nowwe're, like, looking forward to,
like, the next couple of monthsof you know, you as you go on,
it's like chapters. Like, that'show I think about my my schedule

(02:10):
for the years Yeah. Chapters.
Right? Yeah. What what am Iworking on? Mhmm. What do I have
goal wise and expectations andrealistic setting?
Like, we talked about when youwhen you write that letter to
yourself, did you go overboard,or did you keep it realistic?
You know? And I hope ouraudience does some of those
things and and sets themselvesup for success. Right?

Tyler (02:31):
Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Danny (02:32):
You went to Saint George?

Tyler (02:34):
Went to Saint George for work. They do our annual, like,
it was typically sales kickoff,but I think they've incorporated
the whole company now. Right.Had an amazing opportunity to do
a couple hikes. It was just niceto be in the sun.
Like, I don't I can do the cold.I can't do the cold and the gray

Danny (02:50):
I agree.

Tyler (02:50):
Like, for very long.

Danny (02:51):
Agreed.

Tyler (02:52):
So even though it was only, like you know, there was a
couple days where I was in thelow, you know, mid forties, It
still felt, like, really warm.Yeah. High one day was, like,
52, and I was like, this issummertime.

Danny (03:02):
There we go.

Tyler (03:03):
Sun was it was blue skies and sunny. And and Your

Danny (03:08):
mom came out?

Tyler (03:09):
My mom came out, hung with kids. No drama there.

Danny (03:11):
That's good.

Tyler (03:13):
Yeah. She's stuck stuck around a couple extra days being
it's the you know, we're righton the right on the, you know,
the verge of the the anniversaryof Nick losing Nick. And Yeah. I
think she just needed some extratime with me, and I was totally
cool with it. We took her on abunch of errands that I had to
run that day when I got back.

Danny (03:30):
So Good.

Tyler (03:31):
She was just happy to just kinda tag along and

Danny (03:33):
Did she and she drove here and drove home?

Tyler (03:35):
Yeah. She she drove here and drove home.

Danny (03:37):
And how was did she make it home already?

Tyler (03:39):
Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (03:39):
She have plans for Monday?

Tyler (03:43):
I asked her that after you brought it up to me and on
on our phone call, I was like,oh, man. I should probably just
dive in a little bit more. So mydarling cousins, they they
bought a bench at a park inCastle Rock, Colorado.

Danny (03:59):
Okay.

Tyler (03:59):
And that is dedicated into the memory of Nick. And so
they are rallying people to toto just kinda be there on that
day. So I think she's planningon doing that and, you know,
just kinda being with with someof her her extended family
that's that's out there. She'sgot a a sister that's out there
and, obviously, you know, hernieces and nephews that were

(04:22):
close to Nick. The the boysNick's boys, are all planning on
being there.
They're gonna do a dinner. Yeah.So I've told my kids we're
ditching on Monday. We're gonnago play hooky. We'll go maybe
we'll go to a trampoline park orsomething.
I told my dad we'd we'd meet upfor dinner maybe Sunday night
and

Danny (04:40):
Oh, cool.

Tyler (04:41):
Hang out and

Danny (04:41):
Do you plan to go to training on Monday at all,
Monday night? Or would you be

Tyler (04:46):
I don't see why not. I don't see why not.

Danny (04:49):
Will you be making sure that the kids and because you'll
have the kids that

Tyler (04:55):
I will have the kids. You know, I think they'll be my goal
would be to get them out of thehouse most of the day so then
when we come back, like, it's Ican just slip out and

Danny (05:03):
They can do some homework and stuff, and you can go have
some you time and Yeah. Get yourmind off everything for the

Tyler (05:08):
Yeah, man. That that like, it's too important to my
routine to miss. I was so glad Iwent last week. I was sitting in
all these meetings. They gave usone free day, where they really
wanted us to go, like, meetexternal members, and, man, I
have so many thoughts on, like,my ability to make friends and,
like, how I act in crowds and,just a lot of enlightenment.

Danny (05:29):
But As far as critiquing, you you Yeah. My to yourself a
little bit.

Tyler (05:33):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But Wednesday, I was just, like, so
done with people that I waslike, I need to go train. Yeah.
I need to go train. Yeah. Yeah.And and so I think I got a lot
of people that were like, oh,wow. You you you're really
dedicated.
And I'm like, yeah. I choked outsome randos because I didn't
wanna choke

Danny (05:53):
you all out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's better for me to go
do this here in a safeenvironment than, than do it to
you where the not safeenvironment.

Tyler (06:03):
Right. Our CEO seems like a really good dude. I don't know
him that well, but you just seehim on stage, and they they all
just kinda have this swagger andthis arrogance, and you're just
like, I don't know I could chokeyou out.

Danny (06:15):
I got you.

Tyler (06:16):
Oh, yeah.

Danny (06:16):
Yeah. That's so funny.

Tyler (06:17):
Your back and make you squeal like a like a school
girl.

Danny (06:20):
That's so funny. And so yeah. So, you know, 6 days away
and and the the idea of of thatwhole year passing and where you
are different in your life andand how you'll address that will
be important going forward afteryear 1 because, man, after that,

(06:41):
it's kinda like

Tyler (06:43):
Yeah.

Danny (06:44):
What do you do? Yeah. You know, do you do do you honor
Nick on a certain day? Do youhonor Nick on a certain time?

Tyler (06:51):
Yeah.

Danny (06:51):
Do you every day be, like, no, I'm just grateful for
him so I don't have to, like,set time aside? You know, I
don't know about that kind ofthing. I always I know it's so
weird because you go, we're socrazy to think Yeah. That our
life is so great that we're notgonna experience loss. Yeah.
Right? Yeah. You're not gonnaexperience loss.

Tyler (07:11):
Yeah.

Danny (07:11):
Right? And loss like that.

Tyler (07:14):
Yeah.

Danny (07:14):
Right? And there's other losses that could be 10, 15
times worse

Tyler (07:19):
Sure.

Danny (07:20):
On you. Sure. And so you have to decide at those moments
of, like, how will I do thesememories? What will I do? And I
think, you know, hopefully, youguys figure that out, and it's
just something that you can goto every whatever you decide.

Tyler (07:34):
Yeah. I I mean, that's my that's my fear. Right? And I'm
sure our our listeners are kindagetting sick of us, you know,
just expressing about it, but,you know, I'm grateful for the
space that you hold. And, like,that's my biggest fear is, like,
losing that memory.

Danny (07:46):
Yeah.

Tyler (07:46):
Like, because I am grateful. He I am not would not
be the man I am today withouthim. Sure. I'm you know, I just
have so much more love for mynephews, for for his his, widow.
You know, and and it it is.
It's it's you know, I don't knowif it'll be a day. I don't know
if it'll just be, you know, wedo a some sort of celebration,

(08:08):
but I do see us, like, thatwe'll we'll probably pick a day
where, you know, we hate Nobooze. Yeah. We really just
yeah.

Danny (08:15):
You know, stay up the booze.

Tyler (08:16):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No.
I've I've been been pretty shyof it ever since his the poker
game that that his neighborhoodput me through. Yeah. Yeah. But,
yeah, you're you're absolutelyright. Like, just how do we
honor the memory and just kindareally

Danny (08:28):
Yeah.

Tyler (08:29):
Really remember.

Danny (08:30):
I think that's important to decide and to make sure that
you you have a plan because year1, you know, you're already
expecting it. After that, it's,like, probably gonna become one
of those things where you'llhave to remind yourself that
that happened, you know, becauseyour life is going to, like it's
crazy to how much in a year lifechanges. Oh, yeah. I Always

(08:53):
think about that, like, howcrazy you could like, you could
literally change the course ofdirection tomorrow of how your
life is going. You could changeit tomorrow.
You may not even see it until acouple days later. I honestly I
mean, like, this is such a youknow, it's a it's an interesting
way to look at things, but noway would I have thought that I

(09:14):
was where I'm at now

Tyler (09:16):
Mhmm.

Danny (09:16):
A year ago. No way. No way. I I would have thought that
I was doing something completelydifferent. Yeah.
Every time I see those kidswrestling and doing their thing
Yeah. You know, and see thelittle breakthroughs, I'm like,
man, this is kinda cool that I'mthat I'm seeing this again with
fresh eyes. Yeah. And so Ithought I think about like that
with, like, some of thosetragedies is, like, look at

(09:38):
things with fresh eyes. Youknow?
Look at things that you're like,I'm stoked about this. Yeah. I'm
excited for this, and and youcould be sad for a moment, but
remember, like, Nick doesn'twant that. No. You know, he
wants you to be stoked, though.

Tyler (09:50):
He wants us to he wants us to live. He was a liver of
life. Yeah. Absolutely.

Danny (09:54):
Yeah. And so for us, we have a lot of change going on in
our house as well, I told you,but Misty got a new job. She's
excited about it. She's gonna beworking at one of the health
and, wellness centers here intown, kinda running their, their
front office and managementstuff. And so we're excited
about that.
She's got a great personalityfor that, plus her work ethic is

(10:14):
second to none. Yeah. It's inI'm so inspired by her and so in
awe for her because, you know,she doesn't get regular days
off. She has her schedule Mhmm.And then the you know, then they
build her schedule, and then,okay, those are the days that I
don't go to work, and so she hasto plan all of her shit.
Mhmm. She plans her hair, hernails, all of that stuff a year

(10:34):
in advance, and then it's like,hey, I need this time off
because when she's scheduled forwork, she goes to work.

Tyler (10:41):
Yeah. That's incredible.

Danny (10:42):
Day off. She doesn't take, if she doesn't feel good,
she figures out a way to go towork. If she if if something's
bothering her, she figures out away to go to work.

Tyler (10:51):
Oh. She

Danny (10:52):
has to, like, do all this jumping through the hoops to
just to get somebody to cover ashift for her Yeah. Because
she's like, no. That's my job.And and I'm inspired by that
because my job is not like that.If I don't I don't wanna if I
don't wanna go in, I don't go inthat day.
Yeah. Whatever. I don't Well, I

Tyler (11:07):
don't you talk about planning, man. I'm I can barely
plan tomorrow, let alone, like,a year in advance. I'm like
Yeah.

Danny (11:15):
I went to breakfast with her and her new employers who we
know. We we we know them prettywell.

Tyler (11:22):
Yeah. We've we've repped them on the podcast because they
helped, they helped sponsor thethe, the The men's men's ascent.

Danny (11:28):
Yeah.

Tyler (11:28):
Of course we did.

Danny (11:29):
So she'll be at mountain Elite? Mountain elite Yeah.
Massage. Yeah. She'll be overthere, and she's with, those
they're great.
And I went to lunch breakfastwith them, and they're great.
They were they're so great. Andshe mentioned something that
she's she's she's like, youknow, I'm really gonna work on
my energy and how I my energyaffects people because what she

(11:49):
said was when you see CJ, her,she has, like, this quiet talk
and she, like, does this, like,the way she talks is really,
like, quiet and soothing. Andshe's like, I was in I really
was inspired to be a little bitmore like that, to be to work on
that because we come off like,you know Yeah. Yeah.

(12:10):
Barking all the time. Yeah.Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck,
fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, andshit, shit, shit, shit, shit,
shit, shit, shit, and let'sfucking go. And, you know,
you're like, yeah. Let's go.
Yeah. And she was like, I didn'tget that feeling from CJ at all.
And I was like, really cool forMisty to have that wherewithal
to see that and be like, no. Iwanna work on that.

Tyler (12:26):
There is there is definitely something special
about CJ. I got a massage fromher after I lost Nick, And, you
know, I've I've I've I've knownCJ for a long time. I've had the
the benefit of having a lot ofmassages from her, but, like, we
were just chatting, you know,and I'm kinda telling her the

(12:47):
story and, like, it's it'samazing. She's massaging me, and
she's just like this miracleworker. I I shoot you not.
She was just, like, sotherapeutic that, like, the next
day I went in to to dosomething, to drop something
off. And I swear she had a cold.Like, she got sick. Like,
whatever energy she pulled outof me, like, it affected her in

(13:09):
a way where she was physicallyfeeling it. What the I I swear I
swear on and and she was like,oh, no.
You love you're you're so Yeah.You're

Danny (13:16):
so She talks so good.

Tyler (13:18):
Yeah. Yeah. You know, she she downplayed it, but I was
like, there is no way she didnot take something from me
because I left there feelingcompletely different, a
completely different energy

Danny (13:28):
Right.

Tyler (13:29):
Than than when I went in. And, you know, to see her have a
cold, I just know that there isthere was some connection and
that energy there that, youknow, she's she's some she she
works magic.

Danny (13:39):
She does. Yeah. I don't know if you know this, and I
don't know if I'm supposed totell you, but they are putting
the sauna in there.

Tyler (13:46):
Yeah. She's she's mentioned that before. I feel

Danny (13:47):
like that's a good getting a sauna, so I'm excited
about that because they want aplace to like sauna, you know
Yeah. Like a consistent whilethings are going on for us. And
so with that, like, that's a bigchange in our household because,
you know, my goal, like I toldyou the first on this last
podcast was to work my ass offfor a 100 and 120 days. No

(14:10):
breaks, just work my butt off,and and and that's changed a
little bit in the last week,because part of, you know, what
I wanna talk about tonight isgauging your how do you gauge
success? Like, how do you gaugesuccess?
Like, how how do you seesuccess? How I asked my both my

(14:30):
boys, how do you gauge success?Because I asked my question
myself this question of, like,how do I see success? You know,
where how do I see it? Becauseit's such a broad spectrum of
things.
Right? And part of what I feellike is I'm I get these, like,
little jolts of energy insomething that I'm doing, but do

(14:53):
I stick it out to the end? Do I,like, stick it out to the end?
Jujitsu for sure. Like, there'sno end for that for me.
Right. So how do I find successthere? Yeah. You know? I get my
butt kicked every time I go inthere.

Tyler (15:07):
Yeah.

Danny (15:07):
There are times when I go in there that I'm like, I'm not
this is gonna suck tonight. I'mnot gonna do anything right.
Yeah. Am I the easy round? Yeah.
Remember when I told you Yeah.Yeah. Like, am I the easy am I
the rest fucking round? Yeah.You know?
And how do you how can I, like,how can I keep going back if I
don't feel success? Right? Yeah.Work. Where Where do I find
success?

(15:27):
Husband. How do I find success?

Tyler (15:28):
Yeah.

Danny (15:29):
Mother. How do I find success? In this big broad
spectrum. Mhmm. You know?
And so my question to you,Tyler, is is, do how do you
gauge success?

Tyler (15:39):
That is a great question. To be honest, I as you're
talking, I'm like, success isjust a social construct. It's
all of what we see. And I think,unfortunately, we live in a
country where success ismeasured by material

Danny (15:54):
Agreed.

Tyler (15:55):
Things or status about who you are,

Danny (15:58):
not what you are. Sure.

Tyler (16:00):
So I rely specifically in the jiu jitsu gym. I rely on on
my mentors, those upper beltsthat correct and complement my
game. Nothing feels better thangetting a compliment from
professor or an upper belt or,you know, even just having a
good round. Like, maybe maybeyou are the easy round, but you
have that one you have that oneround where you accomplish a

(16:24):
goal, you hit a sweep, or youYeah. Catch a submission, and
you're like, that's why I cametoday.
Yep. Right? So that's that'swhere I measure that success.
And I realized that, like, itthat's a harder measure for me,
and so I do rely on that kind ofexternal source of of
validation. Really, the whereI'd like to move to from a

(16:47):
business perspective, from, youknow, a a personal perspective
is, like, am I am I happy?
Am I accomplishing the thingsthat I want to accomplish? And I
think it's really hard to gaugebecause there's so much external
stimuli that that just blast youconstantly. Well, I'm not I'm

(17:07):
not driving the right car. Am Idriving the right car? Am I
living in the rightneighborhood?
Do I have, you know, the theright number of zeros in my bank
account? Because those are allthings that that people would
say are markers of success. Whenwhen, really, when you look at,
like, how fragile life is, man,maybe maybe just maintaining
health is success. Right?Because you talk to somebody

(17:29):
who's on life support or orgoing through cancer or battling
some sort of disease, you know,waking up in the morning might
just be a success.
Yeah. Yeah. You know? Somebodywho's struggling with sobriety,
success for them might just beone day sober at a time. And
every day you wake up and youyou hit that goal of being

(17:49):
sober, you are successful.

Danny (17:51):
Sure.

Tyler (17:52):
So I don't know that that that we need to, like I think we
need to determine your ownindividual markers. I don't
really necessarily know how todo it.

Danny (17:59):
And this is where I find interesting because as I'm
listening to you, this isexactly what happened with me
and my boys. Mhmm. Is my boys,they did the same thing. They
were, like, saying the samethings that you were saying.
Well, I just have this as asuccess.
I see this as success. Because Ithink as a man, It's really hard

(18:22):
to say, am I successful when youhave so much life left? Yeah.
Right. Am I successful?
Right. Am I successful? Did Idid I do something successful?
And I think my personal opinionabout success is how do I
respond to failure? Yeah.

(18:43):
Oh. Oh.

Tyler (18:44):
Say that again. Right? Yeah.

Danny (18:46):
How do I respond to it?

Tyler (18:47):
Yeah.

Danny (18:48):
How do I how do I respond to something not going my way?
Oh, yeah. Right? Yeah. That'sdeep.
How do I go tomorrow if I lostthe girl? Yeah. If I lost the
job? Yeah. If I lost somebodyclose to me?
How do I go? How do I wake uptomorrow and do the same thing

(19:08):
that I was supposed to do today?Yeah. Do the same thing. Yeah.
Right? Because as a man, it'sreally easy to get lost in your
own thoughts of why you're notsuccessful. Yeah. All these
things of, like, do you makeenough money? Mhmm.
Are you good looking enough? Doyou have the right body?

Tyler (19:28):
Right. Oh, yeah.

Danny (19:30):
Is your penis size the correct size?

Tyler (19:33):
Right.

Danny (19:34):
You know? Yeah. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
And you got you have all thesethese things out in front of you
that tell you no. Yeah. No.You're not.

Tyler (19:42):
Well, there's all these gurus. There's all these social
media.

Danny (19:45):
You have these 20 year olds that tell you how to
fucking live your life.

Tyler (19:48):
Yeah.

Danny (19:48):
I'm a I'm a life coach. Really? Yeah. How? Yeah.
Yeah. Could you imagine a 20year old telling you that you're
not successful, like, becauseyou don't have the same shit
that he does? Yeah. But it'slike, what if but but we go back
to the same thing. Like, how doI respond when I don't live up
to those expectations that Ihold of myself?

Tyler (20:08):
Yeah. Right? Yeah. I I think, you know, somebody who's
dealt with loss in a lot ofdifferent ways, like, for me,
I've had to start to reframethat loss as the universe is is
clearing something out to makeway for something better. Right?
And so whether or not I'm beingsuccessful at that or not is my

(20:33):
willingness to be receptive tothe message. Sure. My lack of
presence in the moment, in anymoment is really, you know,
that's where I I really shouldbe should be measuring my
success. Because if I'm futurefuture building or constantly
stuck on the future, then I'mmissing everything that's going

(20:55):
on around me. My kids will growup without me, you know, me
really being present becauseI'm, I'm worried about, you
know, living up to what MadisonAvenue, the marketers think is
important.
Maybe because that is whatthey've done traditionally.
They've told you that your lifeisn't good enough if you don't

(21:17):
have x y z product, and yourlife will be better if you
purchase x y z product.

Danny (21:21):
And you know what then happens? X y z products gets
version 2. Yep. And guess whatyou don't have?

Tyler (21:27):
Version 2.

Danny (21:28):
You don't have version 2.

Tyler (21:29):
Right.

Danny (21:29):
Everything in our life right now is, like, you need to
upgrade. Yeah. You need toupgrade this to make your life
better. Really? Really?
Yeah. Because I go back to myquestion about my question is is
how do you gauge success?

Tyler (21:42):
Right.

Danny (21:42):
Well, you know, something that, like I told you, that I
got from Alex Hermozzi was, whatwould 85 year old Danny Mhmm.
Think right now is to look backon my life and say, you were
successful.

Tyler (21:55):
Yeah.

Danny (21:56):
Because only I care. I truly only care about my
success. Right. Right. I wantyou, Tyler, to be successful.
I want you I want so bad foryour life to be successful, but
I'm not responsible to ensurethat you're successful. Yeah.
I'm responsible for my successesfor you to go like, oh, man. I'm

(22:17):
gonna keep up with Danny. Yeah.
Right? And so gauging it, thathas zero input to I mean, it
really doesn't matter to me whyyou gauge success. What matters
is, like, how do you respondwhen the shit hits the fan? Are
you running at the firefightYeah. Or are you running away
because you're, like, I'm toofucking I might I don't know

(22:38):
what to do.
Or you'd be like, fuck it. I'llfigure it out as I go.

Tyler (22:40):
Yeah. And there's probably opportunities for both.
Right? Like, need there's not tosay that one way or the other is
the the good way. Sometimes youmight need to retreat.
Right? Sometimes you might needto retreat and reevaluate.

Danny (22:50):
Yourself.

Tyler (22:51):
Yeah. Protect yourself. Is and and and sometimes you may
need to run into it. Right?What's the story of the buffalo?
Right? Like, the buffalo willrun through the storm storm.
Because it knows the better foodis at the, you know, at the end
of the storm.

Danny (23:04):
Yep. And and and so making this a full circle thing
is, like, just remember, like,for failures, like, if we don't
fail, if we're not puttingourselves out there to fail, if
we're not, like, going, youknow, going full steam ahead
sometimes. Yeah. We don't seehow far we can take things.

(23:26):
Right.
That's not like I mean, and I'mnot even I'm not I'm and I
definitely am not a proponent ofvices. Right. Vices are good and
bad, though. Right. Right.
But you have to, like, see thelimits of what you're capable
of.

Tyler (23:40):
Yeah.

Danny (23:40):
Right. And I believe that this right here, the fact that
we've been doing this for solong Yeah. And we are like,
nope. This is this is part ofour plan. Right.
This is our plan. If we were tobe, like, tomorrow, you know
what we should do? We shouldstart a podcast on this. We

(24:01):
should start and then in 5weeks, we get that, like, burst
of energy, and we're like, oh,but then oh, man. We have this
idea.

Tyler (24:07):
Yeah.

Danny (24:08):
But we stay consistent in this. Yeah. We stay in this
platform. We find out what we'retalking about. Yeah.
And I measure my success onthose kind of things.

Tyler (24:16):
Yeah. Right?

Danny (24:17):
What have I been doing long enough to be like, man, I'm
pretty good at that.

Tyler (24:20):
Yeah.

Danny (24:21):
I'm pretty good. I haven't quit. I've quit my job.
Yeah. I haven't quit my family.
Yeah. I haven't quit my my myjob as a husband.

Tyler (24:28):
Yeah.

Danny (24:28):
And I, for sure, haven't quit jujitsu and the grappling
arts. Right. You know? So thereare times that I think I'm
pretty good at that. Yeah.
You know? So I can measure Yeah.A little bit of success on that.
Yeah. Where I fail is when Idon't get that burst of energy,
and do I put my shoes on and dothe exact same thing tomorrow?

Tyler (24:48):
Right. When I think I think sometimes we we sometimes
we get so worried about failurethat we don't even start. And,
you know, I just came from downin the valley where I helped
host a it's called PrinciplesOver People.

Danny (25:01):
Okay.

Tyler (25:02):
It's it was set up by by my therapist. It's a men's group
he's trying to start this yearwhere we really talk about how
principles you know, how toapply principles to become a
better human being. And one ofthe things I brought up in the
meeting was that, like, we havethese experiences, positive and
or negative. It doesn't matter.They're they are experiences.

(25:22):
We can personalize them and makethem about us, and we can say,
poor me or look at me how greatI am, but that's not really the
point. Sure. The point is togain wisdom from these
experiences to propel youfurther.

Danny (25:34):
Sure.

Tyler (25:35):
Right? And so, you know, let's not personalize the
experience. Not let's notpersonalize what the external
world is telling us success is.Let's build our own definition,
and let's use our own wisdom andand hard work and and principled
efforts to to propel ourselvesforward. And while we're doing

(25:55):
it, if we can link arms and andraise other men up with us, why
not why not take a couple ofyour best fellows with you?
Yeah.

Danny (26:03):
Yeah. Why? Why? Why is it that as men, sometimes we like
shoot shots at each other tobreak each other down because
you do something better than meor you look different than me or
or just something and we get inthe way of each other Right. As
opposed to, like, we have acommon goal.
Yeah. Here's our common goal.Yeah. Let's let's figure out how

(26:26):
to get to that common goal, andthen you know what we should do?
The people that have done italready, we should ask them
questions.
Yes. And we should be like, hey,how did you do that? Yeah. Can
you show me how you did that?And if they are like, man,
nobody's ever asked me that Idid that.
Here's how I did it. And we'relike Yeah. Cool. Man, great. We
just gained We gainedperspective.

(26:46):
We gave insight. We gained theability to grow. Yeah. Right?
And if a man does not keep up,You don't have to cut him out,
but it's not your responsibilityto make sure he keeps up.

Tyler (27:04):
Yeah. Yeah. There's only so far you know, there's, like,
this whole theory about well,we've talked about lobsters, but
you put lobsters in a bucket.Right? They start pulling each
other down.

Danny (27:14):
Yeah.

Tyler (27:14):
Right? You you you you you can't you can't you you
know, you wanna surroundyourself with those people that
that push you to be better.

Danny (27:21):
No.

Tyler (27:22):
And, yeah, you you you don't wanna be hanging on to
dead weight. Get rid of thosefriends that are bringing you
down, that are keeping youstagnant. Yeah. Because I think
that's where that is truefailure. True failure is
remaining the same, remaining ina homeostasis because it feels
safe.

Danny (27:40):
Because it feels safe.

Tyler (27:41):
And that's what our brain often wants the trick us to do.
Right? All our brain cares aboutis being safe

Danny (27:47):
Yep.

Tyler (27:48):
And and maintaining safety. And and and it will
often create problems so that ithas, you know, a use. But a lot
of times, like, we have to be wehave to be smarter than our our
brain. Right? Like, we have toremember that we are in control.

Danny (28:03):
I agree. And I don't know the failures that 5 year years
ago, Tyler went through.

Tyler (28:10):
Yeah. I have

Danny (28:10):
no idea what 5 years ago Tyler looked like. Yeah. Same
with me. Right. You have no ideawhat what I was struggling with,
what I was going through 5 yearsago.
All you know is that where weare right now Yep. We bond.
Mhmm. We we fight for the samefight, and what we went through
brought us to where we are now.And it made us who we are.

(28:32):
Mhmm. It made us the strengththat we have. Right? And it's
obvious when you when you seewhen you do the same thing,
like, we do jujitsu. Yeah.
Right? We both practice jujitsu.I have 10 years of jujitsu under
my belt. You have a year ofjujitsu. We can see that.
Yeah. We can see that there's adisparity in the fact that,

(28:54):
like, I've been doing it longerthan you. Yeah. Right? But
living as a man, living as aman, we've both been doing the
same thing.
Yeah. And look at where we arenow. We look at where we are.
Look at who we are now. Yeah.
We wake up every day. We smile.We we go, and we do the things
that we're supposed to do. Westill go to our tribe. We still

(29:16):
practice something that makes usbetter.
We still accept failures. So canwe gauge our success off of
that? Yeah, for sure. Because wedon't look at the failures. We
don't think about the failuresthat we went through because
they weren't failures in oureyes.
They were they were learningblocks. They were learning
lessons, you know, because wedidn't give up. Yeah. We have

(29:38):
not stopped. Right.
And things have beat us down.There have been some things
that, like, beat the shit out ofyou. Oh, yeah. That beat the
shit out of you. Do you stillare like, man, I am struggling
with that today.
Yep. But Yeah. Your ability tobe successful outweighs your
ability to be like, fuck it. I'mtaking fuck it. Fuck it.

(29:59):
I'll just go drink myself to astripper.

Tyler (30:01):
Yeah. You

Danny (30:02):
know? And so I gauge your success. I can see Yeah. That
you're successful.

Tyler (30:06):
So so what you're saying is really that that the the
measure of success is in youryour ability to maintain
consistency Always. Rather thanyou you are successful if you
are maintaining consistencytowards whatever whatever your
your end outcome is.

Danny (30:23):
And always knowing that, like, when when shit hits the
fan, that you're not going tojust cower

Tyler (30:33):
Yeah.

Danny (30:33):
Curl under a ball and put somebody else out there to take
the damage. You're gonna belike, nope. I'm here. Yeah. I'm
good.
I'm good.

Tyler (30:40):
How would you measure your success as a parent? Is it
is it the same? Like, obviously,I'm you know, you're always a
parent. You even when yourchildren are are grown, and
maybe that dynamic changesshifts a little bit. Always.
But for the most part, you'restill the parent. You still
have, you know, years of wisdom,decades of wisdom that your

(31:03):
child doesn't have.

Danny (31:04):
Understand. And I think, especially in the fact that
parenting is so organic thateverything that you do is the
first time that you've donethat.

Tyler (31:17):
Yeah.

Danny (31:18):
Right? I think that's the first time I've done that. Maybe
I've had an experience wheresomething was close, but what my
kids give me is the first timethat I'm doing that at that
moment. Mhmm. Right?
And so you give yourself, like,leeway to make mistakes, but you
never ever ever ever Falter inthem knowing that you are there,

(31:38):
that no matter what, you'rethere. And so when you when
somebody pays a compliment toyou and you're like, man, see,
you have no idea what justhappened.

Tyler (31:48):
Yeah.

Danny (31:48):
In my house.

Tyler (31:49):
Yeah.

Danny (31:49):
And what I just said to my kid. And they're like, oh,
you have the greatest kids.You're the greatest. You guys
have a great relationship.You're like, you have no idea
what we just did.
Yeah. I think that you can sayto yourself, that's pretty good
success.

Tyler (32:03):
Right. Yeah. I think that's that's interesting too
specifically with relationships.Right? Your ability I I I
personally would measure thesuccess of my relationship based
on the ability to repair.

Danny (32:14):
Sure.

Tyler (32:14):
Because nobody's perfect. Right? You're gonna have those
moments when your nervous systemis just whacked and you you pop
off and yell at your kids. AndYeah. Not only do they need to
see you create and and initiatethat repair, they need to see
that humility because you'reteaching them that for their own
future interactions.
But, you know, it it's good foryou to to find that humility and

(32:37):
and to say, hey. That thiswasn't right.

Danny (32:39):
Yeah.

Tyler (32:40):
Let's correct this.

Danny (32:41):
Yeah. Regulation. Regulating things. We talked
about that before, like,regulating your emotions. Yeah.
Having your kids see youregulate yourself or dysregulate
yourself. Yeah. Could be a youknow, could could work both
ways. Right?

Tyler (32:54):
Yep.

Danny (32:55):
You're you're not regulated, and all of a sudden,
you're you're self medicatingand Yeah. Or you're you're,
like, yeah. Not today. Man, yourhead down on your phone all the
time. Yeah.
What do they do? They mimiceverything that you do.

Tyler (33:07):
Absolutely. Right?

Danny (33:10):
I think, like, for me and my boys especially, and I was
excited to ask you thatquestion. I want I almost, like,
texted it to you so many times,but I wanted to do it, like, in
live form. Yeah. Yeah. In liveform where you were, like, where
your brain goes Yeah.
Starts answering. Then you startthen you can digest it a little
bit. Yeah. And you can start tosee, like, that there are so

(33:31):
many ways to gauge Yeah. Butthere's so many ways to also,
like, critique.
Yeah. Critique. Maybe I'm not assuccessful as I thought I was.
Yeah. Yeah.
What maybe maybe this is why I'mnot, you know, doing the things
that I maybe something isgetting in the way. Maybe I'm
getting in the way Yeah. Ofseeing how great I actually am

(33:53):
as a man. You know, when youwhen you propose those kind of
questions and, like Yeah. All ofa sudden, it's like on the spot.
Boom. Now you have time todigest it. Yeah. Going forward,
like, my both my boys have havesince texted me other things
that they thought later on.

Tyler (34:13):
They can digest it. You know? It's it's true. I think
when you get in your own way ofsuccess, that's that's the exact
personalization I was talkingabout. Right?
We're personalizing an externalstimuli.

Danny (34:23):
Yeah.

Tyler (34:25):
Yeah. And I think it's good. I think it's good to be
reflective. I think it's good tobe like, let's put ourselves on
the spot and then have to reallythink about the question.

Danny (34:32):
Like, I

Tyler (34:33):
wanna hear what you have to say in the moment, and, then,
you know, let's see how yourbrain works out. I I I mean,
we're just giant computers.Right?

Danny (34:43):
So true.

Tyler (34:43):
Sometimes we take a little bit longer to compute
things than Yeah. Than thannecessary, but

Danny (34:50):
Yeah. And the one thing that we we both the the my boys
and I both talked about becauseI've been really trying to keep
to capture being in this momentand, like, not moving on and not
finding the next thing thatkeeps, like, that makes me
happy. You know, like, I'm asimple man. I do simple things,

(35:10):
you know, but there's someskills that I lack. Mhmm.
You know, some skills that Ijust don't quite know. And I'm
and and and sometimes it'sprobably because I'm afraid of
failing. For a couple of weeks,I put myself in bottom side
mount. I let guys mount me. Italked about that.

Tyler (35:29):
Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (35:30):
And it sucked, you know, and I got a rib injury now, so I
can't quite do it. But I I don'twant to go down there, you know,
but I'm willing to go down thereand struggle. I do not know
Excel or any of thosespreadsheet stuff, but I really
wanna learn how to do them. Andso I've decided, like, the next
couple of my next couple ofmonths, I'm going to sit and

(35:52):
just be okay not knowing. And soI'm gonna ask a lot of questions
like, hey, what would you dohere?
Like, what do you do there? AndI don't know what's gonna
happen. I I really don't.

Tyler (36:01):
I think you're gonna be on the have you seen like the
Excel spreadsheet games?

Danny (36:05):
No.

Tyler (36:05):
No. There is like a legit competition for Excel

Danny (36:08):
Really?

Tyler (36:09):
That that, like, formulas and and that kind of stuff.
Yeah. It it's it's intense.These guys are fast.

Danny (36:16):
It's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I have no idea about those
things, but I want to get betterat them. I think, like, for my
own personal businesses andbusiness things, I need to know
that I can, like, focus on askill set and just stick to that
skill set.
Yeah. And I think it willbenefit me and future endeavors

(36:37):
if I am able to accept the factthat I just don't know. Yeah.
And that shouldn't be a reasonto stop. Mhmm.
Because if I stop jujitsubecause I didn't know jujitsu, I
wouldn't be where I'm at today.And if I take the same, take the
same look and I take the sameideas about that and approach
them the same way, just behumble and grateful that people
are willing to accept the factthat I'm I fumble fuck this

(37:00):
thing like crazy.

Tyler (37:01):
Yeah.

Danny (37:02):
What do I do with this? How do I create this? And, you
know, tell me the same thing 10different times.

Tyler (37:07):
Yeah.

Danny (37:08):
You know? So you gotta learn somewhere. Yeah. You know?
And so I I we've we we allcommitted to the fact that,
like, there's just some skillsthat we're gonna get better at.
Yeah. You know? And I thinkthat's that that's a measure of
a man.

Tyler (37:22):
Yeah. I think that's that's so true.

Danny (37:24):
Any skills that you're, like, working on currently that
you're like, I don't know whatto do or how to do this, so I'm
going to figure it out?

Tyler (37:30):
On the opposite end of that, are there any skills
you're like, I I don't needthat. I will never need that.

Danny (37:34):
No. I don't know.

Tyler (37:35):
You don't know? No.

Danny (37:36):
What about you?

Tyler (37:37):
That's what I'm saying.

Danny (37:37):
Do you have any skills that you're working on right
now?

Tyler (37:40):
Yeah. I mean, obviously, with each episode of the the
podcast that comes out, I wentback and I look at, like, how is
our color looking in Yeah. Like,over the life of the episodes.
And I'm noticing that, like,it's kind of all over the place.
Right?
So I'm I'm trying to get morestandardized in in doing that.
Like, for me, this is it's it'skind of a hobby. I know that
there's plenty of people outthere that do this

(38:01):
professionally, but, like, youyou know, making sure that we we
have a kind of a professionallook to what we do here, is is
important to me. Right? Like, itit may just be 2 dudes sitting
in, you know, a studio, like,rapping to each other, but,
like, I want there to be a levelof professionalism.
Like, that's why I invested inin equipment that, like, will

(38:23):
help capture and and and engagethe audience. Right? Like, could
you imagine that how terriblethis would be listened to if it
was just, like, you and I on ourphone, like, yeah, trying to
record?

Danny (38:33):
It goes back to that whole idea of, like, this
version of Tyler Mhmm. Whatcould teach this version of
Tyler, what he could teachepisode 1 version of Tyler.
Yeah. Like, imagine, like, if ifepisode 1 version of Tyler seen
now, what what this version ofTyler, he'd be like, damn, you
made it this far, bro. Yeah.
I mean, like, in 47 episodesYeah. Some people, I've heard,

(38:56):
people have said, you guys soundlike you've been doing this for
your, like, 10 years.

Tyler (39:00):
Yeah.

Danny (39:01):
It's like, no, we've not been doing it for that long.
They're like, holy crap. Howfast how fast you've you've made
it because it's like what yousaid is consistent. Yeah. It's
always consistent.

Tyler (39:11):
Always consistency.

Danny (39:12):
What about skills that you don't think you need? So you
absolutely don't think you need.

Tyler (39:17):
Skills I don't think I need. It's hard to say. Yeah. I
I don't know if there's anythingthat, you know, I guess
probably, like, roof a house.

Danny (39:27):
I was gonna say I have one. I have one that I just
thought of. Yeah. Handle a gun.Like, I Yeah.
I truly don't know if I needthat. Yeah. I have no idea how
to how to, anything about ahandgun. Yeah. I've been around
rifles, and I've hunted andstuff, you know, and I don't
like them still.
Yeah. Yeah. But I I truly haveonly, like, had a handgun in my

(39:49):
hand maybe less than 5 times forsure.

Tyler (39:53):
I think it's 1

Danny (39:54):
of those if I need it. Yeah. Sorry.

Tyler (39:55):
Oh, no. I think you're absolutely right. I kinda maybe
I'm on the other end of that.I'm like, I I it's something I
don't know. Maybe I shouldn'ttell the story of the podcast.
It's one of those things I sworewould go to the grave with you.
I had a negligent justdischarged with a handgun.

Danny (40:09):
You did.

Tyler (40:10):
And it scared the absolute shit out of me to the
point where I'm like, myneighbors are gonna call the
police, so I'm gonna beat themto it. I was cleaning it and
just new to guns, and, yeah, itwent off in my house. Luckily,
my family was all off. Nobodywas around.

Danny (40:29):
I have the most inappropriate joke Do it. That I
just thought of when you saidthat. It's a very inappropriate
joke. You just do it. It's thefirst time, you know, as a guy,
a young guy Yeah.
Here in the shower.

Tyler (40:40):
Yeah.

Danny (40:41):
You start cleaning your cleaner, and all of a sudden it
went off.

Tyler (40:46):
What is this what is the saying? This is my rifle. This
is

Danny (40:49):
my gun.

Tyler (40:50):
1 is true.

Danny (40:50):
I tell that people all the time, like

Tyler (40:52):
Yeah.

Danny (40:52):
I say that all the time. When you said that, it reminded
me of my joke when I'm like, oh,yeah. It was my winner once and
it went off. Dude. Really?
Yeah. So do you remember Jordanblue belt down in Lehigh? Yeah.
He dry fired his gun and it wasloaded and shot his hand. Do you
remember that?

Tyler (41:10):
I didn't know that.

Danny (41:10):
Did you see the picture? Uh-uh. Brutal. Yeah. Shot, put
his I I I don't really know whatthis means, but dry fired.

Tyler (41:18):
Yeah. I mean, that's essentially what I I thought. I
didn't know. There's adifference between, like,
hammerless guns, which don'thave, like, you know, the the
typical right? And the the gun Iwas using was was hammerless,
and so you couldn't tell,

Danny (41:33):
like, when I Cocked it. Cocked it.

Tyler (41:35):
They racked it that there was a there's one in the
chamber. I wasn't I didn't havethe skills as a new gun owner to
to do that. And I'm assumingthat's that sounds

Danny (41:44):
He I guess, he held it to his hand, pulled the trigger,
and I guess there's there's noway to make it's one of the gun.
I'm probably fucking this up.Put the handgun to his hand, and
he'd done it a 1000000 times, Iguess, where it, like, pulls the
trigger and it doesn't doanything because it doesn't have
a way to do it.

Tyler (42:01):
Yeah. If you push the slide back a little bit, it it
won't you won't shoot the gun.The guy the gun won't physically
fire.

Danny (42:09):
That's what he and boom and shot his hand. It blew out
the backside of his hand, whichto me is, like, again, why I'm
not ever doing that kind ofthing.

Tyler (42:20):
Yeah. It was sorry. Go ahead.

Danny (42:22):
Go ahead. No. You I was

Tyler (42:23):
gonna say it was one of those things where, like, after
that, like I mean, I to me, thethe the second amendment is use
it or lose it. Right? Like so Ijust took it upon myself to get
every bit of training I could Icould take every bit of
training, and then to pass thattraining down to my kids. I
mean, the the the secondamendment was built, you know,
was established for a reason,and I hope to god we never have

(42:47):
to to get to that because it'sit's bloody and it's horrible.
And I hope that I never have touse it.
Did you see the story on thethat that popped up just
recently? This body cam footageof a gentleman you in Utah,
caught in the act of stabbinghis parents. And the cops have
like, they bust in the door. Andthat footage just popped up just

(43:07):
recently, like, in the last fewdays. I hope to never be in
those situations.
I don't wanna be in thosesituations. I'm really grateful
for people that have the mentaland emotional capacity to do
those those type of things. And,you know, if you guys ever need
to rap about it and Yeah. Youknow, wanna just chat, like,
well, I'll I'll I'll I'll listenbecause I'm really grateful for
what you do Yeah. So I don'thave to do it.

(43:28):
Because I I'm I'm like you.Like, I I definitely don't like,
I went through a phase where,like, I felt like I needed a gun
to be safe, and I'm like, Idon't I I don't think I'm there
anymore. Right? Like, I don'tthink I don't think that's quite
the case. And I think that was alot a lot of my ego.
A lot of my ego was like, oh,you need to have these guns, and

(43:49):
now you're, like, cooked.You're, like, badass because
you're, like, Jason Bourne orwhatever. Like, cool gun, you
know, John Wick or whatever. Andyou're like

Danny (43:58):
I'd be the guy that, like, stuck my gun in my pocket
and shot myself to the leg.Like, fuck. I'd be that guy.
Who's that guy's name? Becausethat's who I'd be.
Yeah. Yeah. Whoever thatknucklehead is. Yeah. Yeah.
You know?

Tyler (44:07):
That that was did you ever see that video of the
there's that cop teachingteaching an inner city school
about the 9 millimeter, and hedischarged and shoots himself
right in the leg.

Danny (44:18):
Oh my gosh.

Tyler (44:19):
And you're like, it's not a toy. It's a toy. I'm good.

Danny (44:23):
I swear to god. Yeah. Somebody get a tourniquet. Yeah.
Right?
I I the I have so many storiesof people that I know that have
done stupid shit with a gun, andI think that's why I don't need
one. But, again, a skill set,like, that I just I don't think
I I I don't know if I need it. Iprobably do. Like, I probably

(44:44):
need to get more comfortablearound them, but I'm terrified
of them. Terrified of them.
Yeah. I'm terrified of what theywill do or what what, you know,
like, I was talking to the I wasteaching the Tripp and I were
teaching the white to blue belt,moves or class the other day.
And, I was telling him, I was,like, the greatest thing about
jujitsu that I've learned isthat I just say sorry, walk
away. Because I have no ideathat could you imagine seeing

(45:07):
trip meeting Tristan, you don'tknow him, thinking that you
could kick this punk's Right.Ass and that dude tunes you up,
and you're, like, what the hell?
Anthony's clearly Anthony, youlook at Anthony, like, yeah, I'm
not fucking with him. Yeah.Tripp, you're like, I wanna fuck
with him. Yeah. And that dudewould hurt you just the same.
So I don't know what I don'tknow what people know. So I'm
like, no, man. I just wannasmile and go about my way and

(45:28):
fist bump and be, like, hey,what's Yeah. Sorry, you know?

Tyler (45:30):
Yeah.

Danny (45:31):
Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know, man. That was in we we'd
been having this conversationwith me and my boys the other
day, and it it it brings me backto the things that we're trying
to do with with this wholeplatform.

Tyler (45:45):
Yeah.

Danny (45:45):
And the idea that I know I know for a fact that we stay
consistent in what we're doing,and we don't we don't wander, we
don't falter. We we stay in ourlane that we're doing with with
our paths that we've set. Yeah.And in who knows? It could be 5
years.
Could be 10 years. But thosepeople that meet us in 10 years

(46:06):
will never know the strugglesthat we went through to get
there. Yeah. You know? And sothis right here to me is how I
gauge it because I think we aremoving in the right direction.

Tyler (46:18):
Dude, super insightful. I appreciate the topic.

Danny (46:21):
You with your working towards your masters on to help
with family therapy and to helpwith therapy, myself continuing
to breathe and work with HighLife breathing and and getting
it getting those those ideas outthere along with what we're
doing on on this platform Mhmm.Is only gonna project us and
propel us to be very successfulmen

Tyler (46:42):
Mhmm.

Danny (46:42):
That people look to and be like, oh, I wanna be like
Tyler and Dan.

Tyler (46:46):
Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (46:46):
You know? And the guys that are just barely starting,
like, their podcast stuff andtheir Yeah. Their social media
stuff are, like, asking usquestions like we are like, we
like, we know how we're doing.Yeah. You know, we're like,
shit, man.
We go and do a basement and justYeah. Get down and talk and one
rap, and we're going. And Yeah.I think it's amazing. And so I
think if if if that's all ifthat's it, if that's it, 85 year

(47:09):
old Danny will be stoked Yeah.
That I experienced this in mylife. Right. You know what

Tyler (47:13):
I mean? We put it out there. It's gonna live on
YouTube forever.

Danny (47:16):
I know. And I have a friend like you. Yeah. You know?

Tyler (47:18):
For sure.

Danny (47:19):
Because because we're pretty busy right now. We don't
see each other as much as wehave before in the past. Yeah.
But it's not like I get upset oranything because I'm just stoked
that that you're doing whatyou're doing.

Tyler (47:31):
It's it is it is amazing because I do feel like we have
one of those friendships where,like, it it is busy. You got the
wrestling, and I'm working. And,like, I well, we'll check-in on
each other. You were very goodat, like, I'm I hope I'm doing
better at, like, you know, hey.I haven't heard from you in a
few days.
Like, let's just check-in. Butit's like it's never one of
those things where it's like weI feel like we could pick up

(47:51):
right where we left off, and Ithink that's the beautiful thing
about that about ourrelationship. So, yeah, super
grateful for that.

Danny (47:57):
Yeah. What you got coming up

Tyler (47:59):
a couple weeks? Man, just trying to keep warm. Dude. It is
stupid cold. Yes.
Stupid cold.

Danny (48:06):
Insane. Yeah. I had to I put every layer of clothing that
I possibly could put on Yeah.Just to go outside. Yeah.
Yeah. So gross. I got I don't

Tyler (48:15):
I don't have much going on, you know, Just keeping
keeping warm. I don't think I'mgonna make it to Florida Florida
this year.

Danny (48:22):
Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler (48:24):
I'm I'm super bummed about it, but just budget wise,
that's that's one of the otherthings I'm trying to work on.
I'm trying to get good withmoney. Get good with money. I
got that's the name of the bookI'm reading right now.

Danny (48:35):
Get good with money.

Tyler (48:36):
Get good with money. Guys. Because I like money and
money likes me. Yeah. Sure.
Yeah. So we're we're trying toget good with it.

Danny (48:41):
Good. Good.

Tyler (48:43):
So really just just training, you know, gonna try to
ski a little bit and, you know,just be with my kids.

Danny (48:53):
Yeah. And, yeah. Hopefully, I'm I'm trying my
hardest to get off next Mondayso I can come train and see you
guys and make sure I'm there foryou that night. Yeah. We got
we're busy with wrestling.
Well, I Florida. And then comehome, wrestle for a couple days,
and then leave New Mexico

Tyler (49:12):
Yeah.

Danny (49:13):
Couple days.

Tyler (49:13):
Do you have any, contenders for state?

Danny (49:17):
No. No.

Tyler (49:17):
The new too new of a program?

Danny (49:19):
But we do have some kids that will definitely turn some
heads. Cool. We have we are afledgling program. We are
learning a lot with each other.It's it's a very cool dynamic to
have a father and son be able tobe Yeah.
On the same page, and we have 2of those. Me and Tristan and
then Larry and Jared, bothfather and sons, and we get

(49:41):
along. We'd you know, we don'tbutt heads over everything. We
let we let the proof be in thepudding. Yeah.
The kids are starting to buy in.We're really working hard on
mentality right now. We'rereally working hard on, like,
enjoying the moment and, like,feeling like you belong there
and not, like, I'm a poser andbecause some of these kids are
really, really good and, like,you can get really, really good

(50:03):
with wrestling in a very shortamount of time if you trust
every single thing that thecoach teaches you and you do
exactly the way the coachteaches you. If you think, oh,
I'm a do it this way, it's justlike jujitsu. If we did it our
own way Yeah.
We have to go back and correctso much. Yeah. So if we just do
it the way the professor teachesus, then you're 5, 10, 15 steps

(50:25):
ahead of everybody else. Right?Yeah.

Tyler (50:26):
Because you're like,

Danny (50:27):
oh, I've seen this before. Oh, I've seen this
before. Oh, I've seen thisbefore. So it's repetitive.
Right?
Yep. And with grappling arts,repetitive repetitiveness is the
key. You just do the same thingover and over and over and over,
and then you find little tricksto get you back to that position
that's makes you happy again.That's how wrestling is. So I
think that we'll turn someheads.
I think that we'll improve alot, and, I'm excited. Learning

(50:51):
the parent side and the budgetside and the bullshit Yeah. Is
not fun. I was on a conversationwith Kurt, Fudge today, who,
thank goodness, he takes thetime. He's so busy.
But we're on an hourconversation of just some of
these things that I just gottaget better at, you know, which
is why I did this so thatTristan didn't have to deal with
the shit that that I have todeal with, which is the books

(51:12):
and the bullshit. Yeah. It's alot. Yeah. Yeah.
So I appreciate thisconversation. I'm so excited to
talk to you about this. Yeah. Iwas like, I'll I'm not even
joking when I tell you. I almosttexted you last night so you
could have preparation.

Tyler (51:26):
I'm so glad you didn't.

Danny (51:27):
Yeah. So So

Tyler (51:28):
glad you did. It makes the conversation that much more
organic and authentic. Andthat's what we strive for.
Right? Like, no, you know, nofilters on this on this, this.
It's it's raw. It's real. It'swhat it it's, you know I agree.
Then maybe a little bit ofediting, but

Danny (51:44):
Yeah. Nothing that takes away from the

Tyler (51:45):
whole

Danny (51:46):
Yeah. The whole dynamic of it. So cool, man. Well, I
appreciate you.

Tyler (51:49):
Yeah. Appreciate you.

Danny (51:50):
Grateful for you.

Tyler (51:51):
And here's to our listeners. Thank you. Hit us up
on socials. Yep. If you gotquestions, if you want a topic
that we wanna or a book you wantus to review Yep.
We're we're we're taking ideasand and open to discussing
things that that maybe you'restruggling with.

Danny (52:04):
Yeah. For sure. And, come see me at Highlife Breathing if
you're looking to get into anykind of breathing help with your
life, if you're just looking forspace, we can hold space, we can
both both do that for men. Ifyou're looking for paths, things
to change, areas that toimprove, don't be that guy that

(52:26):
just beats the shit up beats theshit out of yourself Right.
Because you don't see yourselfas who society's supposed to see
you as.
Yep. Keep keep hanging in therebecause

Tyler (52:38):
Keep fighting the good fight.

Danny (52:39):
Shit's not that serious.

Tyler (52:40):
It's not that serious.

Danny (52:41):
Sunday open mat Sunday open mats?

Tyler (52:43):
Yes. I'll be there.

Danny (52:44):
Come come see us in

Tyler (52:45):
Come see us in open mat. Yeah. Especially if you
disagree.

Danny (52:47):
Come hang out. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Alright.
Cheers, everybody. Cheers.