Manifesting the Dark

After an extended break, Danny and Tyler reunite in this deeply personal and unfiltered episode. Tyler shares raw updates from his ongoing battle with cancer, including the grueling reality of daily treatments, mental burnout, and the quiet moments that test his resilience. Together, they explore how manifesting isn’t just about positive thinking—it’s about confronting the darkness too. Meanwhile, Danny reflects on his own crossroads, from wrestling triumphs and family shifts to the looming uncertainty of retirement. It’s an episode about transformation, support, and showing up—even when it’s hard.
Episode Highlights:

• Tyler’s Cancer Treatment Journey
• Tyler opens up about being in remission but still undergoing “consolidation” treatments—five days a week of arsenic drips, migraines, nausea, and emotional fatigue.
• Mental Health, Isolation & the Weight of Routine
• The two friends reflect on how the mundane rhythm of illness can lead to some of the darkest mental spaces. Tyler discusses being stuck between survival and self-care, while Danny highlights the importance of perspective and support.
• Manifesting the Dark
• Tyler introduces a twist on the typical self-help narrative: what happens when we subconsciously manifest the negative? It leads to a raw discussion about owning your mindset, even when hope feels distant.
• Vegas Lessons & $96 Beers
• Danny recounts his recent trip to Vegas—from coaching at national wrestling events to financial frustration and poolside letdowns. It’s both hilarious and humbling.
• The Anxiety of What’s Next
• Danny considers retirement while Tyler wonders what life after cancer treatment will look like. Both men wrestle with change, purpose, and the pressure to “have it all figured out.”
• Returning to the Mat
• Tyler talks about the emotional pull of jiu-jitsu, the brotherhood it brings, and why stepping back onto the mat—even for one roll—could be healing.
• Community Shoutouts & Gratitude
• A special shoutout to ATC Jeremy for his creative grind and continued support. The episode closes with a nod to the friendships that keep us going through the darkest chapters.

Episode Transcript

Danny (00:00):
It's been so long. It has been so long. Oh my gosh.
Downstairs.

Tyler (00:12):
I'm in the basement. I'm breaking the rules. Yeah.

Danny (00:15):
What is it? Just for all intents and purposes, we're
yeah, we the last time werecorded, we were upstairs
because you had just got home.Yep. And then I guess I didn't
realize the the length and thewhat what exactly you were going
through or what what was gonnahappen because from what I at

(00:35):
first, what I thought was, doesthat need to be plugged in?

Tyler (00:39):
It should it's it's better if it does. It is.

Danny (00:44):
I'm not sure if it's gonna go out.

Tyler (00:46):
It's for so long we, like, dropped a few ranks.

Danny (00:48):
Yeah. I know.

Tyler (00:49):
It's been so long.

Danny (00:50):
It has been a long time. But for for what I gathered when
we first started talking wasthat you would be in the
hospital once a week, everyfourth week.

Tyler (01:03):
Oh, yeah.

Danny (01:03):
But that's not what it would that's what now it is. It
actually is a little bit moreintense than what I thought.

Tyler (01:07):
Yeah. So, yeah, basically, what happens now, I'm
in consolidation. I'm inremission. Right? The cancer's
gone.
K. They're just, you know, makedoing these what they they call
consolidation treatments to makesure that it's gone. Okay. And
so it's four weeks on, fourweeks off. K.
So I'm just about Friday, I'llbe this is the end of my third

(01:30):
week of consolidation. So I takeI you know, so I have to go in
and I get the arsenic. It's adrip. It takes about two and a
half hours. It takes longer thanthat because it's

Danny (01:41):
Every day.

Tyler (01:41):
Every day, Monday through Friday.

Danny (01:46):
And then you have the weekends off.

Tyler (01:47):
I have the weekends off.

Danny (01:48):
And then and so today, you were telling me that you had
been you were trying to get itinto, like, a routine where you
go at the same time every everyevery day.

Tyler (01:58):
I've gotten that part of the treatment like good. It's
like everything else, though.Now my life kind of revolves
around

Danny (02:06):
Sure.

Tyler (02:07):
This this big appointment.

Danny (02:09):
Sure. Being healthy. Yeah. And so so what ended up
happening was is we had allthese ideas that we were going
to be able to, like, record on aconsistent basis. We haven't
recorded since that time.
Yeah. Because you got the firsttreatment, which was down in
Salt Lake and you got good news.Your immune system was great.

(02:31):
Yeah. Everything is good.
It's it's everything is good andyou you hit this high. Yeah. And
then you head to the academy,you're hanging out, you're like
bullshitting with everybody. Andthen I called you the next day
and you're like, dude, I thinkI'm gonna die. Yeah.
And I was like, what the fuck isgoing on, Tyler? And you're
like, bro, something's wrong.And so that first round of

(02:54):
arsenic from home Yeah. Was alearning experience. Right?

Tyler (02:57):
It it's that that's kind of my next nervous checkpoint.
Right? Because I was two weeksoff. Right?

Danny (03:03):
Sure.

Tyler (03:03):
I was off arsenic and the atra for two weeks. My next
break is, like, four weeks.Right? So I'm hoping that, like,
it was just nausea. It was,like, the worst vomiting, like,
couldn't keep anything down.

Danny (03:17):
Headache.

Tyler (03:18):
Headache, migraine, dehydration. Yeah. I mean, it
was just evacuate everything.

Danny (03:23):
And you and you had the doctors were yeah. Mean, the
doctors are the doctors aremonitoring that stuff while
you're going through it in thehospital. So you did not have
anything to base this on. Youwere like, no, it's going to be
great. And next thing you know,

Tyler (03:34):
I wish. Yeah. My my inpatient experience is what I
had. Right? Which is verycontrolled.
They've got a cocktail foreverything. I do have like a
twenty four hour phone line Ican call.

Danny (03:44):
So you told me.

Tyler (03:45):
And I did call Tuesday night, and I was like, I this is

Danny (03:50):
Something's wrong.

Tyler (03:50):
Something maybe it was Monday night because it I had
never been that nauseous. That'swhat you said. I got home. Maybe
it was the drive home. I don'tknow.
I haven't been as nauseoussince.

Danny (04:00):
Yeah.

Tyler (04:00):
But I've also, like, built up, you know, so I don't
know. It's it's it is for me,it's a little bit of, like,
experimenting with what what amI gonna expect.

Danny (04:07):
And it's constant learning Mhmm. And constant
adjusting because for one, youyour your regulation is off.
Mhmm. Two, your your yourlifestyle is off. Mhmm.
And three, it's you're still inthe fight. Yeah. You're still in
the fight a hundred miles anhour, and it's like, well, what
what do you what can you do totake care of my body to keep my

(04:29):
regulation going Yeah. And tokeep me sane.

Tyler (04:33):
Yeah. It's it's it's gotten pretty I'll I'll be
honest. I've had some prettydark just dark days just, like,
in my house, treatment in myhouse. Like, I'm not doing
things. I I got word that my ANCthis Monday was, like, round
five, which is, like, perfect.
No. And that's pretty awesomegoing into week two. They took

(04:54):
it Tuesday, and it had droppedto 3.7. So, you know, you want
three is pretty good. Like, Ifeel good about ANC Stamford.

Danny (05:02):
You know?

Tyler (05:03):
I don't know. I I I I have to go back and read it. I I
I wrote it

Danny (05:07):
sort of medical terminology for your immune
system.

Tyler (05:09):
Yeah. It's the your free antibodies, you know

Danny (05:12):
Of what your body's doing. Your body's taking care
of itself. Yeah. But your mindis getting the best of you. Yes.
Right? Because it's mundane.

Tyler (05:21):
A %.

Danny (05:22):
It's 100% mundane.

Tyler (05:23):
Oh, %.

Danny (05:24):
Yeah. Because there's times when we're talking that
I'm like, Tyler

Tyler (05:27):
Yeah.

Danny (05:28):
Get out of this. Yeah. Yeah. Come on, man. Like,
remember where you're at.
But but, again, I'm not in the Imean, like, I'm not in the
fight. Like, I'm I'm I'm on thesidelines cheering on my best
friend.

Tyler (05:37):
Yeah.

Danny (05:37):
Cheering him on like, hey, man. You're still going.
You're still sprinting. You'refucking fine. And you're like,
yeah.
Yeah. Leave me the fuck alone.Yeah. I'm not. But but but but
that's the but that's thereality of it.
Yeah. Like, something like thishits you that hard and and you
have no you have no baseline.No. There's no baseline. There's
no there's no there's no chartto look at.

(05:58):
There's no there's nothing to,like, be people will be like,
man, I hear you. I know whatyou're going through, and this
is so great. And you have thesefriends that that maybe, like,
know what you're going through,you know, like friends from the
hospital and things that knowwhat you're going through. But
do they?

Tyler (06:13):
Do they know what you're going through? Yeah. Yeah. And
for me, it's even hard, right?Like, I see such a worse level
going into these treatments.
My mom accompanied me thisMonday and there was a lady in
there. It was just her firsttreatment. And I don't know what
she's getting. Most of thecancer of excuse me, all of the

(06:34):
cancers in my where I go are areblood based cancers.

Danny (06:38):
Blood based cancer.

Tyler (06:39):
So lots of, you know, bone marrow transplants or and
things like that. But they theyI mean, there's sick people in
the the room, and it's just likea big room where everybody's
given IVs. You know? Do you

Danny (06:49):
see them? Are they are you, like, this close

Tyler (06:50):
to Yeah. I mean, it's pretty it's pretty tight
quarters. There's just like alittle sheet curtain that they
they pull around. The heck? Youknow?
So you can, you know, you youyou can hear them, you know,
being really sick. And I'll tryto get those people to a room.
And it's it's pretty it's prettyinteresting at the the clinic.

Danny (07:07):
And does that weigh on your mind as well? Like, does
that does that heavy as fuck?

Tyler (07:11):
I mean, you just like you you yeah. You're just kinda like
watching people's lives change.You know what I mean? Like

Danny (07:17):
Yeah. And you know you know what it's you know what
they're going through. You know?Yeah. You're in the fight.
You're in the moment.

Tyler (07:22):
Yeah.

Danny (07:23):
And and we've talked about this a hundred times, you
know, like Yeah. Men are fixers.Men are like men are like, okay,
I can fix this. I can fix this.And they're not menders.

Tyler (07:33):
Yeah.

Danny (07:33):
You you're not you're not pillows.

Tyler (07:34):
Yeah.

Danny (07:35):
We're not pillows. We're not built for we're not built
for that. We're built for war.We're built fighting, you know?
And and when you don't when youdon't know if you're fighting or
if it's like, and maybe todayyou just need to chill or relax.
You're not built for that.

Tyler (07:50):
Yeah. It's it is it's tough because I don't I like I
said, I've said all I've said alot. I don't feel that like,
there's been times where I'vebeen incredibly sick. Right? A
period of time.
Right? Days. But I really like,today, yesterday, like, I've
gotten into a rhythm since we'vedialed in the the the
medication. I'm like, I reallynow that we're now that we're

(08:11):
kinda dialed, I feel pretty goodgoing through treatment. I mean,
this afternoon, I was a littlelittle queasy when I got home,
but you're right.
Yeah. It it is I I just havethis in this insane desire to,
like, push myself, and I have tojust I have to just keep kind of
keep pulling the reins back in.

Danny (08:29):
Yeah. You have to. Because you don't know what
mean, what if you push yourselftoo hard and then Yeah. But, I
mean, because, like, what wouldlet's say let's say middle case,
not bad, worst case scenario.Yeah.
But if you push yourself hard,you're back in the hospital.
Yeah. Not for cancer.

Tyler (08:46):
Yeah.

Danny (08:47):
Not for cancer, but because of some other sort of
sickness that your body cannotfight. Right. And like you said
before, that those when whenthose people are fighting cancer
and fighting some sort ofillness, it's not like your body
has this Yeah. Ability to to toreally fight Yeah. That hard.
So you do have to be able topull the reins back. But then

(09:07):
it's like like you said todayYeah. Still gotta push
sometimes. Yeah. Know, we gottasee what the what is the top.

Tyler (09:14):
Yeah. Well yeah. Yeah. And and I I think I'm coming
through this with, a heavy asshit, like, let's this is to
change some things moment inyour life. Yeah.
This is to change your things.Like, something big is going to
change. What is it going to be?

Danny (09:32):
What is it gonna be?

Tyler (09:33):
And so because I've I've really been like, if you follow
it at all, like the the APL,like my substack, I've been kind
of writing about the concept oflike manifesting. Right? And
like, I don't know if we'vetalked about this, but like
manifesting good. They alwaystalk about manifesting good. All

(09:53):
you got do is see it, visualizeit.
And I get it. That's great.That's awesome. They don't they
very rarely talk about, like,manifesting the dark. Right?
And I get it. It's shitty, it'sgenerally subconscious. Right?
Like, I don't I don'tparticularly love the term
manifest anyway. Like, assomebody who has to, like, get
my ass up and go to work and doshit.
I do kind of believe, like,like, where you put your your

(10:15):
mind, where you put your yeah.You know, where you put your
energy. Right? So in a sense,like, it's it's manifest
adjacent. Right?

Danny (10:22):
Yeah. For sure. I I believe I agree to you. Like, I
I do think, no, you just thinkYeah. If you suck today, don't,
like, tell people that.
I mean, like

Tyler (10:32):
Yeah. Yeah. People ask

Danny (10:33):
me all time, how are you? I'm like, a %. I'm amazing.
Yeah. I'm amazing.
And we've talked about thiswhere there's people are like,
you're not fucking amazing. It'slike, well, okay. Alright. Yeah.
Yes, I am.
Yes, I am. Yes. Am I goingthrough emotions? Yes. Am I am I
struggling?
Yes. A %. Yeah. You know, are mystruggles slightly different
than Tyler's right now? Yes, forsure.

Tyler (10:53):
Yeah.

Danny (10:53):
I mean, but do we, as men, have the same struggles?
Yes. Yeah. Because for one,you're always told, shut the
fuck up. Go to work.
Yeah. Yeah. Just keep keep keepplugging away. Keep grinding.

Tyler (11:06):
Yeah.

Danny (11:06):
Keep grinding. Just keep grinding. And it's like, okay.
But to win. Yeah.
To what availed? Corey and Iwere talking about this the
other day, you know, becauseyou've heard us talk about our
friend Corey Brian.

Tyler (11:17):
Yeah.

Danny (11:17):
He sold everything. Sold everything. Sold every he's got
a he's got a couple of stakes inhis in each business that he's
built to multimillion dollarstatus. Right? And he sold
everything.
He's rented out his house, andhe bought a boat. And he told me
his story. And he's like, youknow, I'm I'm getting ready to

(11:40):
go on to the ocean. And if hethought about every worst case
scenario.

Tyler (11:46):
Right.

Danny (11:46):
Like, could you imagine?

Tyler (11:47):
Yeah.

Danny (11:47):
Like, worst case scenario is his he said his family dies
and he lives. Yeah. Worst casescenario. Yeah, dude. Like, that
would suck.

Tyler (11:55):
Yeah.

Danny (11:55):
You know? But is that why he should stop? Not shouldn't he
shouldn't go and pursue hispassion? Yeah. No.
Fuck no. He should go do it.Yeah. He should. He should.
And and every person is gonnaevery man, especially, is gonna
be have a different take on whatyou're going through. Mhmm. But
each man can be somewhatsympathetic. It's just that

(12:18):
we're not taught to besympathetic.

Tyler (12:21):
Yeah.

Danny (12:21):
You know? It's not like I can be a pillow for you. It's
not like I

Tyler (12:23):
can

Danny (12:23):
can

Tyler (12:23):
be a bed.

Danny (12:25):
I know what you're going through because I have no I have
nothing. Yeah. Can't I can't Ican't even, even begin to fathom
what what exactly you're goingthrough.

Tyler (12:34):
Oh, man.

Danny (12:35):
Besides what you tell me.

Tyler (12:39):
Yeah. The driest skin I've ever had in my entire life.
The fact that, like, I I feellike one of those, you know,
those, like, field mice or likethe lab mice, they're kind of
weird and pink and red. Like,that's exactly what I feel like.
Like a lab rat that's liketurning pink.
My eyes are like, you know,always bloodshot and like, I'm
always weeping and crying.

Danny (12:59):
Yeah.

Tyler (13:00):
I'm like, oh, what?

Danny (13:01):
But you're you don't have the you know, like, sometimes
you see cancer patients orpeople, like, that are getting
chemo, their skin turns a littlegray

Tyler (13:08):
and their

Danny (13:09):
skin turns a little yellow. Yeah. Because, you know,
their their body chemistry isbeing completely destroyed.

Tyler (13:15):
Just destroyed.

Danny (13:15):
I can tell you that you don't have that. Yeah. Right.
Yeah. But I can I know whatyou're saying of like you have
like these little differentthings that you have going on?
Like what you were saying theother day when you were like, I
can feel when the arsenic goesin and you're like Yeah. Yeah.
Poison. Yeah. Yeah.
It's literally poison.

Tyler (13:33):
I'm I'm I'm feeling it in my gut right now really bad.
Really?

Danny (13:36):
Yeah. Are you able to eat?

Tyler (13:38):
I'm I've got a pretty decent appetite most of the
time. I don't like to think,like, chemo brain is real. Like,
you're just remembering stuff.Like, always, like, forgetting
stuff.

Danny (13:50):
Like a little foggy?

Tyler (13:51):
Yeah. Everything's, like, a little foggy. Really? Yeah. So
lots of filler words I try tolike, but I just kind of slow
myself down.
Be more present. Be morepresent. Loose on. Relax. Yeah.

Danny (14:03):
Think about like, oh, don't go there, Tyler. Don't go
there. And so now you go onemore week next week, and then
you have four weeks off. Fourweeks off. And that four weeks
off is the unknown as well,right, of what to do then.
Because what if you don't havethis appointment to go to every

(14:23):
day? Yeah. And are you what doyou do then?

Tyler (14:26):
Right. Yeah. I mean, I'm still working. I'm like the
working sick a little bit. Idon't want to like I don't want
to burn my my company has beenincredibly great to work with.

Danny (14:35):
Okay.

Tyler (14:36):
They're like working with me really well to work. But
like, as a system in The UnitedStates, see like, our health
care is pretty badass, but I cansee how it gets out of hand real
quick as I'm putting these billstogether and the insurance
company owns the hospital that,you know, that I'm at. And know

(14:57):
what I mean? Like yeah. I'vebeen blessed to get some some
grants and things like that.
And I'm like, wow, this is justI'm in I'm in some sort of,
like, chemo study, like, wherethey're they're studying some of
these things. So like, I seethey've like, they've set up
they've set this up. So, like,I'm seeing several doctors that

(15:18):
are asking me the same questions

Danny (15:19):
Yeah.

Tyler (15:20):
Because they're, like, checking things and it's pretty
it's it feels very much machinelike. Really? And you're
absolutely right. Like, I comehome and I'm, I feel alright,
but I don't feel alright. Sure.
Whether I'm emotionallyexhausted, mentally exhausted,
you know, physically exhausted,my motivation to, like, I really

(15:40):
want to be back in the gym. Ireally wanna be back either in
the academy or working out.Whatever the whatever my weekend
ANC can handle, like, that'swhat I want to be doing, you
know, hiking. We've had we'vebeen teased with such good
weather.

Danny (15:54):
Then this week was horrible. Yeah. With snow this
Snowed. Yeah. I was so pissed onMonday.
Yeah. I was driving into work, Iwas like, what the fuck?

Tyler (16:02):
Yeah.

Danny (16:02):
It's snowing.

Tyler (16:03):
It's snowing.

Danny (16:04):
It's snowing. And not only is it snowing, everybody
forgot how to drive. Oh, yeah.And all the Californians and all
the Texans, those jerks Yeah. Goup in Utah because they thought
the snow was gone.
And Yeah. Here they are tryingto drive in the snow and I was
so mad. Yeah. Yeah. So mad.
And the so you your doctor atSalt Lake, do you see her?

Tyler (16:24):
Yep. On Mondays, I go to Salt Lake. Oh. So I'll spend
I'll spend a good chunk of extratime. It's probably an hour
longer to have my appointment onMondays.
That's when I see all theoncologists, the nurses, the
they do an EKG, which I think isall part of this, like,

Danny (16:41):
Yeah. Just checking out. Just keeping track of your vital
signs. Yeah. And then what aboutthe doctor in Park City?
Is are they do you feel likethey are as prepared and as
awesome as Salt Lake as LDS?

Tyler (16:54):
It's a very impressive hospital. Like, I'd want to work
there. Yeah. It's a veryimpressive hospital. Like, the
food is incredible.
Like, I don't know why theyaren't, like, marketing, like,
chemo to, like, celebrities.Like, I'm in, like, a stately
room

Danny (17:10):
Really?

Tyler (17:11):
That's, like, nice. It's it was nicer than my room my
patient room

Danny (17:14):
In LDS.

Tyler (17:15):
In LDS. And granted, LDS is, a 15 years old.

Danny (17:18):
Yeah. And

Tyler (17:19):
Park City is, like, you know

Danny (17:20):
Brand new.

Tyler (17:21):
Brand new.

Danny (17:21):
But They got an education hall. They got all kinds of shit
over there. Yeah. That's it.That is an impressive

Tyler (17:26):
They're trying to build so it's really just me and one
nurse. They've pulled a nurse, achemo rated nurse, and they're
trying to actually build theinfusion services at Park I'm
guessing because they bill more,but I've just kind of put my
head in the sand and decided I'mnot gonna look at that shit.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm just gonna getbetter, and when I get better,
I'll have a heart attack.

Danny (17:47):
Yeah. Don't say that, Tyler.

Tyler (17:49):
Just kidding.

Danny (17:51):
And but but when you go down to the to see your doctor
down there Yeah. She's she'sshe's happy with what you're
Yeah. With your progress. She'shappy with Yeah. How things are
going.
And they can't can and I guess,like, each person is different,
so you don't know. She can'ttell you exactly what to expect
or what to do or how to do it.It's probably like, yeah, relax

(18:15):
a little bit. Yeah. And and letand you'll learn.
You'll learn. Because you gofour weeks off and then four
weeks on and that's it? Or yougot how many rounds of how many
rounds of this four weeks on,four weeks off?

Tyler (18:27):
So it's a total of four infusion rounds. So we've we
were nearly finished with thethe first. Okay. The second, you
know, will be mid July.

Danny (18:42):
Okay.

Tyler (18:43):
June, July ish. And then, yeah, I guess I'll be done
around Christmas time, Isuppose.

Danny (18:50):
And that's it. And then that'll be it. That'll be it.
Then you're done. I'm done.
Then then you're able to and atthat point, they consider you
checked off. You no longer havecancer. You you you are 100%
clean bill of health. Good go.Yeah.
Live your life however you want.

Tyler (19:05):
I have to have a spinal tap on the third round because
they want that's when I'll checkto make sure that, you know,
it's it's not higher up in thethe blood system.

Danny (19:14):
Oh my gosh.

Tyler (19:15):
I'm not excited about

Danny (19:16):
that. No. Those hurt,

Tyler (19:18):
I don't know. I've heard they're not fun, but I'm I'm
hoping that I won't be like, Idon't want to be Drug

Danny (19:24):
the fuck out of me.

Tyler (19:24):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (19:25):
Have your will. Yeah. Piddity b piddity me up. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Give me a freak off.

Tyler (19:31):
Yeah. I wanna I do not wanna be No. It's weird how,
like, I didn't have problemswith, like, blood. And, like,
I'd go watch them do my, youknow, blood because I'd give
blood. Now I'm like, I get soanxious around it.

Danny (19:47):
I bet.

Tyler (19:48):
Every Monday when they they do they access my port,
it's just like I starthyperventilating and I'm like,
man. You

Danny (19:55):
know, when I was a kid, it's funny you say that because
when I was a kid, you know, whenyou get shots, I remember
getting shots, but then I had Ihad, like and that probably was,
like, allergy induced asthmawhen I was a kid. Like, they
diagnosed me with asthma, but Inever had, like, any symptoms
except for if I was sick,allergies, or, like, I'd get

(20:16):
anxious. Then I would, like, getthis, like, panic attack, and I
started having asthma and Iwheezing. And I would have these
really, really intense feverswith intense nightmares. And I
remember some of thesenightmares sometimes, like, I'll
move a certain way and my tonguewill start to feel like swollen
and I'll I'll have a vision ofone of the nightmares that I had

(20:39):
when I was a kid, and it'llfreak the fuck out.
It'll freak me out. Right. Likea flashback to the dream. Yeah.
And it's like it's like weird.
But one of the things is like,like, my tongue will feel a
little numb and it's like reallyweird. But I started to have to
get a lot of shots. Like youwere saying, I got a lot of
shots. And I'm terrified ofshots now. Like, terrified of

(21:00):
them.
But when I remember, like, whenI was a kid, I wasn't scared of
them, but then all a sudden, Iwas getting them all the time.
And like you're saying, wasgetting I'd get anxious and I'd
get, like, these, like, panicattacks and I'd have these,
like, I don't wanna get theseshots anymore because I'd get
them a lot. Yeah. And now whenthey draw blood, I'm, like, go
in there and I'm like, oh, man,I don't like this at all. And
I'm sitting there and I'm like,oh, I don't want to get this

(21:22):
done.
I don't want to get this done.And I'm having anxiety and
anxiety.

Tyler (21:24):
It's like,

Danny (21:25):
how did this even develop? But like you said, it's
just like all of a sudden youit's anxiety. It's anxiousness.
Right? And so I just kind ofwant to get this over with.
Yeah. And it's weird how yourbody starts to, as you say,
manifest. But as you start to,like, develop these, like, weird

Tyler (21:42):
Yeah.

Danny (21:42):
Weird things. I think, like, that's like how ticks are
developed. As you start to,like, it's a it's a it's a your
body starts to, like, getanxious and all of a sudden
you're having these tics, youknow?

Tyler (21:55):
Yeah.

Danny (21:55):
Which, by the way, I don't know if you ever like it.
I've been you know, when I'm onsocial media, that Bailey girl,
that that girl that has the thetic. Is that

Tyler (22:04):
what it's called?

Danny (22:04):
The Tourette's? Tourette's? She is so damn
funny.

Tyler (22:08):
Yeah. Am Oh

Danny (22:08):
my god. Goddamn. Yeah.

Tyler (22:10):
There's a couple of them that that have really built
impressive social mediaplatforms around there.

Danny (22:15):
She is so

Tyler (22:16):
damn A lot of young guy in New Zealand that has a good
one, and he's always like, let'scook. You know? And he'll shit
everywhere

Danny (22:24):
and Yeah.

Tyler (22:25):
His it's like it's really kind of endearing to see him,
like, work through and theeffort he puts into his videos
because I'm sure it's

Danny (22:31):
Well, and it's like, do you like what we talk about?
It's like the body's like,eventually, you just start to,
like, accept what your body'sgoing through and it it the
human body starts to just, like,accept. Yeah. It starts to, like
it starts to function. It startsto do these things.
And your body is your body isstarting to learn to function

(22:54):
the way it is. And and you'reyou're learning how to navigate
these waters that you've nevernavigated.

Tyler (23:01):
Yeah.

Danny (23:01):
Right? And in the reality of it is, it's like you've never
been able to settle. You you thelast two years, it's not like
you've been able to settle andbe like, I have this figured
out. Yeah. I'm fucking good.

Tyler (23:14):
Yeah. People that talk about yeah. People that talk
about having their shittogether, I'm like,

Danny (23:20):
what the what do you fucking mean

Tyler (23:21):
to have your shit together? Like, I kinda know
where it all is.

Danny (23:25):
Yeah.

Tyler (23:25):
It's in this general vicinity.

Danny (23:28):
Yeah. Yeah. And then it's like, how in the world? What
what what is I mean, like, let'ssay December comes around and
you're like, what the fuck is mylife gonna look like in
December? What is my life gonnalook like in December?
Truthfully? Yeah.

Tyler (23:43):
Bro, I

Danny (23:43):
might be retired. I have so much anxiety about that.
Like, you know, people ask meall the time, like, today I had
a meeting today and they'relike, you have six months left.
What do you want the last sixmonths of your career Yeah. To
look like at this job?
And I was like, I don't know.Because I don't know if it's
gonna happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Pearson offered me a job at therink. Yeah. As soon as I'm done,

(24:04):
he's like, I'll put you to work.Yeah. Oh, you'll have a job.
Yeah. You know, it's not it'snot gonna be making much, but
whatever. Dude, you you have thehouse. It's awesome. And and
hang out with my friends, hangout with people.
And it's in Park City. I don'thave to drive. I can I can sell
my car, drive my bus everywhere?Yeah. You know?
And the reality of it is it canhappen. They dangle these low

(24:26):
hanging fruits fruits of, abonus, a 20% bonus on top of my
basic pay, which is a prettygood amount of money. But then I
think, can I make that amount ofmoney doing what I wanna do on
this side of the mountain andnot have to drive up and down
parleys every day? Yeah. Andthen I start to get anxiety.
Yeah. And I get a little anxiousand I'm like, man, holy shit.

(24:48):
One of my best friends at fromwork, I worked with him. I
trained him. We've workedtogether eighteen years.
He today was his last day in thefacility. He he's moving to
Seattle. And it was, like,surreal because all these guys,
you know, that I work with andI'm thinking, gosh, could I not
see them every day? Yeah.Because I've got some really

(25:09):
good friends at

Tyler (25:10):
work.

Danny (25:10):
Some really good friends I

Tyler (25:12):
I bet.

Danny (25:12):
Yeah. And then I think, can I not see them every day?
Yeah. Could I make it so that Idon't see them every, maybe for
all intents and purposes, neveragain? Yeah.
Because, you know, I mean,they're work friends. Yeah.
Yeah. With them outside of work.Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?

Tyler (25:26):
Work work friend. Yeah.

Danny (25:27):
And that is mind boggling to me that that that that
decision is gonna have to comepretty soon, you know, if if
we're gonna be able to make itwork or is it one of those
things where I take a year offand see if it's working? And
then if it's not, go back towork, you know? And it's it's

(25:48):
it's again, it's one of thosethings where I'm you know, it's
not like I have this playbook ofwhat to do and how to do it. You
know, I trust I trust that I'llmake the right decision Yeah.
For my family.
It's just Misty and I, you know?Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know.
It's a it's a

Tyler (26:04):
Did you get run for school board?

Danny (26:06):
I know.

Tyler (26:06):
Did they did you see they were, like, been publishing his
their salary?

Danny (26:09):
I know.

Tyler (26:10):
It's kush.

Danny (26:11):
Goddamn. And then yeah.

Tyler (26:13):
You're I mean, you're basically the CEO of the the
school. But, man, that they I II was shocked at how much money.
No one in Park City?

Danny (26:24):
I

Tyler (26:24):
know. Like, close to a million million bucks.

Danny (26:26):
I know. I know. And they were like, I'd be so mad if they
published my you know, you'rethat guy with that badass
paycheck, and you're like, whyare you putting that in the
news? You son's a bitch.

Tyler (26:37):
Yeah. I'm screwed. Yeah. A house and a car?

Danny (26:40):
Yeah, dude. Well, you know, if you work for Park City
School District, they give yousubsidized housing.

Tyler (26:47):
Yeah.

Danny (26:47):
You know?

Tyler (26:48):
If you work for the city the same way.

Danny (26:49):
Really?

Tyler (26:49):
Yeah. Yeah. If you work for the city full time, you you
can get you can get a list.Housing. But they'll they they
like, they'll have they'llmaintain a list of them, and
they'll give it to because Iknow a lot about this.
Maybe it's maybe it doesn'tmatter. But, yeah, they'll you
they'll give it to part timeemployees as well too.

Danny (27:03):
Oh, they will?

Tyler (27:03):
From time to time, if it's been on the list for a
certain amount of time, I think.

Danny (27:06):
Oh, really? They will. Are you considered to work for
the city for Mhmm. For the icerink?

Tyler (27:11):
Yeah.

Danny (27:11):
Yeah. So do you get city privileges? Or do you get, like
because for city workers, youget certain gym memberships.
Right?

Tyler (27:19):
You get, like, yeah, all

Danny (27:21):
of mark or something?

Tyler (27:22):
All of the all of the, yeah, all of the Park City.

Danny (27:26):
Recreational type shit.

Tyler (27:27):
Recreational stuff. I don't

Danny (27:29):
No. I think the mark is

Tyler (27:30):
Yeah.

Danny (27:30):
Is part of that. Yeah. Right?

Tyler (27:32):
It is. Yeah. I've never been.

Danny (27:34):
Oh, really? I've never been. The mark is cool shit.

Tyler (27:36):
Is it? Yeah.

Danny (27:36):
It's cool. It's really cool. Deacon, our friend Deacon,
he he worked out there. Heworked out there and he did a
couple of things, a couple ofprivates with me. Oh, yeah.
When we were trying to fix myback. So maybe this weekend,
Saturday, maybe, Corey's goingaway party. You'll be heading
down to Lehi Yeah. With us.Yeah.

(27:57):
Do you think you'll put your gion?

Tyler (27:59):
I want to.

Danny (28:00):
Yeah.

Tyler (28:00):
I want to. If I if nothing else, it's just one roll
with Corey.

Danny (28:03):
Hang out.

Tyler (28:03):
Yeah. Hang out.

Danny (28:05):
Do you have your wait. When are they taking this thing
off?

Tyler (28:08):
They take well, they can take it out at any I could take
it out right now if I wanted to.

Danny (28:10):
Wait. What?

Tyler (28:11):
Yeah. It's like an it's like a needle that they access.
It's like it's like imagine,like, a button. It's got a long
needle on it, and they push itin the port every Monday and
they call it accessed. And thenwhen they're done, they just
pull it out and it's like

Danny (28:26):
Will they take it out Friday?

Tyler (28:28):
Yeah. Oh. I I can have them take it out today. You know
what I mean? They can it's justlike yeah, they just they just
put this application in and out.
In and out. I just figured Idon't want to get poked less, so
just leave it in all week. Itdoesn't bother me.

Danny (28:41):
Yeah. I

Tyler (28:42):
mean, it does bother me.

Danny (28:43):
Sure. It all bothers me.

Tyler (28:44):
It all bothers me, but

Danny (28:47):
Some days more than others.

Tyler (28:48):
Yeah. Yeah. Today, I was like, man, it like, totally kept
me from doing something. So Iwas like, man, I wanna go I was
gonna go sit in the sauna. And Iwas like, I can't sit in the
sauna.
I got this fucking weird plasticnipple. Oh my gosh. That's a
good way to look at it.

Danny (29:04):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully, you'll be able to to
to I mean, I think put on a giand see what happens. And, you
know, it'll it'll at least it'llat least quiet those gremlins in
your mind Yeah.
Of fuck this.

Tyler (29:19):
Yeah. Yeah. I need it. I need something. I need
community.
I've been yeah. Yeah. I needother men. I need I need I need
this. Yeah.
You know, it's been, yeah, it'sbeen a strange couple of of
weeks. Man, I mean, you you'vebeen gone. You've been in Vegas.
You've been I know. In Vegas.
There's lots of changes for you.

Danny (29:40):
Lots of stuff is going on. We you know, in Vegas was so
was such a good experience andsuch a bad experience. Yeah. It
was so good and so bad at thesame time. Yeah.
You know, you go out there so weso we usually go to the South
Point

Tyler (29:58):
Mhmm.

Danny (29:59):
And everything's done there. You don't even have to
leave the the spot. You'rethere. You're the wrestling is
there. Everything is there.
Everything is literally there.Mhmm. And it got changed, and I
didn't know why it got changed.I just thought maybe they got
the the venue, found a cheaperspot to do it. But what I
understood was is that teams haddone some significant damage to

(30:23):
the South Point.
There's so many rumors goingaround, but at some point I
heard upwards of $300,000 worthof damage, which means some
there's some shit that happenedYeah. That they did not like.
Right? So when I found that out,we decided to stay because the
the venue for the event was inNorth Salt Lake, which is not

(30:46):
really like the place where youwanna have a bunch of kids being
able to walk around. After it'sall said and done, I wish we
would have stayed closer to thevenue because it was kind of a
pain in the ass.
Yeah. So what we decided was tostay at the Flamingo because
Caesars usually gives militarymembers a really good veteran a
rewards package. So theyautomatically make you a

(31:06):
platinum reward member forCaesars if you're a veteran. So
they got so, like, a couple ofyears ago, we got really cheap
rooms, no resort fees, noparking fees, and it was really
quite easy to get to a lot ofplaces on on the strip because
the flamingo's in a good spot.Yeah.
And their pool is insane. It'sfucking awesome. Flamingo. It's

(31:29):
really cool pool. And adultsonly side was

Tyler (31:32):
Oh, yeah.

Danny (31:32):
The best. It was one those really cool pools, and
that's what Misty cares about.Right?

Tyler (31:36):
Yeah.

Danny (31:36):
I don't really care. I mean, like, I'll be at the pool
for maybe a couple hours, butwhatever. That's what she wants.
Right? Yeah.
So we get there. And not onlydoes my rewards card not work,
but they are not they're notgoing to cover the it doesn't
cover shit. So we ended uphaving to pay the resort fee,

(31:57):
had to pay the parking fee, goto MSC's in line. And she's
like, did you know the pool'sclosed? And I was like, no.

Tyler (32:06):
Oh, shit.

Danny (32:07):
We walk out there and share shit. The pool's closed.
Yeah. So what do they have? Alittle tiny kiddie pool, a
little tiny pool, and they havechairs stacked on top of chairs
on top of each other.
And it was like, oh, my god, mywife is going to kill me because
that's yeah. I'm not going to bearound her. And this is what
she's supposed to do. She'ssupposed to sit at this pool all

(32:29):
day. That's what her plan is.
Right?

Tyler (32:31):
Mhmm.

Danny (32:32):
Yeah. It was it was it was the wrestling was great. We
had such a good time. Me andTristan and my buddy and the
kids, we only had we only endedup having one girl go because
everybody else bailed at thelast second. But, team, Utah did
great.
Everybody was everybody had agood time there. One beer. What

(32:52):
would you think? How much? Howmuch do think one beer costs in
Vegas?

Tyler (32:57):
Oh, jeez. Oh, I mean, I think I heard Vegas is
struggling, what, like $14? 14dollars. 14 dollars? I was just
thinking, like, stadium.

Danny (33:04):
Bucket of beer? $96 for a six pack of beer. $96.

Tyler (33:09):
That's insane.

Danny (33:10):
So we went to a pool. We went to an adults only pool
because Tristan turned 21, youknow, and

Tyler (33:13):
Yeah.

Danny (33:14):
So we wanted to go and hang out at the pool when we
first got there, and we ended upgoing to a pool. It was really
it was cool. Like, Misty waspissed at first, and then we
kinda mellowed out. And it waslike, I can't do this every day.
Like, I can't spend this muchmoney every day.
I mean, I make really goodmoney, but as soon as I see it's
like that money going out, it'slike, oh my gosh, I could do so

(33:34):
much fun stuff than this shit.Right? Yeah. And every dinner is
like $200 for dinner. And that'sjust Misty and I eating, you
know, and having one beer, onedrink, you know.
And so you're eating one meal aday if you're lucky because
you're like, I don't want tospend this much

Tyler (33:53):
money. Yeah.

Danny (33:56):
We we had purposely booked our plane ticket home to
be able to sit by the pool, butthere's no pool. So now we get
up on the last day and we'relike, fuck. We should should
have just got an early flightand hauled ass home. Yeah. And,
yeah, it was it was I I don'tthink we'll be doing that trip

(34:18):
again, honestly.

Tyler (34:19):
I have little, very little desire to go to Vegas. I
hear it's, like, suffering rightnow, but

Danny (34:24):
I have some cousins and friends that go all the time,
and they love it.

Tyler (34:28):
I mean, the shows are cool. I I I think that's the
thing. I don't really gamble.

Danny (34:32):
Me either.

Tyler (34:34):
You know what I mean? So I don't I don't really I've
never really done a strip club.

Danny (34:39):
I heard Mandalay Bay is the pool. We should have stayed
at the Mandalay Bay because thethat pool is really cool.

Tyler (34:45):
It's just a small little I think the man I if I remember,
the Mandalay Bay is pretty good.That's where we usually stay.

Danny (34:53):
Yeah. The Mandalay Bay was from what I gather, it's,
like, a really cool pool.

Tyler (34:58):
It's a lazy river.

Danny (34:59):
It's got I think. Oh, maybe a wave pool?

Tyler (35:02):
Maybe a wave pool.

Danny (35:03):
Yeah. Somebody was telling me that, yeah, next time
you go there, you stay at theMandalay Bay, and they give they
still get veteran discounts andstuff. I have, this thing called
betticks, which means I get freetickets to a lot of shows out in
Vegas. So we could have donethat. But for you know, I was
there for wrestling.
So, we were there almost fromnine till nine every day

(35:25):
watching wrestling, which wasreally cool. The wrestling was
really good. You're it's an offOlympic cycle like I talk about.
And so when off Olympic cyclelot of cycles happen, all of
them big names are therewrestling, and that was kind of
fun. Me and Tripp to coach inthat environment was was really
quite cool.

Tyler (35:41):
That's cool.

Danny (35:42):
Something you

Tyler (35:42):
put on your resume for sure.

Danny (35:43):
Yeah. And, you know, I don't know how much commitment
and time I have to Park CityWrestling. They they there's
some really cool stuff going onand we're trying to, you know,
we're trying to get the kids tohave fun and trying to get the
athletic director to buy intowhat we're doing. We had a world
team member actually train withus pretty much the whole year.

(36:06):
Shout out Brian Cole.
He's on the he's on the worldteam for beach wrestling, which
is a pretty brand new style ofwrestling. Yeah. And he's in
Mexico right now wrestling forteam USA. And, he trained with
my kids and taught them a bunchof cool stuff.

Tyler (36:23):
He that's cool.

Danny (36:24):
He he was part of the team and I was telling athletic
director like, I mean, that'swhat you have brought to the
table, right? It's like thiscoaching staff that cares. Plus,
you're getting world teammembers coming into your room,
into your facility, which meansspotlight on Park City. Right?
If he wears a Park City,anything, that's a spotlight to
Park City, you know?
Yeah. And you want that. Yeah.So that was that's been a lot of

(36:48):
our stuff going on. We have hada lot for the summer camp stuff
coming up.
I found out yesterday that Trentwill be doing the sup

Tyler (37:05):
Yes. Sup

Danny (37:06):
fest. Fest again on July 5. I'm hoping July 4, I'll be in
the Park City parade with thebus Oh, cool. Driving up and
down Main Street with the buswhenever they or whenever they
do their their parade.

Tyler (37:20):
Oh, that's cool.

Danny (37:21):
And then on the SUP festival, I'm gonna park the bus
down on the beach again, hangout there on the beach with with
Park City. SUP. I always say itwrong.

Tyler (37:33):
Sup, dude?

Danny (37:33):
Yeah. Like, it's stand up. Yeah. But you know what? How
you say it is is soup.
I say soup. And every time heevery time he corrects me and
giggles and is like, yeah,you're saying it completely
wrong. Soup? Yeah. I say it'snot soup.
It's sup.

Tyler (37:47):
And sup. And so

Danny (37:48):
I'm gonna do the race. I'm gonna do the races there Oh,
nice. For them. Yeah. Gosh.
What else? Been going to theBNI, the business network in
internationals on Thursdays.Yeah. It's fun. Seeing some
familiar faces today, which wasawesome.
Yeah. Walked in and familiarfaces came in. And that's always

(38:10):
fun to see, you know, peoplethat you know and Yeah.

Tyler (38:13):
There's two chapters here. Right?

Danny (38:14):
So there's there's only one chapter. It's the Northern
Utah chapter, but then it's ParkCity, which encompasses

Tyler (38:21):
The surrounding area.

Danny (38:22):
Most of Heber as well. Like, a lot of the people there
are from Heber. I think theysaid they had, like, 68 members
or 70 something members orsomething.

Tyler (38:30):
Because if I remember right, they only take one
profession of, like, every

Danny (38:34):
There is multiple professions, but then you could
be considered like like a guywill stand up and he'll say, I'm
the carpet cleaning business ofthe group, and he's the only
carpet cleaning. They're notgonna accept a bunch of more of
his competition into the Yeah.Into the fold. There's a really

(38:55):
cool it it's a really coolenvironment. It's it's a lot of
networking.
It's a lot of, like, things thatI think that, like, are good for
me as a entrepreneur to learnMhmm. How to market, how to
network, how to have one onones, how to get referrals, how
to do Google reviews, how to dothis shit. Right? Mhmm. So it's

(39:16):
really cool because I'm sittingin there learning this because
Crystal Joy gives me theopportunity to go for as a
substitute for her.
And so it's it's been aninteresting week. It's been an
interesting couple of months oflearning and growing and trying
to figure out, like I said,what's the next what's the next
thing? And Yeah. And then notnot podcasting because for me,

(39:42):
like, if I Misty was really,really sick and I was like Yeah.
Well, what if tomorrow I mean,like, feel great right now, but
what if I come over herepodcast?
And then the next day, I'm like,dude, I am deathly ill and
you're like Yeah. Well, thankyou. Yeah. You know? Yeah.
And so that that's that's initself. I seen remember I seen
you the other day. Yeah. Youwere with Ben. Yeah.

(40:04):
Oh, yeah. Yeah. And had a maskon. Yeah. Was Ben sick?
Yeah. And so you I was inpneumonia. Was in pneumonia. No
way.

Tyler (40:11):
Yeah. He had a pneumonia and And

Danny (40:13):
he was here. Yeah. Yeah. Holy shit.

Tyler (40:16):
I mean, we didn't he he pretty much stayed to his room
and, you know, I haven't Ihaven't I haven't shown any
signs, but, yeah, he hadpneumonia.

Danny (40:26):
What the heck?

Tyler (40:28):
Lower in his lower right lung.

Danny (40:30):
Is he okay now?

Tyler (40:31):
I think he's getting better. They gave him some stir
like, guess, they not steroids,antibiotics.

Danny (40:35):
Misty was sick. Like, She was super sick.

Tyler (40:39):
It's the spike in the weather. Think it does to
everybody. Yeah. I think it doesexcuse me, everybody. Yeah.

Danny (40:46):
We we you know, I've been I've been doing my breathing for
so long. Yeah. That if I startto get a little, like, tickle in
my throat, I hurry up and gobreathe. Yeah. And I go do my
breathing, my breathing routine.
And I'm always like, is it is ita placebo thing? You know?

(41:09):
Because then I'm like, I feelfine, you know? But I I don't
know if it I I always if I startto feel a little tickle, I just
hurry up and go do my breathingroutine and do a bunch of, like,
nasal breathing Oh, yeah. Toclean out my system.
Oh, yeah. But I don't know ifthat's the case, you know.

Tyler (41:26):
I mean, I don't know anymore, man. There's so much
stuff. Plus, I'm in and out ofthe hospital, like

Danny (41:31):
I know.

Tyler (41:32):
Everybody's sick.

Danny (41:33):
Yeah. Because you

Tyler (41:34):
yeah. Everybody's sick.

Danny (41:36):
Have you nothing else is new as far as, like, do you see
do you see this as thisimpactful change in your life?
Do you see yourself being like,I'm gonna make some drastic
changes? Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonnamake some drastic changes.

(41:56):
Yeah. Do you know what thosechanges might look like? I mean,

Tyler (42:01):
I I don't. I don't know what they're gonna look like.
It's probably gonna be meseriously downsizing just just
for six months to six to eightmonths. I think over the summer
with the kids, it's the besttime to do it. I don't know.

(42:24):
I think my lease ends inDecember of this year. So I
could see me me drasticallydownsizing.

Danny (42:34):
After the lease is up here.

Tyler (42:35):
After the lease is up here.

Danny (42:37):
How how so this is insane that they're doing above your
house. Yeah. I drove you know,when you come into Heber, that
whole mountainside is Yeah.Competitive department.

Tyler (42:51):
5,000 more homes that are going to The

Danny (42:54):
inventory so, like, inventory, I was one of the guys
was talking today, and he'slike, the inventory is insane in
Heber. The inventory is insanebecause, like, there's not a lot
of inventory per se, but thereis a lot of inventory. And
there's this there's this likepause because everybody's
waiting for all these things tobe built up here. And then

(43:17):
what's the next biggest thingthat's going to happen to Heber,
which is them making theNorthfields its own little town.
It's going to be its own town,not the Northfields with the you
know, they they put that thingout there that said, get on
board or else you don't get achoice in this anymore.
You're going to be theRiverview, I think is the name

(43:37):
of town.

Tyler (43:38):
Oh, wow.

Danny (43:39):
Yeah. Which is just across the street from you.

Tyler (43:41):
Yeah. So, like, all of that those fields, they're
they're turning into a town,

Danny (43:45):
They're turn into so what does that mean? I don't know.

Tyler (43:48):
It means there it means that 40 is gonna be be a highway
And all that all that money Ithink all that money invested in
on 40 is is waste. It's a waste.Right? If they're if they're
gonna push everything to anothertown center, this is this I
mean, I don't know.

Danny (44:05):
And and, you know, like, you know that the town is like,
there's a lot of, like sothere's a natural hot Mhmm. Flow
Mhmm. Of of you know, there'snatural hot water Yeah. Because

(44:26):
of the Zermatt and the what isthat? What is that?
Crater out there?

Tyler (44:29):
The thermal springs that are out there. Yeah.

Danny (44:31):
That is unsettled. So that what that means is there's
a lot of unsettled ground. Oh,yeah. You know? Like, a lot of,
like, air pockets, a lot of,like, pockets of stuff.
And there's Yeah. There's rightby where they built that Smith,
do you remember they have to putin all that dirt because
there's, like, a hot I don'teven know what it would be

(44:51):
because there's some sort ofthermal thing there.

Tyler (44:53):
There is, like, really, the water table is really high
here. Yeah. So we are at thewe're we are still at the bottom
of an an active lake. You knowwhat I mean? Yeah.
It doesn't make a lot of sense.Not to mention if the dam ever
went, like, it was just wash

Danny (45:08):
Yeah. Wash everything away.

Tyler (45:09):
Wash out. I'm a little bit up the hill, but I think I'd
be I think I'd have beach sideproperty.

Danny (45:14):
Yeah. What they're gonna do to this town is I don't know
what they're gonna do to

Tyler (45:18):
this town.

Danny (45:18):
It's gonna be it's gonna be interesting to see what
happens. And I think, like, inthe next six months, our both of
our our lives are gonna be,like, you know, a big change for
you, especially with with yourwith your health and the way you
approach things. And if Iretire, what's that going to
look like for me? And what doesthat look like? You know, what

(45:41):
does that look like?
What does that what does Dannyand Tyler look like in the next
six months and how do we get tothis this as long as we we stay
in this realm that we've beenliving in, you know? Yeah.
Helping men and helping, youknow, living within our purpose,
which is which is the goal.Right? If you're if you're
living within your purpose, ifyou're if you're doing the

(46:03):
things that you're doing, thework that's that you're put here
to do, you'll feel great aboutyourself.

Tyler (46:08):
Yeah.

Danny (46:09):
Right? And it's those times when, like, if that's all
you have, that's all you have.Cool. Yeah. You know?
Yeah. Stoked. Yeah. And and ifand if things change, if the
tides flow, then flow and ebbwith the tides. Just ride them
tides.
Ride them tides. Yeah.

Tyler (46:29):
Cool.

Danny (46:30):
Yeah.

Tyler (46:30):
What else do you have going on? I mean, we've gabbed
here for for a minute. Let's letme wrap this one up, and we'll
try to get back on the schedule.What else is going on? You got
summer camp coming up?

Danny (46:39):
Camp coming up. Summer camp starting to really hit
sponsorship and fightsponsorship and how we're gonna
run that. We have the next thatthat will be the next biggest
thing. Right. The next biggestthing will be to to really get
that going and to really makesure that that's a good turnout.

(47:02):
There's the instructionals aregoing to be insane. Mike and I
were talking about it last nightand the instructors there coming
this year are holy shit.

Tyler (47:09):
It looks stacked.

Danny (47:10):
Top notch guys. And, you know, the the Pedro Sour
Association doesn't get theglamour of everything else, you
know, because a lot of timesit's the humble it's the
humbleness of Pedro. You know,he's not like this guy that goes
out there and, like, forces youto do to to know who he is. He

(47:32):
just he he understands it's justjujitsu. You know, I was I made
a post today about the factthat, like, you have all these
people that are promoting allthese, like, crazy influences
and then people buy into it.
Yeah. But they promote jujitsu,and it's like, why isn't the
jujitsu mats hacked? And I thinkit's because jujitsu is hard.

(47:53):
Yeah. And you can't fake it.
You know, I can go I can take avideo of me sitting in a in a
cold plunge and, you know, it'scool, but it's maybe a minute or
two.

Tyler (48:04):
Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (48:04):
Bro, I spend you you we spend two, two and a half hours
at the Jiu Jitsu Academy Yeah.When we're there for training.
Two two and a half hours. Yeah.And it's mentally taxing.
It's physically taxing. It'shard.

Tyler (48:15):
And it's not cheap.

Danny (48:16):
It's not cheap.

Tyler (48:17):
Dude, I saw this so I've noticed a couple of things
recently, but there's been apush by a a competitor here in
town.

Danny (48:24):
Bro, did you see how much he what it cost to go to them?

Tyler (48:27):
$2.00 4?

Danny (48:28):
I know. And that's not all the classes. That doesn't
give you the full facility.

Tyler (48:32):
That's crazy.

Danny (48:33):
That just gives you a couple classes a a week. You
know? And so, yeah, it's notcheap it's not cheap, but it's
not but it's a lifestyle.

Tyler (48:40):
Sure.

Danny (48:40):
You know? And so me, myself, I'm gonna really,
really, really push for peopleto, like, to come into the
academy to try it out, to comesee what it's about. And and the
academy has two new classes,which is Tuesday and Friday, and
they're fundamental classes. Soit's the time when you're like,

(49:01):
I don't man, like, there's somany times when you're like, I
don't know to do here. I don'teven know how to start this
position.
And we talk about that. Wediscuss that. We work on just
meaning maintaining positionsand and simplicity of of the of
the schedule or I'm sorry, ofthe instruction, you know? And
so that's been fun. I've beenteaching on Fridays.
That's been really fun. Cool.And then six day mean, I haven't

(49:27):
worked in six day work weekslike crazy. But we're gonna go
to Mexico again in August.

Tyler (49:35):
That's pretty awesome.

Danny (49:36):
We're going for eight days. Yeah. We're gonna go and
hang out there. That's gonna befun. What else?
Oh, Braxton got married. Yeah.

Tyler (49:46):
Braxton got married.

Danny (49:47):
Braxton got married.

Tyler (49:48):
Dang.

Danny (49:48):
Yeah. My oldest son got married. That yeah. I forgot
about that. My my oldest son gotmarried.

Tyler (49:53):
Did you know this was coming?

Danny (49:55):
You know, yes. Yes. I did. There's a lot of there's a
lot of reasons why gettingmarried benefits them too, you
know. The military takes care ofmarried people a lot better.

Tyler (50:11):
They

Danny (50:12):
were living far apart from each other, they needed to
get to they needed to gettogether. But Fayetteville is a
terrifying town. Lots of crime,lots of lots of bad shit that
happens there. So they didn'twanna live off the post, but,
you know, you get married andthe military takes care of you.
Mhmm.
Gives you insurance. It givesyou all these great benefits for
Sheena and Braxton and Braden.And so, you know, when we talked

(50:35):
about it, it was like, this is agood it's a good thing. You
know? Yeah.
Yeah. Braxton has this, youknow, he wants to be a provider.
He wants to be a takercaretaker, and he wants to take
care of of a woman and he wantsto take he he has that.

Tyler (50:48):
Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (50:48):
Yeah. That want. And so, yeah, we it was a good it was a
good thing for him.

Tyler (50:54):
That's cool.

Danny (50:54):
So they just got into a house on post. It's a really
nice house. And, yeah, that thatwas crazy. It was like a
whirlwind couple of Yeah. Coupleof days of like, what the hell?
Yeah. So it's a you know, wehave an instantly you have a
daughter-in-law. We have agrandson.

Tyler (51:14):
Yeah. Your grandpa.

Danny (51:16):
I'm a grandpa. Grandpa. You know? And and Braden's
great. You know?
He's older and and Sheena andand Braxton and and and they're
making this little small familyand you're

Tyler (51:26):
happy for him, you know?

Danny (51:27):
Yeah. Tripp cut his hair. Man.

Tyler (51:31):
Haven't seen him.

Danny (51:31):
His hair looks a lot like yours.

Tyler (51:32):
Oh, dang.

Danny (51:33):
Yeah. He has a little bit of a beard and his hair is super
short.

Tyler (51:36):
Oh, dang.

Danny (51:37):
Yeah. Yeah. Life has been yeah. Mean, this keeps flowing.
Right?
Yeah. Yeah. Trying to, like,hold on to certain things of
like, damn, don't let that gotoo fast, you know? Yeah. I'm
sure you're I'm sure you're inthe same thing because the kids
got to be getting close togetting out of school.
Right?

Tyler (51:53):
Oh, yeah. Yeah. This last few weeks has been absolutely
insane. Cozy's had basically achoir practice or concert every
night this last week. I mean, Ithink there's literally, like,
three weeks of school left, andthen it's off for summer.

Danny (52:06):
What will get Ben will be a junior next year.

Tyler (52:09):
Yeah. His butt his his butt's gotta get a job this
summer. He's gonna have a realwe're gonna have a real Uh-oh.
He's getting a job. We're we're,like, we're cracking down.
Shit's leaving his room.Happening.

Danny (52:23):
How was his prom?

Tyler (52:25):
He I think he really enjoyed himself. He looked
really good in a suit. I wasreally impressed.

Danny (52:29):
Who did he go with?

Tyler (52:31):
He went with Olivia. Oh. I don't know Olivia's last name.

Danny (52:35):
Okay.

Tyler (52:37):
She's a darling little yeah. Same age as him.

Danny (52:41):
Oh, cool.

Tyler (52:42):
Yeah. Dad's the fire chief here in town, I guess. Oh,
shit.

Danny (52:45):
Man, have you seen that new fire station that's going
over on 12 South?

Tyler (52:49):
Yeah. It's like the mothership.

Danny (52:51):
That thing's huge. It's funny because every time we
drive past it, Preston's like,what's the name? What's the
what's the number of that?Because it has that big 51. Oh,
yeah.
Yeah.

Tyler (52:59):
He says, what's the number

Danny (53:00):
of this one? Do do you know? And we giggle because it
says 51.

Tyler (53:05):
50 1.

Danny (53:05):
Yeah. And Cozy, she's gonna be in what grade?

Tyler (53:08):
She's going into seventh.

Danny (53:10):
Wow. Yeah. I'm I'm Oh, so that's where where

Tyler (53:14):
She's still in middle school. She's still in the
she'll be in the same school.

Danny (53:17):
Oh.

Tyler (53:17):
They have sixth, seventh, and eighth in in the

Danny (53:20):
middle school. Stupid August? Yeah. Is that where she
goes to or does she go to theone by me?

Tyler (53:24):
No. She's at temp.

Danny (53:25):
Oh, she's at temp. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. So do you think that
she'll go to the new high schoolor to the old to to Wasatch?

Tyler (53:33):
She wants to go wherever her friends go. Uh-oh. Most of
her friends are in Midway.

Danny (53:38):
Uh-oh. So What is that one called? Riverhawk or River
Yeah.

Tyler (53:41):
I don't know. Deer Creek? Swamp Bottom? Deer Creek?

Danny (53:44):
I don't know.

Tyler (53:45):
It is like they

Danny (53:46):
Swamp Ass.

Tyler (53:46):
They announced it and then they quickly recalled it
and changed it.

Danny (53:49):
That thing goes ugly on It was That thing got ugly.
Yeah. That thing got ugly, man.That whole that whole school
board thing with that wholeYeah. Situation got ugly.

Tyler (53:57):
Yeah. Yeah. Right? I guess that's why he gets paid
the big bucks in town, man.

Danny (54:02):
Let's go. Give me that job. And then you said Brynn is
not coming home.

Tyler (54:09):
She's she's living in Logan this year. She's working
full time and student full timestudent. So

Danny (54:17):
she's What do you think about that? Not her not coming
home. She's been home the lasttwo. So Oh,

Tyler (54:20):
I'm so stoked for her. Yeah. Her little spot's great.

Danny (54:23):
She's adulting.

Tyler (54:25):
Yeah. She's got her own room, her own bathroom. You know
what I mean? Is she still goodroommates.

Danny (54:31):
Sorority?

Tyler (54:31):
I think she's going to. She only has technically one
more semester she has to pay andthen she's considered, like,
academically, you know, she cannot pay and still be in it and
just focus on her grades.

Danny (54:45):
Oh, wow.

Tyler (54:46):
I guess. I don't know. I don't know how it works. The
sisterhood wants their money,I'm sure. But the the the the
three girls she's living withare all girls from the sorority.

Danny (54:57):
Oh, cool. Yeah. That's good.

Tyler (54:59):
Yeah. No. It's been it's been great for her. I think
she's really she's really it'shelped her, like, socially
blossom.

Danny (55:05):
Okay.

Tyler (55:06):
Yeah. And she's working at a daycare facility.

Danny (55:09):
Dang. So That's good. Does she did she ever figure out
her major?

Tyler (55:13):
Yeah. Yeah. She's studying speech pathology.

Danny (55:18):
Oh, cool. Yeah. How's yours coming along? Are you
still in the master's program?

Tyler (55:21):
Are you I'm grinding. I'm grinding. I don't know. I mean,
I think a lot of this comes withthe change that I wanna make.
Sure.
I think as far as that goes,right, I'm I'm I'm I'm like
right in the middle where it'slike, it's kind of dumb if I if
I give up, it's something Ireally wanna do. It's where I
see my future. I have so manythings that I I want to get

(55:43):
going. I'm watching this kid whojust sold he just quit his job
and just like Corey, he's like,bought a sailboat. He's sailing
from Oregon to Hawaii.

Danny (55:52):
I've been watching him.

Tyler (55:53):
And I'm just like

Danny (55:54):
Yeah. He's so

Tyler (55:55):
cool. Yeah. I'm like, what what am I doing here?

Danny (55:58):
Yeah.

Tyler (55:59):
$50 sailboat. He's like eating peanut butter. He's like,
I've eaten beans and rice forsix months. Yeah. I'm sailing to
in Hawaii?
Yeah.

Danny (56:07):
Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler (56:08):
That's cool. And he goes viral and, like, he's, you know,
a million followers over in aweek. A cool kid.

Danny (56:16):
Yeah. I've watched a couple of his things. Well,
cool, man. Yeah. What a fun I'mglad to be back here.

Tyler (56:22):
Yeah. We'll get I'm glad that

Danny (56:23):
we're back in the groove of

Tyler (56:24):
the Routine. Yeah.

Danny (56:26):
I'm glad that we had this just we were good. We we didn't
know what we were gonna do, butwe were just like, let's just
chat. Yeah. Let's just bullshit.Let's recover or let's rehash
what's been going on.

Tyler (56:35):
Yeah.

Danny (56:36):
And who cares how it flows.

Tyler (56:38):
Yeah. And Just go with

Danny (56:39):
it. Get back to just man, big shout out to ATC Jeremy.

Tyler (56:45):
Yeah.

Danny (56:46):
This dude is putting in the work. He just did a video
for BlackLine, and it lookeddamn near professional. Oh,
really? Bro, he is putting inthe work. And I told him, I was
like, in a couple years, youwon't even remember this version
of Jeremy, but people will seewho you're what you're doing,
and they'll be asking you somany questions.

(57:07):
They'll be, like, trying totrying to emulate what you're
doing, and you'll you'll haveall this experience of failures
to to tell them. And it won'teven matter if they listen to
you because you're gonna belike, cool. Don't listen to me.
I'm doing my thing.

Tyler (57:19):
Yeah. We should get him back on because I see he's got a
new drone or another drone.

Danny (57:23):
We're going to we talked about it the other day for him
to come up and get in the busand and do do the do part two of
ATC Jeremy. But big shout out tohim. He's that he he's one of
he's one of my best buds atwork. He's always, like, so
stoked, now he's asking howyou're doing and how

(57:44):
everything's going for us. Andhe's a great guy.
I appreciate him a lot.

Tyler (57:48):
Yeah. Yeah. So big shout out

Danny (57:50):
to him. So anybody else? Anything else?

Tyler (57:52):
No. I think that's good. It's good. It's kind of a long
episode, long meanderingepisode. We needed it.
Appreciate y'all.

Danny (57:58):
Okay. Well, we'll see you

Tyler (57:59):
next time. Cheers.

Danny (58:00):
See you guys.