Navigating the Skies and Roads with ATC Jeremy

In this episode, Danny and Tyler welcome ATC Jeremy, an air traffic controller and motorcycle enthusiast. They delve into Jeremy's journey from the Air Force to civilian air traffic control, his love for motorcycling, and the profound experiences of riding across the country. The discussion covers the challenges and rewards of both careers, the importance of finding community and support, and the personal growth that comes from stepping out of one’s comfort zone. Tune in for inspiring stories, practical insights, and a celebration of shared passions.

Episode Transcript

Tyler (00:09):
Welcome back to the last Boy Scouts podcast. We got a
guest. Super stoked. I wanna sayit's our first guest, but it's
really not our first guest.

Danny (00:15):
Our first guest. Yeah. But our first, like,
collaboration almost. Right?Like, so, introduce, ATC Jeremy.
ATC Jeremy and I, Jeremy Ayala,we work together. We've, worked
together for, I mean, betterpart of 10 years almost. How
long have you been in Salt Lake?

ATC Jeremy (00:32):
8 or 9 years. Yeah.

Danny (00:32):
Yeah. Better part of 10 years. Yeah. Yeah. And, we went
to the reggae concert, a couplemonths ago, and, Tyler and
Jeremy, they met there.

Tyler (00:42):
Yeah. It was the first time I got to to meet you. So
tell us your backstory, man.Where did you get started? Like,
how did you get into what Dannydoes?

Danny (00:51):
Yeah. So we're both air traffic controllers just so you
guys know.

ATC Jeremy (00:53):
Yeah. So for me, I started in the air force, but
actually just like you.

Danny (00:56):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (00:56):
Yeah. So I started in the air force. I really
didn't know what I wanna doafter high school. I was trying
to do a firefighter thing, but Ifeel like that's something that
everybody wants to do at thedealership. That's kinda hard

Danny (01:06):
to do. Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (01:07):
And I found air traffic control in the air
force. So I did that for 7years. I deployed to Iraq,
Kuwait, and it was 7 years atthe same place. So at that
point, my wife and I had to lookat each other and say, hey. What
you gonna do?
Yeah. We we're planning to gosomewhere we don't wanna go if
we stay in. Yeah. We can kindatry the civilian thing out. So

Danny (01:26):
Yeah. And so, like, you didn't know you were gonna be an
air traffic controller when youwent into the into the military?

ATC Jeremy (01:32):
No. Well, not at first.

Danny (01:33):
Okay.

ATC Jeremy (01:33):
Right? So you go to MAPS. Right? Right. And I
applied for all these jobs.
They tried to have me do, theytried to have me put down
maintainer on there, but I hadworked on boats. Like, that's
what I did after high school.Every time I do that. If you
want me to put that on thereYeah. I'm out.
Yeah. And, like, wait. Comeback.

Danny (01:46):
That's insane.

ATC Jeremy (01:48):
So

Danny (01:48):
Yeah. It's crazy because, like, just for the frame of
reference, and I I and a lot ofour audience probably has some
military background. But, thethe way that Jeremy's career
went is a little bit differentthan mine because I knew I was
gonna be an air trafficcontroller. That was III had
already figured like, because ofthe guard, you you have your job

(02:08):
prior to going into Well,

ATC Jeremy (02:11):
mine did. Mine did. Eventually, like, whenever they
kinda sorted out, and I was inthe delayed entry program. Okay.
So they they're kinda like, hey.
You can have this job Yeah.Like, eventually after maps and
everything. You can have thisjob. We can guarantee this job,
but it doesn't start for, Idon't know what it was, 6 months
or something like that. Andduring that whole time, they
kept calling me, hey.
If you wanna leave tomorrow,there's this job or that job.

(02:31):
You know?

Danny (02:31):
Oh, I understand.

ATC Jeremy (02:32):
So I did have a job locked in.

Danny (02:34):
What, time of year did you go to San Antonio?

ATC Jeremy (02:38):
I went in January, the beginning of January,
January 6th. Yeah.

Danny (02:42):
It's cold there.

ATC Jeremy (02:42):
Yeah.

Danny (02:43):
Yeah. And then, Mississippi, when?

ATC Jeremy (02:46):
Mississippi and it's June or July. No. Wait. No.
That's when I got out of there.
I think it was March.

Danny (02:50):
Dude, June July in Mississippi. Right? Yeah. That's
insane in Mississippi. Man.
Hot, bro.

ATC Jeremy (02:55):
But it's fun.

Danny (02:55):
Yeah. Mississippi's cool. Mississippi's a good time. And
then, so you and Jen are bothfrom California?

ATC Jeremy (03:02):
Yeah. Both from California. I'm from Southern
California, and my wife's fromNorthern California.

Danny (03:05):
Okay.

ATC Jeremy (03:06):
And, yeah, we both met up when I was at the Air
Force Base. Air Force. Prettymuch, like, at a bar. Right?
It's kinda cliche.

Danny (03:12):
Yeah. Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (03:12):
I was actually DDing for 1 of my buddies.

Danny (03:15):
Okay.

ATC Jeremy (03:15):
He was going to Iraq. So I was like, man, I'll
be your DD, and I'm just sittingat the bar. She walks up, and I
just see she had her hair poopedup kind of in the front. Yeah.
She walked I don't know why Idid it, but I was just like,
poof.

Tyler (03:25):
Right on top

ATC Jeremy (03:25):
of her head. And her friend's like,

Danny (03:28):
did that guy just hit you? Did.

ATC Jeremy (03:30):
Face the bar. You know? I was kinda bored. Yeah.
And so she shook my shoulder.
She's like, hey. What the heck?

Danny (03:35):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (03:35):
And I was like, I'm Jeremy.

Danny (03:36):
That's awesome.

ATC Jeremy (03:37):
That's kinda where it all

Danny (03:38):
That's started. Started.

ATC Jeremy (03:39):
That's awesome.

Danny (03:40):
And so you did you have between your military service
and Salt Lake TRACON, did youhave any air traffic in between,
or did you go military rightinto the FAA?

ATC Jeremy (03:50):
Yeah. I took about 2 weeks off.

Danny (03:52):
Okay.

ATC Jeremy (03:52):
And then we packed up the 2 wheel drive Silverado
in the wintertime and headedover the Sierras. And it was it
was pretty scary because Yeah.

Danny (03:59):
For sure.

ATC Jeremy (04:00):
My wife and I are not from anywhere that snows.

Danny (04:01):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (04:02):
So we came over the Sierras. There's snow on the
ground. My truck got sideways.She's like, did you fall asleep?
Yeah.

Danny (04:07):
I did. I was

ATC Jeremy (04:07):
like, no. So we pulled off for a little bit
there.

Danny (04:09):
That's insane. Yeah. That's crazy to me because,
there's so many different waysto come to the TRACON, but the
TRACON was your because of themilitary experience, because of
how the military gives you airtraffic, a lot of times you do
are able to go into a higherlevel facility from the street,
which would technically be anoff the street, but because he
has military career, it's a VAhire, a veteran hire. And so

(04:35):
that's such a normal thing forme back then. Back, like,
between my time frame and yourtime frame, which was 10 years,
it was normal to have a lot ofmilitary guys.
We don't have the same thinganymore. No. We don't have the
same kind of, like, backgroundwhere where people had military
and then coming into the to theinto the air traffic. What was

(04:56):
your first thought of theTRACON?

ATC Jeremy (04:59):
I think when I walked in, I was kinda
intimidated.

Danny (05:01):
For sure.

ATC Jeremy (05:02):
You know? I mean, I walked down there. I think
everybody thought I was asupervisor. Right? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I wasdefinitely intimidated, but I
feel like everybody was prettywelcoming for the most part. You
know what I mean? It dependedreally on where you were because
there's people that don't evermake a mistake in their entire
life.
Yeah. And there is, you know,there's humble people who will,

(05:23):
you know, who will bring you in,take you under the wing, and,
hey. Look. Everybody makesmistakes, but learn from those
mistakes. You know?
You're really good at that.Yeah. You know, very patient.

Danny (05:30):
I remember, like, you know, the first part of our
relationship, I was still in mykind of grumpy stages towards
developmentals. So, like,because, like, when you're
coming into, air traffic, you'reconsidered developmental for
about 2 years, and you you workunder somebody's, ticket. So

Tyler (05:47):
Some mentorship.

Danny (05:48):
A mentorship. Yeah. So, like, if if Jeremy plugs in and
I'm and we both plug intogether, then if he makes a
mistake, I can overkey hisfrequency and and fix it.

Tyler (05:58):
Correct it.

Danny (05:58):
And I was still kinda grumpy, so I don't know if we
technically had, like, the bestrelationship in as a
developmental because I waskinda grumpy towards people.
But, we had a mutual friend,Jordan Johnson, who was like a
mutual friend between us, and hewas my developmental. And we
kind of, developed arelationship after Jeremy got,

(06:20):
certified. And then once wedeveloped a relationship, we
were pretty close after that.Like, we always had each other's
back.
And even to this day, I wouldconsider Jeremy 1 of my better
friends at work Same. Andalways, like, has my back.
Always 100% has, my back. And inthat career field, there's a lot
of alpha personalities. You needto have somebody that will

(06:42):
constantly and continually haveyour back and always stick up
for you, which I think Jeremy,does a really good job of.
I think he has a goodpersonality for that and which
is really cool because you youneed that.

ATC Jeremy (06:54):
You need that. Yeah.

Danny (06:55):
For sure.

ATC Jeremy (06:56):
And you're definitely the same way.

Tyler (06:57):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (06:57):
Don't don't be lying. You're definitely the
same way.

Danny (07:00):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (07:00):
But, also, you you call a spade a spade, man. If
somebody's messing up, you'redefinitely you're gonna hold
somebody accountable.

Danny (07:04):
Yeah. Which I think I carry on into my outside line
too.

Tyler (07:07):
Oh, definitely in the jujitsu gym. Right? Like, it's
kind of the same

ATC Jeremy (07:12):
Yeah.

Tyler (07:12):
Kinda same process. You gotta correct people.

Danny (07:14):
For sure.

Tyler (07:15):
We had, 3 white belts last night, which is which is
kinda unique. You know?

Danny (07:20):
In Nick's class.

Tyler (07:21):
Nick's class.

Danny (07:22):
Usually, you don't get another white belt.

Tyler (07:23):
And so Frost had to crack the whip a little bit, and I'm
surprised Nick didn't. I thinkNick was pretty jovial. But

Danny (07:28):
He was happy to have people

Tyler (07:30):
He was happy to have people there. But

Danny (07:31):
For sure.

Tyler (07:32):
Yeah. Had to crack the whip a little bit on the the
white belts. Just chatting it.Yeah. Cheety chatty.

Danny (07:37):
Yeah. That's it. That's funny. And so talk to us a
little bit about them. How like,how did you come into
motorcycles?
Like, from just so we've talkedbefore and I've talked about
this about Jeremy, I have noframe of reference for a
motorcycle. I've never been on amotorcycle, never rode a
motorcycle, never even really,like, had the idea to jump on 1,

(08:02):
but and I've lived vicariouslythrough you guys. Right? Because
I don't like that. I have noidea.

ATC Jeremy (08:08):
For me, I always wanted to have a motorcycle. I
grew up a really poor kid.

Danny (08:12):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (08:13):
And I remember watching I think it was a Disney
movie. I don't remember if youcan recall. It's called the bike
rack or wait. The dirt bike kid.

Danny (08:19):
Okay.

ATC Jeremy (08:20):
Alright. And this kid, like, some snotty kid
doesn't want his motorcycle.He's kicking it, you know, and
he ends up buying it for, like,trading his bike for it. Sure.
Like that.
But his bike has a mind of itsown. Okay. Kirby, the car. Oh,
yeah.

Danny (08:30):
Yeah. Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (08:30):
So you know? And and I was always like, man. You
know, as a kid, I really wish Icould get a bike, you know, and
finally, like, getting into highschool, I was able to save up
and got

Danny (08:38):
a dirt bike. Okay.

ATC Jeremy (08:38):
I loved it. But fast forward into the military, that
bike is still in Californiasomewhere in a friend's garage.

Danny (08:44):
That's sick.

ATC Jeremy (08:45):
I came home from Iraq, and my wife had a
motorcycle in the garage for me.

Danny (08:49):
Oh, no way. Oh,

ATC Jeremy (08:50):
wow. Yeah. She surprised me with the with the
Harley Davidson.

Danny (08:53):
With a Harley. Yeah. Because you're a Harley guy.
Right? Like, that's that's yourkind of, like, your thing.

ATC Jeremy (08:58):
Yeah. It's really all I ride, and bike was in the
garage, and I didn't have Ididn't even have a motorcycle
license. Really?

Danny (09:04):
Yeah. So So you actually have to have a motorcycle
license when you're riding abike. You have to have, like,

Tyler (09:08):
only if you get pulled over.

ATC Jeremy (09:10):
Yes. That's true.

Danny (09:11):
Nice. Yeah. Really?

ATC Jeremy (09:13):
But I was in the Air Force too. Right? So Air Force
is strict. They have a class youcan take on in while you're in
the Air Force. It's done by inCalifornia, anyway, by the CHP.
Sure. And once you do thatclass, you don't have to do any
other tests. You pretty muchjust, you know, get your like,
go to the DMV, take the test,you have your license. Wow. But
from that's where it startedfrom.
You know? And then when we cameout here so I've always been a
person that was never able to doanything by myself. Okay. K. I

(09:35):
always had to have people to gowith.

Danny (09:37):
Sure.

ATC Jeremy (09:37):
I could never be by myself. When I came out here and
I was alone, and I realized thepeople here, like, they don't do
things together after work.Agreed. So I was like, you know,
and that's where me and Jordankinda came together as well. But
kinda before that, I was like,you know what?
I need to if I'm gonna, youknow, survive out here, I need
to get out and go do things onmy own and learn how to enjoy
myself by myself.

Danny (09:58):
Right.

ATC Jeremy (09:58):
You know? And that's where I kinda fell in love with
it. You know?

Danny (10:01):
And you, like, put a lot of, time and money for sure
Yeah. Into your bikes. Right?

Tyler (10:07):
Well, go through the hierarchy. What was the first
bike? What was the first do youremember what it was? Like,
make, model?

Danny (10:13):
Like,

ATC Jeremy (10:13):
it was a

Tyler (10:13):
Harley, but, like yeah.

ATC Jeremy (10:15):
Yeah. So it's the 1 my wife got me, and that 1, I'm
constantly restoring and keepingtogether. Oh, so you still You

Danny (10:19):
still have it?

ATC Jeremy (10:20):
Yeah. Still have it.

Danny (10:20):
Oh, no.

ATC Jeremy (10:21):
Yeah. It's the 1 that's at the shop right now.
Shit. Yeah. So that one's a 2016Dyno Low Runner.
And Okay. Yeah. That's too manytoo many upgrades to to name,
but I always just kinda refreshit.

Danny (10:32):
You know? Okay.

ATC Jeremy (10:33):
Put new Chrome on it or, you know, just keeping the
paint fresh by details.

Danny (10:37):
That's I

Tyler (10:37):
mean, that's a pretty significant purchase. Like,
that's pretty cool of her. Wow.Like, testament to your
relationship. Yeah.

Danny (10:43):
And Yeah.

Tyler (10:44):
You know, like, that she would show up with or, you know,
have that for you, but, like,that's cool on you for, like,
keeping it

ATC Jeremy (10:51):
Yeah. Keeping it around. I'm like Yeah. I mean,

Tyler (10:53):
that's cool. It's like this is something that's part of
who you guys are, part of yourhistory, and part of

ATC Jeremy (10:57):
your Yeah. I love it because I love story. You know?
Yeah.

Danny (10:59):
It's so cool. Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (11:00):
Yeah. Gonna take me coming in and everything because
I was like, hey. I need to goget my weapons out of the car,
you know, because I was supposedto take them straight to base.
You know? And I I stoppedtelling first and and stayed
there for a little bit.
And she's like, no. No. Go justgo through the garage. I don't
want the dog to go out thefront. I was like, okay.
You know?

Danny (11:14):
That's so cool.

ATC Jeremy (11:15):
And I have the video. I can send it to you.
Yeah. We need to see it, dude.It's just I was like, what the
heck?
Obviously, little me. Right?

Tyler (11:21):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (11:23):
They are super super amazing gift, man, and and it
just definitely opened a lot ofdoors for me.

Danny (11:27):
Right.

ATC Jeremy (11:27):
And then after that, we got this 1. And she said
trade in that 1 the old 1, and Iwas like, there's no way. Yeah.
I'm keeping that bike for him.

Danny (11:34):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (11:35):
But I got this bike to go on long trips with her.

Danny (11:38):
Okay.

ATC Jeremy (11:38):
You know?

Danny (11:38):
So you because it's more comfortable.

ATC Jeremy (11:39):
More comfortable for long for long, distance, cruise
control, and the big old tourpack on the back to hold more
stuff for, you know Oh, yeah.Yeah. Hair clothes and whatnot
as well. Right. The balance of2023 real glad.
Okay. Yeah.

Danny (11:54):
And and this 1 is the 1 that, like, I know I've seen the
other 1 a bunch, and I like theother 1. But this 1, this thing
is, like, showcase. When hepulled up, he said, I should've
gotten the other side, and Idon't really know what that
means. But on the other side,like, it is legit. It's all
black.
The lit literally, all black.Everything except for a couple

(12:15):
of bolts, it looks like, is allblack on

ATC Jeremy (12:17):
my end. We'll we'll we'll remedy that.

Danny (12:19):
Nice, dude. But you so did you have to do all the black
stuff

ATC Jeremy (12:23):
to it? Did

Danny (12:23):
you put a

ATC Jeremy (12:23):
lot of it? Did. Yeah. A lot of it, I did. I
don't know if they can see fromthe camera, but, the rotors, the
the shift linkage.

Danny (12:32):
Dude. Bunch of stuff on the show.

ATC Jeremy (12:34):
Start to name it all. Yeah. Yeah. And then also
so that big tour pack, you seethat big old black thing on the
back of it there? That's a tourpack.
And when I bought that fromHarley Davidson, they were doing
some type of giveaway. Right? Soif you spent so many amount of
dollars, they give you this manytickets to win

Danny (12:51):
Okay. A

ATC Jeremy (12:51):
motorcycle.

Danny (12:52):
Win a motorcycle.

ATC Jeremy (12:54):
Then they called me, and I won another motorcycle. So
this guy Love it.

Danny (12:59):
This guy yeah. I remember, like, him telling me,
bro, you're gonna shoot yourpants. I want a motorcycle.

ATC Jeremy (13:06):
I'm like, what the fuck

Danny (13:07):
are you talking about? And he's like, I want a
motorcycle. And then he sends methe video of of them calling
him, and sure shit. This jokerwins a motorcycle. It's like a
kid's size motorcycle, though.

ATC Jeremy (13:21):
Yeah. It's very small. Like, people are
laughing, but it's so much funto ride. Yeah. These big guys
are, like, £700, £900, you know,for my for these 2.
But the other one's only, like,£450, so it feels like a
bicycle.

Tyler (13:36):
Yeah. And it just it's so fun to ride. Yeah. That was that
was my Ducati. My Ducati was

Danny (13:42):
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler (13:42):
Fully loaded was, like, 500.

ATC Jeremy (13:44):
Oh, yeah.

Tyler (13:45):
At at that's all gassed up. And it felt like a vise

ATC Jeremy (13:48):
flows in the Yeah.

Danny (13:49):
Yeah. When you when, the there's a video of what Jeremy
had posted, where a guy pulls upin a badass Bronco and, like,
says, hey. What do you thinkabout names the bike? And all of
a sudden, I was like, that'sinsane. Like, a guy jumps out.
No. Doesn't even know you, butyou guys have an instant
relationship between the bikes.And he, like, he was stoked, and

(14:11):
and then eventually, you foundout that the guy had worked for
Harley or something, shit likethat. Right?

ATC Jeremy (14:14):
Yeah. So that's what's really cool about the
Harley community and justHarleys in general. When you
pull up to the gas station onthe Harley, people wanna talk to
you. Sure. You know, they nicebike.
You know? Where are you comingfrom? Where are you going? Oh,
yeah. You know?
And I think that's so cool.Yeah. You know, the motorcycle
community itself is tight, butalso, you know, there's people
around that. They rode before.They wish they can ride or, you
know, they wanna livevicariously kinda through your

(14:35):
videos or whatever.
And I just I think it's amazing.

Danny (14:38):
That which goes back to your point of the fact that when
you when you first started it,you you and you moved to Utah,
you said you needed to find,like, because we don't hang out
outside of work. And so, like,you spend a lot of time at work
with these people. Right? Andthen you don't hang out with
them outside of work, so youhave to find that community.
Like, Tyler always says thatword that he phrases the common
unity.
What are we common? What do Ihave in common with you that

(15:01):
will get past maybe some of thebullshit Yeah. That that that is
there. Right? Or the superficialshit that that we, as men, like,
tend to put up.
Right? And especially, like, abig dude like you, I would
probably say that it's not likeyou're very approachable because
you're a a really big dude with,like, intimidating, outlook, you

(15:24):
know, like a forward like, it'slike, holy shit. This guy? And,
but but getting to know you,like, you have, like, genuine,
genuine things that you'repassionate about, genuine things
that you can share with people.And then when you find that what
like, we talk like like, we talkabout that calm and unity, then
it's like, okay.
I can see past all the othershit. Right? I I can get past

(15:47):
all that stuff. And I thinkthat's cool. Like, the the
motorcycle community is probablyit's gotta be, like, vast,
because there's, like, Harleyshops.
Yeah. And, like, it's Harleyshops to me are, like,
destination points. Right? Like,in my mind, like, you you the 1
in Park City is, like, crazy.

ATC Jeremy (16:05):
Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people, you know, that's kinda
part of what they do, and theycollect the chips from the
dealerships or ride to them.And, actually, that's what I'm
doing. And I'm either gonnaleave Saturday or Sunday, but
I'm riding to Kansas to go meetup with Adam Sandoval.
He's a a YouTube guy that does,a lot of, like, charity work for
the Wounded Warrior pro,program. Oh, yeah. Wounded

(16:26):
Warrior Project.

Danny (16:27):
Let's put his we'll put his, information up just so
people have it.

ATC Jeremy (16:30):
Yeah. So he ride so he's doing huge ride where he's
going dealership to dealershipacross the country, headed up
he's gonna end up in Sturgis,and he's trying to, earn a set
amount to donate to woundedwarrior warrior projects. Oh,
cool.

Danny (16:40):
Oh, wow. That's awesome. That's and you're gonna go drive
out there.

ATC Jeremy (16:43):
Yeah. 1 thing for part of it, not the entire
convoy, but just this littlepart.

Danny (16:47):
1 thing that I know, like, is that is that is really
crazy to me is that idea ofjumping on your bike and, like,
driving 1, 000 miles on yourbike. Like, jumping on there and
riding a 1000 miles or some ofthose, like, big long because
speak to this. Like, you'dyou've done some 1 day long ass

ATC Jeremy (17:06):
jump on bike. Miles in a day?

Danny (17:07):
A 1000 miles in a day. Yeah. Sitting on that thing for
a 1000 miles in 1 city.

ATC Jeremy (17:12):
Yeah. You have a lot to think about. A lot of time to
think about things. You know?

Danny (17:16):
Does yeah.

ATC Jeremy (17:17):
It started yeah. Those things for my friends and
I just started off as achallenge. And then last year, I
wanted to go to the 120thanniversary because I was part
of this same convoy. Okay. Onlywent to a part of it here in
Utah, but I wanted to go to theend where they're gonna meet up,
and it was Milwaukee.
I had 2 days off. You know,Milwaukee is, like, 1400 miles
away. So I just said, I can doit.

Danny (17:40):
I think

ATC Jeremy (17:40):
I can do it. I think you called me because you said
I'd take my shift, and then youcalled me back, hey, man. Can
you take that shift back?

Tyler (17:44):
I was like,

ATC Jeremy (17:45):
dude, I'm in I don't remember where I was. Somewhere
in Wyoming.

Danny (17:48):
God. Dude, that's insane. And so when you're when you do
that and you're like like yousaid, like, you're you're in
your thoughts the whole time.Right? Like, it's like it would
be like cons like like running amarathon or, like Yeah.
And and then there's gonna bepoints where you're like, you
know what? Fuck this. I don'twanna do this anymore.

ATC Jeremy (18:04):
Dude, when you called me then, I I was thinking
that because I had my faceshield open, and I got hit in
the face with a bee. And I Ithink I got, like, stung, like,
on the tip of my nose. And I waslike, is that, like, a sign?
This is is this Yes. Stupid.
You know? I mean, what am Igonna do? Get there, turn
around, and come back? Whichthat's pretty much what I did.
Yeah.
I got there, spent a few hours,you know, said hi to the guys I

(18:25):
met, and then saw the HarleyDavidson Museum and came back.
And good thing, 1 of oursupervisors got a hold of me
because I had a request in forthe next day off because I was
gonna have to ride through thenight Mhmm. And just go straight
to work without any sleep. And,he called me. He's like, hey,
man.
You have the day off. So Ipulled off somewhere in
Nebraska, you know, and they hadCon they had an Olympic

(18:48):
badminton team, like, eventgoing on. So every hotel's
booked booked. I was like, areyou serious? And they're like,
yeah.
How do you not know this?

Danny (18:57):
Yeah. I didn't know

ATC Jeremy (18:58):
that was a thing.

Danny (18:59):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (18:59):
But, I mean, I guess there's, you know, there's
different types of athleteseverywhere. Right? For sure.

Danny (19:03):
So I would consider that like an athletic feat, like,
driving that kind of a distanceon a motorcycle. Mentally, like,
mentally, you're you'reexhausted. Right? And now you're
on this 2 wheels that you'retrying to control the whole
time.

ATC Jeremy (19:18):
Yeah. There's quite a bit of cognitive load. What
are you what are

Tyler (19:20):
you thinking about? Like like, on a long ride like that,
like, what is what's keeping yougoing?

ATC Jeremy (19:25):
I don't know, man. I'm just I'm always jamming to
music or, you know, singingsometimes, saying stupid things,
you know, thinking about, oh,I'm gonna call my bike this. And
then by time I get done riding,like, I'm gonna

Danny (19:37):
be talking about a full conversation.

Tyler (19:38):
Because you really do. Like, I mean, I have a
relatively small experienceriding. Right? I bought a bike
last summer. Unfortunately, Ihad to unload it here.
My dad grew up with Harley'sRocky Mountain Harley Davidson.
It was the shop we'd go to askids, and he got really friendly
with Vinnie who was the shopowner and, like, always had a
bike. Did did Sturgis severaltimes. But, like, you it's like

(20:02):
you become 1. You have aconnection with it because you
can't you you have to bepresent.
You have to be present. 100%.Because if you disassociate, if
you that's when that's when shitshit goes back.

ATC Jeremy (20:15):
Yeah. Right? I could

Danny (20:15):
see that. Yeah. That's insane. I really I guess I
wouldn't even have thought likeyou said, Tyler. Like, I
wouldn't even have put in thethe the idea that you you can't
wander too far.
Right? You can't drift too far.

Tyler (20:26):
Right.

ATC Jeremy (20:27):
Yeah. But you're also, like, on a motorcycle.
What I love about it is, firstof all, your mind is completely
occupied because of just likeyou said. You have to be hyper
focused. Right?
Because you're watching out forthings on their own, vehicles on
their own, the weather, youknow, but also outside of the
things that you're worriedabout, you're also taking in the
smells, the sights, the windthat's blowing you. It's

(20:47):
raining. You know? Am I gonnaget through this storm? Yeah.
You know? So it's just, like,complete you're completely
immersed in your environment.

Danny (20:56):
Yeah. That's insane. That's a cool that is it's a
cool. It's gotta be, like, avery euphoric and a very, like,
I, high. And, like, a naturalhigh of of what you're going
through because your emotionsare probably firing.
Every single emotion firing at,like It's exciting. Yeah, bro.

Tyler (21:12):
Yeah. Just like a very heavy cognitive load. A lot of
problem solving. Yeah. You know,probably not too dissimilar from
what you guys do on station.
Right?

ATC Jeremy (21:21):
Like Sure.

Tyler (21:22):
Having to solve problems. But yeah. What's the craziest
weather you've you've ridden in?

Danny (21:27):
Bro, before we go on, this guy this guy rode all
winter. Right. He rode allwinter. Do you do you remember
that video of him, like, themsliding on the on the road?
Like, this guy, like, rideseverywhere, bro.

ATC Jeremy (21:39):
Yeah. I need to stop doing that too, man. We don't
care if this keep going on. AndI think it's because the self on
the road.

Danny (21:44):
Oh, yeah. It's gotta be terrible

ATC Jeremy (21:45):
for the bike, so I might just start driving during
the wintertime. It's probably asmart thing. It's not very safe.

Tyler (21:50):
Or you just get a winter bike. That's just a bike for
wintertime.

ATC Jeremy (21:53):
Yeah. There you go. Exactly. So that way, all your
other bikes are good. You know?

Danny (21:57):
What is the word the craziest?

ATC Jeremy (22:00):
I think definitely the probably the nastiest storm
I was in was coming back fromMilwaukee.

Danny (22:07):
Oh, yeah.

ATC Jeremy (22:07):
Yeah. I when I was coming back from Milwaukee, I
saw the clouds up ahead. I sawthe signs, severe weather. And
so I pulled out underneath thebridge, put on my rain gear, and
I think I had boot covers too,so they go over your stuff. You
know?
And I think the water was, like,halfway up my wheel. Mhmm. You
couldn't see out of my visor. Iwas following, Like, people are
going super slow. I was justfollowing lights blinking.

Danny (22:29):
Damn.

ATC Jeremy (22:29):
I couldn't see anything. And there was
lightning, and it was probablystupid to be on the road. But I
all I kept thinking of myselfis, like, there's a 1 of my OG
homies from Sturgis. Mhmm. Healways he's saying kind of his
because we rode through ahailstorm going to Sturgis.

Danny (22:41):
Okay.

ATC Jeremy (22:42):
And this dude didn't have a helmet on. I'm like, what
are you doing? Right? And hissaying was, what am I gonna do?
Stop.
And then what if the weather'smoving the way I'm going? Then
I'm gonna have to be in itagain. So I'm thinking about
what he said. You know? I'mlike, if I stop, I'm a have to
do this again.

Danny (22:53):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (22:54):
So I just keep pushing, you know, and come out
the other side and sunshine andrain.

Tyler (22:58):
Yeah. Yeah. That's funny. That's like buffalo mentality.
Like, have you ever, like,studied buffalo?

Danny (23:03):
Yeah. Run at

ATC Jeremy (23:04):
it.

Tyler (23:04):
They run into the storm

ATC Jeremy (23:06):
Go on.

Tyler (23:06):
Because they know the best food is on the other end of
that storm. So they'll run intoit.

ATC Jeremy (23:10):
Yeah.

Tyler (23:11):
And, you know, while most other other creatures will run
away from it, they'll run rightthrough it. Yeah.

Danny (23:16):
And so, like, when that happens, do you say to yourself,
like, alright. I'm I'm gonnamake it to this this point. Or
do you, like, fuck it. I'm,like, I'm charging.

ATC Jeremy (23:31):
Yeah. I mean, a lot of times a lot of times, I'm
like, you do kinda talk toyourself back and forth. Right?
You're like, is this stupid?Right.
Is I mean, should I pull off atthe next gas station? Okay. I'm
going to. And then you start getthere's a next gas station.
Looks like it's kinda lightingup up there, though.

Danny (23:48):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (23:48):
You know?

Tyler (23:49):
Yeah. Yeah. You definitely

ATC Jeremy (23:50):
have that self battle, you know, and I always
do try I try to be safe. I mean,it's weird to say that after we
just said I ride in thewintertime and everything like
that, but I do try to be as safeas possible. I'm very connected
to my bike. Things that havegone wrong with my bike, I can
tell. When I take it to theshop, they're like, are you
sure?
And they check it out, and it'salways on their own.

Danny (24:07):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (24:07):
But you just have to really feel and know, you know,
your machine because it's very,very easy to lose your life on 1
of those things. Yeah. You don'tneed to have a mechanical feel.
No. No.
Snow, whatever. You know, dirtroads almost flushed down the
way up. Yeah. It was thescariest ride I've ever been on.

Danny (24:25):
We were setting up, and all of a sudden, it was just and
Tyler's like, well, I think Ihear Jeremy coming down the lane
and all that. And, like, we seethe lights coming down, and I
was thinking, what a cool, like,what a cool thing to be able to
do, like, be, in that moment. Soso now, Sturgis, I've only heard

(24:45):
stories. Right? Sturgis.
Is it as crazy as they say?

ATC Jeremy (24:50):
So this isn't what I tell people because people have
all these different theories.They're on sport bikes. They're
I'm not allowed to go. You know?Everybody's gonna hate me.
There's all these gangs,whatever. You know what I mean?

Danny (25:02):
That's what I would think.

ATC Jeremy (25:03):
Yeah. And then then on the women's side of thing,
they don't want you to go.Right? Because they think
there's basically women throwingtheir self at everybody.

Danny (25:10):
That's what I would think as well.

ATC Jeremy (25:11):
It's it Sturges is whatever you want it to be.

Danny (25:14):
Oh, okay.

ATC Jeremy (25:15):
Right? You can have the most peaceful time in
Sturgis, and you can camp awayfrom all the chaos, and you will
not see anything. Yeah. Youknow? There are clubs that have
businesses in Sturgis.
Right?

Danny (25:26):
Okay.

ATC Jeremy (25:28):
There are women that, you know

Danny (25:31):
Kill themselves.

ATC Jeremy (25:32):
No. I I honestly, I haven't seen that. You know what
I mean?

Danny (25:34):
You haven't been to the right clubs, maybe. Get the shit
out of you. Jen, I'm justjoking. Like, he's a bit don't
kick the shit out of him. Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (25:43):
I think it's fun. Like, I I thought when I first
went there, I was like I mean,my first time riding there, that
was when I hadn't really goneanywhere by myself.

Danny (25:51):
Okay. I think

ATC Jeremy (25:51):
that was my farthest trip.

Danny (25:52):
Sure.

ATC Jeremy (25:52):
I go to Sturgis because I felt like it was like
a rite of passage having aHarley. Right? Yeah. So I pull
up and I'm, like,

Danny (25:57):
super nervous. First of all,

ATC Jeremy (25:58):
I'm riding through the campground. I don't know
where to park, you know. I'mlike, I'm just gonna park right
here because you gotta put yourtent down next to all these
people. I don't know. So I pullup, you know, and I got my head
down.
I get off my bike, and I swearas soon as I got off my bike,
there are people that are, hey,man. Where'd you ride from? Wow.
You know, like, talking to me.

Tyler (26:13):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (26:14):
And it was, I mean, it was that fast that you start
building, like, making friends,like, Sturgis friends. Like,
every time I go there, we have,like, a group of 10 people just
always adding to that bunch ofpeople each time we go.

Danny (26:24):
God. But

ATC Jeremy (26:25):
it was 0 drama. It was awful. Yeah. Everybody was
super respectful. You know,everybody liked everybody's
bikes.
Nobody's causing any drama.

Danny (26:33):
Something at

ATC Jeremy (26:33):
1 time Really? Ever. Wasn't it a good 1?
Misunderstanding.

Danny (26:37):
Yeah. Always is.

ATC Jeremy (26:39):
There was a guy on top of this humongous thing, I
don't know, some huge bridge,and he cracked a beer while he's
hanging over. Okay. You knowsometimes they splatter a little
bit. Yeah. Yeah.
Some, shorter kind of buff guywas walking underneath, and he
was like, what the heck? And theguy was like, sorry. The guy
down below can't hear him, so hethinks he said, oh, well. Yeah.
He came up.
And all of a sudden, I rememberstanding up there, and this
guy's kinda walking. And Ilooked over, and I was like,

(27:01):
that's a nice change he got on.Oh. And he just took flight.
Beat the heck out of the wrongguy.

Danny (27:06):
Oh, no.

ATC Jeremy (27:06):
Yeah. The guy that didn't was standing next to him.
Oh, geez.

Danny (27:12):
That's bad luck.

ATC Jeremy (27:13):
Bad luck. No. And that guy was out so fast
security didn't even know, like,get there by the time it
happened. Right. I mean, thatwas the only thing I've ever
seen happen.
Really? Yeah. If you if peopleare trying to show body parts,
you're gonna get kicked out.

Danny (27:24):
Oh, really?

ATC Jeremy (27:25):
Yeah. You know, there has to be pasties at least
covering stuff. But, yeah, it'snot it's not as crazy as you
think it is, but it it is ascrazy as you want it to be.

Danny (27:33):
Sure. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably like a lot of things
where, like, you just said,like, you could whatever
experience you wanna have is theexperience you're going to have
for sure.

ATC Jeremy (27:41):
And if you're in if you're just in a crappy mood the
whole time, you're not gonnahave a good time. You have to
you have to put yourself outthere, and you have to be
willing to have fun.

Danny (27:51):
Right. And so is that your funnest place to go to? Is
Sturgis the funnest place to goto? Is there is there a better
1?

ATC Jeremy (28:00):
What I learned from the Milwaukee trip is that I
don't really like thedestination. I like the ride.

Danny (28:08):
Okay.

ATC Jeremy (28:09):
And it took me a long time

Danny (28:10):
to get

ATC Jeremy (28:11):
drunk. Dude. Yeah. Because going to Milwaukee too
so I would rather take the 2lane and the scenic route and be
in, like, stuff like this,right, than to be on the
interstate going straight.Right.
Right? I'd rather take my time,have more time, and experience,
stop often, meet the people inthe small towns, then just get

(28:32):
to a place and sit at adestination and get drunk all
day.

Danny (28:35):
Oh, that's good. That's cool.

ATC Jeremy (28:37):
I love the ride, and I love the people you share it
with. So BlackLine Speech Shopis not only a bike shop, but
they're a community. Right?

Danny (28:43):
Right.

ATC Jeremy (28:43):
So we do a lot of things together, a lot of
camping together, and stuff likethat. And every time we go
somewhere, we always take thetoo late, and we always have a
blast.

Danny (28:51):
That is so cool. When you talk about Milwaukee, Milwaukee
is the first, Harley Davidsondealership or no?

ATC Jeremy (28:59):
So Milwaukee is they have at the museum, they have,
like, an old replica of, like,the, little garage or shack that
the Harley Davidson Brothersused to, build the bikes and
everything. But, also, it's theHarley Davidson Museum itself,
and they have, like, all the oldtanks on the wall. They have all
the old bikes. Sure. Even theyhave what they think to be,

(29:23):
model number 1 there.

Danny (29:24):
Oh, wow. Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (29:25):
But they don't really know, like, for sure.
And, also, like, in the basementor whatever, they have
supposedly every Harley Davidsonthat's ever been made. Like, 1
of each model kind

Danny (29:35):
of thing.

ATC Jeremy (29:35):
1 of each. But I don't know that 100% for sure. I
wasn't able to go down there.

Danny (29:38):
That's insane.

ATC Jeremy (29:39):
You gotta do that. Yeah.

Danny (29:40):
That'd be great.

ATC Jeremy (29:41):
Racks of bikes. That's crazy.

Danny (29:43):
That's crazy.

Tyler (29:44):
And then Milwaukee is where the company was founded,
where they started. Like, that'sthat's the history with And the
old factories there? Okay. Andthey're still they're still
manufacture out of

ATC Jeremy (29:52):
Milwaukee. Milwaukee. Wow.

Danny (29:55):
So moving forward with, like, what you're doing now and
and how we've, like what, like,this whole idea of content
creation and and developingcontent. And and I remember our
first conversation of yousaying, like, you were gonna
start a YouTube channel and,like, the nerves and, like, the

ATC Jeremy (30:15):
Asking you all the questions. How do

Danny (30:16):
you do this? Because Tyler and I, like, we talked
about that, like, a bunch. LikeYeah. We're putting ourselves
out there. Like, people aregonna critique.
People are gonna, like, judge.People are gonna say bullshit
about what we're doing, but wethought and we believe, like, we
have this idea that as long as 1person is stoked, 1 person, 1
person's life has changed,That's all that matters. Doesn't

(30:37):
matter after that. Doesn'tmatter. You've reached 1 single
person, and you actually, like,video your shit.
You video. You talk. You, like,do these rides that I'm like
Yeah. Holy shit. What what whatwhat did you decide?
Like, what caused you whatcaused you to want to do some
content? So Be famous this year?

ATC Jeremy (31:00):
It was honestly, it started from Instagram. So,
like, I'm always doing all theserides like you see, and it was
just Instagram before that I wasposting it. You know? And I'd
had just have people, justrandom followers and stuff reach
out, and and I don't have a lotof followers. People just, like,
wanted to see more.
You know? That's that place isso cool. You know? I kinda wanna
see more. And and to do a longform video, I would have to use,

(31:20):
you know, a platform likeYouTube.
Sure. Never done any videoediting before. The most I've
ever done is, like, an Instagramreel. So I was yeah. I had my
iPhone.

Danny (31:29):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (31:29):
And that's kinda where I where I started. I
barely just started using thecomputer Wow. In these, like,
last few videos.

Danny (31:36):
Do do you do you have the idea in your mind? And then do
you, do you put the idea out toother people, or is it just your
ideas, just your vision on thesevideos? Is it just you?

ATC Jeremy (31:48):
It's just me. Wow. Yeah. It's just me. I did have a
subscriber ask for a reviewvideo, on some handlebars, and I
if you watch that 1, I was justso out of place on it just
because I don't know.
It just didn't feel didn't feellike me. Didn't feel authentic,
I guess. I don't know. Like,when I get something in the mail
for my bike, I get superexcited.

Danny (32:07):
Yeah. I remember when you had the brake pads.

ATC Jeremy (32:09):
Yeah. That video

Danny (32:10):
was so sick.

ATC Jeremy (32:11):
You know, when I go on these rides, I really love
it, but I also wanna make sureand and what it's been hard it's
hard too because, like, wheneveryou make a video, you have to
make it watchable. Right? So itcan't be the just you sitting on
a satellite. Right? It it can'tbe an hour long, you know, for
what I'm doing anyway.

Danny (32:27):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (32:28):
And there has to be kind of a story to it, I feel
like. And so since I starteddoing it, but I don't wanna take
away from the fun I'm having.This is secondary to to
motorcycling and the fun I'mhaving. Right. So I don't want
it to get in the way of myselfhaving fun or people that I'm
with having fun.
Sure. You know, sticking camerasin their faces or whatever.
Yeah.

Danny (32:46):
And it's slightly different than Tyler and I
because Tyler and I are, like,talking about, just thoughts
that we have or that we'veprocessed or that we've, helped
men go through. And 1

ATC Jeremy (32:57):
of the

Danny (32:57):
things, like, I remember, like, talking to you about was,
like, who cares what, like, whocares? Like, who just put
yourself do do what you think iscool. Whatever you think is
cool, you'll be excited about.If you maybe the handlebars
thing is, like, you're just notstoked on, like, you're not
stoked on

ATC Jeremy (33:12):
it. Yeah.

Tyler (33:13):
Yeah. Or maybe they were shitty handlebars.

ATC Jeremy (33:17):
Great. They're great, but they're not what I
what I wanted.

Danny (33:21):
Yeah. So you don't I don't wanna hurt this dude's
feelings, so you don't wannasay, no. These things are a
piece of

ATC Jeremy (33:26):
shit. But, I mean, even I, like, tagged it or
whatever, and he was like, oh,thanks for doing that. He's like
because I I put I was like, youknow, I kinda was in the video
saying that was back and forthbetween these, and he's like,
that's exactly where I was. Youknow? So it felt good to reach
out to, you know, a subscriber.
So it it felt good to have thatkinda, you know, that kinda
connection there too. Yeah. Thatwas cool. Connection. But like

(33:47):
you said, dude, there is a lotof people out there, and just
random people, who wanna benegative.
The good thing about platformsis the more people comment, the
more visibility it gives.

Danny (34:00):
Ad team.

ATC Jeremy (34:00):
And it gives a chance to other people who
actually, you know, genuinelywanna see mountains.

Tyler (34:05):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (34:06):
How should people reach out to me that have never
seen mountains? So I'm in therechopping up a video that has
this cool scenery Sure.

Tyler (34:11):
Because

ATC Jeremy (34:11):
I think it's boring to watch because I live here.
Yeah.

Tyler (34:14):
Yeah. Yeah. These

ATC Jeremy (34:14):
people are like, wow. That's amazing. Look how
big those mountains are.

Danny (34:18):
Yeah. Yeah. Tyler and I talk about that a lot, like,
that we see this every day. Sosometimes we get jaded in the
fact that, like, we live here,you know, and so, like, we see
this every day, so we're notRight. Sometimes we're not,
like, stoked, but then othertimes we come out and we're
like, dude, look what we livein.
Right? And so there was acomment, what the guy didn't
like what you do in something.Like, what the comment that was

(34:42):
on the last video that that wasthe negative 1 that was just a
couple videos ago, do youremember that? He was not happy
about oh, what the heck did youdo? I can't remember exactly
what

ATC Jeremy (34:53):
it was. Having a beer.

Danny (34:54):
Oh, that's what it was. Yeah. Yeah. And drinking and
driving. And and and then, like,all these people jumped on there
and

ATC Jeremy (35:00):
Yeah. And they kinda stood up for me.

Danny (35:01):
And they start doing these things. Yeah. But in as a
man, like, you could be like,hey, dude. We could figure this
out together if you want to, andyou could take offense to, like,
all those things. But you arecreating content for them to
judge you anyways.

ATC Jeremy (35:19):
Exactly.

Danny (35:19):
Right?

ATC Jeremy (35:20):
So you have to if you're gonna do this, you have
to be willing to take the goodwith the bad. And I think for
me, the the best approach hasbeen a positive approach. Sure.
And for instance, there's 1 guy.I remember posting a video.
I was really excited my my dinerthat I always have rebuilt.
That's my when the my wife gotme the motorcycle my wife got
me. He said, that's a reallyugly bike. And I said I said,

(35:40):
hey, man. Everybody has theiropinion.
What do you ride? You know? Andhe said, the bike he rode. And I
was like, oh, that's a beautifulbike, man. What do you like to
do?
Like, where do you like to ride?You know? And then it became
this conversation. He's like, Itook back that comment. I said,
sorry about that.
You know? Right. And it was Ididn't need to take that. Yeah.
I didn't need it need to dothat.
You know what I mean? But justbecause he doesn't like that
bike, I don't need to takeoffense to it. Yeah. Not
everybody's gonna likeeverything. Yeah.

(36:02):
That's fine.

Danny (36:03):
Well and, like, being stoked for another man is not
normal.

ATC Jeremy (36:06):
No.

Danny (36:06):
It's you're not built, like, to be like, man, you look
good today. Man, I love ahaircut.

Tyler (36:11):
Like, you say that kind of a

Danny (36:12):
thing, and you some dude is all like, what? I gave me no
compliment.

Tyler (36:16):
Yeah. That goes back to our tribal our tribal roots.
Right? Like, we we do we do havea tribe. Right?
And you just you just broughthim into your fold. Maybe he's
at arm's length.

ATC Jeremy (36:25):
Yeah. But And maybe that's them trying to find their
tribe. Find as you

Tyler (36:29):
Right? Yeah. Yeah. Like, they they they've gotta push
against it a little bit to beinvited. It's because they're
not they're not comfortable

ATC Jeremy (36:35):
Sure.

Tyler (36:36):
Being in touch with that side of themselves. Or Do you

ATC Jeremy (36:38):
guys think that do you guys think that sometimes
people put that negativity outthere first just to see, like

Tyler (36:43):
To test the waters? Yeah. I think a lot of people respond
from ego. Right? I think whenyou respond, it it goes to what
I would consider emotionalmaturity.
Right. Right? Like, howemotionally mature are you? If
they're if they're a commentlike that is somebody that,
like, that to me seems like achild. Right?
Like, why cut somebody elsedown? You really have to grow
up. I I think you're absolutelyright. I think those people are

(37:07):
just kind of big big childrenthat that have never really
grown up grown up.

Danny (37:12):
And and, also, it's so easy to see me behind a computer
and say some shit.

ATC Jeremy (37:19):
Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah.

Tyler (37:20):
He's some keyboard warrior. I think for sure. Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (37:23):
I think Eat your foot inside your

Danny (37:25):
face.

Tyler (37:25):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just munching on there. Yeah.
They're pork rinds or whatever.

ATC Jeremy (37:33):
I I mean and I

Tyler (37:34):
and I say that because that's that was that's my
experience. Right? Well, I knowwhen I'm like, if I'm cutting
somebody else down, that'sreally coming from ego. Yeah.
Even if I really don't like thatperson.
Yeah. Even if I really don'tlike that person, it's 99%
coming from ego. Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (37:48):
And I just try to take this positive approach,
man, and negativity reallybrings me down. When people are
negative, I I actually hadsomebody out. I was friends with
it, but they were just always sonegative. And I had to, like,
just space myself away from thembecause that just being around
that, it just brings me down.

Danny (38:03):
Yeah. Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (38:03):
You know? And I just I hate that, though.

Danny (38:07):
Well, and we we can also be our own worst enemies. Like
like, we could already be, like,feeling those uncomfortable
feelings about ourselves. Yeah.And they could be reinforcing
those things. Right?
And, you know, we personally,like, try to encourage men to
to, like, be stoked for eachother, like, to be, like,

(38:27):
encouraging. Like, man, you'redoing this sick. I wanna be a
part of it. Like, how can I be apart of it? How can how can
Tyler and I be a part of

ATC Jeremy (38:36):
your your dream?

Tyler (38:37):
This is so cool.

ATC Jeremy (38:38):
He's He's

Danny (38:39):
Yeah. And so, like, we want that kinda stoke, and and,
I I just don't know if, like,it's if it's normal or, like,
people see it as healthy, likebecause because we have a lot of
personalities at work and

ATC Jeremy (38:51):
Yeah.

Danny (38:52):
And and people, like, see you doing your thing. And are
they encouraging? Are theydiscouraging? Is it this it
doesn't matter to you.

ATC Jeremy (39:00):
I don't. Honestly, I I'm having so much fun. Yeah. I
do. I don't even care.
Yeah. You know? They sometimesthey'll say my YouTube name,
like, in a way that maybe isthey're trying to be funny about
it. And I'm just like, yeah. I IYeah.

Danny (39:13):
Yeah, dude.

ATC Jeremy (39:14):
You know, I'm I'm having fun. I'm learning a new
skill. I never knew how to videoedit. I'm learning a new skill,
which is super fun to me, man. II felt like, you know, I kinda
got to a place where, you know,especially at work, where I'm
just, like, you know, just inthe same spot.
And I wanna learn something new.I wanna do more or experience.

Tyler (39:32):
Get out of that comfort zone.

ATC Jeremy (39:33):
Exactly. And it's hard. You know? When you guys
see these really good videosthat people are putting out
online, your guys' videos lookamazing. That's not just play
the camera and send it out.
That takes a lot of time and alot of skill, a lot of effort,
and dedication.

Tyler (39:49):
Yeah. You wish it was easier.

ATC Jeremy (39:51):
Yeah. We're just gonna find it. Yeah. I thought I
was gonna turn on a GoPro andput it on YouTube.

Danny (39:55):
Yeah. No. We're lucky we had Tyler, dude. Tyler, like, is
And we've we've

Tyler (39:59):
had help from we've had help. We've had help from Stevie
j. We've had help from, youknow, from our community that
we've we've asked. We askedabout lighting. We've asked
about rec I mean, I've met withpeople that other podcast host,
and we're we're primarily apodcast first platform.
Like, the ViewTube is, like,that's just kinda secondary to
everything else we're doing.

Danny (40:17):
Because we want people to see our beautiful faces.

ATC Jeremy (40:19):
We do. I like that. Right?

Tyler (40:23):
But, yeah, I mean, I I think that's that's incredibly
bold to be able

ATC Jeremy (40:27):
to just,

Tyler (40:28):
you know, charge out there. And and I I encourage
more people to do it. LikeAgree. What an incredible world
we live in where you can getmicratized content of something
that you're into.

Danny (40:38):
Yeah. That's so stoked on.

Tyler (40:39):
Back in the day, it was like magazines.

Danny (40:41):
Yeah.

Tyler (40:42):
Right? Like, magazines, and you got the web the web. And
and, you know, websites are coolbecause they can be updated
quicker, but then now you'regetting, like, actual content.

Danny (40:51):
Yeah.

Tyler (40:51):
Like, you can get actual content from from people you
like.

Danny (40:54):
Yeah.

Tyler (40:55):
You you you sign up. And I watch the stuff that my kids
watch, and I'm, like, sometimesso irritated by it. But at the
same time, I'm, like, thesepeople have really figured it
out.

Danny (41:04):
Yeah.

Tyler (41:04):
Right? Like, they figured it out. And some of it's
gimmicky. Right? Like, there'scontent creators out there that
are that are not creating from aplace of authenticity.
They're creating content for forfor money, and I'm like,
whatever. That's their that'stheir gig.

Danny (41:17):
Like Yeah.

Tyler (41:18):
You know, someday, maybe we'll be the mister beast.

ATC Jeremy (41:21):
So, he's Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (41:23):
He's the goal. Right?

Tyler (41:24):
40 plus community. Yeah.

Danny (41:26):
Yeah. But well and and, honestly, like, that's that's
kind of why, like, I was stokedto have you on here. And, like,
Tyler and I had talked about,like, insh like, really making
sure that we, like, always,like, collaborate with you
because, 1, encouraging peopleto step out of their comfort
zone. 2, it really doesn'tmatter. Like, Tyler said, like,

(41:46):
it does not matter.
If you are excited about it,it's going to make me excited
about it. I'm going to beexcited about it. Right?

Tyler (41:53):
Right?

Danny (41:53):
And because we all put ourselves out there and because,
like, somebody could make a shitcomment, it's like, whatever,
man. Like, it's cool. I I likeall of it.

ATC Jeremy (42:04):
Yeah. Don't yeah. You can't let that stuff get you
down, man. And, hey, you knowwhat? Thank you for the view.
Because him watching that videoor her watching that video, it
gives somebody else a chancebecause it'll show it on
somebody else that watchessimilar stuff that that person
does. You know, it'll showsomebody else and give somebody
else the opportunity to seesomething that might be helpful,
and especially what you guys do.And what you guys do is saying

(42:24):
the hard things. Right?

Danny (42:25):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (42:26):
Us, men, we deal with a lot, and we feel a lot,
but we don't ever talk about it.Right. You know? And you guys
are definitely saying the hardthings. And I've shared a lot of
you guys' stuff, and, you know,I've had people reach out to me,
who are these guys?
Who are these lost?

Danny (42:37):
Appreciate that.

ATC Jeremy (42:38):
You know? Yeah. So

Danny (42:39):
Yeah. We're we're, Tyler and I always just saying, like,
we're always just gettingstarted, like, and we'll always
have that mentality of, like,just learning, never, like,
forever a white belt foreverwhite belts, which in our just
our lingo means, like, we'renever gonna be, like, experts at
anything, but we'll always learnand we'll always grow and we'll
always, like, find, ability tomove forward and find progress.

(43:02):
Right? And as men, that's wheremen get stuck.

ATC Jeremy (43:06):
Yeah.

Danny (43:06):
That forward progress is where a man gets into his own
head, gets into his own self. Hestarts to look at porn, starts
to look at other women, look atother things that are make gonna
give him that dopamine dump ofquick fix followed by shit. I
feel like shit still. I stillfeel like shit. Why do I feel

(43:26):
like shit still?
Yeah. And and I think that'swhat, like

ATC Jeremy (43:30):
There's no clarity. Yeah. Yeah, dude. For sure.

Danny (43:33):
Yeah. For sure.

ATC Jeremy (43:34):
I'm basically. Yeah.

Tyler (43:37):
I think you can. I mean, we we've we've we've covered
we've covered boys and sextwice.

ATC Jeremy (43:41):
We've covered, Yeah.

Tyler (43:42):
I mean, yeah, I think that's it's it's true. Like
right? You need like, in intoday's corporate world, right,
it's so much more difficult toclimb the ladder. There's Sure.
There's so many different, youyou know, people vying for so
many fewer positions.
Right? Like, I always used toget really frustrated when my ex

(44:03):
would be like, well, justmanifest more money. And I'm
like, you're just, like, makemore money. Like, oh, 0, that's
all I've gotta do is just It's

Danny (44:11):
just that simple.

Tyler (44:12):
Just just make more money. Right? Just make more
money. Okay. Thanks.

ATC Jeremy (44:18):
You know what I mean? Yeah.

Tyler (44:19):
But, like, you know, you get you get creative with it,
and you can, you know,eventually, like, this for me
now, this is not about money.This isn't about monetarily, you
know, making money. It's aboutit's about sharing a message and
and what that message actuallymeans. Like, getting men to,
like, consider who they are,what they're doing to man in,

(44:41):
to, have the hard questions, toto raise the next generation of
sons. Sure.
Or we can get rid and and we canget past this this me too
bullshit. Like Oh, so You know?And, like, not all men are are
toxic masculine. Not all men areare are, like, raging
testosterone driven, like,monsters. Right?

ATC Jeremy (45:03):
Agreed.

Tyler (45:03):
I I've yet to meet somebody that I would say is on
a toxic masculinity, like,scale. It's it's definitely a
scale. And and to me, when I seeit, I see toxic masculinity the
same as I see feminism. Right?It's just 2 sides of the same
coin.
It's really just toxicindividualism, which comes
ultimately comes from your ego.

ATC Jeremy (45:22):
Agreed.

Tyler (45:22):
Right? I need to protect myself. Whatever I identify as,
I have to protect that. And whenI can let go of that ego, then I
can recognize the opposite andembrace the opposite and enjoy
the opposite, whatever it is.

Danny (45:35):
Oh, man. That's that's that's deep, Tyler. Deep. That's
deep. It is it really, reallyis.
It really is, you know,something inside of you that's
that's causing those feelingsthat's getting in the way of,
like, finding the beauty. I'llI'll I'll go back to last
episode and the the peanutbutter falcon reference

ATC Jeremy (45:56):
of Right.

Danny (45:57):
Are we gonna die? Yeah. Are we gonna die?

Tyler (45:59):
Of course, we are.

ATC Jeremy (45:59):
The folks we are.

Tyler (46:00):
Of course, we are.

Danny (46:00):
But are they gonna tell killer fucking

Tyler (46:02):
stories? Great stories.

ATC Jeremy (46:03):
Stories. Yeah.

Danny (46:03):
You know? Yeah.

Tyler (46:04):
That's what you want. Yeah. Right? You want them to
have stories, and you want toleave a legacy, and you you, you
know, you want to give that toyour children, your sons.

Danny (46:12):
Right? Agreed. And to other men.

Tyler (46:14):
Right? Other men.

Danny (46:15):
Because other men are gonna struggle with those things
and, like, because of, like, theconfidence and the ability that
we all have as men, like, do wesee ourselves who we really are,
and we're comfortable with whowe are. Right. We know we're
working on things. We know thatwe're struggling on things, and
and we're pushing each other tobe better. Right?
So we're we're building thesethings. But other men may not

(46:37):
have that same quorum or forumwhere you can be like, dude, I'm
so excited for you. Andgenuinely mean that to another
man. Genuinely, dude, you lookgood today. Yeah.
And genuinely mean that toanother dude and not be, like,
taken as weird for saying thatkinda shit.

ATC Jeremy (46:54):
Right?

Danny (46:56):
So kudos, man. I'm honestly like, we're really
stoked for you and and,Appreciate it. What, what you
got. So so right now, like, wewere talking about this during
the break, but, man, Tyler isgoing through a fast right now.
Yeah.
And I am so stoked for him aboutit because we were talking about
it because I fasted and I've cutweight. Tyler's fasted and cut

(47:19):
weight for fighting. Yeah. Andhave you ever done any of that
fasting stuff? Like, have youever done anything like that?

ATC Jeremy (47:24):
I did with the chicken broth.

Tyler (47:26):
Okay. Bone broth. Okay.

ATC Jeremy (47:27):
Anyway, not he's doing the water.

Danny (47:31):
Yeah. This dude is insane.

ATC Jeremy (47:33):
I mean, you III

Tyler (47:34):
don't think there's anything wrong with the chicken
broth. Like, I to be honest, ifI don't break my fast tomorrow
and I decide, hey. I made it 3days, let's do 4 or 5.

Danny (47:43):
What hour are you on right now?

Tyler (47:44):
I'm on 43 hour I'm 44 hours.

Danny (47:48):
So sick. Yeah. What a what a testament to your mental
fortitude. Right?

ATC Jeremy (47:52):
I

Danny (47:52):
Which I think is what what what pushes you. Right?

Tyler (47:55):
III to me, I needed to like, I just kind of have felt
in the funk lately. Like Takecontrol. Yeah. Not, like, 1 kind
of working from home. Like,working from home is, like,
terrible for me.
I feel so isolated. I mean, IIIbasically wait to go to jujitsu
or I wait to, like, get like, Ihave something to do. Right? And

(48:16):
so I'm like, my I noticed myrelationship with food, like,
changing. Like, I'm eating to,like, get a dopamine hit or
something.
And so I was just like, I needto I need to get back to me and,
like, change my relationshipwith food.

Danny (48:31):
Sure. When you were lifting heavy, Jeremy, did you,
did you have to like, did youhave some of that yo yo stuff of
eating a lot, not eating a lot,eating a lot, not eating a lot?

ATC Jeremy (48:42):
Definitely. Always trying to find, like, what
balance of macronutrients workedfor my body. Wow. You know?
Especially when I was gettingreally big.
But then it whenever you startlifting weights, there's a
saying, it's like you becomeforever small.

Danny (48:58):
Because you see yourself, like, not big enough.

ATC Jeremy (49:00):
You never see the size you are. Right? Unless,
obviously, you're next tosomebody else, but you're always
lonely looking at yourself.

Danny (49:06):
Sure.

ATC Jeremy (49:06):
So you just see the same person.

Danny (49:08):
We see the same thing in jiu jitsu. You can't see your
own progress.

ATC Jeremy (49:11):
Yeah. Yeah. You know? So you're always you know,
you start trying to get moresize. You're too fat.
Start trying to lean up. Tooskinny. You know? And you just
it's like this cons constantcycle. That's how I felt anyway
when I was when I was in until Igot injured.

Danny (49:26):
Yeah. And then not so much lifting anymore.

ATC Jeremy (49:29):
Not so much. Or if I do, I just don't I don't push
myself.

Danny (49:31):
Yeah. Yeah. But you

ATC Jeremy (49:33):
That was, like, a realization for myself, like,
alright, man. You're over 30.You need to kick back. That's
Yeah. Yeah.
Back's hurting. Knees arehurting. Real muscles.

Danny (49:44):
Well, honestly, like, I I was stoked on Tyler. Like, Tyler
told us that a little bit whilewe were on break. And and big
shout out to to what you'redoing, Tyler, because, it
encourages me and it encouragesmen to, like, always to push
yourself to those limits to findwhat is the next limit. Because
there's always gonna be a limitthat you're gonna have to push

(50:05):
yourself past

ATC Jeremy (50:06):
Mhmm.

Danny (50:06):
And find, things that will motivate you to to do those
hard things. Because doing ahard thing is doing that stuff
is going to only make you betterin the long run. Right?

Tyler (50:19):
Yeah. And and to me, this, like, this connection back
to myself as I'm, you know, kindof going through food, not
without food and meditating alot and, like, just kind of
sitting sitting you know, at atthe same time, I've, like, tried
to turn off my device. I'vetried to, like, not watch TV.
It's it's it's shown me someother things. Like, it's

(50:40):
illuminated some other thingswhere I'm like, okay.
Cool. As soon as I conclude thisfast, I now have direct insight
onto what I want to do, where Iwant to go next, what I want to
be doing next. It's just it'sjust been interesting.

Danny (50:56):
Yeah. Fasting and cutting weight is, is is is such a mind
mind monster.

ATC Jeremy (51:04):
Hey. Your body's just telling you. Yeah.

Tyler (51:07):
Right.

ATC Jeremy (51:08):
What are you doing? Yeah.

Danny (51:09):
Yeah. It's it's a it is it is really, really hard, and
it and it definitely teaches youa lot about yourself. So, man,
stoked for you for doing that,honestly.

Tyler (51:18):
Problem is we don't have we haven't been in the sauna
lately. I know, dude. It's beenweeks. Weeks. Weeks since we've
had a good sauna session.

Danny (51:27):
For sure. And we lost our we we lost our our our sauna
spot Yeah. And haven't found thequite recovery of it. But, yeah,
is, is definitely needs to beback on our Yeah. On our side.

ATC Jeremy (51:40):
Well, that

Tyler (51:41):
was a huge part of huge part of my routine and
definitely, like, helped with mymy mental health just sitting
that hot like, pushing yourselfin that hot and that heat.

ATC Jeremy (51:51):
For sure. Do you guys when you guys go in there,
do you guys go in theretogether?

Danny (51:54):
Mhmm.

ATC Jeremy (51:54):
And Do you guys have good conversations, like,
strong?

Danny (51:56):
Woah. Do you

ATC Jeremy (51:57):
feel like the conversations are deeper when
you guys are both

Danny (51:59):
going to test? This development, this whole thing
developed in Asana.

Tyler (52:03):
And started in Asana.

Danny (52:04):
In Asana.

ATC Jeremy (52:04):
There you go.

Danny (52:05):
And and, like, the our friendship and our and our and
and the need for our friendshipdeveloped in the sauna for sure.

Tyler (52:13):
We've we've had some we've had some serious
conversations in the sauna,though. Like, I think the sauna
is a bit of a sacred spot.

Danny (52:20):
So I'm in currently in talks with a person to do a
sweat lodge ceremony for men andto bring people into a sweat
lodge. And, I've only heardstories of sweat lodge, but it's
sauna times a million. Saunatimes a million because you will
break, you will falter, you willneed each other, you will depend

(52:41):
on each other, you will needpeople there to get you through
what you go through. Jesus.Because a sweat lodge is, like,
cooking yourself.
And it's it's and and you startto hallucinate. You start to
have some some things thathappen, and you need people to
get you through it. So there'speople in there that will get
you through what you're goingthrough. And that's, like, it's

(53:02):
legit, and I've heard about it.And there's a guy in Heber that
I've heard about, and I knowsomebody that knows him.
And today, we talked to him.

ATC Jeremy (53:09):
I said,

Danny (53:09):
hey. Let's do it. Get with them.

Tyler (53:11):
I wanna do it.

Danny (53:12):
And I wanna get some guys that that I think would be,
like, stoked on it, and andyou're 1 of those guys, Jeremy.

ATC Jeremy (53:18):
I'm 1

Danny (53:18):
of you to come.

Tyler (53:19):
They do that at Heroes and Horses, a big portion of the
and I sat next to the guy when Iwent to that event last October.
They do that at part of theHeroes and Horses, specifically
sweat lodge. Right?

ATC Jeremy (53:29):
So sick.

Tyler (53:29):
And it's that that tradition of sauna has been
around For a while. It's andit's it's regardless of kind of
what community you've come from,like, finish its sauna in, you
know, Russia.

Danny (53:41):
America.

ATC Jeremy (53:42):
It it

Tyler (53:42):
it sweat lodge. Like, in Greece, it's a Roman bath, a
Russian bath. Like, it's pretty,like like, it's around. It's,
like, not like, it's universal.It's not like a onetime thing.
So

ATC Jeremy (53:55):
to me, that's, like, that symbolizes something.
There's Yeah.

Tyler (53:56):
Being symbolic behind that. Yeah.

Danny (53:58):
We gotta So what what's coming up in the next what so in
the next couple of weeks, whatyou got? You got Kansas City.

ATC Jeremy (54:04):
Yeah. So Kansas City and then maybe Milwaukee again.
I don't know. I have tickets forit, and I might try to find a
way to give those away. Oh.
You know, but I don't know ifI'm gonna go that anyways. After
that, my wife and I arrived inCanada. No.

Tyler (54:20):
Yeah. So we doing Banff? Yeah.

Danny (54:22):
Oh, nice. On the bike?

ATC Jeremy (54:24):
On the bike.

Danny (54:24):
No way. Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (54:25):
So

Danny (54:25):
What's the mileage from here to to to that you guys will
do?

ATC Jeremy (54:29):
I don't even remember, honestly.

Danny (54:31):
Over a 1000.

ATC Jeremy (54:33):
Oh, total. Yeah. It'll be over a 1000. Not in 1
spot, especially because I haveher on the bike. Okay.
So we'll do a lot shorter. Ithink the longest thing we're
gonna do is we're gonna go fromhere to Whitefish. Oh. So
that'll be the 1st day just toget the big part out of the way.
And then after that, it's justgonna be short days.
You know?

Tyler (54:47):
Dude, that's a solid 12 of 14 hour day. Yeah.

Danny (54:50):
So so Whitefish? To

Tyler (54:51):
Whitefish? Yeah.

Danny (54:52):
To Whitefish? Yeah. Whitefish is a legit ride. Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (54:54):
Yeah. And I've even thought I might leave the day
before and just get a few hoursdown the road.

Danny (55:00):
Sure.

ATC Jeremy (55:00):
You know, because I just don't wanna put her through
it.

Danny (55:02):
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (55:03):
But I I want her to enjoy the experience. Sure. If
we're just muscled throughMiles, she's she's not gonna
enjoy the experience.

Danny (55:08):
And you told

ATC Jeremy (55:09):
She's gonna be you know, she's not gonna be having
fun.

Danny (55:11):
And you told me today, no no Sturgis because then you guys
are going to Banff and

ATC Jeremy (55:15):
all that? Yeah. So, no Sturgis this year. It's like
the first year I haven't gonesince Harlow died, my dog. So,
yeah, not doing surges becausethis trip is during the time
that surges will be happening.
So there's Canada, and thenafter Canada is 4 Corners
Motorcycle Rally, and I lovethat place, man. The $1, 000,
000 highway Mhmm. Is on the map.

Danny (55:34):
For the greatest. Sick.

ATC Jeremy (55:36):
You don't do so many times. Talked about that 1.

Danny (55:37):
Yeah. This guy.

Tyler (55:38):
My grandparents lived down in Durango. Really? Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (55:41):
It's an amazing I love that mainstream. Yeah,
dude. The Durango Diner.

Danny (55:44):
Oh, yeah.

ATC Jeremy (55:45):
Oh, yeah. I mean,

Tyler (55:46):
we used to grow up down there. We used to grow up going
down there for

Danny (55:49):
Durango. Durango is on my list of places where we may end
up. Yeah. For sure. For sure.
Durango is on our list of placeswhere we may end up. Cool, man.
Well, we have man, we are 1 weekaway from, summer camp.

ATC Jeremy (56:06):
Summer camp?

Danny (56:06):
Just over 10 days. Sorry. 10 days from summer camp, and,
it is coming together. It it'sit's coming together. It's gonna
be a fun time.
We have fights on Friday. Lotsof instruction on Saturday. Lots
of instruction on Sunday. Andthen I leave to Montana for 10
days. Misty and I are doing thesame thing.
We're riding in this. We'retaking our bus to Montana for 10

(56:29):
days. Yeah. We're we're excited.We're nervous.
We're, like, Misty was, like,are you sure this is a good
idea? And I was like, no. I'mnot. But it's it's gonna it's
gonna put some, like, fear intome, and and I think that I need
that. I think I need the fear,the risk, the the challenge of
driving in this thing.
Like you said, we only can gofor 50 miles an hour, so we're

(56:50):
taking back roads.

ATC Jeremy (56:51):
So you're gonna be going up Beartooth Pass?

Danny (56:53):
Yeah. So, on the way back, we are gonna try to hit
the that Beartooth Pass. We'regonna go up the Gallatin on the
1st day. But, yeah, it's gonnabe a good time. We're stoked.
What do you got going on, Tyler?

Tyler (57:06):
Man, summer camp, few more weeks of summer with the
kids. I think I'm gonna take mykids out to, Reno, Tahoe in the
the Nice. Least, basically.Yeah. In the Bronco, we got the
rooftop tent on.
So yeah. I mean, we're justgonna kinda play it by ear, and
I got a hotel room for for camp.So You did? Yeah.

Danny (57:27):
Sick. From v?

Tyler (57:28):
I didn't get v's because I didn't want the suite. I plus,
we're only doing it Fridaynight.

Danny (57:32):
Oh, you're taking the kids?

Tyler (57:33):
I'm taking the kids so they can come hang at the pool.
They wanna see the super fights.Yeah. So I'll get them into the
super fights and, yeah, let themkinda just run run run feral
feral kids summer up in ParkCity.

Danny (57:47):
We're staying up there as well, so we'll be out there on
Friday Saturday. But cool, man.Well, Jeremy, honestly, grateful
for your friendship. We'regrateful. Tyler and I, we're
grateful for what you've donefor us and how you've encouraged
Tyler and I and been there forus.
You you've we've been therealong your journey, and so I

(58:07):
feel like you've been therealong our journey, and we're
excited that, we were able tofinally get you up here and and
on the podcast.

ATC Jeremy (58:13):
No. I appreciate it, buddy. And thank you guys keep
doing what you're doing. Keepsaying the thing the hard things
to say. Thank you.
And and being vulnerable.Foreigner okay. You know what
I'm trying to say. We know whatyou're doing. We gotcha.
You know, the episode with thethat you talked about your
brother? Dang. Well, look atthat. Yeah. Just talking about
that right now.
I just got the chills. Yeah.

Tyler (58:32):
Yeah. You

ATC Jeremy (58:33):
know, it's it's really hard to talk about these
things. And you guys, you know,when you guys put it out there,
I think it makes it easier Sure.For everybody else that's
watching. So thank you.

Danny (58:41):
Yeah. We appreciate that. Cool, man. Well, cheers
everybody. We'll see you guys onthe flip side.
And, Sundays, Park City, openmat. You guys wanna come and see
what they're all about. Checkout Jeremy at,

ATC Jeremy (58:55):
ATC Jeremy Rides on YouTube.

Danny (58:57):
Anybody else you wanna give a shout out to?

ATC Jeremy (59:00):
BlackLine Speed Shop.

Danny (59:01):
Yeah, dude. I was gonna say.

ATC Jeremy (59:02):
What's your

Danny (59:03):
BlackLine Speed Shop, we like the we're stoked on those
guys too. Hopefully, we'll, dosome collaboration with those
guys eventually. And, Yeah.Cheers. We're excited.
Yeah.

ATC Jeremy (59:11):
We're good. Take care, guys. See you.