Protect, Provide & Pick Your Battles

In this episode of The Lost Boy Scouts Podcast, Danny returns from an epic trip to Mexico, sharing wild travel stories, unexpected limo rides, and thoughts on making Cabo a second home. Tyler and Danny dive deep into trust—whether in relationships, on the mat, or in everyday life—and how setting boundaries shapes who we become.

They also explore the eerie connections between true crime cases and a controversial book, discuss gut health struggles, and reflect on personal growth through discomfort. Plus, the guys gear up for upcoming jiu-jitsu events, belt tests, and some exciting new developments in their community.

Strap in for a mix of laughs, deep talks, and unfiltered takes on life, training, and keeping your mind sharp in a crazy world.

Episode Transcript

Tyler (00:07):
Welcome back. March.

Danny (00:09):
Wow. Lost Boy Scouts podcast. Here we are.

Tyler (00:11):
Let's do it.

Danny (00:12):
We are on a roll, buddy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The what a
crazy couple weeks for myself.

Tyler (00:20):
Good.

Danny (00:20):
It was fun.

Tyler (00:21):
When did you we gotta get the the download on Mexico. How
was Mexico?

Danny (00:25):
Mexico was the best trip that I've ever been on. Nice.
The best trip that we've everhad.

Tyler (00:31):
And they let you back in the country?

Danny (00:33):
They let me back in. Yeah. So, man, we left on
Thursday, so I think it'sThursday. I mean, my days are so
Yeah. My days are so when I tellyou what I've been doing the
last couple of days, Tyler, andwhat my plan is, you're gonna
shit your pants.

(00:54):
But we left on Thursday morning.Misty and I packed everything
that we could, and she brought abig freaking suitcase because
she was planning planning to buysome souvenirs that she had
planned that she'd wanted to getthere anyways. You know? Yeah.
So she had her idea of what shewas gonna get, so she took an
extra bag that she could packup, which, by the way, we did

(01:16):
pack full of stuff.
And we leave on Thursday, and weget into Mexico. And, man, it's
like the smoothest transition.We get to the airport. We get
onto our plane. We're there.
We're chilling. Misty has somebusiness stuff that she's doing.
It was so awesome. She's on hercomputer. She's looks like this

(01:38):
businesswoman because she's,fully, invested in what she's
doing in her job now.
And it was awesome. We landed,and there's no line. Literally,
no line. We get to Mexico, getto customs, not a single person
in line.

Tyler (01:52):
Wow.

Danny (01:52):
Misty and I go there, and the first thing that I should
have recognized was my passportpicture doesn't have myself with
a big beard. So the lady looksat my passport, and she's like,
you gotta go there because youdon't look like your passport
picture. So we stand in linethere, quickly go through, and
we're waiting. Get our bags. Andwhen you, you know, when you go

(02:16):
through Mexico, you have to gothrough a second set of security
features that they scan yourbag.
Mhmm. They scan my bag, and theygo through the whole thing. They
I mean, they open all of mystuff, and they're going through
everything. And Misty, I loveher so much, but she starts to
get so anxious and so,

Tyler (02:36):
like, oh my

Danny (02:37):
gosh, they're going to they're going to stop you. I
told you not to bring thatstuff. I told you you shouldn't
bring that stuff. And she'syelling at me and I'm like,
that's Same team? Yeah.
You know, same teamwork. It'sokay. And we it was fine. I
mean, it was because I had a,BCAA, container that wasn't

(02:58):
opened. Mhmm.
So that's that's why they werelooking at that stuff. You know,
it's powder. Yeah. So they wannamake sure I'm not bringing drugs
and stuff in there. I mean,that's not where I'd put it.
You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'dput it in my god pocket if

Tyler (03:07):
I think,

Danny (03:08):
you know, my human body.

Tyler (03:09):
Prison wallet.

Danny (03:09):
My prison wallet. Yeah. You know? Like, that's not where
I putting it, buddy. I know therules.
I've watched movies. Yeah. Youknow? Like, I'm not I'm
keestering that shit.Keestering.
Oh. So we go out, and, dude, itwas insane. So I had forgotten
you know, we had we had plannedto have myself, Misty, my

(03:33):
brother, his wife, my sister,and her husband. At the last
second, my brother was not ableto go, but we had but we were
like, at that point, you shouldjust get a limo because it's
cheaper to go to the hotel.Well, we I forgot that.
So we get there, and there's abig sky. There's a guy holding a
sign that says Okanya on there.We're like, what the heck, dude?

(03:55):
And so we go there, and I'mlike, oh, I forgot. We have a
limo.
And they they pull up with thislimo that's pimped. Yeah. And
all the, guys there because theysee my ears, they're like, UFC
fighter, UFC fighter, UFCfighters. They want my
Instagram, and they're gettingall my Instagram stuff. It was
insane.
We get in there on the limo, andthe dude brings a cooler of

(04:19):
beer. And

Tyler (04:21):
Nice.

Danny (04:22):
That started off the weekend or the week. We were
there for eight days. It it wasby far the coolest trip. My
friend Arturo shout out toArturo and his family, and the
Solimar Resort. Bro, they theythey treated us like kings.
I mean, like, he took us outthree or four times with to go

(04:43):
do things. We went to a soccergame, and it's like we're
driving at, like, 09:00 at nightthrough Cabo, and he takes us to
this compound that's gated. Big,huge cement walls, and we're
like, what in the world? WhatChristmas? Walk in there, and
there we are literally the onlyAmericans, and and and my

(05:05):
brother-in-law and Misty, onlywhite people in there.
Everybody speaks Spanish, andthere's a bunch of people in
there, and they're talking tous. They wanna know who we are,
what we're doing. They were sohappy that we were there
watching the game for them. AndYeah. Arturo is playing, and
he's the only one that reallyspeaks

Tyler (05:23):
Yeah.

Danny (05:23):
A little bit of English. His family doesn't speak
English. Oh. And so they're Imean, people are talking to us,
and we're, like, we'reoverwhelmed because it's, like,
the second day. I'm not inSpanish speaking mode.

Tyler (05:35):
Yeah. Right? Yeah.

Danny (05:36):
It takes me a couple days to warm up to Yeah. To get my
mind to because, you know, Ihave to think, translate, speak.
Yeah. I can't just speak. Idon't I have to think about what
I'm gonna say.
Yeah. In my mind, translate itsometimes use Google Translate
to double check what I'm gonnasay Yeah. To get the, phonics,
you know,

Tyler (05:55):
sometimes Phonetically, like yeah.

Danny (05:57):
And, it it was but, you know, dude, the game was cool. I
mean, it was fun. It was therewas there's some, shit talking
amongst each other. Octaro gotall like, he was, like, kinda
got a little him and a good guygot into a little bit of a
shoving match, and, theexperience was insane, Tyler. So

(06:17):
whale watching Yeah.
Oh, wow. Yeah. Is going on.Usually, you can see the wells
pretty good far off thedistance. They were five feet
off the shore, swimming fivefeet off the shore.
These big gray whales, you know,like, thirty, forty, 50 feet.
It's incredible. And they'reswimming five feet off the
shore, literally, like, it feelslike you could touch them.

Tyler (06:39):
That's so incredible.

Danny (06:40):
Then the humpbacks were still there, and they're jumping
around, and they're doing theirthing right off the beach of
where we're staying. We went ona catamaran. Oh, that's cool.
Seen sea turtles, seen whales,seen breaching manta rays. So
manta rays Like a sea cow.

(07:01):
Manta rays are no. Man no. Mantarays are

Tyler (07:03):
like the ray. The ray.

Danny (07:04):
The ray.

Tyler (07:04):
Okay. Yeah.

Danny (07:05):
And, like, the weird fit with the weird face on the
bottom.

Tyler (07:07):
Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (07:08):
They're jumping out of the water. They were jumping,
like, right in front of us.They're jumping out of the
water. Dang. And we were like,and the guy, of course, he's
like, this doesn't reallyhappen.
This is usually over by now,but, yeah, it's happening. And,
I mean, they're just jumping allover the place. That's crazy.
Story after story after story ofjust amazing experiences,
talking, deciding, like, okay.Is this a possibility to live

(07:32):
down there six months or theyear?
You know? I I still think it is.I do think it I do think it's in
my and Misty's cards to be ableto stay there. How? I don't
know.
You know? I mean, she's soinvested in the business that
she's working for right now.Yeah. And, it would be really
hard because she's so she lovesit so much right now. So it'd be

(07:53):
really hard to leave for sixmonths.
You know? Yeah. Yeah. But I I dothink it's in our cards
eventually. I do think that,Arturo and his family are gonna
try to come to Utah

Tyler (08:02):
Oh, wow.

Danny (08:02):
At some point. Cool. And, of course, we'll help them as
much as we can to get them tocome stay with us in Utah, and
they're great. They're I mean,they're amazing. They're he was
telling us story after storyafter story.
He gave me this, if you're onYouTube, you'll be able to see
it, but he gave me this necklacethat's braided. Oh, cool. Every
time I see him and he has oneon, I always tell Misty, like,

(08:24):
man, I'm gonna ask him where hefind where he gets it. Anyways,
what happens is is they go on atrek in Jalisco, Mexico. Like,
the, his family goes on a twoday trek to a church.
And during that, they dopraying, and they do that kind
of stuff, and they pick up thesethese items, these these it's a

(08:49):
it's a it's a it's a Mary, andthen I'm not exactly sure what
this is. I think this is theirsign. He's from a little town in
Jalisco, so I think this istheir sign. Oh, okay. It's like
their crest.
And I was talking to him aboutit, and I was like, man, I I
want one day to grab one. He'slike, I got some extras. He
brought them out, and he broughtout some other trinkets and
stuff, and he was giving them tous. And he was, like, so excited

(09:10):
to talk about his family's farm.He actually invited us to his
family's Oh, cool.
Farm. But it's like I mean, itit it would be scary to me to do
that kind of a thing becauseYeah. You fly to Cabo and then
take a little small plane toJalisco, and then we would
travel to his family's ranch.Oh, interesting. But, I mean,

(09:32):
you know, you hear all thesescary stories, that kind of
thing.
We would be with his family,but, again, it's like, man,
we're you know, you you're sofar outside of your comfort zone
at that point. So I I don'tknow. But the the trip overall,
hands down, amazing. We had sucha good time. Only one night, me
and Matt got into trouble.
And not so much trouble. It'sjust that, you know, we started

(09:54):
drinking tequila at, like, 10:00in the morning time. Right?

Tyler (09:57):
Yeah.

Danny (09:57):
And Misty's like, yeah. I don't remember too much because
and I wake up, and I was like,oh my god. Am I in trouble? And
she's like, no. Not with me,but, you know, your your your
sister got a little mad at you.
And I was like, why? And she'slike, I I mean, I just probably
got a little lippy, and I justwasn't sounding like myself. And
Yeah. Yeah. It was tequilaDanny.
It wasn't

Tyler (10:17):
Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (10:18):
And then she's like, you weren't being mean or anything.
You were just kinda being a jerkthat she you weren't seeing her
sign, which usually I do. Right?Yeah. Yeah.
And so she's like, yeah. Youtook a shot, and then we came
upstairs. It's 05:00 in theafternoon, and I had passed out.
And I passed out at five, wokeup at 07:00 in the morning.

(10:39):
Morning the next day.
I didn't feel like crap becauseit was tequila. You know?

Tyler (10:43):
Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (10:44):
Only one day one morning, we drank a little too much too
late in the night. Yeah. So Iwoke up kinda crappy feeling in
the morning.

Tyler (10:54):
It's nothing like, I don't know. I'm just at an age
where being hungover just

Danny (10:57):
It's not fun.

Tyler (10:58):
It's there's no there's nothing there's nothing good
about it.

Danny (11:01):
Yeah. No bad experiences. Good. Man, I can't tell you
enough, like, how many storylike, I've got so many stories.
Every day was something new thatwas just, like, more exciting
than the the day before.
You know? We'd love love thatfor you. And it was awesome. You
know, Misty and I had a reallygood time. We we came back
really rejuvenated.

(11:23):
I currently have trained everyday since I got back.

Tyler (11:27):
That's awesome.

Danny (11:27):
Every single day. Every day. The only today, I didn't do
an open map, but I've had I'vedone every day. So I did
Thursday, Friday, Saturday,Sunday, Monday. Today's Tuesday.
And my plan is to do Wednesday,Thursday, Friday, and do, eight
or nine days, maybe ten days ina row of Dang. And I've got it,
and I've I've I've I'm, like,pretty excited about, like,

(11:50):
training every day. Good. So,

Tyler (11:53):
Body feels good. Body feels like it.

Danny (11:55):
Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm still banged up from the camp in
a certain Yeah. I've got a groinpool a little bit that I've
gotta be really careful withbecause, like, I was I'm
supposed to be Chris Langle'spartner for the blue belt test.
Yeah. Yeah.
Today, we were doing the whiteto blue review, and, there's a
couple of moves that I was like,oh, I gotta gotta be careful

(12:16):
with that, or maybe I'll justhave Tripp jump in and be his
partner because he's not worriedabout that. Yeah. Yeah, man. You
know, I I can't I can't I can'tbegin to tell you how lucky I am
to have those kind of moments inmy life. You know?
And, you know, I've been talkingabout this mantra that I've been
believing lately of, like, thisis not the best day of my life.

(12:36):
Like Yeah. The best day of mylife is to come yet. This is
just a moment instead of peoplegoing, oh, what's the next bad
thing that's gonna happen to me?What's the next bad thing?
Yeah. Yeah. My mantra has been,what's the next greatest thing
that I'm gonna experience? Andand, that's how that vacation
was. It was like, what's thenext best thing?
Oh my gosh. We're gonnaexperience this. And, I I I'm

(12:56):
I'm really starting to believethat you can manifest things
that Mhmm. Into your life. Youknow?
And and it's really hard in Utahsometimes to be stoked, like
we've talked about when it'sgray.

Tyler (13:09):
Oh, yeah. The weather, the week you were gone, you
missed the perfect week

Danny (13:13):
Bro.

Tyler (13:14):
To be gone.

Danny (13:15):
And then I got home, and it was, like, 50 degrees. And at
the day, it was snowing. It waslike, what the

Tyler (13:19):
heck of your mind. It's been kinda bipolar. But that
week you were gone wasdefinitely, like, we woke up a
Monday. First Monday, you weregone because you left that
Thursday. On Monday, I woke up,forgot it was a holiday.

Danny (13:30):
Oh yeah.

Tyler (13:30):
And I started working. My boss calls me. He's like, you
know, we have the day off.Right. And I was like, oh, we do
dang.
And so I went back to bed and itwas, it was like snowing and
miserable, and I was like, maybeI'll get the snow shoes out. And
then I was like, I don't evenwanna leave the house.

Danny (13:47):
Yeah.

Tyler (13:48):
I've been, I've been struggling with some just, like,
overall gut health. Like, I'venever really paid a lot of
attention to my gut health, butI've been feeling, like, just
just nauseous lately. Really?Like and I can't I haven't
really been able to pinpoint.Like, I've been trying to do
some intermittent fasting,trying to change up my diet,
trying to, like, just get olderand be more wise about what I'm

(14:08):
what I'm eating, what I'meating, how I eat.
And for whatever reason, I'vejust been kinda struggling with
some just some, like,retrograde, like, nausea, like,
just not feeling great.

Danny (14:18):
Gut health is the worst for people, I think.

Tyler (14:21):
Like Yeah.

Danny (14:21):
You know me, I struggle with it every day. Like, I have
to watch what I eat every day.Yeah. I I tried myself, I tried
intermittent fasting, and it wasreally, really bad for me
because I think the doctor toldme that I had built up so much
acid that, like, I had to gothrough a couple months of
trying to get it back undercontrol. Oh, yeah.
Intermittent passing didn't workfor me.

Tyler (14:40):
Yeah. I was intermittent passing. I had, like, horrible
heartburn. Like, all of asudden, I'm like, I don't know.
So getting older sucks.

Danny (14:47):
Yeah. That

Tyler (14:48):
sucks. Getting older sucks. You know? But I did did
quite a bit of training.

Danny (14:52):
Yeah.

Tyler (14:52):
And school has been, you know, just full bore. Yeah. Work
has been full bore.

Danny (15:00):
Did I already ask you if you were to if you were to put
in a timeline of when you'll bewhen you'll have your masters,
when would when will you eventwill if you put it in a
timeline, when could youpotentially have your masters?

Tyler (15:12):
I am hoping that my masters will be complete this
time next year.

Danny (15:16):
Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, wow.

Tyler (15:17):
This time next year.

Danny (15:19):
Yeah. That's

Tyler (15:19):
pretty That doesn't necessarily mean I'll be done
with, like, the clinical, youknow

Danny (15:24):
If you publish and all that. Right?

Tyler (15:25):
Yeah. Yeah. You gotta do you gotta do three thousand
hours of clinical hand holding.And so my hope is is that I can
start that near the end of thesummer

Danny (15:35):
Oh, okay.

Tyler (15:35):
And start getting those hours where I'm because the goal
the ultimate goal is, right, tobecome independently focused.
Right? You have to have asupervising therapist that you
work under for

Danny (15:47):
those Can you do that as you're in class, like, as on the
job training side stuff?

Tyler (15:51):
Yeah. Yeah. You can.

Danny (15:52):
You can.

Tyler (15:53):
Yeah. That's And as soon as I finish the certain if
there's a few certain classes Ineed to finish in order to to
get that to get that to be ableto be prepared to do that
because you also have to startyou start the licensure process
with the state at that time.I've been reading some crazy
stories too. Just some crazystories. Like, Utah has, like,
some crazy, you know, true crimestuff that's that's gone on

(16:17):
lately.

Danny (16:18):
Bro, this shit with this lady that was the podcaster
YouTube lady that

Tyler (16:24):
she Did I sent you did I send you that? Yeah. Or the Ruby
Franke and then the

Danny (16:28):
the That one.

Tyler (16:29):
Ruby Franke is Bro,

Danny (16:30):
that is insane.

Tyler (16:30):
It is really insane.

Danny (16:32):
I read a little bit of a news thing today that I was
like, this bitch is crazy.

Tyler (16:37):
Right.

Danny (16:38):
I mean, I watched, like, a little clip where she's
talking to her kid, and she'slike, you will be happy when I
tell you to be happy. And on thekid's face is like

Tyler (16:46):
Yeah. My

Danny (16:46):
gosh. And you could just see that this kid is beat up.
Oh, yeah. And she had so manyfollowers that were so Dude.
Into what she was saying, and itwas such a fault.
It was so false.

Tyler (16:58):
It was weird. So there's a new Netflix documentary about
Ruby Franke

Danny (17:01):
Hulu.

Tyler (17:02):
On Hulu. Yep. And and Jody Hildebrandt.

Danny (17:06):
Hildebrandt. Yeah.

Tyler (17:07):
Jody Hildebrandt is a therapist who has had lost her
license.

Danny (17:12):
She's the people that put she would put you in the bag and
stuff and, like, rebirth typeshit.

Tyler (17:17):
Yeah. She was also, like, in the Hulu thing, she is like
there's pictures of herpossessed where she's like, And
it's funny because, like, I'mtelling my children, like,
actually, the LDS church has along history of speaking in
tongues.

Danny (17:30):
Yeah.

Tyler (17:30):
Like, from its early foundations, the LDS church is
was really into that. But thisis, like, the demonic possession
is is biblical. Right? There's,so it like, it threw me down
this this path because on theother end of that, I sent you
that podcast, the last podcaston the left. If you're not if
you don't listen to it, it's oneof my favorites.

Danny (17:48):
Funny issue.

Tyler (17:50):
They're covering the they're covering the Chad
Daybell and Oh, that's the oneyou said. Vallow, which is
another Mormon true crime issueup in Rexburg, Idaho

Danny (18:01):
Yeah.

Tyler (18:01):
From a couple years ago.

Danny (18:02):
And they were day she was she lived in Daybreak in Utah,
that lady Yeah. When she lefther husband, I guess, the one
that Yeah.

Tyler (18:08):
And it's messed up. I'm and in very in very, very,
unfortunately, the the the dayBell Vallow, it ended in the the
the tragic death of of Twochildren. Two children and and
some some spouses and,obviously, not not ideal, but I
it it just kinda threw me downthis this wormhole. Like, what
is what connects these two? Andit it turns out that it's a

(18:31):
book.
There's a book, that that waswritten by a notable therapist
here in in Utah.

Danny (18:40):
K.

Tyler (18:40):
That is the common it's the common denominator between
Tim Ballard K. Between JodyHildebrandt and between, Chad
and Lori Daybell. And it'scalled visions of glory. Okay.
Written by Tommy Tom Harrison.

Danny (18:55):
K.

Tyler (18:56):
I didn't know this when I first when I first came to town.
I actually know Tom Harrison'sson.

Danny (19:00):
Okay.

Tyler (19:01):
And they've, like, disavowed him, but what's
interesting is that they havenot the the church itself has
not stepped out and disavowedthis book. Yeah. And and and the
book is not doctrinal, but thereis a from what I'm reading,
like, from what I studied onMormon stories, from what I
listened to, and and and justkinda my own research that,
like, there is there is thistheme of demonic possession of

(19:24):
visions after like, I didn'trealize that, like, what's his
name? Underground Railroad dudewas doing ketamine and having,
like he's he thought he wastalking to to different prophets
and

Danny (19:36):
Oh, really?

Tyler (19:36):
And different angels and stuff like that. This this dude.
And we like, meanwhile, we we'reall watching this movie on this
guy, this Tim Ballard guy.

Danny (19:44):
Yeah. The guy that was the the guy that got into
trouble because he was, like,swinging parties

Tyler (19:49):
at the Yeah.

Danny (19:49):
For the sexual Yeah. Trafficking type

Tyler (19:51):
stuff.

Danny (19:52):
Yeah. Yeah. That dude's a kook

Tyler (19:54):
too. Yeah. He I mean, look at this.

Danny (19:56):
He's awake, wake Yeah.

Tyler (19:58):
Yeah. Yeah. Those guys are kooky. So all three all
three of those major crime, truecrime, Mormon true crime, they
all have they all have the, thiskind of underlying this
underlying, book that they'veall read. It's actually what
Don't

Danny (20:11):
read it, Tyler.

Tyler (20:12):
I don't need

Danny (20:13):
to read it because I

Tyler (20:14):
I don't wanna read it. I just do I don't wanna I don't
wanna read it. Honestly, I Ilistened to John doctor John
DeLynn and his crew at MormonStories. They did a really good
job. They did about a seven hourbreakdown of the book and these
three cases.
And I listened to that, and I'mlike like, that's where that's
where I'm gonna put it.

Danny (20:34):
I've been to a church. I think I've told you this before.
I've been to a church where theystarted speaking in tongues and
people passing out and, like, Iremember, like, two churches,
and I think I've talked aboutthese. Maybe I haven't. Maybe, I
don't know.
I've told so many people thesestories, but I think I think
I've told you these stories,Tyler. I my mom's sisters Mhmm.

(20:58):
They they they both were very,Christian. Right? My we grew up
Catholic, and my mom was havingsome, some questions about the
church.
And so my sisters wanted to myher sisters wanted to take my
mom and her kids to theirchurch. They wanted to show her
the churches, and they wantedto, like, get, you know, show

(21:18):
them show my mom. And my mom waslike, okay. Cool. Well, my mom
was you know, my dad had left,and my mom was

Tyler (21:23):
open minded and Yeah.

Danny (21:24):
Yeah. So we go to Vegas, and we go to this church with my
aunt. We get there, and churchstarts out singing, singing,
singing, and next thing youknow, they start bringing some
snakes out. Oh. And they'rewalking the halls, like, the the

(21:45):
the the the walkways with thesesnakes, and they're, like, doing
this this crazy shit.
Right? And I'm like, what? I'mold enough that that I'm like,
this is I'm laughing. Yeah. Mymom is furious Yeah.
Bro. Yeah. Because my brothersand sisters are little, and they
are crying, and they're, like,scared.

Tyler (22:04):
Scared.

Danny (22:04):
And they a couple people go up to the to the pulpit where
the where the guy is at, andhe's, like, touching their head,
and they fall. And they'reshaking on the ground and all
this shit, dude. And my mom islike she names her she yells at
her sister, and I'm not gonnasay her sister's name. And she
is like, what in the world? Whowhy don't you take us to this?

(22:28):
And she's like, why just thoughtyou would like it? Linda and my
mom's like, no. So we leave. Weleave, and my mom is like, oh my
gosh. I'm gonna have to put mykids in therapy.
And the other time is aroundEaster. We go to this church

(22:49):
with my mom's other sister inArizona, and she's like, yeah.
They're gonna replay they'regonna do a replay of when, Jesus
carries the cross. Mhmm. Andthey're gonna replay that kind
of thing.
It's gonna be nice. It's a kids'program. My my my mom says it's
a kid program. It's gonna benice. The kids will sit up at

(23:10):
the front, and they'll replayit, and they'll talk about it.
It will be good. Dude, theystrap this dude to a cross, and
he walks it. He's got a, he'sgot a, a a thorn crown on his
head. He's bleeding, and theystart whipping the shit out of
him. Whipping the shit out ofhim, bro.

Tyler (23:34):
Actions of the crest

Danny (23:36):
action. Action. We we go my mom is like we go running out
of there, and she's like, Icannot the these things are so
vivid in my mind, but I was oldenough that I thought, oh, that
shit was so funny. That day whenthey were whooping his ass, I
was like, get him. Get him.
Get him. Get him again. Get himagain.

Tyler (23:55):
That's insane. I used to love so, obviously, you know, if
you've listened to podcast for awhile, you know that I grew up
in the LDS church. I served amission, did the whole temple
thing, and, like, like, I've asI've been going through,
obviously, my own therapeuticjourney and, you know, kind of
researching the backstory andhistory on the church, like, I
just realized that, like, forme, doctrinally, God and the

(24:18):
church was never the attachmentfigure that I needed.

Danny (24:21):
Sure.

Tyler (24:21):
What I was drawn to was the community of the people.
Sure. And and because thecommunity was a safe space, and
so that is really what I holdsacred in in my LDS heritage is
the community that kinda helpedraise me up when things at home
weren't necessarily all that allthat.

Danny (24:38):
Always find it somewhere. Right? Yeah. I mean, you can
always go somewhere and findI've told you this before. Like,
in the military, you on Sunday,you know, you you're one one day
up to yourself.
Yep. You've the first thing youhear is go to church because you
get away from Yep. And it alwaysbrings you back to the fact
that, like, it's a community.

Tyler (24:54):
Right into it. Right into a community. And so I I I won't
fault it for that. But, youknow, there are some there's
just so much interesting whenyou go back to, like, early
religions and the time that theLDS church was founded. Like,
can you imagine, like, the holyrollers?
Like, the holy rollers, you sawthat. Like Yeah. I'd love to go
to like, that was my favoritething to do. I would always get

(25:15):
companions that were like theywanted to just go to our
services, and I'm like, we'renot going to our services. We're
going to, like, the Catholicservice, or we're going to,
like, this denominational.
We're just, like, we're justworshiping with these people.
Like, we're just getting in thecommunity. To me, that was,
like, that was how I like to toactually proselyte and and was
just by going. And, I never gotI never got those cool,

Danny (25:38):
like, those cool experiences of snakes. When I
tell you that my mom was mad.Yeah. You know, yeah, yeah, it
was just seeing that dude gethis ass whooped, I was like, oh
my goodness.

Tyler (25:52):
Have you watched the righteous gemstones? No. Oh,
it's on HBO. It is four seasons.They're just about to start
season four.
It is one of the funniest TVshows you can watch on HBO.

Danny (26:04):
Oh, wow.

Tyler (26:04):
Right. It is it's hilarious. Thirty minute
episodes. It's got, WalterGoggins. It's got he's one of
the writers.
It's got, god. What is that guyfrom eastbound and down?

Danny (26:18):
Oh, Kenny Powers guy.

Tyler (26:20):
Kenny Powers guy. Name. Yeah. John Goodman's in it.

Danny (26:23):
Oh, yeah.

Tyler (26:24):
It is just it's just it's a hilarious take on kind of
evangelical religions.

Danny (26:29):
That's awesome.

Tyler (26:30):
And, like, they they own this, like, megachurch. Right?
They own this megachurch, andit's just kinda like

Danny (26:36):
Yeah. It's, you know, like, I have a I have a good
relationship with, with myspiritual my spirituality.
Right? I I know what I believein. I know how I feel about it.
Yeah. I know that, I pray. Iknow that I I make the sign of
the cross when I'm drivingbecause I want I want some sort

(26:58):
of guidance. My boys, both ofthem, are working on their how
they feel about things, youknow, and I always tell them,
yeah, just be, you know, just beopen minded and not close minded
about it. Like because itbecause it doesn't matter to,
like, have something else that'shigher than you, more powerful
than you.
Mhmm. But I was listening toElon Musk today on Joe Rogan,
and he was talking about goingto Mars. And I was like, that's

(27:21):
how religion start, man. He'sgonna go over to Mars, and he's
gonna be some billionaire, andhe's gonna start some religion.
Next thing you know, you'regonna you and I are gonna have
to go to Mars in thirty years,and we're gonna get there.
We're gonna be like, oh, man.First thing you have to do is
get baptized or some weird shit.You know? Yeah. And, that's
it'll be, it'll be interestingtime.

(27:41):
And he said thirty years. Thirtyyears that they figure that
we'll be transporting thecommunity to Mars. Isn't that
crazy?

Tyler (27:50):
That's crazy. You hardly

Danny (27:51):
need six months to get there. Really? Yeah. It's a
little bit more. Six months toget to Mars because of the
travel time.
Dang. Not weird.

Tyler (27:59):
That is so weird.

Danny (28:00):
That dude is a that dude is a monster. Like, that dude is
a weird dude. But sometimes hesays some things that I'm like,
oh, you can't say that. Youcan't you can't if

Tyler (28:10):
you got a touch of the tizzy.

Danny (28:11):
Yeah. It's true. Gotta touch of

Tyler (28:13):
the tizzling.

Danny (28:14):
Yeah. And then other times, it's like, oh, these guys
are just kooks. Yeah. And ourtime right now is just insane.
Right?
Like, you know, like, to be, tobe who we are in this moment
Right. Right. To have to to havethe opinions that we have.

(28:34):
Because yours and I's opinionsand and the way we think is not
very far off from each other.Sometimes we have some, like,
tiny bit of disagreements witheach, but for the most part, we
believe in each other.
We believe in, what we say.Right? But you have
disagreements with people. Yeah.Right?
And you have these things thatyou're like, I don't agree with

(28:56):
you. And if you're not careful,some of your friends could
really, really critique some ofthe things that you say if
you're if you do not align withwhat they say. Right?

Tyler (29:11):
It's gotten so crazy out there. It's gotten, like I don't
know if anybody spent any timeon social media. I just left a
bunch of of groups that I was inon social media because it got
so polarized. So to them. Sotoxic.
Right? And I think we talkedabout this a little bit on the
last episode, but, you know, Iactually had a a female listener

(29:32):
reach out to me and say, likelike, we were having a bit of a
disagreement, and she said, youwant to be met on the map. I
think she listens to thepodcast. I'm like, yes. That is
a that is a common trope weissue to the other men in our
community.
That is an that is a challengeto the men in our community that
disagree that disagree with us.

Danny (29:51):
And it's not like a call of, like, you disagree with me?
Come let's go fight.

Tyler (29:57):
Right.

Danny (29:58):
But but but people and especially listeners could take
that as you being a toxic malepersonality

Tyler (30:06):
Yeah.

Danny (30:07):
Who thinks that that's the way to handle things is to
fight on the mat. That's notwhat we're doing. Right.
Literally, when we say come seeus on the mat, it's probably
just to get more people on themat. Yeah.
Right. And, like but but we havethis agreement that we can do.
We can both smack hands, bumpfists, and now we can go. And
maybe that we've figured it out.Maybe I figured out.

Tyler (30:27):
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Right.

Danny (30:29):
I have relationships at work, you know, sometimes, and
I'm like, you would never talkto me like that

Tyler (30:38):
Yeah.

Danny (30:38):
In any other environment, but because we're at work Right.
And you have this safety net.

Tyler (30:43):
It's interesting. It's such a false sense of safety.

Danny (30:46):
Yeah. It

Tyler (30:46):
is. It really is. Like, I I I love women. Don't get me
wrong. But, like, there seems tobe a lot of projection on men
these days that, like, we'rethese dangerous like, we need to
villainize you villainize one,you villainize them all.
You villainize one. Like, f fuckthe patriarchy. And I'm like,
well, you know that, like, thereis, like, this natural law.

(31:08):
Right? Like, that there if thereis somebody bigger than you, if
there's somebody that that thatis more capable than you and you
have something that they want,strip off all of the the facade
of the modern laws and andprotections that we have.
That person's taking that shit.Right? He's taking For sure.

Danny (31:27):
They're taking

Tyler (31:28):
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if it's me or or,
you know, somebody else. Like,if there's somebody bigger or a
bigger group and that you havesomething

Danny (31:35):
that they want, they will take it. They'll take it. Yeah.
They will take it. I agree withyou.
And you you get this I mean, forsomebody to say to for somebody
to I mean, like like I said, wesay it. Where it's it's it's a
funny thing to say at the end ofthe map because or the end of
the podcast because we enjoy it.

Tyler (31:53):
Right.

Danny (31:54):
But, at the end of the day, like, you will stand on
business. Right? And you willdefend yourself if you have to.
Right? But that's not, like,really what we mean until we
mean it.
And if you give negativefeedback and you give negative
energy, if I walk into somewhereand I'm all I'm doing is staring
at Tyler and I'm staring at you,but I have nothing to say.

(32:17):
Right. Nothing to say, but I'mjust staring at you and you're
like, what? Right? If you takethat tone with somebody and
they're like, oh, Tyler, why areyou so why are you so mean?
Why are you so it's like, no.That's not that's it's just a
reaction. Right? I I sent Mistythis funny thing. It's this,
it's a it's a group of guystalking with one girl.

(32:40):
And some caller calls in, andhe's talking about how when,
Adam and Eve were made. Have youseen this? And he says, where
Adam and Eve is there, and he'slike, oh, we we have this life.
We can do these great things.And and, look, all we have to do
is just spend time with eachother.
We just have to, like, look.Look. We can just enjoy this.
Just you and I. Yeah.
Eve, just you and I. And Evegoes, yeah. That's not enough.

(33:03):
Right? Yeah.
Because because women have thatidea of, like, well, there's
more. What what? There's more.Yeah. And these guys start
laughing, and the girl's sittingthere, and she's like they're
like she's just sitting there,and they're like, you didn't
find that funny?
She goes, no. I was waiting forsomething else to say. It was,
like, literally just showed whatthey were talking about. Like,

(33:24):
you know, I mean, I'm not sayingthat our our we love all of our
listeners.

Tyler (33:30):
Sure.

Danny (33:31):
But if you take wrong what we say Right. It's not
toxic.

Tyler (33:38):
Right.

Danny (33:38):
It just may be a disagreement. It may be.

Tyler (33:40):
Right.

Danny (33:41):
We don't agree. Like, we don't see eye to eye. You can't,
you know, you can't project yourown feelings on me because as a
man, I can't understand whatyou're going through. Like, I
don't know what you're Yeah. Idon't know what you're talking
about.

Tyler (33:55):
Right.

Danny (33:55):
I don't know what you're feeling.

Tyler (33:57):
Right.

Danny (33:57):
And if you're not my wife, I probably don't really
care, honestly.

Tyler (34:02):
Right.

Danny (34:02):
You know? If if you're not my companion or somebody
like, your daughter's a Yeah. Ifit's not somebody that you care
about, you're probably like, Idon't know what you want me to
do. Like, I I can't help you inthis situation.

Tyler (34:11):
Well, I think that's the that's the the the clear
distinction, right, with thewith the feminine. I'm and and
really with with most men, I'mseeking to understand. I want to
understand, right, before I makean assumption. Unless you cross
a line, I and I was watching orreading something, and it's
like, if you have a gun and Ihave a gun, we have we have the

(34:32):
truth. Right?
If I we I have a knife and youhave a knife, then we have, you
know, a negotiation. If I havemy fist and you have your fist,
then we, you know, we we canhave a conversation. But if I
have a gun and you have a knife,then we've got a a a whole
different dynamic.

Danny (34:50):
That's unequal.

Tyler (34:51):
An unequal dynamic that we have to we have to negotiate
through. Right. And and andwe're almost always at that that
that that level. And so whenthis person told me that, like,
hey. You wanna meet on the mat?
That doesn't mean that I'm,like, revved up for
confrontation

Danny (35:07):
all the time. Yeah.

Tyler (35:08):
No. I'm not geared up for confrontation. I am I my
definitely, my my boundaries arein place. Sure. And you can you
can attempt to cross myboundaries.
But personally, for me,boundaries are bridges that that
that build connection. And sowhat I want to do is I want to
seek to understand. I want tosee what is different, but I'm
at a point in my life where yourwords don't mean shit to me.

(35:31):
Right. Your words mean jack shitto me.
I don't care if you've got abillion followers on on
Instagram and millions offollowers on Substack. If you
aren't acting what you arepreaching, if you are not acting
the way that you are speaking, Icould give to Fox.

Danny (35:52):
True.

Tyler (35:53):
True. Your words mean nothing. Show me.

Danny (35:55):
Sure.

Tyler (35:56):
Show me.

Danny (35:57):
Yeah. And I think sometimes, like myself for
myself, like, I I I see theenvironment I'm in. Mhmm. And
maybe I'm not as, like let's sayI'm with my friends who are all
jujitsu players. Right?
We're all, like, happy go luckygolden retrievers Yeah. For the
most part until you're not, andthen you're all hanging out. But

(36:18):
let's say I'm around people whodon't train, who don't have that
mentality of, like, keepingaware of your surroundings, like
professor talks about, likeYeah. Know your surroundings. Do
you walk into a room and and seewhere the exits are at?
Do you see who the crazy lookingperson is? Do you see where the
person talking loud is? Do younotice those things? You know, I

(36:40):
I don't as much as some peoplethat I've been with that I'm
like, this dude is 100% viewingthe room as which person am I
taking out first.

Tyler (36:50):
Yeah.

Danny (36:50):
Right? I don't do that. But in certain circles, I may
not be as willing to, like,actively, aggressively be, like,
posture in my chest. Right?Yeah.
Because it may not be who theyare. They may would be like,
man, made me start barking, andthey're like, Danny, what the
hell are you doing? Right. Whyare you causing this trouble?

(37:10):
And I'm like, I'm not causingthis trouble.
I'm just I'm not I'm making surethere's no trouble happening.

Tyler (37:16):
Well, and see, that's where our our our, like, being
in tune with our emotions.Right? Like, our emotions are
going to tell us. And so that'swhy I I I've not I've always
been very reactive. I've alwaysbeen very reactive.
It's taken a lot of selfdiscipline to become,
nonreactive, more moreresponsive.

Danny (37:37):
Sure.

Tyler (37:38):
And so you have but you have to you have to listen to
what is your what it what arethese emotions telling you? What
are these feelings telling you?Right? They are no different.
Right?
They're just more intricate.They're more detailed. They're
more nuanced pieces ofinformation. Right? And they
they don't define us.
They shouldn't define us, butthey should at least they should

(37:59):
be informing us on how to on howto react. Sure. Right? Like, we
are our brains are wired forsafety. And so if we are feeling
a particular emotion or aparticular feeling, what is that
what is that really tying backto in in in in the root of, you
know, fight, flight, fawn, orfreeze?

Danny (38:17):
Right. Yeah. For sure. And we are not going to respond
the same as everybody else orevery other man, but we're for
sure not gonna respond. Like, wecan't put ourself in that other
Yeah.
Or the other genders roleeither. Like, you can't do that.
I can't personally do that.Like, you know, our our the the

(38:39):
person who was listening, like,I can never understand what what
they're going through. No.
Never. I could never understand.Misty and I have a relationship
that we both know that when eachother starts to get
uncomfortable, we both know thatit's time to, like, help each
other either one exit or, like,calm each other down and get get

(38:59):
those little those littleimbalances that you're starting
to feel off. When we're inMexico, I get very protective.

Tyler (39:07):
Sure.

Danny (39:07):
You know, we're driving around, and, man, I am on high
alert. Right. And I've got thissmoking hot little Yeah.
American who sometimes has zeroclue of her environment because
she's around all these crazyguys who will defend her to the

(39:30):
death on a moment's notice.Yeah.
So what does that give her? Itgives the ability sometimes to
just be, like, oblivious

Tyler (39:36):
To shut off.

Danny (39:37):
To things. Right? But then there's other times when I
noticed that she's very awareYeah. Of her surroundings, and
she knows that she doesn'twanna, like, put me in a
position where I may have todefend her. Yeah.
You know?

Tyler (39:50):
That trust. Like, you what I was gonna say, you you
two have built a trust.

Danny (39:53):
For sure.

Tyler (39:54):
And that that trust has not just been, oh, hey. We're
married, and we automaticallyhave that. Right? No. That trust
has been a incremental,consistent process that you've
built over years.
Right? It's eroded in someplaces, but then it's been
rebuilt stronger. Like, for me,the measure of a good
relationship is the ability torepair and build that trust.
Yeah. Right?

(40:14):
And so when you jump into a newrelationship for me, and I think
that's where I've been hesitantto really jump into
relationships, is that it's beenI've I've without understanding,
I've given people trust whenperhaps they haven't

Danny (40:29):
Oh. Earned it Sure. Sure.

Tyler (40:30):
When they haven't earned it. And and when that trust has
been destroyed, like the goldenretriever that I am, I just
kinda come back and I'm like,okay. He's all good.

Danny (40:40):
Yeah.

Tyler (40:40):
But then, eventually, you know, you hit that golden
retriever enough, and he kindabecomes the snarling dog that

Danny (40:48):
wanna do it.

Tyler (40:48):
He doesn't want I don't wanna do it

Danny (40:49):
anymore. Sure.

Tyler (40:50):
Right? And so once that trust has been betrayed or has
eroded completely, and it's ifit's nonexistent, right, it is
going to be it's going to bedifficult to to to kind of build
on that Sure. You know, to buildthat relationship. Sure.

Danny (41:06):
You know what's funny is, like, to go back to that whole
idea of trusting and, like,relationship. I think we've
talked about this before thatwhen there was a time, like,
when you and I went to thatconcert where we both started to
get a little uncomfortable withthe guys that were, like,
bouncing into us when we were atthe reggae festival. We was
like, supposed to be having funhere, but I'm kind of on edge
here.

Tyler (41:23):
Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (41:24):
Because these guys are like, we weren't drinking as
much as everybody else, andthese dudes are bumping into us.
These guys kept, like, walkingpast us, and I barked at that
kid. Hey. Next time, say excuseme.

Tyler (41:35):
Yeah.

Danny (41:35):
And he kinda looked back at first, and then he realizes,
oh, sorry. Excuse me. And andthen I'm thinking, maybe it's
time to go. Yeah. Both of us atthe same time were like, yeah.
Probably time to go. And we justhave that trust with each other.
Yeah. Like, no. Let's let's justremove ourselves from the
situation.
And like you said, if you've ifyou've betrayed that trust so
many times and then still expectme to respond as I did when we

(42:00):
had the trust, guess what? It'snot there anymore. Yeah. It's
gone. Mhmm.
It's gone. And at some point,like, yeah. Guess what? You When
we say meet me on the mat, itmay not be me like, let's go out
and fight, but it may be like,no. This is a different
negotiation.
We may need to, like, discuss ita different way. Yeah. You can't
talk about it like this, and Idon't get I don't I'm not giving
you permission to talk

Tyler (42:20):
about this.

Danny (42:20):
And when we set boundaries like that, it's just
a boundary. Like, I have myboundaries. You have your
boundaries, and we know that,like, okay. That's where I live.
You know, you're not gonna pushmy boundaries.
I'm not gonna push yours. Butwhen we smack hands and bump
fists, maybe we we negotiate adifferent way. Yeah. You know?
And especially you and I and themen that we train with in our

(42:41):
academy, you know when a dudecomes in grumpy.
Yep. And you go, k. Today, I'mgonna have to kind of, like, be
a little tougher. I'm gonna haveto be a little bit more durable.
Yeah.
I'm gonna have to be a littlebit more like, if I smack hands,
bump this, and this dude goesafter me, I cannot lose my cool.

(43:01):
Yeah. Yeah. And that is a truething. Like, we have that
ability.

Tyler (43:07):
Yeah. We had that last Monday. Pearson came up to me.
He's like, are you okay? Are youokay?
Because I just got I got theabsolute Throttle. I just got
throttled by by, you know, anupper belt.

Danny (43:17):
Yeah.

Tyler (43:18):
And and I don't know necessarily. I'm not in in tune
enough for, like, what what am Idoing to cause this this
behavior? And, actually, Ipulled him aside after, He said,
like, you know, have a plan. Heactually just said, have a plan.
I think he was more frustratedthat, like, I'm trying to make
the round entertaining for thisperson because I don't really
know how to handle the situationwith this upper belt.

(43:38):
Yeah. Like, I also don't wannabe easy. I don't wanna be like,
I wanna make it it's his turn totrain like, his time to train
too. Right? Like, I could betimid or I could be and so I
don't really know how to carrymyself with this person.
He actually gave me some greatadvice. He's like, you don't
have to win. It is going to makeyou tough as fuck, but, like,
have a plan. Like, you know,just try to do a couple things.
Stick to a couple things.

(44:01):
But it's always it's always thesame. It's it it it

Danny (44:05):
yeah. Especially, like, in certain certain training
environments at the academy.Right? Yeah. Like, you're not
saying to somebody, let's gofight on the mat.
Right. No. And I wanna make thatclear.

Tyler (44:18):
Like Right.

Danny (44:18):
We are not saying let's go on the mat. Come to the mat
Sunday. You disagree with me,and let's let's knuckle up. No.
It's it's kind of a facetiousthing.
Like Right. We're joking. We'reteasing a little bit.

Tyler (44:28):
Yes. There's hyperbole.

Danny (44:30):
When we go on the mat and you smack hands and you see
across from you a monster who'sgrumpy, you better have a plan.
Yep. And and also you betterhave some durability inside of
you to be like, hey, man. Thisis just gonna make me tougher. I
do believe in that environment,it has benefited me in the fact

(44:50):
that, like, I don't go looklooking for trouble.
No. I don't. No. I don't golooking for trouble. I don't go
looking for, conflict.
Mm-mm. I do want to sometimes,like, take jabs at people, take
shots at people. I do sometimeswant to make eye ton eye contact

(45:10):
with somebody, and and ensurethat they see that I'm making
eye contact with them, that theyknow that, like, this is not
joking anymore. You know? But,for the most part, I think I've
gotten a little bit better aboutthat, Tyler.
And, during this turmoil andespecially in the next couple of

(45:31):
months of things where, like, mymy opinion and the way that I
align may not agree with certainpeople. Yeah. I just have to
give them grace, and I have tobe kind.

Tyler (45:39):
Absolutely.

Danny (45:40):
And I have to, like, remember that, like, if it's a
good relationship, then we'llget past this. Right. The ideas
that we that we may not agreeon. Right. And if it's not, then
it's okay.
Yeah. The the relationship canmaybe the relationship has
reached its pinnacle and we'llmove on.

Tyler (45:59):
Yeah. I loved I I used to say I had a PhD in talking shit.
I love it. I I really do. It'slike one of my it's I love
chirping.
Yeah. I love I love chirping. Igot in a lot of trouble chirping
on the lacrosse field, and, it'sa different world these days.
Right? Like, it's in acontrolled environment like the
lacrosse, you know, pitch or,like, the the you know, in

(46:21):
wrestling or or even jujitsu.
Like, you know, when you chirpyour friends, when you chirp
your buddies, like, typically,you have built a rapport with
them, and you're playing thesame game. Right? You both are
carrying cons. Right? Butanymore now, you are not sure
when you start chirping thatperson

Danny (46:40):
I agree.

Tyler (46:41):
If you're playing the same game.

Danny (46:42):
And what they're going through in that moment either.

Tyler (46:44):
And and and maybe that is oh, maybe that's what you are
going for. Maybe you don't care.Maybe they've crossed a
boundary, and now you need to,you know, stand on business. But
I think right now more thanever, it's okay to just live and
let live a little bit. Like,just take a step back.
Take a breather.

Danny (47:03):
I do peep I do believe that people use, manipulation in
order to get things that theywant. Right? And if you're not
careful and you don't see themanipulation of what they're
doing, you could end up intosomething that you're not
comfortable in or an environmentthat you're not comfortable in.
And now you've you'vecompromised your boundaries

(47:24):
through their manipulation. Andand that happens a lot with
especially with guys.
Like, man, like, you can see yousee it a lot where, like, a guy
gets manipulated into asituation, and you're like, oh,
man. I could have seen that amile or Yeah. A mile away. But
if I was in the moment, I maynot have seen that. I may have
been in the same situation asyou.

Tyler (47:41):
Right. And and what's really scary is that in in in
today's world, we are suchcreatures of of learning.
Manipulation can can be alearned habit. Sure. Not only
can it be a learned habit, but,like, when you start
disassociating fromdysfunctional behavior, it
becomes normal behavior.
We normalize that behavior, Andthat's why people end up in

(48:04):
therapy, and that's why peopleend up with with, you know,
anger management issues. And so,yeah, I think I think it's a
wildly fascinating world inwhich we live in in, you know,
that we that we can adapt andevolve to all these different
these different things.

Danny (48:24):
Today was the today is the state of the union. Oh,
yeah. The state of the unionaddress. So the next couple of
days at work for me are gonna bepretty pretty crazy with
everything that's going on. Youknow, for for all of our
listeners and all of ourfriends, like, we're not making
challenges.
Yeah. We're not makingchallenges that we're, like,

(48:45):
gonna go and, like, invite somenon training individuals to the
mat just so that we can keep theshit out of them. We're not
going around town looking forfights, driving with each other,
looking for people to fight.Right. No.
That's not what we're doing.We're just it's it's just some

(49:06):
it was it was we thought itwould be really awesome to say
at the end of the at the end ofthe podcast, like, hey. If you
disagree with what we say, comeshake hands, bump this. Let's go
and have Let's go. But moreimportantly, like, we just wanna
get more people on the jujitsu.

Tyler (49:18):
We wanna get we we wanna get and the the thing of it is
is that, like, the people thatare that are I I've always told
people, like, I don't need tofight. If I wanna go fight, I'll
go I'll go roll jujitsu. I getthat out of my system. Time.
Like, if I'm yeah.
It's just out. It's out.

Danny (49:36):
Well, and could you I mean, like, seriously, could you
imagine if somebody knew thatyou train jiu jitsu and they
don't and you you went to gotune them up, their first
instinct would be to to defendthemselves as as much as they as
much as they had to. Right.Especially guy with crazy ears,
crazy look in his eyes.

Tyler (49:55):
Like Right.

Danny (49:55):
I can't tell you how many times, like, I'm talking to
somebody, and their eyes arelooking at my ears like this.
Yeah. And I'm like, okay. Thisperson is 100% sizing the fact
that I have that I look the waythat I look. And and so I
usually, I'm, like, make surethat I'm, like, super calm,
super mellow, super easygoing.

(50:16):
I I notice right away if a dudehas ears, it's like, man, ain't
talking crazy to that guy. Yeah.Yeah. You know, I have no idea.

Tyler (50:21):
No. I know. It's it's it's it's fun.

Danny (50:24):
Don't know if they have, like, a weapon on them. Right.
And, man, I don't want to dealwith that. I would much rather
go home at night, and so, we dotry to live in a a moment of
kindness. Yeah.
You know, we talk about it allthe time. Right? Before we got
on this podcast, we were likeyou know, we had our little our
little moment of, like, where weget together and we talk and we

(50:44):
we help each other out of our ofwhat we're going through, and we
always, like, end with, like,hey, man. We were like, we're
not very far off from each otherjust because we're
compassionate. We arecompassionate men.
Yeah. We are. We have feelings.You can get to my feelings if
you want to try. You can you canfind where I tie my goat with my
feelings.
And Yeah. And if I and if I careabout you, cool. If I don't,

(51:08):
then I'm probably a little upsetat myself that I let you inside
of my boundary. Yep. And youmaybe, tugged at my heartstrings
or my anger strings, and I don'tlike those emotions.
Yeah. But it happens. It it itit's it's okay. Like, you know,
we we are who we are. We arestrong men Mhmm.
Who who who are who are cheeringfor strong men. Yeah. We're

(51:30):
we're not cheering for, like,guys that are just douchebags to
to people or

Tyler (51:36):
Right.

Danny (51:37):
Really, really weak men who prey on people. Like, I'm
not cheering for them. No. Iunderstand that's how that is.

Tyler (51:42):
Right.

Danny (51:42):
I'm not also trying to put myself in the position of a
of a of a female.

Tyler (51:47):
Right.

Danny (51:48):
But I will protect them as much as I can. Like, as much
as I need to, I will protectthem. I will do whatever it
takes to make their life easier.Yeah. You know?
And I know you're the same way.

Tyler (51:57):
Like, the

Danny (51:57):
same way.

Tyler (51:57):
I I I take a I take really bad offense when when
specifically, when when I'vebeen accused by women of even
even indicating violence. Like,I've had I've had an experience
with domestic violence whereI've I've intervened in a
domestic violence situation, andthat person credit me credited

(52:19):
me with with saving her life.And and so, like, I I it it it
to me, I know that when you ifyou are if you are if you are
using that against me, you areabsolutely 100% trying to
manipulate me.

Danny (52:30):
Agreed. I agree with you.

Tyler (52:32):
Yeah. And

Danny (52:32):
I've watched you stick up for people and stick up for your
values and things, and andyou're still working on them.

Tyler (52:38):
Yeah.

Danny (52:38):
And especially, like, as a as a as a divorced man. Yeah.
You know, you have to, like,redraw who you are as a in
society. Right? Yep.
And society doesn't give you aplaybook of how you should live
your life now.

Tyler (52:49):
The scariest thing to be right now is a white man with an
opinion.

Danny (52:53):
I know.

Tyler (52:54):
A man with an opinion, but then I'm gonna add the white
man with an opinion.

Danny (52:57):
Blue light. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Don't shave your head. Yeah. Nothappening. Yeah, dude. This was
fun, man.
Yeah. No pressure. Coming up.

Tyler (53:05):
Oh, man. Spring break. We're heading heading Durango,
Telluride, Ouray. Yeah. Ouray.

Danny (53:13):
Ouray. Ouray. Ouray. Ouray. Ouray.
Ouray. Yep.

Tyler (53:15):
I lived in Colorado. I can barely pronounce it.

Danny (53:19):
Yeah. We're gonna try.

Tyler (53:21):
I'm hoping I might need to bring some bolt cutters.
Okay. Because if it's closed,

Danny (53:25):
We're going. I'm going. Yeah. I remember, like, going to
the base of the Mesa Verdestuff, and you you read all the,
like, you know, little, like,creek runs through there. Yeah.
You're walking on the path, andit's talking about, like, all
the fish and how they caught thefish and I how they got back up
there to the to the top. Youknow? Because the it's because
their dwellings were so far upin the cliffs. Yeah. I remember,

(53:46):
like, being so, like, intriguedby that when I was a kid.
Like, I thought that was thecoolest thing. Well, yeah, it's
gonna be a fun time for youguys.

Tyler (53:53):
You probably went when they'd actually let you, like,
crawl down in them. I remember,like, being able to go in them,
but I've guessed they don't dothat anymore.

Danny (54:02):
Going people go in there and start marking the Marketing
spots because it doesn't stop.Yeah.

Tyler (54:05):
Dude, we're just the worst. Yeah. Yeah. What about
you? What do you got going on?

Danny (54:09):
Braxton comes home Friday.

Tyler (54:11):
That's right. I saw that. So I'm I'm switching for trips
so he can he can

Danny (54:15):
Oh my gosh. Dude, so Have a

Tyler (54:17):
day. Yeah.

Danny (54:18):
So we have not seen him in just about two years. We're
gonna meet Sheena and Braden,which is his, girlfriend and her
son. Their little small familythat they're that they're,
currently doing or currentlyworking on, you know, see where
they're going with their lives.And it'll be the first time that
we meet them. They've neverbeen, he he he keeps reminding

(54:39):
us that that that what we livehow we live is going to surprise
her, so don't be, like, caughtoff guard if she needs a moment
to because on so he comes onFriday.
On Saturday, every one of myfamily member is coming up to
our house to do a party withsome other people coming that
we're that that he invited. And,we're gonna have 30 plus people

(55:02):
in my house. My house is goodsized, but it's not like that
good sized day. Yeah. And it'swintertime.
It's supposed to

Tyler (55:09):
be Weather's not quite yet.

Danny (55:10):
It's not quite. Yeah. We can't go outside. Can't send the
kids outside. But he's excited.
He's they're coming home foreight days. Yeah. I think he's
just excited to show her theopportunity that that they can
have Yeah. When he gets out.Yeah.
She's she's she's never beenover here. I'm really excited to

(55:33):
go. So I'm gonna pick him upfrom the airport. I'm really
excited to see what they see,like, how they look at what we
see every day. We've talkedabout this.
Like, we see this every day.Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, we get
jaded by the fact that, like, wesee temp every day.
Yeah. You you get people to comehere. You're like, look at that.
People go look at that fuckingmountain. You're like, oh, yeah.
Look at that mountain. Yeah. Youknow? And they're like, we see

(55:55):
it every day where it's like welive in this beautiful valley
that we bitch and moan about ofall the Californians and
Arizonans and all these peoplethat come in and ruin it.

Tyler (56:03):
Freaking Oregon.

Danny (56:04):
Yeah. They just ruin it, but we're like you know, I'm I'm
excited to see what they, howthey see it. I think that,
Sheena and Misty are gonna getalong really well, and Sheena's
gonna attach herself to Mistylike most people do. Yeah. And,
I already told Braxton, I don'tthink they're gonna wanna leave.
Yeah. I think that Sheena andBraden are gonna be like, cool.

(56:24):
We'll see you when you comeback.

Tyler (56:26):
When you come back.

Danny (56:27):
We're here. Gonna send our shit.

Tyler (56:28):
Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (56:29):
You know, we're here.

Tyler (56:30):
You know the address.

Danny (56:31):
Yeah. You know where it is. Yeah. See you when we see
you. You go back whenever youwant.
We'll hang out here. I thinkthat, their relationship is
moving along cool good. Braden'sfourteen, I think. He's a
baseball player, so I'm hopingto get with Nick Jackson

Tyler (56:46):
Oh, cool.

Danny (56:47):
Get him to the baseball academy.

Tyler (56:50):
Get some new batting cages that open up here too.

Danny (56:52):
Yeah. So cool.

Tyler (56:53):
Sounds like a good, a good time.

Danny (56:55):
It'd be fun, man. Yeah. I'm excited for you. I'm
excited. I'm, yeah, we have alot of good stuff going on.
Summer camp is coming up. July,I think it's eighteenth,
nineteenth, and twentieth. Don'tmark me on those dates. There's
gonna be super fights on Friday.Should be a big announcement
coming out this week.
In the next couple of days, themain event should come out in
the next couple of days.

Tyler (57:15):
Dang. Okay.

Danny (57:19):
If you are yeah. If you wanna come see, come hang out
with us, look on to myInstagram. You can just can
usually find your way to ParkCity Jiu Jitsu. Anthony, big
shout out to Anthony. He'sopening up his academy this
week.
I heard an open mat on Saturday.That's what he said.

Tyler (57:36):
That's what his that is what the j j. What is it?

Danny (57:42):
It's Tim Jiu Jitsu Club. TJJ. TJJC. See?

Tyler (57:45):
TJJ. I'm I'm special.

Danny (57:48):
So this will come out Friday. We're recording on
Tuesday. This will come outFriday. It'll be the next day.
So on Yeah.

Tyler (57:54):
That's Saturday.

Danny (57:55):
Eighth, I think, is what they said, open mat. And I think
I read on the Internet thatclasses start on Monday for
them, so stoked for Anthony.

Tyler (58:04):
Yeah. Yeah. We got our belt test coming up

Danny (58:06):
this month. Our belt test coming up on March 15. Good luck
to those guys. Grant and Chris.Yeah.
Those guys are those great greatadditions.

Tyler (58:14):
Grant has gotten so good.

Danny (58:15):
Well, that dude is yeah. Yeah. That dude has bought in a
%.

Tyler (58:19):
He's gotten really good.

Danny (58:19):
He told me this week, he's trying to decide how to
convince himself to go mountainbiking knowing that he could be
at jiu jitsu the way that it is.Like, his life is, like, kind of
revolving around jiu jitsu,like, how you do like, how it
happens. Yeah. And so excitedfor them. And, yeah, we we, you

(58:43):
know, just trying to trying togrow the community, trying to
build the community as much aswe can.
Both of us still just pluggingaway at the park. Yeah. Lehigh.
I went down to Lehigh yes no.Monday.
Train with those guys. They'reall getting really, really good.
I know we're gonna have somevisitors in the next couple of
days. Thursday night to thisweek Thursday.

Tyler (59:06):
Pass by that time, Matt?

Danny (59:07):
Yeah. By then. But we're gonna supposed to have some
visitors come in this weekendthat I've trained with that that
are gonna be really fun. So,hopefully, we get a good turnout
for Thursday night. And then,yeah, man.
Life is just plugging along. I'mhappy and stoked. Alright. Yeah,
dude.

Tyler (59:21):
Well, let's get back to it, man.

Danny (59:22):
Yeah.

Tyler (59:22):
So these guys go. Appreciate you checking checking
in. Thanks for another episode.Episode. Appreciate you so much,
buddy.
Glad it's back.

Danny (59:28):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cheers, everybody.