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December 20, 2024 56 mins

In this heartfelt and reflective season finale of The Lost Boy Scouts Podcast, Danny and Tyler take a candid look back at the highs and lows of the past year. From personal growth and challenges to shared victories and unforgettable memories, they recap a year filled with lessons about resilience, manhood, and the power of community.

  • Why flexibility in goal-setting matters and how to handle setbacks.
  • The importance of facing rejection and teaching resilience to the next generation.
  • Navigating tough seasons, like loss and change, while holding on to hope.
  • A behind-the-scenes glimpse into their business ventures, personal milestones, and the challenges of balancing work, passion, and family.
  • The value of meaningful friendships and how to build unshakable connections.

The hosts also share raw and honest reflections about grief, growth, and gratitude—reminding listeners that life’s storms don’t last forever and the sun always finds a way to shine through.

If you're looking for an uplifting, real, and thought-provoking conversation about what it means to live with purpose and persist through life’s challenges, this episode is for you.

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Danny (00:07):
Welcome to the Lost Boy Scouts podcast.

Tyler (00:10):
Last one of the year.

Danny (00:11):
Last one of the year. Crazy, Last one of the year, and
I'm

Tyler (00:15):
not even talking in the microphone. We're professionals
here. We are professionals.Professionals here.

Danny (00:19):
Crazy, I

Tyler (00:20):
can't even believe it.

Danny (00:21):
What episode so we're on at least It's 44. God.

Tyler (00:25):
We should have been around 50, but, you know, this
year, man, we gotta recap theyear a little bit because the
year was did not go as planned.

Danny (00:32):
It did not go as planned.

Tyler (00:33):
Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (00:34):
I'm interested to see what our letters say Yeah. And
what we what we accomplished,what we didn't accomplish, where
where we are in our lives. It'syou know, when you look back at
your life, I think one of thosethings, like, I'm not a I think
we've talked about this before.I'm not a, New Year's resolution

(00:54):
person.

Tyler (00:55):
Right.

Danny (00:55):
Are you?

Tyler (00:56):
I don't like I don't like the term resolutions. Right?
Because resolutions seem soabsolute. Yeah. I do like having
goals.
Right? And I think I like tokeep my goals flexible. Sure.
But I'll be honest. I'm I'm theI'm, like, the master of making
a goal and then, like, being,like, so hard on myself right
on.

Danny (01:14):
Do it.

Tyler (01:14):
If I don't achieve it or if I don't get close, or, like,
I'll think too big, and I won't,like, I won't be able to to to
and so I get really hard onmyself. In fact, it's been a
pretty hard couple of weekssince the last episode.

Danny (01:26):
Yeah. Yeah. You've had some you've had some crazy stuff
going on. Yeah. And mine hasbeen, like, whirlwind.
Yeah. You know, we just thinkingabout what did we talk about
last last podcast? And thenyou're like, gosh, was it that
long ago that we sat down heretalking about, what we had going
on and and it was gonna be,things that we w that we were

(01:51):
looking forward to. Yeah. Right?

Tyler (01:53):
Yeah.

Danny (01:54):
And I can't even think, like, what was the last podcast
about? And I think, like, okay.Is that that I'm not living in
the moment? Is it that I'm nottaking the time to appreciate
what I have right now

Tyler (02:06):
Mhmm.

Danny (02:07):
Right now in this in this moment? And I think for men,
sometimes the future you put,like, all these, like, bells and
whistles on the future. Yeah.Like, this is gonna happen for
me. Yeah.
I know it's gonna happen for me.And then what I think is if it
doesn't happen, then you're likelike you said, you're super hard

Tyler (02:26):
on yourself. Yeah. I think I I mean, at least I'm I'm
that way. I absolutely 100%. IfI don't hit if I don't hit where
I think I should be or if thewhat I'm I'm, I get super
bummed.
I get super bummed about it. Ithink more or less what I've
noticed even this last week isjust the the cyclical style of

(02:46):
my life is not as fulfilling tome as I would want it to be.
Right? Like, I've got a greatjob. I love doing this, but
there's some things about therepetitive nature where I'm
like, okay.
I see that I'm stuck in thispattern, and I know I don't
wanna be in this pattern. I knowthat I'm, like, in some stepping
stones here. So, like, what do Ido? What do I what decisions do

(03:08):
I need to make to kind of breakthe cycle a little bit?

Danny (03:12):
Yeah.

Tyler (03:12):
And, that that for me is just kinda super bummed me out.
I just had to, like to kinda sitin in some some pain and of some
things and just kinda realizethat, like, man, if I could
teach one lesson to my son, if Icould help inoculate him towards
anything, it would be that ofrejection. Yeah. Like, become so

(03:36):
resilient against rejection thatit does not matter

Danny (03:38):
to you,

Tyler (03:39):
and I think you will become a very powerful person.

Danny (03:41):
I believe so too. Yeah. Yeah. I think, like, hearing the
word no

Tyler (03:45):
Yeah.

Danny (03:46):
Or or not accomplishing the task at hand

Tyler (03:52):
Yeah.

Danny (03:52):
Right then. Right then. And having that idea of this is
this is a this may be a failure.This is in my rejection. This is
a a moment of, like, I'm not I'mnot winning.

Tyler (04:06):
Yeah.

Danny (04:06):
I'm not winning right now.

Tyler (04:07):
Right.

Danny (04:08):
And can you be okay with that?

Tyler (04:09):
Right.

Danny (04:10):
Can you sit in silence in that moment and be like, Yeah,
I'm not winning right now. Yeah.It's okay. I'm not winning right
now. Yeah.
But maybe you are. Yeah. Maybethe elasticity of your
well-being or the elasticity ofyour of who you are as a man is
growing.

Tyler (04:30):
Right.

Danny (04:30):
And you're in that. You're getting pressure.

Tyler (04:32):
Yeah. You're

Danny (04:33):
getting cooked on the bottom. Yep. You can't find a
frame. You can't find an out.You know, the clock is ticking
and all you want to do is get toa position of breathable.
Yeah. Can I breathe? Yeah. Can Ifind a defendable spot

Tyler (04:50):
Yep?

Danny (04:50):
To where I can breathe for just a second? And I can
think and I can get past thismoment. Yeah. You know, because
we're not in this fight alone.No.
And you think you are? Yeah. Youthink I'm the only person going
through this? Yeah. Yeah.
No. Nobody else around me isgoing through this.

Tyler (05:09):
Right. Well, you well, your your problems are unique to
you, but you're right. Youabsolutely you'd if you over
personalize it, right, you can,like, it really just becomes
your problem.

Danny (05:16):
Yeah.

Tyler (05:17):
And I and as men, like, one of the things that we know
like, we notice is that we don'twe don't let other people help
us shoulder that burden, or wedon't see the parallels in each
other's stories

Danny (05:28):
Great.

Tyler (05:28):
That kinda help us build. That kinda help us build
together.

Danny (05:31):
Yeah. And more importantly, like we've always
talked about, we are not giventhe tools on how to ask for help
and or see, like, what you'regoing through.

Tyler (05:46):
Right.

Danny (05:46):
And and say, Yeah, me too. Right. Most of the time
we're like fixers. We're like,Oh, Tyler tells me his problem.
Okay.
Danny goes into fixing. Yeah.Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And Tyler tells me his problem.Okay. Danny goes into fixing
mode. Yeah.

Tyler (05:54):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (05:55):
Instead of being like, yeah, man. Me too, Tyler. I'm
feeling bad because I don'twanna get into this, where we're
both telling each other how badwe feel, and then both of us
going, like, well, toughen thefuck up.

Tyler (06:08):
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And I do.
I feel like a lot of times II'll I'll bring things up or
I'll talk things out with my dador I'll, you know, I'll call
somebody, and it is. It's likeI'm am I am I having a bitch
session here? Yeah, dude. And Ithink it's good to, like, get
that stuff out because it helpsyou potentially reframe it, but
at the same time, I alsosometimes I just want you to
listen to me. I don'tnecessarily want your fucking

Danny (06:30):
Yeah.

Tyler (06:30):
You

Danny (06:30):
don't need the feedback or tell me your

Tyler (06:32):
parallel? Yeah. Yeah. Well, not necessarily your
parallel. Like, I probably wouldlove the parallel because then
we can, like, commiseratetogether.
Or the

Danny (06:39):
one upmanships,

Tyler (06:40):
maybe. Or is this the fixing? Like, I don't need you
to fix it. Like, yeah. If if ifI can have somebody just tell me
what steps I need to take everystep of the way, that'd be
great.
But, like, at some point, I justneed to, like, I need to figure
it out on my own. I've gottajust speak through it. I've
gotta talk through it. And

Danny (06:54):
Unless I'm short Yeah. A couple $1,000 and you put that
in my bank account Yeah. ThenI'm happy as fuck.

Tyler (06:59):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
Exactly.

Danny (07:02):
And and so, yeah, the last couple of weeks have been
kind of crazy. Right? Yeah.You've had some things going on.
And and and personally, like, mymy life has been crazy with
wrestling.
Yeah. I'm trying to settle in,trying to become, trying to find
the balance of work, life,happiness. Yeah. And and and

(07:26):
sometimes it means, like, notbeing available to a lot of
things besides wrestling andMisty Yeah. And my my personal
life.
Yeah. Because I work a full timejob.

Tyler (07:38):
You gotta you gotta take care like, that is the measure
of a man. Right? When you canstart taking care of your own
shit. Yeah. Like, that is thatis the progression in the
manhood.
Right? You have to be able totake care of your own shit.

Danny (07:49):
And putting priority on things. Right? Order of
operations on, like, what'swhat's important right now.

Tyler (07:55):
Yeah.

Danny (07:55):
You know? Yeah. I, you know, the year started off with
us fully, fully engaged, havinglots of successes in our
business venture. Yep. We werehaving, like, a lot of meetings.
We were having a lot of thingsgoing on December. I remember,
like, going right about thistime was when we went to our

(08:19):
first business meeting with Markand Jr. Yeah. You know, we sat
down with them at the brewery.Yeah.
Right about this time becausethen we went to close to that,
we went to a duel at Park City,you and I.

Tyler (08:33):
That's right.

Danny (08:33):
Then we went to training.

Tyler (08:34):
That's right.

Danny (08:34):
Which is about a year ago. Yeah. Because I think it
was about, the first home duelof Park City. And we went.

Tyler (08:43):
I do.

Danny (08:43):
I remember that. Did that business meeting. We were fully,
fully invested in that in. Yeah.In our business venture.
Yeah. And we were deep in it,you know, trying to find,
sponsorships. We're trying tofind fundraising, trying to
figure this out, trying tofigure out how you and I can
Building building the business.Building the business plan.

Tyler (09:03):
Talking to banks and

Danny (09:04):
Man, we were fully invested. That first quarter of
the year, we were, like, yeah,100% invested, you know? Yeah.
And I remember thinking backabout that and thinking, like,
what a learning experience wewent through. Yeah.
You know? Yeah. We had so manymeetings. Yeah. So many FaceTime
meetings, so many, we weretalking to, SOAR.

(09:26):
Is that right?

Tyler (09:27):
Yeah. Yeah. The score score score. Mentors. Yeah.
Mentors. Yeah. I

Danny (09:30):
remember she was like, she she was she had the green
screen.

Tyler (09:34):
Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (09:35):
You know, and I remember thinking, like, I can see, like,
her background every once in awhile. Yeah. Yeah. I remember
that and thinking, like, god,that's a it it feels like a
lifetime ago.

Tyler (09:44):
Yeah. It does.

Danny (09:45):
You know, that was December, January.

Tyler (09:49):
I know.

Danny (09:50):
Right up until, you know, right up until life changed.

Tyler (09:55):
Yeah. Right up until

Danny (09:56):
life changed. What do you remember about December and
January?

Tyler (09:59):
Man, I mean, January is obviously just flooded with
Nick. Right? Like, Nick losingNick at the end of January. It's
hard to believe that it's almostbeen a year.

Danny (10:08):
Yeah.

Tyler (10:08):
It's hard to believe that it's almost been a year. Yeah.

Danny (10:11):
It changed our entire

Tyler (10:13):
It past. Literally, it it it did. It did.

Danny (10:18):
How fast life can change in a year?

Tyler (10:20):
Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. I mean, it's it's impossible not
to think about. Definitely.
Yeah. Definitely one of thosethings. And it's not like it's
like, hey, I'm pissed at Nickbecause he what happened
happened. Like, it just it youjust have to adapt. You just
have to adapt.
Yeah. And as as, you know, aslonely and as as sad as it is,

(10:41):
you know, I've I've built reallygreat relationships with my
nephews. I'd like to think thatI have a pretty good
relationship with mysister-in-law. My kids have
built better relationships withtheir cousins. I've reconnected
with family that that I hadkinda lost touch with, due to
other reasons.
And so, like, there's there'strade offs. There's benefits.

(11:01):
There's benefits. And I knowthat, like, as badly as I want
Vessi to take off, like, it'sstill there. It's not it's not a
lost cause.
It may not have gotten thetraction that I wanted to in
that in the year. But weaccomplished some pretty
incredible things with with theproject. And what I learned is I
just need to open my mouth aboutit more. I need to I need to you

(11:23):
know, you need to evangelizethose things that you that you
want to do. And and it's abouttelling I think it's about
telling the right story so thatyou're not, like, giving away
your idea, but that you'reactually able to kinda champion
your idea in a way that thatdraws people into into your
vision so that they'llultimately cut you a check.

Danny (11:41):
I remember, you know, the fact that that we that we had
talked to so many people withabout about our business venture

Tyler (11:50):
Right.

Danny (11:50):
And what our ideas were Mhmm. Without NDAs. Right. You
know, and I don't know what thatis. Yeah.

Tyler (11:55):
Yeah. I

Danny (11:55):
didn't know what an NDA was. And I know there were
people that took our idea andYep. And moved on with it. Yeah.
They were able to move on withit.
They took our idea, and theymoved on with it. And they they
said they said, I know that thisis I know this was your idea. I
appreciate it, but I'm I'm goingto do the same thing. Yeah. And

(12:16):
I was like, wow.
You ballsy motherfucker.

Tyler (12:19):
Yeah. You see Nomadsauna on Instagram today announced
that they're doing a floatingsauna on one of the reservoirs.
I did

Danny (12:26):
see that.

Tyler (12:27):
I was like, dude, great. It's a

Danny (12:28):
great idea. It out.

Tyler (12:29):
It's a great idea. Admittedly, it's a great idea.
It's a

Danny (12:32):
great idea. And you know what? For me, like, I'm always
the kind of guy that's like

Tyler (12:36):
I hope they do well. I hope they do well. Good for

Danny (12:38):
you because, like, what what what it also taught us in
in December, January, andFebruary was it solidified our
friendship, but it alsosolidified the fact that you and
I are family. Yeah. So nothinggets in the way of anything.
Yeah. That that I'll dropanything and everything for you.
Yeah. And vice versa. Yeah.Anything and everything at that

(12:59):
moment. Anything and everything.
Drop everything. Yeah. Dropeverything. Rally regroup. And
you got my full undividedattention, vice versa.
Whenever I need you fullundivided attention. Yep. No, no
questions asked.

Tyler (13:13):
Questions. Yeah.

Danny (13:14):
Nothing. No, no. And I don't know if I have, you know,
very many male relationshipswhere that is the reality of it.

Tyler (13:24):
Yeah.

Danny (13:24):
That it's like, cool. I'm good.

Tyler (13:26):
We're just gonna do this.

Danny (13:27):
We're doing this. We're in this moment. I remember going
to your house with beers.

Tyler (13:35):
Oh, yeah.

Danny (13:36):
With the idea that, okay, tonight we're gonna get drunk.
Yeah. We're going to to to to tomeditate on alcohol if we had
to. Yeah. And getting there andbeing, like, yep.
Not tonight. And hiding all thealcohol.

Tyler (13:51):
Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (13:52):
Yeah. Hiding it all and being, like, nope. Not tonight.

Tyler (13:54):
We we we maybe we medicated prematurely. Yeah. I
think You know,

Danny (13:59):
it was think about it. It was insane.

Tyler (14:03):
It it's just a wild rush of emotions. Right? Like, I'm
sure there are those that canrelate. I think you're
absolutely right. You need aminute where, like, it's so
intense.
You just need to dull it for asecond so you can you can get
through it. It's when you get toa point where you're dulling it

(14:23):
too much. You have to eventuallyyou have to eventually feel
through it. You have to.

Danny (14:28):
We were gonna do a year of sober.

Tyler (14:31):
Yeah. I'm planning on starting again. I'm planning on
starting again.

Danny (14:34):
Good.

Tyler (14:35):
I'm planning on starting again this year.

Danny (14:36):
We were gonna do a year sober. I mean, like, that was
our Q1 was where we were gonnado a year sober.

Tyler (14:41):
Yeah.

Danny (14:42):
You know? And then and then once that l started to fade
off, you start to see springhappening.

Tyler (14:52):
Yep.

Danny (14:53):
You know, we, we were training we were training a
pretty good amount.

Tyler (15:00):
Yeah.

Danny (15:01):
We were we were making a lot of, a lot of a lot of open
mats and a lot of I went toFlorida and you didn't.

Tyler (15:09):
Yep.

Danny (15:10):
And that was, you know, that was, like, dang. We were
all, like, man, Tyler should behere.

Tyler (15:18):
Yeah. It's just it was it was unfortunate because it sucks
to have a trip that's paid forthat you just have to have to
leave. Like, hindsight, Iprobably should have just
wrapped Florida into thebereavement leave that I already
took.

Danny (15:32):
Sure.

Tyler (15:32):
Because I don't think at the end of the year You

Danny (15:34):
had just started that job.

Tyler (15:35):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I started the job in January. I,
like, started the job the weekbefore.
Gosh. You know?

Danny (15:43):
It's funny to look back on the year.

Tyler (15:44):
It is. It is. It's it's almost funny how how much you
forget

Danny (15:49):
It is.

Tyler (15:49):
In that year too. It's like, it's easy to forget. And
like I said, my goal for thisyear was strength, ambition, and
persistence. I think at the endof the at the end of the year, I
could I can put a check mark bythat by that. I still think it's
one of those things that I'dlove for it to be more of a
motto for me, strength,ambition, and persistence.

Danny (16:11):
Spring. What do we do in the spring?

Tyler (16:13):
What do we do in the spring, man? It what did we do
in the spring? We got out inthe, we got out in the, we were
out in the woods. We got out inthe van.

Danny (16:23):
Spring was one of those things where you're like, spring
is one of those times of yearhere.

Tyler (16:27):
Yeah.

Danny (16:28):
Where thaw is happening. Yeah. You know, you're you're
breaking out of your slumber.

Tyler (16:33):
Yeah.

Danny (16:34):
We didn't have a crazy winter, if I remember right.

Tyler (16:37):
Wasn't terrible.

Danny (16:39):
There wasn't there wasn't. I remember thinking, I
still think in the in the springwe were still a lot of focus on
our business, a lot of focus.Yeah. On how we can revamp it
because coming out of theslumber of and coming out of the
whole thing with Nick required alot of, like, refreshing,

(17:04):
regrouping, re reinvigorating.Yeah.
Trying to put some trying to putsome fire into what we were
doing.

Tyler (17:11):
And I had my move as well. That was the other big
thing for me that that I

Danny (17:15):
had to I had

Tyler (17:15):
to move out because the flood.

Danny (17:17):
The flood.

Tyler (17:19):
The,

Danny (17:19):
when I walked over there, I remember you showed the videos
of your, drywall cut up almost 3feet above the wall.

Tyler (17:28):
They're now listing that house. It's for sale.

Danny (17:30):
It is for sale.

Tyler (17:31):
If anyone's got an extra 8 k, 800 k that they wanna throw
down. It was a beautiful house,beautiful old home. But that was
a huge, a huge, huge change forme and my my crew.

Danny (17:45):
I went, that was one of the first times I thought that I
might be interested in coachingwrestling again. Yeah. Because I
went to Vegas. We watched the USOpen. And I thought, man, maybe
maybe getting back into it wouldbe a good a good thing for me.
Maybe, being involved withTristan and them would be a good

(18:05):
would be a good idea for me. AndI went back and forth, you know,
because I love jiu jitsu somuch, and I love being there so
much.

Tyler (18:13):
Well, there's a lot of crossover, and and I would hope
that as you find some stability,you'll be able to find your
passion in both and how to bringboth and how to blend the two
worlds. I mean, who was one ofyour buddies that is down at,
teaches a wrestling class downat,

Danny (18:32):
Yeah, Jared.

Tyler (18:32):
At, at, at, at Unified. Yeah. I mean, I could see total
use for that. Like Yeah. Somelittle bit more stand up, a
little bit more, like, handfighting, how to do that kind of
stuff.

Danny (18:44):
I'll tell you, it opens up my eyes with things today. I
was doing, like, practicing somethings with people, and I was,
like, thinking about blending ofhow this would work in both
environments. And, it itdefinitely helps me in in my
journey, being, like, looking atit from a growing period. Right?

(19:09):
Yeah.
Which is really hard in thewinter here, you know, because
it's like there's no I don'tknow the last time I sat in the
sun.

Tyler (19:16):
I know. That's the worst part about this particular part
of the the the country. ColoradoGrowing up in Colorado, we'd get
the snow. We'd have the sunnydays. Yeah.
I feel like I just get I getmired I get mired in the gray.

Danny (19:30):
Yeah.

Tyler (19:30):
And that is the worst. So you you you stack the gray upon
the fact that I work from homeprimarily. If I don't leave for
training, I don't leave thehouse.

Danny (19:39):
I know. And that's go outside?

Tyler (19:41):
No. It's so weird. No.

Danny (19:44):
You know, when you when in the spring, going back to
that, the spring, you start tosit outside a little bit more
and you start to, like, let thevitamin d hit you a little bit
more. Yeah. And, like, you startto see, changing in the colors
of things.

Tyler (19:57):
Yep. New life. New life. The the the buds. The I always
that's my, like I know spring iscoming when you kinda see the
trees, that little that little alittle spurt of growth.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A little greenthat that pops into the the the
trees, and, you know, it's justaround the corner.

Danny (20:14):
Yeah. It's it's so close. The the the the heat is right
around the corner. Yeah. I don'treally remember too much about
the spring.
I don't remember, like, anythingstanding out to me of, anything
that stands out to me that Ithought, oh, that was a big that
was a big life moment besidesthe move for you. Yeah. And then

(20:35):
summer starts to come around.Yep. We had, summer camp to look
forward to.

Tyler (20:42):
Oh, yeah. Summer camp was epic.

Danny (20:44):
Summer camp to look forward to.

Tyler (20:45):
Mhmm.

Danny (20:46):
And the summer fights. Right? We had the super fights.
Yeah. We had that to lookforward to.
Mhmm. Once May hits for me

Tyler (20:54):
Yeah.

Danny (20:54):
That's like you're like, okay. Here we go. Here comes
summer. And I started to work onmy bus a lot. Yeah.
I started to rip things outbecause I knew that we were
leaving in July. Yeah. So I wastrying to blend summer camp and,
leaving on our road trip, and Iwas working my ass off. Yeah. I

(21:15):
don't feel like I've settledsince.
Right. You know? Yeah. Yeah.That's true.

Tyler (21:20):
Cause you did you, what you took off the Sunday after

Danny (21:22):
camp on? Sunday after camp and once camp hit like,
man, that was insane because ifyou remember training leading up
to summer camp got superintense.

Tyler (21:34):
Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (21:35):
Anthony Howlett. Yeah. Jack's all those dudes trip.
Yeah. All those guys that allthose people that were fighting
got really, really intense.

Tyler (21:47):
Yeah.

Danny (21:47):
And we were you and I, especially, were traveling a
lot. Being training partners,you were doing a lot of stand up
with Anthony.

Tyler (21:55):
Yeah. God, the the man still scares me. Well, I don't
think he ever will not. I it'sit is my that is yeah. I love
it.
I love it. I love that he'spatient with me. Super grateful
that he's patient with me. AndI, you know, I've actually
gotten to a point where I dofeel safe. I mean, I know he
could be it could not be safereal quick, but, like, for the

(22:15):
most part Yeah.
It is it's it's safe. Right?Yeah. He gets him a workout.

Danny (22:20):
So New members of the academy, that's about the time
that Grant

Tyler (22:24):
Oh, yeah.

Danny (22:25):
And Marcus.

Tyler (22:26):
Yeah. Well, they because they were both at summer camp.
They had started they probablystarted in the spring.

Danny (22:31):
We did the, beach.

Tyler (22:34):
Oh, yeah. The paddle boarding?

Danny (22:35):
The paddle board party.

Tyler (22:36):
Yeah. That was my nephew's first time camping.

Danny (22:38):
That's right.

Tyler (22:39):
First time camping for them.

Danny (22:41):
We pulled the bus right down on the beach. Mhmm. I had a
I had a gas leak going to thebeach that day.

Tyler (22:48):
Oh, yeah.

Danny (22:49):
And I was like, what in the world? We got there. And
that was, like, one of thosetimes where those new members of
the academy started to becomefamily members

Tyler (22:56):
Yeah.

Danny (22:57):
Of the academy. Yeah. Right?

Tyler (22:59):
Yeah. Professor's band playing out there.

Danny (23:01):
Professor's band playing.

Tyler (23:02):
They've just gotten they've just gotten they just
continue to get better.

Danny (23:06):
When did we go to tribal seats?

Tyler (23:09):
When was that? Was that early fall or was that in the
spring? When was that?

Danny (23:15):
I think it was I think it because we met Jeremy. That was
when you met Jeremy.

Tyler (23:18):
It was before the Jeremy episode. Yeah. It

Danny (23:21):
wasn't before the Jeremy episode. I think

Tyler (23:22):
it was before his episode where he came up.

Danny (23:24):
Yeah. We went to Park City, met Yeah. Went to Tribal
Seeds Yeah. At the in Park City.Yep.
You start to remember, like, allthese memories start to flood
in, and you think, like, youjust Oh, yeah. When was that?
Yeah. Right? Yeah.
When was that? There was snow.There there might have been
snow.

Tyler (23:40):
I still remember it was a bit chilly. I I wanna say it was
a still a bit chilly up in ParkCity.

Danny (23:46):
But it was April or May?

Tyler (23:47):
Had to have been.

Danny (23:48):
Because then we did then we started to take the bus out
to the river.

Tyler (23:53):
Yep.

Danny (23:54):
And hang out by the river with a couple with with Jeremy.

Tyler (23:57):
Yep. We did, what, 3 episodes?

Danny (23:59):
Three episodes.

Tyler (24:00):
Four episodes, maybe? Yep. By the bus?

Danny (24:04):
Montana. I went to Montana.

Tyler (24:05):
You did the Montana trip?

Danny (24:06):
It was amazing. I cut my foot.

Tyler (24:08):
And stabbed your foot.

Danny (24:09):
Right with a knife. You let's see. You went to did you
went to Nick's wake?

Tyler (24:19):
Lots of lots of trips back and forth to Colorado. I
think I did 3 trips to Colorado4 trips to Colorado last year.

Danny (24:26):
Mhmm.

Tyler (24:26):
I might have time I may do one more.

Danny (24:29):
Really?

Tyler (24:29):
Since I don't have the kids for Christmas, There is,
maybe a an opportunity where Ispontaneously show up and
surprise the nephews. Nice. So,

Danny (24:38):
And your mom?

Tyler (24:39):
My mom my mom and I are talking about how to how to
surprise them, so Nice. Itwouldn't be too big of a
surprise for her, but she'slike, can I fly you out? And I'm
like, okay. I'm working a ton atthe rink. Just I gotta keep busy
in order to Yeah.
To, you know, not not go insane.

Danny (24:56):
Yeah. You you these memories start to flood in and,
like, when did it happen? Yeah.Right? And, then let's see.
Then you go in, then you startto fall.

Tyler (25:07):
Yep.

Danny (25:07):
Right? When was your first trip down to Saint George
for a company?

Tyler (25:14):
Oh, that would have

Danny (25:15):
been in January. That would have been in January?

Tyler (25:17):
That would have been in January. Yeah. That was the week
before Nick.

Danny (25:22):
Oh.

Tyler (25:22):
Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So it was the week before Nick. Then I
had Nick.
Then I had the flood. Then Imoved, you know? And so it was,
it was like

Danny (25:32):
That's insane.

Tyler (25:34):
Q1 was pretty intense. And so I think for me, you know,
quarter 2, quarter 3 were allabout, okay, how do I, how do I
regain some homeostasis here?How do I, you know, retool what
it is I want to accomplish? Whatdo I wanna do? I had my daughter
living with me all summer.

(25:55):
That's right.

Danny (25:56):
Bren was home. I forgot about that. Driving down to to
Orem

Tyler (26:01):
Orem for work.

Danny (26:02):
That's right.

Tyler (26:03):
And so I felt like a full time father.

Danny (26:08):
So

Tyler (26:08):
I and and so and not that I'll ever complain about that,
but I did kind of I did I didput a little

Danny (26:14):
bit more effort into being, like,

Tyler (26:16):
you know, the father and not really, you know, didn't
really date, didn't reallytravel on myself. That'll
probably start shifting, Ithink. This year, I've I've
gotta I've gotta change somethings in that in that realm.
Let them let them be anexperience and yeah.

Danny (26:36):
Did, so I I got me and Tripp both got promoted.

Tyler (26:40):
You got promoted to purple belt. That was.

Danny (26:42):
I got promoted to Brown and Brown. I'm sorry. Purple.

Tyler (26:45):
That's right. And that was in the spring. The spring.

Danny (26:47):
That was in March.

Tyler (26:49):
March.

Danny (26:50):
Or I think I think that's about March timeframe.

Tyler (26:53):
Yeah. Because we do what? We usually do them in the spring
and then Yep. The the the fall.

Danny (26:58):
It was it was right leading up to, the super fights.

Tyler (27:03):
There was.

Danny (27:07):
I've heard some crazy things about some people in, the
jujitsu. We've lost some membersof our academy that you think,
man, did that did that happen?You know, the, like, Yeah. Are
those people not a part of ouracademy anymore? And I always
think, like, it's like a deathin the family almost sometimes.
Like, if you're not, you know,you like, man, where did that

(27:29):
guy? Where did that person go?Right. When who's the redhead
blue belt that quit in ParkCity? The tall kid.
What's his name?

Tyler (27:40):
Parker.

Danny (27:40):
Parker. Yeah. He's gone. Yeah. He got his blue belt and
he's gone.
Yeah. You know, those kind ofthings when you think about,
like, when you go through thethe, the the Rolodex of academy
members

Tyler (27:55):
Yeah.

Danny (27:55):
It's like, where did that person go?

Tyler (27:57):
Right.

Danny (27:58):
You know? And it does feel like a little bit of, man,
why did they go? What whathappened? What changed in their
life that they didn't need us?

Tyler (28:06):
Yeah. They decided they didn't need they didn't need
this anymore. Yeah. It's hard tosay. I don't know.
I don't know. I've never beennot motivated not to quit.

Danny (28:16):
Right. Jackson. God, this is black belt.

Tyler (28:21):
Black belt. Super fight. Yep. That was pretty incredible.
Preston getting his black belt.

Danny (28:26):
And got his black belt. Nick got a stripe.

Tyler (28:30):
Nick got a stripe. Chris Parker. He he made a promotion,
right? He made the jump fromfrom blue to purple.

Danny (28:37):
Yeah. There's a lot of color down in Lehigh.

Tyler (28:41):
A lot of color down in Lehigh.

Danny (28:43):
They need to figure out how to keep their people. Yeah.
They do. Suckers.

Tyler (28:47):
Be nice to each other.

Danny (28:48):
Be nice to each other.

Tyler (28:49):
Yeah.

Danny (28:49):
Don't lose each other.

Tyler (28:51):
Yeah.

Danny (28:51):
I was talking to Corey yesterday, and he did not make
it a full year of sobriety.

Tyler (29:00):
He didn't.

Danny (29:01):
He did not.

Tyler (29:02):
He made it a damn long time.

Danny (29:03):
He made it to November. But, you know, my experience
after my year of sobriety, mylife with alcohol completely
changed. Yeah. Completelychanged. There are moments where
I, you know, I've looked backand I was like, man, did I get
that drunk?
Yeah. Us at the bar. Yeah. Acouple of weekends ago. Yeah.

(29:26):
Yeah. I, like, got was I did didwe drink that much? I don't
remember. But Right. But we wewent to the bar with Stevie j.

Tyler (29:34):
Yeah.

Danny (29:34):
We met all those people. We were talking. And next thing
I know, I was like, man, am Ithat? Man? I am lit.
Yeah. You know? Yes. Myrelationship with alcohol has
changed, though, since my years.Right.
He said that it was once thefirst taste of alcohol, he was
like, Yep. That's what I'mmissing. Yeah. I love it.

Tyler (29:54):
I there will be some moments where it'll be really
hard not to indulge. I there isnothing greater than in the
summertime after a train.

Danny (30:05):
No.

Tyler (30:05):
A cold Pacifica.

Danny (30:06):
A cold Pacifica.

Tyler (30:07):
You just there's nothing. Nothing greater. Yeah. I will
never like, there was a couplenights where I was so smashed
during Nick's thing.

Danny (30:17):
Oh, yeah.

Tyler (30:18):
There was the there was a poker game, a poker ch poker
charity that

Danny (30:21):
Oh, yeah,

Tyler (30:21):
yeah, yeah. It's one of the only times I've ever, I
think I've ever vomited. Forlike, d, during a session of
like, we, we were drinking. Theywere just, it was just pouring.
It was like, get Tyler drunk.
And, I puked so hard. That I'mlike, I will never be like,
yeah, that was a good idea. Itdefinitely made me want to

(30:45):
change my relationship withalcohol. Right? Like, I don't, I
don't feel the need to ever bethat drunk.
Even even the the even beingdrunk the other weekend was,
like, that crept up on us. Idon't even know how.

Danny (31:00):
It well, it did yeah. I don't I remember thinking, like,
oh, I'm good, and then I'm,like, I'm not that good.

Tyler (31:05):
I'm not that good.

Danny (31:06):
Yeah. But we were with each other, so we were probably,
like, mellow.

Tyler (31:10):
Right.

Danny (31:10):
And the fact that, like, not wild. Right. Not tequila
rage.

Tyler (31:16):
No. No. And we had, like, we had drivers and we had

Danny (31:19):
We did.

Tyler (31:20):
You know what I mean? Like, that it just kind of crept
up on me. I think it was justthe. Yeah. I don't know if I
didn't eat that well or.

Danny (31:27):
Yeah, we probably didn't.

Tyler (31:29):
Whatever. Because it was we didn't drink anything harder
than than than beer.

Danny (31:34):
Did we podcast that night and then go drink it?

Tyler (31:37):
Yeah. We did.

Danny (31:38):
I think we did. Right?

Tyler (31:39):
Yeah. We did. This is the last episode.

Danny (31:41):
That's right.

Tyler (31:42):
Last episode. Gosh. We had 2 2 during the the podcast,
maybe 2 after, and then it'sit's it's it is. It's like it
just crept up on us. It justcreeps up on you.
And

Danny (31:52):
And we you know, partying is fun.

Tyler (31:55):
You gotta you gotta

Danny (31:56):
you Let Liz is fun.

Tyler (31:57):
You gotta celebrate. Like I said, you gotta numb. You
gotta, like, it's it is arelationship.

Danny (32:01):
Yeah. I

Tyler (32:01):
think you gotta be aware. You gotta have a a a tremendous
amount amount of self awareness.Right? I think my desire to be
sober at the beginning of theyear is not because I I have an
inappropriate relationship withalcohol. It's because I have
specific fitness goals that Ihave yet to achieve.
And I know that like taking, youknow, this taking soda, taking

(32:26):
sugar out of my diet is what Ineed to do to achieve those.

Danny (32:30):
Sure.

Tyler (32:30):
Those, those fitness goals. And I just have to do it.
Yeah. I have to be disciplinedenough to do it this year. Yeah.
And there's no there's you know,I've been telling myself that
for years, but at the same time,like, I'm not gonna get mad at
myself of of, you know, fordoing it.

Danny (32:44):
Yeah. I'll tell you this last quarter has been wild for
me because I started coachingwrestling.

Tyler (32:52):
You did wrestling?

Danny (32:54):
But I was able to see Zach Bryan in concert.

Tyler (32:58):
That's right. Well, we we gotta go back before even you
talk about Zach Bryan. You atthe beginning of the year, you
had the whole Hawaii thing.

Danny (33:05):
Oh, yeah.

Tyler (33:06):
You had the whole I forgot about that.

Danny (33:08):
Yeah. That's right. I put in for the job in Hawaii. Yeah.
Yeah.
I forgot about that. Yeah. Andit's still open.

Tyler (33:16):
It's still open.

Danny (33:16):
It's still open, and it still shows me in the queue
potentially hired there.

Tyler (33:21):
You might you might just wake up one day and and he's off
to hold.

Danny (33:24):
I'll tell you this. My my days of air traffic are
numbered. Yeah. I'm in I'm lessthan 12 months away from
retirement

Tyler (33:35):
Right.

Danny (33:35):
From air traffic. When I want if I want, I could be done
in less than 12 months. So Idon't know if that's in my life
anymore. I don't I don't believethat God I believe that God has
a path for you.

Tyler (33:46):
Right.

Danny (33:46):
And I believe that God puts what he wants in front of
you that he wants you to thetasks the tasks at hand. Yeah.
And I believe that God will giveyou really, really hard tasks
and things that, like, aretasks, but do you take them?
Yeah. Right?

(34:07):
That Hawaii thing after talkingto people and and and realizing
that probably not for me Yeah.Is how it went.

Tyler (34:15):
Yeah. It

Danny (34:15):
wasn't for me. Right. You know, so that's insane to me to
think that that was on thetable. Yeah. You know, when I go
back and listen to the episodes,I'll have, like, moments where
I'll remember.
Oh, yeah. I was really excitedabout that. Yeah. And then we
also were going to sell ourhouse. Yeah.
And move into a trailer. Yeah.We had that going on. Mhmm. We

(34:38):
thought we almost put our houseup for sale again.
And then Misty, like, was like,I don't think I can do it. Yeah.
I'm good. I don't think I can doit. So I paused it.
We paused it. We paused it for amoment.

Tyler (34:49):
Mhmm.

Danny (34:50):
Then I started coaching wrestling. And being around
those kids has been amazing.Yeah. You know, it's it's been
so fulfilling for me.

Tyler (34:57):
It definitely makes you younger. Yes. Makes you know I'm
younger.

Danny (35:00):
And it's awesome. And you

Tyler (35:02):
finally got to see Zach Brown.

Danny (35:04):
Oh my gosh, dude. But you know Life changing.

Tyler (35:06):
It really is. When did you go Friday or Saturday?

Danny (35:09):
We went Saturday night. Okay. So we knew a little bit
about what was gonna happen.

Tyler (35:13):
Right.

Danny (35:14):
We got there and I I was so mad at Misty for the seats
that we had because we were sohigh. I coached wrestling for
most of the day on Saturday.

Tyler (35:25):
Okay.

Danny (35:26):
And then Tripp and I left. We hauled us to Heber, got
there and all day long. HappyZach Brian Day. Happy Zach Brian

Tyler (35:35):
Day to Misty. Happy Zach

Danny (35:36):
Brian Day. We got home. She was a little sick because
she had just got home fromDisneyland. Then she got home
from Disney on Thursday. She hadFriday to just relax.
Saturday, Zach Brian Day. And wewere like, Happy Zach Brian Day
from 6 in the morning till,like, we were going to.

Tyler (35:56):
Yeah.

Danny (35:57):
And then we, I started to, like, have a couple beers,
get my mind right. You know, wewere listening to Zach Brian all
day, and then we drove down,parked, found parking, and, me,
trip, Cole, Misty, we were,like, just excited. Yeah. Get to

(36:18):
our seats and it's like, oh myGod. We are in the nosebleeds.

Tyler (36:21):
The there's a buzz. The Delta Center's pretty, pretty
good. It's easy to get in andout of.

Danny (36:26):
In and out. It was it was packed with people. Yeah. But
our seats were so high. I was somad at Misty because we had such
better seats Yeah.
In the queue. But, opening bandcomes on, and he he can't
understand a single thing, andwe're like

Tyler (36:46):
Oh, no.

Danny (36:47):
And and people texted us and said, hey. Just get past the
opening band.

Tyler (36:51):
Okay.

Danny (36:51):
Opening band. Really, really good band. You could tell
they were really good, but theyonly played to one side of the
stadium on the other side ofwhat we were on. So we could
only watch them on the bigscreen. Mhmm.
They were playing to the otherside.

Tyler (37:03):
Their stage setup just wasn't prepared.

Danny (37:05):
And so then the next band comes on, and he's really good,
Really good. And I've heard someof his songs, and he's playing
to us. They're not movingaround. I'm like, how is this
gonna even go on? How is thisgonna work?

Tyler (37:17):
Yeah.

Danny (37:18):
And then they said, just wait. Because when he comes on,
he'll play for 2 and a halfhours. Yep. No questions asked.
And then you hear that?
And, dude, the crowd went

Tyler (37:35):
nuts. Yeah.

Danny (37:35):
And we sang for 2 and a half hours. Yep. Every song,
every song hung on to everyword. Yep. Every little thing
that he did, everything was whatyou thought it would be.
That dude is amazing.

Tyler (37:50):
Yep. Real troubadour. Wow.

Danny (37:53):
And, and saying his heart out and

Tyler (37:56):
pulled some kid up on stage.

Danny (37:58):
This was on for that was on Friday.

Tyler (37:59):
Was that on Friday? That was

Danny (38:00):
on Friday. Okay. Santa came out for us. Okay. He
played, every song that I wantedto hear except for a couple.
He played, so many songs that wesang, but, you you look on it
and you're like, is this a oncein a lifetime experience?

Tyler (38:21):
Yeah. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

Danny (38:23):
He is he, is he a generational act?

Tyler (38:27):
Yeah. Yeah. The the does he have staying power?

Danny (38:31):
You know the dude likes to get down? Yeah. He likes to
party. Yep. Is this a generallygenerational act?
Where it's like, man, I I don'tknow if I'll see that again.
I've seen some really coolconcerts. I've been around a
really a lot of really funevents. Yeah. But that was
insane.
Such a great show.

Tyler (38:52):
I know I had 4 or 5 people that went to the concert
that sent me clips. So he played68 Fastback, which is absolutely
my favorite song.

Danny (38:59):
He did he did on Saturday for us.

Tyler (39:01):
Yeah. Gosh. That sent me the they sent me clips and
videos of that song, and it wasjust

Danny (39:05):
yeah. It was fun. It was it was life changing for us
because we love well, you know,I love his music so much.

Tyler (39:13):
Yeah.

Danny (39:14):
And I've missed 2 really good shows. Like I said, I had I
had tickets to Red Rock.

Tyler (39:20):
Oh, yeah.

Danny (39:20):
I had tickets to San Diego. And seeing him at the
Delta Center, I was a littlelike, goddamn. I would have
liked to see him some otherplaces. Yeah. I hope he goes on
some smaller tours, like, goback to Red Rocks.

Tyler (39:32):
It would it it it won't. It's hard once you've done that
to go back. Right? Like, he soldout everywhere he went. Right?

Danny (39:39):
Yeah.

Tyler (39:39):
He sold out Mile High. You know who else sold out Mile
High? Taylor Swift. Right? Like,so he's kind of in that genre.
Like, does it stay? Does itstay? Right? Like, his does does
his next album hit? Does he takesome time off given all the heat
that that he's got and justproduce some studio albums?

Danny (39:57):
No. Because I don't care what they say. That dude is the
man.

Tyler (40:01):
Yeah. Yeah. No. I think I think they were I think they
were barking just because theymake money for barking. They,
like

Danny (40:07):
They're talking for no reason. Yeah. And she's fighting
with her best friend anywaysnow.

Tyler (40:11):
Right.

Danny (40:11):
So she's the problem.

Tyler (40:13):
I I mean, yeah. Yeah. Nobody's perfect. Right? I think
the best thing he's done forhimself is keep his mouth shut.
Right? Just do his do his thing,make his make his music. It it
it it will be do the albumscontinue to come out? Do they
continue to have the same

Danny (40:30):
Firepower.

Tyler (40:30):
The same firepower, the same but people love him because
they relate with his lyrics onon on every album.

Danny (40:36):
On every album.

Tyler (40:36):
I agree. And he he pulled in some great people in this
last album, you know, JohnMayer, Bruce Springsteen, like,
will he continue to do that? AndI think, yeah, I think he I
think he will. I think he has Imean, he has.

Danny (40:50):
As you do a year recap, things pop in your head. Yeah.
Guess what I just remembered.

Tyler (40:55):
What did you just remember?

Danny (40:56):
CGI. Oh, yeah. CGI.

Tyler (40:58):
Yeah. Craig Jones.

Danny (41:00):
Craig Jones.

Tyler (41:01):
He's looking for some places to to hang out for
Christmas.

Danny (41:04):
He could hang out in Hebrew. Yeah.

Tyler (41:06):
I hate jiu jitsu. He he's got a lot of people offering him

Danny (41:10):
places to stay. But that was a that changed jujitsu.

Tyler (41:14):
I think it changed jujitsu. Yeah.

Danny (41:18):
I was talking to professor Quran and talk we were
talking the other day and andhow hard it is now to to for
young up and comers, a guy likeTripp

Tyler (41:29):
Mhmm.

Danny (41:30):
To to find a path in jujitsu. Because do you become
do you become the heel? Right.Do you become a personality?

Tyler (41:39):
Right.

Danny (41:40):
Can you let can you let your jujitsu speak for itself?

Tyler (41:44):
Right.

Danny (41:45):
And in this moment, you may not be able to. You may have
to, like, become a personalityand trip it. Triple stand on his
business. Right. He's a goodtrain.
He's tough. Yeah. But, you know,he's not gonna go out there and,
like, become this crazypersonality that that jujitsu is
kind of promoting at this point.

Tyler (42:05):
I don't think jujitsu has a chance in hell until there's a
governing body that regulateswhat goes into your body, drug
wise. I mean, because you havewhat what's his name?

Danny (42:16):
Pat down. Oh, no. I mean, Jordan. Right.

Tyler (42:19):
Oh, well, you have Gordon you have Gordon Gordon, but then
you have the other guy, MikeMikey.

Danny (42:23):
Mikey Matsumachi.

Tyler (42:24):
Yeah. Matsumachi. Like, he's, like, he's bagging on the
people that that take steroids.

Danny (42:29):
Steroids.

Tyler (42:30):
Right? You have Craig who kind of is in the middle of it.
He's kinda created his own hisown thing. You got, you know,
Gordon who's, you know is he theheel or is he the

Danny (42:42):
You and I and you and I can't relate to any of them. No.
We're doing jujitsu for a wholeother reason.

Tyler (42:48):
We got Rotolo out there, like, destroying fools as well.
Right? Like, there's so manynames, so many different
personalities. It needs, itneeds a governing body that,
like, takes it seriously. And Ithink that's what Craig is
trying to do, getting them paid.
Right? Getting paid is onething. Once you get people paid,
it it becomes easier to say,okay. How do we even the playing

(43:10):
field? Right?
When when, you know, it's alegitimate sport and there's
money to be made, people willinvest their time and effort to
do it.

Danny (43:18):
And they get on to Kurt's sorry. To get on to Craig's,
eyesight. Yeah. You have to havea personality.

Tyler (43:26):
Yeah.

Danny (43:26):
You know? Yeah. And that's gonna be hard for people.
Yeah. You know, you have to havea storyline.
It becomes the American Idol ofjujitsu or the ultimate fighter
of jujitsu. You know? And and sojujitsu changes. Life changes.
How as a man do you keep up?

(43:48):
How do you how do you keeppressing forward? How does
Tyler, knowing the year that youhad, be this person that's
smiling, laughing, like, stompedon life still?

Tyler (44:01):
It's the persistence. Right? It is the persistence.
Right? There are going to bedays.
You have to understand there'sgoing to be days where you're on
the bottom. You're gettingsmashed. Right?

Danny (44:11):
It's it's your job today.

Tyler (44:12):
But yeah. And you just you you have to realize that,
you know, better days are on onon the rest. The round

Danny (44:20):
will end.

Tyler (44:21):
Yeah. They're on the horizon. And and it's it can't
just be the same. And I again,there's all these there's all
these quips. There's all ofthis, you know, comparison is
the thief of joy.
There's all of these differentthings you can tell yourself,
but it really just comes down tobeing resilient.

Danny (44:39):
I agree. That's such a good word.

Tyler (44:41):
Being resilient and being persistent.

Danny (44:43):
Are you resilient? Yeah. Can you withstand the storms?
Can you be the buffalo? Yeah.
Yeah. Can you be the buffalo?Yeah. We talked about that.
Yeah.
Can you run at the storm?

Tyler (44:54):
Can you run at the storm so you're through the storm?

Danny (44:56):
The better weather's on the other side.

Tyler (44:58):
And the better food and the better the better times.
Yeah. Yeah. And it may notalways feel like it's possible.
It may feel like the world isnot stacked in, in your favor.
You may have, you may have gonethrough a terrible divorce and
you may see the system at work,you know, taking your children,
taking your money, and and itmay seem unfair. You may go

(45:19):
through, horrible illness, orjob loss, or don't get caught in
that moment. Don't get caught init.

Danny (45:31):
Yeah. Don't stay there.

Tyler (45:32):
Don't stay there.

Danny (45:33):
It's not gonna it it you can weather it.

Tyler (45:35):
You're right.

Danny (45:36):
You can get past it, and you can look back like we just
did and have fun memories Yeah.And have sad memories. Yeah. And
you don't have to, like, be,like, oh, that was that was life
changing.

Tyler (45:47):
Right.

Danny (45:47):
Because we have life changing moments.

Tyler (45:50):
Yes, we did.

Danny (45:50):
Good and bad last year.

Tyler (45:52):
Yes, we did. And,

Danny (45:57):
it's fun. It's fun. Life is fun. Yeah. Don't ever think
that it's the end.
Like, you have to be like, thisis it, man. This is my life, and
I'm stuck here and nobody elseis going through it. Yeah. And I
don't want to go through itanymore and take that next step
of of removing yourself fromthis situation. Yeah.

(46:18):
You know, we we always tell saythat we we, you know, we don't
want to lose another man.

Tyler (46:24):
Right.

Danny (46:24):
I don't want to lose another man. Yeah. I'm tired of
losing men

Tyler (46:29):
to

Danny (46:29):
the battle, to the fight. Yep. To the fight of life. And
those men had their own reasons,you know, their own their own
demons that they struggled with.But when we look back on it, you
know, we want to be like, thiswas an amazing run.
I had an amazing run. Yeah. Idid everything that I could to

(46:51):
have an amazing run.

Tyler (46:52):
Right.

Danny (46:53):
You know, and so a year in review and a year looking
back on things positive ornegative, how do you feel about
your life right now?

Tyler (47:06):
Positive. Positive. It I mean, again, it it just comes
back to programming that portionof your brain. What about you?
Positive or negative?

Danny (47:17):
Trajecting up. Yeah. I'm not trying to win every day
anymore. Yeah. I'm not trying towin every day.
I'm trying to win moments. Yeah.To win over people. Yeah. To win
over positions.

Tyler (47:37):
Yeah. Right. I think one of the most freeing things for
me will be when there's there'scertain people that I keep
trying to prove stuff to. And Iknow it's a process for me to
let go of that needing to proveit to him. When I can truly be,
like, no flatlined.

(47:59):
When I can truly be, like,whatever you, whatever you're
projecting on me doesn't affectme. Like, that is, that will be,
that will be when I know thatI'm, I'm truly in a healed
position. Right? Like that I'min a healed position. I don't, I
don't need to be right.
I don't need to be right. Idon't need to be validated

(48:21):
because I'm already validatingmyself because I'm getting
better this much every day.

Danny (48:25):
1% every day.

Tyler (48:26):
1%. Maybe it's even half a percent. Yeah. You know,
sometimes it's just draggingyour ass out of bed.

Danny (48:31):
Trajecting up.

Tyler (48:32):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (48:33):
Yeah. My life is my life is great. Right. Even the
battles, even the the the thingsthat suck build me to be a
better man.

Tyler (48:44):
Yeah.

Danny (48:45):
Right. And I know that too. Like, you know, we we did
make amends with my family.

Tyler (48:51):
You

Danny (48:51):
know, my Misty and my family made amends. She went
with my family. Yeah. ToDisneyland. And that in itself
tells you that, like, life lifewill get better.
It's gonna get worse. Right. Youknow, we're at our age. We're at
an age where we're going to loseour grandparents. We're going to

(49:12):
lose our parents.
We're going to lose friends andfamily members. We're going to
lose things. And you're crazy tothink that you're not. Right.

Tyler (49:22):
Right.

Danny (49:22):
Right. But when you can always see the spring, the
summer, the fall, and thewinter, those 4 seasons, you can
always see that things willchange.

Tyler (49:34):
Right.

Danny (49:35):
Things are gonna change. Something's gonna get better.
Something may get worse. But forall of our listeners, for all of
our friends, remember that thisworld is better with you in it.
Absolutely.
It's better, and we are better.We're better men by the fact
that we're never going to giveup on each other.

Tyler (49:56):
Yep.

Danny (49:56):
We're never going to give up on our dreams. We're never
going to give up on seeing tofruition what we have in in in
laid out for each other.

Tyler (50:06):
Yeah.

Danny (50:06):
Right. And if you have a battle buddy, if you have a
friend like that. Right? Yeah.If you find somebody and you
find that resilience in eachother, then you're going to be
fine.

Tyler (50:17):
It's gonna be yeah. And you don't have to fake it. You
don't have to be fake.

Danny (50:21):
Yeah.

Tyler (50:22):
You can't make you can't make real friends with fake
people anyway. Agreed. So, yeah,find your battle buddy. Find the
person that that you can you cantalk to. You know, I had a I had
a coaching session.
I haven't had one in a in aminute. I've it's not a part of
my business that I've reallyfocused on. I had a coaching
session in last week and I wasjust like, dude, this brought me
so much, like so much joy tojust connect with this young man

(50:45):
and like, just catch up on wherewe had been and what he'd been
doing. And like, it was justlike, there was so much clarity
that was gained and just, andjust meeting with each other.
You don't have to pay a coach.
I mean, yes, it, it, if youcan't find anyone, maybe go find
on hire a coach for like, justfind somebody.

Danny (51:04):
Find somebody.

Tyler (51:05):
Find a therapist. Find a find anybody. There's somebody
willing to listen.

Danny (51:09):
Yeah. I had a friend ask me today if I've always been,
you know, this insightful orthis, like, this person,

Tyler (51:18):
you know?

Danny (51:18):
And I told her I was like, nope.

Tyler (51:21):
Yeah. No.

Danny (51:21):
No. Yeah. No. No. It's a lot of work.
Yeah. What we have, what we'vecreated, this platform, this
this idea that we have to allowmen to open up and talk to each
other. And just like, yeah, whocares what you say? You don't
have to be tough every day. Arewe tough?

(51:42):
Yes. Do we stand on business?Yes. If we have to fight, will
we? Yes.

Tyler (51:47):
Yes.

Danny (51:47):
Yes. For sure. For sure. But you don't have to be that
person every day. You can letyour guard down, and not every
man has been told that.

Tyler (51:58):
Right.

Danny (51:58):
If we can reach 1, 2, 3, 4. If we can reach our sons and
tell them, let your guard down.You don't have to sit in this
trauma. You don't have to beembarrassed. Yeah.
You can talk about what you'regoing through safely.

Tyler (52:16):
Right.

Danny (52:17):
I may tease the shit out of you.

Tyler (52:18):
Right.

Danny (52:19):
But it's a safe moment.

Tyler (52:21):
Yeah. Absolutely. Right? Like, I'm I'm here to teach you
the lessons that the world willteach you much harsher

Danny (52:27):
Harsher.

Tyler (52:28):
In in a kind in a kind way. Right? And if I can teach
you to be resilient, like, ifyou get nothing more than just
be resilient, to just learn tostare rejection in the face and
say good.

Danny (52:38):
Good.

Tyler (52:39):
You are gonna be a powerful young man, and I've
done my job.

Danny (52:43):
Yep. And and we'll we'll get past any moment. We'll
always be able to to look backon a year Mhmm. And find
happiness, sadness, mediocre,and, like, nothing nothing even
nothing even changed. Yep.
But did we traject up? Did weget better? Did we improve our

(53:04):
lives?

Tyler (53:05):
Yeah. For sure.

Danny (53:06):
Yeah. For sure. Did we make our relationships that we
wanted to stronger? Yeah. Yes.
Did we get rid of thoserelationships that don't mean
shit to us anymore? Yeah. Did weget rid of those relationships?
Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. Did we did we clean thehouse every once in a while and
be like, yep. Not today. Yeah.You know, did we still get

(53:27):
smashed?

Tyler (53:28):
I've every once in a while.

Danny (53:29):
You know, you still get tapped. Yeah. Hell, yeah.

Tyler (53:32):
Yeah. Yeah.

Danny (53:33):
Wake up and smile again. Right?

Tyler (53:35):
Right.

Danny (53:37):
What you get? So you so you may go to Denver, hopefully.

Tyler (53:42):
Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm looking at going to Denver. What
do I have? Christmas.
The kids will be here. NewYear's. So I'll be I'll be back
in town for that. Yeah. I don'tknow.
It works Saturday. I don't haveany other days, like, I I don't
know what I'll end up doing. Igot a full tank of gas, and I
might just point the carsomewhere and

Danny (54:02):
Train a little bit.

Tyler (54:03):
Oh, definitely. Definitely.

Danny (54:05):
Get some training.

Tyler (54:06):
Get some training in. What about you?

Danny (54:08):
Yeah. We have a couple of wrestling meets coming up. Yeah.
Couple of family things goingon. We will spend Christmas with
just Misty, myself, and Tripp.
Braxton is not gonna be able tomake it home

Tyler (54:21):
for

Danny (54:22):
Christmas, but he'll be home 1st part of next year.

Tyler (54:24):
Because he's he's he's wrapping up soon. Right?

Danny (54:26):
Dude, this guy is so close. Yeah. I talked to him the
other day, and he's so close.But he's so close that, you
know, you're like he can hear inhis voice. He's just like, man,
I'm close, man.
I'm close. Yeah. And, yeah,we're gonna we're gonna enjoy.
I've got a crazy Q1. Crazy Q1.

Tyler (54:47):
Yeah.

Danny (54:47):
We're wrestling. And then February is insane for me.

Tyler (54:50):
Yeah. Yeah, I'll bet.

Danny (54:52):
I did book a trip to Mexico, so we are going back to
Mexico 8 days and we're excited.We're going to go back there.
We're going to that'll be likeour decompress time. And then,
yeah, it'll be fun. So I believethat what we have moving forward

(55:12):
is going to be is going to growexponentially next year.
Yeah, I believe that. I believethat we're gonna hit a mark with
people and the fact that we'rearound them Yeah. Exponentially
next year. Nice. And that's whatI look forward to.

Tyler (55:26):
I I mean, that's a possibility. Hang on to the
possibility of of of Don't

Danny (55:31):
let it go.

Tyler (55:32):
Don't. Don't. And and do what you can to to to fan the
flame. Right? Yeah.
Because it is going to be agreat year. Well, Danny, great
episode. Cheers. I'm I'm I gottacrack my other one down here.

Danny (55:44):
I I appreciate you. Yeah. Here is to more times and more
good times and remembering whowe have

Tyler (55:54):
Yeah.

Danny (55:55):
Who we've lost Yep. And what we have in front of us.

Tyler (55:59):
Yes, sir.

Danny (55:59):
You know, and I appreciate all of our everybody
that's listened to us. Yeah.Everybody that takes time for
us, everybody that, gives Tylerand I space, I appreciate it.
This, to Nick, we appreciateyou. We love you.
We miss you. And all of ourfriends and family that we may
not see, we appreciate you all.

Tyler (56:19):
Yeah. Cheers.

Danny (56:20):
Cheers.

Tyler (56:20):
Happy New Year, and, thanks for another great season.

Danny (56:24):
Love

Tyler (56:28):
you.
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