March 11, 2025 • 30 mins
In this episode, we review "Preparing for Marriage" and recap how this book helped us prepare for the meaning of marriage during a season when it's often overlooked.
Preparing for marriage requires more than planning a wedding - it demands intentional investment in your relationship's foundation through continuing education, spiritual growth, and honest conversations about expectations.
• Biblical blueprint for marriage including finances, roles, and expectations
• Servant leadership transforms how husbands can lead by serving their wives
• Understanding submission as a willing, loving choice rather than loss of identity
• Importance of tackling premarital counseling early in engagement before wedding planning takes over
• Prayer and Bible study create spiritual intimacy that strengthens marriage
• Parents questionnaire opens communication with both families before marriage
• Fighting fair is a crucial skill that develops over time
• Marriage preparation should include ministry preparation for Christian couples
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This week's book is Preparing for Marriage.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is a very thorough book to help you get
your foundation work in to getyou prepared for a marriage.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We did this to avoid getting so wrapped up in the day
yes that we miss the meaning ofthe day.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We're not perfect people.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
By any means.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
But by trusting in God we learned what it takes to
build a friendship.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
A relationship.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And marriage that has stood the test of time.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
With a Keeping it Real style.
We're going to talk to youabout everything everything that
we've been through are goingthrough and have overcome all by
learning how to lean on God andeach other in order to help you
learn how to love by faith.
Good morning Selena.
(00:58):
Robin Williams, yep, nice, goodcall.
I've never seen that movie frombeginning to end.
Good Morning Vietnam.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Neither have I.
No, there's a lot of reallygood movies that I've never seen
.
That movie From beginning toend.
Good Morning Vietnam.
Neither have I.
No, there's a lot of like,really good movies that I have
not seen.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
He was so far like I was like, just A little bit too
young for me.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I've never seen the whole Fight Club.
I know I'm shocked by that Iknow I've never seen the whole
Fight Club, things like that.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
There are a few movies that I've seen multiple
times beginning to end fightclub is one of them, for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, it's a guy's movie I've had to like I wanted
to figure it out, it's it'sstuff.
Yes, and see all the stuffagain.
Yes, I see, I like movies likethat where you have to go at,
like inception don't say it.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
We're not talking about that movie interstellar
yes, we're not talking aboutthat.
Keep it moving, moving.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I like movies like that.
It takes you a few dozen timesto really understand it.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
You're trying to get me fired up.
Why do you hate Interstellar somuch?
I'm not talking aboutInterstellar.
Why is it so bad we're notdoing this?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Okay, I respect that.
Selene, I'm just going tochoose to not get riled up about
if anybody wants to talk to meabout this movie, like, please,
let's do a sidebar and we cantalk about, we can have a group
movie discussion about the onemovie that kyle detests you
can't stand.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I'm not talking about it.
I'm not talking about it.
So this month we're in theGreat Book Series what's it
called?
Serious Couples Series oh yeah,the SCS, the Serious Couples
Series, it's a book club.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
We're only here.
This is our last episode forthe month of March, and so we
decided, while we have a fewepisodes here, why don't we go
ahead and share some of the fewbooks that really helped and
shaped us in our you want me tosay couple instead of you're?
fine, say it bro I feel like youwant me to say couple instead
of you, since we have a coupleof episodes this month.
(02:54):
Yeah, we have a couple of bookrecommendations that really
helped us when we were in ourserious couple stage before we
were engaged, before we weremarried.
We knew this was going somewhere.
We had every intention ofseeing it to the end at the
altar, and so these books reallyhelped us.
Something that Kyle pointed outin the last episode is that,
(03:15):
even if you are married, theseare really good books to still
dive into and check out, becausethere might be some things,
topics, issues that you wouldhave never even considered, even
in the number of years thatyou've already been married.
So going back, having thisrefresher, would be really
(03:36):
helpful for you as well.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
That's always how it goes.
When you have to giveinstruction on something or
really discuss something and youcare about it, you go back and
you re-dive into it yeah, Ifound that re-diving into these
books to in my show prep was sohelpful to me.
Like see, like whoa, that'swhere I was, that's what I was
thinking back then and now it'slike this and compare and
(03:58):
contrast the old stuff.
So that's where, like, thesekind of books are great to have
the paper version.
I'm such an audio book personsuch a digital book person, but
it is so great.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
To write the notes.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
To have it, to write the notes in it and be able to
look back at, like, where was Iwhen I was talking about this?
What was I thinking when I wastalking about this?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And not only that, but I had a really deep
revelation, probably likeyesterday Okay, very recent and
the revelation was this I gottwo degrees.
I got my bachelor's and mymaster's, both in health
administration.
Okay, and at the time it was2007, 2008, going into 2009.
(04:35):
So president Obama was justbecoming president, okay.
So the running joke that I havewith people is you know, if you
want to know anything aboutObamacare, I'm your girl.
I can break this down for youbecause I spent lots of money
understanding it and lookinginto it and seeing how it
affects America.
(04:56):
In that time, today's day,today's health care, I was
thinking to myself like, wow, Idon't know very much about the
healthcare policies of today.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Okay, right.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Even though I got my training all those years ago.
Today it doesn't hold upbecause I never continued the
education to keep up with theupdates and the policies.
Yeah, and I feel like goingthrough books like this is like
continuing education for yourmarriage.
Just because you got married ayear ago, five years ago, 10
years ago, doesn't mean youstill retained the updated
(05:29):
information of how we wentthrough seasons, of how your
person grew, of how we'vedeveloped and evolved.
You still have to constantlycontinue to educate yourself so
that your marriage can berelevant and recent and really
just help thrive in today's time.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And so that's our encouragement, for this series
was to provide you with a couplebooks to hey, let's go back and
get some continuing educationcredits for our marriage, right,
let's go back and make surethat we're on the right path,
that we're in the same flow,that, even though our marriage
feels great right now, let's dosome investing so that it feels
great continually.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
It grows great continually.
I feel like I'm going tobutcher this, but C-E-C.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Continuing Education Credit.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
For the S-C-S.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
For Serious Couple Series.
Yes, all right, you did that.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I did it.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So, without further ado, let's get into what this
week's book is.
Yes, drum roll please, selena,that's your drum roll, wait let
me have my throat dry, okay.
Okay, sip the coffee.
Okay Ding, I can't do it.
(06:43):
This week's book is Prep formarriage.
I brought the book because it'sgot five authors and a general
editor.
I'm not.
I'm not even gonna go for thesenames david, brent, jeff and
lloyd come on, give them somecredit david boy, brent nelson,
jeff schulte and lloyd shadrack.
What a cool name preparing forMarriage.
This is a great book.
(07:04):
Blessed Our Marriage in so manyways.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
This is from the Family Life publication.
So if you know Family Life,they're also affiliated with the
Weekend and Remember they havea podcast, they do a ton of
stuff, so this is through theiravenue 100% Christian-based.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Learn about God's.
Let's read this part.
Learn about God's.
Let's read this part.
Learn about God's uniqueblueprints for marriage.
Discern God's will for yourrelationship Handle your
finances.
I go slow here, because that'swhat people always want to talk
about and plan for the future,clarify your roles and
responsibilities.
That was a great section.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
That was very good.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Establish a positive, loving sexual relationship.
Deal with issues, expectations.
Another huge, huge thing wetalk about a lot Expectations
and family histories andevaluate, as a couple, your
readiness for marriage.
Are you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I feel like there's eight chapters to this.
Was there eight?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Let's see, you want me to look at this.
Yeah, let's dig in here.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So, in contrast to the 101 questions to ask before
you get engaged, Kyle and I didthat book before we were engaged
.
Obviously right, but we Keepgoing.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I'll tell you in a second.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Keep going.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I don't want to interrupt you.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
We did this before we were engaged.
So we were very serious, wewere dating, but we were close
enough to know like, okay, we,we know marriage is in our
future.
We just want to make sure we'reoverly prepared for taking the
next step, cause we don't wantto take the next step and not be
prepared.
We did that book.
This book we did immediatelyafter we got engaged.
(08:38):
Yeah, we started and went slowthis was kind of our premarital
book study that we did before wemet with our pastor and before
we did the actual premaritalpart to marry us.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I laughed because we did this book 2012-ish.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
And then, all of a sudden, you remember that
there's eight chapters.
Yes, how does your brain dothat?
How does your brain rememberthat there's eight chapters in
this book?
I don't know 13 years ago.
Chapters in this book?
I don't 13 years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I don't know, I don't have an answer.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's why I started laughing, because I'm like how
does she remember there's eightchapters?
Like your brain, it gets meevery time.
So yeah, eight chapters.
Appendixes.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
And I think that's why we did it as like a
pre-premarital course, becausewe were like, oh, eight weeks
with our spiritual mentor, thatwould be a great thing to do at
the first part of our engagementseason.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Because if we waited till the end of our engagement
season then you're worried aboutvenues and money and dresses
and all the parties and stufflike that.
So we did this early on to helpus really start to form.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Keep us grounded.
It was to keep us groundedduring the wedding planning.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
We were like, hey, we can get so wrapped up and get
in such a hurry to plan theevent that we get out of sync
with planning our spiritualfuture, planning our physical
connection future.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yes, the marriage part and not just the wedding.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Right.
We did this to avoid getting sowrapped up in the day that we
miss the meaning of the day.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Which is a huge problem that a lot of couples
have.
They think once they getengaged it's like okay game on
wedding and they almost forgetabout this, even to the point
where you go to get premaritalcounseling and when you do that
oftentimes it is with the pastorof your church, but how many
other hats is your pastorwearing and how often can they
(10:30):
pour into you for an entireseason of this?
Maybe you guys are blessed andyou have a church where this is
in place and there are people,there's a whole ministry that's
really focused on this and thatis one of our desires one day is
to become that for our churchand so helping people and it's
not a bother, it's not an add on.
You're not constantlyrescheduling, but a lot of the
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times the premarital counselingportion in in order is is just
kind of like a stipulation tookay, we have to do this in
order for this person to marryus, you know, and they don't
really carve into the time oflike what does it really take
and really work and iron outthose issues that you might run
across when you go through theseeight chapters.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
So each chapter is set up like this, where it's
based in a biblical truth, right, and then it talks about like
examining really what the Biblemeans by what they're saying
there, and then it gives you acouples project to work out and
work together and ask you realquestions.
It's a workbook style, sothere's fill in the blanks and
(11:34):
there's thoughts, and thenthere's optional assignments.
Oh yes, those are great so youcan dig deeper and go more into
this topic and get you know, gomore into this topic.
If the topic is a hard one foryou, I'm going to recommend that
you get into this, to theoptional assignment to help you
get deeper in that topic.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I have so many things to say, but I don't know where
you're going to go with this.
That's all right.
We're a team, let's go.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I got one last thing to say about the setup.
There's also a section forcouples who are previously
married so that they can workthrough previous marriage issues
and make sure you don't makethe same mistakes.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Bring baggage into it Right.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Okay, you got so much to say.
Where do you want to go here?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
So I want to ask you specifically what was your
biggest takeaway from doing thisbook.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
That's funny.
You should say that because inpreparing for the episode, I
marked a couple things I wantedto talk about.
Okay, the one thing that Iliked the most was this part
where they were talking aboutroles right and how to be a man.
You know we were talking aboutEphesians 5.
25.
Christ loved the church and gavehimself up for her and there
(12:43):
was a chart in there about howto be a, you know, a good leader
, a lording leader, a passivenon-leader or a servant leader,
and I thought that, filling outthis chart and really thinking
through how to be a servantleader for my wife, was my
biggest takeaway.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And so in each situation, I still find myself
to this day like how do I be aservant leader in this situation
when you're freaking out andoverwhelmed and stressed or
whatever it is?
How do I serve her to lead thefamily Like servant?
You know how do I wash her feet?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
That's awesome Because how that has helped you
and you've carried it on for ourwhole marriage.
What helped me the most in thisbook is understanding how a
wife is to be a helper andsubmit.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Because when I met that topic in this book, I was
still very much independent,very.
You're not going to tell mewhat to do.
You're not going to take awaymy power.
You're not going to dull myshine Like I'm going to do me
and you're going to do you, andI respect what you do, but
you're also definitely going torespect my shine, like I'm going
to do me and you're going to doyou and I respect what you do,
but you're also definitely goingto respect what I do.
(14:00):
And so I had to like.
This book helped me understand,from a woman's perspective,
what it meant to be a helper andwhat it meant to submit
willingly and lovingly under theleader authority of a husband.
I want to even say we took vows, we took a part of our wedding
(14:20):
ceremony from this book yeah,yeah, yeah, we did yeah, there
was a portion of the book thatlike really come on miss memory
trap.
You should have this memorizedit really summarized this
because you know you, when yougo to a wedding, they have the
typical love is patient, love iskind, love does not easily
anger and it's just like, okay,we we hear this all the time,
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but we wanted verses and wewanted scriptures and we wanted
passages that really help ourfamily and friends and us
understand what it is that weare doing.
And there was a paragraph inthis book that was so
beautifully stated.
When a man and a woman cometogether, they choose to love in
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all of these different ways,and from the love that they
choose in all of these differentways, there comes the sacrifice
of themselves to become a newthing that would become them as
one.
I don't know how it's wordedit's in there, but we use that
passage as one of the readingsfor our wedding.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
You got into your favorite part of the book.
I got into my favorite part ofthe book.
Let's dig into the back of thebook Because when I was doing
the show prep, I found anawesome section that I wanted to
, and we should have done this along time ago.
It is the interview.
Couple's interview.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
So you're supposed to , as a premarital interview, a
couple who's been married morethan five years?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And get their.
I think we did this Get theirfeedback.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I think we did this.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Did we interview my parents?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
No.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Your parents took the , so there's another appendix
called the parents questionnaire.
Okay, all of our parents tookthat oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
dictator in chief my father.
Okay, yes, yes.
So one of the good things aboutthis is they ask what would you
like your?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
in-law.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Your kid what would you lock your kid-in-law to call
you?
yeah and my father said dictatorin chief yes and then there was
also you know, if we have kids,what would you like to be
called like?
They had that question.
Yeah, and how was your like,what is your thoughts on love
and what are your thoughts onthis?
And what if your son ordaughter has problems and they
come to you like, what are yougoing to tell them?
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What if your son or daughterhas problems and they come to
you like, what are you going totell them like?
In other words, like, turn themback around and send them back
to their spouse or you knowwhatever.
Whatever, but it was, it wasvery thorough I bet you I have
that email.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, it was written out.
I forgot about they wrote themout, they wrote them out oh we
printed them and they they'reprobably in that wedding
planning binder yeah, I couldsee it being there okay, so
interview questions.
Let's see, I'm only gonna askyou a couple.
There's, there's nine hereyou're gonna ask me nine
questions.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
No, no, I'm only gonna ask you a couple.
I was gonna say, I talk a lot,bro, that'd be a whole another
episode tell me about it thatshould be a good episode.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Oh, maybe that could be a mini, a mini so what asking
some questions all theseinterview questions okay so it's
got like a past, present,future, three sections okay okay
, so what are some of yourfondest memories you have of
your first years of marriage,selena?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
understand this.
In our first years of marriage,which probably a lot of you guys
can you know relate to, we werebroke okay we were broke and we
were really struggling and andwe were just two kids trying to
make our dreams come true, andthat required a lot of just
being focused and not looking tothe right or to the left.
(18:00):
But I will say that's a word,bro Keep going Okay, keep going
Sorry.
But I will say, before we hadchildren, we did a lot of things
together.
Yeah, we went to the parktogether, we went to the movies
together, we went out to eattogether.
We always went to this dinerall the time to eat.
We, we just hung out like Ifeel like once we were married
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and we didn't have curfews andwe didn't have boundaries, we
were just able to kick it andenjoy each other's company yeah
at all hours of the day and thatwas really fun yeah, stay up
late, wake up early.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So I have two fondest memories.
My fondest memory is of ourfirst years of marriage.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
It was definitely our prayer room yes, oh yes, I
forgot the prayer room.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And how much time we spent in there every morning for
like those first six months wedid, and just figuring out how
to really do that together yes,spiritual intimacy that was an
awesome that was awesome time ofour marriage.
And then the uh second ishonestly our, our fighting in
the beginning I didn't want tobring it up no, it was.
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I look back on it with fondmemories because it's funny now
that we matured through that andwe've grown through that and we
learned those lessons, yes, andwe've learned those lessons,
yes, and those were vital to ourgrowth as a couple and getting
through that together, learninghow to fight those are fond
memories.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
That's another book Fight Fair, I think, is the name
of it.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Oh, okay, dropping little nuggets of wisdom, yeah,
all right.
Looking at the present here.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Let's see what are some practical ways you have
found to keep your relationshipwith god a priority in your
marriage and family.
Practical ways keep yourrelation, your relationship with
god, a priority in marriage.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Me personally.
Yeah, I make it in 2025 in thiscurrent season because, it
changes from season to seasondepending on what's going on,
but in this current season 2025,I have made it a point to wake
up early before I do anythingelse in my day, before I work
out, before I do anything.
I've been getting in my wordand I used to do an audio read
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through the Bible.
I did that twice.
I did that for two years.
I read the Bible twice.
But now I'm getting back to thephysical word and there's
something about being in thepapers and writing the notes and
seeing the context and flippingback to seeing the
cross-reference and just reallyfully digesting and chewing on
the word.
(20:33):
And so I've been doing that andyou have been joining me.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
We have been doing that together, so now we're
doing it together.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
It used to be just me , and then you would see me.
But then you were like I'mgoing to sit here too, and now
we're both reading and studyingthe word together, and I
encouraged you to bust out yourphysical word as well.
And so now we both have ourBibles cracked open and we're
both studying together, andthat's been a beautiful thing.
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We're not really talkingconversing as much, because
we're just it's our personaltime, it's our personal time,
but we're doing the personaltime together and now, like if a
kid comes down in the morning alittle earlier than expected,
they see us in our word and Iknow that that is going to have
a lasting impact.
I remember when my parents werereading the Bible first thing
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in the morning before the suncame up.
That's something we used topray together and I definitely I
still pray on my own in myoffice when you guys are all
gone.
I spend a lot of time in prayerand worship In my single by
faith society.
I do a lot of prayer with mygirls in there and so there's a
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lot of personal prayer that I dooutside of what my family sees
and that I think helps,contributes to my family dynamic
and me being a good wife.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Good answer, good answer.
Good answer yes, that's so cool.
Any, I don't know any lastthoughts on this book you want
to share.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
This is a very okay for short sweet to the point.
This is a very thorough book tohelp you get your foundation
work in, to get you prepared fora marriage.
Okay, the title is exactly whatit is it's going to help you
prepare for a marriage.
Kyle and I are actually workingon our own premarital course,
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called the Love by Faithpremarital course, of course,
and what we want to do is wewant to not only help prepare
you for marriage, but we want tohelp you navigate through your
wedding season, because a lot oftemptation and a lot of stress
falls into that, and we want tobe able to be there for you in
that aspect.
We want to help you with yourgroundwork of keeping it going
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through your honeymoon phase.
So there's going to be thatportion of like.
Once the wedding is over, whatthen?
How do you?
What should you focus on?
How do you continue to prepareand set that foundation and
solidify it so that it's thereand it's going to be an awesome
course?
There's an assessment,well-rounded, that we've been
creating to help peopleunderstand.
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Okay, what are my strong andweak points and how can we work
on those together?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You left out the part about preparing for ministry.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Oh, yes, of course, and so we're also going to
include.
You know now that two peoplewho serve and love the Lord are
going to become one.
You know how does that now lookin your church setting and in
your ministry setting and indiscipling other people and
other people and couples, youknow, in the future time.
So we really want to just takeall of the things that we have
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learned from these books andfrom our studying and compile it
into one big, beautiful coursethat would really help serious
couples not just get to thatplace of I do, but get to a
place of we're one and we'restrong with God and we're going
to do what God is calling us todo in this marriage, and we're
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confident and comfortable inknowing what God has called us
to and how to accomplish that.
Yes, so be on the lookout forthat.
That's coming very soon.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
If you're interested in taking part of that, get in
contact with us.
We have all of our links open.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
We're currently in our beta phase of the Love by
Faith premarital course.
So if you are a couple who isserious and you guys are
interested in becoming a betacourse taker, please contact us
and we will do some behind thescene work with you guys at a
reduced cost rate and you guyswill get all of the mentoring
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and support from us as we goalong and continue to prepare
this course for the rest of theworld.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
We, selene and I, love by Faith are out here to
help marriages grow, helpcouples do what God has called
them to do, help them live forChrist the way God has called us
to to make disciples to befilled with the Holy Spirit and
to go into the community andmake an impact.
And so this is just anotherbuilding block, in that it's
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bigger than the playbook.
It's bigger than just aquestionnaire or a workbook that
you fill in the blanks.
It's doing life together.
Yes, that's what we're about.
Yes, because this Christianwalk isn't solo, it isn't two
against the world.
It's doing life together.
Yes, that's what we're about.
Yes, because this Christianwalk isn't solo, it isn't two
against the world.
It's a team, it's a church,it's a village that is working
together for one mission.
This is just another way for usto really solidify that and to
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walk out our calling, walk outour ministry for what God has
called us to do.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Amen.
I love what you said there,because anyone can just go ahead
and get these books and weencourage you to go ahead and
get these books.
But if you are looking forsomeone to do this life with, if
you are looking to be discipledin this particular ministry
because marriage is a ministry,right?
So if you're looking to bediscipled in that ministry that
you guys are passionate aboutpursuing, then this is why the
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Love by Faith premarital coursewould be a great fit for you.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
That's it.
We've said what we need to say.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And-.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Go ahead and.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It's the last episode before a spring break.
Oh, spring break.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I'm dancing for spring break.
The idea of the weatherbreaking is what I'm dancing for
.
I can't wait.
I got so many yard projectsthis summer we do.
We have a lot of yard projects.
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
We have a lot of spring things going on, but we
are taking the next two weeks ofMarch off.
Of course, if you guys havebeen following us since day one,
then you guys know that we'renot really going away.
We have a little couple bonusepisodes that are going to come
your way in between, but for themost part we are just so
appreciative that you guys arehanged out with us all winter
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long and we will see youthoroughly, uh, in april with a
whole new series, new plays inthe playbooks that will be
coming your way and more ofKyle's shenanigans.
Come on.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I got a behind-the-back double play
going on the playbook next April.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
What does that even mean?
Double back, double play.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Behind-the-back double play.
What is?
That it's a baseball reference,because we're getting into
spring training season.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Oh, I see.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
The guys caught it.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Okay, guys who like baseball caught it.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Let's pray.
Let's get me out of here.
I got to go to work.
Oh my gosh, Lord, we aregrateful for this space.
Lord, we're grateful for yourcalling on our lives.
We're grateful for the coupleswho take your calling seriously
and who take your calling andwalk it out by faith.
Lord, we pray to be your lightin our communities, to be your
light in our homes and to beyour light in our homes and to
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be your light in our workplaces.
We just pray for guidance, Lord.
We pray for your Spirit to befilling and overflowing through
us, Lord.
Each day, Lord, we pray for themarriages, the couples who are
serious, who are listening tothis, that they would abide in
you, Lord, that they would takethis instruction, take this
wisdom offered and apply it.
And we just give you glory forany of the outcomes, all of the
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outcomes.
Lord, we give you glory forthis life In Jesus's name, amen.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Amen.
Thank you guys so much forwatching.
If you're on YouTube, pleaselike, share and subscribe.
If you're listening to us onApple or iHeartRadio or even
Spotify, then give us afive-star review so that more
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faith.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
She took my line.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Really.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
You closed with love, by faith.
That's perfect.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
No, I say that every single time.
I haven't memorized at thispoint what I say.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Way to go, man.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
It's the call to actions, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Love by faith, y'all.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Love by faith, faith y'all, love by faith y'all.
We hope you have a great restof your march, enjoy your spring
.
We will see you again in fullepisode mode in april, and we'll
see you then all right, bye,bye what I'm doing goofy faces
for your cover picture.
I'm not going to use any of thegoofy faces.
Have you seen the other bookepisode?
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I put the picture of the book.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Oh no, I didn't see that.
I didn't see that.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Well, that explains why you didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I listened to them.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I don't watch the video.
Did you give us a five-star?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
review.
Yes, when, twice?
Really yes, really yes, okay,one on spotify, one on apple.
Go away, come on, what is this?
The inquisition?
We've come to the same pointthat we come to every week I'm
not leaving.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
You're not leaving before me.
Why not?
Because I have to go see younext.
This week's book is Preparing for Marriage.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is a very thorough book to help you get
your foundation work in to getyou prepared for a marriage.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We did this to avoid getting so wrapped up in the day
yes that we miss the meaning ofthe day.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We're not perfect people.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
By any means.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
But by trusting in God we learned what it takes to
build a friendship.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
A relationship.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And marriage that has stood the test of time.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
With a Keeping it Real style.
We're going to talk to youabout everything everything that
we've been through are goingthrough and have overcome all by
learning how to lean on God andeach other in order to help you
learn how to love by faith.
Good morning Selena.
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Robin Williams, yep, nice, goodcall.
I've never seen that movie frombeginning to end.
Good Morning Vietnam.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Neither have I.
No, there's a lot of reallygood movies that I've never seen
.
That movie From beginning toend.
Good Morning Vietnam.
Neither have I.
No, there's a lot of like,really good movies that I have
not seen.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
He was so far like I was like, just A little bit too
young for me.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I've never seen the whole Fight Club.
I know I'm shocked by that Iknow I've never seen the whole
Fight Club, things like that.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
There are a few movies that I've seen multiple
times beginning to end fightclub is one of them, for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, it's a guy's movie I've had to like I wanted
to figure it out, it's it'sstuff.
Yes, and see all the stuffagain.
Yes, I see, I like movies likethat where you have to go at,
like inception don't say it.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
We're not talking about that movie interstellar
yes, we're not talking aboutthat.
Keep it moving, moving.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I like movies like that.
It takes you a few dozen timesto really understand it.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
You're trying to get me fired up.
Why do you hate Interstellar somuch?
I'm not talking aboutInterstellar.
Why is it so bad we're notdoing this?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Okay, I respect that.
Selene, I'm just going tochoose to not get riled up about
if anybody wants to talk to meabout this movie, like, please,
let's do a sidebar and we cantalk about, we can have a group
movie discussion about the onemovie that kyle detests you
can't stand.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I'm not talking about it.
I'm not talking about it.
So this month we're in theGreat Book Series what's it
called?
Serious Couples Series oh yeah,the SCS, the Serious Couples
Series, it's a book club.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
We're only here.
This is our last episode forthe month of March, and so we
decided, while we have a fewepisodes here, why don't we go
ahead and share some of the fewbooks that really helped and
shaped us in our you want me tosay couple instead of you're?
fine, say it bro I feel like youwant me to say couple instead
of you, since we have a coupleof episodes this month.
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Yeah, we have a couple of bookrecommendations that really
helped us when we were in ourserious couple stage before we
were engaged, before we weremarried.
We knew this was going somewhere.
We had every intention ofseeing it to the end at the
altar, and so these books reallyhelped us.
Something that Kyle pointed outin the last episode is that,
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even if you are married, theseare really good books to still
dive into and check out, becausethere might be some things,
topics, issues that you wouldhave never even considered, even
in the number of years thatyou've already been married.
So going back, having thisrefresher, would be really
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helpful for you as well.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
That's always how it goes.
When you have to giveinstruction on something or
really discuss something and youcare about it, you go back and
you re-dive into it yeah, Ifound that re-diving into these
books to in my show prep was sohelpful to me.
Like see, like whoa, that'swhere I was, that's what I was
thinking back then and now it'slike this and compare and
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contrast the old stuff.
So that's where, like, thesekind of books are great to have
the paper version.
I'm such an audio book personsuch a digital book person, but
it is so great.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
To write the notes.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
To have it, to write the notes in it and be able to
look back at, like, where was Iwhen I was talking about this?
What was I thinking when I wastalking about this?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And not only that, but I had a really deep
revelation, probably likeyesterday Okay, very recent and
the revelation was this I gottwo degrees.
I got my bachelor's and mymaster's, both in health
administration.
Okay, and at the time it was2007, 2008, going into 2009.
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So president Obama was justbecoming president, okay.
So the running joke that I havewith people is you know, if you
want to know anything aboutObamacare, I'm your girl.
I can break this down for youbecause I spent lots of money
understanding it and lookinginto it and seeing how it
affects America.
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In that time, today's day,today's health care, I was
thinking to myself like, wow, Idon't know very much about the
healthcare policies of today.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Okay, right.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Even though I got my training all those years ago.
Today it doesn't hold upbecause I never continued the
education to keep up with theupdates and the policies.
Yeah, and I feel like goingthrough books like this is like
continuing education for yourmarriage.
Just because you got married ayear ago, five years ago, 10
years ago, doesn't mean youstill retained the updated
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information of how we wentthrough seasons, of how your
person grew, of how we'vedeveloped and evolved.
You still have to constantlycontinue to educate yourself so
that your marriage can berelevant and recent and really
just help thrive in today's time.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And so that's our encouragement, for this series
was to provide you with a couplebooks to hey, let's go back and
get some continuing educationcredits for our marriage, right,
let's go back and make surethat we're on the right path,
that we're in the same flow,that, even though our marriage
feels great right now, let's dosome investing so that it feels
great continually.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
It grows great continually.
I feel like I'm going tobutcher this, but C-E-C.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Continuing Education Credit.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
For the S-C-S.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
For Serious Couple Series.
Yes, all right, you did that.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I did it.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So, without further ado, let's get into what this
week's book is.
Yes, drum roll please, selena,that's your drum roll, wait let
me have my throat dry, okay.
Okay, sip the coffee.
Okay Ding, I can't do it.
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This week's book is Prep formarriage.
I brought the book because it'sgot five authors and a general
editor.
I'm not.
I'm not even gonna go for thesenames david, brent, jeff and
lloyd come on, give them somecredit david boy, brent nelson,
jeff schulte and lloyd shadrack.
What a cool name preparing forMarriage.
This is a great book.
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Blessed Our Marriage in so manyways.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
This is from the Family Life publication.
So if you know Family Life,they're also affiliated with the
Weekend and Remember they havea podcast, they do a ton of
stuff, so this is through theiravenue 100% Christian-based.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Learn about God's.
Let's read this part.
Learn about God's.
Let's read this part.
Learn about God's uniqueblueprints for marriage.
Discern God's will for yourrelationship Handle your
finances.
I go slow here, because that'swhat people always want to talk
about and plan for the future,clarify your roles and
responsibilities.
That was a great section.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
That was very good.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Establish a positive, loving sexual relationship.
Deal with issues, expectations.
Another huge, huge thing wetalk about a lot Expectations
and family histories andevaluate, as a couple, your
readiness for marriage.
Are you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I feel like there's eight chapters to this.
Was there eight?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Let's see, you want me to look at this.
Yeah, let's dig in here.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So, in contrast to the 101 questions to ask before
you get engaged, Kyle and I didthat book before we were engaged
.
Obviously right, but we Keepgoing.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I'll tell you in a second.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Keep going.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I don't want to interrupt you.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
We did this before we were engaged.
So we were very serious, wewere dating, but we were close
enough to know like, okay, we,we know marriage is in our
future.
We just want to make sure we'reoverly prepared for taking the
next step, cause we don't wantto take the next step and not be
prepared.
We did that book.
This book we did immediatelyafter we got engaged.
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Yeah, we started and went slowthis was kind of our premarital
book study that we did before wemet with our pastor and before
we did the actual premaritalpart to marry us.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I laughed because we did this book 2012-ish.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
And then, all of a sudden, you remember that
there's eight chapters.
Yes, how does your brain dothat?
How does your brain rememberthat there's eight chapters in
this book?
I don't know 13 years ago.
Chapters in this book?
I don't 13 years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I don't know, I don't have an answer.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's why I started laughing, because I'm like how
does she remember there's eightchapters?
Like your brain, it gets meevery time.
So yeah, eight chapters.
Appendixes.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
And I think that's why we did it as like a
pre-premarital course, becausewe were like, oh, eight weeks
with our spiritual mentor, thatwould be a great thing to do at
the first part of our engagementseason.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Because if we waited till the end of our engagement
season then you're worried aboutvenues and money and dresses
and all the parties and stufflike that.
So we did this early on to helpus really start to form.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Keep us grounded.
It was to keep us groundedduring the wedding planning.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
We were like, hey, we can get so wrapped up and get
in such a hurry to plan theevent that we get out of sync
with planning our spiritualfuture, planning our physical
connection future.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yes, the marriage part and not just the wedding.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Right.
We did this to avoid getting sowrapped up in the day that we
miss the meaning of the day.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Which is a huge problem that a lot of couples
have.
They think once they getengaged it's like okay game on
wedding and they almost forgetabout this, even to the point
where you go to get premaritalcounseling and when you do that
oftentimes it is with the pastorof your church, but how many
other hats is your pastorwearing and how often can they
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pour into you for an entireseason of this?
Maybe you guys are blessed andyou have a church where this is
in place and there are people,there's a whole ministry that's
really focused on this and thatis one of our desires one day is
to become that for our churchand so helping people and it's
not a bother, it's not an add on.
You're not constantlyrescheduling, but a lot of the
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times the premarital counselingportion in in order is is just
kind of like a stipulation tookay, we have to do this in
order for this person to marryus, you know, and they don't
really carve into the time oflike what does it really take
and really work and iron outthose issues that you might run
across when you go through theseeight chapters.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
So each chapter is set up like this, where it's
based in a biblical truth, right, and then it talks about like
examining really what the Biblemeans by what they're saying
there, and then it gives you acouples project to work out and
work together and ask you realquestions.
It's a workbook style, sothere's fill in the blanks and
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there's thoughts, and thenthere's optional assignments.
Oh yes, those are great so youcan dig deeper and go more into
this topic and get you know, gomore into this topic.
If the topic is a hard one foryou, I'm going to recommend that
you get into this, to theoptional assignment to help you
get deeper in that topic.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I have so many things to say, but I don't know where
you're going to go with this.
That's all right.
We're a team, let's go.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I got one last thing to say about the setup.
There's also a section forcouples who are previously
married so that they can workthrough previous marriage issues
and make sure you don't makethe same mistakes.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Bring baggage into it Right.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Okay, you got so much to say.
Where do you want to go here?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
So I want to ask you specifically what was your
biggest takeaway from doing thisbook.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
That's funny.
You should say that because inpreparing for the episode, I
marked a couple things I wantedto talk about.
Okay, the one thing that Iliked the most was this part
where they were talking aboutroles right and how to be a man.
You know we were talking aboutEphesians 5.
25.
Christ loved the church and gavehimself up for her and there
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was a chart in there about howto be a, you know, a good leader
, a lording leader, a passivenon-leader or a servant leader,
and I thought that, filling outthis chart and really thinking
through how to be a servantleader for my wife, was my
biggest takeaway.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And so in each situation, I still find myself
to this day like how do I be aservant leader in this situation
when you're freaking out andoverwhelmed and stressed or
whatever it is?
How do I serve her to lead thefamily Like servant?
You know how do I wash her feet?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
That's awesome Because how that has helped you
and you've carried it on for ourwhole marriage.
What helped me the most in thisbook is understanding how a
wife is to be a helper andsubmit.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Because when I met that topic in this book, I was
still very much independent,very.
You're not going to tell mewhat to do.
You're not going to take awaymy power.
You're not going to dull myshine Like I'm going to do me
and you're going to do you, andI respect what you do, but
you're also definitely going torespect my shine, like I'm going
to do me and you're going to doyou and I respect what you do,
but you're also definitely goingto respect what I do.
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And so I had to like.
This book helped me understand,from a woman's perspective,
what it meant to be a helper andwhat it meant to submit
willingly and lovingly under theleader authority of a husband.
I want to even say we took vows, we took a part of our wedding
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ceremony from this book yeah,yeah, yeah, we did yeah, there
was a portion of the book thatlike really come on miss memory
trap.
You should have this memorizedit really summarized this
because you know you, when yougo to a wedding, they have the
typical love is patient, love iskind, love does not easily
anger and it's just like, okay,we we hear this all the time,
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but we wanted verses and wewanted scriptures and we wanted
passages that really help ourfamily and friends and us
understand what it is that weare doing.
And there was a paragraph inthis book that was so
beautifully stated.
When a man and a woman cometogether, they choose to love in
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all of these different ways,and from the love that they
choose in all of these differentways, there comes the sacrifice
of themselves to become a newthing that would become them as
one.
I don't know how it's wordedit's in there, but we use that
passage as one of the readingsfor our wedding.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
You got into your favorite part of the book.
I got into my favorite part ofthe book.
Let's dig into the back of thebook Because when I was doing
the show prep, I found anawesome section that I wanted to
, and we should have done this along time ago.
It is the interview.
Couple's interview.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
So you're supposed to , as a premarital interview, a
couple who's been married morethan five years?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And get their.
I think we did this Get theirfeedback.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I think we did this.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Did we interview my parents?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
No.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Your parents took the , so there's another appendix
called the parents questionnaire.
Okay, all of our parents tookthat oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
dictator in chief my father.
Okay, yes, yes.
So one of the good things aboutthis is they ask what would you
like your?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
in-law.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Your kid what would you lock your kid-in-law to call
you?
yeah and my father said dictatorin chief yes and then there was
also you know, if we have kids,what would you like to be
called like?
They had that question.
Yeah, and how was your like,what is your thoughts on love
and what are your thoughts onthis?
And what if your son ordaughter has problems and they
come to you like, what are yougoing to tell them?
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What if your son or daughterhas problems and they come to
you like, what are you going totell them like?
In other words, like, turn themback around and send them back
to their spouse or you knowwhatever.
Whatever, but it was, it wasvery thorough I bet you I have
that email.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, it was written out.
I forgot about they wrote themout, they wrote them out oh we
printed them and they they'reprobably in that wedding
planning binder yeah, I couldsee it being there okay, so
interview questions.
Let's see, I'm only gonna askyou a couple.
There's, there's nine hereyou're gonna ask me nine
questions.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
No, no, I'm only gonna ask you a couple.
I was gonna say, I talk a lot,bro, that'd be a whole another
episode tell me about it thatshould be a good episode.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Oh, maybe that could be a mini, a mini so what asking
some questions all theseinterview questions okay so it's
got like a past, present,future, three sections okay okay
, so what are some of yourfondest memories you have of
your first years of marriage,selena?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
understand this.
In our first years of marriage,which probably a lot of you guys
can you know relate to, we werebroke okay we were broke and we
were really struggling and andwe were just two kids trying to
make our dreams come true, andthat required a lot of just
being focused and not looking tothe right or to the left.
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But I will say that's a word,bro Keep going Okay, keep going
Sorry.
But I will say, before we hadchildren, we did a lot of things
together.
Yeah, we went to the parktogether, we went to the movies
together, we went out to eattogether.
We always went to this dinerall the time to eat.
We, we just hung out like Ifeel like once we were married
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and we didn't have curfews andwe didn't have boundaries, we
were just able to kick it andenjoy each other's company yeah
at all hours of the day and thatwas really fun yeah, stay up
late, wake up early.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So I have two fondest memories.
My fondest memory is of ourfirst years of marriage.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
It was definitely our prayer room yes, oh yes, I
forgot the prayer room.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And how much time we spent in there every morning for
like those first six months wedid, and just figuring out how
to really do that together yes,spiritual intimacy that was an
awesome that was awesome time ofour marriage.
And then the uh second ishonestly our, our fighting in
the beginning I didn't want tobring it up no, it was.
(19:09):
I look back on it with fondmemories because it's funny now
that we matured through that andwe've grown through that and we
learned those lessons, yes, andwe've learned those lessons,
yes, and those were vital to ourgrowth as a couple and getting
through that together, learninghow to fight those are fond
memories.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
That's another book Fight Fair, I think, is the name
of it.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Oh, okay, dropping little nuggets of wisdom, yeah,
all right.
Looking at the present here.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Let's see what are some practical ways you have
found to keep your relationshipwith god a priority in your
marriage and family.
Practical ways keep yourrelation, your relationship with
god, a priority in marriage.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Me personally.
Yeah, I make it in 2025 in thiscurrent season because, it
changes from season to seasondepending on what's going on,
but in this current season 2025,I have made it a point to wake
up early before I do anythingelse in my day, before I work
out, before I do anything.
I've been getting in my wordand I used to do an audio read
(20:13):
through the Bible.
I did that twice.
I did that for two years.
I read the Bible twice.
But now I'm getting back to thephysical word and there's
something about being in thepapers and writing the notes and
seeing the context and flippingback to seeing the
cross-reference and just reallyfully digesting and chewing on
the word.
(20:33):
And so I've been doing that andyou have been joining me.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
We have been doing that together, so now we're
doing it together.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
It used to be just me , and then you would see me.
But then you were like I'mgoing to sit here too, and now
we're both reading and studyingthe word together, and I
encouraged you to bust out yourphysical word as well.
And so now we both have ourBibles cracked open and we're
both studying together, andthat's been a beautiful thing.
(21:01):
We're not really talkingconversing as much, because
we're just it's our personaltime, it's our personal time,
but we're doing the personaltime together and now, like if a
kid comes down in the morning alittle earlier than expected,
they see us in our word and Iknow that that is going to have
a lasting impact.
I remember when my parents werereading the Bible first thing
(21:22):
in the morning before the suncame up.
That's something we used topray together and I definitely I
still pray on my own in myoffice when you guys are all
gone.
I spend a lot of time in prayerand worship In my single by
faith society.
I do a lot of prayer with mygirls in there and so there's a
(21:42):
lot of personal prayer that I dooutside of what my family sees
and that I think helps,contributes to my family dynamic
and me being a good wife.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Good answer, good answer.
Good answer yes, that's so cool.
Any, I don't know any lastthoughts on this book you want
to share.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
This is a very okay for short sweet to the point.
This is a very thorough book tohelp you get your foundation
work in, to get you prepared fora marriage.
Okay, the title is exactly whatit is it's going to help you
prepare for a marriage.
Kyle and I are actually workingon our own premarital course,
(22:22):
called the Love by Faithpremarital course, of course,
and what we want to do is wewant to not only help prepare
you for marriage, but we want tohelp you navigate through your
wedding season, because a lot oftemptation and a lot of stress
falls into that, and we want tobe able to be there for you in
that aspect.
We want to help you with yourgroundwork of keeping it going
(22:43):
through your honeymoon phase.
So there's going to be thatportion of like.
Once the wedding is over, whatthen?
How do you?
What should you focus on?
How do you continue to prepareand set that foundation and
solidify it so that it's thereand it's going to be an awesome
course?
There's an assessment,well-rounded, that we've been
creating to help peopleunderstand.
(23:05):
Okay, what are my strong andweak points and how can we work
on those together?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You left out the part about preparing for ministry.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Oh, yes, of course, and so we're also going to
include.
You know now that two peoplewho serve and love the Lord are
going to become one.
You know how does that now lookin your church setting and in
your ministry setting and indiscipling other people and
other people and couples, youknow, in the future time.
So we really want to just takeall of the things that we have
(23:34):
learned from these books andfrom our studying and compile it
into one big, beautiful coursethat would really help serious
couples not just get to thatplace of I do, but get to a
place of we're one and we'restrong with God and we're going
to do what God is calling us todo in this marriage, and we're
(23:55):
confident and comfortable inknowing what God has called us
to and how to accomplish that.
Yes, so be on the lookout forthat.
That's coming very soon.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
If you're interested in taking part of that, get in
contact with us.
We have all of our links open.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
We're currently in our beta phase of the Love by
Faith premarital course.
So if you are a couple who isserious and you guys are
interested in becoming a betacourse taker, please contact us
and we will do some behind thescene work with you guys at a
reduced cost rate and you guyswill get all of the mentoring
(24:34):
and support from us as we goalong and continue to prepare
this course for the rest of theworld.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
We, selene and I, love by Faith are out here to
help marriages grow, helpcouples do what God has called
them to do, help them live forChrist the way God has called us
to to make disciples to befilled with the Holy Spirit and
to go into the community andmake an impact.
And so this is just anotherbuilding block, in that it's
(25:02):
bigger than the playbook.
It's bigger than just aquestionnaire or a workbook that
you fill in the blanks.
It's doing life together.
Yes, that's what we're about.
Yes, because this Christianwalk isn't solo, it isn't two
against the world.
It's doing life together.
Yes, that's what we're about.
Yes, because this Christianwalk isn't solo, it isn't two
against the world.
It's a team, it's a church,it's a village that is working
together for one mission.
This is just another way for usto really solidify that and to
(25:25):
walk out our calling, walk outour ministry for what God has
called us to do.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Amen.
I love what you said there,because anyone can just go ahead
and get these books and weencourage you to go ahead and
get these books.
But if you are looking forsomeone to do this life with, if
you are looking to be discipledin this particular ministry
because marriage is a ministry,right?
So if you're looking to bediscipled in that ministry that
you guys are passionate aboutpursuing, then this is why the
(25:52):
Love by Faith premarital coursewould be a great fit for you.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
That's it.
We've said what we need to say.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And-.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Go ahead and.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It's the last episode before a spring break.
Oh, spring break.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I'm dancing for spring break.
The idea of the weatherbreaking is what I'm dancing for
.
I can't wait.
I got so many yard projectsthis summer we do.
We have a lot of yard projects.
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
We have a lot of spring things going on, but we
are taking the next two weeks ofMarch off.
Of course, if you guys havebeen following us since day one,
then you guys know that we'renot really going away.
We have a little couple bonusepisodes that are going to come
your way in between, but for themost part we are just so
appreciative that you guys arehanged out with us all winter
(26:39):
long and we will see youthoroughly, uh, in april with a
whole new series, new plays inthe playbooks that will be
coming your way and more ofKyle's shenanigans.
Come on.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I got a behind-the-back double play
going on the playbook next April.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
What does that even mean?
Double back, double play.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Behind-the-back double play.
What is?
That it's a baseball reference,because we're getting into
spring training season.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Oh, I see.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
The guys caught it.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Okay, guys who like baseball caught it.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Let's pray.
Let's get me out of here.
I got to go to work.
Oh my gosh, Lord, we aregrateful for this space.
Lord, we're grateful for yourcalling on our lives.
We're grateful for the coupleswho take your calling seriously
and who take your calling andwalk it out by faith.
Lord, we pray to be your lightin our communities, to be your
light in our homes and to beyour light in our homes and to
(27:32):
be your light in our workplaces.
We just pray for guidance, Lord.
We pray for your Spirit to befilling and overflowing through
us, Lord.
Each day, Lord, we pray for themarriages, the couples who are
serious, who are listening tothis, that they would abide in
you, Lord, that they would takethis instruction, take this
wisdom offered and apply it.
And we just give you glory forany of the outcomes, all of the
(27:56):
outcomes.
Lord, we give you glory forthis life In Jesus's name, amen.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Amen.
Thank you guys so much forwatching.
If you're on YouTube, pleaselike, share and subscribe.
If you're listening to us onApple or iHeartRadio or even
Spotify, then give us afive-star review so that more
couples like you can find us andthey can learn how to love by
faith.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
She took my line.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Really.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
You closed with love, by faith.
That's perfect.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
No, I say that every single time.
I haven't memorized at thispoint what I say.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Way to go, man.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
It's the call to actions, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Love by faith, y'all.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Love by faith, faith y'all, love by faith y'all.
We hope you have a great restof your march, enjoy your spring
.
We will see you again in fullepisode mode in april, and we'll
see you then all right, bye,bye what I'm doing goofy faces
for your cover picture.
I'm not going to use any of thegoofy faces.
Have you seen the other bookepisode?
(28:57):
I put the picture of the book.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Oh no, I didn't see that.
I didn't see that.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Well, that explains why you didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I listened to them.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I don't watch the video.
Did you give us a five-star?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
review.
Yes, when, twice?
Really yes, really yes, okay,one on spotify, one on apple.
Go away, come on, what is this?
The inquisition?
We've come to the same pointthat we come to every week I'm
not leaving.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
You're not leaving before me.
Why not?
Because I have to go see younext.
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