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Are you just starting with crystals?
Or maybe you have a whole collection but
aren't sure how to use them? Join four
crystal nerds, healers, workers, and lovers for crystal
confab, a casual chat about all things crystals.
Welcome to this week's episode of crystal confab.
We are so excited to be talking about
this crystal today, and I think Nicholas is
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extremely
excited.
We've talked about stones of nobility in the
last few weeks. We've talked about sapphires. We've
talked about ruby. And so, of course, we
must, otherwise, Nicholas would probably threaten to leave
the show, talk about emerald. And that's exactly
what we're talking about today.
Joining me is Kyle and Nicholas, and we
are talking about
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one of the what I really love about
Emerald is that it's part of a family
called the Beryl family. And I just think
of a bunch of old women sitting around
knitting called the Beryl's
and that type of thing. But people may
not realize that some of our other much
loved crystals such as acmarin,
heliodor,
and morganite,
they're all part of the beryl file family.
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Aren't they,
Kyle?
Absolutely. The beryl family is all beryllium silicates,
and they are
beautiful in their perfect formation. They are all
hexagonal,
and your pure
colorless
beryl is called goshenite,
originally found in Goshen,
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The United States. Is that I don't know
exactly where it is. I've forgotten. Nicholas should
be able to let me not know.
I but I know it was
named after where it was found. This is
an etched Brazilian piece, really interesting, and totally
colorless. You'd think it was quartz.
Then you have Heliodor,
yellow, named for the sun god.
I love Heliodor and aquamarine
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because they're both colored by iron,
and it is one ion
of iron difference that changes the color from
blue to yellow, which is really cool. And
I can actually show you in this
aquamarine that goes into heliodor from Namibia. I
love to call it aquadore.
You can call it whatever you want. Then
we have red barrel. Red barrel comes from
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the Wawa Mountains, which I just love to
say, which is too much fun.
Definitely the rarest and most expensive of your
barrels. It will cost you several tens of
thousand dollars
a carat cut.
And then a really rare interesting one, black
barrel.
Weird, included,
kind of interesting. There is also a mashish,
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barrel, which is a really dark, dark blue
barrel that you find in Brazil that actually
changes color when it comes out of the
Earth.
And then there's even orange barrel and green
barrel that you find out there as well,
and it's just an amazing family.
And they're strong gems. Remember, barrels are eight
on the hardness, so they're good sturdy gems
that actually last well in jewelry. So look
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for all of the colors of the rainbow,
please.
And do you find,
Kyle, the,
the barrels are good as a family for
something in particular?
I literally have all of my barrels in
one grid together. They all live together in
one grid, and they all access all of
the elements, and they connect to fae, and
they connect
to light and joy and all of this
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really uplifted energy. I actually have a crystal
skull carved, two in morganite,
three in emerald, two in
aquamarine, and two in heliodor as well. I
have a full collection of skulls carved
in this energy, and I really love that
element where you get water, you get fire,
you get earth, you get air, you get
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it all coming in together, and it really
is empowering. And I think it's a great
follow on from, you know, last
week talking about everything coming together. Maybe pop
your barrels in.
Yeah. I love that idea. And it's funny
you talk about the elemental beings. I find
the barrels to be probably the best family
group for bringing in elemental energy. I love
either Hyliodor or Goshenite for the Fey realms.
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I love Acrebrine. It's said to be one
of the favorite,
stones of the Merfolk.
I think, big fight is really great or
red barrel is really great for,
dragon energy.
It's got real power in it. And then,
of course, emerald is really great for gnome
energy, and that will kind of come unpacked
as we talk about this.
But I think me and Kyle are just
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torturing,
Nicholas off camera at the moment because he's
just like, let me talk about Emerald, and
we're just having a a a dialogue here.
Nicholas,
tell us all about why you love Emerald
and why it's we I asked Nicholas if
you had a a ranking top, but it's
in your top family. Is that right?
Yeah. Yeah. I'm, you know, I I'm sure
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all of us being in the public sphere
working with crystals, we get asked on a
pretty regular basis, what is your favorite crystal?
What's your top five? And
and I have favorites for different reasons at
different times. My my favorite thing to collect,
hands down, is quartz because you'll never get
bored. It's what started my collection.
My favorite thing to work with therapeutically for
me in my journey has been a rhodonite.
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My favorite thing just for the sheer beauty
of it is petersite, but the stone whose
mythology and magic just
floors me every time I I get a
chance to, like, have that intimate connection to
it and its story
is emerald.
And
what a magical and subversive stone it has
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been throughout history.
So I'm gonna give us, like, the short
version of of the the history to today,
because I really wanna, like, jump into this,
like, deeper symbolism that
that I've experienced with emerald. We get emerald
in English
from French,
which is, you know, derived from Latin,
which comes from Greek,
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which ultimately comes from even older roots. But
in Greek, it just meant
greenstone.
So our ancient emeralds, much like our ancient
sapphires and our ancient rubies, were just things
that color.
And what we find in emerald
is
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a lot of history that connects it to
the natural world because
green things grow from the Earth. Emeralds are
green and found in the Earth.
They're extraordinarily
rare, true. Emeralds are formed
with tiny little bits of trace chromium in
them. There's some debate. Some gemological institutions
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will
will honorarily
allow barrel colored by vanadium to be called
barrel or to be called emerald.
Others
absolutely will not. So I'm I'm in the
will not camp.
But,
the the magic of emerald is in part
linked to the fact that they don't form
like most other barrels.
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A lot of our gem quality barrels, we're
gonna find in igneous environments.
We're gonna find them in pegmatites,
which are think of granite, but with much
larger components because it because it cooled
so much more slowly and gave time for
these crystals to form in very high quality
gems. And a lot of our really good
gem materials in general come from pegmatites,
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but not emeralds. They form in metamorphic environments.
We're gonna find them largely in schist, occasionally
in in,
some other metamorphic rocks. Very rarely, there's some
there's a well known Chinese deposit that is
formed in a primary and igneous rock.
But what is happening is
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the beryllium
essential to the make of of beryl, it's
a beryllium aluminum cyclosilicate,
and the chromium that gives it that rich
green color almost never occur together.
So what we need is for
literally the making of mountains, the folding of
landscapes in half, the doubling of them over,
the squeezing and stretching.
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And then the icing on the cake is
a little bit of extra hydrothermal activity going
on. And in those little pockets in the
in between,
we can bring together these other ingredients, the
beryllium and the chromium with the very common,
silicon and oxygen and aluminum and and and
any other trace elements might be in there
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to give us emeralds.
But because of that kind of tortuous and
arduous
history,
geologically speaking, they're usually not very
big, and they're usually not very transparent.
They're often riddled with flaws
of of all different kinds. We usually find
them in,
as as Kyle showed, schistos kind of rock,
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which is a really high grade metamorphism. So
I've got some Brazilian emeralds here in matrix.
This is a gift from my dear friend,
Takeda.
And, you know, when we're really lucky, we'll
find big emeralds or we'll find transparent emeralds.
Sometimes we find them both at the same
time. My my largest is this one here
from Ethiopia, and it's got this beautiful biotite,
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you know, relic of the schist that came
out of here. And this is unusually large
for for an emerald. It's not unusually high
quality.
I I could afford
only one of those modifiers, and it was
not quality, so I went for for quantity
over quality for once.
But emeralds in history have been have been
used, like, true emeralds, have been used since
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the Neolithic era in Northern Africa, and they
were fashioned into at least one headdress or
crown that has been found.
There's some rough dark emeralds in it. There's
also bone and natural resin holding the whole
thing together.
We see inventory records from Babylon that record
the sale of emeralds around six thousand years
ago. We can't be sure they're the same
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species, but they were a precious green stone.
We've got large scale mining of emeralds that
takes place for the very first time in
Egypt in the mines at Wari Sekait,
which under the kind of Roman Hellenistic occupation
period was named was renamed
Mons Muragnus or Mount Emerald because of how
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rich the emeralds were there.
And this was around 1,500 BCE, so like
3,500
ago.
We find stones
there that were buried with the dead and
worn as jewelry by the living. Inscribed stones
were used as talismans. These were deeply
spiritual,
divinely touched gemstones.
Those Egyptian mines were exploited by the Roman
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and the Byzantine empires, and they they spread
like wildfire. But, eventually, they were exhausted.
We find some emeralds in Austria and the
Havertzal region.
More recently, we get them from places like
Pakistan, Afghanistan, China, Brazil,
Zimbabwe,
and and
this this very small pocket that was quite
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prolific for a moment, up in Ethiopia. But
by far, the finest emeralds that that we
tend to find
are from Colombia, and they definitely changed,
the course of
of of emeralds history.
But
the
availability of those Emeralds is linked to things
like
colonialism,
imperialism,
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the
extraction of
wealth via human labor, and the subjugation of
brown and indigenous folks. So it is complicated,
and emeralds are a product of this very
complicated history.
Folklorically,
the the magic of them is linked to
things like the power of Venus,
in
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in Western European and Northern European,
witch folklore, we see that the the locus
of the the
the mythical
site where the witch's sabbat takes place is
sometimes called Mount Venus. It is also occasionally
called
Mount Emerald, Mount Smaragdas.
In some of these,
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trial accounts,
we see that the gem is associated with
the god Thoth in Egypt who is the
father of writing
and measure and calendars
and magic.
And and so there's there's so much of
this magical lore that is wrapped up in
this stone, but there there are a couple
of, like, big myths. We can't unpack the
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whole stories on all of them, but
but they are etched indelibly in our psyche,
and they're also very magical.
We have this story of an emerald that
is said to have fallen
from the crown of the most beautiful of
all angels.
And when it fell to earth,
some say it shattered. Some say it stayed
whole and was carved into a great big
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tablet upon which were written the instructions for
the alchemical art.
In another version, it becomes the holy grail.
And yet another, it's set in a ring
that is gifted to King Solomon that he
uses to command the spirits that build
the the first temple.
There there are so many of these stories
that link emerald to magic. And in the
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modern
kind of new age interpretations of Emerald, we
see a really strong connection to this Venusian
quality of love.
And not just
love as a romantic
situation, but love is a force that changes
matter itself.
I really love an interpretation that comes to
us from a practice called gemstone energy medicine
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or sometimes just
gym therapy, which sounds like it should mean
the same thing as just saying crystal healing.
I assure you it does not. But in
this specific practice, Emerald is thought of as
like the archetypal carrier
of the green ray, the ray that represents
the,
ability for things to materialize,
to come into existence. And the, like, deeper
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message of the green ray is that
everything we touch is a product of divine
love.
Emerald is considered a master healer because love
is the force that heals everything from the
inside out.
And when I compare that to the midst
of the Holy Grail, the Emerald Tablet, Lucifer's
Crown,
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I I see this
kind of storyline that emerges.
And we live
in a world
where if we just listen to the loudest
voices in any room coming from whatever medium,
we hear messages that we aren't good enough.
We aren't pretty enough. We aren't wealthy enough.
We aren't successful enough. I'm no longer young
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enough. I'm also not old enough. I'm not
enough in any way.
And it's really hard to feel like you
matter when you aren't enough. It is so
hard to feel worthy of just about anything,
let alone success and love and fulfillment in
life.
And Emerald
inverts this narrative in a really big way.
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The message of Emerald is the message of
radical self love.
Emerald tells us that
there's nothing specific you have to do to
be worthy of love. There's there's no action
that you can take to earn it. There's
no milestone that
that makes you meritorious.
You exist. That's it. Therefore,
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you are worthy of love. You matter because
you are matter.
And that idea of matter is is linked
up to in in Latin, it comes from
the same root as the word mother.
We are we're born
as products of this divine love, this unconditional
love that moves mountains to birth these sacred
green stones.
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It is maybe the love and the worthiness
of a rebel angel who decided
not to start a war in heaven,
but to be a symbol of light. This,
for after all, literally means light bearer,
and brought that light from the spiritual into
the material to become the soul inhabiting the
matter that is our planet.
This
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is similar to the myth of the planetary
logos, the embodiment of our earth who in
Vedic principles is described as Sanath Kumara,
a serpent like being who fell from the
heavens, who descended from the planet Venus to
take up residence in the middle of the
earth, who is the middle
of
the Earth, who is the king of the
Nagas,
the the kind of serpent like spirits who,
among other things,
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hoard precious gems, including emeralds.
We see in the crown of Lucifer the
opportunity to be our own light bearers, to
be crowned sovereign through reclaiming
the worthiness of love. And when we love
ourselves that radically, we go, well, you know
what? If I can if I can change
the way I feel about this, if I
can change myself,
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can't I change the world too?
I believe in a world, me as Nicholas,
I believe in a world where each of
us
is owed nothing less than
that sense of fulfillment,
that sense of worth,
that sense
of hope that comes from knowing
you are loved in that way. And I
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aim to see a world that is more
just and equitable
through that power of love.
And that is not an easy task.
Climbing Mount Venus
to to reach the summit and see that
change is scary, but we don't have to
do it alone because we do it together
in love. And and when we do,
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we find the tablet there that has the
instructions for alchemy. We find the holy grail
said to have been carved from the self
same emerald, and it is the crucible in
which
alchemy takes place.
And the secret here is that it's not
really about finding a magical cup
or
a rock with some writing on it or
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a crown with some fabulous gem.
The emerald that is all of these things
is the emerald of our heart. It is
the gem that we are. It is the
light we radiate into the world.
It is the magic we live and breathe
each moment if only we could remember it.
And if more of us do,
it's gonna be a better
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world. So that's why I
I I I love what you've shared there,
and I think it's really quite poignant at
the moment about, you know, I I love
that term, you matter because you are a
matter. That that that's brilliant.
And I heard a really great quote in
the last few days about,
it it's not about wokeness.
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It's about kindness.
And it's just about being kind to one
another, but also being kind to yourself. And
I think what you've just shared there is
Emerald does that on on a really profound,
but also really simple way. Would you agree,
Nicholas?
Yeah. I mean,
a a question I ask myself a lot
lately and one I'm I'm endeavoring to ask
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myself more is,
when when faced with an option, you know,
like
commenting
on social media,
replying
to an email that I think is outrageous,
Is this answer
going to be perceived as loving? Is this
answer going to generate more kindness in the
world? Is this answer going to
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maintain or spread that flame of radical love?
And sometimes the answer is get the f
out of here, and that is the kindest
thing you can do because
someone else's unkindness
is harming more people.
And other times, it's swallowing your pride and
saying,
thank you so much for your message.
Or even better yet, to the strangers on
the Internet saying nothing at all Mhmm. Because
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because I can have that fulfillment and that
light and that love within me, I don't
I don't have to go
exercise that anywhere where it's not wanted or
welcome.
But it's also
standing up for the people you care about,
yourself,
your loved ones,
the marginalized people of the world. Like, we're
all in this together.
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Why not try to make the world a
kinder
place? Why not? Exactly. I'd love to expand
also on what you shared, with that aspect
of healing and love as well. You mentioned
the angel, Lucifer.
I've found and, again, we say often on
confab that we're not right. We we just
share our perspectives. And I've always matched
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the four noble crystals of diamond,
sapphire,
emerald, and ruby to the four archangels.
So I I pair ruby with Michael,
Sapphire with Gabrielle,
Diamond with the real, and so Raphael with
Emerald.
And I find Raphael a really interesting angel
because at first sight, you go, he's the
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healing angel or and that's the angel you
call upon whenever you you you're sick or
you need healing in that way.
But each of these angels is also a
governor of one of the different magical elements.
And so Raphael is also of the element
of air.
So what we have here is we have
an angel that's to do with healing and
physical healing, but then also air, which is
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to do with the intellect.
Now when we look at Emerald, it's green.
It has this we've been talking about this
earthly kind of quality about it, but then
has associations
with auth and wisdom as well.
What I love for someone working in the
health industry and the holistic healing industry
is as you know, maybe we can thank
Louise Elle Hay on there are probably people
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who preceded her,
but it's coming into
modern understanding now is that our mental state
and our physical state are interlinked.
And I love this idea of working with
Emerald and working with Rafael, not just saying,
can you fix my sore knee? Can you
stop these migraines? But looking at, okay. What's
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happening on
a surface mental level? Is there too much
stress in my life? And is that causing
different ailments in my body? But, also, there
are some really great references. As I said,
Louise L. Hey. You can Heal Your Life
is kind of the
the the archetype of book, but Ina Seagal's
done work on it. There's another great book
called Barometer of the Soul.
And these help us to understand, well, okay.
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Why are these things manifesting in my body
and not in someone else's body? Why is
one person smoking like a chimney and that
they live into a hundred and the next
person smoking like a chimney and dies of
lung cancer at 35
type of thing? And I find Emerald is
this great amulet helping us with our healing
and taking responsibility
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of our healing. We live in a culture
and there is a shift
where we
hand over the power of our health
and our healing
to an expert
and or to a pharmaceutical. And we're like,
can you just give me a tablet that
will fix it?
But what you'll find a lot of the
time with this is that
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pharmaceuticals
and I'm not here to bag pharmaceuticals, but
often what they do is they band aid
a check an issue. They don't
they don't look at the root cause.
And true healing, as with whether we're talking
about physical healing, mental healing, or emotional healing,
or spiritual healing,
encourages us to dive deeper and learn from
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that rather than just Band Aid that. I
think Emerald brings in this really grounded energy,
as Nicholas said so beautifully, a loving energy
and a wise energy. Now we can see
that as the angel Raphael,
or we can just see it purely as
that crystal
manifestation
of Emerald.
And I think it's it is an amazing
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healing crystal for all types of healing. And
it is maybe because of its price,
not
celebrated as much. But, again, as we've said,
I have a tumbled emerald that I use
a lot that would have cost me 20
Australian dollars, not much at all type of
thing. So it's really beautiful in that healing
work. I also wanna just kinda throw in
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where I use Emerald the most
is actually with travel.
And,
so Rafael, being the angel of air as
well, is is sometimes associated with travel.
So I have a bit of a ritual.
I I fly. I I'm off to Europe,
next week, and I come to America once
a year. And, you know, I I'm often
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in planes, and it doesn't matter how many
times you get on a plane. I don't
think anyone feels totally comfortable. It's a little
bit scary in that way. So we want
that protection, and we also want that protection,
you know, as when we're in foreign lands
and unusual areas out of our comfort zone
as well. So I've got into the habit
of I always have an emerald,
just a tumbled stone that goes in my
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luggage.
And I basically just say a little kind
of incantation as I pop it in there
and and summon that to make this emerald
and my luggage end up where I end
up type of thing. So that kind of
protection of luggage. So if you're a little
bit worried about that, you know, that can
be really great. That normally sits in this
little backpack. So if you've ever seen me
in person, I'm always carrying around this black
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backpack, which has all my essential oils in
it.
And, funnily enough, I had some of my
most precious essential oils when I went on
a recent trip.
And I still don't know how I did
it, but I just left it at the
airport. I went and got in an Uber.
I I I was busy saying goodbye to
people and organizing people in suitcase, and I
left one with with rare essential oils that
I can't get my hands on again.
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But luckily enough, the best place to leave
a bag is at the airport because no
one's going to pick up a bag that's
just sitting there because they are worried. So
luckily, it was picked up by security, and
I got it back. But that was the
emerald kind of working. But I also have
a ritual that I do every time I'm
flying.
So this is my emerald ring that I
wear. I wear emerald on this hand. I
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wear nuummite, which I consider to be one
of the most powerfully protective rings on my
other hand, and I wear a falcon's eye
or a blue tiger's eye pendant.
And what just after the safety demonstration, you
normally taxi and ready for takeoff. I put
my finger on here on this ring, and
I basically just say a little prayer to
Rafael saying, please look after the well-being of
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myself and everyone else on this flight. May
we get to our destination with no major
hiccups and that type of thing as well.
And so far, so good. But what I
found really, really interesting
is with turbulence.
If ever there's turbulence on a plane, I
will pop my finger straight on this ring,
and I visualize Rafael grabbing the plane
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and stabilizing it. And I find as soon
as I do that, it's almost as though
the turbulence will keep going, but it's downgraded
a little bit. And I I visualize Rafael
kind of steadying the plane through that turbulence
as well.
What's really interesting though,
here in Australia,
I found that this technique works a lot
better with Qantas and Virgin
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than it does with Jetstar.
So I don't know.
And I guess what what who who's a
a discount carrier in The States, Nicholas? Is
it like JetBlue?
No. They're they're quite nice. Spirit or Frontier.
Yeah. So I I I would say if
I was traveling around America, it would work
better with something like with with Delta or
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United,
but but not with Spirit type of thing.
So I I just think angels actually discriminate,
but it does seem Rafael does when it
comes to helping out with turbulence in that
way. But, you know, if you are a
bit of a nervous traveler,
I often get asked what crystals are good
for when you're traveling.
Those three when I'm actually on a plane,
but Emerald, I find to be really, really
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great for that travel aspect as well. So
anytime you wanna work with Rafael, and I
really encourage you to kind of dive a
little bit deeper on the realm that Rafael
can help with as well.
He's also the governing angel of the planet
Mercury.
But I do find emerald is very much
a Venetian stone, so that's the joy of
correspondences
as well. Nicholas.
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I I I think
we could also mention that in Vedic astrology,
the primary gem of Mercury is emerald. So
it it is a stone that gets
it it gets a lot of attributes over
history. In some western occult traditions, it's the
primary gem of Saturn.
So it does have these kind of serious
Saturnian qualities associated with the material realm. It's
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got the loving tenderness of Venus, and then
it moves. Literally, it's made by the moving
of tectonic plates.
So, yeah, I think it embodies all these
things, and and that really underscores why it's
such a great travel gem.
Yeah. So it it's amazing for love and
healing. It's amazing for travel,
but it's also, I guess, probably pretty good
for abundance as well when you say car.
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Yeah. Let's change it up a little bit.
I'm gonna talk about abundance. What does that
mean? This is a really this is probably
my favorite emerald. This is a twinned emerald
on schist and it comes from the gold
fields of Western Australia.
I just love. It's not big but it
is mighty powerful in its vibration and
I like to as we've spoken about, emerald
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is one of the archetypal stones and I've
touched on this with ruby sapphire. It also,
for me, touches on the archetype of certain
people. And for me, when I've noticed emerald
wearers,
emerald wearers are individuals on their own schedule
and they are people that have plenty of
time, plenty of money, plenty of everything.
I find emeralds
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to add a lushness
and abundance, a luxurious
energy, and it allows us to have and
when I think about it as a visual,
I'm always put into a rainforest.
It gives me this, like, green on green
on green. And there's actually a term in
gemology that's really important when it comes to
emeralds, and it's
which is that they look like a garden.
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When you look into them, they are just
so amazing. They have different phases of inclusions.
They'll have gas bubbles. They'll have, water. They'll
have three phases,
and there is so much inside of them.
And when you think about a rainforest, it
is abundant. There are so many different layers
of green. There are so many different plants.
There are insects galore. There is
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the hierarchy all working together, and it's so
much.
And that's abundance. Right? And it's all working
together
until we interfere. If we get involved as
humans, generally, we mess it up. But if
we leave it, the rainforests
are literally the lungs of the Earth.
They are the things that keep this planet
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breathing. Right?
When we have abundance,
everyone
is
sharing in that abundance. Everyone gets to benefit
from that abundance. So don't hold yourself back
from having. This idea of abundance and money,
let's change it up. It's not always about
money. It could be about time, friendship, connection,
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love, support.
Abundance is
lots.
Right? It's an overflow.
You don't necessarily need an overflow of money.
It can be useful, but often, you know,
like moss to a flame, it can draw
more problems. More money, more problems. And it's
important to think, what do I actually need
more of?
I need enough money. This has been my
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last several years,
and I've worked with it so intensely is
I have enough money. I don't need more
because
I will probably spend more because I'm still
trying to
do less. Like, my my thing over the
last few years has been about doing less
to achieve more, about being more efficient with
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our energy. Those that lie in the jungle
and live in the jungle use their energy
efficiently. There are nocturnal creatures. There are daytime
creatures. Those that hunt hunt quietly and slowly,
and they have enough. And they have enough
as a month as a part of the
whole that has enough. Right? And I think
that's a really important thing with Emerald. And
as Nicholas said, like, it's love. Everything is
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love. Abundance,
it's all
connected in the same sort of way. And
I found this was my very first
little crystal skull, Brazilian emerald. You can only
just see, like, little bits of green throughout
it, and it was very much, let's go
on a journey into the jungle. Let's actually
go out and see that there is so
much there are so many opportunities for you.
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There is
not a lack.
It changes that idea from lack to there
is. There is an opportunity. There is a
redirection. There is a chance for something. There
is something that I can bring into myself.
I'm not always going to be stuck in
I can't.
And that is that mentality of I am
not allowed to have enough. I can't. There's
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no way forward. We get kind of
trapped within ourself, and it's normal. The universe
is kind of bombarding us. But if we
stop and go for a walk into the
jungle, into the forest,
listen. There's harmony there. Right? It can seem
chaotic at first, but when we stop, everything
is working. When we stop in our own
lives, yes, there's all these things happening. There's
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all these
predators and all these things trying to fight
for the light to live, but they all
live. They all exist.
When we tell ourselves we have enough and
we're allowed to have,
we automatically change
what comes to us, and we can bring
more into our lives. There was a
big lesson that I had with this where
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I was using time, and I was busy,
so I had no time. And I was
always busy, so I had no time. And
it was this cycle of being busy. And
I was being grateful for being busy because
it meant I was working and I was
earning. And I was like, but I don't
have time. And I don't have time. And
then the universe went,
you want time? I'm like, yeah. I really
want time. And it went, okay. Here's burnout.
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I'm gonna put you on your bottom. I'm
gonna force you to stop, and I'm going
to make you
have time. And all of a sudden, I've
had all of this time, and I've been
able to utilize my time better. I've been
able to,
like, stop and do enough
with my day. I utilize my energy more
efficiently to get what I need to get
done done. Instead of trying to, like,
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do so much throughout,
do this.
Spread it throughout. I have a work schedule
that now has days off in between my
days because
I need a day to recover when I
do something really physical.
And so I now know that I have
time and I'm earning enough. I'm paying my
bills. Right? It's
the mentality of, like, I need to be
busy because I need to earn money and
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I need to survive has changed to I'm
working enough. I'm earning enough. I'm taking care
of my physical vessel because that's what it
needs and that's my priority,
and that's allowing me to build up to
more. Right? It's that cyclical nature. There is
sometimes
we have lots and lots, and we're doing
lots and lots, and sometimes it's less and
we're doing less, but we're still abundant in
our choices. We still have enough for us.
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And I think that is one of the
core messages with Emerald that has been for
me specifically is
there is enough
of whatever it is that you want,
whatever it is that you need,
there is enough of it there.
Just, like, bring it into yourself. Like, draw
it in. Allow yourself to
to have. Allow yourself to,
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like
I like to visualize myself,
as,
I can't remember her first name, Adani, the
Indian billionaire lady that wore all the emeralds
to her son's
wedding
last year. Like, those like, I just like
to visualize myself
in that when I'm working with my little
emerald, and it's like, I'm abundant. I'm a
billionaire. I'm so wealthy, and I am doing
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enough.
I'm so glad you took this approach when
talking about abundance with Emerald because I think
a lot of people when they do think
of abundance, they're like, give me the money.
It it's gonna bring in more of that
financial wealth as well. And I love the
example you talked about with, you know, business
versus time and and work versus time.
And I know, you know, reflecting on my
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last few years, how I've made decisions in
my life for both money and career,
at the detriment probably of friendships because I've
I've you know, sometimes I just don't have
enough time to catch up with friends or
nurture those friendships.
And I love this idea of the Emerald,
helps us work out what is enough.
And I I wonder if that's even reflected
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in its energy being hexagonal,
and six is often seen as a really
harmonious and balancing number between, you know, finding
balance between that work, life, friend, personal life,
you know, all those different things that we
need to balance.
How do we find that harmony? I think
emerald could be a really key crystal for
this, would you say, Kyle?
One thousand percent. I think all of the
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beryl family with that hexagonal shape. I think
apatite, beryl,
quartz, even though it's trigonal, they still when
they form hexagonally, when you get those six
sided
crystals, when you get that barrel,
like, there's just this
secure
strength and balance,
and
I just don't think anything compares to the
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way emerald works. I think green garnet comes
close but I don't think anything
compares to how emerald is. So don't worry
about it being clear. Don't worry about it
being like perfectly transparent.
Just work with whatever emerald you can connect
to. My very first piece and the piece
that I had for the longest time is
this little tumble.
And it's innocuous,
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and it was a pocket piece that I
had in that little crystal pocket every day
for so, so long.
And I think we get too hell bent
on, you know, size and price, and emerald
is something that skyrocketed
especially over the last five years. Like, it
has gone up, especially gem stuff. And I
think we go, oh, I can't have. And
that in turn is that lesson of emerald
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is no. Yes. I can. Yes. I can
have. I'm just gonna have a cute little
tumble. I'm just gonna have a little piece
in my pocket. I'm just gonna get the
littlest skull that I could find. It's so
cute and so little. Like, it doesn't have
to be big, and it's still gonna bring
a lot to you.
I'm really glad, you know, and maybe this
is great that Ashley is not here this
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week because I did kinda wanna ask you
guys while it's just us guys here together
and no one else is here. But often
I get asked and I often wonder, does
size matter
when When it comes to our crystals, of
course. That's what I mean. And, Kai, would
you say no? Not necessarily? How do you
normally answer that question?
It's never the size. It's how you use
it. Right? It's the intention.
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It's the focus.
There are definitely
some crystals that the bigger they get, the
more energetic you will feel from them. Like,
there is definitely
that thing that comes from bigger pieces, but
you can get so much done with so
little. As we spoke about last week, sorry,
a couple of weeks ago with Jet, like,
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my two pieces has gotten me through fifteen
years of crystal work. Right? We don't have
to have giant pieces of things to achieve
great things. And if you have a small
anything,
add clear quartz
because clear quartz will amplify it, and you
will amplify its energy. So if you can
get a piece of clear quartz to connect
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to something smaller, it'll boost it like a
receptor,
like a amplifier of a radio wave.
Nicholas, does size matter?
Yes. But not necessarily
for the reasons people think it does. I
mean,
no two ways about it. If you have
two examples
of the same crystal and everything else about
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them is identical,
but one is much larger,
you're gonna feel the difference. I mean, I'm
I'm gonna hold up two smokey quartz crystals
for you.
I mean, there's there is no comparison. Right?
And, yes,
size influences
the experience of crystal energy,
but bigger doesn't mean better.
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I like to think of the analogy of
a speaker.
The bigger speaker can be louder.
Louder is not better. It's just louder. There
are applications
where we can work with a small crystal,
and it feels like an intimate whisper, and
that's all we need.
But if you need to get someone's attention
from down the street, you better shout.
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So
when I do bigger work, things that are
not just about me, but about
community, about the planet, about
connecting with people
in in bigger ways.
I like to have the big guns out
for that. I
love working with large crystals.
I I have had at the center of
grids,
crystals that weigh in excess of 2,000 pounds.
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I did not bring them there. Obviously, I
brought the grid to the crystal.
But this is the kind of work that
I have had the the pleasure and privilege
to be able to do over my crystal
journey.
I get to regularly commune with a 30
pound gem quality blue topaz at my day
job and an eight foot tall amethyst bug,
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which scarcely fits
through the door.
And
and I think it's okay to say that
that big crystals are good. There's so much,
I think,
tiptoeing around
the idea that you don't need a big
crystal to do things, and, therefore, they're the
same.
You do not need a big crystal to
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make healing happen, but they're not the same
in the same way that you don't need
to have a big house to have a
fulfilled life.
But
a tiny one bedroom apartment
and a sprawling palatial estate,
they're not the same. So I I think
we should just be transparent and say, you
don't need the big crystal,
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but
but they do feel different.
And that's, of course, only if all the
other parameters are the same. If I have
a teeny tiny gem quality emerald and then
my big honking one that is anything
but gem quality, they don't feel the same
because it's not a one for one comparison.
It's apples to oranges.
So we we do have to
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hold space for the fact that
habit or form,
quality, color, saturation, all of these other things
also impact our experience of crystal's energy. It's
not just size.
And
oftentimes, I'm really happy to go for a
smaller gem of much finer quality
than I am something enormous, but it's also
nice to have both at the same time
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in the case of some of my my
beloved crystals here.
I totally love that. And I think it's
really important that, like,
that whole thing of bigger things can do
bigger things. And I think that's a really
nice way of putting things. And that is
something I discovered at the Natural History Museum
in London. Like, their gem collection,
that big open floor of crystals
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is just something
else. Right?
Can I
just tell you a story about that museum
and that collection,
specifically
about an emerald?
I I did not know as a 30
grown adult
that you could just look at a rock
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and weep
in public when people are growing increasingly concerned.
But the very first time my husband and
I traveled, before we married, my my husband
now and I traveled to to England was
in 2019,
and,
the first full day we had in
in The UK was me teaching a very
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long class. I'd have never actually taught, like,
a whole day crystal class, but the last
crystal we talked about was the the second
to last,
was Red Coral, and we're talking about the
myth of Medusa and, like, this beautiful feminist
retelling of it, and that led into the
magic of Emerald, which, you know, I'm really
passionate about.
And the next day, we go straight to
the Natural History Museum,
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and they've got, you know, like, the old
school
glass boxes filled with rocks, which I love,
but I know to the average person is
not super exciting. So I spent, I don't
know, maybe two and a half hours methodically
going through
every single one
in every box,
taking hundreds of pictures, and then I finally
get to the the vault, they call it,
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the, you know, big, swanky,
fancy exhibit at the end. And I I
make my way around
the exterior part, and then there's, like, little
island in the middle. And the very last
thing that I see on display
is an emerald
specimen
painstakingly
excavated over the process of several years to
remove it from matrix.
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It is a collection of emerald crystals, some
of which are longer than six inches and
gem
quality, and the specimen is called the Medusa.
It's like her snakes emerging from her scalp.
And I tell you, I saw this stone,
and I just wept and wept. And I've
never seen an emerald as beautiful as this
one.
Not in person
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yet. No. That little so that little vignette
of,
is something else. And their collection of diamonds
that they've collected that fluoresce and are all
different colors,
like, is something else.
But it was for me, when we got
down below the crystals, we came down as
big beautiful steps.
Right beneath the geological section
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is like a meter
by meter and a half gypsum cluster.
Huge, huge thing. And I sat with that
thing, and it was like, I'm the one
that's doing all the work in this place.
I am the one that is keeping everything
cleansed and in order. I am the one
that they all need to be thanking.
And I was like, I'm gonna sit with
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you for five minutes. Thank you very much
for your time. So if you go, make
sure you check that one out below because
that is a huge thing that's doing a
lot of amazing work.
Well, regardless of our audience, I'm grateful for
this conversation because I will be in The
UK in exactly two weeks' time,
and that will be somewhere I'm going to
go. And I'll go through the gyps and
and and, you know, thank you for your
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service. Thank you for your service. I'll be
very grateful as well.
So I think, Emerald, we've really kind of
encapsulated. It is such
a amazing crystal.
Maybe people have not gone after it because
they've gone, oh, no. That's too expensive, that
type of thing. And that's why I really
wanted to have that conversation about, you know,
just find something that works for you and
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in your budget and bring that energy in.
It helps with healing. It helps with self
love. It helps with that abundance. It helps
with gravel. It it is really
a a crystal must. And when there are
so many different green crystals, sometimes maybe emerald
get buried amongst the list of other green
crystals you may have in your collection. But
I hope today,
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we've been able to
open your heart, not only to yourself, but
to emerald as well. Now for those that
have written to us and have been concerned
because Ashley,
hasn't been here for three weeks, do not
worry.
It's simply the fact that sometimes when we're
traveling, trying to get all four of us
to talk at the same time can be
a bit of a trouble. I won't be
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here next week, because of my travel commitment,
but we are still committed to contacting every
week and keeping you update with all different
crystals. So as we'll be back next week,
could we take it over from me, to
keep these other two rowdy bunch under control
as well?
Until then, go get your enrolled out, and
we will see you next week. Take care,
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and blessed be.
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Welcome to this week's episode of crystal confab.
We are so excited to be talking about
this crystal today, and I think Nicholas is
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extremely
excited.
We've talked about stones of nobility in the
last few weeks. We've talked about sapphires. We've
talked about ruby. And so, of course, we
must, otherwise, Nicholas would probably threaten to leave
the show, talk about emerald. And that's exactly
what we're talking about today.
Joining me is Kyle and Nicholas, and we
are talking about
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one of the what I really love about
Emerald is that it's part of a family
called the Beryl family. And I just think
of a bunch of old women sitting around
knitting called the Beryl's
and that type of thing. But people may
not realize that some of our other much
loved crystals such as acmarin,
heliodor,
and morganite,
they're all part of the beryl file family.
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Aren't they,
Kyle?
Absolutely. The beryl family is all beryllium silicates,
and they are
beautiful in their perfect formation. They are all
hexagonal,
and your pure
colorless
beryl is called goshenite,
originally found in Goshen,
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The United States. Is that I don't know
exactly where it is. I've forgotten. Nicholas should
be able to let me not know.
I but I know it was
named after where it was found. This is
an etched Brazilian piece, really interesting, and totally
colorless. You'd think it was quartz.
Then you have Heliodor,
yellow, named for the sun god.
I love Heliodor and aquamarine
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because they're both colored by iron,
and it is one ion
of iron difference that changes the color from
blue to yellow, which is really cool. And
I can actually show you in this
aquamarine that goes into heliodor from Namibia. I
love to call it aquadore.
You can call it whatever you want. Then
we have red barrel. Red barrel comes from
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the Wawa Mountains, which I just love to
say, which is too much fun.
Definitely the rarest and most expensive of your
barrels. It will cost you several tens of
thousand dollars
a carat cut.
And then a really rare interesting one, black
barrel.
Weird, included,
kind of interesting. There is also a mashish,
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barrel, which is a really dark, dark blue
barrel that you find in Brazil that actually
changes color when it comes out of the
Earth.
And then there's even orange barrel and green
barrel that you find out there as well,
and it's just an amazing family.
And they're strong gems. Remember, barrels are eight
on the hardness, so they're good sturdy gems
that actually last well in jewelry. So look
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for all of the colors of the rainbow,
please.
And do you find,
Kyle, the,
the barrels are good as a family for
something in particular?
I literally have all of my barrels in
one grid together. They all live together in
one grid, and they all access all of
the elements, and they connect to fae, and
they connect
to light and joy and all of this
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really uplifted energy. I actually have a crystal
skull carved, two in morganite,
three in emerald, two in
aquamarine, and two in heliodor as well. I
have a full collection of skulls carved
in this energy, and I really love that
element where you get water, you get fire,
you get earth, you get air, you get
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it all coming in together, and it really
is empowering. And I think it's a great
follow on from, you know, last
week talking about everything coming together. Maybe pop
your barrels in.
Yeah. I love that idea. And it's funny
you talk about the elemental beings. I find
the barrels to be probably the best family
group for bringing in elemental energy. I love
either Hyliodor or Goshenite for the Fey realms.
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I love Acrebrine. It's said to be one
of the favorite,
stones of the Merfolk.
I think, big fight is really great or
red barrel is really great for,
dragon energy.
It's got real power in it. And then,
of course, emerald is really great for gnome
energy, and that will kind of come unpacked
as we talk about this.
But I think me and Kyle are just
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torturing,
Nicholas off camera at the moment because he's
just like, let me talk about Emerald, and
we're just having a a a dialogue here.
Nicholas,
tell us all about why you love Emerald
and why it's we I asked Nicholas if
you had a a ranking top, but it's
in your top family. Is that right?
Yeah. Yeah. I'm, you know, I I'm sure
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all of us being in the public sphere
working with crystals, we get asked on a
pretty regular basis, what is your favorite crystal?
What's your top five? And
and I have favorites for different reasons at
different times. My my favorite thing to collect,
hands down, is quartz because you'll never get
bored. It's what started my collection.
My favorite thing to work with therapeutically for
me in my journey has been a rhodonite.
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My favorite thing just for the sheer beauty
of it is petersite, but the stone whose
mythology and magic just
floors me every time I I get a
chance to, like, have that intimate connection to
it and its story
is emerald.
And
what a magical and subversive stone it has
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been throughout history.
So I'm gonna give us, like, the short
version of of the the history to today,
because I really wanna, like, jump into this,
like, deeper symbolism that
that I've experienced with emerald. We get emerald
in English
from French,
which is, you know, derived from Latin,
which comes from Greek,
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which ultimately comes from even older roots. But
in Greek, it just meant
greenstone.
So our ancient emeralds, much like our ancient
sapphires and our ancient rubies, were just things
that color.
And what we find in emerald
is
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a lot of history that connects it to
the natural world because
green things grow from the Earth. Emeralds are
green and found in the Earth.
They're extraordinarily
rare, true. Emeralds are formed
with tiny little bits of trace chromium in
them. There's some debate. Some gemological institutions
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will
will honorarily
allow barrel colored by vanadium to be called
barrel or to be called emerald.
Others
absolutely will not. So I'm I'm in the
will not camp.
But,
the the magic of emerald is in part
linked to the fact that they don't form
like most other barrels.
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A lot of our gem quality barrels, we're
gonna find in igneous environments.
We're gonna find them in pegmatites,
which are think of granite, but with much
larger components because it because it cooled
so much more slowly and gave time for
these crystals to form in very high quality
gems. And a lot of our really good
gem materials in general come from pegmatites,
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but not emeralds. They form in metamorphic environments.
We're gonna find them largely in schist, occasionally
in in,
some other metamorphic rocks. Very rarely, there's some
there's a well known Chinese deposit that is
formed in a primary and igneous rock.
But what is happening is
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the beryllium
essential to the make of of beryl, it's
a beryllium aluminum cyclosilicate,
and the chromium that gives it that rich
green color almost never occur together.
So what we need is for
literally the making of mountains, the folding of
landscapes in half, the doubling of them over,
the squeezing and stretching.
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And then the icing on the cake is
a little bit of extra hydrothermal activity going
on. And in those little pockets in the
in between,
we can bring together these other ingredients, the
beryllium and the chromium with the very common,
silicon and oxygen and aluminum and and and
any other trace elements might be in there
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to give us emeralds.
But because of that kind of tortuous and
arduous
history,
geologically speaking, they're usually not very
big, and they're usually not very transparent.
They're often riddled with flaws
of of all different kinds. We usually find
them in,
as as Kyle showed, schistos kind of rock,
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which is a really high grade metamorphism. So
I've got some Brazilian emeralds here in matrix.
This is a gift from my dear friend,
Takeda.
And, you know, when we're really lucky, we'll
find big emeralds or we'll find transparent emeralds.
Sometimes we find them both at the same
time. My my largest is this one here
from Ethiopia, and it's got this beautiful biotite,
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you know, relic of the schist that came
out of here. And this is unusually large
for for an emerald. It's not unusually high
quality.
I I could afford
only one of those modifiers, and it was
not quality, so I went for for quantity
over quality for once.
But emeralds in history have been have been
used, like, true emeralds, have been used since
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the Neolithic era in Northern Africa, and they
were fashioned into at least one headdress or
crown that has been found.
There's some rough dark emeralds in it. There's
also bone and natural resin holding the whole
thing together.
We see inventory records from Babylon that record
the sale of emeralds around six thousand years
ago. We can't be sure they're the same
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species, but they were a precious green stone.
We've got large scale mining of emeralds that
takes place for the very first time in
Egypt in the mines at Wari Sekait,
which under the kind of Roman Hellenistic occupation
period was named was renamed
Mons Muragnus or Mount Emerald because of how
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rich the emeralds were there.
And this was around 1,500 BCE, so like
3,500
ago.
We find stones
there that were buried with the dead and
worn as jewelry by the living. Inscribed stones
were used as talismans. These were deeply
spiritual,
divinely touched gemstones.
Those Egyptian mines were exploited by the Roman
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and the Byzantine empires, and they they spread
like wildfire. But, eventually, they were exhausted.
We find some emeralds in Austria and the
Havertzal region.
More recently, we get them from places like
Pakistan, Afghanistan, China, Brazil,
Zimbabwe,
and and
this this very small pocket that was quite
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prolific for a moment, up in Ethiopia. But
by far, the finest emeralds that that we
tend to find
are from Colombia, and they definitely changed,
the course of
of of emeralds history.
But
the
availability of those Emeralds is linked to things
like
colonialism,
imperialism,
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the
extraction of
wealth via human labor, and the subjugation of
brown and indigenous folks. So it is complicated,
and emeralds are a product of this very
complicated history.
Folklorically,
the the magic of them is linked to
things like the power of Venus,
in
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in Western European and Northern European,
witch folklore, we see that the the locus
of the the
the mythical
site where the witch's sabbat takes place is
sometimes called Mount Venus. It is also occasionally
called
Mount Emerald, Mount Smaragdas.
In some of these,
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trial accounts,
we see that the gem is associated with
the god Thoth in Egypt who is the
father of writing
and measure and calendars
and magic.
And and so there's there's so much of
this magical lore that is wrapped up in
this stone, but there there are a couple
of, like, big myths. We can't unpack the
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whole stories on all of them, but
but they are etched indelibly in our psyche,
and they're also very magical.
We have this story of an emerald that
is said to have fallen
from the crown of the most beautiful of
all angels.
And when it fell to earth,
some say it shattered. Some say it stayed
whole and was carved into a great big
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tablet upon which were written the instructions for
the alchemical art.
In another version, it becomes the holy grail.
And yet another, it's set in a ring
that is gifted to King Solomon that he
uses to command the spirits that build
the the first temple.
There there are so many of these stories
that link emerald to magic. And in the
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modern
kind of new age interpretations of Emerald, we
see a really strong connection to this Venusian
quality of love.
And not just
love as a romantic
situation, but love is a force that changes
matter itself.
I really love an interpretation that comes to
us from a practice called gemstone energy medicine
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or sometimes just
gym therapy, which sounds like it should mean
the same thing as just saying crystal healing.
I assure you it does not. But in
this specific practice, Emerald is thought of as
like the archetypal carrier
of the green ray, the ray that represents
the,
ability for things to materialize,
to come into existence. And the, like, deeper
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message of the green ray is that
everything we touch is a product of divine
love.
Emerald is considered a master healer because love
is the force that heals everything from the
inside out.
And when I compare that to the midst
of the Holy Grail, the Emerald Tablet, Lucifer's
Crown,
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I I see this
kind of storyline that emerges.
And we live
in a world
where if we just listen to the loudest
voices in any room coming from whatever medium,
we hear messages that we aren't good enough.
We aren't pretty enough. We aren't wealthy enough.
We aren't successful enough. I'm no longer young
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enough. I'm also not old enough. I'm not
enough in any way.
And it's really hard to feel like you
matter when you aren't enough. It is so
hard to feel worthy of just about anything,
let alone success and love and fulfillment in
life.
And Emerald
inverts this narrative in a really big way.
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The message of Emerald is the message of
radical self love.
Emerald tells us that
there's nothing specific you have to do to
be worthy of love. There's there's no action
that you can take to earn it. There's
no milestone that
that makes you meritorious.
You exist. That's it. Therefore,
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you are worthy of love. You matter because
you are matter.
And that idea of matter is is linked
up to in in Latin, it comes from
the same root as the word mother.
We are we're born
as products of this divine love, this unconditional
love that moves mountains to birth these sacred
green stones.
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It is maybe the love and the worthiness
of a rebel angel who decided
not to start a war in heaven,
but to be a symbol of light. This,
for after all, literally means light bearer,
and brought that light from the spiritual into
the material to become the soul inhabiting the
matter that is our planet.
This
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is similar to the myth of the planetary
logos, the embodiment of our earth who in
Vedic principles is described as Sanath Kumara,
a serpent like being who fell from the
heavens, who descended from the planet Venus to
take up residence in the middle of the
earth, who is the middle
of
the Earth, who is the king of the
Nagas,
the the kind of serpent like spirits who,
among other things,
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hoard precious gems, including emeralds.
We see in the crown of Lucifer the
opportunity to be our own light bearers, to
be crowned sovereign through reclaiming
the worthiness of love. And when we love
ourselves that radically, we go, well, you know
what? If I can if I can change
the way I feel about this, if I
can change myself,
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can't I change the world too?
I believe in a world, me as Nicholas,
I believe in a world where each of
us
is owed nothing less than
that sense of fulfillment,
that sense of worth,
that sense
of hope that comes from knowing
you are loved in that way. And I
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aim to see a world that is more
just and equitable
through that power of love.
And that is not an easy task.
Climbing Mount Venus
to to reach the summit and see that
change is scary, but we don't have to
do it alone because we do it together
in love. And and when we do,
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we find the tablet there that has the
instructions for alchemy. We find the holy grail
said to have been carved from the self
same emerald, and it is the crucible in
which
alchemy takes place.
And the secret here is that it's not
really about finding a magical cup
or
a rock with some writing on it or
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a crown with some fabulous gem.
The emerald that is all of these things
is the emerald of our heart. It is
the gem that we are. It is the
light we radiate into the world.
It is the magic we live and breathe
each moment if only we could remember it.
And if more of us do,
it's gonna be a better
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world. So that's why I
I I I love what you've shared there,
and I think it's really quite poignant at
the moment about, you know, I I love
that term, you matter because you are a
matter. That that that's brilliant.
And I heard a really great quote in
the last few days about,
it it's not about wokeness.
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It's about kindness.
And it's just about being kind to one
another, but also being kind to yourself. And
I think what you've just shared there is
Emerald does that on on a really profound,
but also really simple way. Would you agree,
Nicholas?
Yeah. I mean,
a a question I ask myself a lot
lately and one I'm I'm endeavoring to ask
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myself more is,
when when faced with an option, you know,
like
commenting
on social media,
replying
to an email that I think is outrageous,
Is this answer
going to be perceived as loving? Is this
answer going to generate more kindness in the
world? Is this answer going to
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maintain or spread that flame of radical love?
And sometimes the answer is get the f
out of here, and that is the kindest
thing you can do because
someone else's unkindness
is harming more people.
And other times, it's swallowing your pride and
saying,
thank you so much for your message.
Or even better yet, to the strangers on
the Internet saying nothing at all Mhmm. Because
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because I can have that fulfillment and that
light and that love within me, I don't
I don't have to go
exercise that anywhere where it's not wanted or
welcome.
But it's also
standing up for the people you care about,
yourself,
your loved ones,
the marginalized people of the world. Like, we're
all in this together.
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Why not try to make the world a
kinder
place? Why not? Exactly. I'd love to expand
also on what you shared, with that aspect
of healing and love as well. You mentioned
the angel, Lucifer.
I've found and, again, we say often on
confab that we're not right. We we just
share our perspectives. And I've always matched
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the four noble crystals of diamond,
sapphire,
emerald, and ruby to the four archangels.
So I I pair ruby with Michael,
Sapphire with Gabrielle,
Diamond with the real, and so Raphael with
Emerald.
And I find Raphael a really interesting angel
because at first sight, you go, he's the
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healing angel or and that's the angel you
call upon whenever you you you're sick or
you need healing in that way.
But each of these angels is also a
governor of one of the different magical elements.
And so Raphael is also of the element
of air.
So what we have here is we have
an angel that's to do with healing and
physical healing, but then also air, which is
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to do with the intellect.
Now when we look at Emerald, it's green.
It has this we've been talking about this
earthly kind of quality about it, but then
has associations
with auth and wisdom as well.
What I love for someone working in the
health industry and the holistic healing industry
is as you know, maybe we can thank
Louise Elle Hay on there are probably people
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who preceded her,
but it's coming into
modern understanding now is that our mental state
and our physical state are interlinked.
And I love this idea of working with
Emerald and working with Rafael, not just saying,
can you fix my sore knee? Can you
stop these migraines? But looking at, okay. What's
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happening on
a surface mental level? Is there too much
stress in my life? And is that causing
different ailments in my body? But, also, there
are some really great references. As I said,
Louise L. Hey. You can Heal Your Life
is kind of the
the the archetype of book, but Ina Seagal's
done work on it. There's another great book
called Barometer of the Soul.
And these help us to understand, well, okay.
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Why are these things manifesting in my body
and not in someone else's body? Why is
one person smoking like a chimney and that
they live into a hundred and the next
person smoking like a chimney and dies of
lung cancer at 35
type of thing? And I find Emerald is
this great amulet helping us with our healing
and taking responsibility
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of our healing. We live in a culture
and there is a shift
where we
hand over the power of our health
and our healing
to an expert
and or to a pharmaceutical. And we're like,
can you just give me a tablet that
will fix it?
But what you'll find a lot of the
time with this is that
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pharmaceuticals
and I'm not here to bag pharmaceuticals, but
often what they do is they band aid
a check an issue. They don't
they don't look at the root cause.
And true healing, as with whether we're talking
about physical healing, mental healing, or emotional healing,
or spiritual healing,
encourages us to dive deeper and learn from
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that rather than just Band Aid that. I
think Emerald brings in this really grounded energy,
as Nicholas said so beautifully, a loving energy
and a wise energy. Now we can see
that as the angel Raphael,
or we can just see it purely as
that crystal
manifestation
of Emerald.
And I think it's it is an amazing
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healing crystal for all types of healing. And
it is maybe because of its price,
not
celebrated as much. But, again, as we've said,
I have a tumbled emerald that I use
a lot that would have cost me 20
Australian dollars, not much at all type of
thing. So it's really beautiful in that healing
work. I also wanna just kinda throw in
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where I use Emerald the most
is actually with travel.
And,
so Rafael, being the angel of air as
well, is is sometimes associated with travel.
So I have a bit of a ritual.
I I fly. I I'm off to Europe,
next week, and I come to America once
a year. And, you know, I I'm often
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in planes, and it doesn't matter how many
times you get on a plane. I don't
think anyone feels totally comfortable. It's a little
bit scary in that way. So we want
that protection, and we also want that protection,
you know, as when we're in foreign lands
and unusual areas out of our comfort zone
as well. So I've got into the habit
of I always have an emerald,
just a tumbled stone that goes in my
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luggage.
And I basically just say a little kind
of incantation as I pop it in there
and and summon that to make this emerald
and my luggage end up where I end
up type of thing. So that kind of
protection of luggage. So if you're a little
bit worried about that, you know, that can
be really great. That normally sits in this
little backpack. So if you've ever seen me
in person, I'm always carrying around this black
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backpack, which has all my essential oils in
it.
And, funnily enough, I had some of my
most precious essential oils when I went on
a recent trip.
And I still don't know how I did
it, but I just left it at the
airport. I went and got in an Uber.
I I I was busy saying goodbye to
people and organizing people in suitcase, and I
left one with with rare essential oils that
I can't get my hands on again.
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But luckily enough, the best place to leave
a bag is at the airport because no
one's going to pick up a bag that's
just sitting there because they are worried. So
luckily, it was picked up by security, and
I got it back. But that was the
emerald kind of working. But I also have
a ritual that I do every time I'm
flying.
So this is my emerald ring that I
wear. I wear emerald on this hand. I
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wear nuummite, which I consider to be one
of the most powerfully protective rings on my
other hand, and I wear a falcon's eye
or a blue tiger's eye pendant.
And what just after the safety demonstration, you
normally taxi and ready for takeoff. I put
my finger on here on this ring, and
I basically just say a little prayer to
Rafael saying, please look after the well-being of
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myself and everyone else on this flight. May
we get to our destination with no major
hiccups and that type of thing as well.
And so far, so good. But what I
found really, really interesting
is with turbulence.
If ever there's turbulence on a plane, I
will pop my finger straight on this ring,
and I visualize Rafael grabbing the plane
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and stabilizing it. And I find as soon
as I do that, it's almost as though
the turbulence will keep going, but it's downgraded
a little bit. And I I visualize Rafael
kind of steadying the plane through that turbulence
as well.
What's really interesting though,
here in Australia,
I found that this technique works a lot
better with Qantas and Virgin
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than it does with Jetstar.
So I don't know.
And I guess what what who who's a
a discount carrier in The States, Nicholas? Is
it like JetBlue?
No. They're they're quite nice. Spirit or Frontier.
Yeah. So I I I would say if
I was traveling around America, it would work
better with something like with with Delta or
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United,
but but not with Spirit type of thing.
So I I just think angels actually discriminate,
but it does seem Rafael does when it
comes to helping out with turbulence in that
way. But, you know, if you are a
bit of a nervous traveler,
I often get asked what crystals are good
for when you're traveling.
Those three when I'm actually on a plane,
but Emerald, I find to be really, really
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great for that travel aspect as well. So
anytime you wanna work with Rafael, and I
really encourage you to kind of dive a
little bit deeper on the realm that Rafael
can help with as well.
He's also the governing angel of the planet
Mercury.
But I do find emerald is very much
a Venetian stone, so that's the joy of
correspondences
as well. Nicholas.
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I I I think
we could also mention that in Vedic astrology,
the primary gem of Mercury is emerald. So
it it is a stone that gets
it it gets a lot of attributes over
history. In some western occult traditions, it's the
primary gem of Saturn.
So it does have these kind of serious
Saturnian qualities associated with the material realm. It's
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got the loving tenderness of Venus, and then
it moves. Literally, it's made by the moving
of tectonic plates.
So, yeah, I think it embodies all these
things, and and that really underscores why it's
such a great travel gem.
Yeah. So it it's amazing for love and
healing. It's amazing for travel,
but it's also, I guess, probably pretty good
for abundance as well when you say car.
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Yeah. Let's change it up a little bit.
I'm gonna talk about abundance. What does that
mean? This is a really this is probably
my favorite emerald. This is a twinned emerald
on schist and it comes from the gold
fields of Western Australia.
I just love. It's not big but it
is mighty powerful in its vibration and
I like to as we've spoken about, emerald
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is one of the archetypal stones and I've
touched on this with ruby sapphire. It also,
for me, touches on the archetype of certain
people. And for me, when I've noticed emerald
wearers,
emerald wearers are individuals on their own schedule
and they are people that have plenty of
time, plenty of money, plenty of everything.
I find emeralds
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to add a lushness
and abundance, a luxurious
energy, and it allows us to have and
when I think about it as a visual,
I'm always put into a rainforest.
It gives me this, like, green on green
on green. And there's actually a term in
gemology that's really important when it comes to
emeralds, and it's
which is that they look like a garden.
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When you look into them, they are just
so amazing. They have different phases of inclusions.
They'll have gas bubbles. They'll have, water. They'll
have three phases,
and there is so much inside of them.
And when you think about a rainforest, it
is abundant. There are so many different layers
of green. There are so many different plants.
There are insects galore. There is
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the hierarchy all working together, and it's so
much.
And that's abundance. Right? And it's all working
together
until we interfere. If we get involved as
humans, generally, we mess it up. But if
we leave it, the rainforests
are literally the lungs of the Earth.
They are the things that keep this planet
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breathing. Right?
When we have abundance,
everyone
is
sharing in that abundance. Everyone gets to benefit
from that abundance. So don't hold yourself back
from having. This idea of abundance and money,
let's change it up. It's not always about
money. It could be about time, friendship, connection,
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love, support.
Abundance is
lots.
Right? It's an overflow.
You don't necessarily need an overflow of money.
It can be useful, but often, you know,
like moss to a flame, it can draw
more problems. More money, more problems. And it's
important to think, what do I actually need
more of?
I need enough money. This has been my
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last several years,
and I've worked with it so intensely is
I have enough money. I don't need more
because
I will probably spend more because I'm still
trying to
do less. Like, my my thing over the
last few years has been about doing less
to achieve more, about being more efficient with
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our energy. Those that lie in the jungle
and live in the jungle use their energy
efficiently. There are nocturnal creatures. There are daytime
creatures. Those that hunt hunt quietly and slowly,
and they have enough. And they have enough
as a month as a part of the
whole that has enough. Right? And I think
that's a really important thing with Emerald. And
as Nicholas said, like, it's love. Everything is
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love. Abundance,
it's all
connected in the same sort of way. And
I found this was my very first
little crystal skull, Brazilian emerald. You can only
just see, like, little bits of green throughout
it, and it was very much, let's go
on a journey into the jungle. Let's actually
go out and see that there is so
much there are so many opportunities for you.
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There is
not a lack.
It changes that idea from lack to there
is. There is an opportunity. There is a
redirection. There is a chance for something. There
is something that I can bring into myself.
I'm not always going to be stuck in
I can't.
And that is that mentality of I am
not allowed to have enough. I can't. There's
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no way forward. We get kind of
trapped within ourself, and it's normal. The universe
is kind of bombarding us. But if we
stop and go for a walk into the
jungle, into the forest,
listen. There's harmony there. Right? It can seem
chaotic at first, but when we stop, everything
is working. When we stop in our own
lives, yes, there's all these things happening. There's
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all these
predators and all these things trying to fight
for the light to live, but they all
live. They all exist.
When we tell ourselves we have enough and
we're allowed to have,
we automatically change
what comes to us, and we can bring
more into our lives. There was a
big lesson that I had with this where
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I was using time, and I was busy,
so I had no time. And I was
always busy, so I had no time. And
it was this cycle of being busy. And
I was being grateful for being busy because
it meant I was working and I was
earning. And I was like, but I don't
have time. And I don't have time. And
then the universe went,
you want time? I'm like, yeah. I really
want time. And it went, okay. Here's burnout.
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I'm gonna put you on your bottom. I'm
gonna force you to stop, and I'm going
to make you
have time. And all of a sudden, I've
had all of this time, and I've been
able to utilize my time better. I've been
able to,
like, stop and do enough
with my day. I utilize my energy more
efficiently to get what I need to get
done done. Instead of trying to, like,
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do so much throughout,
do this.
Spread it throughout. I have a work schedule
that now has days off in between my
days because
I need a day to recover when I
do something really physical.
And so I now know that I have
time and I'm earning enough. I'm paying my
bills. Right? It's
the mentality of, like, I need to be
busy because I need to earn money and
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I need to survive has changed to I'm
working enough. I'm earning enough. I'm taking care
of my physical vessel because that's what it
needs and that's my priority,
and that's allowing me to build up to
more. Right? It's that cyclical nature. There is
sometimes
we have lots and lots, and we're doing
lots and lots, and sometimes it's less and
we're doing less, but we're still abundant in
our choices. We still have enough for us.
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And I think that is one of the
core messages with Emerald that has been for
me specifically is
there is enough
of whatever it is that you want,
whatever it is that you need,
there is enough of it there.
Just, like, bring it into yourself. Like, draw
it in. Allow yourself to
to have. Allow yourself to,
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like
I like to visualize myself,
as,
I can't remember her first name, Adani, the
Indian billionaire lady that wore all the emeralds
to her son's
wedding
last year. Like, those like, I just like
to visualize myself
in that when I'm working with my little
emerald, and it's like, I'm abundant. I'm a
billionaire. I'm so wealthy, and I am doing
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enough.
I'm so glad you took this approach when
talking about abundance with Emerald because I think
a lot of people when they do think
of abundance, they're like, give me the money.
It it's gonna bring in more of that
financial wealth as well. And I love the
example you talked about with, you know, business
versus time and and work versus time.
And I know, you know, reflecting on my
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last few years, how I've made decisions in
my life for both money and career,
at the detriment probably of friendships because I've
I've you know, sometimes I just don't have
enough time to catch up with friends or
nurture those friendships.
And I love this idea of the Emerald,
helps us work out what is enough.
And I I wonder if that's even reflected
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in its energy being hexagonal,
and six is often seen as a really
harmonious and balancing number between, you know, finding
balance between that work, life, friend, personal life,
you know, all those different things that we
need to balance.
How do we find that harmony? I think
emerald could be a really key crystal for
this, would you say, Kyle?
One thousand percent. I think all of the
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beryl family with that hexagonal shape. I think
apatite, beryl,
quartz, even though it's trigonal, they still when
they form hexagonally, when you get those six
sided
crystals, when you get that barrel,
like, there's just this
secure
strength and balance,
and
I just don't think anything compares to the
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way emerald works. I think green garnet comes
close but I don't think anything
compares to how emerald is. So don't worry
about it being clear. Don't worry about it
being like perfectly transparent.
Just work with whatever emerald you can connect
to. My very first piece and the piece
that I had for the longest time is
this little tumble.
And it's innocuous,
(36:30):
and it was a pocket piece that I
had in that little crystal pocket every day
for so, so long.
And I think we get too hell bent
on, you know, size and price, and emerald
is something that skyrocketed
especially over the last five years. Like, it
has gone up, especially gem stuff. And I
think we go, oh, I can't have. And
that in turn is that lesson of emerald
(36:51):
is no. Yes. I can. Yes. I can
have. I'm just gonna have a cute little
tumble. I'm just gonna have a little piece
in my pocket. I'm just gonna get the
littlest skull that I could find. It's so
cute and so little. Like, it doesn't have
to be big, and it's still gonna bring
a lot to you.
I'm really glad, you know, and maybe this
is great that Ashley is not here this
(37:11):
week because I did kinda wanna ask you
guys while it's just us guys here together
and no one else is here. But often
I get asked and I often wonder, does
size matter
when When it comes to our crystals, of
course. That's what I mean. And, Kai, would
you say no? Not necessarily? How do you
normally answer that question?
It's never the size. It's how you use
it. Right? It's the intention.
(37:33):
It's the focus.
There are definitely
some crystals that the bigger they get, the
more energetic you will feel from them. Like,
there is definitely
that thing that comes from bigger pieces, but
you can get so much done with so
little. As we spoke about last week, sorry,
a couple of weeks ago with Jet, like,
(37:53):
my two pieces has gotten me through fifteen
years of crystal work. Right? We don't have
to have giant pieces of things to achieve
great things. And if you have a small
anything,
add clear quartz
because clear quartz will amplify it, and you
will amplify its energy. So if you can
get a piece of clear quartz to connect
(38:14):
to something smaller, it'll boost it like a
receptor,
like a amplifier of a radio wave.
Nicholas, does size matter?
Yes. But not necessarily
for the reasons people think it does. I
mean,
no two ways about it. If you have
two examples
of the same crystal and everything else about
(38:36):
them is identical,
but one is much larger,
you're gonna feel the difference. I mean, I'm
I'm gonna hold up two smokey quartz crystals
for you.
I mean, there's there is no comparison. Right?
And, yes,
size influences
the experience of crystal energy,
but bigger doesn't mean better.
(38:58):
I like to think of the analogy of
a speaker.
The bigger speaker can be louder.
Louder is not better. It's just louder. There
are applications
where we can work with a small crystal,
and it feels like an intimate whisper, and
that's all we need.
But if you need to get someone's attention
from down the street, you better shout.
(39:20):
So
when I do bigger work, things that are
not just about me, but about
community, about the planet, about
connecting with people
in in bigger ways.
I like to have the big guns out
for that. I
love working with large crystals.
I I have had at the center of
grids,
crystals that weigh in excess of 2,000 pounds.
(39:42):
I did not bring them there. Obviously, I
brought the grid to the crystal.
But this is the kind of work that
I have had the the pleasure and privilege
to be able to do over my crystal
journey.
I get to regularly commune with a 30
pound gem quality blue topaz at my day
job and an eight foot tall amethyst bug,
(40:03):
which scarcely fits
through the door.
And
and I think it's okay to say that
that big crystals are good. There's so much,
I think,
tiptoeing around
the idea that you don't need a big
crystal to do things, and, therefore, they're the
same.
You do not need a big crystal to
(40:24):
make healing happen, but they're not the same
in the same way that you don't need
to have a big house to have a
fulfilled life.
But
a tiny one bedroom apartment
and a sprawling palatial estate,
they're not the same. So I I think
we should just be transparent and say, you
don't need the big crystal,
(40:45):
but
but they do feel different.
And that's, of course, only if all the
other parameters are the same. If I have
a teeny tiny gem quality emerald and then
my big honking one that is anything
but gem quality, they don't feel the same
because it's not a one for one comparison.
It's apples to oranges.
So we we do have to
(41:05):
hold space for the fact that
habit or form,
quality, color, saturation, all of these other things
also impact our experience of crystal's energy. It's
not just size.
And
oftentimes, I'm really happy to go for a
smaller gem of much finer quality
than I am something enormous, but it's also
nice to have both at the same time
(41:27):
in the case of some of my my
beloved crystals here.
I totally love that. And I think it's
really important that, like,
that whole thing of bigger things can do
bigger things. And I think that's a really
nice way of putting things. And that is
something I discovered at the Natural History Museum
in London. Like, their gem collection,
that big open floor of crystals
(41:48):
is just something
else. Right?
Can I
just tell you a story about that museum
and that collection,
specifically
about an emerald?
I I did not know as a 30
grown adult
that you could just look at a rock
(42:09):
and weep
in public when people are growing increasingly concerned.
But the very first time my husband and
I traveled, before we married, my my husband
now and I traveled to to England was
in 2019,
and,
the first full day we had in
in The UK was me teaching a very
(42:31):
long class. I'd have never actually taught, like,
a whole day crystal class, but the last
crystal we talked about was the the second
to last,
was Red Coral, and we're talking about the
myth of Medusa and, like, this beautiful feminist
retelling of it, and that led into the
magic of Emerald, which, you know, I'm really
passionate about.
And the next day, we go straight to
the Natural History Museum,
(42:53):
and they've got, you know, like, the old
school
glass boxes filled with rocks, which I love,
but I know to the average person is
not super exciting. So I spent, I don't
know, maybe two and a half hours methodically
going through
every single one
in every box,
taking hundreds of pictures, and then I finally
get to the the vault, they call it,
(43:13):
the, you know, big, swanky,
fancy exhibit at the end. And I I
make my way around
the exterior part, and then there's, like, little
island in the middle. And the very last
thing that I see on display
is an emerald
specimen
painstakingly
excavated over the process of several years to
remove it from matrix.
(43:34):
It is a collection of emerald crystals, some
of which are longer than six inches and
gem
quality, and the specimen is called the Medusa.
It's like her snakes emerging from her scalp.
And I tell you, I saw this stone,
and I just wept and wept. And I've
never seen an emerald as beautiful as this
one.
Not in person
(43:54):
yet. No. That little so that little vignette
of,
is something else. And their collection of diamonds
that they've collected that fluoresce and are all
different colors,
like, is something else.
But it was for me, when we got
down below the crystals, we came down as
big beautiful steps.
Right beneath the geological section
(44:15):
is like a meter
by meter and a half gypsum cluster.
Huge, huge thing. And I sat with that
thing, and it was like, I'm the one
that's doing all the work in this place.
I am the one that is keeping everything
cleansed and in order. I am the one
that they all need to be thanking.
And I was like, I'm gonna sit with
(44:36):
you for five minutes. Thank you very much
for your time. So if you go, make
sure you check that one out below because
that is a huge thing that's doing a
lot of amazing work.
Well, regardless of our audience, I'm grateful for
this conversation because I will be in The
UK in exactly two weeks' time,
and that will be somewhere I'm going to
go. And I'll go through the gyps and
and and, you know, thank you for your
(44:58):
service. Thank you for your service. I'll be
very grateful as well.
So I think, Emerald, we've really kind of
encapsulated. It is such
a amazing crystal.
Maybe people have not gone after it because
they've gone, oh, no. That's too expensive, that
type of thing. And that's why I really
wanted to have that conversation about, you know,
just find something that works for you and
(45:19):
in your budget and bring that energy in.
It helps with healing. It helps with self
love. It helps with that abundance. It helps
with gravel. It it is really
a a crystal must. And when there are
so many different green crystals, sometimes maybe emerald
get buried amongst the list of other green
crystals you may have in your collection. But
I hope today,
(45:40):
we've been able to
open your heart, not only to yourself, but
to emerald as well. Now for those that
have written to us and have been concerned
because Ashley,
hasn't been here for three weeks, do not
worry.
It's simply the fact that sometimes when we're
traveling, trying to get all four of us
to talk at the same time can be
a bit of a trouble. I won't be
(46:01):
here next week, because of my travel commitment,
but we are still committed to contacting every
week and keeping you update with all different
crystals. So as we'll be back next week,
could we take it over from me, to
keep these other two rowdy bunch under control
as well?
Until then, go get your enrolled out, and
we will see you next week. Take care,
(46:21):
and blessed be.
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