Mother Shadow, Zen Tea Ceremonies & Flower Essences with Jasmine of Solflower Seeds

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Speaker 1 (00:41):
Today on the podcast, we have a very special
guest, Jasmine . Jasmine is asensitive soul mentor, zen
meditation and vibrationalhealing teacher, flower
whisperer, spirit channel, andtea ceremonialist. She
facilitates ceremonies,workshops and courses, teaching

(01:02):
energetic healing meditationpractices, and how to enhance
them with the vibrational toolsof spirit, guide,
communication, flower essences,herbal energetics, and plant
medicine. Jasmine began hermeditation journey in a
Buddhist monastery as a studentof Zen , ana and dharma . She

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now guides sensitive souls andempaths to transmute the
shadows of sensitivity andawaken the energy healer within
seeing sensitivity as a greatsuperpower, not a weakness.
Jasmine holds gentle, safespace in spiritual mentorship
of themes such as transmuting,emotional overwhelm and

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overstimulation into emotionalfreedom, nervous system
regulation, re mothering theinner child's maturing
self-kindness and compassion,energetic protection and
hygiene, shadow integration andwholeness, ancestral and karmic
healing, and harnessing yourunique psychic energy healer

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gifts. Welcome to the podcasttoday, Jasmine .

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Thank you, Mel .
It's an honor to be here today

Speaker 1 (02:13):
And you as well. I know we've had such a beautiful
introduction into this sacredspace today. You've prepared ,
um, in a very sacred way, andso have I, and we've also given
different offerings to eachother. So I just wanna share a

(02:34):
little bit about what Iprepared for you for the
podcast. So I actually had somebeautiful peonies growing in
the garden, and I infused thosewith some oils. So I have pure
peony oil for you that I'mgoing to send you after the
podcast. And also a beautifulrose cacao and , uh, some rose

(02:59):
quartz crystals and somebeautiful nettle tea. And so
can you share a little bitabout , um, what you prepared
for before the podcast today?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
So beautiful to meet in this divine way, and I love
that , um, you've created somuch , um, ritual and protocols
before even stepping space intosharing all of these wisdoms
out into the world for me. Um,I started the day with the

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intention to , um, sit withrose and cacao . They came
through a few days ago to helpme ground my energies and
connect me to different plantmedicine. There were flower
senses involved, differentflour and herbal oils that I've

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, um, made through differentherbs in my garden, or created
this beautiful altar with one nholding a baby. And I've got a
hand painted Shira behind me.
And yeah, I actually had a ,um, self ceremony today before
stepping into this co-creativespace with you knowing that

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this opportunity would call agreat deal of clearing and
preparation to allow , um, mybody vessel to hold the events
amount of energy that's wantingto be birthed through us , um,
today. So I had my ownceremony. I sat with the
medicine , um, I felt into theguides and just really expanded

(04:47):
, um, my own energy through allof the practices that I do so
that I could feel all thethings , um, but still remain
centered amongst it all and notget overwhelmed, because when
we do this energy work , um, ifyou are not allowing yourself

(05:07):
to have guides and medicine andthe earth and divine
consciousness itself to holdyou , um, it will be very
difficult to channel anything of such high frequency
because you need that workfirst.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah. And that's so beautiful because I feel like,
you know, our spirits couldalready hear each other , um,
while we were preparing, andalso we had Mary Magdalene and
UA come through as well tocreate a frequency for this
podcast. And basically thetopic of that was Sacred Union.

(05:46):
Sacred Union is all about , uh,the union that you have with
yourself and with your ownheart , um, and your ability to
be able to share that withothers. I think that's a really
, uh, beautiful way to startthis podcast going back when I,
you know, when we first startedpreparing for this podcast

(06:07):
many, many weeks ago, Ireceived this sacred message
about you, which was, she's awise mother, a medicine healer
from the past who much like QuaYin holds the space for others
in the most authentic, deep andcompassionate way. And she's
spent so many lifetimescultivating this temple of the

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heart that she vibrates purelove at the highest
consciousness. The pathway thatshe walks has not been easy,
but it is because of this thatshe is a light channel of deep
integration and experience. Sowhat does it mean to you to
hold this deeply sacred spacefor others and to initiate and

(06:48):
help them on their path ofauthentic healing and soul
growth?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Wow, what a huge question. Um, I love it very
juicy. So many things that cometo mind, coming back to how we
felt into the energy of union.
And there's so many ways thatwe can look at duality and how
that comes up. Um, GU is abeautiful space holder for

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seeing the oneness in dualityor the , um, transcendence of
duality where we're not sayingthat , um, black and white,
feminine, masculine, human anddivine, like all of those
seemingly dualistic andopposite things. A lot of the
time we feel they'reconflicting and we can't hold

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space for both of them to feelsoft and firm at the same time,
or vulnerable and powerful. Andthis way of living that I've
been initiated into teaches ushow to step back and hold both
and all and expand our sense ofself to be able to be the space

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or the heart . Like the heartis such an integrative , um,
place to exist because it canhold infinite space for all
things to belong, things thatdon't make any sense and are
quite polar opposites. So it'sbeen a huge journey, I feel,
from my childhood of not reallyunderstanding my sensitivity or

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even that that word existed ,um, into now becoming a woman
that can , um, own it as apower and see that I've chosen
this soul path of having tofeel everything, the great joys
of celebrating the beauty oflife with others and with all

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of the energies around me, andalso the deep pain that comes
from it, from feelingeverything all at once all the
time, and the intensity ofthose sensations in your body
being overwhelming a lot of thetime. So through my spiritual
journey, it's been a verypersonal initiation into

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feeling it alive within my bodyand learn how to relate to it
in a way that is non-identifiedand compassionate, the
masculine of wise discernmentand not being overwhelmed by it
and entangled with it, and thatBuddha energy and also the
compassion of going, ah , thishuman life can be really

(09:29):
painful, and that's okay. I canembrace it, but not be , um,
drowning in in the sufferingthat's happening.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
That's really beautiful. And your , you also
hold that compassionate spacefor so many people when you do
hold sacred ceremonies. So canyou tell me a little bit about
that and , uh, how has itevolved that you've been able
to hold such a strong space?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I remember , um, growing up feeling isolated and
overwhelmed by feelingeveryone's energy all the time.
And a lot of the initiation ofbeing a sensitive soul and
being an empathic healer,energy healer and sensing
things from the unseen andother people's energy all the
time is protection , um, anddiscernment. And the ana

(10:24):
meditation and Zen Buddhism hashelped me a lot with learning
how to be that observer ratherthan feeling I am the feeling
that I'm feeling. And slowlyyou grow that spaciousness
between what you witness andhow you respond to it. And a
lot of the time it'snon-reactivity. It's just

(10:45):
feeling the discomfort andallowing it to pass you along,
like clouds in the sky. So alot of the spaces I hold , um,
is really about granting peoplethat experience of
acknowledging the suffering orthe challenge that they're
currently facing, normalizingthat, helping them release

(11:05):
resistance, shame , um,identification, feeling that
they are the thing that they'rechallenged by. And then slowly
from that gentle space, ratherthan calling out their shadows,
we're integrating them backinto wholeness by not
demonizing them, but showingour hearts , um, presence with

(11:28):
them and allowing them to beheard and have their needs met.
And then what happens is thatshadow is reclaimed and we get
to experience freedom from ourshadows, not by bypassing them,
but by loving them, by honoringthem, by understanding them. I

(11:48):
remember there was a , um,story that a teacher of mine
had taught, I believe it wasTara Brock in my meditation
training, but I may be wrong.
And she spoke about mindfulnessand this Buddhist tradition ,
um, of philosophy andunderstanding the nature of

(12:09):
reality. It was this professorwho was quite old, and he was
about to give a lecture on ,um, mindfulness. And as he got
up to the podium and wanted toread , um, or start to speak
about what he wanted to say, hewent completely blank . And

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rather than repressing orshying away from the human
experience of completelyforgetting and having all of
the flush of shame andembarrassment come up and just
trying to ignore it, he allowedhimself to lean into it and
surrender to it and allow hisawareness and compassion to be

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widened, to include thatchallenging moment, that
shadow, that experience. And sowhat happened was he got up to
the front and he said, and the, and the room was quiet and
everyone was watching him, andhe felt very overwhelmed. And
he said, okay, I'm aware thatI'm feeling nervous. I've

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forgotten what I'm meant tosay. I'm feeling waves of
embarrassment and shame andself-judgment. And the more
that he spoke into what he wasfeeling and allowed it to be,
the quicker it passed . Andit's that saying of what you
embrace dissipates and what youresist persists. So this

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practice truly allowed him tobe vulnerable in that moment.
And as it progressed, hestarted to regain his
composure, and through thatprocess, remember what he
needed to say. Um, but beforehe started, there were people

(13:57):
that were crying in theaudience and someone raised
their hand and said, wow , I've, um, we've never had a speaker
like you before and hadmindfulness shown to us in that
way. Not spoken to ustheoretically, but being given
an energetic transmissionthrough being able to live

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experience that shift inconsciousness that this tool
can allow us. Um, and that isthe practice of having tea with
our shadows, of allowing themto be guests in our lives
because we are human beings,and in that way freeing us from
their entanglement becausethey're all part of our life.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
I love that. And the words that really came up to me
when you were saying that wasmeeting humanness with
humanness, and I feel like, youknow, when you were talking
about the pros , professor, thebest teachers are the ones who
can actually meet us in all ofour humanness. They're not,
they're not the ones who , um,sit above us. They're the ones

(15:08):
that sit with us. Yeah. I feellike that's as well what you
probably offer within yoursacred ceremony and teach
others to have this space of,you know, like you said, you
know, verbalizing, whether it'sin our mind or, or or truly
verbalizing what's going on ,um, and letting it move through

(15:29):
rather than resisting it.
Because I know very much, youknow, even when I am addressing
things, you know, perhaps I'mcoming, coming through in a
very direct manner, and thatmight be, that might actually
be seen more as resistancerather than stepping back into
my humanness and saying, okay,I'm just going to let this

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flow, let this energy flow anddo what it needs to do and not
have so much control over it.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I think it's such a powerful tool to not keep our
shadows in repressed darkcorners where they just grow
more louder. And rather thanbeing whispers of , um, Hey, I
need loving attention and careand understanding right now
because you've neglected me forso long due to shame or

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frustration or self-judgment orwhatever , um, we're feeding
greater power into thoseshadows and not being able to
reclaim all of our light andall of the divinity that can be
found in our human rawness. Andthose shadows become more like
screams and we trip over thethings we sweep under rugs and

(16:47):
all of this yada yada stuffthat happens when we just can't
be truly ourselves with otherpeople and see the complexity
of the deep wisdom that residesin each one of us, and also the
parts of us that are stillgrowing and unconscious. And ,
um, that's why we're put onthis earth to, to learn. So why

(17:11):
are we putting ourselves andother people down unnecessarily
when we're here to be imperfectand make mistakes and awaken
from those states of nonwholesome being ?

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah . And I feel like as well, like , uh, that's
really the pathway of theliving pathway of the rose .
It's the rose showing us pedalby paddle , what we need to
look at within. Um, it's reallythe journey of understanding
and knowing ourselves better.
And when we, the rose reallymirrors that, the living path

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of the rose really mirrors thatback to our soul, you know, we
can, our shadows can start tocome up if we, like you said,
if we sit with them and weallow them to flow, we, we can
pick off that pedal and we cango to the next, and we can go
to the next one. And , uh,yeah. So the path of the rose ,

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really, once we, once we workthrough those shadows , um, we
can start to see, when we lookin the mirror, start to see
ourselves from a place of loveand divinity , um, and not from
, uh, a place of, you know,deeply held wounds.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
And as soon as we can see them clearly, and we
can love them, they'retransformed. And that untapped
potential of the shadowsbecomes part of our wholeness
and actually transmutes intolight and transmutes into clear
understanding, clear seeing andpeace, deep peace , um, amongst
all of the challenges andadversities that we face. And

(18:51):
one vision that came to mindjust now is the teachings of
Guin and , who isnow more feminine goddess, but
, um, traditionally a bit moremale. And in my eyes , um,
androgynous, I envision Guianas an ascended master who sits

(19:14):
upon the top of a mountain in alotus, able to be with all of
the cries and suffering ofhumanity and holds space for
all of that, but not be, again,identified with it, seeing from
that spacious, expansive,higher perspective and going,

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ah , I can hold fully theillusion and pain of suffering
from this place of truthbecause I'm not entangled in
it. And , um, I can see that itis both impermanent and
impersonal, and it's alwaysjust coming and going as a part

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of our open human experience.
Um, and in that way there's aacceptance and an exhale into
the kind of mystery of life.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah. And what I saw, as you were saying, that
was Juan Yin on, on one side,and she was holding the lotus
flower and Mother Mary on theother side holding the rose .
And so I feel like maybe it's,it's a balance between those
two dualities. And so I do knowquite a bit about the pathway

(20:32):
of the rose, but, but what doesthe lotus represent? Mm-Hmm .

Speaker 2 (20:37):
The lotus is really about, for me, alchemy, and
there's so many , um,traditional stories in Zen from
the monastery about , um, howcan we clearly see and honor
the mud and our shadows and seethat things need, it's about

(20:59):
karmic cycling and , um, seeingthat when flowers die, they
become rich, fertile soil. Andthere's so much untapped
potential from the shadowrealm, from the underworld that
is seeking first , um, facingand then honoring and
understanding and thentransmutation. And a lot of the

(21:21):
time we get lost in the darknight of the soul and just feel
completely surrender to all thedarkness that's coming through
us. But from that comes theblossoming of this beautiful
lotus of enlightenment andunderstanding and freedom. But
there is a dualistic orsymbiotic kind of yin yang

(21:44):
element to them, because theycan't really exist without the
other, you can't know yourselfas universal consciousness
itself until you've forgotten.
And that's kind of the , um,the human path and what we're
here on earth school to learn.
And through also Christconsciousness is seeing that ,

(22:05):
um, we're born into this humanrealm with amnesia from the
soul contract that we chose toforget ourselves to remember
ourselves again. And thepathway of how we remember
ourselves is our dharma and ourpurpose. Everyone's got a very
kind of slightly differentunique core wounding and core

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trauma, or forget forgettingforgetfulness, and then the
remembering and the healing andthe transmutation of that. And
the mud goes to lotus, andthat's what we're brought here
to learn for ourselves and thenbe able to share to others so
they can remember who theyreally are. So there's a beauty

(22:46):
in that, and there's a purposein that. If we can expand past
the duality and see the biggerpicture,

Speaker 1 (22:52):
That's really beautiful. Um, and when you
said Christ frequency, Ithought about , uh, the
crystalline frequency, whichis, which means Christ all in.
And so it's, it's us you know,meeting, meeting, meeting
ourselves from that space ofdivine love from our heart

(23:14):
center, not from the socialconditionings that we've had to
work for , work through or ,uh, or received earlier in
life. Um, and so I feel likewhen we do work through all of
this shadow work, or I couldsay, you know, there's showing
me there's, there's the twopaths here. There's, there's

(23:36):
the path of the lotus andthere's the path of the rose ,
and they both take us to thesame destination, but they're,
they're both equally importantjourneys and they run , uh,
side by side as crystallinefrequencies. And so when we
look at these differentdualities and meet ourselves

(23:56):
from the perspective of, ofquain or the perspective of, of
Mother Mary , um, we can meetourselves in more purity and
more authenticity and thenstart to , uh, I guess
formulate our own crystallinegrid and project that out to
others. Um, and I reallystrongly believe that we, we

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cannot do this work withoutgoing through the shadows. So
if, if you have resistedworking through those shadows
or do find yourself in a blockin life, I do think, as you
said, surrendering to thatplace and allowing it to wave
through is the way through, not, uh, even though you've got

(24:43):
resistance, trying to even justtake a first step in that
direction,

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I find , um, yeah, the, it's very interesting
seeing that you've got twoconcepts , um, in Zen where
there's sudden enlightenmentand there's gradual
enlightenment. Gradual wouldkind of fit in the paradigm
that we're creating at themoment with the lotus, where
there is a unconscious stateand a conscious state. So the,

(25:13):
the mud and then the lotus, andthat's about awakening again
and again and again. Andthere's like a switch in a way.
And then you've got the rose,which is more sudden and full
enlightenment where you arejust melting back into the
isness of this moment. And it'sthat surrender and that trust
of , um, just coming back intoflow with universal

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consciousness itself. And theyare beautiful kind of feminine
and masculine ways of workingwith the energies that , um,
we're always constantly dancing, um, through. And sometimes
when we become , um, balanced,off , balanced and
concentrating on one, it can be, um, detrimental for us. I

(25:58):
know if you're really intosurrendering , um, and into the
feminine work, it can become abit more like inertia. And you
don't know whether it's karmicconditioning that's leading you
or whether this is somethingfor your highest good when you
do more masculine work ofpurification, basically, which
is kind of Buddha's work. Um,and zen it can be very much

(26:21):
like reiterating thissubconscious belief that you
are always a project orsomething that needs to be
fixed, that you are broken andthere's something that needs to
occur for you to , um, heal.
And so that's disempowering aswell. And it's a kind of
relative reality and anultimate reality in how to

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combine the two of honoring Iam divine , um, but I'm also a
work in progress.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
I love that. And so, so if we're talking about the
masculine and the feminine, forme, both sides of work are
equally important. And I knowwhen you're pulled onto the
divine feminine path, you canbecome very flowy and all that
kind of thing, which I think isamazing, right? But there is a

(27:14):
point in time where we, when wealso need to ma to balance out
this divine masculine. And so,so would you say that, you know
, k yin is, is that reprepresentation of, of Buddha in
, is in the masculine and thefeminine, or is there another
mother and father who were ,who worked together within,

(27:35):
within that consciousness?

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I think K Yin is kind of, in my experience of
the modesty that I was learningfrom there was a bit more
leaning towards the masculinityand I had to step away , um,
after a few years of learningfrom there because it started
to become nihilistic. And um,like I had to give up all

(28:00):
pleasures and I just felt somuch aversion to self to parts
that I still felt were me thatwere seeking actually more
feminine, compassionate holdingand feminine practices. And
then I went into learningdivination and , um, how to
utilize Oracle cards and workwith guides and all of the

(28:24):
trusting my intuitiveinstinctual knowing. Um, and
that was like more of a secondphase of my awakening. But the
first phase was more masculine,I would say guan y kind of is
in how I've worked with them abit more masculine, but also
kind of in the middle because ,um, compassion arises naturally

(28:44):
when you can see the sufferingand hold space with a open
heart for all of the cries ofthe world. Um, but it comes
from first acknowledging thatyou aren't the suffering and
that way you are not holdingthe baggage of collective
suffering on your shouldersfrom this, you know, small

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being that we constantly are,we're not always our larger
higher self that is formlessinfinite awareness that can
hold everything because we arenothing. There's the paradox
there that the , um, initiationof this tradition allows for.
But in our day-to-day, wearen't that , um, we're still

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learning , we're stilloverwhelmed by certain things
that happen to us in theday-to-day. So we can't
possibly hold all of thebreadth and depth of suffering
in the world , um, and be freefrom it. It's about how you
relate to it in , in a safeway. Other more masculine , um,

(29:46):
spirit guides that I've workedwith recently that have helped
me , um, have been sacred. Um ,tobacco macho and working with,
yeah , Buddha, Jesus, theirenergies and trees, actually
wise trees , um, redwood andpine, they hold this energy of

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teaching you what is yours andwhat isn't yours to hold in
this current moment. And whenyou are starting to become a
martyr and a bleeding heart foreverybody else's issues and
absorbing all of theiremotional imbalances as an
empath , um, that is not,they're like side quests, you
know, your dharma here is tolearn the core things that you

(30:34):
are here to transmute and notgo and , um, merge with other
people and learn their lessonsfor them. We as empaths and
sensitive souls can get verydistracted by trying to resolve
other people's karmic lessons.
And then all these things ofcodependency and having poor

(30:54):
energy protection , um, comesthrough and drains us of our
life force. So a lot of theirteachings are about wise
discernment of what is yoursand what isn't. What is in your
highest good to accept as achallenge to transmute also
Yeah, boundaries and being ableto create this really safe,

(31:16):
steady place for your feminineto play and create and flow and
feel safe to be vulnerable andsoft. And so I found when I was
doing a lot of feminine workthat me not being able to
vocalize when I'm upset, whenit's a no , um, being available
energetically to people that Ifelt drained by all of those

(31:39):
things were hindering mycapacity to fully be in the
power and gifts of my feminine.
And I was, I had a big slap andbig call and wake , yeah , wake
up call , um, from all of thesedifferent teachers , um, to
really be okay with polarizingother people and speak my truth

(32:04):
even if I knew that it wasn'tgoing to amount to connection
and understanding , um, that,you know , the feminine is kind
of more flowy and connective ,um, and better in. So yeah,
being able to back myself andback the things that I needed
and would vocalize and takeaction upon those things , um,

(32:26):
and feel safe within my owncenter, even amongst , um, not
feeling safe and understoodaround other people, that has
allowed me to be a lot more ofa balanced person. And as my
feminine energy rises, so canmy masculine and that beautiful
union that we've been talkingabout can actually blossom.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I was just thinking about all those early lessons
of boundaries and speaking the truth. And they're
really, really difficultlessons to learn and , uh, take
many, many years to learn. AndI will say, as you progress on
this path, those lessons getharder and harder and harder.
They don't get easier,unfortunately. But what I've

(33:09):
actually found is you can copewith them better. So that's the
big difference between when youstart out and you are getting
all these lessons and tests inblocks and boundaries and
difficult people or difficultclients or, you know, being
faced with all of thesedifferent , uh, challenges or I
would actually put it beingfaced with your mirror because

(33:31):
everybody is a mirror and ateacher. Yeah. I feel like
you've brought up some reallygood shadow aspects in that, in
that earlier journey. And thenlet's talk about in the , uh,
you know, as you've been onthis path for some time, you
still get the lessons, but theycome in a little bit
differently. So for example, asif said a million times on this

(33:56):
podcast, my main guide isMother Mary . Um, I
don't operate without her. Andso her and the Holy Guides ,
um, one of them will comethrough and guide me on that.
So for example, if I'vereceived a big upgrade in
energy, which I know we bothhave over the last month, and I
know I've spoken to so manyother women who have told me

(34:19):
they've gone through who arespace holders like us who have
gone through the same upgrades.
Um, and so I've, I've told themsort of what I've gone through,
and then they've said, I, Ifeel that I know that because
I've gone through that too. Andso the difference between a
beginner in that situationwould be you might not

(34:41):
understand what's happening andyou might more see that as a
trauma, or you might see it as,maybe this work's not for me,
you know, because it's reallydifficult and I , I just can't
hold that right now, but lateron in the journey , um, so my
holy guides will step in andthey'll say, you are going to
be receiving this newfrequency. This is exactly what

(35:03):
it is. You know what to do.
You're going to have tosurrender. You're going to have
to rest while we bring itthrough. You're going to have
to eat nourishing food. And Idon't care what else you have
on in your life or what you'veplanned over the last, over the
next month, you won't be doingthat because you'll be getting

(35:23):
this upgrade in frequency andyou'll have to do the work. And
so I was put back in that placeover the last month or two ,
uh, like you , uh, and I'm justgonna say I was actually put,
so the difference is I can seethat I'm being put to rest by
the mother, and so I'll betaken to a little bit of a

(35:48):
healing chamber, I'm gonna callit. And, and then we are given
all these different frequenciesand all these different tools.
And then once those few monthshave finished, and um, I
would've seen everything thatwas released from my body
'cause I'm highly clairvoyant.
Um, and so once that's, onceI've done all of that work,

(36:09):
which is really, really hard,and I've received the messages
and I write down the messagesthat they've told me , um,
because they're going to besort of my next step or my next
upgrade, then they'll say, onceI've received the upgrade,
okay, in income's your test foryour boundaries and your new
protection, and I'll be given anew set and estate protection

(36:32):
to be able to deal with thisnew frequency. And so if we put
it in those steps, it feels alittle different to the
beginner who's starting out,who, who wouldn't have that, I
guess, higher knowledge to beable to work through that. And
so, you know, we're, we'retalking a lot about higher
guides. I work with the holyfamily mainly. Um, so Yeshua ,

(36:57):
Mary, Sarah Yeshu is also Jesus , um, Sarah, Mary
Magdalene, Anna, not as muchAnna, but I do get her coming
in sometimes. They're the mainguides for me. And then I have
some extra guides depending onwhat I'm going through. So for
example , uh, today, stepped in for ,

(37:19):
for us , um, and helped me feelyour love and compassion coming
through. Um, and I know that'syour guide. And so I also know
that, that , uh, when I'mreceiving one of your guides,
they're also open to me workingwith them as well. Last week ,
uh, I had a beautiful new guidecome through , uh, with another

(37:43):
lady, and that was Krishna. Ihad not worked with Krishna
before, and Krishna came to meand he said, you know, I'd love
you to be able to learn to workwith my healing frequency. And
all of this blue light camethrough and I was for hours on
end, I was in a , thishigher consciousness space of

(38:03):
his blue light. And I justloved it so much. I had
literally didn't wanna leaveit. So I hope he comes back.
That's giving a bit ofpermission to that. But I feel
like when we're, when we'rewalking through our shadows,
like you're saying, we need toconnect in with our guides to
be able to receive the inintuition about what's going on

(38:25):
here. Because when we aredisconnected, and that can,
that can obviously happen in avery masculine space like
you're saying, right? We canfeel disconnected when we're in
that masculine space, when westep into that feminine space,
we can connect back into, intonature, connect back into our
intuition, ask for guidance,ask for things to come through,

(38:46):
and then the most importantstep, which could be a little
bit more masculine, I don'tknow, I'll see what you think
is taking that action .
You know, you've gotta be ableto take the action once you've
received it, because if theykeep giving you information ,
um, I can tell you now that youwill stay, you will stay right

(39:08):
where that information is untilyou've heard it. Um, and then
that becomes a block on thejourney. Do you know what I
mean?

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah. .

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah. How does it come through? Like, I'd love to
hear how it comes through, likefor you, when you are gonna
step into your shadow, what isit that, that , you know, what
can you feel?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I definitely resonate with that . The more
you go down this path, themore, not necessarily easier it
gets, but the more you becomefamiliar with the territory.
Mm-Hmm , thinkthat would be the word that
that comes out. Because whenyou're experiencing purging,

(39:53):
when you're experiencingupgrades , um, there's always
gonna be the , um, two sides ofthe coin. You're gonna
experience so much freedom andexpansion and joy that , um, is
uninhibited and doesn't comefrom anything but is just
there. And you're gonna feelthe darkness of separation from

(40:14):
that and confusion. And thedeeper and further along this
path you go, the more toolsyou've developed so that when
some load eventually falls onyour shoulders, your muscle has
become so strong that you can'tfeel it anymore. And you know
that you've learned that lessonand you are ready to move on.

(40:36):
And so your guides are alwaysgoing to , um, be challenging
you , um, from a place of lovebecause they know that you're
ready for the next phase, whichwill be harder .

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Um , your capacity to receive will be greater .
Yeah . And we've like the, inthe , I've had three phases of
awakening. The first was moremental philosophical through ,
um, understanding the nature ofreality through Buddhism and
awareness and being reallypurist. Um , the , they're

(41:11):
beautifully simplistic andpurist, but they're very hard.
It's a hard thing to learn thebasics of not having attachment
to any guides, anyexplanations, any colorful
language , um, stories,whatever. It's just sit for
hours and witness everythingand learn how to have , um,
non-attached relationship toall of your experience. It's a

(41:34):
hard lesson , very kind ofmasculine and wisdom driven ,
um, understanding that then ,um, becomes a dissolution into
oneness. Um, so it's a kind ofmasculine into feminine , into
the nothingness. Then I had the, um, second wave of , um, more

(41:55):
emotional healing, connectingto my inner child and her
needs. And , um, learning howto call upon , um, spiritual
support from my guides, workingwith crystals, working with
cards and divination tools, andhoning in my capacity to trust
and feel my intuition and allowthat to guide me. And then the

(42:17):
third phase has been the onethat I'm in now is a lot more
about the body and the earthand creating safety within my
body , um, to receive and toground my energy working with
denser energies, basically. Sostarting from very high
vibrational, very subtleenergies , um, that are, you
know, kind of expanding therealm of consciousness and very

(42:40):
kind of astral and then beyond.
Um, and then slowly gettingmore and more dense into the
body and feeling so much painand stuff come up. Um, and
yeah, being able to have thataha moment of going, ah , yes,
I know that this challenge iscoming up for my good. And if

(43:03):
you can allow yourself to , um,be larger than it, your sense
of self and your awareness, bespacious enough to go, ah ,
like this is what's happening.
That's an empowering switch. Sowe're no longer victim to , um,
whatever the collective isgoing through and the upgrades
that are needed. And, you know,just being thrown around in the

(43:27):
ocean wave after wave, we canexpand out into being the ocean
of awareness and see , uh, thewave is coming. Let me call
upon the tools and thepractices that I've been
cultivating every day throughmy integration in this way of
life , um, through working withdifferent plants, herbs, oils,

(43:52):
yeah. Through different energyguides. Um, through leaning on
our community for support aswell. That one has been coming
in strongly for me as a littlehermit sensitive soul .
Um , being able to find likepure hearted loving individuals
to, to hold me through thosetimes and go, yes, I see you
and this is valid, and we canhold this together. Allowing

(44:15):
myself to be held and for mysoul to feel that it's
expanding out into aco-creation of being held , um,
by human beings and not justspirit guides has been so
life-changing because itconflicts with my body's

(44:37):
capacity and deep heldwoundings of feeling unsafe ,
um, and not belonging in abodily way. So being able to
merge spirit and body by athing that I do often is when I
feel something's happeningthrough me, usually around the

(44:59):
time I bleed as well. 'causewe're so cyclic as women
emotionally or physically, whenI'm feeling unwell or feeling
not myself every night before Igo to bed, I, I set that
intention and that I feel is abit more masculine because it's
the, the clarity and thedecision to do something about
it and the capacity to face thediscomfort and the challenge or

(45:22):
the fear. I have courage. Andthen the after that is the
allowing right of the feminine.
So calling in my guides forenergetic upgrades and or not
even upgrades sometimes it'sjust like, guides, can you help
me hold this because it's souncomfortable right now? And

(45:42):
can I receive healing? And thenthere'll be times where I'm
like, I feel something iscoming. Can we get upgrades and
guidance? And , um, I givepermission and I'm open to
feeling any kind of messagescome through over the week. And
the thing that has reallyhelped me the most, because I'm
this person when I was young,wanting everything all at once,

(46:05):
is being really gentle withyourself and saying, can I re ,
if you're feeling veryvulnerable , um, and
overwhelmed, you can say, can Ireceive this as gently and
compassionately as possible?
That has shifted so much.
'cause the amount of timeswhere I've received upgrades
and just gotten like, slappedaround and just felt so

(46:25):
overwhelmed by it , um, andexhausted by it, the gentle and
softness and the, you know,titration of drip by drip , can
I have support slowly, hasreally allowed me to be more
trauma sensitive and formed inhow I receive help
energetically as well.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
And I think , uh, with what you said was, I think
Oprah would describe it as atweetable moment. , we
are not victim to thisspiritual path. We are not
victim of to the things thatare happening to us. And so

(47:08):
when we , uh, dedicateourselves to this path and we
are open to learning the tools,and we're open to listening and
we're open to connecting to ourintuition, and we're open to,
you know, all the beautifulthings that come in , uh, on
this journey , um, we, we thenlose that, use that state of

(47:31):
victimness, don't we? We becomeempowered. We can use all these
different things. Um, theuniverse definitely doesn't
require us to walk this pathalone. And neither does it
require us to walk this paththrough a space of trauma
either. You know, we are alwaysheld and we're always loved and
we're always supported. And Iloved that part that you

(47:53):
mentioned, that you actuallyasked for it in a specific way
now, because you know what ?
That's, that's the whole point.
It's about you and it's abouthow you would like to receive
all of this different, all ofthese different things. And uh,
that's what , that's exactlywhat you can do when you've
built up a good communicationwith your guys and you build
that relationship up, you cancommunicate with them and say,

(48:16):
this is how I would like toreceive it, or hang on, I'm
actually not going to receivethat right now because I have
too much going on in my lifethat's gonna be there when I'm
ready to receive it. And thatwas one of the things that I
actually asked the guidesduring this podcast. I could
feel that there was a reallystrong activation, another one

(48:37):
coming through my throat, Jasmine's energy has
given me , um, so manybeautiful things. And one of
those is, is some clearingstoday. And I could feel that
energy coming through my throatand I said, please, can you
just leave it until the end ofthe podcast because otherwise

(48:59):
I'm gonna be coughing and it'sgonna be irritated. So they've
settled that down a little bit,but I think that's the point,
right? We are not, we are not avictim when we have the tools.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Working with plant medicine has been a huge
teacher in being traumainformed because plant medicine
is more of a dense energybecause it's from the earth and
body and it can shift you intoa really different state of
consciousness very quickly. Andwhen you are used to feeling
everything all the timeanyways, and you're highly

(49:30):
perceptive or you are, youknow, a healer, it can create
such an intense shift in yourexperience that you feel your
soul split. And it can be verytraumatic and it will take a
long time longer than most foryou to reintegrate that
experience and understand it.
It could be very challengingbecause it's just stimulating

(49:53):
so much lower vibrational lifeforce. Not that lower
vibrational is negative. It'spart of how we operate
physically, and we need tolearn how to clear out some of
the physical , um, imbalancesthat we have in not feeling
safe or grounded or healthy inthis body. But what I've
learned as a sensitive personis not all medicine is for me,

(50:16):
I need to say no and be able tohonor it and not be manipulated
into, or manipulate myself intoconvincing myself that I can do
it or that I have to do it or Ineed to prove something. Um,
being able to lower my dosage.
So working with the elementsand especially fire as well.

(50:38):
Fire one of fire's , um,element of fire's teachings is
modulation. So when we're , um,at a safe distance, but kind of
in proximity to fire, it's sucha warm, beautiful, safe
feeling. It's , uh, protectiveand , um, passionate and , um,

(50:59):
we melt kind of feeling. Butwhen we are too close, it is so
activating and challenging andthere's so much friction
sensationally in our body. Soone lesson I've learned is that
you have agency when traumahappens. It's because we didn't

(51:20):
have control. It's somethingthat happened to us and we felt
overwhelmed by our capacity torespond. So agency is really
important because now we canmodulate how much we would like
and how little we would like,and how fast and how slow all
of these things and put downthose boundaries that are
actually the more we get usedto our boundaries. Very , um,

(51:42):
they're not rigid boundaries.
They're kind of flexible,depending on honoring every
single moment that we feelright now. If we feel we can
have some more, we can. Soworking with different , um,
plant medicines have , um,really taught me about how to
receive healing from the earththat, you know , is as most ,

(52:06):
um, beneficial for my highestgood and as most compassionate
as possible. And that I'mactually an active co-creator
in the experience of learningand dancing with that plant,
rather than just being apassive bystander that allows
things to happen to me, whichis not empowering at all.
You're a sovereign being hereto learn and you don't have to

(52:28):
do things that you don't wantto, or you have the choice to
do it in the way that you feelgives you the most , um,
pleasurable , um, joyful andconsensual experience.
So very deep teachings from theearth.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah, and I really resonate with , um, what you've
just said about connecting inand connecting in with that
denser energy this year,because I love my yoga and I
love my kundalini yoga, and itmakes me as high as a kite. I
will tell you, I've haveactually been asked to step
away quite a lot from that thisyear. And it's been difficult

(53:11):
because that's space that Ilove to be in. But Mary
Magdalene has really steppedforward for me over the last
two years and has really taughtme to work from this earthly
space and cleared out my lowerchakras, and we've done a lot
of grounding work. Um, and ,uh, yeah , so I can really

(53:33):
relate to that, to coming backto those , uh, the , that
earthly presence. And I thinkthat's also because, you know,
2024 , um, we have to hold adifferent space. Um, it's not
gonna be the same space thatwe've held over the, you know,
and the same challenges thatwe've had over the last five
years. We are going to need tobe more grounded in our energy

(53:55):
, um, and have cleared outthat, that , uh, lower chakra
trauma , um, which can bereally difficult. So, you know,
I'm just wondering, you know,that kind of makes me think
about this topic of remothering because I feel like
Mary Magdalene has in a way remothered me from , uh, the

(54:17):
ground up. You know, I've hadso many teachings over the
years from Mary, mother Mary,and as you know, she holds a
beautiful essence, you know, inthe, in the higher chakras. But
, uh, I've had the re motheringin the lower chakras, which, so
a a lot of people have , uh,they have a preference of where

(54:37):
they work from, right? And mypreference has always been to
work from the higher area,because that's what I've been
doing really since I was achild. So , um, it's, you know,
I'm, I'm, I have so much PiscesEnergy in my chart, and so I've
been a teacher to that for solong and you know, as I've been

(54:58):
told in many past lives aswell. So that's so easy for me.
But when I've gotta come intothis grounding earth energy, it
can be really difficult. And soshe has given me this space of
re mothering over the last fewyears, and I can slowly feel ,
uh, the, this meeting. So Ibelieve that from what I've
seen, there's , there's amidpoint and , uh, there's a

(55:21):
midpoint within the body, andthe higher and the lower
frequencies can meet eachother. And I think it's how
well you can learn to balancethose is really , uh, how well
you are going to be able toconnect into your intuition ,
um, and live , uh, I guess thisspiritual journey from a very

(55:43):
grounded space. Because a partof her work is teaching us how
to co-create from the wombspace. Um, and as you were
talking about this, this, thisessence of co-creation and, and
creating with these floweressences, which, you know, to
me, the flower essence, everyflower has a goddess or a

(56:06):
mother that corresponds withit, with and with that , that
vibration. So we've really beenled back to that space this
year, and it's been difficultfor me without those practices,
but I've had to learn otherpractices , uh, which has been
really great as well. Um, but Ican feel, I'm being called back
to, back to the Kundalini aswell, very slowly, but they're

(56:28):
like, take it slowly, don'ttake it fast, because all these
different integrations, youknow, as I said, that's, that's
a two year integration for mewith Mary Magdalene. That's not
a couple of weeks. Um, so whenI'm gonna be moving back into
those high frequencies , um,and doing Kundalini again, I'll
probably only start with 15 or20 minutes a day. So how does

(56:52):
the re mothering come in foryou? And I know that you've
also held the space of remothering for other people ,
um, and you also offer thesebeautiful , uh, ceremonial tea
teas as well , um, along withthe flower essences. So how
does the re mothering come infor you?

Speaker 2 (57:12):
I really resonate with , uh, that my comfort zone
would be more the upperchakras. Um, and it took a
while to feel how I could notreally , um, exist physically
as a human being with all ofthe shifts that I felt in those

(57:32):
upper chakras without clearingthe trauma of my lower chakras.
I could , I was so ungrounded,I was always stuck in astral
and like daydreaming and justlike not being a productive
member of society in a humanway, quote unquote . And , um,
you know, just having all of these realizations and

(57:54):
shifts in my reality andfeeling more peace of mind, but
then not necessarily sharingthat out into the world for so
many different reasons. Um, andso then there was a split in a
way from the upper , um, lowerparts of my body. Um, and the

(58:14):
more that I've done work withherbal energetics, because like
you said, each herb, eachplant, each flower has their
own spirit guide. And I cameand stumbled upon , um,
shamanic training and learninghow to hold space and ceremony

(58:36):
, um, and realize that all ofthe skills I'd learn from
connecting with the spirits ,um, of ascended masters,
angelic realms, galacticrealms, Syrian star seeds , um,
past lives in Atlantis and LeMi and et cetera , that I could
use those skills to speak tothe plants as well. And they

(59:01):
have very specific energeticsignatures that they teach us
and initiate us into. But it'sa slow medicine because the
energy of these plants is alower vibrational frequency. It
, um, allows us to clear thoselower chakras of feeling

(59:23):
centered within ourself andable to have stability. One
thing I would always have withthe upper chakras was feeling
like I couldn't stabilizeeverything I was feeling. I
would have an experience and itwouldn't be fully integrated in
my , um, whole reality of how Iwas living life and moving
through the world. But now somany things have manifested

(59:47):
physically from my connectionand work with different teas.
So with re mothering , um, thistea ceremony and , um, zen
meditation immersion andworkshop that I was
facilitating, which will be ,um, reintegrated and changed
into a mentorship , um, inabout, i , I feel it's coming

(01:00:11):
in 2025, so not next year, butthe year after. It's a lot of
moving parts in that. But thatpart of my work was really
about integrating so manydifferent tools into one
experience. Um, we had spaceholders of grandmother mug Watt
who holds the energy of thewitchy chrome . She's a

(01:00:36):
beautiful , um, guide in shadowintegration. And she was the
first plant , um, spirit thatcame to me and allowed me to
communicate with all of theflowers and the flower essences
that I work with. She is forshadow integration and psychic
protection and lucid dreamingand allowing us to go into the

(01:01:00):
underworld. And she's thatwitch that goes, you have
nothing to be scared of, child,be brave. Let me take you there
to meet all of your shadows andyou know, I'm not gonna do the
work for you, but I trust youthat you know what to do and
you have all the tools. So sheis that space holder , um, that

(01:01:22):
is a bit masculine in theprotective side. Um, she's not
like the soft , uh, lovingmother . She's more like, you
know, a bit bossy and talkative, but , um, she gets you
to do the work she believes inyou. She has that validation
that masculinity does, but alsoshe's holding space. So there's

(01:01:44):
a lot of feminine work in theshadow. She helps us. She's a
Chinese medicine herb and manyother ancient traditions. She
allows us to move qi and clearstuck energy, particularly
trauma, and she's very potentfor the womb. So once I started
working with her, I had so manyvisions of past lives being a

(01:02:06):
medicine doctor, like ma malepast lives , um, especially
working with , um, mug wartsmoke and herbs, and she's just
helped me a lot with healingthe emotional suppression and
ancestral karma that I had inmy room of being able to create

(01:02:32):
from an aligned place. Therewas just a lot of masculine
energy of , um, force and , um,non pleasurable
self-sacrificing , um,perfectionistic tendencies ,
um, a lot of gut issues andoverthinking and it coming from

(01:02:52):
an intellectual place , um,coming from an egoic place of
what it needs to be rather thanallowing things to come through
the portal of my sacred temple.
Um, so many sessions of cryingand releasing and feeling like
a woman of the world, and thatwhatever's clearing from me is

(01:03:13):
clearing from the collective aswell. And yeah, a lot of grief
and a lot of pain and a lot ofsuffering for what women have
gone through over millennia,all of that suffering. Um, all
of that emotional abandonmentand abuse , um, and sexual as
well. So , um, the other spaceholder and plant tea that we

(01:03:38):
work with in the ceremony isRose, mother Rose. And , um,
whilst Mugwort has this linearmoving energy that's helping us
flush things out and come backinto flow , um, and clear
shadows, rose has this verydiffuse, expanding soft energy

(01:04:01):
that allows us to surrender tothe discomfort of whatever's
moving through us and come backinto trust of love and being
held again and releasing allthe pain and fear. So I work
with, I think one of my mainguides is actually Anna
Grandmother of Jesus. She was amedicine woman. She was , um, a
kind of secret , um, backgroundpart of their scene , um,

(01:04:26):
tradition that allowed , um,the birth of Mary to happen and
then therefore Jesus. So shewas setting up the grid for all
of that stuff to happen. Andshe was both a wisdom keeper
with the men in the caves , um,in charge of sharing and
translating , um, manydifferent wisdom teachings. And

(01:04:48):
also she was a midwife andmedicine woman who worked with
plants and medicinal healing.
So she comes through in thatworkshop as well as Marian , as
well as . Andthey're all holding space for
us to go into our inner child,which I feel is in my sacral,

(01:05:11):
in my womb. And it's thatinnocent, pure, vulnerable,
beautiful light of energy ofthat, you know, I vision the
child's twinkling eyes and whenthey're hurt, they're so hurt,
and when they're happy, they'reso happy, it's unfiltered, it's

(01:05:31):
raw, and it's about how we canhonor the vulnerabilities and
desires and dreams of thisuntainted innocent pair of
eyes. And so when we do remothering the inner child work,
we have the sana , which helpsus to , um, investigate into
where it is in our body, howit, how the trauma is

(01:05:53):
presenting, and asking theright questions in compassion,
meditation and energy work, andasking the, the, the tea to
help us and our spirit guidesto say, Hey , um, I know you're
feeling anger right now andit's in your stomach. Can we
hold space for this? What isunderneath this? Usually it's

(01:06:16):
fear, like a lot of challengingemotions boil down to fear. And
then it's like, okay, what doesthat part of us need? Rather
than antagonizing it or shamingit or feeling overwhelmed by it
being the mother of that childand giving that child the
non-reactive, safe,compassionate, caring,

(01:06:37):
curiosity existing as thatlarger space so that inner
child can be small and blossomand show its true feelings ,
um, and honoring your realhuman emotions. Um , there,
that's part of the unraveling,so that that child can feel
soothed and get the nurturing,it's always needed and have its

(01:06:59):
deeper needs met. Becauseunderneath all of the issues
that are happening in our lives, um, that may manifest
externally or internally,depending on how aware you are,
mirroring, like you weresaying, is an unmet need, is a
need for belonging, validation,respect. If you have anger, a

(01:07:21):
lot of the time you've had yourboundaries , um, disrespected ,
um, or you need more protectionof yourself from other people
or a situation , um, when youfeel sad, there's an honoring
of grief that needs to happenand so that you can accept what
was before and what is now soyou can move on. So hidden

(01:07:43):
underneath all these emotions,energy and motion is a sacred
invitation from our inner childto really reclaim , um,
suppressed parts of ourselvesthat just need love and just
need witnessing. At the end ofthe day, we are not here to
disrupt the child , um, naturalhealing tendencies. Our bodies

(01:08:05):
have a natural intelligence anduniversal intelligence, and if
we can allow them the spacethrough these practices to just
witness them and allow them to, um, heal themselves, they can
feel their own power. So it'snot about like trying to fix it
or analyze it or solve it or dothe work for that inner child.

(01:08:27):
It's about being the mother andsaying, holding that beautiful
energy of, ah , this is anger,ah , this is pain, you are
valid. Um, let me hold you withlove and we can hold it
together. And slowly that childcan sue itself because it
begins to resonate with thepart of you that is loving

(01:08:49):
awareness. You stay as thatloving awareness and then that
part that feels separate fromit, scared, hurt, et cetera, it
can start to find its own wayhome again. And then we re
mothered that part of us thatalways needed extra care that
we didn't know how to hold. Soit's a very powerful emotional
regulation tool, but it's adeeply spiritual tool as well,

(01:09:13):
because we get to reclaim ourwholeness.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
When did this spiritual calling come to you
and when was that decision foryou to, to step onto the
spiritual path and, and be ableto walk into these different ,
uh, different things that, thatyou offer, you know, step into
your soul work ?

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
I started with , um, being a very curious child and
wanting to know why foreverything. And so I actually
started, started becauseschooling only allowed the
opportunity to learn science to, for that being the answer to
things and why things were andhow to live a good life. So

(01:10:02):
that found me in , um, being atuniversity, learning anatomy,
physiology, cutting up cadavers, um, crazy stuff, wild stuff,
volunteering at neurosciencelabs , um, and only just
starting to hear thatmeditation was slowly making
its way through into science,but not really quenching that
need deep down for me about whythings were and the more deeper

(01:10:30):
down science I went, you know,empirical evidence and all of
that. It's more about questionsthan answers, right? It's more
about , um, all the things wedon't know. And I realized that
the answer wasn't here for mein this kind of paradigm. Um,
my godmother, my auntie, whowas my godmother, Corina, she

(01:10:53):
was the one who kind of showedme a different way of being. I
was lucky in that my initiationand awakening wasn't from
hitting a , a rock bottom as somany people have and finding
that there needs to be anotherway. It was a bit more of a
positive experience in that Iremember her , um, in my

(01:11:15):
childhood as being this oldersister kind of figure that I
would get very fiery andannoyed with being a Leo rising
and her being a Leo. Um, wewould just always devolve into
like getting angry at eachother. And she went to
Singapore for a few years andcame back a different person,
and I said, what do you knowthat I don't know . Tell me

(01:11:37):
everything. . Iwas like, you are so different.
. No longer was shethis irritating teacher for me,
but um, rather someone tofacilitate , um, a new way of
seeing things. So she told meabout , um, a llama who she was

(01:11:58):
learning from, who was acomparative , um, Eastern
religion professor and wouldteach philosophy through the
lens of Buddhism, yoga andHinduism. And , um, I went to
one of his retreats with herand um, his partner as well,

(01:12:18):
and had this profoundawakening. I was sitting in the
hall and he was speaking aboutthe nature of reality and , um,
the path of eastern philosophyand freedom from your suffering
and realizing you just reallymind me. I don't know if I can
swear, but my mind was blownand ev I had this huge sense of

(01:12:45):
peace come through , um, inthat I finally had a sort of
compass in life andexplanations to questions that
I've always had and didn't evenknow I had. Um, it was like
there was only me and him inthe room and everything he said

(01:13:06):
I felt truly that I had heardbefore. And that's when I
started believing in past livesbecause I knew in this body, I
had not heard that before, butI felt this familiarity that
was just beyond , um, and I wasjust locked into everything he
was saying , um, from thesetradi traditions and , um, all

(01:13:27):
the wisdom traditions. So Ifollowed this path of
meditation and um, it led me toleaving university and studying
deeper. And it gave me a senseof both peace and also grief

(01:13:47):
and acceptance of how far I hadto go, because now I had this
path laid out in front of methat offered what I so desired
and showed me also the thingsthat were holding me back,
which at that point in time wasme being so hard on myself and
so cruel to myself , um, andbeing hypercritical at that
point because if you aretraining in science and have

(01:14:11):
this idea of wanting to becomea doctor or being very high
achieving, it can be a lot ofdensity in that self-judgment
and critical pushing andpushing and perfecting and
achieving. So it was verytiring. I had a lot of anxiety
and meditation was my firstlove. And it is the deepest ,

(01:14:34):
um, training that I havebecause it underlies all the
work I do. It's the reason whyI can sense spirits. It's the
reason why I get messages. It'sthe reason why I feel energy so
vividly, but also so clearlynow over time it's purified ,
um, and not been overwhelming,but also been very truthful in

(01:14:55):
what I receive , um, andallowed me to be an energy
healer for myself and thereforehold space for other people
through so many tools, throughsound drumming, crystal balls ,
um, helping people connect toplant spirits and hear them ,
um, matching them to matchingthe flower spirits and flower

(01:15:16):
senses to their people and whatemotional and energetic
imbalances that they're needingright now to clear and creating
a , a space through ceremonialwork and through workshops that
give people that experience oftaking them where they are and
including that and opening upthat into a new reality of what

(01:15:39):
it could be.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Where can people find you and connect with your
offerings?

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
So you can find me on Instagram. Um, my Instagram
name is Soul Flower Seeds , um,which comes from a lot of the
stuff we've spoken about,planting that seed of awakening
and blossoming through all theflowers as well, which is funny
because I chose that namebefore I initiated with flower
essences and realize thesynchronicity between my name ,

(01:16:08):
um, Jasmine and all the flowersas well. Um, if you would like
to follow the journey andchannel messages and be updated
about events , um, rituals aswell that I show practices for
energy , energy meditation. Um,also I'll be launching my new

(01:16:33):
website. I currently have anold one at the moment, my new
website , um, you can find onmy Instagram as well. Um , but
next year I'll have , um, someexciting new offerings , um,
which will be a flower essencemaking workshop and tea
ceremony , um, where I'll teachyou divination tools and plant

(01:16:55):
spirit communication so thatyou can , um, be matched
energetically to your flowerguides, make your own custom
blend, and then take them withme in ceremony with , um, mug
wood and roast tea and have ajourney , um, through different
energetic attunement,meditations and sound. And then

(01:17:17):
also a , um, tea ceremonyoffering as well for those who
just prefer to receive and notbe more interactive with
making. So they're going to be, um, launched and shared , um,
sometime early next year. And Ialso do , um, a collaboration
with my partner Simon , who isa beautiful and powerful

(01:17:41):
shamanic cacao ceremonialist.
We hold cacao ceremony together, um, and I hold space for ,
um, the meditation channeling ,um, portion. He holds space for
the cacao blessing, andtogether we hold space for the
sound and energy healing thatcomes through. And we usually ,

(01:18:04):
um, pair the cacao with aflower, a medicinal flower
infusion and flower essencesthat are relevant to the energy
of that group, which is , um, alittle intuition ritual we do
before we have ceremony to feelinto what energies want to be
birthed through us. So everyceremony that I hold and I hold

(01:18:26):
with my partner as well is veryintuitively held according to
the energetic needs that Iattune into and feel into
through my guides as well onthat day. And , um, you never
really know what is gonna comethrough in any of those
offerings. Also, I will, I ,um, have an eight week , um,

(01:18:52):
zen ana course, which is about, um, Buddhist philosophy and
learning just the real corebasics of Vipassana as a way of
self-awareness and self-energyhealing. And that incorporates
also compassion practices. Welook into somatic resourcing
and a little bit of compassionin a child integration and

(01:19:15):
trauma sensitivity, and workingwith , um, wounding patterns
through meditation as well.
That's an online course. Andthere will be other offerings
that I'll be launching , um, inthe next year's mentorship ,
um, sharing all of thepractices that have been woven

(01:19:38):
and developed over time.

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