Jerome Zoran brings you a unique real world experience, combining rare spiritual throat chakra activation practices with the 2 billion year old power of the Shungite Stone. Jerome’s spiritual development path has taken him on a deep and beautiful journey with the Goddess and with many other Divine Beings. He is an initiated Priest of Goddess Isis, and serves the Divine Feminine and Masculine in Glastonbury.
For more than fifteen years, Jerome has created healing soundscapes and musical meditational journeys, helping people heal deep wounds and trauma and raise their spiritual frequency, enabling them to embody their higher self.
Over the last ten years, Jerome has been achieving great results with his clients using his own unique methods of working with Shungite and Sacred Sounds. You can find Jerome on Instagram @jeromezoran
Explore Jeromes Healing and Spiritual Offerings:
Read Jerome's book - shungitelight.com
Listen to Jerome's Sacred Sounds - jrokka.com
Explore his Youtube Channel - youtube.com/c/JeromeZoranSacredSound
Using Shungite to Boost your Electro Magnetic Field - youtu.be/WLFvy9H__tE
This special conversation with Jerome is a two part series with part two to be released next week.
In this Episode we talk about:
- Jerome's spiritual awakening journey
- His story of connecting with crystals with his dad
- Jerome's professional music background and his success within the orchestra
- Exploring musical instruments, bands and different styles of music
- Jerome's experience with the cello and his expansion into sacred sound
- His story in finding music that connected more with his soul
- The Goddess Temple with Cathy Jones and his mum
- Jerome's story of his accident and then having to end his career as a cellist
- His dark night of the soul journey that led him into the spiritual world
- Jerome says that 'knowledge' is everything
- Jerome's rock bottom then into working with his mum and Cathy Jones
- Glastonbury's Sacred Womb Goddess Conference and Cathy Jones asking him to create sacred sound for the Goddess
- After his spiritual awakening Jerome began making music for the Goddess
- Music and the heart centre
- The Goddess reclaiming the world
- Trauma, darkness and then into the light
- Jerome's mum's story (Sally) of his dad's accident
- Jeromes mum's story (Sally) into her awakening with Master Chung Fu
- Being a Master of your own destiny
- Jerome's Spirit Guide and Akashic Records awakening
- Channeled sessions with Master Chung Fu
- Goddess Mother Isis devotion and channeling the Goddess
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Jerome. It's so lovely to have you on the
podcast today to talk aboutyour spiritual journey and
share your deep interest inShanghai Crystals, the Ancient
Art of Sacred Sound, and yourconnection with Ascended Master
Chung Fu. Welcome to thepodcast. Can you share a little
bit about yourself and thespiritual work you offer?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Thank you, rose Mother . It's so beautiful to
be on with you today. It's areal honor. I'm from Avalon
Glastonbury, otherwise known asthe Ancient Isle of Avalon. And
my bio in short is I help youdissolve pain using shungite
(00:47):
crystals and the power of yourown sacred sound. And I've been
working with a big family mywhole life. And so what I teach
is how to, in a sense, do thesame. 'cause I can say it
(01:09):
hasn't been easy, and there'sbeen many struggles I've risen
out of and into what you mightcall the joy or the light. So
yeah, that's what I do.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Beautiful. I would say actually that you're
probably in the minority ofpeople that I've met who've
grown up in , uh, a morespiritual environment. So I
think it's really beautifulthat we've got you here to tell
your story. Yeah. I'm reallyinterested for you to share
where your spiritual journeystarted and how you were called
(01:46):
into the spiritual work youoffer today.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
My father gave me my first crystal when I was 17. No
, hang on. I was a bit younger.
I was about 14, 15. No , I hadmy first session with my
teacher at 17. That's whatit's, my father gave me my
first crystal. I think itstarted there and my family
(02:15):
were, let's just say in theeighties. It , it wasn't normal
crystals. People didn't know.
My family was called thecrystal family because people
didn't know about crystals. Andso that was really my father,
my mom too. But my mom's strokeof genius was a different area.
(02:41):
So yes, it started with myfather giving me my first
crystal, which was a clearquartz that actually looked
like a little person playingthe guitar or the bass. It was
quite funny actually. So yes,it sort of, it hinted as soon
as he handed it to me, ithinted of somebody playing
(03:03):
music.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah . So it was like an activation.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah. It, it opened up, I think it was my dad's way
of bonding with me and saying,I want you to have this gift.
And he told me how special itwas, but he didn't, he didn't
go too far with it. He justwanted me to receive the gift
in the way that I couldunderstand it for myself.
That's where it started. Ialways say with all these
(03:30):
questions, when people ask me,I always say, but wait, there's
more. Because, you know, Icould talk about that for
several hours, but I'll stopthere.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
And it's similar for me too . My grandmother loved
crystals and , uh, she was thefemale mother in my life, and
she actually had crystals thatwould sit in a place where we
couldn't touch them becausethey were over on the other
side of a winding steelstaircase, so nobody could
(04:04):
actually reach them. But shealways said, something happens
to me, you can have thesecrystals. Well, I guess it's
sort of similar, isn't it?
Because they're not telling thestory, but the presence is
there.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah. I love that.
Yeah. Well, I'm, I'm nearly thesame, but I do let, I , I'm not
like precious about, so forexample, about several years
ago, I got this piece here,this is 24 Kara Tanzanite. If I
shone a torch through it, itwould blow your mind. The
(04:39):
colors are off, off the scale.
Deep blues, violets, purples ,uh, it's extraordinary. You
might think that's tooexpensive for , for you to
allow other people to touch.
What if they drop it? But Idon't look at it like that
because it's not really mine.
(05:00):
It's Mother Earth's. Hmm . It'scoming to my possession for me
to work with it and to assistin a works, but yes, okay. My
inner child would say, no, youspent 7,000 pounds on that, and
that's yours, mate. Butactually, it's not mine. It's
borrowed. Mm-Hmm .
(05:21):
, you know, oneday when I, when I'm gone, it
will go back into the earth andit will carry on growing. So
that's extraordinary, isn't it?
. But yeah, I don't lookat it like, you know, some
people are like, don't touch mycrystal. And you're like, oh,
sorry, I , I I forgot.
But yeah , it's interestingwith crystals, I mean, I do
(05:43):
have certain crystals, whichjust by definition you can't
touch them because they're,they're not, they're not
visible or accessible. But I'lltalk about that later.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
. Yeah . Yeah
. And that brought up for me
like a couple of weeks ago, Ihad my two little nieces stay
over and they stayed in mybedroom, and I called it the
crystal room because I have alot of crystals. And
the funniest thing was theytook the crystals out into the
lounge room that they, thatthey loved, and they also took
(06:17):
those home. So , sothey now have a very big
collection of crystals,, and I'm pretty sure they'll
wanna come back to Arnie Mel'shouse very soon. .
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That happens with my she guy all the time, by the
way. But that's, that's allright . If they wander off with
a piece of that, as long asit's grade two, I'm all right .
Speaker 1 (06:37):
.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
If it's grade one, I'm after the , I'm coming
after their pocket money.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
. Yeah . They
mostly
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Get it. They mostly get it for free, but yeah.
Yeah, that's , that's anothersubject. The kids normally just
run off with whatever theywant, and you've just gotta go.
Okay, , they've got afree crystal
Speaker 1 (06:58):
. So
often you work with your mum ,
Sally, who is a deeptransmedium and a priestess.
Can you share some of the workyou've been creating together
of late and perhaps what it islike to work so closely with
your mom ?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Absolutely. It's a lot. So I will, you just said
some, so I'm, I'm going tostick with some, because
there's, there's hundreds ofreleases. Like, it's, it's a
big, it's a big work. So itstarted really, there's lots of
(07:37):
avenues and different pathwaysof how that work has been
created. So I'll go with, I'llstart with the music and I'll
give you a little bit ofbackstory , um, a bit of
context rather than juststarting in a way further down
the track. So if I go back abit before serious school kind
(08:02):
of started in that sense, mymother said, you need to pick
an instrument to study is ,it's gonna help you develop
your brain and sacredmathematics. And all of that is
involved with, when you studyan instrument, you're, you're
involving a different part ofyour brain. So I picked the
(08:24):
cello, well, first I picked theviolin, but I was like, that's
not for me. I then picked thecello and then I began to play
that. And you call it whiningbecause , you know, you try and
play Twinkle twinkle littlestar at six years old, and it
just sounds absolutelyterrible. But anyway, I
persevered. I had to, mom waslike, you have to keep going.
(08:47):
So I was getting privatetuition from a local lady in
the next village called HelenLund . And eventually I reached
a pretty decent level. I thenpersevered. I was in the local
chamber orchestra, and Ieventually reached lead rank,
and I had 10 cellos behind methat I was leading. At the age
(09:11):
of 15, I was playing tohundreds of people on stage on
the cello. But something openedin me where I realized,
although I love this kind ofmusic, but there is a beauty in
it, it wasn't feeding my soul.
It wasn't really totally doingit for me. It wasn't a complete
(09:35):
recipe. So I began to expandand I said, now I want to learn
double bass . So I began tostudy jazz classics, walking
bass , and I began to take mystudies further into that
world. And then I thought,after a long time, this is
(09:56):
after like starting a jazz bandand everything, I was like,
this is lovely, but it's stillnot doing it for me. So I then
started to learn kind of almostat the same time, whilst I was
still into the jazz, I bought aFretless bass because all these
instruments, they have nofrets, they're fretless. So I
(10:17):
bought a , a beautiful Fretlessbass and started to study
fusion jazz , um, with funk,really, it was funk, sort of
funk, jazz, fusion,experimental and improv. And I
had two little buddies, Jasonand Sharma . Sharma was the,
(10:40):
the piano player. Jason was thedrummer. And we would start to
write our own stuff. And that'swhen a new band formed called,
or jazz mix , original jazz mixafter that , um, acronym. And
then I thought, well, this isreally lovely, but I'm just
still not there. So then Ibegan to, we call it sampling
(11:03):
or chopping up. So I began torecord my own strings on the
cello and resample them. And Ibegan to now branch into
production, making hip hopbeats and sampling things and,
and experimenting. I was justall about experimenting and ,
(11:25):
and expanding into what I nowcall the , the sound, the
sound, the sound that opens meup, makes me feel that I am
actually connected big time. Sothat opened up that road and I
was terrible at it at first,producing and making things,
(11:47):
the , it all sounded terrible.
And then I pushed further. Andthat's what led me into having
a part in our brother's bandcalled House of Commonness .
It's a play on words, meaningit's music for the common
people. It's music to upliftthe spirit and uplift the soul.
(12:07):
So conscious rap, hip hop ,basically, we had that band for
10 years running, then Covidcame along and it killed it
because we couldn't play. Sothat band, unfortunately, very
sadly, it , it did die withthat. Um, it reformed under a
different name, but my brotherand I, my brother was the lead
(12:30):
mc . He's the most incrediblewriter of lyrics. I mean, the
kind of lyrics when you hearthem, you're just not the same
after you hear them, they are,they are next level at they're
beautiful there , vivid. Soyeah, my brother and I work
together in , in that world.
But if I backtrack a bit in ohnine, after going to Argentina
(12:54):
with my mother for the firstever opening of a branch of
Goddess Temple out there, I wasinvited out by Kathy Jones, who
co-founded the Goddess Templehere in Glastonbury, alongside
my mother. I was invited withmy mom to go out and perform
(13:16):
some sacred music that I wascomposing for the Goddess. I
will talk about that in aminute. But I want to start
with the story because in ohnine I had a , a really serious
accident, which completelybasically ended my career as a
(13:37):
cellist. So I was, I was very,very sort of pretty high level.
Everybody was after my cellofor their songs, for their
albums, for their music. Andthen in oh nine, I was washing
up in the sink on Boxing Day, Ipicked up a glass bowl turned
round to put it on the side,and it smashed in my hand and
it nearly locked my finger off.
(13:59):
And this was the first fingerof my left hand. And if you
look on the screen there,although everyone's listening,
audio only, I'm just showingthe rose mother here. There is
a massive scar on my leftfinger of my left hand. Mm-Hmm
, . And that is abig chop on , um, basically
each finger of your hands, eachfinger has its own chakra
(14:23):
system. So there's sevenchakras on each finger , and
there's seven chakras in thehand . So I was chopped right
on the root chakra of the leftfinger on my left hand, which
is also called your Jupiterfinger, which is very
interesting because later I'mgonna talk about s shungite .
And this crystal shangai comesfrom ter . So I, I , I looked
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down and my finger was hangingoff my hand and I could see
about an inch of my skeleton.
And I can't tell you how Ifreaked the F out. I mean, I
seriously freaked out. And notonly that was freaking out
seeing, well, it was like ahorror show because there was ,
there was blood all up thewalls, there was blood
(15:10):
everywhere. And I, I just, Iwas just like, right, well get
ahold of yourself buddy. Grab atea towel. Well, actually, my
sister-in-law grabbed the teattowel 'cause she was also in
the kitchen, wrapped up myfinger, went down to hospital
and they were like, sorrybuddy. There's no hand
specialist here. You're gonnahave to go to the, the next
(15:33):
city an hour away. So we drovethere and they were
like, really sorry. But the ,uh, the hand specialist of the
southwest of England, which islike, there's only two hand
specialists in England, they'reon holiday. And I was like,
right, so you can't help me.
Then basically, no, we can'thelp you have some butterfly
(15:54):
stitches. I was like, great.
They then sent me home and Iwas in bed. Basically. I lacked
knowledge. I think the thingabout this show right now is I
hope that what I'm saying toyour listeners, that they get
to learn some things I'vefigured out. So here's one
takeaway that I hope a veryserious takeaway, which is
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knowledge is everything. Ilacked the knowledge that if
I'd have told them one speciallittle phrase, this finger is
my livelihood. This finger letsme play cello. That's my life,
that's my career. You have tocall them by law, you have to
get them here now to work on meright now, I could have done
(16:41):
that, but I lacked thatknowledge. I didn't know that.
So hey, that wasn't the planfor me though, was it? My
guides were like, no, Jerome,we have a different road for
you, my friend. So they sent mehome and I was in bed, but five
days and five nights. And bythe end of it, every day I was
(17:03):
in absolute agony. And I waslooking at my finger and I saw
the black creep up . By theend, the black was all the way
to the tip of my finger. And Ithought, holy Jesus, they're
just gonna take my finger.
Anyway, they didn't take it. Idid go to hospital and I was in
(17:27):
the operating theater for sevenhours, 45 minutes all
anesthetic. When I came to, Iwas a lucky boy. They did fix
my finger, but I lost a wholeinch of my tendon 'cause the
tendon retreated right into myhand. So they had to open up my
(17:48):
hand and pull the tendon up tojoin it together. When I woke
up, I was, I'd never in my lifefelt the kind of pain that I
was feeling. It was just,there's no words for it. It
was, it was out of this worldagony. You know? I said, give
me morphine, just , just giveme a lot. Just keep giving it
(18:10):
to me. It didn't really help tobe honest with you. 'cause what
was happening was theelectricity was flashing down
to the end of all of thenerves, tendons, pully ,
tendons, arteries and trying tospark and make contact with the
freshly joined together on theother side. And it can only be
(18:35):
described as sparks of fire orif lightning. But on a macro
level, like if I was to blow upand go inside my own body, if,
if my body was like a mountainand I went inside it , it would
just be like thesethunderbolts, you know? So I
(18:58):
was in a , a real deepsituation. Suddenly I was like
not playing cello, not livingmy best life. My dad would
always call me Beamer, boy,everyone would, you know, I was
just different. 10 brothers andsisters. And in all the picks,
I'm kind of the one smilingmostly. But then coming from
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that to right , my life isover. I mean, my life is just
over. I'm not playing cello,I'm not playing bass, but I've
always been known as somebodyto take the advantage from a
bad situation. So what I did, Ibought a mic 'cause I was
producing, 'cause the melody,even though I was in pain, I
(19:45):
never stopped having melodypouring through. And so I
started singing. So what I'mtrying to say here is, no
matter the rock and the hardplace you feel you're trapped
in, there's always a way out ofit. And I can tell you
straight, I made sure that Ifound a way out of that hell.
(20:07):
'cause I was in it. I call itthe pits, or I call it rock
bottom. Um, but what was itreally? Just to finish off that
little backstory, which leadsto your original question of
how I started working with mymother. What came first, the
music came first and my guidesaid, it's all lovely what
(20:32):
you're doing. It said , but youknow, you have no idea what's
coming for you in the future,mate, alright ? Meaning in the
world, meaning the battle thatwe are in right now, a battle
of mind, a battle of frequency.
So they wanted to throw me,they just grabbed me and threw
me down into the pits where thebow rock was waiting for me.
(20:56):
But I did, I did defeat the bowrock . The bow rock was me or
my own inner darkness, or thedark matter or the black gold.
So I , I have discovered a wayof speaking about these places.
'cause my main interest is howquickly can we come out of
(21:16):
these deep places and into thelight because there's no time
to lose to enjoy our best life.
So that leads to Kathy Jonesasking me, she realized I could
make music for meditation. Shesaid, Jerome, would you make
the opening ceremony soundtrackto the, for the 2012 Sacred
(21:42):
Womb Goddess Conference? And ifyour listeners don't know, the
Glastonbury Goddess Conferenceis the biggest conference in
the world where teachers of thegoddess come from all over the
world. From any ki every kindof culture you can imagine to
teach deep, mystical, magical,powerful ways about the goddess
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and about how a divine womancan empower herself. 'cause
that's what's happening in thislife. Goddess is coming to say,
this is all mine and I'm takingcontrol now. It's now time for
the goddess to rise. So I'lltalk about that later 'cause
(22:30):
I've got a very excitingannouncement for you and for
your listeners about that. Butthat's where it started. Kathy
Jones and my mom , co-foundedthe Glastonbury Goddess Temple
here, which has been running 25years. And so I started making,
it came full cycle fromclassical music to jazz, to hip
(22:53):
hop , dubstep, drum and bass,funk and soul and all the rest
of it, all the way in to sacredmusic for goddess. And so it's,
it's interesting 'cause it'snot, it's not that normal. I
mean, I don't know many menaround here that say, I make
music for the Goddess .
There are, but I don't knowmany. You know? So that's where
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it started. And , and my motherand I did work together on that
first piece. So sorry about thelong answer, but I had to give
you a bit of backstory as tohow, 'cause you don't just
start making music for goddesswithout any depth and now
without any, any pain. It just,it , it isn't a thing to give
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you context. A mother givesbirth and it's blood and gore,
it's, it's pain, it's blood,sweat and tears. It's agony.
It's like, holy god, you know,most men will just run from
that birthing chamber. I can'thandle this. I'm outta here, in
(24:02):
my view, good music, it doescome from somebody who knows
deep struggle and has foundtheir way out of it and has
cleared out their heart center.
Why? So that the Heart Centeris a very real open channel
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vessel for the high cosmicsound of any being. Godes Isis
, White , TaraYeshua , Mary Magdalena,
mother, Mary Sec , met hat ,the list goes on. Shiva Esha
(24:45):
Saraswati , the deities of theShungite stone. I mean, the
list is, is nearly endless.
Archangel Rael , I've got someArchangel Rael frequencies
coming for you very soon. Butthat's the thing is you can't
do that if you don't know howto get access to the dark
(25:07):
matter within you and realizethat if you don't move that
stuff, 'cause it's not all bad.
So people have a mindset andthey say, that's terrible. Must
get rid of it. So that's what Ibasically teach and that's, it
did come from the pain ofnearly losing my finger. It
taught me.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Well, thank you firstly for sharing such a
deep, deep story. You know, Ithink it takes a lot to be able
to share your voice like thatand to be able to share your
heart like that. I know not allpeople can. So I really
appreciate , um, everythingthat you have shared and , um,
I know for sure, like, evenwhen I was listening to it, I
(25:51):
was referred back to my ownDark Night of the Soul, which
is what I call it. And Ithought, you know what? You
went so deep then I don't knowif I, if I could express what I
went through in such a deepway. So thank you very much for
sharing that.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Well, I'd love to hear it. Would you, would you
care to tell me a little bit?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well , it's a long, it is a it is a long
story. I can tell you a littlebit. So I would say that my ,
uh, my first dark night of thesoul was at age 11 , um, when
my sister was in a tragicaccident. And that was right ,
I think it was the weekendbefore I was supposed to start
(26:37):
high school. And unfortunatelyshe passed. She had passed away
, uh, already a couple of daysbefore that. So that was, I
think, my initiation and a biginitiation to go through at 11
years old. I think the biggestpart about it was the
(27:00):
aftermath. So I think , uh,when you're a child, you don't
have the capacity to expressgrief as well. I think
sometimes what our guides do isthey kind of shut us down
emotionally so that we don'thave to feel the pain of that
(27:23):
later. I did get to feel thepain, you know, the full
fledging pain of that. But ,uh, having to move through that
loss and having to, going backthat far ago, they just did not
have the tools to be able tohelp children move through
grief. So I would probably saylike, just to get really deep
(27:44):
here, it probably wasn't thebest idea to, for example, have
a young child in a room withhis sister who had just passed
away , uh, in a coffin, in asmall coffin, which was open
and having to sit there forhours at a time just sitting
there having to process that.
(28:05):
So sorry.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, I'm , I'm sorry that you, you know,
that's really powerful. Verydeep.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
So, I mean, there's so much to else, to the story,
but we are here to hear aboutyour story today. But I thank
you for helping me. And
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I would just like to say to you my mother who
channels Chung Fu and in thewords of my father, he believes
my mother is top three in theworld for deep trance
mediumship that he always saysto me, Chung Fu always says,
you know, loss is the biggestheart opener. Yes, indeed. It's
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beyond any words in the Englishdictionary of tragedy. It's
beyond any words you candescribe. But what he always
says is that every challenge ashard and as horrible as they
are, that pain, and this isalways some of the hardest
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teaching to receive fromascended beings, is that our
souls choose the myriad ofpathways for very certain, you
know, reasons. Now, I'm notsaying that our choose our
souls choose to experience likesometimes something like that
(29:27):
by choice. But that thingshappen that are very, very
difficult. So that our soul cangrow, can grow to the next
position of expansion. And nowthen draw in a vast light into
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the biggest chakra of ourbeings, which is the heart
chakra three above three below.
And he always says the heartchakra is the richest place in
the universe. And so when weexperience loss, the hardship
of it is it , it pushes usdeeper. The higher self is
(30:12):
found in the depths. And so myheart goes out to you sister,
and I'm so sorry for that lossthat you've experienced your
heart. I know, I mean, I I'vefelt you online. I've thought,
goodness me , that sister has adeep heart. What a special
(30:33):
lady. So you have found a waydeep in, and you are bringing
in even more light. But I liketo say that phrase in Lord of
the Rings, our pippin , butit's just the beginning. And so
we're in this dimensionality,who knows, your sister might be
(30:56):
right here with you right nowworking with you because
sometimes beings have a, adifferent missions and
different ways of accessingthis realm. But nonetheless, it
is deeply moving and my heartgoes out to you. And I think
(31:20):
it's not by chance that we'rehaving this chat together
because this is the work that Ido. People come to me who just
the other day, I , I workedwith a client, she just lost
her mum six months ago, andthen she just lost her sister
at 42 years old. So her sisterwas too young to go and she was
(31:44):
in such grief and I covered herhead to toe in the Shungite .
And we went in and we, youknow, I then began to bring her
my 15 years of what I havediscovered with Shanghai . So I
feel that, I know it's reallyhard, but our souls, and this
(32:08):
will be hard for people to hearbecause people will disagree
definitely. Because theteachings that come from the
ascended realms, they're noteasy. They're very hard. And
Chung Fu stands for innertruth. But what they bring is,
I love you, but your soul chosethat. And you're like, no , I
(32:31):
didn't Like, you can go back towherever you came from mate.
'cause I didn't choose that.
But it's what comes next. Andthere's a famous saying, I
can't remember who who said it,it's in a book I read. The
Obstacle is the Way. And if youhave the courage to go the way
of that obstacle and you know,with your power chatter and
(32:54):
break it and move on, andyou're like, oh, okay, now
look, I'm not, I'm not thereany, I'm not in that place
anymore. I've elevated or I'vegone deeper or I've gone higher
or I've shifted. So I'm sosorry you went through that.
(33:14):
But look at you now a greatlady, and thank you for telling
me a bit about your story.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Well, thank you for opening that up for me. I
wasn't expecting that today atall.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And now your tears are flowing
Speaker 1 (33:30):
. Yeah. So I
feel like for you, perhaps it
was music that led you on thepath to open you up. And for me
it was books. I know after thatI was sent away and I was very
alone. And so I went to thelibrary and after a little
(33:52):
while I found a section I wasonly, so I was only 11 and 12,
and I found a section, it wascalled the New Age section. And
this was early nineties, by theway, , there wasn't
many books in there, but Istarted collecting them and I
took them home by secret and Istarted reading them and uh,
(34:14):
and I started doing theexercises in them. And I think
that was where it all startedto open up. So, I mean, that's
a short version of the story,the longer version of the
story. I , I would love to
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Hear the long version one day. And I think
your re your listeners wouldtoo, you know, I think they'd
all agree with me.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, love
Speaker 2 (34:36):
To hear , love to hear the long version one day.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
So if you can, I mean, you've spoken a little
bit about Ascended Master ChungFu Um, are you able to tell us
a bit more about how you Iwould love to connected with
him.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I'm gonna , I'm gonna play you some music in
the background. Dunno if youcan hear that. Yep . So this is
a Tara charm that I composedaround my mum channeling Chung
(35:22):
Fu . It's called in the Templeof White Tara , volume one,
Tara chs with Ascent MasterChung Fu and myself, Jerome are
on , because for me, I alwayssay in , in the beginning was
(35:43):
the word. I didn't , I didn'tmake that up. That's what they
say. And the word was God. ButI have the idea that of course,
before words , it was sound. Sofor me, when words are put over
(36:05):
sound in a lovely way for aspecial intention to help you
open, to help you tune in, thisis very special for me. Like
this way of working, of puttingmusic over sound. And that is
(36:29):
how it all started really. Ibegan to work with Chung Fu,
who's been speaking through mymom for nearly half a century.
So I'll give you a little quicksummary. I won't do you long
story like the other one. Butyou know, the thing is, guys,
(36:53):
if you're all listening to menow, I think you'll agree that
you too have struggled in allkinds of ways. So the story
with Ascended master Chung Fu ,by the way, I do have to say
that he did not give himselfthat title of Ascended Master.
We did . He's very humble. Hecalls himself an ascended
(37:15):
being, but that is an ascendedmaster. He's a ninth
dimensional ninth ray .
Ascended being. So how itstarted back in the day is my
mom was married to a man andshe was deeply in love, but he
(37:35):
was very depressed. And heunfortunately took his own
life. Um , this was before mymom was channeling Chung Fu.
And what happened in the end isthat tragedy actually opened up
his heart. I just fade thetrack out there. And what
(37:58):
happened is she then openedfrom that tragedy into such a
deep place of trauma and shewas very disturbed, right? He,
he basically blew himself up ona motorbike. I mean, it , this
(38:19):
was no, like, I'll just go takemy own life stuff. This was
really very serious. My mom waslike only 20 at the time,
right? Just a young, a younglady. And then at the time,
she, she began to train. So itwas kind of just, when that
(38:40):
serious stuff happened, itreally is very serious. At the
time, she was just beginning totrain as a psychic with Ivy
Northridge , who back then wasvery kind of well known . She
ran a school in London, theSchool of Psychic Studies. I
(39:02):
don't know its exact name, butthis was back in the day, Ivy
Northridge , who channeled herown Ascender being , uh, master
Chan , I think . Don't quote meon that, but I think that was
the , her guide's name. And shewas helping my mom to bring her
gifts forward as a channel,basically. And back then they
(39:24):
used to shove you in thecloset. It was quite funny.
They shove you in a dark closetand they say, you know, just
let the , you know, just letyour , your guide. You know.
What happened really though, isone day my, my mom and my dad,
who were just friends at thetime , um, my dad caught my mom
(39:44):
as she collapsed on the ground.
She was very unhappy. One day,basically she collapsed on the
ground and was like frothing atthe mouth. And my dad thought,
mom's have my mom's having anepileptic fit or something. But
it wasn't that. It was, thatwas when , um, Chung Fu came in
for the first time. Now ChungFu has three names. We call him
(40:07):
the old Tibetan Old Chinese.
And back then they called himold Chinese. He came in and he
said, beloved, don't worry.
Like, in other words, thisbeing came in and started
speaking through Sally's mouthwhile she was frothing. 'cause
it was the first time that thebeing was coming through to
(40:28):
speak to my dad and say, haveno fear. This was planned way
before this life that I wasgonna come through in this life
and bring my teachings. Sothat's where it started. Many
years later, after Sally wasgiving personal sessions to
(40:48):
just private family members,really bringing the teachings
through the ascended teachings.
I then, after years ofbasically taking the out of all
this woowoo, like, who arethese weird people coming from
all over the world to see you?
Like, this is just a bit weird.
I was just a lad. I thentransitioned to like, well ,
(41:10):
I'm kind of curious. And then Isaid, mom , can I have a
session with this spirit guide?
So I then had my first sessionat 17, and that's when Chung Fu
and of course Chung Fus veryinteresting in how he asks you
questions about basicallywhat's not flowing right for
(41:31):
you, what's not going your way,what's not helping you become
the master of your life. And sonaturally you start saying,
what all the things that aregoing wrong, you know, and all
the things that you want to goright? And he starts to guide
you. And so that led into mefinding out that I had
(41:52):
incredible spirit guides , uh,a whole entire entourage of
different beings. And that'swhat really opened me up for
the first time of working withmy mum . And Chung Fu and Chung
Fu did tell me some issues andthings that happened in points
(42:12):
and times in my life, which I'dnever told anyone about. And
that just blew my mind. And nowthe whole Aash or AIC records
kind of area of , of study now,I, I completely believe in that
because of the way he told methings. Secrets, right? Not
(42:34):
secrets that I'm ashamed of,but just things that hurt me
that I didn't really know howto express or bring forward.
And so I was well and truly youcould say blown open about like
what is possible in this, inthis world. Like , and the
whole, like when a being hasfull of Caic record access,
(42:58):
they actually have full of Caicrecord access. And they know
about every life you've everlived, every good and bad thing
you've ever done, and everyexistence you've had across the
cosmos multiverse. So that'sextraordinary. But that's where
(43:18):
it started. And to cap off thatlittle question, since then,
I've had hundreds of sessionswith Chung Fu . So my mother is
extraordinary. And most peopledon't understand the kind of
connection that I have with mymother because it's not really
just mother and son. It's waymore than that. It's just,
(43:39):
we're buddies, we just hangout. And I'm lucky. All I can
say is I'm dead lucky becausethe kind of stuff my mom's
helped me through, I mean, I, Icouldn't even, I'd need about a
thousand hours or more to tellyou, and I don't mind. I'm an
open book. I've got nothing tohide. Im transparent. I tell
(44:03):
you straight. But Sally is anextraordinary lady, as I say,
she's top three in the world asfar as I'm concerned. I agree
with my dad. Hands down. Andthen it leads to finish, finish
off that question, thatconnection does lead in to me
working with God, ISIS, or Isay Isis because her name has
(44:26):
actually been taken by thathorrible faction, that war
mongering , militant, whoeverthe crap they are. So we don't
call her isis. Why Itransition? Because most people
only know her as that ancientEgyptian mother, ISIS. So I say
Isa , ISA as as she likes to becalled, or , or Isis . But that
(44:50):
it does lead into that. And itdoes lead into me going further
and deeper in to devoting mytemple musician musicianship,
if you will, and giving thatdevotion to her, but through
me, because goddess is in you.
So it's this , it's not aboutgiving your power to an outer
(45:15):
source. It's about channelingthe power for you first. 'cause
that's what we need. We needthat light within. We're here
to evolve, but then youredirect it out. So it's kind
of like up in, down, penetratethe darkness within, and then
out.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
And that concludes part one of the podcast with
Jerome. Part two will bereleased next week. And Jerome
talks about trans mediumship,universal divine laws. Jerome
opening up his channel forSacred Sound, opening up the
chakras and developing as achannel, manifesting a
(45:55):
relationship with s shungiteand divine love and getting
clear on what you wannamanifest, putting it on the
crystal grids and takinggrounded action. We also talk
about the brotherhood and thesisterhood wound healing for
men and Jerome's spiritual workwith priest es Sally, who is
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Jerome's mom . Thank you forlistening.
Hello, Jerome. It's so lovely to have you on the
podcast today to talk aboutyour spiritual journey and
share your deep interest inShanghai Crystals, the Ancient
Art of Sacred Sound, and yourconnection with Ascended Master
Chung Fu. Welcome to thepodcast. Can you share a little
bit about yourself and thespiritual work you offer?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Thank you, rose Mother . It's so beautiful to
be on with you today. It's areal honor. I'm from Avalon
Glastonbury, otherwise known asthe Ancient Isle of Avalon. And
my bio in short is I help youdissolve pain using shungite
(00:47):
crystals and the power of yourown sacred sound. And I've been
working with a big family mywhole life. And so what I teach
is how to, in a sense, do thesame. 'cause I can say it
(01:09):
hasn't been easy, and there'sbeen many struggles I've risen
out of and into what you mightcall the joy or the light. So
yeah, that's what I do.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Beautiful. I would say actually that you're
probably in the minority ofpeople that I've met who've
grown up in , uh, a morespiritual environment. So I
think it's really beautifulthat we've got you here to tell
your story. Yeah. I'm reallyinterested for you to share
where your spiritual journeystarted and how you were called
(01:46):
into the spiritual work youoffer today.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
My father gave me my first crystal when I was 17. No
, hang on. I was a bit younger.
I was about 14, 15. No , I hadmy first session with my
teacher at 17. That's whatit's, my father gave me my
first crystal. I think itstarted there and my family
(02:15):
were, let's just say in theeighties. It , it wasn't normal
crystals. People didn't know.
My family was called thecrystal family because people
didn't know about crystals. Andso that was really my father,
my mom too. But my mom's strokeof genius was a different area.
(02:41):
So yes, it started with myfather giving me my first
crystal, which was a clearquartz that actually looked
like a little person playingthe guitar or the bass. It was
quite funny actually. So yes,it sort of, it hinted as soon
as he handed it to me, ithinted of somebody playing
(03:03):
music.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah . So it was like an activation.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah. It, it opened up, I think it was my dad's way
of bonding with me and saying,I want you to have this gift.
And he told me how special itwas, but he didn't, he didn't
go too far with it. He justwanted me to receive the gift
in the way that I couldunderstand it for myself.
That's where it started. Ialways say with all these
(03:30):
questions, when people ask me,I always say, but wait, there's
more. Because, you know, Icould talk about that for
several hours, but I'll stopthere.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
And it's similar for me too . My grandmother loved
crystals and , uh, she was thefemale mother in my life, and
she actually had crystals thatwould sit in a place where we
couldn't touch them becausethey were over on the other
side of a winding steelstaircase, so nobody could
(04:04):
actually reach them. But shealways said, something happens
to me, you can have thesecrystals. Well, I guess it's
sort of similar, isn't it?
Because they're not telling thestory, but the presence is
there.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah. I love that.
Yeah. Well, I'm, I'm nearly thesame, but I do let, I , I'm not
like precious about, so forexample, about several years
ago, I got this piece here,this is 24 Kara Tanzanite. If I
shone a torch through it, itwould blow your mind. The
(04:39):
colors are off, off the scale.
Deep blues, violets, purples ,uh, it's extraordinary. You
might think that's tooexpensive for , for you to
allow other people to touch.
What if they drop it? But Idon't look at it like that
because it's not really mine.
(05:00):
It's Mother Earth's. Hmm . It'scoming to my possession for me
to work with it and to assistin a works, but yes, okay. My
inner child would say, no, youspent 7,000 pounds on that, and
that's yours, mate. Butactually, it's not mine. It's
borrowed. Mm-Hmm .
(05:21):
will go back into the earth andit will carry on growing. So
that's extraordinary, isn't it?
people are like, don't touch mycrystal. And you're like, oh,
sorry, I , I I forgot
But yeah , it's interestingwith crystals, I mean, I do
(05:43):
have certain crystals, whichjust by definition you can't
touch them because they're,they're not, they're not
visible or accessible. But I'lltalk about that later.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
like a couple of weeks ago, Ihad my two little nieces stay
over and they stayed in mybedroom, and I called it the
crystal room because I have alot of crystals
the funniest thing was theytook the crystals out into the
lounge room that they, thatthey loved, and they also took
(06:17):
those home
collection of crystals,
wanna come back to Arnie Mel'shouse very soon.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That happens with my she guy all the time, by the
way. But that's, that's allright . If they wander off with
a piece of that, as long asit's grade two, I'm all right .
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Speaker 2 (06:38):
If it's grade one, I'm after the , I'm coming
after their pocket money.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Get it. They mostly get it for free, but yeah.
Yeah, that's , that's anothersubject. The kids normally just
run off with whatever theywant, and you've just gotta go.
Okay,
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Sally, who is a deeptransmedium and a priestess.
Can you share some of the workyou've been creating together
of late and perhaps what it islike to work so closely with
your mom ?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Absolutely. It's a lot. So I will, you just said
some, so I'm, I'm going tostick with some, because
there's, there's hundreds ofreleases. Like, it's, it's a
big, it's a big work. So itstarted really, there's lots of
(07:37):
avenues and different pathwaysof how that work has been
created. So I'll go with, I'llstart with the music and I'll
give you a little bit ofbackstory , um, a bit of
context rather than juststarting in a way further down
the track. So if I go back abit before serious school kind
(08:02):
of started in that sense, mymother said, you need to pick
an instrument to study is ,it's gonna help you develop
your brain and sacredmathematics. And all of that is
involved with, when you studyan instrument, you're, you're
involving a different part ofyour brain. So I picked the
(08:24):
cello, well, first I picked theviolin, but I was like, that's
not for me. I then picked thecello and then I began to play
that. And you call it whiningbecause , you know, you try and
play Twinkle twinkle littlestar at six years old, and it
just sounds absolutelyterrible. But anyway, I
persevered. I had to, mom waslike, you have to keep going.
(08:47):
So I was getting privatetuition from a local lady in
the next village called HelenLund . And eventually I reached
a pretty decent level. I thenpersevered. I was in the local
chamber orchestra, and Ieventually reached lead rank,
and I had 10 cellos behind methat I was leading. At the age
(09:11):
of 15, I was playing tohundreds of people on stage on
the cello. But something openedin me where I realized,
although I love this kind ofmusic, but there is a beauty in
it, it wasn't feeding my soul.
It wasn't really totally doingit for me. It wasn't a complete
(09:35):
recipe. So I began to expandand I said, now I want to learn
double bass . So I began tostudy jazz classics, walking
bass , and I began to take mystudies further into that
world. And then I thought,after a long time, this is
(09:56):
after like starting a jazz bandand everything, I was like,
this is lovely, but it's stillnot doing it for me. So I then
started to learn kind of almostat the same time, whilst I was
still into the jazz, I bought aFretless bass because all these
instruments, they have nofrets, they're fretless. So I
(10:17):
bought a , a beautiful Fretlessbass and started to study
fusion jazz , um, with funk,really, it was funk, sort of
funk, jazz, fusion,experimental and improv. And I
had two little buddies, Jasonand Sharma . Sharma was the,
(10:40):
the piano player. Jason was thedrummer. And we would start to
write our own stuff. And that'swhen a new band formed called,
or jazz mix , original jazz mixafter that , um, acronym. And
then I thought, well, this isreally lovely, but I'm just
still not there. So then Ibegan to, we call it sampling
(11:03):
or chopping up. So I began torecord my own strings on the
cello and resample them. And Ibegan to now branch into
production, making hip hopbeats and sampling things and,
and experimenting. I was justall about experimenting and ,
(11:25):
and expanding into what I nowcall the , the sound, the
sound, the sound that opens meup, makes me feel that I am
actually connected big time. Sothat opened up that road and I
was terrible at it at first,producing and making things,
(11:47):
the , it all sounded terrible.
And then I pushed further. Andthat's what led me into having
a part in our brother's bandcalled House of Commonness .
It's a play on words, meaningit's music for the common
people. It's music to upliftthe spirit and uplift the soul.
(12:07):
So conscious rap, hip hop ,basically, we had that band for
10 years running, then Covidcame along and it killed it
because we couldn't play. Sothat band, unfortunately, very
sadly, it , it did die withthat. Um, it reformed under a
different name, but my brotherand I, my brother was the lead
(12:30):
mc . He's the most incrediblewriter of lyrics. I mean, the
kind of lyrics when you hearthem, you're just not the same
after you hear them, they are,they are next level at they're
beautiful there , vivid. Soyeah, my brother and I work
together in , in that world.
But if I backtrack a bit in ohnine, after going to Argentina
(12:54):
with my mother for the firstever opening of a branch of
Goddess Temple out there, I wasinvited out by Kathy Jones, who
co-founded the Goddess Templehere in Glastonbury, alongside
my mother. I was invited withmy mom to go out and perform
(13:16):
some sacred music that I wascomposing for the Goddess. I
will talk about that in aminute. But I want to start
with the story because in ohnine I had a , a really serious
accident, which completelybasically ended my career as a
(13:37):
cellist. So I was, I was very,very sort of pretty high level.
Everybody was after my cellofor their songs, for their
albums, for their music. Andthen in oh nine, I was washing
up in the sink on Boxing Day, Ipicked up a glass bowl turned
round to put it on the side,and it smashed in my hand and
it nearly locked my finger off.
(13:59):
And this was the first fingerof my left hand. And if you
look on the screen there,although everyone's listening,
audio only, I'm just showingthe rose mother here. There is
a massive scar on my leftfinger of my left hand. Mm-Hmm
,
each finger of your hands, eachfinger has its own chakra
(14:23):
system. So there's sevenchakras on each finger , and
there's seven chakras in thehand . So I was chopped right
on the root chakra of the leftfinger on my left hand, which
is also called your Jupiterfinger, which is very
interesting because later I'mgonna talk about s shungite .
And this crystal shangai comesfrom ter . So I, I , I looked
(14:48):
down and my finger was hangingoff my hand and I could see
about an inch of my skeleton.
And I can't tell you how Ifreaked the F out. I mean, I
seriously freaked out. And notonly that was freaking out
seeing, well, it was like ahorror show because there was ,
there was blood all up thewalls, there was blood
(15:10):
everywhere. And I, I just, Iwas just like, right, well get
ahold of yourself buddy. Grab atea towel. Well, actually, my
sister-in-law grabbed the teattowel 'cause she was also in
the kitchen, wrapped up myfinger, went down to hospital
and they were like, sorrybuddy. There's no hand
specialist here. You're gonnahave to go to the, the next
(15:33):
city an hour away. So we drovethere
like, really sorry. But the ,uh, the hand specialist of the
southwest of England, which islike, there's only two hand
specialists in England, they'reon holiday. And I was like,
right, so you can't help me.
Then basically, no, we can'thelp you have some butterfly
(15:54):
stitches. I was like, great.
They then sent me home and Iwas in bed. Basically. I lacked
knowledge. I think the thingabout this show right now is I
hope that what I'm saying toyour listeners, that they get
to learn some things I'vefigured out. So here's one
takeaway that I hope a veryserious takeaway, which is
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knowledge is everything. Ilacked the knowledge that if
I'd have told them one speciallittle phrase, this finger is
my livelihood. This finger letsme play cello. That's my life,
that's my career. You have tocall them by law, you have to
get them here now to work on meright now, I could have done
(16:41):
that, but I lacked thatknowledge. I didn't know that.
So hey, that wasn't the planfor me though, was it? My
guides were like, no, Jerome,we have a different road for
you, my friend. So they sent mehome and I was in bed, but five
days and five nights. And bythe end of it, every day I was
(17:03):
in absolute agony. And I waslooking at my finger and I saw
the black creep up . By theend, the black was all the way
to the tip of my finger. And Ithought, holy Jesus, they're
just gonna take my finger.
Anyway, they didn't take it. Idid go to hospital and I was in
(17:27):
the operating theater for sevenhours, 45 minutes all
anesthetic. When I came to, Iwas a lucky boy. They did fix
my finger, but I lost a wholeinch of my tendon 'cause the
tendon retreated right into myhand. So they had to open up my
(17:48):
hand and pull the tendon up tojoin it together. When I woke
up, I was, I'd never in my lifefelt the kind of pain that I
was feeling. It was just,there's no words for it. It
was, it was out of this worldagony. You know? I said, give
me morphine, just , just giveme a lot. Just keep giving it
(18:10):
to me. It didn't really help tobe honest with you. 'cause what
was happening was theelectricity was flashing down
to the end of all of thenerves, tendons, pully ,
tendons, arteries and trying tospark and make contact with the
freshly joined together on theother side. And it can only be
(18:35):
described as sparks of fire orif lightning. But on a macro
level, like if I was to blow upand go inside my own body, if,
if my body was like a mountainand I went inside it , it would
just be like thesethunderbolts, you know? So I
(18:58):
was in a , a real deepsituation. Suddenly I was like
not playing cello, not livingmy best life. My dad would
always call me Beamer, boy,everyone would, you know, I was
just different. 10 brothers andsisters. And in all the picks,
I'm kind of the one smilingmostly. But then coming from
(19:21):
that to right , my life isover. I mean, my life is just
over. I'm not playing cello,I'm not playing bass, but I've
always been known as somebodyto take the advantage from a
bad situation. So what I did, Ibought a mic 'cause I was
producing, 'cause the melody,even though I was in pain, I
(19:45):
never stopped having melodypouring through. And so I
started singing. So what I'mtrying to say here is, no
matter the rock and the hardplace you feel you're trapped
in, there's always a way out ofit. And I can tell you
straight, I made sure that Ifound a way out of that hell.
(20:07):
'cause I was in it. I call itthe pits, or I call it rock
bottom. Um, but what was itreally? Just to finish off that
little backstory, which leadsto your original question of
how I started working with mymother. What came first, the
music came first and my guidesaid, it's all lovely what
(20:32):
you're doing. It said , but youknow, you have no idea what's
coming for you in the future,mate, alright ? Meaning in the
world, meaning the battle thatwe are in right now, a battle
of mind, a battle of frequency.
So they wanted to throw me,they just grabbed me and threw
me down into the pits where thebow rock was waiting for me.
(20:56):
But I did, I did defeat the bowrock . The bow rock was me or
my own inner darkness, or thedark matter or the black gold.
So I , I have discovered a wayof speaking about these places.
'cause my main interest is howquickly can we come out of
(21:16):
these deep places and into thelight because there's no time
to lose to enjoy our best life.
So that leads to Kathy Jonesasking me, she realized I could
make music for meditation. Shesaid, Jerome, would you make
the opening ceremony soundtrackto the, for the 2012 Sacred
(21:42):
Womb Goddess Conference? And ifyour listeners don't know, the
Glastonbury Goddess Conferenceis the biggest conference in
the world where teachers of thegoddess come from all over the
world. From any ki every kindof culture you can imagine to
teach deep, mystical, magical,powerful ways about the goddess
(22:09):
and about how a divine womancan empower herself. 'cause
that's what's happening in thislife. Goddess is coming to say,
this is all mine and I'm takingcontrol now. It's now time for
the goddess to rise. So I'lltalk about that later 'cause
(22:30):
I've got a very excitingannouncement for you and for
your listeners about that. Butthat's where it started. Kathy
Jones and my mom , co-foundedthe Glastonbury Goddess Temple
here, which has been running 25years. And so I started making,
it came full cycle fromclassical music to jazz, to hip
(22:53):
hop , dubstep, drum and bass,funk and soul and all the rest
of it, all the way in to sacredmusic for goddess. And so it's,
it's interesting 'cause it'snot, it's not that normal. I
mean, I don't know many menaround here that say, I make
music for the Goddess
There are, but I don't knowmany. You know? So that's where
(23:18):
it started. And , and my motherand I did work together on that
first piece. So sorry about thelong answer, but I had to give
you a bit of backstory as tohow, 'cause you don't just
start making music for goddesswithout any depth and now
without any, any pain. It just,it , it isn't a thing to give
(23:41):
you context. A mother givesbirth and it's blood and gore,
it's, it's pain, it's blood,sweat and tears. It's agony.
It's like, holy god, you know,most men will just run from
that birthing chamber. I can'thandle this. I'm outta here, in
(24:02):
my view, good music, it doescome from somebody who knows
deep struggle and has foundtheir way out of it and has
cleared out their heart center.
Why? So that the Heart Centeris a very real open channel
(24:25):
vessel for the high cosmicsound of any being. Godes Isis
,
mother, Mary Sec , met hat ,the list goes on. Shiva Esha
(24:45):
Saraswati , the deities of theShungite stone. I mean, the
list is, is nearly endless.
Archangel Rael , I've got someArchangel Rael frequencies
coming for you very soon. Butthat's the thing is you can't
do that if you don't know howto get access to the dark
(25:07):
matter within you and realizethat if you don't move that
stuff, 'cause it's not all bad.
So people have a mindset andthey say, that's terrible. Must
get rid of it. So that's what Ibasically teach and that's, it
did come from the pain ofnearly losing my finger. It
taught me.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Well, thank you firstly for sharing such a
deep, deep story. You know, Ithink it takes a lot to be able
to share your voice like thatand to be able to share your
heart like that. I know not allpeople can. So I really
appreciate , um, everythingthat you have shared and , um,
I know for sure, like, evenwhen I was listening to it, I
(25:51):
was referred back to my ownDark Night of the Soul, which
is what I call it. And Ithought, you know what? You
went so deep then I don't knowif I, if I could express what I
went through in such a deepway. So thank you very much for
sharing that.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Well, I'd love to hear it. Would you, would you
care to tell me a little bit?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well , it's a long, it is a
story. I can tell you a littlebit. So I would say that my ,
uh, my first dark night of thesoul was at age 11 , um, when
my sister was in a tragicaccident. And that was right ,
I think it was the weekendbefore I was supposed to start
(26:37):
high school. And unfortunatelyshe passed. She had passed away
, uh, already a couple of daysbefore that. So that was, I
think, my initiation and a biginitiation to go through at 11
years old. I think the biggestpart about it was the
(27:00):
aftermath. So I think , uh,when you're a child, you don't
have the capacity to expressgrief as well. I think
sometimes what our guides do isthey kind of shut us down
emotionally so that we don'thave to feel the pain of that
(27:23):
later. I did get to feel thepain, you know, the full
fledging pain of that. But ,uh, having to move through that
loss and having to, going backthat far ago, they just did not
have the tools to be able tohelp children move through
grief. So I would probably saylike, just to get really deep
(27:44):
here, it probably wasn't thebest idea to, for example, have
a young child in a room withhis sister who had just passed
away , uh, in a coffin, in asmall coffin, which was open
and having to sit there forhours at a time just sitting
there having to process that.
(28:05):
So sorry.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, I'm , I'm sorry that you, you know,
that's really powerful. Verydeep.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
So, I mean, there's so much to else, to the story,
but we are here to hear aboutyour story today. But I thank
you for helping me. And
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I would just like to say to you my mother who
channels Chung Fu and in thewords of my father, he believes
my mother is top three in theworld for deep trance
mediumship that he always saysto me, Chung Fu always says,
you know, loss is the biggestheart opener. Yes, indeed. It's
(28:43):
beyond any words in the Englishdictionary of tragedy. It's
beyond any words you candescribe. But what he always
says is that every challenge ashard and as horrible as they
are, that pain, and this isalways some of the hardest
(29:05):
teaching to receive fromascended beings, is that our
souls choose the myriad ofpathways for very certain, you
know, reasons. Now, I'm notsaying that our choose our
souls choose to experience likesometimes something like that
(29:27):
by choice. But that thingshappen that are very, very
difficult. So that our soul cangrow, can grow to the next
position of expansion. And nowthen draw in a vast light into
(29:49):
the biggest chakra of ourbeings, which is the heart
chakra three above three below.
And he always says the heartchakra is the richest place in
the universe. And so when weexperience loss, the hardship
of it is it , it pushes usdeeper. The higher self is
(30:12):
found in the depths. And so myheart goes out to you sister,
and I'm so sorry for that lossthat you've experienced your
heart. I know, I mean, I I'vefelt you online. I've thought,
goodness me , that sister has adeep heart. What a special
(30:33):
lady. So you have found a waydeep in, and you are bringing
in even more light. But I liketo say that phrase in Lord of
the Rings, our pippin , butit's just the beginning. And so
we're in this dimensionality,who knows, your sister might be
(30:56):
right here with you right nowworking with you because
sometimes beings have a, adifferent missions and
different ways of accessingthis realm. But nonetheless, it
is deeply moving and my heartgoes out to you. And I think
(31:20):
it's not by chance that we'rehaving this chat together
because this is the work that Ido. People come to me who just
the other day, I , I workedwith a client, she just lost
her mum six months ago, andthen she just lost her sister
at 42 years old. So her sisterwas too young to go and she was
(31:44):
in such grief and I covered herhead to toe in the Shungite .
And we went in and we, youknow, I then began to bring her
my 15 years of what I havediscovered with Shanghai . So I
feel that, I know it's reallyhard, but our souls, and this
(32:08):
will be hard for people to hearbecause people will disagree
definitely. Because theteachings that come from the
ascended realms, they're noteasy. They're very hard. And
Chung Fu stands for innertruth. But what they bring is,
I love you, but your soul chosethat. And you're like, no , I
(32:31):
didn't Like, you can go back towherever you came from mate.
'cause I didn't choose that.
But it's what comes next. Andthere's a famous saying, I
can't remember who who said it,it's in a book I read. The
Obstacle is the Way. And if youhave the courage to go the way
of that obstacle and you know,with your power chatter and
(32:54):
break it and move on, andyou're like, oh, okay, now
look, I'm not, I'm not thereany, I'm not in that place
anymore. I've elevated or I'vegone deeper or I've gone higher
or I've shifted. So I'm sosorry you went through that.
(33:14):
But look at you now a greatlady, and thank you for telling
me a bit about your story.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Well, thank you for opening that up for me. I
wasn't expecting that today atall.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And now your tears are flowing
Speaker 1 (33:30):
was music that led you on thepath to open you up. And for me
it was books. I know after thatI was sent away and I was very
alone. And so I went to thelibrary and after a little
(33:52):
while I found a section I wasonly, so I was only 11 and 12,
and I found a section, it wascalled the New Age section. And
this was early nineties, by theway,
many books in there, but Istarted collecting them and I
took them home by secret and Istarted reading them and uh,
(34:14):
and I started doing theexercises in them. And I think
that was where it all startedto open up. So, I mean, that's
a short version of the story,the longer version of the
story. I , I would love to
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Hear the long version one day. And I think
your re your listeners wouldtoo, you know, I think they'd
all agree with me.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, love
Speaker 2 (34:36):
To hear , love to hear the long version one day.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
So if you can, I mean, you've spoken a little
bit about Ascended Master ChungFu Um, are you able to tell us
a bit more about how you Iwould love to connected with
him.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I'm gonna , I'm gonna play you some music in
the background. Dunno if youcan hear that. Yep . So this is
a Tara charm that I composedaround my mum channeling Chung
(35:22):
Fu . It's called in the Templeof White Tara , volume one,
Tara chs with Ascent MasterChung Fu and myself, Jerome are
on , because for me, I alwayssay in , in the beginning was
(35:43):
the word. I didn't , I didn'tmake that up. That's what they
say. And the word was God. ButI have the idea that of course,
before words , it was sound. Sofor me, when words are put over
(36:05):
sound in a lovely way for aspecial intention to help you
open, to help you tune in, thisis very special for me. Like
this way of working, of puttingmusic over sound. And that is
(36:29):
how it all started really. Ibegan to work with Chung Fu,
who's been speaking through mymom for nearly half a century.
So I'll give you a little quicksummary. I won't do you long
story like the other one. Butyou know, the thing is, guys,
(36:53):
if you're all listening to menow, I think you'll agree that
you too have struggled in allkinds of ways. So the story
with Ascended master Chung Fu ,by the way, I do have to say
that he did not give himselfthat title of Ascended Master.
We did . He's very humble. Hecalls himself an ascended
(37:15):
being, but that is an ascendedmaster. He's a ninth
dimensional ninth ray .
Ascended being. So how itstarted back in the day is my
mom was married to a man andshe was deeply in love, but he
(37:35):
was very depressed. And heunfortunately took his own
life. Um , this was before mymom was channeling Chung Fu.
And what happened in the end isthat tragedy actually opened up
his heart. I just fade thetrack out there. And what
(37:58):
happened is she then openedfrom that tragedy into such a
deep place of trauma and shewas very disturbed, right? He,
he basically blew himself up ona motorbike. I mean, it , this
(38:19):
was no, like, I'll just go takemy own life stuff. This was
really very serious. My mom waslike only 20 at the time,
right? Just a young, a younglady. And then at the time,
she, she began to train. So itwas kind of just, when that
(38:40):
serious stuff happened, itreally is very serious. At the
time, she was just beginning totrain as a psychic with Ivy
Northridge , who back then wasvery kind of well known . She
ran a school in London, theSchool of Psychic Studies. I
(39:02):
don't know its exact name, butthis was back in the day, Ivy
Northridge , who channeled herown Ascender being , uh, master
Chan , I think . Don't quote meon that, but I think that was
the , her guide's name. And shewas helping my mom to bring her
gifts forward as a channel,basically. And back then they
(39:24):
used to shove you in thecloset. It was quite funny.
They shove you in a dark closetand they say, you know, just
let the , you know, just letyour , your guide. You know.
What happened really though, isone day my, my mom and my dad,
who were just friends at thetime , um, my dad caught my mom
(39:44):
as she collapsed on the ground.
She was very unhappy. One day,basically she collapsed on the
ground and was like frothing atthe mouth. And my dad thought,
mom's have my mom's having anepileptic fit or something. But
it wasn't that. It was, thatwas when , um, Chung Fu came in
for the first time. Now ChungFu has three names. We call him
(40:07):
the old Tibetan Old Chinese.
And back then they called himold Chinese. He came in and he
said, beloved, don't worry.
Like, in other words, thisbeing came in and started
speaking through Sally's mouthwhile she was frothing. 'cause
it was the first time that thebeing was coming through to
(40:28):
speak to my dad and say, haveno fear. This was planned way
before this life that I wasgonna come through in this life
and bring my teachings. Sothat's where it started. Many
years later, after Sally wasgiving personal sessions to
(40:48):
just private family members,really bringing the teachings
through the ascended teachings.
I then, after years ofbasically taking the out of all
this woowoo, like, who arethese weird people coming from
all over the world to see you?
Like, this is just a bit weird.
I was just a lad. I thentransitioned to like, well ,
(41:10):
I'm kind of curious. And then Isaid, mom , can I have a
session with this spirit guide?
So I then had my first sessionat 17, and that's when Chung Fu
and of course Chung Fus veryinteresting in how he asks you
questions about basicallywhat's not flowing right for
(41:31):
you, what's not going your way,what's not helping you become
the master of your life. And sonaturally you start saying,
what all the things that aregoing wrong, you know, and all
the things that you want to goright? And he starts to guide
you. And so that led into mefinding out that I had
(41:52):
incredible spirit guides , uh,a whole entire entourage of
different beings. And that'swhat really opened me up for
the first time of working withmy mum . And Chung Fu and Chung
Fu did tell me some issues andthings that happened in points
(42:12):
and times in my life, which I'dnever told anyone about. And
that just blew my mind. And nowthe whole Aash or AIC records
kind of area of , of study now,I, I completely believe in that
because of the way he told methings. Secrets, right? Not
(42:34):
secrets that I'm ashamed of,but just things that hurt me
that I didn't really know howto express or bring forward.
And so I was well and truly youcould say blown open about like
what is possible in this, inthis world. Like , and the
whole, like when a being hasfull of Caic record access,
(42:58):
they actually have full of Caicrecord access. And they know
about every life you've everlived, every good and bad thing
you've ever done, and everyexistence you've had across the
cosmos multiverse. So that'sextraordinary. But that's where
(43:18):
it started. And to cap off thatlittle question, since then,
I've had hundreds of sessionswith Chung Fu . So my mother is
extraordinary. And most peopledon't understand the kind of
connection that I have with mymother because it's not really
just mother and son. It's waymore than that. It's just,
(43:39):
we're buddies, we just hangout. And I'm lucky. All I can
say is I'm dead lucky becausethe kind of stuff my mom's
helped me through, I mean, I, Icouldn't even, I'd need about a
thousand hours or more to tellyou, and I don't mind. I'm an
open book. I've got nothing tohide. Im transparent. I tell
(44:03):
you straight. But Sally is anextraordinary lady, as I say,
she's top three in the world asfar as I'm concerned. I agree
with my dad. Hands down. Andthen it leads to finish, finish
off that question, thatconnection does lead in to me
working with God, ISIS, or Isay Isis because her name has
(44:26):
actually been taken by thathorrible faction, that war
mongering , militant, whoeverthe crap they are. So we don't
call her isis. Why Itransition? Because most people
only know her as that ancientEgyptian mother, ISIS. So I say
Isa , ISA as as she likes to becalled, or , or Isis . But that
(44:50):
it does lead into that. And itdoes lead into me going further
and deeper in to devoting mytemple musician musicianship,
if you will, and giving thatdevotion to her, but through
me, because goddess is in you.
So it's this , it's not aboutgiving your power to an outer
(45:15):
source. It's about channelingthe power for you first. 'cause
that's what we need. We needthat light within. We're here
to evolve, but then youredirect it out. So it's kind
of like up in, down, penetratethe darkness within, and then
out.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
And that concludes part one of the podcast with
Jerome. Part two will bereleased next week. And Jerome
talks about trans mediumship,universal divine laws. Jerome
opening up his channel forSacred Sound, opening up the
chakras and developing as achannel, manifesting a
(45:55):
relationship with s shungiteand divine love and getting
clear on what you wannamanifest, putting it on the
crystal grids and takinggrounded action. We also talk
about the brotherhood and thesisterhood wound healing for
men and Jerome's spiritual workwith priest es Sally, who is
(46:17):
Jerome's mom . Thank you forlistening.
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