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loving consciously with each other. It brings other people into our field and then they kind of
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heal from that love too. It's because it's all empathy, it's all compassion. When I look at her,
I see myself. So we're such a mirror reflection and once you become like spiritually conscious of it,
I see the oneness between us. But we feel each other's pain, we feel each other's emotions.
It's such a spiritual relationship with her. It's very beautiful. It's so childlike. We love
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each other so much and that we see each other for who we like. Every single piece of her I know
and every single she's and it's just unconditional love in that way. We've been able to welcome a
lot of people into our healing space and give them unconditional love as well. We have this like
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innate gift to like just love other people and just see them for their soul. Everyone just has
a lot of trauma and that's kind of what we can sense and we can kind of sense what they they
really just need nurturing. So whenever someone like comes and lays on our Reiki table, I see
their inner child and I see them as their younger self by really loving them as who they are now,
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who they were, who they will be. There's a deep awakening happening within us because that's
where everything you know that's where everything is. We have this internal consciousness, this
internal truth, this universe inside of us that connects to our source. Reiki is just that energy
given to other people in a way where it's programmed intentionally spread to help and heal.
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Healing is a dimension of consciousness. Reiki, to Jesse and I, it's free energy. They want to change
things but they've been stuck. So we work with them, we get them unstuck and then we witness them
grow. Fear is the frequency that has really held us back from soul evolution. Us as humans,
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we're all very connected. There's a collective consciousness where our energies affect each
other and when we have higher frequency emotions, higher frequency experiences,
those trickle out into the rest of the world. The more that we focus on opening our hearts,
because it's ultimately our heart chakras that connect us and if we remain open from this center,
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we can really start to attract beautiful connections that bring you things that you need.
Welcome home to the Love Inconsciously podcast. My name is Ameris and my name is Eric and if you
are like us, nobody taught you how to love. We are best friends and life partners here to
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vulnerably and authentically share our journey while exploring the sacred realms of love,
consciousness, relationship, spirituality and all that they encompass. The intention of this show
is to help you consciously relate to yourself, others and everything else in this universe.
Together we can embody a more intentional and fulfilling way of giving and receiving love.
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Love Inconsciously. Through eight years together we have had the opportunity to overcome deep
patterning and programming as well as trauma related to mental health, addiction, pregnancy loss,
infidelity and immense grief. After six years of experiencing these challenges with no knowledge
on how to heal or love each other, we separated. After us both spiritually awakening and recommitting,
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we formed our conscious partnership and have spent the last two years cultivating a divine union
founded on unconditional love, devotion and commitment to personal growth. Thank you for joining
us and doing the work alongside us as we explore this beautiful world of love and consciousness
to co-create a new world of love. As you courageously walk this path, remember to have grace with
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yourself and know that you have both the capacity to love consciously and the power to always choose love.
Namaste and welcome back to the loving consciously podcast. We have such an exciting episode today.
If you have been following us on this show, we launched a new series last quarter called
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Loving with Conversations. So this is our second episode in that series for Q4 and Loving Conversations
is a series with the intention of bringing on other people that are in some form of conscious
relationship. Obviously reminding you all that on this show we are not just talking about romantic
relationships. This can be family, this can be friends, it can be parent-child. In today's case,
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it can be siblings and giving them a platform to talk about how they're navigating it,
how they're figuring it out because we are all figuring this out together and you know we talk
about our relationship a lot and so it's nice to have other perspectives. So without further ado,
I am so excited to share that this time we have twins. We have twin sisters, Jules and Jesse are
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here to join us and talk about their journey together and as individuals. So ladies, sisters,
welcome to the show. Thank you, thank you so much. I'm Jesse, I'm Jules, Jesse in the Black,
Jules in the White. So I'd love to start with introing y'all and then we'll ask you our lovely
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intro question. So y'all are the Reiki twins, epic name and yeah if you would just share with our
listeners a little bit like who you are and obviously your twin sisters but just a little
background of you know what has gotten you to the place that you're in now. We both were born,
I mean we were born together, we've been through kind of like the same exact childhood trauma so
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we got to experience that together. We had a lot of trauma growing up, it wasn't easy and we didn't
really have like a lot of positive role models so we kind of used each other as role models but in
that we became very well we are just very highly sensitive people. We have a lot of empathy because
we witnessed each other kind of like suffer in a way and I think that that built our compassion. So
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that's kind of like the foundation of the healers that we have become. We took separate paths, we
went to different colleges and this was all pre like awakening per se where we kind of learned
more truths about this reality and other dimensional aspects of what we can't really
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see and we always kind of had like telepathy so that was like we both were like okay this makes
sense to us but I ended up going into healthcare and working as a nurse and just kind of witnessed
the lack of curing issues versus like treating them and having I would say clients who kind of were
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dependent on the pharmaceutical and western medicine mindset which there's other healing
mindsets, there's other practices all across the world so I think I kind of wanted to expand my
knowledge with that just because I wasn't seeing people like heal and a lot of it I knew the root
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cause was like trauma and that's not something that was addressed. So trauma is something we're
very and healing trauma is something we're very passionate about so we started or Julie can tell
a little bit about her story but we eventually came together after her she went to what she went to
George Metson yeah yeah a master's. Like after high school it was a very like tough decision to
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decide to go to different colleges because so we grew up in a family where it was just me my
sister my mom our father passed and we were four and that was our earliest memory in this
lifetime there was a couple memories before that but the most significant shared memory was his
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death and we were both very young and we both witnessed it happening and that was such a deep
foundation for our connection because we knew from that we were very like I would say conscious
children but Jesse I knew she was very smart and we both knew our lives were going to be challenging
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after we witnessed that and that kind of passed to what I call like what we both what we lived in
kind of like a matriarchal situation with just our mother and it was very interesting to witness
like the feminine energy from that space and without the masculine any sort of masculine balance
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like external and Jesse and our very imaginative creative children a lot of our connection really
stems back to where we were as kids because we were both very warrior-esque we could both see
we could both see through the veil we both had psychic abilities then but then once you know we
went through the public school programming and we went through a lot of you know the rote memorization
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the old the you need you can do this with your life this this is the box building and the cube
and all that stuff so we ended up getting to a point in high school where I was like personally
I said I can't go to sin colleges you because I wanted Jesse to she was very social she has a
very like social a huge social like capacity for people I mean I'm something I admire now but then
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it was very much like I need to find myself in my space in my alone space and also she got better
grades than me in school and I wasn't going to apply to any colleges that I was like I didn't
want to get rejected so I applied to the ones that I knew I was going to get into so I went to
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a really small school and she went to a really big school and then we kind of we stopped communication
that was really a lot of me I had to do a lot of soul searching in that time and during my time
in college I got I would say pretty hooked on alcohol and I got into an abusive relationship
that kind of put me in a state of deep isolation for a little bit and then I actually like gotten to
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trouble with that situation and Jesse was you know in her college making all friends while I was
over there I mean just suffering like really really really and I hated college I was like this is all
it's a different I hated it and Jesse's parents yes and so what happened was I went through a lot
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end up in northern Virginia once I graduated college and getting through college was very hard
for me because the whole time I was like I don't like any of this I literally felt like just trapped
in the system I just felt trapped in the knowledge I was learning I was like I don't know what I'm
gonna do with all this because I studied psychology um that I ended up in northern Virginia and then I
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ended up working for someone who was very narcissistic and that was when I decided I needed to work for
myself by no way to figure out how to not do the old matrix nine to five situation that was like
soul sucking in itself so I went to graduate school got a master's degree in sociology and that was
something I was extremely passionate about for a while and that was social science research to
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improve the lives of others and it focused on the structure as opposed to individuals because I think
we kind of obviously we live in a system that's repressive in itself it isn't just the individual's
fault so went through all that did my master's degree completed that I had a job I was studying
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children in schools and I really loved that job I felt very connected to that job um but then
COVID hit and I wasn't allowed to back into schools anymore so as soon as COVID started though I mean
that's when stuff started ramping up and I was starting to get like the downloads and the psychic
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drops about how the world was not going to go back to normal as soon as they even announced
like potential pandemic for this virus and it was before they announced it I remember exactly
what happened I said I called her because we were both we're both in relationships we were
both in northern Virginia and we really didn't see each other much what actually brought us
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together was Jesse kept getting sick from her job and I was very resistant to kind of building
a relationship with her in my adulthood because growing up we were very resource deprived so
our mother would it was very programming though she would program in our heads that we needed to
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find a way to accumulate a lot of wealth really quickly and that would be through marrying somebody
with wealth or something you know that was kind of like her thought process so it was very challenging
I felt like I couldn't really connect to Jesse while I was trying to figure out how to do that I
mean like how do you do that and this world that's so like anti you know empathy nurturing all those
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things it's just it was a very interesting space but we ended up starting to just like
call each other every day when like this they're like you know isolate yourself a little off put
yourself in your house and don't come out um yes yes and I just kept calling her and we just kept
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we started doing research research and rabbit holes rabbit holes the rabbit holes just started
like opening up it's crazy oh here it comes yeah yeah we were going down different ones but then
coming together talking about them and I was working I was in the hospital when COVID started
so I was working on postpartum and I had up been ill ill from working in that I threw up constantly
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and the masks like didn't help me they made me very nauseous so I mean I had to wear the same mask
like forever shift too because they said they didn't have enough and then it was just a lot of crazy
stuff and then I couldn't do night shift I ended up like throwing up at 3 a.m and they were like
well you have to do night shift so I got like a anxiety letter from a doctor and I got a month off
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but during that month I decided to move to like Black Mountain so right outside of Asheville
I like was really working on meditation though at this time and I had done like mind body therapy
and I was it was like really coming online like the trauma that was stored and where it was coming
from and what certain memories were coming back and Julie and I like I feel like it was both
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happening at the same time and we were not like in the same physical space but um she it was helpful
to have her or I moved to Black Mountain and I had made flashcards of like all the chakras all the
like essential oils and the crystals and I was like studying this for some reason and I was using
it for my own healing and then Julie said I should we should learn Reiki and she had bought a book and
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she was like well we need to meet a Reiki master so we can get a tune and I was like well I don't
want to put that out there but I mean like I don't physically want to go after that when I'm not sure
and I was going on vacation the next week and but I was coming here to the Outer Banks and
but I was living in Asheville so I'm living here now but I had been on yeah vacation and
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there was a woman there who was a Reiki master and she was like talking out of the pool and I was
like yeah I need to learn so she was like I'll teach you for free so she ended up teaching me
and I really understood everything I really didn't need a lot more education on it I did get like
trained level two Reiki master eventually but it just came so naturally and Julie I told
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what I learned I called her immediately I was like oh my gosh I need to tell you everything she was
like you need to just tell me what everything you learned yeah yeah it was so it was so divinely
timed I mean it yeah we were both just going down the holistic health route because I've been
really really connecting to like the ET knowledge too like as soon as we were both I remember we're
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both just like kind of talking and then we both started watching ancient aliens yeah that was a
big part of it we're almost we're all just bowed together and I said they say that we're all directly
you know we're all from you know extraterrestrial species our DNA and everything like that she's
like I know that's true and I was like I know it's true and so we just kept talking about it and that
really that really resonates with me and because I feel like I've always been kind of kept was kind
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of kept in this like there's this there's always something in my art like all the time and kind
of this bombarding is almost like bombarding of dark thoughts and negative thoughts to keep me from
uplifting myself and to keep me going back into lower vibrational patterns and it was pretty intense
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when we moved to like the northern Virginia area and I was with a partner there and he was witnessing
me awaken and I mean it was like incredible because then I saw what was in his aura and I was like oh
my gosh you are we are loaded here like we got a gas we got a clean but we got a clean and I didn't
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really know how to process that at first because it was I saw lower dimensional entities but I
also saw the higher ones too and they were starting connecting with me as well and that was happening
through like mushroom medicine and I was experimenting with that and it was so incredible because
I had a thing with alcohol and I have been taking antidepressants since I was like 16 I have been
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trying them and birth control pills since 18 and as soon as Jesse and I started exploring Reiki
especially within like two weeks of being attuned I completely quit drinking and haven't touched alcohol
in over four years and stopped all the pills everything and then we felt so connected to the
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practice once she attuned me which I felt really honored because I saw it unfold how Jesse was
literally like led to the teacher and then she I was like can you tune me and she attuned me
everything else just fell away like her relationship collapsed that timeline collapsed
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I the day her relationship she was in collapsed was I'm just gonna my ex-boyfriend's birthday so
I was like oh my gosh I can't it was like so crazy so so bizarre and I was already planning to move to
Texas with him but in many ways like that relationship had ended months before too because of all the
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awakening symptoms I was receiving I was being like consciously guided to
decalstorm my third eye I was doing all of that work and really kind of exploring my psychic
abilities opening up to my ability to pass life for grass and I can see things with my third eye
and you know different dimensions and I can remote view especially like a extensive part of me that
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all of these substances and all of these like things just absolutely like swarm and disconnect
me from that so Jesse and I have had this like it's been very unspoken I mean we really don't
even we just it's just like this force it just like guided us to off-grid like we really had to
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move away from the city and we're now we're on Manio the town of Manio which isn't on the Outer
Bank so the very the most east of this country you can get right on the island the rim yes
literally the ocean and everything and it's an island yeah I mean it's a popular tourist place
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but there's like nobody here at this time of year it's so peaceful so calm it's very we're very
isolated from a lot of things that we used to be very challenged with all of the hustle and bustle
the fast pace the rush and our nervous systems both of us we just knew based off of like our
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childhood upbringing a lot of our families the way that they think that she and I were kind of being
rushed through life almost felt like pushed to have a short life really I felt like that and so
we're kind of on this prop like this stage and path to life expansion life extension longevity
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training discipline teaching ourselves how to like really really care for each other yes
in a way that we're like so we're so connected in a family way because I believe like the power
there's a lot of power and family and there's a lot of things that separate the family in this
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spiritual war we're all experiencing in this physical war as well and when I look at her I see
myself so we're we're such a mirror reflection it's a very it's a very strange thing once you
become like spiritually conscious of it like I knew something was special about her like growing up
but now that I see the oneness between us I'm like how nice it's it's impossible for me to not
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care about her like happiness yes the needs yeah and like her highest potential too is very important
yes I love that so much I knew a lot of that actually I knew most of that but you know
first and foremost thank you both for being here thank you for sharing that it's you know we just
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finished this training we were just telling y'all about and something she was talking about is like
we are really at this time we're like lightworkers and star seeds you know all these different
words you want to use but like people of the light are starting to put ourselves out there
you know like in another lifetime saying what you just said on a recording on a podcast like you
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you would have been hung right and and so you know just thank you like for putting yourself out there
for sharing that vulnerably because it is like a lot to come on and say like here's what I went
through and what I'm experiencing I would love to ask y'all our quick intro question and then we
can get deeper into some of these things we ask everybody on the show and I'm like so excited
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to hear this answer right now because y'all are twins and this is like such a unique experience
what does loving consciously look like in your relationship or in your sister ship I should say
and or business because your business partners as well yes well the physical needs we have to make
sure those are met for each of us we share more so right now so we kind of have to work together
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to get things done so like one of us will cover the shop one will take care of the physical
like go get the food for both of us like that that's just how we've had to to do it we didn't have
like a father and we love our mother but she was a little we're very sensitive we need we need a lot
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of nurturing so we've had to play like roles for each other to almost in a way so we've been for the
past four years we've been re-parenting ourselves together but if you look into it more there's
certain I think powers that be that kind of affect the family unit and it's really up to us to
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take control of what we went through and not really have any expectations so but we're blessed
to have each other to to work through it together yeah but we feel each other's pain we feel each
other's yeah emotions we want we try to help each other as much as we can while also like
really working on taking care of ourselves as individuals and like getting space from each
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other too yeah I would say I always loved her like I really I would even admire her like when we were
younger and we had like before our awakening I always thought Jesse was such a beautiful person
such a light-hearted individual with so many gifts and she was very unique in our
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like when we actually had a very I don't know that I'm trying to answer the question but it's a
very extensive answer our relationship one I don't think this is the first lifetime that we've had
that we've worked together as light workers and I am even like at this point safe to say that we're
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once the same soul for sure and over an expansive time that we split bodies and then there's been
lifetimes of separation as well and those are very very hard and I would even say like the seven
years that we were separated were for me the darkest times the darkest time in my life and
because she brings so much light into my life like it was almost like going through the tunnel
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the dark tunnel and that was like the passage and then the light came back on when I realized
that she was missing from my life and we weren't communicating in a way where we were building a
family bond and we both have we're both black sheep in our family so we really only keep in
contact right now with our mom and our mother is we actually like our what I would even say like
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our project like yes we do so much work with her yes and we couldn't do it yes she's open to all the
experimentation and all that and it's really fun because it's almost like two of us at a time he
really can't stop she can't say no can't stop it because she's never like me yeah we both have to
yeah but it's a two against one always has been and when we were together like in high school I
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witnessed like a lot of things happened for me and Jesse that like it doesn't happen for other
people because of the two of us like the energy that we brought to the space it was very interesting
time when and it always has to deal with working with other people so I think the reason why well
not want to well not the only reason but one of the biggest reasons why our love like between us
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the love that we share is so important to like hold up and to work on is because the more we like
it's it's all empathy it's all compassion it's it's all nurturing it's so like maternal like
in many ways I mean there's there's protection there too like we do protect each other so much
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like with the masculine energy as well there's a lot of working with both energies but kind of
uncovering that sacred feminine energy between the two of us and the sisterhood aspect of
something that is so I would say lost but so natural to our being is seeing each other as
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sisters first and foremost and almost like knowing that that's an important type of relationship to
have and it's a beautiful thing you get to experience the love that we share like we started off
like so small but the more time we spend together the more people we help to so it kind of loving
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consciously with each other it brings other people into our field as healers and teachers
and guides and then they kind of heal from that love too I relate so we relate so much to what
you're saying because something I think we all really connected on as well as like I mean y'all
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have met us so I don't know you can say what you think but like we we think we're twin flames you
know that kind of like soul split into two things and just so much of what you were saying resonated
and you know something that we say all of the time and it really summarizes so much of what you're
saying it's like we are so blessed regardless of soul split into twin this soulmate that it
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doesn't matter like to have someone who is so much your other half and is also awake and is also
committed to the work like protection and you know we're doing really deep healing work like
watching out for each other and you know that what I'm loving is happening right now like this is
exactly the vision of this series is for listeners to see it does not just have to be romantic it's
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not all about relationships like that we got sold that lie that that's like the only patterns you
can be in a conscious partnership with your sibling with your parent so thank you for like
showing that I know you wanted to add something it's beautiful it's beautiful the relationship that
you have and the love the deep love that you have for each other it's palpable you know thank you
again for sharing your story into going into kind of the the shared trauma that was experienced in
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your younger years and how that evolved into you kind of both separating and taking and learning
your own lessons and then coming back together as you've woken up and you know choosing to return
to relationship that is something that we really advocate for in this show is the capacity to
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choose love right it's to choose returning to relationship and doing that work to be able
to build conscious partnerships with people whom we thought maybe we would never talk to again
it's just a beautiful kind of a joke but it's a beautiful reflection for both of you to be able
to look at one another and have that reflected back having that telepathic connection and the
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energy you already tapped into spirit and then to be able to see the reflection of yourself
in another human i almost see it as the way god kind of sees and experiences all of us recognizing
its own spirit of divinity within each one of us and it's almost like you've got this physical
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representation of what we are all being asked to do in this plane from birth from birth yeah of being
able to recognize the divinity in each one of us and connect with our god center and be able to
activate and heal other people's connection to the divinity by actually recognizing it within
themselves that's very that's very intuitive i also love that y'all wore black and white
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like opposites today like unintentionally or was it intentionally it was unintentionally right
unintentional i want to go there real quickly with this twin telepathy thing because you know it's
this is really fascinating to me and you know we we've started pushing the pushing the meter on
how far we're getting into talking about some stuff so far listeners you know it's not crazy like we
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hear all the time right like in mainstream like twin telepathy and they they literally know and
have proven twins can telepathically speak they can feel each other's emotions they can hear each
other's thoughts etc etc right we know that and most people hear that and they're like oh yeah
twins they're the same like a okay i can my brain can accept that if we can agree on that and accept
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that why can't we agree and accept that everyone has that capacity eric and i have built that skill
over time and so yeah i just would really love to hear from y'all's perspective what is that like
like how how is that experience for you because you were born this way and i'm just now coming
online to this at almost 30 you know 31 32 years old and so i'm curious what that journey's been like
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of kind of being pre-born for this and wired with it yeah it's um yeah um i'd say like it's been
happening since like we were so young we both like we had similar fears we had similar anxieties
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and some of them like didn't really have a root cause but we had the same exact thing so
it was a lot of comforting each other yeah a lot of it we just knew we knew that we were not being
treated with a lot of like love and nurturing and so we empathize with each other and then
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so if somebody came around and like we had like a meter for when people were going to like
yeah be more of like an energy vampire and kind of like take cracks at us and we both could just
feel that energy so we would get protective of each other without even like saying anything
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we it was pretty rare that we found people who were like nice dance so it was a lot of that for each
other like elementary school we people were nicer we yeah we had a few friends that we got really
close to we kind of had a mirror situation we always did um my mom actually dressed us the same
until we're like in fourth grade so yeah and we're not identical or fraternal twins yeah that's
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something that i'd like you wouldn't you wouldn't know yeah we didn't mention that i i forgot to mention
that in the beginning because you do look like most people would probably assume you were identical
yes everyone does yeah but we're not it's such a spiritual relationship with her it was always
spiritual even when we were younger because i think we're well obviously we're both star seeds so
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we're both highly empathic and we're both multi-dimensional so we had that dimension activated
as kids and we were very interested in like very straight like it wasn't strange things but very
spiritual things when we were young like we were very interested in Japanese manga anime
Japan it's so funny because Reiki is Japanese so once that came into our lives i was like oh wow
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like that's a whole like huge synchronicity because then it kind of translates to you know
potential past life connections why we were so drawn to it when we were kids why we were so drawn
to like the spiritual the spirituality of the location like of japan and everything like that
and then once we kind of came back together and we lived at our mom's for a little bit because
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that was part of our journey was to spend time with her when we were awakening and doing the Reiki
twins we were we're working with our relationship with her and then still taking Reiki sessions
and clients all we did was watch Japanese cartoons like while we were together it was really
all together it was really yeah i feel like on a deeper level the telepathy was like something
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that shina is it's so multi-dimensional we were put into really strange situations as kids like
since our father passed and we're so young my mother we were raised by babysitters those were very
interesting experiences because they were beautiful people but always very wounded very
always put around very people who have they were just stressed out usually about money family trauma
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and she and i just kind of held on to each other knowing that we weren't you know a part of their
family and we would always be we would be there for hours hours hours really we have a similar
imagination yep jesse and i we're very similar in the aspect of what you don't see i mean
we're similar what you do see but also in what you don't see like internally our creativity our
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like spatial awareness our ability to like design is very similar and it's it's very beautiful like
it doesn't have like it's a child like we're very we like to think that a lot of the energy that we
bring forth in this lifetime is reflective of art and our children yeah that's beautiful i mean you
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do like even just from the short time that we spent around you you do kind of move in unison
you kind of act as one unit which is very similar to how amris and i act we kind of move and operate
in the world as a unit and i don't know why but a flock of birds or a school of fish is coming
to my mind and how there is this this telepathic connection in that you're able to communicate
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energetically on such a sub perceptual level and that you don't it's not telepathy in in the way
that you think always um that's described in the movies of like i heard their voice in my head
which yes can happen and much more of that is on a sub perceptual basis in that there's just almost
this energetic resonance that happens with the other person that you're able to perceive at kind
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of a microscopic level and i wonder if you could share a little bit about how that telepathy in
that bond this journey um as children being exposed to uh trauma yourselves and to other people who
were your caretakers who had their own traumas you kind of built this superpower of being able to
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observe and sense other people's struggles and so how does that translate now into your healing
work together since you both have this deep connection and the ability to sense kind of what
other people might be struggling with together and in unison i think we have this like innate gift
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to like just love other people and just see them for their soul versus like through a lens of
i would say well it's usually projection so the fact that we like we love each other so much and
that we see each other for who we like every single piece of her i know and every single she's
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and it's just unconditional love in that way we've been able to welcome a lot of people into our
healing space and give them unconditional love as well because ultimately it's trauma everyone
just has a lot of trauma and that's kind of what we can sense and we can kind of sense what they
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they really just need nurturing so whenever someone like comes and lays on our Reiki table
i always or for a lot of them i see their inner child and i see them as their younger self and
i usually comfort that during the Reiki and it's kind of like a fragment retrieval because when
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we go through trauma as children we kind of leave off our trauma in general we leave off parts of
our souls so i feel like by really loving them as who they are now who they were who they will be
then that's the kind of healing the world needs and it really sparks something inside of them
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because they may have never felt that before like full acceptance no judgment and that brings out
something i think loving people and loving ourselves like in the present moment like as we are
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even though i think we all strive for better we all strive for greater and i think that's important
too but really being in the present moment with somebody who is maybe like the wounds are still
open or gaping and still just loving them with the wound it's because it's almost like a part of
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i guess like the telepathic reality that she and i share because we really are telepathic like
there's there was one of our after i talk there's a couple of instances that came through reminders
of how many times i say something and i'm literally said i had that thought last week and i'm like
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you didn't tell me i know i forget to share and i don't share oh my gosh it happens all the time
all the time and i think it's a profound thought and i'm like it's an original thought if i know
she's so excited about it she's like i already thought it and she starts walking away like oh
i love so much that you brought up an example yeah it's we've been playing with it a lot lately too
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like you know this is the thing listeners like it's just the first invitation to just take a
breath because that was that was a whole lot of information but like it doesn't all have to be so
serious right like i am having a little this gift come online very hard you know i shared a few things
with y'all and one of those was uh you know that includes hearing not positive things right um and
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i'm still learning to navigate like when i hear people's very um you know sexually inappropriate
thoughts or something like that but yeah it can be fun too and something we i i don't know i guess
i speak for me and play around with is like i'll try and like beam him things yeah like that i want
or like i'll think about something and i'm like oh that's a really good idea and then i'll get his
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attention like not physically um you know try and imagine this if you can listeners but like i'll
energetically like call to him um with that in mind and then he'll be like hey you know buh buh
and i'll be like i was just having that thought you know like it can be fun and again as y'all are
showing like eric and i didn't have this when we met like this is something that developed
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i mean in in a sense did but like at this level you know it is a skill and it is something that
you learn when you don't have all this distortion right and all this interference and all these
chemicals and toxins and beliefs and that's energies and i could go on for hours but yeah it
also is learned by staying in relationship with someone for an extended period of time
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yeah you know in a society where lots of people are constantly moving and shifting relationships
because they get activated and it's like no it's not me it's you and then we yeah and then we separate
and we we look for something externally of ourselves to fulfill ourselves rather than learning to
fulfill ourselves in our existing relationships and to love in a more conscious level if we're able
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to stay in relationship and focus on growth in that relationship whether it's friendship whether
it's family whether it's um a romantic partnership you get to do more life with that person and so
you get to perceive more and there's almost this unification that starts to happen where especially
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over the last like i want to say three three or four years uh since we started this healing journey
and kind of entered in the the second phase of our our relationship together we've started to
have this experience of blending in that we've almost forgotten which mannerisms are who's and
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who started it and and we're starting to adopt and mirror each other in certain ways i said that
no i said that was my idea like where oh this was your thought
it's it's it's a funny experience but it's beautiful that y'all have that and that you've
been able to nurture that over this time period it the show senseate comes to mind from netflix
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where people are able to connect psychically these soul clusters and they're able to actually
move their consciousness into other peoples of the same cluster's body and be able to support
one another and that's that's this thing is like yes this can be fun and amazing and light and it's
also deeply healing because when you begin to merge and connect with another person you start to
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experience and almost take on some of the the struggles that they're being asked to work through
and being asked to heal and so you have a very unique way of being able to actually hold and
support that person in their healing it leads perfectly into my next question which i'm just
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we didn't talk about this when we got together which i'm realizing i did it again i get so excited
in these episodes and i forget to give context on like how the heck we know each other we were
introduced we were actually connected through drew of cosmic light force we also interviewed him on
the show and yeah he just was like you're gonna be in the outer banks like you need to meet these
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people and immediate soul family right immediate we've known each other for a very long time so
that's how we know y'all but we didn't get to talk about this when we we got to see you and
your shop which we'll mention in the end definitely the reiki twins store which is like
oh my gosh exquisite the crystals um we lost me there for a second i went to crystal fantasy
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land yeah so i'd love to ask yeah i would love to ask about conflict because this is something
we talk a lot about on the show we're very vulnerable here in what our patterns are and what
you know we're overcoming and how we're doing this because you have a mirror right this is and in way
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more sense than we'll ever understand a literal mirror since birth that is like half your DNA
or however twins work and so i'd love if you could touch on and talk a little bit about how do you
two manage conflict that what does that look like and how are you navigating that in conscious
relating as sisters yes we have conflict yes we do conflict um yes so it's very hard the one thing
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about our life is that we have been crammed into tiny spaces and we have not been given a lot of
living space like it's very very hard to find housing here in the outer banks but like throughout
this whole time we had one lease and that just went down the and just didn't end well so we
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didn't want to sign another lease for a while so um we fight because we really don't have a lot of
space and we are very different like in certain i'm very type a i really kind i like to yeah
yeah plan and like you know take action and do things and kind of like keep things i don't know
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my i do have like my own space now but kind of keep it nice and yeah yeah i'm more like um
the destruct yes stir i will destroy things i'll come in like a freaking like bomb and just be like
but and she's like that and i'm like i don't know if you're ready for all this and then
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homework everywhere yeah i experiment with a lot of stuff i'm constantly experimenting with like
different supplements and different healing modalities and she's like what are you doing and
like over here in my life lab and science she's like you're getting everywhere and i'm like i gotta
figure this out or something every time i mean it's talking to me and she's like i don't know
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what i mean we we do and we've been put under a little and i i don't want it to all be like this
is been like you know dark you know hard like so hard so challenging so stressful because she and i
have transmitted a lot we're very fortunate yes we're very fortunate and we and we transmit a
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lot through laughter like we'll have people who tell us that our laughter has a frequency so once
we start like we'll just and it's a communication thing that we have so she'll laugh i'll laugh and
they're like you just like spoke to each other on a different level and i'm like yeah because you
know sometimes you just you know we have to laugh i love jesse's manners and i think she's
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hilarious i think she's precious and i think she like lights up the room there's so many i could
it's endless love it's an endless love it is and i think in many ways the darkness i was muted i said
jules is on fun today i'm odd no you're on one like with the consequence and the kindness i love it
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it's very sweet it's how i think about people i never i don't know how to like i don't want to
yeah she's she deserves it like she's the freaking she's the strongest you're too person like she is
the strongest she is a strong soul like we we've been faced with some pretty interesting pretty
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challenging things that i don't think anybody like we're 29 and i don't think anybody like even it
doesn't even matter there's things that she and i have seen in face that other people just won't
ever face like in this lifetime and i think like watching her face it while she has to do with me
i'm like please like this girl is like on another level of like yeah it's it's hard to not i mean
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it's impossible not lover jubilee i'm very like yeah maternal you want to add something yeah the
roles are it's like a maternal i felt like very maternal towards her since we were young i felt
like i had to take over like this caring role because i could see that she wasn't getting
nurturing i mean i wasn't either but i there's like this protector side of me that like really
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wants to help other people feel better but also i think is like kind of like a peacekeeper trauma
response to in a way so it's something i'm working through i just call in support when we get in
fights i call in like backup i like call my friends or i'll just like get it like our will
just gets like some of our friends to like intervene and yeah kind of like to help us see
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i don't need to react so much yeah it's control thing i think most of our conflict stems from
insecurity and well unprocessed insecurity you know like facing our own personal wounds with
you know our beings and then also like responsibility too we have just this innate sense of responsibility
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for consciousness it's not just me and her like it's there is a lot of people involved in how we
operate and there's a lot of things it's just almost like the the birthplace of a lot of things
comes between jesse nice connection and our imagination like i said our creative what is
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happening before it comes in the physical there's a lot of that that goes on and a lot of it almost
seems like it's it's not a it's not like third dimensional it's not really like physical where
we have like just this ability to just do it it's not always doing there's a lot of like
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being with it a lot of thinking it before it comes to you and a lot of patience there's a
lot of patience i mean we're constantly tested with that yeah thank you both for sharing that
as someone who's in a i would say almost equally as close less being together since birth relationship
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we also have a lot of space we live in a 28 foot travel trailer and we are business partners and
we are best friends and we are spiritual partners and we are so many things and conflict is i don't
know i guess when i think of like literally any other relationship i've ever had like this is so
different in like the conflict like the highs are so high that the like conflict is so on the other
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end of the spectrum and like learning to like you said like just navigate that and not react and
remember remember the love right like that's what the show was born from is trying to show other
people you know you are not your conflict like you are not your patterns or your behaviors or
traumas or your wounds like any of that stuff um and like really loving people you know for who
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they inherently are and kind of that core essence which there's two other things i want to ask you
and i want to talk a little bit about empathy and this what you were saying about like seeing people
for their inner children and this beautiful skill you both have i i felt it from you immediately we
talked really deeply about it and then of course i want to talk about rakey but in this kind of
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empathy realm you know what a gift it through both your traumas and your twin ship that you learned
this very early on um i had twin ship a twin ship um yeah i don't know where that came from you're
welcome you may have it i created it just for you thank you we have a twin ship
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it's ship oh am i being too nice to you honestly i think i might not even take that out because
that was wild and i think you're gonna hear it in the sound our door just popped like opened like
our and in rvs if you're not familiar you saw it's like a metal handle that you have to pull
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yes and our door just flew up we're running some interference sorry about that back to what i was
saying and believe you've had this beautiful opportunity since you were young to like really
develop this skill and what i kept hearing when you were talking was like your poison became your
medicine your poison became your medicine right like for me as a child growing up also very challenging
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and i had to learn to be very hyper attuned to the energy the situation and the mood specifically
of those around me and so through that trauma right that's a large word but through that experience
i then learned to be very hyper i mean like i'm another gift coming on right now is seeing or
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i'm seeing energies and so like i literally see the oric and energetic shift when someone switches
into like anger or dishonesty or fear like it's yeah it'll be palpable and so yeah i would love
so much if you just whatever direction you want to take it but sharing a bit about that empathy
and that love because i think it's something we so desperately need in this world and i would love
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for our listeners to take some of that home today and you guys are a beautiful example of an entire
lifetime of developing and honing this seeing people's inner children and choosing love i mean
you didn't really have a choice right like you're a squint and empathy and compassion because
it's what makes you the beautiful healers you are and why you're so successful and why you're so
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incredible which we'll talk about in our last question but oh however you feel called to to
take this i would just love to hear more of your perspective on this you know empathy lens
i think we grew up witnessing how not to treat other people just because we were bullied we were
targeted like called out in front of our family like consistently just like torn down and i could
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feel that within me and i knew it did not feel good so i would never in my head i said i will never
want to make someone feel this way and i'm they true to that i believe um sometimes you know you
have to set boundaries and do what you got to do but i've never taken out any sort of like
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aggression or pain on other people because i'm very aware that it would be from my own
pain except sometimes maybe like some experiences but you know well in college maybe but that was
like not me you know sometimes you have to go through those kinds of things yeah so i just felt
like i learned to do the opposite of what i witnessed and i think that that's part of us as
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humans we're all very connected there is a collective consciousness where our energies
affect each other and when we have higher frequency emotions higher frequency experiences
those trickle out into the rest of the world and helps in some way and the more that we focus on
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opening our hearts because it's ultimately our heart chakras that connect us and it's worth
we're magnetic here so we attract we attract and if we remain open from this center we can really
start to attract beautiful connections that bring you things that you need and you don't have to
worry about physical the way that this matrix operates where we have to work work work for our
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needs but really it's about our connections with other people and building a support system
and having no really family growing up to go to we have learned to build our own family this way
because people need empathy and they can feel it and they start to really grow from it and then
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it's kind of like a it's like a pay it forward effect so i think that kindness is so important
i think it can really like shift us out of a lot of things and that's something that i think that
this reality could really use more of and some a message that they need to hear so yeah yeah i agree
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i agree oh you agree yeah from what you just shared jesse and then jules what you shared earlier
when you were talking about the healing and holding people in unconditional love i'm starting to see
this pattern between the both of you and that you're able to really hold somebody in their most
innocent presence right to be able to be able to see someone's inner child regardless of what's on
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the surface that's a very potent healing medicine because you know in this partnership
it's been a lot of reclaiming our inner children and when i can see my partner no matter how
they are expressing as the inner child it immediately depolarizes any sort of reaction
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within myself to to kind of add fuel to the fire and to be able to move into this caretaker and
kindness role that the divine mother and the divine father play in our experience right and to be able
to hold her in a space of healing and for us similar to you it's been this like deep deep
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unconditional love and that i think by itself is the most potent medicine that either of us have
ever experienced because when my partner held me in unconditional love when i came to and you
came conscious and realized the negative patterns that were in my my experience the addictions that
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i was facing the the true pain that i had caused my partner and to see them be able to see me
in my pain and how essentially i was just acting out of all my previous programming and hold me
in a space of unconditional love there was no there's there was nowhere for the ego to go
right there's no like you can't love me right now like what's it gonna fight you know and
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and what that's the deepest healing that we found is being able to just completely depolarize
the defense mechanisms that are present in our minds by just holding the space of unconditional
love and grace and i see that from both of you in how you interact with each other how you
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interacted with us in the space while we were physically together and how it seems you approach
your clients as well. Yeah it's so true leads us perfectly into our last question i i'm not gonna
i'm not gonna lie like as you were talking us like that's really true thank you for that reflection
and just what you were saying just so proud of how far we've come and i'm sure you just
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for that moment a lot as well like this work is challenging and you know like we are i so i say
light warrior i don't say like what we are warriors and yes what does a light warrior mean it literally
just means someone who's like doing the work and choosing love of and whatever that looks like you
don't have to use the words we use to bring more light into this world and into your heart and
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into the collective and so it leads us perfectly to rakey because i it was kind of and you can
fact check me my brain's a little fuzzy like our very very first awakening experience was our first
time with lsd where we like literally saw oneness but we were so asleep it was like wow that was
cool and then forgot it the next day but what actually truly like started our awakening journey
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was stumbling on rakey when like he was massaging me and you know we had connected with cannabis and
it was like what is like an energetic experience started happening and we are really big about
rakey i know you feel really called to it we do a lot of it we receive a lot of it and i would love
so much you know i feel like rakey is kind of rakey and acupuncture they feel like the two things
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that are bridging the gap you know of like i don't want to use this word because i don't know any
other word but like normies and like people who exist in the matrix in the western medicine and
aren't super spiritual or aren't really tapped into energy because that's really all any of this is
and then you have you know people like us who are and i feel like acupuncture and chinese medicine
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has been a really great door in and i feel like rakey is this thing that is just exploding right
now like everyone's doing rakey like you're seeing rakey everywhere and i love that because it's like
this subtle quiet like hey everything's energy you know like you can do this we can all do this we
can we can change energy we can not create energy but you know what i mean and so i would love so
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much from your perspective like what is rakey what does that look like for you too you know how
do you see rakey how do you what like maybe some of your success stories because something you really
pointed out jesse in the beginning is like people are not healing right like if there's one thing we
can agree on across no matter who's listening to this and what you believe people are getting sicker
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we're not healing and so obviously there's something further going on we agree with you here on the
show it's trauma trauma itself in the body it serves itself in the light body physically
energetically somatically and so yeah however you want to share about you know your journey with rakey
and how you see this helping people uh huh do you want to um sure do you want me to okay so for jesse
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and like rakey we like we we really just think of ourselves as i mean obviously light warriors but
also just energy workers so a lot of it we really just adopted the fact that rakey translates to the
word energy um and we kept the word rakey in our business in our work because we respect japan that
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was like and its origins of you know the japanese origins of dr yusai and how he channeled it and a
lot of text um and a lot of things that we were led to also connected rakey to like um extraterrestrial
origins too so the channeling of the symbols from uh his work dr yusai he there's been further
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research to say that he was channeling like arcturians and that's something that is very
resonates with jesse and i a lot the extraterrestrial just feeling like we are not of this world that
we are here to bring in a new isn't even new a forgotten a hidden way of thinking way of being
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that is much more naturally aligned because we are in the midst of a trans human agenda an agenda
that takes us away from human humaneness to artificial we're at a point in um civilization
where we can see that's happening everybody is on synthetic drugs people are wearing synthetic
clothes there's everything's tech not like through our phones through the screens at this point but
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in the same time there is a deep awakening happening within us because that's where everything
you know that's where everything is we have this internal consciousness this internal truth this
universe inside of us that connects to our source and so rakey is just that energy given to other
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people in a way where it's programmed intentionally spread to help and heal from the most positive
highest loving loving conscious consciousness we're not really like traditional i really consider it
more we we think of it as quantum work so the recalling of soul fragments the going back the
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going forward of bringing in things that other that may have been you know torn over time through
trauma and also you can send it to the future as well so that makes it like you know infinite we
don't see it as something that's super super like profitable in a way where we're gonna like just
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promote rakey to become something that ends up an institution it's not like that i think that rakey
to jesse and i is all it's free energy like in many ways it's something that people can comprehend
to open the doors to the consciousness of free energy and that it's abundant and then it doesn't
it's everywhere so eventually like we would love to just see people just being like i i know rakey
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i use it and it's a part of our as a norm that's ultimately like where it is but jesse and i were
so sensitive to energy and our like we were very wounded young and she went through the healthcare
system she went through what people what we're programmed to think is like a solution we were
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not awake we were awakened to like energy work but we were also awakened to the like fifth dimensional
consciousness as well so we don't see what we're doing we see what we're doing now as a bridge to
a higher realm of like free energy where healing is kind of even like something that we move beyond
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is a consciousness it becomes you know we're in a state of harmony and unity and i think where
there's light work warriors here to kind of bridge the gap between you know the old and the new
and healing is a is a dimension of consciousness that ultimately we can get to a state where we've
learned how our bodies work ultimately and how trauma works and our bodies have like this natural
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innate healing ability to fix problems that with you know the right kind of circumstances the right
kind of energetic healing and even like herbal remedies there's ways that we don't necessarily
have to be dependent on you know the current healthcare system and i believe that the the
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reiki is the start of like kind of a new healthcare our way to look at it because the people that come
in here they're look they're usually there where their last resort but that's okay because it really
works and they come they find us they want to shift something they want to shift out of old
habits they want to change things but they've been stuck so we work with them we get them
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unstuck and then we witness them grow and not really need us as much like we still talk but they
don't need our services as much and that's the exact thing that we want for them that we do not
want them to be dependent on us we just want to be like all part of their journey and then they
move on and they they grow and they experience more things for them themselves and for their souls so
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we've had a lot of people just come go but we also have a lot of people who do rely on our
services for the most part right now but it's usually very temporary and we've seen just huge
shifts and like actually wanting to live they usually want to do something with themselves
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after they start seeing us and they'll they'll branch out they'll just take big leaps of faith and
really it all starts to align or they'll meet like the right person or they'll find love for
themselves more and it really helps with like a lot of chronic illnesses and pain especially pain so
we get a lot of feedback about that yeah I love so much what you brought up in the end there and
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I'm just gonna kind of spit some things out because I remember when I learned about Reiki I mean this
was a couple years two three years ago now but I was really surprised I had so many like maybe
just like assumptions and preconceived notions in my head like for example this can be done
across time and space right so like you could you don't even need to be on a zoom with me you can
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send me Reiki um you can do treatments you know over zoom which is amazing because as we saw with
the events of 2020 and on um you know we're in a much more digital world now and so yeah it's really
beautiful to see this see this healing happening and see this resurgence of I love so much that you
reminded like it's not new it's ancient to me Reiki always brings me back to the core truth that like
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everything's energy if we can do this I mean what can't we do right like the possibilities are endless
like if you can understand that twins can telepathically communicate because so can you with
literally anyone and it just really opens the box of possibilities and I think this is I don't think
right this is why these things have been suppressed and have been you know discarded as woo woo and
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crazy and all of this stuff because yeah that's that's powerful right it's so powerful and so
Reiki is a really beautiful way I feel like that we can start to take that power back being this
infinite free energy that is equally and abundantly given to us all so thank you both for you know what
you're doing and the the people that you're helping because I think people like us um us I mean the
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four of us but you know like like workers and and really empaths and I think I wanted to touch on
that too I think that word is massively overused in a way like people don't really understand what
that means yeah like oh yeah I'm an empath like yeah people's feelings and it's so much more than that
yes and you know being an empath like we are I feel like the chosen ones something beautiful I heard
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recently was the chosen ones are the one who the ones who chose which well that was amazing thank you
Z for a star for that but we are the ones that are called to heal those things right like and I
am I just don't know why this is coming to my mind I feel like it's a really good example to use but
like child trafficking or child abuse yeah sexual abuse like maybe not even just on children like
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those people need healing too right yes like you can only really truly meet those people and heal
them when you are in the frequency of empathy and compassion because yeah we all were children we
all were innocent at some point and so I feel like the the way forward for humanity is remembering
that and for people like us you know getting out there and being able and willing to hold space for
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everyone right we all need love like that's the core basis of the show is if we're going to heal
we're all going to do it together yes thank you for your part in that healing what you've just
shared is essentially the fact that you know and because energy unites us we have the capacity to
heal on these quantum levels and the beautiful part about what y'all have done with your practice
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specifically is that there is definitely a focus and an emphasis on actual healing and allowing
people to move on versus the dependency that most people experience with the western system
which is holistic healing right it's yes it's an umbrella but really what what it is is
finding the core root of whatever is causing a distortion in your in your life healing it and
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moving on right not taking a pillow for the rest of your life yes when we do this type of healing
work you know it was through healing my partner that I learned how to find healing within myself
you know and it's almost like there's this dance and this balance between
those of us who've been called to this higher level of healing and those who are seeking healing
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work in that you go and you experience this deeper level of healing and it actually activates the
healer within you and then you are then able to go out into your community and do healing in your
own relationships and within your own self and then on a higher level when we all get to that
point to be able to actually send this unconditional love and this energy for these states of
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consciousness in the collective you know the sexual perversion state of consciousness the war
consciousness the slavery consciousness yeah and to be able to hold that consciousness in our
awareness with unconditional love and actually do healing work for all of us as a species
yeah it's just there's just no end to it and when we all come back to the true and real
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alignment of who we are as humanity and we come back together in union and be able to consciously
relate with everything around us that's our natural state of being that it's all unconditional love
and that we find ourselves no longer needing healing because healing's been done and we can just
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live from that place of unconditional love exactly exactly why we do what we do
do what we do I also love thank you for for sharing the the darkness of your experience too
because you know we we've come on and we've shared a lot of our story yes and the conflict
that can arise in our partnership yes sometimes conscious relating gets glorified in this space
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I'm like oh I'm just gonna go get in a conscious relationship and we're gonna be happy 100% of
the time you know spiritual ego even got me just the other day I was like I want us to be happy all
the time yeah you know it's like that I was like I don't it's like it's actually you know beautiful
to have these catalysts and to continue growing and to be able to unconditionally love whoever
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you're in relationship with allows you to live out these catalysts to their full extent and
actually learn the lessons and actually grow it's not about achieving a relationship that has no
conflict it's about being able to return to love in the relationship that you have regardless of
what comes up and continue learning and continue growing together that's very important very important
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mm-hmm I love you guys so much love you I'm so glad you came here and what a just what a beautiful
I don't know personally I'm not saying they don't exist but I don't know any other light workers
star seed twins I don't y'all are pretty epic and you just have such a unique perspective so thank you
for sharing your story on how you're navigating this as twins and all the things and bringing this
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medicine of reiki to the show we have not done an episode about reiki yet so I would love to close
us out with some info on y'all and I don't actually know the answer to this do you do virtual sessions
yes okay so you do offer virtual sessions yeah if you would plug you've got a website or socials
or however you want people to connect with you if they're interested in learning more about reiki
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and all the things we have a physical shop that we do healing sessions and it is located in downtown
manio north carolina especially like in the winter time we have a lot of time to do like long
distance sessions we do virtual healing we do readings virtually julie does past life regressions
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and that's able to be done long distance as well you can visit our website reiki twins.com
there's a lot more information on there we have instagram and facebook reiki twins so yeah that's
really I mean answer emails I mean yeah yeah we're around so they could telepathically call out to you
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yes so well a long time I know when someone's about to call me but it's like it's really
amplified it's wild I will definitely plug all of those beautiful things in the show notes I obviously
can't recommend y'all enough as people and star seed family and your shop is beautiful everything is
I mean exquisitely chosen I have quite a few crystals for you in my house I don't know how many did we
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get seven eight ten I don't know it doesn't matter not enough we didn't get enough but beautiful
products and beautiful people so thank you both for sharing your love and and coming on here and
yeah I would love it let's just like close it out with y'all do you have any anything any advice or
any words you'd like to share with people as they're navigating their journeys maybe something that's
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helped you and going back to like talking about us sharing the dark parts and seeing
the darkness is important and like really and not necessarily like being in that space all the time
but there's a lot of there's a lot of illumination that absolutely needs to happen in that space of
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shadow it can explain a lot of what people feel when you're able to comprehend pain and trauma
and looking at it from a perspective of loving it like loving every single piece
and every single experience you went through because it made you like it makes you a stronger
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more resilient person like really working with resiliency justin I we've always saw
that word's always resonated for us both like the resilient being of like constantly death and
rebirth and bringing yourself back to life I almost think is it's a phenomenal thing that we can do
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as humans and it separates us into this into our divinity yeah it's okay to step out of your
comfort zone because fear is fear is the frequency that has really held us back from soul evolution
oftentimes that's just a program and something that we can work through and we can change our
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thoughts and kind of break through certain patterns so we can really start to live instead of just exist
because we're really really beautiful pieces of advice and sentiment so thank you both so much
thank you thank you for showing people you know it can be done and we can we can choose love we
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can't consciously relate and if y'all can do it being stuck with each other since in the womb
then anyone can do it