January 8, 2024 • 50 mins
Rick DeTata shares a story of someone who decides what they want and makes it happen. Currently living as a retired firefighter, Veteran of the Air Force and Navy as a Desert Storm Naval Aviator, one thing he has never retired is his determination to stay good looking, fit and strong. Rick bluntly states there are no secrets, if someone wants to achieve a goal they must go after it and take the necessary steps to make it happen. He shares details of how fitness is a lifestyle and being an avid sport fisherman as a hobby helps to maintain both his physical and mental wellbeing. This man is truly capable of anything and a lifetime of staying fit while cracking jokes along the way, has no doubt helped him to create the confidence, drive and success he enjoys today. Find him on TikTok @justa.guy53 where he makes comedic videos to get through todays political issues.
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This is Angela Grayson fromthe Loving Life Fitness Podcast.
To help others in their fitnessjourney.
It's all possible! It’s timeto wake up.
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Here we go.
Hello, everyone.
This is Angela Grayson from theLoving Life Fitness Podcast,
where we talk to professionaland everyday people
just like you about how to livea better life through health
and fitness.
And today on the show,we have with us a very good
(00:55):
friend, Rick DeTata,that I've known almost my
whole life.
He was best friendof my husband's way back
when 1976 we met?
Oh my gosh a long time ago.
Hey, Rick, How ya doin?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm honoredthat she said yes.
(01:15):
I'll be on my show because Rickis one of the most
avid people I knowabout staying fit and healthy
throughout his entire life.
I'm not scared to say I'm 63and I have.
But you guys never know thatRick was the age that he is.
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So, Rick, let's stow awayanything about to you.
Even before I met here.
What kind of a kid were youand why didn't you get involved
so much in helping then us?
Well, actually, it was my fatherwho pushed me into it because
my father was likehe was a mixture of half
Tony Soprano and halfArchie Bunker.
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So typical New Jersey Italian.
He was always preachingabout fitness as he smoked
his camel Cigarets.
But before my brother and Icould go out to play in
the summertime and this isin the sixties
before pretty muchfitness was a fad, but there was
Jack LaLanne back in those daysof people remember that
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he would make us do100 pushups and 300
sit ups every day beforewe could go out and play
while he'd be old breath like,you know, with a cigaret
in his mouth doing,you know, one, two count.
So he would do that, have to dothat every day.
And then he was pretty strictabout that.
And then so that started that.
But as time went on, I sproutedup, I got taller, but I was
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so skinny.
I was just so self-consciousabout being skinny.
I mean, becauseI loved girls and,
you know, I wasI used to look at bodybuilding
magazines and I mean, I waswhen I say skinny, I mean,
people used to call me olderone day, want to be alone.
That's how skinny I was.
Generation, you know.
So I was I do a lot of reading,but then did a lot of surfing
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and didn't do any working outreally through high school.
But right after high school,your husband Billy and I went in
the Air Force and we happenedto be stationed up
in the mountains of Germany.
We took a bus ride upthis mountain was just going up
and up and up and up, andit was a building there.
I said, Was this thebus station?
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The driver said, No,this is your base.
Get out.
It was a small, tiny baseand it wasn't much there,
but there was a gym there.
And so both he and Idecided that we're going to
start working outevery single day.
And it started thereand it's continued
48 years later for myself.
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You know, I just I just reallynever stopped because I
saw progress within a yearI went home.
I mean, I went in at £130and I went home a year
later on leave at 160,and my arms were four
inches bigger, which isthat's like saying
the thread grew, you know,from dental floss to a piece
of string.
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But it was still noticeable.
My parents noticed this.
I got off the plane.
They were like, you know,and I like that feeling.
You know, people arerealize that working out
physical fitness is a great egomotivator and ego is a great
motivation because everybodywants to look good
about themselves.
You know, people go, Oh,why do you do that
for your health?
They go, Yeah,that's part of it.
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You know, I like to look good,you know, to be that.
And people do it.
And anybody in the gymwho tells you that's not
about ego, they're like,You know what I mean?
Because it is.
So I started working outback then.
We got out of the Air Force,and then when I got out,
I continued.
I joined a gym and actuallyI actually became manager
of that jet.
So then it started from there.
(04:42):
Then I got bigger and biggerand I think my high
school reunion, my 10th year,I got voted most change
because I graduated at 120and went back A220 and I
did some competitions andit was fun.
But then from then on I justI just kept going on
and on and on and, and,and the thing about the thing
about working out isif you want to
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stay with it, it'sgot to become part
of a lifestyle for you.
Just like getting upand brushing your teeth
or the lifestyleyou know, you do it and people
say, Well, I don't have time.
If you have an hour to dayto watch television,
you have an houra day to work out.
But the thing about working outis and any exercise,
anything in life, you have towant to do it.
You have to want to do it.
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And if you don't want to do it,there's not anybody in
the world to them say to makeyou want to do it if you don't
want to.
So that's how it started for me.
Now, I remember when I metmy husband, you guys were
working out in your garage spacecoming back out, and you're
a believer in there, the garageworking out.
Your little brotherSteve sometimes was out there.
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And that's when I got to knowyour mom and dad, too,
with great family.
But how great is it to havea good friend that you
could start working out withand continue?
And you guys were opposites.
You were a skinny kid trying toget bigger and he was the
heavier kid trying toget stronger and have more
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body composition.
And when I met you guys,you were both in great shape.
You know, I was like, Wow, thatthese guys.
Cause I fell in love, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, we played offof each other.
He was trying to lose weightand get bigger, and I was trying
to gain weight, get bigger.
So we played off of each other.
And every time we went tothe beach or Billy would
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say, Well, we can't go.
We can't go to the beach.
We got to do push upsin a parking lot
first to pump up,but we couldn't.
So to this day, every timeI go to a beach, I look at the
parking lot, you know, I laughbecause we actually got down
in the parking lot, did pushthe pump up, and we weren't
really that big back there.
You know what I mean?
I think I was like £160at that particular time.
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You know, we're just not biglike I said, it gets in your DNA
and it stays there.
And and that's how it ends upuntil you're 66 years
old, like being still doing itevery single day, which I just
just came back to the gym beforethis podcast.
I mean, I was there for an hourand a half, you know, I mean,
and it's what I do.
But he you said that you werein competition.
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I didn't even know that.
What part of your life was that?
That must have been only kind ofdrifted off on separate
directions for a while.
Somebody Not thatthat was in the early eighties.
I dabbled in it.
I worked out at a gymcalled the Polo Gym
in Fort Lauderdale.
It was pretty much strictlya bodybuilding gym competition.
Bodybuilding gym hardcore.
Not like today, not likewhere you go to the gym today,
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where you got somebodyfollowing you, wiping down
the machines and moppingbehind you.
And it's almost a sterileenvironment.
Now, this was a hardcorebodybuilding gym chalked on
the floor and and equipmentand but with the guys
there were hardcorededicated guys, you know,
I mean then competitionwas bonded.
The hard part about bodybuildingcompetition is the dieting,
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because you want to tryto get up on that stage
about 2% body fat and it'sit's really talk I mean you're
sucking on ice cubesthat into the fish out of the
can the last three daysbefore the competition
I never made it big in thatbut it was fun.
It was fun to compete there.
It was it was interesting,you know, And you what you're
in that group of people.
You kind of you kind ofyou got to stay
with those peoplebecause they're your friends
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and they understandthe struggles of working out
and competing and dietingand dieting is the worse.
It's absolutely worse,if you like, to eat.
I mean, like I said, tuna fishout of the can walking down
with water, you know, it'sand now today, dieting is a
total science.
I mean, it's so muchdifferent back from the
early eighties, that was whatI didn't stick or die.
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I did a little benchpress contest and
stuff like that.
But mostly the bottomI worked out just to look good
and feel good and, you know,strut on the beach and that's
what we did.
You know, we'd goas a group of guys
in the eighties, just go toHollywood Beach and put our
blankets down and look at thegirls, you know?
I mean, that's what it was,you know, a little bit
more about competition.
And, you know, MichelleMelody's daughter, Melody,
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for everybody, just aquick little.
So, you know, is my husbandand sister and her
daughter, Richelle.
She tried to get intocompetition.
One time and she wasreally big into working out and,
oh, my gosh, like you said ofthe dieterbohn, if you don't
have a coach, it's like somuch information that you
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need to know.
You're training for apretty long time to go in
competition and the dayof the competition, what you're
on that stage andyour carbohydrates
are down to zero,you're dehydrated, you're not
very healthy when you'reon that stage and you're posing
and cramping up and stuff.
So, I mean, it could be it couldget dangerous.
I had a friend of minewon a competition, and the night
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of the competitionis Father's room.
The big party there werevery Italian and Italian
restaurant.
We had a big party with lasagnaand pizza, and he was eating
like crazy.
But yeah, but the problem wasit was also dehydrated time.
The next morning, he woke upwith severe edema.
He gave like£40 overnight.
So he had to go to the hospitaland they had to give them
all kind of Lasix to drain them.
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And his ankle swelled up,his deck swelled up.
So it could be dangerous.
It could be very dangerous.
Yeah.
Really, They're goingto need more get a get a trainer
who really knowswhat they're doing.
Right.
Right now at this age,the competition is just looking
in the mirror every day.
And it hope that I lookbetter than I did
the day before.
Right now, you competing,get yourself as you get older,
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you start competingagainst yourself, especially as
you get a career.
You get less time.
And during those daysI was a bartender and a bouncer
in Hollywood, in Fort LauderdaleBeach.
And, you know, you hadyour work tonight.
You had the whole day off.
You had nothing to dobut work out.
But now you know what?
You get a career and you'removing on and you're
kind of drift offfrom that stuff.
You know, just work outjust to feel good and look good.
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Yeah.
And okay, so let's talka little bit backwards top about
the insecuritiesof being skinny.
I just did a recording withsomebody else the other day
who most of her life aftershe had her two children,
she was so skinnyand had no shape to her,
just the way her body was.
And she talked about howhard it was because
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not only tan peoplebeing mean to those
who are overweight, but peoplecan be mean to those
who are underweightor her own family telling her
you need to eat more.
And she was she was eatinglike 4000 calories a day.
But the her digestive system waslike crazy and it was just
going right through her.
Did you ever experienceanything like that?
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See, I was never eater.
That was my problem.
I just didn't like to eat.
To this day, I'm not an either.
I'm not a foodie.
I eat to live.
I don't live to eat like somepeople do.
You don't. I mean.
I mean, I'm good with a proteinshake and, you know, and the
chicken breast and the saladand I'm good.
My treat is a pizza.
Once every three weeks I havetwo or three slices of that.
And I'm done.
So I was so scaredbecause I used to come from
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an Italian family,which my mother cooked
all the time.
My father used to get worried.
He goes, Well,why don't just get
one of the skinny?
Yeah, she bought meprotein powder back in the
early seventies to gain weight,but the protein powder back then
was literally you had to put itin a cement mixer
and it literally, if you didn'tswallow hard in your mouth
and it's not like the proteinsthey have today, which dissolves
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immediately in the shakerand they taste great.
They they taste like alike dirt drink.
Yes. Yeah.
And not, you know, and I wasn'tgaining weight no matter what.
But the only reason why I mean,when I went to Air Force,
I only made the Air Force by £1for my height because I have
the light weight restrictions.
I only made it by £1.
And because the summer we wentin, I was eating eaten bananas
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and peanut butter and anythingI could get my hands on again,
a little bit of weight.
You become very self-consciouswhen you're not happy
with your body.
You're very self-conscious.
I mean, I used to goto the beach with a shirt on.
Like I said, I would look atbodybuilding magazines and
especially backin the early days when Arnold
Schwarzenegger came out in 1975,the movie Pumping Iron came out,
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which pretty much kicked offthe whole bodybuilding
explosion.
Look at that.
And you all look in the mirror.
And I had long brown hair.
I looked like a dirty mop,you know, I felt so I had a
pirate's dream.
I had a sucking chest, you know.
But then what you decideor once I decided that I was
no longer going to look likethis anymore, that's when
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like I said, in Germany,when we got to there and it was
very small based,it was a much ado.
I basically lived in that gym.
I ate well.
I started reading abouteating protein and everything,
and my body kind of explodedthat year and I haven't
stopped since.
Well, I've beenthe same weight now for years
because I don't wantto get any bigger
or any smaller.
So I just maintain my weightright now.
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I mean, I'm 25.
I've been to five, 20 year.
Yeah.
So tell us about what you doeat on a daily basis.
The pretty first thing I dowhen I get up in the morning,
I drink eight ounces of waterbecause you have to replenish
your water.
It's good for your organs, it'sgood for your skin.
So I drink that and then I'mwhat I'll do.
I'll have a bowl of oatmealor a bowl of rice with a
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protein drink, which isthe protein about 48 to 50
grams of protein.
And then I'll go to the gymand then I'll workout,
do my workout, I'll come home,and then I'll have
usually three eggs like sunnyside up or scrambled or even
hard boiled, and then with maybesome more oatmeal or rice.
The afternoons consist of likea gross of chicken breast
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or a piece of meat, and thenmid afternoon is another protein
drink and and dinner is usuallyon a steak.
I'll get a piece of nice steakgrilled back or, or fish.
I don't like fish.
I don't, I don't like fish.
And I people say thatHow could you be a fish?
Better not like fish.
I fish with a sport, not a food.
There are some fishnow that I prefer, like flounder
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or mahi or grouper.
But other than that, I'mjust not a fish person.
So the fish that I do eat,I fall down, you know,
that's about it by that'smy daily intake.
You know what I mean?
I'm £205, so I try to take inthat many grams of protein
a day, at least 205grams of protein per day.
And I do thatthrough supplements
with the protein drinkbecause like I said, the protein
drinks are good.
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They taste like dirt,they taste like chocolate milk.
You know, you drink those downand nuts.
You got 50 grams of proteinwith admits.
That's my and then I'dlove sweets so I cheat
on the weekends.
Well, I'm not goingto be a slave to my body,
you know, I mean, backin the day when you compete
and you're younger and you wantto look the best
you possibly can,and when you're
in the bodybuilding or thefitness world, you are slaves
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of your body.
Well, you know, you're not.
But you see, peoplewalking through the gym
in Tupperware is eating riceand green wine.
And I mean, I lookat those people today. I left.
Now I said, I'm so donewith that.
I'm not going to be slaves.
My body, I want to cheat.
If I want a job at the bar,I'm going to eat it.
But I also with that being said,I do a lot of cardio.
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I ride my bike, I have a carbonfiber fitness bike.
I ride because we have a nicepath by my house,
which are asphalt baths.
It's four miles in eitherdirection, so I'll get on that
and I'll tie myself.
So I'll do anywherefrom 45 to 50 miles
a week on my bike.
These are not just pleasurerides.
These are getting my heartrate up to 160 and really moving
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or and I and I switch mycardio around and then the day
is going to do my bike.
I'll use the treadmill to jam.
I'll do the treadmill for acouple of miles.
I'll put it on an incline soit works on my legs.
And I you know, I can't dosquats anymore.
Work with my knees are not whatthey used to be.
My leg workout consists ofa lot of leg presses, leg curls
on machines and my bike riding.
But then I'll switch it up.
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I'll do the Stairmasterin a gym, which is a whole
different world.
When you do the Stairmaster.
The Stairmaster is differentthan any of the cardio because
it's like climbing stairsthat never end.
You know what I mean?
And your heart rate jumpsreally fast.
So I maintain a good heart rateand that's that's what keeps
my weight.
Even So, if I have a pizza,especially doing
a Christmas storyor a lot of candies
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and fudge and and pastasand stuff, I'm not going to deny
myself that.
But the next dayI get to the gym.
I burn it off as much as I can.
Now, you know your meal planon the way and you have it
on most days of a week probablyyou're basically eating
five meals a day.
You might not be, you know, fivebig meals, but you're eating
five times a day.
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And that's keep that metabolismgoing, too.
So the cardio top weight eat,it is really helpful.
So what if you want a candy baror ice cream or whatever go for?
Right. Right.
I came after the Air Force.
I went to college.
I got out of college in 1986.
I wanted to be into navalaviation.
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So I joined the Navyand I got to do naval aviation.
But it was just the oppositethis time.
When I went to the recruiter'soffice, I was to 40
and he says, Wow, I can't eventalk to you till you drop
down £35.
So that's summerbefore I went to aircrew school
or flight school.
Now you talk about eatingto fish out of the can.
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I was just I was fastingtuna fish out of the can
and I did it.
I dropped out, I dropped £35.
But people think it'sit's really hard to lose weight.
It's not the best thing to doto lose weight.
Don't eat so much.
Stay away from sugars,sugars, sugar, poison.
Sugar is probably thebiggest drug in the
United States right nowbecause sugar is in everything.
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You look at ketchup,it's got sugaring everything
that's sugar.
So if you if you want tolose weight, don't eat it.
I mean, not not to the pointwhere it's unhealthy.
But I believe in fasting.
I believe I've done intermittentfasting where you eat from
10 (18:30):
00 in the morning till maybe five at night.
Not another calorie
after 5 (18:37):
00
till 10 (18:38):
00.
The next morningyou'll drop weight,
you'll drop weight.
The only way you lose weightis taking in less calories
than you burn.
And the only way you gainweight is by taking
in more calories than you'reburning.
It's really not thatthat difficult.
It's not a hard equation.
You still where do youget your strength training
when you tried todrop the weight?
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Yeah.
Yeah, I did.
I did.
But at this point, I do a lot.
I'm all about repetitions now.
I mean, the joints are startingto hurt a little bit
more as you get older fromall the years of
of pounding away.
It's, you know, it's justbut you got to remember, back
in the eighties when I was withmy friends, we would pick
a body part, the threelegs, we'd squat for 3 hours
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just squatting, go heavy, wrap,wrap our knees up
with the table.
We'd go up to £600 and comeall the way back down.
And our we pick a like chest.
We'd be on a bench press.
Just it was crazy.
You know, when you're younger,you're stupid.
I mean, and now for allthe other things, the problem is
you get the feel that, you know,the joints are starting to get
a little arthritic.
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So my son works out.
My son's six one almost to 40.
He's a beast.
So he's like, Sowhat's your routine now, Dad?
I'm like, I go to the gym.
Whatever doesn't hurt thatparticular day.
That's the body part of work,you know what I mean?
So that's how it is now.
But I'm all aboutrepetitions now.
I don't I don't do the heavywith the four reps.
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I'm new to the 10th, 12, 15 repswhen I do my, my workouts now
you know.
Yeah.
And it saves your joints,you know, I mean I don't
push themselvesto the point where I'm in
a lot of pain where you can'tat this age.
I mean, I'm a four yearsfrom 70.
Think about it.
Think about your parentswhen they were 17.
I mean, I look I look atmy old aunts and uncles.
Well, they were 40.
They looked like they were 70,my friend.
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That an airplane we fly inon Wednesdays and we
promised ourselves when we wereon our toes that if we ever
turn 40, we're goingto crash the plane
into the Evergladesbecause we want to live
past 40 year old.
You're an old man.
It's one of those secret thingsto work it out that people
that don't.
I'm not just talkingabout weights.
I'll talk about exerciseand physical fitness.
It's the fountain of youth.
It really slows downthe aging process.
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You're not going to stop it.
Mother Nature is going totake over at one point,
but you really it really slowsyou down.
It really does.
And it's and because you'rebreaking down muscle, the brain
says, well, he's using that.
So what does he do?
The brain repairs that muscle.
And that's it'sa cycle breaks down
repair, break down repair.
And people who sit on the couchall day at night
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and don't work outtheir body says, well,
he doesn't need that.
So there's no need to putthe nutrients there
or repair it.
So that's called aging.
That's why you see some peoplethat are overweight and they,
you know, how old are you?
You're like, like I'm 42.
You're like, wow, you know,Jesus.
You know, genetics playsa huge part in
don't get me wrong,genetics is huge.
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My mother had anincredible genetics one when she
she passed away in her eightiesand she still did every wrinkle.
But genetics plays a part.
Laziness is very easy to acquireif you don't do it.
And at this point,the hardest part
about working out,the hardest part about going to
the gym is going to the gym.
Yes, getting a habit going,you know, or you might
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be addicted to sittingon the couch.
And now that habit, I'm involvedevery day in sitting
on the couch or what's yourother choice?
Well, the thing about itnow is the days
I feel like I'm not I don'twant to work out.
I push myself to go.
But some days, if I don'twork out, I feel worse.
If I didn't work out,it's almost it's
almost the guilt.
They it's almost an obsession.
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That might be an obsession or amental problem.
I don't know.
But it is what it is.
And.
But it doesn't matterbecause I like it.
Because it drives me.
It drives me to go to the gym,you know?
I mean, because if Iif I don't want to go
like this morning,it was 47 degrees when I woke up
this morning, I was like,you know, I want to go
back to bed.
I mean, you know,
just 7 (22:26):
00 I'm driving to the gym, going on free
to do that.
You know, once I got there,what you walk through the door
of the gym, you might as wellgo at it 110% because
you're paying for it.
One, two, you're there.
Do it.
Don't waste your time.
And but Arnold always said,if there are days
you go to the gym and you don'tfeel right, you don't feel like
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you want to do it or somethingas well, walk out
because those are the daysyou get injured.
Those are the days you mess upand get injured.
So I try to concentrate.
I drink or pre-workoutsomething like a monster drink.
The sugar free monster drinks.
I drink it.
Pre-workout out.
Or is one called C4 or there'sanother one called red light.
And you know, basicallypeople call them heart attacks
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in a can, but but it gets megoing.
I get the jab and I putmy music on.
It's funny because backin the old days before Earpods
or anything, they actuallyhad a radio with speakers
at the gym and people used toactually talk to each other
and have, you know,conversations and you worked out
groups.
Now everybody's walking withyour pads on,
look at their phone.
They're everybody'son their own.
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Little planetwas like, you know, they say
there's night players.
When you go to a gym, there'sa thousand planets
because everybody'son their own.
You know, I put my your apologyand I try not to
talk to anybody.
I just focus,get in and get out.
Well, as you get older,you change a lot.
Your train of thought changesall the time in our
in every aspect lately.
So I'm so glad you mentionedyour son.
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I know you're so proud ofCan at the end of his career
and where he's dying and it'sgreat to hear that,
you know, he's working outand keeping himself
help singing. Yeah.
So do you guys top a lotto each other
about your workoutsand how you're doing the sets?
That's great.
That had influencewith your father?
Yeah, He's a little bitmore crazy than I am because he.
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He has a scale.
He weighs every meal.
He count It does.
It has an app on his phone.
He counts the calories,is at his weight, everything.
And I'm like, Just give methe sandwich.
Only either for God's sake know.
I mean, but he's way too.
What?
He put it in there.
But with that being said,he's also you know, he was
a combat Marine in Afghanistan,so he was a Marines
for five years.
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He got out.
He graduated Embry-RiddleAeronautical University,
and they thought Beach got hisdegree there.
And now he's trying to go backin the Air Force to fly
for the Air Force.
So now he's trying to keep hisweight maintained
because there is a heightweight restriction,
and basically he's too big,too big to go in now.
So it's a long process when theywhen they start losing
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weight, well, he'llgo on a severe diet and do it.
It's all discipline.
That's what it is.
It's everything, pretty mucheverything in life.
But especially when it comesto working out, it's discipline
is the operative word.
You have to have discipline.
You know, if you don'thave discipline in life,
then anything could happen.
Then you have anarchy, alldirty, learned and
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how old were youwhen you went into
the service again?
The first time I wentin the Air Force, six days
after my 18th birthday, and thenthe Navy, I went in.
I was 26.
And your son was followingin your footsteps.
Not not saying the branchof service, but doing the same
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sort of thing.
After eight years of the Navywas 20 years as a firefighter.
EMT So and working with your sonin the same department?
Yeah, that freaked me outbecause I was in the
hospital room when he was bornand now he's working on the work
will be at the fire station.
That's you talk aboutfeeling old.
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That's when youstart feeling old.
Yeah.
If you look at that, whenthat you didn't really feel old,
otherwise you wouldn'tbe there right now.
No, no, no.
I think those guys mademe feel young.
You know what I mean?
I was one.
The older guys there,you've find your room
with younger people.
It does make you feel younger.
Race. Yeah.
Especially working.
You're better shape the Muslims.
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Yep.
So true.
All these guys for thepolice department.
For the fire department.
It's like you'vegot to go through
so much training to passtheir physicals.
I became a personal trainerwhen on just before my son
went into the fire department.
And, you know, one of thethings I wanted to do
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was get involved with thefire department.
It's like you haveto go through so much to join.
Why aren't there rules aboutstaying healthy?
I you're not.
You're supposed to bein a lot of lives, you know?
Right.
That's the main thing.
You have to be in good shapeto yank somebody out
of the building.
Or if you're a police officer,run a criminal down.
As a firefighter, you know,one of your fellow firefighters
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goes down in a building.
He's got 40,£60 a year on him.
And if he's a £200 man nowyou're talking a lot of weight.
That pretty muchif he's past that, you've got to
drag him out.
You have to be in shape to dothat.
You'd better be in shapeto do that stuff that happened.
You're going to feel guiltyfor the rest of your life
if you couldn't help himbecause you're sucking down
your air tight in 10 minutes.
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Really unfortunatethat the cities and all
the other fire departments,the private ones, the volunteer
ones, that they don't haveany kind of tactical
training to keep everybody safe,that really not
every fire stationhas got a full gym.
Every fire station, like I said,you have to want to do it.
You can't no matter whatyou say, no matter
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how you preach,the person's got to
want to do it.
And if they don't want to do it,they won't do it.
Others I've talked guysto go to the gym all day.
I'll go with you.
And they go for a day or twoand then they don't.
You don't see them anymore.
Or when they're with you,they're looking at the phone,
they're talking to other people.
The secret to working outis really it's not a secret, but
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it's consistency.
You have to be consistent.
It's got to be part ofyour lifestyle.
Like I said, like youbrush your teeth every morning,
you got to you got to dosome kind of physical
exercise every day.
Didn't have to worry about thisa thousand years ago
because your physical exercisewas just staying
alive, surviving.
Now you got thecomforts of home, you got
all the TVs, you turninto a marsh ball, it's up
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to the individual.
Absolutely.
You said a little bitabout fishing.
So the fishing, you're okay.
People say, what does that haveto do with health and fitness?
So I look at it as happiness.
Okay.
It's part of health.
Okay.
And being happy, enjoying lifeand what you do.
And I know how much of an avidfisherman you are, even though
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you don't eat fish, you fromout there.
But the fish that weget are usually I usually fish
for big game fishlike big tarpon, big sailfish
marlin, big duck.
And I'm happiest when I'm onthe water.
It's so much nicerto be underwater
looking at the land than beingon the land, looking at
the water.
That's my happy place.
Everybody has tofind a happy place.
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No, people go fishingcan be so boring, you know,
Some days, some days you're notcatching the fish, but you're
still on the water.
You still out that sunshineand you still
looking back at Lee and watchingall the little ants running back
and forth to the cars going by.
And I'm you know, you're onthat water, but it's a
happy place and everybody'sgot their own different
happy place.
Some people out of theirhappy places, a library.
It depends.
But that happens.
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Do what?
I like it.
Since I live practicallyunderwater, I might as well
like fishing and body.
Yeah, we had a boat.
Almost all of our memories.
Like man Billy down.
I need to say a dayout on the water was like
a week's vacation.
You just come back and your mindis just in another place.
Especially back when youcouldn't even have.
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There were no cell phones,so nobody was making
phone calls.
Nobody was calling you.
And you weren't on your phonelooking things up.
You were out therein Galveston and and being out
on the ocean and eitherwith your family or friends,
whoever you're with, you mentioncell phones.
I mean, look, we all use them.
They're all part of our livesnow.
They're actually almostanother appendage on our body
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because we always have itin our hand.
But it actually wasa cell phone.
This could be poisoned.
It really could, because itjust removes you from everything
else.
And you're on social mediaand you don't know what's true.
It's fake.
I don't think it's healthyfor you, for your mind.
It's not.
It's a great tool.
I wish I had one in college.
I mean, you couldlook up anything on Google
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and you'll find the answerto anything you want,
but it's a tool and we'vetaken that tool too far.
It's now it's part of ourI don't know if it's the
next step in evolution.
I don't know.
It could be, but we try towhen I finish with my friends,
we try to turn our cellphones off, you know, go to work
all the time.
But we try.
You try it.
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Yeah.
So my daughter Cindy grew upknowing you.
Okay?
See, her issue was thatwe talked a little bit
more about fishing.
So fishing just doesn't,you know, just don't
go out on the water and youthrow a line out to catch
something fun.
All the planning that goesinto a fishing tRick,
depending on what you're goingfishing for that next morning.
(31:19):
Let's talk a little bitabout that, about all the
the banning for fishingand getting out there and trying
and do your best and thenthe satisfaction.
Yeah, well, this is for Cindy.
Listen, it's sometimes I wishI was when I was younger
I didn't know muchabout fishing.
I would just gonow I think I know too much.
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Because you're worriedabout moon.
The moon phases and tidesand currents and winds.
Back when I was younger,you just go you caught some fun
and you didn't, you know.
But now when you gofor the bigger fish,
I happen to live in a greatfishing area because I live
almost under in theriver lagoon.
And there's Hutchinson Islandthat separates the ocean from in
Interval Lagoon, which is theentire lagoon is basically
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the Intercoastal Waterway,but we still have mangroves.
There's not buildingseverywhere here.
Depends on what you want.
I mean, I fish are big tarponin the river, which we call,
which is the inner.
You got to know howto catch the bait.
We net our baitand you got to know where the
vicious swimming.
And and then when you gofor sailfish where I lived, it's
considered selfish capital ofthe world.
I guess Stuart Grahamgave themselves that title.
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But I'll tell you whatthe catch myself or Tarpon
is one of the mostexciting things a fisherman
could catch because they jumpand they jump and they're
big and strong and they'rejust beasts.
And when you when you get anext to the boat, you
take the picture and werelease them.
I release pretty mucheverything.
If I catch Mahi, I won't releasethat long because my wife
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will kill me.
I don't do much bottom fishinglike for grouper.
Ernest Kite fishing.
We put a bait out with a kite.
I'm Billy used to do thatwith kites.
I believe in cheekto beat on the on the top
and that stRicked to meThe strike is the most It's
not fighting the fish.
It's the most exhilarating iswhen you're waiting.
You're waiting.
You're waiting.
And that strike happens.
And for one second your heartactually stops because you stop
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breathing, you know?
And then the fight is, you know,I mean, but like you
have to know tides.
Tides are very important.
Very important because you couldif you could fish a moving tide.
And and as soon as thattide stops, it goes
the slack tide for about a halfan hour with the tides changes
every 6 hours.
It's amazing.
The fish just shut offlike something, turn the light
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switch off, and then oncethe tide starts moving again,
they'll pick up.
I learned that down in Turkey,those fishing for pregnant with
a friend of mine and we werecatching permit big ones,
you know, 30 pounders.
And it just stopped.
Just stopped.
And I said, what happened?
They leave?
No, they thoughtthe tide stopped.
Look, he said, wait a half hour.
So we get our lunch,half hour goes by,
(33:50):
you see the water start movingand like clockwork bull,
they hit they hit hard again.
So I don't know.
What do they want to know?
I mean, I the only wayI can show is take care of it
again.
Lower.
Yeah.
No, I wish you werewith us right now
because she would tell herlittle story about when her and
her dad went fishing one dayby themselves.
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I don't know if she evertold you this when they both
they had more than one line outand they were out
for sale first.
They both got a sailfishat the same time.
Then wouldn't you know, a stormstarted coming their way.
Okay let's do sailfish onthey're trying and get the
sailfish up and you name alongit can take some time to go
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sailfish to the boat becausejumping out they're diving down
you know they'reall over the place and you just
gotta keep on reeling it outwhen you get serious.
And the storm was comingtowards them and the ocean
started getting rough.
It started rainingand oh my God, that girl,
she was young.
She thought she was goingto die then.
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And you know, Billy, you know,we can't let these
sailfish grow.
And so that helped thenut, right?
It finally decidesto cut his off, let it grow,
and try to help her get herselfin a sound.
And they did get it.
They got it on boardand thank God, home safely.
I think that wasin our little 70.
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But that ski out therelike the dulcimer.
Yeah, the ocean is very fickle.
It can change on you, especiallythe summertime.
You see those squalls comeand told you that it can be flat
as glass.
Within 2 minutesthe wind picks up
and you're like,you're heading home because this
this past summer, my friendsthat I have been in some
serious storms like, oh, that'syeah this is not looking good
(35:38):
when Wallsend it's it's brightand cloudy and it's Florida so
the weather changesit could be raining
100 yards away from your studywhere you are
but all of a sudden it changes.
So it could get dangerousout there.
But like I said, it's still myhappy place.
Matter what you know, it's it'sespecially not like Tarpon
are my favoritebecause basically Tarpon are
prehistoric fish.
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They're very old,but they're called a silver cane
for a reason.
When they hit, they hitlike they're going
to jail tomorrow and theyand they jump.
And when you see a £150 tarponfly out of the water, jump it in
front of you, it'sit just it's it's almost
spiritual feeling, you know whatI mean?
It's it's an amazing feeling.
So. So, yeah.
Sunny seas.
I posted really on Facebookwhile in pictures
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and she's alwayscommenting on it, you know so
but Cindy you have to be there.
Yeah.
To know.
Yeah.
It just takes experience.
It's hard to explain everythingyou learned through experience.
The more you go,the more you learn and you fish
with people that know stuff.
You always learn from somebody.
Something you did a lotas a child.
So she's probably only took in.
She wanted to tell you. Yeah.
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All right, Billy.
Billy was a big fish, but Buddyalways caught sailfish.
Oh.
Out on the boatalmost every week.
Yeah.
Yeah, right, Right, right.
But what that has to do withphysical fitness,
it's the mental fitnessthat you have to worry about
when it comes to that. It's.
It keeps you even keeled, keepsyou keep you with a positive
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attitude, I believewith energies, positive
and negative energies.
And like when you talkabout politics all the time
and that that's negative energythat that crap brings you down
because you know what?
You could talk about ituntil you turn purple.
Yeah, it's out of our pay grade.
There's nothing we could doabout it.
There's nothing, you know,there's nothing we could do
about you.
Republican, Democrat.
Those people are way above usin the pay grade.
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I believe this governmentis corrupted beyond words,
and there's nothingwe can do about.
So I'm at the point nowI'm not worried about it.
If it doesn't affect my friends,my family, and the street
I live on and it doesn't stopme from, Yeah, I
just can't worryabout it anymore, you know?
Let me let's know,ever at a point in politics
where you were listeningto the news all the time,
(37:44):
you know, getting upset and notletting it stress, you know.
Yeah, it's obsessed with it.
You know, listening toto this news station,
that news stationtalk to my friends on Facebook
about it all the time.
It got to the point where, likeby Dylan, the anguish
in your lap, Facebook,how many times.
Oh, yeah I just I got 304330 day suspensions
(38:07):
off of Facebook.
That's actually we figuredthat's 4043 months.
That's a couple of years there.
You know, I meanbut I don't care.
I mean, you know, Facebook,it's balanced the way it is.
Facebook is the job.
They kick you offfor any reason.
Now for Facebook.
You know, the truth is offensiveand facts are what they call
bullying.
You know, I call somebodya cream puff.
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One time they kickedme off for 30 days for that.
I mean, apparently theydon't like pastry, you know what
I mean?
I said, well, we live in aa world of illusion
right now. Nothing.
Nothing is realexcept your family.
And what you hold your handbecause you listen to the news.
They say whatever they wantyou to hear.
They say fake news.
This is real.
That's real.
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One guy said, oh, well,the economy is bright yellow guy
saying the economy's bad.
You know, Meanwhile, a box ofFrosted Flakes is 849 at the
grocery store, I was walking byhis manager, other diagonal, 849
where Frosted Flakes are used.
Three goes, yeah, yeah.
For the big box I gotTony to tell you he's not that
(39:08):
great anymore, you know.
I mean, you know, you knowwhat they say It's great.
Never.
849 It's not, you know, likeI said, the bottom line is
you can't be fake and all thesenegative things.
You can't let the negativityof the outside world
get into your head becauseit kills your morale
and it brings on depressionand depression as.
One of the biggest thingsthat'll stop you from
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working out because you don'twant to do anything when you're
depressed, you want tostay home, you sit around
and you're thinking too much,thinking Too much is not good.
I mean, it's still you have todown phone, stay off the phone
and stop being on social mediaevery 5 minutes.
You know what?
I'm guilty of it.
I'm guilty of it because Ilook at Instagram.
Well, you know,you look at Tik Tok and some of
(39:50):
the videos are interesting.
They're farting, you know, Butbut Facebook, they Facebook,
Facebook, to me was it wasit was a poison because
you're on it all the timeand you're always commenting
on some political.
I just don't care anymore.
It's the bottom line.
And I'm in a betterplace for fully.
Yeah.
Need to keep you happy.
So stay away from that crap.
(40:10):
All right, Rick.
So I want to ask you about goalsfor our listeners.
I like for you to give thema goal to reach.
And how would they get there?
Delivered better life.
Oh, okay.
Don't go.
Be on the spot too much.
Okay, people, listen to me.
You'll be fine.
You know what, though?
(40:31):
The bottom line ispeople get to do what they do
to make themselves happy.
Nobody can tell youhow you're going to be happy.
But if you're unhappy withthe way you look,
if you're unhappy with the wayyou feel that have to
to make a decision to dosomething about it, your biggest
competitor is staringright back at you
(40:52):
in that mirror.
That's the person you have toworry about the most.
Don't worry about whatpeople think about you.
Don't worry about whatpeople care about you because
they're not paying your bills.
So the hell with them.
Look in the mirror.
That's the personthat's going to make you happy.
So if you have a goal,if you say, okay, okay, New
Year's is coming up, people makethe you know, they make their
what they call their longresult or new.
(41:16):
Right?
So promise yourselfto do something.
If you feel likegoing to McDonald's and you go
to McDonald's a lot, don'tgo to McDonald's.
Just have discipline.
You're a strong personif you smoke Cigarets.
Now, I know nicotine isvery addictive,
but you got to say to yourself,I'm a strong I have a brain.
That little thing,that little piece of rolled
(41:38):
tobacco in a box is calling meand I'm not going to listen.
Or that chocolate cakeis calling me.
I'm not going to listen becauseI'm going to change.
And guess what?
If the bottom line,if you make a goal for yourself
and you don't accomplishthat goal and the bottom
line is you didn'ttry hard enough no matter what,
because if you want somethingbad enough, you will find
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a way to do it.
You will do it if you wantit better.
If you don't accomplish it,you want to better.
And that's okay too.
But just don't blame anybodybut yourself because dieting
is tough.
But it's not hard.
Just don't eat it.
Stay away from the sugars,lower your carbohydrates
up your protein, and even ifyou have to go outside and walk
(42:24):
around your yardfor an hour, do it.
You have to keep moving.
You will lose weight, you willaccomplish it.
And it may take a month or so.
But when you seethe difference that
when you get cite and say,wow, it's worth it, and that's
when you push yourself moreand more and more and more.
And that's the that's what it isand that's how you do it.
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That's the goal.
You know, get your mind,get your mind free of any
crap around you.
And while you're working out,don't think of anything else
but working out becauseit will drag you down.
Look like it's hard enough.
It could be an anchor, it couldpull you down for that hour.
You're working out in the gym.
Whatever.
2 hours, walk around your yard,clear your mind and think about,
(43:06):
I am doing this for me and I'mgoing to look good
the next year.
People won't recognize You'renot just that's straight
and that's it, like I said.
And if you don't do it,that's okay too.
But you got to want to do itand you can't do it half that.
You know you can't you can't goto the gym and,
you know, do a set and look,it's your fault for 20 minutes
to do another SAT.
No, put the phone away.
(43:26):
Put your music on.
But the music on thatthat satisfies you no matter
what it is to get you motivatedwith your music on
and get in the frame of mindwhere you're going to go.
Take a minute between sets,do a set, sit down,
take a minute.
That minute'sup, do another set.
Trust me, you'll be in that gymand your body will
thank you for it.
Nothing feels worse than havinga bad workout back was crappy.
(43:49):
But then you will go back again.
And that's what people don't.
Don't understand that.
I wish at this pointthis episode could be video
because I love the determinationin your face as you are saying.
No, that that was great.
And I also wish the listenerscould see you well.
Thank you.
Man.
Bowling, you are a helping.
(44:12):
I saw all your but yeah, yeah.
I mean, nothing is worsethan getting sick.
Being sick is the absolute worstthat we could've been fed.
A lot of sicknesses by,by keeping our our health
gut health.
Take probiotics.
Everybody should betaking probiotics
because everythingstarts in the gut.
Take your vitamins.
When Colbert came out,you notice the government.
(44:32):
All they did was push vaccines.
Nobody ever mentionsabout nutrition or vitamin
supplements, zinc,vitamin D3, B12, or B-COMPLEX.
Any imagery that doyour own research.
Don't trust what you hear.
Do your own research on howto stay healthy.
And when you have a cell phonewith Google, you have the world
(44:54):
at your fingertips.
There's nothing you can'tlook up that you will
find on Google, especially whenit comes to nutrition
and health.
It's up to the person.
Now, I know people worked a lot.
Today's economy,people work a lot.
They come home.
They're tired.
Last thing I want to do is gowork out.
It goes back to howbad you want it.
How bad do you want it?
We come home and you gotan hour.
Get an hour to try.
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Don't make, make leave.
That's one more hour workthat you had to do.
You had to do it.
If you had to do it,you would do it yourself
after you do it because it makesyou feel great, right?
You'll feel so much betteronce you start in a program
that you'll be addicted toor that you will want to stop.
And that's thebest thing for you right there,
not wanting to stop.
So I was going to end this,but if you had a
(45:35):
few more minutes,I'd like to hear you say
a little bit moreabout that helps.
You said how important guthealth steps, right?
Well, everythingstarts in your gut
and probiotics are the oppositeof what you take for a sickness,
which is antibiotics.
Antibiotics are good.
They kill the germs.
They kill whateverwith getting sick.
(45:55):
But the problem is they killeverything.
And probiotics are billions,literally billions that are a
little capsule of good nutrientsin your body.
And they start with gut health.
Everything startsin your stomach, in your gut,
in your intestines.
Your whole health systemstarts there.
When you take probiotics,it keeps it strong.
I take of as little soldierswhen I go down there
(46:15):
and fight it off anyanything bad on my stomach
because I have a very sensitive,very sensitive gut.
If I eat somethinga little bit spicy,
it bothers me.
And I take my probiotics.
I think each pill has likea billion active cultures in it.
I mean, probiotics are foundin yogurts, plain yogurt.
I mean, a few eat like thesesome of these yogurts that claim
to have it.
And if they're pasteurized,they're pretty much they killed
(46:38):
the probioticsjust go to a health food store
and the best probioticsare found in a refrigerator
during a refrigerated section.
You got to keep it refrigeratedbecause these are large.
These are live little creatures.
They're live microbiotacreatures.
They have to be alive to work.
So I take two pillsa day in the back to start
to keep you healthy.
I mean, that's that's a routinethat I always I always do.
(47:00):
Because the gut healthlike I said, everything starts
in the gut.
All diseases, sicknessesstart with nutrition.
You have to eat welland you have to keep your
intestines healthy.
Yeah.
Did you start taking probioticswhen you started working out
or you're skinny?
No, I'm taking a probioticsjust the past maybe three years,
(47:20):
because I didn't really I didn'treally know too much about it.
I mean, I heard about it,but I start doing more reading
about it and.
Actually, my wife pushed meon that because my wife
got her degree as a physician'sassistant, so she would
tell me about it,take probiotics, and then I
started doing it.
And it preventscolds and prevents
stomach aches.
It prevents gas, it prevents,you know, diarrhea, prevents
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it helps prevent all that stuff.
It's not a cure all,but it's just one more thing to
keep you healthy.
So I put an additivein your gas tank
to make your engine run better.
Bottom line.
Well, thanks for sharingthat information against us.
So is there anything in 2020or for a dictator that it's down
that it approaches healthand happiness?
I'm retired.
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Every day is a weekend for me.
So, I mean, you know,I live day by day right now.
You know, we play because of thetRick plan.
My my wife's parents aremy wife's mother lives
in Finland.
So we're going to go see her.
Go to Finland.
That's a that'sa beautiful place.
But so maybe somemore traveling, maybe
doing fishing.
Yeah, Seeing a little moretrout over.
Not better in India.
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Yeah.
Yeah, right.
So I.
Yeah, but as soon as thiswind dies down, it's
been very windy.
So nobody, nobody is out thereright now.
It's been pretty rough, but only24 hours.
Who knows.
You know, it's who knowsthe state of the country
is going to be this year.
Who knows?
You know, I mean, everything'sdifferent than it was
when we were kids.
Yeah, who knows?
Yeah.
So when you travel,you work out?
(48:44):
Yes.
I find the joke somewhere.
When I was in Desert Storm,the first Gulf War,
we went to Bahrainand they told us,
you're not allowedto wear tank tops because you
know, it's it's a muslim.
But Bahrain is pretty,pretty liberal.
So I'm one of the onlyMuslim countries
that serve alcohol.
So, you know, we got to stayin the Hilton because
there wasn't a base there.
We were using the the NationalAirport as a runway.
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And the first day I got there,I put a tank top on it
and I looked out the little,little lounge down there, and
there was a Filipino bandplaying Pink Floyd as two guys
that were from Saudi Arabiaand the full headdress
that was sitting next to me.
And I thought I was I thoughtI took some kind of
hallucinogenic joke.
I go, Where the hell am I?
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So they have a lot of majorhotels there.
So I just wentfrom hotel to hotel
and used their gym.
You can always find somewherework out.
And even if you can't finda gym, walk, run, do something.
You know they do.
If I swim in a pool swimming,swimming's great.
You know.
So like I said,I'll say it again.
I said it a million times.
It's just a matter of how badyou want it.
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You'll find something.
Well, thank you so much forbeing on the show.
It's just fun.
Well, thank you for inviting meas it was. Was fun.
I haven't spoken to youin a long time.
I miss you.
We got to get together.
Absolutely.
Thank you.
This is Angela Grayson from theLoving Life Fitness Podcast.
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To help others in their fitnessjourney.
It’s all possible! It’s timeto wake up.
Here we go.
This is Angela Grayson fromthe Loving Life Fitness Podcast.
To help others in their fitnessjourney.
It's all possible! It’s timeto wake up.
(00:35):
Here we go.
Hello, everyone.
This is Angela Grayson from theLoving Life Fitness Podcast,
where we talk to professionaland everyday people
just like you about how to livea better life through health
and fitness.
And today on the show,we have with us a very good
(00:55):
friend, Rick DeTata,that I've known almost my
whole life.
He was best friendof my husband's way back
when 1976 we met?
Oh my gosh a long time ago.
Hey, Rick, How ya doin?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm honoredthat she said yes.
(01:15):
I'll be on my show because Rickis one of the most
avid people I knowabout staying fit and healthy
throughout his entire life.
I'm not scared to say I'm 63and I have.
But you guys never know thatRick was the age that he is.
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So, Rick, let's stow awayanything about to you.
Even before I met here.
What kind of a kid were youand why didn't you get involved
so much in helping then us?
Well, actually, it was my fatherwho pushed me into it because
my father was likehe was a mixture of half
Tony Soprano and halfArchie Bunker.
(01:56):
So typical New Jersey Italian.
He was always preachingabout fitness as he smoked
his camel Cigarets.
But before my brother and Icould go out to play in
the summertime and this isin the sixties
before pretty muchfitness was a fad, but there was
Jack LaLanne back in those daysof people remember that
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he would make us do100 pushups and 300
sit ups every day beforewe could go out and play
while he'd be old breath like,you know, with a cigaret
in his mouth doing,you know, one, two count.
So he would do that, have to dothat every day.
And then he was pretty strictabout that.
And then so that started that.
But as time went on, I sproutedup, I got taller, but I was
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so skinny.
I was just so self-consciousabout being skinny.
I mean, becauseI loved girls and,
you know, I wasI used to look at bodybuilding
magazines and I mean, I waswhen I say skinny, I mean,
people used to call me olderone day, want to be alone.
That's how skinny I was.
Generation, you know.
So I was I do a lot of reading,but then did a lot of surfing
(03:00):
and didn't do any working outreally through high school.
But right after high school,your husband Billy and I went in
the Air Force and we happenedto be stationed up
in the mountains of Germany.
We took a bus ride upthis mountain was just going up
and up and up and up, andit was a building there.
I said, Was this thebus station?
(03:20):
The driver said, No,this is your base.
Get out.
It was a small, tiny baseand it wasn't much there,
but there was a gym there.
And so both he and Idecided that we're going to
start working outevery single day.
And it started thereand it's continued
48 years later for myself.
(03:40):
You know, I just I just reallynever stopped because I
saw progress within a yearI went home.
I mean, I went in at £130and I went home a year
later on leave at 160,and my arms were four
inches bigger, which isthat's like saying
the thread grew, you know,from dental floss to a piece
of string.
(04:00):
But it was still noticeable.
My parents noticed this.
I got off the plane.
They were like, you know,and I like that feeling.
You know, people arerealize that working out
physical fitness is a great egomotivator and ego is a great
motivation because everybodywants to look good
about themselves.
You know, people go, Oh,why do you do that
for your health?
They go, Yeah,that's part of it.
(04:21):
You know, I like to look good,you know, to be that.
And people do it.
And anybody in the gymwho tells you that's not
about ego, they're like,You know what I mean?
Because it is.
So I started working outback then.
We got out of the Air Force,and then when I got out,
I continued.
I joined a gym and actuallyI actually became manager
of that jet.
So then it started from there.
(04:42):
Then I got bigger and biggerand I think my high
school reunion, my 10th year,I got voted most change
because I graduated at 120and went back A220 and I
did some competitions andit was fun.
But then from then on I justI just kept going on
and on and on and, and,and the thing about the thing
about working out isif you want to
(05:04):
stay with it, it'sgot to become part
of a lifestyle for you.
Just like getting upand brushing your teeth
or the lifestyleyou know, you do it and people
say, Well, I don't have time.
If you have an hour to dayto watch television,
you have an houra day to work out.
But the thing about working outis and any exercise,
anything in life, you have towant to do it.
You have to want to do it.
(05:25):
And if you don't want to do it,there's not anybody in
the world to them say to makeyou want to do it if you don't
want to.
So that's how it started for me.
Now, I remember when I metmy husband, you guys were
working out in your garage spacecoming back out, and you're
a believer in there, the garageworking out.
Your little brotherSteve sometimes was out there.
(05:46):
And that's when I got to knowyour mom and dad, too,
with great family.
But how great is it to havea good friend that you
could start working out withand continue?
And you guys were opposites.
You were a skinny kid trying toget bigger and he was the
heavier kid trying toget stronger and have more
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body composition.
And when I met you guys,you were both in great shape.
You know, I was like, Wow, thatthese guys.
Cause I fell in love, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, we played offof each other.
He was trying to lose weightand get bigger, and I was trying
to gain weight, get bigger.
So we played off of each other.
And every time we went tothe beach or Billy would
(06:26):
say, Well, we can't go.
We can't go to the beach.
We got to do push upsin a parking lot
first to pump up,but we couldn't.
So to this day, every timeI go to a beach, I look at the
parking lot, you know, I laughbecause we actually got down
in the parking lot, did pushthe pump up, and we weren't
really that big back there.
You know what I mean?
I think I was like £160at that particular time.
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You know, we're just not biglike I said, it gets in your DNA
and it stays there.
And and that's how it ends upuntil you're 66 years
old, like being still doing itevery single day, which I just
just came back to the gym beforethis podcast.
I mean, I was there for an hourand a half, you know, I mean,
and it's what I do.
But he you said that you werein competition.
(07:08):
I didn't even know that.
What part of your life was that?
That must have been only kind ofdrifted off on separate
directions for a while.
Somebody Not thatthat was in the early eighties.
I dabbled in it.
I worked out at a gymcalled the Polo Gym
in Fort Lauderdale.
It was pretty much strictlya bodybuilding gym competition.
Bodybuilding gym hardcore.
Not like today, not likewhere you go to the gym today,
(07:29):
where you got somebodyfollowing you, wiping down
the machines and moppingbehind you.
And it's almost a sterileenvironment.
Now, this was a hardcorebodybuilding gym chalked on
the floor and and equipmentand but with the guys
there were hardcorededicated guys, you know,
I mean then competitionwas bonded.
The hard part about bodybuildingcompetition is the dieting,
(07:51):
because you want to tryto get up on that stage
about 2% body fat and it'sit's really talk I mean you're
sucking on ice cubesthat into the fish out of the
can the last three daysbefore the competition
I never made it big in thatbut it was fun.
It was fun to compete there.
It was it was interesting,you know, And you what you're
in that group of people.
You kind of you kind ofyou got to stay
with those peoplebecause they're your friends
(08:11):
and they understandthe struggles of working out
and competing and dietingand dieting is the worse.
It's absolutely worse,if you like, to eat.
I mean, like I said, tuna fishout of the can walking down
with water, you know, it'sand now today, dieting is a
total science.
I mean, it's so muchdifferent back from the
early eighties, that was whatI didn't stick or die.
(08:32):
I did a little benchpress contest and
stuff like that.
But mostly the bottomI worked out just to look good
and feel good and, you know,strut on the beach and that's
what we did.
You know, we'd goas a group of guys
in the eighties, just go toHollywood Beach and put our
blankets down and look at thegirls, you know?
I mean, that's what it was,you know, a little bit
more about competition.
And, you know, MichelleMelody's daughter, Melody,
(08:56):
for everybody, just aquick little.
So, you know, is my husbandand sister and her
daughter, Richelle.
She tried to get intocompetition.
One time and she wasreally big into working out and,
oh, my gosh, like you said ofthe dieterbohn, if you don't
have a coach, it's like somuch information that you
(09:18):
need to know.
You're training for apretty long time to go in
competition and the dayof the competition, what you're
on that stage andyour carbohydrates
are down to zero,you're dehydrated, you're not
very healthy when you'reon that stage and you're posing
and cramping up and stuff.
So, I mean, it could be it couldget dangerous.
I had a friend of minewon a competition, and the night
(09:41):
of the competitionis Father's room.
The big party there werevery Italian and Italian
restaurant.
We had a big party with lasagnaand pizza, and he was eating
like crazy.
But yeah, but the problem wasit was also dehydrated time.
The next morning, he woke upwith severe edema.
He gave like£40 overnight.
So he had to go to the hospitaland they had to give them
all kind of Lasix to drain them.
(10:01):
And his ankle swelled up,his deck swelled up.
So it could be dangerous.
It could be very dangerous.
Yeah.
Really, They're goingto need more get a get a trainer
who really knowswhat they're doing.
Right.
Right now at this age,the competition is just looking
in the mirror every day.
And it hope that I lookbetter than I did
the day before.
Right now, you competing,get yourself as you get older,
(10:22):
you start competingagainst yourself, especially as
you get a career.
You get less time.
And during those daysI was a bartender and a bouncer
in Hollywood, in Fort LauderdaleBeach.
And, you know, you hadyour work tonight.
You had the whole day off.
You had nothing to dobut work out.
But now you know what?
You get a career and you'removing on and you're
kind of drift offfrom that stuff.
You know, just work outjust to feel good and look good.
(10:43):
Yeah.
And okay, so let's talka little bit backwards top about
the insecuritiesof being skinny.
I just did a recording withsomebody else the other day
who most of her life aftershe had her two children,
she was so skinnyand had no shape to her,
just the way her body was.
And she talked about howhard it was because
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not only tan peoplebeing mean to those
who are overweight, but peoplecan be mean to those
who are underweightor her own family telling her
you need to eat more.
And she was she was eatinglike 4000 calories a day.
But the her digestive system waslike crazy and it was just
going right through her.
Did you ever experienceanything like that?
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See, I was never eater.
That was my problem.
I just didn't like to eat.
To this day, I'm not an either.
I'm not a foodie.
I eat to live.
I don't live to eat like somepeople do.
You don't. I mean.
I mean, I'm good with a proteinshake and, you know, and the
chicken breast and the saladand I'm good.
My treat is a pizza.
Once every three weeks I havetwo or three slices of that.
And I'm done.
So I was so scaredbecause I used to come from
(11:47):
an Italian family,which my mother cooked
all the time.
My father used to get worried.
He goes, Well,why don't just get
one of the skinny?
Yeah, she bought meprotein powder back in the
early seventies to gain weight,but the protein powder back then
was literally you had to put itin a cement mixer
and it literally, if you didn'tswallow hard in your mouth
and it's not like the proteinsthey have today, which dissolves
(12:09):
immediately in the shakerand they taste great.
They they taste like alike dirt drink.
Yes. Yeah.
And not, you know, and I wasn'tgaining weight no matter what.
But the only reason why I mean,when I went to Air Force,
I only made the Air Force by £1for my height because I have
the light weight restrictions.
I only made it by £1.
And because the summer we wentin, I was eating eaten bananas
(12:31):
and peanut butter and anythingI could get my hands on again,
a little bit of weight.
You become very self-consciouswhen you're not happy
with your body.
You're very self-conscious.
I mean, I used to goto the beach with a shirt on.
Like I said, I would look atbodybuilding magazines and
especially backin the early days when Arnold
Schwarzenegger came out in 1975,the movie Pumping Iron came out,
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which pretty much kicked offthe whole bodybuilding
explosion.
Look at that.
And you all look in the mirror.
And I had long brown hair.
I looked like a dirty mop,you know, I felt so I had a
pirate's dream.
I had a sucking chest, you know.
But then what you decideor once I decided that I was
no longer going to look likethis anymore, that's when
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like I said, in Germany,when we got to there and it was
very small based,it was a much ado.
I basically lived in that gym.
I ate well.
I started reading abouteating protein and everything,
and my body kind of explodedthat year and I haven't
stopped since.
Well, I've beenthe same weight now for years
because I don't wantto get any bigger
or any smaller.
So I just maintain my weightright now.
(13:35):
I mean, I'm 25.
I've been to five, 20 year.
Yeah.
So tell us about what you doeat on a daily basis.
The pretty first thing I dowhen I get up in the morning,
I drink eight ounces of waterbecause you have to replenish
your water.
It's good for your organs, it'sgood for your skin.
So I drink that and then I'mwhat I'll do.
I'll have a bowl of oatmealor a bowl of rice with a
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protein drink, which isthe protein about 48 to 50
grams of protein.
And then I'll go to the gymand then I'll workout,
do my workout, I'll come home,and then I'll have
usually three eggs like sunnyside up or scrambled or even
hard boiled, and then with maybesome more oatmeal or rice.
The afternoons consist of likea gross of chicken breast
(14:19):
or a piece of meat, and thenmid afternoon is another protein
drink and and dinner is usuallyon a steak.
I'll get a piece of nice steakgrilled back or, or fish.
I don't like fish.
I don't, I don't like fish.
And I people say thatHow could you be a fish?
Better not like fish.
I fish with a sport, not a food.
There are some fishnow that I prefer, like flounder
(14:41):
or mahi or grouper.
But other than that, I'mjust not a fish person.
So the fish that I do eat,I fall down, you know,
that's about it by that'smy daily intake.
You know what I mean?
I'm £205, so I try to take inthat many grams of protein
a day, at least 205grams of protein per day.
And I do thatthrough supplements
with the protein drinkbecause like I said, the protein
drinks are good.
(15:01):
They taste like dirt,they taste like chocolate milk.
You know, you drink those downand nuts.
You got 50 grams of proteinwith admits.
That's my and then I'dlove sweets so I cheat
on the weekends.
Well, I'm not goingto be a slave to my body,
you know, I mean, backin the day when you compete
and you're younger and you wantto look the best
you possibly can,and when you're
in the bodybuilding or thefitness world, you are slaves
(15:23):
of your body.
Well, you know, you're not.
But you see, peoplewalking through the gym
in Tupperware is eating riceand green wine.
And I mean, I lookat those people today. I left.
Now I said, I'm so donewith that.
I'm not going to be slaves.
My body, I want to cheat.
If I want a job at the bar,I'm going to eat it.
But I also with that being said,I do a lot of cardio.
(15:43):
I ride my bike, I have a carbonfiber fitness bike.
I ride because we have a nicepath by my house,
which are asphalt baths.
It's four miles in eitherdirection, so I'll get on that
and I'll tie myself.
So I'll do anywherefrom 45 to 50 miles
a week on my bike.
These are not just pleasurerides.
These are getting my heartrate up to 160 and really moving
(16:05):
or and I and I switch mycardio around and then the day
is going to do my bike.
I'll use the treadmill to jam.
I'll do the treadmill for acouple of miles.
I'll put it on an incline soit works on my legs.
And I you know, I can't dosquats anymore.
Work with my knees are not whatthey used to be.
My leg workout consists ofa lot of leg presses, leg curls
on machines and my bike riding.
But then I'll switch it up.
(16:25):
I'll do the Stairmasterin a gym, which is a whole
different world.
When you do the Stairmaster.
The Stairmaster is differentthan any of the cardio because
it's like climbing stairsthat never end.
You know what I mean?
And your heart rate jumpsreally fast.
So I maintain a good heart rateand that's that's what keeps
my weight.
Even So, if I have a pizza,especially doing
a Christmas storyor a lot of candies
(16:47):
and fudge and and pastasand stuff, I'm not going to deny
myself that.
But the next dayI get to the gym.
I burn it off as much as I can.
Now, you know your meal planon the way and you have it
on most days of a week probablyyou're basically eating
five meals a day.
You might not be, you know, fivebig meals, but you're eating
five times a day.
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And that's keep that metabolismgoing, too.
So the cardio top weight eat,it is really helpful.
So what if you want a candy baror ice cream or whatever go for?
Right. Right.
I came after the Air Force.
I went to college.
I got out of college in 1986.
I wanted to be into navalaviation.
(17:32):
So I joined the Navyand I got to do naval aviation.
But it was just the oppositethis time.
When I went to the recruiter'soffice, I was to 40
and he says, Wow, I can't eventalk to you till you drop
down £35.
So that's summerbefore I went to aircrew school
or flight school.
Now you talk about eatingto fish out of the can.
(17:53):
I was just I was fastingtuna fish out of the can
and I did it.
I dropped out, I dropped £35.
But people think it'sit's really hard to lose weight.
It's not the best thing to doto lose weight.
Don't eat so much.
Stay away from sugars,sugars, sugar, poison.
Sugar is probably thebiggest drug in the
United States right nowbecause sugar is in everything.
(18:15):
You look at ketchup,it's got sugaring everything
that's sugar.
So if you if you want tolose weight, don't eat it.
I mean, not not to the pointwhere it's unhealthy.
But I believe in fasting.
I believe I've done intermittentfasting where you eat from
10 (18:30):
00 in the morning till maybe five at night.
Not another calorie
after 5 (18:37):
00
till 10 (18:38):
00.
The next morningyou'll drop weight,
you'll drop weight.
The only way you lose weightis taking in less calories
than you burn.
And the only way you gainweight is by taking
in more calories than you'reburning.
It's really not thatthat difficult.
It's not a hard equation.
You still where do youget your strength training
when you tried todrop the weight?
(18:58):
Yeah.
Yeah, I did.
I did.
But at this point, I do a lot.
I'm all about repetitions now.
I mean, the joints are startingto hurt a little bit
more as you get older fromall the years of
of pounding away.
It's, you know, it's justbut you got to remember, back
in the eighties when I was withmy friends, we would pick
a body part, the threelegs, we'd squat for 3 hours
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just squatting, go heavy, wrap,wrap our knees up
with the table.
We'd go up to £600 and comeall the way back down.
And our we pick a like chest.
We'd be on a bench press.
Just it was crazy.
You know, when you're younger,you're stupid.
I mean, and now for allthe other things, the problem is
you get the feel that, you know,the joints are starting to get
a little arthritic.
(19:41):
So my son works out.
My son's six one almost to 40.
He's a beast.
So he's like, Sowhat's your routine now, Dad?
I'm like, I go to the gym.
Whatever doesn't hurt thatparticular day.
That's the body part of work,you know what I mean?
So that's how it is now.
But I'm all aboutrepetitions now.
I don't I don't do the heavywith the four reps.
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I'm new to the 10th, 12, 15 repswhen I do my, my workouts now
you know.
Yeah.
And it saves your joints,you know, I mean I don't
push themselvesto the point where I'm in
a lot of pain where you can'tat this age.
I mean, I'm a four yearsfrom 70.
Think about it.
Think about your parentswhen they were 17.
I mean, I look I look atmy old aunts and uncles.
Well, they were 40.
They looked like they were 70,my friend.
(20:24):
That an airplane we fly inon Wednesdays and we
promised ourselves when we wereon our toes that if we ever
turn 40, we're goingto crash the plane
into the Evergladesbecause we want to live
past 40 year old.
You're an old man.
It's one of those secret thingsto work it out that people
that don't.
I'm not just talkingabout weights.
I'll talk about exerciseand physical fitness.
It's the fountain of youth.
It really slows downthe aging process.
(20:45):
You're not going to stop it.
Mother Nature is going totake over at one point,
but you really it really slowsyou down.
It really does.
And it's and because you'rebreaking down muscle, the brain
says, well, he's using that.
So what does he do?
The brain repairs that muscle.
And that's it'sa cycle breaks down
repair, break down repair.
And people who sit on the couchall day at night
(21:06):
and don't work outtheir body says, well,
he doesn't need that.
So there's no need to putthe nutrients there
or repair it.
So that's called aging.
That's why you see some peoplethat are overweight and they,
you know, how old are you?
You're like, like I'm 42.
You're like, wow, you know,Jesus.
You know, genetics playsa huge part in
don't get me wrong,genetics is huge.
(21:28):
My mother had anincredible genetics one when she
she passed away in her eightiesand she still did every wrinkle.
But genetics plays a part.
Laziness is very easy to acquireif you don't do it.
And at this point,the hardest part
about working out,the hardest part about going to
the gym is going to the gym.
Yes, getting a habit going,you know, or you might
(21:48):
be addicted to sittingon the couch.
And now that habit, I'm involvedevery day in sitting
on the couch or what's yourother choice?
Well, the thing about itnow is the days
I feel like I'm not I don'twant to work out.
I push myself to go.
But some days, if I don'twork out, I feel worse.
If I didn't work out,it's almost it's
almost the guilt.
They it's almost an obsession.
(22:10):
That might be an obsession or amental problem.
I don't know.
But it is what it is.
And.
But it doesn't matterbecause I like it.
Because it drives me.
It drives me to go to the gym,you know?
I mean, because if Iif I don't want to go
like this morning,it was 47 degrees when I woke up
this morning, I was like,you know, I want to go
back to bed.
I mean, you know,
just 7 (22:26):
00 I'm driving to the gym, going on free
to do that.
You know, once I got there,what you walk through the door
of the gym, you might as wellgo at it 110% because
you're paying for it.
One, two, you're there.
Do it.
Don't waste your time.
And but Arnold always said,if there are days
you go to the gym and you don'tfeel right, you don't feel like
(22:46):
you want to do it or somethingas well, walk out
because those are the daysyou get injured.
Those are the days you mess upand get injured.
So I try to concentrate.
I drink or pre-workoutsomething like a monster drink.
The sugar free monster drinks.
I drink it.
Pre-workout out.
Or is one called C4 or there'sanother one called red light.
And you know, basicallypeople call them heart attacks
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in a can, but but it gets megoing.
I get the jab and I putmy music on.
It's funny because backin the old days before Earpods
or anything, they actuallyhad a radio with speakers
at the gym and people used toactually talk to each other
and have, you know,conversations and you worked out
groups.
Now everybody's walking withyour pads on,
look at their phone.
They're everybody'son their own.
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Little planetwas like, you know, they say
there's night players.
When you go to a gym, there'sa thousand planets
because everybody'son their own.
You know, I put my your apologyand I try not to
talk to anybody.
I just focus,get in and get out.
Well, as you get older,you change a lot.
Your train of thought changesall the time in our
in every aspect lately.
So I'm so glad you mentionedyour son.
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I know you're so proud ofCan at the end of his career
and where he's dying and it'sgreat to hear that,
you know, he's working outand keeping himself
help singing. Yeah.
So do you guys top a lotto each other
about your workoutsand how you're doing the sets?
That's great.
That had influencewith your father?
Yeah, He's a little bitmore crazy than I am because he.
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He has a scale.
He weighs every meal.
He count It does.
It has an app on his phone.
He counts the calories,is at his weight, everything.
And I'm like, Just give methe sandwich.
Only either for God's sake know.
I mean, but he's way too.
What?
He put it in there.
But with that being said,he's also you know, he was
a combat Marine in Afghanistan,so he was a Marines
for five years.
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He got out.
He graduated Embry-RiddleAeronautical University,
and they thought Beach got hisdegree there.
And now he's trying to go backin the Air Force to fly
for the Air Force.
So now he's trying to keep hisweight maintained
because there is a heightweight restriction,
and basically he's too big,too big to go in now.
So it's a long process when theywhen they start losing
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weight, well, he'llgo on a severe diet and do it.
It's all discipline.
That's what it is.
It's everything, pretty mucheverything in life.
But especially when it comesto working out, it's discipline
is the operative word.
You have to have discipline.
You know, if you don'thave discipline in life,
then anything could happen.
Then you have anarchy, alldirty, learned and
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how old were youwhen you went into
the service again?
The first time I wentin the Air Force, six days
after my 18th birthday, and thenthe Navy, I went in.
I was 26.
And your son was followingin your footsteps.
Not not saying the branchof service, but doing the same
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sort of thing.
After eight years of the Navywas 20 years as a firefighter.
EMT So and working with your sonin the same department?
Yeah, that freaked me outbecause I was in the
hospital room when he was bornand now he's working on the work
will be at the fire station.
That's you talk aboutfeeling old.
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That's when youstart feeling old.
Yeah.
If you look at that, whenthat you didn't really feel old,
otherwise you wouldn'tbe there right now.
No, no, no.
I think those guys mademe feel young.
You know what I mean?
I was one.
The older guys there,you've find your room
with younger people.
It does make you feel younger.
Race. Yeah.
Especially working.
You're better shape the Muslims.
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Yep.
So true.
All these guys for thepolice department.
For the fire department.
It's like you'vegot to go through
so much training to passtheir physicals.
I became a personal trainerwhen on just before my son
went into the fire department.
And, you know, one of thethings I wanted to do
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was get involved with thefire department.
It's like you haveto go through so much to join.
Why aren't there rules aboutstaying healthy?
I you're not.
You're supposed to bein a lot of lives, you know?
Right.
That's the main thing.
You have to be in good shapeto yank somebody out
of the building.
Or if you're a police officer,run a criminal down.
As a firefighter, you know,one of your fellow firefighters
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goes down in a building.
He's got 40,£60 a year on him.
And if he's a £200 man nowyou're talking a lot of weight.
That pretty muchif he's past that, you've got to
drag him out.
You have to be in shape to dothat.
You'd better be in shapeto do that stuff that happened.
You're going to feel guiltyfor the rest of your life
if you couldn't help himbecause you're sucking down
your air tight in 10 minutes.
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Really unfortunatethat the cities and all
the other fire departments,the private ones, the volunteer
ones, that they don't haveany kind of tactical
training to keep everybody safe,that really not
every fire stationhas got a full gym.
Every fire station, like I said,you have to want to do it.
You can't no matter whatyou say, no matter
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how you preach,the person's got to
want to do it.
And if they don't want to do it,they won't do it.
Others I've talked guysto go to the gym all day.
I'll go with you.
And they go for a day or twoand then they don't.
You don't see them anymore.
Or when they're with you,they're looking at the phone,
they're talking to other people.
The secret to working outis really it's not a secret, but
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it's consistency.
You have to be consistent.
It's got to be part ofyour lifestyle.
Like I said, like youbrush your teeth every morning,
you got to you got to dosome kind of physical
exercise every day.
Didn't have to worry about thisa thousand years ago
because your physical exercisewas just staying
alive, surviving.
Now you got thecomforts of home, you got
all the TVs, you turninto a marsh ball, it's up
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to the individual.
Absolutely.
You said a little bitabout fishing.
So the fishing, you're okay.
People say, what does that haveto do with health and fitness?
So I look at it as happiness.
Okay.
It's part of health.
Okay.
And being happy, enjoying lifeand what you do.
And I know how much of an avidfisherman you are, even though
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you don't eat fish, you fromout there.
But the fish that weget are usually I usually fish
for big game fishlike big tarpon, big sailfish
marlin, big duck.
And I'm happiest when I'm onthe water.
It's so much nicerto be underwater
looking at the land than beingon the land, looking at
the water.
That's my happy place.
Everybody has tofind a happy place.
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No, people go fishingcan be so boring, you know,
Some days, some days you're notcatching the fish, but you're
still on the water.
You still out that sunshineand you still
looking back at Lee and watchingall the little ants running back
and forth to the cars going by.
And I'm you know, you're onthat water, but it's a
happy place and everybody'sgot their own different
happy place.
Some people out of theirhappy places, a library.
It depends.
But that happens.
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Do what?
I like it.
Since I live practicallyunderwater, I might as well
like fishing and body.
Yeah, we had a boat.
Almost all of our memories.
Like man Billy down.
I need to say a dayout on the water was like
a week's vacation.
You just come back and your mindis just in another place.
Especially back when youcouldn't even have.
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There were no cell phones,so nobody was making
phone calls.
Nobody was calling you.
And you weren't on your phonelooking things up.
You were out therein Galveston and and being out
on the ocean and eitherwith your family or friends,
whoever you're with, you mentioncell phones.
I mean, look, we all use them.
They're all part of our livesnow.
They're actually almostanother appendage on our body
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because we always have itin our hand.
But it actually wasa cell phone.
This could be poisoned.
It really could, because itjust removes you from everything
else.
And you're on social mediaand you don't know what's true.
It's fake.
I don't think it's healthyfor you, for your mind.
It's not.
It's a great tool.
I wish I had one in college.
I mean, you couldlook up anything on Google
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and you'll find the answerto anything you want,
but it's a tool and we'vetaken that tool too far.
It's now it's part of ourI don't know if it's the
next step in evolution.
I don't know.
It could be, but we try towhen I finish with my friends,
we try to turn our cellphones off, you know, go to work
all the time.
But we try.
You try it.
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Yeah.
So my daughter Cindy grew upknowing you.
Okay?
See, her issue was thatwe talked a little bit
more about fishing.
So fishing just doesn't,you know, just don't
go out on the water and youthrow a line out to catch
something fun.
All the planning that goesinto a fishing tRick,
depending on what you're goingfishing for that next morning.
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Let's talk a little bitabout that, about all the
the banning for fishingand getting out there and trying
and do your best and thenthe satisfaction.
Yeah, well, this is for Cindy.
Listen, it's sometimes I wishI was when I was younger
I didn't know muchabout fishing.
I would just gonow I think I know too much.
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Because you're worriedabout moon.
The moon phases and tidesand currents and winds.
Back when I was younger,you just go you caught some fun
and you didn't, you know.
But now when you gofor the bigger fish,
I happen to live in a greatfishing area because I live
almost under in theriver lagoon.
And there's Hutchinson Islandthat separates the ocean from in
Interval Lagoon, which is theentire lagoon is basically
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the Intercoastal Waterway,but we still have mangroves.
There's not buildingseverywhere here.
Depends on what you want.
I mean, I fish are big tarponin the river, which we call,
which is the inner.
You got to know howto catch the bait.
We net our baitand you got to know where the
vicious swimming.
And and then when you gofor sailfish where I lived, it's
considered selfish capital ofthe world.
I guess Stuart Grahamgave themselves that title.
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But I'll tell you whatthe catch myself or Tarpon
is one of the mostexciting things a fisherman
could catch because they jumpand they jump and they're
big and strong and they'rejust beasts.
And when you when you get anext to the boat, you
take the picture and werelease them.
I release pretty mucheverything.
If I catch Mahi, I won't releasethat long because my wife
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will kill me.
I don't do much bottom fishinglike for grouper.
Ernest Kite fishing.
We put a bait out with a kite.
I'm Billy used to do thatwith kites.
I believe in cheekto beat on the on the top
and that stRicked to meThe strike is the most It's
not fighting the fish.
It's the most exhilarating iswhen you're waiting.
You're waiting.
You're waiting.
And that strike happens.
And for one second your heartactually stops because you stop
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breathing, you know?
And then the fight is, you know,I mean, but like you
have to know tides.
Tides are very important.
Very important because you couldif you could fish a moving tide.
And and as soon as thattide stops, it goes
the slack tide for about a halfan hour with the tides changes
every 6 hours.
It's amazing.
The fish just shut offlike something, turn the light
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switch off, and then oncethe tide starts moving again,
they'll pick up.
I learned that down in Turkey,those fishing for pregnant with
a friend of mine and we werecatching permit big ones,
you know, 30 pounders.
And it just stopped.
Just stopped.
And I said, what happened?
They leave?
No, they thoughtthe tide stopped.
Look, he said, wait a half hour.
So we get our lunch,half hour goes by,
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you see the water start movingand like clockwork bull,
they hit they hit hard again.
So I don't know.
What do they want to know?
I mean, I the only wayI can show is take care of it
again.
Lower.
Yeah.
No, I wish you werewith us right now
because she would tell herlittle story about when her and
her dad went fishing one dayby themselves.
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I don't know if she evertold you this when they both
they had more than one line outand they were out
for sale first.
They both got a sailfishat the same time.
Then wouldn't you know, a stormstarted coming their way.
Okay let's do sailfish onthey're trying and get the
sailfish up and you name alongit can take some time to go
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sailfish to the boat becausejumping out they're diving down
you know they'reall over the place and you just
gotta keep on reeling it outwhen you get serious.
And the storm was comingtowards them and the ocean
started getting rough.
It started rainingand oh my God, that girl,
she was young.
She thought she was goingto die then.
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And you know, Billy, you know,we can't let these
sailfish grow.
And so that helped thenut, right?
It finally decidesto cut his off, let it grow,
and try to help her get herselfin a sound.
And they did get it.
They got it on boardand thank God, home safely.
I think that wasin our little 70.
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But that ski out therelike the dulcimer.
Yeah, the ocean is very fickle.
It can change on you, especiallythe summertime.
You see those squalls comeand told you that it can be flat
as glass.
Within 2 minutesthe wind picks up
and you're like,you're heading home because this
this past summer, my friendsthat I have been in some
serious storms like, oh, that'syeah this is not looking good
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when Wallsend it's it's brightand cloudy and it's Florida so
the weather changesit could be raining
100 yards away from your studywhere you are
but all of a sudden it changes.
So it could get dangerousout there.
But like I said, it's still myhappy place.
Matter what you know, it's it'sespecially not like Tarpon
are my favoritebecause basically Tarpon are
prehistoric fish.
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They're very old,but they're called a silver cane
for a reason.
When they hit, they hitlike they're going
to jail tomorrow and theyand they jump.
And when you see a £150 tarponfly out of the water, jump it in
front of you, it'sit just it's it's almost
spiritual feeling, you know whatI mean?
It's it's an amazing feeling.
So. So, yeah.
Sunny seas.
I posted really on Facebookwhile in pictures
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and she's alwayscommenting on it, you know so
but Cindy you have to be there.
Yeah.
To know.
Yeah.
It just takes experience.
It's hard to explain everythingyou learned through experience.
The more you go,the more you learn and you fish
with people that know stuff.
You always learn from somebody.
Something you did a lotas a child.
So she's probably only took in.
She wanted to tell you. Yeah.
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All right, Billy.
Billy was a big fish, but Buddyalways caught sailfish.
Oh.
Out on the boatalmost every week.
Yeah.
Yeah, right, Right, right.
But what that has to do withphysical fitness,
it's the mental fitnessthat you have to worry about
when it comes to that. It's.
It keeps you even keeled, keepsyou keep you with a positive
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attitude, I believewith energies, positive
and negative energies.
And like when you talkabout politics all the time
and that that's negative energythat that crap brings you down
because you know what?
You could talk about ituntil you turn purple.
Yeah, it's out of our pay grade.
There's nothing we could doabout it.
There's nothing, you know,there's nothing we could do
about you.
Republican, Democrat.
Those people are way above usin the pay grade.
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I believe this governmentis corrupted beyond words,
and there's nothingwe can do about.
So I'm at the point nowI'm not worried about it.
If it doesn't affect my friends,my family, and the street
I live on and it doesn't stopme from, Yeah, I
just can't worryabout it anymore, you know?
Let me let's know,ever at a point in politics
where you were listeningto the news all the time,
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you know, getting upset and notletting it stress, you know.
Yeah, it's obsessed with it.
You know, listening toto this news station,
that news stationtalk to my friends on Facebook
about it all the time.
It got to the point where, likeby Dylan, the anguish
in your lap, Facebook,how many times.
Oh, yeah I just I got 304330 day suspensions
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off of Facebook.
That's actually we figuredthat's 4043 months.
That's a couple of years there.
You know, I meanbut I don't care.
I mean, you know, Facebook,it's balanced the way it is.
Facebook is the job.
They kick you offfor any reason.
Now for Facebook.
You know, the truth is offensiveand facts are what they call
bullying.
You know, I call somebodya cream puff.
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One time they kickedme off for 30 days for that.
I mean, apparently theydon't like pastry, you know what
I mean?
I said, well, we live in aa world of illusion
right now. Nothing.
Nothing is realexcept your family.
And what you hold your handbecause you listen to the news.
They say whatever they wantyou to hear.
They say fake news.
This is real.
That's real.
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One guy said, oh, well,the economy is bright yellow guy
saying the economy's bad.
You know, Meanwhile, a box ofFrosted Flakes is 849 at the
grocery store, I was walking byhis manager, other diagonal, 849
where Frosted Flakes are used.
Three goes, yeah, yeah.
For the big box I gotTony to tell you he's not that
(39:08):
great anymore, you know.
I mean, you know, you knowwhat they say It's great.
Never.
849 It's not, you know, likeI said, the bottom line is
you can't be fake and all thesenegative things.
You can't let the negativityof the outside world
get into your head becauseit kills your morale
and it brings on depressionand depression as.
One of the biggest thingsthat'll stop you from
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working out because you don'twant to do anything when you're
depressed, you want tostay home, you sit around
and you're thinking too much,thinking Too much is not good.
I mean, it's still you have todown phone, stay off the phone
and stop being on social mediaevery 5 minutes.
You know what?
I'm guilty of it.
I'm guilty of it because Ilook at Instagram.
Well, you know,you look at Tik Tok and some of
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the videos are interesting.
They're farting, you know, Butbut Facebook, they Facebook,
Facebook, to me was it wasit was a poison because
you're on it all the timeand you're always commenting
on some political.
I just don't care anymore.
It's the bottom line.
And I'm in a betterplace for fully.
Yeah.
Need to keep you happy.
So stay away from that crap.
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All right, Rick.
So I want to ask you about goalsfor our listeners.
I like for you to give thema goal to reach.
And how would they get there?
Delivered better life.
Oh, okay.
Don't go.
Be on the spot too much.
Okay, people, listen to me.
You'll be fine.
You know what, though?
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The bottom line ispeople get to do what they do
to make themselves happy.
Nobody can tell youhow you're going to be happy.
But if you're unhappy withthe way you look,
if you're unhappy with the wayyou feel that have to
to make a decision to dosomething about it, your biggest
competitor is staringright back at you
(40:52):
in that mirror.
That's the person you have toworry about the most.
Don't worry about whatpeople think about you.
Don't worry about whatpeople care about you because
they're not paying your bills.
So the hell with them.
Look in the mirror.
That's the personthat's going to make you happy.
So if you have a goal,if you say, okay, okay, New
Year's is coming up, people makethe you know, they make their
what they call their longresult or new.
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Right?
So promise yourselfto do something.
If you feel likegoing to McDonald's and you go
to McDonald's a lot, don'tgo to McDonald's.
Just have discipline.
You're a strong personif you smoke Cigarets.
Now, I know nicotine isvery addictive,
but you got to say to yourself,I'm a strong I have a brain.
That little thing,that little piece of rolled
(41:38):
tobacco in a box is calling meand I'm not going to listen.
Or that chocolate cakeis calling me.
I'm not going to listen becauseI'm going to change.
And guess what?
If the bottom line,if you make a goal for yourself
and you don't accomplishthat goal and the bottom
line is you didn'ttry hard enough no matter what,
because if you want somethingbad enough, you will find
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a way to do it.
You will do it if you wantit better.
If you don't accomplish it,you want to better.
And that's okay too.
But just don't blame anybodybut yourself because dieting
is tough.
But it's not hard.
Just don't eat it.
Stay away from the sugars,lower your carbohydrates
up your protein, and even ifyou have to go outside and walk
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around your yardfor an hour, do it.
You have to keep moving.
You will lose weight, you willaccomplish it.
And it may take a month or so.
But when you seethe difference that
when you get cite and say,wow, it's worth it, and that's
when you push yourself moreand more and more and more.
And that's the that's what it isand that's how you do it.
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That's the goal.
You know, get your mind,get your mind free of any
crap around you.
And while you're working out,don't think of anything else
but working out becauseit will drag you down.
Look like it's hard enough.
It could be an anchor, it couldpull you down for that hour.
You're working out in the gym.
Whatever.
2 hours, walk around your yard,clear your mind and think about,
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I am doing this for me and I'mgoing to look good
the next year.
People won't recognize You'renot just that's straight
and that's it, like I said.
And if you don't do it,that's okay too.
But you got to want to do itand you can't do it half that.
You know you can't you can't goto the gym and,
you know, do a set and look,it's your fault for 20 minutes
to do another SAT.
No, put the phone away.
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Put your music on.
But the music on thatthat satisfies you no matter
what it is to get you motivatedwith your music on
and get in the frame of mindwhere you're going to go.
Take a minute between sets,do a set, sit down,
take a minute.
That minute'sup, do another set.
Trust me, you'll be in that gymand your body will
thank you for it.
Nothing feels worse than havinga bad workout back was crappy.
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But then you will go back again.
And that's what people don't.
Don't understand that.
I wish at this pointthis episode could be video
because I love the determinationin your face as you are saying.
No, that that was great.
And I also wish the listenerscould see you well.
Thank you.
Man.
Bowling, you are a helping.
(44:12):
I saw all your but yeah, yeah.
I mean, nothing is worsethan getting sick.
Being sick is the absolute worstthat we could've been fed.
A lot of sicknesses by,by keeping our our health
gut health.
Take probiotics.
Everybody should betaking probiotics
because everythingstarts in the gut.
Take your vitamins.
When Colbert came out,you notice the government.
(44:32):
All they did was push vaccines.
Nobody ever mentionsabout nutrition or vitamin
supplements, zinc,vitamin D3, B12, or B-COMPLEX.
Any imagery that doyour own research.
Don't trust what you hear.
Do your own research on howto stay healthy.
And when you have a cell phonewith Google, you have the world
(44:54):
at your fingertips.
There's nothing you can'tlook up that you will
find on Google, especially whenit comes to nutrition
and health.
It's up to the person.
Now, I know people worked a lot.
Today's economy,people work a lot.
They come home.
They're tired.
Last thing I want to do is gowork out.
It goes back to howbad you want it.
How bad do you want it?
We come home and you gotan hour.
Get an hour to try.
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Don't make, make leave.
That's one more hour workthat you had to do.
You had to do it.
If you had to do it,you would do it yourself
after you do it because it makesyou feel great, right?
You'll feel so much betteronce you start in a program
that you'll be addicted toor that you will want to stop.
And that's thebest thing for you right there,
not wanting to stop.
So I was going to end this,but if you had a
(45:35):
few more minutes,I'd like to hear you say
a little bit moreabout that helps.
You said how important guthealth steps, right?
Well, everythingstarts in your gut
and probiotics are the oppositeof what you take for a sickness,
which is antibiotics.
Antibiotics are good.
They kill the germs.
They kill whateverwith getting sick.
(45:55):
But the problem is they killeverything.
And probiotics are billions,literally billions that are a
little capsule of good nutrientsin your body.
And they start with gut health.
Everything startsin your stomach, in your gut,
in your intestines.
Your whole health systemstarts there.
When you take probiotics,it keeps it strong.
I take of as little soldierswhen I go down there
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and fight it off anyanything bad on my stomach
because I have a very sensitive,very sensitive gut.
If I eat somethinga little bit spicy,
it bothers me.
And I take my probiotics.
I think each pill has likea billion active cultures in it.
I mean, probiotics are foundin yogurts, plain yogurt.
I mean, a few eat like thesesome of these yogurts that claim
to have it.
And if they're pasteurized,they're pretty much they killed
(46:38):
the probioticsjust go to a health food store
and the best probioticsare found in a refrigerator
during a refrigerated section.
You got to keep it refrigeratedbecause these are large.
These are live little creatures.
They're live microbiotacreatures.
They have to be alive to work.
So I take two pillsa day in the back to start
to keep you healthy.
I mean, that's that's a routinethat I always I always do.
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Because the gut healthlike I said, everything starts
in the gut.
All diseases, sicknessesstart with nutrition.
You have to eat welland you have to keep your
intestines healthy.
Yeah.
Did you start taking probioticswhen you started working out
or you're skinny?
No, I'm taking a probioticsjust the past maybe three years,
(47:20):
because I didn't really I didn'treally know too much about it.
I mean, I heard about it,but I start doing more reading
about it and.
Actually, my wife pushed meon that because my wife
got her degree as a physician'sassistant, so she would
tell me about it,take probiotics, and then I
started doing it.
And it preventscolds and prevents
stomach aches.
It prevents gas, it prevents,you know, diarrhea, prevents
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it helps prevent all that stuff.
It's not a cure all,but it's just one more thing to
keep you healthy.
So I put an additivein your gas tank
to make your engine run better.
Bottom line.
Well, thanks for sharingthat information against us.
So is there anything in 2020or for a dictator that it's down
that it approaches healthand happiness?
I'm retired.
(48:02):
Every day is a weekend for me.
So, I mean, you know,I live day by day right now.
You know, we play because of thetRick plan.
My my wife's parents aremy wife's mother lives
in Finland.
So we're going to go see her.
Go to Finland.
That's a that'sa beautiful place.
But so maybe somemore traveling, maybe
doing fishing.
Yeah, Seeing a little moretrout over.
Not better in India.
(48:23):
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
So I.
Yeah, but as soon as thiswind dies down, it's
been very windy.
So nobody, nobody is out thereright now.
It's been pretty rough, but only24 hours.
Who knows.
You know, it's who knowsthe state of the country
is going to be this year.
Who knows?
You know, I mean, everything'sdifferent than it was
when we were kids.
Yeah, who knows?
Yeah.
So when you travel,you work out?
(48:44):
Yes.
I find the joke somewhere.
When I was in Desert Storm,the first Gulf War,
we went to Bahrainand they told us,
you're not allowedto wear tank tops because you
know, it's it's a muslim.
But Bahrain is pretty,pretty liberal.
So I'm one of the onlyMuslim countries
that serve alcohol.
So, you know, we got to stayin the Hilton because
there wasn't a base there.
We were using the the NationalAirport as a runway.
(49:06):
And the first day I got there,I put a tank top on it
and I looked out the little,little lounge down there, and
there was a Filipino bandplaying Pink Floyd as two guys
that were from Saudi Arabiaand the full headdress
that was sitting next to me.
And I thought I was I thoughtI took some kind of
hallucinogenic joke.
I go, Where the hell am I?
(49:26):
So they have a lot of majorhotels there.
So I just wentfrom hotel to hotel
and used their gym.
You can always find somewherework out.
And even if you can't finda gym, walk, run, do something.
You know they do.
If I swim in a pool swimming,swimming's great.
You know.
So like I said,I'll say it again.
I said it a million times.
It's just a matter of how badyou want it.
(49:48):
You'll find something.
Well, thank you so much forbeing on the show.
It's just fun.
Well, thank you for inviting meas it was. Was fun.
I haven't spoken to youin a long time.
I miss you.
We got to get together.
Absolutely.
Thank you.
This is Angela Grayson from theLoving Life Fitness Podcast.
(50:13):
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