January 22, 2024 • 44 mins
Ron Jantz is a soon to be 59-year-old trying to stay young! Personal fitness is his avenue of choice along that journey. He shares his personal journey of fitness plateaus, finding motivation, creative outdoor workouts and finding happiness through staying in the moment.
As a professional, he has spent his entire career as a storyteller. Ron graduated from Ohio University’s E.W. Scripps School of Journalism in 1987. He worked in television news as an award winning sports reporter and anchor in Cleveland, Ohio from November of 1987 to November of 2000.
Since November of 2000, he has served as the Digital Media Coordinator at Lorain County Community College. LCCC is located in northeastern Ohio. Ron tells the stories of the students and professors at LCCC.
He has kept his hand in the sports scene over the last 23 years as a freelance reporter and producer, radio broadcaster and play-by-play voice for local college and high school sports. He is also a photographer. Nature is his focus. Ron and his wife Stacy celebrate 30 years of marriage this summer and are blessed with four children.
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This is Angela Grayson fromthe Loving Life Fitness Podcast.
To help others in their fitnessjourney.
It's all possible! It’s timeto wake up.
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Here we go. Hi, everyone.
This is Angela Grayson from theLoving Life Fitness Podcast,
where we talk to othersabout their life in health
and fitness to help otherstry to live a better life.
So today I have with meRon Jantz who is just an
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ordinary guy, just like meand you.
And he's going to tell usabout his journey in fitness
and how his lifestyle worksvery well for him.
So, hi, Ron.
How are you doing?
I am doing great.
Yeah.
So I'm here in Floridaand it's not too cold.
And Ron is over there in Ohio,but he says he likes
the cold weather.
Do you like to work outin the cold weather?
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I do, actually.
When I run in the cold,I find that I breathe better.
I my lungs enjoy cold air.
And I know that's not thethat's not the same or the truth
for a lot of folks, but I enjoyrunning in cold air.
Yeah.
You know, they say thatthere's more people that have
heart attacks that exerciseoutdoors in cold weather than
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warm weather.
Because I like you for that.
No, but if you feel better,you might be, hey, that person
where it doesn't affect youthat way.
But cold.
They say constrictsare arteries.
So that blood flow supposedly isnot as good.
But if you're in reallygood shape already,
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you don't have to probably worryabout that because you
have great blood flow.
Well, I'm trying to stay inI call it relevant shape.
And that's that's always my goalto stay relevant,
relevant, relevant to what?
Relevant to my goals in life.
I always say I havethree reasons for trying
to stay fit.
One First and foremost, health.
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I want to stay healthy.
I'm a husband and a father, andI want to be healthy
for my children and my wifeand myself too.
Personal Pride.
I think we all havepersonal pride and
I want to remain, you know, whatI would consider to be
a healthy person, to be someonein shape to to keep that
personal pride up.
And then the third one is,is not really a truth, but it's
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more a joke.
I always kid my wife.
The third reason that I work outand try to stay in shape is
so she doesn't find a 2530 yearold to run off with a good one.
Yeah, that would not be nice.
That's where the relevantcomes in.
Personal Pride.
Overall health for myselfand my family.
And then, you know, I mean,we all want to look good, right?
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Yeah, of course.
Look good.
Feel good.
You know, it all comes together.
And to be able to do the thingswe want to do in life
for as long as we possibly can.
Having children, you know,that's a good influence on your
children, too.
How old are your kids?
So my kids are 27, 25,23 and 20, and they're
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all physically active as well.
They were all runnersin high school.
They all continue to run.
I you're right.
I Angela, I, I want to seta good example for my children.
And I think that is one ofseveral ways that you can do it
as a parent.
Awesome.
So, Ron, let's go way back towhen you were younger, maybe in
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high school or college.
Who were your influences?
How did you get involvedin physical fitness or is that
something that just always camenaturally to you?
Well, I think maybe thefirst influence and I've never
really thought about it,so you just ask that question.
My dad was a carpenter.
He was a guy who used tobuild houses in back in the day
in the sixties and seventies,when three guys build a house,
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you'd have, you know, a coupleof carpenters,
you'd have a masonand you'd have a plumber.
And so he was he was physicalevery day of his life,
and he was in good shape.
My dad was a good looking man,in good shape
and in good health.
So, you know, just seeing himalways be in shape probably had
an influence on me that Iwasn't even aware of.
But then whenI got to the school
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and the high schoolspecifically, I was a wrestler.
I wrestled in high school andI wasn't very good.
I was very average,but I was committed to being in
the best shape that I couldpossibly be in.
And plus, I was in high schoolin the late seventies,
early 1980s, and backin those days they had a thing
called the president'sphysical fitness exam, where
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if you could do 120 sit upsand in 120 seconds,
60 pushups, 20 pull ups,and then there was
a shuttle run, I forget whatthe time was, but you could get
a presidential certificate.
And we had a fitness teamat my high school.
I was a part of that.
So with wrestling and tryingto stay in shape to be an
effective wrestler and thenwith the physical fitness team
that I was on, those seedswere sown very early in my life,
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like 14, 15 years old.
And the coaches have a lot to dowith that influence, too.
I can remember back in schoolwhen I was in high school also,
you know, being involvedin sports even as far back
as middle school, just greatPE teachers and great coaches
that had a great influenceon my active lifestyle
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and that stayed with meall of my life.
Those teachers, well, two of myhigh school wrestling coaches,
Larry Rohan, Tim Daly,I still consider friends today
and they are much older than meobviously, and they are still
in very good shape.
Awesome.
Where do they live?
They're in Ohio also.
One's in Ohio and oneis in Florida.
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So the oldest one movedto Florida after he retired
from teaching him and his wifemoved down to Florida for,
you know, warmer weather,better for, I think their
aging bones and you stillkeep in touch with them.
Absolutely.
Wow.
I don't think I've ever heardyou know, people keep in touch
with their high school friendsor childhood friends.
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But I don't thinkI've ever heard of anybody
keeping in touchwith their teachers or coaches.
That's awesome.
Well, yeah, when you havea coach that commits to the
to the young people that heor she coaches and you
as an athlete or as a studentor as a young teenager,
really feel that they careabout you and that stays
with you.
And I know myselfas a as a coach of young people
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in athletics, I try to emulatethose same characteristics,
you know, be a part of theirlives, care for them,
be interested in whatthey're doing and stay in touch.
Absolutely.
You're going to have tomake sure you let them know
about this podcast becausethey're going to love hearing
what you're saying about them.
Yeah, Yeah.
So are you a coach now?
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No, just with my childrenas they were growing up
and as we've talked about,they're all in their twenties
right now, so they're kind ofaged out of that youth type
athletic environment.
But from the time that my oldestwas five, he's
now 27 til the time that myyoungest was 18.
So that was a stretch of,I don't know, 20 years, I think,
where I coached everythingthat was played and I loved
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every second of it.
Awesome.
That is great.
And what about them?
Do they get involvedin coaching at all?
Well, my son,who's a high school
teacher, is a track and crosscountry coach.
So yes.
And then the other three, oneis just out of college
and starting herprofessional life and two are
still in college and nograndchildren yet to have him.
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No, no, no.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
That's a near future.
Yeah, hopefully soon.
My son is engaged.
And so, you know, I think that'svery near in our future.
Exciting times.
Very good.
Okay.
What about struggles?
Can you tell meabout any struggles you've had
in your life to stick toyour healthy lifestyle?
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Well, I think the biggeststruggle has been and continues
to be just staying motivated.
And actually, you know,it's funny that you and I
are doing thisat this particular time,
not in the day,but just in my life right now,
because over the lasttwo months, I black motivation
and I'm slipping in myfitness goals and and things
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that I want to make surethat I accomplish.
And you know, Angela has asor I should know, I'm 58 years
old, almost 59.
So it's it's harder to getto a certain level.
And it's it's very easy to slipfrom that level and that
it's harder to get even harderto get back to that level.
So I've prided myself instaying at a certain level,
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being consistent in my workoutsand in my commitment and in my
discipline.
And over the last two months,I've really slipped from that
and I need to refocus.
So your question is, too,has there been any trials
or trouble or.
Yeah, right now I'm in oneand so if you have any words
of motivation for meto get me back on it,
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feel free to.
To send them my way.
But I'll be back.
I'm a fairly decentself motivator.
So I do find, though,that having a partner
in your fitness journey isvery helpful because you're
committed to himor her or whomever
your partner is.
And even when you have a bad dayor a morning where you don't
want to work outor an afternoon, depending on
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when you do it, you do itbecause you know they're going
to be there.
You need to show up, you need tosupport them.
And that works.
And it hasn't in my past.
Yeah.
So I was introduced to youby somebody else that I recorded
with recently.
I don't know if you'velistened to my my podcast
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with Nancy Budget.
Yeah, wonderful.
But she was your personaltrainer when she was.
Yes.
And she helped keep youmotivated because you
told her what you wantedand she was able to satisfy you
in that department and youstuck with her and, you know,
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maybe some times that's whatwe need.
You know, if things aren'tyou feel like
things aren't goingright or things you're
getting lazy.
You know, you have to haveto have somebody to commit to
to be there with youfor a while.
The trainers are awesome.
It's just a matter of findingthe right one to fit you.
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Nancy Nice.
It it's a good word.
I challenged her to challenge meand she did that.
I, I am not a traditional styleworkout person.
And what I mean by that,you will not find me in a gym
with weights, just pumpin weight.
I'm not interested in that.
I'm bored with that.
I want to do different things.
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And I told Nancy, I don't wantto spend my time in the
fitness center with weights.
I'm into a lot of bodyweight type stuff.
I'm into unique workouts.
And what I mean by that,balancing on a log while lifting
another log in a wood chopping,you know, format from,
you know, top of your shoulderdown to your ankle and back up
and forth or doing a bearcrawl up a hill, you know,
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those types of things.
And Nancy, I think, really likedthat opportunity to be different
in the workouts that sheplanned for me.
And we did a lot of fun stuffthat kept me interested
and obviously kept me in shape.
Well, you know, you couldalways get a hold of her again.
She can do some long distancetraining with you now at work.
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We remained close.
She is a good motivatorfor me, for sure.
That's great.
So why in the past two monthshave you fallen off the wagon?
What do you.
What do you think is causing us?
You know what?
It's a great question.
And if I.
If I knew the answer,I'd probably fix it.
I think that at Novemberis a difficult personal month
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for me.
I've had both of my parentsin the past have.
That has been the monththat I've lost both of them.
So I have often found my selfin November, you know,
November has never beena friend to me.
So but it's uniquethat I say that because when
I was going throughdifficult times with my parents
health, I found my own fitnessworkouts therapeutic.
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I found that the more I ran,the more I would do
physical exercise,the better I felt.
So this November, though, hasbeen difficult and it's
bled into December and hopefullyit won't bleed into January.
I just need to get backafter it.
You have a magical mix of thingseither going right or wrong
in our lives that lead to eithersuccess or failure.
And right now that magic mixis kind of a negative thing.
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I've talk to you about thatNovember, but then Nancy leaves
a woman who I was very close toas a trainer.
There's a couple of thingsgoing on there that I just need
to figure out, butI have confidence in my stuff.
Awesome.
Yeah.
And, you know, once we startget getting back
into our workoutsand we remember how good
it makes us feel, doesn't takevery long to want to stay
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in that flow again.
You know, I said to you,or I talk to you
about sweating out the poison.
That's how I look at a workoutfrom a therapy standpoint,
mental health as wellas obviously physical health.
I think working outis huge for me mentally.
And and I use the term I'mgoing to sweat out the boys.
I want to sweat when I workout again, I don't want to sit
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at a bench with dumbbellsand just build muscle mass.
I'm not built like that.
I'm long and lean.
I want to stay that way.
I don't think I could be bigeven if I wanted to
be and tried to be.
So I sweat.
I want to do things that whereI'm moving all the time.
I have limited rest.
I have I'll do an exercisein a count my head
for 15 seconds and then go backat it again.
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So I'm getting thatheart rate up of sweating
and that works for me.
Sweat out the poisethat I get out everything
in my body that's mentally,you know, taking me
in a direction that I don'twant to be.
So I sweat, I work hard.
It works for me.
It does.
And when you get to that pointphysically in your workout,
you can't think aboutanything else.
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You're focused on whatyou're doing in order
to get through that workout.
You're right.
And it's also cleansing.
I don't know.
Maybe this is all just my mindcreating this in my my head.
And if that's the case,then that's okay to write
whatever works,whatever gets you to the point
you want to be at mentallyand physically is
what's important.
Yeah.
(14:34):
And, you know, we needto show ourselves some grace
and take a breakwhen we need to.
But hey, Ron, two monthsis long enough.
Get back to it.
Yeah, I will.
Okay.
Awesome.
Got to stay healthy.
You got to stay strongbecause just like
you were saying,as you get older, it only takes
a short period of time of notmoving around, not using
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your strength, and thingsjust start falling apart
and first it's the body and thenthat has an effect
on the mind also.
And you don't want to bein that boat now.
And you know what?
Well, I think one of the thingsthat's important
for me at my ageand maybe others
at a similar ageis the flexibility that comes
with a consistent workout.
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Your body is remains flexible.
You are stretching more than younormally would.
And when I'm not doing that,when I'm not working out,
when I'm not preparingmy body for workout
or stretching before and after,I feel it, I feel it in
my joints.
I feel it in those air pocketsin my back that, you know,
crack where it sounds likeevery bone in your body
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is cracking.
But I think it's really just theair pockets in between
the joints that makethose noises.
And I feel it in the soreness.
Actually, I would makethe argument that Angela,
I feel more sore my bodywhen I'm not working out
than when I'm working outreally hard.
And that makes it is.
Oh, absolutely doesI know exactly what you're
talking about?
So what do you do forflexibility training?
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Well, back to theunique workouts that I would do
with Nancy.
And even before her back to mywrestling days,
just moving my bodyin abnormal ways.
I mean, I do active stretching.
And I learned this throughcross-country with my children.
And they had a very, very goodcross-country coach.
What I mean by activestretching is
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as I won't sit down in a hurdlerstretch and just stay there
in that stationary positionand do a traditional
hurdler stretch, I will walkand stretch at the same time.
I will have hip rotationin a fluid movement while I'm
leaning up against a treeor something like that.
So active stretching isbig for me, working on
my posture a lot.
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It's been bad.
It affects my lower back.
I think it reallykind of set me back
and I don't mean, you know,having cold it.
What I mean by iswhen when the world shut down
and everybody was workingfrom home and I'm an active guy,
so suddenly I'm workingfrom home and I'm sitting
in a chair looking at acomputer screen every day,
five days a week.
And that hurt my posture,that affected my lower back.
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I'm still trying to get backfrom that, still trying to
change the way I feelin my lower back because of all
that sitting.
I'm an active guy in my job.
I'm a videographerand a photographer and a writer.
I do visual marketingtype stuff, so I'm not
in an office sitting thereat a computer.
But when COVID hit and we wereall forced to and I mean forced,
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forced to do that,it was difficult
physically for me, very hard tostay still.
I can agree with that.
I'm very active personmyself, too.
Always moving around and wantingto do something
different and go.
And it's just hard to sitstill for a long period of time.
Yeah, COVID messed with a lotof people's minds and bodies.
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Definitely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you try to stayactive though, at home?
Yeah, the runninggot me through it.
I mean, I would I would go outand run and that would
sweat out, you know, themental boys and that would
get into your headduring that time.
Absolutely.
That was key for getting throughthat time for me, for sure.
Yeah.
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That's great.
Yeah.
Running at push ups,you know, body
weight type stuff.
Push ups, pull ups, running areprobably my three main fitness
staples and many pull ups.
Can you do it?
I could.
16 probably right nowJust jump up on the bar, do 16
and they're true pull ups.
I will say this is like I'mI am not a fan of the pull ups
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that I see people dowhere they're tipping their body
the entire time.
You're not doing a pull up.
My father was a marine.
You have the MarineCorps pull up where
your hands areover, not under you
Take your body in a straight upand straight down.
Straight up and straight down.
It's not this kip.
And you get a big swing going.
You're not doing a pull.
That's not a pull up.
I thought I soundvery opinionated
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on that. In I am.
No, that's okay.
That's awesome.
Well, somebody tells methey can do tempo ups
and then they jump up on the barand they're kipping and they're
swinging.
I'm like, You're notdoing a pull up that doesn't
even count as one.
If I'm judging you, you haven'teven done one pull up yet.
Give me one good one.
Zach Right.
Just give me one good one.
Let me see if you can do that.
I'll tell you a quick storyabout that.
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My son, all my childrenhave gone to Ohio
State in either their junioror senior year.
I take them up to that schoolup north that's located
in a place called Ann Arborfor that Ohio State game against
that team from up north.
And my senior year,my son's senior
year, we're walkingaround the stadium in Ann Arbor
before the OhioState game against that team
from up north and theMarine Corps is there.
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They're doing a pull up contestand they're giving
out t shirts daily.
But he didn't get 20 pullups.
You you get allthese college kids that are
jumping up there and they'retrying to do pull ups
and they get five or threeor ten or whatever.
And I jump up and I say,I want to try.
So they said, Go ahead.
So I get two, I get to 90and and these guys are just
blown away.
I think these two Marines areblown away.
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These two like 22 yearold guys that this this 50
something guy has just done19 pull ups and I couldn't
get to 20.
I couldn't get to 20.
I couldn't go straight back up.
I just couldn't do it.
I'd get about halfway upand I just couldn't do it.
And I dropped in the bar and andthey gave me it gave me
to a t shirt, which I thoughtwas pretty cool.
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So.
Slide 19 that is.
Sure. Yeah.
You said be so tell meabout all aspects of your
healthy lifestyle, because it'snot just about working out
and staying all right.
I try to eat right and I'll saywhat I'm about to say.
I'm not being judgmental at all.
I just I don't drink.
It's not because I look poorlyon people to do I That's not
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the case at all.
I just choose not to drinkbecause it's something
that's not for me.
And I think Angela,that has helped me
with my weight over the years,never been a beer drinker.
I haven't had to dealwith drinking beer, adding
weight to my body.
I don't drink, pop.
I did when I was in myearly twenties.
I was in a job as a sportsreporter at a television station
in the Cleveland market,where I was working nights,
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weekends, holidays,night, late nights, you know,
lots of pressure deadlines.
And I drink a lot of Coca-Cola.
I drank a lot of coke in myearly twenties, and that was
not good for me.
So I stopped in my latetwenties, Don't drink
alcohol, don't drink pop.
Potato chips are my worstvice in life.
We all have a vicein life, right?
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Mine is potato chips.
I am addicted to them.
I cannot put them down. Lookit up to me and I would fail
every time because I would.
I would eat the chip.
But I tried to do thatin moderation,
try to eat healthy.
Obviously, you know, we allfail sometimes.
Maybe that's part of my lasttwo months.
It's been the holiday seasonand I've been eating things
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that I don't typically eat.
But you're right, it's not justphysical fitness.
I try to eat healthy.
I wouldn't say that I'm really,you know, off the charts
with it, but I do pay attentionto what I eat.
I don't eat fast food.
You won't find me at McDonald'sor Burger King or any of
those places.
Fast food to me,the worst comment I think
that I do have would be a subat subway with a bag of chips.
I stay away from OP, I stay awayfrom beer, I fail
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at eating late.
I do eat late because of ourlifestyle and our family.
I will oftentimes eat dinner
at 9 (22:18):
00 at night and then go to bed an hour, which I know
is bad.
I think that's one thingthat I have to change.
But my lifestyle doesn't reallyallow me to do that.
So I pay attentionto what I eat, I pay
attention to what I drink.
I try to do thingslike photography is a big part
of my mental physicalhealth journey.
I get out.
As a matter of fact,I am at a place right now
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where I'm on Lake Erie as youand I talk, and there are
seagulls that are just flyingall around me.
They're here to try to eatthe little minnows that are up
on the water trying tofind bugs.
And so I get out therapeuticallyin nature.
I get lost in the woods.
I climb a mountain or a hill.
I get I go along a streamor an old stone quarry and just
and just lose myself.
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And mentally that helps me too.
So you asked what were somethings that I do to stay healthy
other than the typical things ofworking out?
Those are thingsand photography's
a huge part of it.
I get lost in nature.
Nature is important to me.
I breathe better.
I feel betterwhen I'm in nature.
Very nice.
Do you live near Lake Erie?
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I do.
I live I live threeand a half blocks
from Lake Erie.
Wow.
Very cool.
What's that like?
It's beautiful.
I do not take it for granted.
I see many sunsets and I seemany sunrises views.
And I find beauty.
Even in the gray cold days,which we are in right now
in northeastern Ohio.
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It's been real foggy here latelybecause the temperatures
have been kind of fluctuatingbetween warm and cold.
And and that mix with the waterand the warmer temperatures
of the water, the cooler air,you know, sometimes creates fog.
I get out at nightand I find beauty
even in the fog.
I mean, you can find beautyeven in fog and gray days
if you look for it.
Sure.
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Absolutely.
A rainy day.
Yeah.
Light storms, it doesn't haveto be sunny and gorgeous
outside.
It's so good for the mindand the soul to be out
in nature.
It's gets you to a meditativestate.
Especially when you're aloneout there.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
You're in your own thoughts.
My wife laughs because I'llwhen I'll come back
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from something, she'll sayhow to go, and I'll say, Well,
there was this person who stolemy silence.
I don't know if I createdthe terms, Don't
steal my silence or or a stealerof silence, but the example
I'll be out in the woods,you know, enjoying
the quiet moments of the windor the rustling of the leaves
or the pitter patter ofa squirrel running over,
you know, the pine cones.
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And then somebody will comewalking along and they're
talking on their cell phone.
And not only are they talking ontheir cell phone, but they got
the speaker on.
So I can hear everythingthey're saying and then I can
hear everything that the personthey're talking to is saying.
And and I call those silentstealers.
And I don't know why.
If you're out in the middleof the woods trying to
enjoy nature, that you haveyour cell phone
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on, talking on it.
And again, that's just mebeing opinionated
about something like that.
But my wife chuckles at me.
She thinks I'moverly opinionated on that type
of thing, but I don't supportviolence.
You agree with that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was with a frienda couple of years back.
We went on a trip tothree places Grand Canyon, Zion
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and Bryce Bryce National Park,and I had to tell her,
When are you going to putthat phone away?
It's like, put it away and enjoythe time that that's
You're here.
We can talk later.
Doesn't have to be that way.
But so many people do do thatand they're not focusing on
the moment where they areand taking it all in.
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You can't you can't if you'reon the phone with another
human being who's not therewith you, enjoy it.
Right.
You don't know when you're goingto do it again.
You don't know what's goingto happen next out there
in nature.
I always say in order to enjoythe moment, you've got to be
in the moment.
And what I mean by that is,is what you just said,
you know, be focusedin the moment, but also
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put yourself out there.
Don't spend time sitting infront of your computer
at all and go outand go for a hike, take a walk.
Just simple things.
Go sit in your backyard,watch the birds fly around.
I tell my kids this, Angela,walk through your life
with your head up and your eyeswide open and you'll
be surprised at what you may seeif you think of
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how you get to work every day.
Angela Or how you go tothe grocery store or what
Think of somethingtypical in your day and how
you got there If the next day,what if you do it and you have
your eyes wide open inyour head up and you're not
solely focusedon getting to work,
or the first thing you got to dowhen you get there and you
actually observe what'sgoing on around you
and the things that you passevery day, you may see
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some things that you'll go,Oh my God, I never knew
that was there.
Oh my gosh, look how prettythat is.
I never have noticedthat before.
We're all guilty of it.
I know I have been.
And I work really hardnot to be.
I try to encourage my children.
Walk through life with your headup and your eyes wide open.
Absolutely.
Okay.
I wanted to go back.
You had mentioned somethingabout posture.
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How do you work on your posture?
All right.
Well, you just mentioned it.
I adjusted the way I'm sittingin my right.
You know, there's a personin my life who has dealt
with my posture.
And she took me to the woodshedabout a month ago on
And what I mean by that wasvery aggressively
telling me that I have notbeen paying attention to her
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and not been have not beena good patient.
And she was right.
How do I deal with posture?
I, I tend to slumpwhen I'm seated and like kind of
like your back.
The spine is supposed to be likelike a it's like a seahorse,
you know, like an ass.
It's not supposed to belike an arch,
you know, hump minebecause of the way that I sit
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or to lean forward all the time.
Bad posture.
When I walk, I tend to,for some reason,
squeeze my shoulderblades together.
Like, you know, when you'recold, Angela, and you kind of
bring your shoulders up,kind of like, you know,
near your jaw or your earsand it tighten your body.
I find myself walking like thata lot, and I don't know why.
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Bad posture.
My favorite way to sleepis on my belly.
Bad for your posture, badfor your lower back,
bad for your spine.
So these are all musclememory habits, body habits
every day.
This is the way you doit, you know, and we all know
that when you breaksomething down,
you try to fix it or you tryto change it.
It takes time.
And so posture has beena constant struggle for me.
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And as I grew older, itit affects my lower back
and that then in turn affectsmy ankles, It affects my feet,
it affects my neck, and then upthrough my neck and out
the back of my upmy back of my head.
Now, through mymy right high ball.
I mean, there's itposture is it's the thread
for everything in your body.
It really is.
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Yeah.
Everything is connectedof course.
And that's why it affectsso many different things.
I've I've noticed that men moreso as they get older.
And I know, of courseit has something
to do with gravity, but they'renot aware.
They're not aware of how they'reslouching in their heads
are coming forward.
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I've worked with so many peopleas a personal trainer trying to
get them to just stand upagainst the wall
and take their arms up and downand they can't even keep
their arms back against the wallas they go up, because having
those rounded shouldersbecomes such a permanent thing
for them, they don't evenrealize it.
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Don't look in the mirrorand notice it.
And it's not until you starthaving issues like you
were saying with your back,with your ankles, with your neck
and your shoulders, everythinggoing forward.
You know, you may start pinchingsome nerves.
And it's it's very importantto stay on top of that posture
and try to do thingsto correct it.
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I started taking ballroomdancing classes last year.
It's been a year now, and that'ssomething that that really helps
with posture.
You have to stand up straightfor that type of dancing.
And if you don't, you can'tdance correctly.
And what a way to beconstantly aware
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of what's going onwith your posture.
And you try to correctthat when you do your strength
and strengthening the musclesin the back of the body
to help yourself come back againtakes time.
Your body doesn't feel naturalwhen you sit up straight right?
Right.
You just said something thathit home for me and it's
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the weakest part of my body.
The muscles in the backpart of my body lower back,
my back in general always havebeen weakest.
Part of my body continues to be.
And I think, Angela,it's the reason for or well,
one of the reasonsfor bad posture but
it's also weak backmuscles is also you know
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it's a reason for bad posture.
But it's it's also a it's aresult of bad posture.
It's one of the thingsNancy worked out
with me with was, you know, backexercises, back strengthening
as I grew older.
I want to have that core,that strong core, especially in
my back.
And you're exactly right.
I'm weak back thereand it affects me in many ways.
Yeah.
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So many people, when they workon their core, they're so spoke
just on the frontof their right.
And that's an imbalance.
You know, if you've gotthe front of the body
strengthened, the back ofthe body is suffering.
So we've got to strengthenthose muscles in the back
of the body so the frontstretches and opens up.
You feel better,you breathe better,
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you look better.
Yeah.
The other thing ismaybe you should take up
ballroom dancing.
You need You canexperience that.
I would like that.
You know, I have three daughtersand a son and three daughters.
And one day when thosethree daughters get married,
I want to be a very good dancerin the father daughter dance.
And I.
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You saying ballroom dancing?
I One of my goals in lifeis to become a good dancer,
or at least a representa ball dancer, someone that
will know and embarrasshis children.
And as those three girlsget to the age where they're
going to be, where marriage isin their future, I want to be
a good dancer.
So maybe if it helps my posture,then it's a double win
for me, right?
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I guarantee you it'll makeyou more aware of your posture,
not only while you're dancing,but out in the real world
every day, too.
You'll be more aware of it.
You'll be holding thoseshoulders back more holding
that head up straight.
Yeah. See?
Look at two alreadywhen I'm right now.
And how much would yourdaughters appreciate that.
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That's so wonderful.
Yeah.
Would your wife do that?
Would she be interested,you think?
I think so.
Absolutely.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's not many guys that arethat are willing to do
ballroom dancing.
Most of them that Imentioned that to do.
You know, most husbands andno, but I would hope that I'd be
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coordinated enough to do it.
I mean that I think that'll bea challenge too.
I mean dancersare so coordinated with their
the control of their body isis really something
to be recognized and respected.
Yeah I'm learning it's it'sdifferent muscles to your work
muscles dancing that you don'tever work so it's a different
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kind of a workout definitely youget out there and try it.
Yeah.
Don't wait till those daughtersgive you their wedding date.
Start now.
Yeah, that'll be fun.
Yeah.
So is there anything new in 2024for you?
Run from a fitness journey.
I want to continueto challenge myself
in different ways.
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As I've said before,I get bored easily with the same
old thing I tend to createwhen I'm on my own.
Create workoutsthat are different every day.
If I'm with somebodylike a trainer, like Nancy,
or if I have a partner and Ihave had those in the past
and am a big fan of that,I generally take the lead
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in creating the workout and it'salways different
hitting the places that we needto hit, but doing it in a less
traditional way.
So I guess my goals for 2024are to continue to
nontraditional in my workouts.
Yeah, I'll be I'll be the samein my creativity, if that makes
any sense.
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I'll be consistentin my inconsistency
of workout styles.
Awesome.
Yeah. Okay.
So when you start thinking aboutthat, that should excite you
so that you want to get backget back to those workouts.
You know, here's here'ssomething fun that we did, Nancy
and I, I embracethe elements rise
above the elements I sayand what I mean by
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that is the weatherthat's outside.
I would encourage on rainy daysthat we would go out
and work out in the rain.
And so one of the thingsthat we did there was a
there was a huge ditchon the campus that we both
worked at, and it filled upwith rainwater one time.
And I said, Look, I said,I want to do push ups
in the ditch in the water.
So you got to you got toexplode out of that water.
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If you've never donea push up in water, try it.
It's it's difficult, especiallyif you do a push up
where you explore, load yourselfout of the water high enough
over the water to make it clapand then catch yourself.
You should go back down.
So that's what I meanby taking something typical.
A push up and figuring outa way to do it a little
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differently.
The challenge is youif you could do, say, 50 push
ups without stoppingand you tried to do it in water,
I challenge you to get ten.
I mean, it's it's that muchdifferent.
And pressure.
The pressure, Yeah, the watercoming down on you.
But can you down, you know,not letting you come out,
you know, trying totrying to fight through that.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
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Yeah.
Did Nancy get in the water too?
She did not know that.
She was like, I'm your trainer.
Go wrong.
So we would take that soccercrossbar, you know, the soccer
goal, the crossbar acrossacross it on a wet day
when it's wet and it's raining.
And we would we would go outand I would jump up
and grab that and thenhand over hand, go the length,
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the crossbar and backand you know, work on your hand
strength plus your core balanceand it's wet so it's harder.
And you know, then do a pull up,you know, in between.
If you could just stop it.
If anybody's listening to thisto this interview today,
if you get anything out of it,maybe it's be creative
with your workouts.
You know, don't don't dothe same thing all the time.
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I Mean we haveto confuse our body anyways.
That's good, right?
You have to break downyour muscles, give it
muscle confusion.
And so if you're if you're doingyour workouts a little
bit differently, you know,creatively, it keeps
you interested.
And it also still, you know,you get the means to the end
of work in your body.
I love your ideas.
Tell us about some more of yourcreative things that you do
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when you work out.
Now, let's see.
I told you about the logs,you know, so, you know, get
pull log, walk throughthe woods, walk in
your backyard, pull a logand put it down and stand on it.
And so so it and it'sgoing to rock that round.
So you got to work on thatcore balance.
And then while you're on it,depending on how comfortable
you feel, maybe puta ball in your hand
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or another log and dothose woodshop or exercises
or do squats on a log back upjust an air squat, don't have to
have any weight with you.
You know, you're workingyour entire body as you were
squatting air because you'retrying to stay balanced
on that log that naturallywants to move back and forth.
That's a fun onegoing up a hill.
And it could be it could besimple as a mound in your yard
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or a park, but using nothingbut your like, your elbows, like
if your legs were paralyzed,you know, do not use
your legs at all.
Your feet, your knees, nothing.
Just pull yourself upthat hill with with your
upper body.
There's a couple of others thatthat I think are fun
that I like to do.
I just want to say that when youwere talking about the log,
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I'm picturing in my mind,have you ever seen on TV
the competitions that theLumberjacks have with
in the water?
They've got the logsin the water and they're
running on the logs and stuff.
But I that's whathe reminded me of.
I have seen that.
And that would be very,very difficult, I think, to do,
especially becausethose logs are wicked wet
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and I don't think they'rewearing shoes with spikes
on them.
So yeah, you could do apull up anywhere, you know,
walk through.
I see beams going across thelike a lot of offices
or whatever have beenbrought across it.
I look at that and I say,if I could jump up there
and do a pull up, wouldn'tthat be fun?
Just look at everything.
Things in everyday life.
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You could do dipsin your office.
And I do this, you know,you take your chair and you
put your feet up on like alike a table or a counter
or a shelf or whatever.
And you take the chairthat you're sitting in and you
and you go to the edge of itwith just your hands
and you do dips, you deep dips,you know, don't go down
to the chair, go past the chair.
You know, it's weirdwhen somebody walks
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by your office and they seeyou doing this, but,
you know, so what?
You don't need a fitnessmembership to keep
yourself in shape.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
You shoes astroworlduse everything that's around you
every day.
Yeah.
And think like a child, right?
I mean, you watch kids,what they do, where they
bounce around, going fromone thing to the next.
You have, you have boys.
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You know, girls arethe same way.
I mean, my granddaughter'sit's incredible.
Especially the the younger one.
She's like a constant gymnast,you know, at home.
We're all crawling up doorways,the frame of doorways
hanging off the side of the bedwith her hands
down on the floor,bringing her feet up to the
back of her head.
Just because, you know,not doing anything special.
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So she's her body isjust constantly, you know,
being challenged.
And it's all stuffthat she comes up
with by herself.
Just think like a kid is amazingwhat she can come up with,
you know?
Yeah. Yeah.
So do you read it all?
It's funny, I, I have a roomin our house.
It's got bookshelves in it,and I buy it at books.
(40:23):
I put them on the bookshelvesand my wife laughs at me.
She goes, Right.
She says, You're not evenyou know, you're
not even reading.
What are you what are you doing?
And I said, Well, somedayI'm going to and I want to have
books in order to do that.
So because my lifehas been so active and so busy
up until this point,the honest answer,
I don't read a lot.
But do I want toI have a curb book right now
(40:45):
called The Boys in the Boat,and it's about the 1936
Olympic team from the Universityof Washington crew team
that went to Germany,Hitler's Olympics in 1936.
And I won't spoil itfor you, but, you know,
it's a great story.
And talk about personal fitnessand talk about natural
personal fitness.
A lot of these guyswere just normal, everyday guys
(41:08):
who came fromthe Washington area who were
lumberjacks or fishermenor different things like that.
And they built upnatural strength in their body
with just doing normaleveryday things.
But the long answerto your question about books, I,
I like to read, I don't readas much as I want to, but I,
I buy a lot of books.
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So one day I have plentyof options.
Very good.
Yeah, a lot of good informationout there and it helps
to inspire us and helpour minds think
in different ways.
Yeah.
All right.
So, Ron, I like to ask my guestto give my listeners
a challenge.
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Go do something to help themlive a better life.
So what would you liketo say to our our listeners?
Figure out a way you can sweatout the poison?
I think all of us, no matterwho we are, whatever age we are,
whatever stagewe're at, life deal
with our own mental anxietiesor pressures, and that us
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physically, if we can figure outeach individual way to sweat out
our own personal poisonsand I do mean sweat.
So find something in your lifethat you will get a good sweat
doing work really hardat whatever that is
on a consistent basisand sweat out the poison.
It's going to make youfeel better, not only
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physically, but mentallyawesome.
I love that.
Good advice.
And when you're sweating outthat poison, you won't be
thinking about anything elsebut your workout.
Nope.
Yeah, you don't.
And when you get done, you just.
You just feel better mentally.
Say that you feelbetter mentally.
When you get done working out,you feel better mentally.
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Now, whether that's just allin your head or if there's
a reality and a truth to it,it really doesn't matter
because all that mattersis how you feel.
You know, it's like thewhat's the pill that they'll
give you?
It's called a that's not reallyanything but a placebo.
It's what people you're right.
But whatever that placebo ora line from my favorite movie,
(43:14):
Bull Durham, one of myfavorite movies
where Kevin Costner says toSusan Sarandon about Timothy
Robbins, who she is having asexual relationship with,
and he has stoppedTimothy Robbins having that
with her because he feelsthat he's pitching better
if he's not having thisrelationship with with
Susan Sarandon.
And Kevin Costner says to her,he says, if if nuclear luge
(43:37):
feels better or feels likehe is winning as a pitcher
because he's not in your bed,then that is what is right this.
Ed So whatever we got togo to mentally, you know, to
make yourselffeel better, do it.
Absolutely.
Love that.
All right.
Well, thank you, Ron,so much for that of the
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time to be on.
And I know that listenersare going to gain some insight
from everything that you'vehad to say.
All right.
Well, thank you so much forhaving me.
This is Angela Grayson from theLoving Life Fitness Podcast.
To help others in their fitnessjourney.
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It’s all possible.
It’s time to wake up.
Here we go.
This is Angela Grayson fromthe Loving Life Fitness Podcast.
To help others in their fitnessjourney.
It's all possible! It’s timeto wake up.
(00:35):
Here we go. Hi, everyone.
This is Angela Grayson from theLoving Life Fitness Podcast,
where we talk to othersabout their life in health
and fitness to help otherstry to live a better life.
So today I have with meRon Jantz who is just an
(00:56):
ordinary guy, just like meand you.
And he's going to tell usabout his journey in fitness
and how his lifestyle worksvery well for him.
So, hi, Ron.
How are you doing?
I am doing great.
Yeah.
So I'm here in Floridaand it's not too cold.
And Ron is over there in Ohio,but he says he likes
the cold weather.
Do you like to work outin the cold weather?
(01:18):
I do, actually.
When I run in the cold,I find that I breathe better.
I my lungs enjoy cold air.
And I know that's not thethat's not the same or the truth
for a lot of folks, but I enjoyrunning in cold air.
Yeah.
You know, they say thatthere's more people that have
heart attacks that exerciseoutdoors in cold weather than
(01:41):
warm weather.
Because I like you for that.
No, but if you feel better,you might be, hey, that person
where it doesn't affect youthat way.
But cold.
They say constrictsare arteries.
So that blood flow supposedly isnot as good.
But if you're in reallygood shape already,
(02:02):
you don't have to probably worryabout that because you
have great blood flow.
Well, I'm trying to stay inI call it relevant shape.
And that's that's always my goalto stay relevant,
relevant, relevant to what?
Relevant to my goals in life.
I always say I havethree reasons for trying
to stay fit.
One First and foremost, health.
(02:24):
I want to stay healthy.
I'm a husband and a father, andI want to be healthy
for my children and my wifeand myself too.
Personal Pride.
I think we all havepersonal pride and
I want to remain, you know, whatI would consider to be
a healthy person, to be someonein shape to to keep that
personal pride up.
And then the third one is,is not really a truth, but it's
(02:47):
more a joke.
I always kid my wife.
The third reason that I work outand try to stay in shape is
so she doesn't find a 2530 yearold to run off with a good one.
Yeah, that would not be nice.
That's where the relevantcomes in.
Personal Pride.
Overall health for myselfand my family.
And then, you know, I mean,we all want to look good, right?
(03:08):
Yeah, of course.
Look good.
Feel good.
You know, it all comes together.
And to be able to do the thingswe want to do in life
for as long as we possibly can.
Having children, you know,that's a good influence on your
children, too.
How old are your kids?
So my kids are 27, 25,23 and 20, and they're
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all physically active as well.
They were all runnersin high school.
They all continue to run.
I you're right.
I Angela, I, I want to seta good example for my children.
And I think that is one ofseveral ways that you can do it
as a parent.
Awesome.
So, Ron, let's go way back towhen you were younger, maybe in
(03:48):
high school or college.
Who were your influences?
How did you get involvedin physical fitness or is that
something that just always camenaturally to you?
Well, I think maybe thefirst influence and I've never
really thought about it,so you just ask that question.
My dad was a carpenter.
He was a guy who used tobuild houses in back in the day
in the sixties and seventies,when three guys build a house,
(04:11):
you'd have, you know, a coupleof carpenters,
you'd have a masonand you'd have a plumber.
And so he was he was physicalevery day of his life,
and he was in good shape.
My dad was a good looking man,in good shape
and in good health.
So, you know, just seeing himalways be in shape probably had
an influence on me that Iwasn't even aware of.
But then whenI got to the school
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and the high schoolspecifically, I was a wrestler.
I wrestled in high school andI wasn't very good.
I was very average,but I was committed to being in
the best shape that I couldpossibly be in.
And plus, I was in high schoolin the late seventies,
early 1980s, and backin those days they had a thing
called the president'sphysical fitness exam, where
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if you could do 120 sit upsand in 120 seconds,
60 pushups, 20 pull ups,and then there was
a shuttle run, I forget whatthe time was, but you could get
a presidential certificate.
And we had a fitness teamat my high school.
I was a part of that.
So with wrestling and tryingto stay in shape to be an
effective wrestler and thenwith the physical fitness team
that I was on, those seedswere sown very early in my life,
(05:18):
like 14, 15 years old.
And the coaches have a lot to dowith that influence, too.
I can remember back in schoolwhen I was in high school also,
you know, being involvedin sports even as far back
as middle school, just greatPE teachers and great coaches
that had a great influenceon my active lifestyle
(05:40):
and that stayed with meall of my life.
Those teachers, well, two of myhigh school wrestling coaches,
Larry Rohan, Tim Daly,I still consider friends today
and they are much older than meobviously, and they are still
in very good shape.
Awesome.
Where do they live?
They're in Ohio also.
One's in Ohio and oneis in Florida.
(06:00):
So the oldest one movedto Florida after he retired
from teaching him and his wifemoved down to Florida for,
you know, warmer weather,better for, I think their
aging bones and you stillkeep in touch with them.
Absolutely.
Wow.
I don't think I've ever heardyou know, people keep in touch
with their high school friendsor childhood friends.
(06:21):
But I don't thinkI've ever heard of anybody
keeping in touchwith their teachers or coaches.
That's awesome.
Well, yeah, when you havea coach that commits to the
to the young people that heor she coaches and you
as an athlete or as a studentor as a young teenager,
really feel that they careabout you and that stays
with you.
And I know myselfas a as a coach of young people
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in athletics, I try to emulatethose same characteristics,
you know, be a part of theirlives, care for them,
be interested in whatthey're doing and stay in touch.
Absolutely.
You're going to have tomake sure you let them know
about this podcast becausethey're going to love hearing
what you're saying about them.
Yeah, Yeah.
So are you a coach now?
(07:04):
No, just with my childrenas they were growing up
and as we've talked about,they're all in their twenties
right now, so they're kind ofaged out of that youth type
athletic environment.
But from the time that my oldestwas five, he's
now 27 til the time that myyoungest was 18.
So that was a stretch of,I don't know, 20 years, I think,
where I coached everythingthat was played and I loved
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every second of it.
Awesome.
That is great.
And what about them?
Do they get involvedin coaching at all?
Well, my son,who's a high school
teacher, is a track and crosscountry coach.
So yes.
And then the other three, oneis just out of college
and starting herprofessional life and two are
still in college and nograndchildren yet to have him.
(07:47):
No, no, no.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
That's a near future.
Yeah, hopefully soon.
My son is engaged.
And so, you know, I think that'svery near in our future.
Exciting times.
Very good.
Okay.
What about struggles?
Can you tell meabout any struggles you've had
in your life to stick toyour healthy lifestyle?
(08:11):
Well, I think the biggeststruggle has been and continues
to be just staying motivated.
And actually, you know,it's funny that you and I
are doing thisat this particular time,
not in the day,but just in my life right now,
because over the lasttwo months, I black motivation
and I'm slipping in myfitness goals and and things
(08:31):
that I want to make surethat I accomplish.
And you know, Angela has asor I should know, I'm 58 years
old, almost 59.
So it's it's harder to getto a certain level.
And it's it's very easy to slipfrom that level and that
it's harder to get even harderto get back to that level.
So I've prided myself instaying at a certain level,
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being consistent in my workoutsand in my commitment and in my
discipline.
And over the last two months,I've really slipped from that
and I need to refocus.
So your question is, too,has there been any trials
or trouble or.
Yeah, right now I'm in oneand so if you have any words
of motivation for meto get me back on it,
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feel free to.
To send them my way.
But I'll be back.
I'm a fairly decentself motivator.
So I do find, though,that having a partner
in your fitness journey isvery helpful because you're
committed to himor her or whomever
your partner is.
And even when you have a bad dayor a morning where you don't
want to work outor an afternoon, depending on
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when you do it, you do itbecause you know they're going
to be there.
You need to show up, you need tosupport them.
And that works.
And it hasn't in my past.
Yeah.
So I was introduced to youby somebody else that I recorded
with recently.
I don't know if you'velistened to my my podcast
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with Nancy Budget.
Yeah, wonderful.
But she was your personaltrainer when she was.
Yes.
And she helped keep youmotivated because you
told her what you wantedand she was able to satisfy you
in that department and youstuck with her and, you know,
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maybe some times that's whatwe need.
You know, if things aren'tyou feel like
things aren't goingright or things you're
getting lazy.
You know, you have to haveto have somebody to commit to
to be there with youfor a while.
The trainers are awesome.
It's just a matter of findingthe right one to fit you.
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Nancy Nice.
It it's a good word.
I challenged her to challenge meand she did that.
I, I am not a traditional styleworkout person.
And what I mean by that,you will not find me in a gym
with weights, just pumpin weight.
I'm not interested in that.
I'm bored with that.
I want to do different things.
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And I told Nancy, I don't wantto spend my time in the
fitness center with weights.
I'm into a lot of bodyweight type stuff.
I'm into unique workouts.
And what I mean by that,balancing on a log while lifting
another log in a wood chopping,you know, format from,
you know, top of your shoulderdown to your ankle and back up
and forth or doing a bearcrawl up a hill, you know,
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those types of things.
And Nancy, I think, really likedthat opportunity to be different
in the workouts that sheplanned for me.
And we did a lot of fun stuffthat kept me interested
and obviously kept me in shape.
Well, you know, you couldalways get a hold of her again.
She can do some long distancetraining with you now at work.
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We remained close.
She is a good motivatorfor me, for sure.
That's great.
So why in the past two monthshave you fallen off the wagon?
What do you.
What do you think is causing us?
You know what?
It's a great question.
And if I.
If I knew the answer,I'd probably fix it.
I think that at Novemberis a difficult personal month
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for me.
I've had both of my parentsin the past have.
That has been the monththat I've lost both of them.
So I have often found my selfin November, you know,
November has never beena friend to me.
So but it's uniquethat I say that because when
I was going throughdifficult times with my parents
health, I found my own fitnessworkouts therapeutic.
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I found that the more I ran,the more I would do
physical exercise,the better I felt.
So this November, though, hasbeen difficult and it's
bled into December and hopefullyit won't bleed into January.
I just need to get backafter it.
You have a magical mix of thingseither going right or wrong
in our lives that lead to eithersuccess or failure.
And right now that magic mixis kind of a negative thing.
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I've talk to you about thatNovember, but then Nancy leaves
a woman who I was very close toas a trainer.
There's a couple of thingsgoing on there that I just need
to figure out, butI have confidence in my stuff.
Awesome.
Yeah.
And, you know, once we startget getting back
into our workoutsand we remember how good
it makes us feel, doesn't takevery long to want to stay
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in that flow again.
You know, I said to you,or I talk to you
about sweating out the poison.
That's how I look at a workoutfrom a therapy standpoint,
mental health as wellas obviously physical health.
I think working outis huge for me mentally.
And and I use the term I'mgoing to sweat out the boys.
I want to sweat when I workout again, I don't want to sit
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at a bench with dumbbellsand just build muscle mass.
I'm not built like that.
I'm long and lean.
I want to stay that way.
I don't think I could be bigeven if I wanted to
be and tried to be.
So I sweat.
I want to do things that whereI'm moving all the time.
I have limited rest.
I have I'll do an exercisein a count my head
for 15 seconds and then go backat it again.
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So I'm getting thatheart rate up of sweating
and that works for me.
Sweat out the poisethat I get out everything
in my body that's mentally,you know, taking me
in a direction that I don'twant to be.
So I sweat, I work hard.
It works for me.
It does.
And when you get to that pointphysically in your workout,
you can't think aboutanything else.
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You're focused on whatyou're doing in order
to get through that workout.
You're right.
And it's also cleansing.
I don't know.
Maybe this is all just my mindcreating this in my my head.
And if that's the case,then that's okay to write
whatever works,whatever gets you to the point
you want to be at mentallyand physically is
what's important.
Yeah.
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And, you know, we needto show ourselves some grace
and take a breakwhen we need to.
But hey, Ron, two monthsis long enough.
Get back to it.
Yeah, I will.
Okay.
Awesome.
Got to stay healthy.
You got to stay strongbecause just like
you were saying,as you get older, it only takes
a short period of time of notmoving around, not using
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your strength, and thingsjust start falling apart
and first it's the body and thenthat has an effect
on the mind also.
And you don't want to bein that boat now.
And you know what?
Well, I think one of the thingsthat's important
for me at my ageand maybe others
at a similar ageis the flexibility that comes
with a consistent workout.
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Your body is remains flexible.
You are stretching more than younormally would.
And when I'm not doing that,when I'm not working out,
when I'm not preparingmy body for workout
or stretching before and after,I feel it, I feel it in
my joints.
I feel it in those air pocketsin my back that, you know,
crack where it sounds likeevery bone in your body
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is cracking.
But I think it's really just theair pockets in between
the joints that makethose noises.
And I feel it in the soreness.
Actually, I would makethe argument that Angela,
I feel more sore my bodywhen I'm not working out
than when I'm working outreally hard.
And that makes it is.
Oh, absolutely doesI know exactly what you're
talking about?
So what do you do forflexibility training?
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Well, back to theunique workouts that I would do
with Nancy.
And even before her back to mywrestling days,
just moving my bodyin abnormal ways.
I mean, I do active stretching.
And I learned this throughcross-country with my children.
And they had a very, very goodcross-country coach.
What I mean by activestretching is
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as I won't sit down in a hurdlerstretch and just stay there
in that stationary positionand do a traditional
hurdler stretch, I will walkand stretch at the same time.
I will have hip rotationin a fluid movement while I'm
leaning up against a treeor something like that.
So active stretching isbig for me, working on
my posture a lot.
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It's been bad.
It affects my lower back.
I think it reallykind of set me back
and I don't mean, you know,having cold it.
What I mean by iswhen when the world shut down
and everybody was workingfrom home and I'm an active guy,
so suddenly I'm workingfrom home and I'm sitting
in a chair looking at acomputer screen every day,
five days a week.
And that hurt my posture,that affected my lower back.
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I'm still trying to get backfrom that, still trying to
change the way I feelin my lower back because of all
that sitting.
I'm an active guy in my job.
I'm a videographerand a photographer and a writer.
I do visual marketingtype stuff, so I'm not
in an office sitting thereat a computer.
But when COVID hit and we wereall forced to and I mean forced,
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forced to do that,it was difficult
physically for me, very hard tostay still.
I can agree with that.
I'm very active personmyself, too.
Always moving around and wantingto do something
different and go.
And it's just hard to sitstill for a long period of time.
Yeah, COVID messed with a lotof people's minds and bodies.
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Definitely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you try to stayactive though, at home?
Yeah, the runninggot me through it.
I mean, I would I would go outand run and that would
sweat out, you know, themental boys and that would
get into your headduring that time.
Absolutely.
That was key for getting throughthat time for me, for sure.
Yeah.
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That's great.
Yeah.
Running at push ups,you know, body
weight type stuff.
Push ups, pull ups, running areprobably my three main fitness
staples and many pull ups.
Can you do it?
I could.
16 probably right nowJust jump up on the bar, do 16
and they're true pull ups.
I will say this is like I'mI am not a fan of the pull ups
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that I see people dowhere they're tipping their body
the entire time.
You're not doing a pull up.
My father was a marine.
You have the MarineCorps pull up where
your hands areover, not under you
Take your body in a straight upand straight down.
Straight up and straight down.
It's not this kip.
And you get a big swing going.
You're not doing a pull.
That's not a pull up.
I thought I soundvery opinionated
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on that. In I am.
No, that's okay.
That's awesome.
Well, somebody tells methey can do tempo ups
and then they jump up on the barand they're kipping and they're
swinging.
I'm like, You're notdoing a pull up that doesn't
even count as one.
If I'm judging you, you haven'teven done one pull up yet.
Give me one good one.
Zach Right.
Just give me one good one.
Let me see if you can do that.
I'll tell you a quick storyabout that.
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My son, all my childrenhave gone to Ohio
State in either their junioror senior year.
I take them up to that schoolup north that's located
in a place called Ann Arborfor that Ohio State game against
that team from up north.
And my senior year,my son's senior
year, we're walkingaround the stadium in Ann Arbor
before the OhioState game against that team
from up north and theMarine Corps is there.
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They're doing a pull up contestand they're giving
out t shirts daily.
But he didn't get 20 pullups.
You you get allthese college kids that are
jumping up there and they'retrying to do pull ups
and they get five or threeor ten or whatever.
And I jump up and I say,I want to try.
So they said, Go ahead.
So I get two, I get to 90and and these guys are just
blown away.
I think these two Marines areblown away.
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These two like 22 yearold guys that this this 50
something guy has just done19 pull ups and I couldn't
get to 20.
I couldn't get to 20.
I couldn't go straight back up.
I just couldn't do it.
I'd get about halfway upand I just couldn't do it.
And I dropped in the bar and andthey gave me it gave me
to a t shirt, which I thoughtwas pretty cool.
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So.
Slide 19 that is.
Sure. Yeah.
You said be so tell meabout all aspects of your
healthy lifestyle, because it'snot just about working out
and staying all right.
I try to eat right and I'll saywhat I'm about to say.
I'm not being judgmental at all.
I just I don't drink.
It's not because I look poorlyon people to do I That's not
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the case at all.
I just choose not to drinkbecause it's something
that's not for me.
And I think Angela,that has helped me
with my weight over the years,never been a beer drinker.
I haven't had to dealwith drinking beer, adding
weight to my body.
I don't drink, pop.
I did when I was in myearly twenties.
I was in a job as a sportsreporter at a television station
in the Cleveland market,where I was working nights,
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weekends, holidays,night, late nights, you know,
lots of pressure deadlines.
And I drink a lot of Coca-Cola.
I drank a lot of coke in myearly twenties, and that was
not good for me.
So I stopped in my latetwenties, Don't drink
alcohol, don't drink pop.
Potato chips are my worstvice in life.
We all have a vicein life, right?
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Mine is potato chips.
I am addicted to them.
I cannot put them down. Lookit up to me and I would fail
every time because I would.
I would eat the chip.
But I tried to do thatin moderation,
try to eat healthy.
Obviously, you know, we allfail sometimes.
Maybe that's part of my lasttwo months.
It's been the holiday seasonand I've been eating things
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that I don't typically eat.
But you're right, it's not justphysical fitness.
I try to eat healthy.
I wouldn't say that I'm really,you know, off the charts
with it, but I do pay attentionto what I eat.
I don't eat fast food.
You won't find me at McDonald'sor Burger King or any of
those places.
Fast food to me,the worst comment I think
that I do have would be a subat subway with a bag of chips.
I stay away from OP, I stay awayfrom beer, I fail
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at eating late.
I do eat late because of ourlifestyle and our family.
I will oftentimes eat dinner
at 9 (22:18):
00 at night and then go to bed an hour, which I know
is bad.
I think that's one thingthat I have to change.
But my lifestyle doesn't reallyallow me to do that.
So I pay attentionto what I eat, I pay
attention to what I drink.
I try to do thingslike photography is a big part
of my mental physicalhealth journey.
I get out.
As a matter of fact,I am at a place right now
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where I'm on Lake Erie as youand I talk, and there are
seagulls that are just flyingall around me.
They're here to try to eatthe little minnows that are up
on the water trying tofind bugs.
And so I get out therapeuticallyin nature.
I get lost in the woods.
I climb a mountain or a hill.
I get I go along a streamor an old stone quarry and just
and just lose myself.
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And mentally that helps me too.
So you asked what were somethings that I do to stay healthy
other than the typical things ofworking out?
Those are thingsand photography's
a huge part of it.
I get lost in nature.
Nature is important to me.
I breathe better.
I feel betterwhen I'm in nature.
Very nice.
Do you live near Lake Erie?
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I do.
I live I live threeand a half blocks
from Lake Erie.
Wow.
Very cool.
What's that like?
It's beautiful.
I do not take it for granted.
I see many sunsets and I seemany sunrises views.
And I find beauty.
Even in the gray cold days,which we are in right now
in northeastern Ohio.
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It's been real foggy here latelybecause the temperatures
have been kind of fluctuatingbetween warm and cold.
And and that mix with the waterand the warmer temperatures
of the water, the cooler air,you know, sometimes creates fog.
I get out at nightand I find beauty
even in the fog.
I mean, you can find beautyeven in fog and gray days
if you look for it.
Sure.
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Absolutely.
A rainy day.
Yeah.
Light storms, it doesn't haveto be sunny and gorgeous
outside.
It's so good for the mindand the soul to be out
in nature.
It's gets you to a meditativestate.
Especially when you're aloneout there.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
You're in your own thoughts.
My wife laughs because I'llwhen I'll come back
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from something, she'll sayhow to go, and I'll say, Well,
there was this person who stolemy silence.
I don't know if I createdthe terms, Don't
steal my silence or or a stealerof silence, but the example
I'll be out in the woods,you know, enjoying
the quiet moments of the windor the rustling of the leaves
or the pitter patter ofa squirrel running over,
you know, the pine cones.
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And then somebody will comewalking along and they're
talking on their cell phone.
And not only are they talking ontheir cell phone, but they got
the speaker on.
So I can hear everythingthey're saying and then I can
hear everything that the personthey're talking to is saying.
And and I call those silentstealers.
And I don't know why.
If you're out in the middleof the woods trying to
enjoy nature, that you haveyour cell phone
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on, talking on it.
And again, that's just mebeing opinionated
about something like that.
But my wife chuckles at me.
She thinks I'moverly opinionated on that type
of thing, but I don't supportviolence.
You agree with that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was with a frienda couple of years back.
We went on a trip tothree places Grand Canyon, Zion
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and Bryce Bryce National Park,and I had to tell her,
When are you going to putthat phone away?
It's like, put it away and enjoythe time that that's
You're here.
We can talk later.
Doesn't have to be that way.
But so many people do do thatand they're not focusing on
the moment where they areand taking it all in.
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You can't you can't if you'reon the phone with another
human being who's not therewith you, enjoy it.
Right.
You don't know when you're goingto do it again.
You don't know what's goingto happen next out there
in nature.
I always say in order to enjoythe moment, you've got to be
in the moment.
And what I mean by that is,is what you just said,
you know, be focusedin the moment, but also
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put yourself out there.
Don't spend time sitting infront of your computer
at all and go outand go for a hike, take a walk.
Just simple things.
Go sit in your backyard,watch the birds fly around.
I tell my kids this, Angela,walk through your life
with your head up and your eyeswide open and you'll
be surprised at what you may seeif you think of
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how you get to work every day.
Angela Or how you go tothe grocery store or what
Think of somethingtypical in your day and how
you got there If the next day,what if you do it and you have
your eyes wide open inyour head up and you're not
solely focusedon getting to work,
or the first thing you got to dowhen you get there and you
actually observe what'sgoing on around you
and the things that you passevery day, you may see
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some things that you'll go,Oh my God, I never knew
that was there.
Oh my gosh, look how prettythat is.
I never have noticedthat before.
We're all guilty of it.
I know I have been.
And I work really hardnot to be.
I try to encourage my children.
Walk through life with your headup and your eyes wide open.
Absolutely.
Okay.
I wanted to go back.
You had mentioned somethingabout posture.
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How do you work on your posture?
All right.
Well, you just mentioned it.
I adjusted the way I'm sittingin my right.
You know, there's a personin my life who has dealt
with my posture.
And she took me to the woodshedabout a month ago on
And what I mean by that wasvery aggressively
telling me that I have notbeen paying attention to her
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and not been have not beena good patient.
And she was right.
How do I deal with posture?
I, I tend to slumpwhen I'm seated and like kind of
like your back.
The spine is supposed to be likelike a it's like a seahorse,
you know, like an ass.
It's not supposed to belike an arch,
you know, hump minebecause of the way that I sit
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or to lean forward all the time.
Bad posture.
When I walk, I tend to,for some reason,
squeeze my shoulderblades together.
Like, you know, when you'recold, Angela, and you kind of
bring your shoulders up,kind of like, you know,
near your jaw or your earsand it tighten your body.
I find myself walking like thata lot, and I don't know why.
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Bad posture.
My favorite way to sleepis on my belly.
Bad for your posture, badfor your lower back,
bad for your spine.
So these are all musclememory habits, body habits
every day.
This is the way you doit, you know, and we all know
that when you breaksomething down,
you try to fix it or you tryto change it.
It takes time.
And so posture has beena constant struggle for me.
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And as I grew older, itit affects my lower back
and that then in turn affectsmy ankles, It affects my feet,
it affects my neck, and then upthrough my neck and out
the back of my upmy back of my head.
Now, through mymy right high ball.
I mean, there's itposture is it's the thread
for everything in your body.
It really is.
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Yeah.
Everything is connectedof course.
And that's why it affectsso many different things.
I've I've noticed that men moreso as they get older.
And I know, of courseit has something
to do with gravity, but they'renot aware.
They're not aware of how they'reslouching in their heads
are coming forward.
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I've worked with so many peopleas a personal trainer trying to
get them to just stand upagainst the wall
and take their arms up and downand they can't even keep
their arms back against the wallas they go up, because having
those rounded shouldersbecomes such a permanent thing
for them, they don't evenrealize it.
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Don't look in the mirrorand notice it.
And it's not until you starthaving issues like you
were saying with your back,with your ankles, with your neck
and your shoulders, everythinggoing forward.
You know, you may start pinchingsome nerves.
And it's it's very importantto stay on top of that posture
and try to do thingsto correct it.
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I started taking ballroomdancing classes last year.
It's been a year now, and that'ssomething that that really helps
with posture.
You have to stand up straightfor that type of dancing.
And if you don't, you can'tdance correctly.
And what a way to beconstantly aware
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of what's going onwith your posture.
And you try to correctthat when you do your strength
and strengthening the musclesin the back of the body
to help yourself come back againtakes time.
Your body doesn't feel naturalwhen you sit up straight right?
Right.
You just said something thathit home for me and it's
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the weakest part of my body.
The muscles in the backpart of my body lower back,
my back in general always havebeen weakest.
Part of my body continues to be.
And I think, Angela,it's the reason for or well,
one of the reasonsfor bad posture but
it's also weak backmuscles is also you know
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it's a reason for bad posture.
But it's it's also a it's aresult of bad posture.
It's one of the thingsNancy worked out
with me with was, you know, backexercises, back strengthening
as I grew older.
I want to have that core,that strong core, especially in
my back.
And you're exactly right.
I'm weak back thereand it affects me in many ways.
Yeah.
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So many people, when they workon their core, they're so spoke
just on the frontof their right.
And that's an imbalance.
You know, if you've gotthe front of the body
strengthened, the back ofthe body is suffering.
So we've got to strengthenthose muscles in the back
of the body so the frontstretches and opens up.
You feel better,you breathe better,
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you look better.
Yeah.
The other thing ismaybe you should take up
ballroom dancing.
You need You canexperience that.
I would like that.
You know, I have three daughtersand a son and three daughters.
And one day when thosethree daughters get married,
I want to be a very good dancerin the father daughter dance.
And I.
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You saying ballroom dancing?
I One of my goals in lifeis to become a good dancer,
or at least a representa ball dancer, someone that
will know and embarrasshis children.
And as those three girlsget to the age where they're
going to be, where marriage isin their future, I want to be
a good dancer.
So maybe if it helps my posture,then it's a double win
for me, right?
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I guarantee you it'll makeyou more aware of your posture,
not only while you're dancing,but out in the real world
every day, too.
You'll be more aware of it.
You'll be holding thoseshoulders back more holding
that head up straight.
Yeah. See?
Look at two alreadywhen I'm right now.
And how much would yourdaughters appreciate that.
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That's so wonderful.
Yeah.
Would your wife do that?
Would she be interested,you think?
I think so.
Absolutely.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's not many guys that arethat are willing to do
ballroom dancing.
Most of them that Imentioned that to do.
You know, most husbands andno, but I would hope that I'd be
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coordinated enough to do it.
I mean that I think that'll bea challenge too.
I mean dancersare so coordinated with their
the control of their body isis really something
to be recognized and respected.
Yeah I'm learning it's it'sdifferent muscles to your work
muscles dancing that you don'tever work so it's a different
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kind of a workout definitely youget out there and try it.
Yeah.
Don't wait till those daughtersgive you their wedding date.
Start now.
Yeah, that'll be fun.
Yeah.
So is there anything new in 2024for you?
Run from a fitness journey.
I want to continueto challenge myself
in different ways.
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As I've said before,I get bored easily with the same
old thing I tend to createwhen I'm on my own.
Create workoutsthat are different every day.
If I'm with somebodylike a trainer, like Nancy,
or if I have a partner and Ihave had those in the past
and am a big fan of that,I generally take the lead
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in creating the workout and it'salways different
hitting the places that we needto hit, but doing it in a less
traditional way.
So I guess my goals for 2024are to continue to
nontraditional in my workouts.
Yeah, I'll be I'll be the samein my creativity, if that makes
any sense.
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I'll be consistentin my inconsistency
of workout styles.
Awesome.
Yeah. Okay.
So when you start thinking aboutthat, that should excite you
so that you want to get backget back to those workouts.
You know, here's here'ssomething fun that we did, Nancy
and I, I embracethe elements rise
above the elements I sayand what I mean by
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that is the weatherthat's outside.
I would encourage on rainy daysthat we would go out
and work out in the rain.
And so one of the thingsthat we did there was a
there was a huge ditchon the campus that we both
worked at, and it filled upwith rainwater one time.
And I said, Look, I said,I want to do push ups
in the ditch in the water.
So you got to you got toexplode out of that water.
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If you've never donea push up in water, try it.
It's it's difficult, especiallyif you do a push up
where you explore, load yourselfout of the water high enough
over the water to make it clapand then catch yourself.
You should go back down.
So that's what I meanby taking something typical.
A push up and figuring outa way to do it a little
(35:40):
differently.
The challenge is youif you could do, say, 50 push
ups without stoppingand you tried to do it in water,
I challenge you to get ten.
I mean, it's it's that muchdifferent.
And pressure.
The pressure, Yeah, the watercoming down on you.
But can you down, you know,not letting you come out,
you know, trying totrying to fight through that.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
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Yeah.
Did Nancy get in the water too?
She did not know that.
She was like, I'm your trainer.
Go wrong.
So we would take that soccercrossbar, you know, the soccer
goal, the crossbar acrossacross it on a wet day
when it's wet and it's raining.
And we would we would go outand I would jump up
and grab that and thenhand over hand, go the length,
(36:23):
the crossbar and backand you know, work on your hand
strength plus your core balanceand it's wet so it's harder.
And you know, then do a pull up,you know, in between.
If you could just stop it.
If anybody's listening to thisto this interview today,
if you get anything out of it,maybe it's be creative
with your workouts.
You know, don't don't dothe same thing all the time.
(36:45):
I Mean we haveto confuse our body anyways.
That's good, right?
You have to break downyour muscles, give it
muscle confusion.
And so if you're if you're doingyour workouts a little
bit differently, you know,creatively, it keeps
you interested.
And it also still, you know,you get the means to the end
of work in your body.
I love your ideas.
Tell us about some more of yourcreative things that you do
(37:06):
when you work out.
Now, let's see.
I told you about the logs,you know, so, you know, get
pull log, walk throughthe woods, walk in
your backyard, pull a logand put it down and stand on it.
And so so it and it'sgoing to rock that round.
So you got to work on thatcore balance.
And then while you're on it,depending on how comfortable
you feel, maybe puta ball in your hand
(37:27):
or another log and dothose woodshop or exercises
or do squats on a log back upjust an air squat, don't have to
have any weight with you.
You know, you're workingyour entire body as you were
squatting air because you'retrying to stay balanced
on that log that naturallywants to move back and forth.
That's a fun onegoing up a hill.
And it could be it could besimple as a mound in your yard
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or a park, but using nothingbut your like, your elbows, like
if your legs were paralyzed,you know, do not use
your legs at all.
Your feet, your knees, nothing.
Just pull yourself upthat hill with with your
upper body.
There's a couple of others thatthat I think are fun
that I like to do.
I just want to say that when youwere talking about the log,
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I'm picturing in my mind,have you ever seen on TV
the competitions that theLumberjacks have with
in the water?
They've got the logsin the water and they're
running on the logs and stuff.
But I that's whathe reminded me of.
I have seen that.
And that would be very,very difficult, I think, to do,
especially becausethose logs are wicked wet
(38:34):
and I don't think they'rewearing shoes with spikes
on them.
So yeah, you could do apull up anywhere, you know,
walk through.
I see beams going across thelike a lot of offices
or whatever have beenbrought across it.
I look at that and I say,if I could jump up there
and do a pull up, wouldn'tthat be fun?
Just look at everything.
Things in everyday life.
(38:56):
You could do dipsin your office.
And I do this, you know,you take your chair and you
put your feet up on like alike a table or a counter
or a shelf or whatever.
And you take the chairthat you're sitting in and you
and you go to the edge of itwith just your hands
and you do dips, you deep dips,you know, don't go down
to the chair, go past the chair.
You know, it's weirdwhen somebody walks
(39:17):
by your office and they seeyou doing this, but,
you know, so what?
You don't need a fitnessmembership to keep
yourself in shape.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
You shoes astroworlduse everything that's around you
every day.
Yeah.
And think like a child, right?
I mean, you watch kids,what they do, where they
bounce around, going fromone thing to the next.
You have, you have boys.
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You know, girls arethe same way.
I mean, my granddaughter'sit's incredible.
Especially the the younger one.
She's like a constant gymnast,you know, at home.
We're all crawling up doorways,the frame of doorways
hanging off the side of the bedwith her hands
down on the floor,bringing her feet up to the
back of her head.
Just because, you know,not doing anything special.
(40:02):
So she's her body isjust constantly, you know,
being challenged.
And it's all stuffthat she comes up
with by herself.
Just think like a kid is amazingwhat she can come up with,
you know?
Yeah. Yeah.
So do you read it all?
It's funny, I, I have a roomin our house.
It's got bookshelves in it,and I buy it at books.
(40:23):
I put them on the bookshelvesand my wife laughs at me.
She goes, Right.
She says, You're not evenyou know, you're
not even reading.
What are you what are you doing?
And I said, Well, somedayI'm going to and I want to have
books in order to do that.
So because my lifehas been so active and so busy
up until this point,the honest answer,
I don't read a lot.
But do I want toI have a curb book right now
(40:45):
called The Boys in the Boat,and it's about the 1936
Olympic team from the Universityof Washington crew team
that went to Germany,Hitler's Olympics in 1936.
And I won't spoil itfor you, but, you know,
it's a great story.
And talk about personal fitnessand talk about natural
personal fitness.
A lot of these guyswere just normal, everyday guys
(41:08):
who came fromthe Washington area who were
lumberjacks or fishermenor different things like that.
And they built upnatural strength in their body
with just doing normaleveryday things.
But the long answerto your question about books, I,
I like to read, I don't readas much as I want to, but I,
I buy a lot of books.
(41:29):
So one day I have plentyof options.
Very good.
Yeah, a lot of good informationout there and it helps
to inspire us and helpour minds think
in different ways.
Yeah.
All right.
So, Ron, I like to ask my guestto give my listeners
a challenge.
(41:49):
Go do something to help themlive a better life.
So what would you liketo say to our our listeners?
Figure out a way you can sweatout the poison?
I think all of us, no matterwho we are, whatever age we are,
whatever stagewe're at, life deal
with our own mental anxietiesor pressures, and that us
(42:10):
physically, if we can figure outeach individual way to sweat out
our own personal poisonsand I do mean sweat.
So find something in your lifethat you will get a good sweat
doing work really hardat whatever that is
on a consistent basisand sweat out the poison.
It's going to make youfeel better, not only
(42:31):
physically, but mentallyawesome.
I love that.
Good advice.
And when you're sweating outthat poison, you won't be
thinking about anything elsebut your workout.
Nope.
Yeah, you don't.
And when you get done, you just.
You just feel better mentally.
Say that you feelbetter mentally.
When you get done working out,you feel better mentally.
(42:53):
Now, whether that's just allin your head or if there's
a reality and a truth to it,it really doesn't matter
because all that mattersis how you feel.
You know, it's like thewhat's the pill that they'll
give you?
It's called a that's not reallyanything but a placebo.
It's what people you're right.
But whatever that placebo ora line from my favorite movie,
(43:14):
Bull Durham, one of myfavorite movies
where Kevin Costner says toSusan Sarandon about Timothy
Robbins, who she is having asexual relationship with,
and he has stoppedTimothy Robbins having that
with her because he feelsthat he's pitching better
if he's not having thisrelationship with with
Susan Sarandon.
And Kevin Costner says to her,he says, if if nuclear luge
(43:37):
feels better or feels likehe is winning as a pitcher
because he's not in your bed,then that is what is right this.
Ed So whatever we got togo to mentally, you know, to
make yourselffeel better, do it.
Absolutely.
Love that.
All right.
Well, thank you, Ron,so much for that of the
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time to be on.
And I know that listenersare going to gain some insight
from everything that you'vehad to say.
All right.
Well, thank you so much forhaving me.
This is Angela Grayson from theLoving Life Fitness Podcast.
To help others in their fitnessjourney.
(44:23):
It’s all possible.
It’s time to wake up.
Here we go.
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