March 4, 2024 • 52 mins
Tony Cerullo shares his story with the help of a special guest Co-Host Rick DeTata. This episode brings us a new topic we have not yet explored, which has to do with Gestalt emotions that form in early childhood and create the person in you who interacts in the world every day. His certification in Neurolinguistic Programming allows him to help people release their baggage and programming that create negative responses to everyday situations. In addition to this vast topic, Tony goes into his own personal wellbeing and how he makes the best of himself each day. Contact Tony at EmpowermentbyTony.com
Tony is a Certified Master Practitioner of Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP), a Personal Coach, a Certified Hypnotherapist and a Certified Master Practitioner of Mental and Emotional Release Therapy. He returned to triathlon training in June 2023. The first events were in November and December where he won 3rd place in the Sun Devil Classic, which qualified him for the world championships for draft legal sprint triathlon in Spain. In his second triathlon, Anthem Holiday Classic, he won first in his age group and 12th place overall in the men’s division. His next events are February 24th and April 28th. The 28th of April will be his first attempt at a longer Olympic distance triathlon. Tony works out six days a week for between 8-12 hours a week which includes swimming, biking and running intervals and longer distances. It keeps him energized and healthy!
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(00:11):
This is Angela Grayson fromthe Loving Life Fitness Podcast.
To help others in their fitnessjourney.
It's all possible.
(00:31):
It’s time to wake up.
Here we go.
Hello, everyone.
This is Angela Graysonfrom the Loving Life
Fitness Podcast.
We're here todaywith Rick DeTata my co-host.
First time I have a co-hoston the show.
I'm really excited about thedynamic today.
(00:52):
Our guest is Tony Cerullo whoI guess I should tell
you is my cousin.
And I'm so proud of himand all that he's
accomplished in his lifeand in health and fitness.
Hey, Tony, how you doing?
I'm good.
Hey, thanks for thenice intro, Angel.
Awesome.
Hey, Rick.
How are you doing today?
(01:12):
Good.
How are you?
Glad to be here.
I'm happy to be here, too,with you guys.
This is exciting.
All right, so, Tony, let's getstarted on you.
Tell us about your background.
I know that you'rea pathologist.
You also sent me informationthat you’re now a
master practitioner of neurallinguistic programing, which
(01:36):
I've never heard of before,but I can't wait to hear
about it.
Let's start from the beginning,where you were born,
where you grew up,and where you went to college.
I was born in New York's oldPatchogue, New York, and raised
in Casper, Wyoming.
So nice to you.
My folks moved out to Casper.
And if you've never been toWyoming, well, it is a
(01:59):
shock to the system.
It's super, super cold.
And the winter and the summersare nice.
They're nice, but you wishit was a longer version.
I grew up there and always hada desire to do something
in biology.
I wasn't really quite sure.
I think we all kind of start offon a different port
(02:20):
and just venture outin different areas.
I think I was a marine by all.
IGY was my first major interest.
I ended up going onthe pre-med track and realizing
that I wasn't quite surea doctor was quite
what I wanted to do,but I thought health care
was still pretty cool.
(02:41):
So moved into med lab scienceand went on to get
my master's degree in biology.
And so I am a certifiedpathologist assistant.
And what they do is examineall tissue that come out of
the operating room.
So it could be anything from,you know, a GI biopsy
(03:03):
from a colonoscopy to a breastthat someone has
had were removed for cancer,mastectomy or colon.
So I would examineall of those later in my career.
I shifted into health careadministration.
So I'm an executive now,not a laboratory in Arizona,
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a major laboratory in Arizona.
And I am over 30 hospitalsurgical pathology laboratories,
as well as a large referenceanatomic pathology laboratory
that's literallya football field.
LONG And as cytologyflows, cytometry, really,
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and all service.
So that's what I do currently.
That's easy for you to say, butwow, it's an amazing bio
you have there.
But I mean, what do you do?
You could could you change waterinto wine?
To what else?
Yeah, I can.
No.
Yeah, sure, I'm sure.
You write hard enough.
Let me ask a question.
Explain what?
(04:06):
Angel said that the neuronarrowly lost.
Yeah.
Does that mean you speak Klingonor something? What?
What does that mean?
Yeah.
So we all have some strugglesin life, and I think that trying
to get to a place where we arefunction anything from a place
of accountability.
Right.
(04:26):
And my wife now cherry plot,he is very adventurous
and so she found this trainingin neuro linguistic programing
and it intrigued me.
And so essentiallywhat it entails is, is looking
at your subconsciousmind, right?
(04:46):
So from 0 to 10 years old,we are essentially trained
in our behavior,from our experiences
in our subconscious.
So from 0 to 10,if you think about that, you're
in a different kind ofa wavelength.
You're in what we callan alpha wavelength or a
theta wavelength or inthat time period.
(05:08):
So that's why you believe inSanta Clause and cartoon ads
are really cooland all that stuff.
You're very impressionableat that time.
So anything you learnat that point of your life
really affects who you grow upto be, who, how you be in
and specific instances.
And what I like to call outprobably has the most impression
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is any gestalt.
So against all it is,if you have an experience
attached to an emotion.
So if your mom says to youwhen you you got a new toy,
oh, you look more articulatelyhappy today, you go, Oh, well,
that's the first timeI've ever recalled knowing
what happiness felt like.
So that moment is a good stall.
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The thing we have to be onthe lookout for is negative
emotion.
So fear, sadness, grief.
Any of those emotions, anxietyand the gestalt associated
with them.
So however, some fearthat negative emotion is
at the time and that yourecognize it at the
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gestalt affects who you areand how you react to situations.
Say you have a relationshipand your significant other
tends to want to leave youwhen you're in an argument
or something like that.
If you had an abandonmentin that 0 to 10 age range, your
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subconscious mind has createda pattern and how
you will react.
And there are chances arethere are trauma associated
with that mental trauma.
You may react really badlyin that moment.
A normal person would be like,okay, if you want to leave, but
somebody with a lot of traumawould totally lose it
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in terms of their emotions,you know, be completely
and proportionatelysad or whatever in that
type of mind frame.
So what, Marilyn?
GROSS That programing didis that helps people to get
rid of baggage, that trauma.
So there are certain toolsthat you can use that will
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really stop and that you willreact more normally.
It takes discipline, though.
Everything takescommitment and time.
And that is kind ofin a nutshell what neuro
linguistic programing does.
Wow.
So bottom line, you're sayingcartoons are cool anymore.
So at the center, getting ridof baggage And how would you
go about doing that besidesgetting divorced?
(07:42):
It's been if you can explainthat real quick.
I'm not trying to overstep you,but I'm just.
Oh, sure.
Go ahead.
Those are good, great questions.
I'm exactly whatI had in my mind.
So go ahead, Sonia.
How do you deal with that?
Yeah, I think that is the trick.
So first the first step isyou have to realize
that there is a problem, right?
(08:02):
You have to be accountablefor yourself.
The thing that I like to do isyou're not affected
by the outside world.
Your perception of the worldcomes from inside.
So you have enough innerstrength to go, okay,
I've got something I need todeal with here.
It's not my wife, my sister,my brother, my mom.
It's not my job.
(08:23):
It's not whatever.
It's me.
I have to do the work.
It's what I have control on.
There is this phrasecalled cause and effect.
All right, So causeand effect means
if you're a cause, you'retaking ownership for your life.
You're the one that's going tobe responsible.
If it's a fact, you're goingto be a victim,
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you're going to bein the blame state.
You don't want to be a victimever.
You want to be at causeyou want to take ownership, be
empowered in your day today life.
So that's really the first step.
You have to acknowledgeyou need help.
You have to want to be empoweredthe next step.
There are several ways to do it,but the way that we do
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it, narrow linguisticprograming, it's called mental
emotional release,which is I phrase
that kind of a semihypnotic type treatment modality
or a timeline type therapywhere you actually go back
into your timeline of your lifeand you'll revisit events,
(09:26):
feel the emotionsurrounding that.
And believe it or not, asI walk folks through this,
it will separate the emotionfrom the event.
So they'll see the eventfor what it is, if it's an
extremely sad event.
So, for instance,I lost a brother when I was
seven years old and he was hitby a car and that caused
(09:48):
extreme trauma inside of thatI was probably incapable
of dealing with when I wasseven years old.
So when I went through a mentalor emotional release,
I went back to that eventand I was able to release
the guilt.
I had a lot of guilt associatedwith that and it was completely
(10:10):
disproportional.
And the first timeI went through it, I was like
almost a lunatic in therebecause I was so sad
and so distraught from therecollection of that event.
But I was able with some work,you know, and help actually from
my wife.
She's one that walked methrough the mental emotional
release therapy at that timeI was able to release.
(10:32):
Now I can deal withit proportionally if I go see
my brother's headstonein Wyoming.
Now, I may have some tears,but I'm able to deal with it
in a good mannerAs to where before
I would put up a big shield,I wouldn't have any
emotional reaction.
Like I would be like, Oh,there's a headstone, you know,
(10:53):
or there's, you know, that'swhere Gene's buried.
Now I have a much more healthyinteraction.
I'm able to experiencethe feelings, release them after
I appropriately experiencethe emotion I should feel.
So when I've everlost a loved one starting from
way back when.
When my grandmother passed away,and also my grandfather
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and my dad, I didn't cry.
Took a long time to cry.
It's like, why?
Why is that?
Do you think there's somethinggoing on there?
I do.
You know, absolutely.
And I think that when youare from 0 to 10,
you were taught that sadnessshould not show
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a display of tearsor I be strong.
Yeah, be strong.
Right.
And so through through time,that has every time
you experience sadness, that'srecapitulated itself
over and over again forever,that's built in
it's muscle memory.
It's just how you react.
(11:59):
Yeah.
Let me ask you one thing.
So what do you do in a situationwhere a bad situation is more
of a relief for you?
For example, my motherwas sick for years.
You know, she was bedriddenand we were we were
caretakers for her.
But when she did pass,it was like it was a relief.
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Thank God she's out of pain.
And I never cried because it wasalways a preparation for this
was going to happen one day.
So how do you how would youaccount for that?
Because I never did crybecause it like I said,
it was a relief for me that sheshe's finally out of pain.
I had more of a happy momentfor me that she's that she's
she's not wearing a neck collar.
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She's not bedridden andand she's gone and then
she's out of that pain,you know, because I used to
visit her every dayand we just terrible to see her
like that.
So how do you how do youis there something deep
inside me that may one daycome out?
You know what I mean?
That I'll have a release ofof emotion later on.
Possibly, Rick.
You know that.
That's a great question.
I don't know that tears arealways necessary to experience
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the emotion, right?
So I would say we all do itin a different way.
What I would say isI could run you through this
right now is that when you havethat moment of sadness, if
you allow yourselfto experience it, and then
wherever resonates in your body,so say you have anxiety.
(13:31):
I mean, some people feel liketheir throats cut off
or they can breathe as well.
Or maybe they feel like,you know, Archer,
you know, things like that,you want to you want to be able
to go, okay, I have this thoughtin your case,
it would be the lossof your mom.
I have this thought and thenit generates an emotion.
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And so the emotionis going to be some sort of
hormonal physicallogic reaction.
It's not going to be it's not abig secret.
You know, if you havea situation where you're in
fear, it's fight or flight.
Right?
You may have an adrenalinerush to me or whatever
the whole trickis to in that moment
that thought, oh, I lost my mom,why am I not crying?
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Where's the emotion?
Is that emotion of happinessfor her, or is I, you know,
pure sadness?
You can see and feel thatin your body somewhere,
as long as you allow yourselfto experience
that group, really, and feel itfor a few minutes,
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that detaches the thought fromthe emotion and then you can
eventually in 90 seconds is whatthe terminology or the
thought is on this.
So that's how long it takesfor your body to to process
through all the hormonesthat you may have accumulated
during that time.
Once those hormones slide you,then you are kind of through
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the event.
The thoughts calm, the emotionsgo on, you process it
in a healthy mannerand you're fine.
So I would say in your state,as long as you're confident
that there's nothing else thereand you're allowing yourself
to feel that emotion and processthrough it effectively
probably won't harm that issue.
Yeah, I think yourtraumatic experience has blocked
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things out too, becauseI was a firefighter and I was
at the fire station when shepassed away, so I got the call.
But she lived an hour and a halfaway from the fire station.
Well, she was in a hospice and Iwould have talked to this day,
I do not recallthat hour and a half drive up
the turnpike.
One minute I was at the firestation and it's like
the next minute I woke up, I wasat her bedside.
(15:44):
To this day, I do rememberthe hour and a half
drive whatsoever.
I just don't it's kind of likefreaked me out that I could,
like, drive 70 miles an hourfor an hour and a half
and not recall any of that.
I guess just your mindblanks out at certain emotions.
Jamal Yeah, thatself-hypnosis you are in
self-hypnosis.
I don't know if you're familiarwith that.
I read about it.
Yes, Yes.
(16:04):
Yeah.
You put yourselfin a hypnotic state.
Yeah.
Like I said to this day,what you, what, ten years later,
you're Angel.
Yeah.
And so putting yourself ina hypnotic state,
is that because we're tryingto protect ourselves
from those emotions, or is iteven, like, dangerous?
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You're driving.
I can remember drivingplaces, my mind being
somewhere else, and it's like,Oh my gosh, how did I get
here so fast?
You know, it's a dangerous.
That's a great question.
Actually.
It's not.
Being the reason why it's nondangerous is it's not like
you're asleep, right?
You have drivena car so many times
on the same roads repeatedly.
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It's like playing a musicalinstrument.
If you guys are into thator if you I don't know what you
what you do that you love todo A lot For me, I like to play
the guitar.
And if I learned a songand I know how to play it,
I don't have to think aboutthe chords anymore.
They just I'm playing itand it just works.
Same with driving a car.
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After a while,it's the same thing.
So yeah, exactly what you said.
Your thoughts captivated youto the point where that's
all you're focused on,and that's a state
of self-hypnosis.
Mm hmm.
Okay.
That's interesting.
And you teach people how toplay responsibility
for their actionsand their emotions.
(17:30):
Is that what you do?
You teach thatbecause in a world today,
a world of theyounger generation
of entitlement and victimhood,everybody's a victim.
Nobody wants totake responsibility
for their actions,not just in society we live in.
That's got to be hard to teachpeople that, you know,
it's a desire for methat part of what I do,
like take it off.
It's more of something.
I'll provide the familyI meaning for you.
(17:52):
You and Tik Tok videos are that.
Explain some of these things.
I want to do a lot more.
But yeah, that's an areaI would really
like to expand it.
Yeah, a lot of peopledon't know how or don't
take the time to sitwith their emotions
just to be able to sit backand relax and stare out
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at the ocean or your gardenand sit with your emotions
and see what comes up.
A lot of people don't do that.
They're scared to do it.
It's so importantto just listen to
what's going on in youryour heart, your mind
and your body.
Absolutely.
Mm hmm.
Okay.
Let's go back to mentorsand inspirational people for you
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that brought youto where you are in health
and fitness today.
Wow.
I really haven't even thoughtof that.
Like, in terms of why do I enjoywhat to enjoy?
It was kind of a souljourney, honestly.
When I was growing up, I playeda lot of baseball and football
and basketball.
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Of course, my parents helped tomotivate me to play baseball
and football and all of that.
My dad coached me for a numberof years, which was
it was always great to have himby my side and be there for
the games and practice.
I think for me, in terms ofendurance athletics,
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where I find the most peace,it was just a small challenge.
It was somethingthat was so painful.
I think when Iinitially did it, I
it was something I neverreally thought I wanted to do.
I was I remember being terrifiedof the water as a kid.
You know, I had a near-drowningwhen I was four on a lake or,
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you know, a friend of the familykind of pulled me out.
I remember how terrifyingthat was.
And I remember strugglingjust in swim lessons
and deeper water and just beingso afraid of of water
in that respect.
And so I was, you know, later inswim team in high school
and really kind of just turnedit around.
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So for me, it was aboutchallenges, you know,
challenging myself, seeing thatyou know, I had a cousin
that was on the swim teamor if he can do it, I can do it.
I had a really good friendthat said, Hey, Tony, let's join
the cross country team.
I'm like, Why would we wantto do that?
That's running.
That's ridiculous.
And I said, All right, I canI can do that.
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I want to do it.
And so it was kind ofmotivation, right?
That must be a gene that runs inthe family.
Yeah.
Because the challengeis love, love,
physical challenges.
It's it's what's alwayskept me going and wanting more
for sure.
What about you?
Eric has it been the challenge?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I love the challenge.
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I mean, as I'm getting older,you know, at this point
in my life, the challengesare becoming more painful.
Like it's you tell you thatphysically painful,
like I told you.
And I, you know, I told Angel,when I go to the gym today,
my routine is nowI walk to the gym.
Whatever doesn't hurtthat day is what I'm
the body part.
I'm working.
You know what I mean?
Is not routine or.
But yeah, I love a challengebecause for me, if
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I challenge myself and I kind ofgive up on the challenge,
I get really super mad at myselffor doing that because what
I went to flight schoolfor the Navy, I mean,
I had so many friends saying,You're crazy, you can never
do that.
And and there was no wayit was no way
I was going to feellike failure, which is not
an option at that pointbecause I wasn't
coming home, my tailbetween my legs.
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So that just one aspectof the challenge
of the challenge me physically,mentally, it could be
there'll be a bunch ofdifferent things
as all your child grows up.
I think it's healthyfor your mind to keep your
mind going.
All right.
I agree.
The Tony, how many triathlonshave you been into?
Yeah, this is aninteresting story.
So back in my late thirties,early forties,
I decided to kind of start intotriathlon.
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I had never done it.
Open water.
Swimming seemed likea fun thing.
I had always been a good runnerand a good and okay.
So I'm not going to sayI'm a great swimmer,
a male swimmer.
I can get by.
I've never really cycledat that point.
So I picked up a bike andstarted training.
I was training forhalf marathons and marathons
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at that point just to try tobe more healthy
and better fitness,just awareness that way.
And so I did a few back then,and then I dropped off.
I literally life gotthe best of me.
I had a lot ofchallenges at work.
I didn't have neuro linguisticprograming.
I was very mucha victim, trust me,
very much a victim to managemy emotions and work and all
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and everything else ended upchanging jobs a couple of times
to higher level jobs.
But they were still the stillthe same stress and the
same craziness was always there.
And I ended up, you know,going through a really bad
divorce and ended up movingto Arizona.
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And just this last year,I have been with Sherri
for six years now.
And just this last yearwe got married over the summer
and I said, you know what,I'm going to get back in
the triathlon because I'mmy health is probably
deteriorating.
My weight was high.
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I needed somethingthat I love to do to keep me fit
and kind of in a groove,you know, aligned of
achieving goals, reallyout of that back to mindset more
into an empowered mindset.
And I started training.
So I started training in Juneand for about two months
I said, okay, it'stime to sign up
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for my first event.
And I signed up forSprint Triathlon in November
and then anotherone in December.
And then this last one was overthis past weekend, February 24,
and another Sprint triathlon.
And I have one more coming upApril 28th, which is a
Olympic distance, which is twicethe length of the Sprint
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triathlon.
And it has been so gratifying.
I started off from my firsttriathlon.
It was what you calla draft legal or means that
you don't you can't usea triathlon bike.
You have to use like aregular road bike.
And I was able to place thirdin my age group and I qualified
for the world championshipsfor draft legal Sprint triathlon
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and was recruitedfor the world team
for our age group.
So it's great.
Only real quick if you could,for our listeners who don't know
exactly what a triathlonis, could you break it down
real quick what exactlytriathlon is?
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah, I forget about that part.
So, yeah, triathlon isswimming, biking and running
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in that exact order.
And there area bunch of different
levels of triathlon.
So sprint triathlons, generallythe shortest that you can do
and is half a mile swimwell point five mile bike
and five K, so 3.1 miles.
And that all generally takereally good professional
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seasoned athlete about an hourand you know I intake people
up to 2 hours.
I do mine in about an hour andone right now
which I, I feel like I can get alittle bit faster
but that's generallythe timing on that.
The next distance iscalled an Olympic,
which is twice as far.
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An Olympic triathlonis a mile swim,
a 24.5 mile bike,and then a ten K, which is a 6.2
mile run.
Then you get into yourIronman level, which you have a
half Ironman and a full Ironman.
Your Ironman isa 1.3 or hap Ironman
as a 1.2 mile swim, de sixmile bike and half a marathon,
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which is 13.1 milesand then a full ironman
is 2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bikeand a marathon,
which is 26.2 miles.
Wow, that's a lot of work.
Yeah, but it's about 15 between.
Well, I mean, people I mean,the fast guys
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are probably aroundeight or 9 hours
on a full triathlon Ironman.
And then you'll have peoplefinishing up to 17 hours
on nonstop.
Right now, triathlonfor me is a two mile
drive to the to the gym,a mile drive to Chipotle
and then a mile drive back home.
Yeah, that's an awesome trip.
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So, Tony, do you ever expectto advance into the next level?
What's your plan?
I don't know yet.
I really right now, I want toI have a certain amount of time.
I train about six days a week,about an hour a day
on the weekends, all trainingto two and a half hours
on Saturday and on Sunday.
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So Saturdays I'll be aboutan hour swimming and then
about an hour and a halfto 2 hours riding on my bike.
And then I usually do a long runon Sunday, like last Sunday
at 14 miles.
And that was a bout of,you know, an hour
and 50 minute run.
And so, you know, with that,it's probably, I don't know,
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8 to 10 hours a week training.
You start getting beyond thator a half Iron Man,
you're really like,probably you need
to add another five,6 hours on a week.
And there now you're startingto run out of a time.
So.
So we'll see.
I like the SprintOlympic distance.
I think thatthat's a fair amount to do
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and have balance in your life.
I'm not sure that any more thanthat would be at this point
at least a goal of my level.
So the the sprint triathlons,it sounds like you you've done
quite a few in a shortperiod of time.
Is that common with peopleor have you done
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like more than whatmost people do?
I'm not sure.
I, I think I'm luckyliving in Arizona, as you guys,
you know, in Florida,same kind of thing.
You get to do thingsall year round.
And so for me, I'm probablya little bit ahead
of most folks.
I do one every couple of months.
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Mm hmm.
And you're 5101 52 in June.
In June.
Okay.
So is your body saying toyou right now, thank you
for what you're doingor is it saying, Oh my God,
what are you doing to me?
For the most part, you know,it feels pretty good.
I think runningcan be a challenge.
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You get a lot of tightnessand strain from from running.
I did lose about £25.
So through all of this training.
And so the lighter I am, theless things hurt.
Imagine that, you know,that's just that's
just how it works.
So but I think swimming, I don'texperience any issues at all.
Similar with riding.
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I think running there aresome inherent challenges
I need about on day to recover,especially after a long run.
Tony, What about your caloricintake and your protein intake?
What do you do to preparefor these triathlons?
I mean, I'm sure the daybefore your carbohydrate intake
or you're actually juston your normal daily
basis of your train every day,If you're working out every day,
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what do you eat?
Yeah, that's great.
So I'm a I'm a vegetarianand I do eat fish.
And this just startedprobably a year,
year and a half ago.
So I'll have some fishevery now and again.
But I do have a very funny storyfor you guys.
My my wife, she loves theketo diet.
And so she was when I wasinitially starting
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this tri training,she was wanting me to do this.
Tito a diet with her,and I found that I was getting
some really strange painsduring training and
a lot of weakness and I couldn'tunderstand why.
And so I started doing research.
I'm like, What is going on here?
I mean, is this diet related?
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Is there something wrongwith me? What?
Why am I not doing that?
Well, you know, in terms ofendurance athletics.
And so the research that I didpointed out how you break down.
You guys probably all know this,but it's really interesting
how you break down youryour sort of nutrients as you're
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doing endurance athletics goesin this or you break down
glucose, glycogen stores burst,then it goes directly to muscle
and then fat.
So what was happeningwas I was eating
with a keto diet, high fat dietwith very low carbs
and you know, some protein.
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So I was basicallygoing right to breaking down
my muscle first.
And so that was a detrimental.
When you're doinggirls athletics, you do
have to have cards on boardall the time.
And then I never really fullyunderstand that right after an
endurance workout you have tohave carbs within a half hour
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and you got to get them in yourbloodstream quickly.
So it could be an appor you can choose
how things you don'twant to eat cookies and things
like that.
The sugar, like in cookies hejust mentioned, they're
simple carbs, but when youeat like pastas and rice
and oatmeal, those arecomplex carbs that are
more beneficial to the body.
Better fuel, obviously.
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Yeah.
So I had to shift my diet.
And then going back to yourinitial question,
Rick, I try to eat after I doa long run or a workout.
I want to eat an ampleamount of carbs to replenish
glycogen storesand I want to eat a fair
amount of protein and whatevervegetarian form it
is, you know, fish and tofubeans and rice
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to repair my muscle.
So those are key criticalcomponents to my diet.
Do you take a protein supplementat all, like a protein powder?
I don't I don't do any of thatfood.
No other supplements at all.
I do take some vitamins,but really, no, I'm on
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long runs and onendurance athletic things.
I'll eat gels, you know, Googlesand things like that every about
every hour or 20 minuteswithin a workout.
I need to make sureI take one of those
so that I don't go right.
The muscle burn.
You don't want toburn your muscle.
Okay.
Can you tell usabout any struggles that you've
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been through, all throughyour health and fitness life,
any struggles that you'vehad to go through and figure out
and to get to where you knowyou're doing what you're
doing now and doing it well?
Well, this is kindof a good story.
I always wanted to play baseballas an adult, and I
lived in Colorado,in the Mountain West
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most of my life.
There wasn'ta lot of opportunity for that.
So when I moved to Arizona,that was one of the first
things I did was I looked for abaseball league because I
love the pitch.
I love to head the shortstop,second baseman when I was
growing up, but I alwaysfelt like I wanted to do
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more baseball.
I didn't quite finish upin high school the way I saw it,
and I thought, Well,I want to play again
as an adult.
And so I was able to pitchand I do a lot of
really interestingkind of strange injuries
in terms of, you know, my armand how it affected my joints
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very, very weird thingsyou wouldn't think would happen.
But I was great fun.
But the thing that really madethings super difficult
was in one game I was playingthird base and my pitcher threw
a, I don't know, probably achange up and.
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The batter was anticipating it.
And the batter, I mean,these guys are are big guys
or some of them are ex-probaseball players.
I mean, I had a chance, guys,in this league that were around
90 plus.
I mean, they'rethey're they're it's a very
competitive league.
And so he threw this changeupwhich was a slow pitch
and the batter just ripped itright down the third base line
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right at me.
And so I was pretty disciplined,a third baseman.
So I stayed down on the balland made sure I stayed in
front of it.
The ball right at my feettook a bad hop
and there was no wayit was coming at me.
I like it 90 plus miles an hour.
There is no way that I was goingto get out of the way
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and it hit me right in the faceand yeah, I lost three teeth
and went through all kindsof implant surgeries and tooth
replacement thing that lastedover a year.
And so I ended up playingone more season of baseball,
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even though my wife was like,I don't want you doing that.
You didn't do one more season.
But I decided that, you know,at this point in my life,
it probably wasn't worth it.
And I, I got whatI got out of it
and it was very fun.
But all fun things have tocome to an end.
Well, at least you got to play alittle bit longer and you got to
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satisfy that part of you,but that competitive part of you
where you wanted the challenge.
Yeah.
Yeah, It was awesome.
Nice.
Very nice.
I want to talk a little bitmore about preparing
for a triathlon.
I mean, you were saying earlierthat you did start biking
a little bit, but let's talka little bit more about
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preparation.
Okay?
So let's say I want toI want to run a you know,
I want to do a sprint triathlon.
Did you hire a coach?
Did you just take itupon yourself?
What was what was your trainingregimen like?
Well, I mean, people can hirecoaches.
I wouldn't say thatthat's about choice.
If you're really unfamiliarwith running or swimming
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or cycling in any way,shape or form, I would
highly recommend some sort ofa coach brochure.
I didn't do that.
I've been, like I said, swimmingfor pretty much my whole life
and running for a lot of yearsas well.
It's always been kind of asomething I needed
to stay healthy.
Cycling was pretty new to meand I.
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I still feel like I havea lot of opportunity
in the cycling areato learn things.
I think it is funner,not funner.
I mean, it's easy ish to youto jump on a bike
and just pedal itand just battle it
as fast as you can.
But you have to learn how to,you know, order the gears
and everything else.
In terms of training, though,you have to be very disciplined.
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You cannot think that you'regoing to go out and do one day
a week or two days a weekand be able to pull off
one of these events.
So I think generally whyyou want to do is if you're not
familiar swimming and you're nota good swimmer
and you don't know how to dothe Strokes, you need to
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probably get some lessonsor work out in a pool.
Your stroke.
You got to learn how to do itand do it properly.
Once you get that developedand yeah, you're going
to star on at least twicea week swimming and you don't
have to swim fourmiles the first time
out in the pool.
You can, you know, startkind of small between 500 and a
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thousand yards.
So one pool length is 25 yards.
Generally on a normal pool,you'll want to look online or
get some help from a coachif you do have one on what
a workout should looklike initially and just
and just follow a goodswimming workout routine
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based on that cycling'sthe same way I have a peloton
or indoor cyclinggreat workout style with powers
on training.
I think powers on trainingis the best way to do cycling
and you can do endurance levels,own three kind of work
or you can move to more zoneor zone five work, which it's
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more threshold.
So that's where you're goingto actually push your heart
and lungs up to the next level.
Running is the same way.
I mean, if you haveto run a lot,
you're going to wantto start with walk runs
where maybe you run a minuteand then you'll walk for 15
or 20 seconds and then you'llrun another minute
until you build up tocontinuous running.
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You know, start with a milebuild up to you know, three,
3 to 5 miles.
Right now my workouts are a lotmore advanced than that.
I like to swimat least 3500 yards
every time I swim.
So that's about an hour worth ofswimming for me
and I'll break itdown into longer distance swims
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like a thousand yards, and theshorter distance swims up to
the lowest is usually about 100yards.
You can work in your headin a pool or open water.
So I'm doing that in a pool.
Mostly it's just more efficientfor me.
I do need to start swimming morein open water.
That was one thing I learnedfrom the triathlon
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over the weekend, The wateris 58 degrees
and it was shockingand there was current in there.
And there's a lot of thingsI didn't anticipate.
That's me in the backgroundthere swimming.
You know, you can see that.
But it was a very difficultand so I do need more time
in open water.
That's cold water, 50 degrees,hypothermia.
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And that while I don't docold water, I don't even like
ice in my ice water.
I mean, I just just not 50.
It's rough, you know, I hear youthat it was it was cold.
It took your breath awayfor sure.
Did you wear a suit,any kind of a suit?
I did.
I had a wetsuit on, you know,And you have to when it's
waters are cold, you get inand you have to kind of
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prep yourself a bit,put your face and blow bubbles.
Let yourself acclimate forabout 5 minutes or else it's
too much of a shock.
You won't be able to breathe.
A lot of people just drop outright at the beginning,
if that's true.
Shocking.
Wow.
And yeah, so even witha wetsuit, once that water goes
into your suit, you got totake a few minutes to let it
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let your body warm upthat water in there.
It's shocking.
I know I've done thatscuba diving, so I know what
that's like.
And also the weight.
You've got a little bitmore weight with the suit.
So it's going to take you longerthan if you were in a pool
to swim those swim those laps.
Yeah.
All right.
So that's a that's somethingthat folks need to really
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understand.
I think probably the wetsuit is like a life jacket.
You know, you guys havethe ocean out there,
but in freshwater, you sinkIf you don't have
a life preserver on toour solid water,
you're more buoyant here.
If you're in this fresh water,you will sink in.
What a wetsuit does is thatthat keeps you floating.
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You don't even have totread water in a wetsuit.
So it creates a little bitmore of an aerodynamic
just position in the water.
And you can go faster,believe it or not, in a wetsuit
than you can without one.
That's interesting.
Okay.
I never thought of it that way.
Yeah, it's all freshwaterout there.
Yeah.
The less body fat you have,the more muscle you have.
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You're going totake a lot quicker
out of the body.
Fat makes you a littlemore buoyant.
And the salt in our saltwater here makes you
more buoyant too.
So I'm never going to swimin the lake of 58 degrees,
I can promise you that.
But I'll probably goright to the bottom, you know,
not even with a wetsuit, no.
Yeah, but my pool by my housegoes down to like an
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adventure time.
And I'll go down to, like,I don't know, maybe 70.
And now they get me home.
But I can't do that.
I don't like coldanything, you know?
So I'm just not doing it,you know, I don't go into real
Florida boy.
Go.
Even though he wasborn in New Jersey.
Right. Right.
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Yeah.
But I was that was threeyears ago.
I mean, three years ago.
That was that.
That was was 50.
I moved down here when I was 15,so that was worth
It was 52 years ago.
You know what I mean?
So people still they could hearmy New Jersey action still,
I don't know how, butI was born in winter.
I was born and my motherhad to walk through
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two feet of snow to get tothe hospital.
And now I grew out of thatreal fast.
You know, I don't do it.
I anything anything under 70.
I go in a coma,just I just can't
do it, you know?
I mean, so I'm definitelynot going to Wyoming yet.
Have you ever been to Wyoming?
No.
It's too cold all year long.
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But most of the year.
But not all year long.
It's definitely an experience.
Yeah, I'm sure.
So, Tony, withwith all the stuff that you've
been into, all your lifewith health and fitness, I know
you've been an inspirationto your family, and I'd like you
to talk a little bit about yourson, Aiden, and his
accomplishments.
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Super proud of Aiden,very young man.
He has played sports as allentire life.
He's been a traditionalbasketball, football, baseball
kind of guy, played basketballand a baseball up until he was
probably a sophomoreand then sort of just started
shifting.
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Actually, he played baseballthrough his junior year,
shifting to football,and he was always much better
football player than anyother sport.
But definitely one of those kidsthat walks out on the field
and you want him on your team.
He was one of the best playerson every team.
He ever on.
And I'm not saying thisbecause I'm his dad.
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He he's actuallywas really gifted athlete.
I wish I had his sizeand ability to do
the things he did.
He was just very, very lucky.
Never had to work at it.
Just really good.
And that and from aacademic standpoint,
that kid is he'ssmart, crazy smart.
Never had a be is ourentire life.
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I mean, he actuallyhad one be it was in
it was in band.
So the teacher the teacherI think the teacher
liked him very much.
But anyway, he had great grades.
He's in engineeringright now, ISU.
But what I'm very proud of himwere being in
the athletics was hewas the starting
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varsity quarterbackbeginning his junior year
of high schooland brought his team
for the first timein about eight years
to the playoffs his senior year.
They did lose theirfirst playoff game, but he,
you know, helped get them thereand he ended up being the
offensive player of the yearfor his football team
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and for that the regionthat we're in, the conference
that we were in,as well as he made
all conference for footballand he had a bunch of records
that he, you know, hecreated and whatnot.
So very proud.
He did he did get a fullride scholarship to a Division
two school.
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We really didn't work onfootball scholarships that are
hard for him,but he did get that full ride
scholarship at a Divisiontwo school in New Mexico,
and he elected not to go therebecause they didn't have an
engineering program.
So he doesn't really play anysports today, but he works out
six days a weekand he's about six to honor £90
(46:02):
and just very strong young man,very in shape.
So they're very disciplinedin the gym every day,
very proud of them.
Absolutely good looking guy.
He's going to go far.
You should be proud, Papa.
He's a good guy.
Where do you get that six foottwo from there.
When our family is there.
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Probably wasn't from the Italianside.
Well, okay.
Any questions for him, Rick,that you would like to ask?
I'm still thinking about that.
Noro linguistic program.
Yeah, that took that, too.
Yeah.
Oh, but yeah, I'm still I'mgoing to do a little research
(46:44):
on that because I think I findthat interesting
when you, you know, you talkabout feelings and emotions and
like I said, especiallyin today's world of entitlement
and nobody wants to take blamefor anything in their lives
or it's always blameon the other guy.
Self-responsibilityis a very rare thing now.
So I'm interested not justI want to do some
research on that.
So just an offshoot.
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So you guys know Tony Robbinsis a proponent of neuro
linguistic programing.
So a lot of his teachingsare based upon NLP and Dr.
Matt James.
This is where I got mytraining from.
So if you look up Dr.
Matt James, I think it's our dotcom as is our website,
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you'll be able to get a lotmore information about that.
He incorporatesenergy work as well
this thing called who andhe's from Hawaii originally
he's got a PhD in integrativepsychology very very smart man.
All of these things are based onour past behaviors and what we
were exposed to.
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So have you ever heard anythingabout it's drawing lines
and connecting lines on paperand it's supposed to
focus your energies.
I can't tell youthat I was invited
by some Russian psychologists.
I believe that's recognizedpretty well is what
it looks like,if you could say it.
Oh, wow.
It's drawing lines of that.
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And it's my wife who justgot into it now.
It's very interesting.
It's it's almost what you'retalking about, you know, But
it's it's a little different.
I try to I don't have thepatience for it, you know?
I mean, it's the drawing linesand it's all part the psyche.
The mind is everybody's mind isa different planet
because everyone'sgot their own world
inside their headand you never know what's going
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on inside.
Somebody said, never,no matter how good.
You know, I find thatvery interesting what you do.
Yeah.
Mastery comes from my it'snot your own
perception, but it'sthe perspective of others.
And we in start livingwith a bigger world.
It's your and get out ofour own minds.
It will transform your lifeand how you see everything.
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Well, that's where you seea lot of people I know Tell me
I'm out of my mind.
So it's just like, Throw that inthere, Angel.
But we like you justthe way you are.
Don't change a thing now, butwe've all been through
some kind of trauma, and we mayhave forgotten
about the trauma, or we mayhave tucked it away somewhere
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because we don't want todeal with it.
And finding a wayto bring it up, bring it out
and release it is probably thebest thing that we can do
with ourselves.
And it affects our livesin a way that we never thought
it would or.
Sure.
Great.
Well, all right, Tony.
So at the end of all my shows,I ask our guests to provide
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the audience with a goal in lifeand how to get there.
Would you like to helpour listeners with something
like that, to inspire themto live their best life?
Yes, I would say I don't wantto make the goal too lofty
right now because that's a lotof what people kind of how
they make mistakesand how they get off
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to the wrong start.
So make your goal attainable.
So what I would say isif you do have a desire
for fitness, make your goalsomething completely attainable.
Do something that you knowyou're to have success at.
So let's just start outwith today.
I want you to go out and I wantyou to have some sort
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of workout, whatever it isyou want to do, that's easy.
You can do it.
Is it a lot?
Is it a run?
Is it lifting weights,riding a bike?
Let's just let's makethat your goal for today.
One step at a time.
Very good.
Doing right?
Yep.
Well, thanks so much, Tony,for being on the show.
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I appreciate you doing this.
Signing up and right awayand coming out
and talking to us.
Me and Rick, reallyappreciate you sharing all
your knowledge.
You have a lot of it,and hopefully you've inspired
others out there to go aheadand take that first step
towards something exciting,making a change in their life
so that they can feel betterabout themselves.
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Thank you for having me.
This was an amazing experience.
You guys are great hosts,ask great questions and love
answering those questions.
Laughs and thanks, Rick.
Thank you somuch for co-hosting.
You did a great job.
We'll do this again.
Absolutely.
A very interesting person.
Tony's a great guy andit's great meeting
interesting people.
It really is.
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Especially in the areayou have no idea about.
You're always learning somethingwhen you talk to
different people.
So it was nicemeeting you, Tony.
Nice talking to you guys.
Nice meeting you as well.
Rick.
Awesome.
You guys have a great day.
This is Angela Graysonfrom the Loving Life
Fitness Podcast.
To help others in their fitnessjourney.
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This is Angela Grayson fromthe Loving Life Fitness Podcast.
To help others in their fitnessjourney.
It's all possible.
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It’s time to wake up.
Here we go.
Hello, everyone.
This is Angela Graysonfrom the Loving Life
Fitness Podcast.
We're here todaywith Rick DeTata my co-host.
First time I have a co-hoston the show.
I'm really excited about thedynamic today.
(00:52):
Our guest is Tony Cerullo whoI guess I should tell
you is my cousin.
And I'm so proud of himand all that he's
accomplished in his lifeand in health and fitness.
Hey, Tony, how you doing?
I'm good.
Hey, thanks for thenice intro, Angel.
Awesome.
Hey, Rick.
How are you doing today?
(01:12):
Good.
How are you?
Glad to be here.
I'm happy to be here, too,with you guys.
This is exciting.
All right, so, Tony, let's getstarted on you.
Tell us about your background.
I know that you'rea pathologist.
You also sent me informationthat you’re now a
master practitioner of neurallinguistic programing, which
(01:36):
I've never heard of before,but I can't wait to hear
about it.
Let's start from the beginning,where you were born,
where you grew up,and where you went to college.
I was born in New York's oldPatchogue, New York, and raised
in Casper, Wyoming.
So nice to you.
My folks moved out to Casper.
And if you've never been toWyoming, well, it is a
(01:59):
shock to the system.
It's super, super cold.
And the winter and the summersare nice.
They're nice, but you wishit was a longer version.
I grew up there and always hada desire to do something
in biology.
I wasn't really quite sure.
I think we all kind of start offon a different port
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and just venture outin different areas.
I think I was a marine by all.
IGY was my first major interest.
I ended up going onthe pre-med track and realizing
that I wasn't quite surea doctor was quite
what I wanted to do,but I thought health care
was still pretty cool.
(02:41):
So moved into med lab scienceand went on to get
my master's degree in biology.
And so I am a certifiedpathologist assistant.
And what they do is examineall tissue that come out of
the operating room.
So it could be anything from,you know, a GI biopsy
(03:03):
from a colonoscopy to a breastthat someone has
had were removed for cancer,mastectomy or colon.
So I would examineall of those later in my career.
I shifted into health careadministration.
So I'm an executive now,not a laboratory in Arizona,
(03:24):
a major laboratory in Arizona.
And I am over 30 hospitalsurgical pathology laboratories,
as well as a large referenceanatomic pathology laboratory
that's literallya football field.
LONG And as cytologyflows, cytometry, really,
(03:45):
and all service.
So that's what I do currently.
That's easy for you to say, butwow, it's an amazing bio
you have there.
But I mean, what do you do?
You could could you change waterinto wine?
To what else?
Yeah, I can.
No.
Yeah, sure, I'm sure.
You write hard enough.
Let me ask a question.
Explain what?
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Angel said that the neuronarrowly lost.
Yeah.
Does that mean you speak Klingonor something? What?
What does that mean?
Yeah.
So we all have some strugglesin life, and I think that trying
to get to a place where we arefunction anything from a place
of accountability.
Right.
(04:26):
And my wife now cherry plot,he is very adventurous
and so she found this trainingin neuro linguistic programing
and it intrigued me.
And so essentiallywhat it entails is, is looking
at your subconsciousmind, right?
(04:46):
So from 0 to 10 years old,we are essentially trained
in our behavior,from our experiences
in our subconscious.
So from 0 to 10,if you think about that, you're
in a different kind ofa wavelength.
You're in what we callan alpha wavelength or a
theta wavelength or inthat time period.
(05:08):
So that's why you believe inSanta Clause and cartoon ads
are really cooland all that stuff.
You're very impressionableat that time.
So anything you learnat that point of your life
really affects who you grow upto be, who, how you be in
and specific instances.
And what I like to call outprobably has the most impression
(05:32):
is any gestalt.
So against all it is,if you have an experience
attached to an emotion.
So if your mom says to youwhen you you got a new toy,
oh, you look more articulatelyhappy today, you go, Oh, well,
that's the first timeI've ever recalled knowing
what happiness felt like.
So that moment is a good stall.
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The thing we have to be onthe lookout for is negative
emotion.
So fear, sadness, grief.
Any of those emotions, anxietyand the gestalt associated
with them.
So however, some fearthat negative emotion is
at the time and that yourecognize it at the
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gestalt affects who you areand how you react to situations.
Say you have a relationshipand your significant other
tends to want to leave youwhen you're in an argument
or something like that.
If you had an abandonmentin that 0 to 10 age range, your
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subconscious mind has createda pattern and how
you will react.
And there are chances arethere are trauma associated
with that mental trauma.
You may react really badlyin that moment.
A normal person would be like,okay, if you want to leave, but
somebody with a lot of traumawould totally lose it
(06:59):
in terms of their emotions,you know, be completely
and proportionatelysad or whatever in that
type of mind frame.
So what, Marilyn?
GROSS That programing didis that helps people to get
rid of baggage, that trauma.
So there are certain toolsthat you can use that will
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really stop and that you willreact more normally.
It takes discipline, though.
Everything takescommitment and time.
And that is kind ofin a nutshell what neuro
linguistic programing does.
Wow.
So bottom line, you're sayingcartoons are cool anymore.
So at the center, getting ridof baggage And how would you
go about doing that besidesgetting divorced?
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It's been if you can explainthat real quick.
I'm not trying to overstep you,but I'm just.
Oh, sure.
Go ahead.
Those are good, great questions.
I'm exactly whatI had in my mind.
So go ahead, Sonia.
How do you deal with that?
Yeah, I think that is the trick.
So first the first step isyou have to realize
that there is a problem, right?
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You have to be accountablefor yourself.
The thing that I like to do isyou're not affected
by the outside world.
Your perception of the worldcomes from inside.
So you have enough innerstrength to go, okay,
I've got something I need todeal with here.
It's not my wife, my sister,my brother, my mom.
It's not my job.
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It's not whatever.
It's me.
I have to do the work.
It's what I have control on.
There is this phrasecalled cause and effect.
All right, So causeand effect means
if you're a cause, you'retaking ownership for your life.
You're the one that's going tobe responsible.
If it's a fact, you're goingto be a victim,
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you're going to bein the blame state.
You don't want to be a victimever.
You want to be at causeyou want to take ownership, be
empowered in your day today life.
So that's really the first step.
You have to acknowledgeyou need help.
You have to want to be empoweredthe next step.
There are several ways to do it,but the way that we do
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it, narrow linguisticprograming, it's called mental
emotional release,which is I phrase
that kind of a semihypnotic type treatment modality
or a timeline type therapywhere you actually go back
into your timeline of your lifeand you'll revisit events,
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feel the emotionsurrounding that.
And believe it or not, asI walk folks through this,
it will separate the emotionfrom the event.
So they'll see the eventfor what it is, if it's an
extremely sad event.
So, for instance,I lost a brother when I was
seven years old and he was hitby a car and that caused
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extreme trauma inside of thatI was probably incapable
of dealing with when I wasseven years old.
So when I went through a mentalor emotional release,
I went back to that eventand I was able to release
the guilt.
I had a lot of guilt associatedwith that and it was completely
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disproportional.
And the first timeI went through it, I was like
almost a lunatic in therebecause I was so sad
and so distraught from therecollection of that event.
But I was able with some work,you know, and help actually from
my wife.
She's one that walked methrough the mental emotional
release therapy at that timeI was able to release.
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Now I can deal withit proportionally if I go see
my brother's headstonein Wyoming.
Now, I may have some tears,but I'm able to deal with it
in a good mannerAs to where before
I would put up a big shield,I wouldn't have any
emotional reaction.
Like I would be like, Oh,there's a headstone, you know,
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or there's, you know, that'swhere Gene's buried.
Now I have a much more healthyinteraction.
I'm able to experiencethe feelings, release them after
I appropriately experiencethe emotion I should feel.
So when I've everlost a loved one starting from
way back when.
When my grandmother passed away,and also my grandfather
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and my dad, I didn't cry.
Took a long time to cry.
It's like, why?
Why is that?
Do you think there's somethinggoing on there?
I do.
You know, absolutely.
And I think that when youare from 0 to 10,
you were taught that sadnessshould not show
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a display of tearsor I be strong.
Yeah, be strong.
Right.
And so through through time,that has every time
you experience sadness, that'srecapitulated itself
over and over again forever,that's built in
it's muscle memory.
It's just how you react.
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Yeah.
Let me ask you one thing.
So what do you do in a situationwhere a bad situation is more
of a relief for you?
For example, my motherwas sick for years.
You know, she was bedriddenand we were we were
caretakers for her.
But when she did pass,it was like it was a relief.
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Thank God she's out of pain.
And I never cried because it wasalways a preparation for this
was going to happen one day.
So how do you how would youaccount for that?
Because I never did crybecause it like I said,
it was a relief for me that sheshe's finally out of pain.
I had more of a happy momentfor me that she's that she's
she's not wearing a neck collar.
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She's not bedridden andand she's gone and then
she's out of that pain,you know, because I used to
visit her every dayand we just terrible to see her
like that.
So how do you how do youis there something deep
inside me that may one daycome out?
You know what I mean?
That I'll have a release ofof emotion later on.
Possibly, Rick.
You know that.
That's a great question.
I don't know that tears arealways necessary to experience
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the emotion, right?
So I would say we all do itin a different way.
What I would say isI could run you through this
right now is that when you havethat moment of sadness, if
you allow yourselfto experience it, and then
wherever resonates in your body,so say you have anxiety.
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I mean, some people feel liketheir throats cut off
or they can breathe as well.
Or maybe they feel like,you know, Archer,
you know, things like that,you want to you want to be able
to go, okay, I have this thoughtin your case,
it would be the lossof your mom.
I have this thought and thenit generates an emotion.
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And so the emotionis going to be some sort of
hormonal physicallogic reaction.
It's not going to be it's not abig secret.
You know, if you havea situation where you're in
fear, it's fight or flight.
Right?
You may have an adrenalinerush to me or whatever
the whole trickis to in that moment
that thought, oh, I lost my mom,why am I not crying?
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Where's the emotion?
Is that emotion of happinessfor her, or is I, you know,
pure sadness?
You can see and feel thatin your body somewhere,
as long as you allow yourselfto experience
that group, really, and feel itfor a few minutes,
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that detaches the thought fromthe emotion and then you can
eventually in 90 seconds is whatthe terminology or the
thought is on this.
So that's how long it takesfor your body to to process
through all the hormonesthat you may have accumulated
during that time.
Once those hormones slide you,then you are kind of through
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the event.
The thoughts calm, the emotionsgo on, you process it
in a healthy mannerand you're fine.
So I would say in your state,as long as you're confident
that there's nothing else thereand you're allowing yourself
to feel that emotion and processthrough it effectively
probably won't harm that issue.
Yeah, I think yourtraumatic experience has blocked
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things out too, becauseI was a firefighter and I was
at the fire station when shepassed away, so I got the call.
But she lived an hour and a halfaway from the fire station.
Well, she was in a hospice and Iwould have talked to this day,
I do not recallthat hour and a half drive up
the turnpike.
One minute I was at the firestation and it's like
the next minute I woke up, I wasat her bedside.
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To this day, I do rememberthe hour and a half
drive whatsoever.
I just don't it's kind of likefreaked me out that I could,
like, drive 70 miles an hourfor an hour and a half
and not recall any of that.
I guess just your mindblanks out at certain emotions.
Jamal Yeah, thatself-hypnosis you are in
self-hypnosis.
I don't know if you're familiarwith that.
I read about it.
Yes, Yes.
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Yeah.
You put yourselfin a hypnotic state.
Yeah.
Like I said to this day,what you, what, ten years later,
you're Angel.
Yeah.
And so putting yourself ina hypnotic state,
is that because we're tryingto protect ourselves
from those emotions, or is iteven, like, dangerous?
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You're driving.
I can remember drivingplaces, my mind being
somewhere else, and it's like,Oh my gosh, how did I get
here so fast?
You know, it's a dangerous.
That's a great question.
Actually.
It's not.
Being the reason why it's nondangerous is it's not like
you're asleep, right?
You have drivena car so many times
on the same roads repeatedly.
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It's like playing a musicalinstrument.
If you guys are into thator if you I don't know what you
what you do that you love todo A lot For me, I like to play
the guitar.
And if I learned a songand I know how to play it,
I don't have to think aboutthe chords anymore.
They just I'm playing itand it just works.
Same with driving a car.
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After a while,it's the same thing.
So yeah, exactly what you said.
Your thoughts captivated youto the point where that's
all you're focused on,and that's a state
of self-hypnosis.
Mm hmm.
Okay.
That's interesting.
And you teach people how toplay responsibility
for their actionsand their emotions.
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Is that what you do?
You teach thatbecause in a world today,
a world of theyounger generation
of entitlement and victimhood,everybody's a victim.
Nobody wants totake responsibility
for their actions,not just in society we live in.
That's got to be hard to teachpeople that, you know,
it's a desire for methat part of what I do,
like take it off.
It's more of something.
I'll provide the familyI meaning for you.
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You and Tik Tok videos are that.
Explain some of these things.
I want to do a lot more.
But yeah, that's an areaI would really
like to expand it.
Yeah, a lot of peopledon't know how or don't
take the time to sitwith their emotions
just to be able to sit backand relax and stare out
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at the ocean or your gardenand sit with your emotions
and see what comes up.
A lot of people don't do that.
They're scared to do it.
It's so importantto just listen to
what's going on in youryour heart, your mind
and your body.
Absolutely.
Mm hmm.
Okay.
Let's go back to mentorsand inspirational people for you
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that brought youto where you are in health
and fitness today.
Wow.
I really haven't even thoughtof that.
Like, in terms of why do I enjoywhat to enjoy?
It was kind of a souljourney, honestly.
When I was growing up, I playeda lot of baseball and football
and basketball.
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Of course, my parents helped tomotivate me to play baseball
and football and all of that.
My dad coached me for a numberof years, which was
it was always great to have himby my side and be there for
the games and practice.
I think for me, in terms ofendurance athletics,
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where I find the most peace,it was just a small challenge.
It was somethingthat was so painful.
I think when Iinitially did it, I
it was something I neverreally thought I wanted to do.
I was I remember being terrifiedof the water as a kid.
You know, I had a near-drowningwhen I was four on a lake or,
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you know, a friend of the familykind of pulled me out.
I remember how terrifyingthat was.
And I remember strugglingjust in swim lessons
and deeper water and just beingso afraid of of water
in that respect.
And so I was, you know, later inswim team in high school
and really kind of just turnedit around.
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So for me, it was aboutchallenges, you know,
challenging myself, seeing thatyou know, I had a cousin
that was on the swim teamor if he can do it, I can do it.
I had a really good friendthat said, Hey, Tony, let's join
the cross country team.
I'm like, Why would we wantto do that?
That's running.
That's ridiculous.
And I said, All right, I canI can do that.
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I want to do it.
And so it was kind ofmotivation, right?
That must be a gene that runs inthe family.
Yeah.
Because the challengeis love, love,
physical challenges.
It's it's what's alwayskept me going and wanting more
for sure.
What about you?
Eric has it been the challenge?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I love the challenge.
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I mean, as I'm getting older,you know, at this point
in my life, the challengesare becoming more painful.
Like it's you tell you thatphysically painful,
like I told you.
And I, you know, I told Angel,when I go to the gym today,
my routine is nowI walk to the gym.
Whatever doesn't hurtthat day is what I'm
the body part.
I'm working.
You know what I mean?
Is not routine or.
But yeah, I love a challengebecause for me, if
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I challenge myself and I kind ofgive up on the challenge,
I get really super mad at myselffor doing that because what
I went to flight schoolfor the Navy, I mean,
I had so many friends saying,You're crazy, you can never
do that.
And and there was no wayit was no way
I was going to feellike failure, which is not
an option at that pointbecause I wasn't
coming home, my tailbetween my legs.
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So that just one aspectof the challenge
of the challenge me physically,mentally, it could be
there'll be a bunch ofdifferent things
as all your child grows up.
I think it's healthyfor your mind to keep your
mind going.
All right.
I agree.
The Tony, how many triathlonshave you been into?
Yeah, this is aninteresting story.
So back in my late thirties,early forties,
I decided to kind of start intotriathlon.
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I had never done it.
Open water.
Swimming seemed likea fun thing.
I had always been a good runnerand a good and okay.
So I'm not going to sayI'm a great swimmer,
a male swimmer.
I can get by.
I've never really cycledat that point.
So I picked up a bike andstarted training.
I was training forhalf marathons and marathons
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at that point just to try tobe more healthy
and better fitness,just awareness that way.
And so I did a few back then,and then I dropped off.
I literally life gotthe best of me.
I had a lot ofchallenges at work.
I didn't have neuro linguisticprograming.
I was very mucha victim, trust me,
very much a victim to managemy emotions and work and all
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and everything else ended upchanging jobs a couple of times
to higher level jobs.
But they were still the stillthe same stress and the
same craziness was always there.
And I ended up, you know,going through a really bad
divorce and ended up movingto Arizona.
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And just this last year,I have been with Sherri
for six years now.
And just this last yearwe got married over the summer
and I said, you know what,I'm going to get back in
the triathlon because I'mmy health is probably
deteriorating.
My weight was high.
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I needed somethingthat I love to do to keep me fit
and kind of in a groove,you know, aligned of
achieving goals, reallyout of that back to mindset more
into an empowered mindset.
And I started training.
So I started training in Juneand for about two months
I said, okay, it'stime to sign up
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for my first event.
And I signed up forSprint Triathlon in November
and then anotherone in December.
And then this last one was overthis past weekend, February 24,
and another Sprint triathlon.
And I have one more coming upApril 28th, which is a
Olympic distance, which is twicethe length of the Sprint
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triathlon.
And it has been so gratifying.
I started off from my firsttriathlon.
It was what you calla draft legal or means that
you don't you can't usea triathlon bike.
You have to use like aregular road bike.
And I was able to place thirdin my age group and I qualified
for the world championshipsfor draft legal Sprint triathlon
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and was recruitedfor the world team
for our age group.
So it's great.
Only real quick if you could,for our listeners who don't know
exactly what a triathlonis, could you break it down
real quick what exactlytriathlon is?
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah, I forget about that part.
So, yeah, triathlon isswimming, biking and running
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in that exact order.
And there area bunch of different
levels of triathlon.
So sprint triathlons, generallythe shortest that you can do
and is half a mile swimwell point five mile bike
and five K, so 3.1 miles.
And that all generally takereally good professional
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seasoned athlete about an hourand you know I intake people
up to 2 hours.
I do mine in about an hour andone right now
which I, I feel like I can get alittle bit faster
but that's generallythe timing on that.
The next distance iscalled an Olympic,
which is twice as far.
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An Olympic triathlonis a mile swim,
a 24.5 mile bike,and then a ten K, which is a 6.2
mile run.
Then you get into yourIronman level, which you have a
half Ironman and a full Ironman.
Your Ironman isa 1.3 or hap Ironman
as a 1.2 mile swim, de sixmile bike and half a marathon,
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which is 13.1 milesand then a full ironman
is 2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bikeand a marathon,
which is 26.2 miles.
Wow, that's a lot of work.
Yeah, but it's about 15 between.
Well, I mean, people I mean,the fast guys
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are probably aroundeight or 9 hours
on a full triathlon Ironman.
And then you'll have peoplefinishing up to 17 hours
on nonstop.
Right now, triathlonfor me is a two mile
drive to the to the gym,a mile drive to Chipotle
and then a mile drive back home.
Yeah, that's an awesome trip.
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So, Tony, do you ever expectto advance into the next level?
What's your plan?
I don't know yet.
I really right now, I want toI have a certain amount of time.
I train about six days a week,about an hour a day
on the weekends, all trainingto two and a half hours
on Saturday and on Sunday.
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So Saturdays I'll be aboutan hour swimming and then
about an hour and a halfto 2 hours riding on my bike.
And then I usually do a long runon Sunday, like last Sunday
at 14 miles.
And that was a bout of,you know, an hour
and 50 minute run.
And so, you know, with that,it's probably, I don't know,
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8 to 10 hours a week training.
You start getting beyond thator a half Iron Man,
you're really like,probably you need
to add another five,6 hours on a week.
And there now you're startingto run out of a time.
So.
So we'll see.
I like the SprintOlympic distance.
I think thatthat's a fair amount to do
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and have balance in your life.
I'm not sure that any more thanthat would be at this point
at least a goal of my level.
So the the sprint triathlons,it sounds like you you've done
quite a few in a shortperiod of time.
Is that common with peopleor have you done
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like more than whatmost people do?
I'm not sure.
I, I think I'm luckyliving in Arizona, as you guys,
you know, in Florida,same kind of thing.
You get to do thingsall year round.
And so for me, I'm probablya little bit ahead
of most folks.
I do one every couple of months.
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Mm hmm.
And you're 5101 52 in June.
In June.
Okay.
So is your body saying toyou right now, thank you
for what you're doingor is it saying, Oh my God,
what are you doing to me?
For the most part, you know,it feels pretty good.
I think runningcan be a challenge.
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You get a lot of tightnessand strain from from running.
I did lose about £25.
So through all of this training.
And so the lighter I am, theless things hurt.
Imagine that, you know,that's just that's
just how it works.
So but I think swimming, I don'texperience any issues at all.
Similar with riding.
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I think running there aresome inherent challenges
I need about on day to recover,especially after a long run.
Tony, What about your caloricintake and your protein intake?
What do you do to preparefor these triathlons?
I mean, I'm sure the daybefore your carbohydrate intake
or you're actually juston your normal daily
basis of your train every day,If you're working out every day,
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what do you eat?
Yeah, that's great.
So I'm a I'm a vegetarianand I do eat fish.
And this just startedprobably a year,
year and a half ago.
So I'll have some fishevery now and again.
But I do have a very funny storyfor you guys.
My my wife, she loves theketo diet.
And so she was when I wasinitially starting
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this tri training,she was wanting me to do this.
Tito a diet with her,and I found that I was getting
some really strange painsduring training and
a lot of weakness and I couldn'tunderstand why.
And so I started doing research.
I'm like, What is going on here?
I mean, is this diet related?
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Is there something wrongwith me? What?
Why am I not doing that?
Well, you know, in terms ofendurance athletics.
And so the research that I didpointed out how you break down.
You guys probably all know this,but it's really interesting
how you break down youryour sort of nutrients as you're
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doing endurance athletics goesin this or you break down
glucose, glycogen stores burst,then it goes directly to muscle
and then fat.
So what was happeningwas I was eating
with a keto diet, high fat dietwith very low carbs
and you know, some protein.
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So I was basicallygoing right to breaking down
my muscle first.
And so that was a detrimental.
When you're doinggirls athletics, you do
have to have cards on boardall the time.
And then I never really fullyunderstand that right after an
endurance workout you have tohave carbs within a half hour
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and you got to get them in yourbloodstream quickly.
So it could be an appor you can choose
how things you don'twant to eat cookies and things
like that.
The sugar, like in cookies hejust mentioned, they're
simple carbs, but when youeat like pastas and rice
and oatmeal, those arecomplex carbs that are
more beneficial to the body.
Better fuel, obviously.
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Yeah.
So I had to shift my diet.
And then going back to yourinitial question,
Rick, I try to eat after I doa long run or a workout.
I want to eat an ampleamount of carbs to replenish
glycogen storesand I want to eat a fair
amount of protein and whatevervegetarian form it
is, you know, fish and tofubeans and rice
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to repair my muscle.
So those are key criticalcomponents to my diet.
Do you take a protein supplementat all, like a protein powder?
I don't I don't do any of thatfood.
No other supplements at all.
I do take some vitamins,but really, no, I'm on
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long runs and onendurance athletic things.
I'll eat gels, you know, Googlesand things like that every about
every hour or 20 minuteswithin a workout.
I need to make sureI take one of those
so that I don't go right.
The muscle burn.
You don't want toburn your muscle.
Okay.
Can you tell usabout any struggles that you've
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been through, all throughyour health and fitness life,
any struggles that you'vehad to go through and figure out
and to get to where you knowyou're doing what you're
doing now and doing it well?
Well, this is kindof a good story.
I always wanted to play baseballas an adult, and I
lived in Colorado,in the Mountain West
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most of my life.
There wasn'ta lot of opportunity for that.
So when I moved to Arizona,that was one of the first
things I did was I looked for abaseball league because I
love the pitch.
I love to head the shortstop,second baseman when I was
growing up, but I alwaysfelt like I wanted to do
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more baseball.
I didn't quite finish upin high school the way I saw it,
and I thought, Well,I want to play again
as an adult.
And so I was able to pitchand I do a lot of
really interestingkind of strange injuries
in terms of, you know, my armand how it affected my joints
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very, very weird thingsyou wouldn't think would happen.
But I was great fun.
But the thing that really madethings super difficult
was in one game I was playingthird base and my pitcher threw
a, I don't know, probably achange up and.
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The batter was anticipating it.
And the batter, I mean,these guys are are big guys
or some of them are ex-probaseball players.
I mean, I had a chance, guys,in this league that were around
90 plus.
I mean, they'rethey're they're it's a very
competitive league.
And so he threw this changeupwhich was a slow pitch
and the batter just ripped itright down the third base line
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right at me.
And so I was pretty disciplined,a third baseman.
So I stayed down on the balland made sure I stayed in
front of it.
The ball right at my feettook a bad hop
and there was no wayit was coming at me.
I like it 90 plus miles an hour.
There is no way that I was goingto get out of the way
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and it hit me right in the faceand yeah, I lost three teeth
and went through all kindsof implant surgeries and tooth
replacement thing that lastedover a year.
And so I ended up playingone more season of baseball,
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even though my wife was like,I don't want you doing that.
You didn't do one more season.
But I decided that, you know,at this point in my life,
it probably wasn't worth it.
And I, I got whatI got out of it
and it was very fun.
But all fun things have tocome to an end.
Well, at least you got to play alittle bit longer and you got to
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satisfy that part of you,but that competitive part of you
where you wanted the challenge.
Yeah.
Yeah, It was awesome.
Nice.
Very nice.
I want to talk a little bitmore about preparing
for a triathlon.
I mean, you were saying earlierthat you did start biking
a little bit, but let's talka little bit more about
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preparation.
Okay?
So let's say I want toI want to run a you know,
I want to do a sprint triathlon.
Did you hire a coach?
Did you just take itupon yourself?
What was what was your trainingregimen like?
Well, I mean, people can hirecoaches.
I wouldn't say thatthat's about choice.
If you're really unfamiliarwith running or swimming
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or cycling in any way,shape or form, I would
highly recommend some sort ofa coach brochure.
I didn't do that.
I've been, like I said, swimmingfor pretty much my whole life
and running for a lot of yearsas well.
It's always been kind of asomething I needed
to stay healthy.
Cycling was pretty new to meand I.
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I still feel like I havea lot of opportunity
in the cycling areato learn things.
I think it is funner,not funner.
I mean, it's easy ish to youto jump on a bike
and just pedal itand just battle it
as fast as you can.
But you have to learn how to,you know, order the gears
and everything else.
In terms of training, though,you have to be very disciplined.
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You cannot think that you'regoing to go out and do one day
a week or two days a weekand be able to pull off
one of these events.
So I think generally whyyou want to do is if you're not
familiar swimming and you're nota good swimmer
and you don't know how to dothe Strokes, you need to
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probably get some lessonsor work out in a pool.
Your stroke.
You got to learn how to do itand do it properly.
Once you get that developedand yeah, you're going
to star on at least twicea week swimming and you don't
have to swim fourmiles the first time
out in the pool.
You can, you know, startkind of small between 500 and a
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thousand yards.
So one pool length is 25 yards.
Generally on a normal pool,you'll want to look online or
get some help from a coachif you do have one on what
a workout should looklike initially and just
and just follow a goodswimming workout routine
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based on that cycling'sthe same way I have a peloton
or indoor cyclinggreat workout style with powers
on training.
I think powers on trainingis the best way to do cycling
and you can do endurance levels,own three kind of work
or you can move to more zoneor zone five work, which it's
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more threshold.
So that's where you're goingto actually push your heart
and lungs up to the next level.
Running is the same way.
I mean, if you haveto run a lot,
you're going to wantto start with walk runs
where maybe you run a minuteand then you'll walk for 15
or 20 seconds and then you'llrun another minute
until you build up tocontinuous running.
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You know, start with a milebuild up to you know, three,
3 to 5 miles.
Right now my workouts are a lotmore advanced than that.
I like to swimat least 3500 yards
every time I swim.
So that's about an hour worth ofswimming for me
and I'll break itdown into longer distance swims
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like a thousand yards, and theshorter distance swims up to
the lowest is usually about 100yards.
You can work in your headin a pool or open water.
So I'm doing that in a pool.
Mostly it's just more efficientfor me.
I do need to start swimming morein open water.
That was one thing I learnedfrom the triathlon
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over the weekend, The wateris 58 degrees
and it was shockingand there was current in there.
And there's a lot of thingsI didn't anticipate.
That's me in the backgroundthere swimming.
You know, you can see that.
But it was a very difficultand so I do need more time
in open water.
That's cold water, 50 degrees,hypothermia.
(39:59):
And that while I don't docold water, I don't even like
ice in my ice water.
I mean, I just just not 50.
It's rough, you know, I hear youthat it was it was cold.
It took your breath awayfor sure.
Did you wear a suit,any kind of a suit?
I did.
I had a wetsuit on, you know,And you have to when it's
waters are cold, you get inand you have to kind of
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prep yourself a bit,put your face and blow bubbles.
Let yourself acclimate forabout 5 minutes or else it's
too much of a shock.
You won't be able to breathe.
A lot of people just drop outright at the beginning,
if that's true.
Shocking.
Wow.
And yeah, so even witha wetsuit, once that water goes
into your suit, you got totake a few minutes to let it
(40:45):
let your body warm upthat water in there.
It's shocking.
I know I've done thatscuba diving, so I know what
that's like.
And also the weight.
You've got a little bitmore weight with the suit.
So it's going to take you longerthan if you were in a pool
to swim those swim those laps.
Yeah.
All right.
So that's a that's somethingthat folks need to really
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understand.
I think probably the wetsuit is like a life jacket.
You know, you guys havethe ocean out there,
but in freshwater, you sinkIf you don't have
a life preserver on toour solid water,
you're more buoyant here.
If you're in this fresh water,you will sink in.
What a wetsuit does is thatthat keeps you floating.
(41:27):
You don't even have totread water in a wetsuit.
So it creates a little bitmore of an aerodynamic
just position in the water.
And you can go faster,believe it or not, in a wetsuit
than you can without one.
That's interesting.
Okay.
I never thought of it that way.
Yeah, it's all freshwaterout there.
Yeah.
The less body fat you have,the more muscle you have.
(41:49):
You're going totake a lot quicker
out of the body.
Fat makes you a littlemore buoyant.
And the salt in our saltwater here makes you
more buoyant too.
So I'm never going to swimin the lake of 58 degrees,
I can promise you that.
But I'll probably goright to the bottom, you know,
not even with a wetsuit, no.
Yeah, but my pool by my housegoes down to like an
(42:11):
adventure time.
And I'll go down to, like,I don't know, maybe 70.
And now they get me home.
But I can't do that.
I don't like coldanything, you know?
So I'm just not doing it,you know, I don't go into real
Florida boy.
Go.
Even though he wasborn in New Jersey.
Right. Right.
(42:31):
Yeah.
But I was that was threeyears ago.
I mean, three years ago.
That was that.
That was was 50.
I moved down here when I was 15,so that was worth
It was 52 years ago.
You know what I mean?
So people still they could hearmy New Jersey action still,
I don't know how, butI was born in winter.
I was born and my motherhad to walk through
(42:52):
two feet of snow to get tothe hospital.
And now I grew out of thatreal fast.
You know, I don't do it.
I anything anything under 70.
I go in a coma,just I just can't
do it, you know?
I mean, so I'm definitelynot going to Wyoming yet.
Have you ever been to Wyoming?
No.
It's too cold all year long.
(43:14):
But most of the year.
But not all year long.
It's definitely an experience.
Yeah, I'm sure.
So, Tony, withwith all the stuff that you've
been into, all your lifewith health and fitness, I know
you've been an inspirationto your family, and I'd like you
to talk a little bit about yourson, Aiden, and his
accomplishments.
(43:35):
Super proud of Aiden,very young man.
He has played sports as allentire life.
He's been a traditionalbasketball, football, baseball
kind of guy, played basketballand a baseball up until he was
probably a sophomoreand then sort of just started
shifting.
(43:55):
Actually, he played baseballthrough his junior year,
shifting to football,and he was always much better
football player than anyother sport.
But definitely one of those kidsthat walks out on the field
and you want him on your team.
He was one of the best playerson every team.
He ever on.
And I'm not saying thisbecause I'm his dad.
(44:15):
He he's actuallywas really gifted athlete.
I wish I had his sizeand ability to do
the things he did.
He was just very, very lucky.
Never had to work at it.
Just really good.
And that and from aacademic standpoint,
that kid is he'ssmart, crazy smart.
Never had a be is ourentire life.
(44:36):
I mean, he actuallyhad one be it was in
it was in band.
So the teacher the teacherI think the teacher
liked him very much.
But anyway, he had great grades.
He's in engineeringright now, ISU.
But what I'm very proud of himwere being in
the athletics was hewas the starting
(44:56):
varsity quarterbackbeginning his junior year
of high schooland brought his team
for the first timein about eight years
to the playoffs his senior year.
They did lose theirfirst playoff game, but he,
you know, helped get them thereand he ended up being the
offensive player of the yearfor his football team
(45:18):
and for that the regionthat we're in, the conference
that we were in,as well as he made
all conference for footballand he had a bunch of records
that he, you know, hecreated and whatnot.
So very proud.
He did he did get a fullride scholarship to a Division
two school.
(45:39):
We really didn't work onfootball scholarships that are
hard for him,but he did get that full ride
scholarship at a Divisiontwo school in New Mexico,
and he elected not to go therebecause they didn't have an
engineering program.
So he doesn't really play anysports today, but he works out
six days a weekand he's about six to honor £90
(46:02):
and just very strong young man,very in shape.
So they're very disciplinedin the gym every day,
very proud of them.
Absolutely good looking guy.
He's going to go far.
You should be proud, Papa.
He's a good guy.
Where do you get that six foottwo from there.
When our family is there.
(46:23):
Probably wasn't from the Italianside.
Well, okay.
Any questions for him, Rick,that you would like to ask?
I'm still thinking about that.
Noro linguistic program.
Yeah, that took that, too.
Yeah.
Oh, but yeah, I'm still I'mgoing to do a little research
(46:44):
on that because I think I findthat interesting
when you, you know, you talkabout feelings and emotions and
like I said, especiallyin today's world of entitlement
and nobody wants to take blamefor anything in their lives
or it's always blameon the other guy.
Self-responsibilityis a very rare thing now.
So I'm interested not justI want to do some
research on that.
So just an offshoot.
(47:05):
So you guys know Tony Robbinsis a proponent of neuro
linguistic programing.
So a lot of his teachingsare based upon NLP and Dr.
Matt James.
This is where I got mytraining from.
So if you look up Dr.
Matt James, I think it's our dotcom as is our website,
(47:27):
you'll be able to get a lotmore information about that.
He incorporatesenergy work as well
this thing called who andhe's from Hawaii originally
he's got a PhD in integrativepsychology very very smart man.
All of these things are based onour past behaviors and what we
were exposed to.
(47:47):
So have you ever heard anythingabout it's drawing lines
and connecting lines on paperand it's supposed to
focus your energies.
I can't tell youthat I was invited
by some Russian psychologists.
I believe that's recognizedpretty well is what
it looks like,if you could say it.
Oh, wow.
It's drawing lines of that.
(48:08):
And it's my wife who justgot into it now.
It's very interesting.
It's it's almost what you'retalking about, you know, But
it's it's a little different.
I try to I don't have thepatience for it, you know?
I mean, it's the drawing linesand it's all part the psyche.
The mind is everybody's mind isa different planet
because everyone'sgot their own world
inside their headand you never know what's going
(48:28):
on inside.
Somebody said, never,no matter how good.
You know, I find thatvery interesting what you do.
Yeah.
Mastery comes from my it'snot your own
perception, but it'sthe perspective of others.
And we in start livingwith a bigger world.
It's your and get out ofour own minds.
It will transform your lifeand how you see everything.
(48:51):
Well, that's where you seea lot of people I know Tell me
I'm out of my mind.
So it's just like, Throw that inthere, Angel.
But we like you justthe way you are.
Don't change a thing now, butwe've all been through
some kind of trauma, and we mayhave forgotten
about the trauma, or we mayhave tucked it away somewhere
(49:12):
because we don't want todeal with it.
And finding a wayto bring it up, bring it out
and release it is probably thebest thing that we can do
with ourselves.
And it affects our livesin a way that we never thought
it would or.
Sure.
Great.
Well, all right, Tony.
So at the end of all my shows,I ask our guests to provide
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the audience with a goal in lifeand how to get there.
Would you like to helpour listeners with something
like that, to inspire themto live their best life?
Yes, I would say I don't wantto make the goal too lofty
right now because that's a lotof what people kind of how
they make mistakesand how they get off
(49:57):
to the wrong start.
So make your goal attainable.
So what I would say isif you do have a desire
for fitness, make your goalsomething completely attainable.
Do something that you knowyou're to have success at.
So let's just start outwith today.
I want you to go out and I wantyou to have some sort
(50:22):
of workout, whatever it isyou want to do, that's easy.
You can do it.
Is it a lot?
Is it a run?
Is it lifting weights,riding a bike?
Let's just let's makethat your goal for today.
One step at a time.
Very good.
Doing right?
Yep.
Well, thanks so much, Tony,for being on the show.
(50:43):
I appreciate you doing this.
Signing up and right awayand coming out
and talking to us.
Me and Rick, reallyappreciate you sharing all
your knowledge.
You have a lot of it,and hopefully you've inspired
others out there to go aheadand take that first step
towards something exciting,making a change in their life
so that they can feel betterabout themselves.
(51:04):
Thank you for having me.
This was an amazing experience.
You guys are great hosts,ask great questions and love
answering those questions.
Laughs and thanks, Rick.
Thank you somuch for co-hosting.
You did a great job.
We'll do this again.
Absolutely.
A very interesting person.
Tony's a great guy andit's great meeting
interesting people.
It really is.
(51:25):
Especially in the areayou have no idea about.
You're always learning somethingwhen you talk to
different people.
So it was nicemeeting you, Tony.
Nice talking to you guys.
Nice meeting you as well.
Rick.
Awesome.
You guys have a great day.
This is Angela Graysonfrom the Loving Life
Fitness Podcast.
To help others in their fitnessjourney.
(51:51):
It’s all possible.
It's time to take up work.
Here we go.
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