Control

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
hey, what up everybody.
Welcome to another episode oflow five gaming.
Luke and I got a interestingepisode for you in the sense
that I'm pulling a straightkanye and I'm going to put this
recording out there raw theaudience.
You're gonna get a littlelittle behind the curtain peek
of what this shit sounds likebefore we edit probably a lot of

(00:22):
nasty burps, a lot of weirdclicks from luke, a lot of other
weird noises that I a lot ofburps, yeah, yeah, you're
getting the raw dog pure uncutpun intended.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Experience from us dude so you're?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
you're raw dog and low five today.
But I tell you what, if youlisten to this, about four or
five days after we publish maybea little less than that you'll
have a nice, clean, polishedversion.
That's just the way it's goingto be because, like I said, I'm
going to pull a and, uh, I'mgoing to edit it and put a new
file out there once I'm readyyou won't know any of that.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
You're going to fix wolves, all right, cool.
Um well, hell yeah, dude.
Well, this is a doublethrowback and double raw dog,
because before we get too heavyin there.
I mean I do want to make them,I just do.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I do want to make this easy on myself when I do
polish this shit up and that'syour little, that's your little
intro.
So if you're first, this isyour new.
If you're new to the pod, Iapologize for the.
I don't really apologize.
This is what it is me neither,yeah, but uh, well, there's a
better version, but this is ourhazy IPA Indeed.
Indeed Dank.

(01:25):
It's a very dank episode thisweek.
Nonetheless, yes, let's kick itin man.
Hey everybody, Welcome toanother episode of Low-5 Gaming.
I'm here with my brother, Luke.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
What's up, Luke?
Hey man, how you doing.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Oh, you know, I've got my soup coat on.
I got my what do you call thosethings?
My service weapon, and I'mready to go into the oldest
building, whatever we're goingto call that thing.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I'm going to take care of business.
I would go along with a bit,but the only way for me to truly
do that is to be confused, likeI was when I was playing, and
be like yeah, sure, no doubt,indeed, authentic.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
So those who played control, they might have picked
up on a couple things there,probably not.
Those are some pretty likesilly little deals.
But here's the deal we playedcontrol, dude, not did we.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Not only did we play this game, we finished the game,
we wrote credits yes, we did,and I would also like to say
this is a throwback to some ofour original pods where, uh,
pre-children, alex and I, wouldbasically just have a little
brother date and we'd say to ourwives that we were potting and
before we even potted we'd havelike a full, extravagant lunch
and like two beers and we wouldburp into the microphones and be

(02:39):
like oh man.
Oh geez, get that out in editing.
And I had a Philly cheesesteakbefore this, so I just really,
I'm really bringing it back toour roots.
Oh man, a sleepy, burpy pieceof shit.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
So good for you, dude , philly cheese I do I feel like
philly cheesesteak is like it'sa sandwich that I love in
theory, and every time I've hadone I don't know if I had a
really good one once, and I'mjust chasing the dragon now but
like every time I get one, I'mdisappointed um, well, you know
we're not at our unsanctionedsponsor and maybe we will get

(03:12):
there and maybe I will have thisbe at unos teasers, slash
flirts, I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Um, but I like tonos and you know, I think the thing
is is mostly just that a phillycheesesteak is going to make you
feel like a big old pile ofshit.
Um, so, even if it's reallyreally dank and really really
awesome, it's a lot of greaseand cheese.
So maybe good for you that yourbody you're not chasing a good
one.
You just probably used to beable to handle awful food as a
young man a little bit better.
I think you're right on that,because we used to do that as

(03:42):
brothers back in all the way tothe day.
So, yes, it's a side dog.
Yeah, no, I just had to throwyeah, yeah, fair, fair you got.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
I probably won't add at all those burps, dude,
they're probably gonna be toomany.
No, keep a few in, just forauthenticity purposes I can dig
it and I can do this game dudein a weird way, like I don't
know you're in the scandinavians70s modern retro sci-fi um jedi

(04:10):
shooters.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Dude, that's your vibe.
Yeah, because those are alladjectives, that sort of kind of
explain this game like thatwasn't too off the cuff, that
was pretty, that kind of.
That kind of hits it, bro.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
So this game, you know, just to get into some of
the details, it's remedyentertainment.
So those are the folks thatwould have brought us max pain
back in the day.
Uh, alan alan wake stands,they're gonna, they're gonna
know remedy uh.
Control is considered to be oneof their top tier games, though
, uh, and I can see it, dude, Ihave some qualms that like we
can get to a little later on andI, beyond max pain one and two,

(04:43):
like I haven't really dabbled.
Oh, that's not fair.
I have played a little bit ofalan wake, uh, but only honestly
like a half hour and it seemscool, but, um, but I'm not like
a huge remedy stan, uh, but it's, but I could be.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I feel like I'm right on the like they could sell me,
they could sell me uh, I thinkthey're cool because they're
like a high-end double a studioor like a more indie rock triple
a studio.
So I think they're prettyfucking rad making their own ip
and kind of trying to flesh outtheir own universe.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
So it is cool you know, you hear a lot about them
in the gamer space, so they'recool.
You do indeed and this game isnot game.
This game not too old it cameon august 27th of 2019.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Oh word.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Five years, right?
Yeah, it's on pretty mucheverything you can get your
hands on now.
So it's PS4, ps5, xbox PCSwitch.
No, oh, it's on Switch but it'svia the cloud, switch Cloud.
So you can't have thatdownloaded to your Switch, but
you can play it via the SwitchCloud, which is kind of
interesting, to your switch.
But you can play it via theswitch cloud, which is kind of
interesting.
You play any of the cloud games, I think.

(05:45):
Uh, hitman is that way on theswitch.
I don't fuck with any of themlike that.
I got different systems to playthem, but uh my switch is just
my nintendo fetish machine.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, yeah, fair, fair you know it was also on
stadia rip oh word uh, but thisis surprised you haven't
collected one of those yet justfor shits, I and goodies.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I wanted one because I was kind of a Google.
I'm a little bit of a Googlestan too, I guess, but in the
sense that I'm just in theirecosystem and I'm too deep in
Team Android, as the folks lastmonth, sure, but Stadia, it
seemed really cool.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
We don't need to talk about Stadia right now.
We can go back to the game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
I wanted one.
I just never threw down on it,and then it quickly became a
thing that I didn't need to get.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I hated it and relished its destruction, so
we'll move forward.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Control though an action-adventure game,
paranormal thriller.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, paranormal sci-fi, kind of uh, spooky,
spooky sci-fi and to kind of setthe stage.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Here's what remedy has to say.
After a secretive agency in newyork is invaded by an
otherworldly threat, you becomethe new director, struggling to
regain control.
This supernatural third-personaction adventure game will
challenge you to master acombination of supernatural
abilities, modifiable loadoutsand reactive environments, while
fighting through a deep andunpredictable world.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yep, it's a.
It's a cool thematic, linear,semi open world game you know,
for some extra dense jargon, butthat actually, I feel like, is
that's less flowery than theirsand more.
More to the point.
Uh, the action slaps.
It's really cool.
I like to break the environmentand throw stuff.
Not too many games do a bunchof breakable environment in the

(07:35):
futures.
I thought in the past that we'dhave a bunch of destructible
environments in the futures andthis is one of the better
payouts on that fantasy.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
It's nice dude, I will say the physics engine in
this game is pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Oh yeah, except for when I'm levitating and I'm
scared and I'm moving around andnot being good at the game,
then it's not cool.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Because your hands are so sweaty bro.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yep and shaky yeah and just generally scared.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
But you're playing as uh, jesse fayton is the name of
the main character.
That's your character, thirdperson and the game starts off.
You kind of walk into this.
They call it the federal bureauof control, it's like has
strong fbi vibes, um, but it'slike the oldest house, I don't
know.
I was reading some lore aboutthis shit and this might be
because this is a lore heavygame in the sense that you can
like did you collect a bunch ofthis stuff?

Speaker 2 (08:27):
the collectibles, like in the sense that yeah,
it's like files everywhere youcan pick up for my lizard brain
and I understood that there'slike probably individual script
written on all of these for likethe densest lower dump ever,
which is super sick.
But yes, I haven't even seenlike a youtube explainer on
there, but I'm sure there's awhole world within a world there
, dude I, I would assume you arecorrect and there is a.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
I mean, there's a.
It's like fun, like it's one ofthose things where I quickly
like lose interest in readingthe in, like you know that type
of thing in games.
I love that it's there.
And I know some people like eatit up, dude.
I got a homie that reads everysingle skyrim book, which is
that's wild to me.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Fuck yeah, um, well, I think it's cool, in the era of
everything being metaverse andlicensed ip, that they've just
kind of created their own worldand that it does lend its sense
to maybe not believability, butimmersion is a better word for
it.
Sure, um, and it's got, likeyou know, it's immediately a
very trippy experience, like theoldest house, to put it very

(09:28):
mildly, is like a shifting place.
It's almost like dr strangetype ship where, like, you can
only find it if it wants you tofind it right and you know where
it is.
And then, um, you know, thedimensions don't make any sense
and all sorts of awesome trippystuff happens in there, which is
a very big understatement, butI can't even try to describe it

(09:48):
because, yeah, for those thathaven't, for those that like
haven't played this game and aretrying to like conceptualize a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
It has it has stranger thing vibes to it, like
the like the occult, likesci-fi-ness is, has some like
nice little stranger thing going.
But then of course you'd haveto see that.
But that's a pretty bigcultural phenomenon.
So I feel like a lot of peoplesee that I feel.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
I feel like it's more 70s to 60s than 80s, but we're
just cementing now, I know, Iknow, I know, but there's not
like cell phones and stuff,there's like all this old tech.
You know, I mean like the bell,ringing phone and projector
slides and all sorts of shit,where I guess a lot of that's
80s too.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
But you get my fucking point yeah, I don't
think we've dropped the word yet, but this game does have you
still got a drink in your hand?
You ready to eat, ready to havea sip dude, metroidvania?
yeah I'll take a sip of myginger love, but it has
metroidvania elements for sure,but it's so it's not linear.
You mentioned it earlier thatit has it's like open

(10:52):
world-esque, because you do havethe opportunity to kind of
explore this building and havethings open up and as you get
your different abilities andwhatnot, you get get to go to
different good bacteria andthat's kind of Dog there's
literally a chapter structure.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's as linear as it gets.
It's linear or semi-open world.
It's just a little bit of extraside.
Stuff is always opened up foryou, but it's super linear.
Don't say it's not linear, dude, I already.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I led with saying it was linear bro.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Whatever I already I started I led was saying was
linear bro, but it's not.
It's not like mario linear getout of here.
Um, I mean, it kind of is notlike mario super mario bros, but
it's like mario, that's whatI'm talking about fucking uh
mario odyssey.
Linear, yeah, which is nolonger linear, it's open world
it's semi-open world, linearlike I said from the beginning
odyssey or wonder or like uh,super mario 64 like it's.

(11:56):
You know you get extra areas toexplore, but you're following a
chapter system and a path.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
So anyway, is uh ginger jedi uh?
Is that a metroidvania?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, because you're revisiting a lot of the same
places.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
You revisit the same places.
Here too, you go back todifferent rooms all the time.
How much side quests did you do?

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Some when I was feeling weak and needed to
overpower myself a little bit,but not a ton.
Okay, so I kind of baited youbecause we'd like to argue about
metrobidius a little bit, sure,I felt like I wasn't ready for
a debate and I feel takenadvantage of, especially because
we're going raw right now.
So I was like you, bitch.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
But uh, I will, I will give you this dude.
If you're mainlining the, themain story, like, if you just
like boom, then it is gonna be alot more linear of a game
because you are just you'replowing through like that, that
what they want you to do, right,but there's so much side stuff
you can do in this and you cando it to, like, you bring up, to

(13:01):
increase your character'sloadout, to increase, like her
skills and stuff, um, but it'sthat stuff that becomes better.
I mean, a good example would belike uh, did you do the?
The?
Um, what's the?
What is that stuff called dude,the?
Uh, you had to go collect thesamples other objects of power

(13:22):
because all the other objectspower that was an absolute.
No, I was like no okay, see,there's some good boss fights in
those and the ones that kick myass and take forever.
Yeah, dude, that's why I saidabsolutely not not fair enough,
dude, fair enough, but like alot of those, those are like a
good.
There's certain areas you can'tget to unless you have a

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certain power.
Then you can go back and youcan progress further, that type
of thing.
Did you collect the sampleslike the?
It's escaping me right now.
They're like the little, likethe bacteria sample type things
or whatever they were.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
You do that once you have to like, destroy the things
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
No, I think they're thinking about different,
different spots.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
There's like a weird doctor, that's like dude,
totally.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
But um yeah, uh, that has a good boss at the end too,
but nonetheless.
So jesse, your main character,she's there because she's going
to go.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
She's going to collect her brother dylan right.
Gotta find dylan.
She's always talking in this,stressed out.
I have a voice inside my headgoing oh why, why am I here?
Is dylan in here?
Have I always been in here?

Speaker 1 (14:32):
did you bring up the voice of the head thing which
ends up having a name later on?
Like they make, they give aname to it polaris, I believe.
Polaris yeah uh, which like thethe main.
Is it dr darling or somethinglike that?
I think he's the mainresearcher or something.
Sure he's got a different namefor it.
You end up, uh, the spoilers, Iguess.
So we won't hit that right now,but this is also opaque dog.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I couldn't spoil this game for you if I fucking tried
I know.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
So that's that's kind of what I was gonna get at,
dude.
It's like this.
It's so like you start tofigure things out as time goes.
Like 30 hours into this gameyou're like, okay, maybe I
understand what's going on, butdo you really know?

Speaker 2 (15:10):
it is wild dude, it's , it's wild, it's intentionally
wild, it's.
It's cool that it's wild, it'scool that it could be up for
interpretation.
I'm sure there's a correctversion of events and I'd rather
live in my foggy brain of justlike I like to throw things at
other things and use my fuckingpowers in my little shifty,
shape-shifting gun thing and uh,this game is really cool yeah,

(15:35):
and I just the lore.
The lore serves those who arereally into it in a good way but
, it's, it's like notapproachable, it's very.
This is very dense dude.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
It's interesting like I don't think either of us play
a lot of horror games.
I know that we played a couplehorror game boy games.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
But like dude, like come on, you're not gonna get
super scared from a game boygame.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Um, this game is not scary in the sense that like
it's not, like it's not straightup horror genre.
But this is about as close as Iget to playing a horror game,
like it creeps me the hell out.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Paranormal thrillers, so like those are tugging at
your mental state a tiny bit andyou're like, oh man, this is a
little stressful, it's not liketoo spooky, but it's a little
spooky.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
So we haven't mentioned the hiss yet.
So the hiss is what they givethe name to Like.
Basically, there's this,there's something, is like
there's some paranormal entityis corrupting interdimensional
corruption, right?
Zombie force?
Yeah, totally, but they call itthe hiss and it's fun, dude,
it's a little snappier than whatI said.

(16:38):
Yeah, yeah, but it's like Idon't know, it's cool.
It's cool taking on the hissman, like they're basically like
zombie or like they've takenover the brains of the different
, like soldiers.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's like parasitical , it's like interdimensional
parasitical, right Like yeah,yeah, that's enough.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
But it's what I really like about this game and
you do a lot of fighting, so,like we've kind of teased the
fact that you know the semi openworld, there's exploration
going on, uh, you know, prettylinear, but you have like some
options to go like, you know, dosome exploring as you will, um,
but dude, there's uh, um,something that I really like

(17:19):
about it is the combat, yeah,which you don't.
You don't get the same combatthat you get in control and
other games like this that arehitting some of those other
elements, in my opinion, uh, andthen there's a lot of games out
there, so I'm sure someonecould come in and be like what
about this game sure, but if Ihad one ready I would be that

(17:41):
guy just to be a dick about it.
Um, but yeah it's the control'sfast, dude, like it's fucking
quick, it's fast.
It's like dude, you're not.
This is not a uh, you're notsneaking around in this game,
dude.
It's not metal gear no, you'redefinitely.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Uh, if you have composure it's a lot smoother
than when I play it.
I'm just like a frantic littlefucking worry wart who's like
hiding behind walls like oh Lord.
But you just got to constantlybe moving and it's very
gratifying.
Physics based combat, I mean ithas like the third person
shooter elements you have.
You cycle between your weapon,which is like a pistol, to
shotgun pistol, to likeautomatic and then like a sniper

(18:23):
, and it's not perfect that way.
As far as you know, thosethings all work a little like
the sniper has like a charge andlike you know what I mean.
You ever get a grenade launcherthat you were telling me last
night.
But that's like you get thatafter you beat it.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah no, dude, it's just uh, it's just like you,
just you just that powerfulenough, don't?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
you start with me, dude, don't you fucking start
with me?

Speaker 1 (18:47):
it's a.
It's like you can unlock it,just like all the other guns,
like as you upgrade yourcharacter, you can buy, like
with their little point, thingsthat you like, collect or
whatever.
You can just like all the otherguns you you unlock it.
Was there a blueprint?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
somewhere, because I didn't even know where to find
that.
Maybe it was one of the sidebosses maybe that you talked
about like the extra objects ofpower it could and uh as much as
we can't explain the lore toowell.
Uh, what I can explain which iskind of cool part of their
sci-fi, paranormal na na, na nais these objects of power are
almost like these corrupted oreveryday items that have these

(19:23):
paranormal interdimensionalpower or strength to them and
it's like you know, in themetroidvania sense you're
talking about.
It's how you get your nextpower up, usually.
But um, as far as the lore,it's always like super trippy
and cool.
How about that guy staring atthat fridge?

Speaker 1 (19:37):
that was bummer, huh I didn't do that one this time.
So I've actually played thisgame twice now, not to
completion, this is the firsttime I completed it.
Uh, more on that later, but thefirst time I played I probably
put in like I don't know 15hours, maybe a little less, and
I got up and I think I maybe didthat one, but I skipped that in
this playthrough.
Uh, the dude's staring at thefridge.
Did you do?

(19:58):
Did you complete that?

Speaker 2 (19:59):
yeah, you don't save the guy which is a bummer but
but you stop the object of power, okay, uh, he was being like oh
yeah, I don't know, I won'tspoil that, it's part of the
spookiness.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
So, speaking of, spookiness, dude, like totally,
uh.
So I think a really interestingthing about this game.
You know we've talked about allthe collecting.
You like collect differentfiles that you can read.
You collect different mediathroughout, so there might be
recorded tapes.
You also run into all thesedifferent.
There's like the main projectoris like one of the object of
powers later on in the game, butthere's these projectors or

(20:34):
even sometimes it's a monitor orTV where you get to see these
recordings, visual recordingsfrom.
It might be from dr darling, itmight be from somebody else,
and I think those are reallyinteresting and they play into
some of the creepiness, like Ican't remember what they're
called right now, but there'slike these uh, dude, is that
puppet?

Speaker 2 (20:50):
shows.
Is he actually recorded likethat's a human acting right?
That's not the graphics yeah,okay, thank god, I was like I
thought I knew that and feltthat, to be sure, but it adds to
the layer of surrealness andcoolness, I know.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
That's what I was, kind of driving it.
I think that's what was reallycool about this game, because
it's actually a pretty beautifulvideo game.
They did a great job Even onthe Steam Deck.
It's quite impressive and I'mplaying on my PC, which is
pretty baby and it looks realgood, dude.
But the thing is you go fromyour computer graphics to these

(21:25):
like sometimes they'll havelittle cut scenes where you have
there's like an actor thatplays jesse and stuff too, where
you have like some weird, likeby cut scenes.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
He means like you're about half to a foot and a half
away from her temple and she'sgoing.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Ah what, these people seem to know my name, yeah yeah
, so I mean like that stuff, orthey're like polaris will be
doing some weird thing, but orlike creepy fucking dylan's face
, like jesus christ dude.
Yes so, dylan, often those wouldbe like in these cut scenes

(21:58):
you're right is like a littletoo like that.
That invokes like an idea oflike watching like a 30 second
clip, like there'll be quickflashes of like video or
whatever.
Yeah, pull you in it kind oflike.
It kind of adds this layer ofmaking it like feel real, almost
.
Um, yeah, we're talking aboutyeah, they have both.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
They do have some dedicated cut scenes, but they
have a lot of like pseudooptional cut scenes where, like
you'll watch the tvs and likeit'll draw in further and it's
very intentionally placed atthese like dramatic moments in
the game.
It's cool storytelling.
So I get what you're trying tosay there, dude.
So the story of likeenvironmental storytelling

(22:36):
combined with like a differentthing yeah, it's cool it's's
interesting too.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
like on that, like the whole storytelling it is
super immersive because there'sthings that you can turn on a
video and just walk away from itif you're not interested in
seeing the rest, or even like toprogress a storyline and
everything like.
You can just skip all thedialogue if you're just like
whatever, you know, let's justkeep trucking through, which I

(23:03):
am like, fortunately,unfortunately, I don't know, but
I did that a couple times whenI was just ready to move on.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Well, the game is intense and sometimes I'm just
not in the mood for that shit,like you are all stressed out
about a big old fight.
And then there's anenvironmental puzzle and you're
like my brain does not want thisright now.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
I would say that's the thing about this game.
The balance is maybe a littlebit off and we should probably
talk a little bit about that,dude, Because we took a lot this
game should?
I mean, if you're just plowingthrough this game, it should
probably take you.
The internet says it takesabout 20 hours, Something like
that.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I'm not really sure how long you could beat this
game in a weekend.
Totally, yeah, totally, if youwanted and you knew what you
were doing.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, right and it took us three months, dog, to
roll credits.
It's a record, but it's notbecause we're playing every day,
it's because the game itself,even though I, you know, at the
head of the pod I said I likethis game, I do like this game,
but I also just never got hookedto it.
Even at the end I was like I'mjust like happy to be done.
I was like that was cool, thatwas like a really cool story.

(24:03):
I love the gameplay, I love thefighting like creepy, like fun,
but like never once was.
I was like it never, ever oncewas like I need to go to the
next mission, I need to do thenext thing I don't have a
critique, a major critique, ofthe game.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
If I had to objectively review the game, I
would give it a very high score.
I would recommend it to verymany different gamers, but I
wanted to play ncaa football.
Most of the time I had to talkmyself into playing and sit down
to play and then I would enjoyit and then, thankfully, I was
playing on the steam deck, sothe steam deck would die because

(24:40):
this is an intense game afterlike an hour hour and and a half
and I was like that's actuallythe perfect.
The best way to play this gameis in 12 to 15 one-hour chunks.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Dude, and I agree, because the thing is I would
play every time I did pick it up.
I would have a good-ass time.
It's a good game, it's fun, fun, got my adrenaline going.
I like the like I said, I likethe combat.
The environment is cool, likeeverything, like even the story,
like it's interesting there'snot enough, like for sure it's,
and so I didn't want to knowwhat happened.

(25:11):
But it doesn't, and this issomething that I was digging
around the internet a little bitand like that is, a lot of
folks agree that like it doesn'thave that addictiveness, it
doesn't have the like.
I want to do the next thing toit and I don't know if that's a
bad thing or not.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
But yeah, um, whenever I'd get to like a
cleanse point, I was like sorelieved that I could be done,
even though there's other savepoints.
Sometimes the save points couldbe a little wonky.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
That is a sort of critique, uh that's my biggest
problem with the game is thesave points like so you bring up
clad's points, which is likeyour.
I don't even know why I usethis as an example, because I've
never played the uh, the soulsgames, but it's your like fire
bit I guess, um, but like,unlike that, you get re, your

(25:57):
progress is like saved, so it'slike merciful, like some of them
.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, so it can be merciful, but also it can just
be like you can turn off thegame thinking that you'll get
those same checkpoints and thenwhen you reboot, it'll reboot
you to one of those.
I was like, okay, that's notquite how I thought it would be,
but it's okay, it's okay, it'sokay.
Um, what was your favorite?

Speaker 1 (26:18):
gun dude.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
So there's the combat does shine in this game.
And then I'm gonna ask you yourphysical power, favorite kind
of place yeah, fair enough, butso service weapon, so there's
only one genbu sure, fair kindof described that earlier, so
it's your shape shifty pistolyeah, right, right.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
So the service weapon , though, my favorite by far
would be the shatter.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
That's a shotgunny boy, right?
Yes, are you historically a bigshotgun boy as well when it
comes to games?
Yeah, me too, I fuck with theshotgun, for sure.
Big, big shotgun guy.
I remember a buddy of minewe're talking land party, halo
life it was like, wow, stall,you really head for that shotgun
every time.
You're like okay with it.
And I was like, oh, thanks, man, he's like you're really into

(27:04):
it.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
And then I realized that he was kind of like I'm
gonna beat you every time weever play, but I'm glad you
enjoy playing with your littleshotgun bud yeah, dude, I like,
uh, back in the halo days, dude,like a sniper I would, I would
be, there'd be a sniper, ashotgun, two very different
types of gameplay, but like yeahyeah, I was just making fun of
how.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, I'm not gonna be good, but I'm gonna enjoy
myself.
That's how I am with shootyshooty games so I'm also like
you.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
You've never played doom.
Have you like any of the dooms?

Speaker 2 (27:33):
or have you?
Uh, I've played like a half anhour of the original, um, but no
, but like especially I shouldthey're nice.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
We might do it on the pop one of these days, like as
far as like shooters go likeit's it's a lot of it's a good
first person shooter.
Like it's it's nice yeahshotguns dude.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
That's what's up but in this game third person and
also don't have the perfectcontrols the steam deck it's
really cool, the steam deck Deckcould run it.
The Steam Deck ran it prettydang good, yep, but sometimes I
found an extra spike ofdifficulty.
Wow, that was the burp that Iwas trying to mask combined with

(28:13):
somewhere.
We're old school again.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
An extra spike of difficulty due to being on the
Steam Deck.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
So the shotgun track pads at all for anything.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Nah, that's too.
That's too fine-tuned for likethis.
You know what I mean.
Like it's too twitchy.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
What about gyro?
Do you turn that on?
Uh, I think I tried when I wasstruggling with that like
obstacle course.
Jesus fucking christ dude Iremember that course.
I like the first time and likethat didn't actually help
because the processing power ofthe steam deck was a bigger
issue than, like, the actualcontrol, like, so the lag of it
all.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
But anyway, yeah, I'd absolutely of course do the
first of the first time I triedto play this game I had to took,
so I think I'm just better atlike gaming now.
I guess because, like I, Ineeded to use a keyboard and
mouse but the first time I triedto play this game uh, yeah,
dude I I had to use the keyboardand mouse because I couldn't,

(29:11):
like I couldn't hit the targetsfast enough otherwise insane.
Uh, so, big shotgun guy, andthen the extraterrestrial
abilities you have a, you have a, let's let's say, let's hit all
the weapons first, though, likeI do want to hit the abilities
too.
Okay, shotgun 100 sounds likewe're like you know, let's hit
that shotgun.
Uh, you didn't get it, butthere's a gun called the charge,

(29:32):
which is basically a grenadelauncher pretty fucking cool.
Um, I will still give it to theshotgun because, or shatter the
shotgun because, like, that'sthe weapon I use throughout like
90 of the game.
Uh, pierce is, I think, you.
You brought it up, but that'syour, that's like your charged
sniper yeah yeah, which is likeit's nice because it's super
powerful, um, not great, andthat's not so like it was great

(29:55):
for back when I was collectingthat bacteria, like because
there's some enemies off in thedistance.
Perfect for that type of thing.
The majority of the gameplay inthis, I think, is pretty
chaotic, which which presentsitself pretty nicely to a
shotgun yeah, it's superspecifically nice for the late
game stuff, though, and somebosses okay, give me that.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Makes sense, like when I was doing those fucking
gauntlets at the end,specifically the one with the
big ball room, which is not whatit sounds like, but it's this
big prison, prison ball thingthat you're doing.
Whatever to what's your planwith in your hand, bro, looks
like a condom it's a scrunchie,so there we go it's more like a
cock ring uh family podcastmoving forward um grip and spin

(30:37):
the two other guns.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
uh, grip is the one you start with.
It's basically like a pistoland that's another like dude,
like, if I'm playing a.
It's a very satisfying pistol.
It is.
It is indeed, and that'sanother thing, if I'm playing.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I was salty, I couldn't upgrade it more.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, when I'm playing shooters like it is
always kind of fun unlocked it,but after that I was it's too
underpowered, I think, in myopinion.
Maybe I didn't upgrade it wellenough.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Boing.
It's Ace's favorite gun in thegame.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
He just prays and sprays all over the place as
he's running around, but like Idon't know you just have to
unload so heavily into even likemedium-tier enemies just to
take them down with that thing.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Which feels into even like medium tier enemies, just
to take them down with thatthing which feels good.
With the pistol, uh, I feellike I missed too much with the
spin so I didn't use it much.
I think I used it the leastpierce I would take out for
tough enemies, uh, the grip Iwould take off for like fun and
then shatter was like probably80 to 75 of my play was
shattered and it's interestingbecause you get the, you get the
option to load out twodifferent uh guns.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
I think it's like x or square or whatever.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Square on the playstation uh which is
hilarious because I played it onuh, the steam deck slash xbox
layout and that just tells youhow deeply ingrained some
playstation shit is to me.
But yes yes, it is square andit's cool.
It like flips in her hand.
It's very gratifying.
I know some people there's likea niche for like loving how
guns reload and stuff in games.

(32:08):
It's charge based and like timebased, but still like the way
it like flips in her hand.
It's tight.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
So I love that there's not actual ammo in this
game as long as this.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, I don't like collecting ammo in a game like
this.
It's there's way too muchshooty, shooty, bang bang I'm
limited ammo.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
You bring up the charge, so bullshit if I had to
worry about ammo in this gameI'd be so stressed, I was so
pleased to know that they, I wasso pleased that they didn't
have uh, that you didn't have tolike yeah, I was so pleased
there was no reality.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
That's a good, it's a good call yeah, it was very
like I.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I think that was key.
This game with ammo wouldfucking suck balls, right I want
to talk about the powers now.
Al come on, yeah, dog, andthat's like honestly, honestly,
what are we doing?
What?

Speaker 2 (32:51):
minute of the pod is this we haven't talked about
fucking half hour and we haven'ttalked about the fucking powers
more god dude, and that is whatthis game is.
I think that's what makes thisgame?

Speaker 1 (32:57):
beyond, like you know , all the environmental shit
that we talked about, blah, blah, blah like the what this game
is.
I think that's what makes thisgame beyond, like you know, all
the environmental shit that wetalked about, blah, blah, blah.
Like the reason this game isdope dude is because you said,
you said it, you teased itearlier.
You said what the Jedi shitdude like she.
She pretty much just thefucking mouse.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Well, it's funny because I was playing ginger
Jedi Chronicles and then, like,when you for the pod, you play a
game that's too similar.
It just kills that game and I'mlike I'm just getting my jenner
ginger, ginger, jedi fix fromcontrol lady, is she even
red-haired or no?
no, she is yeah well, see, she'sjust my new ginger jedi for the
moment.

(33:33):
Um, but yeah, dude, andenvironmentally like and now I'm
talking about physics, space,like it's awesome the stuff you
can throw.
Like I love getting a fireextinguisher and throwing it at
an enemy and having it poof andlike have a big heavy, like a
heavy bang as it hit them.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
That felt really good , dog, you just asked me what my
favorite weapons are, but like,honestly, my favorite weapon
was the throw.
Like yeah that is the bestthrowing like a couch, what as
far as it, when you uh, becauseI'm like on your skill tree, you
have the option to okay, so weshould hit the different, your
different powers.
You have a shield.
Barely ever used it ever.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Honestly, same um only when I was really confused
and I was pretty much gonna die,so there was not too much of a
point.
Yeah, yeah, never use a shield?

Speaker 1 (34:17):
uh, you have a.
I guess it's like a meleeattack.
Never use that.
One hated that I would hit thewrong one and I'd switch weapons
in front of the person yeah,it's like because I was hitting
the wrong button.
So I just run up to the enemyand I'd switch weapons and get
shot at and I was like, oh noyou have your, your dash, which
is pretty key um, and then youhave you have your I forget what

(34:40):
the cause like a telekinesistype thing where you can take
over the, you can control likethe enemies once they get lower
health.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
That one's pretty cool actually it's very clutch
in the more overwhelming battlesas well.
Yeah, it's good uh and thenthen you.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
It's like a float type thing that you get later on
yeah, float levitate, whatever,yeah is that all of them?
Uh, probably.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, I think that's it, uh, but it doesn't really
matter, dude, because throw isthe tightest, yeah throws the
tightest and levitate could becool, but that's just how you
accidentally lose progress beinga fucking jackass yeah well,
levitate dash or dope.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Like for traversing the for traversing, like the
landscape and everything likethose.
It's it is cool, dude.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Like dodging attacks and stuff, yeah, yeah for
getting rid of and you canupgrade it so you can pick up
when they're weak or whenthey're dead.
You can pick them up and throwthem at each other, and I was
like I fucking love that shit.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
So that's what.
That's what I asked you.
On the skill tree dude.
I maxed out the the throwability because that one's the
tightest one I think I gothalfway.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
I focus mostly on uh health, probably health and uh
having more of the abilities.
Like the your magic bar there'sa different word for it, but in
oh yeah, your magic bar.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yes, word, that makes sense.
Uh, that, that makes totalsense.
Uh, but for me it did makesense because I cheated I
wondered if you would be honestoh, hell yeah, dude, which is
why?

Speaker 2 (36:04):
when you were bragging about oh, you didn't
get the charge gun.
I was like eat a dick dog dude.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
So this game in the options, like in the uh, I
forget what they call it what dothey call it?
Accessibility?
I'm sure, uh, yeah, that soundsright, I think I I hit you up
about it.
I was like so we want, I wantedto roll credits on this one,
dude, and I was like this game Ijust, like we brought up
earlier, just never, like, Inever really wanted to push
through it, dude, I didn't wantto give it like, and I was just
like you know what I'm gonna do,I'm gonna fucking see what's up

(36:30):
.
So in options, they have anassist mode that you can enable
and that allows you to turn on afew different things, including
, uh, immortality, which is like100.
Let's go, if I don't have todie, I'm going to be able to
plow through this game, but thatdoes change.
We talked about this in arecent podcast on these types of

(36:51):
things and I'm very pro them.
I rarely use them, in fact,this is the first.
This is one of the first gamesthat I was like I'm just going
to use these to beat this gameand I don't have any shame in
the fact that I did.
But, uh, but it is one of thosethings where it changes your
experience.
So when I found out where youwere in relative to end game and

(37:14):
I had told you about like justturning on this shit, you good,
you didn't check out the boys no, I just town halls, shit,
vibrations, and then I've beenplaying this spooky game and I'm
home alone in this dark house.
So I just have a copy of a copy.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
So copy of copy of a copy.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Copy of copy word project landfill the dump so I
use this at the dump.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Why were we playing the dump?

Speaker 1 (37:42):
yeah, why were they playing the weird ass?

Speaker 2 (37:44):
kids sweet as shit uh , yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
So I turned that shit on for like the probably the
last two hours of the game, Iwould say, and I plowed through
it and I did so.
It's really cool, though,because you have immortality,
you can also make it so thatyour stamina bar or whatever you
call it, the magic bar samething, pretty much in this, um,
so you can make it.
So that's, you can it.
Whatever you call it, the magicbar same thing, pretty much in
this.
So you can make it.
So that's you can.
It's a scale right.

(38:08):
So you can make it so it usesless or more, or like regular to
like less or whatever.
So I turned that up quite a bitand I turned up the health
quite a bit, which didn't matterbecause I had an immortality.
And then there's other thingsthat you can do, like you can do
like a sight lock, which Ididn't turn on because that
changed the gameplay too muchfor me, but pretty cool, and one
of them may be nice for you onthe Steam Deck, so like,

(38:31):
basically, the Grand Theft Auto,like you know, that type of
deal.
And then you can also do one hitkills which like dude.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
So my like my choke point back out dude dude.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
So yeah, so my to you right, my choke point was
Salvador and we were talkingabout that off mic or off you
know, off discord or whatever,and like I was like, yeah, dude,
like I got to this Salvadordude and he's just fucking hard.
And then I was like, and then Iwas like, okay, yeah, dude, I
got to this Salvador dude, andhe's just fucking hard.
And then I was like okay, youfight him a few times, don't you
?
I don't think so, but like themain.

(39:07):
No, I just fight him once Okay.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
But anyways, he's a tough boss.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
We don't have to go into details on it because I
don't want to spoil too much,but it's a fucking, it's a tough
boss.
And details on it because Idon't want to spoil too much,
but it's a fucking, it's a, it'sa tough boss and I I died a
couple times.
I was like, okay, I'm going tobed, yeah.
And then when I picked it up, Iwas like, hey, I'm gonna try
out these accessibility optionsand I turned on the one it kills
, because I was like they're notgonna want to kill a boss and I
wanted.
I wanted to kill the boss and Iwas like, okay, that sucks,

(39:33):
yeah you felt a little greasydude.
So I so I went back in and I waslike all right, one hit kills.
No, because that also takesaway some of the fun of like
dude.
This is going to be like fuckguns, but like if you're playing
a gun game it's kind of fun tounload the gun.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
So like no, that's what we're here for.
You're right as far as theaccessibilities.
I had to dig it up.
That's why I was uncouth and onmy phone for a second there is
uh on the discord.
I remember reading it on ourlittle chat.
But matt chimed in.
He says that on a second or histhird play for through he quite
literally like really juicedsome of the stuff just so he

(40:08):
could be op and just fucking dohis force awakening all over was
pretty fun dude so I I see thatI see that being a fun little
thing of like.
I just want to rip through thisand like throw everything at
everyone.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
And big ups to developers for including that.
Like I think that's because,dude, like I don't know, I just
think it's.
Like I think that's cool andbut like I was saying to you,
like when I was like a littlebit of me was like proud of you,
bro, I was like thismotherfucker, he plowed through,
he did a peer.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
I was just so close.
Yeah, there's some toughgoblins too.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
So I was like shit is he going to do it?

Speaker 2 (40:44):
It's not the hardest game.
It's just that it taps backinto this weird thing that you
and I seem to strugglespecifically with, where we
enjoyed it but we had to talkourselves into playing it.
It was like a workout.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
We're not alone in this game, though.
Like talk ourselves intoplaying it, it was like a
workout.
We're not alone on this game,though.
I looked at it like I wasdigging around the internet and
this is like a.
This is like a thing with thisgame.
It just doesn't have a hooks.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Whilst being so good, which is very confusing.
But yeah, like if I were likein more of a flow state, I think
a lot of these things would bebetter or easier for me.
Or if it's just I was morefluid in general because I was
playing more frequently, but Ialways played in frequently and
whenever I died it was likeextra frustrating because I was

(41:27):
just like I don't really want topush through right now, but
then when I did, it felt reallycool, like that boss you're
talking about.
Yeah, that was even the firstboss, the first boss, I was like
just plowing through the game.
Then that boss, like was all ofa sudden way harder than
everything else.
I was like oh, I don't feellike I was ready for the level
of strategy I have to implementin this situation, because I'm

(41:48):
just so used to trucking andbeing a fucking brute.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
So yeah, cool, cool set piece bosses, though.
I mean they're cool, yeah,challenges dude they are and
like that's just the thing aboutlike video games are really
interesting in that sense.
So it's like I appreciate thatthey had those accessibility
options and like allowed me todo that because it allowed me to
get to end game, because Iprobably would have shelved this
game again.
Um, and then I was like theyallowed me to like do what I

(42:13):
wanted to do with the game andbut you don't get that same like
that.
The reason that the developersmake it the way they do is
because you can, it feels reallygood to take down those bosses.
Or when you finish like what wecall we've been calling
gauntlets, because they're likethey're.
They're not like boss rushes,but they're like enemy enemy
rushes, so you have to gothrough you're doing waves and

(42:34):
it's very clearly right a momentOof that was rough.
My late dick microphone dropped.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
I tried to do a mild adjustment and it just fell out
of my pants.
Yeah, that was.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Oh, sorry to all those folks that are getting the
raw download.
Oh did it sound awful.
It doesn't sound awful on myend, so It'll sound bad for
folks, but that's the magic ofediting.
Clip that out for folks if theylisten to this later tight yeah

(43:05):
excuse me anyways, but yeah,dude, I think there's one thing
I want to spoil because I wantto talk about it, but let's not.
Let's first give our littlelike, let's give a how many
psych visits out of five?
This game is Like, that's ourscale.
And then who would yourecommend it to, which we teased

(43:29):
a little bit already?
But I want to know your ratingout of five, five psych visits.
And then I want to know who youthink should play it.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Giving it four to four and a half out of five.
Um, but I would caveat it toeveryone and just simply say
that it's really cool and it'sreally cool story and really
dense and the physics are reallycool.
But wait for it to be on like asale for you, because I can't

(43:59):
promise you'll get those hookswe talked about.
So I can promise that you'dprobably get five to ten hours
in it because it's likeaddictive enough for that.
But the 10 to 20 hour push isharder than some other games and
that's kind of bore out throughyour first playthrough.
You probably got five to tenhours in right quit a little bit
more than that, but yeah butespecially if you have like an

(44:19):
impressive uh piece of hardwareto play it on, I'm sure the game
gets even cooler and cooler 100.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
So I would give it three, dude.
And I'm giving it three becausethis is my second playthrough.
This is my first time playingall the way through, but I've
tried to do it back roughly 2019, like not too far after I
dropped, because this was onGame Pass, so I played it on
Game Pass.
I have an NVIDIA 3080, which isnow dated not really dated, but

(44:45):
it's older now and I wanted topush the limits of what it could
do.
This was one of the games thatwas relatively new and was on.
Like when you look like whatare the top graphic games that
you can play?
And they're like control, play,control.
Like when you look like whatare the top graphic games that
you can play?
And they're like control, play,control.
And it's because it has raytracing in which you didn't
really get probably in takeadvantage of with the steam deck
, but the ray tracing, just likethe shadows and the environment

(45:08):
, like it's fucking, it'sawesome, dude, it's beautiful.
Like this game is like looksgreat beautiful is a weird word
because it's creepy but but thisgame.
But this game is like it'sstunning, visually stunning, um,
and it is like you actuallybrought this up, not on this pod
, but like when we've beentalking about this game.
You're like this is like acrazy advanced tech demo and I

(45:29):
feel that too, like I, and likeI do think that like, if you
have a bp system or if you have,like you know, ps5 or xbox
series s or x or whatever, thisgame is gonna look really good.
If you want to play like a game,that looks really good, like
this game, is that?
Uh, if you also are just likewant to do some fast combat,
like fun, like this, this gameis that like?

(45:52):
I do think folks should playthis game, but I am a little
harsh on my.
It's not like I mean three'smiddle of the road dude, that's
not like a tail rating, it'sjust like I never wanted to
finish this game and I wouldn'thave if we weren't doing it for
the podcast um, if you enjoyhuffing the vapors of your steam
deck, this game's perfect toplay it on that too.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Just had to throw that one in.
Dude, didn't want to break offyour uh, your moment there, but
I really had to get that dumbjoke out I love smelling my
steamy d yeah, well, but it'slike it's not, you know.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
So we talked about and this is dude, you're crazy
we talked about this in the podtoo and like, you don't even
play with headphones.
Dude, you're a wild man.
Like it's like on your steamdeck regular speakers like, and
you still got creeped out andstuff that.
That's a testament to this game,because I'm I'm wearing like my
cans, I'm wearing some likesony, whatever the blah blah
blahs and I'm and I'm likeplaying on a fucking nvidia 3080

(46:46):
, like I said, like this gamelooks and I'm in a dark office
or whatever, I'll like close thedoor like I don't come in and
scare the shit out of me.
I'll be like dude, like thisgame has got vibes and I'm not
talking like fun, I'm talkinglike creepy vibes.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Dude, like well, it gets boosted up to the four out
of five for me specificallybecause the conversation that we
had around um disco elysium,where it wasn't always the
easiest or the most fun to playin the moment, but it just made
me keep thinking about itafterwards, like the impact of
this game yeah, I feel like islarger than a three out of five,
but that's your scale and it'sfine.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
It's all subjective I just feel like all average
amount it gets a four then yeah,I mean I've just, I'll just
think about it, not at that samelevel.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
The scholism is obviously like a masterpiece.
I'd have to.
I'd tear that higher for sure,for sure, this is the point I'm
making is.
It's like it's a junior versityversion of that process where,
like, I've played similarenjoyment games but I didn't
think about them, where thisgame all like kind of remember
the experience more than someothers.
So you know, I think it'spretty gnar.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
I'm glad to have had the experience.
I just like, like I said, dude,this is like I tried back in
2019 or whatever, to play and Ijust like, let it go.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
And then I was ready to let it go this time around,
and then I like was like no twocame out, I would play it four
years after it came out, okay,so?

Speaker 1 (48:06):
but here's the deal too.
So I mentioned I got this ongame pass the first time I tried
playing and then over time,over the past like few years, I
picked it up, like I have it onepic and I have it on gog, both
for free.
So if you just like, keep youreye out, you'll be able to pick
this game up for free, like I dothink you should support
developers so like buy this game.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
But hey, mine was like if you could play for free
I don't even think it was for Idon't even think it was for a
holiday.
I think he was just like thisgame's really good.
So at this price it is.
It's worth it for me to buy it,for you to play it at some
point in time, and I did nice, Ilike it well.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
It hits the sales.
If you like, definitely pick itup on sale.
Keep an eye out.
You might even be good for free.
It's worth playing.
Yeah with, with that dude,let's take a break.
Here are my unsexy sponsor whydon't we boot it?
We're not dude I'm.
I'm on a free trial of zencaster fuck.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yeah, all right, dude .
So I already teased it once.
I'm not gonna rope a dope dk.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Surprise ending you oh shit, that's what I just
talked about.
But no, we didn't talk aboutthis.
We did not talk about it, weteased it just we're gonna talk
about it and then we moved on.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
But then I hate when games do that, dude.
I hate when games do thatbecause I'm so excited to be
done.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
That.
Shit was weird.
That was whack dude, that waslike.
I was like what?

Speaker 2 (49:26):
video game adaptation of the hobbit on playstation 2.
Because I did.
No, I got way I think we haveit.
Did you buy it, dude?
I think you bought it, or Ibought it at like a game stop on
the cheap, we do have it.
But I got quite far to like Ithink I bested Smog.
And then there was busy work todo and I was like no video game
, this is the end of the road.

(49:46):
Like I did the thing I set outto do.
Like you give me a cool cutscene and I'm done.
So I protested it and I neverplayed it.
It bothers me, so I hate.
Um, so I hate when games dothis.
Uh well, there's a little treatfor everybody.

(50:06):
That's getting the condéversion of this.
Keep it all in regardless, dude.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
No, I'm coming it's no, dude, it won't flow.
Dude, it was so obvious thatlike, whatever, okay, dude, it's
a big, that's a spoiler.
But it's not a spoiler, dude,it's.
So it's a spoiler.
I saw that coming dude.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Come on, you didn't you didn't come on anyway, um
philly cheesesteaks dude, andI'm gonna get extra weird on you
, which is that sometimes dudeyou don't have to be all fucking
so this bar is unofficiallybrought to you in part by philly
cheesesteaks with your boys, oreven just you know, general

(50:34):
appreciation for chopped up meat, because I have some mild
sacrilege, to admit Sometimesyou know what I?
Like getting from my localneighborhood cheesesteak place
Just the whiz Dude.
So if I'm getting beef I'mgetting cheese whiz on it.
And sometimes I get fried eggsand bacon on it, because you

(50:56):
know what they need more of iscalories, some like, because you
know what they need more of iscalories and you know protein.
That's what they need more of.
So I get fried egg and bacon onthem sometimes, but you know
what I get even more, which isthe more in the sacrilege
territory that I don't even careabout.
I get chicken dog oh wow I get asouth jersey philly, which is

(51:16):
the south jersey is it's likemayo, tomato, lettuce and
vinegar and I get pepidu on thatbitch dude and then I get
chicken.
What?
The fuck is pepidu dude, pepiduis just probably said it wrong.
Don't care, but I'm pretty sureit's like pickled italian
veggie type shit sweet ones wordalmost positive um tonos.

(51:42):
If there are franchises aroundhere, they do.
They do a mean job.
I appreciate them.
And sometimes that chicken youstill get like you're oh, I'm a
fat, I'm a fat little sluteating this big old sandwich.
When you're eating it you knowyou're gonna hate yourself
afterwards.
But afterwards, instead of uh,eight out of ten on the regret
scale of meat sweats, you're atlike a four to maybe even a

(52:02):
three and a half, and if you'vegot a stomach of steel, god
bless you.
But sometimes you're like, hey,I'm gonna save myself a little
bit by having a chicken philly,so sacrilege.
Be damn, dude.
I'll go og cheese whiz and beef, but like chicken mayo,
vinaigrette, get at me, dog dude, I fuck with the cheesesteak.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
But like I said, man, I think I think one, I just
don't feel good at twins and two, it just doesn't like.
Hit that me with that tastethat I thought I was gonna like.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
I don't know, man, I'm chasing the drain al and I
when I was 18 and you were like28 um we used to.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
I'm eight years older than you you're six years older
than me.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Jesus christ dude gee .

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
I like how I said you were 10 years older than me.
You're like hey, I'm only eightyears older than me.
I'm like dog, you're actuallysix years.
You're fucking stupid.
We used to go to uh poppies.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yeah, that's a good time.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
That's what Philly tastes, tasted good, it was so
greasy, it was like you knowwhat it was dude, I think.
I think.
I don't think I'm high enoughwhen I eat be the issue you're
having, um, but I need to smokemore weed before my cheese

(53:23):
steaks, or I had.
I had some whiskey beforehand.
I was like a beer would weighme down before this little
gauntlet.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
I just want to like.
I just want to like give youyour fucking flowers, the fact
that your girl's out of town,your wifey, your wifey's out of
town right now and you're like,you know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna get a fucking phillycheese steak delivered to my
house yeah, served on a bed oftruffle fries dog.
So get at your boy.
What do you dip them in?

Speaker 2 (53:47):
you just go raw on those there's like a garlicky
mayo aioli kind of deal.
Bop dude, if it's aioli it gotbail with it.
I know, but it's yeah, I justpanicked, but it's garlicky
aioli ish thingy.
Then if you go to their storethey actually have like four or
five sauces and a little minifridge set off to the side, so
like that's dope.
They're playing at my heart ina variety of different ways.

(54:10):
Um, I love me a cheesesteak andI agree with you.
So if you find a neighborhoodspot, maybe try the chicken,
maybe that'll, maybe they'llchange.
I don't know.
Somebody's saying beef, though.
I just like the idea yeah, andI'm philly's over chopped cheese
too.
Like I've never I can't get thechopped cheese because once I

(54:30):
found out, it's just acheeseburger that's been chopped
up.
Yeah, like what do you think?
I don't know, it's just people.
When people get excited aboutthings, sometimes you think that
just means there's more to it.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
So let me tell you about chopped cheese.
A chopped cheese.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Whatever dude it's fun.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
No, no, we ain't taking anything.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
You just like the clang and bang of a chopped
cheese.
Is that it?

Speaker 1 (54:52):
I don't like anything but chopped cheese.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
I'd rather have a regular cheeseburger to be
honest, don't like a thing aboutchopped cheese, dude.
I mean I'll eat them.
We're Philly boys, though let'sgo, I'll eat them.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
I'll eat them.
But here's the deal If you'relike, you get to have a chopped
cheese or a Philly.
Even though I've been doggingon like ragging on the Phillies
a little bit, the taste that Iwanted to, I would still get the
Philly Because of the choppedcheese dude, it's just a fucking
cheeseburger that wishes it wasa Philly.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
I would also just like to say Dude stop it.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Don't hit your microphone why you got to touch
that thing, because I'm a littlereckless right now.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
dude, leave me alone.
I'm very bloated right now.
I'm a big boy in this chair,but what was I gonna ramble on
about before you got in the wayof that?
Oh yeah, uh.
Philly cheesesteaks are likealso be wary of them on a menu.
If you're in a neighborhoodthat feels very safe and posh

(55:51):
and like you could have frozenyogurt next door, or like a spin
class.
Like do not buy the phillycheesesteak you are going to be
very upset, go with somethingelse on the menu.
Philly needs to be from adedicated Philly place or it
needs to be from a place thatyou trust their greasy bona
fides.
It's like a Cuban.

(56:12):
You never get a Cuban from somesuburban not good restaurant
that you think is going to nailit because they're not.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
There's so many small things that need to go into it
being done right and uh yeahthat's just your wife.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
He posted a picture of a cuban yesterday.
Yeah, I told her she was a hoefor that, because I was like in
the middle of work and I got,you see that picture.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
I was like tight dog that looked like I didn't even
get to taste.
That I don't even like know.
You know, I just saw that cuban, the way it looked in the
picture.
I was like I wish I ever hadthat.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
She's in Miami for work, which is a phrase that
sounds cool and I don't get tosay things like that.
So I was bitter as fuck.
When she sent that to me, I waslike that's tight, real cool,
home move.
Still obviously appreciated it.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
I saw it on her Instagram and I was like dude
that Cuban she.
And I was like dude that Cuban.
She put it in a little collagepicture or whatever, but I hit
her up.
I was like yo that Cuban,though that looks fire.
Can you slide that Cuban?

Speaker 2 (57:06):
into my DM show.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
I hit her up.
I was like that Cuban lookedfire.
She was like it was, though itwas, there we go, there we go.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
But yeah, man, philly Cheesesteaks, I have a long
brotherly relationship with themand you know, I think what you
need is me by your side.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
I think it probably helped.
Dude, you need to go back to mymom's house and take a big nap.
My youth Probably need my youthof blunt.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
My brother and we'll collaborate with our other
unsanctioned sponsor, the bidet,a necessary companion to the
Philly cheesesteak.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
I work for myself.
Luke, a teacher.
He never had the blunt.
Those blunts are for me.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Those blunts are all for Al, but the bidet is for
everyone.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
The bidet is for everyone.
Get that bidet.
All right, dude Right on.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
That's Philly cheesesteaks.
Now you know.
Welcome back everyone to somesidekicks.
And we are a little slow fromeating philly cheese steaks.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
I'm a little weird for having it be chicken.
But if someone wants to arguewith me, I'll tell them that
they're right and that I don'tcare.
What's up to it between yourchicken phillies and your
fucking mcribs man?
I don't even know, dude don't.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Don't start with the mcrib.
Someone's like you want me tosend you a video on how they're
made.
I I'm like, please, where arewe going to start and stop with
being picky about mechanicallyseparated meat?
Why?

Speaker 1 (58:23):
is McRib, get the ire .
I love it.
You've been side question bro.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Dude.
No, just because my life isjust NCAA football.
So what's the point of callingit a side quest?
You have to call me coach Dukeson this pod Now.
It on this pod now, coach Dukes.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
You want to hear something dorky.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
I made a new coach.
I explained how addicted I was.
Last time we podded I aired outmy grievances about how the
coaching portal stuff was kindof broken.
They have quietly patched that.
I started a new dynasty prettymuch right after that I named my
coach Coach Dukes II.
I'm just very proud of that.

(59:02):
I just needed to say that outloud one time, cause I see it
and I go, ha, that's cool, andno one else.
I told Tricia and she was likethanks for sharing that and I
was like, yeah, sorry.
She doesn't know about LukeDukes.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
She does, oh, she's very aware of Duke's where I
look, dukes um word, word, word,yeah um, so I'm the coach at
lsu now and that's really cool.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
That's like one of my top three coolest jobs in
college jobs.
So there you go really pumpedabout that building the program
I had.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
I had to pull up the stats, man.
So like, when we did, when wedid the college football, when
we did the gospel, you're like,do not, you said the same thing.
You're like, do not say thataloud my hours.
So I was like I won't sayyou're always allowed, but I'll
type them into our discord.
Plug for the discord.
Go join that shit.
Um, in the show notes or youknow, head to the website, find

(59:53):
the, find the link there uh soyeah now.
No, I'm not gonna look up your,I'm not gonna look up your
current hours.
You mind you, everybody luke'shad another month to play
college football, but at thetime of last month, after like
having a like I don't know,fucking three days to play the
game, sir it was longer, he hadplayed three days.

(01:00:14):
Luke had had only three days toplay the game and somehow he
had four days, eight hours in 55minutes.
And somehow he had four days,eight hours and 55 minutes
logged in to this game, which iswild to me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
That's more time he gathered there two days after
recording.
He's lying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Dude, that's more time than I put into 2K the
entire year and that's the gameI probably played the most.
You are a coach, Dukes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
You're coach Dukes.
I'm a full sweat and I'm sureyou're eight days now.
You're probably eight days.
I'm at seven.
Seven days, bro, seven days,dude.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Do you know how many hours that is?

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
uh, it's like 120 to 40 or 50 something.
Yeah, there's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
There's 168 hours.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Dude, that's wild.
That's wild to me.
Good for you, coach Dukes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Uh-huh, yeah, and you know what?
I've slowed down sincereturning to work because the
school year's back.
Yeah, and when I get home, heyman, you ain't going to be the
coach at lsu without puttingthat time dude, I know the
recruits are like hey are youreally dedicated this coach over
here staying up all night and Iwas like I'm trying no, I'm

(01:01:29):
like not as good as I was, whichis mildly frustrating, but it's
okay, because I was cooking alittle too hard.
Um, the game's sick, dude.
They're still fixing stuff.
It's still flawed, but likeit's 85 to 90 of what I wanted
from this game.
So nice um, yeah, we're talkingabout it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
We're talking about it.
The other day, uh, in person,and I was saying like, dude, I'm
happy because I haven't played.
I played very little after wecut our you know, cut our
podcast on it.
Um, because I just like, sorry,I played 2k again, yeah, but uh
, I like it.
Dude, I don't think it's dopeand it's like it's encouraging
to hear that they're fixingthings and, honestly, like me

(01:02:08):
not being not playing any maddenover the past few years, like
I'm very happy to have thisfootball game in my collection,
like, and to be able to play I,um, it's got me tuned into.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
I don't necessarily watch more than like a quarter,
but I've watched like a fewquarters to maybe one game's
worth of college football everyweek and, uh, I certainly kind
of check scores and have ageneral following.
I'm not a diehard, but liketoday I was when the boys were
napping I watched a little bit,but that just made me want to
play the game, so it doesn't gotme watching all the time but

(01:02:42):
it's, uh, it's more football,and I think that's dope.
And uh, yeah, I think I thinkthat's the only other game I've
played, so just footballs allthe way back, which is dope.
Love that that's justindoctrination time.
So if you're a significantother out there that doesn't

(01:03:04):
like your children watchingfootball, it doesn't count for
your regular screen time hours.
There's a difference betweenBluey or your Disney stuff or
your YouTube stuff and football.
Football is almost likereligion stuff, so they're
allowed to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Dude, now that they've cut all these new deals
and everything like, I'm gonnabe able to watch a lot more
timberwolves over thetimberwolves season, which can
be exciting because I have someof the streaming platforms that
they'll be landing on.
I think like 25 ish games, 28ish games or something that
we'll be able to watch on that'sgood via amazon and via like uh
, I don't know, or some bullshit, I remember excited for sports

(01:03:38):
to come to amazon simply becauseI just have amazon, whether I
want it or not yeah, fair enougharound so might as well have
sports on it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
So fuck yeah, dude.
Major side quest major lifequest.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Ncaa football coach right on dude do you have one?

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
do you game, even reading, or something fucking
lame like that?
I did that like nah, nah, booksare tight dude whatever, I'm
keeping another one.
I was gonna go into that, butyou know so I've been.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
I don't want to hear about your books.
Nah, what book you reading?

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
nah you go.
Well, good for you readingbooks.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
I continue to read comics, dude, so I was like
doing a whole bunch of the X-Menstuff a while back.
I'm all in on the Star Warsecosystem now, or whatever you
want to call it.
There's a few different runsthat are kind of all.
You know how comic books work,dude.
They're all like crossoversShit.
Well, not multiverse, butcrossover type stuff Basically.

(01:04:40):
You've got your Star Wars, sobasically you've got your star
wars run.
You've got your bounty hunterrun, you got your dr afra,
you've got your darth vader.
Uh, I think those are like thefour major ones that are kind of
intertwined in this new and areyou buying these or is it the
subscription?
no, dude, it's uh, it's themarvel ultimate or whatever.
Dude it's uh that I paid forthe year I got it around this

(01:05:02):
time in november for for blackfriday dude, and I want to say
that, like 50 off, I want to sayit was like 40 bucks or
something.
Well worth the fucking money inmy opinion.
Um, yeah, so keep your eye outif you guys are interested in in
in comics, like honestly, likeI know that there's other like
services to to read comic books,like um, you comic books I
can't remember the app right nowbecause it's not available in

(01:05:23):
Minneapolis.
There's some cool apps outthere where you can get comic
books for free and stuff.
Anyways, the Marvel Unlimitedhas been great.
It's got me tempted to.
I'm going to see what's up thisfall and this Black Friday
season, whenever that comesaround, or whatever, to see if
DC does something similar,because I would love to read

(01:05:43):
some Batman stuff.
Spread your wings, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
But the Star Wars has been great dude.
I don't think so.
I bought the first three in agraphic novel run.
It's supposed to be crazy good,so I will pass those along to
you once I finally get done withmy public library book that I
gotta return, and then I'm gonnaget to those next right on uh,

(01:06:09):
but yeah, so I've been readingthose.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
That's been a major side quest of mine and then,
like I'm at the video game thingthat I bring up, dude is, uh,
so I caught the covet again.
Uh, again being like back andlike I, like me and me and the
wife being like back in, like meand me and the wife.
He caught it back in 2020-ishor whatever, when it was new and
everybody was getting it.
And then but I did, we fuckingthe whole family came down with

(01:06:31):
it about three-ish weeks ago now.
Oh shit, that's just garbage,yeah right, but, dude, it was
just terrible, man, like it's.
It's like it hit me worse thistime than it did my first time.
First time I was like sick fora day or two.
This one like got me for asolid week.
Dude, I was miserable, layingin bed.
A lot, a lot harder now that wegot a baby and it's like I just

(01:06:52):
like, not only does it suck tobe sick, it feel bad like not
pulling your weight as far aslike taking care of your
children, that kind of that typeof thing.
Um, but anyways, you know,laying in bed, you don't, you
know, do so much.
So I have my steamy d and Ihave, uh, I've got that.
So I had, dude, I have starfieldand I was like I'm just gonna
like jump into starfield and Ipoured probably I don't even

(01:07:15):
know the real hours, but like,dude, like I poured a bunch of
time into the fucking get out ofhere.
I poured a bunch of time intostarfield man, and it was great.
Like I picked up my old file.
Uh, just started like justmoving around in that, in that
universe, dude, like playingaround doing stupid side quests,
like pushing the main storythrough.
I still haven't like I stillhaven't gotten to the end game

(01:07:37):
in that, but I'm I feel like I'mpretty close because like I'm
what they're talking about,stuff going on.
But that was like um, I justlike, even though we had, like
had control on the docket, andthat's a shooty, shooty, bang,
bang.
Like there's just somethingabout a first person that I was
like kind of digging, it's a waychiller vibe yeah, totally, and
then.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
And then there's that too and like it'd be a tense
game, very tense game.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
So you have to be in the mood for it and that and
that's what I needed.
Man, like I don't know, it'sbeen a long time since I've been
sick.
And then also, like it can betricky when you're sick to play
video games or do anythingbecause, like, depending on how
that experience goes, couldreally sour, at least for me.
Like I remember my youth,there's a couple times playing
like, uh, um, was that the nbaon nbc, which is like a, which

(01:08:22):
is like a basketball game?
There's a lot like nba jam forthe n64 and I pushed through it
because I really loved that gamewhen I was a kid.
But there was a solid likecouple months, so I played it
when I had a fever or whateverand like, whenever I played it
would make me feel likephysically ill because I
associated it with that timethat I was sick, um, so I guess
maybe that might happen to methe next time I load up

(01:08:42):
Starfield.
But for me it was a nice escape, dude.
It was great to be able to gointo there and just go around
the universe.
I know that game is very mixedreviews, but I dig it.
Man, I'm glad to know that it'sgoing to be there for whenever
I just want to jump back in andfly around on my fucking
spaceship.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Yeah, I had it on Game Pass, so maybe something to
buy it up, because I kind ofliked some of the stuff I was up
to and they continue to add toit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
So yeah, unlike, unlike control they so I
remember I forget what the call,but there's like this new they
added that modding thing to it,where like to it, where you can
do your mods or whatever, evenon your systems, on your
consoles, but if you turn themon it doesn't allow you to get
trophies, whereas Control youcan still get your Chivos, even

(01:09:35):
with the sub-arm, which I waslike that's sweet, because I was
pissed.
I was like fine, I'll plug andplay Piercece starfield, which
is peniel starfield kind ofwhack, but not super whack,
because, like, obviously play it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
But there's certain things.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Field achievements was like I don't know, dude,
it's like elizabeth, it's likeelizabeth thing.
I'm not even a chivo hunter, Iwas just like I don't even know
why that is.
But, um, but there's somethingabout it that I was like fine, I
won.
I won't like make it.
So I turn off, like the weightcapacity or whatever, which is
like that's like one of theworst things in that game is a
stupid way to fix your interface.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Stupid game, bad interface, right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
But dude, it was.
There's a couple of missionslike I did, some like a handful
of side missions.
I really lean into my likespace scoundrel, like set up for
the dude and like just try anddo and some weird stuff.
But there's something thatstill bug me about that game.
Like uh, for example, if youare rolling with a one of your
uh companions or whatever,especially if it's someone that

(01:10:32):
you're trying to romance, andthen you get attacked in space
and then you take out thatspaceship for attacking you,
they get really mad at you andlike they get all pissed off for
killing innocents.
I'm like dude, they weren'tinnocent, they attacked me.
Why you got out?
Like come on, I thought we hada thing going.
I thought we're going to getmarried.
They're like no, whatever.
So so yeah, so fuck that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
But was in the middle of like a really cool mission,
but I was also mad like becauseI got picked up for having some
illegals on my ship that I don'teven know that were on my ship,
because the inventory system'sso garbage oh sure yep, but then
the space marines wanted me tobe a double agent with the
fucking space pirate dudes and Iwas having a good time going

(01:11:16):
back and forth between them, butI was trying to do some side
missions where I was justdelivering organs oh sure just
typical black market shit, youknow, just to ship space organs
and uh, all of like the skillsand abilities you need are like
super advanced just to have likehidden cargos.
And I'm like what am I?
How am I supposed to be?
Like space pirate stuff?

(01:11:36):
Like the game tries to do atrillion things and does most of
them clunkily but does a decentjob on a lot of them.
So it's an interesting.
It's like the most seven out often game, six and a half out of
ten game I've ever seen in mywhole life yeah, that's dope.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
I'm glad to own it.
I'm glad to own it.
I know it's not like uh, it'snot top tier, but I'm glad to.
I'm glad to have it in the inthe collection.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Hey man, seven out of ten is still like more than
playable, that's true, six outof ten is still more than decent
, so it's not like what are?
You putting on a scale of five,though, dude.
That's why I hate when youwould hit me with the fives I'm
always like slow five gamingdude.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
I gotta have some memes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Brand synergy dude, then it would have to be a three
to three and a half yeah, thereyou go see, that's what I'm
saying, that's what I'm gonnaput control to look at me
dividing by two dude, that'scrazy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Uh, that's been a big one, dude.
It's not a side quest, but Iwant to pour one out for game
informer man.
That happened the that justlearned.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
They're minneapolis based when they closed.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
That makes me extra sad yeah, I'm surprised you
didn't know that.
But um, yeah, I've known acouple folks that have worked
with them over the years game informer lifetime was when I was
a teen to pre-teen so I wasn'tpaying attention to any of that
shit, but yeah, I subscribed onand off.
Um, I'm not super surprisedbecause, like they had this like
super awesome deal to get thephysical subscription for like

(01:12:59):
20 bucks for the year and I waslike this sounds like you guys
might close soon, uh, and that'swhat happened.
But I, but I did get thesubscription.
Do.
The wild thing too is so, uh,so like game spot or game stop
is like the they're the owningcompany of game informer, um, so
they sent out an email andthey're like, hey, like um, you

(01:13:20):
know, we I don't remember thefucking email said basically it
was like, if you want areimbursement, email us.
I was like, dude, yeah, youlike, granted, it was only 20
bucks for the year, but I wantmy like 10 bucks back because
you fucking axed this whole teamand, like I'm pissed off, they
didn't even keep their archivesup dude, they pulled that shit

(01:13:41):
where they blew up the archives.
Yeah, they like just blew up thelike.
I don't understand that at all.
They just like that is just.
Yeah, they destroyed thewebsite.
That hopefully, like.
I think that I don't know, Ihaven't been following it close
enough.
I'm hoping that someone hasthat like archive somewhere.
But yeah, dude, gamestop liketook down the whole website and
everything publicly accessiblearchives correct it's kind of
like that's whack but yeah, it'slike why, why would you do that

(01:14:03):
?
But whatever, it's not that itdoes not that expensive to keep,
yeah, but to take on thedigital too, though, dude, like
it's not that expensive to haveyour servers, like keep that
live, like it costs probably.
Honestly, it probably costsGameStop $300 a year to keep
that website live, like not todo all the salaries and stuff,

(01:14:25):
but the actual website to be up,like it's like come on, guys,
did you really have to take thatdown?

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
No, they did not.
This is the most millennialEnglish major rant of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
I just want you to know that.
Hey man, Physical media for thewin.
It's very accurate.
And RIP.
Hey man physical media for thewin and rip like.
A lot of cool folks work thereand it sucks that they all lost
their job so a new game stop.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
The game stop and also the monoculture.
I mean, there's still some goodgaming websites, but they seem
to be consolidating indeed,which is a bummer well, right on
, dude, glad to play control.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Always a good time chatting, bro, but we should
bring this one to a close.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Yeah, and I'm just going to say that you exposed
that my wife wasn't at home withme.
So I'm glad I'm not playingControl tonight, because last
night it was spooky trying tosleep dude A lot of paranormal
zone on here, dude.
A lot of checking my six dude.
I was like what's going on?
Who, Dylan the dump?
Why, when am?

(01:15:26):
I A copy of a copy of a copy ofa copy.
What are you trying to tell me?
He said whoa, whoa, dimension,yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Indeed.
Glad you haven't played thisone.
What are we playing next?
Have you locked that on yet?

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
play this one.
What are we playing next?
Do you have you?
Have you locked that down yet?
Yeah, I'm whoop-dee-dee,scooping you, dude.
Oh wow, what are we doing?
Two things, uh, a compelling, acompelling love letter was
written to me.
It was spoken aloud to me,composed, delivered from tyler,
saying he wants to co-play zeldaand we're a zelda pod in our
heart so we kind of have to beon top of the zeldas.
So that comes out in like two,three days.

(01:16:01):
Right, that sounds about right,the new one.
So so we're gonna play the newzelda, first playable zelda and
like their own mainstay mainmainline is that part of that,
is that part of the gamingmechanics too.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Can you play two players in that or some shit?
No, just playing it at the sametime being in the zeitgeist, oh
I was like whoa that'd be coolyeah, well, tell him to get his
ass into chat so we can hearabout his experience he.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
You know he will, he will.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
He's been officially bullied, so he knows right now
hell yeah cool man echoes ofwisdom and if you're listening
to this, thanks for bearing withthe uh, you know, we didn't
even have any burps.
Maybe I don't need to edit thisone, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Well, you know, I had some noises and I did my best.
Okay, I did my best.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
It's all good, bro, it's all good.
I will get this one to editbecause it's always fun to sneak
in some sound effects and somelittle tunes from Control and
whatnot.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Get your butt rock of Asgard in there.
I know you love his home.
That's true.
That was pretty, if I can call.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
But yeah, hit up the website low5gamingcom.
There's an invite to ourDiscord there.
You can buy some t-shirts ifyou want.
You can check out a couple ofarticles that both Luke and I
have written.
Luke's got a really cool.
What do you want to call it?
Dissertations Cool shit aboutgaming and education in there.
That's worth checking out ifthat's something that interests
you.
Um, but yeah, join us in thediscord.

(01:17:26):
Uh, share this shit out.
Tell your friends holler or not.
Holler at you should holler.
You can holler at mw in ourdiscord recently joined.
I'm gonna holler at mw.
What up?
Dude, thanks for joining thediscord.
Uh, pretty cool man.
He found us because he'slooking for the disco elysium
pod or a pod on disco elysium.
Found us and then I'm prettysure he just downloaded our

(01:17:47):
whole backlog, has beenlistening to us, so that's
really.
That's rad man.
I don't know if you're gonnaget it this far in this episode,
but if you do, you're a coolperson and you're also where do
you say he was?
From Ireland, which is alsocool.
That's fucking cool man.
Dublin, he's from Dublin.
Yeah, we're like family, brodude.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
MW.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
I love it, man, cool alright, y'all alright, bro,
much love peace pew, pew, pew.

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