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Alex and Luke share their Top Five Games That Defined the Nintendo Switch.

From launch titles to surprise late-era gems, the Switch has built a legacy as one of Nintendo’s boldest and most beloved consoles. In this episode of Low Five Top Five, the guys break down the games that shaped the system—whether through sheer cultural footprint, unexpected innovation, or just endless hours of personal joy.

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Luke (00:08):
Well, hello and welcome to Lo Five Gaming.
We are having a funeral.
A happy funeral.
A remembrance for our dearestof friends, the Nintendo Swede.
Yes, the Switch's swan song.
Yeah.
We we're still playing games,we're still big dorks, uh, but
we're not good at um commitment.

(00:29):
Nor intros.
This is low five gaming, andyou've got your hosts, Luke and
Alex.
Me being Alex, this big Luke.
What up, bro?
What up, what up, what up, whatup.
I was in the middle of a deeprant that you need to let me
finish.
Uh please continue.
What the switch 2 is out, anduh, we are not gonna buy a
switch to we can get into thatlater yet.
I mean, I mean I'll get oneeventually.
I'm sure we'll both own oneeventually, but this is uh more

(00:52):
of a just thinking back of oneof my favorite all-time, if not
my favorite all-time console, isprobably the Switch.
So I was like, as the Switch 2comes out, instead of
celebrating the new hardware, Ikind of want to think about I
want to yearn.
I want to wax romantic.
I can dig it, dude.
So this is another switch.
This is another low five topfive.
Yeah, the Switch version.

(01:12):
Switch.
But specifically, the Switchgames that define the system,
right?
For us.
For us, our experience.
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna putthat in the in the title for
SEO purposes, but you know.
You know, I understand thosewords.
Um yeah, so I was thinking, andI was just like, this is not my
five favorite games on theSwitch.

(01:33):
That list would look similar,but not.
It's more just like what kindof when I think back of the
Switch, good or bad, what arelike games that'll kind of
define my time with it?
So there's not too many rules.
I think one of the only thingsis I'd say is like uh I'm
personally not gonna include anyof the NSO store emulation

(01:53):
games.
Did you?
Uh it's funny that you broughtthat up because as I was
figuring out mine, I was like,NSO, would that count?
Because I mean, I'm just gonnathrow it out there right now as
like an honorable mentionbecause I think the NSO is
important to the Switch.
I spent a decent amount of timeplaying some of the old N64
games and some of the we playeda few pods, like I think Metroid

(02:13):
I play on there.
It was like a cool tool.
It's definitely part of thestory.
I was excited when those gotreleased, so it's worth
mentioning for sure.
Yeah, dude.
So today we are recording inJune, June 11th, I believe.
Something like that.
June 10th, June 11th.
Confirmed.
Right on.
11th.
But the switch came out inMarch 3rd, 2017, brother.

(02:34):
It's 2025 right now.
Long times ago.
Long times ago.
Dude, that's wild.
That's a different man then.
Five eight, eight, nine years,something like that.
Yeah.
Dude.
That's a long life.
Yeah, it's for a system.
Abnormally long for a system.
It's Nintendo-y as hell,because it just exists in its
own little Nintendo pocket.
And also, like, I thinkproduction chain chip shortage,

(02:56):
nonsense, delayed its life.
But it also sold like amotherfucker the whole time.
It did.
So why would you let go of thisbeautiful cash cow?
They did some interestingthings with that along the way,
too.
Like you've got your originallaunch system with the LCD
screen.
You've got the Switch Lite,which came out a couple years
after the the first one, uh theoriginal launch, I believe.

(03:18):
Yeah.
Uh, and then eventually we gotthe Switch OLED, which you've
never tasted.
No, it's a it's a luxury morethan a novelty.
Once you go OLED, you don't goback.
Sure.
I'm a tech toy guy, though, youknow.
Yeah.
And you know, I my old Steamy,it's not dirty.
Edit that out.

(03:39):
Don't tell my Nintendo Switchabout my mistress, the Steamy D.
Doug, that's part of this,though.
That's like part of that's partof why I'm not like yearning
for a Switch 2.
The Steamy D did come in andkind of fill that the void that
I feel that Switch 2 fills.
I would say that Nintendorevolutionized the handheld with
the Switch, which it did, butit's also kind of funny because
Nintendo's always had thatmarket.

(04:00):
They just found a way to likemodernize.
It's like they brought thehandheld gaming into just
regular gaming.
I actually saw an article aboutthis and I didn't read it.
So I read a headline.
It's the most 2025 chipawesome.
For sure, for sure.
But I'm not going to be able todo that.
I can't even credit thepublication because I just
scrolled right by.
But it did it did hit though.
Um it was probably Kotaku orsomething, but uh the the person

(04:24):
who was writing there writingabout how they they yearn for
handheld gaming when it was itsown thing.
Because now I understand itbeing like a big Game Boy head
and like you know, having all myhandheld, like you know, that
there was a time when developersspecifically made games right
all the way up and to honestlythe s well Sony did some things

(04:46):
that like kind of brought thehandheld world into like kind of
like their their PS Vitas,probably, but that was a bit of
a flop.
So like Nintendo truly likeknocked it out of the water,
like bringing it bringing uhbringing like system games to to
your hands.
I would say the Switchre-sparked my joy of gaming

(05:07):
because I was coming out ofcollege and I did have a PS4,
and just the Switch came alongand like really sparked kind of
an an obsessive little streakthat remains a bit to this day.
Um and it's so funny.
I I told you earlier we'llprobably start off with uh

(05:27):
because I don't think we'd bepodcasting about video games if
it wasn't for the Switch, to behonest.
100%.
And we'll we'll go over all ofour our Switch games that we've
potted about later.
Um but just the general storyof getting the Switch, I didn't
know I was never a Wii guycontroversially.
I I am, but only like you know,I only bought one probably
three months ago.

(05:47):
He's just got himself a Wii.
No, when the Wii came out, Ithought it was cool, and there
were some fun games.
I had a friend uh growing up,we'd go over to his house and
play it.
I thought it was fun and cool,but I actually always hated the
motion controls.
I was always like it was like agimmick where like our Uncle
Jim had a fucking Wii, dude.
Yeah, no, for sure.
Like just random people wouldhave like everybody had a Wii.

(06:08):
That's like a trope.
Like the not that Uncle Jim notsaying you're fucking in a
nursing home, but like for sure.
But you know, the Wii in thenursing home is like a trope.
Uh yes, but like your mom'sfriend had a Wii.
Right, right.
So but I love the GameCube.
I love the GameCube.
Um and then she didn't sellGame Busters, actually.

(06:29):
Oh, which is crazy.
They had so many slappers onthat system.
But you can actually play this,is like doesn't fucking matter,
but you can you can playGameCube games on the Wii Dude,
the Wii was fucking dope.
Uh yeah, you know, I'veactually heard people are pissed
that like the the Wii shopnever really like the Switch
didn't do it quite as good asthe Wii.
Time will tell though.
I do feel that from what I'veheard in Rumblings, the Switch 2

(06:51):
will likely bring life to a lotof the like motion control Wii
stuff that oh word.
Yeah.
Uh what I was gonna say thoughis that I didn't even know when
the Wii U came out.
Yeah, same.
So like when people tellstories about like people being
confused.
I never did the handhelds, butI digress.
Like, um, like I remember Kevwas like, I bought a Wii, and I

(07:13):
was like, what's this pad thing?
And then like I don't even knowif he knew and he bought it.
I don't think he knew that hebought like technically a brand
new system.
Sure.
So when they talk about peoplebeing confused as this, this
necessary is this new, 100%true.
So I bring all this up to saythat I was not like when the
Switch was getting released, Iwasn't like super hyper fixated,

(07:34):
like, oh my god, new systemcoming out once Nintendo got up
their sleeve.
I was a hundred percentsleeping on Nintendo.
Now let's see, 2017 is what wesaid, right?
So you would have been youwould have been a college
graduate, correct?
Yeah, I was in yeah.
It's a full on full-on adult.
I was in like uh I want to sayit was the first summer outside

(07:57):
of teaching.
So like I had a full full yearunder my belt.
I was entering my second year.
This is so long ago I don'texactly remember the like the
hype cycle or even the firstannouncement, but I do know I I
wanted one.
I do know that like well thewant is funny because part of
the want was the fact thatnobody could get them, right?
Right, dude.
And we were and we and then allthese I was starting to listen

(08:19):
to podcasts around this time,and uh I'll shout them out
because they're cease, they'resince they no longer exist, but
I remember fondly listening toAchievement Oriented, right on,
which is through the ringer,it's Ben Lindbergh and at the
time, Jason Concepcion and someothers would cycle in and out,
but uh they were talking, and Iwas just listening to various

(08:40):
people's podcasts about Breathof the Wild specifically, and I
was just like the switch was thethe Zelda machine for a while.
And I your story's funny.
Uh I'll start off with Ace'sactually.
Boing boing.
Uh Ace was calling like everytarget in a certain mile rate.

(09:01):
Dude, I was calling Best Milesand shit too for like a few
weeks, and then I want to say itwas like West St.
Paul had one.
He's like, All right, see youin 1015.
And he just drove out and hebought one.
And I think this part I don'tremember, but I think he might
have got one of the lessdesirable uh colorways.
That was the one that was Ithink that's what happened to
you, is it not?
Yeah, kind of you had the grayone, your first one?

(09:22):
No.
Oh, you had the blue one.
I had the option I had becauseI like a spoink.
I would uh I would like go toTarget just to see if they they
had it in stock.
I would call Targets, I wouldcall Best Buyers to see it and
they'd be like, nah, bro.
I've never done this, by theway.
Like, I've never like chased aconsole, it's always just been
available to remember when weget them.

(09:43):
I don't even remember why I wasout.
Like I was out in like one ofthe like closer ring suburbs or
whatever, uh doing somethingwith my wife, like picking her
up or something, and I waswaiting, and I looked up on my
phone to see the closest liketargets and best buys and called
them to see if they had aswitch, and they didn't.
I was like, oh shit.
But that's how like that's likethe level of like how I was

(10:03):
trying to shop one of thesethings.
And it was all you heard waslike Mario Kart was like, hey,
it slaps on there, and they'relike the fucking Zelda game,
like you need to play it, it'sgonna change everything for you.
It's crazy.
And we were Zelda launch game,Breath of the Wild?
Yes, okay, it was like uhsimultaneous as far as you could
play it on the Wii U too.
Oh, that's right, that's right.
Um, but we you know we're Zeldaboys, and I hadn't played a

(10:26):
Zelda game like in ages, so Iwas just like super hungry for
it and super into it.
And I was a you had one, I hadplayed it at your house.
I had the switch before you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because we uh we you wereshowing me Zelda and then you
ran into one of the Yiga clans.
Oh yeah, yeah.
And uh you were like trying toshow them you're like, oh fuck,

(10:48):
and you like got it like set upin chair because like you were
pretty early on and you'retrying not to get spanked
because it was like the firsttwo minutes after showing me the
game.
Yeah, sure.
Um, so that was hilarious.
But I was like the dog who hadbeen like I wasn't at the same
level as you uh as far as tryingto hunt it down, but like you
know, my wife's always trying togo to Target.
I mean, like I mean, the wholelike part of bringing up the

(11:10):
story of how hard they were tofind, like it was like
disheartening.
Like, you like why even go ifyou know you can't get one
anywhere, like why even bother?
Yeah, so I would just my wifewould be like going to Target,
and I'd be like, Oh yeah, we cango to Target.
Yeah, you want to come with?
Like, usually you're yelling atme for going to Target all the
time.
I was like, You need to go, doyou need to get anything at
Target?
And I would just run overthere, and then one day it was
there, and I felt like the dogwho like caught up with the car,

(11:33):
and I'm like, the fuck do Iactually do with this thing?
A lot of F-words for me today.
I'm gonna settle down.
Some of a being in person gotme riled up.
Woo! Woo! But anyway, uh, so Igot it, and then it's so funny,
I was kind of laughing becauseuh the first game I got was
Mario Kart.
Oh, word, yeah.
It wasn't even Zelda because Ineeded to like in, or did you

(11:54):
buy it?
Dude, I bought it, and mytheory was like, because we you
know, I was like a year out ofcollege.
Yeah, and I was not like thedisposable income wasn't there,
sure, right?
So like I'm just about to dropa few hundred on something we
definitely don't need.
So I was like, but babe, we'llplay together.
So my first game was it like350 at the time?
350, I want to say, you know,300 with getting a game like

(12:17):
that, yeah, probably 2017, 2017.
But yeah, so Mario Kart wasactually my first game, and I
got it and I brought it home andwe played it, and I was super
pumped.
So that's my story.
Uh, I like how your story ofhow you got your Switch ended
because it's the silliest.
Dog, so I yeah, I like yousaid, I've been trying to find
one all over the place.
Wasn't gonna buy onesecondhand, or not second hand,
but like uh the secondhandmarket, uh, because fuck that

(12:40):
dude, the scalpers.
Yeah, I mean we wanted one, butwe weren't like gonna pay
through the nose.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
But uh so I was doing the wholeTarget thing, calling around,
doing a little bit of that.
Definitely wanted one.
Finally found there was oneleft at Target, and it was like
the gray colorway.
And I was like, oh, but Ireally want like the like

(13:01):
bearing, you're bearing thefunniest detail.
No, no, no, hold up, dude.
I'm not done.
Oh, okay.
So I really was so I wassitting there looking at it, and
then another customer came upand like like swooped in and got
it, and I was like, Okay, okay.
I guess that's meant to be,like, I'm just not meant to buy
it, I guess.
Like, also fuck you guy.
Yeah, but like whatever, youknow.
Uh so my wife and I go onvacation to Hawaii.

(13:24):
Yeah, dude, we're in Hawaii,and we go to Target to like buy
some things or staying atAirbnb, you know, got to stock
up.
And dude, the Hawaii Targetlike was flush with Nintendo
switches, and I was like, baby,what if this was my souvenir
from from Hawaii?
And she was like, send it,dude.
Like, just go for it.
She's probably heard youfucking talking about it.

(13:45):
Oh, she knew I wanted one, sheknew I was trying to get one.
But like when you're invacation mode, there's like two
types of vacation mode.
There's like, I can't spend anymore money.
This has been so expensive, andthen there's the I'm on
vacation, dude.
I'm on vacation.
Plus, I already wanted thething, like, dude.
So I bought it.
But a switch on vacation ishilarious, dude.
Hello, dude.
And then like to have it in abox, like in box, like

(14:06):
underneath my like on the planeride, like you know, like coming
home with my switch.
I was so happy.
So are you not rocking it onthe plane?
Or I think I was, but I had thebox and everything, you know.
Oh, sure, sure, sure.
Dude, just wild.
Uh, but that's how I got theswitch.
I got a Hawaii switch.
Nice.
Unfortunately, I don't havethat uh launch switch anymore.
Upgrades.
I sold it.
I sold it for the Olid, whichum yeah, which I I don't feel

(14:28):
bad about.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you know, it's a funstory.
But yeah, dude got the Hawaiiswitch back in 2017, and it was
the Zelda machine at the time.
It's funny, dude.
Like the uh now in in the goodin the year of our Lord 2025,
people talk about how vast andamazing the Switch library is.
Yeah.

(14:48):
But back in 2017 when itdropped, dude, it was like a
drought.
There was like you had Zelda,it was a Zelda machine, and you
had Mario Kart, and it was like,what else are you gonna play?
Like so we'll actually get intothat.
Fuck me, man.
Yeah, yeah.
We might have bought some sillygames.
Transition to my first game onmy list, and I it has to be on
yours.
We just get it out of the way.

(15:09):
Sure.
So one of mine is Breath of theWild.
Hold up, hold up.
I'm doing mine low five topfive.
Low five top five.
You can you can do it like fiveto one, one to five.
What's your plan here?
Mine are likesemi-chronological because they
tell they tell little storiesabout little trends that I have
in little moments.
Yeah, we're a little we're alittle scatter shot.

(15:30):
That's all right.
Let's just call it that.
So I'll just do five.
Cool.
No, we'll do one.
This is one.
This is the first.
This is my first love.
So I already said that.
So I played Mario Kart for likea week or two, and then I was
like, all right, it's gonnastop.
Let's stop pretending like thisis why I bought this system.
So I went and God Zelda and wasjust immediately obsessed.
I've told it too many times onthe pod, don't care.

(15:53):
I still find it absolutelyhilarious to just myself that
like I was summer breaking, andI was I would play, I'd wake up,
the wife would get up, go towork, and I'd just start
grinding, handheld, and then I'dput it in the TV, and then I'd
play all day, and then I'd putit in the TV like in the early
afternoon for sure.
Cause then when she'd get homefrom work, it'd be charged

(16:15):
because like I kid you not,dude.
It'd be like 10-15 minutes oflike small talking about your
day, and I'd be like, Well, I'vebeen busy all day, might as
well play uh Yoda for the firsttime totally.
And then I'd rock like anotherfew hours before bed, and like
I'd bring it into bed because oflike, of course, this is a good
one.
What a fun pocket, dude.
Just fucking dude.
If I could live in it, noresponsibilities.

(16:37):
I'd love to time travel forlike a day, but usually for like
cooler things than this.
But this has got to be like torecapture that level of
obsession, I think is it's Ihave been chasing that high
since.
Like, no game has even Tears ofthe Kingdom could not I get a
little tastes of that, but I Iknow what you're saying.
Like, never fall on like thismy day is this, and I'm no yeah,

(16:58):
yeah, for sure.
And then like if we want totalk like zeitgeist, like just
introducing it to other people,getting other people to play, uh
talking to them about it, allthese like specific memories and
the noises, and like it justmade me it just made me
obsessed, dude.
And I was just so I was layingin bed and then my arms would
get numb because laying down andlike holding up your switch,

(17:20):
especially before they came outwith the fancy switch bras that
we like to use.
Yeah, yeah.

(18:21):
Like it was so bad.
And then I'd be like, my handswould be feeling weird and it'd
be running low on battery, andI'd be like, I woke up and
played this, played it all day,took like small breaks to like
do dishes so I didn't look likeI played this all day.
And then I'm like, she's asleepand I'm still playing this
thing.
So loved it.
Dude, hell of a game.
Uh the avid listener will knowthat I think the Legend of

(18:44):
Zelda, Breath of the Wild, uh ismaybe is that not on my top ten
of all time?
You might have done somethingfunky.
Yeah, like an honorable mentionor something.
It certainly worked intoanyways.
It is one of the best games ofall time.
If you look like it's not uhlike we know this, we it's one
of the best games of all time.
This game they people calledthis thing the Zelda machine

(19:05):
when it first came out.
Like it was just a Zeldamachine, and that game is also
on my list.
Uh I was gonna hold that fornumber one, but now it's out
there, yeah.
And that's just it, dude.
Like Breath of the Wild, like,I look so just kind of like you
do, I look so fondly back onthose, like just the amount of
discovery and they and Nintendolike, and this is why I made

(19:26):
this particular list, like gamesthat defined the Switch for us,
uh, because it broke everythingI knew.
Well, I mean, like it thefunction of Zelda like totally
changed.
It was like having sex.
I lost my virginity, Breath ofthe Wild, dude.
Right, right.

(19:46):
What I'm trying to say is like,I mean, Zelda's always got like
the the lore of Zelda's alwayslike cyclical, like it's always
kind of the same story, but itdid shift that a little bit, but
like it took you know, it dudethis is not Ocarina of time, it
is not like Majora's Mask, it isnot uh LinkedIn to the past.
Like this game like went fullon 3D and like just I don't

(20:08):
know, it's like Zelda Skyrimonly better.
Yeah, I'll never forget juststaring at the map and being
like crazy map, dude.
There's gotta be some fuckingcool.
So many articles back in theday about like just the idea of
like seeing something on thehorizon and then being intrigued
by it and going to see what'sup.
Just dude, yeah.
Spent hours like not evenplaying the game, just I mean

(20:28):
playing the game, but like notfollowing the storyline, right?
Yeah, and it just changed likea lot of open worlds fill you
with tasks and they try to fillthose open worlds with different
things to do.
Zelda's it's hands down.
It's got things.
I just mean like hands down,it's the best ever.
Maybe like Red Dead could rivalit, Red Dead 2, but just best

(20:49):
ever in terms of like Ipersonally believe you're just
derping, dude.
You're just just fuckingaround.
I I personally believe thatlike, and it's it's because it
came out first, and I I kind ofview um tears as like a
continuation of one.
It's like, you know, it's hardto be like Tears is better.
I mean there's things aboutTears that is better, but like
well it's worth bringing upbecause like all you know, if

(21:11):
we're talking about like, youknow, all your buddies playing
it, you're talking to peopleabout it, like it was a cultural
thing.
It was kind of the same thingwith Tears of the Kingdom, but
like it just couldn't recapturethat high of that brand new new.
So like my friends were stillplaying it, I was still talking
to people about it at work, butit it just didn't really it was
better for the internet, sure,as far as like memes and

(21:33):
contraptions and content, right?
Right.
Uh but just pure experience,nothing's I don't know of
anything.
It's like it's like Ocarina ofTime when I was a kid, man.
It's just like this changes allgames moving forward.
Right.
So I can't.
I have a I have a follow-up, ordo you want to jump in?
Go for it.
All right.
Um, you've touched on it a fewtimes, so I just wanted to get

(21:54):
out of the way.
The second game that defines mytime with a switch is Shovel
Knight.
Oh, okay.
And if you're like the hill Youwent third party, nice.
Well, here's the deal.
There was a Darth of games.
There was Mario Kart and Zelda.
There might have been like aport or something else.
My memory's a little foggy andI didn't want to do any fucking

(22:14):
research.
The research I did do though,is I logged on to my Nintendo
account online and I lookedthrough my purchase history
because I had a feeling it wastrue, but I just wanted to
confirm.
My first purchased third-partygame was Shovel Knight.
Digital cards now or whateverthey call them.
Yeah, that's that's quiteliterally.
I was like, the fuck's this?
And I was hoping it'd have mywhole play history so I could

(22:37):
see hours and stuff like that,but in the time I was looking,
there was nothing thatconvenient or straightforward.
But Shovel Knight, I think Ibought it because of Jason
Schreier's book, and I readabout Yacht Club games.
Yep.
And in I think his newer book,or maybe it was that book, he
talks about how a lot of games,good or bad, just got a
completely new life on theSwitch because there was just

(22:58):
this pocket of like Odyssey cameout in September or October.
Okay, yeah.
So that was like the one, andthen you had Odyssey, so you had
Mario Kart, Zelda, and thenSuper Mario Odyssey, and then
they were reasonably stretchedout, and then there was like
nothing.
There was like Kirby StarAlliances in the spring.
So there was like a long timebefore you had like an absolute

(23:20):
banger to lean into.
So I picked Shovel Knight asthe official selection, but what
Shovel Knight represents is meplaying way more indies than
I've ever played before, all theway up to like Hades 2.
Yeah, once uh once folksstarted to be able to figure out
how to you know, or were ableto and then whatever to port and
develop for the Switch, likethere was a ton of indies that

(23:41):
came.
Yeah, and I like had thoughtabout it and I was like, those
indies were available on thePlayStation 4 store.
I just there's something aboutthe Switch that made it.
Yeah, and it's like the styleof those games being like retro
leaning.
Yeah.
But Shovel Knight's a greatgame, but like if you look at
hours played, like why didn't Imention Stardew Valley?

(24:01):
Why didn't I mention uh Hades2, which is like literally in my
top 10 games of all time.
Hades 1 or Hades 2.
Oh, I meant Hades 1.
Yeah, yeah.
Um, it's like literally in oneof my top games of all time, and
it's just like Shovel Knightrepresents a game I played and
was like really into and reallycool that was like an opening of
a door to a bunch of othergames that I spent a crit.
Like I think most of the timeon my Switch ends up actually

(24:25):
being third party.
Nice, like indie.
Nice.
Yeah.
Now I can dig it.
Shovel Knight, that's a solidone.
Have you ever played?
Yeah, but not like all the waythrough.
Yeah, it's it's hilariously upyour alley.
Yeah, I know, I know.
Being yeah, it's like Alex Codato the extreme.
The soundtrack slaps, uh YachtCruz has a new uh Howling Mina

(24:45):
or something like that.
It's got a new like Zelda lightgame coming out, like Zelda.
So I'll be I'll be excited forthat.
Probably pick it up on my SteamED though.
Yeah, fair, fair.
Yeah.
Alright.
So what do you got for yoursecond?
Uh the second game that I'llmention because we've messed up
my planned order.
Yeah, it's almost like we couldcommunicate, but you know,
that's alright.
Who doesn't appreciate a littlewholesome uh chaos?

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Uh I'm gonna I'm gonna throwSuper Smash Brothers Ultimate
out there.
I'm glad you did because it wasoff my list, but I was gonna
have to um honorable.
Now this game, I'm not like athe reason that it made the
quintessential this game definedthe the system for me is not
because I like love this game.

(25:29):
I I don't get me wrong either,I thoroughly enjoyed it when it
first came out.
And I and I still enjoy playingit from time to time.
Well, I was like, the reasonthat it's on there is for the
multiplayer aspect, right?
Mario Kart 8 is not on my list.
Now, can I was going back andforth between the two because I
wanted a multiplayer amultiplayer game on there, and

(25:51):
Mario Kart 8 is dope, but italso was available on the Wii U
or whatever.
They've done so much editionsand stuff, it's kind of like a
Switch game.
But and to be honest, Iprobably like it's more
approachable, way moreapproachable for folks that
aren't gamers.
So if like I'm gonna play withmy wife, Mario Kart, send it,
you know, Mario Party, send it.
But what was really cool aboutSmash Brothers for me was the

(26:16):
hype around it and the communityaround it, and then just like
being excited for its releaseand then playing online with you
and getting my ass whooped.
You're uh uh I've played likein tournaments with some of the
podcast community.
Shout out to Mikey for puttingthose together, got my ass
whooped there.
Bet I probably would have too.
Uh, dude, at your uh at yourbachelor party.

(26:38):
I was gonna mention it.
There's lots of smashhappening.
Dude, we smashed a shit.
We smashed a ton.
The wife, the soon-to-be wife,worried about what they're doing
at the bachelor party.
I'm just crushing Smash Broswith what bros dude.
But that's what's up, you know.
In that game, I feel like itlike I you kind of touched on it
earlier, like the we, eventhough I have one now, and like,
you know, that that era ofSmash, like I never I never got

(27:00):
like straight up into like Iplayed them, but I've never been
like there's Smash Heads outthere.
There's people that do Smashtournaments, like yeah.
But this game, superapproachable, great like set of
characters.
Like I I loved that, like uh, Idon't even know you would call
it, but the overworld thing thatthey did.
It was like kind of like movingaround and like I like the
single player, I like the singleplayer aspect of it.
Like I got good with a coupleof the different players, like I

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put in hella time when it cameout, and I think that it's
important.
Like, I wanted it on a listbecause it's important for me to
represent the communal aspectof the Switch somehow, right?
Because that's such like animportant part of this system
and Nintendo's like ethosforever, like they they want
people to play together, uh forbetter or for worse.

(27:43):
I struggled because my hype forthis game was um too high.
Sure.
I constantly joked with mystudent because I teach in
middle school, so definitely upthe Smash Bros alley.
I constantly joked leading toit's like because the year it
was coming out, I was like, allright, I hope you guys enjoy
this class up until like I thinkit was like December or
October.

(28:03):
And I was like, when I will beretiring to play Smash Bros.
Yeah, and they're like, I waslike, I'm gonna be a streamer.
And they're like, What's yourstream name?
And I was like, Stall Daddy10,000.
Nice.
And uh we all laughed, and thenuh a kid actually called me
that, and I was like, Don'tdon't fucking call me that.
Just running around theprincipals, like, why are they
calling you stall daddy?
I can't have you calling me anyversion of daddy at all.

(28:26):
Like, fucking stop that, bro.
And he thought it was so funny,and I was like, Yeah, it's like
Stall God 10,000.
Just do that, and then like youmentioned, the bachelor party,
we had a big old TV, and it wasjust like, you know, uh, you can
up the chaos in Smash Bros.
where like even if you suck,you just you know.
Shout out to the homie Jimmywho had me over uh not too long
ago again for another like gamesession.

(28:47):
We played Smash Bros.
with the homies, dude.
It's just like it's such a likefun, even if you're not like
not good at it, like you can begood enough at it.
Yeah, I mean but then you getlike one other homie, like let
us shout out my buddy David.
So he's kind of swept the floorwith us, you know.
So like there's definitely likelevels of like yeah, and then
at school once we like had likea goofy day.
I don't remember what the dealwas, but someone brought a

(29:09):
switch in a dock, and we slappedit on one of the big old TVs in
the room, and we were just inand out of the room running
different tournaments, and itwas tight.
It was just another one ofthose moments where you just got
a couple of dudes in a switch,you know, and bring your
controllers, brother.
And we were we were jumping andI remember the buddy Hog uh
brief shout out, fuckingscolding me because it was like
a 1v1 situation, and I likebasically I didn't trust the

(29:30):
person to not use the item, so Ijust like ran to the item and
used it, and that murdered him.
And he was like, The fuck isthat?
It's like that's not how youplay.
And in my head, I was like soashamed because I was like,
You're right.
But I was like, I didn't knowhe knew the decorum.
I didn't know he had thedecorum, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
I don't even think it was himthat I beat either.
He just looked at me indisgust, like, and if you knew

(29:50):
this dude, he'd be funny.
Like, he's not aconfrontational guy, so it's
just kind of like to this day,I'm like, man, I can't believe I
smurched myself in his eyes.
My honor, my gaming honor wascalled in question that day, and
the person was right.
It's just in the rules ofengagement, dude.
I didn't know they knew therules of engagement, so I just
had to win.
That's clowning.
Yeah.
Uh, another another cool thingabout Smash that kind of like

(30:12):
lays in even or leans in evenfurther to the whole like
defines the system for me, islike a ton of folks that really
love Smash and love Smash on theGameCube, like bought the
GameCube controller peripheral,like the third-party peripheral.
I think they may even have, Idon't remember for sure, but
like you can buy you can buy aGameCube controller that works
with um with the Switch orwhatever, and people did that

(30:33):
specifically for Smash.
There's like branded Smashcontrollers.
So that's like another thing,the peripherals.
Nintendo's always been big ontheir peripherals, and that's
another little piece, a smallone, it kind of teases maybe
what I'm gonna say next.
Oh, well, if you're ready togo, all right.
Shoot.
So this game, another bigperipheral game, uh, not We Fit
Advent, not We Fit Ring FitAdventure or whatever, which I

(30:56):
do have.
Yeah, uh You had to.
Dude, it's kind of dope.
You had to.
I mean, it's the yeah.
Uh no, the game I do want toshout out though, uh, for this
list.
And I I went back and forth,but like when I really thought
about it, and for games thatdefine the system, uh, for me,
it's it's that uh Mario KartLive home circuit.
Now I have not put hours oftime in a home circuit.

(31:17):
Was that the toy?
Yeah, yeah, that thing'shilarious.
I forgot that came out.
That thing's fucking coolthough.
It's so cool we're setting thatup.
It's so cool.
And it's uh I that's likeprobably the most joy I've had
because I have uh I have aswitch and a switch light.
I I won the switch light on uhInstagram, someone was doing
like a raffle.
Yeah.
Uh so you know I don't know.
I had to like I I guess peoplewhatever.

(31:38):
That's I don't need to justifymy fucking systems.
Yeah, I don't know where thisis going.
I have two of them.
That's just the thing.
You need like this isn't thisis the I guess I'm laying the
groundwork with the idea thatthis is like ridiculous.
But I have two.
Check your own man as twoswitches, and then this little
peripheral car that drives onthe ground.
I have Luigi and Mario.
It's the shit you dream of as akid, and you're like, I'll
never be able to afford allthat.
Mom and dad ain't got no timefor 100%.

(32:00):
When you're an adult, you'relike, oh, I'm in fucking charge,
dude.
And I have not, I have like ifyou look at my playtime on uh
home circuit or whatever, likeI'm sure it's like two, three
hours.
It's not very long.
Two, three hours of which hasbeen spent like showing it to
other people being like, that'swhat's up though.
That's what's up though.
Like, that's what's so cool.
Like look at it go under thechair, dude.
That's so cool.
That's what's so cool though,dude.

(32:20):
It's like so you got these likeI remember ripping it in the
basement in Rose.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It was Tiger's wanting to bringit over to your stuff.
Winston was chasing it.
Murph was like, the fuck isthis witchcraft?
For sure.
Uh I brought it to Brunson's.
Shout out Brunson's pub, and welike played like up in the
upstairs, like after hours,dude.
Like, so fun being able to setthis thing up, people be like,
what the heck is this?
And then play and like be ableto like do do like live

(32:43):
in-person Mario Kart.
Like, dude, what a dopeperipheral.
Like, and for me, that helpsdefine the system.
That's hilarious.
Um, totally forgot you hadthat.
Where is it in the office?
I don't even know the carts arein the closet.
You bought two of them too,didn't you?
I got Mario and the Ouija.
I got Ouija on discount though,I think.
That's out of control.
But that's just it, dude.

(33:04):
I'm and like it's so funny,man.
Like, who knows if he'll evencare when he's like old enough
to fuck with it.
But like, dude, I am likechopping at the bit to to like
be able to play that with Elton.
Love that.
Um that's part of the joy,dude.
Like setting up the setting upthe circuit and whatever.
Yeah, I'm a grown-ass man, Ican do that and like have a

(33:25):
little bit of fun doing it, butlike to see, and that's that's
what the cool part though islike being able to share that
with him eventually, being ableto share that with you back in
the day, being able to sharewith all the homies at like at
the Brunson's dude.
Like it was just like that wasdope, like to be able to share
that experience.
So cool.
Respect that.
All right.
So next on mysemi-chronological list uh was
the game I was perhaps mosthyped for, disappointed by, yet

(33:49):
loved.
So it's this weird thing whereit could never meet my
expectations.
There's things where if I thinkabout it to this day, there's
such massive missed potential,but I played a bunch of it and I
adore it, and it also fits mytheme of it, it represents a
bunch of other games.
Well, a select few.
So the game is Mario Golf.

(34:09):
Oh, yeah.
See, that was I I toe with thatone.
And in my head, it kind ofpairs nicely with my time spent
with Mario Tennis, which wasactually super solid.
Okay.
Liked Mario Tennis a lot, yep.
And played a decent amountonline, which is very strange
for me.
I'm a super anti-online gamer.
Playing randoms?

Alex (34:28):
Dang.

Luke (34:28):
Yeah, playing randoms.
Uh one time a dude was like,Wanna be my friend on Switch?
And I was like, sure.
After I he beat me in tennis.
It was close games, though.
I'm just saying.
And then he had like 700 hoursin Fortnite, and I was like,
You're not my guy.
And I unfriended himimmediately.
I was like, I'm not gonna likewhat am I?
It was whatever, right?
Yeah, it's not good.

(34:48):
So Mario Tennis was sweet.
Mario Golf, Mario Golf on theGameCube was like one of my
favorite games, and I was likeobsessed with it.
GameCube Mario Golf's amazing.
It's it's amazing, and uh maybethe only reason I'll get a
Switch too is to play Mario Golfon it.
Right GameCube.
But the action, the actual golfsimulation is excellent.

(35:10):
Yeah.
The are you talking about thecurrent switch?
Yes.
I liked the super rush modes,not practical, but uh wish they
would have just leaned into whatthey did with the GameCube.
Like, but whatever.
I'm getting there.
I'm getting there.
Yeah.
No, like we had like some awork retreat, we call it, where
basically a bunch of dudes justgetting Airbnb and we had Nerf

(35:31):
gun fights and drank beers andate too much food.
It's great time.
Um, we were playing just a tonof Mario Golf the first one we
did.
Beers, bros, and banging.
We talked about this.
But it was like a great, it'skind of similar to what you were
saying with um Smash Bros andwhat we were talking about
there, but it was like a reallygood communal game once again.
I played that one online a lottoo.

(35:51):
I just loved the golfsimulation with it.
I will never forgive them forcreating bland ass courses.
Yeah.
And I'll never understand whythey were like, no, it's so you
could also do the super rushstuff, which the super rush
stuff was kind of fun whenyou're in a group setting like
that, but when you're justchilling at your house alone.
Let me just play a golf scene.

(36:11):
When you're hanging out with abunch of dudes, but I feel you,
dude.
This game almost made my list,too.
So much missed potential, butalso.
We were stoked out of it.
We were like I was a ravenousdog for that game.
Like it was so like it couldnever meet those expectations,
but I'll never forgive them fornot having courses.
I just don't understand.
They could have tried like justa little bit harder, but you
know what you can do.
Just make courses that are golfcourses that are super goofy

(36:33):
and like Mario themed.
I thought that's what we werehere for.
Not like bland, this is thedesert track.
This is the and like Mario Kartdoes it.
Uh it it was just so weird tome that they didn't lean into
that.
If I recall, they were likethey were leaning into like this
whole like Breath of the Wildmap style where it's like one
big area and then they like theytry and weave in.
It's like, I don't know,whatever.
It was just and then they, inmy opinion, they just kind of

(36:57):
gave up on it.
Do you not think so?
I think they showed they couldhave had a really long tail, and
they were like, nah, it's good,it sold.
The numbers must not have beenthere.
Maybe not, but like it wascool.
Like I would log in, I forgetif it was monthly or weekly.
I think it was weekly.
You'd get a different characterskin if you played online
enough.
So I was doing that all thetime.
I was like, it wasn't likegood, but I like won a few
tournaments.
It was pretty cool.

(37:17):
Um we uh we got some goodmatches going when we went out
to B More.
Yeah, see, that's what I mean.
It was just you just grip itand rip it.
It was just so fun, and it wasa good game, and it's just the
costumes were fun to unlock, butthen they started to repeat and
they just gave up on thatcosmetic piece.
I would have played longer formore cosmetics, even though I
don't like just for something tounlock.

(37:38):
What are you gonna do?
And then the courses, if theyjust like never was there like a
shoot it into that pipe andit's a shortcut if you hit that
pipe.
And they had that type of shitin the game keepers rant over my
bad.
I'm saving up that rant.
He's like, this game define theswitch for me.
Disappointment.
Yeah.
It's like one of my and thenyou know what though?
Like, that's kind of part ofthe whole switch journey, is it

(38:00):
reaches highs, and there's a fewtimes where it doesn't quite
deliver in the way you want, andit's just the way games are
changing, and that's part of thestory, you know.
Right on.
I'm glad that one made the listthough.
I I debated it for quite sometime.
Kind of like Smash Bros.
I'm glad it gave an ad to talkabout.
So I got two left.
Looks like we've one thing thesame, so you might as well get
that one out of the way.

(38:20):
Uh maybe both.
We'll see.
But I'm gonna go, I'm gonna,I'm gonna save my I'm gonna save
my load, and I'm gonna go, I'mgonna go with Kirby and the
Forgotten Land.
Shocking.
Yeah, I considered it becauseI've played it the one time and
adored it.
So this is similar to like thehow you're saying you're
ravenous for for Mario Golf.

(38:41):
Like, I really like Kirby.
Like Kirby gets shot on on theinternet like for being too easy
and stuff, but it's like, haveyou played Kirby?
It can get hard sometimes.
Yeah, it's like a coke headbeing like, You're smoking weed,
it's like I had to get theresomehow, dude.
Yeah, for sure.
Uh, but this you know kind ofties into analogy that's on me,
that's bad.
It kind of ties into uh thewhole idea of Nintendo kind of

(39:02):
like you kind of want the Zeldathing, how they changed up the
format.
Like, so they brought Kirby,which is primarily a 2D
platformer, into the 3Dplatforming realm, and they did
an excellent job at it.
That game's so good.
Like honestly, probably myfavorite Kirby, and I like
almost all the Kirby games.
Like, but this this Kirby game,probably the best.
Uh graphics were solid, likequite good, actually.
Uh, I just remember beingstoked for the release of that,

(39:24):
and I remember playing throughit and it having from start to
finish just such a joy.
Like that doesn't happen inmost games.
Podcasts did good numbers too,so dude, it is.
That part too, Kirby Pod islike it's like in our top three.
Kirby Hive.
Get at me, dude.
Kirby Hive was sure, dude.
It's got a tail on it.
People still listen to theKirby episode.
That's such a good game, dude.
And it's like is it a hiddengem or is it an underappreciated

(39:49):
masterpiece?
Underappreciated probably anunappreciated masterpiece, dude.
Slapper.
No, like the little cutscenesand everything.
Like the game is good.
Like the game is very good.
And it was like did not stay aswelcome.
Like it's it's just longenough.
It like hits all the sweetspots for me.
In a few years, if you're like,let's dust off the old switch.
Like you would definitely getto Kirby in the Forgotten Land.

(40:10):
Yeah, and if you haven't playedit, uh played.
Get your ass on and play it,dude.
Like it's fucking it's a coolgame.
And like for me, it was likethat hype cycle of it.
Like, there was that's whatsomething the Switch did so well
for such a long time was thehype cycle.
Yeah, like that is tapered offin the last few years for me.
Yeah, like for various reasons.
Like I have other systems thatI play, like Switch for a long

(40:31):
time was like my so you broughtit up at the beginning of this,
but like it it invigorated likea gaming like person in you,
right?
Yeah, dude, I was even more solike out of the game.
Like I didn't have a PS4, likemy last system was a PS3.
That's true.
I didn't have her have anyXboxes, like and before your PC,
you'd play like games I wasplaying on the PS4, but like the
lame Switch version, it waslike it was like really funny.

(40:53):
Like The Witcher, you don'tknow you were so hyped to get
into some of these games thatyou had kind of missed out on.
I thought about putting theWitcher on those list because
for me, like that that was likemy entry to The Witcher, and
then I ended up getting it inthe dude.
The fact that it had the crosssaves and I could bring it over
on that PC.
That was pretty fucking dope.
But dude, like I rememberplaying The Witcher 3 on my
Switch and being like incrediblyhappy with a couple of the

(41:14):
cutscenes that were like, dude,like trash in terms of like
graphics, but like stilladorably so still like was
pretty tight.
Yeah, great game to play,handheld.
Not on my list.
Thought about it though.
Yeah, oh wow, but um but Kirbydude, Kirby the Forgotten Land
uh made my list, and for me,that's like a quintessential
Switch game, and I think that itwas part of that like hype
cycle where it was like therewas a lot of excitement on its

(41:37):
release, and it and different uhwhat sets us aside from Marion
Golf, I feel like this game 100%delivered.
Yeah, um, and also during thatDarth of Games, I was very
excited for Kirby StarAlliances, and that was a tough
one for me because it was like60 bucks for kind of a five to

(41:58):
ten hour kitty game.
Sure.
So, like, as much as I shat onthe whole like people who say
Kirby's too easy, like whenyou're when you're in a desert
and you finally get to somewater, sure, sure, but there's
not a lot of that water, it wasa bummer.
But now I I look more fondlyupon that game now, but like
God, if they would have releasedKirby in the Forgotten Land at
that time, it would have been adifferent narrative completely.

(42:19):
Um, all right.
So I guess I'll be the one tosay it.
So is this your fifth now?
I'm on my fourth.
Fourth.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
I just have had too much to sayabout some of your selections.
It's all good.
So uh we got it against AnimalCrossing, who I'm pretty sure
engineered the pandemicthemselves.
Dude, I'm pretty sure like wespent too much time in
conspiracies about governmentsreleasing it and not enough on

(42:40):
how Nintendo probably createdcoronavirus to sell Animal
Crossing.
I wouldn't doubt it.
But oh my god, dude.
If you just like if you'rethinking back of your time spent
on this system, uh AnimalCrossing's the one time I could
turn my wife into a girl gamergirly.
Dog plane, too.
She put in a pretty crazyamount of hours, actually.
And like it's so funny.

(43:02):
Like, you know how I am, solike my my island was like
popping.
Like I had like very I'm aVirgo or whatever, you know.
You can buy into that as muchas you want, the star side
stuff, but like but dude, I hadlike you know, my areas,
everything was doing, and thenlike so you know, and I actually
bought two copies of AnimalCrossing.
Yeah, I bought a digital copyso that because I have the two
switches, so like Anna could putwe could play at the same time

(43:22):
and we could like get online andvisit each other's islands.
That was a mistake.
I should never have invitedAnna to my island because I had
started playing this before her.
Oh, you overwhelmed her withthe potential?
Yeah, dog.
She like she came over to myisland, she was like, Fuck this
game.
Oh no, she was like, I'llnever, I'll never have an island
like yours.
I was like, Come on, baby,yeah, you will.
I got into a playful white uhfight with the missus the other

(43:44):
day, though, because we weretalking about Animal Crossing
with someone, and she goes, Ikind of wish I had my own
island.
I was like, the fuck?
Speaking upon our memoriesshared together, like how dare
you besmirch our beautiful andyou know what?
Like, I kind of I mean, wetalked, we talked it out.
We like we goofed around aboutit some more.
Like we both have very fondmemories of doing that together.
She probably wouldn't havegotten into it as much if she

(44:04):
didn't have me kind of with someof the nuts and bolts of the
island.
That's just it.
So, like, and I had her littletent, and she was like quite
happy with like a coupleflowers, and then she came and
saw my fields of poppies and waslike, what the fuck?
Yeah, uh, and I also can'tblame the wife for like she'd go
into the northwest corner ofthe map and I had created a
bamboo fortress that may havelooked like a prison, looked
like a cool fucking castle tome, but whatever didn't matter.

(44:25):
Why are we holding people bustshard?
That's funny.
Dude, uh, if I look back on mybank of photos or screenshots on
the Switch, like it's all thedifferent fish I was catching
and shit, dude.
And like you remember, Iremember the first month where
it's like you have to catch thisone fish before the end of the
month.
It was like some fucking goldentrout or some shit.
You had to like climb to thetop, you had to be like in a
certain body of water or water.
Yeah, it was like all thisstuff, and like the content

(44:48):
created around it.
Uh Ace boy boy boing had afucking birthday party in it.
Because it's the heat of thepandemic.
We're like, shots out to Ace.
Boo, woo, wooing, dude.
He had like cupcakes ready togo for folks.
Like dog.
Yeah, party favors.
He had like, dude, yeah, wewent home back to our islands
with like gifts and stuff.
Like I was like, shit.
That was that was dope, dude.

(45:10):
I was like, the best partyyou've ever thrown, Ace.
Boing.
The fuck you done since, dog.
Uh so that shit was dope.
Uh, I'll never forget, like, Ihad to teach, so it was like
this weird thing where I hadquote unquote office hours for
like two hours a day.
So like I'd wake up wheneverthe fuck I wanted, yeah, right
before office hours, and then Iwas like, burn, boom, boom.

(45:32):
Yes, sir.
And my wife would be allfucking jealous because she had
to do her like real job, butstored it out really from the
computer across the room, so shecould just see me grinding,
getting shaking my fuckingtrees, digging my holes,
harvesting my flowers, and likeI was a fan of it on the
GameCube.
Uh I never really played theGameCube too much, but I had the
3DS.
I played New Leaf or whateverit's called a little bit.

(45:54):
But we man, we went so hardinto the into the game or the
excuse me, the island life andvisiting people, and then we got
into the stonk market, dude.
Remember that we had two.
We had a group that shouts outto the homies.
Uh so Ace was on that.
Boing.
Carter, I want to say, was onthere.
So yeah.
And then I think I got Ben intoit, so Ben was on it.

(46:15):
And then I'm trying to get it.
I forgot about that.
That's called if there'sanybody else, and just like
hitting that thread of like, yo,what's your price?
Yeah, yeah, and like jumpingover to each other's islands,
dicking the money.
Like that shit was.
I kind of money.
I kind of cheese that a littlebit.
I got on Twitter sometimes andlike found folks that like had
big big numbers, and it was likepart of the vibe, dude.
They threw them codes out.

(46:36):
Yeah, I forgot about that.
I liked visiting random islandsand harvesting them.
Like, it was just it was agreat game.
It quite literally at thesuspiciously perfect time for a
game like that.
Yeah, for sure.
Like uh but so, dude, for sure.
It's funny.
Um post-Panny, uh like youknow, tail end of it, Panny
wasn't really over, but youknow.
Yeah.
Uh I was in New York and wentto the comedy cell.

(46:57):
I love going to the comedycellar every time I'm in New
York.
And one of the comedians can'tremember who he was, one of the
one of the openers.
He was alright, but uh, I wasin the front row.
Um, they landed me in thefront, which is like always
gives me a little bit of anxietybecause they're gonna pick on
me.
Yeah, you're a big dude too.
I'm a big dude as well.
You stand out to be like toofor sure.
Called upon so he calls on meand he's talking about the panty
because panty's fresh, and hewas talking about asking people

(47:20):
what they did.
He was like, How about you,man?
Like, what'd you do in thepanty?
I was like, Man, uh like smokea lot of weed, drank a lot of,
and like fucking hung out onAnimal Crossing.
And he like tried laying intome on Animal Crossing.
He was like, What the fuck?
And then because he just wantedto hear, like, drank and
smoked, you know, because that'swhat he did.
It's like, okay, cool.
Partied or whatever.
Um, but but dude, fucking likeso.

(47:41):
I the dude next to me, somerandom guy, he like looks at me,
he's like, Yo, man, me too.
Like, everybody, because that'swhat everybody was doing.
This can be fucking stupid,man.
Like, he missed out.
He missed out.
Love that, but uh, but dude,that's like that game was so
like to this day, and like thisis the only regret I have about
switching to an OLED and say itis I didn't do my save save

(48:01):
transfer correctly.
Lost that island.
I lost my island, bro.
That island is in my mind'seye.
Like, I remember that island.
Like, I could I can walkthrough it in my mind, dude.
Like, it's crazy.
I remember like havingconversations with the wife
about like where are we gonnalay this bridge?
Dog, where are we gonna putthis house?
It was just it was so sick tohave someone like with you to do
all that.

(48:21):
Hannah's like fucking broke assisland still exists, though.
Shooting still sitting in hergoddamn tent.
Dog, I had like dude hercoachella tent.
Dude, I had like straight, likeyou mentioned the fish, dude.
Like, I had like a full-on likeall the albums you could
collect.
Like, dude, dude, I finishedthe museum.
Like, that's not even like thatbig of an accomplishment.

(48:42):
Like, I got them twin Glocks,dude.
I call them Timmy and Tommy.
Clowning.
Sliding your bitch like KK,dude.
Yeah, dog.
Dude, uh, I wear a KK slidershirt to school.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And people are like, the fuck?
And then kids are like, hellyeah.
Did I give you that shirt?
Nah, the wife did.
Oh, tight.
But it's got like the cool, youknow, we're both dumb.
Yeah, I got one.
We're dumb suckers with thefucking Japanese print.

(49:04):
Yeah.
So it's yeah, KK slider.
Tight.
Love that.
Love the KK concerts.
I am crossing.
That was uh, that's my final.
There's no way it's not.
Yeah, it's on that.
It's probably if I had toactually properly rank them, I
might actually truly strugglebetween Zelda.
My favorite game.
That was my number two when Iwas gonna rank.
So I had uh I had, I mean, hardto hard to not have Breath of

(49:24):
the Wild up there.
A moment for me or a moment forthe greater community as a
whole is crazy.
I mean, like, you can't havethe Switch without Animal
Crossing, like it was such acultural movement at the time,
like and it brought peopletogether.
Like, like you said, peoplewere hanging out digitally,
yeah.
When they couldn't hang out inperson, uh, and just like a
chill ass, like I'm not uh I'mnot like a I like cozy games,

(49:45):
I'm not like a cozy gamer perse.
Yeah, but like I'll cozy upwith some fucking Animal
Crossing.
And just like you dude, like Ididn't have to teach or
anything.
I run my own business and likemarketing shit.
So like there are some thingsthat I had to take care of,
especially for my restaurantclients, which were trying to do
like takeout and stuff, butthat didn't take me too much
time.
Like there's a lot of time, soI had a lot of time.
So of course I'd fire up likefirst thing of the day, and then

(50:06):
what else are you gonna do?
Like, you just so habitual, itfelt so good.
Um I I recently, dude, I'vebeen like, man, it'd be kind of
tight.
Like, but that's just it, dude.
Like, I miss my island so much.
So like starting from scratchlike gives me a little bit of
pause.
So I haven't I haven't like,but like have you ever stardew?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, not like the only othercozy game I've ever fucked.
Yeah, not like hardcore.
Um, but I've I've put it I'veput some hours into Stardew.

(50:28):
Stardew's like, I mean, likeit's tight, don't get me wrong,
like 100%, but like uh there'sjust something like extra
grinding and the simplicity ofit of Animal Crossing.
Whereas like Stardew like givesme like I try to min-max, I
mean who am I trying to kill mylike I min-max in fucking uh

(50:49):
Animal Crossing as well, butlike it's next level in Stardew,
in my opinion.
Animal Crossing had like a nicehour to two hour shelf life per
day.
Yeah.
Whereas like Stardew's kind oflike keep playing dog, yeah,
that makes sense.
You can run you run your fullcycle and then move on.
I think that's my full list,bro.
I think I did five.
Animal Crossing would have beenthe last one I was gonna drop.
So I've got Breath of the Wild,Super Smash Brothers, Kirby the

(51:13):
Forgotten Land, AnimalCrossing, and Mario Kart Live
Home Circuit.
Noise.
To finish and round me off, Ihave uh a cheat.
Because who doesn't just cheat?
Um me, I'm an honorable man.
All lists, all integrity.
I was playing, dude.
You just see a kid playing likethe Sims, putting in cheat
coats and shit.
Yeah, or trying to you knowcheat when I'm beating you in

(51:35):
baseball games.
I digress.
Um that's just part of thegame, bro.
It's a two-way tie between theyrepresent they represent the
same thing to me though.
Okay, and that's my that's mycheat.
Is it's I call it vegetablegaming.
Okay, uh groove groove stategaming, sure, sure.
Flow state gaming, okay,whatever you want to call it.
Uh Civ six.

(51:55):
Uh yes.
And Slay the Spire.
Okay.
Very different games though.
Yes, but also represent likeI'm playing them for far too
long.
Yeah.
I'm getting good enough at themwhere my brain processing to
play them is low.
So I could be watching sports,I could be watching something in
the background, I could just bevibing.

(52:15):
But the amount of time I putinto Civ 6 is gross.
Um it's interesting, like theWhere that shit is a badge, bro.
100%.
I fucking love Civ.
No.
Uh it did drop in a price, butI'm playing enough stuff, so
now's not the time.
Um it was so good.
I was actually shocked it wasso good on the Switch.

(52:38):
Didn't they?
Like you had some.
I had some crashes.
I had some nonsense.
I was doing that.
Which is pretty wild, dude.
Most games like Switch, well,granted, like it's being my
point is, is like Switchactually like doesn't have a lot
of problems.
No.
Uh shouts out to the Switch.
My Steam ED has way moretechnical issues than my Switch
ever did.
And I'm talking like hardwaretoo.
Switches, other than theJoy-Con drift, which Nintendo is

(53:01):
pretty cool about replacing.
I don't know what they stilldo, but they were for a while
there.
They were for a while and I gotmine fixed and I haven't had
issues yet, so that's tight.
But they were both just likeSlay the Spire, I guess I
thought about maybe mentioningjust when I said like that indie
run I went on that started withuh what a great game to be able
to play handheld though.
Yeah.

(53:21):
Are you trying to play Slay ona fucking big ass TV or
something?
Nah, not really.
I mean I did when it would runout of battery.
And I had to plug it in and Iwasn't willing to quit.
A lot of these, a lot of theseuh third party games are like
have been on the Steam, youknow, Steam market forever, but
there's and that's where the theSteam Deck has like kind of
changed up the game quite a bit.
So yeah, Slay the Spirecombined with Civ, it's just I

(53:45):
guess maybe if I had toofficially nail it down, I'm
gonna say Civ.
Because like to play that game.
Well you got like 400 hours,500, 600, 700,000?
10,000.
No.
It's probably right now.
Yeah, I'm playing right now.
It's probably I got thatStarlink fucking chip, dude.
You dropping Civ 6.
It makes total sense.
Like I think it should be foryou to make it.

(54:07):
But like, dude, that game likehave you considered playing on a
PC?
I think I bought it.
I bought it, but I bought it onlike Epic.
And to be able to use a mouse,but do you use the touch screen?
Like, do you use the touchscreen?
I use both.
Yeah, there's differentfunctionalities, and it's like
late game, is when it getsreally like I think that's an

(54:28):
interesting thing about theSwitch to me, is like I force
myself to use the touch screenon there.
Like, whereas the 3DS, like itwas very much like you tap on
the screen for things, right?
Sure.
Whereas a switch, like once youlike break you almost forget
that it's part of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then once you like realize,like, oh yeah, I can like dude,
I don't know, it's nice.
Yeah, and I got like expansionstoo.

(54:49):
So like I would run into likereally I would have to save
pretty much all the time.
Sure.
And then late game stuff.
So like you're so invested inlate game that you would put up
with it is really what it comesdown to.
Um the portability of theswitch, playing Civ in bed,
yeah, playing Civ in transit.
So I've actually car rides.
The majority of my Civ 6 I didon the iPad.

(55:10):
Yeah, that would check out too.
Yeah.
I don't have one of them.
But uh yeah, so like that, youknow, if I'm telling the story
of the Switch, that fits so Iwill officially cut out Slay the
Spire, just a quick honorablemention shot of it.
Sorry, Slay.
That game slaps so hard, and Iwill buy Slay, I will not wait
for a sale.
I will buy Slay the Slyer toearly access on release, doesn't

(55:31):
matter.
I love that game so dearly.
Um, but Civ like to have thatpowerful of a game and complex
of a game in a handheldeverywhere on the couch, on the
TV, bed, transit, all that, andjust something to obsess over,
and it looked good on there, itjust had to make the list, dude.
Dude, I love it.
Yeah, dude, those games, likenot only every single games that

(55:54):
we mentioned, like absolutely Iwould recommend playing.
They are not necessarily myfavorite games, although some of
them are on favorite game listsor whatever, but the but those
games definitely define theswitch for me.
And I think it's like theSwitch ultimately for me, like
being someone who loves handheldgaming so much, like I have
played plenty of hours docked,but like dude, the accessibility
of being able to play on thecouch, like still on the couch,

(56:15):
but like heck, my wife beingable to have like whatever TV
she got on and being able to oreven watch like her aside, say
we got some sports rocking, andyou can like to play footballs,
dude.
And you can just play a littlebit of switch during the
commercials or whatever you gotgoing on, dude.
I love it, it's so dope.
And then you know, like wementioned earlier, like being
able to play it on a plane, likeall this other stuff, dude.
Like, dude, it's a system.
I think it's the best system ofall time.

(56:36):
I think so too, dude.
I think I look at the switchtoo, and I see the switch to as
it's almost like the Wii U.
It's like a necessary upgrade,and people are stoked on it.
Uh I was looking up earlier, Ithink 3.5 million units have
already sold in the first fourdays.
So like people are buying it,and they seem to have like a
decent amount of inventory ofit.
But there's a littleprediction, dude.

(56:58):
I think it'll taper off.
Like, I don't think yeah, Idon't like.
I mean, we plan on buying it alittle bit later, but like the
thing is is like I just don'tfeel that it will have like
dude, we're talking about asystem that had a lifespan of
eight, nine years, and like byall means, like could go on,
like without a switch to update,in my opinion.
Um it's gonna take like so it'sthe greatest system ever for a

(57:21):
variety of things.
It runs that gambit like wetalked about from the novelties
of Switch Circuit to like beingable to play some of the more
complex games handheld and thenthe handheld to the TV.
And it's just gonna take likean absolute bang or a Zelda
game.
Yeah.
That you can only play on thenew capabilities.
It's gonna take an absolutebanger Mario game.
Like they're gonna have torelease like first party heat

(57:43):
before people really for surefuck with it.
For sure.
Me included, like and thenSteam Deck has come up, a lot of
people Xbox got their thing,but the only thing they can
never compete with comes down tofirst party IP and Nintendo IP
for sure.
Yeah, but also like how thesystem works, its

(58:03):
functionability, itsaccessibility.
Like I read an article that uha journalist was talking about
how the new Xbox handheld isjust super heavy.
Yeah, I saw that too.
And she's like, Maybe I'm justa petite gamer, but you know, if
you want to get all weird on meabout saying that, I'm not the
only petite gamer.
Yeah.
So like legit concern here.
Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.
I prefer paying if I'm likeplaying with the Steamy D, like

(58:25):
I put a pillow on my lap and putit on top.
Because it's like not overlyheavy, but it's heavy enough
where you get earlier on you'retalking about the switch and
then numb hands you get from theholding or whatever.
Yeah, that's it.
Switch bra, fixed that.
So necessary accessories.
So yeah, it's the best.
And then now there's a morecrowded market, so a lot of
those indies I can play.
So when I look at what theswitch to would mean, I'm like,

(58:46):
well, I no longer need it forlike my hollow nights and you
know, silksong will be availableand other stuff too.
And then, you know, I'm not, Igot an Xbox Series X, I'm not
gonna play Madden on my Switch2.
Yeah, right.
So like what's its purpose?
And the answer is an absolutebanger of a Zelda game.
I can't.
I don't think the Switch 2, Idon't think the Switch 2's got
eight years in it.

(59:07):
You know what I'm saying?
No, and we'll see whereconsoles are moving in general
with like them tapering off.
Because like when Xbox orPlayStation talks about a new
system, I'm like, for what?
Yeah, fair.
Have you even taken advantageof like the Series X's
capabilities?
No, barely.
Or the PlayStation 5.
And then the PlayStation, likeNintendo's got games that I'd

(59:28):
have some serious FOMO.
I was a PlayStation boyforever.
Yeah.
And still don't give a fuckthat I don't have a five.
Sure, sure, sure.
Couldn't be bothered to buyone.
Got that switch though.
The switch two is what we'llsee though.
Cool, man.
Let's run through real quickthe uh all the games that we
played for the pod on ourswitches.
Yeah, while you're pulling thatup, I just want to say uh a

(59:49):
shout out to Tyler.
I like nagged him incessantlyabout how I needed to get a
switch.
And I was like, dude, I'llborrow you freaking Zelda.
And I like I it was reallycute.
I like went with him to Targetand we picked out his uh he got
the Odyssey edition.
Oh word Odyssey.
So it's just a cute littleromance of just like running
over to Target with him.
He's like, dude, you have toget him in like we were younger

(01:00:10):
men, we didn't have children, sowe could just drop a few
hundred dollars on a whim.
Yeah, but it was that was cute.
Neither of us had Odyssey onthe list.
I that was one that like forsure absolute great game.
Yeah, dude, a good superawesome game.
Um, but for that doesn't definethe system for me for whatever
reason, although Mario isquintessentially like Nintendo.
Yeah, but you get himeverywhere else with the cart
and the golf, like his mainlinegames are pretty solid.

(01:00:34):
I mean, the one that came outis tight, too.
Hades was an honorable mentionfor me.
Yep.
Um just that was obviouslyeverywhere.
I mentioned it with my ha showone night, yeah.
There you go.
That's why you got you.
Uh but I think we both playedthat on on the Switch though.
Oh yeah.
Yep.
So that was episode two, Hades.
The second episode.
Second episode.
And then the hidden episodebefore that we were so bad at

(01:00:57):
it.
And we had a microphone on atable in the middle of your
living room and your dog wasbarking.

Alex (01:01:01):
Yeah.

Luke (01:01:02):
And I was like, cut that out, put that here, and you're
like, yeah, post-editing magic,that totally works like that.
Yeah, well.
That was uh Super Metroid, no?
Uh correct.
Yeah, so that would have beenon the NSO.
I think I might have played iton the episode.
Episode Zero, I played on theNSO.
Tight.
With the sound effects, mycellular device.
Don't worry about it.
Um, totally, yeah.

(01:01:22):
So I think I played that one onthe uh the net the Super
Nintendo Mini or whatever class.
Sweat.
But what you gonna do?
Uh but fair, yeah.
Um maybe that was briefly madeavailable uh to folks, and maybe
it will be again someday.
It's a fun episode.
It's the nightmare for thefans.
Yeah, if you think we suck now,dude, you should have heard it

(01:01:43):
then, dude.
Uh Hades, episode three ofMario Golf Super Rush.
Yeah.
Go back and hear us.
Wax actually, we didn't liketotally wax baggage on that.
We we like it, but um if youwant a shorter version, I'd
maybe just give you the rant.
Episode four, the Legend ofZealas Skyward Sword.
That was a great Switch game,dude.
Yes.
I thought about it when I wasputting my my list together.
I thought of it on the drivehere.

(01:02:03):
I was like, it's an excellentport, and the way they made the
motion controls actually funwith the thumbsticks was great.
Gave new life to a very goodgame that was lost on a shit
system.
Dude, for the people that havebeen following me since like
before I changed over to lowfive gaming, and my Instagram
handle was Ness Obsessed.

Alex (01:02:21):
Yeah.

Luke (01:02:21):
Uh this podcast was Ness Obsessed for a long ass time,
dude.
Like all of our games arefucking from the Switch.
The next one, episode five,Metroid Dread.
Mm-hmm.
Wow.
Looking at the poster rightnow.
Yeah.
That one was an arrow Metroid.
I like had that on my list andremoved it for the home circuit,
dude.
It's really cool.
It's so good.
It's like it is a greatMetroidvania.

(01:02:43):
It's a Metroid game, obviously,but like for the systems
capabilities, I feel like it itlike hits it the max.
Like I think it like.
Yeah, it's great.
I mean, I bought the I bought Ibought like the super whatever
sick post.
Yeah.
Holographic of Jude.
Uh got the little coffee tablebook too.
Uh but then we move right intothe Legend of Zelda Ocarina of

(01:03:06):
Time.
Ocarina of Time.
Are these in order?
Dude, these are in order.
We didn't even mess with like anah.
We just like.
Um so Ocarina Time, I think Iplayed on the 3DS, but you
probably played NSO.
100%.
Uh Skyrim.
So the Skyrim I played on thePC, but then that says oops,
we're going off of Switch games.
Uh Bachelor Party.
But you have Skyrim I just gotto be able to do that.
The whole the homie I don't,but the homie ace at my bachelor

(01:03:28):
party was like half conscious,just being a barbarian,
barreling things, smashingthings, passing out.
That was a fun memory.
Uh, I played, and I think youprobably did too, Dead Cells,
which was episode eight on theSwitch.
Sure did.
That was also an honorablemention for me because I I do
love that game and it was verymuch like accessible via the
handheld and everything.
It's a good game on there.
Episode nine, Kirby and theForgotten Land.

Alex (01:03:49):
Pew Pew.

Luke (01:03:50):
Uh we're gonna skip a couple episodes.
Teenage Mutant Ninja TurtlesShredder's Revenge, episode 12.
That was sick on that.
That was a great game.
Another cool like co-op gamewhere we got together with uh
none other than Ace, but didn'the just like unannounced drop in
from the cabinet?
Like it was open, and all of asudden he's like, yo, let me in,
and we're like, whoa! That wasfun.
That was fun.

(01:04:10):
Uh let me see.
Then we jump into some of thethings.
Did you play Portal and Portal2 on uh I played on the PC, but
those uh those were half switch?
Much to Tyler's delight.
And public campaigning andprivate campaigning.
Super Mario World, I playedthat via NSO.
Same.
I would never have beat itwithout it.

(01:04:31):
Uh that's episode 16.
I kind of love the NSO forplaying hard old games because I
can actually, you know, on myown goddamn terms.
Uh Bloodstained Curse of theMoon.
That was a Switch game for me.
Yes.
I think you too.
Yeah.
Uh let's see, Celeste.
I played on the Switch, much touh the chagrin of my Joy-Cons.
Uh when I first saw we played,I started Celeste, um, probably

(01:04:54):
around the panty.
Uh that's how I actually gotlike stick drift or whatever.
Got him fixed.
Smacking it around.
And I apparently did notrespect the I just went for it
again.
But but they're okay.
So we're alright.
There we go.
Uh Witch of Witcher 3 WildHunt.
Uh, that was a half switch forme.
Uh that was episode 21.

(01:05:14):
Let's see.
The Legend of Zelda Tears ofthe Kingdom, episode 24.
Super Mario Land 2, Six GoldenCoins, probably in NSO for you.
Correct.
Episode 26, Dredge.
I did that on the Switch.
As did you, I believe.
Maybe not.
Xbox.
Oh, you did that on Xbox.
Right on.
Uh well, half half switch.

(01:05:35):
Donkey Kong Country, anotherone that I did on the Switch via
NSO.
Once again, on my own terms.
Uh Sea of Stars.
Sea of Stars, I have on theSwitch.
I actually did that via Xboxbecause it was on Game Pass at
the time.
But I did buy the physical copyfor the Switch.
Uh Grease.
Grease.
That's probably what we werecalling it on the episode, but

(01:05:56):
Greece.
Um that's episode 29.
Played that on the Switch.
Uh how about you?
Where did you play it?
I don't remember.
Was it a Game Pass game?
Might have just done it on thegame.
Yeah, it could have been.
I owned a digital copy on theSwitch.
I played it there.
Uh The Lost Crown, Prince ofPersia, episode 32.
That I did on the Switch.
I believe you did that on Xbox.
Um let me see.

(01:06:19):
So you can kind of see thatSwiss is we were super heavy,
and that was like in the heat ofbefore we had the new consoles
and before, yeah.
But for the Echoes of Wisdom,episode 39.
Good game.
Uh Kirby 64, Crystal Shardsprobably did that on this NSO
same.
Uh and that is that is the uhthat is the Switch list.

(01:06:40):
That's the list.
Low five gaming episodes.
Cool.
So goodbye, sweet prince.
You could be around.
Be around for a while.
There's some games beat onthere, but I I've found it hard
to keep it going with mystreaming day.
Fair enough, dude.
There's certain games thoughthat's like I mean, all my
physical games, I preferredobviously to play it on the
Switch because that's what Igotta do with Yeah.

(01:07:01):
Um there are things about likesome people like rip on the
Joy-Cons.
I don't mind them, especiallywhen you've got like the grip or
the bras, like as you like tocall it.
Um they I think I'm justprobably maybe I'm just used to
them, but I'm more forgiving toJoy-Cons than many people are.
Battery life is phenomenal.
The the low the battery life isphenomenal.
The low sticks, like the Idon't I don't mind it, dude.

(01:07:24):
Like, so the sometimes there'scertain games where the high
sticks on the Steamy D likedoesn't feel quite, or it just
takes me a little bit more timeto get used to.
Um but yeah.
That's our list, dude.
Another low five, top five.
Parent, param, param, param.
Messing around with the formata little bit.
Uh it's been a long one, so Idon't even know.
Maybe you want to do a quickside quest?
Yeah, I'll keep it real quick.

(01:07:45):
Cool.
I've just apparently turnedinto a later in life metalhead
demon guy.
There you go.
I, you know, I tried to talkyou into playing Doom Eternal.
Yeah.
Uh you didn't, but that's okay.
I did not.
Um I didn't get as far as Iwanted to either, so I can't
really nag you too far.
Uh that game's sick though.
Uh I'm playing it, and my wifelooks up and she goes, This game
is like demonic.

(01:08:06):
And I was like, literally.
Sure is.
I was like, quite, quiteliterally, that's actually part
of the whole deal.
That is like a that is a gamethat I would like totally play
handheld or in my office, orlike I just wouldn't, I just
wouldn't be able to play that.
I wouldn't play it in front ofyou.
Inflicting that upon anyoneelse.
Uh it's sweet on the big old TVthough.
It's so not my type of game,right?
That like it's kind of cool.

(01:08:27):
Like, I just kind of like Inever cared about like a linear
shooter much, but it has anexcellent map.
Uh the action it's soaggressive.
It's a yeah, and it's a littlebit of a dance as far as like
you need to constantly move, youneed to pull out this gun to do
that, you need to pull out thatgun to do this newer.
You gotta do this thing toreload, you gotta do this thing,
or get new ammo, you gotta dothis thing to re-get your

(01:08:47):
health, you gotta get this thingto get your armor.
So it's a bit of a dance, so itcan be a little tiring, but
like I feel like they play tooheavily into the melee bit.
Like you need to like tearpeople's heads off to like
harvest health and ammo.
Yes, like a little bit morethan I would prefer.
Like, I don't mind it, I thinkit's cool, but like a bit of a
dance, yeah.
Right.
So I but that's that's my onlyqualm with with the newer Doom
games.
But it's tight and thentransition to uh also picked up

(01:09:12):
Diablo 4, which um I have neverplayed a Diablo.
I have some fuzzy memories.
Dude, someday I'm gonna get youto play Diablo 1 for the pod.
I think after playing Diablo 4,that might not be hard.
Yeah, all right.
Um, it might be fun to go back.
I mean, I certainly think Ishould check out Diablo 2.
It seems to be the mostlegendary of them all.
Uh Diablo 4 never played agame.

(01:09:33):
Some about me.
I had a buddy I asked if he hadany interest or played it, and
he said uh he doesn't like thehe couldn't think of the word,
but he doesn't he's not has nointerest because of the
isometric view.
Oh, weird.
Dude, the older I get, I thereason I did not judge is
because I agreed for a longperiod.
And then there's just I don'tknow if it's just like I love
isometric games.
Dude, I I love them.

(01:09:54):
I love that diorama look, andlike I'm loving I just smack
buttons around.
My wife had to get up and movebecause she was reading a book,
and like I was didn't have thesound on, I had headphones in
for once, I wasn't hitting itdirty for once, and I was
smacking the keys soaggressively, she was just like,
what?
Like the Steamy D is gettingwrecked on this thing.
But big shout out to Diablo 4,it's instantly addicting.

(01:10:17):
I love it, and the Steam Deckcould not be a better device for
that game.
Perhaps we'll hear more aboutthat later.
Not today, though, like in amonth.
I mean, when yeah, shoot.
I can dig it, dude.
Loop in demon mode.
Just been a demon, I guess.
I never thought I was into thatgoth kind of fantasy aesthetic.

(01:10:40):
Maybe, maybe Elden Ring kind ofgot me down the dark fantasy
road, and here we are.
But demons.
Yeah, you my my side quests aredude, it's been wild, man.
I I mentioned to you, it's likeI've been kind of in like a
gaming drought.
Like I'm still messing withgames and stuff, but I've been
bopping around a lot and likenothing was hooking, and like I
just didn't have like a I made ajoke, dude.
I Jimmy Butlered you and I waslike, just lost my game of joy,

(01:11:04):
dude.
Which is like there's a youknow I think that's a some
gaming Viagra dude he's lost.
No, I got I kind of got it backthough, for sure, dude.
Like that's his dude.
Like for sure, baby.
It's back, his back, his back,dude.
Uh dude, I I rolled the creditson Mafia, which is a uh yeah,
dude.
That game was uh it was likethere's nothing like extremely
special about Mafia, but it'slike the game I needed to like

(01:11:26):
it was like not terribly long,took me about 12 hours to beat.
Is it like a remaster or uh itis a remaster of the original?
So it's um I mean so that cameout in like 2017, 2018,
something like that.
Yeah, um, the remaster did.
Uh, but it's just a thirdperson like cover shooter
basically.

Alex (01:11:42):
Yeah.

Luke (01:11:43):
Uh so and it's linear.
I think I really needed alinear game.
I've been playing like ortrying to play all these open
worlds and just like beingoverwhelmed and like just like
the time commitment is too much.
We hated linear so much that weoverdid the world that's
brought us right back to linear.
Dude, 100%.
I needed it, like just uh theDoom feels good.
I'm like, I shoot, I don'tlisten to storylines or what's

(01:12:06):
going on.
And you like, I mean I knowyou're progressing in like a in
an open world, but like, butalso it's just too like it's
it's too open.
Like I needed to be able topush through something.
The story in Mafia is prettygood, like the gameplay is
pretty good.
Like there's like you know,it's very much like middle of
the road, like it's not like noone's gonna be like this is the
best game of all time, but youknow what?
It's a game I needed.

(01:12:27):
I love cover shooters too.
Like, you know, I'm like I'm afan of them.
People like that game though,like it's got its own following.
For sure, it's got a cultfollowing for sure.
Um it kind of came out in thatGTA, the original, came out in
that GTA era.
It has people are GTA, they'retrying to chase that, and they
did a good job of being a badclone, it's like it's all thing,

(01:12:48):
uh, with a lot of like it hasthe GTA feel for sure.
Um, and I'm uh I listen to alot of like you know, video game
discourse, and I like a lot ofpeople in the in the gaming
community, especially thepodcast gaming communities that
I dabble in, kind of hate onlike early Grand Theft Autos.
And I'm like, why?
I don't understand.
As in like three and four andstuff, like oh and five even.

(01:13:11):
No, no, five.
I don't even fuck that to behonest.
I don't either.
But like three and four, dude,like like people that don't like
the I think it too, I'm notsure what games they are
playing, but like I'vedefinitely heard a lot of folks
say that the the button schemeslike they don't like.
They just haven't aged as wellas you'd think for how I
remember them.
Like San Andreas, I have thecrazy fond memories of, but I

(01:13:31):
don't think I'd like to.
I mean, I've played I've playedlike some like I fired up by
like on the on the PS Vita orwhatever, like Vice City or
whatever the Vice City stories,and I understand that like some
of the controls are a littleweird, but it's not it's not
that big a deal.
But anyway, do Mafia, and thenI was like, I don't know if I
want to go right into Mafia 2,but I want to like see a little
bit.
So I like dabbled to beginningin Mafia 2, and I was like,

(01:13:51):
okay, cool, I'll like come tothis in a year or two.
I don't know.
But I started uh messing aroundwith some other games, and um
and then what has stuck is Iactually fired up Spider-Man um
Marvel Spider-Man, MilesMorales.
Yeah, very important to get theMarvels in there because that's
like the actual title becausethey had like a whole Spider-Man

(01:14:13):
series before that.
Um so, anyways, Miles Moralesthough, uh I played Spider-Man
Marvel's Spider-Man crash umwhen it came out for the beast.
I enjoyed that game so much,and I was actually thinking
about it.
It's like actually criminalthat it's not on my top ten

(01:14:34):
games list and it might make itsway in there the next time we
revisit.
I almost cried at the end ofthe story.
I know, dude.
I know.
And Miles Morales is uh I don'tknow if the story's better, but
I will fully admit that likesome of the the action, the
gameplay, and some of theelements they added to it do it.
Have you played Miles Morales?
Okay, well, that's good.
Uh and uh but I had gottenmaybe half of the way through

(01:14:56):
it.
It's not a terribly long game.
I think you can beat it inabout 12 hours or less.
Uh yeah, it's like not a DLCnecessarily, but it's basically
it's its own game, but it's kindof like a DLC, yeah, for sure.
Um, but I had gotten at leasthalfway through it, and it's
like one of the most PC gamingthings that ever happened to me.
Like my save just got likeobliterated, like for no reason,
just like erased, and I have noidea why.

(01:15:18):
Which is like usually Steampretty good about that kind of
thing.
Yeah.
But uh yeah, I went like wayinto my Steam like save files,
like the cloud and everything,tried to tried to but I just
didn't want to redo it, dude.
You know when you lose a gamelike that that far in, you know,
I was just like, you know what?
I can't do this again.
Yeah, no, I wasn't a Matsu.
So like uh you know, so I letit sit for like two, three years
or whatever.
And then after like playing alittle bit of 3D action like

(01:15:40):
cover shooter, I was like, well,maybe maybe I'll fuck around,
Miles Maras a little bit.
You need that inspo.
And it wasn't it's been nice,dude.
And I'm three quarters of theway through now.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, Spider-Man's cool sidequest, shock.
Well she does.
It's been fun another low fivetop five, little quick side
quest.
Nice to meet in person.
Thanks to y'all for listening.
If you made it this far, you'rea bucking champion.

(01:16:01):
Pew pew.
I don't know.
I'm not energy.
I'm just giving you pew pew'snow.
Uh it's all good.
It's been a long one, dude.
But uh, but thank you.
Thank you for listening.
Head over to low5gaming.com,buy a fucking t-shirt or
something.
I'm just gonna update thet-shirts.
But uh buy one, god damn it.
Do do appreciate you though.
Do appreciate you listening.
Um rating.

(01:16:22):
To drop any game that youpersonally feel like should be
added to the conversation.
There isn't as far as just agame that doesn't need to be a
popular one, doesn't need to beyour favorite game.
But when you think of theSwitch, yes, sir, what are your
games?
Yes, we'd love to know.
Uh, there is an invite to theDiscord there.
We've had a couple people dropin there, uh, which is cool.
Uh recent people, I should say.
Nice.
Um, love that.

(01:16:43):
Love people coming in.
Hit me up on the you know, lowfive gaming on the the social
medias as well.
But yeah, we'd love to hear.
I'm gonna drop in the Discordour list, have a little
conversation there if you'dlike, if you want to tell us
what we miss, what we're out ofpocket on, all that kind of fun
stuff.
Uh yeah, no, I think that's it.
Till next time.

Alex (01:17:05):
Bye.
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