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In this inspiring episode of Luke Mind Power Podcast, Coby Watts, a DJ, influencer, and mental health advocate, shares his powerful journey of self-discovery and transformation. Known as the king of ADHD content, Coby opens up about the struggles of being labeled and the challenges of living up to public expectations. From dealing with ADHD to reclaiming his identity and mental health, Coby’s story is one of resilience, growth, and pushing through life’s hardest moments. In this candid conversation with Luke Chlebowicz, Coby discusses how he’s moving beyond his ADHD identity and embracing his true self while overcoming personal and professional challenges.

Coby reflects on the importance of self-love, setting boundaries, and facing rejection head-on to become the person you are meant to be. He speaks openly about his struggles, from battling with self-doubt to dealing with external validation and expectations, offering valuable lessons on how to break free and embrace authenticity.

πŸ”‘ Key Takeaways:

βœ… Breaking Free from Labels Coby reflects on the limitations of being labeled as the "ADHD guy" and the importance of embracing one's true identity.

βœ… Transforming Challenges into Strengths Coby shares how his darkest moments have led to his most powerful breakthroughs.

βœ… Investing in Yourself Why taking time for self-reflection and growth is crucial for long-term success.

βœ… The Role of External Validation How chasing external validation can hinder personal growth and authenticity.

βœ… From Struggles to Success Coby’s journey of overcoming obstacles and building a life of purpose, self-worth, and fulfillment.

βœ… Embracing Change How to evolve and transform while staying true to your core values.

⏱️ Key Timestamps:

[00:00:00] – Introduction: Meeting Coby Watts, the King of ADHD Content

[00:05:00] – The pressure of being labeled as the ADHD guy [00:10:30] – Overcoming self-doubt and embracing authenticity

[00:15:00] – Setting boundaries and taking responsibility for personal growth

[00:20:15] – Coby’s struggle with external validation and the shift in mindset

[00:30:00] – The importance of self-love and putting mental health first

[00:35:30] – Rejection as redirection and learning to stand up for yourself

[00:40:00] – Coby’s journey through personal struggles and growth

[00:45:00] – The transition from ADHD content creator to embracing new possibilities

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Website: https://cobywatts.shop/pages/my-storyΒ  Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/cobywattsmusic/p/DAQSe2JTzXy/

Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/cobywattss/?_rdc=1&_rdr#Β 

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LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/in/lukechlebowicz

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πŸ™Œ Enjoyed this episode? This episode is a reminder to never give up on yourself and to always keep fighting, no matter what struggles you face. Remember, you are enough just the way you are.

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(00:00):
Everything that has happened to me, and I don't blame anyone, I
blame myself because I was the one who allowed it to happen.
The link between ADHD content and me.
It's like ADHD content works andI don't really want to do it
anymore because of. Kobe Watts is a DJ, influencer,
and a powerful voice in the mental health space.

(00:21):
He's known as the king of ADHD content, but beyond that, he's a
living example of what it means to chase your dreams and never
give up on yourself. From changing lives through his
raw, relatable content to inspiring thousands with his
story, Kobe's not just building a brand, he's building hope.
A lot of people who probably follow you and are struggling
with ADHD or this diagnosis, they feel like, Oh my gosh, I

(00:44):
can relate to this person so much.
He talks like me. He says things like I'm
struggling with. Everywhere I go it's like oh
you're the ADHD guy. I just got diagnosed because of
you. I love your ADHD content.
Because of this mass following that you have and because of
like the recognition that you get as well, because this is the
thing when you grow on social media and you get a lot of
attention, it's almost like a dopamine hit constantly.
Like it's like boom boom boom boom.

(01:06):
Do you feel afraid or do you feel rejected or scared that a
lot of people will unfollow you and will judge you because of
possibility of saying you know I'm not the ADHD guy anymore,
I'm Kobe Watts. I don't really care what people
say about me online anymore. Like I used to care, but I
really don't care anymore. Your DJ career, is there

(01:27):
anything happening there bro? Are you planning on making a big
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(01:49):
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world. And now I want to help you to to

(02:10):
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wish to see in the world. What's up everyone, how you

(02:30):
doing? Welcome to the Luke mine power
podcast. It's a blessing to be alive and
man, I'm so grateful because we got someone coming on the
podcast today. That is absolutely really
extraordinary. His name is Kobe Watts.
He's a DJ, he's an influencer, he's a mental health advocate.
He's freaking the king of ADHD content and everything else

(02:51):
mental health related, I reckon.Like, he's really just a big
powerful example of, you know, not giving up on your fucking
dreams, not giving up on yourself.
And you know, he's changed so many people's lives and helped
so many people just with his social media platforms, his
content. I got to live with Kobe in 2022
as well. I met Kobe back in 2020 when he
was trying to get me to sign up to some shit on Instagram.

(03:14):
And back then, you know, back then I didn't have, I didn't
have any followers. I had like 5000 followers.
So you know, I didn't have nothing.
And Kobe had like 80,000. I was like, wow, who's Kobe
Watts? Wow, he's got 80,000 followers.
Shit. So anyway, guys, welcome Kobe
Watts to the podcast. Bro thanks to the intro and
thanks for having me. I forgot about that whole rule

(03:36):
period where I think I've seen you in the bin, like doing an
ice bath or maybe you might havebeen hands or something.
In the comedy. Yeah, you were doing something,
bro. And I, yeah, I'd forgotten about
that until just then. But yeah, that is how we first
connected. And what a journey.
What a journey. Yeah, man, I mean, what?
I saw you there. You were on, Yeah, you had like

(03:58):
80,000 or 7000 on Instagram and and then you had your playlist.
I think you had your, your Spotify playlist attached to
your link in the bio. And that's because, you know,
you also, you know, you're very well connected in the music
industry as well, DJs and stuff like that.
You know, you're a DJ yourself. So yeah, I was just like, wow,

(04:19):
here's this dude. Like, you know, he must be
really famous or whatever. Yeah, I guess I was.
But like, it doesn't really matter, does it?
Like that's one thing I've learned, you know, since doing
this whole social media thing, Iguess is like, yeah, it's cool
and it helps and it, you know, able you to live the life you
want. But at the end of the day, we're
all humans, bro. And I think that's one thing

(04:41):
that I did is I put people on pedestals due to the amount of
like, followers I had or something.
But as I've like born on this journey, I've realised that a
lot of people who do have, you know, followers or whatever,
they, they, they're not who you think they are.
And you look up to these people and you're like, you meet them
and you're like, whoa, like what?

(05:01):
I, I didn't expect that. They're just like people, bro,
like you and I, And that's one thing I've learned about the
whole thing about, you know, youmentioned like, oh, look at this
guy's got 80,000 and yeah, it's cool.
But So what? Like, I don't know, that's just
where I'm at, bro. In life like it I I've
definitely changed a lot, that is for sure.
Luke, that is for. Sure.
Yeah. It's kind of like this statement

(05:21):
that Les Brown says. He says money doesn't make you
happy, but everyone, everybody wants to find out for
themselves, you know, like he says something like that way.
It's like, you know, you don't know, like what you don't know.
And and you always think that, you know, if someone is
successful, if someone has more than you or someone is, you
know, on a different higher level than you, as you perceive,

(05:41):
then you're going to think that they are happier, right.
And it's almost like, you know, we get lost in in thinking that,
you know, what we have is not enough, you know, So it's kind
of like everyone wants to go on a journey for themselves to
figure it out, I guess. And then you realise as you keep
growing that, you know, it's noteverything.
You know, I was listening to Will Smith actually on a video

(06:03):
and he was talking about becauseobviously he's very successful,
whatever. And you know, the the thing that
I was actually thinking about this in the gym, he's an actor.
And I'm like, OK, he's an actor,but he's human.
But he's doing an interview and I'm like, OK, he's talking about
success. And he's talking about how, you
know, you hit rock bottom. You know where rock bottom is.
Rock bottom is a shit place to be.

(06:25):
But then he also said, I figuredsomething out called Cliff top,
where you're at such a high level that you've achieved
everything. You've got everything that you
could ever dream of. You can buy whatever you want.
And so now there's nothing else you know.
Interesting. I've seen that clip.
I've seen that recently actually.
Hey. Yeah, yeah.
And, and so it's like we're all striving for that massive

(06:46):
success or whatever, like to to have everything or something
like that, but not realising that it's not everything.
Yeah, it's not, bro. It's so weird because like if
you told me I'd have what I havenow, you know, 20 years ago, I
would have just been like, so excited, man.
And I would have been like, oh, that's so cool.
And like, you know, I'll be on ayacht and like, you know, like

(07:07):
pop and champagne and like chicks everywhere and like
partying all the time, like having all these followers or
whatever. But yeah, man, as I, you know,
go along the journey and just like receive everything and
like, you know, it all happens. I'm like what?
Like what is all this, bro? And why did like, it doesn't
really, like make you happy. I guess it's just like, I don't

(07:28):
know. For me, it's, it's a challenge,
bro. It's so hard that like people
want to know how you know, you get to where we are, for
example, but they don't want to do what it takes to get them in.
It's not easy, dude. And it's like I mentioned to you
off camera. Sleepless nights, bro.
The amount of sleepless nights I've had on this journey due to
the life I have now I guess is like just wild, bro.

(07:51):
Like really wild, eh? What about you?
So, yeah, I mean, you know, definitely if I'm struggling
with anxiety or if I'm struggling with something in
life in the present moment, thenI'll be overthinking or I'll be,
you know, I mean, I've had timeswhere I've woken up at 3:00 in
the morning and I'm all I'm thinking about is business.

(08:11):
All I'm thinking about is all the shit that I need to do, you
know, But I'm just kind of curious, like where you're at
right now. Like what is a day in the life
of Kobe? Yeah, good question.
Where I will. Right now, my mental health and
my health in general is the mostimportant thing to me.
I had put on like last year, I put on a lot of weight, man.

(08:32):
I found myself in a really dark place again.
And since September last year, I've lost 9 kilos.
I'm currently training for 1/2 marathon.
I'm going to the gym five times a week.
I film videos everyday, surf like body board everyday.
Yeah, man, I'm just, I'm coming back to me because I feel like

(08:53):
it's a bit of a pattern that I was stuck in for many years.
I, I kept finding myself in the same situation with a different
person. And in that process and cycle, I
would lose myself. And yeah, I lost myself again,
man. Are you talking about?
Relationships, friendships, relationship, like just any sort
of like, yeah, any relationship.It doesn't have to be a partner.
I'm talking like friends and allsorts of stuff.

(09:16):
Same cycle, different person. That's what you said, yeah.
And So what have you learnt to get out of the cycle of
attracting those kind of people?Don't receive help of people
that I don't know when I'm in a very low frequency, man, because
when I was in those low States and frequency, I was attracting
people who were very hurt. I was very hurt, bro.

(09:37):
And I'm not afraid to admit that.
But those people were very good at what they did up here.
And they were very good at putting me underneath them as as
a puppet, I guess. And I was like, psychologically
I was getting like, yeah, it waspretty dark, bro.
And I feel like you've seen me in a cycle like that, hence why
I ended up living with you. But yeah, man, people have been

(10:01):
my biggest challenge over the last five years.
But I take full accountability for it.
And I've allowed everything thathas happened to me, happened to
me and I and I don't blame anyone.
I blame myself because I was theone who allowed it to happen.
And the lesson was bro, like I have to like step up bro and

(10:22):
look after me and not have someone else look after me or
not have mum and dad, you know, Get Me Out of trouble or come
say here like you did, like I I have to do it bro, I have to do
that. And I've done that man.
And I'm in a really good home right now.
My business is doing really well.
Yeah, content. I've got a little bit of like
where am I? Who am I thing going on?

(10:44):
But other than that, man, like my life is the best it's ever
been and I'm pretty firm on thatstatement.
Yeah. So, you know, we talk about
happiness and you talk about success and you talk about your
business and you talk about, youknow, I've got my, you know, got
a good living environment. I'm you know, I'm, I'm well
established in a sense. So what do you feel is missing
the? Link between ADHD content and me

(11:11):
not wanting to do it anymore. That's the link.
It's like ADHD content works andI don't really want to do it
anymore because of XYZ. And yeah it's a tricky one bro.
I copped a lot of hate because of the label recently.
Like I put a post up that peopledidn't agree with and I didn't
mean to do it. I accidentally pressed post
before explaining why and I think that day really just like

(11:33):
made me go man. I don't know if I want to be
associated with that name ADHD anymore.
And that's probably my biggest challenge in my life right now
because it's like a identity that everyone knows me for, and
it's like an ADFC guy. Do you feel like that label,
let's just call it a label, likewhatever you want to decide that

(11:56):
it is, you know, or it's a abbreviation or it's a
diagnosis, like whatever, it's fine.
There's no judgement here, you know, whatever you're dealing
with in life. I mean, I remember talking to
you about this in 2022, you know, and I'm really big on the
words that we use, you know, andwhatever you say is whatever you
become. So from what you're sharing with

(12:17):
me right now, I'm understanding or trying to like grasp that
because of the amount of contentyou've created and because of
like you, you're very creative. You know how to create content
you're very good at like, you know, getting people's attention
and, and also creating the content that and sourcing the
content because I've watched youlike, and we'll go into this a
bit deeper. You know that how we live
together and like the experiences that we had back in

(12:39):
2022. But because of this mass
following that you have and because of like the recognition
that you get as well, because it's this is the thing when you
grow on social media and you geta lot of attention, it's almost
like a dopamine heat constantly.Like it's like boom, boom, boom,
boom, keep people keep supporting.
You're loving, you're commenting, commenting,
commenting, and getting that allthe time is like, oh wow, it's

(13:00):
good validation. Yeah, external validation.
Like, look at me, I'm the man. Yeah, I agree.
Yeah. You know, so, so now it's like
you've evolved a little bit and you're going, you know, but but
I almost like I I don't want to.And I know it's kind of like I
don't want to be identified withADHD.
Like I just want to be me. I just want to like, like own

(13:22):
my, my, my life and not be, I guess labelled with that, you
know, I'm just I'm Kobe Watts, Like, let me play complete.
Yeah, 100%. Is that correct?
Or is that like what you're trying to?
Yeah, you hit the nail on the head, bro.
Like everywhere I go, it's like,oh, you're the ADHD guy.
I just got diagnosed because of you.

(13:42):
I love your ADHD content. You're like ADHD.
If I hear that word one more time, I'm like going to lose my
life. Not, not, you know, not really.
But like, dude, like, do I thinkthat people do?
I think that ADHD is a thing. I think there's a massive amount
of people all over the world whorelate to the label 100%.
Do I think that it helped me save my life being under the

(14:07):
label or diagnosed? Yeah 100% bro.
Did I put my hand in my heart when I say that?
Do I think I've outgrown it? I don't know if I've outgrown
it, but when you said I just want to be Kobe, that really hit
here because like I am Kobe, I am not the ADHD guy.
I am not like that stupid guy all the time.

(14:27):
Like, I can be like wild, I can be silly.
I can be like forgetful. But I also have so much more to
give to the world. And I have goosebumps like right
now when as I say this because, like, yeah, man, it's it really
hurts. Like, and I've had to, you know,
sit with a lot of pain and like,you know, a lot of stuff that's

(14:49):
come off me over the last coupleof months because like, people
will never understand how much, like, this whole like, ADHD
thing is messed with my head. And I really am doing everything
within my power to like, just like, be OK with it, but also
like, be more than just that, you know?
Yeah, absolutely, man. And I can relate to, and I

(15:10):
wonder if anyone listening can relate because I recently, you
know, I've gone through a big transition in my company and
with my coaching programmes. Now I have a coaching institute
where I teach people how to, youknow, start their online
coaching business, how to build their own coaching programme.
You know, I I teach them all thesocial media stuff as well.
But before that, when I was in Dubai a few months ago, I was at

(15:33):
a beach club with my fiance and with our dog.
And this girl came up and she's like, Oh my God, I love your
dog, you know, and can I play with the dog?
And I've had it and all that andlike, yeah, like, enjoy, you
know. And then her mum came over, or
it was her boyfriend's Mama, butanother lady, right?
And and then by the time the night, the afternoon was over,

(15:55):
we're about to leave, you know, my fiance said, hey, you know,
grab our like details, you know,like maybe you can look after
Toffee the dog, you know, when we're away or when we're busy or
whatever, you know. And so she gave the lady, she's
like, I'm holistic hypnotherapist and this is Luke
mind power. And the older lady said, oh, I

(16:15):
follow you. Oh, that's right.
You're the dancing guy, right? So it's not that I've copped it,
but it's that, you know, this isthe majority of the content that
I've created that has grown my audience, that a lot of people
still don't know that I have a podcast.
You know, they don't know that Ihave a coaching programmes that

(16:37):
can help them heal their childhood trauma or grow in self
love. They don't know that I have a
coaching institute that I can help people start their own
online coaching businesses. So they still see me as a the
dancing guy, you know, and I'm like, yeah, I'm the dancing guy.
But fuck, man. Like there's so much more than
that. Like, why do you think I dance?
Like, because I had to do some healing and I'm happy and I'm,

(17:00):
I'm joyful and I'm like living my best life, you know?
But it wasn't like that before Ihad to do some inner work, you
know? So I can relate to where you're
at, man, you know, in terms of that, in terms of the label of
like what people perceive you as.
But then it then it's our responsibility, I believe, to
teach people who we are, you know, and, and to be OK with.

(17:20):
I think what you're going through is a massive
transformation. It's a, it's an awakening moment
for you because it's like, you know what?
This is like my branding. This is what I've gone through
this process as being. But now it's time to evolve and
step out of that. And, and now I'm going to teach
you who I really AM. Yeah, and the ego can get very
hurt when that happens, bro, because like you go from being

(17:42):
this character and you go to them being someone completely
different to the character and the character's getting all
these views. And I'm not saying the
character's fake. I'm just saying like there's a
character online and that character's getting millions and
millions and millions of views. And then I try and be me and
everyone's like, whoa, who's this Like, what's this Like
where's your glasses? Where's your like, weed like

(18:05):
sounds coming out of you and allthis stuff.
And you see the views and you'relike 20,000 versus like 2
million. What do I do?
Do I go back to what's normal and be that guy for everyone
else and lose myself in the process?
Or do I put in the hard work like I know how to do and just
continue to show up every day and be me each and every day?
And that's what I'm doing, bro. So you've caught me at a very

(18:28):
interesting but powerful time inmy life for sure.
Do you feel afraid or do you feel rejected or scared that a
lot of people will unfollow you and will judge you because of,
you know, your possibility of saying, you know, I'm not the
ADHD guy anymore. I'm just, I'm Kobe Watts and I'm

(18:51):
a DJ. I'm a, you know, influencer or,
or, you know, I'm just a regular.
I'm just, you know, putting out positive content out there.
I feel I don't know if I'm scared.
I think I'm more. Like are you worried about the
rejection or are you worried about people going?
You know ADHD is a thing? Like what are you talking about?

(19:11):
I've been struggling with all mylife and and I related to your
content and now you're telling me that it's not.
Look bro, I'm sure there's always like that rejection
feeling there like this. Be real, bro.
My past wasn't like, you know, sunshine and rainbows.
I definitely believe that it's there somewhere.
I don't really care what people say about me online anymore.
Like I used to care, but I really don't care anymore.

(19:31):
I think I'm just more like, it'smy ego, bro.
That's like hurt. And it's like my ego is like,
yeah, it's like a bit embarrassing, bro.
Like I'm posting all this mad content.
I'm like not getting any like, traction for it almost, in my
opinion. Like I still am.
But it's nothing like it used tobe.
People are going to say what they're going to say, bro.
I've called Tate, like I said recently about the label.

(19:54):
I was hurt by it in the moment and I had to do a lot of
reflection on who these people were and where it was all coming
from and. Look bro, it's not going to be
easy, but yeah, man, there's a lot of stuff coming up, but I
don't know if I'm scared. I don't.
I don't think I'm scared. What's that scale?
What? Was the moment, was there a
specific moment lately? Was there a specific moment
that's kind of tipped over the edge that's gone?

(20:15):
Yeah, that's like I'm done. Yeah, I think it was just people
constantly talking about the pills, bro.
Like I I really like just man, Idon't know.
Hey, like I keep seeing like people like showing off their
pills and like saying like, oh, you know, I just took this and I
don't know, it just made me feelsick.
Hey, like I don't know why. I just felt really upset by
seeing people like Do. That what pills for what

(20:38):
managing. At the age.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's nothing wrong with
people who need it. I needed it at one point in
time. But I don't know, man.
I feel like it's just become like this thing that everyone's
like saying they have and like, I can see through people like,
it's one of my strongest gifts, man.
I can see through bullshit like no tomorrow.
And I'm like, man, half these people who are talking about it

(21:00):
now, I don't believe actually even really know what they're
even talking about. They're just doing it because
it's like the thing and I don't know, man.
I just felt upset because like Ialso potentially like got people
to get diagnosed, man. Like that really upset me.
And it like upsets me as I speakabout it now because like I
didn't do that for people to getdiagnosed.

(21:20):
I didn't do. I don't do what I do for people
to go pay thousands of dollars man and go get a diagnosis.
I didn't. I don't do the content I do.
So people think they need to poppills to feel better like I, I
didn't start that for that to happen.
And I feel like that's what kindof started happening, bro.
And I felt really. Well.
Upset about it this. Is the thing bro, you've got a

(21:41):
powerful voice and you've got a powerful platform to redirect
and influence people in a positive way.
Because what, what I believe, what I've learnt anyway is, is
our nature is to feel connected,you know, is to, is to feel like
we're a part of something greater than ourselves.
And that naturally is some sort of community.

(22:02):
So a lot of people who probably follow you and are struggling
with ADHD or you know, or this diagnosis or, or whatever, you
know, they're gravitating towards you because they feel
like, Oh my gosh, I can relate to this person so much.
He's, he talks like me. He says things like like I'm
struggling with. So do you think that it also can

(22:23):
be, It's not to dismiss that, you know, being traumatised as a
child or put under a lot of stress as a 5 year old or a four
year old or, you know, doesn't allow the brain to, to actually
develop. You know, I've listened to some
podcasts with Doctor Gabel Marteand, you know, one of the things
he talks about is, you know, between the ages of, you know,

(22:47):
five and seven. Like if, if the child is put
under a lot of stress, if it's been physically abused or you
know, like, you know, really, really uncomfortable situations
or circumstances, then it's verypossible that the brain is not
able to be developed correctly. And then that is something that
can also trigger, you know, thisresponse of ADDADHD, you know,

(23:08):
autism and all this kind of stuff.
So I mean, from what you're sharing, bro, I mean, I, I, I
was just, I just had an aha moment when you were talking
because I was like, bro, you've actually like it sounds to me
like you've overcome it. Bro, I don't feel like I like
don't get me wrong, Like I'm anxious like a little bit before
doing the podcast. I don't know why.

(23:28):
I just like like I get like a bit anxious before stuff like
this. I get a little bit overwhelmed
like that. Right now there's like lights
right in my face and I'm like shit, like I'm sitting here
going like bro, this is a lot. There's like sounds going
everywhere. I still, you know, have.
You're still hypersensitive to shit.
Yeah, sorry, hypersensitive like, but yeah, I feel like I, I

(23:49):
have bro, like I honestly do like I feel like I, yeah, like
if I'm not on top of my mental health, like, yeah, all those
like things that I, you know, post about can happen.
But like right now, bro, I have a structure and I know what I
need to do for me to feel the best I can feel.
And like last night I was a one off bro.
I there's I don't know about a one off, but it's very rare for

(24:12):
me to be up at 12:00 at night. I was up at 12:00 at night last
night. And the fact that I'm here right
now off like, you know, not muchsleep doing this with you.
I think it shows where I'm at, bro, and how far I've come
because like, you know, rewind 5years ago.
If I didn't sleep, dude, I wouldhave been like, like I.

(24:32):
Would have gone because of. My head bro, like literally like
I would have been like bro, likewhat's going on?
And like really like I would have come on here with my hoodie
on and being like, Hey bro, how you going man?
Like not being able to look at ya.
But I've I don't get, I don't want to say I've like figured it
out and craft the code, but man,I've I've learned so much dude.
And. Yeah.
I've come a long way for sure. That's amazing because I'm sure

(24:54):
that there's a lot of people that may be listening to this
bro, and they would love to maybe learn from you or they
would love for you to teach themsome shit, man.
Like how did you do it? Like what's the secret?
Like, what's the steps like? There's probably a lot of things
that you've learned in the last five years or 10 years that you
know who you were, you know whatyou were dealing with, you know
what you had to go through. And now you know, 2025, you know

(25:17):
you you've made a lot of progress and you're actually
getting in a better place. You're not at the best place.
You still struggle like as you mentioned a few things, but you
know, there's probably people that are in where you were in
2020, you know? Yeah, even last year, probably
like 2020 and last year were thetoughest years I've had.
And I know why they happened andI know why I got to the place

(25:38):
that I got to and I know what todo.
I I won't ever get there again. I know it, I will never get back
to that place or or close to that place mentally ever again.
But say I did say something happened, bro, I lost my way.
Say I, you know, put on 10 kilosagain and I couldn't touch my
toes like I couldn't last year and I couldn't almost get out of

(26:00):
bed. Say that happened, right?
You know, Fast forward three months from now, that's where I
was. I know exactly what to do to get
out of that place, man. And it works.
And it's not easy, bro. It's not easy.
Like none of these stuff that I do or the, you know, even you do
is easy, man. It's very uncomfortable.
It's very confronting. It's very painful.

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And I think a lot of people who do relate to what I do, they are
very mentally strong, bro. Because like you ought to think
like, yeah, you know, you, we say I've overcome it or
whatever, but like, dude, like, I know how hard it is, man.
And I can only imagine how many people going to listen to this
podcast who are like so fucked up right now, man.

(26:42):
I could only imagine, bro. So the fact that they're like,
even listening to this podcast, like it shows how strong they
are, bro, because like they're here today.
They haven't given up yet. And, and that's one thing that I
want people to know is that like, yeah, you can have all
these challenges and like traumas and like whatever people
controlling you or like, you know, financial stress, like I,

(27:04):
we all go through it. But like, just remember who you
are and how strong you are, man.Because like, dude, life is not
easy, bro. It's not fair.
Was never meant to be fair. But unfortunately, I don't want
to say unfortunately, but like the people like me and people
like you, we've been given a tough, like, you know, Rd that
we have to go on, bro. And once again, I'll leave it at

(27:26):
this. Just remember how tough you are
because like, you're here today.So.
Yeah. Would you say it's not an excuse
for living your dreams? What's that?
The label, yeah. No, no, you say, well I because
I've got ADHDI can't do it because I've got a DDI, can't
because I'm on the spectrum and like.

(27:47):
Nah, you'll never hear me say that, bro.
I I've Nah, no way bro. Like no way man.
I, I understand why people might, you know, think like
that, but I don't have a mindsetlike that, man.
I never have. I, I don't understand how people
can, you know, say that like, you know, it's an excuse like
for me, bro. Do you struggle with dyslexia?
Bro I'm dyslexic or autistic like whatever bro.

(28:09):
I'm on the spectrum dude. I am the spectrum.
I don't know, like I'm, I'm not smart when it comes to maths and
English. Like bro, I I like I'm looking
at words now and I'm like, bro, I didn't know that says, but
when it comes to like life, I'm so smart bro life and creating
content and like, you know, understanding humans, like human

(28:29):
beings, like dude, I'm so intelligent man, but I can't
tell you right now what 10 * 14 is.
I I don't know bro, like I can'tunderstand it and I I'm just
bro. You seen the video I posted,
bro, like like 140 of like of ofthe Nilo of the Nilo reading out
my my book bro I I'm so that's. Good.

(28:52):
I reckon 5 year olds could spellbetter than me, eh?
OK, so just a quick back story guys, myself and so 1st 2021 I
started my coaching business. I was living at my parents'
house. That's where I met, I think
earlier I might have met Kobe, but that was when we started
kind of chatting on Instagram. Six months later, I I had

(29:15):
$20,000 in my bank account because I started my coaching
business and it was enough for me to go.
I want to move out and I want tofind my own place.
So we rented a place in Thelmy in Sydney, Australia and I made
a decision. It's just so happened that
Danilo was looking to move somewhere as well.
Well, I thought, even hear his name right without laughing,

(29:38):
right? He called me and he goes, shit,
the real estate that came to us and told us we have to move out.
And I go, well, that's all right.
He goes, well, you know, we could, we could find a place
together to live. And I said, all right, well,
fuck, let's do it. So, so we we moved in together
to this house. And then obviously I started

(29:58):
making connections with you and you know, we were messaging back
and forth a few times and then eventually down along the the
year 2022, you came over. And then Long story short, guys,
eventually a few months later, Kobe was dealing with some shit
at home or wherever you were living and all that kind of
stuff. And we're like, bro, you know,
there's a spare bedroom here, man, like fucking, you know, you

(30:20):
can come stay with us. And Kobe did so, so basically
me, Kobe and Danilo, we were living together in filmy.
And basically I wanted to ask you, I'm like, what is it about
Danilo that makes you laugh? Because there's something about
him. I've always said that he's the
funniest guy I've ever known. Like, he's a comedian, you know,

(30:41):
like, and literally as we were living like you, there was not
one time in the house where you were able to have a straight
conversation with him because you would be live.
Bro, we had our first ever serious conversation.
Like no, I know I'll take that back.
We talk seriously all the time. But in person bro like.

(31:03):
Oh man, it's. Bro.
But his face he does like. Bro, he's like this.
You say say like or watch me, bro, watch me.
He'll go. At least he'll go.
Wait, watch me, wait, watch me. You'll go.
You go, you go. And like he'll just look at you,

(31:23):
bro. And you go, what?
What's going on? What's going on?
Wait. And then like, he'll act out
like he's not doing it, but thenlike he'll go.
I don't know, man. He's just like.
Yeah, yeah, he's, he's. He's probably the best human
being I've ever met in my life, man.
I, I, I really like and very grateful that I connected with
you brokers like obviously like your best friends with Danilo

(31:45):
and like, man, he's definitely one of my best mates, bro.
Like I am so grateful for you, man.
Like he's like, he's something else, dude.
And I think that Oh yeah, I'm just grateful to have both you
and him in my life. But man, you know, he's just an
Iller man and you can't take away his bro.
He's one of them. Like I just man, like even

(32:07):
saying his name, like it brings up like a lot of like like my my
my soul lifts like and he's not even here and like if he was, if
I would just. He's like Kobe, you know, real
talk, man, I think like he's going to be super successful.
He's already growing and he's he's he's, you know, growing and
growing more and more. But I believe, like, maybe not,

(32:30):
you know, maybe I'm making an assumption, but I truly believe
that there is something else in him that he hasn't let out yet.
Yeah. Yeah.
You know, because the truth is like more financial security or
more cash makes you more confident.
You know what, the, the more that you are like successful in

(32:52):
a way, the more confidence you kind of have to do things to
live life to, to, to take more risks to, you know.
So I feel like, you know, he also, because I know him
personally and I know how funny he is and he's so like his, his,
his sense of humour is just so funny, you know, and I know he's
a DJ and he does everything he does and he's great.

(33:13):
But I like, it's almost like there's something about that
comedian like that, that funny side of him that I'm like, I
wonder if that's ever going to come out like in the public.
It'll only come out if he does stuff like I don't know, start
showing like him like a vlog forexample on YouTube and like
people get seeds I. Actually need Joe viral like

(33:37):
like he's, he's shit like literally God like I because of
him, like he's been the influence for me.
He's the one that like inspired me to dance on TikTok.
You know, the way he talks, the the words he comes up with.
I always learned the words from him, you know, like the way he

(33:58):
dances, like I learned how to dance from him, like his style,
you know, so he's really like got this charm about him, you
know what I mean? And he's very like likeable,
influential, you know, but let's, let's, let's talk about
this, this situation because I think that people listening,

(34:19):
maybe a lot of people are struggling with boundaries, with
self confidence, with like, you know, making the right decisions
for themselves. So, you know, you were living
with us and it came to the end of 2022 where I was thinking
about, OK, we're moving out. The, the lease is up.
And I'm thinking about, I want to move to a bigger house.
You know, I want to get a big mansion.

(34:40):
You know, I want to fucking move.
I don't want to live here anymore.
And you were living with us at the time.
And so I had to make the decision.
And then I realised and I was like, you know what, Like I'm
looking for a house that's like $1500 a week in, like a good
suburb in Sydney. And I'm like, fuck, it's like,
it's nice. I've got a pool, got everything,
you know what I mean? It's, you know, and it's what I

(35:02):
want. But then am I going to foot the
bill? Like the whole thing, you know?
And I don't even know what I wasthinking.
Me being single, like, no one else is coming.
It's just me. Like, what the fuck, you know.
But yeah. But then I was like, well, hang
on a second. If Danilo comes with me and I
said to him, I go, bro, I go. If you pay 600 bucks a week,
I'll cover the rest, you know? And so that was the agreement.

(35:24):
But then you were living with usand we were like, well, fuck,
maybe we could all move in together.
Yeah. And it made sense because I was
like, fuck yeah, why not? Why not, you know?
So then as we kind of talked about it and I shared the idea
with you as well, then we started obviously, you know,
spending more time together. And then you started dealing

(35:46):
with some anxiety and some personal things that were coming
up for you. And then I, you know, I guess I,
I started to see a different side of you as well, you know,
because, because I was very big on like, you know, be careful
who you surround yourself with, Make you make sure whoever you

(36:06):
surround yourself with is inspiring you, positive they're
uplifting you, They're not bringing drama to your life.
You know, it's not creating stress.
It's not someone that you have to be dependent for.
Like you have to look after them.
They, they got their own back. They can look up themselves.
So when I started seeing you go through all this stuff that you
were dealing with, like immediately, it was like a, a, a

(36:29):
pushback from me. And I was like, fuck, do I
really want to live around this kind of stuff right now?
You know? And so it was really hard for me
to actually like, get out of my comfort zone and stand up and
speak up for myself and actuallytell you, hey, bro, I've decided
that I don't want you to move inwith us, you know?

(36:49):
And so I know that wasn't easy for me to do, but I also, how
was it for you to actually hear that and receive it?
And like, how did you process it?
Because I know from that moment on, like once I moved out, you
know, we stopped talking. Yeah, like if I'm honest, bro, I
kind of like was completely off you, eh?
Like straight up like I haven't told you this before, but I'm

(37:11):
not going to hold back, man. I'm not.
I'm not afraid anymore, you know?
Yeah, I, I thought in that moment, bro, I thought, how
could you do that, man? Like it's kind of like you like,
you know, it's like, you know, when you get in a relationship,
bro, and you like hear about like the, the start of the
relationship, like you tell themeverything you want to hear and
then you just go, oh, no, I don't want to do it anymore
because like, I don't know, man.I felt, I felt like, and, and by

(37:35):
the way, when I say felt like I felt doesn't mean it was real.
This is what I felt. I felt like a bit used.
I felt like, you know, you just feel like, oh, like, who is he?
Like, I felt like you thought that I was like, just less and
like, yeah, man, I, I don't know.
I was, I really struggled with understanding why you did that.
But because I was in the sport that I was in mentally at the

(37:59):
time, it took me like a good three or four months to like
understand it. And in that period, bro, like,
yeah, man, I was like, I was hurt, bro.
Like, you know, I because I know, with all due respect, bro,
I know that you used to look at me as that guy, like, oh, it's
Kobe, he's the DJ. Look at me.
So cool. And then I was like, you know,
you thought something of me and I gave you like my time, which I

(38:23):
wanted to do, bro, because I waslike, fuck, bro, you're mad.
Like you're Luke, bro, you look like a funny dude that you're
dancing around. And I was like, yeah, this is
cool. I want to go link up.
And then I I was just like, man,like, how could you do that to
me, bro? Like why would you even tell me?
Like don't tell me. And but then, you know, when I
took myself out of it and lookedat, you know, what actually

(38:44):
happened and everything you justsaid was true, like, bro, you
don't want that shit around you.And I understood.
And it's, yeah, it took me a long time to like, get over it,
man. Because like 3 months, I don't
know if that's a long time to whoever's listening, but that's
a long time for me because you can do a lot in three months.
And yeah, I just had to, like, understand it, bro.

(39:04):
And I had to know that like, hey, he's doing this because of,
you know, what I've brought to your life because I was leaving
you a few at the time. And you're not doing it because
you don't like me. You're doing it because you're
like, hey, you need to go fix your stuff.
And then by doing that is actually the best thing that
ever happened to me, bro, because I had like the best like

(39:26):
6 months of my life after that. A completely changed the Yeah.
Yeah, well, I mean, this is a thing like rejection has and I
didn't, it wasn't any something that I did intentionally, but
I've learnt myself that rejection, like, you know,
there's these quotes, you know, rejection is God's redirection,
you know, rejection is, is God'sprotection, you know, and it's

(39:52):
almost like, you know, when I made that decision, yeah, I'm
sure you would have felt rejected, you know, you would
have felt like I pushed you away.
Yeah, like hard. And, and so feeling that, you
know, when we've just made such a great connection, we've been
living together, all that kind of stuff, Yeah, 100%.
It would have been uncomfortableand hurtful, you know.

(40:12):
But I also knew that, you know, you were still growing, you
know, you still had some baggageand some stuff that you needed
to work through and go through. And I truly also knew that you
you'll get through it, you know,that, that you also had to like
freaking fend for yourself and like, you know, figure shit out
for yourself and that, you know,it wasn't just going to be
handed to you in an easy way, you know, and I think that's the

(40:36):
that's how we learn, you know, that's, that's how actually for
many of us, we need to be taught.
And sometimes, like, as much as rejection is uncomfortable, fuck
man, it's sometimes the best thing that can ever happen to
you. You know, because it does make
you grow. Can I interrupt bro?
Because like, you know, I've said what I've said then and you
know, I just told you that I waslike all few and stuff, but I

(40:58):
know that I thanked you recentlyfor it all.
But now we're here on camera, bro.
Thank you for that. Because like I know it came from
a place of love and I know that you did care about me, bro, and
I know that you're only one of the best for me.
So I'm very grateful for a man. And I think that it was the
hardest and best thing that happened to me because like,

(41:20):
man, like straight up dude, I felt fucking hurt, bro.
Like I was like, fuck, man. Like these two people, like I've
just become like brothers with them.
And now they're like, you know, they're both like so excited to
go to this big mansion and I'm just going back to my parents
because like, bro, I had nothingthere.
I had no money, you know? And I'm like, I'm like fuck,
man. Like I'm really hurt.

(41:41):
I was like crying bro in the car.
And I was like, fuck, like, thisis hectic, man.
But you know, if you didn't do that, bro, like I wouldn't have
learnt that I can, you know, live this thing called life on
my own. Because, you know, I had to pay
rent, bro. I had to pay like, you know, 600
bucks a week. And I had to, you know, cook
dinner for myself every night. And I had to like, you know,

(42:04):
make sure that like everything was not like sorted at the home.
And you know, that period after I was with you, bro, like, I
literally had the best six months of, like, content of my
life, black bro, my whole socialmedia blew up.
Like, I was like, whatever you call like, big or whatever
before I met you. After that, man, I use that as

(42:24):
fuel. I was like, fuck.
All right. Well, if he doesn't think I'm
good enough, like, maybe I'm not.
Maybe I'm not good enough to be around him, you know?
And I'll take that. But what can I do now to better
my life and better myself? And I did that, bro.
I fucking did that, man. And yeah, I'm just super
grateful for it. And you are a tough character,
bro. Like with me, like today, like I

(42:45):
told you, hey bro, I want to reschedule this.
And you said fuck off, have a nap, I'll see you later.
And I'm like, fuck, bro. I'm like fuck bro, I'll see you
later bro. Yeah, sometimes we need that
push, you know, because. Nah, you're like that with

(43:06):
Daniel and I, bro. I'm not saying that you're like
a dad, but like you kind of like, if you look at it for what
it is, it's the, it's the. Easy.
I know, I know. You're like a father to like
you, him and I because like we're we're both like a bit
special, bro, like we're all special in our own way, but like
you just like you like you really help us, bro.
Like I know it's funny, like I know it's bro.
I know it's funny, but like, youknow, you know, I look at you as

(43:29):
that, like. Type no, I get it man.
I I don't. Know I don't know how you are
with compliments bro, but you know me bro I speak from the
heart and. No, I receive it, man.
I appreciate, I appreciate your words.
I'm grateful, you know, I'm grateful that we reconnected,
but I also want the everyone who's listening right now what,
what what I had to do in terms of this situation, me and Kobe

(43:52):
was basically what I was being an example of and being a leader
of is protect your energy, you know, because at the time when I
was building my coaching business and like, I had to like
be really conscious of like, OK,is this going to be good for my
business? You know, is this going to be
good for me? And I know that you can say,
well, at the expense of Kobe's fucking mental health, at the

(44:13):
expense of Kobe fucking crying and being upset and, and, you
know, being unhappy. I'm like, yeah, but I'm putting
myself 1st. And I had to, you know, like I
had to, to get me here. So, and this is the thing, this
is the challenging part for mostpeople.
We're not able to set those boundaries because we, it's
almost like we care more about other people's feelings than we

(44:35):
do about ourselves. And it's like, well, who's more
important in your life, you or that other person?
Like who's going to pay your bills?
That's kind of like what I had to do.
So, you know, it, it can seem kind of hard and stuff like
that, but you know, man, you know it it, it did help you
grow. And I know that that kind of

(44:57):
like attitude that I had, you know, it was part of my process
and I had to, I had to do it, you know.
Yeah, good on you, bro. And I was, everyone's probably,
everyone's probably feeling sorry for me.
Like, well, how could you do that to poor Kobe?
But bro, good on you. No, I know I.
Know on you, bro, like, bro, after that I was like, you know,

(45:17):
there was, there was times and yeah, last year I had to slip up
and not, you know, I didn't do what you did in that time, that
moment with me. But you know, there's been
moments throughout like my life since then where I'm like, no,
fuck you. Like, with all due respect.
And I'm like, no, I got to do what I got to do because like
throughout my whole life, I put,I put you first, I put the dog
first. I put fucking anyone else but me

(45:38):
first. And in that process, I really
lost myself, bro. So that like inspired me.
And man, I hope that anyone listening like I forget we're on
a podcast, say, I hope that anyone listening, you know, is
inspired by that. And don't worry about me.
I'm all good. I'm a big, I'm a big guy.
Yeah, I might be like upset in the moment or whatever, but I'm

(46:00):
OK. And I was OK bro.
And I, I needed to believe that.And that's what that's what got
me through that is, is knowing that I'm OK and I've got my own
back. Well, now, bro, like, look at
that. Yeah, you got your own back for
sure, bro. But but look at that experience,
man. And look at how far you've come
and like, look who you are now. Like literally, these are the
kind of moments that you go fuck, you know what?

(46:20):
Like because I've been through that shit.
I know I was going through some hardship before, but I went
through that as well. Like you.
I'm just living proof that like I can get through anything.
Yeah, but yeah, 100%, man, I'm like, I'm proud of that about
myself. Like, you know, no matter what
happens, like, man, I just keep going.
Just keep going, bro. Just keep chipping away every
day and whether it's a lot, yeah, that's.

(46:42):
It that's it that's it so your DJ career, is there anything
happening there bro? Like are you planning on making
a big comeback on getting into afull time or I'm.
Laughing because Danilo me and Danilo been talking, No, me and
Danilo been talking about catching up.
You know, is is there like, are you going to like take over the

(47:04):
music industry and the music scene so that you can take over
Danilo? Because he seems to be like
doing some big things. Look, bro, there's like, I know
everyone says it's like cliche statement.
There's a lot going on in the background.
There actually is with music. Like I'm working on a song right
now that involves me. Oh, actually, no, I'm keeping
that to myself. But yeah, like, look, bro,
there's potential. But I, I right now, bro, I'm

(47:27):
figuring out who I am and I'm going through that transition of
like the label guy versus like me just being myself.
And, you know, I've still got a lot of work to do on me and my
health. Like, dude, I had a lot of
health scares last year. I haven't spoken to you about
it, but some stuff went down. So I'm just putting my health
first. I'm putting my mental health

(47:48):
first and I'm doing my content and showing the world who I am.
Long story short, because I've gone on a bit of a roundabout.
There's potential, man. Yeah, there's potential for sure
with the music. I'm I'm excited and it's your
and your Instagram is still KobeWatts music.
Yeah, it's still Kobe Watts music, but the only reason it is

(48:10):
is because I can't change it, bro, because because I got
verified before you could buy it, man.
It won't let me change it. Hey, so.
Well, what do you want to changeit?
To DJ Demilo, No, I don't know, Kobe Watts, like just Kobe
Watts. Not music.
He's like. OK, you can't delete music off

(48:32):
it. No, I've tried man so many times
and it's like because you're a verified user, you can't change
this. So yeah.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it is. I thought you could just change
it. But but hey, man, thanks for
coming on the podcast today. I trust that, you know, we had,
we had a good conversation. I trust that anyone who's
listening right now also has really been inspired.

(48:53):
And you know what, like, as you were speaking, bro, I was like,
whoever's listening to this is going to be like, Oh my
goodness, this has been the bestpodcast I've ever listened to.
Like the most authentic, you know, the most real, like, like
real life stories, like real shit.
You know, because, yeah, I mean,I don't think people are as
vulnerable as they should be, you know, on, on podcasts.

(49:14):
I think it's a lot, lots of people cover shit up, you know,
and especially because we've gotsuch a personal, personal
relationship. We've lived together.
I think this podcast has been amazing, man, And I hope that if
you're listening right now that you'll share this with your
friends, because I'm sure that there's definitely lots of
people that will relate to this and will benefit from listening
to this. And, and we really also hope

(49:35):
that it inspires you to not giveup on yourself and to and to
believe, believe in yourself andand know that you're enough just
the way you are, you know, So Kobe, thanks so much for coming
on. But, you know, just finally, you
know, if there's people out there that are listening, which
there is, you know, what are some things that you want to
leave us with? Yeah, well, first of all, I'll

(49:57):
say that I can't fake it When I speak.
I speak from the heart. And when I speak, a lot of
emotions and like feelings come up, like my body will tingle a
lot. If you're watching this via
video, you might notice that it seems like I'm very overwhelmed.
I may be very overwhelmed in moments throughout the podcast,
but it's because everything I speak about comes from my heart.

(50:19):
I struggle to, you know, be someone I'm not.
And I guess like to leave everyone on a positive note,
just like know that it can get better no matter what you're
going through. I know that's cliche to hear,
but it's true. Always be yourself.
And no matter what you've been labelled or told you can and
can't do like you can do whatever you want to do in life

(50:41):
because I'm living proof that, yeah, I'm dyslexic and all these
names or whatever. But I'm here today and I have
the life I have and I'm able to do whatever I want basically
whenever I want in the most humble way.
And I didn't get that through, you know, listening to people
who told me I couldn't be someone.
So, yeah, just keep going. And I know it's fucking hard

(51:04):
because it is. It really can be at times.
But yeah, you got to remember how fucking strong you are.
A you have to, you have to do that.
And I, I know that whoever is listening, you are.
Yeah, very strong in the mind. Don't forget that.
So yeah, thanks for having me, bro.
It's been a powerful conversation and.
Congratulations, Kobe Watts, ladies and gentlemen.

(51:24):
Thank you, Kobe. Love you, bro.
Thanks for jumping on man. And we'll stay in touch.
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