January 29, 2025 • 57 mins
Sommer, Schuyler and Jamie talk about Season 18 Episode 12 of Married At First Sight with special guest Chris Svehla
Chris- @chrissvehla.Bsky.social
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Chris- @chrissvehla.Bsky.social
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to Man and Finally Single.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Jamie Blair, I'm Summer Austin, and I'm Skyler Fastino Jones.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And this is a meredivers I fan podcast where we
invite a guest on who's never watched an episode. Hey, everybody,
welcome to another episode of Man Finally Single. We have guests.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Guest, We have a very special guest today. He is
a dear friend of mine, one of my best friends.
He spoke at my wedding, he was in my wedding party.
And even though his Instagram and his face may say
that he doesn't want to be here, he's very excited,
Ladies and gentlemen. The co owner and co founder of
(00:50):
Doomling's board game, available at Target, Amazon, or wherever else
you get your board games.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Chris Vayla, Hi, Hi, I am so excited to be
here with you guys and to talk about this show
which I have never seen. Excited to get into it.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Fantastic, Well, Chris, I mean, Skyler pretty much covered it.
But is there anything you would like to add telling
us about yourself?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I don't know, I don't I don't think so. I
mean that that pretty much covers it, well, do.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
You watch reality TV? Are you a reality TV guy?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
No? No, I don't watch reality TV. Usually if I
if I watch it, it's because I got a friend
who works on a reality TV show and they'll be like,
will you just watch it? And I'll be like okay.
But other than that, it's really just kind of premium
you know, sort of traumas and comedies and stuff. So
this is this is new Ish territory for me.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Great, well, thank you for you know, it's a long episode.
These episodes are long, so thanks for.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
They are long? What the heck?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah? I did like two loads of laundry and I
was like, it's going okay.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I've started doing this thing where I like, will watch
it while doing other things instead of I used to
just sit down and like concentrate.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
But it's so long. Now it's like watching a feature film.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Like like is this are there like in the Space
or other shows this long? Is this unusual?
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I feel like it's unusual, But I don't know what
do you guys do well?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I mean in terms of the length of the show
itself and then the series. I think it's unprecedented how
long like each season is because wect.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Like after Party on at the end.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Now if you're watching on a Lifetime so you see that,
And that's another like twenty five to forty minutes that
they just put on there, but also very exciting, like I.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Love I love that show.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, actually this this time after Party recorded. I don't
know why.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Oh you got to see it.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Oh I got to see Yeah, I got to see
after Party this time.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I watched it on the app and was able to
see it. And the question that I have is when
do they record these things? Because our people just pretending
like they don't know what happens the rest of the season, and.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
We don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
That's a great question, Chris.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
We've been trying to figure it out for like three
seasons of this podcast or four season.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
However long we've been doing this. How when do they
actually record it?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
We think that it's significantly after, like this episode has air.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
It may even be after.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I mean not at after the episode is aired, but
definitely after it's been edited and the just been so
it could either be like several months or weeks after
they've recorded it, or it could be like after the.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Whole thing is over.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Who said they thought they had an answer for that
was that you Skyler or did you say he thought
they waited until after.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
It was all over.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
That's my assumption. I feel like it's like everything's been
done and then they're like, like story producers probably like
as a reminder that this hasn't happened yet, so don't
talk about the cheating scandal that probably is happening this season.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, I think it's got to be because I mean
when you look at how different people look afterwards, like
not to you know, talk about their bodies or anything,
but like Michelle was on it and she has lost
a lot of weight, and it's like if that, I mean,
I've been on GLP ones before. If that's I'm not
saying cheeses, but they can it can be pretty fast,
(04:29):
but it can't be like I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's like those things are so it's like these sometimes
people look so drastically different that you're like, there's a
lot of time that's elapsed here.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
So yeah, yeah, well you know, I'm a married man,
so I don't notice when women's bodies change. What I
noticed was once beard was gone was gone.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yes, yeah, and I didn't notice that being not.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Exact, it's weird and you probably notice that I shaved
off my beer.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
No I didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well, no, I didn't for whatever reason. Beer.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Girls, men and women are so different, aren't they.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Oh my god, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Okay, let's start. Let's start talking about the the couples.
So let's start with Camille and Thomas.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Mail and Thomas. I'm trying to pull up my notes.
Here was the boring stray ones. Okay, sweet, sweet? So
they were so boring, weren't they? Oh my god? That
that that was my first thought, like when they were
when they were sitting there with the family and and uh,
I don't know, the thought like it all just felt
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like like everyone was speaking in flatitudes, and like you know,
Camille was just like kind of smiling, and I'm like,
this is this is so, this is so uninteresting. What
what did she mean when she said that she was
back with a new husband? Is she is she? I'm
assuming she's recently divorced.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
No, So I think she because I I think it
was kind of like almost like a joke with her family,
because she's like, all right, I'm here with my husband
that half of you haven't actually met yet, Because like
I think only her dad was at the wedding. No,
she's like, here I am, this is my husband, Come
and meet him. So she's yeah, I don't think she's
(06:33):
ever been married. She's had tough relationships.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Okay, oh oh okay. So there was one thing the
mom said, or the grandmother, I think it is a grandmother.
She said when she was she was social. When she
was a baby, she always wanted to be held. I
was like, that's that's not a spoiled baby, that's just babies.
What are you what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Baby?
Speaker 4 (06:59):
So firsty all, this this this, this baby has a
unique thirst for milk, Like, what is going on with
this baby?
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Well?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I love how she was like she would just point
at things she wanted, and it's like as opposed to
be like hello, grandmother, may you please hand me my
bottle milk? Thank you very much?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Why why why was this baby not the the sister
from from Dune who could who could talk when she
was like when she was like a little bit. Yeah,
so so bizarre. They I'm trying to think back now
because I didn't really have a lot of notes about them.
They didn't really show them a lot this episode. It
(07:43):
was just oh, that's not.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Just this episode. Yeah, my theory.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Oh I did like you know the them Oh yeah,
the drunk mom obsessed with I was like, I want
to party with his mom, his bio mom.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, I need a spin off with her. I love
how she's like I forgot my friends and she was
talking about the shot glass. She's like, I got multiple
little shot Well, she was just getting sloppier and sloppier
throughout that visit and I loved it.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Okay, I will say I thought the biological mom stuff
was was pretty nice. Yeah, Like it was that And
that's one thing. I don't know if we're gonna have
like like overall thoughts on the show, and so maybe
I'll maybe I'll save that for later. But yeah, I
thought that was a nice I don't know, I got
(08:41):
a little emotional during during that stuff.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Well, it's always sad to see someone have to give
up their children. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
They showed what it's like to have to experience something
like that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, And I mean it was probably even harder for
her because she also had twins. So what's his It
doesn't matter he has a twin brother. Yeah and yeah, yeah,
so I mean that's like I did like the storyline.
I was obsessed with her. I was obsessed with Kimill's grandmother. Yeah,
(09:19):
but I mean again, it just goes back to my
theory that it's like this is the only couple that's
going to make it because like their storyline is just
so boring, because it's just so like normal. Like there
was an episode a few weeks ago that I was like, oh,
I just fully didn't take any notes on them. I
didn't even write their names down.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
How Like I didn't write any notes about them this time.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah, So, so they get married and what they've got
thirty days or what's what's the timeline?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
We will talk We will talk about that at the
end of the episode. I will give a whole rundown
of how of how the show works.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's literally what he was asking at the beginning, and
we didn't tell him that, and.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Now you're talking him in the middle of the podcast.
He literally asked like.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I know, right, and they were like, shut up, let's
never what's never happened. Nobody's ever asked about this.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Because he's so so with it, all right, I know
I don't I don't mean to like shut him down,
but I just.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
A tight headlight.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Okay, I just, I just I had one one thing
I wanted to say, because I believe that they traveled
far south of Chicago, because I started seeing cows and
I'm like, oh, you're not in the South suburbs, because
that's where I thought they were going. But I think
(10:48):
they're I think they're close to Champagne, because she would
because if you saw her jersey, it was Urbana she
and so I think she's somewhere. I think they traveled
kind of far soud. I mean, it couldn't even be
a Kankakee or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
But that's where you're from, Jamie. What outside outside of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Outside of Chicago where I'm from, I'm even further south
in Champagne, even further south. Yeah, yeah, I'm yeah. Yeah.
It's three about three and a half hours from You're
real down there, yeah, whereas Champagne's two hours from Chicago.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
I can't say I've ever been to Champagne.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But that's all I want to say. Okay, anything and
Thomas Gods Okay, all right, amm Andy KG.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, this is yeah, this is a sad couple to watch.
I think that At first, I was like, so, I think,
like I think like ninety ninety five percent. I mean,
at least from what I saw in this episode, like
it seems like the problems are just stemming from uh okay,
(12:00):
is it is it a catchy that's the that's the man? Okay?
Uh yeah? He just yeah, but there there was there
was one thing later in the episode where I was like, oh,
like he is he is kind of right about that.
He was saying that he didn't want to talk about
(12:20):
something and she was like, no, we gotta and then
a few minutes later she was like, well, if you do,
if you don't want to talk about it, just say
you don't want to talk about it, and he's like
I did. So I was like that is one, but
everything but everything else, I'm like, yeah, this guy's just
kind of being again. It's it's it's strange because it
was what episode twelve, So I'm coming into this. I
(12:41):
don't know like what the like, what the background is
is with these with these characters, but like if if
she said something, if she's just been really messed up
toward him, like up to this point in the season,
or I don't know, but but from from what I saw,
he's just he's just kind of putting up walls and
(13:02):
being kind of a kind of prick.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Masculinity.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
He's a child, is what he is.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Absolutely nobody's perfect, but he is like I mean, you know,
his wife, like, yeah, of course, the miscommunication and you know,
I feel like that's just part of the course when
you're trying out a relationship. But he is really stonewalling
her and being awful. And I just also love how
he cannot give her a real apology. Did you see
(13:35):
that part?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Oh my gosh, he's a child.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, Like, I'm sorry if you feel that way. And
she's like, well, yeah, I just told you I felt
that if Yeah, I do love whenever people are able
to like pick apart.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I'm such a I'm so big on communication, like, like,
especially over the year, have just found that, like so
many issues like in relationships are just in business, can
just be resolved with people just more clearly communicating with
each other. It's amazing. I agree. And yeah, so when
(14:14):
she like picks apart stuff like that, No, no, I
told you that I felt this way, so you don't
need to say if you feel this way, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Well, Kach, I mean a lot of the shit he's doing,
I've done the same thing in my twenties. In my twenties,
he's a forty one year old man acting like a child,
and he's I hate him. He's pissing me off. I
don't m M is such a good catch, yes, And
(14:45):
I think that's his issue is she is she's too
good for him, and he feels threatened by her because
she's aggressive.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Obviously, And it's not because she's aggressive, it's because she
makes more money than he does.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Mmmm.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Which Speaking of aggression, I thought it was hilarious that
when they like got back to the apartment, he was like,
I think we need to take a step back and
just get to know each other and ask questions. And
I wrote down I was like, WHOA, don't get too aggressive,
okag because like he literally like whenever she asks him questions,
he's like, you're getting aggressive. You're trying to get to
know me, that's it. And I was like, okay, so
(15:23):
it's fine if you do it. Yeah, it was her.
It's aggression, guy telling you man too much.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I mean to be fair. When people ask me questions,
I put I put the put up the walls and
put up the defenses. Don't ask me questions, do they
so do all of the participants live in the same
type of apartment because that was one thing I noticed.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I think production puts the.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Production off, Yeah, gives them it's like.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
A temporary like move in situation where they so they
have their own homes, but they have this and they're
encouraged to.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Stay in the shared living place.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And then conveniently all the all the couples are in
the same apartment complex.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Oh interesting, Yeah, I did, because I did notice that,
like it seems like the they have relationships with each
other outside of the outside of the marriages, like, yeah,
they're all friends kind of. Yeah, And it's interesting that
they are living in these like kind of smaller apartments
because it does force them to be you know, closer
(16:33):
and see how yeah, just see what conflicts might arise.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
The reason that they're closed, just real quick, is because
the men and the women.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
All the men met each other beforehand, like during the
bachelor party, and the women met each other, so they
kind of got to know each other a little bit,
and then they didn't know the opposite you know, so
they they kind of formed that little.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Bond in the beginning, got it, Yes, So.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Then obviously go to like the gym and stuff together
and things like that, so which I think will maybe
prove to be a storyline later on.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
That's what I think.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I think it's tease.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yes, I just want to say when it was the
the Rico Bath Dog, I was.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Good for her for having this conversation while she's just
fully giving her dog a bath, because I think adopted
her baby. Let me tell you, doing anything while trying
to give a dog a bath impossible. Give it up.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Wait you we got to catch up.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
We got to catch up. We got to do it.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Okay, anything else about m.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yes, really quickly. I think she is officially because like
I clocked it with a couple people in this episode
where I was like, oh, this person and his like
knows that this marriage is done, but they're now just
here for the paycheck, because like they did end up
talking about it, but I clocked it before they talked
about it, where she's like, I think it just needs
(18:11):
to go and live on his own for a little bit,
blah blah blah, And the producer was like, wait, you
stopped calling him your husband because this entire she's like husband, husband, husband,
And I was like, oh, she doesn't like she doesn't
believe in this anymore, but she's gonna collect that fucking paycheck,
and good for her.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yep, I don't blame her, okay, anything else about? All right, Well,
let's go to David and Michelle.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
The namesake for the episode. Oh, I just want to
eat you up.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I mean talking about the food that I'm eating right there.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
So there's so much, there's so much ick. It's just
so much. First of all, First of all, again not
knowing the context, and I think they said that they
had like just just got done spending the day together.
But uh, number one, I mean, seems easy to me
that he could just say like, oh, that message was
(19:18):
for you, like you didn't like it? I thought I
thought you'd find it very sexy. Like what okay, no, mass.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Right, what a dumb ass, god, terrible lie he came
up with.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
So bad, awful cousin Denise, Oh, I want to know
what that food was? I mean, he can't. He was,
he was like, he was like, he was like, I
don't know, it's like dumplings.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
My god, do.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Not remember you said a text that basically say you
want to fuck this food and you don't remember what
it looked like.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Now it's just like vaguely, it was like, I don't know.
In David's defense, didn't he tried Tosh for the first
time on their honeymoon. Yes, so it's possible that he
doesn't with the.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Oh true, true, Yeah, no way, that was such a lie.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I just it's so fun to watch men just lie. God,
it's the best.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I mean the scramble, the scramble in the car. Oh yeah,
I was texting my cousin and yeah, I just I
saw the food and wow, I just I wanted to
eat it up.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I'm not looking at a plate. I'm not looking at
a color of plate. Is it white?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Is black?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Wasn't hair?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Is her hair?
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Is her hair up? Is it down?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
What you wear?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
And I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I want to fuck the food.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Also shout out to Detective Michelle where she's like, you
texted Madison than Alan to go hang out with them,
so you would have got to have texted somebody besides me,
and that like twelve hour period. I was like, yes, Like, so, can.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
I see the photo of the phone.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I don't want to get it. He's like, I can't, I.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Can't be Oh no, there's no nothing. Oh my God.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
But another easy, another easy recovery as a snapchat disappeared.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
You see, I'm on the gentlemen. If you need to
cheat on your spouse or significant other, call up Chris Baila,
He'll get you covered.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Right, I mean, at least we know he's definitely not
an actor, right, God right, he.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Is a real stupid guy.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I just told that bold ass life right before going
to dinner to a family reunion with cousin Denise.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Are you shitting me?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That could have turned out so bad if Michelle didn't
have class.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I don't think I even realized that she was there
because the Denise was there.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Yes it was.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I thought there was Michelle's family that they were with.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
It was said that she in the after party she
said she.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Met his family like later on, and cousin Denise was
there there and she decided not to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Right, didn't she say that on the opfectity.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Wasn't on camera. They when they went to visit his family,
it wasn't on camera, So we didn't see any of that.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Right, but they did.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
He did tell the lie right before the family reunion, right,
because she could have had the opportunity to say right
then and there in front of the whole family. Hey, guys,
this is so weird. I got this text yesterday. Apparently
it was about her food, Denise yesterday. She could have
destroyed that family event and she didn't.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, Orty told her to save it for the cameras well.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
So so first, yeah, talk about the family aspect of it,
because number one, I think if it was something where
it was like his side of you know, the family,
and he was going to bring up the text message
or she was going to bring up the text message,
I think that would have made a lot of sense
to just like publicly destroy him. But like, because they're
(23:17):
going to see her family, at least I understand they're
going to go see her family. She's she's got this
line where she's where she's like, I've decided not to
bring up the text with my family, and like just
as I'm like, yeah, of course, of course you're not
going to bring up this text with your family. That's
so weird.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
And did you imagine, guys, I think my husband meant
to sex someone else. Anyway, let's have.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Everything.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Well, something happened today that I would like to tell
you about fam.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
That is not. It is not. I'm just I've been
married for ten years, okay, And it doesn't matter whose
side of the family we're having a gathering with. No
one is turning to us and being like, so, what's
going on in your marriage? Like maybe it's just a
(24:16):
like a thing with this show or a reality TV thing,
but that really that that just really stood out to me.
I like the one one stuff makes total sense, Like
of course I'm gonna like talk about my marriage with
with Skyler Frog get in drinks or I'm gonna, you know,
just you know, if I'm washing my dog with a friend.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
But I don't know, I don't know. It's I mean,
it's definitely like producers in their ears, like Okay, this
is like the reason that they're coming over. We're gonna
talk about your marriage. And then like but none of
them are trained professionals, so they're like, wow, this barbecue
is delicious. Anyway, how's your man marriage? And it's like, great,
(25:01):
we got we got where we needed to go. Good job.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, I love how the friend or sister I think
it was a friend said that about Michelle at the
family reunion that if you earn her love, you will
never lose it, and I was like, well, that opportunity
is no.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Just as long as you don't sex with anyone, you
she is yours until the day you die.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
God, oh my god, and go out on like three
Tinder dates during your marriage.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
God, why do you incredible.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
They weren't dates. He's just still friends with them.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Still going and getting talk with them and not telling
his wife that's cool.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Yeah, he's like I said the other one the other.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Day, like what biz to admit to that stuff, but
still but still insists because he's just trapped in the
lie at this point, like yeah, but still insists that
that message was meant for his cousin did.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
It just goes to show how scared of his wife
he actually is, because he couldn't even under like, you know,
all the pressure in the world just say it was
for you, Like he just couldn't utter those words it
was for you.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah. Well, like you said, he's obviously not an actor,
because that's what I would have done, and I would
have acted really embarrassed, like I'm so sorry. I had
a couple of drinks.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah, yeah, I thought you were going to be really
into that.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Oh jeez. Yeah, I mean, you know, just now Devil's
advocate here, I will say, we know that David is
not the most well spoken man. Summer. You clocked this
in every episode, like the weird things that he says
but he thinks are phrases but they're not. So I
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was thinking about it and I was like, this could
have in fact been for his cousin because he says
weird shit, so knowing that, but I mean, but then
I guess you get the whole thing where it's like
I don't have the phone and I don't know what
the food was. So if there wasn't for that, I
could see him texting something weird like oh, I just
want to eat you up about food because he's like no,
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like that's.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
But you know what he's such he's such a liar,
Like it's such a it's he's such a.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Liar, Like listen, I think I think the text was
meant for Madison. Yeah, or that's what I think.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I think his finger slipped and it was. And she
also kind of alluded to it because she on the
car ride she was like, are you sure it wasn't
meant for Madison? And I was like, oh, so she knows.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
And names he says his phone is cracked stupid.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I mean, sorry, guys, I'm saying that top three men.
But like you by my husband, he did the same ship.
He sent something to the woman he was fucking it
was supposed to be meant for me, and I was like,
oh my, like who does that?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Like why aren't you paying attention? But s names as well?
We both had s names and.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I think them name S name like I think yeah,
And I was like, I did the same thing. I
was like, I think you meant to send this to
somebody out like I I texted right back.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
I was like, what is this?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Oh my goodness, Summer, David.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Sorry, my internet's unstable.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Were dating David Summer. She heard it.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
I heard it.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Are you the sexty?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
It was, oh my goodness, Summer. She's like, I can't
talk about the show.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I just love how men can't like get women's names
with the different names of the same first letter, like,
tell them apart?
Speaker 5 (29:02):
What is it a treatment? I don't understand that.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
It's it's uh, I think, Shannon, it's just really hard
to keep track of all all.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
These I wonder my my question is does Madison know
that was meant for her? Like, I mean, I know
that I don't know when they're but she told that,
she said the text in front of all of them,
in front of all those girls, and I was looking
at Madison to be like, are you gonna yeah? I mean,
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obviously she didn't get it. He didn't like resend it
to her, hopefully not, but he didn't like, oh, what
was meant for wrong person? But I wonder if she
was like, that was clearly meant for me? How could
you not know that?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
She's like, oh what, that's yeah, right you? And then
she's just like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Unless he's never flirted with her and that was like
his first attempt, and then if so really.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Bad attempt, I don't think it is. Yeah, they work out,
they work out together, so that's probably not the first time.
And I and the other reason why I think that
it's that it's Madison and David that end up. You know,
the infidelity was because doctor Pia says, infidelity between two
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couples is unprecedented, and I'm like, okay, so it's not
somebody outside of this bubble in fidelity between two couples
is unprecedented. It's like okay. And then because you know,
because We've seen previews. We've seen previews of Allen being
you know, crying in mm's arms, kicking the thing and everything.
(30:50):
So I think that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I'm still holding out for the David and Wancho couple.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Maybe it was meant for one. Maybe it was and
he didn't want to say no.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
That is something that's specific from this season. And it's
a gay couple.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Oh, it's missing from the series. Don't worry.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Oh, it's missing from the series. Have they never done it?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Not in America? And this they do on the box
that I will go on.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Eighteen wait, eighteen seasons, they haven't had one gay couple.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Nope, not in the US. The UK and Australian versions
both have gay couples, they match gay couples, but not
the US version.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
So wow, is when they come back to Los Angeles,
Jonesy and I are going to pretend to be single
and then we're going to get matched up together because
we're just going to get that extra match. Oh my god,
he's literally my dream meant will be the Camilla and
Thomas of the season. Everybody's gonna be like, they're so boring.
I'm gonna be like, because we're already married and it'll be.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Great, but you could start ship with the other couples, so.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I'll be like, oh, like you
should totally tell emn that, like you know, she's an asshole.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Okay, are we done with with David and Michelle.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I'm gonna oh my grapes from now on.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
I just I just want to quickly, I just want
to eat you up, is just and and then we
can move on. It's just such a strange. It's just
such a it's it's not.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Like you you basically just made the sound of it.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, it's so anyway, I just want to get that
out there, so so weird.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Cool, all right, let's move on. Madison and Allen.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Right, Yeah, I thought they had a really sweet conversation.
I loved how they both kind of opened up to
each other. And I think one of the things that
kind of like stood out to me, again as someone
who's coming in doesn't have the context, is like, like,
of all the of all the people that I'm watching,
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it feels like these two are like like having a breakthrough.
And then there will be moments like Madison saying like
I feel closer to you. I don't know if the
romantic part is there yet, And I'm like, damn, okay,
that's messed up. What has gone on? Like, of all
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the people, I think, like I could go, I don't.
I don't feel like I need additional But but for
these guys, I think, just because it seemed to me
like they had such like like good, like tender, vulnerable moments,
I'm like, what has gone on between these two that
they're not like that they're not clicking because this I
(33:46):
don't know, just like her opening up about like softball
and her her past and then you know, him opening
up about like his dad and fishing, like I don't.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Know, unfortunately attracted to him.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah, put into him? And like she said it multiple
times because like in past episodes, he's been like, you know,
would you be proud to like walk down the street
with me? And she's like no, oh, and she's oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
If there's a flirtation going on with David though, it
makes sense because if you're like actively physically attracted to
someone you've just met your husband and there isn't anything there,
if there's something with somebody else, that's never going to
develop with the one that You're right.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I would Yeah, She's like, I would much rather be
seen walking down the street with a dipshit honestly, Oh
my goodness.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Well yeah, because when he was talking about like his
he's like, oh, this serious relationship that I had when
I was nineteen. She ended up texting me that she
had cheated on me with fifteen different guys, and Madison
was like, YAI like the east enthusiastic, and I was like,
because you are doing the same thing. David clocked it.
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She's like, oh god, I hope he doesn't find out
that it's happening again.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Fifteen. Well, I mean, you know, at least it wasn't
like sixteen or seventeen.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, God, your.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Life isn't that is so traumatizing fifteen different.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Guys, right, yeah, now, to be fair, And he also
said that it was a long distance oh, like I
don't know if that means like, oh, she was like
a town over or like a state over, because I'm like, yeah,
in my head, like there was a guy that I
quote unquote dated in college who was very like, you know,
(35:40):
a good hour away, Like, yeah, of course he cheated
on me because it wasn't but.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Still different guys, That's all I mean.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I'm also so for me, I was like.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I thought he was dating a prostitute. Maybe he was
just dating a prostitute. Didn't know it because he I
mean maybe, I don't know. Fifteen, It depends on how
big is the town that she lives in, you know,
if it's a you know, small, smaller sized town. Fifteen guys,
(36:14):
is you know.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Cheated?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
And what does she mean when she said she cheated?
Did you mean cancer? Did you mean fucked her?
Speaker 4 (36:22):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Like emotional affairs or what have you too?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Right, Yeah, I can tell you that this. I got
emotional listening to them talk about Well. First, I got
emotional when they were when they were tossing the softball
because it just and having conversations and it just I
don't know, it took me back to my childhood and
my mom and I playing pitch and catch and we
(36:49):
were probably we probably had conversation like that, but because
I was a kid, I wasn't present enough to remember
the conversations that we had. So I got emotional about that.
And then I got emotional when he was talking about
his his sister and how when he talked to her
(37:10):
right before he got married, and he hadn't heard her
voice in eighteen years, you know, because he thought that
he thought that he had robbed her of her childhood
because of his parents. And I'm like, dude, that's not
your fault.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
I know, look married at first, I's bringing healing to families. Yeah,
before the destroy relationships.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
But it did get me emotional, I know. And and
the going and because they were fishing, because that was
something else my mom and I did. We used to
go fishing all the time as a kid.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
It's so cute. And then it was so sweet.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
And then Alan ruined it when he said, hey, it's
really fun throwing the old ball a twine around.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Maybe I don't want to be seen on the street
with you.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Oh no, I love Al is very funny.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
He's a sweet guy.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, you know, he is funny, and he seems to
be considering the traumatic childhood he's had, actually both of them.
I mean, because from what sounds like, Madison's mom is
not not mom material, and so she was reading by
her grandmother who was killed in an almobile accident that
(38:27):
almost killed her grandfather and her brother. I mean, that's
got to be traumatic.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
I mean man, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Mean I wouldn't want to walk down the street with
somebody who had that much trauma personally. What I don't
like that's called listen, this is my thing. I think
she's I don't. I don't like her because like my
(38:56):
the thing that I picked up on when they were
tossing the softball back and forth, because she's like when
I was in middle school, the girls were like just
really clicky and they bullied me on how I looked,
and it like just really made me feel bad. And
I was like, oh, is that why you shit talk?
How your husband looks trauma? Oh, I wonder if bad
(39:16):
when you tell him that you had a hard middle
school life. Who didn't toss that softball?
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Meanwhile, like Alan was basically in the in the plot
of Kramer versus Kramer.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I mean, for God's.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Sake, Yeah, yeah, anybody else clock that he knows that
this relationship's over because he when they were talking about
like her mom, He's like, well, one day when you're
with your kids.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Hours he never said us, he said you with your kids,
And I was like, he knows it's done.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Well, I think to play a devil Labrica, I would
I would say that. There's also a there's also a
way that you could think about that, which is like
he's he's not like pushing pushing that on her. I
guess like if it's me, like obviously that would be great.
(40:18):
If it's someone else, that's that's kind of like the
type of guy that I kind of clock him for
based on what I learned about him in this episode,
not not that he's like giving up, just that he's like, Hey,
you're gonna be You're gonna be a great You're gonna
be a great mom. I don't know who the kids
are gonna be with, hop with me, but yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Putting the old ball, it's wine in her court.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
That's so good.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Okay, anything else about Madson and Allen No, okay? Uh,
Carla and janch.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Man And when this, uh, when this sequence first started,
my first thought was, so, I mean when the show
first started, I was and and we'll talk about this
at the end, I guess, but when this first show started,
I was very much in the mindset of, like, you know,
just just coming from you know, comedy background and stuff
(41:19):
like that and just not watching a lot of reality TV.
I come from the mindset of like, how can I
make fun of like what I'm what I'm watching. And
so when he first says like, I'm gonna write, you know,
a letter to my six month old self, I'm like why,
(41:40):
Like why you idiot?
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I did?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, I was like, what the hell do you remember
that happened to you when you were six months old?
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Well, all of us are fool you are, and then
they so it went on and I'm like, oh my god,
First of all, I'm an asshole. The second of all,
this guy's had a rough go of it. H yeah,
oh boy. His parents leaving like it sounds like at
least twice in his childhood for long stretches of time
(42:19):
sounds brutal. I mean I would get my mom used
to used to, you know, take business trips. I remember
how like traumatizing even that was. I still can remember,
like her headlights leaving as I was left in my
grandmother's house and like I can't imagine, like what what
kind of you know, imprint that left on him?
Speaker 5 (42:42):
Yeah, for like eight months was the longest one. Right,
that's a long time. I know. I just oh my gosh,
I like love him now.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
I love both of them like I've I've always loved Carla,
but like, wow.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, Carla has become like the realest person to me
throughout this series. Like when she did her letter, which
like compared to his, was just so I was like, oh,
I was like that's cute, and I was like, oh, fuck,
what if he read his?
Speaker 2 (43:15):
He won a category hands down all the episodes I've
ever seen, that was the best letter writing sigment I've
ever seen.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah, but I love how she was like, yeah, I
just decided to be myself and I started just skipping
down the street and talking to random people on the
street to like get to know them. And I was like, honestly,
I never thought I would say it, but we should
like Carla.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
We all should be more like Carla.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Just the thought of like, you know what, I'm just
going to be myself and I don't give a fuck
and like just thinking about, like, you know what, I
want to just skip down the street because I just
want to, like I don't know what a freeing feeling.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
And I love that for her.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
We should all be more like one because he said
he said I choose happiness and fun, you know, because
like every day is a blessing. And I was just like, oh,
my God, like that is awesome. He's like he's like,
because every day is a blessing.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
I'm like, yes, one.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Also, he doesn't try away from his feelings too, which
I really love, and I was just like, God, that
is so inspiring.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
By the time I got to the after party, and
I think he was talking about the letters again and
he was getting emotional. I was it's funny. During the letters,
I was like, this makes sense because like I've like,
I wrote a whole thing for my grandmother's funeral, which
I chickened out of I didn't read it, and reading
(44:50):
it to my mom later like I couldn't get through it,
and so I could I can relate to that. But
then I think by the time I got to the
after party, I think the yeah, like the toxic part
of myself came back because I was like, this guy
can't get through anything.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
He did have a very funny moment though, on the
after party, because he's really good friends with David and
when they talked about the text, he was.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Like, oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
My, He's like that's my boy, and he was like,
I gotta admit that was hard to watch.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
It was hard to watch. Yeah, Yeah, it was hard
to watch. Oh yeah, I thought I thought Carl was
kind of like stone cold, like just stone faced while
he was going through all that stuff with the letters.
I don't know, it's just kind of just kind of
funny to watch her just like.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
Holding space Chris.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, she's a duck, I'll give her that, but I
think that's just.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
How she does.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Like if it was me, I would also be like,
oh fuck, Like I wrote just something like that, and then.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
I wrote roses and violets are blue, and this guy
poured his heart out.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
The red violet blue. I skipped down the street. Why
don't you one, don't worry it. Life's hard at six
months because the housekeeper tried to steal you. But one
day and I was like, I was Carla like wapping
(46:27):
up my letter and just throwing it to the ground
and being like you then, oh my god, that was wild.
I need that whole backstory though. I was like, I
was like a special episode of that.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
I was like, I did I did make a note
of this. While she was stone stone faced, she was
engaged because she did not touch her macha. That macha
was was un drank. By the end of that segment,
she did.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Poof out her lips a little bit, so, so yeah,
she was engaged definitely.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
For me, I feel like I'm such a people pooser
that I would be like, oh and like try to go.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
But I kind of appreciate that she just let him
have a space, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
She tried to.
Speaker 5 (47:19):
Run after him or soothe him. She just let him.
And that's the thing. She let him have his feelings.
She let him get through the difficult part.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
She let it.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
She didn't like, you know, try to make it away.
She just like let it play out.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
And like I think it's I don't think I wanted
her to like reach out and rub his leg or
like anything like that.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
It was.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
It was mainly just like I was sitting there listening
to all this, I'd be like, I wouldn't be interrupting,
but like, clearly it would be affecting me. But it
didn't seem to affect her too much.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
I guess she does also a point.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Yeah, in her defense, she didn't know that you're supposed
to waft chemicals, so a little bit of you know,
your raw.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
She's, yeah, he's probably been waiting for that. He's like,
I know, I know like a fun fact about wafting,
and I hope that could be just a little piece
of maybe why she stays with me after all this,
And so I'm gonna find the perfect time to just
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drop a little waft fact.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Okay, anything else about Carlin one?
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Uh? He says, he says, before they go to see
your parents, I like to joke around. Are they gonna laugh?
I'm like, that really depends that someone. Uh just depends
on the audience.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeh does.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Think Juancho because he says he kept calling himself in
his letters. So I was like, wait, was that a
nickname that he's always had or did he just pick
it up after Carla started calling him that, and that
I wondered, Yeah, we may never know anyway, always had it?
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Yeah, okay, all right, show in one, okay, all right.
So now now we come to the program where we
answered the question that our guests was trying to ask earlier,
and now I'm going to now because we're going to
get your your thoughts about whether or not you think
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these couples are gonna make it. So this is how
married at First Sight works. These couples meet for the
very first time at the altar and they get married,
they have eight weeks to decide whether or not they
want to stay married to get a divorce. After the
eight weeks, they go up in front of the experts
and they say yes, I want to stay married, or no,
I want to get a divorce, and if one says
(50:03):
yes and the other says no, they get a divorce.
So with that being said, do you think that Camille
and Thomas are going to say yes or no undecision day?
Speaker 4 (50:12):
I mean, yeah, this is all within the context of
I think they've got three weeks left at this point.
I think I saw I was like twenty one days. Yeah,
they say the end of the episode nineteen. Yeah, I
think yes.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Yes, Okay, m m Andy Kach fuck no, okay, fuck no,
David and Michelle, no, Madison and Allen, No, Carla and Juancho.
Speaker 4 (50:40):
Ooh yes, okay, David and Madison.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Or David and one or David and one. We're just
out here hooking up with everybody.
Speaker 5 (50:56):
You have to see who they end up hooking up with.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Which brings me to our our last question for you, Chris,
which is the most important question of all, and it
is will you continue to watch married?
Speaker 4 (51:07):
At first? I knew it. I knew it, you know,
I'll answer that by saying this, you know, like I said,
when I approach the show, I approached it very much
from a like, like a certain understanding of reality programming
where I'm like, I just I just kind of want
to make fun of it and stuff. And you know,
(51:29):
I think I think watching the show, it is long,
and I think at points, I'm like, I don't know
that it needs to be this long, uh, the episode length,
you know, the seasons, maybe as a whole. I'm not sure.
I haven't watched very much of it, but I mean
I do appreciate how they you know, they kind of
(51:50):
let things breathe, and I don't know, I I guess
there there are specs of this show where I'm like,
this feels like I mean, it's it's obviously definitely more
on the like, you know, kind of like docu reality
side of things than other other shows. I think I
(52:12):
lost my train of thought. I actually would probably maybe
watch some more because I'm kind of curious to see.
I mean, when they showed when they showed the preview
for next week, I see that this texting thing is
still going on. I'm like, incredible, incredible that they could
(52:33):
still milk this.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
I'm gonna knock out.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
Yeah, you're saying this one is this, this one was
or the next one?
Speaker 5 (52:43):
Okay, this one is good.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
It makes you to keep watching, right, Yeah, you'll.
Speaker 5 (52:51):
Keep watching for a little bit. That would be great.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
I might. Yeah, maybe maybe another episode or two, see
see how I feel.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
But also, I think we should all do that exercise
where we write a letter to our younger selves. We
should do a special podcast episode or write to it ourselves.
Speaker 5 (53:07):
You should do it with your your partner.
Speaker 4 (53:10):
Chris, maybe maybe.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Baby like baby.
Speaker 4 (53:19):
I wrote a I mean I wrote a card for
on our first birthday with with the attention that she
would read it like later on. No, I think I
think that's a good I think that's a good exercise.
I'd like to spend time thinking about, like what age
or ages I would I would write? Two could be interesting.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
It's a great way to connect with somebody and show
your vulnerability.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
True. Yeah, okay, So Chris, do you have any shows
or anything to plug or you want to plug your uh?
Speaker 4 (53:56):
Any shows to plug? If you guys are watching, Uh,
you guys should watch. I'm not on it. I just
I'm really liking and Apple Plus. Now, if you guys aren't,
I don't have anything to plug other than if you
(54:17):
guys are looking for a fun card game to add
to your table, please go get Domblings. We are a
small indie game company. We we do have the fortune
of being in some some big box retail stores, but
we still need we still need support. We still need
uh support, just like any other small business. So it's
a really fun game. If you're looking for two to
(54:40):
six player, really easy to pick up and and uh
and learn and share with people.
Speaker 5 (54:46):
Nice, I'm going to get it.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
I know I want to check out.
Speaker 5 (54:49):
Yeah, you got a supporter right here. Awesome.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
What about you summer? Any shows to plug?
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Well, I think I've got your show coming up on
February eighth. Yes, I bullied you into booking me.
Speaker 4 (55:02):
And.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
Then I'm also doing uh, let's see, I just booked.
It is on February second, the late musical show.
Speaker 4 (55:18):
You're in it, I'm in it.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yeah, he's a show where.
Speaker 5 (55:24):
We play characters, real characters, so I can say who
I'm playing. Can I say who I'm playing?
Speaker 3 (55:32):
Oh? I would? I think?
Speaker 2 (55:34):
So, Okay, I'm playing now. I actually don't know anything
about her, but I will research it.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
I may know who she is.
Speaker 5 (55:41):
Hailey will choose the hawk to a girl, the hawk
to a girl.
Speaker 3 (55:47):
But I mean I know who she is.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
I just don't.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
I'm not like on TikTok or anything, so I didn't
really follow it. But yeah, but I'm going to do
a d time now.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
You bet your asshown other shows or anything needs to
be plugged.
Speaker 3 (56:05):
I am kind of producing the show on February second,
Late show Musicals, so you see it. I've found that
as a credit kind of producer producer question Mark question
And just to add on, Doomlings is really great. They
have expansion packs. They have plushies, which I think are
(56:28):
still available. I don't want to lie. They have plushies,
and it is a really great game night when you're
having like a wine night with your friend's family and
other loved ones. So check it out. And I'm very
proud of Chris for doing it. It's love you.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
All right. Thank you Chris, our guest for being on
the podcast. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (56:55):
Thank you Summer Jamie Skyler. It was a pleasure show
chatting about with you guys.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
Awesome, so much fun.
Speaker 4 (57:03):
Yay
Welcome to Man and Finally Single.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Jamie Blair, I'm Summer Austin, and I'm Skyler Fastino Jones.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And this is a meredivers I fan podcast where we
invite a guest on who's never watched an episode. Hey, everybody,
welcome to another episode of Man Finally Single. We have guests.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Guest, We have a very special guest today. He is
a dear friend of mine, one of my best friends.
He spoke at my wedding, he was in my wedding party.
And even though his Instagram and his face may say
that he doesn't want to be here, he's very excited,
Ladies and gentlemen. The co owner and co founder of
(00:50):
Doomling's board game, available at Target, Amazon, or wherever else
you get your board games.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Chris Vayla, Hi, Hi, I am so excited to be
here with you guys and to talk about this show
which I have never seen. Excited to get into it.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Fantastic, Well, Chris, I mean, Skyler pretty much covered it.
But is there anything you would like to add telling
us about yourself?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I don't know, I don't I don't think so. I
mean that that pretty much covers it, well, do.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
You watch reality TV? Are you a reality TV guy?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
No? No, I don't watch reality TV. Usually if I
if I watch it, it's because I got a friend
who works on a reality TV show and they'll be like,
will you just watch it? And I'll be like okay.
But other than that, it's really just kind of premium
you know, sort of traumas and comedies and stuff. So
this is this is new Ish territory for me.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Great, well, thank you for you know, it's a long episode.
These episodes are long, so thanks for.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
They are long? What the heck?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah? I did like two loads of laundry and I
was like, it's going okay.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I've started doing this thing where I like, will watch
it while doing other things instead of I used to
just sit down and like concentrate.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
But it's so long. Now it's like watching a feature film.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Like like is this are there like in the Space
or other shows this long? Is this unusual?
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I feel like it's unusual, But I don't know what
do you guys do well?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I mean in terms of the length of the show
itself and then the series. I think it's unprecedented how
long like each season is because wect.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Like after Party on at the end.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Now if you're watching on a Lifetime so you see that,
And that's another like twenty five to forty minutes that
they just put on there, but also very exciting, like I.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Love I love that show.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, actually this this time after Party recorded. I don't
know why.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Oh you got to see it.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Oh I got to see Yeah, I got to see
after Party this time.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I watched it on the app and was able to
see it. And the question that I have is when
do they record these things? Because our people just pretending
like they don't know what happens the rest of the season, and.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
We don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
That's a great question, Chris.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
We've been trying to figure it out for like three
seasons of this podcast or four season.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
However long we've been doing this. How when do they
actually record it?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
We think that it's significantly after, like this episode has air.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
It may even be after.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I mean not at after the episode is aired, but
definitely after it's been edited and the just been so
it could either be like several months or weeks after
they've recorded it, or it could be like after the.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Whole thing is over.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Who said they thought they had an answer for that
was that you Skyler or did you say he thought
they waited until after.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
It was all over.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
That's my assumption. I feel like it's like everything's been
done and then they're like, like story producers probably like
as a reminder that this hasn't happened yet, so don't
talk about the cheating scandal that probably is happening this season.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, I think it's got to be because I mean
when you look at how different people look afterwards, like
not to you know, talk about their bodies or anything,
but like Michelle was on it and she has lost
a lot of weight, and it's like if that, I mean,
I've been on GLP ones before. If that's I'm not
saying cheeses, but they can it can be pretty fast,
(04:29):
but it can't be like I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's like those things are so it's like these sometimes
people look so drastically different that you're like, there's a
lot of time that's elapsed here.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
So yeah, yeah, well you know, I'm a married man,
so I don't notice when women's bodies change. What I
noticed was once beard was gone was gone.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yes, yeah, and I didn't notice that being not.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Exact, it's weird and you probably notice that I shaved
off my beer.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
No I didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well, no, I didn't for whatever reason. Beer.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Girls, men and women are so different, aren't they.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Oh my god, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Okay, let's start. Let's start talking about the the couples.
So let's start with Camille and Thomas.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Mail and Thomas. I'm trying to pull up my notes.
Here was the boring stray ones. Okay, sweet, sweet? So
they were so boring, weren't they? Oh my god? That
that that was my first thought, like when they were
when they were sitting there with the family and and uh,
I don't know, the thought like it all just felt
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like like everyone was speaking in flatitudes, and like you know,
Camille was just like kind of smiling, and I'm like,
this is this is so, this is so uninteresting. What
what did she mean when she said that she was
back with a new husband? Is she is she? I'm
assuming she's recently divorced.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
No, So I think she because I I think it
was kind of like almost like a joke with her family,
because she's like, all right, I'm here with my husband
that half of you haven't actually met yet, Because like
I think only her dad was at the wedding. No,
she's like, here I am, this is my husband, Come
and meet him. So she's yeah, I don't think she's
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ever been married. She's had tough relationships.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Okay, oh oh okay. So there was one thing the
mom said, or the grandmother, I think it is a grandmother.
She said when she was she was social. When she
was a baby, she always wanted to be held. I
was like, that's that's not a spoiled baby, that's just babies.
What are you what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Baby?
Speaker 4 (06:59):
So firsty all, this this this, this baby has a
unique thirst for milk, Like, what is going on with
this baby?
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Well?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I love how she was like she would just point
at things she wanted, and it's like as opposed to
be like hello, grandmother, may you please hand me my
bottle milk? Thank you very much?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Why why why was this baby not the the sister
from from Dune who could who could talk when she
was like when she was like a little bit. Yeah,
so so bizarre. They I'm trying to think back now
because I didn't really have a lot of notes about them.
They didn't really show them a lot this episode. It
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was just oh, that's not.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Just this episode. Yeah, my theory.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Oh I did like you know the them Oh yeah,
the drunk mom obsessed with I was like, I want
to party with his mom, his bio mom.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, I need a spin off with her. I love
how she's like I forgot my friends and she was
talking about the shot glass. She's like, I got multiple
little shot Well, she was just getting sloppier and sloppier
throughout that visit and I loved it.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Okay, I will say I thought the biological mom stuff
was was pretty nice. Yeah, Like it was that And
that's one thing. I don't know if we're gonna have
like like overall thoughts on the show, and so maybe
I'll maybe I'll save that for later. But yeah, I
thought that was a nice I don't know, I got
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a little emotional during during that stuff.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Well, it's always sad to see someone have to give
up their children. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
They showed what it's like to have to experience something
like that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, And I mean it was probably even harder for
her because she also had twins. So what's his It
doesn't matter he has a twin brother. Yeah and yeah, yeah,
so I mean that's like I did like the storyline.
I was obsessed with her. I was obsessed with Kimill's grandmother. Yeah,
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but I mean again, it just goes back to my
theory that it's like this is the only couple that's
going to make it because like their storyline is just
so boring, because it's just so like normal. Like there
was an episode a few weeks ago that I was like, oh,
I just fully didn't take any notes on them. I
didn't even write their names down.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
How Like I didn't write any notes about them this time.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah, So, so they get married and what they've got
thirty days or what's what's the timeline?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
We will talk We will talk about that at the
end of the episode. I will give a whole rundown
of how of how the show works.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's literally what he was asking at the beginning, and
we didn't tell him that, and.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Now you're talking him in the middle of the podcast.
He literally asked like.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I know, right, and they were like, shut up, let's
never what's never happened. Nobody's ever asked about this.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Because he's so so with it, all right, I know
I don't I don't mean to like shut him down,
but I just.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
A tight headlight.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Okay, I just, I just I had one one thing
I wanted to say, because I believe that they traveled
far south of Chicago, because I started seeing cows and
I'm like, oh, you're not in the South suburbs, because
that's where I thought they were going. But I think
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they're I think they're close to Champagne, because she would
because if you saw her jersey, it was Urbana she
and so I think she's somewhere. I think they traveled
kind of far soud. I mean, it couldn't even be
a Kankakee or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
But that's where you're from, Jamie. What outside outside of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Outside of Chicago where I'm from, I'm even further south
in Champagne, even further south. Yeah, yeah, I'm yeah. Yeah.
It's three about three and a half hours from You're
real down there, yeah, whereas Champagne's two hours from Chicago.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
I can't say I've ever been to Champagne.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But that's all I want to say. Okay, anything and
Thomas Gods Okay, all right, amm Andy KG.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, this is yeah, this is a sad couple to watch.
I think that At first, I was like, so, I think,
like I think like ninety ninety five percent. I mean,
at least from what I saw in this episode, like
it seems like the problems are just stemming from uh okay,
(12:00):
is it is it a catchy that's the that's the man? Okay?
Uh yeah? He just yeah, but there there was there
was one thing later in the episode where I was like, oh,
like he is he is kind of right about that.
He was saying that he didn't want to talk about
(12:20):
something and she was like, no, we gotta and then
a few minutes later she was like, well, if you do,
if you don't want to talk about it, just say
you don't want to talk about it, and he's like
I did. So I was like that is one, but
everything but everything else, I'm like, yeah, this guy's just
kind of being again. It's it's it's strange because it
was what episode twelve, So I'm coming into this. I
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don't know like what the like, what the background is
is with these with these characters, but like if if
she said something, if she's just been really messed up
toward him, like up to this point in the season,
or I don't know, but but from from what I saw,
he's just he's just kind of putting up walls and
(13:02):
being kind of a kind of prick.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Masculinity.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
He's a child, is what he is.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Absolutely nobody's perfect, but he is like I mean, you know,
his wife, like, yeah, of course, the miscommunication and you know,
I feel like that's just part of the course when
you're trying out a relationship. But he is really stonewalling
her and being awful. And I just also love how
he cannot give her a real apology. Did you see
(13:35):
that part?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Oh my gosh, he's a child.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, Like, I'm sorry if you feel that way. And
she's like, well, yeah, I just told you I felt
that if Yeah, I do love whenever people are able
to like pick apart.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I'm such a I'm so big on communication, like, like,
especially over the year, have just found that, like so
many issues like in relationships are just in business, can
just be resolved with people just more clearly communicating with
each other. It's amazing. I agree. And yeah, so when
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she like picks apart stuff like that, No, no, I
told you that I felt this way, so you don't
need to say if you feel this way, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Well, Kach, I mean a lot of the shit he's doing,
I've done the same thing in my twenties. In my twenties,
he's a forty one year old man acting like a child,
and he's I hate him. He's pissing me off. I
don't m M is such a good catch, yes, And
(14:45):
I think that's his issue is she is she's too
good for him, and he feels threatened by her because
she's aggressive.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Obviously, And it's not because she's aggressive, it's because she
makes more money than he does.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Mmmm.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Which Speaking of aggression, I thought it was hilarious that
when they like got back to the apartment, he was like,
I think we need to take a step back and
just get to know each other and ask questions. And
I wrote down I was like, WHOA, don't get too aggressive,
okag because like he literally like whenever she asks him questions,
he's like, you're getting aggressive. You're trying to get to
know me, that's it. And I was like, okay, so
(15:23):
it's fine if you do it. Yeah, it was her.
It's aggression, guy telling you man too much.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I mean to be fair. When people ask me questions,
I put I put the put up the walls and
put up the defenses. Don't ask me questions, do they
so do all of the participants live in the same
type of apartment because that was one thing I noticed.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I think production puts the.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Production off, Yeah, gives them it's like.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
A temporary like move in situation where they so they
have their own homes, but they have this and they're
encouraged to.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Stay in the shared living place.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And then conveniently all the all the couples are in
the same apartment complex.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Oh interesting, Yeah, I did, because I did notice that,
like it seems like the they have relationships with each
other outside of the outside of the marriages, like, yeah,
they're all friends kind of. Yeah, And it's interesting that
they are living in these like kind of smaller apartments
because it does force them to be you know, closer
(16:33):
and see how yeah, just see what conflicts might arise.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
The reason that they're closed, just real quick, is because
the men and the women.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
All the men met each other beforehand, like during the
bachelor party, and the women met each other, so they
kind of got to know each other a little bit,
and then they didn't know the opposite you know, so
they they kind of formed that little.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Bond in the beginning, got it, Yes, So.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Then obviously go to like the gym and stuff together
and things like that, so which I think will maybe
prove to be a storyline later on.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
That's what I think.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I think it's tease.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yes, I just want to say when it was the
the Rico Bath Dog, I was.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Good for her for having this conversation while she's just
fully giving her dog a bath, because I think adopted
her baby. Let me tell you, doing anything while trying
to give a dog a bath impossible. Give it up.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Wait you we got to catch up.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
We got to catch up. We got to do it.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Okay, anything else about m.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yes, really quickly. I think she is officially because like
I clocked it with a couple people in this episode
where I was like, oh, this person and his like
knows that this marriage is done, but they're now just
here for the paycheck, because like they did end up
talking about it, but I clocked it before they talked
about it, where she's like, I think it just needs
(18:11):
to go and live on his own for a little bit,
blah blah blah, And the producer was like, wait, you
stopped calling him your husband because this entire she's like husband, husband, husband,
And I was like, oh, she doesn't like she doesn't
believe in this anymore, but she's gonna collect that fucking paycheck,
and good for her.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yep, I don't blame her, okay, anything else about? All right, Well,
let's go to David and Michelle.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
The namesake for the episode. Oh, I just want to
eat you up.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I mean talking about the food that I'm eating right there.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
So there's so much, there's so much ick. It's just
so much. First of all, First of all, again not
knowing the context, and I think they said that they
had like just just got done spending the day together.
But uh, number one, I mean, seems easy to me
that he could just say like, oh, that message was
(19:18):
for you, like you didn't like it? I thought I
thought you'd find it very sexy. Like what okay, no, mass.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Right, what a dumb ass, god, terrible lie he came
up with.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
So bad, awful cousin Denise, Oh, I want to know
what that food was? I mean, he can't. He was,
he was like, he was like, he was like, I
don't know, it's like dumplings.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
My god, do.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Not remember you said a text that basically say you
want to fuck this food and you don't remember what
it looked like.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Now it's just like vaguely, it was like, I don't know.
In David's defense, didn't he tried Tosh for the first
time on their honeymoon. Yes, so it's possible that he
doesn't with the.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Oh true, true, Yeah, no way, that was such a lie.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I just it's so fun to watch men just lie. God,
it's the best.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I mean the scramble, the scramble in the car. Oh yeah,
I was texting my cousin and yeah, I just I
saw the food and wow, I just I wanted to
eat it up.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I'm not looking at a plate. I'm not looking at
a color of plate. Is it white?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Is black?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Wasn't hair?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Is her hair?
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Is her hair up? Is it down?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
What you wear?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
And I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I want to fuck the food.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Also shout out to Detective Michelle where she's like, you
texted Madison than Alan to go hang out with them,
so you would have got to have texted somebody besides me,
and that like twelve hour period. I was like, yes, Like, so, can.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
I see the photo of the phone.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I don't want to get it. He's like, I can't, I.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Can't be Oh no, there's no nothing. Oh my God.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
But another easy, another easy recovery as a snapchat disappeared.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
You see, I'm on the gentlemen. If you need to
cheat on your spouse or significant other, call up Chris Baila,
He'll get you covered.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Right, I mean, at least we know he's definitely not
an actor, right, God right, he.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Is a real stupid guy.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I just told that bold ass life right before going
to dinner to a family reunion with cousin Denise.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Are you shitting me?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That could have turned out so bad if Michelle didn't
have class.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I don't think I even realized that she was there
because the Denise was there.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Yes it was.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I thought there was Michelle's family that they were with.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
It was said that she in the after party she
said she.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Met his family like later on, and cousin Denise was
there there and she decided not to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Right, didn't she say that on the opfectity.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Wasn't on camera. They when they went to visit his family,
it wasn't on camera, So we didn't see any of that.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Right, but they did.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
He did tell the lie right before the family reunion, right,
because she could have had the opportunity to say right
then and there in front of the whole family. Hey, guys,
this is so weird. I got this text yesterday. Apparently
it was about her food, Denise yesterday. She could have
destroyed that family event and she didn't.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, Orty told her to save it for the cameras well.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
So so first, yeah, talk about the family aspect of it,
because number one, I think if it was something where
it was like his side of you know, the family,
and he was going to bring up the text message
or she was going to bring up the text message,
I think that would have made a lot of sense
to just like publicly destroy him. But like, because they're
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going to see her family, at least I understand they're
going to go see her family. She's she's got this
line where she's where she's like, I've decided not to
bring up the text with my family, and like just
as I'm like, yeah, of course, of course you're not
going to bring up this text with your family. That's
so weird.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
And did you imagine, guys, I think my husband meant
to sex someone else. Anyway, let's have.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Everything.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Well, something happened today that I would like to tell
you about fam.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
That is not. It is not. I'm just I've been
married for ten years, okay, And it doesn't matter whose
side of the family we're having a gathering with. No
one is turning to us and being like, so, what's
going on in your marriage? Like maybe it's just a
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like a thing with this show or a reality TV thing,
but that really that that just really stood out to me.
I like the one one stuff makes total sense, Like
of course I'm gonna like talk about my marriage with
with Skyler Frog get in drinks or I'm gonna, you know,
just you know, if I'm washing my dog with a friend.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
But I don't know, I don't know. It's I mean,
it's definitely like producers in their ears, like Okay, this
is like the reason that they're coming over. We're gonna
talk about your marriage. And then like but none of
them are trained professionals, so they're like, wow, this barbecue
is delicious. Anyway, how's your man marriage? And it's like, great,
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we got we got where we needed to go. Good job.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, I love how the friend or sister I think
it was a friend said that about Michelle at the
family reunion that if you earn her love, you will
never lose it, and I was like, well, that opportunity
is no.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Just as long as you don't sex with anyone, you
she is yours until the day you die.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
God, oh my god, and go out on like three
Tinder dates during your marriage.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
God, why do you incredible.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
They weren't dates. He's just still friends with them.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Still going and getting talk with them and not telling
his wife that's cool.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Yeah, he's like I said the other one the other.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Day, like what biz to admit to that stuff, but
still but still insists because he's just trapped in the
lie at this point, like yeah, but still insists that
that message was meant for his cousin did.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
It just goes to show how scared of his wife
he actually is, because he couldn't even under like, you know,
all the pressure in the world just say it was
for you, Like he just couldn't utter those words it
was for you.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah. Well, like you said, he's obviously not an actor,
because that's what I would have done, and I would
have acted really embarrassed, like I'm so sorry. I had
a couple of drinks.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah, yeah, I thought you were going to be really
into that.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Oh jeez. Yeah, I mean, you know, just now Devil's
advocate here, I will say, we know that David is
not the most well spoken man. Summer. You clocked this
in every episode, like the weird things that he says
but he thinks are phrases but they're not. So I
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was thinking about it and I was like, this could
have in fact been for his cousin because he says
weird shit, so knowing that, but I mean, but then
I guess you get the whole thing where it's like
I don't have the phone and I don't know what
the food was. So if there wasn't for that, I
could see him texting something weird like oh, I just
want to eat you up about food because he's like no,
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like that's.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
But you know what he's such he's such a liar,
Like it's such a it's he's such a.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Liar, Like listen, I think I think the text was
meant for Madison. Yeah, or that's what I think.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I think his finger slipped and it was. And she
also kind of alluded to it because she on the
car ride she was like, are you sure it wasn't
meant for Madison? And I was like, oh, so she knows.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
And names he says his phone is cracked stupid.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I mean, sorry, guys, I'm saying that top three men.
But like you by my husband, he did the same ship.
He sent something to the woman he was fucking it
was supposed to be meant for me, and I was like,
oh my, like who does that?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Like why aren't you paying attention? But s names as well?
We both had s names and.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I think them name S name like I think yeah,
And I was like, I did the same thing. I
was like, I think you meant to send this to
somebody out like I I texted right back.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
I was like, what is this?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Oh my goodness, Summer, David.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Sorry, my internet's unstable.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Were dating David Summer. She heard it.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
I heard it.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Are you the sexty?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
It was, oh my goodness, Summer. She's like, I can't
talk about the show.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I just love how men can't like get women's names
with the different names of the same first letter, like,
tell them apart?
Speaker 5 (29:02):
What is it a treatment? I don't understand that.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
It's it's uh, I think, Shannon, it's just really hard
to keep track of all all.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
These I wonder my my question is does Madison know
that was meant for her? Like, I mean, I know
that I don't know when they're but she told that,
she said the text in front of all of them,
in front of all those girls, and I was looking
at Madison to be like, are you gonna yeah? I mean,
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obviously she didn't get it. He didn't like resend it
to her, hopefully not, but he didn't like, oh, what
was meant for wrong person? But I wonder if she
was like, that was clearly meant for me? How could
you not know that?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
She's like, oh what, that's yeah, right you? And then
she's just like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Unless he's never flirted with her and that was like
his first attempt, and then if so really.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Bad attempt, I don't think it is. Yeah, they work out,
they work out together, so that's probably not the first time.
And I and the other reason why I think that
it's that it's Madison and David that end up. You know,
the infidelity was because doctor Pia says, infidelity between two
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couples is unprecedented, and I'm like, okay, so it's not
somebody outside of this bubble in fidelity between two couples
is unprecedented. It's like okay. And then because you know,
because We've seen previews. We've seen previews of Allen being
you know, crying in mm's arms, kicking the thing and everything.
(30:50):
So I think that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I'm still holding out for the David and Wancho couple.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Maybe it was meant for one. Maybe it was and
he didn't want to say no.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
That is something that's specific from this season. And it's
a gay couple.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Oh, it's missing from the series. Don't worry.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Oh, it's missing from the series. Have they never done it?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Not in America? And this they do on the box
that I will go on.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Eighteen wait, eighteen seasons, they haven't had one gay couple.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Nope, not in the US. The UK and Australian versions
both have gay couples, they match gay couples, but not
the US version.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
So wow, is when they come back to Los Angeles,
Jonesy and I are going to pretend to be single
and then we're going to get matched up together because
we're just going to get that extra match. Oh my god,
he's literally my dream meant will be the Camilla and
Thomas of the season. Everybody's gonna be like, they're so boring.
I'm gonna be like, because we're already married and it'll be.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Great, but you could start ship with the other couples, so.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I'll be like, oh, like you
should totally tell emn that, like you know, she's an asshole.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Okay, are we done with with David and Michelle.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I'm gonna oh my grapes from now on.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
I just I just want to quickly, I just want
to eat you up, is just and and then we
can move on. It's just such a strange. It's just
such a it's it's not.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Like you you basically just made the sound of it.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, it's so anyway, I just want to get that
out there, so so weird.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Cool, all right, let's move on. Madison and Allen.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Right, Yeah, I thought they had a really sweet conversation.
I loved how they both kind of opened up to
each other. And I think one of the things that
kind of like stood out to me, again as someone
who's coming in doesn't have the context, is like, like,
of all the of all the people that I'm watching,
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it feels like these two are like like having a breakthrough.
And then there will be moments like Madison saying like
I feel closer to you. I don't know if the
romantic part is there yet, And I'm like, damn, okay,
that's messed up. What has gone on? Like, of all
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the people, I think, like I could go, I don't.
I don't feel like I need additional But but for
these guys, I think, just because it seemed to me
like they had such like like good, like tender, vulnerable moments,
I'm like, what has gone on between these two that
they're not like that they're not clicking because this I
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don't know, just like her opening up about like softball
and her her past and then you know, him opening
up about like his dad and fishing, like I don't.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Know, unfortunately attracted to him.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah, put into him? And like she said it multiple
times because like in past episodes, he's been like, you know,
would you be proud to like walk down the street
with me? And she's like no, oh, and she's oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
If there's a flirtation going on with David though, it
makes sense because if you're like actively physically attracted to
someone you've just met your husband and there isn't anything there,
if there's something with somebody else, that's never going to
develop with the one that You're right.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I would Yeah, She's like, I would much rather be
seen walking down the street with a dipshit honestly, Oh
my goodness.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Well yeah, because when he was talking about like his
he's like, oh, this serious relationship that I had when
I was nineteen. She ended up texting me that she
had cheated on me with fifteen different guys, and Madison
was like, YAI like the east enthusiastic, and I was like,
because you are doing the same thing. David clocked it.
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She's like, oh god, I hope he doesn't find out
that it's happening again.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Fifteen. Well, I mean, you know, at least it wasn't
like sixteen or seventeen.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, God, your.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Life isn't that is so traumatizing fifteen different.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Guys, right, yeah, now, to be fair, And he also
said that it was a long distance oh, like I
don't know if that means like, oh, she was like
a town over or like a state over, because I'm like, yeah,
in my head, like there was a guy that I
quote unquote dated in college who was very like, you know,
(35:40):
a good hour away, Like, yeah, of course he cheated
on me because it wasn't but.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Still different guys, That's all I mean.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I'm also so for me, I was like.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I thought he was dating a prostitute. Maybe he was
just dating a prostitute. Didn't know it because he I
mean maybe, I don't know. Fifteen, It depends on how
big is the town that she lives in, you know,
if it's a you know, small, smaller sized town. Fifteen guys,
(36:14):
is you know.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Cheated?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
And what does she mean when she said she cheated?
Did you mean cancer? Did you mean fucked her?
Speaker 4 (36:22):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Like emotional affairs or what have you too?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Right, Yeah, I can tell you that this. I got
emotional listening to them talk about Well. First, I got
emotional when they were when they were tossing the softball
because it just and having conversations and it just I
don't know, it took me back to my childhood and
my mom and I playing pitch and catch and we
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were probably we probably had conversation like that, but because
I was a kid, I wasn't present enough to remember
the conversations that we had. So I got emotional about that.
And then I got emotional when he was talking about
his his sister and how when he talked to her
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right before he got married, and he hadn't heard her
voice in eighteen years, you know, because he thought that
he thought that he had robbed her of her childhood
because of his parents. And I'm like, dude, that's not
your fault.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
I know, look married at first, I's bringing healing to families. Yeah,
before the destroy relationships.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
But it did get me emotional, I know. And and
the going and because they were fishing, because that was
something else my mom and I did. We used to
go fishing all the time as a kid.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
It's so cute. And then it was so sweet.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
And then Alan ruined it when he said, hey, it's
really fun throwing the old ball a twine around.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Maybe I don't want to be seen on the street
with you.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Oh no, I love Al is very funny.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
He's a sweet guy.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, you know, he is funny, and he seems to
be considering the traumatic childhood he's had, actually both of them.
I mean, because from what sounds like, Madison's mom is
not not mom material, and so she was reading by
her grandmother who was killed in an almobile accident that
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almost killed her grandfather and her brother. I mean, that's
got to be traumatic.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
I mean man, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Mean I wouldn't want to walk down the street with
somebody who had that much trauma personally. What I don't
like that's called listen, this is my thing. I think
she's I don't. I don't like her because like my
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the thing that I picked up on when they were
tossing the softball back and forth, because she's like when
I was in middle school, the girls were like just
really clicky and they bullied me on how I looked,
and it like just really made me feel bad. And
I was like, oh, is that why you shit talk?
How your husband looks trauma? Oh, I wonder if bad
(39:16):
when you tell him that you had a hard middle
school life. Who didn't toss that softball?
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Meanwhile, like Alan was basically in the in the plot
of Kramer versus Kramer.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I mean, for God's.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Sake, Yeah, yeah, anybody else clock that he knows that
this relationship's over because he when they were talking about
like her mom, He's like, well, one day when you're
with your kids.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Hours he never said us, he said you with your kids,
And I was like, he knows it's done.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Well, I think to play a devil Labrica, I would
I would say that. There's also a there's also a
way that you could think about that, which is like
he's he's not like pushing pushing that on her. I
guess like if it's me, like obviously that would be great.
(40:18):
If it's someone else, that's that's kind of like the
type of guy that I kind of clock him for
based on what I learned about him in this episode,
not not that he's like giving up, just that he's like, Hey,
you're gonna be You're gonna be a great You're gonna
be a great mom. I don't know who the kids
are gonna be with, hop with me, but yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Putting the old ball, it's wine in her court.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
That's so good.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Okay, anything else about Madson and Allen No, okay? Uh,
Carla and janch.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Man And when this, uh, when this sequence first started,
my first thought was, so, I mean when the show
first started, I was and and we'll talk about this
at the end, I guess, but when this first show started,
I was very much in the mindset of, like, you know,
just just coming from you know, comedy background and stuff
(41:19):
like that and just not watching a lot of reality TV.
I come from the mindset of like, how can I
make fun of like what I'm what I'm watching. And
so when he first says like, I'm gonna write, you know,
a letter to my six month old self, I'm like why,
(41:40):
Like why you idiot?
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I did?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, I was like, what the hell do you remember
that happened to you when you were six months old?
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Well, all of us are fool you are, and then
they so it went on and I'm like, oh my god,
First of all, I'm an asshole. The second of all,
this guy's had a rough go of it. H yeah,
oh boy. His parents leaving like it sounds like at
least twice in his childhood for long stretches of time
(42:19):
sounds brutal. I mean I would get my mom used
to used to, you know, take business trips. I remember
how like traumatizing even that was. I still can remember,
like her headlights leaving as I was left in my
grandmother's house and like I can't imagine, like what what
kind of you know, imprint that left on him?
Speaker 5 (42:42):
Yeah, for like eight months was the longest one. Right,
that's a long time. I know. I just oh my gosh,
I like love him now.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
I love both of them like I've I've always loved Carla,
but like, wow.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, Carla has become like the realest person to me
throughout this series. Like when she did her letter, which
like compared to his, was just so I was like, oh,
I was like that's cute, and I was like, oh, fuck,
what if he read his?
Speaker 2 (43:15):
He won a category hands down all the episodes I've
ever seen, that was the best letter writing sigment I've
ever seen.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah, but I love how she was like, yeah, I
just decided to be myself and I started just skipping
down the street and talking to random people on the
street to like get to know them. And I was like, honestly,
I never thought I would say it, but we should
like Carla.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
We all should be more like Carla.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Just the thought of like, you know what, I'm just
going to be myself and I don't give a fuck
and like just thinking about, like, you know what, I
want to just skip down the street because I just
want to, like I don't know what a freeing feeling.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
And I love that for her.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
We should all be more like one because he said
he said I choose happiness and fun, you know, because
like every day is a blessing. And I was just like, oh,
my God, like that is awesome. He's like he's like,
because every day is a blessing.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
I'm like, yes, one.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Also, he doesn't try away from his feelings too, which
I really love, and I was just like, God, that
is so inspiring.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
By the time I got to the after party, and
I think he was talking about the letters again and
he was getting emotional. I was it's funny. During the letters,
I was like, this makes sense because like I've like,
I wrote a whole thing for my grandmother's funeral, which
I chickened out of I didn't read it, and reading
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it to my mom later like I couldn't get through it,
and so I could I can relate to that. But
then I think by the time I got to the
after party, I think the yeah, like the toxic part
of myself came back because I was like, this guy
can't get through anything.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
He did have a very funny moment though, on the
after party, because he's really good friends with David and
when they talked about the text, he was.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Like, oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
My, He's like that's my boy, and he was like,
I gotta admit that was hard to watch.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
It was hard to watch. Yeah, Yeah, it was hard
to watch. Oh yeah, I thought I thought Carl was
kind of like stone cold, like just stone faced while
he was going through all that stuff with the letters.
I don't know, it's just kind of just kind of
funny to watch her just like.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
Holding space Chris.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, she's a duck, I'll give her that, but I
think that's just.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
How she does.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Like if it was me, I would also be like,
oh fuck, Like I wrote just something like that, and then.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
I wrote roses and violets are blue, and this guy
poured his heart out.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
The red violet blue. I skipped down the street. Why
don't you one, don't worry it. Life's hard at six
months because the housekeeper tried to steal you. But one
day and I was like, I was Carla like wapping
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up my letter and just throwing it to the ground
and being like you then, oh my god, that was wild.
I need that whole backstory though. I was like, I
was like a special episode of that.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
I was like, I did I did make a note
of this. While she was stone stone faced, she was
engaged because she did not touch her macha. That macha
was was un drank. By the end of that segment,
she did.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Poof out her lips a little bit, so, so yeah,
she was engaged definitely.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
For me, I feel like I'm such a people pooser
that I would be like, oh and like try to go.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
But I kind of appreciate that she just let him
have a space, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
She tried to.
Speaker 5 (47:19):
Run after him or soothe him. She just let him.
And that's the thing. She let him have his feelings.
She let him get through the difficult part.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
She let it.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
She didn't like, you know, try to make it away.
She just like let it play out.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
And like I think it's I don't think I wanted
her to like reach out and rub his leg or
like anything like that.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
It was.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
It was mainly just like I was sitting there listening
to all this, I'd be like, I wouldn't be interrupting,
but like, clearly it would be affecting me. But it
didn't seem to affect her too much.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
I guess she does also a point.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Yeah, in her defense, she didn't know that you're supposed
to waft chemicals, so a little bit of you know,
your raw.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
She's, yeah, he's probably been waiting for that. He's like,
I know, I know like a fun fact about wafting,
and I hope that could be just a little piece
of maybe why she stays with me after all this,
And so I'm gonna find the perfect time to just
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drop a little waft fact.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Okay, anything else about Carlin one?
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Uh? He says, he says, before they go to see
your parents, I like to joke around. Are they gonna laugh?
I'm like, that really depends that someone. Uh just depends
on the audience.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeh does.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Think Juancho because he says he kept calling himself in
his letters. So I was like, wait, was that a
nickname that he's always had or did he just pick
it up after Carla started calling him that, and that
I wondered, Yeah, we may never know anyway, always had it?
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Yeah, okay, all right, show in one, okay, all right.
So now now we come to the program where we
answered the question that our guests was trying to ask earlier,
and now I'm going to now because we're going to
get your your thoughts about whether or not you think
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these couples are gonna make it. So this is how
married at First Sight works. These couples meet for the
very first time at the altar and they get married,
they have eight weeks to decide whether or not they
want to stay married to get a divorce. After the
eight weeks, they go up in front of the experts
and they say yes, I want to stay married, or no,
I want to get a divorce, and if one says
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yes and the other says no, they get a divorce.
So with that being said, do you think that Camille
and Thomas are going to say yes or no undecision day?
Speaker 4 (50:12):
I mean, yeah, this is all within the context of
I think they've got three weeks left at this point.
I think I saw I was like twenty one days. Yeah,
they say the end of the episode nineteen. Yeah, I
think yes.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Yes, Okay, m m Andy Kach fuck no, okay, fuck no,
David and Michelle, no, Madison and Allen, No, Carla and Juancho.
Speaker 4 (50:40):
Ooh yes, okay, David and Madison.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Or David and one or David and one. We're just
out here hooking up with everybody.
Speaker 5 (50:56):
You have to see who they end up hooking up with.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Which brings me to our our last question for you, Chris,
which is the most important question of all, and it
is will you continue to watch married?
Speaker 4 (51:07):
At first? I knew it. I knew it, you know,
I'll answer that by saying this, you know, like I said,
when I approach the show, I approached it very much
from a like, like a certain understanding of reality programming
where I'm like, I just I just kind of want
to make fun of it and stuff. And you know,
(51:29):
I think I think watching the show, it is long,
and I think at points, I'm like, I don't know
that it needs to be this long, uh, the episode length,
you know, the seasons, maybe as a whole. I'm not sure.
I haven't watched very much of it, but I mean
I do appreciate how they you know, they kind of
(51:50):
let things breathe, and I don't know, I I guess
there there are specs of this show where I'm like,
this feels like I mean, it's it's obviously definitely more
on the like, you know, kind of like docu reality
side of things than other other shows. I think I
(52:12):
lost my train of thought. I actually would probably maybe
watch some more because I'm kind of curious to see.
I mean, when they showed when they showed the preview
for next week, I see that this texting thing is
still going on. I'm like, incredible, incredible that they could
(52:33):
still milk this.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
I'm gonna knock out.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
Yeah, you're saying this one is this, this one was
or the next one?
Speaker 5 (52:43):
Okay, this one is good.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
It makes you to keep watching, right, Yeah, you'll.
Speaker 5 (52:51):
Keep watching for a little bit. That would be great.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
I might. Yeah, maybe maybe another episode or two, see
see how I feel.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
But also, I think we should all do that exercise
where we write a letter to our younger selves. We
should do a special podcast episode or write to it ourselves.
Speaker 5 (53:07):
You should do it with your your partner.
Speaker 4 (53:10):
Chris, maybe maybe.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Baby like baby.
Speaker 4 (53:19):
I wrote a I mean I wrote a card for
on our first birthday with with the attention that she
would read it like later on. No, I think I
think that's a good I think that's a good exercise.
I'd like to spend time thinking about, like what age
or ages I would I would write? Two could be interesting.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
It's a great way to connect with somebody and show
your vulnerability.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
True. Yeah, okay, So Chris, do you have any shows
or anything to plug or you want to plug your uh?
Speaker 4 (53:56):
Any shows to plug? If you guys are watching, Uh,
you guys should watch. I'm not on it. I just
I'm really liking and Apple Plus. Now, if you guys aren't,
I don't have anything to plug other than if you
(54:17):
guys are looking for a fun card game to add
to your table, please go get Domblings. We are a
small indie game company. We we do have the fortune
of being in some some big box retail stores, but
we still need we still need support. We still need
uh support, just like any other small business. So it's
a really fun game. If you're looking for two to
(54:40):
six player, really easy to pick up and and uh
and learn and share with people.
Speaker 5 (54:46):
Nice, I'm going to get it.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
I know I want to check out.
Speaker 5 (54:49):
Yeah, you got a supporter right here. Awesome.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
What about you summer? Any shows to plug?
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Well, I think I've got your show coming up on
February eighth. Yes, I bullied you into booking me.
Speaker 4 (55:02):
And.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
Then I'm also doing uh, let's see, I just booked.
It is on February second, the late musical show.
Speaker 4 (55:18):
You're in it, I'm in it.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yeah, he's a show where.
Speaker 5 (55:24):
We play characters, real characters, so I can say who
I'm playing. Can I say who I'm playing?
Speaker 3 (55:32):
Oh? I would? I think?
Speaker 2 (55:34):
So, Okay, I'm playing now. I actually don't know anything
about her, but I will research it.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
I may know who she is.
Speaker 5 (55:41):
Hailey will choose the hawk to a girl, the hawk
to a girl.
Speaker 3 (55:47):
But I mean I know who she is.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
I just don't.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
I'm not like on TikTok or anything, so I didn't
really follow it. But yeah, but I'm going to do
a d time now.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
You bet your asshown other shows or anything needs to
be plugged.
Speaker 3 (56:05):
I am kind of producing the show on February second,
Late show Musicals, so you see it. I've found that
as a credit kind of producer producer question Mark question
And just to add on, Doomlings is really great. They
have expansion packs. They have plushies, which I think are
(56:28):
still available. I don't want to lie. They have plushies,
and it is a really great game night when you're
having like a wine night with your friend's family and
other loved ones. So check it out. And I'm very
proud of Chris for doing it. It's love you.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
All right. Thank you Chris, our guest for being on
the podcast. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (56:55):
Thank you Summer Jamie Skyler. It was a pleasure show
chatting about with you guys.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
Awesome, so much fun.
Speaker 4 (57:03):
Yay
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