February 26, 2025 • 66 mins
Sommer and Jamie (no Schuyler this week) talk about Season 18 Episode 16 of Married At First Sight with very special guest Louise Austin (Sommer's mom!)
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to madd and Finally Single.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Jamie Black, I'm Summer Austin, and I'm Skyler Fast Jokes.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And this is a meredithirs I fan podcast where we
invite a guest on who's never watched an episode. Hey,
every ready, welcome to another episode of Madden Finally Single.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We have a very special guest today.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I'm very excited.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yes we do. I guess I'll introduce her. I didn't
ask how you wanted to be introduced that fine, Oh
it's my mom. Yay, okay, thank you. Yes, Louise Austin.
Do you have anything can you tell us about yourself?
I'm a retired middle school teacher, yes, and I live
(00:53):
in Florida, Day, Florida, and uh yeah, so I'm visiting
you and I was married for fifty years.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You are, I'm gonna say you are.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I'm like, what what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
What?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
She watched the show and now she wants to get
a divorce.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'm married for fifty years. I have two beautiful daughters. Really,
thank you, thank you mom.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Well, and and you do know that that Summer and
I got fake married last year. So so you she's
my comedy husband. Yeah, yeah, So so this is all
in the family today.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yes, sure, I'm getting kind of used to that. And okay,
so Mom, you don't really watch a lot of reality TV. Dude,
I know you've never seen this show before. What do
you do you.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Work America, American Idol American?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I don't. I'll watch it from time to Are you
a fan of Ryan Seacrest? I love I love Ryan
Seacrest because I watch Real of Fortune. I listen to
him every morning I'm kissing. I think he's yeah, it's great. Yeah,
I think he's cute. Yeah, he's all right. Can I
(02:21):
keep hoping one day here I bump into him? Maybe
I doubt it, but I think if I started bing more,
I might run into bikes a lot. Yes. Okay, So
to this episode, Jamie, where do we want to get started?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well, we'll start with Michelle and Madison because that was
the first conversation.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And just and and first of all, what are your thoughts?
That's so long? I just think I hold anything back.
I just think it's you know, just I think reality
TV is scripted. I don't really think it's real, you know,
but it's entertaining. Obviously you guys like it. But I
(03:06):
just I don't know, I can find better ways. I'd
rather read, okay, or a movie or you know, yeah,
because it's kind of silly, it's yeah, but it's okay.
I don't want to, you know, disrespect yours. It's very nice.
I mean, I didn't realize it was so that people
(03:27):
really like that. Oh yeah, seas, I get it. I
get what do you get about it that people like
these are different cultures, different and people like that sort
of thing. Oh okay, you know, you know, I just
never watched a lot of TV. I guess. Yeah, I
(03:49):
was always working. Yeah that's true. That's fine. You don't
have to watch it, but you have to watch it
for this one. Yeah, so these are conversations we're breaking
it up.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Into because that's what they had.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, the one chick. You know, it's just like weird
that but I get it. It's like a temporary mayor
or of spontaneous marriage. I guess you guys would get that.
But it just seems so so crazy. You know, seven
weeks and I only saw one episode, but it was
(04:22):
way too drama dramatic, Yeah, too much drama. Yeah, I
don't know, silly, silly. Do you think there's drama marriages.
Oh yeah, probably, I guess.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
There's definitely drama in these marriages.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, and it's all crammed into like, you know, like
a marriage. When I think of a marriage, you know,
it's definitely longer than seven weeks. Well they're suppose they
might be married longer than seven weeks, but they aren't
at the moment. They're only there. You know, they even
just met each other weeks ago, So it seems like
(04:56):
quite a lot of I don't know. I don't even
remember them, Michelle, what happened you remember? I do? I
remember they were like one met the other in the
bathroom and accuse the you know, I guess the one
Gal and the other girl's husband they fell in love,
(05:16):
or you know, they liked each other better than the other.
I don't know they're in love. I think that one
Gal Madison, she is Madison, the one that stole the
husband or was with the husband or whatever. She I
think she's she doesn't like him as much as he
likes her.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Oh yeah, no, for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So there's another drama. You guys will be front rows
for us, So I remember that.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, no, And but David kept betting into the conversation.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Because they were doing it. Where was that? But I
guess it was there bathroom. I don't know, there was
that whole resort, that retreat, and that was to me, you.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Know, could you did you? So every now and then
they would do a camera shot that was there was
from the point of point of view of the house,
and there was a business across the street with a
green sign and I could never read what that sign.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Said, Perseverance or something. Really, I didn't, oh.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Was that what it was?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, because I was trying to figure out where that
house is in north Brook.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You could look up. I thought it said Perseverance Big Okay,
maybe Apence Northbrook, Illinois. I see what comes up?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, your computer right there.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
But I thought that's what it said. I you know,
I was looking at it too. I don't know if
that was like the name of the property or what.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, I didn't think, yes, Perseverance Ministries, Northbrook, Illinois.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Industry Church, Megachurch. We were so there might be something
going on here because we watched it on Lifetime, can
I say that? And every five minutes there was a
commercial about God loving us, so Jesus, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Really he gets us.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
We must have watched it, like and so that kind
of spoiled it too, you know, every five minutes we
timed it. Yeah, I was like, there's so many flipping
commercials and they were for a long time. It was
this Jesus gets us, he gets it, or he gets us. Yeah,
like an hour and a half it seemed like that.
(07:41):
Then all of a sudden, it was a different series
of commercials, like a car, like some kind of car insurance.
I don't know, but we were already oh yeah, it
was the new like but it was like the Siri
inside the car, yeah car. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I don't know if you speaking of commercials since we're
talking about commercials.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I don't e g.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Commercial, the ADT commercial.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Oh yes, No, I'm gonna get to that. No, I'm
talking about an actual, an actual commercial. I don't know
if you noticed. It was a It was a promo
and a preview of an upcoming movie called I'll Be
Home for National Margarite Today, and it is presented by Chili's.
And I thought it was I thought it was fake.
(08:31):
But it's an actual movie, is it really? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I wasn't paying attention to that.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I was like, what Chili's is sponsoring a movie called
I'll be Home for National Margarite Today.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I must speak. That's is wild talk with the ultimate
product placement. But the AD two.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Guess who's in it?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
He Diggs is in it?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Really? Yes, funny, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Weird, it's good.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, okay, anyway, yes, now the ADT commercial Thomas, I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I lost my mind. What is happening? And what did
she say? Well, I'm just so glad that ADT was
protecting the from what from? From from? I'm so confusing,
Maybe because because remember they showed the date like the
ringcam or something right right, Actually, that would be a
(09:32):
better product placement. They'd be like, well, I was looking
at the ring cam last night. Yeah, I know, so
that ADT installed. Thank goodness those were here. I wouldn't
to know how that got destroyed. That would be a much.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Better That was cracking me up.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
My god, that was so weird. I just wrote down
the whole time. It seemed to go on forever. How
you know, five minutes there's a Ruschel, you know. I
just wrote down things that my mom said during this,
which was you said, this looks like a poor acting
job from everyone yeah, and it just looks like a
(10:11):
bad soap opera, you said. And then thirty five minutes
and she said, is it over?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
No, there's six hours to go. Okay, oh my god, god.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, sorry for making almost You're much more fun than
watching that, I'll tell you. And then she said, you
think they've been married twenty years? Right, you know whatever,
they weren't even it just seemed crazy to me. And
you said something about you said something about Oh my god,
this is what she said about math. This is terrible.
She goes about Alan, she goes, she goes, well he's
(10:55):
getting bald. That other guy is a full head of hair.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Well, I mean, she's got a point.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
She seems kind of shallow to me, so who knows.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's only been seven weeks.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, yeah, like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I don't buy it for that. That whole thing just
like well that was when you yelled at the TV
and you said it's only been seven fighters. They're acting
like it's been seven years.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean listen, I'm not I'm not
again not mad at Madison or David for you know,
I mean, it's just but this but this is classic.
Why people have affairs. This is exactly why people have affairs.
(11:54):
When you feel like you're not getting what you need
at home, you then start looking for it elsewhere. Yeah,
and I get it that that's not the right thing
to do, but but you know.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
The thing is is I think they have a contract
and they shouldn't have. They could have waited I thought
seven weeks, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
You know, yeah, no, I'm not saying that right now.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
They could have waited just one week, yeah, because there's
only one more week to go. But they had already
I think, been you know, oh yeah, probably for a
couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, that minute, right.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
No, even though last episode they just said to stage
a scene where Madison like this is where like, I
don't this is. I don't think the producer staged it.
I think that like Madison and David staged it. And
that's even worse, where she was like I just want
to say I have feelings for you and he was
like oh really, and then he was like that text
(12:48):
message that I said that he was that had gotten
found out, he gotten found out about it was meant
for you, And she was like what no, bad acting. Yes,
but that was on a different one, right, I didn't
see you didn't do that one.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, no, that was on the last episode.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
That was that was when we knew that, Well, Madison
and David are not on here for acting gigs.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
But I guess, like you were saying, they just presented.
You know how something like that can happen, like you
were saying.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
You know, yeah, I'm just you know, I've been saying
it for years. I'm like, listen, people have affairs because
whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
They're not getting at home.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
They're looking for elsewhere instead of having a conversation with
their spouse and say, hey, you know I really need
this from you or what especially.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So early in and with that, you know, you think
and you're not like really that connected. Well, they're just
there to be on a show probably you know what
I mean, and that you would take it to the
next level. They're trying to find people really want to
be married. But like you know, thousands and thousands of
people apply for the show sometimes like maybe not ten
(14:04):
or is it like ten thousand people could be on it.
I mean obviously they somebody knew. Somebody knew from the
get go. They were happy. Nobody's doing anything that somebody
doesn't know about because it's a set. The whole thing
is a set, exactly true. The only people that don't
(14:26):
know are people like you, you know, but you can
predict yeah, because it's so predictable. Yeah, you know, it's true.
Everybody else everything. Because they're trying to show you in
two weeks probably or eight how many weeks do they
have to be married?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, So I'm just trying to show you probably a
bunch of different things that can happen in a marriage
during that time, you know, yeah, I would imagine, but
they do it over and over, right, yes, but this
is the first what they show different kinds of scenarios.
This is the first time though that one that a
couple's ever switched or swapped. Somebody swapped with one because you.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Know the American version, well yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
The American version. Yeah, but they had to put it
in there some way, sooner or later, I would think,
because that's just one of the it happens, and it is. Yeah,
I think that's what they do. But nothing on that
show didn't get by somebody when it first when the
sparks first started to fly. So wow, but it's hard
(15:33):
to you know, take it seriously. Yeah, which conversation is next, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Did David and Juan conversation in the kitchen?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Oh? Yeah, that was weird. What happened weird? The one
guy tries to talk to his buddy there.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, he was saying, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I think I wrote down something about this where it
was like she was he was saying, like she works out.
Russey saying David was listening all the things that he
was had in common with her. He was like, she
works out. I look up Man and the girls like
two in her fantasy football.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I was like, right, oh, that was no. That is
the conversation with Tommy at the bar with David's No,
I'm talking about when one and when Wan was like.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
When they're in there making coffee in the morning, and
I guess and I didn't know his name, but he
was being weird because at first he started to be
kind of cool about it, and then all of a
sudden he was weird. I thought, what did you think, Genie?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, he was, well, I mean, you know, he told
David He's like, he's like, dude, you know, you're starting
out on a bad note. You know, how where's the
where's the trust going to be? In this relationship. You
all dipped out, you know, behind your spouses and everything.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
So that was had a testimonial of Carla and she
was like, no, that was later. That was because it
was just the two guys in there for a while. Okay,
yeah yeah, but then near the end of their conversation,
it's that one can't have anything to do with David
(17:19):
because of it, and it's.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Like, oh that that was Thomas. Thomas was like, I
can't be team David anymore. It's like I have to
be team Michelle because this is.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yes, yeah, like Survivor.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Well they are going to be going to NBC.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Next right, so they are they are, So maybe they
had to I don't know. Maybe they had they had to,
like I don't know, get the drama up or something
for Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I mean I bet the NBC was like, look, if
you are coming over here, it's got to be better. Yeah,
writers and stuff. I don't know, Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, are they have better sets? I thought that
are there writers on reality TV? Do they have a
writer's room officially? I don't think they do.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I don't think they have a writer's room, but there
are writers on reality shows?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, yeah, and they are actors on reality shows. I
know she's saying they're all bad. I'm like, they're not actors,
but well they want to be. Think they all want
to be. Oh definitely. You don't think anybody on here
is actually there to find love? Oh love of come on,
but I mean maybe like that one guy. It was believable,
(18:45):
that Alan name that he was. You know, I think
he acted like he can't get a girl any other
way or something. At this point, she said, go to
a normal people. I mean, really, you don't have to
(19:06):
go on a show like that for real love. Really,
I mean, come on, mom, it is out there on
these streets for some people.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
You have.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You haven't been single for fifty years. Yeah, well I'll
tell you it's not all. It's cracked up. What what
you may get married to dad is sometimes not Oh
my god, I'm sure it's the same. Yes, marriages have
(19:36):
their ups and Downs's very true.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
They do. They do.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Okay, So the next conversation was Madison, Well it was David.
David and Madison had a conversation before.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
She took off.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Oh yeah, in the bedroom.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
In the bedroom, yeah, what they say.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
They were kind of saying goodbye or something kind of.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I don't yeah, because Madison was leaving, uh because the
tension in the house and everything, and so she's like, yeah,
I'm gonna take off and.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
And everybody's business. Oh right, I just confused Madison. Sorry,
I was like, where was the David Michelle conversation? Okay?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And they they hugged, you know, I know, like they've
never kissed before. Yeah, they were hugging, like they've never kissed.
I'm like, please, you all have kissed.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Is this when they showed the security footage of Madison
and David's apartments syncing up?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
No, that was that was when Alan and Michelle were
talking in Michelle's apartment.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Oh right, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, No, this was just the This was just the
you know, he went into the bedroom and the Madison's
or she went into his bedroom or whatever. I don't
know which one it was. But she was saying goodbye
because she was leaving.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
That was much you thought.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Looked cheap, you know, oh whatever walls or whatever that was.
She hated the decorps. Oh well, quick remodel inside that.
The outside looked great, but the inside, well, I mean
they do have to have like twelve bedrooms or something
in this house. So they probably were just probably.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
They had to find a large house for everyone, and
it's not everyone sleeping together.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
They had that extra bedroom, right and.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You got everything else. Yeah, I don't know. They're probably
not staying there overnight. I guess you don't think somebody
isn't who or there's a camera. Do you think that
they their production Yeah, that stays with them overnight, or
do they stay like at a hotel nearby? Oh I
(21:46):
feel I feel like they're probably hotels the night and
leave them to their own devices.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
For the night, or they go home because the production
are probably from Chicago.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Okay, yeah, they probably just go home.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, yeah, because why pay for why why pay for
hotels for people that live in the area.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Maybe someone's stating there if they but I think they
probably have cameras. People have to go home and go
to sleep. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Oh, they definitely have cameras.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Oh yeah, they have cameras. And then yeah, so but
somebody the cameras tell you everything, so.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
They know cameras don't lie.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Okay, So the next conversation was Madison, Carla, and Camille.
When Madison sat Carla and Camille down to tell them.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Okay, okay, now you can talk about Carla. Oh, Carla's girl.
I don't know. You don't like Carla too much? What
do you like about her? I don't know. It just
seemed like it was so put on. Really, she seemed
like she was acting dumb. Well like I'm from Stardust
(23:06):
and crystals and I'm gonna put my crystals in my
Yoni egg inside of me, and she's very into that.
But I think that's actually her I was. I don't
think she was shooting baskets, to tell you the truth.
But I don't know if that was all edited either.
But you know, the girls shooting basketball, that was the
highlight of the whole show. If yes, maybe a little
(23:28):
bit of sports.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Okay, all right, that's reality TV.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, when do you think about it? Yes, but I
don't think they, you know, edit and stuff like that.
Like I suspect, right, I don't believe anything on these
reality shows, sure, because I think they can be edited
and well, other things are live, you know what I mean,
different than I would love to see a live reality
TV show, right brother or something. But even that, I
(23:59):
don't think it. I don't think you could find anything
that's really live that especially if you have a production
crew and it goes on over days and weeks. You know,
there's no way. Yeah, it's true. You know, just even
doing this, you know you want to sit in a
certain spun and you know, yeah, there's even a little
bit of production involved in this.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yes, there is.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
That's true. I'm very impressed that you're thinking about all
the production elements.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, because yeah, because we talk about it all the time.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Oh yeah, we love it.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
We love yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, you know there there's a couple of well I
was bringing this up in my class that I teach too,
and a lot of my students are like, have you
seen Unreal? Have you seen that one?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Real? It's a it's a scripted show about a reality production,
reality TV show production crew.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Really Yeah, it's good. I bet it's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
It's hilarious. They're like on like a Bachelor type show.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Nice, Okay, I will need to check.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
On the producers. You haven't watch any of those reality
shows like Bachelor? No, yeah, we like we like a
love reality program, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You and I mm hmmm, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Love is Blind too, which is another one. I actually
like them. Maybe not more.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Sometimes I get sick of love is blind but married
at first. I just keep coming back to it. So
she asked us why we like this show before. She
asked before we logged on. So I thought this would
be a good time for us to answer that question, Jamie,
because my mom just doesn't get it.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Well. I mean, for me, I'm fascinated by this idea
of arranged marriages and the and the level of effort
that a lot of them put into these arranged marriages,
more so than my ex wife put into our marriage.
(26:09):
Uh So it's just I don't know, it's just it's
fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I just, oh good. I was gonna say you should
probably you know, because they're in real life there are
arranged marriages, and you know, I'm talking culturally right, how
some cultures have that and you know how they adapt.
There's also a reality show about that too, The Indian Matchmaker.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I have not watched it yet.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
It's good. Sometimes you know, those can be a little
bit put on too, but you know, yeah, then there's
also one about an American matchmaker. There was a show
an American matchmaker as well. She was like she had
like a big personality, but also Jamie, his ex wife
on a reality dating Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
So yes, a dating story that was on the Learning
Channel back in the early aughts.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
How long were you married?
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Eight and a half years?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Okay, that's that's pretty good track record for a dating
reality show.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Well, yeah, but it was about four years too long.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, yeah, forget that. Yeah, you know it's not easy, Jamie,
it's but also I feel like I feel like when
I was getting divorced, I feel like I, you know,
from uh, you know, my previous marriage that I was
(27:46):
watching this show to kind of understand, like what things
I did wrong, what things I would do again? You know,
there is a therapeutic aspect to the show scripted. I know,
it's like, it's only seven weeks. Well he's bursting my
bubble hair. What can I say?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, crash, it's trash.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
There's no folly when I want to But if it were, hey,
if it makes you feel good and it's entertaining, I'm
all for. Oh thanks mommy, yeah, god, mom. Okay, So
what's next?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I think I did write down something my mom said
during this, which was the hairdressing on this show is awful.
I think that's them doing their own hair mom, because
there's not money for hair and makeup on this. Yeah. No,
so there's no budget for that. It's not The Bachelor.
It's kind of funny when you think about it, like
(28:47):
tens of thousands of people probably auditioned for it. Oh
that's what you get?
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Oh yeah, could it just be yeah, yeah, what you're
saying like lots of highlights, too many highlights.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I don't know. It just seemed in some ways bad extensions.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Maybe I don't know, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Well, so the next thing that happened, it was actually Alan.
That's when Alan came back to pick up his car. Yeah,
and he asked asked Juan and Thomas if if Madison
and David had slept in the safe room.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Oh yeah, right, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I was like, really, do you think they would do that?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
You say, he's such a nerd. He's like, I don't
know what. Maybe nerd isn't the right word. No, it
might be. I don't know. He just seems so pathetic. Oh,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I mean he's had his heartbroken so for.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Seven weeks, and I'm sure it probably was like four
weeks in when it was all going down.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
You know what I mean, oh, I think it was
sooner than that.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, so what the hell?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Because I said it.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
That's why she said the fat and that's why I said,
use a dating app. You know. It's like they tried
that and it did and it didn't. They say they
try My gosh, yeah it's bad. Yeah, there's some bad
people out there and they're on the dating apps.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Oh my god, terrible bar.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
And meet somebody like oh yeah, yeah, I know. But
was that always the best way to do it? You
have one thing in common.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
You're polics, yeah or you no, I'm talking well maybe
later on, But I was just saying, thinking maybe friends
of friends, you know, kind of things that have arranged networking.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
No, you meet somebody through somebody. That could be, but
I don't know. It just seems like maybe some friends
real friends, maybe Facebook friends without real friends. Well, actually,
you know, there may be something to that because I
think that, you know, there is a lot of like
(31:14):
Instagram culture and stuff, and I think it's harder to
meet people for people younger now days that maybe it
used to be. Yeah, if you're whatever you're doing, even
in high school or afterwards school and beyond, you know,
you just meet people you know, you just that's what
socialism is. You know, socialization is you're social. That's the
(31:40):
real social world. I think. Yeah, well, and that's how
you meet somebody and have you know, get to know
them really, yeah, in the flesh, even though I know
people don't always tell you the truth, but no, you
get it. You know you can tell they don't. And
that's why the show is like a condensed version of
all that problems, right, because they don't get to they
(32:02):
don't have to. They can't know each other, you know,
So that I get that, and so you do, and
you shouldn't get all broken up about it because it's
it is, yeah, and you know, like if these two
people have chemistry and you don't. You know, that's why
some of them don't stay married because they realize they don't.
(32:25):
And that's the thing about that whole episode or what
happened between Madison and David, is they just should have
waited a minute. One way, they should be one actual Like,
I get it that you're attracted to one another, but
just go along with it, and you know, tell the
social workers or whatever, the little group therapy that they.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Have the experts, they're called experts.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
I don't know why I didn't think that.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I was a real pastor because I could not believe
he kept saying, oh my God, oh my God. I'm like,
why is he saying, oh my god? He's a religious person.
Aren't you not supposed to say, oh my God? If
you're I mean, I mean, that's just myself. I say it.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Listen, the nuns used to catch me doing that all
the time when I was in Catholic school. That's supposedly
taking God's.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Name in vain. I'm like, really, if you're.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
The kid, you know, if you're like paid to be
you know whatever. I just thought it was weird that
that's what he was saying, questioning, you know, how devout
is he? You know whatever. I didn't miss a thing, questioning.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Everything right, right, Okay, okay?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
So now what which what okay? Did is that the
time we.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Saw David's apartment, not yet, not yet, not yet?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Because I want to know, if you noticed Carla's face
when David came into the kitchen.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Everybody's in the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
David came in the kitchen, said he was taking off,
and I don't know, you notice Carla's face. He's going, man,
you know, I just want to apologize to y'all and
and everything. And Carla is going, She's like, oh, really
you're apologized.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I mean it was hilarious to look on her face.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Was like, you don't think Carlo's She was like, people
are wild. People are wild. I was like, they are.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
They are are wild, they are this, this, yeah, this everything.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
It's just it's I.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Mean, I'm glad it's happening because it happen on the
UK and the Australian version all the time. So I'm like,
I'm surprised, that's for sure. Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely get that.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Out there and talk about that, and like you said,
it happens and so people can relate. Yeah, and it
just makes people say, oh, I'm not the only one,
even though, and then they watch eighteen seasons of it
and then they start a podcasting right, wild people are wild.
(35:35):
She's set in trends, Carla. She's a trendsetter.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I like it is she is.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
And she doesn't play. She was like, no, I'm not
gonna like she's she sticked into her guns about this.
She's like and she said to Maddie's married too. She
said to Madison, I don't want women around me, like
you the whole well, who's she did? Crowds married to one?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Okay, Kuan with the Fu Manchu mustache in case you yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
And the wild KP thing that he had some kind
of wild sweatshirt or cape or outfit.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's one.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
That's one.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Uh So, I mean the next conversation was just Pastor
Cow and Michelle.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
When she called past Cow to.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Tell him everything that went down, He's like, wait a minute, what.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And what he had to say was you know, but
I think he already knew. I think all those people
know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, you know, I don't know that the experts know. Yeah,
I know that obviously production knows reality.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
They have to keep something. This is how they script it,
like because we both he was on one. I've been
on reality shows before. Weren't you on the one that
didn't you do that? Were you not the one that
I was on? That one the Style Network where you're
not a guest at that thing? Uhh? That okay? So yeah,
but what they do is they withhold. Yeah, I get
(37:05):
it information. So he probably was just learning about it
at that moment. They tried to withhold as much as
people otherwise it's going to be bad acting, as you.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Say, right right, yeah, yeah yeah, and then and then
you know, they played they played basketball and everything. But
then Alan shows up at Michelle. This is the conversation
Alan shows up at Michelle's apartment.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Uh, that's this is basketball. Huh huh. That's after the
basketball scene.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
That was after the basketball scene.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yep, she liked the basketball scene. Yes, and Carla did
a good job.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yes, Carla did a great job.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
She won. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, they got the they got the guys out first.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah, they were terrible. Yeah. Yeah, So Alan, this is
where he really I think that seems so pathetic is
a strong word, but I think this is about the
time where I asked you a question and she answered me,
I don't know. It's all bullshit. It was getting late,
(38:18):
wasn't it like we're nearing the out? Yeah, we don't.
Oh yeah, watch so many he just gets us commercials.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Oh we had really, man, it.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Was like exhausting. Yeah, commercial every five days, like torturesials
and they would flip them. But it was the same problem.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, information out of me.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
If they just showed that over and over, I'd.
Speaker 8 (38:45):
Be like, I'll tell you where they're at.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Tire stop.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Okay, good, oh joint.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
So this is where they synced up the footage of
their apartments.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Right, Yes, there it.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Was and going. Yes, but there wasn't There wasn't a
David and Madison in the same frame.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
No, it was just them coming home. And listen.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
They may have made it because if you notice, there
wasn't a time stamp on David's side, there was only
the time stamp on Madison's side. But they were showing
them coming in at the same time as though they
had been out together.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah, either out together or both hanging out in his
parents' basement.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Right, or the gym or the gym.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Four hour gym, yeah, yeah, or in the car. They
both have apartments outside of.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
This, so you know, yeah, yeah, in his mom's basement.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Well that's his part. Yeah, I'm not. You know, it happens.
Affordable housing is very difficult, that's right, everywhere, that's right.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Not so much in Chicago though, Oh yes it is, Yes,
it is.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And you know a lot of people live with their families.
My daughter does, my mother does.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
You know, she's trying to save money. They're trying to
save money. Yeah, and I feel like, in like the
suburbs of Chicago, that's actually really common for kids to
live with their parents for a while. I mean, he
is thirty six, so that might be a little isn't
he thirty six? I could be wrong.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, yeah, I think, but he did.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
He moved out, then he moved back in, and during COVID,
I feel like that happened. Yeah, exactly. That happened to
a lot of people. So yeah, I mean he's just
trying to like get back on his feet before. Yeah.
But yeah, I don't know. I don't know why I'm
defending David all of a sudden. I guess I'm defending
the idea of living with your parents. It's not that bad. Yeah,
(41:10):
I'm kind of jealous of Lauren. I wish I could
could live with you guys sometimes for like one day.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah yeah, any relationship.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Okay, So the next conversation was this has to be
the one where David was talking to his friend in
the bar.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Well.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
First, before we move on to that, I just want
to remember the message that Madison sent to Alan while
he was at Michelle's and then his response to her, Well,
it didn't happen. She didn't send it while he was there.
But he but he opened up the message and because
he said, because he was His response was, don't message me, please,
(41:59):
No thing you say holds value anymore.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah. I thought that was good. But he's good. Setting
boundary is good for him. He's kind of dramatic with
all the you know, tearing stuff up, and you know,
I mean, come on, dude in high school or maybe
he is. No, he's well, I think mentally he is.
(42:22):
Socially he is. I mean, I guess, I don't know.
It's a little dramatic for for but it's it's reality TV.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
It is reality TV.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
He burned the vows man.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
He did.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
He did, He burned the vows. He tore the book up.
He broke the missus mugs right up right. Yeah yeah,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
He did.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I don't know, like for him, at least he didn't,
you know later on. Can we jump to something later on?
Because maybe it's like with Madison's friends saying it's psycho behavior.
Do you remember that?
Speaker 3 (43:06):
I do remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, I mean, and then I was kind of like
it kind of actually, I was like, it kind of
is if you think that they've have been married for
seven weeks but yes, I'm sure he had to do
that was in the script, you know, it was he
(43:30):
had to do something.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Maybe maybe oh my god.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Oh my god, Jamie spit takes today.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Yeah, so okay, yeah, so there was that.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Uh and just I'm just gonna briefly mention Camille and
Thomas's matching pajama pants that they left the house in.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yeah. How do you make of those two? I don't know.
It's hard to make what the twist is going to
be there. I don't know. I think I don't keep
strapping the hints that she's not. You know, there's some
things that she first, because they flip flop so much.
You know, at one point in the beginning of the show,
when you saw them together or you know, it seemed
(44:25):
like she was all about getting married and having children
or whatever, and then for the end there she just
wasn't sure about certain things. I don't know. So who
knows could go either way with those two. Yeah. No,
if they probably end up married, it won't last seven
years' wrong. I could be wrong. Maybe he could win
(44:49):
her over. I don't think he's quite won her over
right now, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (44:53):
She has Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
The longer she's been in it too, and that could happen.
You know, the first time you meet it seems great
and then after a few weeks you realize, I'm not
going to say yes. So mom, what is the secret
to being married for fifty years? Well, you really have
to stick it out through the good and the bad,
that's for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And sometimes you know,
(45:20):
what helped with us, I think is that when you
work and you're you're not really together all the time
for like a good portion of your lives because you're
working and that, and so you know, it's different. It's
hard to you would think when you're both retired, because
you're around each other all the time. Like obviously these
(45:43):
people are seven weeks they're together twenty four to seven,
and that's rough too, that's a rough period, and they're
probably long shooting there because when you get married, for real,
you're working and you're gone, you know, eight hours a
day and some times even more than that because your
your schedules.
Speaker 9 (46:03):
Overlap like from eight to you know, five, and somebody
else might work from one to nine or something or
twelve to nine, So you're not really around each other all.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
The time, right, but you know, you just gwrin embar it.
I mean, it ain't pretty and it ain't easy. Yeah,
it's not Camelot all the time, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yeah, yeah, just do it. What is it that Pastor
cal always says marriage marriage? Was he how was he saying? Ah?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
He has a saying that he says marriage as he
doesn't say it's any for pussies.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
But it's kind of like that.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
I mean, yeah, yeah, it's true. It's hard and like really,
when I just said it, I realize, you know, there's
people are around each other twenty four to seven for
eight weeks, and that's you know, who does that?
Speaker 9 (46:55):
Right?
Speaker 2 (46:56):
You know you're not You're I don't think there's still
going out working, you know, and coming back. I don't
think they're doing that.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Sometimes David does sometimes or not.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, I don't think it's the real, you know, real
life kind of thing some of them, because they're not
you know, David, I would think he's living with his mom.
He he doesn't need, you know, to get like a
leave of absence. I'm sure, yeah he didn't. I think
some of them probably do though, Yeah, but I can't
(47:32):
imagine that, you know, just I got to feel that
they're around each other a lot more than really people are.
When they're shooting, they're definitely around each other. And they're
on a set which is also really stressful and along
and there might up the whole time they're on camera
the whole time to be stressed. Oh, it's got to
be so stressful.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah, it's a job. Really for them, it's a job.
You know, it's a it's a thing, but it's a
job too, so additional stress. That's a job that can
ruin their you know, ter assassination their lives. It's cool. Well,
I think you're forgettable, right, I mean, they're not anybody
(48:15):
that you're going to remember. I can barely remember for
the show, the episode, Jamie and I and a few
other people will remember them. Yeah, when you watch it
for eight weeks or something, for three hours.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
I mean, I won't forget this at all.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
I mean this, you.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Know, I know this is special.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yes, this is special, very special, But no, I won't forget.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
I won't.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
I mean, I remember, I remember the couples from the
very first season. Yeah, you know, I've been watching this
for eighteen seasons. Then then as this seasons went on,
everybody gets muddled in my mind, I don't remember who was.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, then they have to have the reunion episodes where
we got oh yeah I remember them. Okay, cool, Yeah,
there are going to be yes. Yes, okay, well you'll
have to tell me who stays. Oh, We're not there yet,
but I'll tell you. Let's move on. I'm not tuning in.
(49:24):
I just.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
I'm surprised you will not continue to watch this. Oh man,
that's madness. Yeah yeah, okay, all right, So can we
(49:51):
get to the conversation where David's.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Talking to his friend in the bar?
Speaker 3 (49:54):
That is where we are at.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Okay, you'n I was dying, dying? I think like you
were mentally sleep Yeah. You were like yeah, I think
I was. She was cooked. Yeah, but do you I
still have a few I still have a few quotes
choice quotes that you said. Remember you were still paying
attention to the show. Yeah. But he was like, so
(50:18):
he's describing why he knows that Madison's the girl for him,
do you remember, And he's going, David, yeah, and he's like,
she works out, Oh okay, and then he's like and
then I look up and she's doing her fantasy football
and then and she plays darts man. I was like, dude,
what the hell. I was like, oh no, yeah, I
(50:42):
like it does That's that is Chicago for you right there.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
I mean he said that, he said corn hole, she
plays bags man, she plays bags right.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
He said he could see himself married to Madison. He
said that out loud on camera.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yes, he did. I heard it.
Speaker 8 (51:05):
I'm just like, dude, I mean, and then that was
the point where you yelled at the camera she ain't
ready to marry you.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, I don't think she is. Yeah, no, they tell
you that because I mean they're done after once they
eight weeks, right, did they give you follow up about
reunion episode?
Speaker 1 (51:33):
Well, yeah, yeah, we'll have follow up.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Yeah, that was probably a few recorded several weeks after
the end of the show, like maybe is recorded like
a couple of months after, so by that time things
let him know before the end of this show, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Yeah. I saw something on Reddit that it was just
and it was December when it was recorded, December twenty three,
because this this all happened in September of twenty twenty three, three.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Months okay, yeah after yeah, laugh that long?
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Right?
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Surprisingly shockingly, Oh my god, I know you'd be shocked
to know that. Okay, not at all. She ain't ready
to marry you, okay. And then after that was another
Jesus commercial My Mart's that down and we started timing them.
That was when we had five minutes and thirty seconds.
It was like, next commercial, which is terrible. Oh, I mean,
(52:33):
come on, man, it's.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Like people, Yeah, yeah, do we have anything else to
say about David and Tommy's conversation? Tommy said to go
for it. Yeah, said go for it.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
If it's love, it's love, man. If it's dark, I love.
Is that just his childhood friend or was he in
the show too that I was a friend?
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Yeah, just a friend. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
We might have seen them before, like at the weddings
or whatever. You see the weddings and everything.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Yeah, it was, you know, And it was right before
this conversation that the that the promo where they all
be home for National Margarite to Day by Choice came
out at the.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
End, so that it was different. I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
I was like, but our restaurants now going to start
sponsoring movies on Lifetime? Is Applebee's going to be sponsoring
that I Want My Baby Back movie?
Speaker 2 (53:31):
It was inside the episode. It was no, it was
a commercial, but we didn't see it. Did you know
they had.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
The little thing in the in the bottom that it kept?
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Remember, because I was so bombarded with those. It's just
like I remember that what everybody sees, you know when
you're watching something like that. But it was busy, you know,
there's different things going on.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Yeah, it's true, it's true. Okay, we have two more
conversations and they were pretty good. For the first one
was M M, E K and the experts.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
Okay, what do you make of that? Who was there?
Just the experts? Or and MM and e K her husband?
When you were like, where's her husband? Oh?
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Right?
Speaker 2 (54:24):
That was weird because I never saw much of them. Yeah,
you didn't. That was the first time because you tracked it.
You were like, where'd she go? Like, because the one
gal was there on the bed talking to Michelle at
the beginning, and she has the funniest faces, a real
heavy eyelash, and she know but she likes she had
the funniest facial expression. Did he eat her? And then
(54:48):
her face? I was like, oh, but she really was
kind of she had that same put on at that
root therapy thing. Too for a while there. Ye, you
put that poud on mm hmm. Yeah, that was weird.
That was weird. I guess that guy didn't last How
(55:08):
many weeks was that before that happened.
Speaker 3 (55:10):
Because it was like four or something like the separate.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Aren't you supposed to at least hang in there for
like eight weeks?
Speaker 3 (55:18):
I mean ideally, yes, you are supposed to.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
It's so bad. I guess they let you feel I guess.
I don't know. It was just weird.
Speaker 3 (55:27):
But but she told him off too.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
Yes, she did. She had like a poem or something,
didn't she that she read?
Speaker 3 (55:33):
Yeah, she read a letter to him.
Speaker 2 (55:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
And then doctor Pia said that was kind of, you know, shady,
and she was like, well, somebody had to say it
to him.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, you know I kind of during that,
I just was like, I kind of understand maybe where
a KG is coming from. If if he feels like
she's really judgmental of him, that could be what, you know,
this where his behavior is coming from, Like if he's
just like feeling judged constantly. I'm not saying she's actually
(56:05):
doing that. I'm just saying he's feeling judged constantly by
her give it up. Well, I just can't believe because
they try and match people, don't they, I mean before that,
because there's a process, and it just seemed like that
was really not a good match from the get go,
because that's who she is. You you can tell she
(56:27):
has attitude, she's going to be like that. Yeah, that's
who she is. So you want someone who can and
so him doing somebody who's just seem like they were
water and oil. You know, I don't know why you
would put those two people together unless you thought they
would help one another. But that didn't work out. No,
(56:49):
they have reasons for why they say they are matching
them during the match making, that just seemed like, yeah,
I guess everybody makes mistakes. They don't all work out right,
And that was a big oh pah mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (57:04):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Well they even liked each other or respected one another, right, you.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
Know, yeah, yeah, it really it fell apart, Yeah, horribly.
Speaker 2 (57:16):
Yeah, I didn't see it even. All I saw was
that and you know.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
Yeah yeah, and then do we have anything else about
mmni kch no, oh I have to.
Speaker 10 (57:29):
I know, I have to check in it. So we're
gonna in ten minutes, but I have to like check in. Okay,
don't worry. Okay, I'm flying Southwest.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
Oh oh yes, okay, okay your twenty four hour check in? Yeah,
for your flight.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Yeah, I'd like to get on. Okay, all right, Well
let's go, Mike get off, all right, let's go. We're
on my heart out here.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
All right.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
Yeah. Conversation.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
So the final conversation, of course, was with the experts
and David and Madison.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
David and Madison, I really oh right where they did
and Madison they were saying, did you guys okay, trying
to get them to talk about whether they right, were
lights them it already or something? Which you know, they
know if they were, or maybe they don't. I mean,
maybe they aren't cameras inside wherever they are, they know
(58:28):
there's something going on because they see people coming and going,
but they claim they didn't. And anyway, it's nobody's business
in my opinion what they're grown adults. I mean, just
because they were married. I mean, the only thing is
they have a contract and they probably should have respected that.
But you said that that's what they're going to show.
(58:50):
They knew somebody knew all this was going down. Yeah,
I think their contract just says they're going to be
on the show. They agree to be on the show.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Right, don't and agree to get married, agree.
Speaker 2 (58:59):
To get married and whatever, and agreed to all those
other terms. But it probably doesn't dictate what you can
or can't do on the show while you're on it.
And you can't help it if they sparks really flew
or whatever, if there was some kind of attraction that
happens on sets all the time. So yeah, we'll look
at actors, yeah, real movies and things or crew members
(59:24):
and stuff like. Also, like there's been things where they're
one of the experts, the sex expert, and I still
don't they say there there wasn't anything, then drop it,
you know. Yeah, it sounded I didn't like that that
they were like really trying to prod into their privacy.
I believe in privacy if you are on film, and
(59:46):
there's certainly that you know. All I know is that
there must have been a reference where she said she
was going to try to reach out to Alan again. Oh,
I think that's right, wasn't there There had to have
been oh yes comment. I thought that was because that's
when you yelled at the TV leave the guy alone.
Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Because you said leave me alone, I want to talk
to you. She's like, I think you're going to reach
out again. God, maybe I Trader Joes.
Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Did you When Pastor cal like called out, Madison was like,
if you met David just out and you know, out somewhere,
you wouldn't have even thought about him because he's a
person of color. And you said you didn't want to
you know, a person of color.
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Well, I mean that's kind of a I don't know,
that's kind of a silly one to get somebody on.
I think, to be like just because they haven't maybe
dated that well.
Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
And she did.
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
And obviously when they build out the questionnaire something, they
probably asked that sort of thing and she probably said
that she wanted a Caucasian partner.
Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
You know she did. Did you see the the I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Think that I personally don't think that you can hold
somebody to that. I think that that's again, I'm sure
they're trying to match people up, but if it's something
like a physical attraction, and yeah, if it's just on
the street, you're not in close quarters or anything, but
being on the set with these people and that is
(01:01:41):
what attracted you to each other. You know, it's kind
of hard to call her up on that. I think
that's what you're saying too. Yeah, I don't know what
he's saying. Hey, I gotta go.
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
I know, yeah, I mean I I yeah, I just
thought that, you know, hey, people are racist.
Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
This is America's racism, isn't And that's just it's you know,
we're lying, all of us if we don't admit it,
because it is. It's unfortunate. You know. I wish I
wasn't either, and I'm you know, I try not to be,
but everybody has don't say anything racist right now. I
(01:02:21):
consider myself, I consider myself not, but I'd be lying
if I think everybody is.
Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I think everyone a little bit racist.
Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Times we're just knocking asshole comedians. That just made a
joke out of your point, I know, but I know
by your point. I wish you know, in a perfect
America is racist?
Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
The massage to massage?
Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Yes, absolutely obic?
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
And this this is the last thing I'm going to
say that you said while we were watching this, and
then you can go check in. Uh she said I
didn't want to hurt him, and you go too late.
Oh my god, Mom, go so real, Can we ask
for those questions real quick?
Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
So yeah, so okay, so we're gonna get get.
Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Your okay, go ahead, hurry up quick.
Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Yes, we just we just want to see who.
Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Have four minutes? Okay, who you can?
Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
It's okay to check in after the twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
It's okay. No, no, no, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
So anyway, So anyway, so I'm just gonna quickly say,
after eight weeks, these people have to decide whether or
not they're going to stay married or get a divorce.
And they're gonna go in front of the experts and
they're gonna ask them, do you want to stay married?
Do you want to get a divorce? And one says yes,
the other says no, they get a divorce. So okay,
So we only really have two couples that I need
(01:04:02):
to ask you about. One is Camille and Thomas. Do
you think they will say.
Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Yes or no on decision day? I say no, okay.
And then who's.
Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
The other couple that's together, Oh, Carla and Wand.
Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
That's a tough one, but I would say no. But
if they do, I can't see it. I don't know.
I don't know, Okay, that one, and we got because
they didn't really I only saw one episode and I
didn't really see you know, them interact for someone who
has to check in, all right, and we already got
(01:04:42):
your answer that you are not going to continue to
watch the show, all right, especially I see I'm going
to be kissed. Okay, all right, thank.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
You, Jamie, thank you. Oh my gosh, that was high hilarious.
And you didn't think she would be that great of
a guess you're still recording, yes, I know, to do
(01:05:17):
that great of a guest. So do you have anything
to plug?
Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
She hate it so so much.
Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
I mean our monthly Birthquake show is March eighth. Every
second Saturday of the month, we do a comedy show, Earthquake.
Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Do you have anything to plug?
Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Well I am. I am starting to teach a stand
up comedy class, yes, and that will be at Thursdays
at six pm in March. Thursdays in March, So if
anyone wants to sign up, we're gonna have a lot
of fun yay on an actual show like Mirthquake.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Yeah great, all right, Well, thanks Slummer's mom Louise for
being on the show.
Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
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Welcome to madd and Finally Single.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Jamie Black, I'm Summer Austin, and I'm Skyler Fast Jokes.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And this is a meredithirs I fan podcast where we
invite a guest on who's never watched an episode. Hey,
every ready, welcome to another episode of Madden Finally Single.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We have a very special guest today.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I'm very excited.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yes we do. I guess I'll introduce her. I didn't
ask how you wanted to be introduced that fine, Oh
it's my mom. Yay, okay, thank you. Yes, Louise Austin.
Do you have anything can you tell us about yourself?
I'm a retired middle school teacher, yes, and I live
(00:53):
in Florida, Day, Florida, and uh yeah, so I'm visiting
you and I was married for fifty years.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You are, I'm gonna say you are.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I'm like, what what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
What?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
She watched the show and now she wants to get
a divorce.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'm married for fifty years. I have two beautiful daughters. Really,
thank you, thank you mom.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Well, and and you do know that that Summer and
I got fake married last year. So so you she's
my comedy husband. Yeah, yeah, So so this is all
in the family today.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yes, sure, I'm getting kind of used to that. And okay,
so Mom, you don't really watch a lot of reality TV. Dude,
I know you've never seen this show before. What do
you do you.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Work America, American Idol American?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I don't. I'll watch it from time to Are you
a fan of Ryan Seacrest? I love I love Ryan
Seacrest because I watch Real of Fortune. I listen to
him every morning I'm kissing. I think he's yeah, it's great. Yeah,
I think he's cute. Yeah, he's all right. Can I
(02:21):
keep hoping one day here I bump into him? Maybe
I doubt it, but I think if I started bing more,
I might run into bikes a lot. Yes. Okay, So
to this episode, Jamie, where do we want to get started?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well, we'll start with Michelle and Madison because that was
the first conversation.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And just and and first of all, what are your thoughts?
That's so long? I just think I hold anything back.
I just think it's you know, just I think reality
TV is scripted. I don't really think it's real, you know,
but it's entertaining. Obviously you guys like it. But I
(03:06):
just I don't know, I can find better ways. I'd
rather read, okay, or a movie or you know, yeah,
because it's kind of silly, it's yeah, but it's okay.
I don't want to, you know, disrespect yours. It's very nice.
I mean, I didn't realize it was so that people
(03:27):
really like that. Oh yeah, seas, I get it. I
get what do you get about it that people like
these are different cultures, different and people like that sort
of thing. Oh okay, you know, you know, I just
never watched a lot of TV. I guess. Yeah, I
(03:49):
was always working. Yeah that's true. That's fine. You don't
have to watch it, but you have to watch it
for this one. Yeah, so these are conversations we're breaking
it up.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Into because that's what they had.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, the one chick. You know, it's just like weird
that but I get it. It's like a temporary mayor
or of spontaneous marriage. I guess you guys would get that.
But it just seems so so crazy. You know, seven
weeks and I only saw one episode, but it was
(04:22):
way too drama dramatic, Yeah, too much drama. Yeah, I
don't know, silly, silly. Do you think there's drama marriages.
Oh yeah, probably, I guess.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
There's definitely drama in these marriages.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, and it's all crammed into like, you know, like
a marriage. When I think of a marriage, you know,
it's definitely longer than seven weeks. Well they're suppose they
might be married longer than seven weeks, but they aren't
at the moment. They're only there. You know, they even
just met each other weeks ago, So it seems like
(04:56):
quite a lot of I don't know. I don't even
remember them, Michelle, what happened you remember? I do? I
remember they were like one met the other in the
bathroom and accuse the you know, I guess the one
Gal and the other girl's husband they fell in love,
(05:16):
or you know, they liked each other better than the other.
I don't know they're in love. I think that one
Gal Madison, she is Madison, the one that stole the
husband or was with the husband or whatever. She I
think she's she doesn't like him as much as he
likes her.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Oh yeah, no, for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So there's another drama. You guys will be front rows
for us, So I remember that.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, no, And but David kept betting into the conversation.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Because they were doing it. Where was that? But I
guess it was there bathroom. I don't know, there was
that whole resort, that retreat, and that was to me, you.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Know, could you did you? So every now and then
they would do a camera shot that was there was
from the point of point of view of the house,
and there was a business across the street with a
green sign and I could never read what that sign.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Said, Perseverance or something. Really, I didn't, oh.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Was that what it was?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, because I was trying to figure out where that
house is in north Brook.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You could look up. I thought it said Perseverance Big Okay,
maybe Apence Northbrook, Illinois. I see what comes up?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, your computer right there.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
But I thought that's what it said. I you know,
I was looking at it too. I don't know if
that was like the name of the property or what.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, I didn't think, yes, Perseverance Ministries, Northbrook, Illinois.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Industry Church, Megachurch. We were so there might be something
going on here because we watched it on Lifetime, can
I say that? And every five minutes there was a
commercial about God loving us, so Jesus, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Really he gets us.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
We must have watched it, like and so that kind
of spoiled it too, you know, every five minutes we
timed it. Yeah, I was like, there's so many flipping
commercials and they were for a long time. It was
this Jesus gets us, he gets it, or he gets us. Yeah,
like an hour and a half it seemed like that.
(07:41):
Then all of a sudden, it was a different series
of commercials, like a car, like some kind of car insurance.
I don't know, but we were already oh yeah, it
was the new like but it was like the Siri
inside the car, yeah car. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I don't know if you speaking of commercials since we're
talking about commercials.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I don't e g.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Commercial, the ADT commercial.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Oh yes, No, I'm gonna get to that. No, I'm
talking about an actual, an actual commercial. I don't know
if you noticed. It was a It was a promo
and a preview of an upcoming movie called I'll Be
Home for National Margarite Today, and it is presented by Chili's.
And I thought it was I thought it was fake.
(08:31):
But it's an actual movie, is it really? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I wasn't paying attention to that.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I was like, what Chili's is sponsoring a movie called
I'll be Home for National Margarite Today.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I must speak. That's is wild talk with the ultimate
product placement. But the AD two.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Guess who's in it?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
He Diggs is in it?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Really? Yes, funny, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Weird, it's good.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, okay, anyway, yes, now the ADT commercial Thomas, I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I lost my mind. What is happening? And what did
she say? Well, I'm just so glad that ADT was
protecting the from what from? From from? I'm so confusing,
Maybe because because remember they showed the date like the
ringcam or something right right, Actually, that would be a
(09:32):
better product placement. They'd be like, well, I was looking
at the ring cam last night. Yeah, I know, so
that ADT installed. Thank goodness those were here. I wouldn't
to know how that got destroyed. That would be a much.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Better That was cracking me up.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
My god, that was so weird. I just wrote down
the whole time. It seemed to go on forever. How
you know, five minutes there's a Ruschel, you know. I
just wrote down things that my mom said during this,
which was you said, this looks like a poor acting
job from everyone yeah, and it just looks like a
(10:11):
bad soap opera, you said. And then thirty five minutes
and she said, is it over?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
No, there's six hours to go. Okay, oh my god, god.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, sorry for making almost You're much more fun than
watching that, I'll tell you. And then she said, you
think they've been married twenty years? Right, you know whatever,
they weren't even it just seemed crazy to me. And
you said something about you said something about Oh my god,
this is what she said about math. This is terrible.
She goes about Alan, she goes, she goes, well he's
(10:55):
getting bald. That other guy is a full head of hair.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Well, I mean, she's got a point.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
She seems kind of shallow to me, so who knows.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's only been seven weeks.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, yeah, like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I don't buy it for that. That whole thing just
like well that was when you yelled at the TV
and you said it's only been seven fighters. They're acting
like it's been seven years.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean listen, I'm not I'm not
again not mad at Madison or David for you know,
I mean, it's just but this but this is classic.
Why people have affairs. This is exactly why people have affairs.
(11:54):
When you feel like you're not getting what you need
at home, you then start looking for it elsewhere. Yeah,
and I get it that that's not the right thing
to do, but but you know.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
The thing is is I think they have a contract
and they shouldn't have. They could have waited I thought
seven weeks, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
You know, yeah, no, I'm not saying that right now.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
They could have waited just one week, yeah, because there's
only one more week to go. But they had already
I think, been you know, oh yeah, probably for a
couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, that minute, right.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
No, even though last episode they just said to stage
a scene where Madison like this is where like, I
don't this is. I don't think the producer staged it.
I think that like Madison and David staged it. And
that's even worse, where she was like I just want
to say I have feelings for you and he was
like oh really, and then he was like that text
(12:48):
message that I said that he was that had gotten
found out, he gotten found out about it was meant
for you, And she was like what no, bad acting. Yes,
but that was on a different one, right, I didn't
see you didn't do that one.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, no, that was on the last episode.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
That was that was when we knew that, Well, Madison
and David are not on here for acting gigs.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
But I guess, like you were saying, they just presented.
You know how something like that can happen, like you
were saying.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
You know, yeah, I'm just you know, I've been saying
it for years. I'm like, listen, people have affairs because
whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
They're not getting at home.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
They're looking for elsewhere instead of having a conversation with
their spouse and say, hey, you know I really need
this from you or what especially.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So early in and with that, you know, you think
and you're not like really that connected. Well, they're just
there to be on a show probably you know what
I mean, and that you would take it to the
next level. They're trying to find people really want to
be married. But like you know, thousands and thousands of
people apply for the show sometimes like maybe not ten
(14:04):
or is it like ten thousand people could be on it.
I mean obviously they somebody knew. Somebody knew from the
get go. They were happy. Nobody's doing anything that somebody
doesn't know about because it's a set. The whole thing
is a set, exactly true. The only people that don't
(14:26):
know are people like you, you know, but you can
predict yeah, because it's so predictable. Yeah, you know, it's true.
Everybody else everything. Because they're trying to show you in
two weeks probably or eight how many weeks do they
have to be married?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, So I'm just trying to show you probably a
bunch of different things that can happen in a marriage
during that time, you know, yeah, I would imagine, but
they do it over and over, right, yes, but this
is the first what they show different kinds of scenarios.
This is the first time though that one that a
couple's ever switched or swapped. Somebody swapped with one because you.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Know the American version, well yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
The American version. Yeah, but they had to put it
in there some way, sooner or later, I would think,
because that's just one of the it happens, and it is. Yeah,
I think that's what they do. But nothing on that
show didn't get by somebody when it first when the
sparks first started to fly. So wow, but it's hard
(15:33):
to you know, take it seriously. Yeah, which conversation is next, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Did David and Juan conversation in the kitchen?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Oh? Yeah, that was weird. What happened weird? The one
guy tries to talk to his buddy there.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, he was saying, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I think I wrote down something about this where it
was like she was he was saying, like she works out.
Russey saying David was listening all the things that he
was had in common with her. He was like, she
works out. I look up Man and the girls like
two in her fantasy football.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I was like, right, oh, that was no. That is
the conversation with Tommy at the bar with David's No,
I'm talking about when one and when Wan was like.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
When they're in there making coffee in the morning, and
I guess and I didn't know his name, but he
was being weird because at first he started to be
kind of cool about it, and then all of a
sudden he was weird. I thought, what did you think, Genie?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, he was, well, I mean, you know, he told
David He's like, he's like, dude, you know, you're starting
out on a bad note. You know, how where's the
where's the trust going to be? In this relationship. You
all dipped out, you know, behind your spouses and everything.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
So that was had a testimonial of Carla and she
was like, no, that was later. That was because it
was just the two guys in there for a while. Okay,
yeah yeah, but then near the end of their conversation,
it's that one can't have anything to do with David
(17:19):
because of it, and it's.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Like, oh that that was Thomas. Thomas was like, I
can't be team David anymore. It's like I have to
be team Michelle because this is.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yes, yeah, like Survivor.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Well they are going to be going to NBC.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Next right, so they are they are, So maybe they
had to I don't know. Maybe they had they had to,
like I don't know, get the drama up or something
for Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I mean I bet the NBC was like, look, if
you are coming over here, it's got to be better. Yeah,
writers and stuff. I don't know, Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, are they have better sets? I thought that
are there writers on reality TV? Do they have a
writer's room officially? I don't think they do.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I don't think they have a writer's room, but there
are writers on reality shows?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, yeah, and they are actors on reality shows. I
know she's saying they're all bad. I'm like, they're not actors,
but well they want to be. Think they all want
to be. Oh definitely. You don't think anybody on here
is actually there to find love? Oh love of come on,
but I mean maybe like that one guy. It was believable,
(18:45):
that Alan name that he was. You know, I think
he acted like he can't get a girl any other
way or something. At this point, she said, go to
a normal people. I mean, really, you don't have to
(19:06):
go on a show like that for real love. Really,
I mean, come on, mom, it is out there on
these streets for some people.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
You have.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You haven't been single for fifty years. Yeah, well I'll
tell you it's not all. It's cracked up. What what
you may get married to dad is sometimes not Oh
my god, I'm sure it's the same. Yes, marriages have
(19:36):
their ups and Downs's very true.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
They do. They do.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Okay, So the next conversation was Madison, Well it was David.
David and Madison had a conversation before.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
She took off.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Oh yeah, in the bedroom.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
In the bedroom, yeah, what they say.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
They were kind of saying goodbye or something kind of.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I don't yeah, because Madison was leaving, uh because the
tension in the house and everything, and so she's like, yeah,
I'm gonna take off and.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
And everybody's business. Oh right, I just confused Madison. Sorry,
I was like, where was the David Michelle conversation? Okay?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And they they hugged, you know, I know, like they've
never kissed before. Yeah, they were hugging, like they've never kissed.
I'm like, please, you all have kissed.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Is this when they showed the security footage of Madison
and David's apartments syncing up?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
No, that was that was when Alan and Michelle were
talking in Michelle's apartment.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Oh right, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, No, this was just the This was just the
you know, he went into the bedroom and the Madison's
or she went into his bedroom or whatever. I don't
know which one it was. But she was saying goodbye
because she was leaving.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
That was much you thought.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Looked cheap, you know, oh whatever walls or whatever that was.
She hated the decorps. Oh well, quick remodel inside that.
The outside looked great, but the inside, well, I mean
they do have to have like twelve bedrooms or something
in this house. So they probably were just probably.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
They had to find a large house for everyone, and
it's not everyone sleeping together.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
They had that extra bedroom, right and.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You got everything else. Yeah, I don't know. They're probably
not staying there overnight. I guess you don't think somebody
isn't who or there's a camera. Do you think that
they their production Yeah, that stays with them overnight, or
do they stay like at a hotel nearby? Oh I
(21:46):
feel I feel like they're probably hotels the night and
leave them to their own devices.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
For the night, or they go home because the production
are probably from Chicago.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Okay, yeah, they probably just go home.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, yeah, because why pay for why why pay for
hotels for people that live in the area.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Maybe someone's stating there if they but I think they
probably have cameras. People have to go home and go
to sleep. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Oh, they definitely have cameras.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Oh yeah, they have cameras. And then yeah, so but
somebody the cameras tell you everything, so.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
They know cameras don't lie.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Okay, So the next conversation was Madison, Carla, and Camille.
When Madison sat Carla and Camille down to tell them.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Okay, okay, now you can talk about Carla. Oh, Carla's girl.
I don't know. You don't like Carla too much? What
do you like about her? I don't know. It just
seemed like it was so put on. Really, she seemed
like she was acting dumb. Well like I'm from Stardust
(23:06):
and crystals and I'm gonna put my crystals in my
Yoni egg inside of me, and she's very into that.
But I think that's actually her I was. I don't
think she was shooting baskets, to tell you the truth.
But I don't know if that was all edited either.
But you know, the girls shooting basketball, that was the
highlight of the whole show. If yes, maybe a little
(23:28):
bit of sports.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Okay, all right, that's reality TV.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, when do you think about it? Yes, but I
don't think they, you know, edit and stuff like that.
Like I suspect, right, I don't believe anything on these
reality shows, sure, because I think they can be edited
and well, other things are live, you know what I mean,
different than I would love to see a live reality
TV show, right brother or something. But even that, I
(23:59):
don't think it. I don't think you could find anything
that's really live that especially if you have a production
crew and it goes on over days and weeks. You know,
there's no way. Yeah, it's true. You know, just even
doing this, you know you want to sit in a
certain spun and you know, yeah, there's even a little
bit of production involved in this.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yes, there is.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
That's true. I'm very impressed that you're thinking about all
the production elements.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, because yeah, because we talk about it all the time.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Oh yeah, we love it.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
We love yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, you know there there's a couple of well I
was bringing this up in my class that I teach too,
and a lot of my students are like, have you
seen Unreal? Have you seen that one?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Real? It's a it's a scripted show about a reality production,
reality TV show production crew.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Really Yeah, it's good. I bet it's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
It's hilarious. They're like on like a Bachelor type show.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Nice, Okay, I will need to check.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
On the producers. You haven't watch any of those reality
shows like Bachelor? No, yeah, we like we like a
love reality program, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You and I mm hmmm, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Love is Blind too, which is another one. I actually
like them. Maybe not more.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Sometimes I get sick of love is blind but married
at first. I just keep coming back to it. So
she asked us why we like this show before. She
asked before we logged on. So I thought this would
be a good time for us to answer that question, Jamie,
because my mom just doesn't get it.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Well. I mean, for me, I'm fascinated by this idea
of arranged marriages and the and the level of effort
that a lot of them put into these arranged marriages,
more so than my ex wife put into our marriage.
(26:09):
Uh So it's just I don't know, it's just it's
fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I just, oh good. I was gonna say you should
probably you know, because they're in real life there are
arranged marriages, and you know, I'm talking culturally right, how
some cultures have that and you know how they adapt.
There's also a reality show about that too, The Indian Matchmaker.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I have not watched it yet.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
It's good. Sometimes you know, those can be a little
bit put on too, but you know, yeah, then there's
also one about an American matchmaker. There was a show
an American matchmaker as well. She was like she had
like a big personality, but also Jamie, his ex wife
on a reality dating Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
So yes, a dating story that was on the Learning
Channel back in the early aughts.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
How long were you married?
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Eight and a half years?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Okay, that's that's pretty good track record for a dating
reality show.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Well, yeah, but it was about four years too long.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, yeah, forget that. Yeah, you know it's not easy, Jamie,
it's but also I feel like I feel like when
I was getting divorced, I feel like I, you know,
from uh, you know, my previous marriage that I was
(27:46):
watching this show to kind of understand, like what things
I did wrong, what things I would do again? You know,
there is a therapeutic aspect to the show scripted. I know,
it's like, it's only seven weeks. Well he's bursting my
bubble hair. What can I say?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, crash, it's trash.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
There's no folly when I want to But if it were, hey,
if it makes you feel good and it's entertaining, I'm
all for. Oh thanks mommy, yeah, god, mom. Okay, So
what's next?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I think I did write down something my mom said
during this, which was the hairdressing on this show is awful.
I think that's them doing their own hair mom, because
there's not money for hair and makeup on this. Yeah. No,
so there's no budget for that. It's not The Bachelor.
It's kind of funny when you think about it, like
(28:47):
tens of thousands of people probably auditioned for it. Oh
that's what you get?
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Oh yeah, could it just be yeah, yeah, what you're
saying like lots of highlights, too many highlights.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I don't know. It just seemed in some ways bad extensions.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Maybe I don't know, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Well, so the next thing that happened, it was actually Alan.
That's when Alan came back to pick up his car. Yeah,
and he asked asked Juan and Thomas if if Madison
and David had slept in the safe room.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Oh yeah, right, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I was like, really, do you think they would do that?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
You say, he's such a nerd. He's like, I don't
know what. Maybe nerd isn't the right word. No, it
might be. I don't know. He just seems so pathetic. Oh,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I mean he's had his heartbroken so for.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Seven weeks, and I'm sure it probably was like four
weeks in when it was all going down.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
You know what I mean, oh, I think it was
sooner than that.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, so what the hell?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Because I said it.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
That's why she said the fat and that's why I said,
use a dating app. You know. It's like they tried
that and it did and it didn't. They say they
try My gosh, yeah it's bad. Yeah, there's some bad
people out there and they're on the dating apps.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Oh my god, terrible bar.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
And meet somebody like oh yeah, yeah, I know. But
was that always the best way to do it? You
have one thing in common.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
You're polics, yeah or you no, I'm talking well maybe
later on, But I was just saying, thinking maybe friends
of friends, you know, kind of things that have arranged networking.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
No, you meet somebody through somebody. That could be, but
I don't know. It just seems like maybe some friends
real friends, maybe Facebook friends without real friends. Well, actually,
you know, there may be something to that because I
think that, you know, there is a lot of like
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Instagram culture and stuff, and I think it's harder to
meet people for people younger now days that maybe it
used to be. Yeah, if you're whatever you're doing, even
in high school or afterwards school and beyond, you know,
you just meet people you know, you just that's what
socialism is. You know, socialization is you're social. That's the
(31:40):
real social world. I think. Yeah, well, and that's how
you meet somebody and have you know, get to know
them really, yeah, in the flesh, even though I know
people don't always tell you the truth, but no, you
get it. You know you can tell they don't. And
that's why the show is like a condensed version of
all that problems, right, because they don't get to they
(32:02):
don't have to. They can't know each other, you know,
So that I get that, and so you do, and
you shouldn't get all broken up about it because it's
it is, yeah, and you know, like if these two
people have chemistry and you don't. You know, that's why
some of them don't stay married because they realize they don't.
(32:25):
And that's the thing about that whole episode or what
happened between Madison and David, is they just should have
waited a minute. One way, they should be one actual Like,
I get it that you're attracted to one another, but
just go along with it, and you know, tell the
social workers or whatever, the little group therapy that they.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Have the experts, they're called experts.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
I don't know why I didn't think that.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I was a real pastor because I could not believe
he kept saying, oh my God, oh my God. I'm like,
why is he saying, oh my god? He's a religious person.
Aren't you not supposed to say, oh my God? If
you're I mean, I mean, that's just myself. I say it.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Listen, the nuns used to catch me doing that all
the time when I was in Catholic school. That's supposedly
taking God's.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Name in vain. I'm like, really, if you're.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
The kid, you know, if you're like paid to be
you know whatever. I just thought it was weird that
that's what he was saying, questioning, you know, how devout
is he? You know whatever. I didn't miss a thing, questioning.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Everything right, right, Okay, okay?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
So now what which what okay? Did is that the
time we.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Saw David's apartment, not yet, not yet, not yet?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Because I want to know, if you noticed Carla's face
when David came into the kitchen.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Everybody's in the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
David came in the kitchen, said he was taking off,
and I don't know, you notice Carla's face. He's going, man,
you know, I just want to apologize to y'all and
and everything. And Carla is going, She's like, oh, really
you're apologized.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I mean it was hilarious to look on her face.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Was like, you don't think Carlo's She was like, people
are wild. People are wild. I was like, they are.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
They are are wild, they are this, this, yeah, this everything.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
It's just it's I.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Mean, I'm glad it's happening because it happen on the
UK and the Australian version all the time. So I'm like,
I'm surprised, that's for sure. Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely get that.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Out there and talk about that, and like you said,
it happens and so people can relate. Yeah, and it
just makes people say, oh, I'm not the only one,
even though, and then they watch eighteen seasons of it
and then they start a podcasting right, wild people are wild.
(35:35):
She's set in trends, Carla. She's a trendsetter.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I like it is she is.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
And she doesn't play. She was like, no, I'm not
gonna like she's she sticked into her guns about this.
She's like and she said to Maddie's married too. She
said to Madison, I don't want women around me, like
you the whole well, who's she did? Crowds married to one?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Okay, Kuan with the Fu Manchu mustache in case you yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
And the wild KP thing that he had some kind
of wild sweatshirt or cape or outfit.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's one.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
That's one.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Uh So, I mean the next conversation was just Pastor
Cow and Michelle.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
When she called past Cow to.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Tell him everything that went down, He's like, wait a minute, what.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And what he had to say was you know, but
I think he already knew. I think all those people
know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, you know, I don't know that the experts know. Yeah,
I know that obviously production knows reality.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
They have to keep something. This is how they script it,
like because we both he was on one. I've been
on reality shows before. Weren't you on the one that
didn't you do that? Were you not the one that
I was on? That one the Style Network where you're
not a guest at that thing? Uhh? That okay? So yeah,
but what they do is they withhold. Yeah, I get
(37:05):
it information. So he probably was just learning about it
at that moment. They tried to withhold as much as
people otherwise it's going to be bad acting, as you.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Say, right right, yeah, yeah yeah, and then and then
you know, they played they played basketball and everything. But
then Alan shows up at Michelle. This is the conversation
Alan shows up at Michelle's apartment.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Uh, that's this is basketball. Huh huh. That's after the
basketball scene.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
That was after the basketball scene.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yep, she liked the basketball scene. Yes, and Carla did
a good job.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yes, Carla did a great job.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
She won. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, they got the they got the guys out first.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah, they were terrible. Yeah. Yeah, So Alan, this is
where he really I think that seems so pathetic is
a strong word, but I think this is about the
time where I asked you a question and she answered me,
I don't know. It's all bullshit. It was getting late,
(38:18):
wasn't it like we're nearing the out? Yeah, we don't.
Oh yeah, watch so many he just gets us commercials.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Oh we had really, man, it.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Was like exhausting. Yeah, commercial every five days, like torturesials
and they would flip them. But it was the same problem.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, information out of me.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
If they just showed that over and over, I'd.
Speaker 8 (38:45):
Be like, I'll tell you where they're at.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Tire stop.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Okay, good, oh joint.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
So this is where they synced up the footage of
their apartments.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Right, Yes, there it.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Was and going. Yes, but there wasn't There wasn't a
David and Madison in the same frame.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
No, it was just them coming home. And listen.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
They may have made it because if you notice, there
wasn't a time stamp on David's side, there was only
the time stamp on Madison's side. But they were showing
them coming in at the same time as though they
had been out together.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah, either out together or both hanging out in his
parents' basement.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Right, or the gym or the gym.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Four hour gym, yeah, yeah, or in the car. They
both have apartments outside of.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
This, so you know, yeah, yeah, in his mom's basement.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Well that's his part. Yeah, I'm not. You know, it happens.
Affordable housing is very difficult, that's right, everywhere, that's right.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Not so much in Chicago though, Oh yes it is, Yes,
it is.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And you know a lot of people live with their families.
My daughter does, my mother does.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
You know, she's trying to save money. They're trying to
save money. Yeah, and I feel like, in like the
suburbs of Chicago, that's actually really common for kids to
live with their parents for a while. I mean, he
is thirty six, so that might be a little isn't
he thirty six? I could be wrong.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, yeah, I think, but he did.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
He moved out, then he moved back in, and during COVID,
I feel like that happened. Yeah, exactly. That happened to
a lot of people. So yeah, I mean he's just
trying to like get back on his feet before. Yeah.
But yeah, I don't know. I don't know why I'm
defending David all of a sudden. I guess I'm defending
the idea of living with your parents. It's not that bad. Yeah,
(41:10):
I'm kind of jealous of Lauren. I wish I could
could live with you guys sometimes for like one day.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah yeah, any relationship.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Okay, So the next conversation was this has to be
the one where David was talking to his friend in
the bar.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Well.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
First, before we move on to that, I just want
to remember the message that Madison sent to Alan while
he was at Michelle's and then his response to her, Well,
it didn't happen. She didn't send it while he was there.
But he but he opened up the message and because
he said, because he was His response was, don't message me, please,
(41:59):
No thing you say holds value anymore.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah. I thought that was good. But he's good. Setting
boundary is good for him. He's kind of dramatic with
all the you know, tearing stuff up, and you know,
I mean, come on, dude in high school or maybe
he is. No, he's well, I think mentally he is.
(42:22):
Socially he is. I mean, I guess, I don't know.
It's a little dramatic for for but it's it's reality TV.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
It is reality TV.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
He burned the vows man.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
He did.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
He did, He burned the vows. He tore the book up.
He broke the missus mugs right up right. Yeah yeah,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
He did.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I don't know, like for him, at least he didn't,
you know later on. Can we jump to something later on?
Because maybe it's like with Madison's friends saying it's psycho behavior.
Do you remember that?
Speaker 3 (43:06):
I do remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, I mean, and then I was kind of like
it kind of actually, I was like, it kind of
is if you think that they've have been married for
seven weeks but yes, I'm sure he had to do
that was in the script, you know, it was he
(43:30):
had to do something.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Maybe maybe oh my god.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Oh my god, Jamie spit takes today.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Yeah, so okay, yeah, so there was that.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Uh and just I'm just gonna briefly mention Camille and
Thomas's matching pajama pants that they left the house in.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yeah. How do you make of those two? I don't know.
It's hard to make what the twist is going to
be there. I don't know. I think I don't keep
strapping the hints that she's not. You know, there's some
things that she first, because they flip flop so much.
You know, at one point in the beginning of the show,
when you saw them together or you know, it seemed
(44:25):
like she was all about getting married and having children
or whatever, and then for the end there she just
wasn't sure about certain things. I don't know. So who
knows could go either way with those two. Yeah. No,
if they probably end up married, it won't last seven
years' wrong. I could be wrong. Maybe he could win
(44:49):
her over. I don't think he's quite won her over
right now, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (44:53):
She has Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
The longer she's been in it too, and that could happen.
You know, the first time you meet it seems great
and then after a few weeks you realize, I'm not
going to say yes. So mom, what is the secret
to being married for fifty years? Well, you really have
to stick it out through the good and the bad,
that's for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And sometimes you know,
(45:20):
what helped with us, I think is that when you
work and you're you're not really together all the time
for like a good portion of your lives because you're
working and that, and so you know, it's different. It's
hard to you would think when you're both retired, because
you're around each other all the time. Like obviously these
(45:43):
people are seven weeks they're together twenty four to seven,
and that's rough too, that's a rough period, and they're
probably long shooting there because when you get married, for real,
you're working and you're gone, you know, eight hours a
day and some times even more than that because your
your schedules.
Speaker 9 (46:03):
Overlap like from eight to you know, five, and somebody
else might work from one to nine or something or
twelve to nine, So you're not really around each other all.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
The time, right, but you know, you just gwrin embar it.
I mean, it ain't pretty and it ain't easy. Yeah,
it's not Camelot all the time, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yeah, yeah, just do it. What is it that Pastor
cal always says marriage marriage? Was he how was he saying? Ah?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
He has a saying that he says marriage as he
doesn't say it's any for pussies.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
But it's kind of like that.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
I mean, yeah, yeah, it's true. It's hard and like really,
when I just said it, I realize, you know, there's
people are around each other twenty four to seven for
eight weeks, and that's you know, who does that?
Speaker 9 (46:55):
Right?
Speaker 2 (46:56):
You know you're not You're I don't think there's still
going out working, you know, and coming back. I don't
think they're doing that.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Sometimes David does sometimes or not.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, I don't think it's the real, you know, real
life kind of thing some of them, because they're not
you know, David, I would think he's living with his mom.
He he doesn't need, you know, to get like a
leave of absence. I'm sure, yeah he didn't. I think
some of them probably do though, Yeah, but I can't
(47:32):
imagine that, you know, just I got to feel that
they're around each other a lot more than really people are.
When they're shooting, they're definitely around each other. And they're
on a set which is also really stressful and along
and there might up the whole time they're on camera
the whole time to be stressed. Oh, it's got to
be so stressful.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah, it's a job. Really for them, it's a job.
You know, it's a it's a thing, but it's a
job too, so additional stress. That's a job that can
ruin their you know, ter assassination their lives. It's cool. Well,
I think you're forgettable, right, I mean, they're not anybody
(48:15):
that you're going to remember. I can barely remember for
the show, the episode, Jamie and I and a few
other people will remember them. Yeah, when you watch it
for eight weeks or something, for three hours.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
I mean, I won't forget this at all.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
I mean this, you.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Know, I know this is special.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yes, this is special, very special, But no, I won't forget.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
I won't.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
I mean, I remember, I remember the couples from the
very first season. Yeah, you know, I've been watching this
for eighteen seasons. Then then as this seasons went on,
everybody gets muddled in my mind, I don't remember who was.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, then they have to have the reunion episodes where
we got oh yeah I remember them. Okay, cool, Yeah,
there are going to be yes. Yes, okay, well you'll
have to tell me who stays. Oh, We're not there yet,
but I'll tell you. Let's move on. I'm not tuning in.
(49:24):
I just.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
I'm surprised you will not continue to watch this. Oh man,
that's madness. Yeah yeah, okay, all right, So can we
(49:51):
get to the conversation where David's.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Talking to his friend in the bar?
Speaker 3 (49:54):
That is where we are at.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Okay, you'n I was dying, dying? I think like you
were mentally sleep Yeah. You were like yeah, I think
I was. She was cooked. Yeah, but do you I
still have a few I still have a few quotes
choice quotes that you said. Remember you were still paying
attention to the show. Yeah. But he was like, so
(50:18):
he's describing why he knows that Madison's the girl for him,
do you remember, And he's going, David, yeah, and he's like,
she works out, Oh okay, and then he's like and
then I look up and she's doing her fantasy football
and then and she plays darts man. I was like, dude,
what the hell. I was like, oh no, yeah, I
(50:42):
like it does That's that is Chicago for you right there.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
I mean he said that, he said corn hole, she
plays bags man, she plays bags right.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
He said he could see himself married to Madison. He
said that out loud on camera.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yes, he did. I heard it.
Speaker 8 (51:05):
I'm just like, dude, I mean, and then that was
the point where you yelled at the camera she ain't
ready to marry you.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, I don't think she is. Yeah, no, they tell
you that because I mean they're done after once they
eight weeks, right, did they give you follow up about
reunion episode?
Speaker 1 (51:33):
Well, yeah, yeah, we'll have follow up.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Yeah, that was probably a few recorded several weeks after
the end of the show, like maybe is recorded like
a couple of months after, so by that time things
let him know before the end of this show, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Yeah. I saw something on Reddit that it was just
and it was December when it was recorded, December twenty three,
because this this all happened in September of twenty twenty three, three.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Months okay, yeah after yeah, laugh that long?
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Right?
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Surprisingly shockingly, Oh my god, I know you'd be shocked
to know that. Okay, not at all. She ain't ready
to marry you, okay. And then after that was another
Jesus commercial My Mart's that down and we started timing them.
That was when we had five minutes and thirty seconds.
It was like, next commercial, which is terrible. Oh, I mean,
(52:33):
come on, man, it's.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Like people, Yeah, yeah, do we have anything else to
say about David and Tommy's conversation? Tommy said to go
for it. Yeah, said go for it.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
If it's love, it's love, man. If it's dark, I love.
Is that just his childhood friend or was he in
the show too that I was a friend?
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Yeah, just a friend. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
We might have seen them before, like at the weddings
or whatever. You see the weddings and everything.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Yeah, it was, you know, And it was right before
this conversation that the that the promo where they all
be home for National Margarite to Day by Choice came
out at the.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
End, so that it was different. I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
I was like, but our restaurants now going to start
sponsoring movies on Lifetime? Is Applebee's going to be sponsoring
that I Want My Baby Back movie?
Speaker 2 (53:31):
It was inside the episode. It was no, it was
a commercial, but we didn't see it. Did you know
they had.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
The little thing in the in the bottom that it kept?
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Remember, because I was so bombarded with those. It's just
like I remember that what everybody sees, you know when
you're watching something like that. But it was busy, you know,
there's different things going on.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Yeah, it's true, it's true. Okay, we have two more
conversations and they were pretty good. For the first one
was M M, E K and the experts.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
Okay, what do you make of that? Who was there?
Just the experts? Or and MM and e K her husband?
When you were like, where's her husband? Oh?
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Right?
Speaker 2 (54:24):
That was weird because I never saw much of them. Yeah,
you didn't. That was the first time because you tracked it.
You were like, where'd she go? Like, because the one
gal was there on the bed talking to Michelle at
the beginning, and she has the funniest faces, a real
heavy eyelash, and she know but she likes she had
the funniest facial expression. Did he eat her? And then
(54:48):
her face? I was like, oh, but she really was
kind of she had that same put on at that
root therapy thing. Too for a while there. Ye, you
put that poud on mm hmm. Yeah, that was weird.
That was weird. I guess that guy didn't last How
(55:08):
many weeks was that before that happened.
Speaker 3 (55:10):
Because it was like four or something like the separate.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Aren't you supposed to at least hang in there for
like eight weeks?
Speaker 3 (55:18):
I mean ideally, yes, you are supposed to.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
It's so bad. I guess they let you feel I guess.
I don't know. It was just weird.
Speaker 3 (55:27):
But but she told him off too.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
Yes, she did. She had like a poem or something,
didn't she that she read?
Speaker 3 (55:33):
Yeah, she read a letter to him.
Speaker 2 (55:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
And then doctor Pia said that was kind of, you know, shady,
and she was like, well, somebody had to say it
to him.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, you know I kind of during that,
I just was like, I kind of understand maybe where
a KG is coming from. If if he feels like
she's really judgmental of him, that could be what, you know,
this where his behavior is coming from, Like if he's
just like feeling judged constantly. I'm not saying she's actually
(56:05):
doing that. I'm just saying he's feeling judged constantly by
her give it up. Well, I just can't believe because
they try and match people, don't they, I mean before that,
because there's a process, and it just seemed like that
was really not a good match from the get go,
because that's who she is. You you can tell she
(56:27):
has attitude, she's going to be like that. Yeah, that's
who she is. So you want someone who can and
so him doing somebody who's just seem like they were
water and oil. You know, I don't know why you
would put those two people together unless you thought they
would help one another. But that didn't work out. No,
(56:49):
they have reasons for why they say they are matching
them during the match making, that just seemed like, yeah,
I guess everybody makes mistakes. They don't all work out right,
And that was a big oh pah mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (57:04):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Well they even liked each other or respected one another, right, you.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
Know, yeah, yeah, it really it fell apart, Yeah, horribly.
Speaker 2 (57:16):
Yeah, I didn't see it even. All I saw was
that and you know.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
Yeah yeah, and then do we have anything else about
mmni kch no, oh I have to.
Speaker 10 (57:29):
I know, I have to check in it. So we're
gonna in ten minutes, but I have to like check in. Okay,
don't worry. Okay, I'm flying Southwest.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
Oh oh yes, okay, okay your twenty four hour check in? Yeah,
for your flight.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Yeah, I'd like to get on. Okay, all right, Well
let's go, Mike get off, all right, let's go. We're
on my heart out here.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
All right.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
Yeah. Conversation.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
So the final conversation, of course, was with the experts
and David and Madison.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
David and Madison, I really oh right where they did
and Madison they were saying, did you guys okay, trying
to get them to talk about whether they right, were
lights them it already or something? Which you know, they
know if they were, or maybe they don't. I mean,
maybe they aren't cameras inside wherever they are, they know
(58:28):
there's something going on because they see people coming and going,
but they claim they didn't. And anyway, it's nobody's business
in my opinion what they're grown adults. I mean, just
because they were married. I mean, the only thing is
they have a contract and they probably should have respected that.
But you said that that's what they're going to show.
(58:50):
They knew somebody knew all this was going down. Yeah,
I think their contract just says they're going to be
on the show. They agree to be on the show.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Right, don't and agree to get married, agree.
Speaker 2 (58:59):
To get married and whatever, and agreed to all those
other terms. But it probably doesn't dictate what you can
or can't do on the show while you're on it.
And you can't help it if they sparks really flew
or whatever, if there was some kind of attraction that
happens on sets all the time. So yeah, we'll look
at actors, yeah, real movies and things or crew members
(59:24):
and stuff like. Also, like there's been things where they're
one of the experts, the sex expert, and I still
don't they say there there wasn't anything, then drop it,
you know. Yeah, it sounded I didn't like that that
they were like really trying to prod into their privacy.
I believe in privacy if you are on film, and
(59:46):
there's certainly that you know. All I know is that
there must have been a reference where she said she
was going to try to reach out to Alan again. Oh,
I think that's right, wasn't there There had to have
been oh yes comment. I thought that was because that's
when you yelled at the TV leave the guy alone.
Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Because you said leave me alone, I want to talk
to you. She's like, I think you're going to reach
out again. God, maybe I Trader Joes.
Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Did you When Pastor cal like called out, Madison was like,
if you met David just out and you know, out somewhere,
you wouldn't have even thought about him because he's a
person of color. And you said you didn't want to
you know, a person of color.
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Well, I mean that's kind of a I don't know,
that's kind of a silly one to get somebody on.
I think, to be like just because they haven't maybe
dated that well.
Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
And she did.
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
And obviously when they build out the questionnaire something, they
probably asked that sort of thing and she probably said
that she wanted a Caucasian partner.
Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
You know she did. Did you see the the I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Think that I personally don't think that you can hold
somebody to that. I think that that's again, I'm sure
they're trying to match people up, but if it's something
like a physical attraction, and yeah, if it's just on
the street, you're not in close quarters or anything, but
being on the set with these people and that is
(01:01:41):
what attracted you to each other. You know, it's kind
of hard to call her up on that. I think
that's what you're saying too. Yeah, I don't know what
he's saying. Hey, I gotta go.
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
I know, yeah, I mean I I yeah, I just
thought that, you know, hey, people are racist.
Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
This is America's racism, isn't And that's just it's you know,
we're lying, all of us if we don't admit it,
because it is. It's unfortunate. You know. I wish I
wasn't either, and I'm you know, I try not to be,
but everybody has don't say anything racist right now. I
(01:02:21):
consider myself, I consider myself not, but I'd be lying
if I think everybody is.
Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I think everyone a little bit racist.
Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Times we're just knocking asshole comedians. That just made a
joke out of your point, I know, but I know
by your point. I wish you know, in a perfect
America is racist?
Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
The massage to massage?
Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Yes, absolutely obic?
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
And this this is the last thing I'm going to
say that you said while we were watching this, and
then you can go check in. Uh she said I
didn't want to hurt him, and you go too late.
Oh my god, Mom, go so real, Can we ask
for those questions real quick?
Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
So yeah, so okay, so we're gonna get get.
Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Your okay, go ahead, hurry up quick.
Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Yes, we just we just want to see who.
Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Have four minutes? Okay, who you can?
Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
It's okay to check in after the twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
It's okay. No, no, no, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
So anyway, So anyway, so I'm just gonna quickly say,
after eight weeks, these people have to decide whether or
not they're going to stay married or get a divorce.
And they're gonna go in front of the experts and
they're gonna ask them, do you want to stay married?
Do you want to get a divorce? And one says yes,
the other says no, they get a divorce. So okay,
So we only really have two couples that I need
(01:04:02):
to ask you about. One is Camille and Thomas. Do
you think they will say.
Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Yes or no on decision day? I say no, okay.
And then who's.
Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
The other couple that's together, Oh, Carla and Wand.
Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
That's a tough one, but I would say no. But
if they do, I can't see it. I don't know.
I don't know, Okay, that one, and we got because
they didn't really I only saw one episode and I
didn't really see you know, them interact for someone who
has to check in, all right, and we already got
(01:04:42):
your answer that you are not going to continue to
watch the show, all right, especially I see I'm going
to be kissed. Okay, all right, thank.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
You, Jamie, thank you. Oh my gosh, that was high hilarious.
And you didn't think she would be that great of
a guess you're still recording, yes, I know, to do
(01:05:17):
that great of a guest. So do you have anything
to plug?
Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
She hate it so so much.
Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
I mean our monthly Birthquake show is March eighth. Every
second Saturday of the month, we do a comedy show, Earthquake.
Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Do you have anything to plug?
Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Well I am. I am starting to teach a stand
up comedy class, yes, and that will be at Thursdays
at six pm in March. Thursdays in March, So if
anyone wants to sign up, we're gonna have a lot
of fun yay on an actual show like Mirthquake.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Yeah great, all right, Well, thanks Slummer's mom Louise for
being on the show.
Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
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