Season 4 Episode 18-She's Easy To Get Over

Schuyler, Sommer and Jamie talk about Season 18 Episode 17 of Married At First Sight with special guest Gabrielle Dixon

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to madd and Finally Single. I'm Jamie Black.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
And I'm Skyler Fasten Jones.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
And this is a meredithirst I fan podcast where we
invite a guest on who's never watched an episode. Hey, everybody,
welcome to another episode of Mad and Finally Single. We
have a guest today a little different than our normal
guests who have never watched the show. This guest watches

(00:34):
the show because to this is decision day. So this guest,
she is, she's a coworker of mine. She is. She
lives in Hershey, Pennsylvania, the sweetest place on earth. But
she's about to maybe, if I can talk her into it,
move to Chicago. Not that I have anything to do
with that, but you may move to but anyway, please

(00:56):
give it out. Gabrielle Dixon, Hey, Hello, Hello, happy to
be here.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
I've many thoughts.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Oh my god, what a treat to get to have
someone on the show who's been watching the season. Yeah,
not that there's anything wrong with people who haven't, because
you know, it's also fun, but like, this is just
we don't we don't get this that often.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
We don't give any survivors to watch.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Hours thousand, hours, ten thousand hours. You're an expert now,
Oh man, oh my god. So again, just real quick,
how long have you been watching this show.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
It's been a couple of years, I'm saying to Jamie.
It definitely hasn't been since season one, but I can't
pinpoint the exact season I came in. But it's been
a couple of years. And it's my favorite reality sort
of dating or marriage show because I felt like it
was the most realistic and they were genuinely trying to

(01:56):
pair people up. My feelings may have changed, but we
can dive out.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Oh yeah, no, oh shit, I mean because I'm watching
Love is Blind right now. Are you guys watching that too?

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yes, And it feels so I'm sorry, it just feels
so fake right now. I'm like, these people are here
to get on a show. Yeah, they're all They're all
like hiding like extensive backstories. But anyway, I agree with you,
but yikes. Oh and oh sorry, Kebby, tell us a
little bit about yourself.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yes, well from hershey Pa, the East Coast, but yeah,
looking to move to Chicago.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Am I did she just do that? I'm like having
a total brain fart. She did it already didn't she.
I just repeated myself, what do you what do you do? Gabby?

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Are you?

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Are you a stand up comedian? I'm curious.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I am not.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I would consider myself a digital puppeteer. That's been my
background for about ten years, which would have brought me to,
you know, working with Lovely Jamie. Here.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Oh, I should call myself a digital puppeteer.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
That is what I here.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Okay, now you.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Guys are I mean you're you're so you have such
a wonderful presence.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah. So I do have an acting background, So I
did you know theater professionally for you know, out of
high school. It took a break in college, and then
after college that's sort of what I did, and then
sort of fell into the puppetry world and digital puppetry
and that kind of became my new love. So that's
sort of what I do now.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yeah, well, I can tell you that if you do
move to Chicago.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
I don't know, maybe JAB can corroborate this, but I
think it's the best theater town in the world.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Okay, Yeah, there's so much theater there. It's really there's
nothing like it in terms of just the creativity and
the act and the amount, the sheer amount of theater
that's happening there on all levels, and the support and
the support.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, like you know, obviously New York is is what
it is with theater, but you know, it's so competitive there. Yeah,
and there's just a lot it's just a lot of
collaboration and chutag and just a lot of support.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
You just yeah, I mean, i'd say there is some competition,
There is some whatever, like you know, every scene's got it,
but like, but truly it's right here in La It's like,
oh my god. Trying to get people to come to
your show is like, I mean, you're like that.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
We're all like, we may as well just quit, Like
where are we doing this?

Speaker 4 (04:21):
People just start lying and saying yeah, I'm bringing ten
friends and then no one shows up. Like it's just
that's not how it is in Chicago, people like really care.
So anyway, and if.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
You move to Chicago, I know some singles that are
now available.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well this, yeah that's so get to it.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yes, Okay, So well I'm just going to start with
h Carla and Wan since that's that's where they started.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
They started.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Oh Gabby, oh yeah, we go to you first. Yeah,
we go to you for for it for any kind
perfect car and one.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I truly don't do you want my overall thoughts thoughts
on I'm gonna just give thoughts. I don't understand how
this match didn't work. They are both so beautiful, and
I really don't understand Wan. I feel like because I
don't understand where the chemistry attraction. Like, Okay, maybe y'all
did it match on the spirituality and sort of that vibe,

(05:27):
but you are telling me you are not attracted to Carla.
You didn't want to kiss her, you don't want to.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Cuddle her, right, she's so cuddleable, yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Like from the start too. So I don't I just
don't understand truly where it went wrong. I feel like
it was more Wan and they were keeping it casual
and cool and cordial, and the fact that he did
give it away that he wasn't gonna choose her because
they were their last little meetup. She was like, oh,
do you want to take your poncho? And he was like, no,

(05:59):
you can have it for one more night. Oh and
he correct himself one more night before decision day. I said, oh,
he's not Oh yeah, he don't want to continue it.
So I'm disappointed because on paper and just looking at them,
it would seem like they would be perfect. But those
are my thoughts.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
What is wrong with him? He is crazy?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Well, like I couldn't be romantic after two months, Like
it just it takes me a while to get there.
I was like, girl, you had two months?

Speaker 5 (06:26):
Two months or sleeping in bed with someone for two months?

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Yeah, you couldn't cuddle them or kiss him or do
any making up.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Come on, yeah, I mean neither of them. I don't
think either of them really wanted to be married. I
think they were like, well, I wanted to promote his
eighteen apps and his twenty seven seventeen businesses.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Well because even at the end, he's like, we're here
at my warehouse.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
What is happening? He's got like like for like day
glow paint, What where is this place? And how that's
what I wanted for that much real estate in Chicago?
Like that is not cheap.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
That's what I want to know.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
She is making all the money off of his app.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Gabby, Chicago's not cheap. Just you can't have a warehouse, okay.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Like get noted.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
I mean I have no idea where he's getting all
this stuff from, is he? I mean, there's no way
because the first of all, warehouse, Like that's got to
be in the city.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Right, Jamie, I mean yeah, I would imagine anyway.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
It seems like it's in the city at least. What
is yea? What is this?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
W He like purchased it or rented it or whatever
and was like, guys, I'm going to be on a
TV show soon. I'm going to be making millions of
dollars off of it, and then I'm going to promote
ady T And yeah, He's like, I'm going to be
related in all the money, So like, don't worry about it.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
He's gonna he's not gonna be able to pay that
mortgage like next month. Like that's the sort of like,
you know, fame of this show was like a flash
in the pan, you know, but I have no idea.
I know so many people or companies that had Like
remember there was this one theater company in Chicago. It
was like a it was a really cool theater company,

(08:13):
and they had the warehouse and they had to eventually
foreclose on it because it was too much money.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Oh are you talking about noble fool?

Speaker 5 (08:20):
Oh no, I was talking about a different one though.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Oh well, you know Noble Fool. You know they their
big show was Flanagan's Wake. Oh right, it was a
really popular show. And so then they decided to buy
a space in downtown Chicago yikes uh and went went
belly up soon after.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
I think almost all of them did. That had like
a really big space.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I mean, it's not just like full of warehouses where
they're like whouses.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
It kind of is. Jamie knows this, but I lived
in like a giant live work space that eight people.
It wasn't like a or the eight people lived in
that was a it kind of like that. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
It was awesome. It really is the best place. It
really was. There was a bar in there, the theater,
and it was just in a huge space.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
The Lincoln Loft. It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah Lincoln. Yeah, yeah, I miss no longer.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
There because the problem with it was that it was
probably should have been condemned, but we were still living
in it.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
So had a great time.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Hey, Chicago, you can live in a condemned theater. Come
to Chicago. But yeah, so I mean listen about Carla
to get back to her, I mean, you know, she
was so gracious this whole time, Like when he played
that horrible song a few episodes back, and she.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Was like, babe, you did so good, so you have
the best voice, and like he can't. He's like toned off.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Okay, but like she's so she's so sweet, and then
like he was basically insulting her the whole time on
that couch.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
He called her passive aggressive. What I was like, what
are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (10:10):
This is the first time I'm hearing of this.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, me too, to be fair, the bag incident way
back on the honeymoon.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
You're right, Yeah, you're.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Right, she was passive aggressive once.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
I mean you get one time and then you're passive aggressive.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I mean it happens sometimes, you know.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah, Okay.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I also love how he's like, she just does pilates
and that's not a workout, and I's going to work out.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
He couldn't do the workout. He was like dead after
it wasn't he I don't know, maybe, but but yeah,
oh my god, like that she's not athletic. She's like
she like she's a plies instructor now and yoga teacher
and oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
And he wasn't in the crystals and the spirituality and everything,
which is like I mean.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
And can I interject and say, this is what I
feel about. She had to bring him into her world
so much because he did not show her any part.
What did we learn about wan? What did we what
did what? Activity did they do that alone?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Has she had.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Told she had at six a m. Yeah, so she
had to do a lot of the heavy lifting when
it came to their activities and stuff. So, yeah, of
course it seemed like, oh my gosh, you're so into
all that stuff. Was seemed overwhelming because what what are
you bringing to the table on.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
So she was the one that hired the tantruck hooker.
I don't think she was the one that did it.
I think that was production unless it was her friend,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
I mean, she did show up in a.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Were hanging out at the yeah thing at the end,
she was like, titties, I fucking love that. Good for you, Carla,
just show them titties. Okay, Yeah, Yeah, she's a character.
But I don't know, he could use a little bit
more character in his life, because you're right, we don't
it about him.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Well some things which he's not really whatever.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
I feel like it wasn't until they were on the
couch on decision Day that I was like, Oh, where
was all this discussion about all of your problems that
you were having each other for the past eight weeks.
I just feel like that they were just kind of like,
go with the flow. We're hanging out, you're playing me music.
I'm going to do a tarot reading. Yeah, we're just
not into each other. Bye.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
I was like friding their time to Decision day and
cashing that chat getting those Instagram followers.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah for me, I will not be following one.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
No, he's on private. Oh okay, well, and he did
not accept my follow up. Oh so I was like,
I get it. You know that I'm talking about you
and you're.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Not gonna say he's heard the podcast right, well, listen.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Was I a little high one night and said, hey,
let's follow one and maybe I can get him as
a guest on the show. Absolutely, and has not come
to fruition, but there's still time.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yes, one, come on.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I'd be like, you could be on the show and
talk about your app all you want. Jamie will edit
it out. It'll be great.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Unless he pays. Unless he pays a little bit of money.
Then we'll keep it in Oh.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yes, this this podcast episode sponsored by whatever wand's app is.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, and the Warehousehouse. Okay, do you have anything else
to say about Carla and Juan.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Well, I do have to say that, you know, I
just have to say that I am very in awe
of her and how Okay, so the whole time she
was expressing herself very like emotionally even keeled.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
And that's the thing, like, I don't think I have.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
That ability to do a lot of the people who
were you know, talking about how they've been super dissed
on that show, were you know, the emotions get elevated.
I do not have the ability to regulate my emotions
like that. I don't know about you guys, But so
it's so amazing how she can like keep it all,
you know, even and and just express herself so articulately

(14:21):
and then say like you know that she's a special
you know, a special unicorn, which she nicorn, magical unicorn.
She's a magical unicorn, and I want whatever I want
to drink the magical unicorn juice.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I think, yes, he's like, if you don't want a
magical unicorn that's your problem. I was like, yes, bitch, that's.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Right, thank you. I love her too. It's so great anyway,
that's all I have to say.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, okay, only two things about them, and they both
correlate with like naming the location. So when they were
like all the specialists were getting to the hotel, I
just love how doctor pas like, we're here at the
beautiful hotel blah blah blah. I was like, that's it.

(15:07):
I was like, I love that producers were like fucking
mentioned the name because we're not paying to use this space,
so name it now so we can use it. And
then later on when they're at one's warehouse, I was like,
do we think that he was like, please let me

(15:27):
do an after party here so I can promote it.
I will pay you guys. It was just thoughts that
we're going through my head about.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, I believe that.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
My mom was a guest last week on the podcast
and she called them not she called them social workers.
It's like the social workers.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I was dead.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
That was so funny.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
That was hilarious. Oh my god. Yeah, well, I mean, yes,
of course they mentioned the Langham, but you it's also
on the on the doormat when you walk in the door,
says the langham there.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, but there's no way they would have mentioned it
if production hadn't have said please mention it.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Right, Yeah, so random because she's like, we're here at
the beautiful Langdam.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
They never say.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Where anything is. I mean they didn't even talk about
They didn't even mention, well, we could talk about it
next or later, but they didn't even mention that beautiful
whatever the restaurant was where they had the mead flights.
I need to know the show. Oh yeah, maybe Jamie's
figured it out where No.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
I don't know, God, that place was figure that out?
Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, I was thinking that too. Hell
is this place?

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Okay a deep dive and figure it out? But I
was like a mead flight, so you know, that's the
kind of ship that's cool in Chicago mead flights.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
M hm, Like I will some figure it out. I'm
going in a couple of weeks. Oh good, ye out,
so I can go.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
That backyard that they're in will probably not be frigid
right now. Oh well it's March. It might be actually,
but yeah, so I don't know. But it was gorgeous
and I was like, can I get a meat flight
in La? Come on?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
But you know they might have heat lamps out there. Yeah,
I don't know, but I don't. Yeah, I don't know
where it is.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
You can do your you can do when you go
to Chicago. You can do your merit at First Sight tour.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Oh, trust me, I already have a plan. If I
see some of these cast members height, No, there'sud be
no words.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
You're gonna plates class with Carla and tell her she's
a magically like, tell her, tell her about the podcast
and we love her.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Oh yeah, if I okay, yeah, if I see anybody,
I'll be mentioning the podcast and depending on who it is,
they might get slung on or not.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
So yeah, yeah, we shall soon. Okay, all right, do
we have anything else about Carl and Want.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I'm just glad that they ended on a positive note
where both of them were just like, Okay.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
They're pal I'm not about that life and I that's
the one thing that I can't stand about one is
everything has to it's like talk positivity throughout this whole.
When when Alan the night when he discovered everything and
he's out there being like, you know, be be respectful.
I'm like, shut up, Like, no, everything doesn't have to
be positive and respectful imature. Yes, sure that's nice for

(18:15):
some things, but when people are disrespecting you, literally in
your face, he can feel however he wants to feel.
So that's I can rant about that more.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
It's a great point about toxic positivity, Gabby, because I
think a lot of people would look at someone like
Carla and be like, she's she's got toxic positivity. But no,
she is very grounded. No, yeah, she stands her she
knows when things are fucked up, and she like expresses it.
But yet she's also and I think so she's truly
the most positive one because she's got a great balance

(18:44):
in both of those.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yes, I wouldn't Yeah, I wouldn't say that about Carla,
And it's one who he doesn't. I don't think he
likes anyone to really express their true feelings. God forbid,
it gets heated or escalated a little bit, right, you're
not being mature.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
Yeah, yeah, that's a great points.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
True. Yeah, Okay, let's move on Madison and Allen and
and just just really quickly. I want I want to
know why they met at different places because Madison and
Allen and Michelle and David were not at the Langham,
So I don't understand why the two different different places. Why.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
I think because they were doing a meet meeting before
decision day. I don't think that they actually had official
Decision Day was only for the couples who made it
all the way that shooting day, and it was at
the Langham, and it was probably already pre Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
They wouldn't let them use it for two days.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
So yeah, and this one they were like, we're done, please,
we don't care where we have to meet. It could
be a dumpster. It can tell wherever it is we
will meet and break up.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
They should have done in a Chicago alleyway.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
I know, with a nice So the dumpster on fires,
sat on it on a couch that has been thrown out, and.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
The perfect alley exists right behind that abandoned theater I
used to live in. It's amazing. There's a fires. Yeah, people,
and we had a dumpster fire all the time. It
was great. That's really rad perfect.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
It was perfect, setting the scene perfectly for these people
I love.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Anyway, I gat this is on Madison and Alan. Yeah,
you know, Madison is one of those people where it's
on site. If I see her, run I'm in Chicago, girl,
you better run because I think yes is so rude.
The other what was it last episode and she's like crying, saying, oh,
I want to I want to talk to Alan so bad.

(20:44):
She only wanted to talk to Alan for her own
selfish purposes. She wanted to feel better about the dirty,
downright nasty stuff she was doing to him. And the
fact that she came in there again and her and
David are This is why they're together. They're one and
the same because they come in so defensive, not humble.
If you really feel that badly, you should be coming

(21:06):
ready to hear all the stuff that he has to say,
not calling him names when he's being defensive as he
rightfully should, and upset because you treated him horribly the
whole season and lied to him and strung him along.
So the fact that she's she said her little apology
and then god forbid, he said one or two words
and then she's like, I'm done. I don't really have
anything more to say. Are you fucking kidding me? Like

(21:28):
she is so disrespectful to Alan and just shows that
she only cares about herself and just wanted to say
that apology so she could be like I said my
apology and by like she didn't care what he had
to say. So, yeah, I truly cannot stand her.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yeah, wow, what did I have to say about this?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I had a lot because I've been team out the
whole time. Not a fan of Madison. She's so annoying.
Can't stand her. I love that he came to this
sure and one of the outfits that she chose for him. Yeah,
it was very Nancy Kerrigan being like I'm going to

(22:10):
show up to the Olympics and the same outfit that
Tanya Harding's boyfriend, husband whatever. And I was like, this
is his Nancy Kerrigan moment. Yeah, throwing it in her
face and I love it.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, it was great.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
And then when she was like I don't understand the
point of this, and like pastor Cali whoever cuts in
and is like closure, and I was like, yes, tell
her that she's an idiot, tell her that you know
her ex husband needs closure. But then Alan is all like, oh,
I don't need it. With Madison, she's easy to get over.

(22:53):
I was like, yeah, oh, I loved it.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
How was he able to let that switch. I love it, Like, please,
can I buy a sense of self worth from Alan?
Like how much does it cost?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah? I was literally I was so horny at that moment.
I was like, Alan, you just read her to Phil
and I love it. I loved it. I love it.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Pissed she was pissed and I love that.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah, that was great. That was really great. I also
just hmm like to comment how Pia was rocking the
purple lipstick like it was the late nineties. Good looking, good,
Pia good.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
I love every every social worker Pia.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
I was watching this with with Mike, another one of
our former guests who's seen a lot of these who've
been watching the season, and he was like, he was like,
what is her qualifications? I was like, she's a sexologist
and he was like, I'm going to be a sexologist.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Where do I get my degree online?

Speaker 4 (24:07):
She is a sexologist, she is Look at that lipstick.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
It she came that dark lip because she's like it's
gonna get dark. She was just set in the mood
she was.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
She was I will correct Alan on one thing where
he said my divorce is official, and I was like,
there's no way your divorce is official. Yet that takes
a long time, doesn't it. I don't know, Gabby, if
you've ever been divorced, okay, don't get divorced. Awful, it's awful.

(24:43):
But yeah, so there's no way. They were like just
he was like, it's official. No, it's not official. You
just officially said it. But a couple of years I
had you probably don't. You have to live separately for
two years before you can even get a divorce.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
I think you do.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
I do think so, because I mean they were only
married for eight weeks, Like I think if.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
It doesn't matter, right, I think you have to be okay,
well no, sorry, not two years six months.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
That's a very different timeline.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
That is.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
I just say that because my divorce took two years.
But you have to be officially living separately for six
months before you could even file instant.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
I feel like they have to have something set up
for this though.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah, like maybe it's an annulment and not a divorce.
Actually that might be, like they have that's true. They
probably have some legal team that can.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Like speed process. Yeah, do you imagine, Like, yeah, I bet.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
It's an annulment. Yeah, then if it's an annulment, why
do they say divorce because divorce sounds so much worse.
And that's the other thing about this show that's so
funny is like they're just like totally demonizing divorce, Like
you know, it's like you could either succeed or you
can fucking fail be a divorce piece of shit. Maybe

(26:00):
that's why I like this show so much, because it
makes me feel like a piece of shit.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Listen, listen, and Trump's God America. If you don't stay married,
then you know you didn't try, and therefore you're a
bad person.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Well, speaking of Trump's America, I know they're gonna move
this to like Peacock, but I don't know how they're
gonna find people like now. I have to say, like
after these two, after definitely Carl and Wan and Madison
and Allen, I'm like, I think I think Allen was
in it for maybe the right reasons. I don't know
about Matt. I don't know about Madison. Maybe she had
David just found love. But like, like you know, Gabby

(26:39):
was saying that the reason why she started watching the show,
she thought it was like the most realistic, But now
it's like, what are they doing?

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Like right? Well, And I always said, I would totally
have done the show, but I don't feel like I
would even feel safe too, Like, who are they gonna
pair me with? You gonna pair me with a Kki? Yeah,
I do the show.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
That was probably in deep therapy. I hope, oh God,
and like, I forget one of these couples. They were like,
you know, we it might have been Madison and Allen.
They were like, we definitely didn't want this to happen,
like this was not our intention. I was like, yes,
it was, because otherwise you're gonna have just five sets

(27:23):
of Camilles and Thomas, which loves them, but boring as fuck. Yeah,
whereas like this, it wasn't like there were so many
moments where I was just like half asleep throughout the episode.
I was like, oh, they're on their honeymoon and that's
I'm saying whatever. But then once we were like I
think he's cheating. I think he might be cheating on me.
I was like, Oh, I'm in it, yeah, I know,

(27:46):
you show up. What was it? What was the famous quote,
I'm going to give you a circus if you show
up in a clown.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, if you what is it? If you bring me
a clown? You're going to get a circus.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yes, Like those were the moments where I was like
so stressed for them, but also I was like, give
me more. How am I going to wait another week?
As much as I want people to successfully find love,
I also don't love the TV. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Yeah, so maybe it'll be messier when it moves to
Peacock it is a bigger station after all.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Or maybe we'll get gays.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Oh yeah that's what. Yeah, I'm hoping that that's better.
You know that every time with the matchmaking episode, there's
always a couple where two of the experts are for them,
and there's always one expert I don't know about them,
and then they end up choosing them, and of course
we see what happens afterwards.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
And of course they totally didn't mean to set.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Up like Alan and Madison and Michelle and David like
the way they did for Good TV.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
No way right.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Again unless, like I've said on past episodes, because I
mean again, Madison, Michelle, they're the same block woman in
my head, I still longer, but I still love my
theory of like they were like, oh fuck, we messed
up the blonde white women. Well let's just see what
happens it the M and the M.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Just like David messed it up in texts.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
I could believe it.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, do we have anything else because we're just gonna
go right into Michelle and David anyway.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
So okay, yeah, let's go.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah and David. Well, first off, I will say going
back to I hate to go back, but Madison and Alan,
I do feel like the experts I felt like treated
uh Madison with kid gloves compared to how they treat David,
which I feel like they rightfully should treat David like that.

(29:45):
I mean, he was maybe a little more defensive.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
And again yeah, just coming in with the stank ass attitude.
You are in the wrong. You know that people are
gonna be not happy about this, and yeah, Michelle, you
know people. I don't know what the opinions are here
about Michelle. I know from what I've seen on social media,
everyone's like, ah, she was so rude to him. But

(30:09):
I feel like Michelle's intuition clearly is on point, and
she probably saw from that literal seconds after they got
married and him saying I live with my parents, I
smoke like she just could tell the vibes were off
and clearly she was right, because he's just I think
a trash person for the way he is acting about this,
Like sure, maybe you didn't love your wife that you

(30:32):
got picked with or whatever, and you found love with
somebody else, but there is a total way more respectful
way to go about this than the way y'all are
doing it and then now being called out, and you
are so defensive every time someone even dares to say
how they feel that they were hurt. It's just so rude.
And yeah, I can't stand him, David. It's on site
when I'm in Chicago, so.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
We Lucky for you he lives with his parents somewhere
that is clearly way outside of Chicago.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
You're right, God's so true.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
I mean, well, what can I say about this?

Speaker 4 (31:11):
I mean, look, I agree, I think I think that
what there's Yes, Madison maybe got treated a little bit
nicer by the experts, but I think it was David's
whole personality shift that they were really responding to. I mean,
he just changed like that. I feel like they maybe
they feel like they were duped by him, because it

(31:34):
just seems so it's just so blatantly put on, like
his nice whatever, that his nice demeanor that got him
on the show was all like false, because yeah, I
agree with you. I was like definitely like not liking
Michelle throughout most of this, but again, we can't feel

(31:55):
the in person vibes through the TV screen, and so
I think you're right, she just knew something was off.
Now looking back on it, obviously that's what was going on.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, well I'm about to impart some very unpopular opinions here.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Great.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
I am not mad at either Madison nor David. If
if they if this was a marriage that has been
going on for five years and this happened, I'd be
pissed as fuck. They literally just met each other. I mean,
it's you couldn't Michelle's not upset about the fact that

(32:33):
David cheated on her with Madison. That's not what she's
She is leaning into this because now the pressure's off
of her because she was looking like the bad guy
because she wasn't giving him a chance at all. No
matter what he did, she wasn't giving him a chance,
and she was beating up on herself for feeling like,
what am I doing? What it's me I'm not, I'm

(32:53):
not doing what I mean you say He's a really
great guy and blah blah blah, I'm and now it's like, oh,
now I don't have to because now he is totally
fucked up, not mad at, not mad at Madison and
David uh and And if you are in the hot seat,
I'm I'm gonna be defensive.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
I would.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
I'm not gonna be the same person that I am normally.
If I'm in the hot seat, I'm gonna be defensive.
I just am. I mean, you're on national television. Your
parents are gonna see this. I mean, it's it's it's
it's just one of the You're just gonna protect yourself
and that's what that's all defensiveness is, is just trying to
protect yourself feelings. And here's the other. Oh no, go ahead,

(33:33):
well don't.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Say that's the thing. You are national TV. You wait
two months to do waited.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I'm not condoning any It's just all these feelings Alan aside.
I am so I feel so bad for Alan because
I know he had genuinely, But Michelle didn't give a
shit about David. She wasn't gonna end up with him,
So what does she care if he if he cheats?
She only cares because the cheated.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
She could have she didn't like him, she could have
been you know what I mean, Like it's like the
fact that they signed up for something you did. You
were married legally, So I would think there should be
some accountability.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
To try a little bit, like she was kind of
opening up right, like she trying.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
To she was never gonna say yes.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
But the biggest thing, though, I think for her is
that it was like he was lying the whole time
and she was being gas lit. Oh yes, I wouldn't
because I mean, they obviously weren't going to be together.
We called that night one when she had her breakdown
in the bathroom. They weren't going to stay together. Nobody
saw them staying together, and so I don't think it's

(34:41):
necessarily that she's like, I'm mad at you Madison for
stealing my man. I think it's like you all made
me feel like I was crazy. I looked crazy on
national television because I'm making you go through your phone
and you're telling me like, oh no, we never talked.
We never talked, and I'm looking like I'm insane. So

(35:02):
I would also be like pretty pisseds like right, because.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
On National TV with like producers and I mean it
was like a big ruise definitely.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Because like listen, Madison and David are perfect for each other.
They're both trash can human beings.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
That's me.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I don't care. They're perfect for each other. So, you know,
I think it's less of me being frustrated of like, oh,
you know, they cheated whatever, and more of just like
just be honest with your partner. Just sit there and
be like, yo, we're legally married, but like, let's be real,
I'm not into you. You're not into me, right, I

(35:43):
like this woman, Let's call it a day, you know,
in the marriage reconvene with the experts, have them pair
you up with Madison, and yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Honest the whole time.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
What was that?

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Michelle was being honest the whole time.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, Michelle's very honest.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
She's like, I'm gonna try. I don't like you, but
I'll maybe try. So that's why I think for me,
I don't like David, and I don't feel bad for
him one little bit. Yeah, because I'm like, you made
this woman feel like she was insane.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Regardless, you're going on a show where the goal is
to try to have a marriage in eight weeks. You're
in a legal binding marriage. Like, nobody can have a
really good relationship without honesty, right, I mean that's just
like no matter what, no matter what, you've got to

(36:39):
be honest with each other. You've got to communicate, and
you got to be honest. So she was at least
doing that even if she wasn't like trying, but she
was honest about not trying.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
And I think that's I agree that that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
It's really like he really did try. I mean, man,
he really he was lying so much and she just
turned into Nancy fucking Drew.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
You know.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
She was like and she's probably still on a high.
I mean she was like, like, there's nothing a basic
white woman loves more than solving a mystery.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
Okay, look at Nabby Potito murder.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
All right, Hello, she was on the case, you know,
and she's still kind of on the case. She still
wants like, you know, she it feels good to know
that you're right.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
She wants him to admit that. And every time he's like, well,
you know, like I told you before, like you just
you can't have Like what does he always say? He's
like you have to either, like I can't make you
believe me. That's on you for not believing me. She's like,
you've lied to me this entire time, So no, it's
not on me for not believing you. You've proven your character.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Well the way Oh go ahead, Oh no, go ahead,
the way too. That Yeah, he being the treatment of
Alan versus Michelle. Well, yeah, he'll give all the answers
to Alan. Alan don't even want to hear, but God forbid,
Michelle actually want some answers, and yeah, yeah, I can't
make you believe me. Yeah, I'm just like you.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Wait a little bit more of that impression of David.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Let me see it.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
I don't know if I can jump back into it
just in the moment.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
In the moment of why he still lives at home
eighteen times.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
I'll do an impression of David. The thing that bothers
me is that he uses too many words, but they're
not like words like it's like word salad. So he's like,
what did he say? Like what was his saying? He
was like, he'll be like, yeah, in regards to the
fact that I, you know, uh like I you know,

(38:50):
uh was he he uses like regards to and things
like that, Like he just throws in words that they're
not big words.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
You're completely honest with you.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Yeah, just be honest with you. Yeah, in the in
the demeanor of uh, you know, respectfully, uh you know,
in regards to my ability to be in love. And
it's like, oh my god, dude. Stop Like he was like,
I do apology. I remember saying I do apologize.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
It's like, just say you're sorry. Just say you're sorry.
Don't say I do apologize. Stop saying that. Stop adding
in words they don't need to be there. Just simplify
and speak to the heart. Man.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Fun fact that somebody once taught me though, when I
worked in customer services, they were like, never say you're sorry.
Always say I apologize, because an apology is an action.
Sorry is like a feeling. So like I don't feel sorry,
but I'll apologize.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Ah, that's a customer fucking service though. Okay, like he's
in a relationship.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
No, but that could be useful.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
I'm just for all the listeners out there. I use
that so often where I'm like I apologize, They're like,
you're not sorry. I was like, you're right, I'm not sorry.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
I apol.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
That's good, I guess.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Lessons that David has brought up for us.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, I guess all right, all right, let's let's move
on to Camille and Thomas.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Okay, I guess I'll dive in Camille and Thomas. I
do like Camille and Thomas. They're the only ones that
like each other. I do feel like Thomas. I mean,
I can understand Michelle or Camille. Oh gosh, sorry, I
understand Camille. And I was a little worried that she
may not choose him because, yeah, he had no decisiveness,

(40:36):
the fact that she had brought up multiple times what
are we doing after this show? I would need that reassurance,
like if things are going relatively well, which they were
the whole time, Okay, let's get this plan, like what
what we doing? And he was so like not wanting
to talk about it and not figure out a plan.
That would really bother me. But I am glad that

(40:58):
they are together. I'd love to know where are they living,
what are they doing, what was a plan? I guess
we'll find that out next episode.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
I guess we will.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
But yeah, I'm glad in the way he you know,
brought the basketball and proposing that way.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
That was nice. So I think he came up with
that idea.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Jesus Jamie a hop in my bubble. Well, now that
you say it, maybe me.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
I feel like he did. He's cheesy, like that could be.
I'm going to tell myself he did same.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
He did it.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I'm so give he's forty one years old. What else
does he have to do?

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Two? Yeah, it was a nice touch. No, I liked it.
I just didn't know what he came up with it.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
He's not a planner. Is that a deal breaker for you?
Someone who's not a planner. He's just not He's not.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
I mean to that level. It was extreme, Like, yeah,
I would. I just need personally for myself, I need
a lot of reassurance and that would really have me
struggle that. Camille was real nice about it too. She
that would have been a fight, like what are we
doing play basketball?

Speaker 4 (42:09):
You plan that?

Speaker 1 (42:10):
I will say this, I think men sometimes struggle with
women who are very strong and have to take care
of everything. You know, I'm Camille takes care of everything
in her life. So now she's now she's married, she
wants him to take to take some of that off
her so she doesn't always have to make the decisions

(42:31):
and always be the planner and always well, how did
she put it? The planner, programmer, and coordinator. She doesn't
want to have to do that all the time. He's
gonna have to learn how to how to do that.
And I just think that because women are so independent
that and men have been so toxic for so long
that you don't want to be in there and be
aggressively this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna do

(42:52):
this and this and this. Do you know what I mean?
Does that make sense?

Speaker 4 (42:55):
And also I have to say that sometimes in defense
of men, I can't believe I'm doing this tens of men.
Sometimes women can be tricky, do you know what I mean?
Like they'll be like, sure, no, it's like he planned something,
and that's like they don't like it, right, It's like
you know, and then they're like, why did I even
do this because you said that you did, and then

(43:16):
I do it and I do it wrong. And I
think that there could be a little bit of that
sometimes where he's just being what yeah, yeah, yeah, because
it's like you're you're you're not really sure sometimes where
you stand, uh, you know, And that's something that women
do because I know I do it too, I know.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, And that was the segment of the episode where
we appeal to our straight male listeners probably also quite.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Like I said, I can't believe I'm actually doing.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
That, But in the page you Summer one, I yeah,
all I wrote down for these two because they actually
did get a bullet point. I normally forget about them
every episode. I mean, obviously, huge fans love that they
found love. I hope that they're still together and that

(44:17):
they're together forever. But all I could think about when
they were at their final dinner is how much producers
probably hated these two Because you have like M M
and E Kach who are just constantly fighting down each
other's throats. You have Michelle, David Madison and Alan who
are like, you know, all in this bizarre love triangle

(44:39):
and cheating Carl and one they don't really have any
drama in their relationship, but they're just both clinically insane,
so like make for great TV. And then you just
have these two where they're like, I don't know, I
guess maybe we should think about where we want to live,
and producers are probably like Jesus Christ, give us something
bigger than work.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
Like, can we find a beautiful location with mid flights
to put them in, even if it's like twenty degrees
outside and you can see their breath as they're sitting
down in the outdoor area. Just put them somewhere beautiful.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah, right, Well, because she even said as she sat down,
she's like, oh, it's really cold.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Oh it's really cold. I'm sure it was really cold.
She's like, my ass is freezing.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
She's like, my ass is literally stuck to this chair.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
Now, I will say this last thing. I do you
want to say that Thomas was really good about being vulnerable.
I feel like he did a really great job. He
was a great model for now if we're gonna, like,
you know, put the spotlight on those straight men, Like
he was a good model for how men should be vulnerable.
And like, I have to say I was a little

(45:44):
bit critical of Camille because she had some sort of
conditional vulnerability. She was like, well, I can't be vulnerable
with you unless you lalla lot. It's like, that's not
how vulnerability works, Camille. That's just not how it works. Like,
you can't be you can't say I'm only going to
be vulnerab if you blah blah blah, and I think
that's all these years of watching the show, I realize

(46:06):
how much people have conditional vulnerability on the show and
how many in relationships they have that. And I used
to have it too, And now I realize that what
vulnerability is. And like, through watching Thomas, who is a
great model that like, you don't know how it's going
to turn out, that's the definition of vulnerability. You have
to give it and even though you might be risking

(46:28):
something you know, your heart, but he is doing it.
And I was like, that's pretty great.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
You're not risking anything if somebody has to make you
feel safe in order to be vulnerable, correct, So yeah,
and you take that chance, you know, and you find yeah,
find out you know you're vulnerable with them, and then
do they give you that space which then should make
you feel safe to be vulnerable.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
M Jamie, Wow, don't dropping nuggets of wisdom thinking about myself.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Dang good.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, but if but you know, but if if you're
vulnerable to them and it's not well received and they're
not giving you space and everything, then that's when you're
that that's when you pull back and you're like, I
don't know if I can do that again because that
didn't feel really good. And that's how that's how they
You get in that place in a relationship where where
you you you want to be vulnerable, but you know

(47:26):
you can't be so then and then that pulls you
further and further apart. And then and then you cheat
unless you tell the person, which most people won't because
it's vulnerable to be honest like that and say I'm
not getting I'm not able to be vulnerable with you
because you don't blah blah blah. That's another vulnerability and

(47:48):
it's and it's hard to do. It's just Yeah, that's
why relationships are complicated. That's exactly why they're complicated. Wow, yeah,
I know, I'm old, I'm wise. I should be smoking
a pipe.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
I'm gonna get this man a pipe.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Where are you?

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Oh my god? Do anything else about Camille and Thomas,
because I mean they said yes, Yeah, I will.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Just say I do hope producers see the value and
a couple like this, because if we don't only one
couple stuck together and yeah, they may have been low drama,
but if we don't have couples that don't say together,
I'm gonna stop watching personally because again, yeah, the drama
is fun, but I do want to see the couples
make it like and more than one couple. I think

(48:36):
it's a little ridiculous that there was one couple out
of the five. We can at least get two. Do
you know what people out of the group, out of
each couple were assholes? That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Do you know what we need? We need another Jamie
and Elizabeth kind of drama. They ended up together and
they stayed together for a few years. They're divorced now,
but they had a lot of drama and in ended
up saying yes on decision day. They stayed together because
they ultimately figured out how to be together and stay

(49:08):
together for a few years. I hate that they're divorced now.
I was really I was happy for them. Yeah, well,
chef the kind of drama full.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
A bachelor and just be like, you don't get to
keep the ring unless you guys are together for at
least I think it's like a year or two or
something like that. Oh that used to be the I
don't know if that's still the case, but allegedly it's
like okay, so do that with them, be like, you
guys will get paid for this if you say yes

(49:38):
and stay together until the show finishes airing.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
But that's also kind of it's kind of I don't
know then everybody's going to stay together, and then we
can't do like a competition on which one of our
guests is right.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Oh, but I mean I don't think everybody would stay
together like I mean, I was, mm, I'm like, no
amount of Yeah, true.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
She don't need it, she's doing good. He may need that,
so yes, he may have said yes.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Act.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Do we need to talk about those two?

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Oh we are, we will right after we talk about
Madison and David's a new couple.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
We have a new couple.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
I was like, they're going on days already.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Way is this I know? Right?

Speaker 4 (50:25):
Anyway, Gabby, this is your floor?

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Oh lord, what do I have to say about that?
I mean, you could see the life breathed back into
each of them on this state. I mean, I've never
seen Madison so happy and giggly and you know happy.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
David, he was happy.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
He is so like a little boy with a crush
on like an older woman or something like he's like
when she he was what did she say? And he
was like, well, I don't like it took him like
five minutes to say my feeling, he's not strong for you. Like,
I don't know. I didn't enjoy watching it. I was
cringing the whole time. You know, I know they want

(51:09):
the drama, and you know they want us to see it, but.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
I think it's kind of disrespectful to the other people,
especially Alan, who you know, so one, I don't know.
Those are my thoughts. That's about it.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
I literally wrote. I was like, things, I didn't need
to see these two on a date, but well, this
is twenty twenty five. So but I also love how
she spent the whole season criticizing every little detail about Alan,
made him get a whole new appear, like a whole

(51:45):
new wardrobe, made him like teeth straightening. And then I
was like, but yet you like the man with mac
and cheese, yellow teeth and who shows up to every
event and a crinkled polo or crew neck.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
Okay, can we just also talk about the most offensive
thing I think I've ever seen in my life is
that while he was telling her about how his feelings
were strong, he had a golf teet behind his ear.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
I don't think I picked up all that, but yeah,
that's very David.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
And I was like, I don't know what that. I
don't have you.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Ever in your life seen anything like that?

Speaker 3 (52:29):
What is that?

Speaker 4 (52:31):
I actually turned to Mike while we were watching it,
and I was like, is that a thing that people do? Like?
Is that a golf thing? He was like, No, I've
never seen that. I was like, what is this?

Speaker 2 (52:42):
I mean, the man had never had sushi until.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
You know.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
Is that like the golf equivalent of wearing your sunglasses
behind your head?

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (52:51):
I think so, Yes, Yeah. I want to know why
they'd go all the way to Lamont where cog Hill
Golf Club or Golfing Country.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Are plenty of golf clubs in the city of Chicago exactly.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Because they and Alan would show up and murder them.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
Well, honestly, they probably couldn't afford it. Those ones in
the city are expensive.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Oh really, I think so.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
I don't know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
I don't know either.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
I want to rock with you, girl, I want to
rock with you with the golf tea behind my ear?

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Yeah, yeah, okay, anything else about their date?

Speaker 2 (53:33):
I hope they get every terrible thing they deserve great.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Yeah, Okay, well she's gonna she's gonna destroy him.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Oh probably, yeah, probably she's not. Yeah, they're not gonna
last oh yeah. Uh and he's gonna then he's gonna
be heartbroken yeah and go crying to his mommy in
his basement. Okay, anything else about Michelle or Madison and
David date and now we got to go to the
warehouse where they all meet up together, which I'm like, oh,

(54:06):
this is going to be yeah so so yes, m
m any KG Gabby day again.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
KG is just so disrespectful to her, and he is
just delusional, Like does he really think we don't see
through how he acted the whole season and how mm
was truly only reacted when you would push her like
so yeah and him yelling at her. I didn't like that.

(54:36):
I felt like, I don't know, I feel like the
everybody else too, was so complacent. Nobody like really said
anything other than Carla. God bless Carla for like her
eyes and being like that would have been me. I
would have been the Carla like what are you? You
are a bitch ass. I'm gonna say the rest, but
uh yeah, Like I just felt like, especially when he

(54:57):
started yelling at her, getting all heated with his raised
I was like, come on of these like man, step
in and say like be like calm down, like what
I just can't stand him? And yeah, it's on site
for him too in the streets of Chicago because he was.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
He was rude to her. But anytime they had like
a meet up with an expert, like he always came
in with like this punk ass attitude. Yes, every single time.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
The only thing that I will defend him on the
only thing is I do feel like at a certain
point she was kind of egging him on a little
bit because she would get upset, say her thing, and
then she would stop and he would start to speak,
and then she would go let me finish. And she
did it multiple times, and I was like, see, my

(55:44):
only thing is is I feel like that there was
enough of a break in the conversation that, like, to me,
I would be like, oh, she is finished, but then
she was like, no, let me finish. I feel like
she was kind of egging him on a little bit.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
I hate I feel that, but I support that.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
I love her. I love her. She can do no
wrong in my eyes. But I do just want to
give him his like little little inkling of like okay,
the baby, the baby to be a little quinky. But
that's that's it.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
I feel whenever it gets to the point in a
relationship where you're let me finishing each other, the relationship
is finished. Yeah, everyone's like let me know, let me finish,
like but and you're like, oh my god, just end it.
Just be done because either one of you can communicate.
It's awful, Like stop. I mean, she's still upset and

(56:41):
I would be too. He basically called her a sexual
assault her like on National assassinated.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
He tried to like ruin her light, her reputation she has.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
This is a professional yeah, Margo, she has a business.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
Are you kidding me? Dude, Like what are you doing?
That's so awful?

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Thank god, the that they you know, the producers and
the editors, didn't you know like that that she came
off as like not doing that right because like he's
a liar or he's a he's a scumbag. I don't know,
he's probably both. He's a child, for sure, Like he's
definitely a child. But that was like a big claim

(57:25):
to make about somebody. It's like you better know what
you're doing. When you say something like that, it's awful. Yeah,
and I would it would be very hard for me
to get over something like that. And that's I think
where all of her feelings are coming from.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Oh, you can tell that she was holding back. Everything
was simmering just under the surface, you know. And when
all that shit was going on, she wanted to go
off on him. But she can't. She can't as a
black woman, she cannot.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
And he knows how to. He knows all that. That's
the most horrible part about it is he knows that. So, Yeah,
he just kept wanting to push her and push her.
So then yeah, when she's saying the thing about the circus, he's, oh,
my gosh, I can't believe she's calling me names, being
aggressive using that word. Yeah, all the stuff he could do,
he truly is the He truly is dumb because he

(58:18):
knows the effects of those words as a black person. Yeah,
he is trash. So and the fact she still tried. Yeah,
after he said basically she sexually assaulted me, She's like, wait,
hold on, you put my hand on your crotch area.
So I felt like maybe we were vibing, like he
was a miscommunication, not a sexual assault. She still continued

(58:43):
to try after he called her aggressive. After all these things,
she still was like, well let me see if it
could work. So yeah, no, and Kachie, you're done.

Speaker 5 (58:51):
I mean, she's You're right, she is, she was doing.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
She was so good, Like she's very evolved, not maybe
not as evolved as Carla, but she's getting there, do
you know what I mean? Like she she's like me,
I can't regulate my emotions like that. I can't keep it,
you know, one hundred when like that.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
Kind of but somehow Carla can't.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
I mean, although you know, Carla was not in that situation,
but she was watching it go down, and she's like,
very honest, but she doesn't get her feelings elevated. But
I do I think that also, you know, EMM had
a point because I think a kch did show up
in a joker suit like to that when she.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
Called him a clown, wasn't anywhere something like that too.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
He looked like he was straight out of the Joker anyway.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
Terrible, Oh god, it is awful.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
He is so trash. I cannot believe how he applied
for two different shows and still does not I'm still
I'm still I can't get over this, and then they
chose him.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Yeah, I'm waiting for him to show up because the
next one's in Austin. I'm waiting for him to go
back to Texas. Let's try it again and Austin.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Oh my god, Austin is going to be ah and
that one's on Peacock so fun. Oh my god, Austin
is a wild place to be wild.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
There's so many weirdos there, it's going to be insane.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Yeah, was there he was in Houston? Oh was it Houston.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
To Austin Austin. Austin and Houston are like Austin is
like you know what Austin is going to be like,
it's going to be closer to like New Orleans where
there's all these characters, because that is a city where
like so many I mean, they're their whole slogan is
keep Austin weird. Yeah, it's like they and they're all there,
so been there or live there. It is exactly as advertised.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Yeah. Yeah, I just have one more thing to say
about this particular uh meet up and Carla, Carla trying
to do her energy thing and uh when she said
that Kach was amazing and and mm, you're amazing. And

(01:01:05):
I was like, did you say amazing? Amazing? Yes? What
is it was that she was trying to say amazing?

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Listen, Carla was high as fucked.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
Her nipple was hanging out. How could anyone concentrate on
anything with her nipple just right out there? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I didn't see it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
They blurred it, Yeah, they blurred it, but it was.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Tattoo underneath her breast.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Oh, I have to watch it again. How you do? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Because I was in there going, is she wearing like
a flush colored shirt? No, but that's a tattoo? Like whoa?
She just like straight up her just had a button
down completely open.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Well, she's free.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
She was like, one couldn't get rid of it with this,
that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Yeah, she hadn't shown anybody. Those tatos were like two months,
so that's right. You want me somebody look.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Yepkay, I better do it. I just love that they
were like the producers are like, yep, she doesn't need
a shirt.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
We'll just wear that post. Let's keep rolling.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
It's like nobody else will gonna nobody's gonna say something
like Carlo, your shirt, Like, I don't know if you
want to you let me know my titty's hanging out?

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Oh my god. Yeah, I'm gonna have to go back
and look at that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
Oh yeah, you do you do? How did you miss that?

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
I don't know. I don't know. That's probably because I
was fixated on her saying amazing. Yes, I was like,
what it's like, It's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
Let's start saying it like that. I want to be her.
I'm also gonna just start walking around with my titties
hanging out?

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
I mean, I agree and take me titties out. It's
an inside joke that only Jonesy will know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Now we're officially using podcast time for on inside.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Okay, promoted straight man, I'm going to promote my inside jokes.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
I know what is wrong with me? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Do we have anything else to say about this episode?

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Fuck Madison and she wishes she could take on Michelle,
but Michelle would take her down any day.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Well, I have to say this, Gabby, please figure out
where one's warehouse lair is. Okay, because I would love
to know this.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
I'll do the report. I'll send a video into for
the next podcast, so I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Do amazing, amazing Okay. So uh, well, you know I'll
go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Oh were you wrapping things up? Because I had some
things to say. Because back to the conversation that they
had well and I guess we'll be continuing to have,
is when the girl sort of walked away because EMM
was upset, and then you know one or whoever was
asking David, oh, what what are you to you now?

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
David?

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
And David just like I'm I'm courting Madison, I'm you know,
in love with her basically, and Alan's sitting right there
and I don't know, and then the whole conversation with
everybody coming back. I just felt like, like, why are
we allowing this to continue? Why is no one stopping
like we don't care, do what you gotta do, But
why again are we talking about it so disrespectfully in
front of Alan like and Michelle? And then yeah, I

(01:04:24):
can't wait for the next episode where they continue this
conversation again with babe, you want to come talk about
a babe?

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Oh yeah, there's gonna be a throwdown. Did you guys
clock Madison's ie makeup? I'm sure you did. It was
like red.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Red like, yeah, she's leaning.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Into the villain, Red red Lip and the red eye.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Oh, my god.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
She looked like straight out of Star Trek, Like, what
you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
It's giving pink guy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
Pink guy. She's like, she's like, you want a villain,
You're gonna get a villain.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Yeah, he's all about it. And I'm like, go ahead, girl,
in your villain era. We're all just gonna out like you.
And yeah, that's then you can just lean on David.
That's all you're gonna have is David. So I hope
you are happy with your choice.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
I don't know if i'd want just that man is
the only thing to lean on in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Yeah. I mean she'll come to that conclusion at some point.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
They're perfect for each other though, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
It's almost as if they should have been matched.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
All right, well I don't have anything else to say.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Okay, all right, well yeah, uh Gabby, do you have
any shows or anything coming up in Hershey, Pennsylvania or no?

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Well I no, no, I do not. I do not.
That's trip to Chicago.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
That's that's the other trip to Chicago. So if anyone
wants to send any tips or reach out or new
friends in Chicago or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Where that mead bar is please in the next two weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Maybe housing tip Savani Bay's Cool wants a roommate. I
don't know. Maybe you don't need a roommate. Maybe you're
doing fine. You can afford a warehouse in Chicago by yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Well you won't need a roommate in Chicago.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Yeah, you'll be able to find something summer. You have
any shows coming up? Well?

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
I have, Oh, I have kind of a show. I'm
teaching a stand up comedy class in Los Angeles that
starts on Thursday, which is the sixth of March, Thursdays
in March. It's a stand up comedy crash course. I'm
also teaching a New Foundations course for acting, Anthony Mindel's

(01:06:38):
Actor Workshop, So please if you want sign up. There's
no prior experience needed for either of these. So we're
gonna We're gonna do shows as stand up comedians in
this class. So if aboy wants to do that, hit
me up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Nice Schyler.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
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Rock Hard Tits. We sold out the first time. People
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Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
Is it sham rock hard tips this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Time because it's March, it is sham rock hard tits.
If you like eighties music, if you like beautiful ladies,
if you like hanging out, if you like you know alcohol,
if you like bars, if you like me, if you
like anything, just come to the show. And tickets are

(01:07:40):
a great price, but they're selling quickly, so check it
out now.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
And if you like dancing because the dance numbers are incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
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Speaker 5 (01:07:53):
It's amazing, amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
It's amazing cool.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
And then Earthquake Show is on Saturday, six pm Gold
Rail Bar in Glendale, Saturday date the eighth, March eighth.
It is a free show. They have happy hour until
seven pm. So yeah, so come out and laugh with

(01:08:19):
us on birthquake. Okay, cool, great, all right, Well thank
you to our guest Gabrielle Dixon.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
Yay, that was.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
A lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Yay, yeah, yay. Oh that's not what I want to do.
What am I trying to do? And the thing, Hang
on a second, where's the thing we're still recording? Because
I can't hear you