Season 4 Episode 22-Season Finale Guest Juan Franco!!!

Sommer, Schuyler and Jamie talk with Juan Franco from Season 18 of Married At First Sight


Juan-IG-@juan_franco_il & @flightmateapp
www.juanchosponchos.com



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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to Mad and Finally Single.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Jamie Blair, I'm Summer Austin, I'm Skyler Fast and
no Jones.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
And this is a meredivers I fan podcast where we
invite a guest on who's never watched an episode. Hey, everybody,
welcome to another episode of Mad and Finally Single. Okay,
I'm trying not to squeal like a little school girl,
but I'm very excited about this guest that we are
so so Skylar, We're excited.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yes, okay. So normally, as all of our millions of
listeners know, we try to have a guest on who
has never seen the show, but we like to make
exceptions every once in a while, and so today I
am very excited to say that we have somebody on
who has not only seen the show, but has lived
the show. He is a fan favorite of ours on

(00:53):
this podcast. We love him, We adore him. Ladies, gentlemen,
they them's one and only one, Wancho Franco, the one
and only.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
He's a he's a comedian. Yes, yeah, I think maybe
you are. Why can you tell us a little bit
about yourself? What would you like to us to know?

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Let's see, so I mean I guess you guys know,
I mean, everyone knows a lot, you know. You know,
I grew up in North Carolina, so I'm a like
a it's a weird thing. Like I'm a Latino country
boy at heart, you know, I do like country music.
I grew up in like a little town called Statesville.
I want to give a shout out to States of

(01:44):
North Carolina. Boy, Carolina, Statesill, North Carolina. Man, it's a
they call it the Crossroads of the future, but nothing's
changed in the past twenty years. Every time I go
back and everything's the same. What are you guys talking about, man,
change the slogan? Yeah, yeah, no. I come from very

(02:08):
humble beginnings, you know. We I mean, if you guys
saw on the show, I came from some pretty deep
poverty that comes with like the territory of come like
kind of showing up to a different country with you know,
one hand in the front and one hand in the
back kind of speak.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
So I've kind of I mean, you know, it's one
of those things where you defy the odds. Really, you know,
you're you're a minority, you're uh, you're you're poor, you know,
and and I feel like where I am now is
like wow, like I'm so thankful to God every day.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Wow, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Where I am.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
And that's kind of you know, me in a nutshell,
you know, just trying to do my best on this
on this planet, just like you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's great. I love that well.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I also it's a great inspiring story.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yes, I think we were really inspired by your journey,
and especially the episode where you wrote the letter to
your younger self. That was really great.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Oh my god, that was that was such a great
moment to me. Honestly, it was like I I worked
in the past relationship.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I had, you know, I.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
I've had some great relationships, like I've never I've never
had any issues with any of my exes. In fact,
like when I posted the picture of my new girlfriend
on my social media, like three or four of my
exes went on there and literally like wrote messages like
in the in in the comments, like saying like congratulations,

(03:35):
you's beautiful. So that just goes to show you that's
the kind of like friendships I keep with with the
people that I've been with in the past, and uh,
and even people that were like very serious relationships, you know,
but in the when the one in the most recent relationship.
Before MAPS, I did a lot of therapy because you know,
it's it's always about listening to people and to improve yourself,

(03:56):
you know, like I'm far from perfect, you know, so
I did therapy. I did a couples therapy, and I
would go to therapy like twice a week, you know.
And when you have like such a anyone that's experienced
like maybe losing a parent when they're younger, which I
haven't fortunately, but anyone that has any kind of issues
with their father or mother or they or they went
through something like I went through, they have a They

(04:19):
have some deep rooted issues that sometimes they're not they're
right in front of you. It's like if they were
a snake, they'd bite you, you know, but then you
don't realize it until you get a different perspective. So
what my therapist and I uncovered through therapy was like
one day he was like, you know what, you have
abandonment issues. That's that's really what it comes down to.

(04:39):
And when you lash out, it's not your like thirty
eight year old self, it's like your seven.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Year old self, you know.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
So it's like becoming aware of what's going on with that.
But what was really awesome about that particular situation experience
was that the I was really excited about that exercise
because that was like closing the loop. And that's why, God,
it was it was like figuring out the one. The
first part is figuring out what those issues are from

(05:09):
your childhood, so for you to be able to figure
out a solution and understand how to cope with that,
you know, and understand like when it's manifesting itself, how
to kind of control it. The second part is like
turning the page. And for me that that night was
like turning the page. It was just like I was like,
I don't even know how much people do this, you know,
it was wild.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Wow, that's awesome, that's so deep. I love it.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, it is a powerful extra. So I've done it.
I've done it before you.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
But again, actually, yeah, it's powerful.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
It really is so.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Skuy or Jamie. I know you guys have a couple
of questions for want I have so many, but I'll
let you guys. I just wanted to hear about that extra.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
With questions.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Its hot pocket. That's how Actually there's there's Eric Hutchison.
I don't know if you guys ever heard of him,
he's a he's an artist, he's a he's a singer.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
And he says that in one.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Of his life like shows, and I always using I
stole that from him.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
I thought it was funny, so I use it all
the time.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
As long as you give credit where credits due. That's
what a creat do you know what I'm saying? And
like I said, I think you're a comedian, Wan do
you think you are?

Speaker 4 (06:24):
I think I try to be. I hope my girlfriend
enjoys my stand ups for her. I do perform for
her all the time, you know, Like, Oh, you know,
what's funny about the whole the guitar scenes is like
I love playing the guitar. And what people I need
to understand is that I'm not a musician. I'm just
the regular that guy with the guitar that likes to
play it, you know. So whenever I do mostly covers,

(06:45):
you know. And the way I learned was by watching YouTube.
And I know, like a whole set of songs and
I've learned them all by like literally watching the YouTube
video like somebody the tutorial and then I play it.
But I know all covers, so like they can't play those.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
On national right, So then they're like, yeah, just make
something up.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
I'm like, okay, I'm not great at doing the improvm,
you know.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
So it's like I'm like, yeah, you know, we're out here.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Doing and everybody, all the viewers are.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Like, keep your day job. Many choice they threw me
in the fire Man.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
That's so funny. I haven't even thought about the fact that.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Those songs of course, cat Oh my gosh, so many
behind the scenes things. Well, Scott, do you have any
other questions about them behind the scenes or.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Anything that you Oh my goodness, So we have eight
thousand and one thing. So one of the things that
I am so curious about, because early on one of
our guests was a reality TV show producer, is like
giving her take on a lot of things that were
happening in the episode. So it was one of the
honeymoon episodes, and it was the one where you guys
crashed the boat. Carla gets out and you're like, how

(08:09):
did you stay dry? And our producer friend was like,
oh no, that was planned and somebody a pa messed
up and she wasn't really like the boat crashing. It happened.
Carla was supposed to be wet, so they had to
cover it really quickly. So we were curious. I was
curious more than anything. Was the boat crash? Did it? Actually?

Speaker 4 (08:28):
So here's the deal, Like, I'll be honest with you,
maybe they What happened was the day before there was
a little canoe behind our our you know, and I'm
not sure if this is sewage water, what kind of water?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
God, Yeah, we went for a.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Ride and so we went, we got in there, we
went for a ride, and we got all the way
down and that that day there was like a people
in production were walking across a little bridge and we're
like hey, So then the next so then they were like, oh,
we want to do that with you guys. That's so fun,
you know. So we got in the canoe and we

(09:03):
took off, you know, like we were just like Columbus
out there just fucking you know, going to see the
new world, you know, and there was mosquitos fucking everywhere.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
And we got to one little like uh bungalow and
there was a big canoe in the way. So I
was like, oh shit, we're going to crash into the
canoe and then we just capsized our little canoe, you know.
But but it wasn't according to me, it wasn't planned
like I that was all like the canoe ride was planned,
but not us capsizing the canoe.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well, then how she stayed dry? Was it like shallow water?

Speaker 4 (09:37):
She stayed dry?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I don't know how she's.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Magic because she's magic.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Her witchcraft because wait a second.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Way, wait wait, I love the water.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I just needed to confirm. So you did capsize the boat.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
We did capsize the boat.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, but Carlos stayed dry.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Carlos stayed dry, and you didn't burn.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Her at the stake afterward.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's a magical unicorn.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
She is no, she is planet.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I know right. We were like,
she's very much Ella. I mean, that's how everyone is
here because I was like thatt rare to find someone
like that in Chicago, but maybe not nowadays. I don't know.
I haven't been there five years.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I don't know. Now I'm going to ask you this question.
I don't know if you can answer it, but I'm
going to ask anyway, where when did you all shoot
the reunion show?

Speaker 4 (10:40):
So we shot the reunion show like this past year.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Okay, so it's twenty twenty four. How about the where
are They Now? Then? That was a few months after
the reunion show?

Speaker 4 (10:49):
It was like a month after so like I think
we shot the reunion November, and we shot.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
The where are They Now in like December?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Okay, and then something like that, Yeah, can we act?

Speaker 3 (11:02):
We've been so I'm terrible with dates.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I don't no, no, no, it's okay. We mar.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah, we were trying to Birthday's coming up like in
a couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
But happy moms, Oh your mom, Oh nice.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Happy birthday mom. We we were all also curious. We
cannot figure out and neither can Reddit for that matter,
when they shoot the after party episodes.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
So we started shooting those right in about August of
this past year.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
So they shoot them after that. You shoot after Party
after the full season has been shot.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, yeah, because obviously they got to go through editing
and you know, so that way we can see the
but during the after Party, we're like actually seeing some
of the footage back and we have never seen it before.
I mean, the hardest part about the whole thing was
that we it was like over a year since. I mean,
you live a lot of life. I mean, we shot
this thing in twenty twenty three, and like we started

(11:59):
in August, so it takes I mean, the whole process was,
like we started casting for this in April of twenty
twenty three. What about that, And we're just now getting
ready to be divorced you know.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, Well divorce takes a while. Two of us have
been divorced here, and it takes it takes a while.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yeah, I mean it depends on like how you know,
if it's if it's you know, if they're if both
parties are willing to just go you know, part ways clean,
which is the.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Ideal situation, which is not always the situation.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Right, absolutely, yeah, but even if they are, it still
sometimes takes a while. So because I think you have to,
at least in in Illinois, I think you have to,
like co you have to be out of like living
on your own for six months before you can even file.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Right.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Well, we've been we've been separated for that matter for
over a year now, yeah, you know, because we left
the apartment. We left like November, middle of November of
twenty twenty three, so you know, like ye, yeah, I
mean this should be a pretty clean break.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
You guys know about a clean break? You guys ever
heard about a clean break?

Speaker 4 (13:08):
You know what that is?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Where is it like a like split right down the
middle or like you mean like a bone brak.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Oh no, I think he means a clean break from
a relationship.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
No, not even.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
When I was younger, one of my buddies he went
to the bathroom, you know, and and it was like
super quick, and then he came out and he was like,
I didn't even have to wipe. It was a clean break.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Oh yes, Oh.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well, that's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
I always called it ghost poop what like it wasn't
even there.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
But okay, but even if you don't have to he
did wipe, right, like he did wipe even though you
didn't have to write.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
I think so, and you know, it comes back.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
It came back negative, you know, came back negative.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Great, start filtering that into my conversation. That's great.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Oh my gosh, clean break.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Wait, so many bathroom terms on the show without you have.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, so okay, just real quick, sorry, guys, Like if
you goes, just go back to after party. So it's
over a year. You've lived this life. You're trying to
stay present in the moment right, like it's just happened.
So how do you I mean, are they are the
producers sort of in your ear talking to you, trying
to keep you like.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
You know, so, yeah, the producers are in like the
host years. We don't have any kind of we don't get.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Oh they don't They're not in your ear.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
No, we don't get. We don't get it like those
ear pieces or anything. But if we say something that
like doesn't match the context, yeah, they'll be like hey,
you know, like can you say this and like the
present tense. But for me, it's like I went through
all these transformations, the evolution of Juan's facial hair, you know,
so it's like it was a it was pretty obvious.
Like I'm sitting there like doing a clean shaven, doing

(15:00):
after party, and then I got this like foo man
chew from hew. Oh that thing is that thing? Listen?
That thing's got superpowers.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
When I had when I get that thing, like, it's hard.
It's hard to keep my girlfriend off of me?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
What is it about a man and a mustache?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
It's so great.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
The website.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
The website is actually live. It's live. You can go
to Juanchos Ponchos dot com and obviously it was Carla's idea,
so we decided, you know, she I don't think she
actually thought that I was going to actually like go
through with it, Like she didn't think that. I don't
think she thought that I was going to go through
with it, because before before she hit the fan, she
texted me and she was like, hey, are you still

(15:49):
Are you still doing this Wanchos Ponchos. I'm like, yeah,
Like listen. One thing about me is that I rarely
say I'm going to do something and I don't go
through with it. So like whenever we had the idea,
I was like, absolutely and go through with it. And
so it's up. We have a couple of items for
sale on the shop and it's like a sticker and
also like a notebook. Because one of the things that

(16:10):
they did in air on the show that I was
very surprised was that I took back in college, I
took this class of psychology of marriage in the Family,
and one of the things that I learned about that
class was that like marriage contracts actually statistically they show
to help couples actually succeed in marriages. And I thought

(16:31):
that that was pretty interesting. And when people think about
marriage contracts, they automatically think about like money, and but no,
these are like everyday things that you write in there.
And so I was like, you know, it'll be interesting
to do this during this experiment to see if it
helps us with our communication.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
You know.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
So we had a notebook, So we have a notebook
on for sale on the shop. It's called the Couple's Notebook.
And then we're going to have we're also going to
have the ponchos. But unfortunately, like we're using shopify and
we're having a hard time finding a fact break like
someone to make the ponchos. So like, if anybody out
there is watching, then knows someone that makes ponchos, reach
out to me. And then we're looking for a bag

(17:09):
for the prison bag, you know, take the big bag incident.
And then so those are those are the two items
we're looking for. And then also we're we're gonna make
t shirts with a lot of the things that like
a lot of the funny things that that we said
during the show.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Oh that's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
The cool part about it is we're gonna split you know, obviously,
we're gonna split the profit fifty to fifty, but my
half of the profits, So my fifty percent of the
profits half of it, I'm gonna donate to the charity.
So I'm gonna make it interactive because I'm going to
ask my followers to, like, you know, at the end
of every month, to send me a DM with like
the charity of their choice.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
And I'll try to vet them out. I'll call the
person and then you.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Know, if it's five bucks, you know, they'll get to
two dollars and fifty cents. I'll get two dollars and
fifty cents, and then Carla will get the other five bucks.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
If it's one thousand dollars, then we're gonna you know.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
But I've always want to have a platform to be
able to help people. So I was like, you know,
this is a this is a perfect opportunity. God put
me in this place for a reason, and I want
to try to use it for a good cause.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
You know, Oh, that's great one. I want the couples.
That is very cool. What a great idea. Yeah, so
you guys just kept it on the counter and you
just would like back and forth talk to each other.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
So basically, anytime we had kind of issues, like you
would use that that And I think every couple should
have some kind of written because here's the problem when
you have arguments as a couple.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
When you have.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Arguments, it's always like pointing fingers and he said, she said,
And then everybody manipulates the you know, the conversations you
ever had in the past, because it's it's it's almost impossible.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
To remember how everything went down.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Yeah, everyone should have like a notebook to keep each
other accountable. This is what I need, you know, from you.
This is what I need from you. This is how
we we had this issue, and this is how we
resolved it, you know, So it's.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Important they should.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
My girlfriend, my current girlfriend, and I have a notebook too.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
You know.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
In fact, I'm glad we're talking about it because we
need to, like we kind of fell off of it,
but we need to get back into it. You know,
we haven't had we haven't had any real issues. I mean,
you know, obviously being on this show has has really
it's tough for her. I mean, like she's yeah, for me,
I think she's like a superstar because having to deal
with all this, I mean on top of like whatever
she has person she's personally dealing with is it's got

(19:28):
to be tough on her, you know. So I tell
her all the time, like, you know, thank you so
much for putting up with this. You know, I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
And I'm sure you guys probably have had to keep it,
you your relationship under wraps big time, big time.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
So anytime she together. She lives in Brazil, so anytime
she come visit, it's like, oh, we could just hang
out in my apartment, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
My gosh, Wow, what's it like one going from like,
you know, regular person to like having that amount of
attention so quickly and maybe not even like not getting
the real story.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, So it's a little bit tough because, like I
believe that people deep down are good people everyone, you know,
and I believe that every well all of the cast
members were, despite of their decision making on the show.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
We're we're just trying to do our best, you.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Know, And you do get a lot of support, but
you do get a lot of like sometimes I feel
like I just kind of stop reading the comments because
you know, sometimes it's like no matter what you say
or do, like people are just gonna eat you alive,
you know, And and read it. I think Reddit's one
of those places where you know, if anyone that's watching

(20:36):
it has a Reddit and is active on Reddit. And
if you guys, this is no offense to you, guys.
I don't mean to offend anyone. This is just my
opinion about Reddit. I think it's it's almost like a joke.
It's a bunch of like people are too afraid to
speak their mind in person. Yeah, and they go on
there and they just blast everyone. It's like, Lukee, if
you have something to say, say it to my face,

(20:56):
you know, like why are you having behind a little emoji?
And like, for example, when I first went on the show,
there was a person on there that knows me in
real life that went on there and this wasn't even aired,
and you could tell they knew me, but they didn't
know me very well. And they went on there and
blasted me. And I reached out to them directly and
I said, hey, listen, like I'm a pretty approachable person,
you know, and if you know me in real life,

(21:17):
just like, if there's something that bothers you about me,
like you can you can, you can tell me And
and I listen, I get it, Like we're not perfect,
Like I'd love the feedback and I love the constructive criticism.
That way I can try to like, you know, reflect,
you know, but that's that's what I look at. I mean,
I went on Reddit and I was just like, yeah,
it's me, it's wan like I don't have a big

(21:37):
there's no like, what's a big secret? Like, you know,
I don't have to go in there and be anonymous,
like you guys have already seen me on TV?

Speaker 3 (21:44):
What matter?

Speaker 4 (21:45):
What difference does it make if I go on there
and and just be myself, you know, and answer questions
and stuff?

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Oh did you do an am on there?

Speaker 4 (21:53):
I was gonna do it, and I was, but I
was gonna wait, Like I was gonna do it yesterday,
but I decided to not do it just because of
everything that's happened and recently, so I thought, you know,
it's better to just not do it because like this,
this has just been crazy.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
So yeah, I decided to not do it.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah. Yeah, Jamie Skyler, I know you've got some questions.
What do you got?

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Well, I'm curious. Oh I'm sorry, did you have Well
I'm very curious because I mean, you're so entrepreneurial. I mean,
I really admire your entrepreneurial brain. Uh and I'm and
being from Chicago, you know, when wearing my Wrigley feet.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
I didn't even notice that that's so cool.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
This warehouse that you've got, what what neighborhood is this in?

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (22:43):
So so, so just to clear things up, it's not
my warehouse. It's my business partner, Tyler, and it's in
Humble Park. And so basically, yeah, yeah, he has he
has a business. It's it's called Chicago Fabrications, and we
did a lot of we do a lot of stuff together,
so like, for example, we could do like commercial projects.

(23:04):
So like it's it's kind of weird to talk about
this stuff because a lot of people that are out
there don't really know a lot about construction, I think,
especially like the intricacies about it. So they're like, we
don't really know what one does. What the hell does
one do? I still haven't figured it out. So you know,
basically what happens is we either we do two types
of projects. There's custom fabrication. So like let's say you

(23:26):
call me and you're like, listen, I want to have
like I have this this tree and we want to
mill it and we want to keep the live edge
and we want to make an apoxy poor table out
of it with these really cool like steel brackets. So
we'll draw it up and then we'll make you a
custom table. We can do that now, a tangle like that,
it's like ten to twelve grand. You know, they're expensive

(23:48):
because it's a lot of work. And then but we
also do like institutional projects, so let's say there are
big a lot of this goes out the big you know,
like let's say a hospital wants to do an interior renovation.
They hire an architect, the architect sends it out forbidding,
the general contractors bid on it, and we would be subs.

(24:08):
We would be subcontractors, so we would do the interior
finish scope of the project, so all the cabinetry, the countertops,
and then we can throw some equipment in there. Like
I did a project recently where I did like in
a hospital, where we did the privacy curtains, you know.
So we do a lot of different things too. But
but so that's that's kind of like the function of

(24:29):
the of the warehouse. But when you have a warehouse,
a twenty thousand square foot warehouse, it takes like First
of all, the maintenance is just insane. You know, like
the roof will start leak in somewhere and then you
got to fix that, and then you have like a
gas leak here, and you got.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
To Chicago with the weather and everything.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, so that warehouse has gone through so many different transformations.
You know, Like Tyler loves boxing, which is why there's
a boxing ring in there, and he was, yes, it's crazy.
So he was also certific so he he has the
American Boxing Association or whatever. He he became a member partner,

(25:06):
so we had sanctioned boxing matches in there before.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Oh my god, this is why everyone's so confused about
what because there's They're like, there's a boxing room, rent,
so there's a boxing Yeah, it was really cool.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
So since we fabricate, then he was like, fuck it,
I'm going to build a rock climbing wall so that
the whole back part is a rock climbing wall. I
mean when you make yeah, when you make things, you
just make whatever you want, you know. And then here's
the here's the funniest part about this one. So this
Polish lady approaches Tyler and she's like, hey, listen, I

(25:43):
haven't after hours, and we want to do like a
swingers club after our swimmers club. So yeah, So so
Tyler was like, well fuck it. If you guys pay
the rent and you guys do the fit out, you
guys build it out, you guys can do whatever the
hell you want. So upstairs, her and one of her
other partners, which uh I think he was on the show, Brad,

(26:05):
which we worked with him a little bit. He's not
no longer like working with us. But they built that
whole club area upstairs. That's why that that's why that's
a club. But that never launched. But they spent a
shit ton of money in there. They probably spent one
hundred grand in that room and it never even we
never they never had one party.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh that's too bad. Listen, if anybody's out there listening
and you want a sex club that's already been built,
we've got Listen.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
There's a huge polyamorous community in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Well, yeah, I live next door to a sex club
in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
See there you go.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, so there's a market papers usually yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
But yeah, having a warehouse is an interesting thing because
people just reach out to you know, you have renters
in the back. People want to like have a photo
shoot whatever.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
You know.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Yeah, it takes a life of its own.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
So you can build all kinds of things. But I
did notice that you are still using the home depot.
Uh sorry, I got a zoomy cat around here. Depot
TV stand happening.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
So yeah, let me tell you about that, all right.
So what happened with that cart was we lived. We
lived in a in another building in Chicago, which is
one of those amenity buildings. You know, it's called it
a good place to live. It's called out to the signature.
And I lived there for like maybe a year and
a half when I and I moved in there, and
I didn't realize, like this building is like everyone that

(27:33):
lives there is like somebody in Chicago, you know, like
that's where all the like like celebrities live. And they're
like like so the soccer players, the Chicago Fire players,
a lot of them lived there. There's like there was
like one of my the guy parked the side of
for a long time. He played for the hockey team,
the Cubs, like picture I think lived in the building
at some point or one of the players. There's a

(27:55):
there's like all kinds of people that live in there. Well,
Tyler was living there too, so we were both been
in the building. And that summer I resigned from a
job and I had made some good money. So I
was just like whatever, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna do.
I'm just gonna hang out this summer. I want to,
you know, it's been a long time as I hung
out just like did nothing. So I was like the
yes man that summer, really, let's go out. It was

(28:16):
like Monday night, Like, fuck it, let's go out on Monday.
It's Tuesday. Let's go. Let's go, you know. And so
I was like, yes man. I was doing everything and
I would hang out by the pool. So Tyler was
always like, you know, let's let's go. Let's go out
to the warehouse, you know, come to my warehouse. And
that's how I met Tyler at the pool. And when

(28:37):
he moved out, that's his drivewall card. So I helped
him move out, but he never grabbed it. So then
I was like, this would be a cool TV stand.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
You know.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
So then I just used it as a TV stand.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
You know, and it's still going strong, it's.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Still right there.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Still.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Yeah, I'm thinking about changing it because, like you know,
my girlfriend moved in, and the apartments her like is
kind of slowly going from like a bachelor pad to
like an actual couples pad. So, you know, we're getting it.
Next week, we're gonna buy some new stools. In a
couple of weeks, we're gonna get a new couch, and
then we'll probably get you know, we'll probably get a
But she she has her own life in Brazil too,

(29:18):
but she goes back and forth and she's she's she's
she's super like successful too. She's got two apartments in Brazil.
One of them she rents out, the other one's on
Airbnb when she she's not there.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, we're gonna the drywall car. So what is her opinion?

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Hey babe, what do you think about my drywall cart?
The car that my TV is on? She did this
is fine.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
She's a keeper, yes.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
And she's laying in the havoc right now by the
way there.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
I definitely I had a few choice words about the
dry walk car. I won't lie. I don't did we
steal from I'm glad that we got that cleared out
of the clear up.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
That's funny, Jamie Skyler, I know you've got a few more.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yes, Okay, So this is this is the hardest hitting
question that I had. It's from the retreat and I
need to know, are you sponsored by a d T? Oh?

Speaker 4 (30:30):
God, you know what's funny? So I'll tell you real something,
real funny. So in our contract it says like that
anything that we promote outside of like the show, you
can uh, you can invoice, you know. So I was like,
fuck it, I'm gonna send him. When I saw it
on TV, I was like, I'm gonna send him an invoice.
Montrey called me and he's like, Wan, what the fuck

(30:51):
is this invoice all about. I'm like, well, shit, I
had to give it a shot, you know, like but
you know, it was like I had to try. I mean,
at least, you know, but that was a I mean,
I guess, like, so.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
You decided to do that without and just send ad
T an invoice that.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
You I said, I said, Connecticut invoice. Oh, but it
was it was you know, there's sponsors ad T sponsors
of the show, you know, I guess, so it was
it was. Yeah, it wasn't for me. It wasn't for
us to get paid. They're just sponsors of the show.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
But so did they want you to do that though,
Was this like send no just to do the little
promo because you're not the only one who did it.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Yeah, yeah, they wanted us to do it.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah, okay, okay, Well, I mean.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
At the end of the day, it's no, it's no
different than doing a commercial, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
No, No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, it usually sounds more natural.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Well exactly, except I don't think they've ever done that
before on the show Layton product placement, you know, it
was everywhere in Hollywood.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
So we're I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, you know,
I feel really safe for the.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, you guys, but we're watching it, like why they
feel safe white all and then like, so you guys
did it, and then somebody else, I think Camille did it,
did well.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
We were the only options because everybody, everybody like bailed
on the trip. You know, we were the only couple's looks.
There's nobody else to do a d T, so there's.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
No productions just like, hey, guys, somehow in the middle
of this scene, sneak in a line about a d
T who came up with a safety.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Like oh no, I think they had like a little
script they did Okay, okay, you guys like did you
take a look at it where you're like what?

Speaker 2 (32:42):
I just okay, sure.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
I was confused because I didn't know that that was
going to happen. So I was like, okay, this is
a little bit random, you know, but okay whatever.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, one of those when you're in
when you're a part of one of these shows, like
and like you know, you guys said you guys were
in reality TV. So dude, it's like every day so dynamic.
You don't really know what's going to happen, you know,
like every day is like they show up. I mean
obviously you kind of have an idea of when they're
going to come to shoot at your place. It's not
like they just drop a bomb on you and they

(33:13):
just I mean some days it would be like that
one day she no, no, there was no kind of calls,
but they would like text you and say hey, you know,
like this is what we're doing this week, you know,
and uh and like one day they were like hey,
one I was like middle of my workday, can you shoot?
It was like can you shoot at eleven today? And
it was like nine am. I was like sure, whatever,
you know, so, I mean, but ultimately I think they

(33:34):
were cool.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Man.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
I mean, you have a pretty cool job where you
can kind of do that. What about people don't who
have like a really like is it a real job?
Not a real job.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
But I'm messing with you. I'm messing with you.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Like it looked like she was trying to say that,
wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
I don't have a real job either, by the way, So.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Well, sometimes it feels weird, you know, because I'm a
sales guy, and if you're a good salesperson, you can
kind of get away with it.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
With anything at companies.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
And like I just started with this new company because
I do have a regular job too, on top of
like my startups, you know, and uh and one of
the on my in my regular job, like I've just
been killing it, you know, so like but there's no
office because you're constantly on the road, you're constantly missing customers.
So sometimes it does feel weird because you're like, you know,

(34:26):
I came from this world where my parents. I saw
my parents like working in the cleaning business. And like
my dad had two jobs when we first got to
this country, so he would work third shift cleaning at
like Sacksmith Avenue and in Connecticut, and then and then
he would go home after he got done with third
shift and he would go with the neighbor and work
and landscaping. So he worked first shift landscape and third

(34:49):
shift cleaning. So I saw so much responsibility. Sometimes I'm like,
I'm like, damn, Like I feel guilty for being at home,
like on the computer making them making things happen up,
you know, but you're.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Working hard though, I mean that's two. So obviously you
have to talk to your bosses, Like what kind of
a conversation is that, Like when you're like, hey, I've
been selected for this show and it's going to be intense?
How many? How often? Like how many? I guess it's
like eight weeks, but there eight.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Weeks, Like obviously the first week was the honeymoon, so
I just I just took that week off as a vacation.
And I never told my my my I never told
my company because I make my own schedules. So it's
like as long as it doesn't and when you're selling,
as long as you're in your numbers, they care. They
care less if you're waking up at ten o'clock in
the morning every day as long as you're selling like

(35:41):
it doesn't matter, you know, And I'm I've never not
hit my targets, you know, A b.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
C always be closing.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
I'm always coffee down.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Well listen. So we were we all were rooting for
you and Carla, we were rooting for you too. We
loved you too.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Great communication skills.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah yeah, really that was some good stuff. But you know,
it looked like you and David were going to have
a bromance there for a while and then it just
seemed to kind of fall off. Was that due to
his bad lying skills or wow.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Oh my god, David. You know the thing about that
whole situation is that David is a great, great guy.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
You know.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
The things that I've said, I've said to him and
I will I'm still I still stand by anything that
I said to David during the show. But you know,
we were all in really peculiar situations, you know, Like
I think as much as we like would love for that,
you know, married a first sight to have the success
rate and to like really produce happy couples, like we
all have to understand. I hate it, Like I know

(36:57):
people hate to hear me say this but it's a
TV show. You know, it's entertainment, so you know, and
and it at the end of the day, if it
wasn't the way that it's made, then none of us
would tune in to watch it because it's kind of
boring to watch couples just be happy, you know, think
about the people that got the most, you know, like

(37:17):
hype where like Michelle, Alan Madison, David a m M.
You know, these are the couples that went through the
roughest things on the show. Like Carla and I were
like pretty boring to watch, to be honest with you,
because we just were like, yeah, let's just go do this.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Thomas were more boring.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah, when Thomas were all love so this, so it
was pretty boring.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
But but you two were not boring because what was
going to come out of Carla's mouth?

Speaker 3 (37:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
It's and I'm surprised that none of this rubbed off
on you, Like don't you now like light candles and
try to clean your chakras and stuff?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Carrot cards and the left this past episode.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Yeah, I only like candles when I take a ship.
It smelled better.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Oh my god, you must have Oh my gosh, how
about that tantric yoga session with that.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Oh my god, that was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Oh my gosh, you're a smart one.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it was like I have
to say this, I feel really bad for the lady
because she got a lot of hate online and I know,
at the end of the day, she's just trying to
make money, dude. You know, that's her little business. And
you know, so like, you know, if anybody.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
She could have worn some underwear, she could have. I'm
just saying maybe, but it was.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
It was awkward. You know, it definitely was not you know.
I mean when they were like, oh, so, how do
you feel now after you did this, I'm like, it
didn't didn't move the needle. Guys, I'm sorry if anything,
like the guy the guy that like, like the tank
is empty.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
We need some more fool the opposite effect.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, I'm also curious because you are so stylish. You
were stylish on the reunion show. You You've just been stylish,
you know, so do you who dresses you? Do you
dress you?

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Unfortunately me? I addressed me.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, not unfortunately, No, no, no, you're very stylish. I
love your style.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Thank you. So the the you know, it's funny during
the there was a sweater, a distress swetter that I
wore during the uh the Couples retreat, and I got
that from Zara, you know, and I thought that was
pretty cool. But I mean it was like in one
of the I mean, I don't know, I thought it
was pretty cool. Some people were like, oh, that want sweater.

(39:45):
It looks like he he put his arm in like
a machine or something like that.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Hey, okay, so one, how are you seeing all of
these comments? Like are you going online? Because you said
you don't see him, but how are you getting that?

Speaker 4 (39:58):
So I was for a while, like, you know, I
would go online and look at it. It's like curiosity
kill the cat, you know, it's impossible not to. Like,
I think we all, even Michelle. I think when I
looked at her Instagram, she would always post posting the
tweets of the night, you know, for her. Yeah, so
you do see some comments on there and obviously, like
some stuff is a little bit triggering. I think the
things that triggered me the most, or the things about

(40:20):
like my professional life, because I have worked so hard
to have everything that I have, and like, for example,
the app, the app, you know, I think when you
talk about statistics and you look at like, for example,
when you look at numbers like how many people if
you ever search like Google search, how many people in
the US make over two hundred thousand dollars a year.

(40:41):
It's a very small percentage, you know, It's like it's
not double digits for sure. It doesn't make it past
ten percent. You know, it's like between five and eight percent.
So when you took when you take a look at
those numbers, that shows you that the people that are
really killing it out there, it's a small few, and
it's and the reason they're killing it is because they're
the ones that are taking the risk. Without risk, there's

(41:03):
no reward.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
You know.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
So like at the end of the day, like what
I decided to do with the app, even with flight Maate,
you know, even if it doesn't ever punt no punt,
intend to take off, like I did something that ninety
five to ninety nine percent of the people in the US,
in the world wouldn't even take the chance to do.
Like when I got that quote for the app, it

(41:26):
was two hundred thousand dollars to develop it, and I said,
let's do this. And to this day I have no
debt on the app.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Anyone money for the for the development of the app.
So it's like, you know, that's why you call someone
an entrepreneur, because even if it fails or succeeds, you
are an entrepreneur because you're willing to take You're willing
to to take the pain that no one else is
willing to take.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
You should go on Shark Tank next.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
They'll leave me alive.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Man. So I love that show, do you guys love?

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Oh my god?

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Yeah, I mean I think it's a great show. But
my buddy was on it with the with the beard bib.
You know that that bib that I wore to shape. Yeah, yeah,
he was on it with that thing.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
That's amazing. Well, you know, I don't know if you
are such an entrepreneur. You have so many like pans
in the fire that maybe you know that you might
even be developing. This might be so many.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Apps, you know, yeah, something else.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
I've had ideas for other apps. I had a good idea.
I have an idea for a restaurant. So like, you know,
if this doesn't work out, we'll do something else.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
It's all good, you know, Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I have an idea for restaurants too. We should get together.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
And I have I have a pretty good one. Yeah,
if you want to hit me up.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Jamie's a lot of ideas about businesses too. Yes, yes,
And I agree with you about taking the big risk.
And I think being un married at first sight is
a big risk that you took.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
You know.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
What's funny is I was actually getting ready to say that. Look,
whenever you go into any I'm a very logical and
practical person, right, So, whenever you go into anything, whether
it's in business, whether it's a friendship or relationship, married
at first site. For me anyways, this is just for me,
I always look at it like, Okay, what are the

(43:17):
risk and what are the rewards? You know. So, like,
the risk of going into into into my business flight mate,
is that I'm going to lose two hundred g's right.
That was a risk that I was willing to take.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
You know.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
The reward is that I could turn into a billionaire. Yeah, right,
that was a risk that I was willing to take.
The risk of going un married at first sight is
that they present you with a person that doesn't match
with you.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Right.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
The reward is that you find your partner for a lifetime.
That's a risk that I was willing to take, you know.
It's and that's everything in life. So like, I don't
think there's a right or wrong approach to the show.
I think you just got to go in there with
the best possible attitude.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Do you think being on the inside of it, that
everyone's there for the as I say, the right reasons,
like to find love.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
You know this question, because everybody is like out there
telling me like, oh, you know, Juansa, he wasn't on
there for the right reason reasons. Like on another podcast,
I was very I was very transparent, I was very honest.
I went in it for both reasons. I went in
it to find my partner, but also knowing that it's
a TV show, you know, like at the end of

(44:28):
the day, kinetict wants to make good TV, you know.
And but I and I've had this conversation with my
girlfriend now, like I would never change it because I
feel blessed to have her in my life. But if
I was presented with someone that I felt could be
a life partner, I wouldn't even be in this relationship
right now, you know, I would have stayed with that person,

(44:50):
so I, of course, yeah, like I was at the time,
I was very single. Even though I knew her, I
didn't know her for long, you know, I just I
just met her for one weekend, and yes, we planned
on seeing each other again, but there was nothing definitive sure.
And if it would have worked out with my marriage,
you know, I'm married. At first sight, this this relationship
wouldn't exist. But again I'm very thankful that it didn't

(45:12):
work out because I'm with her and she's amazing, you know.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
That's awesome. I have a question for you about the casting.
Can I ask you? Are you guys?

Speaker 4 (45:20):
Do you feel like yeah, I think we could talk
about the casting process.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah, in the casting do they how long does that last?
And do they do like I don't know if this
is a rumor or what like, do they do like
all kinds of crazy things before to match, you like
to that you like get to know the person even
though you don't know them, like pheromone testing and shit
like that.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Is that like they don't do anything like that, so
it takes a while, like I.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Started, of course, Jesus, they send.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
My blood samples in to see if like you know,
kind of babies you're gonna have, so no, like, actually
the casting process is, uh is very long. The casting
process we started, I think I started in April and
then we didn't actually get selected until August. So when
you look at my first episode, yeah, it was like

(46:10):
August eighteenth, was was I still have the bottle of
champagne that you know, doctor Peper and I pop? Yeah,
because I thought it was cool. It's like cool, it's
it's like a cool day, you know. So so it
took a long time. So whenever, and also keep in
mind that I've worked in entertainment before, when I was
in my early twenties, so like when you know when

(46:30):
you're when you're maybe when you're a comedian and I
don't know if you guys do acting over there, you
go to a ton of castings in a day every day,
you know, and you get rejection a ton and it's
not that you there's anything wrong with you, but it's
just like in sales, like a good close rate is
twenty five percent. If you're closing twenty five percent of
your business, then you're actually pretty damn good. That means

(46:51):
you just lost seventy five percent of your business. You
see what I'm saying. Oh yeah, so when for if
you guys watched my My when they told me that
I was going to be on the show, I was like,
I was like.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Huh what I remember that?

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Yeah, yeah, because at that point I was like, all right,
I am I gonna be on the show or now?

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Because I got I gotta live my life.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
Here, you know, yeah, yeah, you know like this, so
this is way too many fucking castings, Like I've done
this before, but not like this, you know.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
So, so did they just give you like like long
is there like a long personality test that you have
to take?

Speaker 4 (47:25):
There's this big questionnaire. It's like one questionnaire that we
filled out. We filled out one questionnaire in person, and
then we filled out another massive questionnaire. Here I spent
I was filling it out here and it took me
like two or three hours to finish. A lot you
just put in there like you just you just describe

(47:46):
your your And that's part of the I mean for
to like I think too. I can't speak for Michelle,
but this is what I think. I think the reason
that she was so probably so upset with with with
her match, which again this is nothing against David I
think David's a great person, but obviously it wasn't the
type of person that she was looking for. Is that

(48:08):
because you put so much time and effort into all
these questions and you cast for so long that when
you get there, everyone's so excited.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
You know, yeah, wow wow.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
So it was probably a huge letdown for.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Her, you know, right, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
And you know almost I mean over half a year.
I just took the.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Approach of like, look, no matter what happens, I'm just.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Gonna have fun.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
And yeah I did.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
And you know, maybe some.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
People agree with it, people some people don't, but that
was my approach.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
I'm sorry, Well you did have fun, right a blast.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
I don't read it at all.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
I mean it is fun. You're making so many memories,
and like, what are the experts like? They seem fun?
Like we like them?

Speaker 4 (48:50):
Well, I mean really I love them, you know, like
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
We don't.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
You don't really spend as much time as you think
with the experts. I mean, you know, you're just doing
that episode and they're gone, you know. But for me,
Doctor Pepper is I mean, they're all cool, but doctor
Pepper's number one. She's the best. Like she's such a
sweet person. I mean, like she is just you can
just tell she's just a good soul man.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
She's like so short too write she's like little, but.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
She's she's she's lots of lots of love and she's
just so such a beautiful human being.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
She's adorable.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Yeah, yeah, I just want to ask about the commitment
ceremony of m M and.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Brandon since we had to watch this episode.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, might as well talk a little bit about this.
But so the so you all went to the commitment
ceremony where you all like going, what is what is happening?
Why are we what is going on here?

Speaker 4 (49:53):
So here's the deal. Like, you know, I don't know
Brandon very well. And here's another thing that we all
need to realize. When you guys are watching this back
and making comments, it's it's important to like I did
a I'm a very like like like mathematical person. Right,
So we were all on this show for eight weeks. Right,
I'm thirty eight. I have been alive for one thousand,

(50:16):
nine hundred and eighty one weeks. So if you take
eight weeks and you divided by nine and eighty one weeks,
it's equal to zero point zero zero four percent if
you round that to the nearest whole number at zero percent. So, like,
what people need to understand is that whenever I say
something about any of these people on the show, even

(50:37):
if it's my match, it's just me strictly talking about
that eight week experience. Yeah, nothing beyond nothing before or after.
That means that I've known this person for zero percent
of my life. I don't really know, like like any
all these people are still strangers to me, you see
what I'm saying, because I don't really know them even
though we've been on this show. So I've known Brandon.

(50:59):
Brandon's complete stranger to me at this point. Like of course,
like I know him through the show, but I don't
really know who Brandon is. But the more that I
find out about Brandon, the more I like when I
watched it, I think Brandon is a big persona. I
think he's a character, you know, Yeah, and I think
he truly is like that. I think that he's just

(51:19):
a he brings a lot of energy to the table
and he's really excited about things. But Brandon, I think
he has a really big heart, you know. And like
one of the I cried whenever, whenever he was talking
about his father, because I had a cousin that took
his life during COVID, you know, he committed suicide and
that hit hard man. And I think, I mean, I think,

(51:42):
as crazy as it may sound, the whole thing that,
you know, how they got together. I think Brandon is
is for real, you know. And he said that, you know,
he's like, I never had a very like strong relationship
with my father, but I want to be a good
father and I want to be a good husban and
you know, I yeah, at first I thought it was

(52:04):
a little bit out of the box, but now I'm like,
you know what, I'm all, I'm all in.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
You know, this guy is the real deal.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Well that's good. That's good. She deserves somebody.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Absolutely. She seems very phenomenal, like a phenomenal woman.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Yeah, I mean, think about it.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Even with my girlfriend. It all happened crazy. We meet.
We meet in the summer right before I shoot Maths.
I shoot Maths, so like, you know, she's like, okay,
well cool, you know, And then afterwards, I'm like, look,
I don't think this thing is going to work out,
and I don't want to pass this up with you
you know, if you're still willing to see me, I'd
love to, like go down to Brazil show you that

(52:41):
I want to that I want to get to know you.
And and there's no there's no like at this point,
there's no attachment, there's no like commitment, like her and
I are just seeing each other as friends. And then
after we got done, I was there for a week
and at the end of the week, I was like,
look like this is undeniable. There's a massive connection. I
would love to explore this further if you if you're

(53:02):
willing to, even if it's at a distance. And we did,
and now look at us, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Think you know, the thing is that we get I
think we we get here. The three of us understand
what it's like because we're actors and we do productions.
You know, we understand what that relationship is. We do
film and theater and all that stuff. So yeah, I
mean we get that you don't really know these people
that well, and that like you have to have a

(53:29):
life outside of it and after it's over. But I think,
you know, it's weird that in America a lot of
people maybe don't realize that so they are thinking that,
but we also have a hard time telling actors apart
from their characters sometimes, you know, like people just really
don't what we see on TV. We tend to like
believe it way more than we probably should.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Right, Yeah, and again, we're not actors. I want to
make sure that people know that we are real people.
We're like, none of this was scripted. Everything was real.
But again, like y'all are like the people that are
watching are making assumptions about us based on like, yeah, look,
I can guarantee that most people that probably like maybe

(54:14):
maybe let's say that dislike me right now as a
as a character of the show, that if we met
at a bar and we had a beer and we
went out dancing one night, I guarantee you we would
all have a great.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Time, absolutely, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
I mean, I think that's the case with most people.
Like I've been alive for thirty eight years, and there's
not many people that I've met with that that I
haven't had.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
A good time with.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Maybe, like they leave and they talk junk about me
beham a back when it's fine. Everybody's entitled to their
to their opinion, but you know, it's that's you know,
like last night, I was a bar. There was a
bunch of people. There was a couple of sad beside us,
and they were nice. You know, those interactions are normal,
and like, I guarantee you that we're not that bad.
I'll guarantee you hanging out. Hanging out with David and
Madison is fun.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
They're fun as hell.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
You know, Alan is fun, you know, like a Kachi's
actually a really cool guy. Like I get that people
have their perceptions, but this was this was an eight
week experiment.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
That's it, you know, And and the editing, uh, you know,
what they choose to show like has a big influence
on that.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
And they're also trying to evoke emotions from the audience,
so it's going to be edited in a way that,
you know, make somebody probably look much worse than they.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
You have to have people to get the villain edit.
And I think it's it's hard for us, even as
you know, entertainer entertainers as producers, to remember that at time,
of course, I mean, because there are definitely times I'm
like I can't stand her. She's the worst, and I'm like,
oh wait, I never met this person. She's probably a

(55:46):
wonderful human being. But I'm getting, you know, an hour
out of her life and it's edited by you know,
trying to make.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
And that goes to that just kind of I mean,
at that point you got to give kinetic props to
make they made. They did it. They made good TV.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
They they bought people into the situation.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
You know.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Yeah, were you watching Married at First Sight? Before? Were
you a fan?

Speaker 4 (56:16):
So I wasn't. I never watched it before. You know,
when I saw that they were casting the show, and
nobody reached out to me, nobody, Like I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Recruited, you know, I reached out to.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
The casting director and I was like, hey man, this
kind of sounds interesting, you know, like wouldn't it be
interesting to meet the love of your life like this?

Speaker 3 (56:35):
You know, And you know, I was like, screw it,
why not?

Speaker 4 (56:38):
You know, like I've just you know, every every every
opportunity that life has presented, I've walked through that door,
you know, as long as it's like ethical and I'm
not hurting anybody, and I've said, okay, well let's give
it a shot. And I thought to myself, well if
it doesn't, because I'm a really I'm a very realistic person.
You know, even when I was casting, I look at

(57:00):
the numbers, like, you know, for example, to be on
Love is Blind, you have a one in twelve hundred
chance of being on the show. So again we go
back to zero present chance. Yeah, so you know, that's
just how I think, you know. So, and I thought,
it's a fifty to fifty chance of me getting someone
I like or someone that I don't bite. But at
the end of the day, I thought, Okay, well, if

(57:20):
I do get someone that's maybe not my preference, I
can't go on there and just be an asshole the
whole time, you know, because first of all, that's not me,
that's not who I am. I can't just be an
asshole to somebody, you know, Like I could meet the
most off the wall person out and I still have
respect for them, you know, and I and I and
I'll listen to them and then I'll walk away and

(57:41):
I'll be like, Okay, I'm never talking to that guy again,
but I'm not going to be disrespectful for other face.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
You know, do you watch other reality TV? You watch
Love is Blind?

Speaker 4 (57:49):
No, I don't watch anything. I don't watch any TV
because I work too much.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Yeah, you don't watch any TV. Okay.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
The only thing I do, like, the only thing I
do outside of my work is is, uh I play
the guitar. You know, Like every night, my girlfriend and
I will sit in the living room and we'll play. She'll,
you know, she'll be on the hammock, I'll be on
the couch and I'll just play the guitar. But for
the most part, I'm working because you know, I'm trying
to get you know, our our millwork into business with Tyler,

(58:18):
and I'm trying to get that thing to really take off.
And uh So, like I'll get up at four and
I'll bid jobs for for my for my cabinetry company,
and then like right around eight in the morning, I'll
work my regular job until like five in the afternoon,
and then I'll work a couple more hours and then
I'll go to the gym. That's how usually my days
are structured.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
That is, that's discipline.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Hey, input equals output, So input a lot of stuff
and you're gonna get a lot of output.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
You know, you got to put that on.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Shirt.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Ever, remember it is it is well, we're we're just
about out of time. Uh So, I just I want
to say, also, I would like your lasagna recipe.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
So so I've been asking a lot of people about
the lasagna recipe and it's in Spanish because my little sister,
well she's one year younger than me, she had that,
she had that lasagna recipe made for all of all
of the siblings on a board, on a wooden board.
But it's in Spanish. So a lot of people have
reached out to me to translate. So I'm gonna translate
it and I'm gonna I'm gonna put it on I'm

(59:27):
gonna put it on my Instagram, so you know, I'll
put it out there so you guys can have it. It's
really I love it.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
You know.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
I'm not Italian, so you know, I'm you know, I'm
sorry for some of the Italians out there that maybe
they saw it and they were like, I don't know,
you know, but but hey man, it's a good one
for me.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
I like it, good, good good. And you were you
all were drinking the Woodford Reserve, weren't you that night?

Speaker 4 (59:56):
That was that was I'm not a big whiskey guy,
to be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
That was that's good stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
Tom has brought it out he brought the Okay, you
drink some good whiskey.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
All right, all right, cool cool. Well, now you because
because we we're pretty much out of time, we don't
want to keep you much longer, because you know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
If you have a few more questions, I'm you know,
I'm more Jamie Skyler anything you're just dying to ask.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Guys, I got every question that I need.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Okay, question me too, Oh my gosh, wow, yea. Even
though you're so awesome, I'm sure we could talk forever.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Great.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
I can totally see why you were cast because you're, like,
you know, you're just a really great guy. Like they
would be crazy to take you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
I appreciate you, guys. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
It's nice to hear that because you do get a
lot of mixed reviews, you know, and like, listen, no
matter how thick skin you have.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Some stuff kind of hurt your feelings.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Actually, you know, what if we can do one last question?
Because Jamie and I live in La now and we're
we're Chicago people. I lived there for fifteen years and
Jamie his whole life, what are your favorite spots? Well
almost your twenty five years or whatever, five years only
twenty six. My god, I'm just kidding. Well, you're from

(01:01:20):
he's from out outside of Chicago anyway, in downstate Illinois.
I consider it the same thing. I feel like Juliet
is still Chicago, Juliet I have, I have family and Julia.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
I love Jolian. I'm from further down Yeah, I know
state Illinois. Yeah, I was surrounded by racism and cows.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Yes you were. That's that's all that exists out there.
I'm from Iowa originally, and Skylar's from Ohio, so we
get the west thing. But what they showed some really
great places in Chicago. What are your favorite spots? Do
you have, like any favorite places you like to go?

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Let's see. So I like to support my friend's businesses.
So like literally whenever I go out to eat, I
just go out to my friend's restaurant. So, like, I
got a friend he owns a place called Asoulo Mariscos.
It's a Mexican joint. I love that place and it's
actually really good. They have really good lobster and banas.
I have another friend, Well that's they're so good. A

(01:02:22):
real lobster to not know, like you know, Mountain, no,
like that stuff. That fake stuff. But there's another place
called Aipa George, which is my other friend, the Colombian spot.
I have another friend that owns a few different restaurants.
One of them is called Yours Truly. It's got a
really nice like happy hour. There's another one he owns

(01:02:44):
called Americano, which is really like American style food. And
if you like Amakazi sushi Amakazi, he has a restaurant
called It's a couple of them and they have locations
in New York. They have a couple of locations here
in Chicago called I don't think so. I don't think so,
but it's called Sushi by Boo and it's really really,
really top notch sushi.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Did you guys go to Yours Truly in the show?

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I set that up for Yeah, they
let us use the location. Yeah, that was during the
last the last episode. Yeah, I mean other than that, like,
uh La is a good spot to go. It's a
Peruvian restaurant in the West Loop Zuko Is. I mean,
it's amazing. Yeah, those are kind of like my favorite spots.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Awesome, great, all right, well hey Jamie, do you want
to give Wand some space to plug his of.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Course, yes, plug whatever you want to plum on right now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Well, well, you know, fight maate.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
It's one of those things that I had. You know,
I thought this up whenever I was traveling for work,
and I just felt like, Wow, what a good what
a good opportunity to have a social network for travelers,
whether you're where, you're looking for a date. You know,
we always, i know, everyone's always had that glance at
someone that was like, oh that person that gate b
is kind of like sexy. So you know, I kind

(01:04:10):
of wanted to facilitate those kinds of connections. Not only that,
but you know, there's so many solo travelers nowadays that
could benefit from the app, or even business travelers. We
go to trade shows all the time and it's like, well,
who else is at the airport that's that's in the
same line of businesses that I'm in. And one of
the most important things to know about that is the

(01:04:31):
end goal everyone that I think in order to be
a good entrepreneur or not whatever, you know, if you're
an entrepreneur at all, you always have to start a
business with your end goal. And for me, the end
goal was obviously financial freedom.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
But the other.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
The most important goal is helping people.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
So I made it. I made a commitment to myself
and to God whenever I started the app that if
it ever took off, I would you know, donate a
lot of the profit to uh TO charity. So if
you if you decide that you would let that you
think it's an interesting idea and you want to support me.
You know, it's on It's on the App Store, it's
on the Google Play Store. You can look it up.

(01:05:07):
Flight Made app. It's free, it's free to download, it
doesn't cost anything, and you know, the community is not
a community without people, So we need people to download
the app. And at the end of the day, if
if if it does grow to where I'm thinking it
could do, you know, you're you're doing it for a
good cost because I'm gonna I have a commitment to
to really you know, get back. That's kind of like

(01:05:29):
my other business is like I work through mostly through
general contractors. So you know, even if I promote it,
there's well, if there's any general contractors out there watching
and they're in Illinois and you need cabinatry, like, let
me know we can hook you up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Yeah, maybe maybe someone will meet their future soulmate at
a you know, gate fee and then they'll go have
a drink at the bar and then it's actually, it
would make a really good store, like a good movie.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
Actually you should write that maybe maybe that's the name
of the the the title of the of the film,
like love it gay b.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
It's a lifetime movie.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Right there, you go, he jump on it while you
still can.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
I got to.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
Write that script.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
All right, anything else you want to plug?

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
No, that's the Thank you, guys. I really appreciate y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
Y'all have been This has been a really fun, fun
interview to be honest with you, because you guys, you know,
it's just nice to be able to talk about something
outside of like all the drama, because that's people. That's
all people want to hear. And this was really really like, oh,
such a relief.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
What you're saying is is where the best podcast out there?

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Yes, yes, thank you. Maybe After Party would have us
on sometime.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
I'll send the link to Entree and and I'm sure
they would, you know, I'm sure they would. Surely. Also,
I'll send the link of the interview to mantree and
I'm sure they'll consider you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Okay, well, thank you, that's very nice of you. One,
I just want did we did we establish where after
party is shot?

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Oh? No, is it Los Angeles or Atlanta, New Yor it's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
In l A.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
It's in l A. Okay, okay, all right, Yeah that's
what I was like. Oh wait a minute, that's the
only question I didn't get answered with. Where they should?

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Do you like l A? One?

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Yeah? I like l A? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
I think LA is a cool, coolest place. I mean,
you know, every every place has its has its issues.
But at the end of the days, it's like it's
like anything you make, you make the experience really, you know,
like it's crazy. There's like two people walk in the
same place and one place, one person it's like, oh
this sucks, and then the others like at the time
of life, it's really what you make it, what you
want it to be.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
You know, it's very true. It's very true. Next time
you come to l A, you should look us all up.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Yeah, I will. I mean, I have Skyler's I've had
have Skylar's contacts. If I'm ever which I think I
am actually going to LA because I have an uncle
and I haven't went. He's here right now in Chicago,
and I haven't been to see him in a while.
So and my girlfriend's ever been in l A. So
next time I go to l A. There's a place
called Dave in Waynes I think it's called It's.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Like, Oh, good times at Davy Wayne's.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
Fucking place is the best. I love that place. Yeah,
I went there when I first moved out. I'll go,
I'll hit you guys up if you promise to take
me there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Yeah, course, isn't it or is it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
I just I was there like in August.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
Yeah, yeah, I went there when I first moved out here.
Because everybody's like they have alcoholic snow cones and I
was like, okay, rape snow and they were like, that's
not what it is. Like I was like, I was
very disappointed. I loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
If it's a new business for one to get into.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
That would be a good thing though, in alcoholics.

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
Yeah, that'd be great.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
On it. Come on, both of you listen.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
So next time you're in LA together, we'll get a recipe.
We'll make it happen.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Yeah, oh my gosh, awesome. Do you guys have any
shows you want to plug real quick comedians, producers.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
I just have a show on April twelfth, the Mirthquake
Mirthquake Comedy Show, and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
I will be on that show, so please come.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
I have a show April seventh as well, and I
believe April thirteenth, So April seventh is a Monday. It's
comedy The Oaks in Sherman Oaks.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Yes, I love the Oaks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Skyler.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
I am producing the April version of Rock Card Tits
Holy Tits on Good Friday.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
Cool On.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
This is your kind of show. You should come.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
It's great, guys, it's great. It's rock music. It's ask
my husband's comedian, he m sees it. It's great. It's
at an old timey saloon in Hollywood. And then I'm
also producing late show musical at some point, and they

(01:10:18):
probably think it's April fourth.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Oh yeah, that's great.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Great. Well. I want to thank Jue Franco for being
on the podcast today, our most excellent guest.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
I appreciate you, guys, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Thank you, Yeah, thank you so much. Bye mm