Season 4 Episode 6-I Just Need Space

Sommer, Schuyler and Jamie talk about Season 18 Episode 5 of Married At First Sight with special guest Julie Golden

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Madden Finally Single.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Jamie Black, and I'm Summer Austin and.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm skylt Aostin out jokes and this.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Is a Married to First Sight fan podcast that we
invite a guest on who's never watched an episode. Hey, everybody,
welcome back. We're here again. We have a very special
guest that I'm so excited about. I'm almost excited about
this guest as I was when we had the actual
creator of Married the First Sight on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yes, yeah, that was an exciting time.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
That was a very exciting show. Yes, yes, But this
so this guest that we have today. She is a
reality producer by day, commuted by night. She is hilarious.
I've seen her perform at the Comedy Store and you know,
just all over town. Please give it up for.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Julie Golden, our Golden girl.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
I just love you guys. Wait, this is the best sweatshirt.
I got it for my birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
How great is this?

Speaker 4 (01:11):
A friend of mine got it for me.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, that's so cute.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
I love you so much. It hurts for those that
are listening without visuals.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Sorry, yes, because that that part may not even be
seen by people.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
You can see.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Wait, but this is visually recording as well, right it is.
I should be mindful as I move through.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
You can don't take us to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
We won't put all of this on anywhere. Just a
few clips, perhaps, just clips.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Hey, I'm ready, I love you.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah. Comedians usually are okay, Julie. So usually I ask people, well,
tell us a little bit about yourself first, Julie.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
So yes, as as Jamie said, the way that I
make my living is as a reality TV producer. Well
that's before the entire town was on fire and ended,
which I don't know how.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Much to that.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
You want to get into this spring depressing, but yeah,
you know you don't get like a pink slip in
reality TV. It's kind because it's it's freelance. You're like, wait,
I haven't worked in a while. I think I was fired,
you know, I don't know. We'll see for me. My
real love, of course, is comedy. So this has just
been one prolonged snow day. So I've just been like, yay,

(02:30):
don't call me agent. I never thought i'd say, except
for how you pay your bills and eat and stuff.
But yeah, in the part, so, yeah, I've been doing
reality for my god, ten fourteen years, I.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Think, Yeah, Julie, that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
So much weird Kismett universe stuff happening that I don't
I don't believe in any of that, but there's so
much weirdness happening. You guys had me do this, and
I'm going to just try and shut up and let
you talk.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
But and how long you've been doing comedy? Comedy about
a year and a half. Oh, you're kidding. I would
have thought you've been doing comedy as long as you've
been producing reality TV. Thank you. I think that's yourutural
You're natural.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
I came out of the womb learning that comedy was
how to survive. So it's a reaction to h trauma.
So yeah, anyone who knows it's kind of like, oh,
they just gave her a microphone, nothing really changed.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Thank you for saying that. Thank you for saying that.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I love your childhood trauma on stage. It's great, big fan.
So Okay, So I thought it was very interesting that
you got this episode because we actually see some producers
in this. And here's the thing I live for. When
the producers I'm like oh, producers on. You know, I'm
like obsessed with the behind the scenes. I go on
Reddit all the time. I can't find out enough information,

(03:59):
and a lot of it I can't find answers too,
So I'm always like, I want a reality TV producer
on so we can ask them these questions. But I
don't know that was more about me than about you.
So I just.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Want to say, I'm I this really speak spellings to
Jamie how much I love you? In summer, I love
you as well, Skyler. I'm sure I'm gonna love you
because this whole experience was so triggering. It was very
hard to watch this because something you might learn about
reality producers. We don't like to watch reality TV. Oh,

(04:33):
I see, because it's just like we're at work, you know,
and we see all the strings and we see all
the you know.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
So it's interesting. I I did it for you. You
can't suspend the day. Thank you so much for doing
it for us.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yes, thank you. You're very grateful.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Are you familiar with married at First sight at least
the concept?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
But you know, it's really funny.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
This is how bad I am with reality TV. I
kept as I started watching it. I can I realized
I confused it with ninety Day Fiance.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I'm like, everybody does that? Where are all the green cord?
You know, that's another show. It is another show.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
A lot of people confuse it.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, very popular as well. Yes, this one's on Lifetime
Television for women. I believe the other one's on TLC. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
I thought this was on TLC at one point, though
it could have.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Been, like it's on different channels and different like it's
on Channel four and like England and I don't know.
So yeah, but I mean I'm envious.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
I'll say that, like anytime any of us sees something
so simple becomes so successful, it's like, why didn't I
think it?

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Right? Yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Raiders.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Oh, I haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
It reminds me I have a reality show to pitch
to you later on.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Oh maybe do that off the podcast if someone doesn't
seal it? Okay, should we get into it, you guys?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
I think we should?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Okay, So Jamie, who are we starting with here?

Speaker 1 (06:03):
We're gonna start with Carla and Pan.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
But that's why I have to Carla. So, Julie, what
do you think about these? Too?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
No?

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I just I just wanted to. I think this is interesting.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I just wanted to give you a little more background
to how weird is that we're talking today because I
was in Mexico where they were honeymooning when you guys
asked me to do this.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
No way.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
I just flew back last night and I was there
for my friend's first wedding. And I'm a single divorce mom,
and I produced a show called The Big d about
matchmaking divorced single people.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
It's just very weird. It's very weird and very weird.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
It's very what is that? What is that? The term? All?

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Right?

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Now I can now.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
I just had to get that off my Wow, that's.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
All this information just keeps getting better and better. I'm
just a Chicago connection.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Do you have a Chicago connection?

Speaker 4 (07:08):
I'm from Chicago.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
No, Yeah, wow, okay, interesting. I don't believe in love,
so we are all very similar.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
So the fact that I that I'm producing a show
where I'm I'm saying, hey, everybody's second chances.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
We didn't learn our lesson the first time.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Off the show I find in Mexico to celebrate honestly,
who knows? Maybe throw the dice, take your shot. My
friend's first wedding. I mean, I hope they make it.
You know, four percent don't, but I hope they do.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
And then Jamie's like, we watched the show and like,
what is happening?

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Okay, wow, and you're secretly Carla in disguise. Yes, I
would literally poop my.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Pants, Skyler, and I love Carla, we are I fucking
love her? Anyway. What do you think about these too, Julie.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
I love them. That is definitely casting bait. As a producer,
you're just like, oh, he's got the you know, sixteen pack,
and so they're both hot visually hot. You hear my
flat a and withsnight actually as a producer watching the show,
because I think what makes me sick to my stomach

(08:29):
is when I feel that I can see the producers
making things happen, you know, And I genuinely believe that
there's chemistry between them, which is nice. And I mean,
they don't have a chance in hell of having a
healthy shirts, but I think they're gonna have incredible sex.
They're gonna have a good time, and I love them
and I love well again. I didn't really understand the

(08:50):
format of the show as I started watching it. So
when she said, so, how do you make your money?
I was like, are you fucking kidding me? You married
him and you don't know that? Okay, I didn't realize
that was it's okay, it's okay, that's.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Okay, that's that's part of the fun.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
You haven't seen it before.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
But I liked that he didn't really answer it, and
she was cool with it, you.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Know, right. I know I wrote that down too, Yeah,
what do you do for work? I work hard?

Speaker 4 (09:17):
He works hard, and he doesn't want to travel with
her and she's like cool, same, So I'm sorry?

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Is that? Is that? What is that the answers that
people give when they're really actors? Because I've also both
Jamie and I have been on reality TV. I can't
remember if you have Skyler been on a subject. But
you know, of course they don't want actors, right, so
they're like, what else do you do? I'm a teacher? Okay,
you know, let's talk about that, right, Yeah, he probably is.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
It is hard when you're casting to find well, let's
just back up and talk about who people are that
agree to be on reality TV?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Who are they?

Speaker 4 (09:55):
I mean, they're they're already working at a little bit
of a new deficit because present company excluded, we are
not mentally well, people.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Like no, I mean I would say present Company included.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you decide to have a
podcast about reality TV, said reality TV program.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
And we bet Summer said yes to immediately when I
proposed it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Wait, so what show were you guys on?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Jamie?

Speaker 2 (10:29):
You want to share what you were on?

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I was on a dating story on the learning channel
that you just.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Posted something about that? Or was that a post from
a while ago?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
It was, well, it may have been a post from
a while ago, but I was on in two thousand.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Interesting, Okay, why and what drew you to be on that?

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well, so a friend of mine was, so, dating story
is where one friend sets up two other friends on
a blind date. And so friend of mine thought that
me and this other woman would make a great couple.
And I was like, oh, hey, listen, there's this show
called the Dating Story. We should go on it. And

(11:09):
so that's what That's how it happened.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
That's different. You're just having fun. The people that like
that pile in for this crazy social experiment, which is
like fucking crazy. Yeah, you have to be crazy.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Like this or Love is Blind or something like that. Yeah,
I mean Love is Blind. It's interesting.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
When I first watched that, I was like, I didn't
feel that, Like I felt physically nauseous watching maryis seriously Like,
I was like, I might have to stop watching it
because if I throw.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Up on the plane, that's gonna be hard.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
But like everybody on there made me one of vomit,
you know, bad for humanity, everybody there across the board.
But somehow I don't feel that way with Love is Blind.
I'm not sure why. I but that's not what your
show's are.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I mean it's because of I don't know the hosts.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
No not Yeah, I don't I think the way they can't. Okay, well,
it's so there's so much to say.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
This could be Oh my god, we may have to
have a bonus episode.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
You're gonna have to wrangle.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
You're gonna because we do really want to hear a
lot of the bat behind the scenes stuff and anything
of that. But we may have to have a bonus
episode for them.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, all right, I'm gonna rate it in. I'm gonna
produce myself watch this. Uh yeah, they got you know,
obviously she's an exhibitionist.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Which I love.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
She wanted to take her clothes off. Called the penis
the magic stick. She probably said that in her casting
tape because as producers, we cue them to say the
things that the network executives got excited about when they're
watching the casting tape. So nothing's really going to probably
be a surprise for the producers on set, you know.
But so I was excellent casting, That's what I would
say about.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yes, excellent. Yeah, I love wasted Carlai. I hope she
was wasted when she said that. But when she was
on about the magic stick, shit, and she did take
her top off. Apparently if you watched the after party,
you found this out, did you? Guys did take her
top off, and they asked her if she regretted, saying
that she was like, absolutely not. Alan agreed with her.

(13:09):
Alan was on after party, He's like, I totally agree.
It's the magic stick, and you're right.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I just want to jump in here. She called it
a magic wand, magic wand and the gene is a temple.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
That's right, it's a temple.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yes, magic one wrong.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
I ondred percent agree with her. I agree with everything.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Car Yeah, honestly, this was like the most normal thing
I think she's ever said. And I was like, I
would sign up for her like sex education class, Like
I would be there in a heartbeat. And I was like,
maybe I'm team Carla.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Now I am too. I would sign up for her
money course too, where she talks about money being energy.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
I'm like, oh my god, so she's going to be
a cult leader. There's going to be a Netflix documentary
about herself.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
She better better.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Also, the you know, the magic wand that is inserted
inside the temple, there's an energy exchange going on, so
you have to you.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Know, Yes, I wrote that down. I was like, like
she I love how it's all about energy. I was like,
she doesn't manifest sex because she manifests everything. But she's like,
I don't believe in sex. It's like an energy exchange.
And but like not wrong, you think about sex differently.

(14:29):
I was like, oh. And then when she was like,
if you ejaculate and you're being negative, you're like putting
your negativity inside of somebody. And I was like, wait
a minute, Yeah, I'm actually kind of behind this idea.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Yes, I had two solid years of negativity put inside me.
I'm still trying to get it out.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
It's been three years. I don't know how long it
takes to get two years of negative.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Energy, Carla, if you're listening, how long that negativity can
be expelled?

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Man?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Oh my god, it's so true though.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Okay, listen, I just want to say one more thing.
I don't Carla may be magic because I don't know
how she did not get wet when the boat capsized.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
She's like, I, well, they asked her an after party,
and she goes, I'm graceful even when I fall lips
in a fan. It's amazing. She is magic. She's a
magical being.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's where.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Okay, I'm gonna be the bummer now. Like to me,
I was watching it as the producer, and I was like,
oh did they throw Okay, so one of them were
the camera because they probably told him to. And then
they fucked up for continuity and then they forgot to
get Carla Wett's and they covered their asses and they
came in.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
They're like, Carla, sorry, I'm going on. No, that's see,
this is why we need to exactly.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
No. No, we seek the truth.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah we do. We can't figure it out. But oh okay,
So one thing I've never been able to figure out
is when they film the after party episodes. I don't
know if you can ever answer that question because Reddit
won't tell me, and it's like a thing that happens
after but it's like clearly not. We can't figure out
if it's like a few weeks after the episode is filmed,
or if it's like after the season is already filmed

(16:28):
and like everything is over. But anyway, Carla, when she
said so on after Party guys, I think she was
foreshadowing because she tells it like it is and she
just goes she was singing in between Alan and David
and she goes, yeah, so I'm gonna say it again.
The seed has been planted. She goes, so if you
stick it or where it doesn't belong, and like she

(16:50):
said it right there, and she was like looking at
I feel like she was looking at David. But because
I think there's some might be some things happening this season,
she was she was throwing.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
It out there is she hooking up with David.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I don't think she's cooking up with David. I think
one of the guys might have hooked up with one
of the other girls and she's like saying it essentially
in code on after Party.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Well, you know who I think it is because I
said it before David and Madison.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
She looked at David. She was like kind of looking
at both of them that her head was mostly turned
towards David. Well, that would be nice.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Those are like the two relatively normal people. Yeah, right,
I mean yeah, but I will say I don't know.
I mean, I could find out for you about when
that after Party is filmed, because I have friends are,
but I guarantee you it's not filmed right after because
they are so composed and basically when we do questions.

(17:47):
So if I go out too the field and I'm
filming all this verite, you know, they've got the GoPros,
they have to review all that, they have to cut
the episode together, they have to figure out what that
episode's even going to be before they can then follow
up questions. So I don't know how soon after they
wrapped the whole season, But if I were producing it,
I would wait to have the entire show in the
can because you're telling another arc story through all of

(18:10):
that stuff, you know, And they also just look way
too composed.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Like yeah, and they look different. Some of them look
like really like more pop, you know, they look like
they have a glow up, but like okay, but then
they have to really be in real time. So is
that a producer and they're ear going remember to say
talk about right now? What it is right now is
if the episode is still right now? Okay, yeah, and
you'll notice in any interview.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
So just logistics alone, right, so they're probably well, it's
probably say slave labor, it's probably horrible. It's probably people
working seven days a week. Don't even get me started
about the reality TV world and working conditions. But anyway,
let's say they're filming five days and then the sixth
day they do interviews. That means they're doing all the
interviews reflecting back on everything they saw, and so in

(18:55):
that moment they have to say, now, say I'm getting
out of the boat and I feel wet.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
So there's no time for them to do.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
After party until they've got finished the entire season, or
maybe they shot like three or four episodes, three episodes
they stopped down. But there's I'll tell you why that's
not happening. Sorry, I'm just thinking about this outline. The
whole point is to get people as raw as possible
so that they fuck up and act a fool on TV.
You do want them showered and presentable and thinking. So

(19:24):
there's no way there. I mean, the creator could correct me,
but I would imagine they have to finish the entire
season before they do a bunch of after parties.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Interesting, Okay, let's we have we have to move on
otherwise there's going to be an hour half episode. So
so there's nothing crucial that you need to say about
Carla and one. Let's move on to Camille and Thomas.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Remind me what they look like.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Thomas is like this, you know, he talks like this.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
You know that's Thomas, very needy, very needy, had dad issues,
dead dad. Something bad happened and she and wanted to
kiss her on the beach. Yes, oh god, it's so cringe.
It's so hard watching that she does not want to
sleep with him. It is just painful.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
You don't think so.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
I mean when she kisses him, it's like, okay, you know,
like a little pat in them where she's like, I mean,
I wouldn't mind it if he slapped me on the ass,
like I can tell. A producer had her say that,
you know, she wouldn't mind it.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
On after party, he was there too, and they showed
him that clip and they go like, how do you
feel about this? And he goes, that was a surprise. Yeah,
he was that surprising. I would not have said that
he was not welcome, because it's not.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
So I was taken aback when he said that. In
his early thirties, he found out from a social media
post that he was a poor guy.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
What the fuck is up with his adoptive mom being
like happy National Adoption Day, Glad we adopted you. I
was like, could you even imagine? I would be like,
what the fuck? I would have so many questions.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
So there are questions. He cleared some of it up
on after a party, but I was still confused. So
I don't like, Yeah, it sounded like that's not how
his His adopted mother did not make that post. It
sounded like his dad's wife at the time made the
post or whatever, and he wasn't like with he I.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Don't know, but it still didn't make sense to me
about the adoption because it was his dad's ex wife
that posted it. And so I still don't understand about
the adoption thing.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I'm so confused. What It boils down to is this
kid's been through some trauma, that's for sure. I mean, like,
oh my gosh, poor guy. Poor guy, but not a
good sex stage setter. You know. Maybe let me tell
you about the time I found out was adopted through Facebook.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Yeah, and you're like, oh god, you're taking me down
with you.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
No, there's so many bad things, so it doesn't wait
what did you What did you say, Skyler?

Speaker 3 (22:15):
I said that gets me wet.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Finding out bad news on Facebook makes Skyler.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Wise like more daddy.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
A lot of people get bad news on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
I mean, yeah, when people die. Yeah, I like to
know those things. But I would not like to read
like if my mom, if she were still alive, if
she posted now, I think I would actually be really
freaked out. But if she posted something like like oh
my my child's father is a jazz musician, I would

(22:51):
have been going, what what? Because this is what she
told me. She didn't tell me on social media. She
sat me down to tell me that my real father
was jazz music. But had she posted it on social
media when there was social media, because there wasn't social media,
which she told me, then I would have been like,
I'm sorry, excuse me, what are you saying? Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Well, remember it probably was an older person. And because
it's Facebook, and like, I don't know any family that
hasn't found out some bad news on Facebook.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
For me, God, I haven't. Now I'm just waiting.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
It's like, oh you will. If you haven't, you will
like and you're like, because I you know, most people
are like, why did you post that on Facebook? But
I think sometimes people don't either they don't know how
Facebook works, or like back when it first started, people
got a little bit too, you know, before there was Instagram, right,
we were all about like my Space and Facebook, and

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people would kind of abuse that. It'd be like there
was I remember putting so much personal information about myself
and those like status updates many times a day. I
love when people used to they don't do this anymore
of it. I love it.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
It's like that moment when that friend of yours, you know,
you know who you are, why are you doing on Facebook?

Speaker 2 (24:03):
But I do have a.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Relative that kind of trolls me with passive aggressive comments,
so I guess that that happens.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
It happens as well, and then like Facebook like comment
wars about politics and ship. Yeah, it's a horrible place
to be.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah. Yeah, I got in a fight with somebody from
high school. She Yeah, that's a story for a different
It was great. She's an idiot and I loved it
because I read her to filth and I was like, anyway,
enjoy watching the debate by oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, oh god.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
It just felt like he was trauma dumping on her
a little bit, and that's just not hot.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
It's not hot.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
And I could see her squirming kind of like run it,
you know. But but maybe that's the deal. Is this
is this trauma porn? Is that why people watch this too?
Probably vulnerability equals annihilation, So if you come up with
the kind of attachment.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
You see, I thought these two were being very respectful
to each other, and I thought thought they were genuine.
But now, Julie, just sorry, I'll ruin all your It's
ruined for me because I can't. I shouldn't be living
in my fantasy. Were all that's not good. It's reality TV.
I want to know the reality behind the TV. I would,

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although I don't know if I would want to work
seven days a week.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
I've been saying, because every episode these two are so boring,
that I'm like, I feel like that producers have nothing
for them, so they're actually going to work out. But
maybe I'm wrong. Oh yeah, because like when they were
on the boat, I like totally tuned out their conversation
because they cut aside to them and they're talking, but
I couldn't tell you what they were talking about because

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I was too busy listening to all the conversations in
the back background. And I definitely heard one say like
three times and I was like, Oh, somebody didn't bleep
that out.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Well, Skyler.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
To your point, I did a little research on this
show because I was like eighteen seasons anyway, but this
was my favorite Reddit comment. After seasons twelve or fourteen,
I'm starting to think the producers choose the biggest red
flag couples and run with them.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yes, yes, I used.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
To love the show, but it feels like they're playing
with people's lives.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
It's making me not want to watch anymore.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Okay, anyway, yes.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
I love it. And the answer is yes, yes, you know.
It's actually it's interesting because I had therapy right before
this and my therapist was like, oh, what's the podcast about.
I was like, it's the show married at first Sight
and he goes, oh, yes, I'm very familiar, and he
was like, the first few seasons were fun because I
feel like that they were actually trying to pair peace

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up for love, and then after that they're like, oh wait,
let's make it as chaotic as possible. He's like, so
you should watch season one, very different vibes. I was like, okay, no,
you know what.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
You should watch is Married at First Sight UK. I'm
going to send all of you a clip that someone
sent to me. Is great. Why is it so much better?

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Love Island is better in the UK, everything's better, the
better and the Australian they're all better. They have different
formats over there too. They don't they like get together
every in Australia at least, and I think UK they
have a decision day every week, right and they have
a dinner party. Everyone gets together every week, which is
a shit show. It's great. They don't do that in America.
I was kind of hoping they would.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
But yeah, well because I also feel like too like
UK and stuff like that, like they're all like, we
know that these people aren't going to work. They're just
here to like have sex and have a good time,
whereas America, I feel like that they're always like guys,
it's all about love, like especially with like the Bachelor franchise.
They're like, I agree, it's real love, but UK is
like I just want a good shag, babes.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
You're right, the UK is more real, That's what it is.
It's totally inauthentic bullshit here, which makes me nauseous. But anyway, sorry,
your whole shows based on I.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Love it make you nauseous, and our show can be
based on it as those things can coexist.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
They can they can't.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
You answered a question that's been driving me nuts.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Why is it?

Speaker 2 (28:25):
I can? Why I love it?

Speaker 4 (28:26):
It's interesting.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, I'm going to get.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
A VPN just so I can watch Mary First Sight
UK pulled the Australian and UK seasons off of Lifetime.
Man look forward, they're gone anyway, moving on?

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yes, Okay, are we done with Camille and Thomas? Not
a whole lot to say? Okay, m M, and you like.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Them, they're great. That's a couple that I am enjoying watching.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
I mean, there, those are good people and they actually
like each other. That's good. That must be. Yeah, that's
like a here couple you know, they found.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
A good one there. I am I'm growing on me.
I was not team mckachey in the first place, but
I am sorry to like him now. So that's all
I have to say.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
They have a very natural conversation and and and and
I like you know that they they address things in
the moment, like she could have she could have taken
it when he called her homie. She could have just
gone he called me a home and just internalized that
and then bitched about it on the you know when
they do the confessional thing. But she was like, you

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call me homie. You know. She's like yeah, you know,
And they had a whole conversation cleared it up. I
loved it.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah, it was adorable. I agree she has money, just
like how she is a weird thing to say, I
put words together. There are very few people I enjoy
listening to talk and put words together, and I enjoy
her words. You know, she's nice, she's watchable.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
So I have to ask, because you know, since we
do have a reality TV producer here, did he fuck up?
When she's like, I set up this breakfast for you
and he's like, when did you do that?

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I haven't Oh yeah, those are the definite he wrote
it down.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
I was like, she did not set that up, and
he fucked that one up and she had to cover
really quick because she was like, oh, I'm just really quick.
You just you just didn't see me.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
So well or sorry going what I miss.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
So when they first introduced them, she's like, oh, I
set up breakfast for us, and he's like when he's like,
when did you do that? You? Oh? Yes, And I
was like, cause she didn't.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
What Skyler to find all the mistakes. I love it, Yes, Julie,
first of all, Yes, Skyler.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
And what's really strange to me is they just should
have not had that in the scene. You wouldn't have
thought about it as much. Like it's so weird that
they had, like obviously the producer so say this, and
then they put it in. It's like, no, you idiots,
Like sorry, I probably know the people that shot it,
but you know, and sorry guys, but like just just
let it. Let it happen. They're having breakfast now. Like,
but the fact that they called it out, you're like, yeah, wait,

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wait a.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Minute, we didn't know.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Probably you know, I don't know. It's almost like this
is staged. It was a very strange tell that they
did not need to tell.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yes, because like the whole Carla falling in the water
thing like that one, I was like, that blows my
mind that they messed up. But this one, I was like,
I'm just casually watching this and I'm catching this mistake happening.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
So yeah, and that stuff also makes me, if your
guys are interested, what made I think? What makes me
so anxious watching these shows? I'm getting anxious right now
thinking about it. We have to script and come up
with all these scent pieces like nothing, you know, because
you have to get permits, you have to like it's
all set up and so okay, we're gonna have them
to do a canoe river. We're gonna have It's like,
oh my god, they already did a canoe, right, We're

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gonna have and do a paddleboard. So as I'm watching this,
I'm just watching all these poor challenge not challenge producers,
but segment producers who are having to come up with
and pitch all these ideas and make it look like
it was their idea. So that's just a personal trauma
thing that I just felt like, God, okay, they're getting.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
On another boat. Oh my god, there's going to talk
on a boat. This is so boring. Do they really
have to get permit? They have to get permits even
to be on a boat, and even to be in
the resort.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Well, I've not worked one something where they're all in
the resort like that, So I imagine everything was released there.
But they have to schedule. There's a call sheet every day,
like everything is scheduled, you know what I mean. So
it's that's why everything feels so constipated when you watch it.
It's like and action, Like they're saying action and cut,

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you know what I mean, and inserts and now.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
We're going to go.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
You know, it's like, do we get enough of her
knees so we can shoot the you know, every time
you just see a knee or a hand, that's a
good camera person, because they fuck us if they don't
get that, because then the editors scream at us and
they're like, I have nothing to cut to. I can't
put this audio anywhere.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Sorry, interesting, got it? So again, we're gonna have to
have a bonus episode. Oh my god, this is this
is gold this.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Is that's my name is Julie Golden. But I mean,
this is way more interesting than talking about the cobbles.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
I know, but you know, we'll do a bonus We'll
do a bonus episode if Julie will agree, We'll do
a bonus episode. If we can get our schedules. I say,
we do a bonus episode.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
I get a bunch of my friends, all of our
page subscribers.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, okay, do we have anything else about any k
I just the only thing.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
I said is I like that he went in with
no expectations. That he says that too, we do approach
a relationship, doesn't won to her. That's my only I
think you're about that you already friend zone her. He
called her a homie.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, she'd be fair. I called my husband and my
best friend. So I was like, I'm kind of like,
I get where he's going with that.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Okay, how long.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Have you been with your husband since twenty eighteen?

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, so it's homie now, but twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I mean they've only known each other for four days.
It's already friends owning her so yeah now okay.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Okay, yeah, but he I you still you want to
be I think what he's saying saying is that I
feel so comfortable with you, like we have been together
for a while. You're my homie, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
I just wish he had also said, and I want
to put my magic wond in you.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
That's what you want to hear from somebody. You're married, even, and.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
I would like to put my wand into your temple?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yes, now, yes, your homie?

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yes, okay, all right, am the many Kate? We done? Yeah, okay, great,
all right? David. And Michelle, oh boy.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
I mean she's horrible, the blonde one.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah, she's one of the blonde ones.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Well yeah, I don't like the C word, but she is.
She's a little she's a bit cunty.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
What happens when you get somebody like that, Julie, Because
every once in a while there is remember the one
from New Orleans, that one that had that meltdown, Jamie.
She was such she was so terrible, Oh my god.
And she was like dressing down the producers and like
screaming at them, and they like put that in yeah,
like she her mic was live and like they just
put in footage of her screaming at the producers. But

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you know, Michelle, I mean, yes, I'm so glad Michelle
is having a meltdown because it's good TV. But what
like do they just surprise you know, because they have
to cast these people from They're involved in months and
months of screaming, psychological surveys, all kinds of stuff for this,
right they do if you read if you read Reddit,

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you can you don't think so, Julie.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
No, No, I think it's they do as little as
they have to do to be liable, got it? Okay,
all right, fair enough, but just looking for the crazy
loudest people.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
She seemed like she had a good head on her shoulders,
and then she flipped, what is happening there?

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Well, I have a question for you because I didn't
watch the first episode, right, I was only supposed to watch.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yes, correct, Hell, we wanted you to watch four episodes.
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
No, it's great, it's good therapy for me. I did
she come up normal in the first episode or was
she like that out the gate?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
She was normal? I would say she was normal enough,
like a normal gen whatever she is? What is she
a gen x er?

Speaker 1 (36:43):
I don't know. No, no, no, She's a.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Millennial, normal millennial kind of person. And then at her
wedding she just wasn't happy, and she started having having
a meltdown and after he told her he lived in
his mom's basement, and then she just she does it's
like something.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Yeah, I mean, I at least was not bored watching her.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
So so in her defense, if I was stuck with
the man who was like, I live in my mom's basement,
I believe at any time, but I just choose not to.
And by the way, I also was in this twelve
year relationship and I have her name tattooed on my chest,
and it might be a cute date if we go
and get it removed together. I would also be pretty

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pissed off. I would Yeah, I would be like, what
the fuck, Tyler?

Speaker 4 (37:39):
You should work in reality. By the way, your instincts
are excellent. Everything you said. Now that we're backing up,
I can see the producers just giddy with joy.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
They have all of this in the chamber.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
They know all this shit's there, right, So I guarantee
you to like go to close reverse shot Michelle like
they are waiting for her to receive the news and
telling him to say it. So, yeah, that's some good ship.
I didn't know about living in the basement. They kept
talking about this living arrangement.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I didn't know what that was.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Oh yeah, no, that was that was evil and good.
It was well cast.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
That was.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
There. She's ready to go.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
She the one that was on the boat with her?
Are they so they break the fourth wall all the time?
Is that the deal of the producers?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Not all the time? Not all the time?

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Oh yeah? Also, can I just talk about him for
a second. I kept wanting to like him, but then
he just kept like talking using words and.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Stuff and not well and probably in the right order
or like the right word for the right sentence. I know.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
I wish I had been in the editing day when
this moment happened, because I'm sure they were cackling with glee.
When he's like, well, I need my time too, and
then he storms away and then he walks just to explain,
like I'm getting my time too. You understand that. It's like, yes,

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literally just told me that.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
That was her response to it too, because she's like, okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
I guarantee whoever's editing that couple is enjoying themselves.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Do the producers get in the editing bay Often.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Usually there's field producers and then there's post producers. Because
it's happening. At the same time, it's too expensive to
keep somebody on and they just want to get us
for as little money as possible. So in the UK,
which is really interesting. So the UK you you, you shoot,
and you are beginning to end. It's very small. Sorry,
Jamie m constation. So to answer your question, because I

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came up through the post side, the field producers, if
they're doing a good job, they're producing, they're manipulating, they're
shaping stories, they're doing field notes, and then that all
gets handed to the post team with what they think
is the story. And then usually the post team goes
whatever and they just do their own thing, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
But yeah, that's kind of how that goes.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Conation. Okay, anything else about David and Michelle?

Speaker 3 (40:28):
So many things. I mean, I think that we can
definitely say that Carla probably did tell us the truth
because like when he's like, oh, as soon as I
saw what's her name the other block, He's like, as
soon as I saw her, I said, yeah, that's gonna
be my gym buddy. And I was like, oh, we

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all know what that means.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, well, he's being treated so badly by Michelle. I
wouldn't be surprised, right, I mean, Madison and David probably
should have been matched up.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
They're a good match. Say this a bit, David? Is
that name?

Speaker 2 (41:05):
David?

Speaker 4 (41:06):
I kept writting down every time you said my wife
and marriage, like he totally thinks it's real. And it
was a little terrifying. So Sara Michelle, I'm sure she
was like, what the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (41:18):
She did say you're in a fantasy world. That must
be what that's all about.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
I wasn't sure what she meant by that, but now
that you bring that up, now I get it.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Yeah, he's like, I'm here to fight for my family, Like,
you don't know her, you don't know what this is
all fake?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
My what moa? I will say this too. I really
liked how retriggered she was getting by everyone in her
family and the producers and all the other girls there
were telling her to try and she did not like
that advice at all. Well, question about the format of
the show.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Do people ever leave before decision day?

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (41:55):
Oh okay, I mean obviously, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, yeah it has happened.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
They some some have left at the honeymoon like that one.
I can't remember her name the moment.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, I can't think of her name either, because I
had was she was bad?

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Yeah, well, I'm sure the producers are put under a
lot of pressure to keep people there because that's their show.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
So yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
I mean that's what Gwen was trying to do. I
wrote it down somewhere. He's like. I was like, pull
in Gwen, get her to stay, get this chick to stay.
But I will say in David's defense because I have
not been team David. But the one thing that I
was like, oh, I kind of like understand where he's
coming from. When she was like, you keep interrupting me,
I was like, I don't think he is. I think

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that he just has to like verbalize stuff for it
to stick up here because he's not the brightest ball.
But we all know. So I was like, I think
that that's just his like communication style, and she was
shooting it down. I was like, that's rude.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
I love how bad he is at everything.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
It's amazing actually fun to watch. I'm going to the pool.
Do you want to come?

Speaker 4 (43:04):
No?

Speaker 2 (43:04):
All right, Well so I'll be at the pool if.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
You Yeah, yeah, I give you your space.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Five minutes later, Hey, did you have your space just
so that you know, I also needed to take my mom.
That was me having a meltdown. I'm going to have
a meltdown. Which was not a meltdown. He just said
the word. He said one bad word. He's like, oh,
I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed of how badly I reacted. You
said one bad word, dude and walked away.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
You live in your mom's basement, be ashamed of that.
She's like, you called me five times within five minutes.
I was like, oh no.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, and he needs to cut the side ponytail. I'm
not sure what's going on.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, I knew I was getting old when when the
dude has too his long hair is too much, it's
too much. Yeah, I'm like, I'm old. It's official.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
I'm gonna shave my head next week. But yeah, no,
I feel like I smell him every time he's talking.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
I'm like, oh, I love that he has this ex
ex ex tattooed on his chest. I mean that was
pure casting genius straight.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
There, right, yes, And then they cut to her, you
should never have anybody's name tattooed on the if it is,
I was like, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
I wanted to tattooed on his arm. I want him
to do it, like surprise her with it.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Oh, I think that'd be I did not think that
would be a good date at all.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
I know that's all. That's kind of a weird proposal
for a date. I think even.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
She's like, that's something that you can just like do
on your own lighte.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
This poor girl is just being retraumatized like every time. Yeah,
like disorder check, let's cut cast.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Her producer Gwen was like, you should totally go in
there and tell her right now, all that you have
her name tattoo on your chest. It'll be really funny.
But then tell her it'll be a cute date. Go
do that.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
Oh and I guarantee you in the call she or
not the call shape. But it was like, all right,
and this is where this is gonna be, the the
reveal of the name tattoo and yeah, do you think.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
They say But they don't say that too, do they
put that on the call sheet because they don't want
Michelle to now right, And the talent never sees there's
talent time. They just get like.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Yeah, and then there's don't be naked in your hotel
room because we will be in there.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yeah, okay, anything more about David and Michelle.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Oh, I could talk for days about that.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
I mean, there's so much about them, but again, we
we like to keep this to an hour.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
I just wrote curly haired guy painful. That was right
at the beginning.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
It was right at the beginning.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Okay, let's move along.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
And I think he's gonna fuck Madison. That's my I
think there's gonna be I think that's I think so too.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
I think him and Michelle will work out and they're
going to be happily married for the rest of their lives.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
I don't know what fantasy you're all right, I'm.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Sorry, Sorry, I was living in David.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Okay, Yes, this is the happiest.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
I've ever been.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
Anyway, Oh, I've just met somebody, and you're mantras. I
just have to push myself.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
No time to go.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
All right, let's move let's move on from David and Michelle.
Let's go to Madison and Allen.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
You are the worst storyteller, Allen. So that's the nail
in the conference. When you say somebody is the worst
story teller, it's it's game over for Alan the paddle boat.
I don't want to call you a pushover, because that
would be harsh. I'm like, oh my god, this is
such good writing. I know it's worse, but I mean,

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obviously they're not going to ever be together and ever ever.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Never.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
It's too bad because I kind of like Alan, you
know what I mean, Like, I think Alan's got He's
got personality.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
I like his outfits. But maybe that's just a me problem.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
You don't think he has personality, Julie, I don't know.
I to me again.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
I know the editor was having fun. It was a
little heavy handed, but when he was telling the story
about the green glasses and they just did the time
laps at, it's like that's Alan. Like no, Alan, the
glasses did not deserve a ten minute tail.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
And they're not even his.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Because actually, when I saw the green glasses, I'm like, oh, Alan, okay,
you know, I was like kind of leaning in a
little bit for him, and it's like, Oh, it's this
guy who's really cool, and obviously I was like fan
boing all over them. So the guy finally was just
like take the fucking glasses. Like That's how I think
that story went down. It wasn't like you're Alan.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
And you just told it in ten seconds.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Oh see. I think that he met them at a
bar and they were kind of like, hey, we noticed
you across the bar and he went back, had a
three way with these people and was like these glasses
are cool and took them.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Skyler, you were so generous.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
I don't know if he's got that much spice in him.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
But well, I mean, he didn't do it. They were like,
this is what you're gonna do because he's a pushover.
I know that's harsh, but he's a or whatever she said.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
And then yeah, I just think she's so mean to
him though, Like I mean, come on, let's you know
this guy four days? Like how many different ways can
you insult this poor man?

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Like it?

Speaker 4 (48:36):
Well?

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Was it? Was it this episode of the last One
where he's like, would you walk down the street with me?
And she goes no, this one. Yeah, things like that.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
That was a weirdly edited scene. I just want to
be clear. That was probably two hours. Sorry constipation. So
I'm just saying because she said in reaction to that,
well no, if I'm wearing a nice dress, I'm like,
that doesn't fully So there was more there, that's honest.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah, sure, yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Of course it was a two hour conversation because Alan
was involved. So he loves to wear vegetables and fruits
on his person, like she was like an after party.
She was like it was like she's like, he's like
wearing a farmer's market like every time. He's just kind
of a sad seck. To me though, like I feel

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like there's a deficit of he's definitely sad. Is that
I do things well. His mom is crazy, Okay, his
mom Like when when when Madison went to brunch with
his mom who's like a single mom, and like he
doesn't live with her, but like he basically should. He's

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not like that. He's like so close to her, probably
even closer than David is to his parents, even though
they don't he doesn't actually live in her basement. The
mom had a complete blubber fest smeltdown about losing her
baby boy.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Well, now I have to speak up a little bit.
I have a fifteen year old son, and I'm a
single mom, and I've never known love like this. Like
to me, the movie Psycho is a love story. I
think that people need to take another look at it. Sorry,
I just try to get a joke in there.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
I love her.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
That's the most interesting thing you've told me about Alan.
His mother. Yeah, his mother. Maybe she's not crazy, but
they are very codependent.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Okay, well just oh absolutely, yeah, like yeah, but down.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
He is beat down.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Yeah, that's a little Norman Betsy he is.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
He could be his mother. You're right, they are very similar.
But yeah, I get, I get what you're saying. I
respect the relationship between the single mother and the and
the son. But yeah, it's like, uh yeah, so anyway,
that's what she's sort of walking into, is like this
really intense relationship between So there's a lot of it's
a lot of stuff she's dealing with. And he said

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he's kind of sad. He excus sort of depressed ussive, right,
like kind of like Thomas, they have a lot of trauma.
There's some sadness at the core there. You know. Did
they cast sad men like that all the time. Well,
I feel like they're usually always a better women than
they have men. Maybe that just says something about women,

(51:18):
and I mean we all, yeah, the women are always
better than the men, and sometimes the men are even
like borderline sketchy, like mark the shark, mark the.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Shark mark, This shark.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
I thought that he that was this name. His nickname
was about his reputation. I thought it was because he
had shark eyes because he like couldn't really like focus
when he likes looked at her. Uh, but he had
like bed bugs and oh it was oh totally crazy.
But she was crazy too. He was crazy, but it
was it was good TV anyway. I just I'm going

(51:56):
to reveal a little bit of shalloness on my part.
But Madison is the room. Yeah, she's very fit, and
Alan has a pooch.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
I'm just saying, oh, yeah, yeah, no, I that was he.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Just doesn't go to the gym.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
I don't know, he's got a little bit of a pooch.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
But you know who does go to the gym every
day at four am?

Speaker 2 (52:21):
A different lady every time he goes. She is very fit.
In fact, I wanted to know where she was getting
her workouts done because and you know, they're in Chicago,
and she was like climbing some weird I was like,
where is she she had orange theory, No, can't be,
so she must go to one of like the.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Most Oh when she was climbing the wall, you know
where I bet she was there's a there's a gym
at Sheffield and uh oh what's that street? Oh ship thinking, no, no, no,
it doesn't matter. It doesn't met for the purposes of this.

(53:01):
But I bill bet you that's where she is. It
is all there in Lincoln Park. It's in Lincoln Park.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
This episode brought to you by the gym at Lincoln
Park in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
It's totally clear.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
I am not anti Pooch. I just don't think Pooch
is gonna end up with about twenty four to seven lady.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
They should have put the people who I mean because
she I mean, Okay, Well, this is the other thing
too that I wonder because they definitely have like deal
breakers when they interview them, right, So it's kind of like,
why did they do that? Why did they put her
with someone so not into physical fitness so that.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
They can fail?

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yeah, makes a good TV.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
There's that, and then there's just you have a green
light and you're staring down the barrel of production and
it's like, all right, well is this good enough? Is
Carlo and wwant like, do you guys feel that there
are good enough couples in this season compared to the
other seasons, Like where would you rate this season, Oh yeah,
just as good as any other season, for sure. They

(54:04):
know their critical point of like good enough, you know,
so yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
And I feel like it's always that way. There's always
usually like one or two that are like really good, right,
like Carlo and Jant, and then the other ones are
kind of like and then there's always like one where
you're they're kind of like they're kind of flagging behind
a little bit where it's like they're not progressing and
it's a bad match.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
Yeah, or they just want to end up with someone else,
like you're saying with them.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
That does sometimes happen, where like you know, if they
end their relationship early, they not with anyone, usually on
this season, but sometimes they date others. And actually one
of the matchmaking experts ran off with one of the
former contestants. One of the previous matchmakers now with the
previous contestant, she was the next expert.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Nice yep.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
I think that story that's a good story.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Next season or season twenty should be Marryott first sight
all Stars and they just bring them all in.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
I read though there is it's called Honeymoon Island. As
I was doing my digging, they take the respect or
the All Stars. They throw them on an island to
see if they can, you know, reuse, recycle.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
They do. And I have not started watching Honeymoon Island, but.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Oh I did not know that that's what that was.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
They're welcome, I have earned.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Oh I have to watch that.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
I wonder if Mark this Shark ever made it on?

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Oh, I love it.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Maybe it's finally the American solution to like how good
the shows in UK and Australia are?

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Yeah, do you guys want to hear the marriage stance
of everybody that's ever been on? How many people stay together?

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (55:49):
Sure, it's Wikipedia, So okay, the seventeen completed seasons whatever,
So sixty nine couples have been matched. Thirty eight of
them fifty five percent mutually chose to stay married on
just vision day, out of which over two thirds have
since divorced, filed for divorce, or announcer divorced. As of
August twenty twenty four, this left only eleven couples married,

(56:09):
making for a current overall success rate of fifteen point
nine percent.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
That's pretty bad, honestly, though higher than I thought it
would be. I was like, there's probably two couples throughout
all of those that are still together, So you know,
eleven not too bad.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
The fact that I've never he together, I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
I'm like, wow, one.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Of them that baby, isn't there? Really cute? And then
they get their own spin off shows, So if you
want to there's a whole universe to this. So like Doug,
I just read.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
And Doug, they look really happy. He's a former Bachelor contestant. Yeah,
I'm just going to start a projectile l emitting on
this podcast.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Oh no, I have I have said because I saw
Jamie on another show before I saw her on Married
at First Sight and I was like, oh, that's interesting.
You were just on she was one of the she
was on the Bachelor.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
I just asked Julie about a KCHI real quick. Maybe
she would know because it was had applied for the
Houston Married at First Sight, didn't get picked. And now
he's in Chicago. What's going on there? Do you think
they truly moved and just happened to and they remember
and they were like, oh, yeah, he was good, let's
get him back.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
There's a database for sure of all the contestants. So absolutely,
you don't think he moved to Chicago.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
I mean, you don't know the man, but you don't
think he like moved to Chicago just to try to
be married. That would be too hard.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
Right, I mean, I don't know. Anything is possible. They probably,
I don't know, Yeah, maybe coincidence. I mean, they're not
going to go out of pocket for the man.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
But okay, so is anything we're gonna say about Madison
and Allen.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Amy's never having me on again?

Speaker 1 (57:48):
No, it's fine, No, No, I just don't. It's it's
it's it's selfish because the longer it is, the harder
it is to edit. And I hate editing. I hate
it with a passion. So I just it's it's totally me.
You are fine. I'm loving all of this. I just
I'm not gonna I can't edit that this long. That's all.

(58:09):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
I love you.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
I love you, Julie Golden.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Love you, and I hate editing as well.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
I get it, she understands. Okay, So now comes the
part of the show where we get our guest predictions
about our couples. So I'm just gonna explain to you
quickly about how it works. So these couples all met
for the very first time. On their wedding day at
the altar, they get married. They have eight weeks to

(58:37):
decide whether or not they want to stay married or
get a divorce. So after the eight weeks, they go
in front of the experts that match them and they
tell them either yes, I want to stay together or no,
I want to get a divorce, And if one says
yes and the other says no, they get a divorce.
So with that being said, let's start with Carlin Wan,
do you think they will say yes or no on
decision day?

Speaker 4 (58:57):
I just have one other question. Is there a cash fry?

Speaker 1 (59:02):
No, not for me. No, that they've not, that they've revealed.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
Well, just because obviously Love Love Island. You know cash
pred you're motivated to it corrupts the decision, okay.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
De motivation and the fact that they have to actually
get a real divorce afterwards is a consequence. No, because
these are all fame horrors.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
Everybody on this show wants the attention that they did
not get his children.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
We do it through microphones on stage.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
They do it through reality TV. So I guess, no, Shade,
I think one and Carla are going to be in No,
I think one is actually terrified of Carla. The cutaways
to him when she was talking about her magic stick
and all the woo woo stuff. He was like, whoa,
So no, I think she's in he's out.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Okay, all right, all right, wait wait, hang on seconds.
So you think he'll say no, but she'll say yes. Okay,
that's good to know. All right, Camille and Thomas, those are.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
The boring ones. Yes, Oh he'll say yes. She'll say no.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Mm hmm okay h m. M Andy Kach, that's hard.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
She definitely is going to say yes. But now you
told me about Texas, so they're going to say yes.
He wants to be famous.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Okay. Cool. David and Michelle, Oh well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
No, how long do you think they'll last this? I
think that that's the question we should ask about them,
Like how many episode eisodes before they drop out?

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
I mean, it's it's coming soon after this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
They have to go live together. They put them in
a party together.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
I think at the end of the next episode she's like,
I can't do this anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Yeah, okay, all right, and then Madison and Allen no, no,
all right, great, well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Then we have one more question for you. Julie and
I think I know what the answer is, but it's
very important. It is Julie Golden, Will you continue to
watch Married at First Sight?

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
I will not. No, I will not.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
I will never watch this show again.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
I do what.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
I am very concerned about the soul of our country
beaten before the election. When I saw that the show
is on for eighteen seasons, got very worried.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
And you know what, a season lasts about six months. Yeah, yeah,
they stretch those eight weeks. Yeah, they stretched those eight
weeks out to six months.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
I think they're trained to kill us and fair. I
do want to go back. I said one couple would
get married, right, you did? Because I also suspect has
there been a season where nobody gets married?

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
They all get married? Sorry, divorce?

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
There is there one where they Is there ever one
where they all get divorced?

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
I feel like, yeah, last season, and I don't think
any of them got like stayed together.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I'm just because I think one of those that they
everybody said, no, I.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Feel like that's not good for the show. So I
imagine if I'm a producer, which I'm not, I would
be like, you know what, give it a chance, Like
you're already married.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
I mean, get a photo spread.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
And People magazine, milk this thing flowers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
And get the buck out.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Just don't get pregnant. That'd be my advice.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
All right, well, thank you Julie Golden, our guest with
fantastic insights. We are going to have you. Would you
would you do a bonus episode where you tell all
of this stuff? It's gold it is.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
I was gonna say, if you want, there's so many
of us out of work right now, if you wanted
to get a bunch of us on just to tell
secrets and tales you have, no, there's so much crazy ship. Yes, yes, yes,
like when are we talking about the medical show I did?
Okay anyway, yes, okay, that's gonna be a great episode.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Okay, yes, so yeah great, so yeah, goods you'll be
on again. Yeah, subscribe to the podcast if you uh,
send us an email man finally single one at gmail
dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
I think is our email?

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Yes, oh yes, plugged, Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
No, it's all right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
I produce a show called The Big D and it's
a debased divorced debased. It is a matchmaking show for
divorced singles. It's a comedy show, a live comedy show
not meant for TV, and it's about everybody dating on
the back half of life who has seen some shit
coming together for another swing, another swing at the love Apple.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
The next one for that is going to be a December.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
Fourteenth, and so come on down and then More Reliable
is just a plain old comedy show that Dana Weddle
and I produce once a month at cucka Bear Lounge,
and that one is called CNX Tuesday. Yes nice on Tuesdays.
So that one will be December tenth, Yes, yes, December

(01:04:49):
tenth Holiday, and we're gonna have white elephant.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Crazy prizes we're gonna throw out to people. And that's
all I have to say. Nice, awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
What about Oh well, the three of us have a.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Show together on December sixth, Tyler, Jamie and I.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Yes, where's that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
It's going to be at three clubs. It's called Sleigh
Bells and it's a variety show, sketch music for lest comedy.
It's great. I love it, and all the proceeds go
to charity. December six six, yes, at three clubs in
Hollywood at seven pm. Cool and then or suck yeah,

(01:05:28):
or don't support women.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Hate women. If you are not there, not.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
There, Yeah, no, I like that, just guilt.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Yes, I'm going to come.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Can I bring my fifteen year old son? Probably not.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
I'll just be there alone.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Some like to see movies.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
You don't know. It's going to be some underage people
there not drinking. But yeah, yeah, I say yes because
it goes to charity, So yes, bring yours less you
know there'll be.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Put a fake mustache on him.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
You have one? Oh cute? Yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Nice. I also have a show on December fourteenth called Mirthquake.
It'll be a fantastic lineup. Julie has been on Summer,
has been on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Subscriber Put your five Minutes together.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
I one of my friends does a musical comedy show
and they pulled me on stage and it was the
longest three minutes of my life. And literally every image
that he used to promote it, I look like I'm
in the most pain ever. Because on podcasts where you
don't have to see my face, you can just hear

(01:06:50):
my voice and I don't think about it because it's
not live. So it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Yay, yeah, all right, great again, give it up. Julie Golden.
I guess yay what. It is a lot of fun.
Oh my god.