February 19, 2025 • 52 mins
Sommer, Schuyler and Jamie talk about Season 18 Episode 15 of Married At First Sight with special guest Gini Sikes
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to madd and Finally Single.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Jamie Blatt, I'm Summer Austin.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm Skyler fast Jones.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
And this is a meretivers I fan podcast where we
invite a guest on who's never watched an episode. Hey, everybody,
welcome to another episode of madd and Finally Single. We
have a guest today. As usual, What did I do
with my guests? Introduct here it is? Yeah, so our
(00:30):
guest today. She has a stand up comedian and a journalist.
Please give it up for Jenny Sikes.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Hey, tell us a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Okay, Well, I'm a stand up comic and I talk
a lot about true crime because I'm also a journalist
and I cover like homicide and serial killers, but have
also worked for Women's magazine and talk about relationships. I
got them. Why did I.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Not know this?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
They know I love true crime, watching true crime shows
all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Understand up, Yeah, Jamie, I was gonna say what I
always tell people who are into true crime, get help.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Well that's fair, Yeah for sure, all right?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Fair. She's very funny. Oh my god, Jenny or hilarious.
I love her comedy.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
I have a question for you do you watch other
reality TV besides true crime or is it just the
true crime?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I don't even watch true crime. I got a really
small attention span, so anything that keeps going. And also
I've worked in television, so reality shows kind of annoy
me because I'm always thinking, you know, oh, the producers
set them up or you know, something like that. So yeah,
not so much.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So you definitely loved watching this fifteen hour episode?
Speaker 6 (02:00):
Oh yeah, thankfully I had there, which I love.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I don't know if they're a low budget.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Is it low budget because why are they in a
retreat in Illinois? Like usually they send them to a
retreat like with a pool and stuff. And then the
other thing is you do see the producers all over,
which I'm like, either that's very meta and very cool,
or it's so low budget they can't edit them out
or tone to move.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah. I noticed that a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
But we saw a lot of production in some of
the shots, and I'm like, oh, that's interesting, that's an
interesting choice.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
I think it was such a mess that there's no
way they couldn't get in on this.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I was like, well, there's one point where some small
person walks into a room, and I was really and
the way they were dressed, I didn't know if they
were another couple, but they were much smaller than everybody,
And I was like, who's that small person? And why
would they conclude that shot?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Oh, are you talking about Jay the producer?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Is he tiny?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Because that's that's what his name.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
It was by themselves, but I don't know about was
there another person there?
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Which I know.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
They went in and talked to Madison.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I wouldn't be say somebody was like I brought my
child to work today.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, yes, and we gave them a headset and you know.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, they're like, you'll blend in and it'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
But that was great because it's real, like you see
what the contestants have to deal with, Like they have
to forget about them, you know, and that's probably not
easy at first.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh I'm sure. I'm sure that's true.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Okay, Well, I guess we're going to start talking about
the couples, and so I'm just going to start off, well,
I'm just going to start off how they started off
with Michelle and David.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Can I ask a question, because have we never watched
the show, is the premise that these people were like
the producers found people and said, you guys are going
to get married, and they're not. They were are rings
and they say that your husband and wife. But then
they're always talking about this decision they have to make.
So I'm assuming they're deciding whether to stay together or not.
(04:09):
So are they legally married or are they just married
for the show?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
They are legally married.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
And when we get to the end of talking about
the couples, I will explain to you the entire premise
of the show.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Okay, we get your predictions, okay, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
All right, So anyway, Michelle, yes you are, yeah you yeah,
you got Yeah. I'll just fill in a little bit
of the gaps, but yes you are. You picked up
on on the premise of the show for the most part.
So anyway, Michelle and David Michelle, Okay, I'm just gonna no,
we need Jenny's Jenny our guest.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
We need her thoughts.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
First.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You remember who Michelle and David are, yes, okay, and.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Just what my opinion is, Well it changed over the show. Okay,
So my first impression, I guess was I was just
I was just figuring it out, like I wrote down notes,
like Okay, she thinks he texted this woman Madison. I
guess at first, I kind of thought that Michelle was
a little over obsessed, over obsessed, a little obsessed. And
(05:12):
you know, when she was saying, oh, nobody listened to me,
I hadn't seen the scene where nobody listened to her,
so I was like, she sounded kind of whiny. So,
you know, I didn't know if he cheated on her
or not, but they were framing it as though like
she was being kind of a whiny bitch about oh
did he do this?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And David, I thought he sounded well, I thought he
sounded you know, he apologized to her, but I didn't
suspect him. I thought he was probably telling the truth,
except I thought it was strange that he wouldn't really
address that. He said, well, it's over, We're done talking
about it. And then this person Tiffany where they he said, oh,
I was really texting someone named Tiffany or something, And
(05:55):
I'm like, Madison Tiffany, like why.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
They Yes, well, yes, Michelle was whining. She was very
much whining about it. So yeah, And and I don't
feel sorry for her at all. Now I know this
is Jenny's first time seeing the show. But Michelle has
been really kind of terrible to David for the whole time.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Oh okay, you don't give me anything.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah, yeah, you know he was, he was, you know, trying.
Well now we know not as much as he said
that he was trying, but he was there and he
was he was trying to, you know, to get to
know her, and you know, he wanted her to get
to know him and everything like that, and she just
she wasn't about it.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
She wasn't about it.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
So yeah, but I went back in my notes. I
went back in the notes of the show, and I
said in our episode two that David would like Madison.
I said, I bet David would like Madison. That's when
I said episode two.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Wow, I call it. Did they foreshadow it? Like did
they show them in the gym, like, you know, glancing
at each other.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
No, this is how they did it.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
They it was in the like it was in like
the previews of the show. They were hinting that there
was going to be some kind of infidelity.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So yeah, and you know, I mean but they also together, like,
let me ask you this, don't you think the producer
set it up that somebody would cheat on somebody, like
they fixed them with someone they would not be attracted to.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And yeah, I also theory that they fucked up and
that they meant because Michelle and Madison are basically twins
in my head, so I am convinced that when they
were matching them up, they've swapped the two either on
accident or on purpose. And you know, maybe David's actually
(07:57):
a producer.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, they're all producer a producer. David's a producer.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Where does the show start out? Because they're in Illinois
at the time at this just at a house. But
I mean usually they're in some sort of glamorous situation.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Well, each season they do it in a different city.
So this this season they're in Chicago and they're in.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Like shared housing, like they're in temporary qu apartments, but
they're on like a couple's retreats. So that's why they're
almost weird house and like you know, Highland Parkers.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I'm sorry, I.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Keep interrupting, I'm sorry, are they are?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
They?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I notice they sleep together, but they sleep together like
old sitcoms, Like they have all their clothes on any of.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Them beds, no bathroom.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Like I'm like, did the producers because usually they want
them to have sex and they show so I was like,
maybe this was supposed to be don't have sex or
you know, I just was wondering, was there any sex
in this show?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Well? There is, there is, there's one. There's one couple
that's show.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah, I'll want to you know, listen, David David is
a man. David is a man who and most men
do not want to acknowledge that they've been hurt. And
he eventually said, yeah, you know, it kind of hurt
me that you you weren't you know, but but he
was showing up and and sucking it up instead of saying, hey,
(09:37):
this is this is really hurtful what you're doing to me.
And he was just trying to, you know, stay positive
and suck it up. And she wasn't giving him anything.
So and he and Madison had a connection. I don't
think they did it maliciously. So I'm I, I don't
feel sorry for Michelle and I'm not mad at either
one of them personally, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And you know that's interesting because my husband cheated on
me with okay, with a friend.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
But he did say it's been seven but he did
say it's affection. But it's been like literally seven weeks.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
But I was going to say I had the same
impression as Jamie, even having been through that, you know,
having somebody leave me for my friend and who was
also married. But I felt the same way. I felt
like they actually genuinely had a connection. And what do
you do?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh, that's really quite gracious of you.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I know, why did my husband leave me? Very gracious
and poor a friend.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, it's very gracious.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I know it only took me twelve years of therapy.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Oh man, well, I mean you know, I mean I
suppose we I don't know, do we want to get
further into this Michelle David thing. And Michelle just kept
she was like, no, something's not right. Something's not right.
He's not telling me the truth.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Us by that, yeah, I thought that was impressive because
I didn't believe it. But when she said the am,
when she said I'm Michelle, I'm Madison. He accidentally did it?
Then I was like, Okay, yeah, I kind of got it.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's like a little timfoil hat. But also like I
loved it. She's like out together that night. There wasn't
any other couple that they talked to, Like if you
send a photo. How did you like the whole thing?
When she was like, there couldn't have been a photo
because how did you accidentally text the wrong person if
(11:33):
the photo would have been in the chat? I was like, ooh,
detective for it.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
She was really good.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Mean she was really good. But do you think that
the producers set it up that for David to text her?
I think so. I think the mistake was not really
a mistake.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I mean that's interesting. Okay, well I do.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
I can tell you one thing, and that's for sure
that that little scene that was staged by you know,
Madison and David was so badly acted.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
There was oh, I'm such a way.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Oh no, there's no way.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
There's no way they that she They hadn't been texting,
she didn't get that text, Like, there's no way that
that was Oh and by the way, the tax was
meant for you, Like what, No, that was a stage,
as Ad Parshall that they stuck right.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
In the middle of their that oh look at.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I did think like they had set it up so
that there would be this thing. But you know, when
they had that conversation on the couch, because I'd never
seen him before, I was like, oh, they really do
like Teacha. I was like, oh, they do, but.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So awkward and hard to watch. It was like watching
like a middle school dance because she's like, I just
I shouldn't, but I have feelings for you.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You guys like them.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
My ride or die and she's like that would be
really cool.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
And I was like, Okay, here's where I'm not good
at true crime because I totally bought it. I had
not seen them before. I didn't know what they were like,
and I was like, oh, that explains why he was
such a dick and he would to, you know, do
this and that. And then I was like, well they
had this connect. I mean I really bought it. Like,
you know, I was like, oh, okay.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
You.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Listen. They don't have to be actors.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
They just have to you know, they just have to
create a scene that is somewhat believable.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I mean, I think we've talked about this at one
point before, but at least we can say that like
David and Madison are not trying to get like agents
and acting careers out of this. They're not there, you know.
I think you always get on reality TV where they're like, oh,
they're just there to like get an acting career, and
I'm like, well, we can say that these two will
(14:06):
definitely not have an acting career ahead of them Skylard.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
What do they do? Do they tell in the course
of the show what they do for a living? Like
what a Madison and David do? Do we know?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I'm clear, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Isn't David like a isn't David like a social worker
or something?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I think he has a nine to five because he's
always like, I'm here on my break.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, yeah, but I thought he was like a social worker.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
According to Wikipedia, David is a project manager, which could
mean one of nine thousand things, and Madison is a
software consultant.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Oh okay, so they both have fake jobs, made up jobs.
I'm a project manager.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
My project is cheating.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Madison's his project, if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, software, but now she's changed to hardware.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Uh uh, I love it.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
I think we know the actors are they're the ones
getting the a DT commercial.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
God no, no, I think Juan made a side deal
with a DT and Carla got fucking thrown into this
or something because she's like, you know, I feel so
safe in this act.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I'm like, what what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I literally wrote down. I was like, this episode brought
to you by a d T. You can turn your
security on whether you're at the gym or at the
toxic couples retreating.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
So randomly an ADYT commercial or did she say something
about ADT?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I missed it when.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
A placement right in the middle.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, and Carla.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Something.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, they were in their bedroom eating breakfast.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Oh. I felt that's how it started. Oh, I felt
so safe.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I love how he literally turned the phone with the
app to the camera as well. I was like, oh,
that's so yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
No way that production didn't put that put him up
to that.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
I Oh, I mean just like we're just like production
put them up with that pottery one in Carla with
the pottery thing and the hair.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Let me also, I have to say that the whole
thing was brought to you by Tobo Chico hard Seltzer.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Holy ship, there's a lot of hard Seltzers around that house.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
In this episode, nobody seemed like sometimes in those shows
they're drinking and these people seem pretty tame. At least
in this episode.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Triggery trash Alan was trashed.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
My heart brought.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I mean, I was literally crying for Alan at the
end because I know how hurt he is and it
was just it was, oh, it was heart wrenching.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
There were that I related to him too because I
was in that position, you know. But I did feel
very sorry for him.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
There were many moments and that breakdown that I felt
bad for him, but definitely one of them. And like
I shouldn't have laughed, but I did. But He's like,
I just spent three thousand dollars on clothes for this.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Oh I know, I know, three thousand, man, Okay, that
was like.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Make not much money on these things, you know, it's
not like this is a big money maker for them. Well,
he seems so Midwestern to me.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
They're all from Chicago.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Oh oh okay, yeah, yeah, they all.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
They all live in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
They don't.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Pretty much from like around Chicago too, Like they're all
pretty much Illinois people.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I thought Alan was from Wisconsin because I grew up
in Wisconsin, and I just thought, oh, keep reminds me
of guys in Wisconsin for some reason. You never know,
he does have a little bit of he does have
that vibe.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
I Okay.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I have to say though, I'm going to forever. That
scene in the kitchen was such a good scene. When
Michelle was spiraling and trying. I like, I'm going to
be showing that to my acting classes forever from now on.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
That is such a good scene.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
She was like, try and get information, but yeah, dealing
with him at the same time.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Oh my god, I couldn't It was riveting.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
It was such good TV, wasn't it, oh Man?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
And then when he clicked like yes, She's like, I.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Could be spiraling, Alan, Alan, I could be spiraling.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Michelle maybe a whiny bitch, But I don't know because
I always saw that episode. But she did play that
really well because she didn't just come out. She let
she led him to it, which was actually the better
thing to do because then he asked to Disciple, do
I believe this or not, rather than her say you know.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, Well you could see the wheels.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah, you could see his wheels turning, going wait a minute,
did I see some things that Maybe Now, because you do,
you start to go back and think of everything that
they said, that their interactions, I bet you he was
sitting and going, man, they were kind of hitting it off.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
You know, you could just see him slowly coming to
the conclusion that, oh shit, maybe was it.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Obvious to you guys, Like, did you know, like coming
into this episode that she was right or you didn't
know for sure?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
We thought she was right.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
We were pretty sure she was right.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, but you didn't know for sure.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
No, Ginny, I had the exact same experience as you.
I mean we've like, you know, both done seen each
other stand up. But like that's exactly how it happened
for me too. It is like somebody led me to it.
My sister actually was the one, oh, the exact same
you know, where she was like, you know.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
The exact same thing.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Like it's much better to let the person figure it
out for themselves, right, because that's otherwise.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You're going to fight him on it.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Yeah, I believe it.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah right.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
It's a horrible feeling though, poor guy.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, that did seem real, like you know, I mean,
it did seem like he really was hurt and if
he wasn't, if that was acting, he was very good.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
No.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
No, Michelle is whiney and like she doesn't really care
about this relationship. It's just more like she wants to
be right. But with Alan, it's like I think that
he genuinely was here to find love and was like
really expecting and hoping for it, and especially when he's
like I've told her early on when he was like,
(21:01):
I knew that she didn't like me, but I told her,
if you ever don't like me and you want out,
just back out. And so like I felt bad for her, right,
I was like.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, and again, you don't know everything they say. You
don't know everything they say to each other. But in
a little bit I saw I felt like they showed
them a you know, the bumper car thing. The way
they were talking, it sounded like he was saying, well,
we're coming up to a decision or whatever, and she
wasn't saying I'm not attracted to you. Then, you know,
I thought she was interested in him because I hadn't
(21:31):
seen the prior thing. But but Michelle.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
She couldn't didn't shut out three thousand dollars that for
those fucking clothes like the episode before, and he got
like like smile direct club for her and stuff, and
then then he's like wearing his fucking new clothes to
the bumber cars.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
And then of course she couldn't. She couldn't be like, oh, well,
fuck you, dude.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
That's so sad, And it's kind of pathetic on his
end too, Like, I mean, that's tough. He doesn't look
like a man who would have a hard time finding
a woman, you know, given the odds, you know. But
I didn't see anything else about that epic. But Michelle,
if she was known to David them, that also changes
my impression, you know, like if she was being why
(22:19):
would she care? Then why would she just you know,
because I didn't get it, like if she did she
want him to admit it just to admit it, or
did she want you know, like all of a sudden
she's like, oh, I really love him. I don't know
what it was.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
No, I mean because she literally had a breakdown on
their wedding night and she's like he lives with his parents.
I don't want to be with it, like she lives. Why,
Like I have such mixed feelings because like on his end,
I'm like, well, don't go out and like flirt and
talk to other women and like she But at the
same time, it's like I see where he's coming from,
(22:51):
because he's like, you wouldn't give me affection, like you
literally like you It's very obvious that she's repulsed by him.
So like, if this wasn't, you know, a reality show,
if it was the real world, and he was like, well,
I'm just going to cheat on you to get what
I want, I'd be like, well that's bad. But like
he obviously just can't get out of the relationship while
else they're off the show.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yea, And I still think I still think that that
was set up because you know, you know, you all
met somebody that they might be a great person, but
for whatever reason, you're not attracted to them romantically, and
there's nothing they can do that is going to make
that happen. And so I assumed that the producers wanted
at least one couple who felt that way, like she, oh,
(23:32):
I like blonde guys who work in you know, banking,
and you know, then David showed up, so it's hard.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
To know, Like I like slobs who live in their
parents' basement and probably smell disgusting every single moment of
the day. Like I can smell that man every episode.
I'm like, oh, oh.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
We know that.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
You know where Madison was going.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
She was going down to the basement layer given him
an h by the cagerator.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
No, that's really lame. He'd take anything because he wasn't
getting nice.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I know, we're not going to have much to say
about them, so I just want to get them out
of the way now so we can go back to
all the good, juicy stuff. Butl and Thomas, uh, you know,
had a very healthy conversation in the hot tub. There.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
That's the couple that's had sex.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I really liked them. I mean I didn't know if
I believe them. I was like, really met this person
seven weeks ago. Now you're talking about what you're going
to do about kids, you know. But and I think, like,
you know, it's a possibility that they would stay together.
But maybe they really had chemistry. But you know, you
all know you can have chemistry for three months and
then it's gone, you know. So but I thought as
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as a reality couple and what they were supposed to
stand for, I like them. I think they seem nice.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Yeah, yeah, they are the most boring couple. But yes,
the healthiest couple.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
That's so funny, I wrote in my notes, I said,
everything is so drawn out, their conversations are so boring.
I don't care if they want kids or wait two years,
and then I said, where did you find all these
men who want to get married.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Chicago?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I mean, to be fair, Tom's also forty one. He's like,
all right, I'm ready now. I guess yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Well I will say this about Camille. I don't know
if you guys caught this, but Camille was the.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
One that encouraged that the conversation needed to come out
at the couple's retreat.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Do you guys catch which conversation she was encouraging? The
there goes bad?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
I know, Sorry, I'm trying trying to come back.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
She encouraged Matt what Michelle Oh to approach them at
the couple's retreat about.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Well, that's kind of maybe she she's the person who's
open to talking.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Maybe maybe she's like I feel like Camille secretly is
like I'm the boring one. Nobody pay attention to me.
But really she's just like stirring the pot in the background.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I think she was to get more camera time.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I also love how like her and Tom just fully
stay out of everything, because Tom at one point was like,
I'm too old for this bullshit, and I was like,
that's funny. And then after like all the dramas comes
you know, to an end, and like Alan's packing up,
Michelle's crying, all this other stuff, blah blah blah. Camille
just comes out of her bedroom's like, oh, what's going on?
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What's happening? And I was like, bitch, she's just there
to watch the everything fall apart and be like, oh,
I was just sleeping and I'm gonna go back to bed.
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Icon it loved it. I know she has such an icon.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I love it, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
And I also like that Tom's not an idiot because
during the whole like who's the who's most likely to
cheat question during the game, he's like, oh, I just
I don't know, like I'm a bad liar. I was like, no,
you just didn't want to get caught up in the drama,
so you just said yourself. That's my thought. Because he's
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like everybody else is like ragging on David and he's like, well, yeah,
I put down me because I'm a bad liar, like
I wouldn't do it, oh.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Right right yeah yeah yeah yeah, way to stay yeah yeah.
And also he got himself off the hook by saying
me only because I'm a bad liar, like I wouldn't lie,
which is like saying I'm a saint. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Goodness him and Camille. I love them.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Yeah, they're so great. Apparently sleeping they talked about an
after party because Camille is on app party.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Yeah yeah, but I just saw how she was like,
I think we're gonna have to You're gonna have to
talk to him. And I was like, thank you, Camille,
thank you set it up perfectly.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Also, before we get back to the drama, because there's
still a lot to talk about, I just want to
talk about Wan and his improvis o.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
God, when did.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
He sing in the bedroom?
Speaker 5 (28:30):
No? He wasn't around the fireplace the fire pit.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh no. He also didn't he take the guitar in
bed and sing something or am I just hoping that happened?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Who knows what? He was so fucked up in that
backyard playing my guitar. Were like he's like carl I
was like, oh, you are wracked.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Carla deserves an Academy Award for her performance around that campfire.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
But remember them doing anything around that. I really thought
Carlo was cute by the way.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
She's so cute, and she was like, bame, She's like
baby crush.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Chat babe, babe, you're fucking you're the next Bob Dylan, Like.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
What, oh my god, I got He's like, this song
makes me feel as safe as.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
That's so funny, that's brilliant.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I just love that they would just randomly cut back
to those two in the middle of the drama because
I'm like, these two are just like there to get
fucked up. They don't like, they're like, what's going on
doesn't evolve us? Great cool.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well, one thing I had to give the show credit for.
I thought for sure he was going to get behind
her like ghost and they were going to turn when
they were doing the Polly and they were going to
do a ghost thing. I was just waiting for it.
Oh thank god they did it. But I couldn't believe
that they didn't.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
You know, I don't know if you caught Carla's look
to the camera when he said let's work on your
second piece now. She just kind of gave a look
to the camera like what is like, what's happening here?
Speaker 5 (30:12):
You know?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
And he starts making all these innu windows like here,
let me let me make it a little bit deeper.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Is this too deep?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That okay? That that I thought he was clueless. Do
you think he was doing that on purpose? Because he
was it was so on the nose I thought, I thought,
I mean, I don't think he's too stupid to know
what he's saying. Maybe that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I feel like, I don't think he knew. I think
Carla knew because she was laughing and like her own,
But I don't think.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
He knew, That's what I thought.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I don't think he did either, because he was on
After Party and it was it kind of like dawned
on him on After Party that what he was saying.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Oh no, And I'm like, really, you.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Didn't know me During the clips, it's always fun to
watch the little answert of their face is when they
play those clips back.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I also so I typically don't watch After Party because
after five hours of an episode, I'm like, but when
they first welcomed their guests, I didn't realize there was
like a special guest. I was like, Oh, they have
Michelle and Madison on this episode.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
No, they're a pregnant astrologer. Yeah, they had both that
would have been like Jerry Springer.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
And they were next to each other.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
They're gonna be on the reunion episode together.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
So I think though I don't know why Michelle would
even care, because she wasn't interested. I mean by now
like now, it's just good television.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I think it's just for her. I think it's just
literally like she has to be right about it.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
One thing about the after party, when they run on
the astrologer, I was like, what the like she was
a social worker who was an astrologer. I was like, oh,
so is this child in danger? Let's check the stars.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
I mean, listen, a party is getting so out there
with the birth. I'm like, listen, we're in LA. That's
a that's a stretch for me. Holy smokes.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Yeah boy, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Okay, So let me just make sure we've got the
other couple so we can get back to the Michelle
and David saga. I think we got everything we need
to say about them out of the way. I mean,
they may creep in a little bit, but for the
most part, we have them out of the way.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Sure, well, except there was one thing. It has to
do with one.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
It has to do with the the Can we talk
about the who's most likely to.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought that Alan was gonna
say that one has a big dick.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yes, yes, he was saying that your poor like you
was saying something like your Mexican pool boy or something.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
It was so weird, so weird.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
He was like his you know, I'm like his what
you know?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
When they were all in a group.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Package, I don't know it was maybe it was just
a pool boy thing, but I was so confused what.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Pool boy?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Oh. I was like, I feel like that this is racist.
And then like yes to one and like on his
like confession cam and they were like, show us your
pool boy. And he's like I don't understand what that means.
And I was like, oh, like, it's twenty twenty five,
don't be racist.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
And then he unbuttoned his shirt, un buttton his shirt
and go, here's my pool boy.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
But that being said, Alan and One, I would watch
that Poorno already watched this so hard.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Oh my god, we.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Watched this so hard.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
But you would.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Question. There was one woman who was single. I assumed
that her would be husband left.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
We did talk about am.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
We didn't talk about who's most likely to swap partners who.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So he tried to serve her divorce papers at the
beginning of the couple's retreat, but he only had one
page of the four pages and she was like, no,
you can leave, I'll sign the full thing when you're up.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Did she? I mean they did, They just didn't get
on right away at first.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
They got a long.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Yeah he is real strange guy.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, yeah, Well.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Don't you think to agree to marry a stranger on
TV makes them all strange? Yes, because I don't think
they're getting much money. They're probably just getting said you
know or whatever.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
For sure the segmentimum, yeah, of course, and then yeah,
and probably not too many promotional deals except for one
in Carla clearly now right in the middle of the show,
like forget just aside, We're just gonna do it right smack.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Tab in the middle of the show.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
We have no shame left anymore, just shameless, ridiculous, egregious
plug right here. And that's probably it. And then they
get some Instagram followers, and then they're a flash in
the pan that everyone forgets about them.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
So I think that their whole live is ruined by
the show.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I don't even know that if they're getting that many
Instagram followers, because I tried to follow. I went to
go look up one right now to see if he
had like a post about ADT on his Instagram and
it's private.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
First off, oh well, good for him.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
So if he is getting like any advertisement requests, he's
probably not getting many or paid a lot because it's
not public. But he also has like less than three
thousand followers, so probably shut.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
It down for the well it's airing, I mean it's
gotta be.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, he might, I think, yeah, and did The producers
might have even asked him to because he doesn't seem shy,
So I don't know why you wouldn't make it private.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
You know, his flight time app Instagram account though very public.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
I thought you was gonna start playing on his app
and being like I see some people here.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
On this couple's retreat. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
So okay, So do we have anything else about any
of the other couples before we go right back to Madison,
Alan David Michelle the.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Couple the words latex play.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Latex play, adult.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
When did that happen?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
During likely to It was.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Alan's question, Yeah, who's into latex play? And everybody was like.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
What yeah, because nobody else knew what it was, but
Alan did.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Right Alan's like, well, you do this, and then the
like the outfit has this and blah blah blah, and
then he's like okay, never mind, and everybody's like okay,
oh my god, Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Now my opinion of Allan kind of changes because I
saw him not into latex play.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Oh see, like I'm more into it now. I'm like, okay, Alan,
call me.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
He just seems like he'd be so awkward at it.
Oh yeah, he doesn't like natural.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I feel like he's secretly just really freaky obvious, least
expect I'm sure he wants.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
To do adult latex play with a pool boy's.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Hearing now he called you want a pool boy and
then starts talking about late chex play.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
You're right, Yeah, you just discover that Allen's maybe a
little by.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Oh I don't know, maybe it seems a little uptight
to be by, but but maybe secretly gay.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
He's not ready yet. He's not ready to come out,
and once he comes out, he'll be like a lot
more you know, happy.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
He'll be into latex and leather.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Yes we can we.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Go now to the uh, the sort of situation that
MM and and one we're trying to contain after because
that scene was great too, by the way, and.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Then is a hero hero. I love her. She's like,
let's not drink and drive. Let's like, I understand that
you're upset, but like you can be upset, but let's
not also like, you know, be disrespectful. Let's not dis people.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
And don't destroy yourself.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Basically yes, And I was like, because she knows that
she kind of came up that way a little bit
when she had her melt down, and so she's also
trying to protect him.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, yeah, I thought she handled that really well. And
I thought wand was Wan high because I mean what
he was saying was really silly, like this is positive
and will be over in a minute.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
You know, they were all high.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
I mean they were all high and trash probably not
m M, but like like, oh my god, Alan and
so much Topo Chico in him. Oh dang, oh dang,
my friend, he did the whole I spent three though.
I mean I want to like type up that monologue
and perform it. And then you started talking about butterflies, butterflies, butterflies, butterfly.
(39:41):
I just love it when reality TV stars go into
like a straight up theatrical monologue in the Men Love
the episode.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
It was so good.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
What was the butterfly? What was the butterfly reference?
Speaker 6 (39:53):
I don't know, but I thought at one point he
was going to refence retainer out and throw it.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I was like, please God, the butterflies butterflies was referring
to love or something.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
You would be positive.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
I think they told me butterflies, butterflies, butterfly. I mean,
I don't know when you started talking about butterflies, I was,
I was.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
It sent me.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Oh my god. The editors of this episode deserve like
an Emmy because I was like the amount. I was like,
you were able to get a whole storyline when of
that conversation was just bleeped out.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Oh so many bleeps.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
And I was like, good job editing team ten out
of ten.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I thought, the playing how many bleeps? Because usually in
reality shows they seem to try to not I mean,
but even when they weren't mad, they were saying, you know,
ship and stuff like that, Oh s gotta bleep.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
No you don't, no, you no, you can curse them.
I mean, we talked about Latex play for crying out.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
They talked about it a lifetime.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Okay, right, this bleepoat Latex.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Are you into bleep play?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Oh that would be fine, if that would be more salacious.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Well, I feel like I feel like the producers had
a huge hand in a lot of this because when
when it all started off, when Michelle went into the kitchen,
Alan followed her in there, and I.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Was like, well, why would he Why would he follow
her into the kitchen? You know what?
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Didn't ask him to go with her? Though? At one
point did she.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
That first time? Yeah? I think she did. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I thought she was like, can we talk really quickly?
But maybe not because he knew.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
He needed to go cook. He needed to go.
Speaker 6 (41:40):
He's cooking the whole time, he's cooking food for everybody.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
I'm dead dad. It was so good.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
I can't when he said and I wrote down here
because I literally spit my tea out during that scene
in the kitchen when they're like talking, She's like, I
could be spiraling, Ellen, Alan, I could be spile, Like.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
What what do you have? Was this? Where's this reaction
coming from? Are you? Do you think it's true?
Speaker 6 (42:05):
And then he goes, I don't know, and he goes,
he goes, But if it's true, I'm gonna flip my shit,
I spin my tea out.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
It was so funny and great TV.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Oh you know.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Also we said this before, but it was truly sad, like.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
I know it.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
It was just like I was like, I can't believe
I went from like just you know, knocking the show
the whole time, and by the end of it, I
was like really affected and I thought about it for days.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Can I just say, there's something so funny.
Speaker 6 (42:37):
I was gonna send it to you guys on Reddit,
but it was like a comments threat, and so like
all the people caught like being like I knew that
Madison was with David backh and blah blah blah blah blah,
and they're like screen grabbing, like you know after Party
where she's turned towards him instead of the host, which
she's like on the other side of her.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
And then somebody else.
Speaker 6 (42:58):
Said I knew it when David got him Visi Ligne
was a dead giveaway line on After Party, I think
at one point, and they were like, see, this is
why I have to watch the after party sky because
all the all the clues come together in the after party.
And then somebody wrote down underneath that girl loves a
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discount code.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
It was so funny.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
I had to go on to Reddit so that I
could watch the after party because my DVR doesn't doesn't
record it anymore. You can't watch it on the website,
on the Lifetime website, and.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
So I had to. I had.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
I was like, Okay, somebody's got this episode. So there
was a Reddit where they post the link to the episode.
So that's how I got to see it. And I
was like, oh, I'm so glad I got to see it.
It was so much Yeah, that's where all the little
blues come together.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
But this so this is so when David went and
talked to Alan, you know, he's like, he's like, we
have a situation. But Alan was he was pett and
he was like, no, fuck her and fuck you.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
I just love how he's like just fully cut, staved
off and it's like, I don't fucking care, man, I
don't want to hear it. Just fucking say it. I
don't care. I'm done.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
So that realistic, you know, because I remember when my
friend and you know, I would try to talk to me.
I'm like, no, just go ahead, and you know, I
didn't say I didn't even say fuck you. I was
just like, just leave, go away.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
You're a better person than me. Jenny, I wanted to
burn my entire house to the ground.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Oh no, I wanted to do that, and I and
I said horrible things to my husband. I was a banshee.
But it's been a long time.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Love your therapy, everybody.
Speaker 6 (45:00):
That's how long it takes, it's true to goe over
something like this. I wonder how long it takes when
you also add humiliation on national television to.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
All of it.
Speaker 6 (45:11):
Really, yeah, seven weeks of sixteen hour days of filming.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah, but you know what, I bet Adam gets some
girls will be interested in him.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
Now, Yes, yeah, that's true, very true, you know.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
And oh the other thing that Michelle picked up on,
which which obviously I don't know why they even thought
that this was because Michelle or Madison had said, yeah,
you know, we text each other, you know, to go
to the gym or whatever. And then when she got
her phone, now there's no text messages, and he's like,
but you said that you text each other to go
to the gym, but now there's no text messages.
Speaker 6 (45:46):
But what she said an after party too was the
thing that was so great. She types in his name
and that literally every reference.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
To him in all of her phone texts to other
people came up.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
And then she's like, oh.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
Gat up potention that well.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
And also when she's like, do you guys message each
other on social media? And she's like no, and then
she goes like onto Instagram and she's like, well, his
name's the first one to pop up.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Oh I forgot. Oh you know. I wonder if they
egged her on to do that though, because if she
don't like the guy, I mean, it was great what
she did. I thought, like the detective work was great,
and she was she was spot on, like when everybody oh,
and then she noticed that Madison was the one like, well,
let's not talk about this, you know, she said she
referred to a prior episode. But I'm just wondering if
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the producer has egged around, because if she truly didn't
like the guy and was repulsed by him, why would
she care.
Speaker 6 (46:40):
Listen, if she wasn't being fed information by producers and
she did all that herself. What she may have done,
she is a great detective and I think she should
figure out who killed John Benet Ramsey had her on
the case.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Listen, she could find Jimmy Hoffa okay, and.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
She probably doesn't give a shit about Jimmy how know
who he is, but she'd go do it just to find.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
Out exactly exactly. Do we have anything else to say
about any of this? I think we pretty much we
said it right, I think we yeah, yeah, okay, all right,
Well so this was great.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
It's so cathartic to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
I know.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
So now we come to the part of the show
where we get our guest predictions about these couples. So,
since this is the first time Ginny ever watched the show,
I'm just going to give a little rundown about how
it works. So there are experts and they match these couples.
These couples meet for the very first time at the
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altar and they get married. They have eight weeks to
decide whether or not I want they want to stay
married or get a divorce. So at the end of
the eight weeks, they go in front of the experts
and they say yes, I want to stay married, or
know I want to get a divorce, And if one
says yes and the other says no, they get a divorce.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
So with that being said, do you think.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
That Michelle and David will say yes or no on
decision day.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I think they'll say yes because the producers will say
it's a better television.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Okay, all right, how about Madison and Allen?
Speaker 2 (48:23):
But how long does the show go on? I mean,
how many more episodes are there?
Speaker 5 (48:27):
Not that manymore?
Speaker 4 (48:28):
There's not that many because normally by now, because it's
only been on what we've been doing this what like
four months? And this is month four and normally a
season is like six months long.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Oh wow, this going to be that long's it's eight
weeks in real time, but they drag it out for
eight months?
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 5 (48:49):
How many more episodes? Like three or four?
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Two? There can't be.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Is this the first season or have they done this before?
Speaker 1 (48:56):
This is season eighteen?
Speaker 3 (48:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Wow, I'm really out of it.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
No, it's great, Okay, Madis, I'm glad you have never
seen it, Madis Allen?
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Madison and Allen No, okay, Uh, Carla and Juan.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
I think they'll try for a little longer, unless they're
both faking it for the TV. But I don't know.
I think they might just do it for a little
while and if it split.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
And Camille and Thomas I think they will try. Yeah,
Okay and m m Andy Katie, they're already done.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
So MM and Allen should get together.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
Yeah, maybe as they both.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Got dumped kind of yeah, or michellon Allen.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (49:38):
Well okay, Ginny, I have one more question for you,
and it's pretty important.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
Will you continue to watch Married at First Sight?
Speaker 2 (49:46):
No, but I'm gonna go back and watch the after
party about that because I did start to watch it. No,
I will watch like after this because I've got kind
of excited talking about it. But yeah, it takes a
lot to make me watch something. You know, in many episodes.
Speaker 5 (50:02):
Yeah, and they're not always that's good, but.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
This, Yeah, I was so happy that it was a
good one. I was so happy that I'd actually took
me through all these emotions, like I did not expect
to feel anything at the end, as like what a
bunch of idiots, And then by the end I was
I still think about Alan, how hurtful that was.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
You did a good job with this one.
Speaker 4 (50:26):
Yeah, this was. This was a great episode. You had
a good one. So thanks again to our guest Jenny Sykes.
Speaker 5 (50:33):
J love you.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
Yes, do you have any shows coming up? So this
episode will come out on Wednesday, So anything after Wednesday, well, I.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Don't have my calendar in front of me. I just
know March something, March, oh, uh, March.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
I better not plug it because I don't know my dates.
But I'm I perform all over La La.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
So follow her on Instagram and you'll find out where
she's going to summer.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Do you have anything to plug?
Speaker 6 (51:02):
Yes, I have a stand up comedy class I'm teaching
in March Thursdays in March, and it's uh, it's enrolling now.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
Yay, that's awesome, Jenny, that's awesome. I know that Skyler
has the what's it called dang It?
Speaker 1 (51:21):
What's the name of huh rock card Tits.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
Yes, rock Hard Tits show that's coming up, and I
don't know the dates, but I'll put it in the notes.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
And I have a Kickstarter campaign for my movie Harold Washington.
We want Harold about Harold Washington, so we're trying to
raise some money for that.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
I got a date. I got a date, so I
don't sound like a total loser. Okay, March eighth, I'm
at Flappers at seven.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Yayh okay, awesome, great, great.
Speaker 5 (51:51):
Everyone should go see Jenny.
Speaker 4 (51:53):
She's yes, very funny, very funny once again, Jenny side.
Speaker 5 (51:59):
Kay, that was fun.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
This was a lot of fun. Yay
Welcome to madd and Finally Single.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Jamie Blatt, I'm Summer Austin.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm Skyler fast Jones.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
And this is a meretivers I fan podcast where we
invite a guest on who's never watched an episode. Hey, everybody,
welcome to another episode of madd and Finally Single. We
have a guest today. As usual, What did I do
with my guests? Introduct here it is? Yeah, so our
(00:30):
guest today. She has a stand up comedian and a journalist.
Please give it up for Jenny Sikes.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Hey, tell us a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Okay, Well, I'm a stand up comic and I talk
a lot about true crime because I'm also a journalist
and I cover like homicide and serial killers, but have
also worked for Women's magazine and talk about relationships. I
got them. Why did I.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Not know this?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
They know I love true crime, watching true crime shows
all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Understand up, Yeah, Jamie, I was gonna say what I
always tell people who are into true crime, get help.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Well that's fair, Yeah for sure, all right?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Fair. She's very funny. Oh my god, Jenny or hilarious.
I love her comedy.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
I have a question for you do you watch other
reality TV besides true crime or is it just the
true crime?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I don't even watch true crime. I got a really
small attention span, so anything that keeps going. And also
I've worked in television, so reality shows kind of annoy
me because I'm always thinking, you know, oh, the producers
set them up or you know, something like that. So yeah,
not so much.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So you definitely loved watching this fifteen hour episode?
Speaker 6 (02:00):
Oh yeah, thankfully I had there, which I love.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I don't know if they're a low budget.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Is it low budget because why are they in a
retreat in Illinois? Like usually they send them to a
retreat like with a pool and stuff. And then the
other thing is you do see the producers all over,
which I'm like, either that's very meta and very cool,
or it's so low budget they can't edit them out
or tone to move.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah. I noticed that a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
But we saw a lot of production in some of
the shots, and I'm like, oh, that's interesting, that's an
interesting choice.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
I think it was such a mess that there's no
way they couldn't get in on this.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I was like, well, there's one point where some small
person walks into a room, and I was really and
the way they were dressed, I didn't know if they
were another couple, but they were much smaller than everybody,
And I was like, who's that small person? And why
would they conclude that shot?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Oh, are you talking about Jay the producer?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Is he tiny?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Because that's that's what his name.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
It was by themselves, but I don't know about was
there another person there?
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Which I know.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
They went in and talked to Madison.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I wouldn't be say somebody was like I brought my
child to work today.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, yes, and we gave them a headset and you know.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, they're like, you'll blend in and it'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
But that was great because it's real, like you see
what the contestants have to deal with, Like they have
to forget about them, you know, and that's probably not
easy at first.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh I'm sure. I'm sure that's true.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Okay, Well, I guess we're going to start talking about
the couples, and so I'm just going to start off, well,
I'm just going to start off how they started off
with Michelle and David.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Can I ask a question, because have we never watched
the show, is the premise that these people were like
the producers found people and said, you guys are going
to get married, and they're not. They were are rings
and they say that your husband and wife. But then
they're always talking about this decision they have to make.
So I'm assuming they're deciding whether to stay together or not.
(04:09):
So are they legally married or are they just married
for the show?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
They are legally married.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
And when we get to the end of talking about
the couples, I will explain to you the entire premise
of the show.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Okay, we get your predictions, okay, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
All right, So anyway, Michelle, yes you are, yeah you yeah,
you got Yeah. I'll just fill in a little bit
of the gaps, but yes you are. You picked up
on on the premise of the show for the most part.
So anyway, Michelle and David Michelle, Okay, I'm just gonna no,
we need Jenny's Jenny our guest.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
We need her thoughts.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
First.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You remember who Michelle and David are, yes, okay, and.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Just what my opinion is, Well it changed over the show. Okay,
So my first impression, I guess was I was just
I was just figuring it out, like I wrote down notes,
like Okay, she thinks he texted this woman Madison. I
guess at first, I kind of thought that Michelle was
a little over obsessed, over obsessed, a little obsessed. And
(05:12):
you know, when she was saying, oh, nobody listened to me,
I hadn't seen the scene where nobody listened to her,
so I was like, she sounded kind of whiny. So,
you know, I didn't know if he cheated on her
or not, but they were framing it as though like
she was being kind of a whiny bitch about oh
did he do this?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And David, I thought he sounded well, I thought he
sounded you know, he apologized to her, but I didn't
suspect him. I thought he was probably telling the truth,
except I thought it was strange that he wouldn't really
address that. He said, well, it's over, We're done talking
about it. And then this person Tiffany where they he said, oh,
I was really texting someone named Tiffany or something, And
(05:55):
I'm like, Madison Tiffany, like why.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
They Yes, well, yes, Michelle was whining. She was very
much whining about it. So yeah, And and I don't
feel sorry for her at all. Now I know this
is Jenny's first time seeing the show. But Michelle has
been really kind of terrible to David for the whole time.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Oh okay, you don't give me anything.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah, yeah, you know he was, he was, you know, trying.
Well now we know not as much as he said
that he was trying, but he was there and he
was he was trying to, you know, to get to
know her, and you know, he wanted her to get
to know him and everything like that, and she just
she wasn't about it.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
She wasn't about it.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
So yeah, but I went back in my notes. I
went back in the notes of the show, and I
said in our episode two that David would like Madison.
I said, I bet David would like Madison. That's when
I said episode two.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Wow, I call it. Did they foreshadow it? Like did
they show them in the gym, like, you know, glancing
at each other.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
No, this is how they did it.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
They it was in the like it was in like
the previews of the show. They were hinting that there
was going to be some kind of infidelity.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So yeah, and you know, I mean but they also together, like,
let me ask you this, don't you think the producer
set it up that somebody would cheat on somebody, like
they fixed them with someone they would not be attracted to.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And yeah, I also theory that they fucked up and
that they meant because Michelle and Madison are basically twins
in my head, so I am convinced that when they
were matching them up, they've swapped the two either on
accident or on purpose. And you know, maybe David's actually
(07:57):
a producer.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, they're all producer a producer. David's a producer.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Where does the show start out? Because they're in Illinois
at the time at this just at a house. But
I mean usually they're in some sort of glamorous situation.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Well, each season they do it in a different city.
So this this season they're in Chicago and they're in.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Like shared housing, like they're in temporary qu apartments, but
they're on like a couple's retreats. So that's why they're
almost weird house and like you know, Highland Parkers.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I'm sorry, I.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Keep interrupting, I'm sorry, are they are?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
They?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I notice they sleep together, but they sleep together like
old sitcoms, Like they have all their clothes on any of.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Them beds, no bathroom.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Like I'm like, did the producers because usually they want
them to have sex and they show so I was like,
maybe this was supposed to be don't have sex or
you know, I just was wondering, was there any sex
in this show?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Well? There is, there is, there's one. There's one couple
that's show.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah, I'll want to you know, listen, David David is
a man. David is a man who and most men
do not want to acknowledge that they've been hurt. And
he eventually said, yeah, you know, it kind of hurt
me that you you weren't you know, but but he
was showing up and and sucking it up instead of saying, hey,
(09:37):
this is this is really hurtful what you're doing to me.
And he was just trying to, you know, stay positive
and suck it up. And she wasn't giving him anything.
So and he and Madison had a connection. I don't
think they did it maliciously. So I'm I, I don't
feel sorry for Michelle and I'm not mad at either
one of them personally, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And you know that's interesting because my husband cheated on
me with okay, with a friend.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
But he did say it's been seven but he did
say it's affection. But it's been like literally seven weeks.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
But I was going to say I had the same
impression as Jamie, even having been through that, you know,
having somebody leave me for my friend and who was
also married. But I felt the same way. I felt
like they actually genuinely had a connection. And what do
you do?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh, that's really quite gracious of you.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I know, why did my husband leave me? Very gracious
and poor a friend.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, it's very gracious.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I know it only took me twelve years of therapy.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Oh man, well, I mean you know, I mean I
suppose we I don't know, do we want to get
further into this Michelle David thing. And Michelle just kept
she was like, no, something's not right. Something's not right.
He's not telling me the truth.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Us by that, yeah, I thought that was impressive because
I didn't believe it. But when she said the am,
when she said I'm Michelle, I'm Madison. He accidentally did it?
Then I was like, Okay, yeah, I kind of got it.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's like a little timfoil hat. But also like I
loved it. She's like out together that night. There wasn't
any other couple that they talked to, Like if you
send a photo. How did you like the whole thing?
When she was like, there couldn't have been a photo
because how did you accidentally text the wrong person if
(11:33):
the photo would have been in the chat? I was like, ooh,
detective for it.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
She was really good.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Mean she was really good. But do you think that
the producers set it up that for David to text her?
I think so. I think the mistake was not really
a mistake.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I mean that's interesting. Okay, well I do.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
I can tell you one thing, and that's for sure
that that little scene that was staged by you know,
Madison and David was so badly acted.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
There was oh, I'm such a way.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Oh no, there's no way.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
There's no way they that she They hadn't been texting,
she didn't get that text, Like, there's no way that
that was Oh and by the way, the tax was
meant for you, Like what, No, that was a stage,
as Ad Parshall that they stuck right.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
In the middle of their that oh look at.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I did think like they had set it up so
that there would be this thing. But you know, when
they had that conversation on the couch, because I'd never
seen him before, I was like, oh, they really do
like Teacha. I was like, oh, they do, but.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So awkward and hard to watch. It was like watching
like a middle school dance because she's like, I just
I shouldn't, but I have feelings for you.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You guys like them.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
My ride or die and she's like that would be
really cool.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
And I was like, Okay, here's where I'm not good
at true crime because I totally bought it. I had
not seen them before. I didn't know what they were like,
and I was like, oh, that explains why he was
such a dick and he would to, you know, do
this and that. And then I was like, well they
had this connect. I mean I really bought it. Like,
you know, I was like, oh, okay.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
You.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Listen. They don't have to be actors.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
They just have to you know, they just have to
create a scene that is somewhat believable.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I mean, I think we've talked about this at one
point before, but at least we can say that like
David and Madison are not trying to get like agents
and acting careers out of this. They're not there, you know.
I think you always get on reality TV where they're like, oh,
they're just there to like get an acting career, and
I'm like, well, we can say that these two will
(14:06):
definitely not have an acting career ahead of them Skylard.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
What do they do? Do they tell in the course
of the show what they do for a living? Like
what a Madison and David do? Do we know?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I'm clear, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Isn't David like a isn't David like a social worker
or something?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I think he has a nine to five because he's
always like, I'm here on my break.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, yeah, but I thought he was like a social worker.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
According to Wikipedia, David is a project manager, which could
mean one of nine thousand things, and Madison is a
software consultant.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Oh okay, so they both have fake jobs, made up jobs.
I'm a project manager.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
My project is cheating.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Madison's his project, if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, software, but now she's changed to hardware.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Uh uh, I love it.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
I think we know the actors are they're the ones
getting the a DT commercial.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
God no, no, I think Juan made a side deal
with a DT and Carla got fucking thrown into this
or something because she's like, you know, I feel so
safe in this act.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I'm like, what what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I literally wrote down. I was like, this episode brought
to you by a d T. You can turn your
security on whether you're at the gym or at the
toxic couples retreating.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
So randomly an ADYT commercial or did she say something
about ADT?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I missed it when.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
A placement right in the middle.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, and Carla.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Something.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, they were in their bedroom eating breakfast.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Oh. I felt that's how it started. Oh, I felt
so safe.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I love how he literally turned the phone with the
app to the camera as well. I was like, oh,
that's so yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
No way that production didn't put that put him up
to that.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
I Oh, I mean just like we're just like production
put them up with that pottery one in Carla with
the pottery thing and the hair.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Let me also, I have to say that the whole
thing was brought to you by Tobo Chico hard Seltzer.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Holy ship, there's a lot of hard Seltzers around that house.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
In this episode, nobody seemed like sometimes in those shows
they're drinking and these people seem pretty tame. At least
in this episode.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Triggery trash Alan was trashed.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
My heart brought.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I mean, I was literally crying for Alan at the
end because I know how hurt he is and it
was just it was, oh, it was heart wrenching.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
There were that I related to him too because I
was in that position, you know. But I did feel
very sorry for him.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
There were many moments and that breakdown that I felt
bad for him, but definitely one of them. And like
I shouldn't have laughed, but I did. But He's like,
I just spent three thousand dollars on clothes for this.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Oh I know, I know, three thousand, man, Okay, that
was like.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Make not much money on these things, you know, it's
not like this is a big money maker for them. Well,
he seems so Midwestern to me.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
They're all from Chicago.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Oh oh okay, yeah, yeah, they all.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
They all live in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
They don't.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Pretty much from like around Chicago too, Like they're all
pretty much Illinois people.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I thought Alan was from Wisconsin because I grew up
in Wisconsin, and I just thought, oh, keep reminds me
of guys in Wisconsin for some reason. You never know,
he does have a little bit of he does have
that vibe.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
I Okay.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I have to say though, I'm going to forever. That
scene in the kitchen was such a good scene. When
Michelle was spiraling and trying. I like, I'm going to
be showing that to my acting classes forever from now on.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
That is such a good scene.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
She was like, try and get information, but yeah, dealing
with him at the same time.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Oh my god, I couldn't It was riveting.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
It was such good TV, wasn't it, oh Man?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
And then when he clicked like yes, She's like, I.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Could be spiraling, Alan, Alan, I could be spiraling.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Michelle maybe a whiny bitch, But I don't know because
I always saw that episode. But she did play that
really well because she didn't just come out. She let
she led him to it, which was actually the better
thing to do because then he asked to Disciple, do
I believe this or not, rather than her say you know.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, Well you could see the wheels.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah, you could see his wheels turning, going wait a minute,
did I see some things that Maybe Now, because you do,
you start to go back and think of everything that
they said, that their interactions, I bet you he was
sitting and going, man, they were kind of hitting it off.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
You know, you could just see him slowly coming to
the conclusion that, oh shit, maybe was it.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Obvious to you guys, Like, did you know, like coming
into this episode that she was right or you didn't
know for sure?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
We thought she was right.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
We were pretty sure she was right.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, but you didn't know for sure.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
No, Ginny, I had the exact same experience as you.
I mean we've like, you know, both done seen each
other stand up. But like that's exactly how it happened
for me too. It is like somebody led me to it.
My sister actually was the one, oh, the exact same
you know, where she was like, you know.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
The exact same thing.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Like it's much better to let the person figure it
out for themselves, right, because that's otherwise.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You're going to fight him on it.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Yeah, I believe it.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah right.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
It's a horrible feeling though, poor guy.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, that did seem real, like you know, I mean,
it did seem like he really was hurt and if
he wasn't, if that was acting, he was very good.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
No.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
No, Michelle is whiney and like she doesn't really care
about this relationship. It's just more like she wants to
be right. But with Alan, it's like I think that
he genuinely was here to find love and was like
really expecting and hoping for it, and especially when he's
like I've told her early on when he was like,
(21:01):
I knew that she didn't like me, but I told her,
if you ever don't like me and you want out,
just back out. And so like I felt bad for her, right,
I was like.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, and again, you don't know everything they say. You
don't know everything they say to each other. But in
a little bit I saw I felt like they showed
them a you know, the bumper car thing. The way
they were talking, it sounded like he was saying, well,
we're coming up to a decision or whatever, and she
wasn't saying I'm not attracted to you. Then, you know,
I thought she was interested in him because I hadn't
(21:31):
seen the prior thing. But but Michelle.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
She couldn't didn't shut out three thousand dollars that for
those fucking clothes like the episode before, and he got
like like smile direct club for her and stuff, and
then then he's like wearing his fucking new clothes to
the bumber cars.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
And then of course she couldn't. She couldn't be like, oh, well,
fuck you, dude.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
That's so sad, And it's kind of pathetic on his
end too, Like, I mean, that's tough. He doesn't look
like a man who would have a hard time finding
a woman, you know, given the odds, you know. But
I didn't see anything else about that epic. But Michelle,
if she was known to David them, that also changes
my impression, you know, like if she was being why
(22:19):
would she care? Then why would she just you know,
because I didn't get it, like if she did she
want him to admit it just to admit it, or
did she want you know, like all of a sudden
she's like, oh, I really love him. I don't know
what it was.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
No, I mean because she literally had a breakdown on
their wedding night and she's like he lives with his parents.
I don't want to be with it, like she lives. Why,
Like I have such mixed feelings because like on his end,
I'm like, well, don't go out and like flirt and
talk to other women and like she But at the
same time, it's like I see where he's coming from,
(22:51):
because he's like, you wouldn't give me affection, like you
literally like you It's very obvious that she's repulsed by him.
So like, if this wasn't, you know, a reality show,
if it was the real world, and he was like, well,
I'm just going to cheat on you to get what
I want, I'd be like, well that's bad. But like
he obviously just can't get out of the relationship while
else they're off the show.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yea, And I still think I still think that that
was set up because you know, you know, you all
met somebody that they might be a great person, but
for whatever reason, you're not attracted to them romantically, and
there's nothing they can do that is going to make
that happen. And so I assumed that the producers wanted
at least one couple who felt that way, like she, oh,
(23:32):
I like blonde guys who work in you know, banking,
and you know, then David showed up, so it's hard.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
To know, Like I like slobs who live in their
parents' basement and probably smell disgusting every single moment of
the day. Like I can smell that man every episode.
I'm like, oh, oh.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
We know that.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
You know where Madison was going.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
She was going down to the basement layer given him
an h by the cagerator.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
No, that's really lame. He'd take anything because he wasn't
getting nice.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I know, we're not going to have much to say
about them, so I just want to get them out
of the way now so we can go back to
all the good, juicy stuff. Butl and Thomas, uh, you know,
had a very healthy conversation in the hot tub. There.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
That's the couple that's had sex.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I really liked them. I mean I didn't know if
I believe them. I was like, really met this person
seven weeks ago. Now you're talking about what you're going
to do about kids, you know. But and I think, like,
you know, it's a possibility that they would stay together.
But maybe they really had chemistry. But you know, you
all know you can have chemistry for three months and
then it's gone, you know. So but I thought as
(24:54):
as a reality couple and what they were supposed to
stand for, I like them. I think they seem nice.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Yeah, yeah, they are the most boring couple. But yes,
the healthiest couple.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
That's so funny, I wrote in my notes, I said,
everything is so drawn out, their conversations are so boring.
I don't care if they want kids or wait two years,
and then I said, where did you find all these
men who want to get married.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Chicago?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I mean, to be fair, Tom's also forty one. He's like,
all right, I'm ready now. I guess yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Well I will say this about Camille. I don't know
if you guys caught this, but Camille was the.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
One that encouraged that the conversation needed to come out
at the couple's retreat.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Do you guys catch which conversation she was encouraging? The
there goes bad?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
I know, Sorry, I'm trying trying to come back.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
She encouraged Matt what Michelle Oh to approach them at
the couple's retreat about.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Well, that's kind of maybe she she's the person who's
open to talking.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Maybe maybe she's like I feel like Camille secretly is
like I'm the boring one. Nobody pay attention to me.
But really she's just like stirring the pot in the background.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I think she was to get more camera time.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I also love how like her and Tom just fully
stay out of everything, because Tom at one point was like,
I'm too old for this bullshit, and I was like,
that's funny. And then after like all the dramas comes
you know, to an end, and like Alan's packing up,
Michelle's crying, all this other stuff, blah blah blah. Camille
just comes out of her bedroom's like, oh, what's going on?
(26:46):
What's happening? And I was like, bitch, she's just there
to watch the everything fall apart and be like, oh,
I was just sleeping and I'm gonna go back to bed.
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Icon it loved it. I know she has such an icon.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I love it, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
And I also like that Tom's not an idiot because
during the whole like who's the who's most likely to
cheat question during the game, he's like, oh, I just
I don't know, like I'm a bad liar. I was like, no,
you just didn't want to get caught up in the drama,
so you just said yourself. That's my thought. Because he's
(27:26):
like everybody else is like ragging on David and he's like, well, yeah,
I put down me because I'm a bad liar, like
I wouldn't do it, oh.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Right right yeah yeah yeah yeah, way to stay yeah yeah.
And also he got himself off the hook by saying
me only because I'm a bad liar, like I wouldn't lie,
which is like saying I'm a saint. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Goodness him and Camille. I love them.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Yeah, they're so great. Apparently sleeping they talked about an
after party because Camille is on app party.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Yeah yeah, but I just saw how she was like,
I think we're gonna have to You're gonna have to
talk to him. And I was like, thank you, Camille,
thank you set it up perfectly.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Also, before we get back to the drama, because there's
still a lot to talk about, I just want to
talk about Wan and his improvis o.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
God, when did.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
He sing in the bedroom?
Speaker 5 (28:30):
No? He wasn't around the fireplace the fire pit.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh no. He also didn't he take the guitar in
bed and sing something or am I just hoping that happened?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Who knows what? He was so fucked up in that
backyard playing my guitar. Were like he's like carl I
was like, oh, you are wracked.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Carla deserves an Academy Award for her performance around that campfire.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
But remember them doing anything around that. I really thought
Carlo was cute by the way.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
She's so cute, and she was like, bame, She's like
baby crush.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Chat babe, babe, you're fucking you're the next Bob Dylan, Like.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
What, oh my god, I got He's like, this song
makes me feel as safe as.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
That's so funny, that's brilliant.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I just love that they would just randomly cut back
to those two in the middle of the drama because
I'm like, these two are just like there to get
fucked up. They don't like, they're like, what's going on
doesn't evolve us? Great cool.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well, one thing I had to give the show credit for.
I thought for sure he was going to get behind
her like ghost and they were going to turn when
they were doing the Polly and they were going to
do a ghost thing. I was just waiting for it.
Oh thank god they did it. But I couldn't believe
that they didn't.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
You know, I don't know if you caught Carla's look
to the camera when he said let's work on your
second piece now. She just kind of gave a look
to the camera like what is like, what's happening here?
Speaker 5 (30:12):
You know?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
And he starts making all these innu windows like here,
let me let me make it a little bit deeper.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Is this too deep?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That okay? That that I thought he was clueless. Do
you think he was doing that on purpose? Because he
was it was so on the nose I thought, I thought,
I mean, I don't think he's too stupid to know
what he's saying. Maybe that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I feel like, I don't think he knew. I think
Carla knew because she was laughing and like her own,
But I don't think.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
He knew, That's what I thought.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I don't think he did either, because he was on
After Party and it was it kind of like dawned
on him on After Party that what he was saying.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Oh no, And I'm like, really, you.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Didn't know me During the clips, it's always fun to
watch the little answert of their face is when they
play those clips back.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I also so I typically don't watch After Party because
after five hours of an episode, I'm like, but when
they first welcomed their guests, I didn't realize there was
like a special guest. I was like, Oh, they have
Michelle and Madison on this episode.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
No, they're a pregnant astrologer. Yeah, they had both that
would have been like Jerry Springer.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
And they were next to each other.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
They're gonna be on the reunion episode together.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
So I think though I don't know why Michelle would
even care, because she wasn't interested. I mean by now
like now, it's just good television.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I think it's just for her. I think it's just
literally like she has to be right about it.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
One thing about the after party, when they run on
the astrologer, I was like, what the like she was
a social worker who was an astrologer. I was like, oh,
so is this child in danger? Let's check the stars.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
I mean, listen, a party is getting so out there
with the birth. I'm like, listen, we're in LA. That's
a that's a stretch for me. Holy smokes.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Yeah boy, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Okay, So let me just make sure we've got the
other couple so we can get back to the Michelle
and David saga. I think we got everything we need
to say about them out of the way. I mean,
they may creep in a little bit, but for the
most part, we have them out of the way.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Sure, well, except there was one thing. It has to
do with one.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
It has to do with the the Can we talk
about the who's most likely to.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought that Alan was gonna
say that one has a big dick.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yes, yes, he was saying that your poor like you
was saying something like your Mexican pool boy or something.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
It was so weird, so weird.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
He was like his you know, I'm like his what
you know?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
When they were all in a group.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Package, I don't know it was maybe it was just
a pool boy thing, but I was so confused what.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Pool boy?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Oh. I was like, I feel like that this is racist.
And then like yes to one and like on his
like confession cam and they were like, show us your
pool boy. And he's like I don't understand what that means.
And I was like, oh, like, it's twenty twenty five,
don't be racist.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
And then he unbuttoned his shirt, un buttton his shirt
and go, here's my pool boy.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
But that being said, Alan and One, I would watch
that Poorno already watched this so hard.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Oh my god, we.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Watched this so hard.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
But you would.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Question. There was one woman who was single. I assumed
that her would be husband left.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
We did talk about am.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
We didn't talk about who's most likely to swap partners who.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So he tried to serve her divorce papers at the
beginning of the couple's retreat, but he only had one
page of the four pages and she was like, no,
you can leave, I'll sign the full thing when you're up.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Did she? I mean they did, They just didn't get
on right away at first.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
They got a long.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Yeah he is real strange guy.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, yeah, Well.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Don't you think to agree to marry a stranger on
TV makes them all strange? Yes, because I don't think
they're getting much money. They're probably just getting said you
know or whatever.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
For sure the segmentimum, yeah, of course, and then yeah,
and probably not too many promotional deals except for one
in Carla clearly now right in the middle of the show,
like forget just aside, We're just gonna do it right smack.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Tab in the middle of the show.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
We have no shame left anymore, just shameless, ridiculous, egregious
plug right here. And that's probably it. And then they
get some Instagram followers, and then they're a flash in
the pan that everyone forgets about them.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
So I think that their whole live is ruined by
the show.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I don't even know that if they're getting that many
Instagram followers, because I tried to follow. I went to
go look up one right now to see if he
had like a post about ADT on his Instagram and
it's private.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
First off, oh well, good for him.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
So if he is getting like any advertisement requests, he's
probably not getting many or paid a lot because it's
not public. But he also has like less than three
thousand followers, so probably shut.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
It down for the well it's airing, I mean it's
gotta be.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, he might, I think, yeah, and did The producers
might have even asked him to because he doesn't seem shy,
So I don't know why you wouldn't make it private.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
You know, his flight time app Instagram account though very public.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
I thought you was gonna start playing on his app
and being like I see some people here.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
On this couple's retreat. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
So okay, So do we have anything else about any
of the other couples before we go right back to Madison,
Alan David Michelle the.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Couple the words latex play.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Latex play, adult.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
When did that happen?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
During likely to It was.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Alan's question, Yeah, who's into latex play? And everybody was like.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
What yeah, because nobody else knew what it was, but
Alan did.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Right Alan's like, well, you do this, and then the
like the outfit has this and blah blah blah, and
then he's like okay, never mind, and everybody's like okay,
oh my god, Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Now my opinion of Allan kind of changes because I
saw him not into latex play.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Oh see, like I'm more into it now. I'm like, okay, Alan,
call me.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
He just seems like he'd be so awkward at it.
Oh yeah, he doesn't like natural.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I feel like he's secretly just really freaky obvious, least
expect I'm sure he wants.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
To do adult latex play with a pool boy's.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Hearing now he called you want a pool boy and
then starts talking about late chex play.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
You're right, Yeah, you just discover that Allen's maybe a
little by.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Oh I don't know, maybe it seems a little uptight
to be by, but but maybe secretly gay.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
He's not ready yet. He's not ready to come out,
and once he comes out, he'll be like a lot
more you know, happy.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
He'll be into latex and leather.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Yes we can we.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Go now to the uh, the sort of situation that
MM and and one we're trying to contain after because
that scene was great too, by the way, and.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Then is a hero hero. I love her. She's like,
let's not drink and drive. Let's like, I understand that
you're upset, but like you can be upset, but let's
not also like, you know, be disrespectful. Let's not dis people.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
And don't destroy yourself.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Basically yes, And I was like, because she knows that
she kind of came up that way a little bit
when she had her melt down, and so she's also
trying to protect him.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, yeah, I thought she handled that really well. And
I thought wand was Wan high because I mean what
he was saying was really silly, like this is positive
and will be over in a minute.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
You know, they were all high.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
I mean they were all high and trash probably not
m M, but like like, oh my god, Alan and
so much Topo Chico in him. Oh dang, oh dang,
my friend, he did the whole I spent three though.
I mean I want to like type up that monologue
and perform it. And then you started talking about butterflies, butterflies, butterflies, butterfly.
(39:41):
I just love it when reality TV stars go into
like a straight up theatrical monologue in the Men Love
the episode.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
It was so good.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
What was the butterfly? What was the butterfly reference?
Speaker 6 (39:53):
I don't know, but I thought at one point he
was going to refence retainer out and throw it.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I was like, please God, the butterflies butterflies was referring
to love or something.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
You would be positive.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
I think they told me butterflies, butterflies, butterfly. I mean,
I don't know when you started talking about butterflies, I was,
I was.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
It sent me.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Oh my god. The editors of this episode deserve like
an Emmy because I was like the amount. I was like,
you were able to get a whole storyline when of
that conversation was just bleeped out.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Oh so many bleeps.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
And I was like, good job editing team ten out
of ten.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I thought, the playing how many bleeps? Because usually in
reality shows they seem to try to not I mean,
but even when they weren't mad, they were saying, you know,
ship and stuff like that, Oh s gotta bleep.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
No you don't, no, you no, you can curse them.
I mean, we talked about Latex play for crying out.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
They talked about it a lifetime.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Okay, right, this bleepoat Latex.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Are you into bleep play?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Oh that would be fine, if that would be more salacious.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Well, I feel like I feel like the producers had
a huge hand in a lot of this because when
when it all started off, when Michelle went into the kitchen,
Alan followed her in there, and I.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Was like, well, why would he Why would he follow
her into the kitchen? You know what?
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Didn't ask him to go with her? Though? At one
point did she.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
That first time? Yeah? I think she did. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I thought she was like, can we talk really quickly?
But maybe not because he knew.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
He needed to go cook. He needed to go.
Speaker 6 (41:40):
He's cooking the whole time, he's cooking food for everybody.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
I'm dead dad. It was so good.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
I can't when he said and I wrote down here
because I literally spit my tea out during that scene
in the kitchen when they're like talking, She's like, I
could be spiraling, Ellen, Alan, I could be spile, Like.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
What what do you have? Was this? Where's this reaction
coming from? Are you? Do you think it's true?
Speaker 6 (42:05):
And then he goes, I don't know, and he goes,
he goes, But if it's true, I'm gonna flip my shit,
I spin my tea out.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
It was so funny and great TV.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Oh you know.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Also we said this before, but it was truly sad, like.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
I know it.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
It was just like I was like, I can't believe
I went from like just you know, knocking the show
the whole time, and by the end of it, I
was like really affected and I thought about it for days.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Can I just say, there's something so funny.
Speaker 6 (42:37):
I was gonna send it to you guys on Reddit,
but it was like a comments threat, and so like
all the people caught like being like I knew that
Madison was with David backh and blah blah blah blah blah,
and they're like screen grabbing, like you know after Party
where she's turned towards him instead of the host, which
she's like on the other side of her.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
And then somebody else.
Speaker 6 (42:58):
Said I knew it when David got him Visi Ligne
was a dead giveaway line on After Party, I think
at one point, and they were like, see, this is
why I have to watch the after party sky because
all the all the clues come together in the after party.
And then somebody wrote down underneath that girl loves a
(43:22):
discount code.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
It was so funny.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
I had to go on to Reddit so that I
could watch the after party because my DVR doesn't doesn't
record it anymore. You can't watch it on the website,
on the Lifetime website, and.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
So I had to. I had.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
I was like, Okay, somebody's got this episode. So there
was a Reddit where they post the link to the episode.
So that's how I got to see it. And I
was like, oh, I'm so glad I got to see it.
It was so much Yeah, that's where all the little
blues come together.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
But this so this is so when David went and
talked to Alan, you know, he's like, he's like, we
have a situation. But Alan was he was pett and
he was like, no, fuck her and fuck you.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
I just love how he's like just fully cut, staved
off and it's like, I don't fucking care, man, I
don't want to hear it. Just fucking say it. I
don't care. I'm done.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
So that realistic, you know, because I remember when my
friend and you know, I would try to talk to me.
I'm like, no, just go ahead, and you know, I
didn't say I didn't even say fuck you. I was
just like, just leave, go away.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
You're a better person than me. Jenny, I wanted to
burn my entire house to the ground.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Oh no, I wanted to do that, and I and
I said horrible things to my husband. I was a banshee.
But it's been a long time.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Love your therapy, everybody.
Speaker 6 (45:00):
That's how long it takes, it's true to goe over
something like this. I wonder how long it takes when
you also add humiliation on national television to.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
All of it.
Speaker 6 (45:11):
Really, yeah, seven weeks of sixteen hour days of filming.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah, but you know what, I bet Adam gets some
girls will be interested in him.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
Now, Yes, yeah, that's true, very true, you know.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
And oh the other thing that Michelle picked up on,
which which obviously I don't know why they even thought
that this was because Michelle or Madison had said, yeah,
you know, we text each other, you know, to go
to the gym or whatever. And then when she got
her phone, now there's no text messages, and he's like,
but you said that you text each other to go
to the gym, but now there's no text messages.
Speaker 6 (45:46):
But what she said an after party too was the
thing that was so great. She types in his name
and that literally every reference.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
To him in all of her phone texts to other
people came up.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
And then she's like, oh.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
Gat up potention that well.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
And also when she's like, do you guys message each
other on social media? And she's like no, and then
she goes like onto Instagram and she's like, well, his
name's the first one to pop up.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Oh I forgot. Oh you know. I wonder if they
egged her on to do that though, because if she
don't like the guy, I mean, it was great what
she did. I thought, like the detective work was great,
and she was she was spot on, like when everybody oh,
and then she noticed that Madison was the one like, well,
let's not talk about this, you know, she said she
referred to a prior episode. But I'm just wondering if
(46:35):
the producer has egged around, because if she truly didn't
like the guy and was repulsed by him, why would
she care.
Speaker 6 (46:40):
Listen, if she wasn't being fed information by producers and
she did all that herself. What she may have done,
she is a great detective and I think she should
figure out who killed John Benet Ramsey had her on
the case.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Listen, she could find Jimmy Hoffa okay, and.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
She probably doesn't give a shit about Jimmy how know
who he is, but she'd go do it just to find.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
Out exactly exactly. Do we have anything else to say
about any of this? I think we pretty much we
said it right, I think we yeah, yeah, okay, all right,
Well so this was great.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
It's so cathartic to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
I know.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
So now we come to the part of the show
where we get our guest predictions about these couples. So,
since this is the first time Ginny ever watched the show,
I'm just going to give a little rundown about how
it works. So there are experts and they match these couples.
These couples meet for the very first time at the
(47:44):
altar and they get married. They have eight weeks to
decide whether or not I want they want to stay
married or get a divorce. So at the end of
the eight weeks, they go in front of the experts
and they say yes, I want to stay married, or
know I want to get a divorce, And if one
says yes and the other says no, they get a divorce.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
So with that being said, do you think.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
That Michelle and David will say yes or no on
decision day.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I think they'll say yes because the producers will say
it's a better television.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Okay, all right, how about Madison and Allen?
Speaker 2 (48:23):
But how long does the show go on? I mean,
how many more episodes are there?
Speaker 5 (48:27):
Not that manymore?
Speaker 4 (48:28):
There's not that many because normally by now, because it's
only been on what we've been doing this what like
four months? And this is month four and normally a
season is like six months long.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Oh wow, this going to be that long's it's eight
weeks in real time, but they drag it out for
eight months?
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 5 (48:49):
How many more episodes? Like three or four?
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Two? There can't be.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Is this the first season or have they done this before?
Speaker 1 (48:56):
This is season eighteen?
Speaker 3 (48:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Wow, I'm really out of it.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
No, it's great, Okay, Madis, I'm glad you have never
seen it, Madis Allen?
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Madison and Allen No, okay, Uh, Carla and Juan.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
I think they'll try for a little longer, unless they're
both faking it for the TV. But I don't know.
I think they might just do it for a little
while and if it split.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
And Camille and Thomas I think they will try. Yeah,
Okay and m m Andy Katie, they're already done.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
So MM and Allen should get together.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
Yeah, maybe as they both.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Got dumped kind of yeah, or michellon Allen.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (49:38):
Well okay, Ginny, I have one more question for you,
and it's pretty important.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
Will you continue to watch Married at First Sight?
Speaker 2 (49:46):
No, but I'm gonna go back and watch the after
party about that because I did start to watch it. No,
I will watch like after this because I've got kind
of excited talking about it. But yeah, it takes a
lot to make me watch something. You know, in many episodes.
Speaker 5 (50:02):
Yeah, and they're not always that's good, but.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
This, Yeah, I was so happy that it was a
good one. I was so happy that I'd actually took
me through all these emotions, like I did not expect
to feel anything at the end, as like what a
bunch of idiots, And then by the end I was
I still think about Alan, how hurtful that was.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
You did a good job with this one.
Speaker 4 (50:26):
Yeah, this was. This was a great episode. You had
a good one. So thanks again to our guest Jenny Sykes.
Speaker 5 (50:33):
J love you.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
Yes, do you have any shows coming up? So this
episode will come out on Wednesday, So anything after Wednesday, well, I.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Don't have my calendar in front of me. I just
know March something, March, oh, uh, March.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
I better not plug it because I don't know my dates.
But I'm I perform all over La La.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
So follow her on Instagram and you'll find out where
she's going to summer.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Do you have anything to plug?
Speaker 6 (51:02):
Yes, I have a stand up comedy class I'm teaching
in March Thursdays in March, and it's uh, it's enrolling now.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
Yay, that's awesome, Jenny, that's awesome. I know that Skyler
has the what's it called dang It?
Speaker 1 (51:21):
What's the name of huh rock card Tits.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
Yes, rock Hard Tits show that's coming up, and I
don't know the dates, but I'll put it in the notes.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
And I have a Kickstarter campaign for my movie Harold Washington.
We want Harold about Harold Washington, so we're trying to
raise some money for that.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
I got a date. I got a date, so I
don't sound like a total loser. Okay, March eighth, I'm
at Flappers at seven.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Yayh okay, awesome, great, great.
Speaker 5 (51:51):
Everyone should go see Jenny.
Speaker 4 (51:53):
She's yes, very funny, very funny once again, Jenny side.
Speaker 5 (51:59):
Kay, that was fun.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
This was a lot of fun. Yay
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