April 9, 2025 • 37 mins
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Experience with a doppelganger by Ivan X-29 To this day, this
story has puzzled me to no end. I should say from the very
beginning that I was really young, but I remember this
incident vividly because of how scared I felt.
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And my parents have confirmed some aspects of this story.
So some background. Born and raised in Miami to
Honduran parents. So being Hispanic, spiritualism
and religion sort of walk hand in hand for some.
I grew up in an apartment building with a huge front yard.
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My mother would let me play outside with our front door open
because she could easily keep aneye on me, and the front yard
was completely fenced so I couldn't wander into the street.
So on this particular day, I'm playing outside like any other
normal day and I remember that my mom is inside cooking like
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always. Our front door is open and I
know for sure that my mom is inside, but that's when I hear
it. Someone is calling out to me.
I look around and I don't see anyone, so I continue to play.
But then I hear it again, someone trying to get my
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attention. I look towards the end of our
front yard and behind the fence I see my mom.
She's standing there waving and smiling at me, trying to get me
to go to her. I start laughing and running
towards her because here I am thinking we were playing a game
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as I'm closer to this person. Something doesn't feel right,
like something is telling me notto trust this person.
But I'm torn because I'm lookingstraight at my mother.
It's her voice, her face, even the distinct white streak of
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hair my mom has that contrasts her jet black hair.
But still, something doesn't feel right.
I asked her what she's doing on the other side of the fence, and
she tells me that we have to go,that I need to follow her now.
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She starts to walk towards the fence door, and I begin to
follow her. Almost entranced, she begins to
tell me how much she loves me and that we need to leave
together. As we get closer to the fence
door, she starts to tell me thatI have to open it and walk out
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to be with her. I don't know what overcame me
but I said no. This upset my mom and her
demeanor changed. She starts to yell that I had to
do it, that we needed to be together and now this scares me
and I began to cry and then I hear it.
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My mom's voice coming from my house asking where I am.
I run towards my house bawling in hysterics.
I see my real mother and I hug her and I tell her what
happened. I tell her about the lady that
looked like her trying to get meto leave and I just remember my
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mom hugging me and telling me that it was just in my
imagination. Years later, this incident comes
up in a conversation I'm having with my parents, and my mom is
completely amazed that I remembered all of it so vividly.
She also adds that weird things used to happen in that building,
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and that she suspects that the only reason that thing couldn't
get into the property was because of an old Cuban lady
that lived next to us. You see, it turns out that she
practiced Santeria and she was constantly blessing the grounds.
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So honestly, shout out to that Lady.
Here's where things take a very interesting turn.
While me and my mom are reminiscing about what happened,
my father is completely silent and when we finished, he's in
shock. He didn't know about this
happening to me and he proceeds to tell us that when he was a
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child in Honduras, the same thing happened to him.
A woman that looked like my grandmother would sometimes go
by his house and tell him that they needed to leave to be
together. My father is your typical male,
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everything by the book, no nonsense, very skeptical about
all of this stuff. But at that moment, I saw fear
in him. When you're no nonsense skeptic
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dad goes pale hearing a story from your childhood, it's not
good. It's never good, is it?
That's always, I agree with you.That's always like the most
chilling point. Like if you remember something
from your childhood that's scary.
Like, OK, we all had terrifying childhoods.
I feel like. I feel like if you didn't have
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some sort of mildly terrifying thing that happened to you in
childhood, you have blocked it out of your memory or you are an
alien or like an Android and youaren't aware because children,
childhood is terrifying. OK, period.
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Stop. Like end of end of sentence.
Childhood is terrifying. So, you know, like if your mom
is kind of freaked out by something, I feel like that's
fair. I feel like, you know, without
getting into gender norms and broad generalizations or
generalizations about Broads AO without getting too much into
that, I will say I think typically you do find mothers
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are a little bit more open, you know, to the woo woo than Dad's,
right? I think that is like a
stereotype. Dad's no nonsense, you know, Oh,
go back to sleep, right. Like in the last episode where
you've got the partner who's being woken up saying, I think I
hear someone in the house and hegoes, oh, shut up, go back to
sleep. I'm tired.
Grumble, grumble. So when your dad hears a scary
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story that he didn't hear about from your childhood and is only
hearing about now and he it looks like he just saw a ghost,
like that's going to ruin your day hearing whatever it is that
he has to say. Kind of in like a if you if you
listen to this, if you listen tothis show, it's going to ruin
your day in the best way, but still kind of traumatizing to
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hear that that is so scary. Like it's first of all, pause
the whole the whole story is scary.
But then hearing that your dad experienced the same thing in
his childhood in a different country in Honduras that's so
far away from Miami. Like in terms of spirits, like,
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did it, is this, is this the same spirit?
Did it follow the family? Just there's so many questions.
But first of all, what is this? Is it a doppelganger?
I know we've all heard that wordbefore.
I've even talked about them on the show.
But there's more than one kind of doppelganger.
They're not all German, so doppelganger the phrase is a
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borrow word from German. And I know I love talking about
umlauts. Like there should be an umlaut
on this word. Well there is on the word
doppelganger over the AI don't fully understand the purpose of
an umlaut. I just like the aesthetic of
them. So the word in German
doppelganger means double goer and the term itself is coined in
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the late 18th century. However, the concept of a
doppelganger, the concept of seeing someone who looks exactly
like someone else but isn't themand in general is also kind of a
bad vibe that goes back thousands of years all the way
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back to ancient Egypt where they've got the Ka, which is
like, this is how it's described, an invisible twin
spirit that mirrored the physical body.
I don't fully track it, but you can tell that this goes back
really far because remember around zero ad.
Now listen, this is not, these are not, these are not solid
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numbers. I'm not trying to get derailed
here. I'm just saying this is kind of
how I remember where things in history happened.
Around 0AD you had Cleopatra, right?
And then around like over 2000 years before that, the ancient
pyramids were built and they weren't ancient at the time.
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Anyway, all to say, that goes back really far.
OK, so humans have had the concept of a doppelganger just
using different terms forever. And it also crosses cultures.
You've got mentions of them obviously in Egypt.
You've got them in European, allover Europe, Africa, all over
Africa. We've even talked about
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specifically the Norse Vadoga ina previous episode, 1 of the
early episodes I talked about that type of doppelganger
specifically, which is one of the non malicious doppelgangers
that is someone that appears, well, it's a doppelganger that
appears kind of before the real person shows up.
So you think you hear someone arrive home, you hear all of the
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sounds they normally make. You hear the door shut and then
you're like hey, hello. And they're not home.
And then 20 minutes later they come home and make the exact
same sounds. But that was the Vadoga arriving
before they did anyway. Then you've also like, you've
got all these different kinds. And most of them, though, are
generally, most doppelgangers, are generally harbingers of
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death or doom. They're not good.
I've also read, you know, of course, you know how
spiritualism and and the rule of3 is really big, right?
So if you see a doppelganger 3 times, it means you or someone
else is going to die. That's bad news.
Okay, but listen, does that kind, does that sound like the
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story that we just heard? Because to me, it doesn't to me,
the concept of a doppelganger isobviously like, yes, that's in
this story because I even saw his mom, Ivan, you saw your mom
complete with that like white streak of, of hair.
You know, you know, it was her. You know what your mom looks
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like. Even when you're a kid, you, you
know what your mom looks like. So yes, that aspect is kind of
doppelgangery. However, because this story
happened in Miami, FL to an Andre and family and especially
in Miami where you've got 70% ofthe city is Latino and so I
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don't think we should be lookingat German concepts of
doppelgangers. You know, I feel like let's look
at what's going on in South America with regards to
doppelgangers and of course they're not called doppelgangers
there because that's a German word, although maybe in
Argentina. OK, we're not going to get into
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it. Let's stay focused.
So y'all, my jaw dropped when I did just a little bit of
research into this dropped. So I ran across something called
La Tunda who is a shape shiftingentity who resembles a human
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woman that lures people into forests and keeps them there.
OK Ding Ding Ding. I'm at this point I'm reading
this entry and I'm like, this isit.
But hold on because because get a load of this.
La Tunda is described as being capable of changing its shape to
appear in the form of a loved one, such as in the likeness of
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a child's mother to lure its victims into the forest and feed
them with shrimp. OK, well, hold on.
We're going to. Let's pause because holy crap.
That's exactly what happened. I don't know if there was shrimp
involved. OK, so I shouldn't have read
that far. I should have paused for
dramatic effect after a child's mother, because that's crazy.
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The La Tunda can shape shift into the likeness of a child's
mother to lure its victims. That's crazy, like jaw on the
floor like that's her, that's our girl.
That's exactly who Ivan saw is ala Tunda.
I guess I would say listen, it also just says in English la
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Tunda. So we're just going to roll with
it. So la Tunda apparently though
keep this in mind. Her shape shifting abilities are
not perfect, so you may think, what is the nose different?
No, no, no La Tunda. La Tunda has a wooden lake which
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is in the shape of a moneal, which is a wooden kitchen
utensil used to stir hot drinks such as chocolate or agua
panella. OK, that's really, that's really
specific and strange, but apparently Latunda wants to hide
that. And so it, you know, wants to
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make sure that you can't see It's it's it's wooden spoon
like. But here's the thing.
This is what killed me. When Ivan saw his mom, it was on
the other side of a fence. Bro.
She came down in a bubble dog. Like she was on the other side
of a fence. And so presumably the fence
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would at least partially obscureher legs.
Isn't that crazy? That's crazy.
Oh my God. Like the only thing that's not
100% exact to the concept of la tunda is the shrimp.
Like Ivan, let me know. Ivan, send me Adm let me know if
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there was shrimp involved. Like did she promise you shrimp?
Did she didn't try to entice youwith shrimp, Although I guess
it's possible that like once shegets you into the forest at that
point, that's when she's feedingyou shrimp.
And supposedly the concept of the reason she's feeding you
shrimp is to keep you docile. I don't know is that is that is
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shrimp known for making people tussle?
I and also like I'm saying, docile and I'm like, is it
docile? Well, e-mail me at
madamstrangeways@gmail.com. Let me know how you how you
pronounce that word. But also I'm going to just be a
12 year old boy for a second because it specifies that the
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shrimp is specifically referred to as camarones pinedos.
I don't know if I pronounce thatright.
And I was like, what does that mean?
Like I just kind of want to knowwhat kind of shrimp that is.
So I plug it into Google Translate, which is way better
than it used to be. But apparently, like La Tunda
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with its shape shifting ability,it is also imperfect because why
did I put in Camorones Pinedos and it said that the English
translation is penis shrimp. Penis shrimp.
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Yep, That's not the translation.It's actually referring to like
penne de like it's Latin, like it's a type of it's like tiger
prawns. It's like the family of shrimp
that involves tiger prawns. So I don't know why it
translated, but it's just not what I was expecting.
So that's not that's that has nothing to do with it.
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It's just shrimp or prawns. So honestly this sounds like a
pretty good time. I don't know why she needs to
lure you to the forest. She could just say like with the
price of groceries, shrimp is a luxury item at this point.
Especially prawns like tiger prawns.
You don't need to lure anyone. You just need to say free prawns
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in the forest and come on. I'm there, I'm there.
Well, you know what? BYOCSI will bring my own
cocktail sauce and lemons. I'm there.
I don't think it sounds like a very bad time.
Oh, except that the reason that she's luring you and the reason
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that she is wanting to keep you docile question mark, I think is
to suck your blood and devour you whole.
So that doesn't sound like a good time.
You know, maybe she's feeding you shrimp because she wants you
to be tasty and and well, I don't think it's very fattening.
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I think it's got a lot of salt. That's what it is.
She's trying to flavor you from the inside.
You eat a lot of shrimp. It's a very rich food.
OK, OK, I'm following. I can't blame her.
So that's, that's the, that's LaTunda.
So an entity who shape shifts into loved ones, potentially
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children's mothers, to lure its victims into the forest to feed
them shrimp and then devour themand suck their blood.
God forbid a woman has hobbies. I don't see the problem.
You know, what is it? What is it?
Ebenezer says. And decrease the surplus
population because also, by the way, I should have mentioned
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that in some versions of Latunda, it specifically only
appears to male loggers or hunters.
And it's like luring them away from a work site or, you know,
from their hunting grounds and it's going to eat them.
So, you know, all right, there'scome on, she's branching out.
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So related to Latunda, I don't think this is it, but I'm going
to share it because it's interesting.
There's also Lepatosola, which translates, I think, to single
leg. So like, what is it?
Hold on. Why are there all of these
supernatural female entities that either have one leg or they
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have a wooden leg? What is it with the legs?
It's very confusing. So the patasola, which I don't
think this is it because it doesnot say that it appears in the
form of like a mom. Well, hold on.
Here's what it does say is that the patasola appears in the form
of a beauty. This is this is Wikipedia.
The patasola appears in the formof a beautiful, seductive woman,
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often in the likeness of a loved1.
So hold on, hold on, she's trying to lure men away from
his, lure men away from their companions deep into the jungle,
where of course she will then reveal her true hideous
appearance as A1 legged creaturewith a ferocious vampire like
lust for human flesh and blood. What is this Rob Zombie?
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Who is this irresistible creature who has an insatiable
love for the dead? But let's go back to how it says
the patasola appears in the formof a beautiful, seductive woman,
often in the likeness of a lovedone.
What are y'all doing? Don't do that.
I I just don't know that there should be a comma like the
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patasola appears in the form of a beautiful, seductive woman
comma in the likeness of a lovedone.
No, stop the I there shouldn't be there shouldn't be the same
thought. It's either like a beautiful,
seductive woman. Maybe, maybe or maybe we need an
or there or the like miss of a loved 1.
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I don't I don't love it. I don't love that.
But not getting let's not get hung up on it.
Here's the thing. So the Pedisola's most notable
feature from which her name derives is her one leg, which by
the way, is not just a normal leg.
It at the instead of a foot, shehas a cleaved bovine like hoof.
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OK. Oh, OK.
Why? But also, she's very quick and
she can get around in the forestreally easily.
But this is obviously the Petasola is not what we're
dealing with here. OK, Like if, if we had to pin
this on some sort of entity, it would have to be La Tunda,
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right? Come on.
So not only did Ivan encounter La Tunda, but Ivan's dad, we're
going to call him Ivan senior. Ivan senior also experienced La
Tunda in Honduras. Now, OK, La Tunda is apparently
specific to Colombia and Ecuador, but I mean, like, that
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doesn't mean anything, you know?Like what?
So she can't take a vacation. She can't do an eat, pray, love
kind of situation. Like what?
Why? Why not?
She's a hard working. She's a hard, she's a hard
working woman out here. You know, come on.
She's just trying to keep thingsfresh.
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So maybe she takes a little tripover to Honduras and then meet
your dad. And then is it the same La
Tunda? Is it the same one that follows
you to Miami and tries to get in?
That's creepy. Like it's, it's kind of, I don't
know. What's scarier is that there's
enough of these that you've encountered 2 separate ones or
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that it's one that's like a haunting your family.
And then Ivan, if you ever have a child, you better keep an eye
on that kid. You got to tell that kid this
story. Go ahead, tell them from an
early age, if you see someone who looks like your mom, it's
probably not your mom. How do you how do you prepare
them for this without traumatizing them?
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So I don't know, let's think about it.
There's got to be, there's got to be some.
I guess you just tell the story.I guess that's the point of
telling these stories, right? It's to keep people in line.
So I don't know. We got to figure out how to warn
your future children should you ever choose to have children.
Because doesn't sound good. Doesn't sound like a fun time.
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Now your neighbor, the one that was from Cuba who practiced
Santeria? Now, if you know me, if you've
been here for a previous episode, you probably know that
I have a problem with having to sing song lyrics as soon as I
hear a word that reminds me of asong, even if it's not actually
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the word from the song. So let me tell you, ever since
reading this story out loud and then having to revisit the story
I have had, I don't practice Santeria.
I ain't got no crystal ball, butI do have a crystal ball because
that's my whole thing is that I use a crystal ball in order to
see to the mysteries of the ether and beyond the veil.
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So I guess it doesn't really fit, but it's been in my head,
so I don't practice Santeria. Now, if you're curious, what is
Santeria? So Santeria is incredibly
complex and there's a lot of stuff, a lot of moving parts.
I am not an expert, however, I believe it's incredibly
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important to acknowledge Santeria's rich history and
cultural significance, especially because it is often
misunderstood and also kind of villainized as well.
That's a conversation for another day.
However, it is still in practice, It's a living
tradition and it has deep spiritual roots that have
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evolved over many centuries leading back all all the way.
OK, I'm getting ahead of myself.The point is, I I am not an
expert. However, I would be remiss not
including a little bit of background on Santeria.
So the Cuban neighbor in this story that Ivan told the Cuban
neighbor that was practicing Santeria and is the reason why
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Ivan's mom thinks that they wereprotected because of the
protective spells that she was doing.
Santeria, which is otherwise known as the Way of the Saints,
is an Afro Caribbean religion that developed in Cuba, blending
Yoruba spiritual traditions fromWest Africa with Catholicism.
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Oh, OK, well, but hold on, you may be wondering, where are we
talking about African African spiritual traditions if we're in
Cuba? Well, boy, if I got some bad
news for you. So, OK, this is what I'm saying.
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This is difficult to just to just scratch the surface of OK,
1492, this is OK. I'm going to rein it in.
We're going to stick to bullet points here.
OK, Columbus found Cuba. Spanish settlers went to Cuba,
Spanish settlers established sugar plantations which required
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significant labor, and oops, theSpaniards accidentally decimated
the population of indigenous people of Cuba with their
diseases, with their Spanish diseases that they brought from
Barcelona to Cuba. So not great.
They needed more labor and they certainly weren't going to do it
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themselves. So instead they enslaved W
Africans specifically via chattel slavery.
Put them on ships, brought them against their will to to Cuba to
work on the plantations. So that is how Yoruba spiritual
beliefs from West Africa specifically mixed with the
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Super super Catholic Spaniards beliefs of, you know,
Catholicism. So Catholicism plus Yoruba
spiritual practices equals Santeria.
Now, we may never know what the Cuban neighbor did specifically
to protect the area that they lived.
However, here's some you might say Santeria 101 tips.
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So you can use Cascadia, which is just powdered egg shell.
So literally egg shell that you dry either like in a low oven or
you know, whatever. And then you actually grind it
into a powder. So you can use that powder to
draw sacred symbols like on the floor or around doorways, or you
can even sprinkle it around corners or around entrances,
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like for instance, around a fence, just as a thought.
Of course, there's also prayers that they're making to the
Saints and the orishas. Of course, it could just be
that. And then my favorite is Florida
Water, which is not water from atap in Florida, but it's
actually, it's a, I guess you could describe it as like a
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spiritual Cologne, like a cleansing spiritual Cologne.
It's made-up of Bergamo or bergamot, you know, I guess
whatever floats your boat. Lavender, lemon, clove,
cinnamon, neroli, Jasmine, Musk,alcohol and rose water.
You can add some Florida Water to your like mop mix when you're
mopping and that's supposed to also cleanse the house, cleanse
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the area. You can also sprinkle it just
around the corners and around entrances and such, just like
the Cascadia, just like the eggshell.
So lots of things that the neighbor could have done as a
protection in order to keep thatdoppelganger slash, la tundra
slash, maybe just a kidnapper atBay.
I know that typically I do like to try to explain from a more
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naturalistic standpoint, you know, a more mundane standpoint.
What is it that happened? How can we explain it in a way
that's not as traumatic and terrorizing?
And you know, like, how can we, how can we do that?
Is there a way that we can explain this?
And normally I would say, yes, you know, Ivan was a child, he
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misremembered or he this is a dream that he's confusing with
reality because I've had that happen before.
Even as an adult. I've told you guys I've really
mundane dreams and sometimes I have difficulty remembering if
it was a dream or if it was realor not.
Like when I forget that I already bought bread because or
I forget I didn't buy bread because I dreamt that I bought
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bread but I didn't buy bread. I feel like this is do you wear
vigs like buy bread? Do you wear vigs?
Do you buy bread? In my dreams I do in my dreams I
do buy bread and then I forget to buy bread at the store.
So could it have been that it was a dream and that over time,
like I have mentioned most recently in the Perrin family
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haunting an episode about The Conjuring one, I go into detail
about memory and how memory is so fallible.
And every single time we access a memory and we remember a
memory, our brains are overwriting the memory it's
saving as, except now it's been altered a little bit just by the
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fact that we've remembered it. So I feel like, you know, there
could be an explanation there that, like, over time or maybe
it was a scary movie that Ivan saw as a kid and then
misremembered as being real. OK, Yeah.
But then how do you explain Dad?How do you explain Ivan Senior,
who had the exact same thing happened to him and his
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childhood where the same thing happened.
A woman who looked like Ivan Senior's mom tried to get her to
leave with him. How that's crazy.
Like, I mean, I guess here, here's here's how I could here's
how else I could say maybe Ivan Junior heard that story being
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told at some point and kind of remembered it and then thought
it was his own story. Maybe, maybe.
But it doesn't sound like the dad shares that story.
In fact, the dad may have never shared that story with anyone
because if I know anything aboutdads with repressed emotions and
you know, the slight emotional Constipation, let's just say if
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I know anything about that, and I do, if that's not clear, I bet
dad never talked about that before.
And so Ivan would have never heard that story in the 1st
place. So here's what I'm here's what
I'm going to say. It's mysterious.
That is mysterious. I truly don't know how to
explain it in a way that doesn'tinvolve jumping to a bunch of
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other conclusions. Or it was La Tunda following
your family over the years. And like I said, you better
watch out for your future kids, keep them aware, and maybe,
maybe look into Santeria. Maybe, maybe do a little bit of
dabbling in Santeria just a little bit, just to be safe.
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According to Javier Ocampo Lopez, when pleased, the
patasola climbs to the top of a tree or mountain and sings the
following song, sung to the tuneof One hand in my pocket.
I'm more than a siren. I live alone in the world and no
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one can resist me, baby, becauseI'm Parasola on the road, at
home, on the mountain and the river and in the air and in the
clouds and all that exists is mine, mine, mine 'cause I got
one leg and 1 boopy and the other hand is luring men from
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Experience with a doppelganger by Ivan X-29 To this day, this
story has puzzled me to no end. I should say from the very
beginning that I was really young, but I remember this
incident vividly because of how scared I felt.
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And my parents have confirmed some aspects of this story.
So some background. Born and raised in Miami to
Honduran parents. So being Hispanic, spiritualism
and religion sort of walk hand in hand for some.
I grew up in an apartment building with a huge front yard.
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My mother would let me play outside with our front door open
because she could easily keep aneye on me, and the front yard
was completely fenced so I couldn't wander into the street.
So on this particular day, I'm playing outside like any other
normal day and I remember that my mom is inside cooking like
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always. Our front door is open and I
know for sure that my mom is inside, but that's when I hear
it. Someone is calling out to me.
I look around and I don't see anyone, so I continue to play.
But then I hear it again, someone trying to get my
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attention. I look towards the end of our
front yard and behind the fence I see my mom.
She's standing there waving and smiling at me, trying to get me
to go to her. I start laughing and running
towards her because here I am thinking we were playing a game
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as I'm closer to this person. Something doesn't feel right,
like something is telling me notto trust this person.
But I'm torn because I'm lookingstraight at my mother.
It's her voice, her face, even the distinct white streak of
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hair my mom has that contrasts her jet black hair.
But still, something doesn't feel right.
I asked her what she's doing on the other side of the fence, and
she tells me that we have to go,that I need to follow her now.
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She starts to walk towards the fence door, and I begin to
follow her. Almost entranced, she begins to
tell me how much she loves me and that we need to leave
together. As we get closer to the fence
door, she starts to tell me thatI have to open it and walk out
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to be with her. I don't know what overcame me
but I said no. This upset my mom and her
demeanor changed. She starts to yell that I had to
do it, that we needed to be together and now this scares me
and I began to cry and then I hear it.
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My mom's voice coming from my house asking where I am.
I run towards my house bawling in hysterics.
I see my real mother and I hug her and I tell her what
happened. I tell her about the lady that
looked like her trying to get meto leave and I just remember my
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mom hugging me and telling me that it was just in my
imagination. Years later, this incident comes
up in a conversation I'm having with my parents, and my mom is
completely amazed that I remembered all of it so vividly.
She also adds that weird things used to happen in that building,
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and that she suspects that the only reason that thing couldn't
get into the property was because of an old Cuban lady
that lived next to us. You see, it turns out that she
practiced Santeria and she was constantly blessing the grounds.
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So honestly, shout out to that Lady.
Here's where things take a very interesting turn.
While me and my mom are reminiscing about what happened,
my father is completely silent and when we finished, he's in
shock. He didn't know about this
happening to me and he proceeds to tell us that when he was a
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child in Honduras, the same thing happened to him.
A woman that looked like my grandmother would sometimes go
by his house and tell him that they needed to leave to be
together. My father is your typical male,
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everything by the book, no nonsense, very skeptical about
all of this stuff. But at that moment, I saw fear
in him. When you're no nonsense skeptic
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dad goes pale hearing a story from your childhood, it's not
good. It's never good, is it?
That's always, I agree with you.That's always like the most
chilling point. Like if you remember something
from your childhood that's scary.
Like, OK, we all had terrifying childhoods.
I feel like. I feel like if you didn't have
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some sort of mildly terrifying thing that happened to you in
childhood, you have blocked it out of your memory or you are an
alien or like an Android and youaren't aware because children,
childhood is terrifying. OK, period.
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Stop. Like end of end of sentence.
Childhood is terrifying. So, you know, like if your mom
is kind of freaked out by something, I feel like that's
fair. I feel like, you know, without
getting into gender norms and broad generalizations or
generalizations about Broads AO without getting too much into
that, I will say I think typically you do find mothers
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are a little bit more open, you know, to the woo woo than Dad's,
right? I think that is like a
stereotype. Dad's no nonsense, you know, Oh,
go back to sleep, right. Like in the last episode where
you've got the partner who's being woken up saying, I think I
hear someone in the house and hegoes, oh, shut up, go back to
sleep. I'm tired.
Grumble, grumble. So when your dad hears a scary
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story that he didn't hear about from your childhood and is only
hearing about now and he it looks like he just saw a ghost,
like that's going to ruin your day hearing whatever it is that
he has to say. Kind of in like a if you if you
listen to this, if you listen tothis show, it's going to ruin
your day in the best way, but still kind of traumatizing to
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hear that that is so scary. Like it's first of all, pause
the whole the whole story is scary.
But then hearing that your dad experienced the same thing in
his childhood in a different country in Honduras that's so
far away from Miami. Like in terms of spirits, like,
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did it, is this, is this the same spirit?
Did it follow the family? Just there's so many questions.
But first of all, what is this? Is it a doppelganger?
I know we've all heard that wordbefore.
I've even talked about them on the show.
But there's more than one kind of doppelganger.
They're not all German, so doppelganger the phrase is a
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borrow word from German. And I know I love talking about
umlauts. Like there should be an umlaut
on this word. Well there is on the word
doppelganger over the AI don't fully understand the purpose of
an umlaut. I just like the aesthetic of
them. So the word in German
doppelganger means double goer and the term itself is coined in
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the late 18th century. However, the concept of a
doppelganger, the concept of seeing someone who looks exactly
like someone else but isn't themand in general is also kind of a
bad vibe that goes back thousands of years all the way
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back to ancient Egypt where they've got the Ka, which is
like, this is how it's described, an invisible twin
spirit that mirrored the physical body.
I don't fully track it, but you can tell that this goes back
really far because remember around zero ad.
Now listen, this is not, these are not, these are not solid
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numbers. I'm not trying to get derailed
here. I'm just saying this is kind of
how I remember where things in history happened.
Around 0AD you had Cleopatra, right?
And then around like over 2000 years before that, the ancient
pyramids were built and they weren't ancient at the time.
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Anyway, all to say, that goes back really far.
OK, so humans have had the concept of a doppelganger just
using different terms forever. And it also crosses cultures.
You've got mentions of them obviously in Egypt.
You've got them in European, allover Europe, Africa, all over
Africa. We've even talked about
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specifically the Norse Vadoga ina previous episode, 1 of the
early episodes I talked about that type of doppelganger
specifically, which is one of the non malicious doppelgangers
that is someone that appears, well, it's a doppelganger that
appears kind of before the real person shows up.
So you think you hear someone arrive home, you hear all of the
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sounds they normally make. You hear the door shut and then
you're like hey, hello. And they're not home.
And then 20 minutes later they come home and make the exact
same sounds. But that was the Vadoga arriving
before they did anyway. Then you've also like, you've
got all these different kinds. And most of them, though, are
generally, most doppelgangers, are generally harbingers of
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death or doom. They're not good.
I've also read, you know, of course, you know how
spiritualism and and the rule of3 is really big, right?
So if you see a doppelganger 3 times, it means you or someone
else is going to die. That's bad news.
Okay, but listen, does that kind, does that sound like the
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story that we just heard? Because to me, it doesn't to me,
the concept of a doppelganger isobviously like, yes, that's in
this story because I even saw his mom, Ivan, you saw your mom
complete with that like white streak of, of hair.
You know, you know, it was her. You know what your mom looks
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like. Even when you're a kid, you, you
know what your mom looks like. So yes, that aspect is kind of
doppelgangery. However, because this story
happened in Miami, FL to an Andre and family and especially
in Miami where you've got 70% ofthe city is Latino and so I
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don't think we should be lookingat German concepts of
doppelgangers. You know, I feel like let's look
at what's going on in South America with regards to
doppelgangers and of course they're not called doppelgangers
there because that's a German word, although maybe in
Argentina. OK, we're not going to get into
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it. Let's stay focused.
So y'all, my jaw dropped when I did just a little bit of
research into this dropped. So I ran across something called
La Tunda who is a shape shiftingentity who resembles a human
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woman that lures people into forests and keeps them there.
OK Ding Ding Ding. I'm at this point I'm reading
this entry and I'm like, this isit.
But hold on because because get a load of this.
La Tunda is described as being capable of changing its shape to
appear in the form of a loved one, such as in the likeness of
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a child's mother to lure its victims into the forest and feed
them with shrimp. OK, well, hold on.
We're going to. Let's pause because holy crap.
That's exactly what happened. I don't know if there was shrimp
involved. OK, so I shouldn't have read
that far. I should have paused for
dramatic effect after a child's mother, because that's crazy.
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The La Tunda can shape shift into the likeness of a child's
mother to lure its victims. That's crazy, like jaw on the
floor like that's her, that's our girl.
That's exactly who Ivan saw is ala Tunda.
I guess I would say listen, it also just says in English la
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Tunda. So we're just going to roll with
it. So la Tunda apparently though
keep this in mind. Her shape shifting abilities are
not perfect, so you may think, what is the nose different?
No, no, no La Tunda. La Tunda has a wooden lake which
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is in the shape of a moneal, which is a wooden kitchen
utensil used to stir hot drinks such as chocolate or agua
panella. OK, that's really, that's really
specific and strange, but apparently Latunda wants to hide
that. And so it, you know, wants to
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make sure that you can't see It's it's it's wooden spoon
like. But here's the thing.
This is what killed me. When Ivan saw his mom, it was on
the other side of a fence. Bro.
She came down in a bubble dog. Like she was on the other side
of a fence. And so presumably the fence
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would at least partially obscureher legs.
Isn't that crazy? That's crazy.
Oh my God. Like the only thing that's not
100% exact to the concept of la tunda is the shrimp.
Like Ivan, let me know. Ivan, send me Adm let me know if
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there was shrimp involved. Like did she promise you shrimp?
Did she didn't try to entice youwith shrimp, Although I guess
it's possible that like once shegets you into the forest at that
point, that's when she's feedingyou shrimp.
And supposedly the concept of the reason she's feeding you
shrimp is to keep you docile. I don't know is that is that is
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shrimp known for making people tussle?
I and also like I'm saying, docile and I'm like, is it
docile? Well, e-mail me at
madamstrangeways@gmail.com. Let me know how you how you
pronounce that word. But also I'm going to just be a
12 year old boy for a second because it specifies that the
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shrimp is specifically referred to as camarones pinedos.
I don't know if I pronounce thatright.
And I was like, what does that mean?
Like I just kind of want to knowwhat kind of shrimp that is.
So I plug it into Google Translate, which is way better
than it used to be. But apparently, like La Tunda
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with its shape shifting ability,it is also imperfect because why
did I put in Camorones Pinedos and it said that the English
translation is penis shrimp. Penis shrimp.
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Yep, That's not the translation.It's actually referring to like
penne de like it's Latin, like it's a type of it's like tiger
prawns. It's like the family of shrimp
that involves tiger prawns. So I don't know why it
translated, but it's just not what I was expecting.
So that's not that's that has nothing to do with it.
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It's just shrimp or prawns. So honestly this sounds like a
pretty good time. I don't know why she needs to
lure you to the forest. She could just say like with the
price of groceries, shrimp is a luxury item at this point.
Especially prawns like tiger prawns.
You don't need to lure anyone. You just need to say free prawns
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in the forest and come on. I'm there, I'm there.
Well, you know what? BYOCSI will bring my own
cocktail sauce and lemons. I'm there.
I don't think it sounds like a very bad time.
Oh, except that the reason that she's luring you and the reason
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that she is wanting to keep you docile question mark, I think is
to suck your blood and devour you whole.
So that doesn't sound like a good time.
You know, maybe she's feeding you shrimp because she wants you
to be tasty and and well, I don't think it's very fattening.
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I think it's got a lot of salt. That's what it is.
She's trying to flavor you from the inside.
You eat a lot of shrimp. It's a very rich food.
OK, OK, I'm following. I can't blame her.
So that's, that's the, that's LaTunda.
So an entity who shape shifts into loved ones, potentially
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children's mothers, to lure its victims into the forest to feed
them shrimp and then devour themand suck their blood.
God forbid a woman has hobbies. I don't see the problem.
You know, what is it? What is it?
Ebenezer says. And decrease the surplus
population because also, by the way, I should have mentioned
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that in some versions of Latunda, it specifically only
appears to male loggers or hunters.
And it's like luring them away from a work site or, you know,
from their hunting grounds and it's going to eat them.
So, you know, all right, there'scome on, she's branching out.
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So related to Latunda, I don't think this is it, but I'm going
to share it because it's interesting.
There's also Lepatosola, which translates, I think, to single
leg. So like, what is it?
Hold on. Why are there all of these
supernatural female entities that either have one leg or they
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have a wooden leg? What is it with the legs?
It's very confusing. So the patasola, which I don't
think this is it because it doesnot say that it appears in the
form of like a mom. Well, hold on.
Here's what it does say is that the patasola appears in the form
of a beauty. This is this is Wikipedia.
The patasola appears in the formof a beautiful, seductive woman,
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often in the likeness of a loved1.
So hold on, hold on, she's trying to lure men away from
his, lure men away from their companions deep into the jungle,
where of course she will then reveal her true hideous
appearance as A1 legged creaturewith a ferocious vampire like
lust for human flesh and blood. What is this Rob Zombie?
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Who is this irresistible creature who has an insatiable
love for the dead? But let's go back to how it says
the patasola appears in the formof a beautiful, seductive woman,
often in the likeness of a lovedone.
What are y'all doing? Don't do that.
I I just don't know that there should be a comma like the
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patasola appears in the form of a beautiful, seductive woman
comma in the likeness of a lovedone.
No, stop the I there shouldn't be there shouldn't be the same
thought. It's either like a beautiful,
seductive woman. Maybe, maybe or maybe we need an
or there or the like miss of a loved 1.
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I don't I don't love it. I don't love that.
But not getting let's not get hung up on it.
Here's the thing. So the Pedisola's most notable
feature from which her name derives is her one leg, which by
the way, is not just a normal leg.
It at the instead of a foot, shehas a cleaved bovine like hoof.
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OK. Oh, OK.
Why? But also, she's very quick and
she can get around in the forestreally easily.
But this is obviously the Petasola is not what we're
dealing with here. OK, Like if, if we had to pin
this on some sort of entity, it would have to be La Tunda,
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right? Come on.
So not only did Ivan encounter La Tunda, but Ivan's dad, we're
going to call him Ivan senior. Ivan senior also experienced La
Tunda in Honduras. Now, OK, La Tunda is apparently
specific to Colombia and Ecuador, but I mean, like, that
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doesn't mean anything, you know?Like what?
So she can't take a vacation. She can't do an eat, pray, love
kind of situation. Like what?
Why? Why not?
She's a hard working. She's a hard, she's a hard
working woman out here. You know, come on.
She's just trying to keep thingsfresh.
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So maybe she takes a little tripover to Honduras and then meet
your dad. And then is it the same La
Tunda? Is it the same one that follows
you to Miami and tries to get in?
That's creepy. Like it's, it's kind of, I don't
know. What's scarier is that there's
enough of these that you've encountered 2 separate ones or
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that it's one that's like a haunting your family.
And then Ivan, if you ever have a child, you better keep an eye
on that kid. You got to tell that kid this
story. Go ahead, tell them from an
early age, if you see someone who looks like your mom, it's
probably not your mom. How do you how do you prepare
them for this without traumatizing them?
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So I don't know, let's think about it.
There's got to be, there's got to be some.
I guess you just tell the story.I guess that's the point of
telling these stories, right? It's to keep people in line.
So I don't know. We got to figure out how to warn
your future children should you ever choose to have children.
Because doesn't sound good. Doesn't sound like a fun time.
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Now your neighbor, the one that was from Cuba who practiced
Santeria? Now, if you know me, if you've
been here for a previous episode, you probably know that
I have a problem with having to sing song lyrics as soon as I
hear a word that reminds me of asong, even if it's not actually
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the word from the song. So let me tell you, ever since
reading this story out loud and then having to revisit the story
I have had, I don't practice Santeria.
I ain't got no crystal ball, butI do have a crystal ball because
that's my whole thing is that I use a crystal ball in order to
see to the mysteries of the ether and beyond the veil.
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So I guess it doesn't really fit, but it's been in my head,
so I don't practice Santeria. Now, if you're curious, what is
Santeria? So Santeria is incredibly
complex and there's a lot of stuff, a lot of moving parts.
I am not an expert, however, I believe it's incredibly
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important to acknowledge Santeria's rich history and
cultural significance, especially because it is often
misunderstood and also kind of villainized as well.
That's a conversation for another day.
However, it is still in practice, It's a living
tradition and it has deep spiritual roots that have
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evolved over many centuries leading back all all the way.
OK, I'm getting ahead of myself.The point is, I I am not an
expert. However, I would be remiss not
including a little bit of background on Santeria.
So the Cuban neighbor in this story that Ivan told the Cuban
neighbor that was practicing Santeria and is the reason why
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Ivan's mom thinks that they wereprotected because of the
protective spells that she was doing.
Santeria, which is otherwise known as the Way of the Saints,
is an Afro Caribbean religion that developed in Cuba, blending
Yoruba spiritual traditions fromWest Africa with Catholicism.
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Oh, OK, well, but hold on, you may be wondering, where are we
talking about African African spiritual traditions if we're in
Cuba? Well, boy, if I got some bad
news for you. So, OK, this is what I'm saying.
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This is difficult to just to just scratch the surface of OK,
1492, this is OK. I'm going to rein it in.
We're going to stick to bullet points here.
OK, Columbus found Cuba. Spanish settlers went to Cuba,
Spanish settlers established sugar plantations which required
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significant labor, and oops, theSpaniards accidentally decimated
the population of indigenous people of Cuba with their
diseases, with their Spanish diseases that they brought from
Barcelona to Cuba. So not great.
They needed more labor and they certainly weren't going to do it
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themselves. So instead they enslaved W
Africans specifically via chattel slavery.
Put them on ships, brought them against their will to to Cuba to
work on the plantations. So that is how Yoruba spiritual
beliefs from West Africa specifically mixed with the
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Super super Catholic Spaniards beliefs of, you know,
Catholicism. So Catholicism plus Yoruba
spiritual practices equals Santeria.
Now, we may never know what the Cuban neighbor did specifically
to protect the area that they lived.
However, here's some you might say Santeria 101 tips.
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So you can use Cascadia, which is just powdered egg shell.
So literally egg shell that you dry either like in a low oven or
you know, whatever. And then you actually grind it
into a powder. So you can use that powder to
draw sacred symbols like on the floor or around doorways, or you
can even sprinkle it around corners or around entrances,
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like for instance, around a fence, just as a thought.
Of course, there's also prayers that they're making to the
Saints and the orishas. Of course, it could just be
that. And then my favorite is Florida
Water, which is not water from atap in Florida, but it's
actually, it's a, I guess you could describe it as like a
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spiritual Cologne, like a cleansing spiritual Cologne.
It's made-up of Bergamo or bergamot, you know, I guess
whatever floats your boat. Lavender, lemon, clove,
cinnamon, neroli, Jasmine, Musk,alcohol and rose water.
You can add some Florida Water to your like mop mix when you're
mopping and that's supposed to also cleanse the house, cleanse
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the area. You can also sprinkle it just
around the corners and around entrances and such, just like
the Cascadia, just like the eggshell.
So lots of things that the neighbor could have done as a
protection in order to keep thatdoppelganger slash, la tundra
slash, maybe just a kidnapper atBay.
I know that typically I do like to try to explain from a more
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naturalistic standpoint, you know, a more mundane standpoint.
What is it that happened? How can we explain it in a way
that's not as traumatic and terrorizing?
And you know, like, how can we, how can we do that?
Is there a way that we can explain this?
And normally I would say, yes, you know, Ivan was a child, he
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misremembered or he this is a dream that he's confusing with
reality because I've had that happen before.
Even as an adult. I've told you guys I've really
mundane dreams and sometimes I have difficulty remembering if
it was a dream or if it was realor not.
Like when I forget that I already bought bread because or
I forget I didn't buy bread because I dreamt that I bought
(32:18):
bread but I didn't buy bread. I feel like this is do you wear
vigs like buy bread? Do you wear vigs?
Do you buy bread? In my dreams I do in my dreams I
do buy bread and then I forget to buy bread at the store.
So could it have been that it was a dream and that over time,
like I have mentioned most recently in the Perrin family
(32:39):
haunting an episode about The Conjuring one, I go into detail
about memory and how memory is so fallible.
And every single time we access a memory and we remember a
memory, our brains are overwriting the memory it's
saving as, except now it's been altered a little bit just by the
(33:01):
fact that we've remembered it. So I feel like, you know, there
could be an explanation there that, like, over time or maybe
it was a scary movie that Ivan saw as a kid and then
misremembered as being real. OK, Yeah.
But then how do you explain Dad?How do you explain Ivan Senior,
who had the exact same thing happened to him and his
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childhood where the same thing happened.
A woman who looked like Ivan Senior's mom tried to get her to
leave with him. How that's crazy.
Like, I mean, I guess here, here's here's how I could here's
how else I could say maybe Ivan Junior heard that story being
(33:44):
told at some point and kind of remembered it and then thought
it was his own story. Maybe, maybe.
But it doesn't sound like the dad shares that story.
In fact, the dad may have never shared that story with anyone
because if I know anything aboutdads with repressed emotions and
you know, the slight emotional Constipation, let's just say if
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I know anything about that, and I do, if that's not clear, I bet
dad never talked about that before.
And so Ivan would have never heard that story in the 1st
place. So here's what I'm here's what
I'm going to say. It's mysterious.
That is mysterious. I truly don't know how to
explain it in a way that doesn'tinvolve jumping to a bunch of
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other conclusions. Or it was La Tunda following
your family over the years. And like I said, you better
watch out for your future kids, keep them aware, and maybe,
maybe look into Santeria. Maybe, maybe do a little bit of
dabbling in Santeria just a little bit, just to be safe.
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Remember that you can feel afraid and not be in danger.
If you have a true strange storythat you'd like to hear read on
the show, go ahead and send it to me, Madam
strangeways@gmail.com or Madam strangeways.com.
And since word of mouth is so important for podcasts, if you
(35:22):
could, to me just one little weird, spooky, strange solid,
that would be amazing. And that would be telling your
friends about the show. I'd really appreciate it.
Madame Strangeways is produced and narrated by me.
Madame Strangeways theme music is by
marina.ryan@marinamakes.co. All stories are read with the
(35:48):
explicit permission from their original authors.
Thank you so much for listening.See you next time.
(36:20):
According to Javier Ocampo Lopez, when pleased, the
patasola climbs to the top of a tree or mountain and sings the
following song, sung to the tuneof One hand in my pocket.
I'm more than a siren. I live alone in the world and no
(36:40):
one can resist me, baby, becauseI'm Parasola on the road, at
home, on the mountain and the river and in the air and in the
clouds and all that exists is mine, mine, mine 'cause I got
one leg and 1 boopy and the other hand is luring men from
their hunting grounds.
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