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Welcome to Madam Strange Ways, where I, Madam Strange Ways, am
your guide beyond the veil, pastthe Twilight Zone, and smack dab
the middle of the strange and unusual.
Today I have two new true strange stories for you.
As always, solicited or not, usually not, I share my thoughts
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truly, where I will lull you to sleep with my dulcet tones.
And there's definitely not any sort of subconscious subliminal
messaging. Definitely not.
That would be weird. Anyway, on to the strange
stories here on Madam Strange Ways
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story #1 by Onomatopoeia Utopia.I graduated high school in 1998
and was dating a girl with all kinds of issues who I should not
have been seeing. My mother said if I stayed in a
relationship with her, I could not live at home.
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We lived in a small rural town and my girlfriend's home was
several miles away. I decided to live in my car,
Smart my no. While I figured things out.
I would park my car at the gate entrance to a field near her
home and sleep there at night walking through some woods and
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across the field. When I left her house, her two
dogs would follow me to the car and then go back home after I
was inside. Not far into my new setup.
One night as I approached my car, I swear I heard the beat of
drums. Not drum set drumming, but like
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tribal sounding drums. It was somewhat faint, but it
was distinct in the silence of the rural area.
It was then I recalled the stories I had heard in
elementary school of a supposedly satanic cult in the
area. They had some land at the end of
a dead end road about a mile north of where I was parked.
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I became instantly scared and climbed into my car quickly.
The back seat would fold down and I could fit halfway into the
trunk of the car. That's how I slept for the
several weeks I lived there. Every night I could hear the
drums. One night the dogs didn't leave
my car. Rather, I awoke to them growling
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at something bumping the underside of my vehicle as they
moved around beneath me. The final straw came one night
after getting into my car. As I sat in the driver's seat
preparing to climb into the back, I happened to make out a
silhouette against the horizon in the field I had just crossed.
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It was a human form made of shadow, silhouetted against the
less dark night sky. Thinking my girlfriend or her
father, who didn't know I was out there, followed me, I turned
on my headlights to verify who and discovered that nobody stood
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in the field. I had enough of that and drove
about 10 miles away to the parking lot of a rural church
and felt better sleeping there. Needless to say, that
relationship did not last and I moved on to other things not
long after that. Almost a year later, I became
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friends with an older lady who lived nearby.
I found out she happened to liveon the Dead End Road, where I
swore I heard the drum sounds coming from.
I asked her one time if she everhad any strange experiences or
any harassment from the colt at the end of the road.
She told me that the colt had been gone for about a decade at
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that time and they had left before her family even moved
onto the street. But she did have odd things
happening there. After first moving in, she said
that her three daughters would routinely see shadowy figures
moving outside between the treeson their property and also hear
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what she called Indian drums. She said this having no idea
what had happened to me. Once, she said her youngest
daughter, four years old at the time, was sitting by the stereo
speakers in the living room withher ear up to them.
Someone in the family asked her what she was doing and she said
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listening. They found it somewhat humorous
because the stereo wasn't on andasked her what she was listening
to. The young daughter looked at
them and replied, They say thereis justification in killing your
parents. I knew then that what I
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experienced almost a year beforewas not the cult that had long
ago moved away, but something far sinister that had remained
in the area. Onomatopoeia.
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Utopia. Wow, what a name.
First of all, so many vowels. Very vowly.
But second of all, ladies, ladies.
And you know what everybody thisis a perfect example of if he
wanted to, he would. If he wanted to, he would sleep
in his car and risk life and limb by a satanic cult and also
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shadow people. Come on, come on, Onomatopoeia
Utopia, you know you are settingan example.
The bar is high. The bar is set very high.
Now before we get to the kids being scary because kids are
scary. Before we get to the end, which
was very creepy, the the figure that you saw in the darkness in
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the field that disappeared when you turn your headlights on.
Of course, of course you drove 10 miles away, which is far.
Of course you drove far, far away to, to, to sleep somewhere
safe where there presumably wasn't shadow people lurking
around in the darkness, at leastthat you could see.
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I'm not, I'm, I'm not mad, but the relationship didn't last, if
only because you then didn't have to sleep in your car and,
and go through that anymore. But again, before we get to the
creepy kid, I want to take a moment because of course, I have
been doing more reading of my most recent favorite book, The
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Exorcist Effect by Joseph Laycock and Eric Harrelson,
which I have talked at length about in the Annabelle episode
and we'll continue to talk aboutin future episodes because like
I said, it is my new current favorite book.
So in the Satanic Panic chapter,which is definitely going to be
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a deep dive of mine at some point, but I don't know how many
chapters it's going to take. I don't know how many episodes
it'll take because there's so much to say.
But in the Satanic Panic chapterwhere they were talking
specifically about, you know, Satanic Panic has led to there
being a fear of these satanic colds.
So I'm actually going to read. I tried to, you know what?
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I just did a few takes and I'm not explaining it really well.
So I'm just going to read this quick excerpt from the book.
So it says, however, there is one significant variation when
analyzing fantasies of evil rituals.
And this concerns whether the religious other resides in the
country or in the city. The fantasy of the country cult
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invokes a fear of archaic religion that has somehow
endured in parts of the world that modernity has never
reached. In the fantasy of the city cult,
the cultists live among us and are often elites.
They not only participate in modernity, but are largely
responsible for it, having corrupted social institutions
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for generations. These categories manifest in
both conspiracy theories and films.
So the Satanic cult mentioned inthis story would be a perfect
example of a country cult. Because I actually reached out
to Onomatopoeia Utopia and they were super helpful and gave me
some more information that this occurred in a little
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unincorporated town of North Texas, about an hour West of
Fort Worth. So an unincorporated town is is
definitely the definition of country.
And, you know, supposedly this cult had kind of been out of the
area for about a decade. I think either that was in a
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note that they sent me or it wasin the story.
Either way, that lines with the 80s and and Satanic panic.
And, you know, Oprah was talkingabout it like daytime talk shows
were talking about it. This was in the news.
This was, it was huge all over the place.
And so, yeah, I think it's completely fair that the people
of this unincorporated town, I think that's completely fair
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that they would have thought that there were Satanic rituals
or Satanic cults going on there.In fact, law enforcement
actually had trainings in the 80s, maybe even the early 90s.
Actually, I have not, I have notdouble checked my dates for
this, but I'm, I'm, I'm eyeballsdeep in the Satanic panic right
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now. So literally law enforcement,
the police were being trained onhow to spot satanic rituals, on
how to spot like satanic ritual abuse in children.
And none of this was real. And all of this was debunked and
people actually went to prison for nothing because it wasn't
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happening. It's super sad.
It's incredibly tragic. And it's just crazy to think
that, yeah, cops were actually getting taught how to identify
if something is is satanic or not, when really that wasn't
really happening. Like that wasn't really
happening. However, if there wasn't a cult
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or like the remnants of a cult, then what was the drumming?
What was the drumming if that, if it wasn't them?
I mean, it's I guess it's possible that there were some
indigenous people still living on the land and y'all just
didn't know? Or was it ghosts?
Was it? I mean, they didn't seem like
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friendly ghosts. They definitely seemed like
threatening ghosts who did not want you there sleeping in your
car. Although maybe they were just
looking out for you. Maybe they were just worried.
Maybe they were concerned ghosts, but I wanted to give an
idea of what I was kind of thinking in terms of like tribal
drums. So I actually looked up some
indigenous drum chants specifically that might have
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been used around the area. So here is my interpretation of
Wishita Duya, which is a water song.
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So I want you to imagine hearingthat in the middle of the night
in the dark because there aren'tany lights around, because this
is an unincorporated town. You're sleeping in your car.
And just imagine that that was like real drums, like scary
sounding like big drums, like tribal sounding drums, which are
not inherently scary. But lots of things that are not
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inherently scary become extremely scary when they are
happening in the middle of the night and you are alone and
there is no light and you feel unsafe.
So just imagine that Otherwise that's a perfectly, that's a
perfectly good intentioned song.It is supposed to bring the
rain. Supposed to bring the rain.
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OK, finally on to the on to the scariest part, which is the four
year old. I like it.
You just kind of like tacked us on at the end and it's so scary.
So, you know, like, I would assume that a normal 4 year old
probably doesn't have the vocabulary to be able to know
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what justification means and is probably not watching the kind
of content in which they would learn or that they would think
to talk about killing their parents.
You know, I mean, like there weren't parental controls in
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1998. So, you know, I mean, I
definitely was exposed to a lot of content, terrifying,
traumatic content that I should not have been watching when I
was a child. And so maybe that was the case
here. But what's scarier to imagine
is, yeah, whatever's behind thisdrumming, if it's not
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well-intentioned and it's not just the Water Song, if it was a
far more insidious intent, are they is that is this entity
behind the drums also the one whispering presumably through
the speakers where only this 4 year old can hear?
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There's justification in killingyour parents.
If I had it, This is This is whythere is not little little baby
Madam Strangeways. There's no Madam, Madam
Strangeways junior rolling around.
OK. And I'll tell you why.
Because if I had a four year oldand they told me that I don't
know what I would do. I don't know what I would do.
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Like, hello, police. I don't know, 911 What do you
do? What do you do?
You have to live with this childin your home after they say
that. And you have to pretend like
you're the you're the adult. So you're brave and you're
courageous and that doesn't bother you.
And then you're laying in bed staring at the ceiling, eyes
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wide open. And when you do sleep, you got
to sleep with one eye open to make sure that your child
doesn't come and murder you. Awful, do not like I will say,
going back to the form that you saw in the field in the dark and
then when you put your headlights on, they were gone.
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I did see a TikTok and I tried to find it just now and I did
not try very hard. But if you know what it is, let
me know. But there's a there's a
phenomenon that happens in phenomena.
It's impossible. I can't help it.
It's, it's, it's, it's a compulsion and it actually is
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really annoying. So anyway, it's a phenomena
where in the fog, the way that the wind is blowing and the way
that like the sun or like light or, you know, even if it's just
sunlight reflecting off of the moon, I would imagine that it
makes it look like there are human figures moving in the mist
and it looks like they're kind of coming through the fog toward
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you and then no one is coming toward you.
So I will say that there is phenomenon.
God, how many times can I say that word and not saying it?
Damn you Muppets. You know, So there is there is a
there is a phenomenon that explains it.
And it's like there's a fifth time.
The point is, is that it there is a reason there is an
explanation for something similar to that happening,
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whether or not that is what happened in this case.
I just, me personally, I don't want it to be an evil entity
that's also behind drumming, that is also whispering in
little girl's ears that there's justification in killing their
parents. I don't want that.
Unfortunately, onomatopoeia utopia, you don't really have
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that luxury because it did happen to you.
And I'm sure the terror that youexperienced, I know the terror
that you experienced was very, very real.
And I imagine that there's just no no way to explain it that
will, that will explain that primal terror that you
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experienced that night. So I'm sorry or multiple nights.
I'm sorry that you had to experience that.
I'm sorry that you had to sleep in your car.
Sounds awful. But on a happy note, I did love
that the dogs walked you to yourcar every night.
That was really sweet. Aw, that's sweet.
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Thank you so much for letting meread your story.
I really appreciated it. And if anyone has a similar
story that they'd like to hear read on the show, please go
ahead. e-mail it to me at maddenstrangeways@gmail.com.
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Girls voice telling us to stop it.
Bye OMG real UFO. Hey guys, I was hoping for a bit
of advice or to try and get someanswers.
I've had a couple of experiencesthat I am unable to explain.
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I'll start from the first incident when I was around 11
years old and my brother was 14.We lived in a new build home in
Wales. Very normal looking house and it
definitely did not feel or look haunted.
We found a couple of strange things in the back garden when
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we were younger, such as old bottles and a pair of old broken
sunglasses. Not sure if it's related or not
but thought I'd mention it. One of the first strange things
that happened was when my mum called us downstairs As for some
reason there was a glass of milkon our kitchen table that was
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full to the brim. Like it was so full if you moved
it, it would spill. My brother and I had no idea as
neither of us did it. We went to the living room for
something and when we came back,the glass of milk.
Was empty, weird but didn't think much of it.
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Fast forward a couple of weeks later, me and my brother were
playing The Sims game on the computer.
It was only me and him in the house as my mother was working
late. We were creating a new SIM when
all of a sudden something came between me and my brother's ear
and said stop it. It was the creepiest thing I've
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ever heard in my life and still to this day I can hear it.
It was really unnatural, I couldalmost feel the breath and it
freaked us both out. We both turned and looked at
each other and said did you hearthat?
We both jumped out of our seats and ran to the other room.
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Called our mother and told her Anne.
She just chalked it up as our imagination.
But whatever happened to us was real and definitely happened.
I've done a bit of research on it and have found that ghosts do
sometimes whisper stuff in your ears.
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Freaky stuff. Fast forward to a few years
later. Nothing paranormal after the
milk and whispering ghost girl thing incident.
But then there was one night when I was in bed, I had ATV in
the bedroom and the street lights outside would make the
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screen reflect stuff so I could see things in my hallway,
etcetera. It was around 3:00 AM when I
randomly woke up and I saw what looked like a woman in a white
gown walk into my bathroom and the door shut behind them.
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Freaked me right out. I said to myself it's probably
my brother as he had a white dressing gown.
I decided to get up and have a look.
I knocked on the door expecting my brother to reply but there
was no answer so I opened the door and there was nobody in
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there. Scared the shit out of me.
I ran back to bed and pulled thesheets over my head then ended
up falling asleep. I told my mom and brother about
it but they both just said I must have been dreaming.
Weird. Other than those incidents,
nothing else really happened until now.
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So Fast forward to today, I'm now 28.
I completely forgot about the whispering ghost girl until my
brother brought it up to me a couple weeks ago.
Once I started to remember it, some strange shit started
happening. Now this only happens when I'm
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at work, it's never happened in my flat or anywhere else.
But basically I was sitting in the work canteen having my lunch
and in the corner of my eye I saw what looked like a man in an
orange hoodie with his hood up and blue jeans.
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When I turn to look it disappears.
It doesn't happen every day, butit happens a lot.
Always the same orange hoodie and blue jeans.
Now where I work is right next to Cardiff Central train
station. I'm not sure if that's linked at
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all, maybe a death on the railway or something, but I'm
still seeing this orange hoodie man to this day and I just want
to know what people think. I've never seen their face as
their head is down with the hoodup.
Am I more open to paranormal things or spirits because of
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what happened when I was youngeror am I just going crazy?
Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
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OMG real UFO. I'm going to do a little bit of
just a just a small amount just a really just a small amount of
victim blaming because what wereyou and your brother getting up
to on The Sims? What were you doing?
I have questions, you know, Wereyou making an exceptionally ugly
SIM? Were you making that SIM a
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vampire? Were you making them a never
nude? Or maybe you're remembering
wrong. You weren't just building Sims,
you were trapping them in housesand then setting the houses on
fire or putting them in the pooland removing the ladder from the
pool. If that's not how you play The
Sims, that's wild to me. That's the only way that I know
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to play The Sims. So maybe that's what you were up
to. And that ghost was saying, cut
that out, cut out those SIM shenanigans.
Although they could have been a little bit more polite about it.
But when it comes to the things that you experienced as a kid in
that house growing up, you know,maybe if you're seeing that
through the lens of the paranormal being normal, like if
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you were raised and the paranormal was normal, super
normal para Hold on a second. What's the opposite of
paranormal? Hold on?
What does para even mean in paranormal hold, please?
Good news everyone. I have an answer.
And the prefix para like paragraph, paratrooper,
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paranormal, that suffix has manymeanings, including alongside
of, beside, near, resembling, beyond, apart from and abnormal.
So I would assume paranormal would be the abnormal, but then
does paranormal. So does that mean that
paranormal is just abnormal, normal, abnormal normal?
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Perhaps Abby normal? There's something abnormal,
Abby, paranormal, paranormal. That's got to be something
someone's come up with. Anyway, moving on to your
question, are you crazy or has your experience, your past
experience with the paranormal made you more susceptible?
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Well number one, I don't think you're going crazy.
I am not a medical professional,I am not in any position to
diagnose anyone with anything. However, it doesn't sound like
you're going crazy even if you are hallucinating this orange
hoodie man, but that still doesn't mean you're going crazy.
I've talked at length about how how normal it is to have the
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hallucinations. Obviously in some cases
hallucinations are not normal, but still doesn't make you
crazy. OK, I do.
I do feel very strongly about getting rid of the stigma around
the hallucinations that we all experience every single day, but
I'm not going to harp on that right now.
Here is what I'm going to jump on though is asking the
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Internet, especially Reddit, especially paranormal or
paranormal subreddits, especially those asking them
because I see this a lot. People post their story and they
ask like is this a demon? Is this paranormal?
Is this supernatural? Is a demon hunting me?
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Am I being haunted? Am I cursed?
Is there did did a witch put a curse on me?
Like these are the questions that that people ask a lot on
the subreddits. And I can tell that it's being
asked with a huge amount of anxiety.
And I think people just want, you know, an expert to tell them
what it is. Tell me what it is because
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uncertainty and not knowing is terrible, right?
It you feel out of control, you feel like if you could just know
the answer, then you can start making moves to find a solution,
right? But if you don't know what it's
wrong, then how can you fix it? And it just, it's scary.
However, asking Reddit, if I'm, if you're being possessed,
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they're going to tell you, yes, there are a small but very
active group of people, especially that comment on these
threads. And if you say, do you think
this is a ghost, they are definitely going to respond and
tell you, yes, definitely. Or actually it's worse than a
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ghost. Actually, it's a demon.
What it sounds like you're working with there is a demon.
And they're going to tell you asif they are an expert, which
they are not. Spoiler alert.
They are going to tell you with so much confidence how to fix
it. They're going to say you need to
sage your bedroom, you know, or you need to sage the room that
you're experiencing, to sage thewhole house.
You need to sage, you need to gobuy some crystals.
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Also, you need to say a prayer in whichever God's name.
Well, let me tell you, to me that is fear mongering and I
hate it. It's it's along the lines of Ed
and Lorraine Warren. So if you're not listening to my
series on the Warren's case files, starting with The
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Amityville Horror, moving on to Annabelle, I'm not doing it in
alphabetical order, but and, andI am.
Wow, that's completely on accident.
I just realized that. Anyway, listen to those because
I do have a problem with people who are fear mongering,
especially when it comes to invisible things like ghosts and
demons. Because how do you prove them
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wrong? You know, but they're not
experts. They don't know.
They have no idea what's going on in your life.
They do not know. They are just some rando on the
Internet and definitely do not take advice from these people.
If you see them giving advice, they don't know any better.
They don't. They did not attend the
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Winchester school for demon hunting.
All right, They didn't. I don't care what they tell you.
So just just as it just as it just as an FYI, just remember,
if you're looking for advice on the Internet about your
supernatural situation, a lot ofthe time people are going to
take advantage of your question and your vulnerability and you
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are being vulnerable sharing this online to a bunch of
strangers and they're going to take advantage of it to spread
fear and potentially to spread their religion.
So I take issue with it. Just take everything that they
say with a grain of salt and don't ever let a rando on the
Internet on a, on a paranormal Internet group.
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Don't ever let them scare you. Don't, don't, don't listen to
them because they don't know. They don't know, they don't know
you. They don't know your situation.
So just a warning, I don't know either.
I have no idea what's going on in this situation.
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And I'm going to be honest and tell you I don't know.
But here's what I do know. I did some digging into deaths
that happened at or around the Cardiff Central train station.
So there are deaths at the station related to the train or
related to the rail, but there'sjust not any detail on them.
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It's basically like a person died but it wasn't suspicious so
there's not going to be an inquest.
The end. So there's not really much to go
on there. I did find the death of one man
whose name I'm not going to share because I'm not trying to
make this a conspiracy theory, but you could easily find it if
you searched yourself where he died and they found his body 2
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weeks later in the bushes near the central train station.
I think this was like around like prime pandemic years.
Unfortunately, in all the photosof him, he's never wearing an
orange hoodie. That's not to say he never owned
one or never wore one. It's not to say that he didn't
die in one. But it didn't seem it didn't
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seem it didn't pan out. It's a possibility, but probably
not a probability. So I'm all out of leads.
Sorry I couldn't track down who your orange hoodie person was.
I don't even think I talked about the milk thing really
quickly. Let's touch on the milk because
I don't think I have drank a cupof milk, like a glass of milk
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like alone since I was a child. I don't even know if I ever just
drank just a glass of milk. That sounds like psychotic
behavior to me to like a full glass all the way to the top
where if it moved even a little bit it would spill.
That's already kind of scary, but then the thought that like,
you left the room, you came backand it's totally empty.
So this goes just straight up like shotgunned a glass of milk,
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like Narian Oreo to be seen. No other cookies or I guess
biscuits, as I assume you would say.
The concept of just having a glass of milk straight up, no,
no chaser. That's crazy.
That's the maybe that's the scariest part of this story is
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that thought so OMG real UFO. Thank you so much for letting me
share this story. But you know, since your name
has UFO in it, I'm kind of I'm I'm going to need you to have a
UFO story and I'm going to need you to let me read it.
So just get on that. If you haven't seen a UFO, I'm
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going to need you to figure it out, see a UFO and then write it
up and then send it to me. Hopefully it's not traumatic.
So thanks, Appreciate it in advance.
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Remember that you can feel afraid and not be in danger.
So if you have a true strange story that you'd like to hear
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Thank you so much for listening.See you next time.
(36:19):
We both jumped out of our seats and ran to the other room,
called our mother and told her, and just as she chalked it up,
God damn it, I thought I was, I was, I was really doing
something there.