The Annabelle of The Annaball: Ed & Lorraine Warren Paranormal Deep Dive | EP #22 - Madame Strangeways: True Spooky Paranormal Stories

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If you have a true strange storyof the unexplained you'd like to
hear, read on the podcast, e-mail it to
madamstrangeways@gmail.com or goto madamstrangeways.com or just
check the show notes for a link.I can't wait to read it.
Welcome, Strangelings to a special deep dive episode you'll

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hear all about one of Ed and Lorraine Warren's classic
paranormal case files. Annabelle, the possessed doll.
As usual, I'll share the scary story first, then drag you down
the rabbit hole with me, kickingand screaming.
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Hotter. And now on to the story of

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Annabelle here on Madam Strangeways.

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Annabelle the Haunted Doll, A retelling Donna, a nursing
student in the 70s, received an antique doll as a birthday gift
from her mother. It was a Raggedy Ann doll, a
popular doll that went back as far as the 1920's.

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The doll was large at nearly 2 feet tall and was a rag doll
made of soft cloth with bright red yarn for hair, black buttons
for eyes, a stitched triangular nose, and a serene painted
smile, dressed in a frilly dressand apron with signature striped

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stockings. Donna loved the gift, having
fond memories of Raggedy Ann from her childhood.
Initially, she displayed the doll on her bed as decoration,
but within days, she and her roommate Angie began noticing
strange occurrences. At first, they both found that

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the doll seemed to move on its own.
Sometimes Donna might have arranged the doll's arms one
way, only to find it posed completely differently when no
one had touched it. Then the women would leave the
house and return to find the doll in a completely different

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room than the room they had leftit in when no one else was in
the house. Sometimes they'd even find it
seated on the couch with its legs crossed, as if relaxing.
Other times they would discover it standing upright on its own,

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an impossible feat for a rag doll.
On several occasions, Donna distinctly remembered leaving
the doll in the living room onlyto return and find it back in
her bedroom, laying on her bed, patiently waiting for her.

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Donna and Angie also began to discover notes left around their
tiny apartment written on parchment paper that said help
us and help me and help Lou, seemingly referring to their
friend of the same name. The handwriting seemed to belong

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to a very young child, but no children had been to their
apartment, and chillingly, neither of them owned any
parchment paper. The paper used to leave the
notes. One day, Donna got a gut feeling

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that something wasn't right. She was drawn to inspect the
Annabelle doll and saw what appeared to be droplets of blood
appearing from thin air on its soft fabric, hands and chest.
Desperate for answers, Donna contacted A psychic medium.

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The medium held a seance and introduced Donna and her
roommate Angie to the spirit of Annabelle Higgins, A7 year old
girl who had played in the fields that existed where Donna
and Angie's apartment complex now stood.
Tragically, Annabelle's lifelessbody had been discovered in the

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fields and her restless spirit had chosen the Raggedy Ann doll
to inhabit. In an attempt at making a
connection with Donna and Angie sympathetic to the little girl's
tragic story, the women invited Annabelle's spirit to stay.
What they didn't know, however, was that this kind of invitation

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only made things far worse. The unexplainable activity
intensified when their friend Lou, who had long suspected the
Raggedy Ann doll was evil, experienced A terrifying
nightmare while laying in bed, paralyzed with fear, he watched

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an abject horror as the rag dollglided slowly up his leg of its
own accord, climbed up onto his chest and began choking him.
He couldn't breathe. He couldn't stop the doll.
Eventually, deprived of oxygen, he blacked out.

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The next morning, he was sure that that was not a dream at
all. Shortly after, while Lou was at
Donna and Angie's apartment again against his better
judgement, he heard the sound ofrustling from Donna's bedroom.
Afraid it might have been an intruder, Lou volunteered to

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check it out. Donna's bedroom was empty except
for Annabel, lying limp and crumpled in the corner.
Unsettled after his supposed nightmare, he quickly checked
for any signs of forced entry, but found nothing amiss.

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Still, something felt wrong. Slowly, he approached the doll,
despite his experiences, and suddenly felt an icy sensation
prickle down the back of his neck.
The unmistakable feeling that someone or something was right
behind him. He whirled around, expecting to

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find the intruder, but there wasno one.
Without warning, a searing pain exploded in his chest.
Doubling over, he clutched at his shirt, his hands coming away
stained with blood. When he unbuttoned his shirt, he
and Angie were horrified to find7 distinct claw marks scored

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across his chest. Three vertical slashes
intersected by 4 horizontal ones.
Yet as quickly as the injuries appeared, they began to heal.
By the following day, half of the scratches had vanished.
Within 48 hours, there was no trace of the attack at all.

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After losing counters with the doll, Donna again sought help
from a professional. But that time she wasn't going
to mess around. She contacted an Episcopal
priest named Father Hagen. Father Hagen, who felt he was in
over his head, contacted anotherpriest he felt was more
knowledgeable about spirits named Father Cook.

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Father Cook, rather than take iton himself, decided to bring the
case to the attention of the renowned ghost hunters and
paranormal investigators Ed and Lorraine Warren.
The Warrens had been hunting ghosts and exploring haunted
houses for nearly two decades when they were called to
investigate the Annabelle incident in 1952.

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They both founded the New England Society for Psychic
Research and were considered pioneers in the field of
paranormal investigation. After assessing the situation,
Ed said the doll wasn't possessed, it was being
manipulated by an inhuman spiritto create the illusion of
possession. This entity was looking for a

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way to break the women down, eventually possessing one of
them. Lorraine, known for her
clairvoyant abilities, confirmedEd's assessment, describing an
overwhelming sense of malevolence emanating from the
doll. This wasn't Annabelle Higgins,
she later said. This was something much darker,

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A demonic entity in disguise. The Warrens conducted a blessing
of the apartment and removed thedoll to keep it at their house
for safekeeping. During the drive home, they
reported multiple near accidentsas their car's brakes failed.
Ed stated that he stopped the disturbances only after

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sprinkling the doll with holy water.
After returning safely home, Ed placed the doll in a chair
beside his desk, where it initially seemed to remain
still. But within days, strange
activity began again, this time at the Warrens home.

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Annabelle levitated multiple times before falling limp and
lifeless again as if nothing hadhappened.
Weeks later, the doll began appearing in different rooms of
the house without explanation, as if moving and walking on her
own. When the Warrens locked the doll
in their office while away, they'd often return to find it

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inexplicably seated upstairs in Ed's favorite easy chair,
seemingly waiting for them. One day, Father Jason Bradford,
a Catholic priest and exorcist, visited the Warrens.
Spotting the doll on its chair. He picked it up, dismissed it as

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harmless, and tossed it carelessly back into its seat,
saying you're just a rag doll, Annabelle, you can't hurt
anyone. Ed immediately warned him.
That's the one thing you better not say.
Before leaving, Lorraine urged Father Jason to drive carefully

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and to call her once he was home.
Recalling their dangerous drive after their first encounter with
Annabelle, she felt an overwhelming sense of dread but
couldn't convince him to stay. Hours later, Father Jason phoned
the Warrens with terrifying news.

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On his drive home, his car brakes failed as he approached a
busy intersection, leading to a near fatal accident that
completely totaled his car. He was lucky to be alive.
The incident reinforced the Warrants belief in Annabelle's
dangerous nature. They placed the Annabelle doll

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in their occult museum in Monroe, Connecticut, securing it
in a locked glass case inscribedwith a sign warning positively
do not open. Despite its containment, though,
Annabelle's reputation only continued to grow.

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One of the museum's most infamous stories involves a
young man who mocked Annabelle during a visit, Ed Warren
recounted. This young man went up to the
doll, banged on the glass and taunted it, saying if you're
real, scratch me. I told him to leave and he did,

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laughing about it. 3 hours laterhe was dead.
The man and his girlfriend left the museum on a motorcycle
shortly after they crashed head on into a tree, killing him
instantly and leaving his girlfriend with severe injuries.
Lorraine later reflected on the event, saying that these objects

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are dangerous not because of their material, but because of
what they represent, a gateway to something far worse.

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That was a retelling of the original Annabelle story, which
is a purportedly true case file of Ed and Lorraine Warren, the
infamous Catholic paranormal investigator couple featured in
The Conjuring movie franchise. Much like the Marvel Universe,

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there is a Conjuring universe. So in addition to The Conjuring
films and the Nun films and I, Idon't know if the Devil made me
do it, was technically a Conjuring film.
I don't remember off the top of my head.
Anyway, there's 9 movies in The Conjuring franchise and three of
those movies are Annabelle movies.

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Pause really quickly though, because let me just let me just
address this. Welcome to what is now an
accidental series on the many case files of the Warrens.
So I had. Intended my With the best of
intentions, I had intended for this episode to be a deep dive

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about them, about Ed and Lorraine Warren.
I wanted to talk about their lives, their legacies, blah blah
blah, all their case files. But there's just so much juicy
stuff in just this story and then also all of the other
stories. I can't possibly, I can't
possibly tell it all in in one episode or we'd be here for 666
hours. So here we are instead, in Part

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2 of what is now a series on thepurportedly true stories of Ed
and Lorraine Warren's and paranormal investigative case
files. The first episode is actually
the episode 19. That's The Amityville Horror
episode. So if you want to hear all of
them, you can go back and listen.
You don't have to pause and go back, though.

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These are these are standalones.You can listen to them
individually, you can mix and match however you want to do it.
But technically that's the episode that kicked off the
series that I didn't realize wasgoing to be a series.
So these are just the deep dive episodes.
I will go back in the next episode to reading reader
submitted stories. So if you have a true story that

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you want to hear read on the show, feel free e-mail it to
madamstrangeways@gmail.com or goto madamstrangeways.com.
Right, so the sources for the story of Annabelle that you just
heard, the sources for that start with the Nesper blog,
which is any SPR. That is the New England Society
for Psychic Research, founded bythe famous paranormal

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investigators Ed and Lorraine Warren that I just mentioned.
They founded it back in 1952. It is now run by their
son-in-law, but not their daughter.
It's run by their son-in-law, Tony Sparrow, who seems to be
super into this stuff still, so good for him.
The second source was The Demonologist, a book written by

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Gerald Brittle in 1980 about Ed and Lorraine's experiences and
some of their case files up until that point.
But it's worth noting they were not writers, so their agents
would hire authors to write their stories for them.
So those are the 2 main stories for that retelling for that
story that I just read you. Those are the two sources.

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However, for the rest of the episode I lean heavily on
another source which is a book called The Exorcist Effect,
which is a phenomenal book. I cannot recommend it enough.
It's written by Joseph Laycock and Eric Harrelson.
This book is amazing. I really should have read it
before my Amityville Horror episode because it ties in so

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much with what I was discussing in that episode about, you know,
laying the groundwork for the Satanic Panic and all the
connections between having watched The Exorcist and then
Ronald Defeo Junior claiming, Oh, a devil made me do it.
So that would have just been really, really helpful if I had
read it before I did that episode.

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Anyway, The Exorcist Effect is ahistorical study of the ongoing
relationship between religious culture in the West and horror
movies, looking particularly at the period from 1968 to present
and 1968, of course, being when the movie Rosemary's Baby was
released. Just in a nutshell, Rosemary's

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Baby and The Exorcist really primed America to be more open
to the idea of demons and Satan being real and present danger.
Which prior to these movies, it was mostly only fundamentalists
who believed in the devil and demons.
But then in the late 60s, early 70s, you start to see this

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really stark rise in public belief in in Satan and and the
paranormal in general. And let me tell you, Ed and
Lorraine Warren glommed onto this and they held on tight
again with a death grip. So paranormal investigating at
this point was already their bread and butter.
But when you've got the tide of public opinion shifting and

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rising toward belief in the demonic and demons and Satan,
Satan, Satan, suddenly they begin to brand themselves not
just as ghost hunters, but now they're demon hunters.
Interesting that Ed Warren waited until the Exorcist swept
the nation in 1973 to start calling himself a demonologist.

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Isn't that interesting? Interesting.
OK, I don't want to get ahead ofmyself.
We're going to revisit this justbriefly, just a little, just a
little light little brief visit to it a little bit later.
The point is the Exorcist effect.
Check it out. It's amazing.
I really can't recommend it enough.
Give it a listen. Well, actually, this is how

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dedicated I was to reading this book.
I OK, I shouldn't even I should be editing this out, but I'm
going to keep it in Reading an actual book makes me go to sleep
now, like my eyes get tired and I fall asleep.
So I have to do audiobooks. Well, they don't have an
audiobook, just. Joseph Laycock, Eric Harrelson,

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if you're listening, I really wanted an audio book of this.
Well, I figured out Alexa will read it to me.
And is it the best? No.
Is her inflection always right? Does she say wound instead of
wound and live instead of live? Yes, but I think she can be
forgiven because she is a robot.Anyway, that's how dedicated I

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was to reading this is. I have been listening to the
book read in Alexa's voice and some of the stuff that she's
reading in this book out loud tome is very shocking to hear it
read in Alexa's voice. So don't listen to it like I did
unless you're really dedicated. But you can get a physical copy

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or a digital copy of the book. OK, just one more caveat.
Thank you for thank you for yourpatience.
One more caveat before I get toofar into this.
I do want to say that one reason, one of many reasons I
feel so strongly about Ed and Lorraine Warren, is that my
mother was influenced by the demonic fear mongering and

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satanic panic that the Warrens helped fuel.
Which means that I too was influenced because I was just a
child. And as a child with undiagnosed
and wildly untreated anxiety andmild obsessive tendencies due to
childhood trauma, the last thingI needed was my mother telling

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me that invisible demons who wanted to hurt me could be
sitting right next to me at any time, anywhere, even right now,
even this very moment. And if you've ever, if you've
ever suffered from anxiety, you,you already have a zillion
invisible things to worry about and be scared of.

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You don't need help. You don't need help thinking of
those invisible things that can hurt you.
And you definitely don't need your caretaker who you trust
telling you that Satan is real and we're at war with him.
I've spent well over a decade unraveling, unraveling this

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demonic sweater by just pulling at the strings and just walk
away. Walk away.
I don't remember exactly how that goes.
You, if you know, you know personally, personally, my
brain, I don't know how yours works.
My brain responds really well tothings like facts and proof.

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So educating myself about these things that used to scare the
hell out of me, it soothes me, you know?
And my hope is, my sincere hope is that it may soothe some of
you as well. The thing is, is there's plenty
of unexplained stuff out there to keep us up at night.

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We don't need potentially grifters or possible flim
flammery making it worse. We don't.
And Ed Warren created his own demon lore to suit his needs.
Literally. He took liberties with, I mean,
he took, he took liberties with and basically created his own

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fanfic universe of how demons worked.
And he did that, like I said, tosuit his own needs and those
needs of his. Those needs included telling as
many people as possible that youyes, yes, you, you listening
right now. He wanted you to think that you

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could be the victim of an invisible demon.
And and the kicker is, I mean, he's dead now, but when he was
alive and he was active, he would have wanted you to call
him if you thought that you werebeing bothered by a demon,
because then him and Lorraine, they could come give you a
visit. And then, you know, depending on
how marketable whatever was happening to you was, maybe they

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could get a book deal or a moviefranchise out of it, as well as
future speaking engagements and guest appearances on talk shows
like Sally, Jesse Raphael. Which, OK, maybe you don't know
about it now, but it used to be huge in the 90s.
It was sort of, OK, I'm not going to get into it.
You can Google it, but he reallywas on.
Both of them were on daytime talk shows.

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And you know, you may hear that the Warrens didn't take any
money for their services, but that doesn't make them selfless
or pious. No, they got something out of
it. They got a lot of something out
of it. So anyway, the point is, the
reason I'm telling you this is that there are just so many
compelling and fascinating true stories of the unexplained out
there. And, you know, some of which you

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wonderful, beautiful spooky people kindly share with me, to
me, scary stories can and you know, should be fun, you know,
even when they're scary, even maybe because they're scary, not
just Despite that, I mean, because they're scary, you know,
it's like, it's like horror movies, you know, horror movies
let us feel fear and anxiety andsafe environments.

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And you know, when some people, maybe not all, but in some
people, it can actually help alleviate anxiety in some
people's minds because you're, you're training your mind to
learn that yes, it feels afraid right now, but it is safe.
And that's what I'm all about. I can feel afraid and not be in
danger. You can feel afraid and not be

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in danger. But with the lore that Ed and
Lorraine Warren created from scratch, they wanted you to feel
afraid and they wanted you to feel like you were in danger.
It was their entire business model.
And that's messed up. It is.
It's just messed up. All right, OK, so moving on,

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we're going to talk about Annabelle, the possessed demon
doll who is definitely real and true for sure.
So if you've seen any of The Conjuring franchise, you may
have seen Annabelle 2014, which is a prequel to The Conjuring
and has a totally different story than what I like I said,

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it's a completely different story than the story that I just
told, which is based on the story told in The Demonologist,
the book written in 1980. So in the movie version, it's a
husband, which it's just, I justdon't understand what was wrong
with the original story, personally.
In the in the movie version, it's it's a husband who gives

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his wife this haunted doll. And I think that they somehow
shoehorn satanic villains in there too, because that was like
Ed and Lorraine's whole thing, even though there wasn't any in
the original story. Interesting.
So Annabelle the movie is a prequel.
OK, but don't forget the prequelto the prequel.
You've got Annabelle creation 2017 or you've got the sequel to

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the prequel. The, the prequel, the the sequel
prequel. It was a it was a feature, a
creature feature, the sequel prequel to Annabelle, and that's
Annabelle Comes home. That's the sequel prequel, the
prequel sequel to him. Unlike the story they told in

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The Demonologist, the first timethat we ever hear about this
story, the doll isn't a Raggedy Ann doll in the movie.
It's not a Raggedy Ann doll because there was no way that
Hasbro was going to approve thatbecause Raggedy Ann is a real
copyrighted, trademarked etcetera doll.
So they created this, I don't know this like knock off, knock

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off ventriloquist dummy looking kind of marionette, you know,
like with the big round cheeks and like the big wide eyes.
Like, yeah, I mean, I guess it'sit is it can be creepy.
I don't think that the doll thatthey made for the movie
Annabelle, I don't think I don'tthink she was an improvement.
I think they could have made a creepier doll that was closer to

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a raggedy and doll. Personally, I just don't think
that the one that you can Googleit.
I don't think that the I don't think it's scarier.
I think the raggedy and doll is way scarier because like picture
this picture this. I think it's way creepier.
Picture it raggedy and doll. OK, picture it gliding up whose

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leg to strangle him with the smooth little fabric doll hands
like that's oh God, I don't likeit.
I don't like it. It's way scarier personally.
So for anyone who wasn't familiar with a Raggedy Ann or
Raggedy Andy doll, like I said, they they are real.

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They're trademarked, copyrighted, etcetera.
They're real dolls. I think you can go buy them by
now at the store and they reallyare really almost 2 feet tall.
They're like 20 inches tall. It's insane.
That's too tall for a doll. And they do have this like
vacant blank smiling stare, which is why I think it's
scarier. And it's like innocent.

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And you would think if somethinginnocent is probably not going
to strangle you until you black out.
Whereas if you see this is my point.
If you see the ventriloquist looking doll in the Annabelle
movies, you see that doll and you're like, that doll is
definitely going to try to suffocate me in my sleep.
Like that doll is going to try to murder me, no question.

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So like I said, you can go buy probably a Raggedy Ann doll
right now. I will say, however, that
generally they are not possessed.
They do not come prepossessed bydemons and in general they are
not capable of attacking men. But wouldn't that be cool if
they did? Wouldn't it be cool if they did
that more often? Raggedy Ann and Andy was first

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mass produced 1920 back in 1920.Very long time ago, so long ago.
But hold on, because in this story, the vintage doll that was
given to Donna in the story in the 70s, it could have easily
been from the 1920s because thatwas definitely vintage back

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then. I mean, it's vintage now, but
I'm just saying like that was only 50 years earlier.
So 50 years is definitely vintage.
I think 25 years is considered retro and 50 is considered
vintage. Fact Check me on that, feel
free. Anyway, it's upsetting, and I'll
tell you why it's upsetting because the equivalent of buying
a 1920s doll in 1970 is the equivalent of buying today, a

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Raggedy Ann doll from 1974. Let that sink in.
From 1970 to 1920 is the same distance as 2024 to 1974.
I don't like it. So, like I said, Hasbro owns it.
They purchased the rights in 1983.
And if you're keeping score at home, which you may be, that

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means that Hasbro owns not only not only the inspiration for
Annabelle the haunted possessed demon doll, but it also owns the
trademark for the term Ouija or Ouija.
Coincidence. Possibly, But here's what's
really spooky. Oh well.
Sad and spooky. Kind of spooky and sad, both of

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them. Many people believe that Johnny
Gruell, the creator of Raggedy Ann, and her brother Andy.
Many believe that Johnny Gruell created the doll as a tribute to
his daughter Marcella, after hertragic death at age 13 from an
infected vaccination. She's really sad.

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So if you think about that, the fact that his daughter died a
tragic death, and then he decided he was going to make a
doll in her memory, you know, just steeped in grief.
And then that same doll later became possessed by a demon that
terrorized countless people. And then, oh, wait, no, just
kidding. That's not true.

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Gruel actually had already begunthe process of designing and
patenting the Raggedy Ann doll before Marcella's illness and
his US patent application for the prototype design, which is
US patent D47789. If you want to go Fact Check was
filed on May 28th, 1915, just around the time that Marcella

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became ill and it was finalized by the US Patent Office on
September 7th, 1915. So.
But despite the facts, which I think is a general.
Rule. Do not apply to the group.
I'm about to discuss the anti vaccination movement.
As recently as 2009, Co opted Raggedy Ann and Raggedy Andy as

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a symbol of their cause perpetuating this false myth
about poor Marcella's death. Which is gross in a word.
I mean, not her death. That's sad.
What's gross is using the memoryof a dead child like that.
Yuck. So that's Raggedy Ann, the doll

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in the original case file of Annabelle.
That is the doll that Annabelle was actually inhabiting, not the
creepy, weird Hollywood version that you see in the movie.
So now that you know everything that you needed to know about
Raggedy Ann, let's get into someof the problems with the
Annabelle story as told by Ed and Lorraine Warren.

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So first of all, and I think this is very important, no one
in this story has ever actually been identified like genuinely.
And in most of the Warren's other cases, like the Amityville
house, the Enfield Poltergeist, the Perrin family, which is the

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case that inspired The Conjuringfilms to begin with.
Typically you do see real people's names mentioned and you
can go find those people if you wanted to.
However, in this case, that's not that's in this actual
literal case. In this case, that's not the

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case. Lots of cases, but not Donna,
Angie, any of the multiple priests involved.
Lou, who was attacked and strangled by a Raggedy Ann doll.
None of them have ever come forward, which is a little weird
because of how lucrative not just the Warrens are in general,

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but also all three of the Anabolmovies.
There's a lot of money to be made.
If they came forward because this story happened to them,
even if they came up with a new story, there'd be a case to be
made. Or, you know, all they would
have to do is come forward and maybe Warner Brothers would want
to buy their life rights for $150,000 like they did for

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Lorraine Warren. We'll get into that in another
episode. Anyway, the point is there's a
lot of money to be made and it'sreally weird that you actually
can't identify anybody in this story.
Not a single person has ever come forward.
Also, from my research, I can't find any written reference to

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this Annabelle story prior to the demonologist in 1980.
Then you've got Ed Warren kind of contradicting himself.
There was this 1980s video made of him touring the occult
museum. His occult museum where
Annabelle sits in her weird little house cage.

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So in this video, purportedly heclaims Donna was given the dolls
a Christmas gift, not a birthdaygift.
He also says that Annabelle was a six year old girl who died in
a car accident outside of the apartment.
But in the demonologist book, ofcourse, he says that it was the
spirit of a child who lived in the area before it was an
apartment complex. So, you know, I mean, look, he's

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got a lot of cases, he's got a lot of demons and possess things
all over the place. Obviously he's going to, you
know, get things confused sometimes.
But I just feel like, I just feel like in order to be taken
seriously, you kind of need to have all your little weird demon
ducks in a little demon row. Just a thought.

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So Joseph Laycock, one of the authors of my now favorite book,
The Exorcist Effect, calls the Annabelle legend quote an
interesting case study in the relationship between pop culture
and paranormal folklore. End Quote.
And he even speculates that thisdemon doll trope that's

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popularized by such films as Child's Play, which is where
you've got Chucky, Dolly Dearest, which I never heard of
actually until now. And then of course, Annabelle
and The Conjuring universe. These tropes likely emerged from
even earlier legends surroundingother infamous possessed dolls

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that predate Annabelle. You've got 1 Robert the Doll,
which I'm going to talk about shortly here.
And then also, most notably, which I'm also about to talk
about, a Twilight Zone episode released five years earlier
called Living Doll, in which themother who gives the doll to her

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daughter, the mother is named Annabelle.
Hmm, interesting. So Laycock goes on to suggest
that the idea of demonically possessed dolls allows modern
demonologists to find supernatural evil in the most
banal and domestic of places, which is what I was saying

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earlier. Oh, there's invisible demons
everywhere, and they might be attacking you at any second.
Ed Warren really ran with this, though.
This whole possessed dolls, demonically possessed dolls.
He loved demonically possessed dolls because do you know what
else he did? He also claimed that Cabbage
Patch dolls attracted demons. They, this is what he said he

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said. I think he even said there was
like a plague or like a, a pandemic or a demonic
infestation or something about Cabbage Patch dolls attracting
demons to possess their little doll bodies, which which he said
would then allow them to levitate and also say things

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there. They weren't talking dolls, to
be clear. Cabbage Patch dolls, if you've
never met them, can't talk as a general rule.
But he says that these demons would possess them, in which
case they would then say things like, I'm not just a doll, I'm
the Lord of hell. So he just had like a thing for
evil dolls, I guess. I don't know, I don't get it.

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And when I was Googling this, I really did not expect to come
up. What came up?
The Duggars, the family from theinfamous TLC show 19 Kids and
Counting the Duggars, they buy into this Cabbage Patch dolls
being possessed by Satan and demons thing.

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I mean, I'm sure that's not shocking to anyone who's even
remotely familiar with the Duggars.
But I mean, no doubt they've gone on to then influence other
people to believe the same. So thanks, Ed.
Thanks for that. OK, I said we were going to talk
about it. We're going to talk about it.
Robert the Doll, one of the haunted possessed dolls that

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predates Annabelle. If you haven't heard a story
about Robert the Doll, I'm just giving you a super nutshell
version. Please go find a podcast about
Robert the Doll and listen because it's a wild ride.
But in a nutshell, Robert the Doll is a supposedly true story

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of a haunted doll. Now, these stories date back to
at least the 1930s. And they got worse in the 70s.
But Robert was created by the Stif or Stif, I don't know how
to pronounce IT. Company around 1904 and gifted
to a Key West boy by the name ofRobert Eugene Otto.

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You may be saying I thought the doll's name was Robert.
It is. It's weird.
The child Robert Eugene went by the name Gene and then he named
his doll after himself after hisfirst name that he doesn't use.
Very weird. Also weird was how huge this
doll was. I don't know what it is about
huge dolls in this story, but I this doll is 40 inches tall,

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twice as big as Raggedy Ann, so it's nearly 3 1/2 feet tall.
I feel like. I feel like if you are a doll
and you are over 20 inches tall,I do feel like there's a case to
be made. I feel like maybe you do have a
higher chance of being possessedjust because they're just, We

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just don't need dolls that are like the size of children.
I just don't think we need it, so maybe just keep an eye on
that. If you've got a doll that's
taller than 20 inches in your home, just stay vigilant.
Keep me updated if anything spooky happens.
So this doll would supposedly get into all sorts of mischief

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and and tomfoolery that Jean's parents would of course blame
Jean for. And then Jean would of course
blame it on Robert. Oh, Robert did it, Robert did
it. It was Robert.
He's the one. Well, you know, he didn't grow
out of this because he still hadRobert the doll when he grew up
and got married. And his wife understandably

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didn't like it. His wife didn't like the doll.
And, you know, kind of like when, OK, I hate man caves, but
it sounds like that's what happened here.
I think they got married and then Jean was like, well, I
don't want to get rid of Robert.I know I'll put him in my man
cave. His man cave in this instance

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was some sort of some sort of weird turret room which is like
up in the attic and has a windowoutside and people could see the
doll from the window. I don't, I don't fully
understand the way that buildings work apparently
because I've never heard of anything like this room.
Anyway, his man cave was up there and that's where he locked
Robert away because his wife hated it.

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Well, here's the thing. Shortly after, his wife was
supposedly stricken with insanity, obviously because
Robert the doll cursed her with an insanity curse.
I don't know. And then people who passed by
the house when Robert was in hisconfinement in his man cave

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reported seeing the doll move orchange positions, which is very
creepy. Very creepy.
So eventually Robert the Doll ended up being donated to the
Fort East Martello. That might be Marteo Marteo.
I actually don't know which one it is and I'm going to let
someone correct me. The Fort E Marteo Museum in Key

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West, FL where he's currently ondisplay.
But beware, if you take his photo without asking permission,
Robert the Doll will put a curseon you.
His display case is apparently covered in letters of apology
that are sent in by people who took his photo without consent.

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And then they had nothing but terrible luck afterwards.
So they're writing him like, please forgive me, Robert, I'm
so sorry I took your photo. Please just stop making me lose
all of my jobs and my dog in my truck.
And wait a minute, Maybe Robert the doll is somehow partially
responsible for all of the country music that we have
today. Interesting.

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So there's that doll which, which, listen, that doll was
around well prior to 1980 and also prior to 1970 when the
story of Annabelle was supposed to have happened.
And that's when we first hear about Annabelle's 1980,
remember. So this doll definitely predates
that. The other thing that I said, we

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were going to talk about the Twilight Zone episode.
I was obsessed with Twilight Zone as a kid.
I loved the Twilight Zone so this episode is one of the
classic ones and and I'll tell you in a minute why you might
recognize this episode even having not seen it.
So the Twilight Zone episode called Living Doll was from

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1963. It was about a doll that comes
to evil life and spoiler alert for a 60 year old show.
Spoiler alert, the doll commits murder.
And yes, like I said, the mother's name in this episode
really is Annabelle. I really don't know how much

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more on the nose you can be about it.
So because genuinely, it seems like even if Ed and Lorraine
didn't set out specifically to copy this episode, I mean, they
must have seen it and like subconsciously associated the
name Annabelle with murderous dolls, you know, I don't know.
So in the episode, the dad has this weird beef with this

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sentient doll. Like the doll is talking out
loud and he's having conversations.
With the doll, the doll does. Not like him.
And I'm going to say I'm going to go with the doll with this
one. I feel like I feel like the doll
Talkie Tina is the name of the doll.
By the way. I feel like Talkie Tina was on
to something here. He just seemed a little red

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flag. We'll call it a red flag If your
husband or father or partner is has beef with a talkie teen, a
doll, we'll just call that a redflag.
And not only does he have beef with this doll, he also holds up
a lit match to her face and she goes ow.

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And then he makes a comment that's like, oh, if you can
feel, then I can hurt you. What?
Where's that like red flag guy on TikTok?
Like waving it around aggressively.
Then the doll tells him after he's just said then I can hurt
you. She says not really, but I can

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hurt you. Hell yeah Tina.
Hell yeah hurt him. I'm here for it.
This is a great. I don't remember cheering for
Tina when I was a child but now I need to re watch this episode.
I think I'm going to have a completely different point of
view about it. OK, so Talkie Tina is the doll
that was used in this episode, Talkie Tina as a reference to

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Chatty Cathy. But in the doll in the actual
episode was made by the Vogue doll company and it was marketed
under the name Briquette, which makes me think of charcoal.
So I don't know, but it's spelled BRIKETTE.
But it was just a normal doll. It didn't talk on the Twilight

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Zone though. Obviously they needed a talking
doll, but they didn't want to use the look of the Chatty Kathy
doll. So just like with Annabelle, how
the movie makes the doll look different than the actual story.
They swap it up a little as well.
So they use this briquette, thischarcoal doll, they use
briquette as the doll. And then they use actually the

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voice of the Chatty Cathy doll in the episode.
The same actress, June 4A, who was a a famous voice actress at
the time, she did the voice for the Chatty Cathy doll.
And then she also did the episode for the Talkie Tina doll
in the episode, which if you think about it, if you think

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about it, if you had a Chatty Cathy doll in your home when
this episode was released in 1963, and it's using the same
voice as the Chatty Cathy doll in your house.
And it's saying things like, I don't like you anymore and I'm
going to kill you. Like, oh, just imagine how

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terrifying that was and how likethat put in the public
consciousness this thought of haunted, demonically possessed
dolls. And here's Rod Sterling's intro
for the Twilight Zone episode, which I am purely including
because I want to try out my RodSterling impression.
And I want to say I meant to listen to him or read this first

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so I could compare, but I didn't.
So this is not with reference. I'm going to give it a go.
Here we go. Dokie Tina, a doll that does
everything. A lifelike creation of plastic
and springs and painted smile. To Eric Strader, she is the most
unwelcome addition to his household, but without her, he'd

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never enter the Twilight Zone. I'm not even I don't even want
to know how that went. You tell me.
Let me know in the comments. So some of you, like I was
saying earlier, some of you may not have actually seen this
actual a Twilight Zone episode. However, I bet that you may be

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familiar with it because it was parodied in The Simpsons
Treehouse of Horror Three Halloween special in 1992, which
was so long ago, and it's a crusty doll that comes to life
to terrorize Homer. It's a great episode.
The Simpsons did a lot of Twilight Zone references and
Twilight Zone remakes in their Treehouse of Horror episodes.

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Still holds up. So where is Annabelle now, you
may be asking? Well, Annabelle is safely tucked
away inside the Warren's Occult Museum, which is located in the
basement of the house that they lived in in Monroe, Connecticut,
which had to close to the publicin 2019 because even a

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demonologist is no match for zoning laws.
Since the museum was in a house basement, it wasn't zoned to be
a museum. Which makes sense because
actually nothing about this museum really looks like a
museum anyway. If you look up pictures, it
really just kind of looks like your weird great Uncle Stan's

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collection of oddities. Truly, if you, if you watch
Gravity Falls, I just get such Gronkle Stan.
I get such Gronkle Stan energy from Ed Warren.
Honestly, you've got like Halloween decorations just
haphazardly placed beside what they insist are like relics or

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cursed objects. It's just really weird.
It, it's, it's just a bunch of Chotzkys, Tchotchkes,
tchotchkes, creepy tchotchkes. It's definitely a choice.
So this museum, which you can nolonger visit, unfortunately,
this museum featured a collection of artifacts and

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trinkets from the Warrens they claimed were defiled by evil,
including an alleged vampire's coffin.
OK, an alleged vampire's coffin.I wish I was making this up.
If I was making it up, I wouldn't even.
I wouldn't be this brazen if I was making this up.

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An alleged vampire's coffin. A child's tombstone that had
been used as a satanic altar. Death curses.
Unclear what that means. Demon masks.
Again, I kind of don't know whatthat means either.
Like, is it a mask that a demon used to wear?

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Is it like the mask mask? Do they have the mask mask in
the museum? Have people tried to put it on?
I don't know. Listen, they've got a bunch of
weird stuff like those. OK.
But the star of the show, the Bella de Bella de Ball, the, the
Annabelle of Diana Ball. I'm so proud.

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I'm so happy with that to Annabelle and to Anna Ball.
She was the she was the star of the show.
She was prominently displayed inthis strange like miniature
house thing. It's it's like a mini church.
Like it's got a little like here's the church and here's the
steeple. Like it's got like a little roof

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and it's wood, except the front door is glass, which allows you
to see in. So it's a display case.
It's, it's really weird. It's got a cross hanging above
the door and there's a hand painted sign inside, a hand
painted sign inside of the case beside Annabelle that says

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warning positively do not open. And weirdly there's also this
tarot card nailed on the door. Ed and Lorraine Warren were
super Catholic, so I find that really weird.
And if you're curious if you're into tarot or even if you're
not, if you're curious, the tarot card on the door is the

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devil card. I personally think that they
just thought that that gives it like a just like a little little
like a little Genesee quoi. Like it's just gives it that
extra little touch and a nod to make sure people know that they
don't forget that this is a devil infested doll.

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That's what I think that it's there for, you know?
But I don't know. Tell me.
You tell me. Here's what I'll tell you what
the devil card means when it's upright, which it is.
The devil card in tarot means bondage, enslavement, fear,
feeling trapped, materialism, temptation, unhealthy
relationships. I just feel like the being, the

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the feeling trapped part, that just seems like salt in the
wound for poor Annabelle. She's trapped in there.
She's feeling very trapped. She's feeling enslaved.
She she might be feeling fear, and you want to talk about
materialism? What the hell else is the entire
Warren's Occult Museum other than just materialism anyway?

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OK, I could, I could really talkabout this strange little house
that I assume Ed built her. I could go on about it because,
OK, you know what? I am going to go on about it
because here's the thing, you can Google it, pull it up.
Look up the weird little house that she's toured in if it's so
important that you keep her awayfrom people so that she doesn't
do any more harm, right? If that's their goal is to

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reduce harm. If Ed and Lorraine Warren are
setting out to rescue people andto save them from demons and,
you know, like, bring them to Catholicism, presumably, like
bring them to Jesus and God, if that's the idea.
I just find it really weird thathe's like, you know what I'll
do? I'll put a glass display case in

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the front, like this doll can levitate, This doll can move
around. It can.
It can open doors. It's been established in the
story that it either opened doors or phased through walls in
order to get back into Donna's bedroom, if you'll remember.
And if this Raggedy Ann doll canchoke a man out so hard he

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passes out, I just feel like she'll be able to breakthrough
glass with her weird little mitten hands.
I just don't. I don't think it's safe.
So it's almost as if the purposeof putting her in a box with a
display case with a display dooris to charge admission for your

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museum. I don't know.
I'm just thinking, I'm just spitballing.
I don't know. What do I know?
I don't know, Like, is she really trapped in that box?
Because here's the thing, in some of the photos I found of
this little house she's living in, there's clearly like a
sliding lock on the outside likethat you slide into place so

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that she can't open it. And in that photo, there's also
a little hook latch up at the top and there's a padlock on the
little door handle so that her, like I said, like her little
soft little fabric doll hands can't pry the door open.
Although I do still think she could break open the glass.
But hold on because then in another photo it looks like

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there's an actual like key lock in the door.
Like that actually uses a key, but there's no sliding lock in
that picture. So they've obviously been like
making changes and possibly hopefully upgrades in the
security of the Annabelle doll. But hold on cuz then in other
photos, all I can see is there'sno locking mechanism.

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All I can see is that they have hung a novelty key chain on the
door handle, which is not even in any way securing anything.
It's just like a loop handle. So they've got like a novelty
key chain hanging from the handle.
Like, I mean, I'm serious, like a little hologram skull key

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chain. Definitely no sort of locking
mechanism. Hold on, let's go back in the
photo where there's a padlock onthe handle.
The padlock is just locked onto the handle, it's not locking
anything shut. Like there would need to be a
chain of some sort for the padlock to lock onto and there

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isn't. It's literally just hanging on
the door handle. You know, it's almost as if this
is all for show. OK, one last detail about her
little abode. The positively do not open sign

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when it's displayed in this box that she's in.
They don't even have it. They haven't even bothered to
display the warning sign properly.
It's literally cut off because it's not.
It should be raised up a few inches because it cuts off the
bottom of the sign. So all you can see, all you can

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see is that it says warning. Positively do not.
That's it. Do not what?
Do not what? What if this is my first time at
the Occult Museum and I don't know the story behind Annabelle
and I see this sign and all thatthere is on the door handle is
this holographic skull key chain.

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And it says warning positively do not.
And I'm like, what does it say? I want to know.
So I open the door and now I have allowed Annabelle to
escape. Now look what you've done
because you can't bother to, youjust can't bother to put the
sign up properly. Just I just there's, it's, it's
a security nightmare. I don't know.

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I don't know what to say. It's not good.
It's not secure. She's not safe.
So in addition to the three Annabelle movies, in addition to
seeing her at the museum when itwas open before it got closed,
there's been another opportunityto get closer to Annabelle.

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Very, very close. Extremely close.
Because in 2023, Herodin Vodka released 666 bottles of
Paranormal Reserve vodka that had been placed for 30 days near
Annabelle's weird little enclosure.
Yes, you heard right. The vodka came in a wooden box

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featuring a functional Ouija board on its lid.
And it also came with gloves forhandling the bottle because you
don't want to touch the bottle directly.
Otherwise you might, I don't know, get cursed.
But you're going to drink the vodka.
Oh, no. Oh.
OK. So the back of the label is
inscribed with Help Me Help us like Annabelle purportedly wrote

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on the parchment paper and Donna's apartment.
So very creepy. You know, just like putting the
bottle, putting the bottles of vodka, like just near
Annabelle's little house. It's kind of like the Lacroix
model. I think that's the method that
Lacroix uses, where you just place, you just place the fizzy

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water kind of in the general vicinity of a fruit and you just
pray for osmosis. I think that's kind of what they
were going for. So wait, hold on though.
Hold on. Because the 666th bottle of
Annabelle vodka was placed directly inside of Annabelle's
creepy little protective case for 30 days.

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I don't. I don't know what they were.
I don't. Did she sneak some?
Like, are we sure that the bottle was still sealed when it
was released? Like, did she drink any of it?
I don't know. I'm not sure of the bottle.
This bottle, the 666th, 666th, it's hard to say.

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The 666th bottle of Annabelle Vodka goes for the low, low
price of 13,000 dollars, 13,000 dollars, $13,000.
Thankfully it comes in a one-of-a-kind bespoke wooden
case directly inspired by Annabelle's current confines.

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So you know you've got that going for you, which is nice.
You know, hold on, just as a side note, when you hear about
something being exorbitantly expensive like that, like
$13,000 for a bottle of vodka orlike a $6000 burger, that's
purely marketing. It's straight PR, so they do
something crazy like that to make it more enticing for

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publications to pick up their press release and report on it
because no one wants to talk about, you know, well, I was
going to say, no one wants to talk about a haunted vodka
that's only $100 or $200.00. But actually I do feel like
that's newsworthy. But they are definitely more
incentivized to run a story about a $13,000 bottle of vodka.

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I assume that putting the price at $666 wasn't high enough to
get the attention of news publications, so I guess I just
went with unlucky 13 and then a bunch of Zeros.
So anyway, a portion of all paranormal reserve sales of the

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Annabelle vodka benefited Toys for Tots.
That's sweet. And let's also hope that none of
those toys for the Tots were possessed by a demon.
And also hopefully someone bought that $13,000 bottle,
because if that bottle was included in the portion of the
sales that benefiting Toys for Tots, then aw, that's a lot of

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money for charity. I hope so.
So also, I thought that this wasa special vodka specific to
Annabelle. I when I first heard about it, I
hadn't heard of any other kind of weird haunted vodkas.
Au contraire, Herod and Vodka has been releasing a new
paranormal reserve every year since 2021.

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From what I can see, I think they started in 2020.
This year's 2024's Paranormal Reserve is the Asylum Edition.
This limited edition collection of the Herod and Vodka was
arrested for a month and two of America's most haunted asylums,
the Trans Allegheny. I don't know, a lunatic asylum

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in West Virginia and the Pennhurst asylum in
Pennsylvania. Just one, 7999.
That's $179.99. So much more affordable than
$13,000 now, I thought. I thought originally that the
gloves that the Annabelle vodka included was a nod to how Ed

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Warren has said he handled the Annabelle doll.
He said that he would do, I don't know, all these different
kinds of Catholic blessings. And I don't know, like a Hail
Mary or something. And maybe there was holy water
involved and there was some kindof like, Catholic light that
would surround him. And then he would feel like he
was fortified enough in order tohandle the doll.

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And then he would put on really thick gloves, and then he would
open the door and then move the doll with the gloves.
So when I first heard that the Annabelle vodka came with a pair
of gloves, I was like, wow, whatan interesting nod to this
obscure fact from Ed Warren. Oh, OK.
Actually, no. All of the Paranormal Reserve
vodkas going back to even 2021 all come with gloves for safe

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handling. So OK, it's not a specific nod
to Annabelle. I've said not a lot.
I feel like in the last 30 seconds we're just going to keep
moving. But it's a thing that the
Paranormal Reserve Harridan Vodka does, which I think is
actually even cooler that it's not specific to Annabelle.
And honestly, at first, when I first heard about this Annabelle

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vodka, I was like, wow, that's pretty metal.
Very cool. But then as I was reading more
about Ed and Lorraine Warren, I was like, I don't know about
this. I don't think I like this
anymore. But then I did research on this
Harrod and Vodka and saw all of their cool branding and read
about them. It's like they're super cool.

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They're super witchy woman ownedso I'm definitely not sponsored
by Harridan vodka, but I am now a fan so go check them out.
They've got cool occulty witchy spooky haunted vodka so go check
them out. harridan.com. HARRIDAN.

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And apparently harridan means a strict bossy or belligerent old
woman, so even more to love. So go buy some Harridan vodka
for your friends. Buy it for your enemies.
And you know what? Hold on, here's what you do.
You buy it for your enemies. You don't give your enemies the
gloves. You take the gloves out so your
enemies are handling cursed haunted vodka bottles.

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And then your friends do get thegloves and so they're protected.
So this is what you can do for Christmas this year.
Buy Herod and vodka for all yourenemies and don't give them the
protective gloves. Let me know how it works out for
you. So that's the story of
Annabelle, the original case file of Ed and Lorraine Warren

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who inspired 3 Annabelle movies and will probably inspire more
Annabelle movies if I know anything about movie companies.
Just just assuming so I'm not sure yet what my next deep dive
episode will be about. However, if you want to have an
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So thanks so much for listening and I'll see you all next time.
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