April 26, 2024 • 24 mins
In this episode, Brooke Butler, a medical intuitive, and I discuss the importance of play, wellness, and mindfulness. We emphasize finding balance, enjoying nature, embracing creativity, and prioritizing rest to enhance productivity and well-being. Tune in for an inspiring discussion and be empowered to conquer the feeling overwhelmed.
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Show Notes
- Rebounder Trampoline for Adults
- Day Design: Deliberately planning your day. Book: Design Your Day
- Book: How to Keep House While Drowning
- Menstrual cycles and rhythms
- Nap Ministry - Normalizing Rest
- Book: The Power of Full Engagement About how rest makes us more productive
- Book: Fast Like A Girl is where Macarena learned that fasting women must follow their cycle to do it healthfully and describes the cycle in four phases: Power, Manifestation, Power, and Nurturing
- Pomodoro Technique & Writing Sprints both are about focused bursts of time
- Strengths Test
- Enneagram Testing
⭐️ Guest Brooke Butler - Medical Intuitive
Brooke offers sessions using multiple modalities and a map-based system of medical intuition to help your body mind find a new place of homeostasis, allowing for more profound healing. Brooke loves playing in nature, was an adventure guide, teaches restorative yoga, does sound healing, and greatly loves art and alchemy.
She offers medical intuition distance sessions on the phone or online, mentoring, group sessions, yoga nidra, and maps to wellness.
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Macarena (00:00):
Are you overwhelmed?
Do you need a little kindnessand permission to play
to help you be present?
Then you're going tolove today's episode
with Brooke Butler.
She's a medical intuitive.
A great friend of minewho I adore deeply.
She lives in Lake Tahoe andshe has really fun group
programs out there andshe does virtual sessions.
(00:22):
She's really wise,kind, and generous,
and We're going to have a funconversation where we talk about
play and rhythm andallowing, giving ourselves
permission to be in the flow.
Please enjoy.
Intro (00:38):
Welcome to Magical Mindset with Macarena Luz
Bianchi, where we explore themagic of mindset, gratitude,
and purposeful living.
I'm your host Macarena, andI'm thrilled to have you
join me on this journey ofwonder, wellness, and wisdom.
You can find the episodeshow notes, your free Magical
(01:00):
Mindset Blueprint, andmore at xpres.me/podcast,
and here's the show.
Macarena (01:09):
Thank you, Brooke Butler, Medical Intuitive
for joining me today.
And can you please, sharewith us what you do?
Brooke (01:18):
Yes.
Thanks for having me.
So I work with the body'sinnate intelligence to help
people figure out what's theroot cause of their diseases
and their afflictions.
And sometimes we'll moveinto more spiritual growth.
But most of the time peopleare coming to me because they
want to find more balancein their daily life or in
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their body or in their mind.
Macarena (01:43):
I feel very fortunate because we've worked
together for a very long time.
So I love Brooke's sessions.
I love how she works.
She's so kind andgiving and loving.
She holds such abeautiful, loving space.
And I really think you'reincredible at what you do
and you can move energylike nobody's business.
(02:03):
I appreciate that about youand I welcome you again.
This is a free flow conversationbecause I know we've talked
about the importance of play.
Playing is really important.
We talk about that a lot.
That's a big part ofmy whole lighthearted
empowerment journey.
I've noticed that with thewonder wellness and wisdom,
which is lighthearted living,that most people suffer
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because they're ignoringa part of themselves.
And maybe it's becauseI'm a recovery workaholic,
I work with a lot ofintense people like myself.
And I find that it's thewonder piece that's missing.
That's one of thethings I see a lot.
And of course, people arecoming to you also for a lot
of health stuff, whereas I'mmore focused on the mindset.
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you're one of the people,when I think of having
fun and living fully, Ilove how you embrace play.
I know you live in LakeTahoe and every moment
you can, you're outsidedoing something fun.
So can you tell us aboutyour commitment to enjoying
yourself and expressing yourselfphysically and with fun?
Brooke (03:07):
I can, but first I want to take a moment to honor you
because I feel like you havetaught me so much around how
to bring fun into work . AndI think that is the goal is
to make our work our play.
Even though people's issuescan feel heavy sometimes, with
cancer diagnoses and, various,rheumatoid arthritis, autoimmune
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conditions, whatever it maybe, reproductive health, there
is a way to weave the fun.
And I think that's one ofthe things that I've gleaned
in our sessions together.
So thank you.
And I think , it is a balance.
I'm actually from Floridaand as we know in Florida,
it can be very hot.
So we're limited tocertain times of the
year to get out and play.
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I feel very fortunate to livein Lake Tahoe because we do
have the seasons and In thewinter we have skiing and
snowboarding, and it's wonderfulto get out in the snow.
But I just find that for me it'sa balance point to be in nature,
to allow myself to move mybody and to focus on my breath,
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and my main sport in life.
The summer is mountainbiking and I actually
really love to do that.
It's more like a meditationfor me at this point.
It's just another way toalign the body, the mind
and the spirit for me.
And of course there's many waysthat people can do that through
art or meditation and yoga orany of the movement practices
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where we bring the awarenessto the breath and then link it
up with the rhythm and it'sall about synchronizing, right?
And I think One of the bigthings about being close
to the Earth is the abilityfor the Earth to carry us.
And if we offer that extra layerof "what do I do with this?"
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That we can use our breathto release, to then become
more grounded, to thenhave the clarity, to then
see where to focus ourintentions and our energies.
I hope that answersyour question.
Macarena (05:08):
Right.
Well, I think that'sthe common thread.
Like in our sessions,it's coming up.
You have permission to havefun, like how much more powerful
it is to prioritize fun.
And that's part of the thingsthat come up, especially someone
like me, where I can't help.
People say, "Oh, well, ifyou slow down, you're not
going to do anything."And I always, I
challenge you, try it.
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See how long you can gowithout doing anything.
It's really difficult.
You might be exhausted.
So you might need aday or two to rest, but
eventually, especially, we'realso such creative people.
You're also an artist thatit's hard to sit
still for too long.
It's actually like a sacredpractice to try to do that.
I love what you said about thepermission is so important.
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And of course some people havedifficult situations or they're
overwhelmed with their families.
I've been there before.
So What advice do you have forpeople that are overwhelmed?
I think they need theplay the most actually.
But what would yousay to somebody who
came to you like that?
Brooke (06:08):
I actually think about myself because I often get
overwhelmed, but I know ifI take 15 minutes to get out
the door to be in nature orto just move my body, that
it's going to shift my energy.
And I like your rememberingof permission is giving
yourself permission tofind balance, right?
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And obviously there'svarious tools that we can
work with within our owninnate being to find the
balance for the overwhelm.
I was reading yesterdaysomething about eat the frog
first and it's like doing thehardest thing in your day.
So I would say, do thehardest thing and then reward
yourself with the 15 minutewalk or 20 minute walk.
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I've been into rebounding,which is super fun.
And there's a lot ofstudy around using
the mini trampolines.
So it's, many ways to movethe body and maybe it's
just getting out your artsupplies and having some fun
for 10 minutes in between.
Macarena (07:06):
just even a little walk is easier.
And my pets appreciate
Brooke (07:11):
I'm sure they do.
And day design.
Is scheduling it into theday that you know, that I
only have one hour for lunch.
So I'm going to spend 35 minutesactually eating and then the
extra time to move the body.
And to move thelymphatic system.
I think that's why therebounding is for the lymphatic
system being our secondcirculatory system, right?
(07:32):
Toxic waste system, but thatyou can do it 10 minutes
and it's equivalent of, Idon't even know, an hour
of exercise or something.
And it is fun.
So yeah, it's important.
Macarena (07:43):
Fantastic.
This whole idea ofrhythms versus habits.
Habits and routines canseem serious and can
feel pretty serious.
But I like this ideaof healthy rhythms.
For me, when I think ofwhat's a healthy rhythm,
I think of it's not aboutjust focus, focus, focus.
It's like being ableto come in and out.
Like I said, it's okay tobe relaxed and go for a walk.
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And then I can definitelyget back to work.
There's nothing stopping mefrom getting back to work.
But I think the workaholicpart is stepping away.
I get into things and thenI don't want to leave.
So remembering, Oh,there's a rhythm of,
I can rest in between.
I don't have to.
It doesn't haveto be so intense.
So this idea like reframinghas helped me recently to.
(08:28):
take it easy.
I read this book, How tokeep house while Drowning.
Great book.
And what was fascinating forme, here I am thinking, Oh,
I'm a "recovering workaholic."No, I'm very much still
a workaholic and that'ssuffering and anxiety that
she talks about housework.
I may not have it abouthousework, but I definitely
have it about my work.
(08:50):
So that was very interestingfor me and I think she
brings up this whole idea offinding your rhythm and that
is such a personal thing.
I know you try to play everyday or do something creative.
I love the rebounderbecause there's such an
important thing about jumping.
I've been adding jump ropingto my morning routine and it
doesn't matter the weatheryou can always hop, since
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I'm starting from zerowith the jump roping
first, I just hadto practice jumping,
I was just like, Oh my God, butjust the shake is so important.
But with the rebounder,it doesn't matter what the
weather is like outside,crank some music and
just bounce and have fun.
I think it's fantastic.
So I love that
Brooke (09:30):
Yeah.
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Macarena (09:46):
One of the things I've been remembering is
it's not all or nothing,,transitioning, from
And I'm committed tobeing more satisfied in
the moment with my life.
And one of the things isbeing able to transition
more gracefully.
So before as if I wantedto go on a walk, there
was all this prep.
Now I've been like Ican go for a five to 10
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minute walk at any time.
So I've been a lot morelike free flow about it.
So it doesn't have to be such abig commitment to do everything.
Like I'm going togo walk for an hour.
No
Brooke (10:18):
it's interesting that what just actually comes to
mind is, especially as beinga woman with menstrual cycles,
actually we can find rhythmwithin the month, right?
So the men, based on their24 hour body chemistry cycle,
the women is more in the 28.
Obviously we havedifferent gender.
Macarena (10:38):
Predominantly masculine or feminine people.
Cause we're everything, right?
Brooke (10:42):
Yes.
So, Finding the rhythmwithin your own cycle,
I think is important.
And so we might findthat this one particular
week, we have more energythat we want to be out.
We want to be social.
We want to be engagingwith our friends.
Whereas two weekslater, we might find that
we are more internal.
We want to do moremeditation, more yoga,
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more art, more creativity.
And I think that findingyour own rhythm can be
really interesting and justtaking oneself deeper into
your own self awareness.
And I've had fun playingwith that of just really
listening and listeningto what my body needs.
And maybe I need to go do thisreally intense sweaty thing.
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And then again, the nextweek, maybe I'm doing
more rest and relaxation.
So I think that's a cool thingto start to pay attention to.
And I also likethe nap ministry.
They're out of Atlantaand she's so awesome.
She's all about normalizingrest as productivity.
And that's something that Idid a Yoga Nidra training a
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few, several years ago now,and I have found that when I
can still my mind, when I cango within that, I actually
am more productive in allthe tasks of the actual job.
So cause we have home tasksand then we have job tasks.
And so to get it all done,especially as a householder,
(12:07):
the tasks are never ending,especially the multiple children
and you're working as well.
It is that important thing.
And again, I think that's theshift and maybe that's coming
as we start to embrace thedivine feminine a little bit
more in the shift of ages.
It's kind of exciting times.
Macarena (12:22):
It is..
And I think we've spoken aboutFast Like a Girl, of that book.
And she talks about aligningfasting to your menstrual cycle,
but what's cool about that,and if you don't have a period
anymore than the moon cycle,starting with the new moon.
But what I love about it isShe describes it as, the
power phase at the beginning,then during ovulation it's
manifestation and it's ashort power phase again,
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and then nurturing.
And that's a veryinteresting flow to maintain.
And then we can apply it toother stuff, which is great.
And then you also remindedme what you were talking of
One of my favorite books,when I realized I had a
problem, it's called thePower of Full Engagement.
How can I be more productive?
How can I do more,more, more, more, more.
(13:09):
more,And then this book was like.
in order for you to do more,you actually have to rest
Like your productivityis based on your recovery.
And in this book, theydo a fascinating example.
I think they studiedAndre Agassi at the time.
And they're like,how is he so good?
And they found out that whenhe had 30 seconds in between
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sets or whatever to rest,he went so deep.
He was able to really go deepin his relaxation and then his
output was amazing afterwards.
So it blew my mind.
It was like a talk abouta mindset game changer
for me because I was like, what?
I kept like, go, go, go, go.
go.
And I couldn't stop.
(13:50):
In fact, I remember.
like the pomodoro thing, it wasokay, this is going to tell me
when to rest every 25 minutes.
And I was like, off, off, off.
And then I was like, okay,let me set it to 90 minutes
off, off.
off.
so for me, it wasreally important.
And it's been interestingbecause there's been times in
my life where I feel like Ihave to justify the rest or
(14:12):
the vacation, which is insane.
So I'm.
all about now Workingsmart and enjoying as
much fun and leisure time!I've been doing puzzles and
I feel so time rich whenI'm playing, doing a puzzle.
It's really funny.
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And I'm the only one in myhousehold, like I have my
siblings who don't live with me,they're into it, but my husband
is not, which is really funny.
So he's like another puzzle.
And I have to tell himlike, you don't understand
what this provides for me.
like, it's makingme enjoy the moment
Brooke (14:50):
Time is a variable, right?
It can expand andit can contract.
And So it feels to meYou're shape shifting and you're
freezing time in the puzzle.
I love that.
Macarena (15:00):
yeah.
So it's like I step into, okay,I'm just gonna enjoy this
puzzle for a little while,And of course, during the
break, all I wanted todo was work on the puzzle,
But then I found that likethe power of full engagements
as when I would get stuck,I really just helped to
go do something else.
And then when I came back,oh, this goes here,
that goes there.
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So anyway, it was really fun.
The power and fun of puzzles.
Brooke (15:28):
Love it.
And just different and newpathways in the mind, right?
In the brain
Macarena (15:31):
Yeah, it's such a simple thing,
but you're present and you'regiving it your full attention.
So I think resting fromconstantly thinking about my
to do list is really powerful.
Brooke (15:43):
Well, a rested mind is a creative mind, right?
And so we are going to needthat moving forward as we
need creative solutions.
What used to work isn't going toalways work in the new energies.
Macarena (15:57):
And that's why we love meditation so much I love
teaching this because it'snot about stopping the mind.
But it's giving the mind abreak from constant, we're going
here, we're focusing this, we'rethinking about that, you know,
constant, constant, constant.
It's like, ah, letit just free flow.
(16:17):
I love that.
And I know you also meditate andteach meditation and all that.
So which is yourfavorite right now?
Is it yoga nidra?
Which of those techniques
Brooke (16:28):
I just love it all.
And for you, you'vebeen doing puzzles.
For me I have found that Iactually really love reading,
but I've always reserved readingfor flights and vacations.
And I've actually been allowingmyself to pause and take 10
or 15 minutes just to read.
And I actually lay on the couchand read and it feels epic.
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It feels luxurious.
I find that myeyes are tired at night and so
I don't necessarily want to reador I would fall asleep reading.
So I'm loving readingas meditation.
I love art as meditation,always movement.
And then personally over thepast maybe seven years, I've
developed a Kundalini practice.
I've found that it's one ofthe quickest ways to raise
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the Shakti energy, thatcreative life force energy.
And so I just loveit, but I love it all.
I think it's all so wonderful.
Macarena (17:26):
We're so lucky.
We have so many tools.
So can you describeyour kundalini practice?
Brooke (17:31):
Well, I'm not a Kundalini practitioner.
I mean, I am a practitioner.
I'm not a Kundalini teacher.
But I do the chantingto open and focusing on
bringing the gaze inward,and then we do a basic
warmup series and then theydo different Kriyas, so
for me, I have a basic.
Just quick way to, or maybeI don't want to say quick.
(17:55):
I want to say efficient wayto raise that life force
energy that I feel alive.
I feel connected, I feelaligned and prepared for my day.
Macarena (18:06):
Nice.
That's lovely.
Ah, that feels so nice.
Fantastic.
I really appreciate.
Brooke (18:12):
Yeah.
I was just thinking about onemore thing about how you also
said to me not too long ago thatYou don't need to follow anybody
else's success blueprint.
And I feel like that withRest with meditation,
with your day design is dowhat feels good for you,
because everyone that'sgoing to be really different
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and maybe the meditationis doing the dishes with no
children around and maybethe meditation is cooking the
meal or prepping the meal.
Maybe the meditation isactually lying down and
doing your legs up the wall.
That's actually one ofmy favorite things to do.
I do that at night.
More in the fall and inthe winter because they
(18:53):
are the yin seasons.
They're more quiet,more internal.
But I just think it'sa permission to do what
brings you joy and whatsparks your passion.
Macarena (19:03):
Thank you for reminding me of that.
Absolutely.
And I think what's cool,especially for people that are
super tapped in and intuitive.
like you, like me, we forgetbecause I think sometimes I lean
in too much into that masculineenergy of the to do list and the
this this and this, and this.
And yes, that's great,but it's not the full picture,
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so I think a little bit ofthat and more of this feminine,
expansive idea of flowand just being present
and feel what's going on.
Seems to be working, for meand I see that working for you.
And I think, as business women,as entrepreneurs, we always
hear, especially malecoaches or whatever.
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Oh, you need to do da,da, da, da, da, da.
and it's like, yeah,okay, that's cool.
Maybe that worksfor a lot of people.
That doesn't meanit works for us.
And that's why I love thingslike the self knowledge
of either understandingyour strengths with the
Strengths Test or theEnneagram, that sort of thing.
Because I've beenapplying through the lens,
what's cool about the enneagram,it's nine personality types,
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and then basically, we tendto think that everyone's
seeing the world like we are,but there's at least
eight other ones.
with that in mind, itreally helps to be okay,
what's my take on this?
Let me hear the advice,but how do I make this my own?
And what rhythm and flowworks for me, if any?
So yes.
Brooke (20:28):
and back to the day design that, maybe you're
doing a little bit of writingthat's moving you forward
in that little pocket thatyou can do while having your
family time and your worktime and your exercise time.
So I don't know.
I'm a big fan of timers.
And just 10 minutes, to carveit out, to create the flow.
Macarena (20:49):
Yeah.
I Have found like,there's a technique
called writing sprints,but it's just a focus sprint
where you can set 25 minutes or20 minutes and just I'm going
to do this because most peoplefind let's say whatever it is,
let's say somethingI don't like to do accounting.
If I don't set acontainer for it.
It can take all dayinstead of saying,
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let's see if I can getthis done within 20 minutes
And then half the timeI do, which is great.
and also that makes itless dreadful for me.
Cause I used tothink oh my God,
it's going to take me days toprepare my taxes or whatever.
And then it wasn't a big deal.
It was like an hour or somethingbecause I've put things in place
to make it easier for myself,but getting me to sit down and
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do that was like not happening.
I so appreciate yourtime and your smile.
You're one of my dearfriends, and love and
appreciate you so very much.
And, how can people find you?
Brooke (21:50):
Well, simply looking at either Brooke Butler
healing or bodytalktahoe.com.
You can reach out in that way.
I am starting to do somegroup things again, which
has been really fun.
So yeah, please reach outand just thank you for your
time and I love your spark.
You always give me a sparkand you are a wonder and bring
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So thank you for havingme and thank you for your
continuous inspiration.
Macarena (22:23):
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Are you overwhelmed?
Do you need a little kindnessand permission to play
to help you be present?
Then you're going tolove today's episode
with Brooke Butler.
She's a medical intuitive.
A great friend of minewho I adore deeply.
She lives in Lake Tahoe andshe has really fun group
programs out there andshe does virtual sessions.
(00:22):
She's really wise,kind, and generous,
and We're going to have a funconversation where we talk about
play and rhythm andallowing, giving ourselves
permission to be in the flow.
Please enjoy.
Intro (00:38):
Welcome to Magical Mindset with Macarena Luz
Bianchi, where we explore themagic of mindset, gratitude,
and purposeful living.
I'm your host Macarena, andI'm thrilled to have you
join me on this journey ofwonder, wellness, and wisdom.
You can find the episodeshow notes, your free Magical
(01:00):
Mindset Blueprint, andmore at xpres.me/podcast,
and here's the show.
Macarena (01:09):
Thank you, Brooke Butler, Medical Intuitive
for joining me today.
And can you please, sharewith us what you do?
Brooke (01:18):
Yes.
Thanks for having me.
So I work with the body'sinnate intelligence to help
people figure out what's theroot cause of their diseases
and their afflictions.
And sometimes we'll moveinto more spiritual growth.
But most of the time peopleare coming to me because they
want to find more balancein their daily life or in
(01:40):
their body or in their mind.
Macarena (01:43):
I feel very fortunate because we've worked
together for a very long time.
So I love Brooke's sessions.
I love how she works.
She's so kind andgiving and loving.
She holds such abeautiful, loving space.
And I really think you'reincredible at what you do
and you can move energylike nobody's business.
(02:03):
I appreciate that about youand I welcome you again.
This is a free flow conversationbecause I know we've talked
about the importance of play.
Playing is really important.
We talk about that a lot.
That's a big part ofmy whole lighthearted
empowerment journey.
I've noticed that with thewonder wellness and wisdom,
which is lighthearted living,that most people suffer
(02:26):
because they're ignoringa part of themselves.
And maybe it's becauseI'm a recovery workaholic,
I work with a lot ofintense people like myself.
And I find that it's thewonder piece that's missing.
That's one of thethings I see a lot.
And of course, people arecoming to you also for a lot
of health stuff, whereas I'mmore focused on the mindset.
(02:47):
you're one of the people,when I think of having
fun and living fully, Ilove how you embrace play.
I know you live in LakeTahoe and every moment
you can, you're outsidedoing something fun.
So can you tell us aboutyour commitment to enjoying
yourself and expressing yourselfphysically and with fun?
Brooke (03:07):
I can, but first I want to take a moment to honor you
because I feel like you havetaught me so much around how
to bring fun into work . AndI think that is the goal is
to make our work our play.
Even though people's issuescan feel heavy sometimes, with
cancer diagnoses and, various,rheumatoid arthritis, autoimmune
(03:31):
conditions, whatever it maybe, reproductive health, there
is a way to weave the fun.
And I think that's one ofthe things that I've gleaned
in our sessions together.
So thank you.
And I think , it is a balance.
I'm actually from Floridaand as we know in Florida,
it can be very hot.
So we're limited tocertain times of the
year to get out and play.
(03:52):
I feel very fortunate to livein Lake Tahoe because we do
have the seasons and In thewinter we have skiing and
snowboarding, and it's wonderfulto get out in the snow.
But I just find that for me it'sa balance point to be in nature,
to allow myself to move mybody and to focus on my breath,
(04:14):
and my main sport in life.
The summer is mountainbiking and I actually
really love to do that.
It's more like a meditationfor me at this point.
It's just another way toalign the body, the mind
and the spirit for me.
And of course there's many waysthat people can do that through
art or meditation and yoga orany of the movement practices
(04:36):
where we bring the awarenessto the breath and then link it
up with the rhythm and it'sall about synchronizing, right?
And I think One of the bigthings about being close
to the Earth is the abilityfor the Earth to carry us.
And if we offer that extra layerof "what do I do with this?"
(04:56):
That we can use our breathto release, to then become
more grounded, to thenhave the clarity, to then
see where to focus ourintentions and our energies.
I hope that answersyour question.
Macarena (05:08):
Right.
Well, I think that'sthe common thread.
Like in our sessions,it's coming up.
You have permission to havefun, like how much more powerful
it is to prioritize fun.
And that's part of the thingsthat come up, especially someone
like me, where I can't help.
People say, "Oh, well, ifyou slow down, you're not
going to do anything."And I always, I
challenge you, try it.
(05:29):
See how long you can gowithout doing anything.
It's really difficult.
You might be exhausted.
So you might need aday or two to rest, but
eventually, especially, we'realso such creative people.
You're also an artist thatit's hard to sit
still for too long.
It's actually like a sacredpractice to try to do that.
I love what you said about thepermission is so important.
(05:52):
And of course some people havedifficult situations or they're
overwhelmed with their families.
I've been there before.
So What advice do you have forpeople that are overwhelmed?
I think they need theplay the most actually.
But what would yousay to somebody who
came to you like that?
Brooke (06:08):
I actually think about myself because I often get
overwhelmed, but I know ifI take 15 minutes to get out
the door to be in nature orto just move my body, that
it's going to shift my energy.
And I like your rememberingof permission is giving
yourself permission tofind balance, right?
(06:29):
And obviously there'svarious tools that we can
work with within our owninnate being to find the
balance for the overwhelm.
I was reading yesterdaysomething about eat the frog
first and it's like doing thehardest thing in your day.
So I would say, do thehardest thing and then reward
yourself with the 15 minutewalk or 20 minute walk.
(06:50):
I've been into rebounding,which is super fun.
And there's a lot ofstudy around using
the mini trampolines.
So it's, many ways to movethe body and maybe it's
just getting out your artsupplies and having some fun
for 10 minutes in between.
Macarena (07:06):
just even a little walk is easier.
And my pets appreciate
Brooke (07:11):
I'm sure they do.
And day design.
Is scheduling it into theday that you know, that I
only have one hour for lunch.
So I'm going to spend 35 minutesactually eating and then the
extra time to move the body.
And to move thelymphatic system.
I think that's why therebounding is for the lymphatic
system being our secondcirculatory system, right?
(07:32):
Toxic waste system, but thatyou can do it 10 minutes
and it's equivalent of, Idon't even know, an hour
of exercise or something.
And it is fun.
So yeah, it's important.
Macarena (07:43):
Fantastic.
This whole idea ofrhythms versus habits.
Habits and routines canseem serious and can
feel pretty serious.
But I like this ideaof healthy rhythms.
For me, when I think ofwhat's a healthy rhythm,
I think of it's not aboutjust focus, focus, focus.
It's like being ableto come in and out.
Like I said, it's okay tobe relaxed and go for a walk.
(08:06):
And then I can definitelyget back to work.
There's nothing stopping mefrom getting back to work.
But I think the workaholicpart is stepping away.
I get into things and thenI don't want to leave.
So remembering, Oh,there's a rhythm of,
I can rest in between.
I don't have to.
It doesn't haveto be so intense.
So this idea like reframinghas helped me recently to.
(08:28):
take it easy.
I read this book, How tokeep house while Drowning.
Great book.
And what was fascinating forme, here I am thinking, Oh,
I'm a "recovering workaholic."No, I'm very much still
a workaholic and that'ssuffering and anxiety that
she talks about housework.
I may not have it abouthousework, but I definitely
have it about my work.
(08:50):
So that was very interestingfor me and I think she
brings up this whole idea offinding your rhythm and that
is such a personal thing.
I know you try to play everyday or do something creative.
I love the rebounderbecause there's such an
important thing about jumping.
I've been adding jump ropingto my morning routine and it
doesn't matter the weatheryou can always hop, since
(09:11):
I'm starting from zerowith the jump roping
first, I just hadto practice jumping,
I was just like, Oh my God, butjust the shake is so important.
But with the rebounder,it doesn't matter what the
weather is like outside,crank some music and
just bounce and have fun.
I think it's fantastic.
So I love that
Brooke (09:30):
Yeah.
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Macarena (09:46):
One of the things I've been remembering is
it's not all or nothing,,transitioning, from
And I'm committed tobeing more satisfied in
the moment with my life.
And one of the things isbeing able to transition
more gracefully.
So before as if I wantedto go on a walk, there
was all this prep.
Now I've been like Ican go for a five to 10
(10:08):
minute walk at any time.
So I've been a lot morelike free flow about it.
So it doesn't have to be such abig commitment to do everything.
Like I'm going togo walk for an hour.
No
Brooke (10:18):
it's interesting that what just actually comes to
mind is, especially as beinga woman with menstrual cycles,
actually we can find rhythmwithin the month, right?
So the men, based on their24 hour body chemistry cycle,
the women is more in the 28.
Obviously we havedifferent gender.
Macarena (10:38):
Predominantly masculine or feminine people.
Cause we're everything, right?
Brooke (10:42):
Yes.
So, Finding the rhythmwithin your own cycle,
I think is important.
And so we might findthat this one particular
week, we have more energythat we want to be out.
We want to be social.
We want to be engagingwith our friends.
Whereas two weekslater, we might find that
we are more internal.
We want to do moremeditation, more yoga,
(11:03):
more art, more creativity.
And I think that findingyour own rhythm can be
really interesting and justtaking oneself deeper into
your own self awareness.
And I've had fun playingwith that of just really
listening and listeningto what my body needs.
And maybe I need to go do thisreally intense sweaty thing.
(11:25):
And then again, the nextweek, maybe I'm doing
more rest and relaxation.
So I think that's a cool thingto start to pay attention to.
And I also likethe nap ministry.
They're out of Atlantaand she's so awesome.
She's all about normalizingrest as productivity.
And that's something that Idid a Yoga Nidra training a
(11:46):
few, several years ago now,and I have found that when I
can still my mind, when I cango within that, I actually
am more productive in allthe tasks of the actual job.
So cause we have home tasksand then we have job tasks.
And so to get it all done,especially as a householder,
(12:07):
the tasks are never ending,especially the multiple children
and you're working as well.
It is that important thing.
And again, I think that's theshift and maybe that's coming
as we start to embrace thedivine feminine a little bit
more in the shift of ages.
It's kind of exciting times.
Macarena (12:22):
It is..
And I think we've spoken aboutFast Like a Girl, of that book.
And she talks about aligningfasting to your menstrual cycle,
but what's cool about that,and if you don't have a period
anymore than the moon cycle,starting with the new moon.
But what I love about it isShe describes it as, the
power phase at the beginning,then during ovulation it's
manifestation and it's ashort power phase again,
(12:47):
and then nurturing.
And that's a veryinteresting flow to maintain.
And then we can apply it toother stuff, which is great.
And then you also remindedme what you were talking of
One of my favorite books,when I realized I had a
problem, it's called thePower of Full Engagement.
How can I be more productive?
How can I do more,more, more, more, more.
(13:09):
more,And then this book was like.
in order for you to do more,you actually have to rest
Like your productivityis based on your recovery.
And in this book, theydo a fascinating example.
I think they studiedAndre Agassi at the time.
And they're like,how is he so good?
And they found out that whenhe had 30 seconds in between
(13:29):
sets or whatever to rest,he went so deep.
He was able to really go deepin his relaxation and then his
output was amazing afterwards.
So it blew my mind.
It was like a talk abouta mindset game changer
for me because I was like, what?
I kept like, go, go, go, go.
go.
And I couldn't stop.
(13:50):
In fact, I remember.
like the pomodoro thing, it wasokay, this is going to tell me
when to rest every 25 minutes.
And I was like, off, off, off.
And then I was like, okay,let me set it to 90 minutes
off, off.
off.
so for me, it wasreally important.
And it's been interestingbecause there's been times in
my life where I feel like Ihave to justify the rest or
(14:12):
the vacation, which is insane.
So I'm.
all about now Workingsmart and enjoying as
much fun and leisure time!I've been doing puzzles and
I feel so time rich whenI'm playing, doing a puzzle.
It's really funny.
(14:33):
And I'm the only one in myhousehold, like I have my
siblings who don't live with me,they're into it, but my husband
is not, which is really funny.
So he's like another puzzle.
And I have to tell himlike, you don't understand
what this provides for me.
like, it's makingme enjoy the moment
Brooke (14:50):
Time is a variable, right?
It can expand andit can contract.
And So it feels to meYou're shape shifting and you're
freezing time in the puzzle.
I love that.
Macarena (15:00):
yeah.
So it's like I step into, okay,I'm just gonna enjoy this
puzzle for a little while,And of course, during the
break, all I wanted todo was work on the puzzle,
But then I found that likethe power of full engagements
as when I would get stuck,I really just helped to
go do something else.
And then when I came back,oh, this goes here,
that goes there.
(15:22):
So anyway, it was really fun.
The power and fun of puzzles.
Brooke (15:28):
Love it.
And just different and newpathways in the mind, right?
In the brain
Macarena (15:31):
Yeah, it's such a simple thing,
but you're present and you'regiving it your full attention.
So I think resting fromconstantly thinking about my
to do list is really powerful.
Brooke (15:43):
Well, a rested mind is a creative mind, right?
And so we are going to needthat moving forward as we
need creative solutions.
What used to work isn't going toalways work in the new energies.
Macarena (15:57):
And that's why we love meditation so much I love
teaching this because it'snot about stopping the mind.
But it's giving the mind abreak from constant, we're going
here, we're focusing this, we'rethinking about that, you know,
constant, constant, constant.
It's like, ah, letit just free flow.
(16:17):
I love that.
And I know you also meditate andteach meditation and all that.
So which is yourfavorite right now?
Is it yoga nidra?
Which of those techniques
Brooke (16:28):
I just love it all.
And for you, you'vebeen doing puzzles.
For me I have found that Iactually really love reading,
but I've always reserved readingfor flights and vacations.
And I've actually been allowingmyself to pause and take 10
or 15 minutes just to read.
And I actually lay on the couchand read and it feels epic.
(16:53):
It feels luxurious.
I find that myeyes are tired at night and so
I don't necessarily want to reador I would fall asleep reading.
So I'm loving readingas meditation.
I love art as meditation,always movement.
And then personally over thepast maybe seven years, I've
developed a Kundalini practice.
I've found that it's one ofthe quickest ways to raise
(17:15):
the Shakti energy, thatcreative life force energy.
And so I just loveit, but I love it all.
I think it's all so wonderful.
Macarena (17:26):
We're so lucky.
We have so many tools.
So can you describeyour kundalini practice?
Brooke (17:31):
Well, I'm not a Kundalini practitioner.
I mean, I am a practitioner.
I'm not a Kundalini teacher.
But I do the chantingto open and focusing on
bringing the gaze inward,and then we do a basic
warmup series and then theydo different Kriyas, so
for me, I have a basic.
Just quick way to, or maybeI don't want to say quick.
(17:55):
I want to say efficient wayto raise that life force
energy that I feel alive.
I feel connected, I feelaligned and prepared for my day.
Macarena (18:06):
Nice.
That's lovely.
Ah, that feels so nice.
Fantastic.
I really appreciate.
Brooke (18:12):
Yeah.
I was just thinking about onemore thing about how you also
said to me not too long ago thatYou don't need to follow anybody
else's success blueprint.
And I feel like that withRest with meditation,
with your day design is dowhat feels good for you,
because everyone that'sgoing to be really different
(18:32):
and maybe the meditationis doing the dishes with no
children around and maybethe meditation is cooking the
meal or prepping the meal.
Maybe the meditation isactually lying down and
doing your legs up the wall.
That's actually one ofmy favorite things to do.
I do that at night.
More in the fall and inthe winter because they
(18:53):
are the yin seasons.
They're more quiet,more internal.
But I just think it'sa permission to do what
brings you joy and whatsparks your passion.
Macarena (19:03):
Thank you for reminding me of that.
Absolutely.
And I think what's cool,especially for people that are
super tapped in and intuitive.
like you, like me, we forgetbecause I think sometimes I lean
in too much into that masculineenergy of the to do list and the
this this and this, and this.
And yes, that's great,but it's not the full picture,
(19:25):
so I think a little bit ofthat and more of this feminine,
expansive idea of flowand just being present
and feel what's going on.
Seems to be working, for meand I see that working for you.
And I think, as business women,as entrepreneurs, we always
hear, especially malecoaches or whatever.
(19:45):
Oh, you need to do da,da, da, da, da, da.
and it's like, yeah,okay, that's cool.
Maybe that worksfor a lot of people.
That doesn't meanit works for us.
And that's why I love thingslike the self knowledge
of either understandingyour strengths with the
Strengths Test or theEnneagram, that sort of thing.
Because I've beenapplying through the lens,
what's cool about the enneagram,it's nine personality types,
(20:06):
and then basically, we tendto think that everyone's
seeing the world like we are,but there's at least
eight other ones.
with that in mind, itreally helps to be okay,
what's my take on this?
Let me hear the advice,but how do I make this my own?
And what rhythm and flowworks for me, if any?
So yes.
Brooke (20:28):
and back to the day design that, maybe you're
doing a little bit of writingthat's moving you forward
in that little pocket thatyou can do while having your
family time and your worktime and your exercise time.
So I don't know.
I'm a big fan of timers.
And just 10 minutes, to carveit out, to create the flow.
Macarena (20:49):
Yeah.
I Have found like,there's a technique
called writing sprints,but it's just a focus sprint
where you can set 25 minutes or20 minutes and just I'm going
to do this because most peoplefind let's say whatever it is,
let's say somethingI don't like to do accounting.
If I don't set acontainer for it.
It can take all dayinstead of saying,
(21:11):
let's see if I can getthis done within 20 minutes
And then half the timeI do, which is great.
and also that makes itless dreadful for me.
Cause I used tothink oh my God,
it's going to take me days toprepare my taxes or whatever.
And then it wasn't a big deal.
It was like an hour or somethingbecause I've put things in place
to make it easier for myself,but getting me to sit down and
(21:33):
do that was like not happening.
I so appreciate yourtime and your smile.
You're one of my dearfriends, and love and
appreciate you so very much.
And, how can people find you?
Brooke (21:50):
Well, simply looking at either Brooke Butler
healing or bodytalktahoe.com.
You can reach out in that way.
I am starting to do somegroup things again, which
has been really fun.
So yeah, please reach outand just thank you for your
time and I love your spark.
You always give me a sparkand you are a wonder and bring
(22:12):
us all wellness and wisdom.
So thank you for havingme and thank you for your
continuous inspiration.
Macarena (22:23):
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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